psyker-class

[plucky flax]

That fov man.

[azure bridge]

you mentioned stacks, does the damage buff stack per stack of buff?

sweet ty

[vagrant frigate]

120

[plucky flax]

Hurts me eyes.

[rare storm]

d4 is really the best sword to run rn lmao

[coarse bane]

Empowered Psionics stacks don't increase the damage, just allow you the benefit for more than one use of our blitz.

[azure bridge]

Gotcha, so repeated casting

[coarse bane]

That's why Assail is kinda meh for Empowered.

Repeated casts of super smite yes.

[lapis linden]

Empowered psionic really pairs well with brainburst (IMO) rather than the warp charge one

[limber tartan]

Assail needs some work

[coarse bane]

I want to like brain burst more, but it's just so slow for the damage it does.

[lapis linden]

Free brainbursts with an extra 50% damage and faster cating yes please

[limber tartan]

Yea bb with psionics is great

[rare storm]

Yes Assail needs another nerf

[limber tartan]

Without ? nah im good

[rare storm]

[glossy ember]

still on the fence on where to put those two points

[lapis linden]

Brainburst is quite fast with Empoered psionics

[limber tartan]

Usually if you don't know what to do with points just go with toughness

[coarse bane]

Get the two on the right side of shield.

[limber tartan]

at least on psyker

[fading iris]

getting toughness when getting peril

[limber tartan]

There is one node on top above bb with +15

[fading iris]

based vanilla shield build

[coarse bane]

Meh, it should be baseline that fast without Empowered in my opinion.

[glossy ember]

0 shield node build

nah i wouldn't dare

[rare storm]

Assail + EP w/ Psychic Leeching is probably the strongest thing that psyker has for team defensiveness

[azure bridge]

welp looks like I have some experimenting to do, tyvm

[vagrant frigate]

u dont need defense

if i have offense

[rare storm]

Your team won't die as long as your assail is killing elites

[limber tartan]

Yea

[rare storm]

TRUE

[vagrant frigate]

@plucky flax

[limber tartan]

Why shield or stun when you can kill

[glossy ember]

[fading iris]

You don't need defense when everybody is dead (including your team)

[coarse bane]

Hmm, if you want good defense dome and smite holds so much more on demand power.

[rare storm]

But with Assail+EP, you're killing AND regening your entire team

[plucky flax]

I am not a fish.

[rare storm]

Yes sure, but ep + assail is not "meh" it's busted

[vagrant frigate]

i used to play 140 fov

im down to 120

140 was a lot

[rare storm]

Even more toughness regen and defense than dome honestly

[vernal crypt]

what are you running on your saber

[plucky flax]

I play 90 horizontal.

[rare storm]

Once the shield goes down, you're stuck till you bring it up again, but as long as you have ep stacks, every assail use gives 15% toughness to the entire team

[glossy ember]

Gonna try out PC + 1 point in dome, see what it's like

[plucky flax]

Which is 75 I think.

[vagrant frigate]

riposte
uncanny
25 cara
25 mani

[coarse bane]

Not denying that it's strong, but it doesn't have the recovery power of smite + dome. Unless you have your frontline being dumb and constantly sit at 50% toughness.

[vernal crypt]

[rare storm]

That's 70% of pubs tho

Randos are a different breed in games

[plucky flax]

Make it more busted with handcannon revolver.

[coarse bane]

lmao, not wrong.

[rare storm]

That's true I didn't even include this LOL

[glossy ember]

testing brb

[rare storm]

fml I need more than hand cannon 1

HADRON MELK WHY

I want to abuse handcannon assail

[plucky flax]

Ez handcannon abuser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT5qs9MK3dA

[rare storm]

I never thought I'd see the day you would drop your fov

[white hemlock]

Is this usable? idk what to do with it lol

[harsh urchin]

ye it's fine

swap channeling -> flurry and crit damage -> flak and you're good to go

[hot zephyr]

Thanks, I'll try this out. I'm curious if this would work well with a Accatran VId too since it's kind of a horde-control weapon as well.

[white hemlock]

aight cool, thanks

[digital narwhal]

Should work just fine

but

don't use Recon Lasguns on hordes

use them against Elites, Specialists n' shooters

[fading iris]

we need new force staffs

[hot zephyr]

Interesting... I have a +25%/+25% infested/unarmoured accatran VId, guess that will need a tune up to work better with this build... But it does have Headhunter on it!

[mental grail]

What is this outfit called?

I want it back in the store

[fresh reef]

Anybody else think Low Int (without additional modifiers) missions should just be removed outright?

[digital narwhal]

Recon Lasguns are better with Flak + Maniac

[plucky flax]

Nooo my plasteels farm.

[limber tartan]

Honestly i think that going with a recon on psyker is like asking any vets on your team to leave

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, my equipment is massively out of date. I last played around Patch #2

[limber tartan]

It eats up soo much ammo

[hot zephyr]

They do eat ammo, but that's part of it. A vet has to use ammo to do anything useful, where as a gunker can use other resources to conserve ammo when it's not necessary to maximize dps

[mental grail]

Gun psyker builds just make my skin itch

requiring ammo is so weird

you also take ammo real estate from the other classes

I saw a veteran and a zealot dogpiling a psyker for using a gun

[vagrant frigate]

HUSH

[limber tartan]

if they want to be an ass about it then there is nothing stopping htem

[fierce crest]

thats their way of telling you to take all the ammo

zealot is a melee class and vet regens ammo

[vagrant frigate]

i take so much fkin ammo lol

[limber tartan]

Gun psyker is pretty good because of how many things you can do with it

[vagrant frigate]

but i kill everything

[fierce crest]

they dont need it

[vagrant frigate]

with melee anyways

if im dropping 100+ special 100+ elite 600k dmg games every game

they can sugma

if im taking all the ammo

[digital narwhal]

That's why we have Assail

[mental grail]

^

[limber tartan]

I prefer a gun

[digital narwhal]

Ammo issues uses aren't as much of a true issue on Psyker due to Assail

Compare that to Zealot

Vet has Ammo Aura, Psyker has Assail

Zealot has ammo intensive weapons? Well-

they don't have much an answer beyond "Just go melee"

[mental grail]

Zealot is out of luck

they need ammo more than a psyker needs a gun

[digital narwhal]

An Ogryn is just a baller who can run melee an entire mission anyway

[mental grail]

team comp wise

Ogryn with the dual-barrel stubber does make me feel safe though

[limber tartan]

Psyker is a lot more useful if you just take away a gun from him vs when you take away a gun from a vet or a zealot

[fading iris]

When Psyker is getting a check notes power shield to use with the power swords?!

[limber tartan]

However anyone can hog ammo its not just a psyker issue

[mental grail]

isn't that a perk?

[mental grail]

It's worse because psykers have several options to just not use ammo at all

and avoid contributing to the problem at all

[spice veldt]

if you're comparing between psykers sure

[limber tartan]

I don't have that issue because i know i utilise my ammo well

[fading iris]

I'm talking about the physical shield

[mental grail]

oh, well then gl

[spice veldt]

but when comparing to zealot and ogryn is basically the same

[limber tartan]

I don't need gl i am already doing a lot of work on auric damnation with a gun psyker

Its just about how you utilise your ammo

[spice veldt]

I really do just see ammo issues as "melee more"

because I have never ran into issues with my ammo unless I was deliberately holding m1

[mental grail]

auric damnation with gun psyker is the definition of gl

[limber tartan]

I need more luck with team mates

[spice veldt]

good luck?

