psyker-class

[bleak tulip]

you dont need 80 but there is no definitive dump stat on trauma really

[plucky flax]

[sturdy dagger]

im just like shocked he said it so confidently man could so easily bait less informed people into horrible staff builds

misinformation

[frail sand]

blessings is actually the dump stat

[broken pollen]

Is trauma viable on auric damnation

[rigid rune]

very

[broken pollen]

I can’t imagine it’ll get nerfed

[plucky flax]

No it's horrible need buff.

[frail sand]

ideal setup is run and gun

[bleak tulip]

yeah its worst staff

[bright ether]

i might just swap to trauma while i wait for my shocky boy to rebound

[slow raven]

do you even hit any breakpoints going from 60 to 80 damage on trauma staff

[bleak tulip]

pls buff fatshark

[broken pollen]

The duality of man

[plucky flax]

Shotgunner 1 shot with high peril and warp charges.

[frail sand]

buff blaze trauma pls

need more fire

[azure bridge]

tyvm

[plucky flax]

I'm trying my best to get trauma buff.

[slow raven]

if it's only that then ehh

quell speed and warp res is pretty noticeable when it's low

[broken pollen]

Why, it’ll only get nerfed back down

The writing’s on the wall, we’re gonna all be gunpsyker mains soon

[frail sand]

just make fatshark forgor they buffed it

[plucky flax]

Nah because trauma is "hard" to play so it has never been nerfed.

[near wyvern]

it already got one in patch #13 even tho it was not needed, keep quiet!

[bright ether]

many such cases

[spiral storm]

Trauma is hard?

[orchid shadow]

I've been a Surge 90% of my games. Ain't about to change that now. I'm basically back to pre-patch 13 CC bot.

[plucky flax]

People can't aim it for some reason.

[bleak tulip]

I think they should buff void by about 10% or so its so weak

[near wyvern]

in that case I recommend you to switch over to smite

[broken pollen]

You don’t need a staff for cc just git gud with melee

[bleak tulip]

[near wyvern]

if you are not going to build surge for damage you might as well not use it

[broken pollen]

That’s my whole point regarding staves

[uneven compass]

Surge feels ROUGH in Auric Damnation if you're expecting damage

[broken pollen]

If eventually all they’ll be used for is CC then we’ll all be gunpsyker mains

[plucky flax]

Build at the start and gameplay inspiration if you want to see how one might use it.
https://youtu.be/S4ba8PeeJL8

[slow raven]

surge is bugged so just wait until it's fixed before using it imo

right now it might as well be disabled so you cant equip it

[azure bridge]

ty i've already watched it, I want to use the staff, but still want smite and bubble so I need to rework it

[bleak tulip]

I mean it helps a lot, you cant melee your way out of 5 crushers walking through the door that easily

[static needle]

@sturdy dagger Imo the charge rate for voidstrike with surge + nexus is too slow to be consistently very good. Its too much of a gamle, whereas using nexus + flurry makes the damage and pressure more consistent and faster

thoughts?

[plucky flax]

Core talents are pc, warp charges, creeping flames. I also recommend wildfire. I think you'd lose out on a lot of damage without shriek.

Bb to smite is okay but why not just blast them.

[slow raven]

go with surge/flurry since true aim gives you an effective 20%-100% crit rate depending on density

[bleak tulip]

I mean you can probably do worse but more crit means more damage offsetting the need to charge has much and making up for the cleave limit somewhat

[azure bridge]

I agree, shreik is a very good damage but I have come to love the bubble shield as a mission finisher

[static needle]

what?

[slow raven]

no point in crits on voidstrike if you're not using surge

[azure bridge]

as in its the most consistent tool for making sure a mission completes

[slow raven]

the whole reason we build crit on void is to get literal double damage from surge procs

[plucky flax]

Tru. It'll be harder to take out shooters behind cover but bubble will nullified them. Try it and see how it goes for ya

[slow raven]

voidstrike can hit the weakspot of multiple enemies at once

if you shoot it into a horde, you will proc true aim with every shot

[static needle]

huh

did not consider this

will try it out 🙂

[slow raven]

so surge/flurry is viable and stronger than surge/nexus in some situations. surge/nexus is stronger for single target

[bleak tulip]

you telling me you werent using true aim?

[sturdy dagger]

oh for sure 100% flurry is great i was just refering to surge blessing, if ur running surge and not nexus i kill you

[bleak tulip]

well

you should be using true aim with void

thats like

[static needle]

bt wtf

[bleak tulip]

the ONE thing you HAVE to do

[static needle]

back me up here, Enjoyer

[plucky flax]

People play how they want.

[sturdy dagger]

no but

but i kill you

like this see

[frail sand]

[sturdy dagger]

i should try the dimma damm true aim but GOD i have a vendetta for kinetic

[bleak tulip]

?

[orchid shadow]

Also no point in me using other weapons if don't find them fun. =/ With Surge it's at least fun for me and I have the experience to work around it's shortcomings until a fix comes in... a month later. maybe.

[frail sand]

all this warp flurry/nexus talk, when is warp furry going to be added

[sturdy dagger]

siblings

kill this user

https://tenor.com/view/knife-gif-19603638

even the local zealot is mad

[eager mantle]

Fatshark add in beastmen operative and beastmen heretics

[spiral storm]

So like

felinids

[frail sand]

i mean the traitor leader Wolfer has a suspicious name

[eager mantle]

Wolfer howls at his meetings

[spiral storm]

wolfer is the kind of guy to say "Your false emperor has betrayed you"

and not even bat an eye when his men explode into mutant mosntrosities

[glossy ember]

ogryn with knife

[desert mirage]

is this any good?

[spiral storm]

Depends

[static needle]

explain further to Helly why running flurry + surge is good compared to surge + nexus

[glossy ember]

"look i know the guy next to me has 60% of his body weight as pus, maggots, has his guts falling out of his belly, but trust me bro the emperor is worse."

[sturdy dagger]

but is he happy?

[glossy ember]

yeah i guess

[bleak tulip]

I mean you can do worse but youre gonna do less damage

[spiral storm]

If the next upgrade gives you a 20 or 25% damage boost against flak, maniac or unyielding

great

if it doesn't

rip

[static needle]

@sturdy dagger , debate time

[sturdy dagger]

no

thas cringe

[static needle]

i wanna be convinced haha

[sturdy dagger]

decide if ur willing 2 give up the skill points for gimick strike or standard strike

[eager mantle]

Lvl 4 10% reload speed is so weird to me when lvl 4 damage bonuses can go to 25%

[sturdy dagger]

keep in mind u can simply change warp flurry and nexus around indefinitely

until u decide what u like

[spiral storm]

Reload speed is pretty useless

Only 1 gun in the game needs it I would say

and even then you can just get reload speed from perks

[static needle]

tru

[azure bridge]

does that blazing trauma staff do good boss damage?

