its not listed anywhere in game
#psyker-class
steel flame
steel flame
nothing else has a hidden crit chance muliplier as far as i know
copper jay
what the point of theoricraft a build when 75%+ of the stat a not even in the game and 50% of the stat/talent/ability/blessing don't work or don't work properly
steel flame
surge's boosted crit damage is listed in its stats
copper jay
since he had a crital modifer like "most" crit weapon
steel flame
it takes alot of effort to find everything, just ask pygex
his psyker antheneum is a godam miracle
half that shit had to be data mined
other half had to be tested to death and back
fatshark really sucks at documentation
crystal oxide
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959
Ahhh so Destiny 2 levels of bullshit
steel flame
i was misremembering, the cap is 40% and 60% with scier, thanks for making me look it up again @copper jay
copper jay
fatshark really sucks at documentation
its not even documentation its any information at all
_pinning fire desertion should give power PER TARGET STARGERED but i stack all on one dude
_fanatic dash give rending on first melee hit but if you do'nt melee hit this rending buff work on any dmg (burn dot explosion ranged hit)
_so many talent who just don't work of give hiden buff (momentum)
and .....ho fuck this i go sleep , prey the emperor the next update solve some of them 
long wharf
its not even documentation its any information at all
_pinning fire desertion sh...
you're making the mistake of thinking that these are documentation issues
they are not. they're bugs.
steel flame
Bah, Hadron finally got pissy at my psyker
dear god, what did you do to her poor machines
long wharf
Fatshark devs are basically incompetent
long wharf
I've seen the code. I'm a professional software engineer. I would.
wrong entirely
fun is subjective, and it can be lucked into
steel flame
lets say, entirely incompitent
not entierly incompitent
they really do suck at coding though
that shit is spagetti
im amazed they can fix anything at all
long wharf
that's the problem - they "fix" one thing and break two other things
long wharf
they can't - it's all Lua
lethal swan
Is there anything I can do to fix this force staff?
long wharf
Lua isn't an object oriented language - it's a typeless scripting language
long wharf
yep
I love modding
I generally mod every game I get into
I took a really good look at Darktide's code and said "fuck this, I'm not doing this for free"
ornate hamlet
Fellas, I'm thinking stupidities
long wharf
well, Bethesda hasn't released their creation kit for Starfield yet
ornate hamlet
I want to sacrifice my keystone to get duelist and sainted gunslinger
steel flame
......
steel flame
wrong chat 😛
orchid shadow
Do it do it do it
long wharf
This isn't zealot chat
it is not.
steel flame
man im still recovering from my last maelstrom run, we finished it in 19 minutes and every muscle in my body was tensed the entire time
strong gulch
That's why I haven't gotten into them yet. My skin wants to burn itself to the ground if I sweaty game to hard.
ornate hamlet
Crap, inexorable judgement is too good to pass up 
Getting damage and attack speed with synergy with a bunch of dodge stuff I already have just doesn't get compensated by the funny talents
steel flame
those are definelty words that sound good, havent a clue what any of them mean though, i only have room in my life for psyker
and my beloved
ornate hamlet
Wouldst that mine zeal beth of such caliber as thine presentedth itself in this verily moment
or something
idk i dont speak zealot
worthy dune
crystal oxide
oooookay.
I BELIEVE in las pistol now.
Raking fire and dum dum into the bosses ass
shy hull
Psykers would either be super good at chess
Or bad at it since they're too busy talking to their beloved
steel flame
why not both
cosmic sigil
oooookay.
could you show me what you keep active and inactive on your mod / plugin? Mine is a bit too long and i like your setup
shy hull
they can't multi task
steel flame
Psykers would either be super good at chess
Or bad at it since they're too busy ...
they just swing between both during the course of a match
cosmic sigil
play chess with beloved
steel flame
and the opponent gets confused about when they are playing 4d chess and making terrible moves cause they are talking to their beloved
thick carbon
looks so damn GOOD
brazen warren
scriers gaze and warp siphon
fluid knot
Good lord... there are just some dogass takes in that post i feel embarresed for some of the posters
ornate hamlet
I only take loner to spare points
clear heath
same
ornate hamlet
Still wish I could take benediction or at least beacon without gutting the rest of my shit
steel flame
we've been infiltratered by even more zealots
clearly they they are trying to sus out our heres.....i mean confirming our undying loyalty to the emperor
cosmic sigil
but the keystones..;
clear heath
soon
steel flame
it better be soon
clear heath
it'll come november 2024
steel flame
i wanna go drink in a pub with bonbon
steel flame
it'll come november 2024
that would be funny if it wasnt fatshark
i wouldnt put it past em
fluid knot
the aura itself is lame
Its one of the strongest auras in the game lol
Comparable even to Survivalist
steel flame
necromancer sienna COUGH
clear heath
Comparable even to Survivalist
this can't be serious
coherency regen disables itself when a melee enemy attempts to melee you
fluid knot
this can't be serious
Survivalist cant save games
fluid knot
coherency regen disables itself when a melee enemy *attempts* to melee you
Wrong. Only if they hit you
An like... blocking an dodging is a thing?
crystal oxide
could you show me what you keep active and inactive on your mod / plugin? Mine i...
I removed basically the entirety of the stock scoreboard. And used the latest plugin
Removed a few redundant parts that both stick and plugin had to
clear heath
Wrong. Only if they hit you
We were testing this like 2 days ago actually
Funny enough it only happens when melee enemies do it
Gunners will not pause coherency regen even when they attempt to melee
I haven't tested it with every enemy in the game though
so if anyone finds anything inconsistent with it, lemme know
steel flame
Well it's a bit wierd, I'm not sure which scoreboard is getting stats right cause they tend to disagree with each other
fluid knot
so if anyone finds anything inconsistent with it, lemme know
There are all kinda disparities between an actual mission an what happens in the Psykhanium with Creature Spawner
clear heath
I've seen clips of it happening in game. I could pay more attention to it next time i play the game though just to make sure
fluid knot
Another example being old Voidstrike. You were withheld to the cleave limit in the Psyk' to like 6 or something whereas it was more like 8-10 depending on where you hit enemies in an actual mission
crystal oxide
they can't multi task
Speak for yourself. Having to juggle priority targets for assail, dodging, dodging while quelling. Switching to gun or staves to deal with high value targets, quelling and reloading those too
fluid knot
Personally i think FS have done a pretty good job with Steath in this game
Its not problematic like old Camo Expert, nor is it broken OP
crystal oxide
All while making sure your teammates are not dum dums and you need to pick up their slack
fluid knot
Its a strong ability that combines both support and offensive playstyles
crystal oxide
Psyker is the one class where I am drained by the end of a random damnation run
shy hull
that was a joke lad :)
crystal oxide
Is still having PTSD. Sobs.
fluid knot
Psyker is the one class where I am drained by the end of a random damnation run
If you're putting in the effort to that degree, on any class, respect. Shows you're actually trying
shy hull
and learning
fluid knot
☝️
crystal oxide
Thanks you two. Been only my first few days playing pysker
It's one of my favs now
steel flame
I did one auric maelstrom tonight and that's all I had in me
cosmic sigil
fuck ammo aura, field improv and demo stockpiles are the true heroes
static needle
God-roll?
steel flame
Rando lobbies are fun
steel flame
God-roll?
Could do better, isn't terrible
Really want maxed out burn and cloud radius
Well at least 74% burn for 15 stacks of soulblaze
cobalt granite
Rando lobbies are fun
Yea, makes you think people really are decendants of apes.
strong gulch
Isn't it 76? Either way, high roll.
steel flame
Call it 80 and eat a sandwich
strong gulch
honestly a good call
clear heath
There are all kinda disparities between an actual mission an what happens in the...
