psyker-class

[digital narwhal]

Gun Psyker is a back and forth between Assail and your weapons.

[sturdy dagger]

there was like twice this dead in this nuke, the killfeed just rolled down for like 4 seconds straight lmfao

[west stream]

works best with revolvers/laspistol/one of crit guns

[fringe tangle]

This tbh.

[digital narwhal]

Use your weapons to build Malefic Momentum, and use Assail to build Peril for Warp Rider

[eager mantle]

Feel like I'm pigeon holed into only realistically holding out in the entrance area of the amphitheater

[digital narwhal]

and loop

[idle bay]

Now it's 6 stack for killing 2. Still pointless nerf. Not like SOLID nerfs that Vets got

[fringe tangle]

Well, that's the best spot to hold, other places have too much angles and shooter spam.

[digital narwhal]

6 stacks is enough to kill Poxwalkers outright.
That's still extremely strong.

[eager mantle]

Oh yea. The reaper squads are rare for me but they always make me go in awe when I see the feed

[digital narwhal]

Free Soulblaze for killing enemies is strong.

[fringe tangle]

Vet just keeps getting nerfed over and over lol.

[summer prairie]

Reminder that Perilous Combustion / Wrack and Ruin used to be 2 stacks of SB to targets within 3 meters and only if you use BB

[digital narwhal]

9 stacks of Soulblaze will kill Gunners, Shotgunners, and Specialists of a similar health value.

[summer prairie]

and you had to sacrice one of your 6 talents for it

[eager mantle]

Vets need to stop doomposting. I played mine on hi intensity shock gauntlet on the new map. We're fine

[idle bay]

But the nerf itself was pathetic and meaninless - waste of workhours

[fringe tangle]

I remember when it was shit lol.

[summer prairie]

I'm sure it took many hours to change a number

[fringe tangle]

and yeah FS is slow.

[digital narwhal]

Perilous is amazing, and saying the nerf was unnecessary and meaningless makes you come off ill informed.

[sturdy dagger]

why do u keep saying pathetic you fucking edgelord what are you talking about

[fringe tangle]

I guess the shark do be fat though, explains the slowness.

[west stream]

dont forget to also melee by using increased move speed to run around like a coked up mutie

[sturdy dagger]

if a perk like that goes unchecked when we have other ways of stacking loads of soulblaze it would be foul

[digital narwhal]

Wyck is trying so hard to be right, but they're wrong for so many reasons

[west stream]

Love me full charges scryer duellist blade

[sturdy dagger]

it literally scales in strength with horde density and difficulty

[digital narwhal]

"Oh no, they nerfed an overtuned ability. Let's go complain on Discord."

[west stream]

@somber dew also, I recommend getting empathic evasion

[digital narwhal]

Like, if there's a group of 12 Gunners, I kill 3 of them, and then rest burn to death.
You only need to kill 2 before Patch 14.
How is that not good?

[west stream]

it's pretty great

[digital narwhal]

And how was the nerf unnecessary?

[hollow jolt]

Its not that Vets are nerfed, its mostly this chart

[late yew]

i never seen more than 5 reapers at once

[hollow jolt]

Vets can't help but bitch at the smallest number change

[somber dew]

Is that on the talent tree?

[late yew]

I love it though

[west stream]

yes

[sturdy dagger]

@late yew theres 6 in the killfeed right there and way more seconds after

[idle bay]

No i critizing fatshark for spening thier effort on bullshit instead of things that matter, like crafting or fixing bug, And not on "cosmetic" level of ability tweaking that does not achive anything meaningful.

[west stream]

it's sorta similar to Ghost blessing, so it's a good way to save one

lets you duel gunner platoons easily

[digital narwhal]

Perilous Combustion lets you kill 2 or 3 Elites, and then everything else around them short of Ogryns, Maulers, and Muties just die.

[eager mantle]

I agree. I lead with my incomparable mind

[west stream]

so long you land shots

[digital narwhal]

THE NERF WAS NECESSARY

You're just an idiot

Plus, they have teams working on different things.

[hollow jolt]

They should buff Voice of Command and Survivalist UwU"

[digital narwhal]

You act like the whole studio only does one thing at a time

[west stream]

pretty much every other shot should be a crit, more so if running Scryers

so is good

[hollow jolt]

1% ammo gain -> 10% 💪💪💪

[digital narwhal]

[eager mantle]

Oh it's fun but I can't help but laugh when I see it

[late yew]

even better

i love silly things and bugs in games

[idle bay]

Like breaking Spawn director in a new hilarious ways.

[fringe tangle]

lmao. They did get nerfed in the recent patch though, like a bunch of the skills got weaker and the keystones are kind of mid. Also it costs so many points just to reach a keystone lol. Like basically the vet tree is fucked rn.

[digital narwhal]

The increase in spawns with this patch are intended.

The game needed to be harder so

they made it harder.

[west stream]

Finally a reason for flamethrowers and purgatus Ill say

[late yew]

You know what combo would be interesting

[west stream]

the wall of flesh is real

[late yew]

Assail with True Aim plus revolver

[idle bay]

Not in every area. In some areas he for some reason - lobomizes itself and regular diffculty-valid spawns nothing extra.

[digital narwhal]

I use that often.
It's strong and fun.

Simple as.

[shell igloo]

I don't think I'm a fan of the common spawns of 10+ ragers or gunners. It just feels goofy

[hollow jolt]

I worded that wrong. I meant Vets will bitch regardless of the nerf

[fringe tangle]

ah, I see.

[eager mantle]

Yea I started playing like a week before the class tree update. I now only play auric damnation. Some runs can be really chill. I feel the highest difficulty should be more

[hollow jolt]

Patch 14 Vet also had them bitching

[west stream]

true aim and evasion is good in any case, with revolver could be cool specially with handcannon

[hollow jolt]

Even though that's the strongest Vet has been lol

[west stream]

I think

[digital narwhal]

"regular difficulty"

Please use game terms

I'm not a mind reader

[sturdy dagger]

i always used purge ez top dmg farming

[late yew]

Also true aim probably great for blaze trauma

[digital narwhal]

It is

Melee a bit
Guaranteed blast

[hollow jolt]

Regular difficulty = Auric Maelstrom 👍

[sturdy dagger]

for most experienced players damnation is "normal" sooooooooo

[hollow jolt]

I still find it funny that standard damnation is harder than Auric

[west stream]

I play heresy normal

[digital narwhal]

Damnation is Weenie Hut Jrs

[west stream]

tbh

[digital narwhal]

[idle bay]

Base difficulty (like Damnation, Herese and so on) without extra difficulty modifiers

[sturdy dagger]

heresy is where i go when i wanna test a weapon i aint even consecrated yet

[digital narwhal]

So say "base Damnation" or "base Heresy"

[fringe tangle]

Yeah I'd say damnation is "Normal" and auric is "Money farm challenge time"

[hollow jolt]

Sorry I need plasteel and Nurgle keeps sending his strongest trappers in Auric 😔

[digital narwhal]

Please and thank you.

[idle bay]

One monent you fight tooth and nail. Go into event location and in event location - it's like all modifiers are off.

[digital narwhal]

Anyway, base Damnation and base Heresy aren't always gonna be mega brutal.

Go play High Intensity or something

[west stream]

modifiers for mission are key really

[digital narwhal]

Also, complaining about it not being hectic enough on Heresy is funny

[summer prairie]

I don't see any changes besides ramp time on maelstorm and hi int shock troop maps

[digital narwhal]

[west stream]

bunch of a special can catch parties off guard

[eager mantle]

I just wish mission completions would have crafting material as a base reward (scaling with difficulty) and the stuff you find during the mission would be extra.

[idle bay]

That what i ment. That at some instances mostly event related - those extra ( STG Hi-Int) are turning off. Shining example - repair mission final area

[summer prairie]

and of course new enemy spawn locations on many maps, those matter

[eager mantle]

I groan whenever my friend chooses low intensity heresy

[west stream]

mfw 4 trappers spawn out of same doors and fire in a split second

(I dodged into a wall)

[sturdy dagger]

just dodge 4 times

?

[fringe tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/nigel-marven-bob-rod-arthur-prehistoric-park-net-gif-26520977

[sturdy dagger]

or better yet use ur designated panic button i swear every class has one these days

[digital narwhal]

No, they're not.