[glossy ember]

[spiral storm]

Doubt it

[sturdy dagger]

@plucky flax ?

im gonna assume no

[bleak tulip]

not really but its better than just hitting it with void probably

[plucky flax]

No. Only okay against bonbon.

[bleak tulip]

because SB

[desert mirage]

theres also this too

[plucky flax]

I have bb so that's my pitiful boss damage.

[desert mirage]

should I grab the blue

[bleak tulip]

bad first hit which is the whole point of deimos

[azure bridge]

i keep getting mixed signals for void staff, some say its good boss damage other say its aweful

[bleak tulip]

pass

[plucky flax]

Actually latest patch nerf explosive damage against bonbon too.

[spiral storm]

Uncanny strike seems kinda useless

[azure bridge]

so i was hoping truama would be decent

[bleak tulip]

its not good boss damage

[spiral storm]

Ideally you wouldn't hit them 5 times in the head before you kill them

You would just activate your special and hit once

[bleak tulip]

and it still wouldnt be if there werent builds that can delete bosses in seconds like there are

[azure bridge]

does psyker have a ranged weapon that does do good boss damage?

[bleak tulip]

no

well I guess guns? but I wouldnt call it good

[glossy ember]

guns?

doesn't laspistol shred or something

[azure bridge]

so what im getting from this is its a lost cause

[bleak tulip]

like you can crit string the shit out of columnus 5 and other IAGs

thatll be pretty good I guess

[spiral storm]

in terms of STAFFS

Basically only the purg staff

[sturdy dagger]

holy shit guys new psyker staff

[bleak tulip]

purg is still pretty bad at bosses

[spiral storm]

yeah

[sturdy dagger]

its passable

[azure bridge]

would a revolver work?

i rather like that gun

[sturdy dagger]

i think u can do the uncanny trick on bosses aswell though

[spiral storm]

For boss damage

[bleak tulip]

purg can kill it over a long ass time for free tho because you just gotta keep the stacks up

[spiral storm]

eeeh

on the slug maybe

[bleak tulip]

so on lower difficulties you can do worse than purg prob

[spiral storm]

but overall if you want boss damage you just gotta go with IAGs

[bleak tulip]

still wouldnt do it tho

[azure bridge]

IAG?

[spiral storm]

infantry auto guns

[umbral helm]

guns do enough that if everyone else is carrying their weight in the encounter it should be fine, but most people will probably have better game-feel simply playing support in a boss fight, clearing all the trash, and if you have dome laying it down for defense and toughness regen. but, up to you how you wanna do it

[azure bridge]

ahh gotcha

[bleak tulip]

or just use BB like a weirdo, boss damage is the one redeeming factor to having it kinda

[sturdy dagger]

i need u 2 type again

[spiral storm]

I run BB with purge

so I have at least some carapce damage

[sturdy dagger]

love it

[spiral storm]

Ain't no way I'm trusting randoms to deal with carapace

[desert mirage]

Ayyo?

[sturdy dagger]

does he know the tech though

[umbral helm]

you're welcome

[spiral storm]

Nah that one is a bust

You have 3 things that need swapping out

[sturdy dagger]

@spiral storm me when i kill all da crushers

[desert mirage]

Wtf really?

[spiral storm]

Warp nexus at level 1 isn't great

since at rank 4 it grants 20%

[desert mirage]

I mean sure but base stats

[spiral storm]

I mean yeah base stats for fantastic

[desert mirage]

then ill grab it and work on it

[bleak tulip]

wait why are you comparing two different staves

[spiral storm]

but surge is one of those weapons where the perks and blessings makes or breaks it

[desert mirage]

ok how about this

[bleak tulip]

if youre asking about the purg, its not very good because cloud radius is a core stat

[desert mirage]

didnt mean to copy the two

[spiral storm]

Won't know until you upgrade it again

[bleak tulip]

low damage, you can do better

[spiral storm]

that too

[sturdy dagger]

You can only modify 2 parts of a weapon. Everything on that needed changing

[desert mirage]

[bleak tulip]

you might legit lose breakpoints with that low damage

[spiral storm]

try to aim for at least 70+ damage

[desert mirage]

is the purgatus worth grabbing atleas

[bleak tulip]

no

low cloud

cloud is core stat

[desert mirage]

fffff

[spiral storm]

What does cloud radius do anyway

[bleak tulip]

range

thats the main reason

[desert mirage]

👀

[spiral storm]

range or width?

[bleak tulip]

both

range is more important tho

[frail sand]

so for voidstrike, do you build it like this?

[bleak tulip]

more range more targets hit, it has no cleave limit so its literally the core thing to get on purg

[umbral helm]

gotta have that long and thick fire to burn em up evenly

[spiral storm]

could probably go for assail or smite instead of bb

[desert mirage]

is that sword any good atleast

[feral seal]

I wanna like purg but damn, running into 5 crushers and some bulwarks feels bad

[spiral storm]

voidstrike is already going to deal with all the tanky enemies for you

[sturdy dagger]

honestly i just ran void with EP BB and it felt fucking great

i just had an answer for everything all the time

[bleak tulip]

get soulstealer, essence harvest is bad otherwise looks okay

[desert mirage]

oh shit, this is a way better one, only 5% off max cloud, though damage is slightly lower

[bleak tulip]

I think BB is shit but thats up to you

[spiral storm]

damage on purg is kinda whatever

[sturdy dagger]

[spiral storm]

I think the damage range is like

18-20

[bleak tulip]

it ticks very fast tho

[desert mirage]

im grabbing that one

[bleak tulip]

wouldnt really neglect it but you can run that

its probably okay

wait

I think you miss out on the highest burn

but oh well

[gaunt wagon]

whats the best staff now

[spiral storm]

The best dumpstat would be quell speed

There isn't one

[bleak tulip]

76% burn is the sweet spot but you could do worse

[gaunt wagon]

im trying out some of these staffs and they just suck now

[feral seal]

EP or warp charges for purg staff?

[spiral storm]

warp charges

[shrewd comet]

whats the goto blessings for a mk4 dueling sword?

[bleak tulip]

uncanny

and uhh, shred, rampage or the dodge one

I forgor

[frail sand]

riposte

[desert mirage]

its just they killed my last build

and idk what to go for

[shrewd comet]

uncanny for sure though?

[bleak tulip]

yes

unless youre opposed to two to three shotting crushers

[spiral storm]

What was your last build

[desert mirage]

that uhh, bugged shock one

[spiral storm]

oh

[desert mirage]

where the smite thought your staff was also smite

[spiral storm]

wait which bugged shock one

oh that one

[umbral helm]

uncanny, aka "Fuck Your Armor™️ "

[spiral storm]

Wacky that there's 2 major bugs that defined builds both related to EP and Smite

[desert mirage]

"im still fairly new"

[feral seal]

My poor staff is benched until bug fix

[spiral storm]

The palpatine infinite smite bug

[desert mirage]

so i wasnt fully specced out

[spiral storm]

and the surge smite bug

[sturdy dagger]

purge, void, trauma are all still great though

[desert mirage]

my current staff

[feral seal]

Someone sell me on purge, it always feels so poopy

[gaunt wagon]

purge aint that good anymore

[sturdy dagger]

it literally does not matter how many nemies ai director throws at u

simply burn it

[sturdy dagger]

wrong

[spiral storm]

Purge is fantastic

[gaunt wagon]

it cant kill maniacs and flak

[spiral storm]

what

[sturdy dagger]

?????????????????????????????????