Ok is this enough proof then?
I tried to do sedition to test without getting bothered by people, and it turns out people actually run sedition
so i had to go to uprising instead
fluid knot
Ok is this enough proof then?
Are you using the "on dodge gain X% DR" by chance?
clear heath
I am
fluid knot
Hmm... might even be that, because i dont have this issue in my games
clear heath
Do you have any footage?
fluid knot
But also, your toughness started regenning immediately after the dodge, so thats super fuckin weird
clear heath
at this point i'm sick of testing this and i've seen no evidence of the contrary. I swear i've seen this happen in other people's clips from even before patch 13
fluid knot
Do you have any footage?
Uhh, i have a video of playing Zealot, but not anything related to this. If it is happening, its not something ive ever noticed
But still, it doesnt detract from how strong Loner can be if its not being used by a total melon
clear heath
I mean, it helps when you're stealthed at least
but really it's not doing all that much. You get toughness just fine from other sources
plenty of talents give toughness. melee kills too
fluid knot
https://youtu.be/gO5813yXut8?si=PIhinrunK2OrBc5c If you wanna look through that, go nuts
But thats all i got on me at the moment
fluid knot
plenty of talents give toughness. melee kills too
For sure, but its also effected by the "Toughness regen" on curios. So without those, its a fucking snails pace and i would agree at that point it loses usefulness because its not much difference from EWEW, but with it? Whole different kettle of fish
clear heath
https://youtu.be/gO5813yXut8?t=64
First thing i jumped to and i see your regen constantly stopping. Can't be sure exactly what pauses it, but i'm pretty sure loner is helping less than you think
timestamp is 1:04 if the timestamp link didn't work
fluid knot
There are also a bunch of instances where stuff is trying to melee me an it isnt stopping
clear heath
I can't be bothered to look through everything. I'm pretty sure at this point the burden of proof is on claiming it doesn't pause
okay where does it not stop?
also do note that gunners melee doesn't count
fluid knot
Like watch for 10s after the timestamp
clear heath
only melee enemies aggro on you count
fluid knot
Literally hear the dodge audio cue an regen dont stop
fluid knot
Whilst surrounded by melee dudes? I dont think it was lol
the only thing i can attribute the pausing to is when EWEW procs on local enemies
Because thats another form of regen which might well interrupt others
clear heath
wait you have ewew on?
fluid knot
always
clear heath
are you sure it's not just that regening you?
fluid knot
Running without that is dim
Yeah... because on multiple occasions in that im not stood near 3 enemies an still have regen
clear heath
ok so how about the time you ressed the guy and the regen stopped as soon as the pooxwalker got close?
Your health didn't drop and your stamina didn't drop so they didn't actually hit you. The view makes it very clear it's not EWEW regen either
https://youtu.be/gO5813yXut8?t=112
cosmic sigil
Running without that is dim
well, i stopped if I go to the right. It was nice when it was 8,3% instead of 5%
now i prefer having tg on dodge and kill
fluid knot
well, i stopped if I go to the right. It was nice when it was 8,3% instead of 5%
Its free regen regardless, free regen is always goated, even more so when your teammates are down
fluid knot
ok so how about the time you ressed the guy and the regen stopped as soon as the...
Eh, whatever it is, its not enough reason to stop running Loner
Too much clutch potential vs other choices
clear heath
the loner regen really doesn't proc that often. You'd probably have more toughness saved with benediction than you'd have toughness gained from loner
but i mean, whatever. Maybe the other zealot runs benediction anyways
fluid knot
If you play it like a cro-magnon an think it gives you a ticket to play alone all the time, thats a skill issue, nothing to do with the talent
fluid knot
the loner regen really doesn't proc that often. You'd probably have more toughne...
It proc all the time what are you on about? Its literally being two in coherency all the time lol
cosmic sigil
Its free regen regardless, free regen is always goated, even more so when your t...
it's 2 point wasted if i do not go to the left
clear heath
You're not regening all the time
And it's not doing anything if you're actually in coherency
fluid knot
it's 2 point wasted if i do not go to the left
You also get the melee buffs from the skill adjacent, which is also very strong
clear heath
or when you're full
Taking loner is fine. I take it for the points
i just don't think the aura is doing as much as you think it is
fluid knot
And it's not doing anything if you're actually in coherency
Which i am not always, if i have to push a bunch of oppressive enemies, i still have regen, if i get seperated in whatever situation, i still have regen. If i have to carry, i still have regen
clear heath
If you're pushing a bunch of oppressive enemies, the enemies are probably pausing your regen
fluid knot
If you're pushing a bunch of oppressive enemies, the enemies are probably pausin...
Stealth.
ornate hamlet
woah guys look at all this damage i dealt
cosmic sigil
You also get the melee buffs from the skill adjacent, which is also very strong
it's on the next melee attack, it's fine but tbh, caxe and hsword are already overtuned enough
ornate hamlet
i guess crushers have more than 100k hp
fluid knot
Like you can try your best but if you expect me to stop using it when ive played dozens of games with it an been able to clutch a large number of them because you think its not valuable, thats barkin up the wrong tree. The benifits it provides far outweight the negatives and it also means i dont have to babysit others to get a buff, its just always on
clear heath
It's nice when you're stealthed at least, but there's such few situations where this matters.
Especially since you're running EWEW and could probably top up anyways
Or you might kill something out of stealth and get toughness from that
fluid knot
Sure, people dont like it, but they only dont like it till im picking thier ass up out the dirt for the 7th time in the game
fringe tangle
i guess crushers have more than 100k hp
I guess that's what happens when the player Ogryn wears the crusher armour, they just turn into the final boss.
cosmic sigil
in the end it's a matter of point economy, does the benefit of loner and the points saved to take another talent outweighs benediction?
in my buids yes, most of the time
clear heath
I never said taking a build with loner isn't worth it
cosmic sigil
i know
fringe tangle
in the end it's a matter of point economy, does the benefit of loner and the poi...
If you want the skills on the right, sure.
clear heath
I'm just saying it's doing less than you think and saying that it does more than survivalist is insanity
cosmic sigil
true
cosmic sigil
i stopped using chastise with the patch
clear heath
you can make great builds with it
cosmic sigil
only reason to go left is for until death and holy rev most of the time
fluid knot
in the end it's a matter of point economy, does the benefit of loner and the poi...
I dont see either of the other two as worthwhile personally when they have to compete with always counting in coherency
fluid knot
I'm just saying it's doing less than you think and saying that it does more than...
Survivalist doesnt provide you any real clutch potential, it just feeds your team ammo. Sure its broken for balancing, but its usefulness stops as soon as people start dropping
fluid knot
It does work when solo, but you dont need it when solo because noone is picking up ammo because they're all dead
clear heath
It's helped before, but yeah fair, it's not really a clutch tool
fringe tangle
Surv is much better then the 3% damage one ever will be. Movement speed one is ok ig.
fluid knot
All the ammo drops are essentially free at that point
clear heath
what it does do though is let you spam high damage guns for a lot more and prevent more situations where you'd need to clutch
fluid knot
Surv is much better then the 3% damage one ever will be. Movement speed one is o...
Ive yet to work out how the 3% damage aura is actually applied
If its at the end of the damage calculation and is multiplicative, then its very strong, if its base damage, its doodoo
cosmic sigil
i must have a different group, because we do most of our auric mael with no ammo aura and we are fine ammo wise
fluid knot
what it does do though is let you spam high damage guns for a lot more and preve...