[late yew]

only because Auric generally played by more competent people

[west stream]

laspistol forceshove

[idle bay]

Then why there is no rager squad drops, ot tripple poxbuster spawns, ot twin-trappers with twin poxhounds, or muties rage train?

[west stream]

but I forget it exists

[tawny raptor]

hey guys, what are the ideal blessings for purg?

[west stream]

that thing staggers great

[fringe tangle]

panic button? You mean the ult?

[sturdy dagger]

can also be ur grenade

[still hearth]

Warp Nexus

[digital narwhal]

I've seen it plenty of times.
Literally just open your eyes.

[sturdy dagger]

zealot stun nades or my favorite

[fringe tangle]

true

[sturdy dagger]

pocket nuke on ogryn

[digital narwhal]

The modifiers remain, just pay attention.

[late yew]

Pretty sure he is sarcastic

[tawny raptor]

ah sorry i didnt mean that, im not sure what the correct thing is but i meant like 25% damage on x

that thing

i forgor the name

[hollow jolt]

Indeed, still funny when my brother says "Lets queue for Auric, I don't want to deal with standard"

[digital narwhal]

[sturdy dagger]

perks

[tawny raptor]

ah yeah perks

sorry bout that

[fringe tangle]

pocket nuke is best panic button, instant exterminatus.

[sturdy dagger]

and the stuff in ur skill tree are talents

[still hearth]

Unyielding, Flak, Maniac or crit chance

[idle bay]

maybe when spawn director shoots of correctly, But i've noticed few times that he is not. Like some triggers not working or something.

[tawny raptor]

aight thanks fellas

[sturdy dagger]

"baggin them u-"

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-mushroom-cloud-atomic-bomb-bomb-boom-gif-4464831

[late yew]

may be one day i will level my level 27 ogryn to 30

but that day

[spark parcel]

I've been queueing standard Damnation during my lunch hour, the teammates ive been matched with are uh, interesting

[late yew]

WILL NOT BE

TODAY

[eager mantle]

Playing the modifier with enhanced blitz is fun with 3 nukes

[digital narwhal]

Nah it's fine for every game.
Maybe your team is just protecting you.

Crazy thought, I know.

[azure bridge]

whats the difference between auric and standard?

[fringe tangle]

The mutators

[still hearth]

+50% more

[digital narwhal]

Auric has a higher threat modifier, meaning there's a higher threshold of "threat" on the map before it'll stop spawning enemies.

[azure bridge]

what would you compare it to, in say vermintide 2, chaos wastes maybe?

[digital narwhal]

It's much less forgiving, essentially.

[hollow jolt]

Indeed, my first run of the day had a gunpsyker that died (not downed) 6 times with 3 wounds lol

Normal damnation 😩

[fringe tangle]

Nah, we don't have CW yet.

[idle bay]

Team doing same routing whole level, there is a pressure whole level, Suprise moments, and heavy melee squad drops, and them it's like.... go on just run this part through fast and go collect your 700 plasteel. maybe because room so big and those nasty spawns got spread and separated?

[eager mantle]

Sorry. Sometimes I'll spam my warp and burst in the first min of the mission

[sturdy dagger]

its cause anyone can queue into it, including the new xbox psyker who still doesnt know what peril does

[azure bridge]

peril what is that? can you eat it? /s

[digital narwhal]

Yes.
It'll give you superpowers.

[eager mantle]

I just discovered this and felt weird seeing a push require peril again

[late yew]

CW is a game mod, really awful comparison

[uneven compass]

After playing auric damnation the past like month I cannot play anything else

[late yew]

Auric is more like Deeds

[azure bridge]

I'll rephrase then, chaos wastes as in enemy density, unique enemy modifiers, and crazy bosses with some kind of gimmic randomally added

Deeds eh

[potent echo]

some say the second hive city will be something like that

[idle bay]

At least trainyard spawn-lock got fixed ~ patch 13. Though it s till works in a way, that team position dictates where spawns will come from.

[azure bridge]

okay i can wrap my head around that

[late yew]

Just try it yourself goddamit

It is simply damnation, but with more enemies

[azure bridge]

i can't level 29 and not at home or i would lol

[spark parcel]

As an example, you know during a Damnation when you get a mutant or two spawning? On some Aurics you can get literally 6+ mutants at once

[late yew]

train of trappers also funny

[azure bridge]

sounds like i'll be glad i speced into smite

[uneven compass]

Lol the amount of mutant yelling you hear in Auric Damnation is hilarious

[spark parcel]

my favorite modifiers are the ones where you get weakened monstrosities mixed in occasionally, or the one where you get waves of armor but no ammo pickups

[azure bridge]

sweats nervously in psyker

[sturdy dagger]

ah yes ofc

not my clip but

[sturdy dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711278587059240970/1164262153642057738/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.10.18_-_18.18.20.02.DVR_-_Trim.mp4?ex=655e4220&is=654bcd20&hm=5e93d5a6f961c449db0c74abed309fb9342d877eeee5715678ef9bebae270372& @azure bridge

[azure bridge]

oh my heavenly emperor

[potent echo]

Uwaaaaaaasaa

[azure bridge]

that is a lot of mutants

what is this a wagh?

[eager mantle]

I like running those right now and be like a bullfighter with my dueling sword. Trying to one shot with a heavy attack in the face and dodge

[digital narwhal]

Considering they died to a light special, that's likely a Mutie Train from the "Waves of Mutants" modifier on a Maelstrom.

Mutie's from Mutie Trains have less HP.

[azure bridge]

still though talk about a butt clenching experience

[sturdy dagger]

yh i think this was also tier 3 mael cause the one clipping this was new so

[idle bay]

If you catch Mutie train with Smite - they will perform a chorus of NSFW sounds mostly synced....

[azure bridge]

lol...

now I have to try this

[idle bay]

Ten try to expalin what is going on to onlookers 🙂

[late yew]

lmao, never seen so many

how you getting all this stuff

reapers

now mutants

[sturdy dagger]

ai director got it out for me or something man

again that was only difficulty 3

[eager mantle]

Tried out lights out monstrous specials. Quite a different experience. Imagine the new map only had a lights out modifier for the first time lmao

[late yew]

10 mutants there

[late yew]

ah, right

[viscid fox]

Smite is by far the strongest phy ability imo

[late yew]

i mean...

[azure bridge]

I love smite

[late yew]

whyile i love it

[azure bridge]

i mix it with bubble shield

[late yew]

but it is not strongest lmao

in fact, it might be weakest

still, i sue it most of the time

[frigid zenith]

Did you guyw know that gunpsyker is a meme?

[azure bridge]

its just nice being able to tell maulers, ragers, and whatever else thats spawned in groups of six to sit the hell down

[eager mantle]

The crayons are delicious

[idle bay]

I still suprised that "elite auric players that to playtests instead of playtesters" did not asked to nerf Smite

[sturdy dagger]

honestly idk what 2 think of psyker blitzs anymore, BB is useable but still tragic, i think assail feels like shit 2 use now but prolly still strong and smite just seems good if ur team is like

human

[viscid fox]

Being able to keep 20 maulers stuck in place is pretty dam op

[frigid zenith]

I like purple the best.

[sturdy dagger]

people still dont understand smite isnt dmg so when i smite a mixed horde my team just stares at it

like man go fucking hit them with ur sticks

[eager mantle]

Purple, warp flavor

[viscid fox]

Yes exactly

[azure bridge]

stuck in place and taking damage (albiet small)

[frigid zenith]

Smite got dicked just like surge, it now targets a random body part each tick unlike before when it was just chest.

[eager mantle]

"Oh sweet smite is happening. Time for tea"

[sturdy dagger]

and?

it was never for dmg

[frigid zenith]

Hell yeah brother.

[idle bay]

Smite is most powerfull CC in the game it was nver about damage. Body parts irrelevant for it.

[sturdy dagger]

i mean its wack for sure but

doesnt really affect smites use cases

[lime creek]

hey guys with the voidstrike staff do yall do charged attacks into hordes of pox wlakers or just spam lights?

[azure bridge]

i mean it does SOME damage, just not like a lot. I find that on a big horde sometimes my team cannot kill enemies fast enough so the smite takes care of the stragglers

[uneven compass]

I hate this so much! Mixed horde with like 15 elites and suddenly everyone forgets how to play once they're stunlocked

[frigid zenith]

I may have misunderstood someones comment, I thought someone thought they didn't nerf the damage on surge.