[spiral storm]

the

[feral seal]

What do you do vs like 5+ crushers

[sturdy dagger]

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[spiral storm]

bro build crit

[gaunt wagon]

it takes a whole bar of charge

and more

[desert mirage]

drop me a purgatus crit build

[sturdy dagger]

what are u even saying

[desert mirage]

and ill try it out

[sturdy dagger]

my brain

[bleak tulip]

its like the easiest staff to play by far

[sturdy dagger]

BB or funny uncanny bug

[spiral storm]

Just get warp nexus 3 or 4 on it

then IDEALLY you get flurry

[bleak tulip]

you dont have to think and youre still doing shit until theres a crusher by just holding right mouse and then left clicking whenever your screen isnt on fire

[sturdy dagger]

@feral seal what if my fire just did full dmg to crushers aswell lmao kek lol ahaha

[spiral storm]

but it honestly doesn't matter if you get barage or whatever

[feral seal]

BB vs multiple crushers is so painful

[sturdy dagger]

if theres multiple do what i just linked

[feral seal]

Silly bug teehee

[sturdy dagger]

what does this even mean

[umbral helm]

y'know, the reason you have a build or a kit is because you're supposed to utilize all of it. a weapon not being able to do literally everything is fine

[heady garnet]

what exactly is "start protected game" option as opposed to just launching it?

[sturdy dagger]

are u not sat at 80% perma on ur staffs?

[gaunt wagon]

are you talking about 80% peril?

or stats

[sturdy dagger]

yes

[spiral storm]

The purge staff has this funny little thing where

you can literally still fire at 100% peril

[eager mantle]

Assail users when assail isn't doing everything for them.

[spiral storm]

as long as you don't charge it up to 100% THEN release the cloud

you can reach 100% peril and finish your stream

and you won't explode

[sturdy dagger]

what is blud smoking, this was one full charge rmb

and it has no limit

[feral seal]

True, but I find that surge/void is way way better for handling stuff like crushers/bulward and smite is usually equal or better at handling hordes, even mixed

[sturdy dagger]

this was one rager but it could have been 50

dont matter

infact the more enemies the faster they die

[desert mirage]

whats your build look like for this

i wanna try it out

[sturdy dagger]

.

[spiral storm]

basically the entire left side

[bleak tulip]

full BB talents

[sturdy dagger]

ikr

[west stream]

I have not noticed any difference with assail cause its just there so i dont eat entire laspistol ammo lol

[sturdy dagger]

kinetic flayer is kinda funny though

[spiral storm]

I love kinetic flayer

[bleak tulip]

its the worst its ever been

[spiral storm]

maybe i'm just lucky but for me it seems to prioritize elites

[bleak tulip]

actually a waste of a point 98% of the time

[sturdy dagger]

its like objectively mid but

i still like it

[fading iris]

purgatus have automatic suppress, don't need the barrage, you can get more powa

[sturdy dagger]

mauler just randomly dies at 90% hp

[sturdy dagger]

oh ik build is unfinished

i want flurry i think

[fading iris]

** MORE POWA**

[sturdy dagger]

where did he go

[bleak tulip]

it was always mid but at least you got a free warp charge when it popped some trash which it does 98% of the time, now you get literally nothing

[spiral storm]

TBH I don't use perilous combustion with purge builds

[sturdy dagger]

20 flak ragers

[spiral storm]

Seems kinda redundant to me

I'm already burning everything, 3 more stacks probably does nothing since everything is already at max stacks

[bleak tulip]

then you are playing the game wrong

[sturdy dagger]

one full rmb

idk what else 2 say

[sturdy dagger]

put the staff down

[bright ether]

i say post staff

[bleak tulip]

perilous is always worth because it boosts the gain and spreads it around to shit you aint hitting, also you arent always drilling into the same guy until you have full SB stacks

[sturdy dagger]

mine or?

[bright ether]

ty

❤️

[sturdy dagger]

it aint even optimal

[bright ether]

yeah was gonna say thats already what mine looks like lol

i should take it to the grinder some time

[sturdy dagger]

nah man

[fading iris]

"I've showed you my unoptimized staff, please respond"

[bleak tulip]

and when youre focusing on the pile of flak ragers in the middle, the trash aroun it doesnt get the full stacks fast enough but does when the ragers pop

[sturdy dagger]

packs of ragers and maulers, one dies and suddenly its a chain reaction of 400dmg ticks

[umbral helm]

"I know it bends a little to the right but that just gives it character"

[sturdy dagger]

20 maulers gone in one thanks 2 perilous

[spiral storm]

My staff is ribbed

[frigid zenith]

Soulblaze damage with perilous ends up being like 50% of your damage.

[empty hemlock]

when I run gun Psyker I use bb just for the auto proc, and pretty much never actually equip the blitz, just go brr with a autopistol and act like a veteran, just with the pretty consistent instakill

I'm a stupid or I'm a cooking?

[spiral storm]

eeeh

[sturdy dagger]

20 crushers. gone in 2

[spiral storm]

it can be detrimental

if you're using scriers

and BB autoprocs

[fading iris]

I like purgatus more than voidstrike... but the ideal would be surge smite without the random body parts Emperor's dangit, Fat Shark, I like you but Emperor's dangit

[spiral storm]

well you just spent more peril

[frigid zenith]

As always, gunpsyker is a meme, it can be fun but space wizards with guns is just a meme.

[sturdy dagger]

Where did he go

[spiral storm]

An effective meme but still a meme

[sturdy dagger]

this guy is living in my head rent free

with that INSANE take

[spiral storm]

Gun psyker melts bosses

but bolter vet still does it faster I think?

[sturdy dagger]

u gotta stop saying that, its actually kinda really strong lmao

[frigid zenith]

Only becasue the other psyker in the game CCed everyting for you. bwhahahaha

[frigid zenith]

It's a mememememememe

[feral seal]

What's doing the damage? They're super resistant to burn

[glossy ember]

ping the ogryn

[sturdy dagger]

@frigid zenith but

[sturdy dagger]

the burn

thanks 2 my uncanny stick

[spiral storm]

Gun psyker is mostly born from a meme

[frigid zenith]

You doesn't matter what it is or how many there are, as long as they're stacked it's gonna be the same result.

[empty hemlock]

my chainsword two hit kills crushers on Damnation, that's generally my go too atm

[spiral storm]

The idea that you are the magic space wizard with an arsenal of arcane powers

but you pick up a glock

[sturdy dagger]

i think its raw tbh

[spiral storm]

and then Fatshark made it actually work

[sturdy dagger]

channeling said powers into a glock

[sturdy dagger]

wait i already linked u 2 how that works

[spiral storm]

Fire

[glossy ember]

[tame venture]

this worth buying for the blazing spirit?