Well even thats a bit of a misnomer because a number of guns dont really benifit all that much if you're using your gun constantly
fringe tangle
i must have a different group, because we do most of our auric mael with no ammo...
Depends largely on weapon types, like bolter builds should always take surv, same for plasma.
fluid knot
Survivalist is fuckin goofy with how its entirely based on reserve pool of whatever weapon you're using
Far too much power to some weapons, basically useless on others
fringe tangle
surv with the dog packs mutator is basically infinite ammo mode.
cosmic sigil
well, it's mostly revolver and kickback in our group, and the "lack" of ammo and the one shot bp makes you very frugal
static needle
Do u even need 6 stacks of warp charge?
clear heath
Yeah not every gun cares about it as much. Usually there's at least one person that wants it though.
A lot of the time it's the vet themselves cause they'll build around it
cosmic sigil
you never dakka, so you never waste a bullet
fluid knot
My biggest bugbear with it is that it breaks Scab Melee only
Whats the point in speccing for melee when you have a walking ammo dispenser in a mission with basically zero ranged enemies
fringe tangle
Yeah not every gun cares about it as much. Usually there's at least one person t...
I like it when i'm Ogryn, lets me dakka away without caring about ammo much.
clear heath
I think ogryns also generally want survivalist vets. Most of their weapons are good enough to spam.
me when i play kickback and mindlessly shoot all game
fringe tangle
same
crystal oxide
Pysker and her PDW
fluid knot
Refuse to use Kickback till they fix it tbh
fluid knot
Its so easy its not even fun
cosmic sigil
that's called tactical efficiency
clear heath
Yeah it's nuts right now
fringe tangle
Refuse to use Kickback till they fix it tbh
fix what? it's good weapon.
cosmic sigil
*Pysker and her PDW*
columnus?
clear heath
I only tried it recently and now i'm questioning why all the ogryns i met suck because it's so easy to abuse this
fluid knot
fix what? it's good weapon.
It has a minimum pellet count of 16 and 80% ADMs vs Infested an Unarmoued at any range
cosmic sigil
thats called a balancing issue
you bring a gun in a knife fight 😄
static needle
What staves usually pair well with mk iv duelling sword?
cosmic sigil
the columnus staff
static needle
or what kinda build
fluid knot
They need to gut the minimum pellet count. Sure, it should hit as hard as it does, but not at all ranges
cosmic sigil
and the stub revolver staff
static needle
i want to use staves, so if u cant give a useful reply, dont reply
fringe tangle
They need to gut the minimum pellet count. Sure, it should hit as hard as it doe...
Community testers asked for it iirc, they're probably not going to remove it.
fluid knot
i want to use staves, so if u cant give a useful reply, dont reply
You could always try stuff yourself an not rely on others telling you what is good 😉
fluid knot
Community testers asked for it iirc, they're probably not going to remove it.
They did not.
I've spoken to playtesters about it, an they all agree its stupidly overtuned
static needle
You could always try stuff yourself an not rely on others telling you what is go...
rather not waste time getting boned in game, using something that is not effective
crystal oxide
Yup!
cosmic sigil
i want to use staves, so if u cant give a useful reply, dont reply
ok big guy, you use a duellist sword, what is your horde clear? do you think you'll melee armored type or is it just for the swag?
crystal oxide
Its now my "Rager wants to abuse my butt" gun
fluid knot
rather not waste time getting boned in game, using something that is not effecti...
Maybe best not make smarmy responses when someone is making jokes then 😉
static needle
ok big guy, you use a duellist sword, what is your horde clear? do you think you...
use it for what it excells at, single target i suppose
cosmic sigil
try trauma then
fluid knot
Purgatus is best for horde clear
crystal oxide
Looks nice on the back too
clear heath
What staves usually pair well with mk iv duelling sword?
I'm pretty sure you can make a build with any staff that will work with that sword.
fluid knot
But shit in any scenario that involves range
cosmic sigil
but trauma will help you fuck with crushers and other elites
static needle
wouldnt it be a good idea to run purgatus, brain burst and mk iv sword?
fluid knot
Its faster now than its ever been
static needle
faster than surge staff tho maybe
fluid knot
But you do really have to spec heavily for it
tulip trench
ive been running surge, dueling, empowered bb and doing just fine
when you have another pysker running smite, switch to purge staff
cosmic sigil
you can do a lot with smite ep too
static needle
Good roll?
cosmic sigil
stopping power is dmg...
cosmic sigil
yeah, look at the detail in the overview
static needle
alr
static needle
tru
cosmic sigil
later you can pair it with deadly accurate
fluid knot
If only it didnt require you to hold your shots 😔 Super strong blessing but i hate using it
cosmic sigil
If only it didnt require you to hold your shots 😔 Super strong blessing but i h...
it's fast on vraks
fluid knot
it's fast on vraks
Its the same on most weapons, an sure, the couple of stacks you might get from normal play are useful, but i prefer Headhunter because its much more snapshot friendly
cosmic sigil
no
it's slower on revolver
t4 is 1 stack/0.3s
well vraks can use hh or surgical to ramp up crit rate
i tend to ads a lot so surgical is more rewarding
static needle
Would this be worth buying for the blessing alone?
cosmic sigil
yes
static needle
is the blessing that insane?
cosmic sigil
it's bis on illisi
power is cleave, stagger and dmg
by doing activation + heavy you'll kill fast enough to be at max stacks
then you can spam heavy again or just do lights
and it's for 4.5s... you can dodge, push, move
static needle
wtf is that mission doing up there xD
cosmic sigil
it's pure horde clear and does enough dmg to wreck elites (but it's not single target pure dmg)
good news is that the blessing is also shared with the deimos if you prefer to use it
frail sand
wtf is that mission doing up there xD
highly recommend the ordered missions grid mod
static needle
lol yeah...
dusk sierra
infested for maniac and shred to riposte right?
wooden edge
is there a way to change lightning color? i swear ive seen people with blue instead of pu rple
lucid pewter
is there a way to change lightning color? i swear ive seen people with blue inst...
it's more blue when you use the surge staff
tame venture
Which of the headhunter auto guns is which? I can never remember
desert mirage
i wish it told you the difference between psyker staffs
like i know theres different ones but it doesnt state
thick carbon
the downside of being a melee Psyker: no one thinks you can handle yourself in a horde and kills everything you're about to kill
tame venture
like i know theres different ones but it doesnt state
There's only 4 staves, and tbh only 2 are similar enough to confuse;
Trauma: form an explosive pad
Voidstrike: launch a ball that can pierce, explode, and headshot
Surge: lightning hands. High single target, Chains to a second that takes roughly half of the damage
Purge: it's a flamethrower. LMB for a puff, Rmb for a torrent
desert mirage
the ball one seems most useful
tame venture
It's the most straightforward
thick carbon
don't fall into that trap. they're all good at different things
desert mirage
Aye, i was hoping the lightening would be like smite, as Im using Assail for the weekly bounty thing atm
Im still learning how psyker works
desert mirage
and theres that burn talent that also can spread burn too right
wonder if that stacks
tame venture
It does, but the talent doesn't apply a lot of stacks
desert mirage
is there a "you're starting out heres what to go for talent tree wise" kind of thing anywhere
onyx sentinel
specialist -> carapace damage, precog -> rampage?
onyx sentinel
is there a "you're starting out heres what to go for talent tree wise" kind of t...
check out the steam guide on the pins
gloomy magnet
i prefer the scholar psyker's voiceline, which is steady. Insane psyker's voiceline is full of my beloved, gross
lethal lagoon
Actual heresy.