[glossy ember]

please tell me this rating is a real 3 stam curio

[spice veldt]

just be comfortable with your kit, have some experience, and it's all the same

[mental grail]

teammates

[spice veldt]

teammates are whatevs

I don't trust them

[limber tartan]

I have my own playstyle that i have developed around the gun psyker build which works for me very well

[near wyvern]

If people are interested in Gunker (Psylot) gameplay, I released a live commented full Auric Damnation (Hi-Int STG) without ammo vet in team

https://youtu.be/WSoZl63Gxi4?si=80t9-S_NJRPy5Nqh

[fading iris]

no, that is warp tricks getting to your mind

[spice veldt]

you can solo queue and do fine

[mental grail]

you can do all of that, if you get teammates that don't ping, don't check corners etc, go chasing scripts without telling anyone it can ruin your whole run

[drowsy slate]

What are best surge staff perks?

[spice veldt]

it's not like pre-patch 13 where the variance in the power of builds was much more

[glossy ember]

you're joking but my 3 stamina curio at 75 rating is NOT giving me 3 stamina in actual missions

[fading iris]

I un warp flurry and warp nexus because I'm a psycho

[drowsy slate]

Perks not blessings 😘

[fading iris]

What the

[umbral helm]

I feel like "but bad teammates though" could be used to discredit literally any build and isn't really a metric to base your builds off of

[near wyvern]

Yes, the total rating is mostly affected by the perks

[harsh urchin]

tbh I dont really see ammo issues as a class/weapon issue, it's more a player issue lol

[mental grail]

CONFIRMED warp madness, you hate to see it

[fading iris]

oh shoot, sorry

[harsh urchin]

i've seen people playing highly ammo consuming weapons very efficiently

[spice veldt]

p much

[glossy ember]

this gives me 3 stamina in psykhenarium, 2 stamina in actual missions

[harsh urchin]

and i've seen people blasting away with a gun at poxwalkers

[near wyvern]

Is that bug back again???

[harsh urchin]

and then eating all the ammo

[drowsy slate]

No problem blessings are warp nexus and flurry for me too 😂

[limber tartan]

Anyone can have bad teammates, just play more games and if you're doing good and your build is good then you will go positive

[fading iris]

take 2 I ran ranged critical chance and weak spot damage because I'm a psycho!

[mental grail]

It's better to have a build that can carry a weak team rather than one that requires support when playing pubs

[spice veldt]

I run out of ammo on the Columnus but I'm also holding down m1 cuz it's fun and I also just have other weapons to use when I'm low

[near wyvern]

Weakspot damage??? On Surge staff??? Why???

[limber tartan]

Not sure if stafs can hit weakspots

Except of the default ball attack

[mental grail]

They can

[spice veldt]

are you implying that you need support as a gunker

[mental grail]

no, just in general

[spice veldt]

oh ok

[near wyvern]

Gunker is the support

[umbral helm]

I mean, sure. but that's not the point, the point is if the problem is that the team sucks, that's not the build's fault. that's... the team's fault

[spice veldt]

well that's just about playing the meta which is a whole different thing that I'm not getting into

[fading iris]

Because I had to change other stuff because I got good modifiers, was a executive decision that I'll have to live until a get a better staff, until then everytime I hit something with LMB I think "it is helping "

[near wyvern]

LMAO 😂

[glossy ember]

75 rating 3stam in psykhenarium vs in mission.

[limber tartan]

What mission difficulty is that

[glossy ember]

gonna test out this 78 rating stamina curio

[near wyvern]

Shit here we go again.

[glossy ember]

auric damnation

[limber tartan]

Meaby the -1 wound also applies to stamina

[glossy ember]

nah cuz that psykhenarium is also damnation

lemme test out new curio i got

[mental grail]

I mean... you are part of the team, that is your fault as well. If the build isn't capable of carrying in a pinch its a fragile build, no?

[near wyvern]

Stamina should be consistent in all diffs if I recall

[mental grail]

Holy warp charges lmao

[limber tartan]

They're having a blast

[modern bronze]

Kronk and Kronko

[limber tartan]

And Torm

[mental grail]

ogryns are the best

[plucky flax]

Give me back 100% power pinning fire and instant reload bolter.

[fading iris]

a plot is happening

[umbral helm]

yeah, that's usually a player skill issue, which happens. sometimes the build is fine and the person using it isn't. if the team comp isn't there it isn't there

[plucky flax]

Oh and 75% power power sword.

[fading iris]

a lot of power

[spice veldt]

gib

[plucky flax]

[spice veldt]

I really don't think that you can go wrong with going for a bunch of builds besides some select weapons and if you are intentionally avoiding the good options in your tree

sure some builds are weaker than others but not by that much

[glossy ember]

78 rating stamina curio:

[limber tartan]

Damn

[spice veldt]

scammed

[limber tartan]

Hadron ripped you off

[glossy ember]

yeah

[umbral helm]

while I won't deny the efficiency of the gospel people follow that is whatever the meta is that week, I've always been of the mind in any game with buildmaking that it's the man that makes the clothes, not the other way around

[glossy ember]

my 75 rating stam curio has a 5% health native too

actual bullshit lmao

[fresh reef]

Do you guys think the game should be as easy as it is for a hypothetical skill-ceiling-reaching player?

[fading iris]

now test to put the older back again

[glossy ember]

wym

want me to switch to 75?

[fading iris]

I say that because sometimes my surge staff is wonky on damage and charge speed, I unequip, equip again and boom is back to powa

[glossy ember]

don't think so

it's always been like this for this stam curio

[mental grail]

It's the other way around for me, the build does half the work. Though I guess as a surge staff/assail psyker that is a given.

[fading iris]

Hadron scammed you again

[glossy ember]

[limber tartan]

How does it work with the stamina perks on weapons though

[spice veldt]

yeah people understate the impact of having a good build

[fading iris]

So close to perfection

[spice veldt]

but it's also overstated, assuming you're only comparing between the remotely balanced builds

if you bring something like gunlugger ogryn into the discussion, then you best believe that the build really does make a difference

but for the majority of weapons it's like eh yeah

[umbral helm]

a good build helps, a good build doesn't make you good. just as much as a less effective build doesn't make you bad, if you have the skill to back up using it.

[fading depot]

Just had an Ogryn quit out of a mission because he saw me with smite and empowered psi and called me a bug abuser

Dumbass didn't get the memo that shit was fixed like two weeks ago

[long wharf]

what a child

he did you a favor by leaving, now you don't have to carry his ass

[fresh reef]

Tbf, you could've been running Surge staff

[fading depot]

What's wrong with surge staff?

[fresh reef]

Still a silly reason to leave

[long wharf]

absolutely nothing

until Fatshark fixes the Surge+EP interaction and the staff becomes underpowered again

[flat magnet]

EP apparently buffs the surge staffs damage a bit if I recall?

[fresh reef]

It inherits the 125% damage buff from EP at no cost to stacks

[fading iris]

when the old bug was fixed, the keystone got a new bug that the EP counts for the surge staff and you don't lose stacks

[fading depot]

Interesting

[long wharf]

correction - EP always affected the surge staff secondary

[fresh reef]

Surge always inherited Smite buffs, it was just really hard to notice lol

[fading depot]

So THATS why the surge staff actually seems good

[long wharf]

this was known when patch 13 dropped and we quickly discovered that the surge staff secondary benefited from smite upgrade nodes

typical Fatshark not understanding their own ccode

[mental grail]

A good enough build will carry you through missions even though you're playing poorly

[hearty oak]

to some degree it makes sense the staff gets a damage boost from empowered psyonics cause you're literally casting smite onto your staff and shooting it

[fading depot]

Still annoying, I didn't even know that was an issue and bro quit out on us

[fading iris]

but that is a bug or a feature? the not losing stack is at least and looks new by the reports

[long wharf]

buffed EP for smite without addressing the effect it'd have on the surge staff

[flat magnet]

Yea it gets a bit annoying

[long wharf]

why are people acting like the game is ruined?