[frigid zenith]

So? Didn't say anything about the a lack of damage. It's simple. Wizard archtype classes with guns isn't normal, it's a meme.

[empty hemlock]

Assail but it's a boomerang of just throwing guns at people, the extra perk is that it'll spray randomly as its spinning

[spiral storm]

I mean sure if you don't have it

[frigid zenith]

100% yes.

[sturdy dagger]

saying a build/weapon is a meme implies its bad in most contexts

[tame venture]

does it go to 4, or just 3?

[feral seal]

I'm gonna eat you

[umbral helm]

I ran gun psyker before the rework with a shredder and made it work. even brought it into assassination missions and would put them down with the cringe 9mm

[sturdy dagger]

[umbral helm]

was pretty fun

[spiral storm]

doesn't most ballistic weapons in 40k fire like

50AE minimum or some shit

[sturdy dagger]

logs

[empty hemlock]

[umbral helm]

cringe 9mm is more fun to say

[empty hemlock]

10mm > 9mm

[idle marten]

quick question is BB really that bad vs the other two blitz's

[tame venture]

bolters are all 40mm, and somehow hold 60 for the spess muhreen sized ones

[frigid zenith]

A meme is an idea, behavior, or style. Gunpsyker is a style of play that has spread from the normal archtype wizard play of general gaming. It's LITERALLY a meme.

[spiral storm]

No

[fresh reef]

Not really

[empty hemlock]

I only use bb when I never use it, the auto proc is pretty good with guns

[spiral storm]

BB is fine

[idle marten]

thats all i needed thanks~

[fading iris]

Magic

[sturdy dagger]

and calling it one like that also implies its bad

[spiral storm]

mostly depends on build

[sturdy dagger]

like how current surge is a meme

cause its so horrific

[spiral storm]

if your build lacks carapace damage go for BB

[frigid zenith]

surge isn't a meme, it's just bad.

[sturdy dagger]

and thats the meme

go back 2 internet school

[feral seal]

I loved surge..

Surge my beloved

[sturdy dagger]

even before EP bug

but now its just grim

[empty hemlock]

surge is very helpful actually, if your teams struggling you can instantly end the match by dying

[feral seal]

I never used ep bug

[spiral storm]

I classify meme as something that's got a comedy element to it rather than viability

[feral seal]

Warp charges

[spiral storm]

Palpatine bug was a meme

[uncut pier]

Hope they give a buff to Surge, it was funny when you could Zap people into the void, but it was op.

[fading iris]

the body parts thing was a kick in the Emperor's jewels for the surge smite

[sturdy dagger]

yep

its really sad

i want it 2 be viable atleast

[digital narwhal]

They're mocking me.

[fading iris]

still usable, but is zero chill, unforgiven, you messed it up, prepare

[frigid zenith]

There's too many variables that have to come together in a game for space wizards with guns to be consistent.

[fading iris]

I got a clutch on the new map with surge smite, everybody felt weird

[frigid zenith]

ppffttt, just hit your second target, duh.

[fresh reef]

Simple bandaid fix, ironically, would be to just double Surge's damage

[uncut pier]

^ Yup

[digital narwhal]

Can we just get rid of weapon stats?

[sturdy dagger]

nah that would lead 2 stupid things as of rn

cause although 90% of the time the bug gimps ur dmg you can actually headshot with it now

[fading iris]

bro, current shop rolls wants me to play trauma, everywhere I look there is more than one option... and all of them suck

[digital narwhal]

Have everything function as if all stats were 80%
Boom
Crafting fixed

[pearl quest]

best perks for the IV Duelling sword?

[fresh reef]

This wouldn't really work without a power system like VT2 has

[digital narwhal]

Oh ye

forgot that we have to level up

:^)

[fresh reef]

Imagine making leveling even more boring lol

[digital narwhal]

Well let us spend Diamantine to increase our weapon stats, with a maximum total modifier number of 400, instead of the current 380

[sturdy dagger]

use mk2 from what ive seen

[umbral helm]

gotta reinvent the wheel every major title because using what worked before wouldn't be good because... yes

[static needle]

Some might think this is heresy but im doing it

this and scriers gaze

[bleak tulip]

change unyielding to something better at least

[wide galleon]

What is surge smite

oh the staff right click yeah

[digital narwhal]

I mean... with Scrier's, it seems like a fun idea.

Go for it.

[fading iris]

surge staff RMB, the "staff-bound" is a boring name

[static needle]

Helly absolutely warrior-keyboard-murders anyone who mentions that they use voidstrike with surge without nexus

[digital narwhal]

[wide galleon]

did you have a stroke while typing that first part

[static needle]

nope 😉

lemme fix

[wide galleon]

oh ok, was genuinely concerned for your well being friend

[static needle]

[sturdy dagger]

me when i spread misinformation

[digital narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[static needle]

see?

[wide galleon]

I see now

[sturdy dagger]

?

i agreed with him in the end

i told him he can just try both and decide what he likes

[idle bay]

Only void staffs in use withoute Nexus and Surge blessings are those whom players either gave up/or busted all materials in Hadron's casino.

[sturdy dagger]

okay now he might have had a stroke while typing that

[static needle]

[idle bay]

RNG tends to be tad brutal

[sturdy dagger]

hes doing the funny true aim thing

has potential ig

i just dont get it personally

[digital narwhal]

I mean

It's a fun build in theory

[wide galleon]

[digital narwhal]

and on paper, it should work

Just gotta be careful

[sturdy dagger]

the entire point of the double strike from surge is to unalive crushers but ur only getting that crit if ur popping heads in hordes

[umbral helm]

it's hard to multitask sometimes so I get it, stroking my ego and typing requires a lot of focus

[sturdy dagger]

ig u can try 2 keep track of it and just hit horde then single target

[sturdy dagger]

well anything tanky really

again it should work ill try it myself at some point IF I EVER GET SURGE

[lethal lagoon]

Just give up on surge like I have

Maybe melk will bless me one day

[wide galleon]

[idle bay]

Surge blessing does works on charged attack on Void, or it suddenly stopped?

[desert mirage]

Holy shit this basic ass purgatus staff cleans up house as it is

without upgrades

[wide galleon]

[digital narwhal]

I wish Surge worked with Trauma M2

[lethal lagoon]

Ah just what I need, another blessing I can blow tens of thousands of plasteel on and never get.

[supple skiff]

know the feeling

[idle bay]

It would not be an ovirkill at all damage-wise it's low anyway. But in combo with Blazing Spirit - double Soulfire stacks...It would MELT 🙂

[desert mirage]

team mate

im in good hands maybe

[sturdy dagger]

what is blud wafflin about

[sturdy dagger]

dont get 2 excited

i had a level 750 psyker in my lobby a few days ago

dude blew himself up like 6 times

[desert mirage]

[sturdy dagger]

[supple skiff]

the best psykers are only ever threatened by their own hubris

[lethal lagoon]

Here I thought i was the only one running the Meta Wound Psyker Nuke build

Damn, they'll probably nerf it

[digital narwhal]

My friend just tried to tell me that Slaughterer Illisi + Blazing Trauma with Creeping Flames, Perilous Combustion and True Aim isn’t a good Soulblaze build.