high trout
Is Malleus Monstronum penance still bugged?
tired knoll
ever seen a crusher quad kill before 
tired knoll
maybe i shouldve put the shield in an actually useful spot
robust sierra
is there any way I can improve the survivability of my psyker? literally one sneeze or salvo from anything instantly removes my toughness and puts me on my feet even with +20% health on my curios
ornate hamlet
could do something like this with a force sword
can take a point off of mind in motion and put it on emphatic evasion
I personally stack toughness curios because I don't want anything getting into my health
hearty spade
is there any way I can improve the survivability of my psyker? literally one sne...
force sword with deflector and shield dome blitz
onyx sentinel
is there any way I can improve the survivability of my psyker? literally one sne...
outside of shield and smite psyker is the most fragile of the three classes. If you're dying to gunners learn to spam sprint/dodge slides and use your staff lmb, it's actually good for surpression now
spice veldt
don't bother playing this game reactively
robust sierra
outside of shield and smite psyker is the most fragile of the three classes. If ...
man I'm not dying to anything specific
I just die to somethings
it doesnt matter what
gunners, hordes, elites
random chance but I'll die to it
so it's not a problem of me and my reaction time or anything
onyx sentinel
what weapons are you using, and what difficulty
robust sierra
I can clearly do well as veteran
robust sierra
what weapons are you using, and what difficulty
ranged
ranges*
typically either on my bb or smite build
bb is trauma staff, illisi sword
smite is surge staff, duelling mk 4 or deimos sword
robust sierra
so it's not a problem of me and my reaction time or anything
it's simply a matter of having toughness the strength of a box of crayons
I get sneezed on and I collapse
it's so fucking painful
of and diff is damnation
or heresy
not auric though I'm not good enough for that
like literally some games I just don't get hit, I'm good enough to block and dodge, avoid fire and keep my health high. But seriously, if it's not a game where I'm carrying by brainbursting all the elites or controlling the horde with smite, I fold like a piece of fucking paper
I'm switching off psyker for the night, it's tiresome dying so much
it's not a "skill issue" I can play high diff on my vet no problems
but yeah I might just be ranting idfk
left mirage
alright i have learned the power of scrier's gaze
i dont think i can go back
that 20% movespeed is like crack cocaine
onyx sentinel
like literally some games I just don't get hit, I'm good enough to block and dod...
Like I said psyker doesn't have good get out of jail cards like other classes do, and the ones we have we can't really spam it and don't provide much self-buff like vet's shout or the invis skills. So just because you can handle high diff on other classes doesn't mean you don't have "skill issue" with psyker, if you wanna use that word lmao. You especially have to react to the melee sound cues because your base toughness is so low you can go down in a blink.
I run trauma + deimos regularly on auric so I kind of get where you're coming from. Trauma is probably his safest staff imo and you can just spam half-charged RMB on your feet during hordes, but again you really have to react to sound cues and swap to melee often. Smite builds I don't like to bring on lower difficulties because the randoms are generally less organized and they don't hit the targets you're smiting.
But not dying is definitely doable, most psykers I see don't bring wound curios to auric runs and neither do I, so the skill ceiling is there, it's just harder than other classes.
glossy ember
that 20% movespeed is like crack cocaine
based
robust sierra
Like I said psyker doesn't have good get out of jail cards like other classes do...
honestly fair point, I find when I play psyker I'm more limited but better at that limitation than other well-rounders, if that makes sense. For instance, running brain burst, sure I can use hordeclear weapons like the illisi or trauma, but I still feel more limited into brain burst with that.
robust sierra
I run trauma + deimos regularly on auric so I kind of get where you're coming fr...
yeah, oftentimes tonight I just couldn't get it out in time before I went down
too much shit happening at once
well thanks for listening to my rant lol
psyker is a good class, I just need practice
and possibly better teams lol
if I might ask, what do you run on your curios?
currently I'm doing 2 20% hp and 1 wound
I could run stamina or toughness
royal ibex
if I might ask, what do you run on your curios?
wound/toughness/health. some people swear by double toughness and health, i like having the extra wound since its spooky having 2 of them. gunner resistance and toughness regen/health are also handy
spice veldt
as a toughness stan i will promote 3x toughness
robust sierra
is that more viable than 20% hp?
clear heath
i like my 2x toughness 1x hp
spice veldt
I'd say it depends on playstyles
I personally don't find myself getting hit too much in melee or getting owned by fire, so I just stack toughness to play more stupidly into ranged enemies
clear heath
yeah i like more toughness generally for the same reasons, but i want some hp so people can't hold me hostage by picking up a grimoire
spice veldt
i will say that it's probably always a good idea to take at least 1x hp curio for hitting breakpoints against snipers and poxbursters
clear heath
21% hp and 1 sniper res curio is just enough for this
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1169630718612213800/sniper_breakpoint.mp4?ex=655f54fe&is=654cdffe&hm=1ded41395bec915eaaca0fbb12645e5bd1b33813421ab3ecffff89d950cff7ee&
yes the 1% matters
spice veldt
and then you get pwned by a bomber nade impacting you
fallow dawn
lol
clear heath
the next time some lunatic stealth zealot reses me in the middle of a sniper gauntlet, i'm ready
worthy scaffold
what else can i add?
onyx sentinel
what else can i add?
can you hit mutant breakpoint without +maniac?
velvet bridge
feral seal
Flak is the other best perk right?
still hearth
Ye
glossy ember
Unyield to flak?
woa
cosmic sigil
as a toughness stan i will promote 3x toughness
What about toughness regen? 
glossy ember
all toughness talents too
spice veldt
What about toughness regen? <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
i personally don't see toughness regen as useful cuz you still breathe toughness out, and the relative amount that you regenerate lowers as you stack more max toughness
glossy ember
behold, toughness psyker
spice veldt
the crackhead keystoneless build https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1163409086277238875/image.png?ex=655b27a5&is=6548b2a5&hm=d88131803c95e1fd6cad34f52b4559142bb08188749e99799b7838b0b809aa40&
225 max toughness
cosmic sigil
Lmao
clear heath
insanity
lunar hollow
more vile sorcery crafted by deranged individuals
clear heath
how well does it actually work?
cosmic sigil
What the fuck is that build
glossy ember
there is a case to make about the 30% toughness from warp charges versus pure toughness no keystone build
glossy ember
but then again you got assail
clear heath
there's no way it's worth it to skip them if you're pathing that far down already right?
spice veldt
you lose out on damage since you're not going into EP or DD
and getting +15 extra toughness at the cost of having to dump 5 points into the left branch without dipping into warp charges is an extremely bad deal
since the left branch's tax nodes are right at the start and you need to get through those for the +15 toughness
still good enough but you may or may not be feeling the lack of damage
depends on how delusional you are
of course this is a build for only the most exquisite of psykers
cosmic sigil
Your probably fine if you play revolver / fsword or dsword
waxen shell
sword of crit
lunar hollow
@spice veldt i am disrupt destinypilled now
spice veldt
yeah i really don't think it's all that bad for its point investment, even if it feels terrible to lose your stacks because of the bugs
umbral helm
I sometimes run what I call a "nostalgic build" that's just all the abilities we had before the talent trees. it's fun to toy around with the old setup in the more modern environment
royal ibex
im becoming destiny pilled recently. this is a fun keystone
desert mirage
I love stunning the whole room with the lightening, only for my ogryn to sit shield locked like an idiot the entire time doing nothing
royal ibex
yeah that sounds about right.
hearty spade
anyone down for doing some psyker penance runs? brain burst monstrosity and dropping enemies off a cliff
olive ember
<@297182781346152448> i am disrupt destinypilled now
did I miss something
is DD actually good now
and holy shit its 5 AM
near wyvern
is DD actually good now
Put one point in it and treat it as increased awareness & bonus toughness and use the movement speed to either engage further or disengage after diving in. Works really well if you have the combat knife to zoom around.