[mental grail]

Until you get to high diff/auric, assail will carry you through an entire mission with next to no game knowledge

adding in the smite/surge 125% damage bug, and even auric damnation is a breeze

[hearty oak]

I just find it a challenge to try and outperform those types of players. Show them that the staff bug won't make you a better player

[long wharf]

a good player with assail can carry a team pretty well (aside from boss kill)

[fading iris]

I run Surge without the bug and I`m fine don't know if ppl are screaming because of it thinking that I am because my region is muteland, nobody talks, half ot it doesn't ping monsters

[long wharf]

a good player makes all the difference

[fading depot]

I mostly just spam smite

[flat magnet]

Smite is also pretty fucking good if your teammates monitors are on

[fading depot]

Its not unlimited but you can still use it a lot

CC everything

[long wharf]

ehh, smite isn't all that good

at least, I don't care for it

and I loved pre-13 surge staff

[fresh reef]

I still think we should see some things toned down

For example, nobody should be able to tank a sniper shot with only toughness

[flat magnet]

Warp charges, the yell and other peril reduction can keep smite going for a LONG time if need be

But I like using the dome because of the gunners x3

[hearty oak]

I just don't use abilities. The "I want to be a veteran but weird" where I don't use abilities aside from scrier and mind flayer while using guns

[fading depot]

I like smite because the one thing I see really get people are those swarms of like 10 maulers or ragers

[fading iris]

Just think about Gork and Mork while screaming "I CAN TANK THIS" and you will be fine

[long wharf]

ew

abilities are the reason to play psyker

[umbral helm]

that isn't the point I'm making, but you're still insisting on it so I'll just point out I agree

[flat magnet]

[fresh reef]

Yknow that section in Metalfab where you can continue straight or go across the small bridge in the middle to start at the other side of the following room? The section immediately following the first medicae?

[hearty oak]

https://tenor.com/view/bruce-wizard-delete-this-gun-gif-14009553

[fresh reef]

Had a team split into pairs at that section. We both got swarmed with maulers and ragers, the only difference was that my zealot had Smite backing her up

[fading depot]

Elites are real tough until they just get zapped in place

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/guns-akimbo-daniel-radcliffe-harry-potter-daniel-harry-gif-21335247

[flat magnet]

Trauma staff is also pretty fuckin good

A few blasts and there's no way your teammate is dtingt

Dying

[long wharf]

I'd use trauma more if the aiming wasn't such a pain

[fresh reef]

Genuinely meta but it's hard to use to make up for it

[digital narwhal]

[long wharf]

it's a gun, so, no.

[flat magnet]

I've been having fun with it,

And combining it with smite has made me very used to controlling what the enemies are doing

[flat magnet]

Oooohhh

[visual adder]

Gunkers

[fresh reef]

Vacuum capsule carrier + Trauma at the feet

Peak objective speed

[digital narwhal]

Hadron'd

[umbral helm]

a rare occurrence, too. meta usually takes path of least resistance

[long wharf]

you should have stopped when it rolled sprint efficiency

[digital narwhal]

I was huffing Hopium

[flat magnet]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[long wharf]

yep

[digital narwhal]

I hoped I could get Deadly Accurate

but

alas

[fresh reef]

read as: path of least brain commitment

[flat magnet]

I do wonder

Stripped down
How decent is it?
Cause I don't like using deflector,
And stripped down has saved me a couple times x3

[flat magnet]

True

[fresh reef]

Very good

Dubiously though, on a Psyker

You already have so many tools to negate shooters

Namely Dome, but Deflector as well

[fading depot]

What is Dome

?

[fading iris]

I need more plasteel

[fading depot]

I'm a zelly main

[long wharf]

and assail

[fresh reef]

Not to mention your infinite ammo, spammable suppression generator

[flat magnet]

True buuut don't have em all the time

I use it on a build with smite and Shriek (can't recall it's name)

So I can't deal with swarms of shooters without getting closer

[fresh reef]

The best negation is murder

[flat magnet]

Dome shield

[long wharf]

it usually is

[fading depot]

o

I like shield when I use assail but I use shove so I can smite longer

[long wharf]

there's a reason why the saying "The best defense is a good offense" exists and persists

just like the best CC is killing quickly

[flat magnet]

I've noticed that if I need to use deflector to get by shooters, I'm dead anyways due to peril generation

(Totally not because mommy hadron fucked up my Illisi no not at all)

[fading depot]

Hadron is the new Ranald

[fresh reef]

Are you running extra stamina?

[long wharf]

peril blocking greatly benefits from a +3 stamina curio

[umbral helm]

when they make aurics give extra materials or something instead of extra XP for some reason the plasteel debt might lessen for a time

[flat magnet]

I use 2 health curios, and a +3 Stam

[long wharf]

same

[flat magnet]

It's just the sheer amount overloads the peril before I get close enough x3

[fresh reef]

Toughness gang wya

[fading depot]

Do Aurics give extra XP? I thought it was just the special conditions

[fresh reef]

Technically yes

[long wharf]

dead because they have less health

[flat magnet]

Nowhere.

[fading depot]

You can get those special conditions in standard missions too it's just confirmed in aurics so you dont have to wait for one to pop up

Other than that afaik there's no difference

[fresh reef]

Alive because more resistance to shooters

[long wharf]

dead because shooters do more toughness damage than health damage

[amber nest]

Shooters aren't a threat when I place my safe space though

[fresh reef]

OH GREAT HEAVENS WHAT IS THAT THING

🔥

[flat magnet]

Oh yea,

Is it normal to run as few toughness talents but go in on Regen?

Cause I normally have like only 90, but use smite alot to Regen it x3

[long wharf]

dead because fire strips all toughness regardless of how much you have

[umbral helm]

yeah, but a fat lot of good the extra XP does you, seeing as you're only able to do them at 30, when you can't level up anymore

[spice veldt]

how often are you stepping into fire

[flat magnet]

Only get the XP if you have a friend queue it up for you

[spice veldt]

like you said, the best defense is a good offense

[amber nest]

afaik a low level can join if a level 30 queues them up

[fresh reef]

This why we drag the underleveled friends into them (in a private lobby)

[amber nest]

Also, true level mod for fun

[long wharf]

strangely enough, more often than getting pinned down by lines of gunners

[spice veldt]

i can usually DPS down the flamers/bombers before they get annoying unless they're the sole spawns of a special wave

[long wharf]

you always have the bombers getting a grenade out before they're seen

or a barrel going off

always something

[spice veldt]

barrel fire doesn't strip toughness

[amber nest]

Barrel doesn't strip toughness, afaik

[long wharf]

it doesn't?

[spice veldt]

bombers can be staggered but it does suck if they're pulling their pin out of LoS

[amber nest]

The fire from a barrel does health ticks because it's 'allied fire'

[spice veldt]

like that one spot on the midevent of chasm terminus

[flat magnet]

Wait WHAT

[spice veldt]

where 5 bombers can just end you

[long wharf]

huh.

