psyker-class

[glossy ember]

being sent to the pins and then reading the aethenum once

[idle bay]

Oh i did not checked it for quite a while 🙂 All the juicy updates....

[olive ember]

It’s better now but some breakpoints still hold

[frail sand]

i mean thats fine, but when shit hits the fan i need pub teammates to actually use medipack

[olive ember]

Don’t rely on pub teammates in general

First rule of coop games

[frail sand]

i cant yoink their medipack smh

[bleak tulip]

that's the rare occasion to use voice chat

[olive ember]

It doesn’t matter what coop game WWZ, DRG, darktide, pubs suck

[near wyvern]

Yeah I tried to get a permission from mods to ping in this channel when I finish it for current patch but they said we ain't doing pings here so can't notify people of bigger updates unfortunately

[olive ember]

Lol they’ll just ignore you anyways

[glossy ember]

by the way

[bleak tulip]

idk at least in Europe voice chat is so rare that people do shit you want pretty often when suddenly a voice tells me to do it

[glossy ember]

any way to fix a 75 rating 3 stam curio... it doesn't give me 3 stamina in missions

[olive ember]

Anyways it’s 8 now ima go sleep haha I didn’t sleep at all tonight

[frail sand]

deep breath "I NEED HEALLLLLING"

[obtuse moth]

i find you often need them for the final stand when theres no more medicae accessible, and if you regularly need them earlier than that your squad probably isn't cut out to complete the mission. rather use it when ive invested 95% of the time already or fail early. if its just one person left or every single person is low and theres no medicae near or we're fighting a boss etc i'll use it. otherwise no i will yoink it so people won't waste it in front of a medstation or to top one person up etc

[olive ember]

Tho tbh I yoink medkits specifically so if I need healing I can drop it kekw

[bleak tulip]

ahhhh, I need a medic bag

[olive ember]

see the hypocrisy?

if you are low hp, sucks to suck the rest of the team doesn't need it

if IM low hp

that shits getting deployed

fuck the rest of you

[frail sand]

[olive ember]

full health? oh well I'm about to die

[idle bay]

Sadly each steam award can be assigned only once for the guide... otherwise i'd dumped like 200k steam points on it 🙂

[olive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/dallas-payday2-kiss-medic-bag-gif-25071219

[frank moat]

Roughneck, get the fuck up

[obtuse moth]

i find those people that tunnel vision also will tunnel hearing and completely whiff voice chat. they won't hear anything until the mission's failed.

doesn't matter how many times i ping it, or type it or say it. can be 3 other people calling their names in voice chat and in allcaps text

[idle bay]

I wonder is one-time buffs for missions will be added to the store? Like "Shot of Frenzon" of "Shot of Slaught" for Zealots to get things going in more intense way...

[frank moat]

Actually on the topic of Payday medkits and ammo crates

Really wish there was a visual indicator of charges remaining

[frail sand]

I wish I was better so I can carry AM pubs

[bleak tulip]

think there's a mod for that

[frail sand]

but alas

[bleak tulip]

as per usual

[frank moat]

I’ve got the mod but doesn’t stop my one teammate from taking three ammo supplies

[bleak tulip]

[frail sand]

[icy veldt]

I need a Medic Bag

[idle bay]

Why why we have coat with such cool print on the back but not on the front

[frail sand]

I need red sugar

[frank moat]

Nitraaaaa

[icy veldt]

Careful, it’s highly addictive

[bleak tulip]

so your teammates can see it as you sprint ahead

[idle bay]

Though ass having eyes is somewhat questionable design

[icy veldt]

Psyker is self conscious of their dumpy

[obtuse moth]

that mod is called teaching newbies how the game works

[idle bay]

Offer a round of Lho stick to the team to chill them out

[near wyvern]

It's so that your allies can admire it when you show them the way

[idle bay]

That is why i'm using leopard pants on my ogryn

[silk hawk]

https://youtu.be/TmZUK1XBdrs

[frail sand]

dayum

[idle bay]

Compliments on that pants almost evrery mission

[silk hawk]

i made a funny ds macros XD

[near wyvern]

I wonder if it's better DPS to do heavy special spam for those stabs on this mk

[plucky flax]

You improve everyday. Eventually you'll do it routinely.

[potent echo]

Value to the light inside?

[silk hawk]

just additional dps and faster uncanny stacks its almost instant

[potent echo]

I see

[olive ember]

improve?

I don't improve

I just run it down

[frail sand]

I simply accept my fate

[olive ember]

and somehow I still do better than the average random

smh

[idle bay]

Almost there on 2nd try 🙂

[frail sand]

steals ur columnus

i tried running gunker in AM and I think the whole team ran out of ammo lmao

i need a way to inspect what talent trees my pub teammates are running, always curious

[near wyvern]

You are doing it wrong then. Gunker when played right will live with leftover ammo. If there is a vet with ammo aura you should not need any pick ups.

[frail sand]

you're assuming the vet uses survivalist

[potent echo]

SoonTM

Then you can shit on their loadout while they are solo clutching vs boss and horde

[frail sand]

there are some builds i want to steal

[potent echo]

And you are tied up in a corner

[idle bay]

Which one?

[near wyvern]

Ehh, if you can control it the one on the right

[frail sand]

i vote 2nd

[near wyvern]

You need +flak

[idle bay]

Recoil and stability is never and issue for me - too much looter shooters in my muscle memory. A lot of Destiny 2....

[near wyvern]

Luckily it's not that server with Columnus cause you don't use it for long range anwyays

And if you hipfire on horde you gotta anyways wiggle your mouse to avoid dumping bullets into bodies

[idle bay]

Everything on it screams - SMG hug range

[near wyvern]

It's mainly that mid range ADS on gunners, shotgunners and ragers that can be a bit harder to find a head if going full auto

[frail sand]

bursting helps, i find full auto to be a bit too wonky

[near wyvern]

But just burst fire in that case and you should be fine, the recoil resets extremely fast on IAGs so all you loose is true aim if you are unlucky on the timings.

Assail is always there for moments when you give up on aiming

[idle bay]

Columnus have interesting behavior. It MAY (or may not) JUMP at the start of the burst and then it's stable as laserbeam

[spice veldt]

the jump occurs at the beginning of its recoil and if you're moving

[idle bay]

I was expecting that i'd need to brawl with recoil for whole burst

[viscid fox]

Do I want to use ep or warp siphon with the arrow ability?

[spice veldt]

the recoil is rather annoying without a second crosshair to indicate where your recoil will rest to

[idle bay]

No JUMPS on short bursts also

[spice veldt]

yes

it jumps at the beginning of a burst

[idle bay]

Then why Stability Stat exists ? 🙂

[spice veldt]

stable hands are a myth

earthquake city

[frail sand]

mental stability

[idle bay]

Overrated

[frail sand]

below 50% it starts to cry when handling

[viscid fox]

?

[near wyvern]

The pattern is the following:

• first 5 shots are always almost purely vertical
• the next shots until around 10 rounds left have quite strong horizontal kick with very little vertical kick
• the last 10 rounds have in practice no recoil at all

[idle bay]

Completely forgot about this thing

[frail sand]

why cant staffs have flashlights

[idle bay]

Very comfortasble gun to get used to 🙂

[idle bay]

They have. But you need to keep clicking LMB

[idle bay]

It lacks +5% Crit sadly...