The stacking damage bonus is not worth your attention.
sweet mica
anyone down for doing some psyker penance runs? brain burst monstrosity and drop...
i am curently farming the power up penance myself
hearty spade
i am curently farming the power up penance myself
want to group? 🙂
sweet mica
want to group? 🙂
sure
onyx sentinel
I could run stamina or toughness
You could argue that toughness curios are a trap in damnation because as psyker your toughness gets deleted in 2 melees regardless. Flamers and bombers also spawn every wave on auric+ so it gets depleted instantly anyway. I bring 2 health + stam and haven’t really experimented with anything else
If your issue is that you keep getting your toughness broken maybe experiment with other melee weapons, duelling sword has fantastic mobility for example. Also remember to spam your staff’s left click against gunners to surpress them
olive ember
Put one point in it and treat it as increased awareness & bonus toughness and us...
myeh so melee psyker
olive ember
You could argue that toughness curios are a trap in damnation because as psyker ...
toughness on psyker is fine, just that psykers specifically typically want atleast one health curio to get out of one shot breakpoints for bursters/snipers
I believe the "recommended" is typically like 2 toughness/1 hp or 2 hp/1 toughness, tho I run 2 hp/1 stam for the funny and then play with 90 toughness
onyx sentinel
I believe the "recommended" is typically like 2 toughness/1 hp or 2 hp/1 toughne...
you could also run +5 toughness perks on each curio and get at least 100, pretty sure you can run 2hp/1 stam unironically lmao
olive ember
oh you can
I just run 90 toughness
and works fine for me but I know for most players its a complete meme to run 90 toughness lmao
but toughness stacking is good for scratch damage basically
it what zealots and ogryns use to get so stupid tanky
olive ember
Eh 1 wound is fine as a safety net but imo eventually you want to run no wounds
especially if you aren't going down that often
onyx sentinel
i cant not run 1 wound
the difference is you either have 50% health after res or 66% health - at higher levels if you get downed more than twice regularly between medicaes you might wanna practice staying alive more.
olive ember
I hate the greying effect of being on one wound tho
onyx sentinel
but yea ig if you're doing regular heresy/damnation it's fine
olive ember
and I'm too lazy to download mods kekw
umbral helm
in other words the age old adage from Soulsborne of "git gud, lmao"
olive ember
tho tbh curios on psyker are kinda just QOL besides the first health curio
the first health curio helps get out of sniper and burster one shots but past that its all just wte you like the most really
tho I will mald if I see a health/wound/wound psyker in my game
onyx sentinel
the first health curio helps get out of sniper and burster one shots but past th...
poxes one shot psykers without curios? lol
olive ember
pretty sure I've seen a clip of that but maybe I'm misremembering
near wyvern
myeh so melee psyker
There is no such thing as melee psyker, combat knife is mainly a mobility stick
olive ember
smh illisi psyker ;-;
tho honestly if I wanted to run a melee psyker it would be a claw probably
idk tho
umbral helm
good ol stat sticks
was funny, in Dead Frontier that was occasionally literal since you could get a 2x4 as a melee weapon
old citrus
Assuming Purgatus BiS is Flurry/Nexus whats the perks then? Flak?
olive ember
flak + maniac/unyielding/crit chance
iirc
maniac mainly for ragers (burning down mutants is kinda E and you don't need the extra damage against trappers and flamers)
unyielding mainly for boss damage, and I guess bulwarks in a mixed horde? (again idk why you would be using purge against reapers)
crit chance is like a ~10% damage boost (assuming the person I heard from did the math correctly)
old citrus
Crit adds an extra burnstack right?
olive ember
yes
old citrus
Gotcha gotcha, thank you.
olive ember
which also means that the "10% damage" is only rly good on tougher enemies
umbral helm
funny yellow number mean more brain fire
olive ember
where the burn stack matters
split oxide
Telekine Shields.. they both stop snipers right?
Wall stuns but that's about all?
plucky flax
Crit chance also boost the direct damage. It does 20 now it used to be 11.
olive ember
Telekine Shields.. they both stop snipers right?
Wall stuns but that's about all...
both stop snipers, dome lasts longer and regens toughness etc. in the dome, walls get 2 charges and can stop specialists
I believe dome is also tankier than an individual wall, as in it can take more shots
silk hawk
so i tested ds4....
and its horde clear capability sux
although its heavies are stronger indeed
but if u need something to deal with hordes i still think mk2 is better choice
olive ember
if you need to deal with hordes use staff
silk hawk
i am surge user
olive ember
if you are using surge staff lmao imagine using surge staff
plucky flax
Do you have rampage on your sword?
olive ember
if you are using surge staff probably bring a proper horde clear weapon imo
like claw or illisi
eh
rampage is bugged tbh so it won't be as strong when it gets fixed
I also hate push attacking to get a fucking rampage proc
silk hawk
ye... on mk 2 its fina but on mk4 i kinda sux i must admit
near wyvern
@silk hawk if you use surge you gotta either have a horde clear melee (Illisi or Devil's Claw 4) or use smite
olive ember
fucking smite
silk hawk
<@326330218220486656> if you use surge you gotta either have a horde clear melee...
i currently switched to ass sale
olive ember
visual disgust
silk hawk
even thou i dislike that boring shit so much
olive ember
eh none of the psyker blitz abilities are particularly interesting
assail is spam lmb
BB is BB
smite is literally just stand there and do nothing
silk hawk
smite is literally just stand there and do nothing
and force all enemies excluding bosses to do the same XD
near wyvern
assail is spam lmb
The RMB is actually decent now. I use it with DD to apply speed boost
plucky flax
I am handcannon assail enjoyer.
olive ember
i still don't know why they fucking chose to damage rebalancing as the "nerf"
instead of what everyone was saying about its capacity and recharge rate
¯_(ツ)_/¯
plucky flax
silk hawk
i d rather wanted to see assail has less charges and/or spam speed but more per spike dmg on lmb
glossy ember
you could also run +5 toughness perks on each curio and get at least 100, pretty...
ye i've been running that forever
104 toughness 242 hp
olive ember
I'm psure assail is supposed to be a quickswap weapon, atleast thats the impression I had when it was datamined as "knives" way back, and also with how the tracking still works when you swap off assail
but then they made it so that the best way to use the thing is to spam all 10 shards at once into a group of shotgunners
olive ember
yes
fickle onyx
DMmit
olive ember
well does the achievement say use BB?
instead of BR?
cuz haha those aren't the same thing and they haven't fixed the penances yet
fickle onyx
Yeah
silk hawk
instead of BR?
but also BR description says its enhanced BB, so fatsharks are just goofballs again
olive ember
I forget the exact reasoning but basically in code brain burst and brain rupture are two separate abilities iirc
correct me if I'm wrong but basically once you upgrade to BR it's basically an ability swap
but then idek because fucking the CDR aura is bugged
silk hawk
i have feeling that FS has like 2 different squads of coders that did darktide before patch 13 and after....
olive ember
so the base CDR aura is 7.5% and the upgraded version is 10%
but if you take the upgraded version you actually get both auras
so you just have a flat 17.5% CDR
potent echo
tech debt
fickle onyx
i have feeling that FS has like 2 different squads of coders that did darktide b...