[eager mantle]

Spam lights. It's more than enough imo

[lime creek]

ty

[sturdy dagger]

use ur horde clear sword u should have on since ur using void

[frigid zenith]

Its situational.

[sturdy dagger]

honestly the void rmb is also really good in tight spaces

[eager mantle]

What I mean is spammed light charges fuck I'm dumb

[frigid zenith]

Pew pew it at your feet.

[sturdy dagger]

lead them through a doorway and just obliterate them in groups

[sturdy dagger]

local sibling asked 2 leave the channel

[eager mantle]

Have a ogryn and just shoot through him

[frigid zenith]

Who brings those anymore?

[sturdy dagger]

?

what game are u playing

illsi is still amazing what

[late yew]

try BB with psionic

[eager mantle]

But dueling sword

[late yew]

and guaranteed stack on elite kills

Really works well

[frigid zenith]

I bring dual dueling swords.

[late yew]

and whne you don't have as tack, just use ult for quicker cast

[sturdy dagger]

i have its defo good but the main build i use BB with is shriek flame purge so the warp siphon cd is 2 nice

[lime creek]

is assail stillgood?

[late yew]

Just change siphon with psionics

[sturdy dagger]

no

i just explained

[eager mantle]

Yes. It does the job it's intended to do

[sturdy dagger]

the cd is 2 nice

0 cooldown shriek

[frigid zenith]

If I bring a force sword I feel like I get more mileage out of deimos. It's quick spam is so much damage.

[late yew]

wait what

how

[lime creek]

so it does, great

[late yew]

Mininmum is 45% cdr

maximum*

[sturdy dagger]

local dwarf discovers exageration

[late yew]

stfu

[south wasp]

Yep, dropped 400K+ DPS last night with it still

[late yew]

It literally WAS 0 seconds before

before they fixed cdr

[sturdy dagger]

[late yew]

So you could have not exaggerated

[sturdy dagger]

still feels like 0 seconds when it starts at 12 and then i kill 10 ragers lmao

[eager mantle]

Some reason I just imagined the vine boom to replace shrieks sound

[frigid zenith]

Were you using a handcannon revolver with it?

[sturdy dagger]

psykinetic aura....

[azure bridge]

so wait is EP smite actually capable of killing ?

[late yew]

Yes

[frigid zenith]

With shriek.

[sturdy dagger]

im gonna try EP BB with some other builds inplace of assail now actually

[late yew]

You kill whole horde with 100% peril

[viscid fox]

That's why you have a team to kill them for you having 20 mauler unable to fight buys your team alot of time to kill them off its a team based game it isn't you vs the world

[south wasp]

No, MK IV sword and I prefer the void strike staff

[sturdy dagger]

the cd change was just 1 second but assail feels like ass 2 me now

[lethal folio]

does about 750 total damage over the cast.

[late yew]

on how many targets?

[digital narwhal]

Yeah

[frigid zenith]

NIce, the only pure assil users I saw were using the handconnon bug.

[azure bridge]

I wana like shreik, but bubble shield exists

[lethal folio]

lots

[digital narwhal]

Assail used with a proper Gun Psyker build can be pretty strong.

[late yew]

yeah, shield is definitely better objectively speaking

[digital narwhal]

I just like using Scrier's Gaze for the extra crit chance with my current build.

Plus, free 20% Toughness DR is nice, too

[azure bridge]

what i use atm, is bubble shield and smite, so i can protec from ranged enemies and cc/minor damage with smite

[south wasp]

Bubble + Assail is just farming easy kills

[uneven compass]

It's very hard to swap off shield, it's useful in every match

[azure bridge]

then when stuff needs to die i whip out the voidstaff

[frigid zenith]

If you don't have people taking care of annoy ranged then shield is clutch.

[sturdy dagger]

id be intrested 2 see a "proper" build, ik this is gonna sound like a flat lie but i was accidentally abusing that rending hand cannon assail bug last patch i just thought "okay gun psyker i use hand cannon 2 pop crushers and assail for mixed hordes" etc etc turns out assail with rending does everything for me

[eager mantle]

I'm trying the laspistol right now with scriers. I need though lvl 4 blessings and a better stat roll but I'm loving it

Fatshark. Let the siblings have shotguns

[azure bridge]

I'd like to think people like having entire hordes/elites/specials cc'd into oblivion

[frigid zenith]

Yeah, I know that feeling. The trauma blaze build is 100% legit and ripppsss

[uneven compass]

Anyone try out a melee focused build? I vaguely remember early on people having a soulblaze force sword thing going on

[sturdy dagger]

melee and gun psyker kinda the same thing imo

[frigid zenith]

They removed infinite dodge.

[azure bridge]

is trauma blaze that good?

[sturdy dagger]

zealot psyker basically

[sturdy dagger]

still trying 2 get my hands on that

[eager mantle]

Dueling sword with scriers gaze can 2-3 shot crushers

[frigid zenith]

Probably the highest damage potential build in the game.

[azure bridge]

might be a silly question but what makes it so good?

[digital narwhal]

Very much so

[frigid zenith]

I about cried the other night, rolled over 40 staves just to get blazing, then my daily had 2 of them the next week.

[sturdy dagger]

yikes.

[uneven compass]

Tempted to try that out since I've never gone with gun psyker before

[sturdy dagger]

i should check milker

@digital narwhal what gun on ur gunker

im thinking of trying colomnus infantry gun next

[lusty mauve]

I have not leveled up a character in a long time, do all rolls for low lvls are for example bellow 350 or how does it work?

[digital narwhal]

Columnus IAG

[frigid zenith]

When used correctly, everything is on fire all the time, and you knock everything on it's ass, you have BB to deal with super long range annoying things and a mk4 dueling sword to insta kill mutants.

[sturdy dagger]

if only its blessings werent close range based

[digital narwhal]

Not an amazing clip, but...

I enjoy the Columnus for what it is.

[digital narwhal]

Nah man, with a proper Gun Psyker build, especially with Columnus, you'll be running around at Mach 5.

[frigid zenith]

If you're ok 2 shotting mutants instead of 1 shotting them then a force sword with deflector is good.

[digital narwhal]

You can get into close range with no issue.

[sinful peak]

Build?

[digital narwhal]

Plus, Soulblaze triggers and benefits from the DumDum Blessing, and if you use Deathspitter, then Soulblaze will also benefit from the +Power from Deathspitter

[frigid zenith]

Just a standard trauma blaze build, lemme try to find one on youtube for a link.

[azure bridge]

is the difference super significant to say a voidstaff build?

[eager mantle]

Feel like I'm zoomin around hordes with my laspistol and dueling sword. I need that blessing for extra damage firing in the back

[sturdy dagger]

@sinful peak @frigid zenith

[digital narwhal]

Raking Fire isn't great on Psyker

[sturdy dagger]

local trauma god already posted

[digital narwhal]

Infernus + DumDum is where it's at for Laspistol

[sinful peak]

Thanks

[frigid zenith]

Yeah, there ya go, Helly got ya covered.

[sturdy dagger]

so many weapons i wanna make so little plasteel........

and farming plasteel is grim cause i have no fun weapons i like rn..........

the voices..........

[frigid zenith]

That's another one of those bugged things that really shouldn't be. Just like handcannon and assail.

[eager mantle]

Got infernus and dum dum on this laspistol but they are only lvl 2 and 3

[frigid zenith]

GOOD ENOUGH

laspistol best pistol.

But on a psyker it's still a meme.

[sturdy dagger]

isnt it best on psyker? im pretty sure we can 1 clip a boss with it

[eager mantle]

The meme is fun

[frigid zenith]

memes can be fin indeed.

[eager mantle]

Almost did 1 run last right. Aim was bad and then the chaos spawn was like "cmere you little shit"

[idle bay]

We can.

[fluid knot]

Yeah imo Vet wasnt nerfed at all, the only minor thing about the new tree is its a bit bloated, if it was slightly less expensive to the get to the bottom, IE; they took out two or three minor nodes on the way down each side/the middle bars, the tree would be fine. There are already some really strong builds in it, that would just make pathing easier

[idle bay]

Vet keystones are design trap! Like button area in the end of new mission 🙂 There is no real need to take them...

[hollow jolt]

I do agree that sharpshooter builds got shafted especially as they can't take Exhilarating Takedown but overall should be fine

[fluid knot]

They actually can..

[hollow jolt]

Without fucking themselves....