[frail sand]

still pretty good rolls

[idle bay]

Instead of crit damage otherwise it will something even more terryfing

1269 crit hits on Unyelding

it have power equal to Comissar Kain's laspitol that can 1-shot Warboss

[frail sand]

surge staff should have a flashbang LMB action

[idle bay]

Better one - turning enemy ito a flashling 🙂

[frail sand]

why doesnt soulblaze emit more environmental lighting

[idle bay]

All good when you beat Hadron's RNG fest with rolling good weapons... but not i need to share ammo with others and it makes me sad 😦

[near wyvern]

Cause Purgarus staff would be burning brighter than the sun

[frail sand]

good

i too like to enforce a low visibility modifier for my team

this time "lights on" modifier

[idle bay]

Does anyone tinkers with Solo Mod? After Patch 13 it seems it crashes for me every time and i can;t make it work

[viscid fox]

What type of assail build should I run I'm level 25

[near wyvern]

• purgarus psyker with dome
• zealot with flamer
• smoke nade veteran
• rumbler gunlugger ogryn

Have fun trying to see shit.

[frail sand]

the ogryn nade box still tanks my frames holy smokes

the moment it is deployed i see a slideshow

[cosmic sigil]

So I did some testing with the dueling sword.... I feel way more safer with the deimos. So what is the reason to use one over the other?

(except the swag factor)

[bleak tulip]

faster head stabs too

deimos does more damage with h2 but its slower to get there while mk4 can just keep poking

build uncanny -> bobs your uncle

[rocky yarrow]

just did a mission with 4 psykers and it was some of the most fun ive had in darktide

[bleak tulip]

and a mk4 can still one shot muties with basic damage buffs up

[glossy ember]

wonder if they'll ever nerf uncanny

[near wyvern]

DS4 is more offensive and has better sustained DPS with the heavy heavy pokes, Deimos is more burst damage.

Due to the rampage bug, DS4 has as good horde clear as Deimos but after that fix Deimos will have better horde clear through Slaughterer.

In short, Deimos is your bursty option with better defense while DS4 is more sustained DPS and all about offense.

[bleak tulip]

and can stop em if youre not sure with special

[near wyvern]

Well... Rending already caps at +100% so that's a nerf of sorts.

[desert mirage]

man, blackout, DH nearby, plague ogryn, weakened plague ogryn, and snipers

[onyx sentinel]

crazy how much more mobile DS feels compared to force swords

zooming with all these mettle stacks

[frail sand]

lights out is so scary when some enemies sounds are bugged

like silent maulers/crushers

[spice oar]

Truly an incomparable experience

[rocky yarrow]

no one even blew up

(i used my venting shriek with 1 second left before i blew up)

[frail sand]

oh btw has anyone figured out why sometimes there are random melee-about-to-get-hit sounds sometimes?

[cosmic sigil]

I tried dueling maulers and ragers and well it felt indeed safer with the deimos.

[frail sand]

like i see an enemy in front of me but a random melee warning sound plays behind my back

[bleak tulip]

cleaving 3 dudes with mh4 is a lot harder than you'd want so rampage might not be the best bet bug or not

you need a certain amount of density for that

[cosmic sigil]

I was recked everytime with the ds4

[bleak tulip]

you can stun lock ragers with specials

[cosmic sigil]

I did not get the timing right

[silk hawk]

special is instand, just aim at the head..

[plucky flax]

What range weapon do you use?

[cosmic sigil]

On the deimos I could push and follow with light + heavy

[plucky flax]

Usually i don't like to engage in melee with ragers.

[cosmic sigil]

Revolver most of the time

[bleak tulip]

you also have more range than ragers with mk4

[kind jay]

knife scrier dd is psychotic and i like it

[plucky flax]

Revolver is good against ragers.

[cosmic sigil]

Or columnus

[plucky flax]

What blitz do you use?

[bleak tulip]

both of them are fantastic against ragers

columnus melts em like nothing

[cosmic sigil]

But yeah I tend to shoot them... But sometimes you do not get the opportunity

[cosmic sigil]

Assail

[plucky flax]

Assail is super strong against ragers.

I would use ds to dodge back then assail them.

[bleak tulip]

alternating heavy and special works since they combo into each other

[cosmic sigil]

I need to work on the special then

[frail sand]

83k AM dayum

them dockets

[cosmic sigil]

I csn parry kill them with the claw now 😄

[onyx sentinel]

do we have numbers on how much faster your speed is with ds4 vs deimos/illi

[bleak tulip]

could do this

[cosmic sigil]

Thanks for the answer guys

[near wyvern]

Movement speed of what? Inventory stats mod

[bleak tulip]

think there is a mod that shows runspeed in game too if thats what youre after

[vivid merlin]

what do I do with this

[still hearth]

Hope they buff Brittleness for it.

I think you want Flak + Maniac on it but I can't say for usre.

[vivid merlin]

is brittleness not working as advertised or something

[still hearth]

It is working

Just that the trauma

Does like full damage to all armor types

So it's not that big value

You can help your allies without armor pen to kill crushers though

[bleak tulip]

blast radius isnt fantastic but not bad, could change out flurry for blazing and get flak

not sure if keeping flurry on a pure rending stick is worth but eh

you could also ust run it as is, switch stam to flak

[ripe crater]

Love this combo

[fresh reef]

Doesn't it still give buffs past 100% at 1/4th effectiveness? Or is that only for Brittleness stacks?

[potent echo]

i cant understand blazing trauma at all

[desert mirage]

jesus

[fresh reef]

Woe, level 36 Veteran, 40 Zealot, 32 Ogryn be upon ye

[fresh reef]

How so?

It burns things, that's about it

[potent echo]

i just run flurry nexus lol

[bleak tulip]

big aoe big fire

stacks high

combine with creeping

[wind halo]

Neither can I

[silk hawk]

seems like that shitty assail works well with surge

what a disappointment

[desert mirage]

Its super satisfying launching an orb into a line of a swarm and hearing the crit pop repeatedly

[crystal oxide]

Oookay had enough. Too many shitty random psykers on the SEA servers

Time to pull out mine and get shit done

[whole oxide]

i'm sure it used to be more satisfying, i feel like they've reduced the crunchiness

[silk hawk]

btw feels good to be max height....

kekw

[frail sand]

bullet sponge

[desert mirage]

smallest fem psyker gang

[crystal oxide]

It was super painful playing my marksman shotgun Vet, the two psykers couldn't add clear or stop blowing up xD

[desert mirage]

oh no thats rough

[frail sand]

man I need a gunker tutorial or something (or a build even), I suck at gunker

i keep running out of ammo

[desert mirage]

I have to admit i feel like the purgatus staff either doesnt do enough damage, or im too slow with it

trying an assail build

[frail sand]

just did the consignment yard AM mission, we had no vet, so ammo was extra rough

and idk about assail, it's not clicking for me

[desert mirage]

I love it

can snipe with it even

[crystal oxide]

Use assail till near overheat, then switch to an IAG

Agri mk1 or Graia is very ammo effecient

Assail keeps locks even when you switch to your gun

[frail sand]

it's just really rough in AM cuz there's so many specialists

[crystal oxide]

So launch them like a macross missile pod till you run out or high peril, then plug away

[frail sand]

[desert mirage]

Oh nice uncanny strikes for my Deimos

[crystal oxide]

They'll help your dps and ammo

[frail sand]

i think i simply played too much vet

i see thing i shoot thing

what is assail? doesnt exist

what do u do against carapace as gunker though?

[crystal oxide]

If you have Vets not sharing a brain cell, their Kraks should handle the squads of 4 plus easily enough. If you're caught alone, gotta use force sword or percision heavy attack dueling sword pokes

[frail sand]

like, i cant guarantee my pub teammates can do anything against carapace at all lul

[crystal oxide]

If you're a good gunker, your Vets should not have had to panic spam those nades on Maulers lol

Can't do much about bulwarks though.