[idle bay]

He was doing Going Out With a Bang Penance 😉

[supple skiff]

Id take a keystone to let me pop without being downed

[velvet spear]

any hope they'll "fix" the random body targeting issue with surge?

[supple skiff]

probably be garbage

[velvet spear]

or are we sticking those staves in the closet for now

[supple skiff]

wouldnt care

[idle marten]

Question: would Scriers Gaze and Empowered Psioncs wrok well togeter with either BB or Smite? kinda going for a melee focus with a Deimos or Illisi

[supple skiff]

I run scryer with BB

and EP

[idle bay]

I doubleed down on using Surge staff out of spite 🙂

[sturdy dagger]

i want this 2 be a thing so bad

[supple skiff]

you can machine gun a lot of specials

[digital narwhal]

Empowered Psionics works with every build, but maybe not Smite + Scrier’s

[sturdy dagger]

suicidal nuke psyker

[digital narwhal]

Brain Burst works fine with Scrier’s though

[supple skiff]

but idk if its all that great tbh

[lethal lagoon]

Suicidal nuke psyker, but to balance it out you have a 30% chance of summoning a Deamonhost(weakened).

[foggy breach]

I hope so I spent a lot on my surge staff

[idle bay]

To hard to implement. They will more likely add 0.005% damage to some meaninless skill node and then add extra nerfs to vets 🙂 Fits thier new pattern with patches

[idle marten]

is it because Smite doesnt do that much damage even with Psionics? or because of constant peril generation?

[lethal lagoon]

Meh, EP smite does decent damage. Ep smite -> flaming shriek -> Same Ep smite is solid DPS.

It's all about densitity.

[idle marten]

hm neat kinda feeling things out rn i never really played my psyker other then leveling them to 30 for the Penance lmao

[lethal lagoon]

Speaking of which, the new map is great for EP smite, lots of chokepoints with huge enemy densitiy.

[idle bay]

EP Smite also pays for itself oftet giving you that EP charge back

[idle marten]

with how Scriers works would running Exorcist be best to run on a force sword? given thequiel on weakspot

[lethal lagoon]

I mean, unless you are memeing, Scriers isn't really a melee thing.

[idle marten]

its half a meme thing if im being honest i wanna make a melee psyker lmao

[digital narwhal]

Exorcist with Slaughterer seems fine for a Scrier’s Force Sword, yeah

[lethal lagoon]

mk4 dueling sword makes a better meme melee scier's psyker.

Giving up uncanny on a force sword melee build is rough though

[static needle]

Is voidstrike with flurry + surge any good?

[idle marten]

how about Exorcist and Uncanny

[sturdy dagger]

its plenty good for melee just hit heads

[lethal lagoon]

Giving up slaughterer on a force sword melee build is rough though

[glossy ember]

yesss yeesssss

[sturdy dagger]

become the schizo psyker

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1170291096010629140/melee_psyker.mp4?ex=65588184&is=65460c84&hm=0c2d6e2b04cccb578b35e5804afb345e3568084c62bdaa1a0ccff1cf10360ac8&

[bleak tulip]

PURP

[lethal lagoon]

I have my screen brightness pretty low and that still flashbanged me

[digital narwhal]

Scrier's works just fine for melee

[bleak tulip]

makes you zoom

[lethal lagoon]

I mean when it comes down to it everything works just fine, including current surge, for auric t5s.

[glossy ember]

why not

it's free damage

[sturdy dagger]

it genuinly is good

[lethal lagoon]

Cause it's better to be shooting or whatever during sciriers?

[sturdy dagger]

?

[glossy ember]

i mean that depends on the situation

i sometimes pop scrier and melee because there's a horde on my ass and multiple ragers and i need em down quicc

not gonna switch to staff there

[sturdy dagger]

this can all be done just fine with melee simply hit heads

[glossy ember]

gives mobility too so shouldn't be hard closing in on enemies if you do a melee build for scrier

[sturdy dagger]

it turns illisi into a zealot tier horde muncher

[lethal lagoon]

Squishiest class doing a melee build is a meme, I won't be moved. It is fun as fuck though.

[glossy ember]

just avoid the melee damage bro

[lethal lagoon]

Man, I miss when the new force swords came out, they had inherent deflector

Now there was a melee psyker build

Uncanny/peril dam, slaughter, and deflector

[digital narwhal]

I mean, I pop Scrier's for my Uncanny Strike + Flesh Tearer Combat Knife when I gotta deal with a group of Crushers

[glossy ember]

do you relaly need deflector when scrier gives you 20% crit rate, with evasion on crit talent

add shred if you really don't want to miss a crit

[lethal lagoon]

Nah, but it was satisfying

[west stream]

Learn2dodge

But yes, when you dodge into a corner the sparkhead abuse piles up quick

Still love crit duelling blade thrust

And scryer helpeth

[lethal lagoon]

Now melee psyker mk4 on Melee malestrom, that's no meme.

[snow coral]

anyone else notice Hadron's voice has a lot more mechanical feedback when talking in the valkryie?

[willow hazel]

Why is Psyker squishy? Infinite pushes and peril blocking make it really hard to die in melee. While being immune to range attacks with Empathetic Evasion.

[fading iris]

sorry, I just use optimal builds, like using my curios as weapon

[south gull]

smite

[brazen warren]

psyker has really really good toughness regen, but low health and toughness capacity. so if you are managing your peril correctly you are quite tanky overall

but you are vulnerable to burst

[untold widget]

What really chaps my ass is if I land a smite on a grenadier before they throw the grenade, they drop the grenade.

which, by the by, is FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE

I'm gonna go visit fatshark studio and start tasing their developers while they're holding a ball, and their only objective will be to drop the ball.

[lethal lagoon]

Magical electricty follows different rules

🙂

[fading iris]

i would advice no to do that, because some will grip, some will drop and you will have some, probably at the end, that because of the adrenaline will not feel a thing and keep running

[harsh urchin]

that won't work

[untold widget]

you can't drop though. that's the entire danger of electrocution. your muscles lock and you can't unlock them

[harsh urchin]

because the studio is empty

they're all on vacation

cuz they're swedish

[fading iris]

You can, some ppl when tased will have the opening spasm then lock, that's why sometimes the suspect gets tazed, drops the weapon

and I put a tazed instead of tased, gonna run with that, extra zappy

[desert mirage]

cloud radius killed it

is this worth grabbing?