[spice veldt]

yeah, it's only flamer/bomber fire that strips you

[amber nest]

Shoot a fire barrel and go stand in the flames, toughness stays up but your health ticks down

[spice veldt]

barrel fire does something along the lines of 10 pure health damage per tick

but doesnt touch your toughness

[fresh reef]

Dead because fire ignores toughness

[umbral helm]

bombers also always seem to have martyrdom enabled whenever you kill one. gotta get that grenade drop on death every time

[fresh reef]

[long wharf]

besides, more health = more corruption you can take

and you can get more health mathematically than you can toughness

[fresh reef]

I take corruption resistance because I'm deranged

[long wharf]

what a waste - I take ordo docket gain

[flat magnet]

Moneymaxing

[amber nest]

I just have a vet friend with the toughness heal talent, no corruption resistance needed when a health pack clears it anyway

[fresh reef]

True, true

But then the Loner Zealot pulls a DH and no one else has corruption cleansing

[bleak tulip]

are we doing the whole weirdo take of ALL HEALTH again

[spice veldt]

you can get more health but toughness also regenerates

[flat magnet]

I mean it makes sense for psykers though

You generate toughness with your peril management

[limber tartan]

I take 9 stamina

[amber nest]

I just happened to get better health curios on my new psyker, so I rely on my shield and toughness regen speed to get my toughness back

[spice veldt]

i'm more often than not having engagements where I have the opportunity to regenerate toughness rather than engagements where I get dumped on

[umbral helm]

I got enough health for it to be listed as 123 in the bottom right and I was happy

[flat magnet]

Ah, yes

Very necessary for the pogryn blocking

[umbral helm]

or

yes, brain. bottom right

bottom left

[fading iris]

Just run 3 of this and you will be fine

[flat magnet]

STAMINA

[umbral helm]

my brain is groggy, getting directions mixed up. think that's a sign to get up and go get food

[fading iris]

gonna go fast

[flat magnet]

Only one way to outrun the Loner stealth field knife zealot

[fading iris]

[frail spear]

Is running toughness curios not worth it? A couple builds I've seen run %toughness and toughness regen. And why is it all the blessed bullet?

[fading iris]

because bullets are fast

[fading depot]

DT so buggy i got people accusing me of being a bug abuser without me even knowing why 😒

Im just gonna use the staff that blows the ground up

[fading iris]

and because I used the build editor to create this beauty perfection

[flat magnet]

As psykers it depends

Cause you can regen toughness with peril management, and the dome shield

So for me, I run low toughness builds to keep it at 100% easier

[harsh urchin]

Its always mathematically better to get some amount of both toughness and health

[flat magnet]

Although I may need to do some testing cause I just realized it uses percentages for Regen not flat numbers

[harsh urchin]

Whether you do 2xhp 1x tough or 2x tough 1x hp is your preference

[flat magnet]

2hp 1 Stam x3

[harsh urchin]

But you get more out of splashing a bit of both

[rugged hare]

I find that wounds are also helpful on higher difficulties to stop random poxbursters from one shotting you

[harsh urchin]

Or even stam/hp/toughness

[frail spear]

So running 3 toughness curios is almost overkill. Mixing it up would be better is what you're saying.

[harsh urchin]

This is mostly skill issue tbh

Wounds are pretty pointless to better players

[flat magnet]

Eh not entirely

Sometimes shit goes wrong and then the director be all

WOE, POXBURSTER UPON YE

[rugged hare]

Well thats rather harsh dont you think?
I'm saying shit happens

[wind wadi]

But sometimes pug point blank ogryn says no

[harsh urchin]

Correct; to new players id recommend wound/hp/hp or wound/hp/toughness

[flat magnet]

Sometimes

Stealth Crusher

[harsh urchin]

And once you're better swap it to stamina hp or toughness

[flat magnet]

[frail spear]

And the actual curio itself doesn't matter as long as you've got the right stats, right?

[fading iris]

Everything is already chaotic, then the game goes:

[harsh urchin]

Plenty of time to type angrily then

As u relax and have some coffee

[flat magnet]

Stats are what matters

[frail spear]

Okay, makes sense to me

[flat magnet]

Who TF does that just unleash your inner loner zealot and leave

The second you go down

[rugged hare]

HA

[flat magnet]

Or ig blame your team

[fading iris]

I had one mission that a grenade dude appeared between me and one teammate already dropping the grenade

[wind wadi]

The curio types/item rating don't affect the rolls

[harsh urchin]

goes down "shit team" leaves

[flat magnet]

Exaaaactly

[fresh reef]

What do we think of people running +hp, +toughness, and +stamina?

[rugged hare]

once had a dude say "forget this Im not carrying you", leave, and then we won

[flat magnet]

I mean it makes sense
Sorta

[glossy ember]

rectangle shield is kinda shnice

[harsh urchin]

to be fair

[flat magnet]

True it does block muties and pitbulls

[harsh urchin]

i've ragequit games before

[flat magnet]

But like that requires using my brain

[glossy ember]

lol

[wet jacinth]

[bleak tulip]

plenty fast without stam and I would prefer having more health or toughness

[harsh urchin]

I noticed I ran out of ammo

and there was 3 vets

(i was og)

and none of them had ammo aura

[glossy ember]

my brain is half turned off since i use surge staff

[harsh urchin]

so I just left LOL

[flat magnet]

Use assail with surge to completely turn off your brain

[wet jacinth]

Me wondering if this is with empowered psionics or nah

[glossy ember]

if I do that I can't get the 5% peril reduction

[flat magnet]

and make sure to use assail on crushers x3

[glossy ember]

warp charges

i never use ep

[wet jacinth]

Good

[flat magnet]

Feel like EP is only good with Brain burst

[rugged hare]

nah I feel its good with the chain lighting too

[sonic coral]

to add to earlier: barrel fire not only doesn't strip tough, you can also bunny hop through it w/o taking hp ticks

[wet jacinth]

Isn't surge still bugged with EP

[glossy ember]

yes it is

[wet jacinth]

Or did that get fixed

Isee

[harsh urchin]

wdym EP is like

the defacto pick

[glossy ember]

i'll be honest half the time the dogs ignore the rectangle shield completely

[harsh urchin]

for most of the trending builds rn

[glossy ember]

muties yeah sure it works

[harsh urchin]

bug-abuse surge, assail, any BB

[fresh reef]

Pox Hound named Princess:

[glossy ember]

dogs can kinda just jump through it somehow

[flat magnet]

I uh

Don't know the trending builds

[harsh urchin]

DD is giga trash

and warp charges drop charges when you press buttons

which is super annoying

[flat magnet]

Pox hound named princess
(It's about to rip my face off)

[wet jacinth]

[flat magnet]

True its annoying but
Like

I can drop sooo many shields

[sonic coral]

I like dd tbh

[flat magnet]

Never used DD

So idk

[sonic coral]

I only use it for 2 builds but on those I dig it

[wet jacinth]

DD is more for crit gunpsyker

[glossy ember]

[sonic coral]

it has the added benefit of doing a "soft exec stance" where it will point out enemies to you through walls, often giving an idea of specials tucked around corners or etc.

[flat magnet]

I touched scriers gaze s couple times
Couldn't really understand it

I know it's good for crit / gunker builds but

[wet jacinth]

Iirc. I have it combined with gaze and my laspistol

[sonic coral]

Scrier is for mk 4 dueling + las

go fast

[glossy ember]

you get to go fast

[flat magnet]

then again I used a knife with it x3

[opal pebble]

I tried using it to bump up assail even more but built warp way too quickly

[fading iris]

[glossy ember]

scrier still my fav ult

even if not as good as the other two

well, rather than good

[wet jacinth]

You use assail outside of gaze.