[frail sand]

i cri

im thinking to run a whack gunker loadout

smite / creeping flames / DD

i'll see how this goes in AM

[potent echo]

i find that the best for me

[frail sand]

oo vent purge, ranged enemies mostly, this should be good for gunker if i dont die

[fading iris]

Very good or very bad, in the grimdark future of the 41st millenium there is only war and no in betweens

[steel flame]

You just kill crushers in 3 headshots with uncanny duelling sword, if you are using laspistol it can melt through maulers, or just use more dueling sword

[rocky yarrow]

Tips for cliffhanger penance?

[fading iris]

Dueling Sword, the Ol'reliable

[rocky yarrow]

Any one in particular?

I assume it's because it's better at pushing

[steel flame]

Get to end of hab drako mission, during extraction stand on the bend next to the broken fence and just push them in with your melee push till you get it

[whole oxide]

fairly sure the duelling sword response had nothing to do with cliffhanger query

[rocky yarrow]

Ah thanks

[rocky yarrow]

Noted

[silk hawk]

there is a mission where mobs going to center on 2 bridges

ask team to cooperate a bit and let u push them off

[severe folio]

if only most people were as good with smite just as much as they shit on assail

[rocky yarrow]

Okay cool

[severe folio]

whenver i see a smite psyker now i just felt like they just take it because they dont like assail

[steel flame]

People gave assail a bad name

[silk hawk]

what do u mean be good with smite? Like holding lmb with specific skill?

xD

[severe folio]

or not shooting smite at like, 1-2 enemies

and kill them

instead of just

steadily stack up the enemies against the squad

because they just

cannot

KILL

ANY

GOD DAMN

THING

[rocky yarrow]

I feel conflicted towards smite

[silk hawk]

i mean people who does that, are probably shooting assail at 2 enemies too, they are bad in general XD

[steel flame]

Slow down my son

[severe folio]

at least if they are shooting assail at 2 enemies

those enemies would be dead

but no

these guys are just

aaaa

they are just

this is worse than shitty assail psyker

this is

[steel flame]

You'll be put in time out by mommy hadron if you keep doing that

[severe folio]

this is psyker that use smite like assail

but somehow press all the wrong button

how fukin hard it is to, lightning the right horde

and killing enemies that you need to kill

[steel flame]

Relax my guy

[severe folio]

how is that so fukin hard

[limber tartan]

Well from my perspective smite main use is not to just hold it on a horde untill you explode

Since when you finish smite all enemies that were affected with it will be knocked down except ogryns

[severe folio]

this blud tried to smite a sniper 😭

and then walk through a horde all around him without smiting

[limber tartan]

Nic

[severe folio]

the time when he should have use it, his useless purple lightning is nowhere to be found

but the time when he should be killing shit with his surge

[silk hawk]

oi! when i am in melee range with a sniper i keep push him for fun

xD

[steel flame]

I love doing that

Just to spite them

[severe folio]

yeah well i love getting plasteel more than that

[silk hawk]

we once had all 4 of us just stand here and push him around XD

[rocky yarrow]

Better than that is hitting them with your staff

[severe folio]

so i rather things dead and die the right way

[silk hawk]

poor boi

[steel flame]

My mindset is that I'm gonna get it all eventually so I just try my hardest in auric maelstrom or chill in auric damnation. Whatever happens happens, and I dont walk away from the game angry

[silk hawk]

dont like auric maelstorm, reward is lacking in my opinion

[still hearth]

The reward

[severe folio]

yeah well i dont have enough time in the day to eventually get what i want

[silk hawk]

i only go there if i need to test new build in action once

[still hearth]

Is to play the funny modifier

[whole oxide]

who plays this game for "reward" ?

[severe folio]

nor the time to tolerate whatever happens happens

[silk hawk]

me

i like rewards

u dont?

[severe folio]

what does that suppose to mean

[whole oxide]

i can write an excel macro for you, where you click button and it makes number go up

very reward

[severe folio]

at which point in whatever i said did anything i said made you ask as if i do not like rewards

[silk hawk]

can i kill heretics on the way in there?

[silk hawk]

not talking to you

[steel flame]

If I win I get enough to upgrade some weapons, if I lose im not slamming my face into the keyboard on discord

[severe folio]

ok

well if i lose i dont get to upgrade some weapon

so in essence if i win i get enough to upgrade some weapon, if i lose i wasted 20 minutes

[idle bay]

If it was fun 20 minutes of action - it's not completely wasted

[glossy ember]

oh this is gonna be fun

[severe folio]

i see

[idle bay]

fun is alos count as reward

[whole oxide]

if you could skip directly to the end and immediately upgrade a weapon, would you consider that better? is the game just a roadblock to weapon upgrades? what a depressing outlook

[severe folio]

well, too bad, it was never fun then

[steel flame]

Ah but if you were having fun and you lost anyway it wasn't wasted was it

[plucky flax]

[glossy ember]

wait

[silk hawk]

dont tell them all secrets at once

[glossy ember]

wtf

[severe folio]

so what makes you never consider the addition of "getting better" but instead its "not playing ?"

[idle bay]

2 stealth zealots - prepare to get all the agro they drop 🙂 So they can record videos of clutches

[severe folio]

not really

[magic hull]

wtf is there more level now i dont understand

[severe folio]

whats the fun in losing

you get nothing

[whole oxide]

because, you said that if you don't get rewards, then the entire time is "wasted"

[severe folio]

and so your solution is to not be involved at all

why not do the same with this conversation then, dont involve in it

[whole oxide]

lol

[severe folio]

lol

[steel flame]

Well anyways I'm gonna go see what the maelstrom is right now, toodles

[silk hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-rickrolled-rickroll-minion-all-gif-18378868569202890477

[idle bay]

True level mod. To see how much someone played his operative

[whole oxide]

again, if you really believe that time spent which doesn't grant reward is "wasted" then you would presumably want a button to insta-skip to the end for reward

because, after all, not pressing that button would be wasting time

[severe folio]

a very weird notion for something like gaming

[whole oxide]

thats exactly my point ^^

[silk hawk]

then i would miss another part of reward, the fuc u talking about?

[severe folio]

same vibe as, if living is so painful, just die

no you idiot the alternative is TO WIN THE GAME

[whole oxide]

why do you keep proving my point

[severe folio]

if theres something to prove about your point is that its shallow as sewage

[silk hawk]

xD

[whole oxide]

what? what reward would you miss?

[rocky yarrow]

The fun

[silk hawk]

u dont know? The "fun"

[whole oxide]

that's exactly the point i'm making

[whole oxide]

that's exactly the point i'm making

[rocky yarrow]

Of course

[silk hawk]

u just said u can make excel with reward and its gona be it

i dont see u making a point here

[whole oxide]

that was "sarcasm"

[silk hawk]

that was stupidity, not a sarcasm

[whole oxide]

i was making the point that you shouldn't only care about rewards, the game is fun in itself

[silk hawk]

lets end that convo, its going nowhere

[whole oxide]

if you keep understanding the exact opposite of what I'm saying, yeah, this is impossible

https://tenor.com/view/po-facepalm-gif-27277915

[desert mirage]

what perks go good on the deimos? i have unyielding already, carapace maybe?

[nova orchid]

Ohhh I love entering a chat and watching crappy arguments

[whole oxide]

people incapable of following basic train of logic

[nova orchid]

So from my understanding their not understanding the concept of playing a game just because the game is fun?