Thats some fs warp fucery
I hate this
near wyvern
i still don't know why they fucking chose to damage rebalancing as the "nerf"
After too many hours with Psylot build I can see what they are after. They want you to be able to weave between guns/melee and Assails with that Malefic Momentum which really adds up. However you are still mostly limited by peril and not the actual shards.
IMO they should further reduce the damage of LMB as it is way too effective in killing elites and reduce the stagger on it while increasing the numbers of targets that are hit to make it more of an AOE damage tool. For RMB they need to make the cast a lot faster, you will anyways be gated by the peril but you could use it to damage elites and stagger them.
Currently, the staggers on LMB are way too strong, people don't even realize it but they just perma stagger everything else than Ogryns and Maulers but you can open up Bulwakrs with them.
potent echo
the whole gun/assail thing puzzles me though
fickle onyx
Does power up penance work with upgraded bb?
potent echo
they cover each other's job so much
silk hawk
Does power up penance work with upgraded bb?
yes
fickle onyx
Thank god
plucky flax
they cover each other's job so much
That's why you use handcannon revolver and just spam assail.
near wyvern
i have feeling that FS has like 2 different squads of coders that did darktide b...
They have at least two different build pipelines; before patch 13 every update brought back bugs that were fixed by the previous update. Although it seems they were working on patch 13 all that time as well so hopefully they now have a better pipeline as they can finally be working on one version of the game
olive ember
idk I think the entire right tree is kinda whack, scriers gaze feels just super jank imo, assail is strong but doesn't fit "gun psyker" theme that much which how its used, DD is eh?, and the entire right side is all crit stuff that works best with like voidstrike rather than a gun imo
olive ember
They have at least two different build pipelines; before patch 13 every update b...
mfw the illisi and deimos used the force sword profile from the beta test, which had deflector built in by default
potent echo
lmao i remember that
olive ember
I still think deflector should be built in by default idk why you gotta sacrifice damage for utility that is only kinda useful
onyx sentinel
They have at least two different build pipelines; before patch 13 every update b...
kid named rebase
near wyvern
they cover each other's job so much
That's the point. You get ammo sustain through Assails and then your melee and ranged are choices where other one focuses on horde and the other on beefier targets, Assail is always the middle ground and stagger/toughness gen tool.
potent echo
the fact that assail struggles against armor means you should run an anti-armor ranged
olive ember
thats literally just the revolver kekw
potent echo
in psykers case thats only revolver
near wyvern
the fact that assail struggles against armor means you should run an anti-armor ...
I use anti armour melee
glossy ember
I still think deflector should be built in by default idk why you gotta sacrific...
i guess it's the idea of wanting only one extra special gimmick per weapon?
potent echo
yea then what does your gun do
silk hawk
thats literally just the revolver kekw
thats surge xD
olive ember
surge staff is just a worse revolver
wet belfry
Theres three main things i want for scriers to have.
Be able to reduce its cooldown while active.
Have the 1% damage that grows over time to 30% apply while scriers is active.
Be able to exit scriers whenever as a psyker.
olive ember
¯_(ツ)_/¯
potent echo
ends up being melee/assail, gun comes out when you are feeling cute idk might shoot more later
olive ember
3 charges to kill vs 3 shots to kill, gotta quell constantly vs revolvers reload
near wyvern
yea then what does your gun do
Eats all soft elites and specials and horde damage
glossy ember
Theres three main things i want for scriers to have.
Be able to reduce its cool...
cooldown ticking while mid scrier would be nice too
oh
i can't fucking read
olive ember
Scrier should have its CD tick by default
potent echo
i most well rounded gunker i found was
uncanny melee
IAG/laspistol
smite + creeping flames
that feels like a gunmage
olive ember
they fucking made vet ult do that again
so why can't scrier do that
scrier even has the fucking extra mechanic of peril
so why does vet exe stance tick but not scrier
near wyvern
i most well rounded gunker i found was
uncanny melee
IAG/laspistol
smite + cree...
I use Columnus and combat blade with uncanny, Assail with creeping flames
fickle onyx
For power up penance I need to get warp siphon?
silk hawk
For power up penance I need to get warp siphon?
obviously 🙂
fickle onyx
🥹
slow raven
i do like scriers with guns but idk, many games i kind of regret taking it since you often get so little use out of it
glossy ember
well it's a free damage increase
slow raven
like when it's up you're slaying for sure, but it's so short it can be hard to feel as impactful as a good creeping flames or a dome/shield
and the clutch ability seems really low compared to creeping flames, you cant handle a massive mixed horde solo like you can with creeping flames
i still like the ability but it seems to fit better in a premade
and creeping flames is better for pubbing where you hve to assume youre soloing a mixed horde at some point
glossy ember
i'd argue shield probably the best for pugging
slow raven
also i love how venting shriek can easily refresh DD through walls, i still like DD with guns
slow raven
i'd argue shield probably the best for pugging
or dome, that toughness regen is very very good
silk hawk
i'd argue shield probably the best for pugging
if u solo a mixed horde u need to kite, they will not let u stand under dome that way or another
left mirage
after playing dd
i understand
its so close to being good
but its shit
because of one simple reason: all of your stacks disappear once it times out
ornate hamlet
What's a good staff to use with assail? New to the game
left mirage
literally just one change makes it really good: make stacks decay one by one
left mirage
What's a good staff to use with assail? New to the game
any of them lmao
frank moat
Triggers my old Warp Charges trauma 
left mirage
surge handles armor, voidstrike staggers armor / bosses and can handle long range
silk hawk
What's a good staff to use with assail? New to the game
ds4 and staff of your choice
ornate hamlet
ok, thanks : )
left mirage
they could band-aid fix it by allowing it to target chaff
because it (DD) doesnt
it only picks up elites / shooters
havent seen it pickup a spec
pretty sad, but the buffs are pretty damn noticable when they are up
so idk
glossy ember
if u solo a mixed horde u need to kite, they will not let u stand under dome tha...
in that scenario yeah
slow raven
yeah it would help the frustration factor if it didnt often insist on targeting shooters who love to run away and take cover and then run away even further from you so that it's just impossible to get to them while your cooldown is ticking donw
potent echo
Shield trauma works but your team needs to kill shooters, which they wont
So I run shield void
And kill the shooters while team handles horde
silk hawk
in that scenario yeah
so when u go pub, u automatically assume that at some moment u gona be fighting a mixed horde solo, and build from that point 🙂
potent echo
Yea just assume you have 3 meatshields
left mirage
yeah it would help the frustration factor if it didnt often insist on targeting ...
they should allow it to target everything, nerf duration down to around 7s base, 15 with the node
i would love that
target everything but bosses* obvs
or allow kills in coherency to count
glossy ember
so when u go pub, u automatically assume that at some moment u gona be fighting ...