[fading iris]

don't forget 3x of the curios I sent

[glossy ember]

more like it excels with guns just nothing else

[flat magnet]

Good way to get toughness in a pinch at the very least ig

[glossy ember]

[flat magnet]

[sonic coral]

scrier is fun, esp with dd, you whip around at mach 5 busting heads and especially with the blaze on elite kill thing and rending on your saber, then dumdum and assail, it's wild

cokehead psyker

[glossy ember]

psycoke

[fading iris]

run so fast, gonna phase through the walls and finish the mission before it even starts

[flat magnet]

Psykers with spook Les go

Finally

We can keep up with the zealot

We can now die alone way ahead of the team

[royal ibex]

my faves when you join a low intensity mission and the game still goes 'eh fuck it 10 ragers and 5 crushers' every so often

[sonic coral]

zealot lookin like wile e coyote next to the psycoked-up road runner

[glossy ember]

the diff between 60 and 80 warp res really isn't much huh

[sonic coral]

don't even need enemies to die to a mile ahead of the team, just blow up

[flat magnet]

Low intensity?

Nah, we 7 crushers and 9 maulers up in here

[sonic coral]

"you couldn't comprehend even a fraction of my power"

[royal ibex]

i wrote off scryers/DD initially, then started using it a few days ago, and the whole going mach 5 thing with DD/Gaze/Mettle x3 is addictive as hell

[sonic coral]

yes, it rocks

[royal ibex]

just need to get a columnus with dumdum now

[long wharf]

laspistol

[glossy ember]

does DD give movement speed

[sonic coral]

plays like a completely different class

[long wharf]

infernus+dumdum

[royal ibex]

this is what im using atm

[glossy ember]

oh shit it does

[flat magnet]

join game as assail psyker
See monstrosity
Blow up due to peril
Leave

[royal ibex]

im so trigger happ;y im burning ammo 90% of the time lmao

[fading iris]

I closed the game some minutes ago because I joined a mission, the other psyker blows himself direct to casuality, then the games just unleash a Chaos spawn and 2 buwalks on a small area with a horde already on it.

[flat magnet]

I rarely burn through all of my ammo as psyker unless I'm solo x3

[royal ibex]

i had a mission yesterday with another coked up second ammendment enjoyer, we had 5 monstrosities '2 DHs' and none of them lived longer than 15 seconds

[flat magnet]

Much more a
"I want you dead but you're too far away to stab"

[visual adder]

Who’s winning

[glossy ember]

bg3

[long wharf]

this isn't #polls

[summer prairie]

bg3 and it's not close

[long wharf]

take that shit somewhere else

[fading iris]

BG3 will probably farm 15 more awards

[sonic coral]

nice thing about assail is other than a lever to crank peril and a convenience for chaff and maintaining DD, you can also lean on it a little bit if it's a dry ammo round thanks to either ammo pickup spawns or dickhead teammates

[royal ibex]

its nice to have for hordes , plus to build up peril for the extra damage based on peril perk

[sonic coral]

and warp kill tough replen

[fading iris]

Where is the psyker skill where you access a warp bag of holding to get more ammo

[glossy ember]

ohhh no wonder it doesn't last as long as the bubble

[sonic coral]

having a bad time, throw a couple sideways knives at poxwalkers then continue at your business

[flat magnet]

Assail got ruined for me cause I used it pre-patch

Now I just cringe seeing anyone use it, even if it got nerfed

But glad it's more balanced though, very much has it's used

[royal ibex]

assail has entered the chat

[royal ibex]

god yeah u13 it was slightly overtuned

[flat magnet]

"slightly"

[sonic coral]

yea it's a very useful tool, I almost don't even want to call assail an actual weapon ha

[fading iris]

Can you put the assail shards in your gun? no?

[visual adder]

Hey bud, I found this 🥢. It’s the stick you had up your ass. Try not to lose it again.

[royal ibex]

woe, caseless ammo upon ye

[flat magnet]

Woe, rager be upon ye

(bit of a skill issue but I die to rangers the most often lul)

RAGERS

not rangers

[frail spear]

New enemy type

[royal ibex]

'laughs in deimos second heavy'

'pls fatshark dont change the impact, its hilarious watching it floor crushers'

[flat magnet]

Oops! All crushers!

[fading iris]

I can kill everything and I can die to everything, I leave at the God Emperor to decide what happens each time

[sonic coral]

vent is pretty handy for packs of maniacs, lets you get your timing back if you're taken totally by surprise

[glossy ember]

to go fast, or be tough...

[royal ibex]

speed

[sonic coral]

speed

[flat magnet]

Also I love how the trauma staff just locks crushers to the floor

Well

[royal ibex]

build up enough stacks of DD you also deal beeg damage

[flat magnet]

Basically everything

[glossy ember]

[royal ibex]

'assuming it doesnt bug out and not mark targets'

[sonic coral]

and guaranteed it will

still worth it

[fading iris]

feature

[royal ibex]

without fail

[sonic coral]

lol

[royal ibex]

seeing a plague ogryn live a whole 20 seconds since you hit that warp dust with 15 stacks is intoxicating

[fading iris]

the only viable build in this game is the Ogryn melee slap build

[royal ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/pacific-rim-you-keep-talking-listening-keep-talking-gif-11959377

[rocky yarrow]

The slap 😟

[flat magnet]

Oh yea you ever use the catachan swords with Kinetic Deflection?

It's not good per-se but holy emperor does it feel good

[royal ibex]

waiting on fatshark to release a new skill where you just throw away your gun/sword and throw down with warp infused fists

[plucky flax]

Handcannon assail with quite a lot of warpfire damage.

[flat magnet]

WE NEED THIS NOW

[royal ibex]

'my beloved guided these hands'

[fading iris]

log on the Ogryn > join a mission > slaps everything into a staggered ragdoll > spam cheer voice lines > Profit

[sonic coral]

I've had several all-ogryn pub matches where the finale to the level was us slap-only'ing the final hordes and playing football with power cells we didn't need/took to the dropship with us

[flat magnet]

Boutta show these heretics why these hands are rated E for everyone

[rocky yarrow]

This game needs a rock and stone button

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/henry-cavil-mission-impossible-gif-20938943

[flat magnet]

FOR THE EMPEROR!

[rocky yarrow]

Exactly what I was thinking

Like in boltgun

[flat magnet]

(just forget they say "for atoma" as well

[royal ibex]

god imagine them giving a fists weapon to psyker first instead of ogryn. the big lads would throw a fit

[visual adder]

Wdym it has one lol

[rocky yarrow]

It does??

[royal ibex]

i think they mean a dedicated button not a speech wheel option

[summer prairie]

I wonder if it's a bug that the damage specialists do to the shield ignores the minimum duration of the shield

[visual adder]

Yeee

Hold middle mouse then select “For the Emperor”

[flat magnet]

My apologies brute, but my fists are empowered by my incomparible mind!

Remember
That's from a mod

[visual adder]

No no

[royal ibex]

'sorry sweet brute, but my beloved said it would be way funnier this way'

[visual adder]

The for the emeperor is apartas there

[flat magnet]

[visual adder]

The mod adds other things

[flat magnet]

"Of course sweet brute, I'll dream some fists for you next week!"

2 months later

[sonic coral]

Speaking of which, how are people saying "yes" via the team wheel ingame? I don't see an option for it, but I see people type "yes" in blue in the chat

[visual adder]

The mod adds:

-Yes
-Noo
-Need Help

[flat magnet]

Mod.

[sonic coral]

ah

[flat magnet]

I coulda SWORN that the for the emperor button was from the mod

[fading iris]

Why this is turning into a Psyker x Ogryn fanfic?