[plucky flax]

[static needle]

How could anyone in any way suggest that a voidstrike with surge + nexus is better than a staff with flurry + nexus? The charge rate is just so abysmal without flurry that you will more easily get overwhelmed and cant put as much pressure down

[idle aurora]

Bruh i despise stat spread rng sometimes

[static needle]

@sturdy dagger Your opinion on this?

[idle aurora]

legit could just remove 18% from quell into other 2, and would be awesome

[glossy ember]

they took my STAFF, they took my HAIR.

[plucky flax]

[glossy ember]

[desert mirage]

so not good?

[supple skiff]

dont suppose there's a way to turn off cross play

[desert mirage]

emperor gave me this however

[supple skiff]

starting to notice a pattern with my more rough games

[plucky flax]

Console players can but steam can't.

It's racist.

[desert mirage]

I got my first 20% health curio wahayy

[idle aurora]

Not the worst, but blast radius is important imo, good on other stats atleast

my ideal staff is 80 in everything and 60 on quell

[desert mirage]

is quell not important/

[digital narwhal]

Had someone accuse me of cheating because of my high damage and low damage taken

Darktiders, man

[idle aurora]

You don't want it to be super low, that's 100%, 60 and above works for me very nicely

Some people like it the other way, lower warp resist to generate it faster for bonuses, but faster quell to control it better

[west stream]

You cheated....death

[desert mirage]

whats better for purgatus, carapace, unyielding, or crit?

[tepid umbra]

Has anyone made any good builds after patch?

[broken pollen]

Fair point but if every staff will be eventually reduced to nothing but a CC tool then the only alternative is gunpsyker.

That is again me needlessly fearmongering but I wouldn’t put it past fatbitch to do something like that

[static needle]

I need help to choose the blessings for my voidstrikes

[idle aurora]

I joined malice to farm monsters for melk, one shotted dh, the guy looked at me and just dced in silence

I laughed pretty hard

[static needle]

What should i run on this? i dont wanna run flurry + nexus

[willow hazel]

Is it just me or does Disrupt Destiny fail to give stacks half the time?

[sturdy dagger]

i thought it was fixed

[willow hazel]

Like I am getting the 20% move speed, but sometimes it just never grants the actual stack

[bleak tulip]

it always gave stacks before it just didnt show the highlight for every time

so this would be new

[willow hazel]

I feel like it did this even patch 14

[static needle]

@bleak tulip If you run voidstrike with flurry + surge, how in the world are u gonna make use of that crit damage? you dont have anything to increase your crit chance except for scrier's gaze if u run that

[umbral helm]

I mean, I feel like most people that run DD don't actually use it for the precision bonus stacks and more the move speed and stuff. it's a nice bonus but the mobility is the true appeal

[bleak tulip]

I dont

[plain rune]

are people actually running scrier outside of gunpsyker

[eager mantle]

Does DD require you to get the kill or just the enemy needs to be dead?

[plain rune]

i thought it was a meme

[sturdy dagger]

genuinly? sounds like a skill issue

[bleak tulip]

melee psyker

[sturdy dagger]

idk what 2 say

does ur staff have charge rate as dump stat or something

[static needle]

What should i run on voidstrike besides flurry + nexus and nexus + surge? any other good blessing combos?

[umbral helm]

I ran it with surge for a little bit for the meme of it. assuming I managed my peril well it... actually kinda worked, though it wasn't efficient in the slightest

[static needle]

its 70

[plain rune]

honestly just run transfer peril and flurry if you go for hordes

otherwise its nexus surge

[static needle]

what should i pick for pure single target?

for staff

[plain rune]

nexus surge

[static needle]

okidoke

[plain rune]

infinite ammo plasma gun damage basically

[shadow quail]

can use smite for free crits on the void now too

[plain rune]

even higher considering node choices

[covert talon]

Hey is anybody planning on making a team me and my bro looking

[plain rune]

team

what for

[velvet spear]

he's putting together a team

[plain rune]

for what

[sturdy dagger]

a team

[shadow quail]

darktide?

[deep whale]

Has anyone from FS said if they were fixing Scriers Gaze not gaining any CDR from warp charges?

[plain rune]

penance, auric, sigmar grind

[sturdy dagger]

beyond that ofc

[plain rune]

what

[sturdy dagger]

his goals are beyond ur understanding

[heady garnet]

So many goddamn vets

[plain rune]

is he kevin

[sturdy dagger]

#vox-lfg-lexicanum

[shadow quail]

surge blessing

[sturdy dagger]

.. the blessing..

he deleted it

[plain rune]

invalid

[willow hazel]

yeah reread it

[sturdy dagger]

coward

[plain rune]

surge was bugged

[sturdy dagger]

surge is bugged

[plain rune]

its supposed to be bad

[sturdy dagger]

no no

[plain rune]

wait

[sturdy dagger]

its even worse now

they fucked it beyond repair

[velvet spear]

yeah they fixed the surge bug

[plain rune]

how

[sturdy dagger]

worse than it was before EP bug

[velvet spear]

it works as intended now, ak anot

[sturdy dagger]

nope

its broken

[plain rune]

just how

[sturdy dagger]

bad broken

[willow hazel]

It targets limbs

[sturdy dagger]

yep

[willow hazel]

which take 50% ranged damge

[velvet spear]

broken beyond repair = preferred by devs

[willow hazel]

Crushers went from a 3-4 shot to 6+

[plain rune]

uh oh

whoopsy

[sturdy dagger]

the copium upside is

[willow hazel]

It can fail to kill trappers

[sturdy dagger]

u can very rarely headshot with it now

[plain rune]

wow

amazing

[south gull]

i love when gunners stun lock you and prevent dropping bubble in auric :)_

[sturdy dagger]

but yh unusable

like my bro

[plain rune]

its usable

for lmb

[sturdy dagger]

i damm near shitmyself when i charged up and hit a dreg shooter

and it didnt die

[plain rune]

i have 550 power surge

you cant do this to me

https://tenor.com/view/anger-yelling-you-know-how-much-i-sacrificed-willen-dafoe-green-goblin-gif-15742158

pre craft staff

gone

[sturdy dagger]

[fading iris]

Don't worry about, my 502 is carrying me, you will be fine

[plain rune]

i will switch to

purgatus

and knife

[limber tartan]

Damn that surge build really be popping off on Uprising

[sturdy dagger]

[plain rune]

i reject new meta

and return to beta monkey

[sturdy dagger]

[plain rune]

purgatus warp stack bb psyker

[frail sand]

the doggos can wall jump now right?

[sturdy dagger]

[plain rune]

with peril block

no one can stop me

[sturdy dagger]

my beloved

[plain rune]

running efficiency and stamina knife

is there running efficiency

blocking then

and 3 3 stamina cucos

i am the flamer ogryn of 1.0 patch

[icy spoke]

I always used this

[sturdy dagger]

ditto

purge my beloved

[icy spoke]

It's good

[sturdy dagger]

OH HEY FELLO PURGE ENJOYER WANNA SEE SOMETHING FUNNY

[plain rune]

remember when peril blocking had INSANE passive quell speed

i do

[near wyvern]

Get +unarmoured, +flak and invest in full warp battery. Stack up Perfect Timing and try again.