[fluid knot]

Observe.. https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1DWk4i65pi8Q4x/d1337f2JqfqX?invite=cr-MSxuaUgsMTc3NjE1NzkwLA

Sure, you take 10% more damage, but you can also fill the whole fucking bar instantly

[hollow jolt]

10-30% more damage

[fluid knot]

Again, you can fill the bar instantly, so it really doesnt make much odds

[hollow jolt]

I'll just take Confirmed Kill or the ping Keystone's Target Down for toughness

[fluid knot]

Shoot once into a horde and bang, you have a full bar, which is great, unless of course you're prone to fucking up and getting hit in melee all the time, in which case, you should probs be playing Ogg or Zealot

[wet belfry]

I think its crazy to say it wasnt a nerf

[lunar hollow]

people are catchin on

finally 🙏

[wet belfry]

Vet has genuinely less toughness and a hard time getting toughness to the same level.

[lunar hollow]

if u have a high cleave weapon ET is fucking hilarious

[hollow jolt]

It buffed the strongest builds but nerfed the rest

[fluid knot]

Nah they aint, they'll still cry that they're underpowered at every opportunity

[lunar hollow]

😔

[fluid knot]

Unless Vet is as OP as it was in the original tree, people are gonna bitch about it

[lunar hollow]

the major issue is that the vet tree is too long but a bunch of people are mad at shit they havent played let alone read the tooltip for

[hollow jolt]

Confirmed Kill + Target Down is enough

[fluid knot]

Yep, i totally agree

[hollow jolt]

I personally wish Vet could go for a grenade build

[fluid knot]

I was very spun initially by it myself, after about an hour of play i was like "ohhhh i get it now"

[hollow jolt]

Was hoping for a grenade keystone

[lunar hollow]

yeah, once you start actually trying it and figuring out how stuff works its not bad at all

[hollow jolt]

I'll use it once they fix it, its been acknowledged at least

[lunar hollow]

but people are real mad that a keystone "promotes not moving" even though it gives u mechanics to keep the fucking stacks while moving and all you do is click someone's head once every 3 seconds

[fluid knot]

If anything, its significantly better. Just trim off some of the fat, an the tree is as good as any other

[hollow jolt]

That keystone is comfy

[eager mantle]

I mean straight up vet was in fact nerfed with a lot of the nodes getting their numbers down but that could also mean his numbers were overtuned. With my short amount of games, the numerical nerfs as a whole in actual gameplay don't hurt

[hollow jolt]

Laspistol time 💪💪💪

[hollow jolt]

The only one that truly hurt me was the Voice of Command nerd

[fluid knot]

Yeah.. because people often dont see beyond the "on paper" nerfs

[hollow jolt]

Because I can't facetank poxbursters

[lunar hollow]

the numbers on certain nodes went down because the keystones are pretty much all damage/DPS increases

and the bottom middle tree on p13 release had 5+ nodes that were just mandatory

[eager mantle]

Also the stacks go away 1 at a time moving around. You can slide for 1 stack

[lunar hollow]

yup

[hollow jolt]

I wish we could more easily see finesse stats

[eager mantle]

Yup. FGC twitter when they see a character get nerfs and they are still top tier

[hollow jolt]

I've been running Mk12 and laspistol with it because I know that one works well with finesse

[fluid knot]

Seriously

Its not even just confined to this discord either, there are L Reddit-tier takes across a bunch of them regarding Vet

[lunar hollow]

the fact that keystone is finesse damage and not weakspot is insane

[hollow jolt]

Ikr

[lunar hollow]

because u can run laspistol or crit IAG

and get so much value

[robust sierra]

Hate to interrupt, but is there a point to running assail anymore?

[lunar hollow]

yus

still solid

just not as spammable

[fluid knot]

Assail is still super fuckin strong, its just not rampantly OP anymore

[hollow jolt]

And you can pick up the +30% weakspot talent if you want big number

[fluid knot]

Or rather, its not a replacement for your other kit anymore

[hollow jolt]

I just wish assail would stop pushing poxbursters into teammates

I feel so bad lol

[fluid knot]

Hell, i think Assail got off light with its changes, i would have made regen 5s were i balancing it

[lunar hollow]

3s is okay but they have to cut the total ammo pool down from 10

[fluid knot]

Aye, that'd go a long way too

but at least between the regen increase an the Handcannon fix its not totally dominating every game any longer

[lunar hollow]

yeah

[eager mantle]

I only started using assail at lvl 30 last week. People really do be thinking assail got its knees blown out over that lmb damage

[fluid knot]

Some are acting like it yeah.. madness i tell you

People have been letting the warp corrupt thier judgement

[hasty pier]

Assail uptime was a large part of the issue imo

[frigid zenith]

All they did with assail was make it so you don't spam in into groups of elites now, you have to... hold lmb first...

[eager mantle]

I saw the writing on the wall. They never wanted a blitz to be a primary. I think the only buff I would want for assail is idk like brittle on aimed hit

[hasty pier]

Large charge number, empowered, and fast regen means it basically was a third weapon

[frigid zenith]

Who needs assail when you can be a space wizard with a gun?

How scary would Gandalf had been if he had a mk5IAG.

[eager mantle]

Assail still does its job. You're gonna like it when a hound wave comes. You're gonna like it being able to fire off all your shards and clear the rest with melee. Assail is still fine. BB imo needs love otherwise smite and assail still power crept it

[frigid zenith]

BB is still best boss damage by a long shot unless you have some meme build for bosses.

[eager mantle]

We are crayon eaters, we are better than BB

[frigid zenith]

PURPLE

[kindred sand]

I saw a psyker with a knife + trauma build, does anyone have a video or site with this build?

[eager mantle]

Assail shards are your emergency rock candy

[frigid zenith]

Who else in here pronounces crayon as "crowns"?

[steady yarrow]

damn you Hadron

[frigid zenith]

The movement from knife would be fun. You're gonna gimp your ability to deal with mutants quickly though.

[uneven compass]

What kinda accent even is that? I say crans

[frigid zenith]

That is... totally useless.

[eager mantle]

Mmmm stamina on my staves. My favorite

[steady yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-gif-20733430

[frigid zenith]

I'll pour one out for you.

[heady garnet]

Haven't played the new patch yet any fun bugs to exploit?

[frigid zenith]

There are no bugs in this game.

Only purple.

[eager mantle]

I heard vets with their tag if spammed can crash games

[uneven compass]

None

[frigid zenith]

Double middle mouse button A LOT.

You'll make all kinds of new friends.

[heady garnet]

What does that do?

Double tag?

[kindred sand]

Yeah, it was realy good for survivalbility. ANd the trauma with blaze was amazing. I will try building my kniwfe like that

[frigid zenith]

It divides by zero and lets you into the multiverse.

[heady garnet]

[frigid zenith]

Double click middle mouse is not the "go here" ping by deafult.

Everyone who uses middle mouse to tag is pinging everywhere now.

[frigid zenith]

Kinda derp to have lacerate and mercy killer.

[heady garnet]

Wtf

[digital narwhal]

and imo, that's good

[kindred sand]

Does Crit chance works with truama R2?

[heady garnet]

Wait why would you double tap it anyways

[digital narwhal]

It requires actual thought of how to loop your weapons with your use of Assail

[heady garnet]

I guess if I want to emphasize there's 2 crushers or something

[frigid zenith]

It's from people spamming tag.

[heady garnet]

So if im not a spam tagger I'm safe?

[frigid zenith]

Probably.

[fluid knot]

Agreed yeah mate

[frigid zenith]

I haven't had my tag button on middle mouse button since the first 10 min of playing this shit.

[bleak tulip]

dont dare trying to make sure you pinged something or you do probing pings a lot then the double tap will fuck with you

[fluid knot]

Its in a place where its a worthwhile choice which can really add to a build, which is how most things should be

[digital narwhal]

Assail should be really strong, since it's intended to basically be secondary weapon for you, but it was basically a rampantly OP resource you could spam

Now you actually have to switch off of it

and that should hopefully stop teaching new players bad habits

[kindred sand]

What u would trade for, thats what god emperor gave me

[heady garnet]

I'm gonna miss surge

[bleak tulip]

would argue no blitz is designed as another main weapon, rather a supporting weapon

same as BB never was meant as a main weapon

and people used to use it that way in beta and early release

...until they played damnation and realized the damage is shit for it

[digital narwhal]

I shouldn't have said main

but rather a secondary

I worded it weirdly

[bleak tulip]

sure

[digital narwhal]

Assail is something to be mixed in and out of your used of gunplay

[bleak tulip]

youre certainly meant to use it frequently

[digital narwhal]

Like how I use it to stun Gunners so I can go in with my Combat Knife

[bleak tulip]

they could lower the ammo of assail by like half and still have it fulfill that purpose

[glossy ember]

i'll be honest, this node alone sounds as bullshit as ogryn's 20% toughness on heavies.