damn that's kinda sad
olive ember
shriek is probably the best in general, cuz its AOE push, its quelling, its hordeclear/dot application if you take the thingy
potent echo
Scrier is there to get yellow numbers
wet belfry
Im willing to go as far as to say that scriers is probably the weakest abillty in the game right now
olive ember
it is
olive ember
zealot abilities are all good
vets shout is on demand toughness and CC, exe is just better scriers, and stealth is good utility
glossy ember
which looks better
first one because nice hairstyle
glossy ember
Scrier is there to get yellow numbers
if only hp mod would let me see those sweet yellow numbers though
olive ember
"side-grade" lmao
lunar hollow
if u dont like scriers ur just not using one of the like 2 guns that really benefits from it
potent echo
I mean at the end, on the scoreboard
lunar hollow
iag/laspistol get fuckin JUICED from the finesse damage/crit chance
left mirage
yeah, scrier's hampers build diversity which is the thing i dont like about it
lunar hollow
i would take scriers over exe stance any day for a laspistol
left mirage
its really good with the right setup
potent echo
Yea if scrier can last forever, maybe there can be an argument
left mirage
but you only get that setup
olive ember
well I guess for the las pistol yes
left mirage
it gives the laspistol the one thing psyker doesnt have, boss dmg
lunar hollow
but like if ur using weaps with shit finesse and going "scriers bad"... yeah, it's a way more build-dependent ult
because theyve kinda pigeonholed it into synergizing with non-warp weapons
although @feral verge has put in work with a scriers purg build
(deranged)
potent echo
I tried to do it early on but it's really underwhelming
glossy ember
the movement speed is very handy
lunar hollow
people shit on scriers unnecessarily
theres problems with it but its not terrible by any means
potent echo
Gaze purg is mainly for shotgunner patrols
glossy ember
and the crit lets me take care of squad of gunners fast
lunar hollow
the meta has shifted from whatever gives u the biggest power blessing to more finesse stuff
lunar hollow
laspistol/iag are super cracked rn
potent echo
Yea but you actually need to go for headshots, wow gameplay
lunar hollow
horrible i know
glossy ember
just play melee scrier, no aiming required 
potent echo
You still need to aim heads though
onyx sentinel
the meta has shifted from whatever gives u the biggest power blessing to more fi...
for gunker do people not take scrier's by default anyway, I thought the point was that it's not as good for everything else
glossy ember
Gunners get suppressed
true but funny warp stacks real fast
glossy ember
You still need to aim heads though
just pick the right height, no more needing to aim
desert mirage
hell yea
rocky yarrow
not sure wether to go with improved psyionics or warp siphon
desert mirage
I like the mad max leg brace
potent echo
Is that the new premium cosmetic?
silk hawk
not sure wether to go with improved psyionics or warp siphon
if you want to spam alot of your staff u want siphon...
olive ember
although <@253355223400185867> has put in work with a scriers purg build
🤔 I kinda wanna see this shit
rocky yarrow
okay
olive ember
@feral verge hmu
glossy ember
although <@253355223400185867> has put in work with a scriers purg build
wait another staff scrier enjoyer?
based
olive ember
i haven't touched psyker in a bit give me that cursed ass build to liven things up
silk hawk
ilisi is good at clearing hordes mixed with ragers and shit?
plucky flax
Why is my game stuttering? My pc dying? 
glossy ember
have you changed your purity seals recently
near wyvern
The problem with Scrier's Purge is that you get more horde damage that you don't really need. Sure, your monstrosity damage goes up a bit as well but you could just diversify a bit too achieve more. Even taking creeping flames gives you more CC while still providing some burst damage and monstrosity damage.
near wyvern
Why is my game stuttering? My pc dying? <a:nooooo:971102259490476083>
Had some weird stutters and hit registration yesterday when I played so hamsters might be just under fed
plucky flax
Ever since yesterday I keep getting micro stutters.
During a game in progress.
It's so annoying.
glossy ember
i haven't touched psyker in a bit give me that cursed ass build to liven things ...
||want my surge staff scrier build? 
||
static needle
What are the important/dump stats for purgatus staff?
olive ember
||want my surge staff scrier build? <:staregryn:1022085083844325376> ||
uh I hate surge staff so uh
no thx
olive ember
What are the important/dump stats for purgatus staff?
burn 76+ and cloud radius 80
everything else is more or less a dump stat tho I would say quell speed is the one you want to dump the most
static needle
everything else is more or less a dump stat tho I would say quell speed is the o...
lol
done, chief
xD
glossy ember
that might be just a little bit too much of a dump
plucky flax
Shield ogryn moment
static needle
xDDDD
olive ember
lol
I mean
uh
ah rip the burn is only 74
thats a 10% damage loss right there
don't you love breakpoints
static needle
This good? @olive ember
left mirage
the tankier ones, bucketheads and hot topic flak jackets
it just doesnt highlight them
lord knows why
olive ember
id just take warp nexus 4 off the staff and get a better one
static needle
stats and perks are trash
bruh how does 10% radius make that big a differance
left mirage
burn needs to be around 76
static needle
id just take warp nexus 4 off the staff and get a better one
hows that any good? this staff is for CC and horde killing
olive ember
its the 67% burn
left mirage
cloud needs to be max
olive ember
purge is not a CC staff
left mirage
the rest arent as important
static needle
purge is not a CC staff
wot
static needle
alr alr
left mirage
unironically you can feel the difference between a 76 and above purg and a lower one
static needle
trauma playstyle is kinda annoying tho hahah
left mirage
the ticks are significantly worse
static needle
how much burn does it need
left mirage
76 and above
olive ember
idr who did the math but they said the difference between 75 and 76 was like 10% damage
olive ember
cloud radius affects how much shit you hit with the flame cone so you want that maxed out if necessary
and then you want 76 burn
static needle
this?
left mirage
burn and cloud are mandatory 80
static needle
bruv
left mirage
damage isnt as important, res and quell are dump (kinda)
static needle
yall are picky af
left mirage
its pretty fucked, i cant think of any other weapon that needs to be min maxed apart from purg / blaze trauma
winter siren
this?
damage isnt the best as it only affect initial hit, not the ticks. cloud and burn are prio
static needle
shit roll or god?
olive ember
yall are picky af
eh what happens when we have nothing to do besides min maxing with this shitty fucking gacha/looter shooter gearing system
static needle
fair enough
hoary halo
Whats a good Illisi sword? This is my current one
olive ember
Whats a good Illisi sword? This is my current one
swap deflector for unstable
oh wait
static needle
Whats a good Illisi sword? This is my current one
whats the crit bonus for illisi?
olive ember
you want flak/maniac iirc and then unstable power + some other blessing
slaughterer got nerfed but I think its still good on illisi, just that its relegated to 2nd blessing status now over unstable power
hoary halo
I have no idea what the crit bonus is.
olive ember
eh idr what it does but its important
the dump stats for illisi is warp res and mobility
actually I'll just give you this guys guide
hoary halo
I like it becuase of hordes.
olive ember
I'm not particularly sure why he chose slaughterer over unstable but eh
shadow onyx
is riposte worth on deimos ?
olive ember
static needle
I'm not particularly sure why he chose slaughterer over unstable but eh
cause u can one hit basic horde dudes
i think??
olive ember
is riposte worth on deimos ?
ehh? its not bad
but its also not that good
cuz uncanny and then you want one of the power blessings iirc
idle bay
I feel like i miss Illsi from time to time iafter i switched to DS. I even tried to block shots from gunner just out of habbit with DS 🙂
olive ember
lmao yeah I do that too
idle bay
I mean most of the time i do not need Deflector anymore due to Empathic Dodge
But there are some moments when i'm bare naked
hoary halo
Well before the shield power, deflector was great.
static needle
Is terrifying barrage only bad compared to the other stuff?
grim halo
which looks better
Deimos, Aridin looks too similar to my IRL face mask for work (no silicosis or weird lung tumors for me thx)
onyx sentinel
has anyone ever calculated whether a decent rolled blazing trauma outdamages brain burst for monstrosities?
bleak tulip
that staff is good tho
onyx sentinel
feels detrimental to always swap to bb during maelstorm runs
shadow onyx
i will cope and keep all blessings, changing only perjs
onyx sentinel
esp when a horde is always on top of your team
idle bay
im depressed man,
Oh my.... that is THE weapon skin. From aqila store or mod?
bleak tulip
probably with soulblaze
shadow onyx
Oh my.... that is THE weapon skin. From aqila store or mod?
mod
bleak tulip
yeah
static needle
i think im beginning to realize how big of a c**k tease this entire endgame grind is
bleak tulip
iirc trauma does explosive damage so at least you'll be shitting on bonbon
olive ember
i think im beginning to realize how big of a c**k tease this entire endgame grin...