[plain rune]

and i fucking miss it

[sturdy dagger]

[sturdy dagger]

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-better-homelander-antony-starr-the-boys-im-better-gif-25853880

[near wyvern]

Yeah that shit was OP as what

[icy spoke]

Purge + BB on-hit is something to behold if RNGsus gives you it's power

[plain rune]

yes

i use it

and always get lucky

skill i mean

[icy spoke]

Ah yes, dueling sword cound tank a horde with DH, good times

[sturdy dagger]

are any of my fellow purge enjoyers seeing this insane take

[plain rune]

its all my skill

tbh i am just a god gamer

no doubt

[icy spoke]

Your beloved is surely with you

[fading iris]

my spam lmb panic mode is 100% helping me on getting the buffs to explode things with the surge smite

[near wyvern]

Omega YEET
https://streamable.com/pda6zo

[plain rune]

so funny to see how in mixed horde random bb from purge kills rager

like its totally planned

didnt even think of switching to melee

[sturdy dagger]

tf is perfect timing

[fading iris]

the shard did a sick kansei drifto before hitting the second target

[plain rune]

hot take but

assail is still good

[near wyvern]

Second talent on the right after mettle, top of the tree.

[sturdy dagger]

and why would i rebuild my surge staff for a bug

[fading iris]

Perfect Timming is nice, always helps

[sturdy dagger]

oh i use that on half my builds i just forgor what it was called

[near wyvern]

Because it's still usable. I get consistent 1 shots and 2 shots on everything human sized except maulers.

[sturdy dagger]

copium

just buff it man

yall are fighting for a staff on life support and if ya keep it up fartshark will actually listen and leave it in its sad fucking state

[near wyvern]

Obviously it needs a buff, the crusher damage is hurting badly, but it's still very usable.

[plain rune]

vermintide moment

[near wyvern]

They do crazy things at times

[plain rune]

rip flamer and conflag

[feral seal]

Sometimes requisition isn't toooooo bad

Servicable

[sturdy dagger]

it prolly is but a tier 1 blessing burns the eyes

[fading iris]

"Oh, Pygex is recording? Let me style on this herectic fool!" -The shard probably

[feral seal]

I mean, any amount of peril transfer is the same as max rank

Dropping a charged shot at head level through chaff instantly quells all peril

[near wyvern]

You don't even need to crit to kill shotgunners
https://streamable.com/gkfxhj

[fading iris]

"Hey pal... CATCH!"

[near wyvern]

Last time I checked, transfer peril procs only once per attack. You sure you are not running battle meditation?

Or did they change it

[glossy ember]

bro it can fail to kill shotgunners

[willow hazel]

it can fail to kill normal enemies

[kindred wigeon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/759468968397504512/1174423646035525672/Edging_Their_Perils.mp4?ex=65678a40&is=65551540&hm=72c10d791b622beebfee7046a57713d230526c82993159d61cf4c007d174dc39&

[fading iris]

accurate

[glossy ember]

[plain rune]

no

[fading iris]

Space Wolves be like

[desert mirage]

Im ending it, lmao

[ashen trellis]

whats the best horde clearing melee option?

[idle bay]

Mission reward. Looks pretty 🙂 i keep it

[steel flame]

When did they change transfer peril to once per attack? News to me

[proven hazel]

is 380 the highest for weapon modifiers or can it go to 400?

[steel flame]

380

[desert mirage]

380 yea

[proven hazel]

ah ok

[plain rune]

400 is possible

with cheats

[proven hazel]

so is it worth replacing my old staff with this new one?

[willow hazel]

Illisi or Catachan. Or anything with Scrier's

[south gull]

Imagine if dome pushed people out upon cast

[steel flame]

@near wyvern are you sure you arent confusing transfer peril with exorcist?

[steel flame]

Honestly I'd love if it would, then I could sacrifice those pesky vets to the abyss

[eager mantle]

Vets would be in shambles

[south gull]

vets already on heretic watch

[plain rune]

no burn is most important stat

[steel flame]

They cant watch if they are dead

[eager mantle]

Not I, Vets are doing fine. Their brains are rattled a bit but they'll recover

[fading iris]

[plain rune]

i play knife vet with bleed

[south gull]

makes more sense than giving toughness inside a circle

[steel flame]

I finally started leveling vet and Ive got a whole backstab setup going, it's extremely fun being able to play super aggro with vet now

It's what i disliked the most about vet, before you were only incentivized to stand there and shoot. SO BORING ZZZZZZZZ

[quasi junco]

Am I a bad if I want to run a force sword with the deflector blessing? On my shriek builds cuz no shield

would be nice for the surprise angry gunner moments

[south gull]

deflector blessing has saved me more times than I can count

especially in auric

[quasi junco]

Can that blessing go on all force swords?

[south gull]

probably

[visual adder]

You guys ever take a bath but you’re so mortally tired that you fall asleep with the faucet on and wake up two hours later with your bathroom nearly sunk.

Yeah me too

[quasi junco]

Don’t drown bro

Don’t do a Matthe…. Wait too soon

[visual adder]

[hidden crystal]

All "Blaze Force Swords", yes.

[feral seal]

Warp flurry 4 has instantly made void my favorite staff DAMN

[fresh reef]

Vet tree would be so much more agreeable if they just removed/combined like, 6 of the more useless blue nodes and added more branches between each section

[hidden crystal]

And no, you're perfectly entitled to want to run that blessing.

[hot zephyr]

Keep, or rip the Deadly Accurate blessing off this?

[hidden crystal]

It tends to need to be stacked with extra stamina and/or Kinetic Deflection to get the most out of it, but it's a solid utility blessing.

[quasi junco]

Thanks. I’ll probably run Blazing to match my blazing trauma staff and build

Along with deflector

[hidden crystal]

I've never liked Deadly Accurate. It relies on simultaneously getting a crit and a weak spot hit, and then that needs to not be enough to kill the enemy anyway.

Sure, there's a few enemy types a standard weakspot crit won't kill, but for the blessing to be useful against them, you have to get that random crit.

And I know that's less bad than it used to be, with more crit chance bonuses than there were, but I'd so much rather have something dependable like Ghost or Between the Eyes.

(Which remains my favourite combo on the marksman weapons).

[harsh urchin]

keep it until you get a weapon you want to transfer it to

deadly accurate is really good on vrak3

[sturdy dagger]

well its bad without headhunter as far as i know

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, I realize it's very well rolled even if it's only a 347

Zero investment, just came off the line like this

[harsh urchin]

you can put HH on it and try it out

should do pretty well with HH + true aim

[hidden crystal]

Eh, I'd rather have ammo as a dump than stopping power.

[harsh urchin]

you dont want to dump either stat lol

stopping power directly affects your damage

and ammo affects your team's ammo economy and your clip size

[hidden crystal]

So does Stopping Power.

Taking two trigger pulls to drop a target is bad for ammo economy too.