[digital narwhal]

I think Assail is in a good spot now though tbh

[bleak tulip]

cant say havent used it yet with the regen nerf but I seriously doubt it would be different for me honestly

im sure it cuts down on lower difficulty assail spamming

[digital narwhal]

I've definitely felt the change.
It does enforce swapping frequently.

[fluid knot]

Its very strong, but there isnt any real need to take it

[bleak tulip]

and I guess that was the major complaint people had

[heady garnet]

I enjoy it for horde clear during mobs but that's about it

Throw out all my assail then pull out my melee

[frigid zenith]

Depends on the playstyle really, if you're using it on the psyker for movement but not really using it to kill much then it might not matter at all. If you want to just body shot shit then lacerate plus flesh tearer would be funny.

I don't remember what the max bleed stacks from the blade are though.

[bleak tulip]

I mean the reason depends on your main weapon, if you have something to deal with 6 spread out shooters 20 meters away very fast youre good, with void for example I used it to deal with those situations where void isnt really fast enough or the left click isnt quite reliable enough

[digital narwhal]

I like that Assail frees me up to use Columnus IAG and Combat Knife, since I can pull it out to throw a few shards into Bruisers that threaten me before continuing to dump shots into ranged enemies.

[bleak tulip]

now I just run smite tho

[frigid zenith]

If you still wanted to hit stuff in the head I'd take uncanny strike for rending.

[fluid knot]

Thats a Vet skill pal

[kindred sand]

its 16, irc. Each hit gives 4

[uneven compass]

How're y'all using it now? Spam it all to thin out a horde before swapping back to staff/melee?

[digital narwhal]

imo, change both Blessings to Uncanny Strikes and Flesh Tearer

[digital narwhal]

16, yeah

[frigid zenith]

If it was me, I'd want to try flesh tearer.

[digital narwhal]

Uncanny Strike and Flesh Tearer lets me 3 shot Crushers even without the +Carapace Perk

[bleak tulip]

I mean if the vet is like 20 seconds deep into his tunnel vision again and not looking at the thing I am facing then I would like to deal with them instead of waiting for the brainiac to unfuck his attention span

[near wyvern]

Assail is fine, although LMB could generate some more peril. It's the flat +10% removal from warp rider that hurts gun Paykers the most.

[digital narwhal]

LMB generating 12.5% would be nice

8 shards to reach 100 instead of 10

[near wyvern]

Not enough, you often go via one or two -5% nodes so I would just bump it to 13-15%

Maybe 15

So it's easier to keep peril up without drying shards out or having to revert to RMB which has a painful cast time

If you need to do more just quell a bit

As of now, unless you need to spam dodge RMB dodge you do not want to touch that quell button, like ever

[frigid zenith]

Don't tell me how to live my life, sir!

[digital narwhal]

Going past 12.5% could really fuck with Scrier's Psykers who don't get any -Peril nodes though

[bleak tulip]

I still wish assail worked kinda like zealot knives where I can press the button to shoot it and not having to APM king and double switch every few seconds

[digital narwhal]

[near wyvern]

Why would you assail during Scrier's

[digital narwhal]

Oh I don't mean during Scrier's but

[supple skiff]

post scryer clarity?

[eager mantle]

Me when I accidentally throw out assail at 99% in scriers

[digital narwhal]

Scrier's side of the tree doesn't get any -Peril nodes, so I'm just thinking that going to 15% Peril per shard could lead to a lot more explosive Siblings

[supple skiff]

always feel like an absolute buffoon when I peril in scryers

[azure bridge]

... someone should make a psyker build that revovles around exploding themselves to clear hordes

[supple skiff]

happens more often that I care to admit

[azure bridge]

call it the mind bomber

[supple skiff]

• wound curious and patient teammates

[near wyvern]

good, that would teach 'em a lesson

I need my peril for warp rider, it's a big difference to be at 80+ than at 0

[supple skiff]

that scryer crit chance with a warp nexus surge void staff tho is cash money

[near wyvern]

If you are feeling goofy try this with flurry + transfer peril Trauma. Whenever you need to quell, either throw a couple assails or ult. EP assail has potential to quell for 60% when you have staff in hand xD

[glossy ember]

you can still get two but yeah

i see what u mean

[supple skiff]

and the underpinned reason for my aformentioned buffoonery

[azure bridge]

so i feel like I shouldn't probably need to ask this but I will anyway, if you're not using a meta build in higher tier difficulties, like blaze trauma or something similar, are you just wasting your teammates time and making life more miserable for them?

[supple skiff]

name checks out

[near wyvern]

depends on the memerity level of your build

[glossy ember]

assert dominance by running a staff scrier build instead

[digital narwhal]

No.
You can absolutely perform well with offmeta.

[glossy ember]

[keen gyro]

anyone stay play with surge and smite, any thoght on that?

[eager mantle]

So do people use disrupt destiny?

[lethal lagoon]

Surge is bugged, yet again.

[glossy ember]

surge is booty this patch, but once they fix the "random limb hitting" nonsense then surge smite is good lyfe

[lethal lagoon]

EP smite + flaming shriek is kind of wild when the enemies get stacked up on aurics though

[digital narwhal]

I sometimes like using it to hit one shot BPs on Ragers with my Revolver

[azure bridge]

how in gods name would that work, could you quell and keep the buff?

[eager mantle]

As long as your build is performing and not a hindrance like not being able to take care or enemies or yourself, you're fine

[digital narwhal]

You can Quell in Scrier's, yeah

[median siren]

Im currently running full crit with Disrupt Destiny and Scryers, using the Columbus Autogun

Not sure how amazing it is, but its real fun

[west fjord]

Just rolled the left staff, guess I'm going to be a blaze enjoyer. Shame cause I kind of like the rending

[glossy ember]

yeah just quell

[near wyvern]

surge is playable but requires +unarmoured, +flak and warp nexus on your staff and keeping up Perfect Timing and 6 warp charges. You can bring surge but that would be only used against crusher packs and bursters

[lethal lagoon]

I played the new map(At5) for the first time with EP smite + Surge, and even with the bugged surge the build still felt pretty great.

[azure bridge]

i've seen people snapshot build trees to post here, where can I go to set one of those up?

[supple skiff]

you can keep scryer's up fgor a while quelling

[quasi junco]

Hello, what would you change on this

?

[near wyvern]

true chads invest in inner tranquility and battle meditation to keep that scrier down while staving

[supple skiff]

past a certain point your in liability terrirtory with the ramped up passive peril gen

[near wyvern]

unfortunately the gaze don't get any cdr from eating your stacks at the beginning tho

[digital narwhal]

Wish they'd fix that

[eager mantle]

I'm just finding disrupt destiny kinda inconsistent. At least with EP and Warp Charges I don't have to worry about the random gunner sitting in cover behind and entire horde

[keen gyro]

aits thanks for info, but it some how feels weaker that before patch forsure, i use to 2 shot big dude now its like 4

[glossy ember]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-por-que-no-los-dos-yey-gif-15089379

[frigid zenith]

Change barrage to blazing spirit.

[lethal lagoon]

That was a bug lmao

Also, now it can take 8 shots to kill a crusher cause surge is bugged in a different way

[keen gyro]

damn they fixed it 😦

[near wyvern]

DD is best played when you invest a single point in it and use it as increased awarness and a toughness + movement speed buff pick up

[lethal lagoon]

I mean ruining the game for your teammates isn't exactly something to be happy about...

[near wyvern]

the damage buff component is too unreliable and too easily lost to make it worth stacking and hunting for stacks

[supple skiff]

team battle meditation for sure

[frigid zenith]

they didn't just fix it, they also nerfed it. Now surge and smite both target a random body part like limbs that can take reduced damage.