If that is the case then have they played like- Any left 4 dead style game- Heck left 4 dead is still alive just because of the basic fact people find it fun.

[frail sand]

smite/creeping flames/DD is actually so fun in ranged-mostly AM

[frail sand]

wtf fellow proot, impossible

[whole oxide]

"the sky is blue"
"huh, no, the sky is actually blue"
"yes, I just said the sky is blue"
"then why did you say the sky isn't blue"
"no, I said it IS blue"
"ur dumb, u don't know the sky is blue"

[nova orchid]

Why do I see so many protos in the warhammer fandom TwT

[rocky yarrow]

It's more than correlation I like to think

[nova orchid]

I am not even like super deep into warhammer but I still ended up here- I just like the universe a lot and a few of the games

[frail sand]

babi columnus

[desert mirage]

Would 25% unyielding, and 25% carapace be good for a deimos with uncanny?

[whole oxide]

maniac used to be a must-have on deimos, for mutant 1-shot

but I'm not sure if that's necessary anymore, haven't played it much since p13

[gilded ember]

should i get this

[whole oxide]

yes, it's top-tier choice in any build

[glossy ember]

nah they were pretty good

i got carried

[gilded radish]

One way trip too getting blind

[plucky flax]

That's me.

[glossy ember]

were you the master guy

[plucky flax]

Yeah.

ForTheMaster special.

[glossy ember]

big

thought i was doing good but I guess I spent too much time in melee

[frail sand]

is the graia any good

[plucky flax]

It's a cqb map anyway.

I don't like playing psyker on hab dreyko.

[glossy ember]

cqb?

[plucky flax]

Close quarter.

[glossy ember]

oh

[plucky flax]

Short range map.

[glossy ember]

yea

[plucky flax]

Hence why I brought shotgun.

[near wyvern]

Rending caps at +100%, any rending that goes over the 1.0 armour modifier is converted to bonus multiplier with 1/4th of the amount that goes over. But rending caps at +100% regardless.

[near wyvern]

It's inferior to agripinaa and columnus mostly because it gets fucked over by the blessing pool

[orchid shadow]

Trying out Fire Trauma out now that I have a so-so staff. Should I be taking Wildfire with it?

[severe folio]

No

[near wyvern]

25% carapace is not needed, you want 25% maniac instead for that mutant one shot on regular heavy, unyielding + maniac is the best available perk combo for Deimos in this patch

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[severe folio]

why wildfire with it

[orchid shadow]

It feels.. weird. You can definitely tell who's not running a Health bar mod, or the xbox player. I had a whole herd of crushers down to a sliver of health and none of them were targeted down.

[near wyvern]

Get proc on crit, targets die, with any luck you get a couple stacks on new targets and on next proc those are at or close to 6 blaze cap without having to get a double proc

[severe folio]

i see

[whole oxide]

because to kill stuff with soulblaze you need to reach 5+ stacks, 1 crit for blazing spirit won't get that, but add 2-3 stacks from wildfire, and now stuff dies

[limber tartan]

If a weapon is not doing any damage to carapace then just don't take +25% carapace damage because it's just a waste

[plucky flax]

MFW I'm the only high levels in a maelstrom.

[limber tartan]

Applies to all enemy types

[fresh reef]

common lobby these days

[severe folio]

hopefully wildfire will actually add 2-3 stack of blaze on an enemy though

[limber tartan]

People that leave the moment they die are something else entirely

[severe folio]

it happens

[near wyvern]

Deimos is doing damage to Carapace, it's just that:

• you should never ever melee a crusher unless you absolutely have to cause eating an overhead will kill you
• uncanny Deimos can already kill a crusher in a couple L1H2 combos with uncanny strike, +25 carapace allows you to kill it in maybe 1 hit less on a fresh target so the impact it has is very minimal and see the point above

[fresh reef]

honestly? I prefer that to the ones that die repeatedly

had a zealot who did not, at all, understand the concept of coherency

homie ran ahead of us for no good reason, and died

[idle aurora]

Die or get downed? Because 2nd type is just ultra pepega

[fresh reef]

4 times

while refusing to leave

[severe folio]

there isnt a lot of difference between a guy who die 5 times and 5 guys who die a time and swap place to each other

[fresh reef]

I'm still not sure if I respect the commitment or not

[silk hawk]

what if u run purge?

[pine nova]

look at what the Emperor just gave me

[fresh reef]

not particularly, but there's a chance the level 40 zealot could get replaced by a level 300 Ogryn

[severe folio]

they dont get the extra 6th death

[idle aurora]

I would vote kick, sounds like griefing to me

[severe folio]

it would be more saddening that its not griefing

[near wyvern]

If you run purge you kill everything around the crusher first and in case your team haven't handled it/them, then you hopefully apply creeping flames after maxing staff stacks and start to melee the crushers. By the time you are finished with the first one the rest are probably dead anyway.

There is no way you should take the +carapace over mutant one shots and increased DPS against monstrosities.

And uncanny strike is BiS currently

[severe folio]

and more likely

[idle bay]

Speerunners not picking up mats are true griefers. Anyone else are just .. eh

[severe folio]

anyone else are just the traitor among the midst

[idle aurora]

We had a zealot that triggered 2 dh in a row, within 10 minutes, died both times and took 1 teammate. After 2nd time votekick passed under 10 sec

[silk hawk]

i was interested only in first sentence but tnx XD

[idle aurora]

An oggy joined pretty fast and we completed the mission

[fresh reef]

finally, beta peril meter
or at least as close to it as I can get

[severe folio]

its kind of clustering the screen more than the current peril indicator

unless thats your kind of space thing

[silk hawk]

whats wrong with a default one?

[fresh reef]

muh aesthetic

[silk hawk]

i see...

[fresh reef]

it has options for a cleaner ui, one sec

[severe folio]

since i run DS, i always prioritize melee crusher

[silk hawk]

i once saw YT video where the guy had so much shit on his screen that i lost XD

he was playing good thou... but thats pain

[fresh reef]

only issue is I haven't figured out how to change the text color yet, or adjust its thresholds

[tawny cobalt]

fellas i have a hot opinion

scryer's gaze is good

[desert mirage]

Honestly i wonder how teams wipe on heresy, its baffling to me

[plucky flax]

Both vets with plasma (veri op) and they were useless.

[viscid fox]

You can blow your head up to kill stuff that's funny af

[viscid fox]

Low levels unprepared bad gear uncoordinated bad players unexperienced there's many reason

[sour bison]

whats wrong with gamepass ppl?

it was maelstrom auric

[proven raven]

I die on heresy because all the breakpoints are different from Damnation and it's too weird

[desert mirage]

what is this breakpoints i keep hearing about

[proven raven]

it's just how many hits it takes with a weapon to kill/stagger an enemy

[frail sand]

why do ppl keep running off alone in AM

its not even the knife zealots

can we have a teammate leash

[glossy ember]

mfw warpfire is less than 5% of my total damage

trying PC out again

i don't think it's working out for my build, ditched 20% movement speed from scrier for it

[balmy sundial]

Hello Psyker chat, I would like to ask which force sword do you all prefer?