Welcome do you like looter shooter crafting system in your horde shooter?
shadow onyx
i think im beginning to realize how big of a c**k tease this entire endgame grin...
the longest mass edging of history
olive ember
No like seriously if you’ve ever played the division 2
static needle
i think im beginning to realize how big of a c**k tease this entire endgame grin...
this is warframe levels of rng redarted
frail sand
man i dont get these ppl who dont use medipack/ammopack in AM
olive ember
The “crafting” system of darktide might as well have been straight up lifted from it
It’s worse than warframe
bleak tulip
i think im beginning to realize how big of a c**k tease this entire endgame grin...
the staff you showed is great tho wdym
olive ember
Warframe atleast the weapons don’t have rng stats
bleak tulip
just change out terrifying
static needle
Warframe atleast the weapons don’t have rng stats
hahahah
yep
this game is kinda the worst of both worlds in that sense
idle bay
Looter chooters... ah..
I still traumitized by Anthem. So much hope CRUSHED
olive ember
Here’s the thing
static needle
the staff you showed is great tho wdym
i knoooow i just hate having to always rely on rng like this its hella dumb
olive ember
In looter shooters it’s in the name you get a bunch of fucking loot
frail sand
im thinking to keybind something to shout "PLACE MEDIPACK"
static needle
i should be able to spend in game currency to increase my chances
olive ember
In darktide you don’t get shit
static needle
In looter shooters it’s in the name you get a bunch of fucking loot
that doesnt excuse this system being badly implemented
olive ember
It takes like 2-3 games depending on rng to get enough material to roll for one gold weapon
idle bay
In darktide you don’t get shit
Incorrrect - In Darktide you get shit! 🙂
olive ember
But yeah darktide crafting system is amazing
And this is the new and improved crafting system
The original from launch was
Well there was no crafting at launch
bleak tulip
idk maybe I'm just inhumanly lucky but I got like two weapons on each class to be able to complete aurics with in the last two weeks, if you're not intent on getting that last 1% you don't need you can get near perfect weapons pretty easy
olive ember
And then their original plans was worse than what we had now
static needle
Well there was no crafting at launch
bleak tulip
if you want the perfect god roll on everything you're gonna mald tho if course
olive ember
Well yes but you could complete aurics with greys if you were good enough
So yeah I wanna min max smh
static needle
does hi intensite modifier give more plasteel and shiz
olive ember
Lmao no
bleak tulip
no
olive ember
Modifiers give more gold/dockets and EXP
frail sand
AM gives most exp right
bleak tulip
damnation has a 805 cap that's you barely reach with pubs anyway unless you do all the work
near wyvern
does hi intensite modifier give more plasteel and shiz
No, more xp (lmao) and more dockets
frail sand
i need the dockets so not complaining
idle bay
Modifiers give more gold/dockets and ***EXP***
Insiginificant bonus though
bleak tulip
AM sometimes gives the most XP yeah, usually
olive ember
damnation has a 805 cap that's you barely reach with pubs anyway unless you do a...
It’s not even worth doing that half the time because of the time wasted looking for scrap
idle bay
What is the point of EXP after 30? Only for true level mod - that allows some phalometrics
bleak tulip
idk getting a full consecrate every two missions seems fine to me personally
olive ember
Eh the layers and layers of rng gets annoying
bleak tulip
especially since you get blessing donors every complete
olive ember
It’s better now that the currency is shared
bleak tulip
yesh
olive ember
But the crafting system unironically turned me off from playing before cuz I would be bored with psyker but I didn’t want to waste time gearing up alt classes
potent echo
It's not the worst if you are levelling new classes
But new players won't be playing on damnation
olive ember
You shouldn’t be interacting with the crafting at all unless you are 30 tho kekw
bleak tulip
I finished leveling ogryn and get since 13 and got em weapons, it's not so bad unless you want perfection
obtuse moth
brunt is still nice tho
olive ember
Brunt is kinda aids but it’s better than what we had before
near wyvern
You shouldn’t be interacting with the crafting at all unless you are 30 tho kekw
You can if you have previous characters to slap on some BiS blessings
potent echo
Yea if you are fine with 2/4 weapons
olive ember
Which was the hourly shop
bleak tulip
yeah you can even spend your useless money on greys now
potent echo
But chasing those 4/4 with perfect rolls man
obtuse moth
for sub30 i think its a godsend
potent echo
There's where you use your excess plasteel I guess
olive ember
You can if you have previous characters to slap on some BiS blessings
I guess but that’s still a waste because you don’t get good stat weapons until 30
frail sand
okay this is getting out of hand, im getting 2 consecutive AM missions where ppl don't drop medipacks
bleak tulip
maybe it's just my gambling immunity that I'd don't feel like I even care about the perfect roll lmao
maybe I'm the weird obe
obtuse moth
<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163> I guess but that’s still a waste because you ...
slaughterer or pinning fire was huge QoL leveling alts personally
olive ember
I wish brunt’s gave you higher tier weapons once you’ve beaten like all Damnation missions or wte the fuck
near wyvern
<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163> I guess but that’s still a waste because you ...
Not really, lower base rating weapons are super cheap to slap a blessing on and upgrade a couple times. The crafting costs scale with the weapon ratings.
frail sand
why do ppl save medipacks for the next mission
olive ember
Like make the min item level 350 or some shit why I am I getting 330’s
glossy ember
this weapon is just so fun man, although kinda on the fence about that unyielding but at least it ain't an awful roll
potent echo
Some weapons I'm fine with suboptimal, but those I like I would want a near perfect one, but I also have 800 hours so I can spend plasteel freely
olive ember
Thammer is notorious for wanting like perfect stats
near wyvern
Upgrading a weapon at lvl 20 to allow you to push damnation is not a waste, you get the mats back after a couple missions anyway and are on your way to 30 a lot faster.
potent echo
Thrust 3 and thrust 4 is a huge difference
frank moat
Drives me nuts that the players that are most likely to only drop the medpack on evac are the most likely to ninja the medpack out of the crate
idle bay
@near wyvern I've seem Columnus mentioned quite a lot of times for Gunker .... So what are recommended perks and blessings?
olive ember
I’m pretty sure there was a gun that needed like 80/80 damage + pen and then 4/4 stats to be able to one shot crushers without needing +carapace
Probably the plasma gun
near wyvern
<@345531303942291457> I've seem Columnus mentioned quite a lot of times for Gun...
Into the Atheneum you shall go
frail sand
Drives me nuts that the players that are most likely to only drop the medpack on...
this assumes the team makes it to the dropship lmao
obtuse moth
<a:INSANECAT:1084692371444346921> why do ppl save medipacks for the next mission
i usually save medkits for the end fwiw
olive ember
Eh I drop medpack on evac for achievement progress 
Tho I also only rly drop medpack if I think the team needs it
obtuse moth
yeah ammo amd medpac on evac is for cheivo progress, waste not to do it
olive ember
So if one guy is almost dead sucks to be him the rest of the team is fine
bleak tulip
I’m pretty sure there was a gun that needed like 80/80 damage + pen and then 4/4...
now you have do many knobs you can turn that I don't think that's a thing anymore at all no? like you could probably adjust like one talent now