[near wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/disaster-girl-burning-house-cheeky-devil-holy-terror-cheeky-rascal-gif-19105180

[keen gyro]

man all that money plastteel and diamond spend haha

[supple skiff]

idk how I feel about that keystone tree though

[median siren]

You get ranged immunity on a crit and you can have 15% + additional crits from perks

[glossy ember]

something like this

[eager mantle]

I'll give it another try. Was trying to go all in on it

[real wadi]

annbody want help each other with the malleus monstronum pennace ?

[near wyvern]

bonus points for using combat knife as well, just be aware of ledges cause you gonna fly fast and far 😄

[supple skiff]

EP BB gang

[eager mantle]

Yet to get a good knife. Red handle dueling sword is my beloved right now

[quasi junco]

And the crit to maniac?

[sturdy dagger]

i still cant get over ur settings why are u playing this game in movie mode

[frigid zenith]

No, leave the crit

[near wyvern]

that works as well, it sacrifices a tiny bit of mobility for a huge gain in offensive capabilities, not a bad choice

[azure bridge]

How do i get access to the means to create pictures like this

[glossy ember]

not the actual monitor but 21:9 is the superior ratio

[near wyvern]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[near wyvern]

this sibling gets it

[azure bridge]

you're a gem

[spiral storm]

Why do people recommend maniac damage?

isn't most things unyielding, not maniac?

[sturdy dagger]

unyielding is bulwark reaper and bosses

[near wyvern]

monstrosities and enemy ogryns are unyielding (except crusher is carapace)

most enemies are flak

[sturdy dagger]

maniac is: half the ragers, trappers, one of the flamers? muties

[near wyvern]

both flamers

[plucky flax]

Both flamers

[keen gyro]

witch staff do u guys think is best for auric now?

[sturdy dagger]

i thought one was flak

oh well

even better

[plucky flax]

Nein they both maniac.

[near wyvern]

define best

[frigid zenith]

Trauma staff don't give two shits about what it's damage is becasue everything is looking up at you from the ground.

[plucky flax]

Maniac is super good on melee weapon since most maniac take extra melee damage.

[keen gyro]

most damage for armor

[spiral storm]

it says that one rager is flak

and the other is maniac

[near wyvern]

scab rager is flak yes

[spiral storm]

so yeah only half

[near wyvern]

dreg rager is maniac

[broken pollen]

Surge staff users how hard are we malding now

[near wyvern]

the maniac looking guy is a maniac

[frigid zenith]

The best build for AM is the one you play the best.

[near wyvern]

who would have thought

[sturdy dagger]

man i nearly just busted then got 2 the second half of it

[glossy ember]

i need ot ugprade, i'm at 75hz 2560x1080p, been there for like 4 years now

if not more

[spiral storm]

I just don't really get it

[frigid zenith]

There is no defined "best". There's simple too many variables.

[lethal lagoon]

I hate bugs and love EP smite/surge, so I've been malding for 3 patchs now.

[spiral storm]

sure more enemies are maniacs but like

[near wyvern]

100Hz at 3440x1440p

[plucky flax]

No they took away my handcannon assail I need to be carried by zealots now.

[spiral storm]

isn't it more important to deal high damage to the bulwarks and monsters?

[near wyvern]

make sure you have a beefy graphics card cause there is no point in upgrading if your GPU can't push out the frames

[frigid zenith]

Did they fix the handcannon bug?

[broken pollen]

Tfw a bug is the only thing making ur weapon remotely close to viable on auric damnation

[near wyvern]

yes

[sturdy dagger]

as a psyker? we dont really deal boss dmg without guns

[lethal lagoon]

I literally top dps with the current broken surge.

[frigid zenith]

I wonder if they fixed the dum dum stuff too then.

[sturdy dagger]

bros playin in malice with bots

[spiral storm]

It was fixed though

[near wyvern]

surge is still viable, just requires a very careful build, not meta but definitely usable

[broken pollen]

Explain how you control limb rng then

[lethal lagoon]

CURRENT

[near wyvern]

wdym fixed?

[kindred sand]

Hmm... good idea, i will try that too

[azure bridge]

i must be stupid, I cannot for the life of me figure out how to post just the talent tree portion of this build thing

[spiral storm]

I wish psyker would get reliable crit perks for staffs

[sturdy dagger]

screenshot

[lethal lagoon]

Me? One sec.

[frigid zenith]

weapon blessings are not supposed to affect soulblaze are they not?

[near wyvern]

true aim, farm with smite and there is your guaranteed crits

[sturdy dagger]

no

[lethal lagoon]

Okay good, I'm pretty lazy

[near wyvern]

damage ticks always calculate from currently active buffs, so weapon perks and blessings are supposed to affect everything that is going on

hence you can still do 1k+ damage with assails if you just weapon swap before the shards land

[frigid zenith]

Oh, I'm just a derp then.

[frigid zenith]

That's kinda silly though, it should only be affected by what you had when cast. That's still bugish to me.

[broken pollen]

@lethal lagoon i desperately need your build, i built my entire arsenal around smite and surge and i have no plasteel to build up a voidstrike (which i’m convinced is getting nerfed to nonexistence in the future)

[lethal lagoon]

I don't. Doesn't really matter though. Can still spam into shooter hordes. The biggest problem is crusher and bulwark dps atm, which I just kind of ignore. That said I haven't used it much for obvious reasons.

[spiral storm]

People still use surge?

[lethal lagoon]

It's more playstyle then build, but I can link it.

[spiral storm]

Sorry, smite

[sturdy dagger]

idk who posted it but you can abuse this with purge staff to kill like 20 crushers at once, dose em up with soulbaze stacks them swap to uncanny melee and stack it and suddenly the soulblaze stacks do real dmg

[spiral storm]

The naming is weird

[sturdy dagger]

smite is great wdym

insane cc tool

[spiral storm]

The one that deals high single target is surge

[broken pollen]

How do u deal with crushers then, back before the patch they were a three shot with the staff now they range anywhere from 6-12

[sturdy dagger]

"high single target"

[spiral storm]

but the CC one that chains and "surges" to through a group is called smite

[sturdy dagger]

oh i wish man

[near wyvern]

That would require tracking the game state, takes quite a lot of extra computing to keep track of all that. Much simpler way to do it based on currently active buffs. It's a technical implementation choice and actually a well thought out one given how much shit is going on in the game.

[sturdy dagger]

i rate it honestly

even more reason 2 weave ur melee and ranged together

[eager mantle]

5 weakspot into critical talent

[azure bridge]

Will this build work in higher difficulties?

[spiral storm]

Wait, does that work with purgatus staff?

[vestal fulcrum]

The thing is, you don’t have to. The game doesn’t require you to optimise every single action.

[spiral storm]

Yes

[near wyvern]

It's not about the build, it's about the player using the build

[broken pollen]

Im grasping at straws here. I’ll sink in as much plasteel as needed so long as it makes me viable at auric damnation and isn’t based on a bug or getting patched out soon

[sturdy dagger]

...? okay? were talking about how u can use blessings on ur melee on ur ranged though

kinda irrelevant poiint

[spiral storm]

The biggest thing that players fail at is melee

[azure bridge]

while i agree to some extent, a build still needs to be operable otherwise the players skill doesn't keep up

[plucky flax]

No combustion so no you'd literally lose.
Edit: nvm I am

[spiral storm]

won't matter how good your build is, if you can't handle a full horde with just melee you need to practice it

should literally take 0 hits if it's just regular infested

0 health damage at least

[median siren]

Whats the best force sword you think

[spiral storm]

Illis for horde clearing

[broken pollen]

If u ever find this msg pls link

[spiral storm]

Deimos for Single target

[broken pollen]

My literal only other ok staff is purg

[vestal fulcrum]

Ah, sorry, I thought you were engaged in conversation with Pygex re: cycling buffs between weapons. I got lost in the chain, I suppose

[sturdy dagger]

i main purge things so easy 2 farm top dmg with

ur also like comically tanky if u take this

[umbral helm]

generally the only time I get smacked during that type of scenario is when somehow one of the buggers gets tossed behind me and just decides to stealthily wind up a hit and bonk the back of my head, which I miss because of all the other noise of the horde

[plucky flax]

You're pro if you can get top damage with purga.

[sturdy dagger]

just with how fast purge hits

[sturdy dagger]

literally every game in damnation ur auric

[broken pollen]

Maybe it’s some bug that’s being used without us realizing it

[sturdy dagger]

my secret? people seem to just ignore anything that doesnt put them in the killfeed so im left 2 farm groaners

[plucky flax]

When I play purg I have to try hard to keep up with the other guys.