[flat magnet]

Cause I DO NOT remember seeing it

[visual adder]

Nah nah nah, I can confirm this is not the case

[flat magnet]

B r u h

[fading iris]

"Oh my sweet brute, you have such big hands"

[sonic coral]

in base game it's the "cheer" option

[visual adder]

[flat magnet]

x3

[visual adder]

Ye

[burnt mulch]

[flat magnet]

Oh I'm

Ogryn brained

[visual adder]

So big brain

[frail spear]

Psyker never seems to actually cheer for the emperor. Unless I just haven't heard it yet

[royal ibex]

nah thats been int he game for a bit. dunno when they added it, i left after 100 hours, and a bug when iw as levellign zealot that caused my game to crash when i got a knife push attack crit, came back u13 so tis been between then and now

[sonic coral]

(I don't use mods because I'm above it, unlike people who do use mods, making them below me)

[visual adder]

That tracks

[strong gulch]

I think it comes from the For the Emperor mod that gives more social wheel options.

[visual adder]

Cant argue with that logic tbh

[flat magnet]

As someone with factually correct opinions

People who use mods are

[frail spear]

It's more just "I'm alive and that's great"

[visual adder]

Potato 🥔

[flat magnet]

True

"I'm not dead yet? Lucky me!"

[strong gulch]

Did I do a potato?? Probably. 🥲 👍

[glossy ember]

time to test the speed

[flat magnet]

Speed.

[visual adder]

Anyone wanna see my dog

[flat magnet]

[flat magnet]

Nuh

[visual adder]

Ok

[royal ibex]

Become speed. Make our Beloved proud

[flat magnet]

I've seen enough pox hounds named Princess

[visual adder]

Lol

[rocky yarrow]

huh, so it is true, never noticed the cheer option

[visual adder]

[flat magnet]

I have a question
If I started hearing voices in my head do I get better at playing psyker

[fading iris]

who... you don't hear the random screams that aren't conversations?

btw I wonder if someday we will have the option to play the other side... I miss Eternal Crusade

[burnt mulch]

Hasnt worked for me

[flat magnet]

Sad

[visual adder]

Yes, but only marginally

It’s like a 0.1% increase

[fresh reef]

rate the whole setup

[flat magnet]

I see Trauma staff

Instant 100 peril out of 100

[frail spear]

It's a stacking buff lol. The more voices you hear, the higher the increase.

[visual adder]

Yep

[flat magnet]

Ahhh I see

Lemme quickly just open a portal to hell real quick I need voices

[fresh reef]

sniper resistance be hittin

[frail spear]

The problem becomes the increasingly high chance of going full schizo and your head explodes. Sort of like how peril works in game.

[fading iris]

just kill the sniper

[fresh reef]

sir yes sir

[flat magnet]

Me quelling (silencing) the peril (voices) so I don't blow up (go insane)

[frozen hearth]

Have they fixed empowered psionics on surge staff yet

[long wharf]

nope

surge staff still feels good to use

[flat magnet]

Nyop

[hot zephyr]

This was very helpful for a returning gunker fan to see how the assail/autogun/knife build plays. Thank you!

[frozen hearth]

I’ve been sticking to warp battery as of late but I really want my smite to contribute to kills

[snow dust]

My blessings and perks are kind of a mess, can I salvage this staff?

hadron only lets me change two perk/blessing right?

[flat magnet]

Idk I think mommy hadron bricked it

[fading iris]

[flat magnet]

Yea, only 2

[snow dust]

sad hamster Dx

[woeful hollow]

what would be the options?

[frozen hearth]

Ratling! Tech adept! Somehow a tau????

[woeful hollow]

am new to WH40k stuff

[fading iris]

We still have some in lore options

[flat magnet]

Space marine

[fresh reef]

@fading iris I think the sniper is dead

[frozen hearth]

I know having a tau is next to impossible but it’d be a welcome surprise

[snow dust]

What's the best blessings/perks for surge staff?

[fading iris]

we have Mechanicum, we have artificer, apothecary that isn't space marine

[flat magnet]

Sniper is dead?

[woeful hollow]

looks like its still twitching to me

[fresh reef]

Correct!

[frozen hearth]

It’s the only Xenos I can think of that’d end up in a penal colony

[fresh reef]

He died!

[snow dust]

nah, some assembly required. He'll be fine, just taking a nap.

[frail spear]

Gotta chop it up into tinier pieces so it doesn't reform

[fading iris]

see? easier than hit the RMB a lot of times in the floor while get shot

[sonic coral]

So how exactly does dumdum interact with warp attacks/soul blaze? Just a bug that makes it affect both?

[flat magnet]

BRUHHHHH

Just toss it into the metalfab

[sonic coral]

I assume the weapon has to be out

[mental grail]

tech adept or a sister of battle??

[fading iris]

veteran and zealot opened the options for anything ends up getting into the jail... which is classic 40K, being innocent means nothing

I mean, we can even get Inquisitors and combat servitors

[frozen hearth]

It’s been said that marine aspirants and skitarii would just get executed. What’s to say about a tau then

[fading iris]

or if ppl really want SPACE MARINE without being a balance nightmare, you can pick some Minotaurs neofighters

[static needle]

Which roll is better for stats?

[thorn tapir]

what is this a screen cap of?

[mental grail]

Why do they look so different

[fading iris]

that's the thing, *everybody just get executed

[fading iris]

youtube video title that popped up

[sick veldt]

I'd guess that it's from some clickbait article written by someone who knows less about the game than any random idiot in this server lol.

[thorn tapir]

i do think we will get new classes but definitely not on this patch lol

[patent fiber]

what's the best force sword for melee wizard again?

[fading iris]

dude called Mister Mugsy

[mental grail]

Deimos

[patent fiber]

ah yes

[static needle]

anyone know?

[silk hawk]

"Surge staff is weak"

[frozen hearth]

I wouldn’t expect another class for a long time. I would expect fourth talent trees for existing classes before then

[silk hawk]

ekekek

[sick veldt]

post staff

[thorn tapir]

both are good. illisi for horde clear or blazing spirit, deimos to kill anything one shot

[viscid matrix]

our characters are slated for execution, we are getting the time extended by working with the inquisitors, we will probably end up getting executed eventually anyway

[snow dust]

whats your staff stats?

[frozen hearth]

Deimos is decent enough for horde clear if you have the horde dance down

[patent fiber]

I've also been thinking shield instead of scriers even for melee/gun pysker just because of how great it is on high shooter concentration missions, but i dont know the best way to spec into it

[static needle]

Which roll is better stats-wise?

[viscid matrix]

Surge staff currently has a bug that gives it more than double damage

[sick veldt]

what blessings should I be running on deimos? I've got unstable power and deflector on mine atm but have been wondering if I should switch deflector. I do like unstable power, especially w/ scrier's gaze

[silk hawk]

ye, i dont use it

bcuz warp charges are just better

[fading iris]

Yep, and we would be already dead if not the cinematic shenanigans and Zola

[thorn tapir]

illisi is really good with scriers gaze. really, really good. like kill 5 damnation poxwalkers in a single light attack good

[mental grail]

@timid fractal the drip coat

[fresh reef]

behold, the most dissapointing psykanhium clip ever created

[sick veldt]

nice, mine is similar but i've got warp flurry 4 but also only 60% warp res

[frozen hearth]

Make sure you’re running warp battery with that

[mental grail]

I don't know it's name but I NEED it

[timid fractal]

god damn

[frail spear]

This is from the store, isn't it?