[glossy ember]

illisi for me

[balmy sundial]

i should mention im pairing it with purg staff

[glossy ember]

oh

uhh i think you'd want deimos then

[shell igloo]

@near wyvern I just discovered your guide and want to offer massive props for your contribution to the community

[balmy sundial]

I rolled this in milks shop so I mean, I gotta play purg right

[vagrant cedar]

not bad

[frail field]

nice

[severe folio]

very well rolled

[balmy sundial]

usually milk has garbage with 80 in the dump stat, usually i only buy from him to farm blessings

never seen this good a roll on my characters in his shop

[near wyvern]

Illisi for mainly hordes Deimos for mainly single targets

[idle bay]

Obscures just to hate yourself

[timid fractal]

Does psyker have a good melee horde clear weapon that isnt chainsword

[bleak tulip]

[floral thorn]

read literally two posts up

[timid fractal]

lol my bad, thanks

[plucky flax]

Warpfire is 30% of my damage.

[scarlet moat]

What is our playable Psyker level again?

[idle bay]

It's perfect! Take if for few runs

[scarlet moat]

I mean
The Psyker class
Like Beta gamma etc.

[balmy sundial]

i thought psyker was the alpha class?

[timid fractal]

Doesn't damage stat being so low make it worse?

[idle bay]

That is excatly the point

[timid fractal]

I don't understand

[idle bay]

It's not always about optimization. Sometimes it's in opposite direction for challenge and lulz

Like 4 Psykers run with rule: Only staff bonk damage allowed!

[timid fractal]

lmao fair enough

[kind jay]

69k melee nice

[plucky flax]

[glossy ember]

trauma + shriek?

[plucky flax]

Of course my beloved load out.

[idle bay]

yesterday i took a Trauma staff for 20 minute mission. The Nerve Tick i got from using it's targeting it for that long - is still happening...

Though i admit - Blaze+Nexus Trauma is awesome 🙂

[plucky flax]

[idle bay]

Targeting though is traumatizing

[plucky flax]

Only if you want to long range it.

If you only mid/close range then it's okay. No need for da flick.

[idle bay]

Short range too - too slow for me

[fresh reef]

given that hiding elements on the hud seems to be a non-permanent thing, I've opted to just move the original peril indicator out of the way

[fluid knot]

Is there a mod that changes the whole HUD to the CBT one?

Because that was so much more fitting for the game than what we have now

[viscid matrix]

you can move thing wherever you want
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/10

[fluid knot]

Oh sick, thanks pal, thats ideal

[split oxide]

Do the wall/dome telekine shield both stop snipers?

[viscid matrix]

only if they are not lining you up before the shield is dropped

[idle bay]

Dome stops snipers from targeting completely - they don't shoot dome

[viscid matrix]

if they have lined up, they will shoot and break the shield, ive been hit by a sniper a few times due to it

[frail sand]

some snipers will however 720 no scope you

[idle bay]

But if dome already standing - sniper takes a smoke break

[viscid matrix]

either drop the shield before they start the aiming, or dodge and drop it after, then they wont try

[viscid matrix]

obviously, that part is outside the if they have lined up, they will shoot and break the shield, ive been hit by a sniper a few times due to it

[idle bay]

Anyway: On Vet i can take sniper shot on Damnation without breaking Toughness. On OGryn it's just a chip damage

On Psyker though i wish Deflector Blessing would be able to reflect shiper shot and kill the karkers

[fresh reef]

use this for the colors to match up https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/154?tab=description

[fluid knot]

Star, thanks dude

[idle bay]

I also noticed - since patch 13-14 Snipers are super rare and slow AF.

[fluid knot]

I havent noticed them being rarer, but i have noticed them becoming lobotomy patients

[rocky furnace]

Big dumb dumb poking his head in here, but do the talents that affect soulfire apply to the flame staff?

[fluid knot]

They're stupid as fuck now

[viscid matrix]

yes, both are also considered warp attacks

[idle bay]

Sometimes they take AGES to lineup a single shot

[rocky furnace]

[fluid knot]

Yup, and they now run into melee range like constantly

Trying to get to another person

Fuckin idjits

[idle bay]

I still have memory (long before patch 13) when Spier spawned right behind my character and attacked me in melee instead of shooting 🙂

[fluid knot]

Aye, with their oh so terrifying kick

[idle bay]

Now they can just run past you or pretend that they are poxawalker runing wit ha horde

Why that zombie runing past me have a hood and optics? Whait it's a not a poxwalker! - Happens a lot now

[fluid knot]

I guess they were toned down for the console release, but damn if they havent become one of the stupidest enemies in teh game now

An thats sayin summat when they rank with Bulwarks for smarts

[idle bay]

Dogs also became a minor annoyance. Block push now works 99 hounds out 100. They are only threat when you are busy and they somehow have sound-off.

[hoary charm]

I got a combat knife with both bleed stack perks in melks

Tier 4 both

[idle bay]

Psyker is only class that can stack all 3 types of DoTs in the game on same target: Soulfire, Bleed and Burn 🙂 No one else can

[bold estuary]

hello folks , what is the idea perks/blessing for a demios?

[fresh reef]

very sad you can't achieve max stacks all at once though

imagine 31 soulblaze and 31 burning at the same time

[viscid matrix]

check the guide

has a bunch of suggested builds based on what you want to do
also suggested blessings for each weapon

[left mirage]

i miss unli smite

feels terrible using it now

[idle bay]

You just using it wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrOmLUfNMw4

[viscid matrix]

smite feels good, its very useful for what it does
the unlimited smite was a bug, thats on you for abuseing it

[ornate hamlet]

is the shredder autopistol good

[barren arch]

what do y'all think, is this sword from Melk's goated or is it cringe?

[idle bay]

It's usable. Not complete cringe 🙂

[ornate hamlet]

what melee weapon do you guys recommend for smite psyke

[idle bay]

Still better to gamble with Hardron though

[idle bay]

What do you want to do with your melee?

[ornate hamlet]

kill stuff

[idle bay]

Be more specific

[viscid matrix]

best single target melee weapon is the Dueling MK IV
Deimos is best single target force sword
Illisi is really good cleave

[ornate hamlet]

well I guess smite deals with the hordes right? So whatever will fill the gaps there

like if I need better single target or if I need better utility

[idle bay]

Dueling Sword MK IV is hot stuff now. Then Deimos if you want to one-poke most things and also do boss Damage (tss don't tell anyone).

[ornate hamlet]

ah gotcha

[idle bay]

DS MK IV is very versatile and allows to deal with Ragers/maulers/crushers easily

[viscid matrix]

now?? its been one of the best for a very very long time

[idle bay]

I'm speaking from personal perspective 🙂 I was addicted to Illsi for year

[ornate hamlet]

so Deimos MK IV

[idle bay]

DS = Dueling Sword

[hasty valve]

Anyway in-game or mod that makes the peril meter easier to see? I keep overloading although the meter is red and large 😄

[viscid matrix]

feels like marvelous has me blocked 😄

[left mirage]

eh, it can work if you run shriek ye

talking about using it in the same capacity as bb / assail, just grabbing it to cover a weakness

on its own, it cant deliver enough cc

[idle bay]

And without Shriek it's just best in game CC

[left mirage]

with shriek it buys enough time for your team to kill shit

on its own its not good enough imo

emp should give it around -50 peril gen

so i can use it without having to lock shriek

[fading iris]

I love when I open a yellow box and there is nothing on it

[left mirage]

it really do be like that

[idle bay]

Do Damnation - there are often Large Plasteel in there than not

[fading iris]

I need to get my gear a little bit higher to do that

[desert mirage]

Love how my psyker looks

[fading iris]

keep in Heresy until I make the upgrade, can't have two debuffs at once (gear and my skill)

[left mirage]

ye, try to get one setup online then run damnation with that to farm

its around 700 per win

[idle bay]

Unless you get a speedruner in team then it's 500 (for Damantion !) or even fail.