[sturdy dagger]

and yet i still have most elites killed cause perilous into 20 pack of ragers

https://tenor.com/view/chiquichico-gif-26004262

[plucky flax]

When I'm blaze trauma tho it's boom boom.

[sturdy dagger]

yeah yeah ill get back 2 u on that when i get the damm blessing

[broken pollen]

Helly can u post build

[glossy ember]

based

[lethal lagoon]

For bulwarks? Smite and let team get free shots. For crushers... lmao I just spam surge still. It's annoying but it really depends what's going down, you can always fall back to smite. https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a9eb65f-5d1c-4275-9769-afb5dc7c39df/random1 EP smite plus flaming shriek is going to be a huge part. Surge is mostly for running into shooter mobs.

[azure bridge]

any staff suggestions to use with that build i posted then? currently i use voidstaff, but I'm wondering if another staff would work better

[spiral storm]

I can't get the blaze trauma to work

[near wyvern]

Some Assail shenanigans with weapon swapping
https://streamable.com/pda6zo

[plucky flax]

Why not mane?

[spiral storm]

I only have the 3rd level perk on it for starters

[broken pollen]

Tysm

[shell igloo]

I've wiped on 4 consecutive damnation runs since the patch...sheeesh

[spiral storm]

but also

[plucky flax]

It is a very hard staff to craft.

[spiral storm]

getting crits for only 4 burn stacks is kinda

eeeh

[near wyvern]

hits still nicely even without stacking that peril that high as long as you have malefic momentum going on
https://streamable.com/gkfxhj

and without critting

[lethal lagoon]

With the build first try on new map, I haven't played it much since then because the surge limb bug drives me fucking crazy.

[plucky flax]

It's actually 3 but you combine with all the soulblaze talents it becomes monstrous.

[umbral helm]

honestly, I enjoy using trauma specifically because the loop of using the secondary tends to line up with the tempo of the darksynth I listen to sometimes while playing and it gives me serotonin

[spiral storm]

I've just found more use in the regular trauma build

[broken pollen]

Inb4 they claim it’s intended behavior

[spiral storm]

Shockwave etc

[lethal lagoon]

I might actually quit the game if they claimed that lmao

[broken pollen]

Same

[sturdy dagger]

i would not recommend trying any surge build right now regardless of what numbers broodie is posting

its objectively bad

[sturdy dagger]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a9eb838-9151-4806-8993-e655976e56b6/kerblamo?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

this aint even finished ngl

but it works for me so

[plucky flax]

Fair enough if that works for you.

[broken pollen]

Godsend tysm

[lethal lagoon]

I kiind of agree, but he asked.

I'm just saying surge is viable without last patch bug

[sturdy dagger]

like bro i wanna use surge so badly

[eager mantle]

Tbh the surge staff should've kept the smite explosion effect. It feels so limp now

[sturdy dagger]

i used it before bug aswell

but current surge?

imma kms

[lethal lagoon]

It's rough, I was so exicted to finally play bug free ep smite/surge

[static needle]

What builds are best using warp nexus on voidstrike?

[lethal lagoon]

Fatshark did it again though

[sturdy dagger]

i cant look at it the same after it failed to kill a dreg shooter on damnation due 2 bug

[broken pollen]

So i build soulblaze then uncanny deimos the crushers?

[spiral storm]

Warp flurry I guess

oh wait build

just do a basic assail, dome shield, siphon build

[lethal lagoon]

That's how I noticed the bug, I was geniunely like "wtf did they give them more hp?"

[spiral storm]

The surge did feel off to me ingame

I have the healthbar mod on

and uuuh

[sturdy dagger]

yeah.

[static needle]

no sry meant to say blessing

[hot zephyr]

This will sound like a super-dumb question, but I'll ask anyways. What's the primary purpose of Assail? I understand BB/BR is great for exploding stuff like crushers/elite/etc, and that Smite is horde-clearance with utility. So does that mean Assail is anti-special? Like gunners, flamers, bombers, etc?

[spiral storm]

I failed to kill a regular dreg shooter with a full charge

[sturdy dagger]

pretty much, but ofc only when risk free otherwise just BB

[spiral storm]

Smite isn't horde clear

[broken pollen]

[static needle]

but like what are the good blessing combos for voidstrike?

[spiral storm]

Smite is basically pure utility at high levels

[bright ether]

same; pre patch was able to melt a pack of crushers without maxing peril; now i need to vent after reaching a third of it's health damaged

[spiral storm]

Assail is the horde clear and anti special/elite

[bright ether]

feels very weak, used to watch healthbars chunk and get the satisfying kill sound, now it's just hitting with wet noodles

[eager mantle]

You throw shards and kills or stagger randoms in a room. You fire and forget and free you to use your other weapons. It clears trash, can clean up low health elites and specials. Can auto aim on elites in the back like snipers, bombers or trappers, auto targets and clears pox hound packs

[sturdy dagger]

so 3 full charges of the staff and the shriek and its ticking for 25. Do the same but right after applying stacks swap 2 melee and light spam the head and u get this in the 2nd screenshot

[broken pollen]

Theoretically speaking, if they fix the bug with the limb targeting, then you should be able to still do that, but at around a two thirds to half the speed

[hot zephyr]

Can you elabourate on the utility it provides? I haven't played in a while and back when I did we only had BB

[spiral storm]

Smite is old surge staff

[sturdy dagger]

you charge it up and hold ur mouse buttons

[spiral storm]

you just stun a horde

[sturdy dagger]

everything is stunned

EVERYTHING

minus bosses

[static needle]

What are the good blessing combos for voidstrike?

[hot zephyr]

So it's basically just a pocket-surge staff

[sturdy dagger]

x10

[bright ether]

that's okay with me; I was using Warp Charge build for the penance and still felt like i was actually doing something. This limb targeting has made that severely different lol

[azure bridge]

smite's downside is it deals very poor damage

but it always deals some damage, and cc's LOTS of enemies

basically you hold everything still, so your teamates get free kills

[spiral storm]

Personally I'm not a fan of smite

I think it's easier to just use trauma or purg to kill the horde

[azure bridge]

maulers? ragers? mutants? smite em all and watch em stand still while your teammates take their chainswords to their skulls

[bright ether]

that was the surge staff as well except it actually did enough output to get kills

[frail sand]

unfortunately it relies on teammates killing things

[plucky flax]

Does the +1 chain on smite work for surge still?

[spiral storm]

No

[broken pollen]

Awesome

[plucky flax]

[azure bridge]

I've found that randos always kill my smited targets

[eager mantle]

You're gonna love that smite on the Scab only, mostly melee, no ammo pickup modified runs. Every few rooms having 12+ crushers and maulers

[hot zephyr]

Ok, so then the way I should think about it is:
BB -> Kills Crushers/Elites
Assail -> Trash/Special Clear
Smite -> Crowd Control

[spiral storm]

Assail also clears most elites

[broken pollen]

Yeah, that’s the only thing really gimping the build now

[spiral storm]

Anything that isn't a mauler or tankier still gets mulched by assail

[queen fog]

No armor, no problem

[azure bridge]

its really really great when crushers maulers and all sorts of other heinous things show up and the ogryn notices they can't move or retaliate

[spiral storm]

so basically it still kills all ragers and gunners

[broken pollen]

I sincerely hope they release a hot fix soon

[eager mantle]

I love it when I smite an entire horde when a teammate is down and no one even attempts to pick them up

[azure bridge]

that is beautiful

[sturdy dagger]

no? it takes 4 without crit to kill even a gunner lmfao

[hot zephyr]

Ok, so it would be beneficial to think about have something to pair with Assail that kills armoured enemies, and Smite conversely is a CC so you can focus your weaponry on damage dealing?

[bright ether]

i'd say it has way better crowd control than cc, but less damage output.

[eager mantle]

I'm not used to seeing that much health and toughness on a psyker anymore

[static needle]

This is good right?

[sturdy dagger]

he got the funny

surge

blessing

[eager mantle]

Fuck you. Yes it is

[static needle]

😄

[spiral storm]

It takes more shots but it still kills pretty fast since you can spam it

[static needle]

is quell speed dump stat then?