If I had to pick one to dump, it'd always be ammo.

[brazen warren]

strip the blessing, without 75-80% in both stopping power and damage it is not worth it.

[azure bridge]

is the las pistol a good single tagert alternative to say void staff?

[eager mantle]

I have dreams of deflector on dueling swords

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, I have a decent MG Ia Las I want to put it on for a Warp Rider / Battery Gunner build so that's why I'm thinking strip it.

[brazen warren]

outside of those 2 stats, the rest are preference. mobility can help to maneuver mid gunfight while you are ADS. Ammo is more team oriented(but vraks 3 is a boss dps/anti shooter weapon so does not need as much). Stability is borderline good because the burst fire makes it kick enough that the consistency helps with your effective damage output

[hidden crystal]

Won't work.

Those are different weapon classes, they don't share a blessing pool.

[hot zephyr]

Oh, well then. There's no debate then

I thought you could just strip and rebless whatever

As long as it was something it could take

[hidden crystal]

No, alas. They're kind of opaque about telling you that.

[hot zephyr]

Well, at least I know now

[hidden crystal]

The name after the weapon mark has to be the same.

[hot zephyr]

So like, Headhunters all share, IAGs all share, Lasguns all share? but not between those types?

[hidden crystal]

Yeah, Headhunter Autoguns can share, and Infantry Lasguns can share, but not between categories.

(So not all Lasguns either - Recon, Helbore and Infantry are all different classes)

This is irritating with staffs, because those are all their own category.

[brazen warren]

why the MG ia lasgun in particular as a weapon choice?

[hidden crystal]

Low recoil, I think.

[delicate echo]

any psyker want to help me get cliffhanger?

[hot zephyr]

I suck with headhunters just because I don't have steady hands for burst firing, so a semi or a full auto works better for me as a human being

It's less about class/meta and more dealing with having crappy reflexes

[brazen warren]

not throwing any assumptions, was just curious about the choice is all. I like the columnus because I dont have to aim as hard so we are in the same boat

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, I do very well with the Agripinaa Mk1 and Columnus as well. I have multiple Gunker builds

I feel like since returning and the "new" talent tree I'm having to kinda repiece together my builds so I can start running missions again, because the meta has changed a LOT since Patch #2 when I last played

[fading iris]

"The people's champ!"

[strong gulch]

If you can't find help in here now, you can try asking later or the #vox-lfg-lexicanum channels.

[hot zephyr]

So I'm just kinda trying to figure out what weapons to pair with Assail and Smite since I was used to only have BB when I last played

Lasgun builds seem to pair with Smite nicely in my head, while Assail probably works better with a Columnus or Agripinaa

At least for me

[sturdy dagger]

outside of infernus las pistol i dont think ive ever seen a psyker use lasguns

[strong gulch]

Assail works well on anything that can quick swap.

[hot zephyr]

It's less about meta, and matching the maps/mission/group to my build imo. Some missions having longer range weapons can be very helpful, while other times it's better to specialize in CQC

[strong gulch]

Also hi @hidden crystal. Long time no see.

[hot zephyr]

So the Las setup is to cover those longer-range situations

[azure bridge]

Las smite bubble?

Just a thought that came to mind

[limber tartan]

I've been running with laspistol for weeks now

[hot zephyr]

Yeah I've been debating Gaze vs Bubble since Las seems to lend itself to a Warp Battery build

[glossy ember]

just finished one match with voidstrike

man i hate it

makes me feel slower than an ogryn

[limber tartan]

Voidstrike is that one where you charge a big ball ye ?

[azure bridge]

So one of my wants for builds seems to align with yours. I want a build with an answer for every situation I can

[glossy ember]

yea

[limber tartan]

Damn that's soo fun

[random jay]

stubborn psyker won't swap off rupture / wall for carnival then proceeds to act like its our fault for not protecting him

[limber tartan]

I really do enjoy it

[azure bridge]

Which Las pistol do you use freddy?

[sturdy dagger]

its so fucking clunky but godamm it can be satisfying

[sturdy dagger]

? u asking people 2 swap of there builds?

[limber tartan]

The pistol laspistol

The only laspistol there is

[azure bridge]

I saw someone say hellfire pistol I mistook it as a separate one

[random jay]

nah he would just seethe in disc that the party of 3 wasn't catering to him, kept wandering off & wouldn't stay in coherency

[quasi junco]

I’m digging trauma staff, I think it’s underrated

[sturdy dagger]

idk if i would call it underrated

[trim garnet]

i never see people use trauma properly in pubs

[sturdy dagger]

i think alot of people just dont like how it targets/skill issue

[limber tartan]

I've been running it with smite for a while because i thought of it as utility to the team, didn't think bb could be good because i just have a gun and thats just better but now i changed my perks a bit to try assail with it as a means to clear hordes faster soo i can end up shooting more

[sturdy dagger]

its defo good

[glossy ember]

i just had a 500k game with it and i'll be honest i felt incredibly bored

[sturdy dagger]

well

[glossy ember]

getting a bowling ball strike on like

[sturdy dagger]

it lacks tech like surge

[glossy ember]

15 hertics is nice

but that's it

[spice veldt]

and people getting a bad impression from a trauma with bad stats

[sturdy dagger]

ur wacky blitzs cancel was fun 2 do for the last days of surge

[spice veldt]

since it has one of the widest stat scalings in the game

[glossy ember]

yeah...

[trim garnet]

what is the surge tech

[glossy ember]

it's "switch to another weapon for now"

[sturdy dagger]

as soon as u let go of the charge swap 2 blitz and the dmg come sout instantly

[glossy ember]

[trim garnet]

oh neat

[sturdy dagger]

oh yeah current surge tech is 2 just

not use it

[trim garnet]

[sturdy dagger]

they fixed the exploit and gave it a new bug

[trim garnet]

monkeys paw curled when we asked for them to fix smite surge

[sturdy dagger]

staff is currently the worse it has ever been

[trim garnet]

so tragic

[limber tartan]

Also i just unironically lost a game i carried because some dude shot a poxburster i was about to push away and i fell outside of the map

[glossy ember]

i think im just gonna level up my veteran for now

[trim garnet]

ive been playing dd scrier voidstrike a lot lately

[glossy ember]

no motivation to play psyker

especially since im fucking BALD

[sturdy dagger]

new map really likes purge staff so im getting some neuron activation there

[limber tartan]

The bonus damage on scriers is nice but the real good shit is the crit chance and movement speed

[spice veldt]

pro tip: don't be bald

[glossy ember]

it's like being at 2 warp siphon stacks to begin with so it's nice

2.5 actually

[azure bridge]

I'm bald... bald is great

[limber tartan]

with all the movement speed perks you can get from psyker tree + 20% bonus movement speed from scriers and you can kite bosses with a laspistol which currently shreds bosses like butter with the right perks

[azure bridge]

What perks?

I am very interested in Las pistol and boss shredding

[glossy ember]

i'd need to build a purg staff