[fading iris]

I have already build and everything, just need that extra humpf for a little bit of security, at some point Tzeentch will let me get a better role than my current ones

[bold estuary]

behold my i ''blow myself up'' staff

[short mesa]

is psychic vampire or in fire reborn better with purgatus?

[viscid matrix]

bah its perfectly fine, just sit at high peril constantly, and tap quell between every secondary, its good practice to attempt to edge your peril constantly

although i would swap flurry for blazing spirit instead

[viscid matrix]

fire reborn is better, as long as you can make sure you light everything on fire 😄 the spread flame on elite/special kill really makes it work well

[short mesa]

ok thanks 🙂

[bold estuary]

i does have blazing spirit from the start , it just like this staff blow everything up so the DoT dont really help much

[viscid matrix]

go rending shockwave then, will make killing high armoured targets easier

[rocky yarrow]

So I know the point of smite is to incapacitate hordes, but why would you choose that over just killing them?

Idk since I've not used smite before but I wanna get into it

Be a good psyker and all

[fluid knot]

Ideally, you wouldnt

It can work, but its also kinda ass because for the most part, you're expecting your team to do all the killing whilst you blow up a few poxwalkers

Not worth imo

Get much the same effect from Blazing Trauma in such that everything gets CC'd, just dont go dumping AoEs onto allies because it makes thier lives way harder than it needs to be

[rocky yarrow]

Okay

I will continue to annoy my teammates with assail

I'd love brain rupture

If it was faster

[desert mirage]

Jesus, useless teammates boil my piss

[rocky yarrow]

Always true, anyways

[glossy ember]

you only go for it if you or the team is gonna be in a real dire situation

otherwise just kill

it's usefull for other stuff like letting teammates complete some objectives easier

[whole oxide]

idk why people think smite is primarily for hordes

[desert mirage]

psyker sat in the upper room of the servitor colony, did fuck all, then just sat there when ogryn went down, then my other team member, then i blew up cause my vent wasnt on cooldown

[rocky yarrow]

Well I don't plan on being in any dire situations any time soon

[fading iris]

So was your fault for not being a better psyker, got it

[desert mirage]

[still hearth]

EP build go brrr

[rocky yarrow]

Did you try pressing [R]

(as if I don't blow myself up frequently)

[fading iris]

sometimes it happens

it's only a problem if happens too much

[umbral helm]

max wounds psyker purposefully blowing up between every other encounter to clear hordes

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-exterminatus-explosion-nuke-40k-gif-22693290

[rocky yarrow]

Just lie and say you're doing the penance

[fading iris]

I always say that I did the calculations but I'm bad at math or that I had a plan... and it sucked

[ornate hamlet]

which deimos variant

[idle bay]

There is only ONE Deimos

[ornate hamlet]

ooo

[rocky yarrow]

I just say this is why I got kicked out of shadow wizard money gang

[left mirage]

thanks i guess, hadron

[ornate hamlet]

whats soulblaze

[viscid matrix]

the blue fire

[ornate hamlet]

how do I use it

[viscid matrix]

Purgatus staff, or any of the 3 talents that apply it

its just a damage over time warp attack

[ornate hamlet]

is it worth getting?

i use the purple lightrning

[viscid matrix]

Soulblaze is very worth getting, its got decent damage

check the pins for the guide

Pygex is a legend, and wrote the guide that all new psykers should be reading

[olive ember]

eh some things he writes I disagree with tho

so I'd say keep in mind that a guide is just that, a guide

its no lex atoma

[viscid matrix]

its mostly the build suggestions i disagree with, the rest is pretty spot on

[steel flame]

I build very different than he does but it's still a valuable resource for hidden stats and shit

I might ask him if would consider opening a section for community builds

[viscid matrix]

we have #1158835513789272126 tho

[steel flame]

Stuff gets lost in there

[viscid matrix]

true

[feral seal]

Not bad at all

[steel flame]

I'm talking about a few community builds for each weapon type or playstyle

Just so people have a baseline

[feral seal]

Swap rampage for something or change unyield to flak?

[steel flame]

Upgrade rampage to 4

[feral seal]

To 3?

[steel flame]

Foooooooooour

[feral seal]

Oh lol

[steel flame]

You saw nothing

[feral seal]

True I didn't

Thanks

[steel flame]

Unyielding is good against bosses

Flak is just overkill

You are gonna be one shotting everything in flak already

[feral seal]

True yeah

[steel flame]

Important one is maniac

Uncanny negates low penetration

Good swordo

This is the Mk4 that I use

So close to perfection

[feral seal]

Very nice

Crit chance perk is kinda mid right?

[olive ember]

had a team who did zero boss damage

like genuinely dogshit amounts where I did 80% of the damage with an hsword just slowly slapping the boss to death

and we die and the psyker goes "this is why having no BB is bad" like

bruhhh

[steel flame]

I use this with a laspistol crit build based around scrier and ranged immunity with empathic evasion, the 5% keeps me a bit safer from ranged when I dive into melee

[feral seal]

Goootcha

I prefer to run smite/dome and go for team utilityy

[steel flame]

I have builds that do that too

But playing zealot/vet hybrid with psyker is extremely fun

Long as I'm shooting I'm immune to ranged damage so I can just charge gunner and shotgun lines with zero hesitation and take em out before they become a problem for everyone else

[sick veldt]

should I take a revolver or shredded on gun psyker w/ scrier's gaze

[steel flame]

Laspistol

[fading iris]

I can't wait for the double class update

[sick veldt]

hadn't even thought of that but good idea 😄

[steel flame]

Laspistol has base crit chance of 25%

[sick veldt]

goddamn

[steel flame]

30% with perk, and 40% with crit aura and 5% crit node

[sick veldt]

one thing I've been trying to figure out is what blitz I should take? on a gun psyker with dueling sword + gun
i was thinking headpop becuase I'll occasionally get value out of it even when not using it?

because of the passive headpop chance

though that is only every 15s

[ornate hamlet]

what do u guys bind crouch to

[still hearth]

Mouse 4 or Mouse 5

I think Mouse 4 and I have special on Mouse 5

[young meteor]

C, control works too I guess though

[steel flame]

Flayer used to be my go to for gunpsyker before patch 13 to add more damage and provide warp charges, it's still a decent damage spike but I much prefer assail for its great stagger and ability to stack stuff like dumdum and save ammo through clearing trash

This is what I use here, along with my infernus, dumdum laspistol with unyielding and crit chance

Had a buddy that changed assail to smite and really liked it

Kinda slows the pace down a bit to much for my liking though

[ornate hamlet]

omg i was thinking C i dont like control especially for linking slides... C isn't taken up by default huh?>

[young meteor]

No but it's near your thumb that's used for dodge/jump

[steel flame]

I use left ctrl

Makes it easy to slide pinky between sprint and crouch to make slides more fluid

[kind jay]

i bind crouch + dodge to space. do more with less

always be slidin

[steel flame]

How you gonna dodge while crouching

[kind jay]

it does a dodge slide

every time

[ornate hamlet]

ah so ctrl is fine too. maybe ill stick with that\

[steel flame]

If you are already crouched behind something and you need to dodge, you would need to stand up to dodge or crouch again xP

[ornate hamlet]

what force staff do u guys like best

[steel flame]

I'm a trauma person myself

[kind jay]

i mean sure but why are you crouching in place anyways

[ornate hamlet]

what about surge staff?

nomanus mk4

[steel flame]

I enjoy it

[kind jay]

fair

[ornate hamlet]

what about equinox mk3

[whole oxide]

all the staves are perfectly usable, if anyone ever says "don't use xyz" then they're an idiot

[kind jay]

but it works out anyways for me (i do crouch, I'm specifically min height for it)

[whole oxide]

trauma is my go-to as an all-rounder, all the others have gaps against something

[ornate hamlet]

ah ok cool

[steel flame]

From least to favorite it probably goes purgatus-> void -> surge -> blazing spirit Void -> trauma

[ornate hamlet]

ah gotcha

[steel flame]

For me at least

I tend to play fast and purgatus is a bit of a slower play style stave

So I use blazing spirits void or trauma for my fire builds instead

[whole oxide]

purgatus, along with flamer, have been kinda gimped by the pace of the game speeding up since 13

[steel flame]

They aren't bad but you kinda get left behind

[glossy ember]

been having great success dying less to hordes by not mindlessly spamming H1+dodge with illisi, now i actually block attacks

[sick veldt]

Thanks! That an mkiv dueling sword?