[azure bridge]

yeah, what i'm doing currently and i don't know if its optimal but I am using voidstaff for my up front damage and smite for clearing hordes

[sturdy dagger]

idk where ur getting this from but heres 5 shards worth of dmg

[orchid shadow]

Don't hold your breath. =/ They didn't hotfix Surge when it was doing double damage with EP. Waited 3 weeks for the anniversary update to fix it, then they practically halved it's based damage instead. Now we'll have to wait another 3 weeks until the Part 2 update.

[sturdy dagger]

you cannot spam it anymore as they increased the cooldown of it, maybe with EP but its still cope imo

7 shards

[azure bridge]

is it worth taking EP for smite? I've been using warp charges

[static needle]

is quell speed dump stat on voidstrike?

[spiral storm]

Hold on

Lemme post my screenshot

[eager mantle]

Quell speed is nice but that quell speed talent is there.

[spiral storm]

Because I'm getting WILDLY different results

[sturdy dagger]

warp charges are better rn

[sturdy dagger]

damnation?

[spiral storm]

Yes

[static needle]

dont really need it, can just use transfer peril 😄

[hot zephyr]

Ok, thanks. Trying to understand how all the pieces of our class work again after reading the Athenem a few times so I can figure out what I can run to get playing again

[spiral storm]

Lemme double check

[sturdy dagger]

no u wont

[spiral storm]

I'll exit and renter psykanium

[static needle]

?

[sturdy dagger]

not on a voidstrike with surge you WILL run nexus or i will stop being family friendly

[plucky flax]

But also experiment stuff for yourself. Never take a guide as gospel.

[orchid shadow]

I find EP still better with Smite, especially if you run it with Shriek and CreepingFlame and Bio Lodstone. You can constantly refill your EP stacks for the +125% Surge.

[hot zephyr]

Oh always. That's why I want to understand each puzzle piece.

[sturdy dagger]

this guys using smite forhorde clear point and laugh

[spiral storm]

Problem is that 125 surge damage isn't that worthwhile

[plucky flax]

You can safely listen to my recommendation though I am like top 1%.

[sturdy dagger]

warp charges allows for longer smites

[azure bridge]

I like the concept but I don't think i can give up bubble barrier

[sturdy dagger]

cc tool

longer

better

[static needle]

this seems to be a veeeery hot topic in this channel. There's people such as yourself who despise it, and there's people who love it

[sturdy dagger]

what?

who hates warp nexus its our best blessing

[bright ether]

warp nexus is god tier

[static needle]

no but heres the thing, if u run transfer peril and true aim you dont need crit chance

[plucky flax]

I play voidstrike with surge flurry and tru aim.

[static needle]

u get garantueed crit

[glossy ember]

789k with shitsurge good lawd

[static needle]

i would change flurry

[sturdy dagger]

right.... or i can make it crit with any build...

[plucky flax]

Nein.

[spiral storm]

Alright I double checked I was on damnation

[sturdy dagger]

not burning points for gimick gaming

[digital narwhal]

First time breaking 1 million damage.

[static needle]

to nexus

[digital narwhal]

[plucky flax]

[sturdy dagger]

gunker?

[digital narwhal]

Ye

[frail sand]

how???

does ur team not move?

[sturdy dagger]

i mean

400k and 500k on his teammates

i think that was just a mental match

[digital narwhal]

My teammates still knew what tf they were doing

I just kinda

[spiral storm]

This is my results for 5 shots

[digital narwhal]

popped off

[spiral storm]

with assail

[sturdy dagger]

ur point? thats exactly what i said

[glossy ember]

how long was this match

[sturdy dagger]

5 shards for one gunner is comical

[spiral storm]

is it?

[sturdy dagger]

?

[eager mantle]

The fuck missions are you doing?

[orchid shadow]

It absolutely is, the bigger the horde, the more value you get out of it, way more than what you get out of Warp Charges. You'll hold them longer with Warp Charges, but you'll actually kill enough with EP to A) trigger Battle Meditation for decent uptime, and B) double your damage with it to get the kills needed for more EP charges.

[heady garnet]

[spiral storm]

considering you can spam it it and will likely hit multiple dudes

[bright ether]

based on scrip carry time over 24 min

[digital narwhal]

34 minutes

[plucky flax]

The overwolf plug in always has lower damage than the og scoreboard mod I find. I'm sad I never get high damage anymore.

[static needle]

@frigid zenith fight him 🔪

[glossy ember]

goddamn

how the heck you guys manage to have total party number this high

[broken pollen]

Yeah i’m in this weird state of actively despising fatshark and being alright with them. I mean the hope’s still there but the expectation isn’t

[digital narwhal]

Archivum Sycorax

:^)

[eager mantle]

That's the library one yea?

[glossy ember]

usually it's like averaging 300k for my party members and i'm at 400~k, and it's not like we're skipping fights

[digital narwhal]

Ye

[bleak tulip]

new director pops off faster

[sturdy dagger]

me when i lie

my bros putting so much effort into making smite horde clear why dont u just swing purge staff around once or fire a few voidstrike bolts

instead of killing it after 5 minutes

[eager mantle]

Think the highest total damage I've had has been in the 800k range

[static needle]

@sturdy dagger

[digital narwhal]

But yeah

Columnus good

I recommend it

[glossy ember]

my highest was 660k

[sturdy dagger]

?

[static needle]

@sturdy dagger

[sturdy dagger]

if u wanna die with crit scriars voidstrike be my guest

[plucky flax]

Based Christopher columbus

[frail sand]

columbus based

[eager mantle]

I'll try getting a columnus at some point

[bleak tulip]

I mean youre not gonna die, youre just gonna be worse

[plucky flax]

Rip autopistol, embrace columbus.

[frail sand]

build tax, pls share build im curious what ur setup is

[rigid rune]

was assasils tracking nerfed? I'm having trouble using it with purg staff

[spiral storm]

No, just the damage and cooldown

It's still very good

[rigid rune]

I'm struggling to kill single trappers/gunners with it from 20m

[spiral storm]

20m is kinda far

[bleak tulip]

range literally doesnt matter for assail

[spiral storm]

If they're at 20m then probably aim it

[broken pollen]

The day i am forced to play gunpsyker to be viable on auric damnation is the day I rip out my ovaries

[spiral storm]

use the right click

[sturdy dagger]

the guy kinda gives new player or new 2 psyker vibes so running scriars is 100% a blow myself the fuck up scenario

[orchid shadow]

Because I've hated the Purg staff since day1. =/ Voidstrike is boring and I suck at aiming. Trauma I just suck at it. 😛 And obvious hyperbole is hyperbole, it doesn't take 5 minutes. 4.. tops. =/

[sturdy dagger]

bro

play another class

u just knocked out 3 of the main weapons for psyker

[untold widget]

He sucks at aiming though

[sturdy dagger]

SHIT TRUE

ogryn

kickback

[untold widget]

psyker is the least aiming class

[sturdy dagger]

enjoy

[frail sand]

kickback kinda needs aim too

[plucky flax]

Trauma says hello.

[sturdy dagger]

if all else fails pocket nuke

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-mushroom-cloud-atomic-bomb-bomb-boom-gif-4464831

[plucky flax]

Enjoy da flick with trauma.

[sturdy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-naruhodo-ryuuichi-lie-jabonis-gif-26315575

[broken pollen]

I wish all voidstrike players a massive future condolence

[untold widget]

if he can't spam assail to breeze through auric maelstrom, then what's even the point?

[azure bridge]

what stat spread am I supposed to be looking for on a blaze trauma staff?

[glossy ember]

it's a very big kinda

[frail sand]

huge, even

[glossy ember]

like, point the big stick in their general direction

[bleak tulip]

I think kickback does have more pellets in the center but it also has so much min damage that it often doesnt matter

[slow raven]

assail is only good for add clear and weaker elites/specials in AM

[supple skiff]

cant aim, too busy trying to avoid demonic possesion

[spiral storm]

Damage is your dump stat

[plucky flax]

80 on damage, charge rate, and blast radius. Warp resistance 60 something and higher quell speed if possible.

[eager mantle]

Give the psyker the kickback. They can handle it

[sturdy dagger]

WHAT IS BRO COOKING

[broken pollen]

Don’t u want a daemon inside u

[slow raven]

you can do big damage with crits and uncanny strike abuse but it's not really the intended experience

[frail sand]

honestly i had better luck with BB than assail

[spiral storm]

For Fire trauma

[bleak tulip]

its really not

[sturdy dagger]

the best fire trauma user around just said 80, 80 seems common sense for any real weapon 2 me