[static needle]

pls just give ur suggestion

[steel flame]

My eyes are demanding a refund

[mental grail]

yes

[fading iris]

You really hate conga lines and really like to bind the recording to the ping button

[thorn tapir]

up to you, but deflector feels so good. unstable power is a very reliable buff but it depends on your playstyle

[viscid matrix]

eh i dont doubt we were probably gonna get executed soon, but there is only so many executions that can be enacted per day

[viscid matrix]

[mental grail]

@somber dew

[silk hawk]

i am currently running most atrocious skillless aimless build psyker could possibly run xD

[fresh reef]

I'm recording with xbox gamebar and can't be bothered to change the default binding of win+alt+R

[sick veldt]

unstable power does mad work for me on my gunpsyker+scrier's gaze build. because I pop scrier's gaze and then unstable power just does its thing. but I feel like I should get a different force sword for the builds where I run shield or shriek

[silk hawk]

and its so good XD

[fading iris]

our execution was just postponed because this is 40k, we can work our freedom, buuuuut death in mission or execution probably comes first

[somber dew]

Ohhh yeah that does look nice

[burnt mulch]

okay the little psyker that couldn't is HOME and time to look at my gear/build and see how i can be less of a floor tank

[flat magnet]

Not executed because there need to be more bodies on the ground doing suicide missions

Shit on atoma is not going well x3

[viscid matrix]

our execution was only postponed because we didnt break out and start killing loyalists and the inquisitors need bodies
thats the only reason

[thorn tapir]

with scriers gaze 🙂

[fading iris]

you fail to understand that on 40k... those different explanations... are all the same

[static needle]

anyone here who could give me advice on a roll?

[sick veldt]

HMMM

[static needle]

.

[silk hawk]

go for nat 20

[sick veldt]

exorcist has always seemed meh to me but never thought about how it would interact with gaze

[thorn tapir]

its still meh, but it keeps it up in a horde pretty much indefinitely

[fading iris]

Even more in the Inquisition, the game take some liberties, those vox shenanigans at the morningstar... on lore accurate Inquistion is a no no

[mental grail]

got "going out with a bang" when I exploded myself

that's an actual penance

[fading iris]

would be a rank battle because of disrespect that would end up with everybody being executed or turned into servitors

[viscid matrix]

you think everyone slated for execution are executed imediatly?? there is likely billions of people in jails slated for execution who are more than likely going to be conscipted into penal legions just like what happened to us

[mental grail]

fatshark is insane a little bit

[steel flame]

Vet can do that penance with plasma rifle

[thorn tapir]

the problem with scriers is the exponential peril generation. you can't truly 100% up time it so its not worth trying. but exorcist isn't USELESS. I def tried it for a bit on a no deflector illisi

[frail spear]

Tried getting that cliffhanger penance last night. Could not get it for the life of me.

[mental grail]

Both aspirants and skitarii are human, tau aren't getting a trial like us

[thorn tapir]

i just want deflector to be base line for all psyker melee weapons

[viscid matrix]

best way to do it, there is a bridge with a little side bridge on the left side, you can lure a horde onto the mini bridge, and use shriek from main bridge and knock them all off

[thorn tapir]

it depends on the space marine chapter. many scouts who fail out still go on to do good things for the chapter or earn places of respect

[fading iris]

No, I'm talking about our character situation because the conversation is new classes on the lore, not fast execution rates to make numbers

[frozen hearth]

Oh no I was accentuating the futility I. Hoping for a xenos reject

[steel flame]

You can't have 100% uptime anyway, cool down doesn't start till you hit 100 peeil

[fading iris]

Depend of the fail

some of the fails turn you into a servitor

[thorn tapir]

if it had linear peril generation you could keep it up forever

just never let the buff fall off

[mental grail]

I loaded up a bunch of 1 difficulty missions at 3am, so lobbies would be empty and pushed them off bridges

[thorn tapir]

some of them treat their serfs REALLY bad. some chapters are just literal slavers.

others are more like elite imperial navy

some of chapters house serfs are basically special forces infantry in their own right

[frail spear]

Apparently Metalfab is the go-to location to get it done with all the open railings on the last part of the mission. Might have to try some late night shenanigans for it this weekend

[fading iris]

Because of Warhammer is grimdark land, there is multiple options, most of them sucks, one is "good" by universe standards

[viscid matrix]

grimdark to a stupid extreme

[fading iris]

you get neofighters that fail one training shot, end up as servitor, or blow up the whole team, gets a comendation for a successful mission... which the next day can be turned into a servitor freecare because you wated potential bodies

[thorn tapir]

if you didn't want to make every new class a prisoner there are a good number if ways a space marine neophyte could end up an imperial acolyte

[fading iris]

that jail where we are at the start... that isn't a trial jail, that is already "next step, is execution/turned into servidor/ torture for information" and my favorite "yes"

[viscid matrix]

i highly doubt it will be a SM neophyte
techpreist is more likely

[thorn tapir]

yea there are like 10 more likely and better to execute ideas

[fading iris]

funny enough we get saved by Nurgle at the last minute... and because Zola is totally into us but is a Tsundere

[viscid matrix]

your ideas are insane

[snow dust]

What can I hadron swap out to make this better?

[young meteor]

warp nexus obv

[fading iris]

Nope the mustache even says they could save some time if just point the lasgun there and pull the trigger

[thorn tapir]

my top ideas are Admech class and Enforcer class for sure. those seem like total no brainers

[viscid matrix]

swap terrify for warp flurry
and either perk to crit chance

[glossy ember]

wonder if crit damage is worse than elite damage

[thorn tapir]

eat it for the level 4 sticker. gotta catch em all

[viscid matrix]

tbh its a much of a muchness

[fading iris]

an techpriest as new class would be nice, is a nice way to have support options... and more synth voices

[steel flame]

And that's why it doesn't have linear peril generation , I just lean on meditation to keep scrier going

[viscid matrix]

the DD upgrade also does what meditation does

[steel flame]

Yup

[fading iris]

btw after 30 years with the video on pause...

yeah, is a video about techpriests

[glossy ember]

i'd argue elite damage might potentially help getting a kill, while crit damage might not at all, or just be overkill

[fresh reef]

surge psyker explodes a burster that I'm pushing
I die instantly

[long wharf]

crit damage is a terrible perk

[fresh reef]

as if running EP Surge as a crutch wasn't bad enough

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[fresh reef]

shockingly, she then immediately died in melee

typical

[long wharf]

EP+Surge is a crutch?

[fading iris]

if you had the 3 speed curios, escaping would been fast

[long wharf]

EP doesn't make surge behave differently

[fresh reef]

it can be used a crutch, yes

very high damage, very little thought put into what you're doing mostly

[fading iris]

My EPless Surge is pretty good, I hope it doesn't get nerfed

[fresh reef]

mfw the team immediately wipes after the other psyker kills me

hilarious, truly

[fading iris]

Sister Mortadella likes to use caps, classic Zealot

[silent coral]

i wonder i people get bored if they have a smite psyker on their team just mass CCing everything so all enemies are basically sitting ducks

[noble stream]

Any suggestions on completing the Warp Battery Penances? I know it has to be 5 minutes with max charges in total, ability clears charges and has to be elite or specialist kills with currently my highest has been 283 but just can't seem to do it

[flat magnet]

Ehh,

Sometimes it can be a bit boring
But

There still has to be downtime,
Sometimes disablers sneak through or some enemy hits you from behind

It's very delicate

[fresh reef]

inb4 practical duo game

[mental grail]

Why does your psyker look like that

[flat magnet]

Not exactly

But
Taking a purge staff with the talent that gives you a charge 10% when an enemy dies with soulfire, with a dueling sword for stronger enemies does help

For me I just randomly got it without realizing x3

[silent coral]

What staff would you suggest best goes with smite?