[steel flame]

Yea

[olive ember]

smh I'd say bad taste but

[neat summit]

Purg still good. I use it in AM just fine.

[olive ember]

surge -> void -> trauma/purge is the only correct opinion smh

in terms of fun

[waxen abyss]

So theoretically if one wanted to be a gunpsyker

Which gun choice is your favorite?

[olive ember]

favorite or effective?

[sonic coral]

I've been running this with laspistol and mk 4 dueling saber and it absolutely tears ass

[waxen abyss]

So long as not unviable? Hehe.

[olive ember]

well my favorite is recon lasgun

so

uh

[waxen abyss]

I heard recon lasgun is ok for like supporting a melee build for some classes from a friend, is that even true?

[bleak isle]

I use a columnus infantry autogun on my gunpsyker. With scriers gaze up I can kill 6 bulwarks in 1 magazine if I’m shooting them in the back

[sonic coral]

space zorro

[waxen abyss]

Thanks for the replies ;D

[west stream]

cool hat

and ensemble in general

what is it from?

[chrome linden]

how important is blazing spirit?

\

i feel like t4 deflectoer is important too, but i just wanted to check to make sure first

[clear heath]

blazing spirit on force sword sucks

[queen fog]

is nice dot on top ur damage so i like blazing spirit

[clear heath]

you won't crit enough

[chrome linden]

and i assume i cant transfer it to duelling swords if iget it off a force sword

[bleak isle]

Any level of deflector is good

[queen fog]

not a problem when i got purge staff to compliment the flames

but to each their own i guess

[clear heath]

generally it's better to get one of the power blessings like slaughterer or unstable power

or uncanny strike

[chrome linden]

both these are up on sour milk, and im trying to gauge what to pick up.

[queen fog]

oh between the 2?

[frank moat]

Does not transfer to Duelling Sword, no

[queen fog]

deflector for sure

[chrome linden]

i mean. i could get both i guess

can you get deflector on duelling sword?

[clear heath]

no

[chrome linden]

so dont bothr with blazing spirit?

[queen fog]

up to you if u enjoy blocking a bit of shooter fire

[clear heath]

force sword blessings won't transfer to duelling sword at all

[queen fog]

but ya there wont be a blazing spirit or peril related blessings on the dueling swords

[chrome linden]

thats fine, im just making sure weather or not its worth grabbing to have in th bank for later

it all resets in 5 hours anyway so ill have more aquillas soon

[clear heath]

well anyways, blazing spirit isn't very good at the moment. Other blessings tend to be more reliable and help your damage more

if you're rich enough, i guess you could grab it in case they ever buff it

[chrome linden]

nah, im just making sure weather or not its efficent enough ina build to care about. i can always grab it later. just trying on focusing on BIS at the moment

[whole oxide]

they'd have to change how blazing functions on swords to make it good, numbers buffs won't cut it

could be 100 stacks and it'd still be pointless

[clear heath]

deflector is a nice grab, although i personally don't think there's much of a difference between t4 and lower tier deflectors, so if you're poor and already have one, it's not huge priority

[glossy ember]

is it true the blocking efficiency from reflector only affects ranged attacks

[summer prairie]

yes

[glossy ember]

darn

woulda been goated if it was all

[teal needle]

Stamina bars do affect all blocking though I believe. Running a 3 stam curio will make you able to block a fair bit more

[glossy ember]

oh yeah for sure

i've been running blocking efficiency on my curios, it's handy at times

[chrome linden]

as long as i dont overstretch myself, ill be fine for another 2-3 weapons before reset. so i think ill be ok. i like having a little stockpile left over before the reset

[sonic coral]

hat and top are cash shop, cant remember the bottom

[vagrant cedar]

wait wait what reset

[teal needle]

The sunday melk reset

[desert mirage]

is this worth grabbing to fix up perkwise

[tulip trench]

bind crouch and slide to c

[steel flame]

Laspistol

[frosty pasture]

Revolver

[vagrant cedar]

shit perks

[kind jay]

noisy cricket

[limber tartan]

There is some guns you can go with and be efficient but its up to preferance

[idle bay]

Plasmagun or bust.

[desert mirage]

yes thats why I said to fix perks on later

[limber tartan]

I choose the laspistol because it suits my playstyle

[vagrant cedar]

you can only fix 2

unless you can change all 3

[steel flame]

Aim for 21% health

[idle bay]

Only Gun Psyker i see playing - Psyker with Plasmagun

[steel flame]

You can do much better

[glossy ember]

revive speed is probably the least worst choice until you get a better curio

[fallen jetty]

Looking to find three others to group up and take turns doing the malleus monstronum penance for Psycker in which you have to a kill monstrosity using brain burst and gives a legendary torso item. Anyone interested?

[glossy ember]

but i'd save my plasteel for a 19/20% curio

[desert mirage]

ah this is Melk

i have 2,5k and its 950

[steel flame]

Save it

[clear heath]

no

[glossy ember]

nah dont buy it

[frosty pasture]

Remove raking fire and what else?

[desert mirage]

ah ok

[steel flame]

Look for 21% health curios if you want heath

17% if you want toughness

[tulip trench]

is using melee for bosses/crushers viable on pysker? or should i stick to bb + range?

[desert mirage]

health/toughness

[tulip trench]

also what stats am i looking for on Mk4 dueling sword?

[soft hinge]

Does assail darts count as a warp attack?

[steel flame]

You can dump penetration down to 60 if you put uncanny on it

This is what I use here

[tulip trench]

is rampage good on it?

[steel flame]

Very

[tulip trench]

im confused a little bit about the aoe of attacks

it seems even assassin attacks can hit multiple enemies?

when it looks like they should only hit 1

[whole oxide]

you can 100% ignore the "assassin" descriptions and similar

[steel flame]

Before you could trigger it with push attack

[tulip trench]

ok so each attack basically has a small aoe at the end - size dependant on each weapon?

[steel flame]

But they just buffed dueling sword cleave so it can trigger it with lights

[whole oxide]

each attack will hit anything in its path, up to a limit which is specific per weapon and per attack

[idle bay]

Should i just grab that for my Vet ..for collection ?

[whole oxide]

and which the game doesn't tell you what that limit is because fuck you

[tulip trench]

ok is penetration or cleave more important than on dueling?

[steel flame]

Every enemy has a hit mass, weapons have a cleave limit and how many enemies you can hit in a swing is determined be the cleave limit and the hit mass of stuff you are attacking

[whole oxide]

penetration, cleave doesn't do much

[tulip trench]

finesse it most important correct?

[steel flame]

If you put uncanny on your dueling saber you don't need good penetration

The rending completely makes up for it and then some

[tulip trench]

so then between these

this game gives you 0 advice on setting yourself up for end game xD

[whole oxide]

the difference in stats is pretty unimportant, use whichever you roll a good pair of blessings/perks on

[long wharf]

Welcome to Fatshark, whose lead designer said in an interview that he hates players that min-max, and enjoys creating confusing game mechanics just to spite them

[tulip trench]

also is the regular sword worth using on pysker?

[viscid matrix]

check the guide, see what Soulblaze does, see if its worth it for a blessing slot
do you need your weapon to do a tonne of blocking and 100% peril plus stamina isnt enough?

[steel flame]

Neither, keep looking

[tulip trench]

have to use 1 for now lmao

[steel flame]

1

[whole oxide]

if you cant upgrade them, use the one with Uncanny, that's the key blessing

[viscid matrix]

its preference what weapons you use

meta is Dueling Sword MK IV

[glossy ember]

creates a game where minmaxing breakpoints drastically changes how effective weapons are
dislikes minmaxing

[opaque tendon]

minmax this

[viscid matrix]

if he didnt want minmax to exist, he would make everything equally powerful

[brazen warren]

for non force swords, the devilclaw mk4 is great for horde clear but suffers in single target, the dueling swords gain single target but lose horde clear

[long wharf]

Yep boggles the mind how they've managed to create games people actually enjoy

[idle bay]

Happy Foolish Me that ignores existence of Breakpoints and just kills things 🙂

[tulip trench]

ok and one more thing, should i be spamming hordes with surge staff? or only if i see maulers/ragers/crushers/gunners/etc and just sword melee hordes

[viscid matrix]

because the other devs arent braindead like him

[brazen warren]

movesets are preference, but one of the dueling swords heavy attacks are both overheads, which is not as strong as the stab for single target vs armor

[long wharf]

You're gonna get some disagreement from me on that point

[viscid matrix]

😄 lazy yes, braindead not so much

[viscid matrix]

DS IV heavy 1 and 2 is only a stab

[tulip trench]

or should i be surging hordes and meleeing elites

[viscid matrix]

surge is a single target weapon

[tulip trench]

the chain lightning?

[brazen warren]

yes, and one of them is a stab and a diagonal swipe, and the last is two vetical overheads

[viscid matrix]

you talking about smite or surge now?

[tulip trench]

surge staff

[brazen warren]

different sword marks, all dueling swords

[chrome linden]

palpatine for hoard. if ypur teammates cant capatalize on your lightning, then you prolly gonna fail anyway

[glossy ember]

didn't you mention a while back you liked how surge staff killed things in 2 or 3 hits

[viscid matrix]

light attacks are swipes and overheads, but heavy on ds IV is only stab

[tulip trench]

not smite though, surge staff

[brazen warren]

for surge staff, using the ranged attack(not charged attack) as enemies close is fairyl effective if you are aiming for headshots

[idle bay]

If i really cared about it it would +25 % Carapase not Unyelding on my prime staff ( i would have kept rolling)

[chrome linden]

bleh

[viscid matrix]

surge staff is single target damage staff

[glossy ember]

fair enough

[viscid matrix]

unyeilding lets you kill monstrocities faster, they are the dangerous ones anyway

[chrome linden]

if you aint using smite and shield, i question your capability as a psyker

[glossy ember]

I personally don't think carapace is a game changer on surge staff tbh

[viscid matrix]

my assail, scriers gunker says hello

[glossy ember]

dw bro i use smite and ||scrier||

[idle bay]

I got 3 out 4 and .. eh.. will do. I need to roll other weapons too and mats are very limited

[tulip trench]

bb and shield

[chrome linden]

ill forgive you for your lapse in judgement

[fallen osprey]

If you are using smite I quesiton your capability to understand the game

[viscid matrix]

was locked into BB for a year, would rather quit the game than go back to using it

[glossy ember]

I've seen better results without carapace tbh

[idle bay]

Surge do some boss damage with Unyelding, yes... but it does not feel right 🙂

[stable silo]

i run assail and shout because i like throwing rocks and i like screaming to set things on fire

[brazen warren]

I was not refuting your statement in either case, MK 4 DS is two stabs.

[dreamy storm]

bruh people hab different playstyle

[glossy ember]

flak is all you need on it tbh

[dreamy storm]

[idle bay]

Still have not rolled/bought a single 380 surge staff yet...

[brazen warren]

thats what i use

[glossy ember]

based

[faint oriole]

Just got 900k damage in a match with my surge staff build

[glossy ember]

EP keystone?

[glossy ember]

thanks, back to using scrier's with a staff then!

[stable silo]

i mean isnt surge staff still bugged ?

[fallen osprey]

With EP yes, you can play it without EP and it's fine

[long wharf]

surge staff isn't bugged

[idle bay]

Fatshark is.

[tulip trench]

dont you have to take smite skills though?

[hasty valve]

Any way to make the peril meter even more visible?

[fallen osprey]

Im not sure what you mean, you can play surge with any blitz

[fallen osprey]

mods

[spice oar]

Smite and shriek is better what are you on about young man

[split oxide]

(purg/assail) getting effed by 6x charging crushers.
I dunno how to deal with that.

[sick veldt]

uh actually the low warp resistance is GOOD because of warp nexus

[split oxide]

What's with these wierd names?

[sick veldt]

there's a mod that lets you name your weapons

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/181

[rocky yarrow]

Is there much official mod support

[split oxide]

guess not since you cant transfer it anyway

[sick veldt]

no official mod support

[rocky yarrow]

Okay thx

[sick veldt]

but you won't get banned for anything that's client-side only which afaik everything on the nexus is

[chrome linden]

i want a mod that helps find resources

[sick veldt]

nah this game's ultimate skill ceiling is becoming a god at finding plasteel

[glossy ember]

So long as you don't take EP keystones or the +1 lightning smite node you have a no buf surge staff

[sick veldt]

the person who matters most on the team isn't the one doing the most damage, it's the guy finding all the plasteel

[glossy ember]

no bug*

[rocky yarrow]

The fine line between becoming rich and becoming red mist a mile away from teammates is the real game

[sick veldt]

if I found a small plasteel cache but got trapped and died?

it was worth it

and i'd do it again

[rocky yarrow]

If a have to be remembered I want to be remembered rich asf

[long wharf]

true facts

[kind jay]

the best thing is using knife scrier to outrun zealots

no other reason

[desert mirage]

idiot on team aggros DH, i die and another dies

SOMEHOW THE OTHER TWO GET DOGGED

as the ogryn stands firing stationary while the teammate has a dog on him

[waxen abyss]

A shtley

[desert mirage]

until he gets jumped too

fuck me man

they were all 30+ too

[waxen abyss]

Yeah that’s just. A skill issue don’t get a teammate who wakes dh

sorry for your loss

I don’t get how level 30s can wake dh

[desert mirage]

I just dont fucking get how that last part went

the ogryn was just shooting at one spot, while the teammate RIGHT IN VIEW

was getting jumped by dogs

[waxen abyss]

Ogryn role player with rock brain

[desert mirage]

can the person who wakes the DH be the only person who gets killed by it

its unfair that one player being a drooling knuckledragger can also screw over another team member

[limber tartan]

Well you can kite the dh pretty good if you can dodge or find a piece of terrain to run circles around with it

You can pretty much do it indefinitely while blocking and dashing around it