[terse saffron]

@noble stream either that or just assail spam on any map with fast airlocks/no elevators. preferably hishock auric so you dont run out of enemies

[snow dust]

voidstrike if you can aim, surge if you can't

[fading iris]

bro has a bot name lol

[flat magnet]

With smite?
Depends

Surge or void if you want single damage

Purge if you want even MORE croud control

Trauma if you want to stagger shit on the spot, with okayish damage

[silent coral]

the surge bug is only with EP right? some people ha ve told me that the smite nodes also affect surge as well

[viscid matrix]

Surge staff counts as smite in the coding, so the +1 smite applies to surge

[wanton sandal]

is surge worth it on trauma?

never saw it on it lol

[fading iris]

it is "surge smite" after all

[silent coral]

no it only affact besic attack

[wanton sandal]

damn

[flat magnet]

^

[viscid matrix]

its Staff-bound Smite

[wanton sandal]

2 trauma bursts would be op

[fading iris]

Surge smite is cooler

staff-bound is too boring, too simple, sounds like Hadron speaking, we need FLAIR

and less coding without check

[warm dust]

But... but mah duelin sward?

I almost dont want to use this, but it seems good yeah?

[fading iris]

go for it

LET IT RIP

[silent coral]

How good is bloodletter blessing for a chainsword? I was thinking of using that since i got kinda bad boss damage

[warm dust]

tmk its much better on zealot because of all the rending buffs they get

[warm dust]

its good for single target dmg regardless, so if youre lookin for boss dps id use blood letter

[burnt mulch]

did a rank 4 mission without dying this is an achievement for me lol

[mental grail]

assail is best for warp battery right?

[glossy ember]

this build fucking rocks

[arctic nimbus]

First auric damnation maelstrom done. What a time to be alive.

[snow dust]

what took you so long? auric damnation isn't too bad

[lyric canopy]

Play high level with extra elites/special modifiers and pick something you can reliably kill with so surge/voidstrike and assail/brainburst

Oh and never use your ult

[silk hawk]

that surge build is nuts.... 😂

[glossy ember]

55k bot damage

[arctic nimbus]

After lots of attempts I got it in my first auric heresy, far more elites

[silk hawk]

ye that bot was godlike

XD

[noble stream]

Yeah I've been playing since launch, have 3/4 classes at lvl 30 and only recently completed my first Heresy level soo the "High" level stuff isn't happening

[lyric canopy]

Just play with a team that can carry and don’t blow up. Hmu if ya need a crew later

[arctic nimbus]

Xbox player, didn’t think I’d be appreciated joining before a decent build

[glossy ember]

oh, i thought level 4s were guarenteed on final consecration...

[fading iris]

oh sweet summer child

[fresh reef]

like what?

[lyric canopy]

I burned through all my plasteel and ordo dockets for a decent staff and force sword. Didn’t get it

Feelsbadman

[silk hawk]

like he is out of his mind XD

[vale hatch]

What's the ''best'' for auric damnation ?

[silk hawk]

skill i guess XD

[fresh reef]

genuinely whatever build you're the most comfortable running

strong builds don't necessarily equate to strong gameplay if you're not very familiar with the tools you're using

[lyric canopy]

Whatever build keeps you far away from barrels

[echo frigate]

Preach

Nothing like not getting hit once until your buddy triggers a barrel by accident and you get sent flying into the abyss

[fresh reef]

gunner resist doesn't apply to shotgunners right?

[silk hawk]

right

[fresh reef]

just queue with me and I can save you by virtue of me being on Spook with precognition this good

[fading iris]

Only if you that in a new video

[echo frigate]

lol

[silk hawk]

that was actually a sick save, even thou i am sure that vet didnt even understand it XD

[glossy ember]

that fov

[fading iris]

and now I realized... I think I played one mission with Smasha

[echo frigate]

Man I was pissed then just laughing my ass off

Same dude who accidentally hit that barrel got Nurgle to clip him through the map

[digital narwhal]

Fuckin' love my Columnus Gun Psyker.

[fresh reef]

?

What's wrong with 90 fov?

[glossy ember]

it feels so close to the camera

or maybe i'm too used to being a fish

might be a me problem

[fresh reef]

not to me lol

[glossy ember]

ye

[fresh reef]

after playing at 90 for 8 years in tf2 it just feels comfy

[silk hawk]

salvage it?

[fresh reef]

bricked to hell and back, not worth

[silk hawk]

QQ

[flat magnet]

I would personally say so, Although get the Warp Flurry

[fresh reef]

oh true, didn't see the T4

[digital narwhal]

TB to Warp Nexus, and Stamina to Flak

[fresh reef]

75% burn

[digital narwhal]

oh

[fresh reef]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/886381235130228819/1146887619486162954/image0.gif

[digital narwhal]

ouch

[silk hawk]

i was thinking about it... but meh, i will wait for a better one 🙂

[digital narwhal]

Tbf

It's pretty decent

3.5/4

[fresh reef]

ok but still buy it to pull the flurry off of it

[silk hawk]

i did 🙂

[digital narwhal]

Fair

[fresh reef]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-explode-explosion-cats-kaboom-gif-5543609305179444322

[glossy ember]

sprint eficiency

[silk hawk]

15% sniper res is not that abd thou 🙂

[flat magnet]

ooo
decent apart from the tox flamer resistance

[flat magnet]

15% less damage is 15% less damage

[silk hawk]

cant argue with that XD

[flat magnet]

altho now that I think on it what's the point of flamer res?

[fading iris]

[silk hawk]

its here so we can suffer

[flat magnet]

Understandable

[fresh reef]

it's fine but I was looking for +5 hp or toughness

was gonna roll this into a corruption resist

[silk hawk]

my trash looks like that

xD

[fresh reef]

not 21% health

https://tenor.com/view/cats-meme-cats-funy-cat-gif-20731112

[glossy ember]

doesn't 21% health make your health not a round number tho

[flat magnet]

not 21% hp literal trash

[silk hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/x-one-x1-seungyoun-nod-kpop-gif-15377381

[fresh reef]

with the current setup I can survive 3 pointblank bursters

also this clip just made me cackle

[flat magnet]

159 toughness on psyker
that is just
so cursed to me

[glossy ember]

the end

lmao

[flat magnet]

trust me I can ready

[flat magnet]

xd

[fresh reef]

I would also like to point out that my game crashed instantly after that

[glossy ember]

peak comedy

[silk hawk]

kekw

[flat magnet]

[burnt mulch]

how much toughness should i have?

[silk hawk]

bursted out of the game

sheeeee

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/shooting-star-gif-26316388

[flat magnet]

No idea what other people think
but I go with like
normally 90.

Mainly so I can keep the DR of having 100% Toughness up as often as possible

[edgy ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-fly-darktide-explode-goodbye-gif-16510274390543607132

[silk hawk]

enough to survive one sniper shot and not die

[flat magnet]

but some people prefer having more

[burnt mulch]

i do not know what that number is :c

I think I've got... 95? toughness

[flat magnet]

what do you MEAN you dont have 300 toughness

smh my head

[burnt mulch]

im soft and squishy :c

[flat magnet]

soft
squishy and dangerous

[burnt mulch]

im not dangerous :3

(i promise)

[flat magnet]

[silk hawk]

u are a warp freak

obviously u aare dangerous