psyker-class

[steel flame]

the marks dont make you deal more damage to enemies, its just killing them gives you stacks that give you more damage to enemies

[still hearth]

Just make BR better

[glossy ember]

https://tenor.com/view/piccolo-ultimate-piccolo-power-awakening-piccolo-special-beam-cannon-makankosappo-gif-27210251

[still hearth]

Make LMB instant damage

[glossy ember]

smite rmb

[sturdy dagger]

alright guys time 2 do my vet contracts wish me luck

[digital narwhal]

Like Bolt Staff?

[still hearth]

RMB damage based on charge

[frigid zenith]

Living out our palpatine dreams with smite.

[sturdy dagger]

nah like fr though can we bring back unique staff left clicks?

wheres my shotgun staff

[digital narwhal]

I like to believe it's something they're working on, but-

man

[still hearth]

I doubt it

[frigid zenith]

gunpsyker is still a meme for anyone who wanted to know.

[static needle]

is mobility a dump stat for mark iv duelling sword

[frigid zenith]

NOt really.

[still hearth]

Yes

[plucky flax]

Yeah but you want at least 50%.

Cleave damage is also not that important.

[frigid zenith]

"yes" but "no".

[steel flame]

this is FALSE, do not listen to this heretic propoganda

[static needle]

what are the best perks for mk iv

[still hearth]

I mean it's funny to go fast

[frigid zenith]

lol

[frigid zenith]

YOu live in a meme dream sir.

[glossy ember]

[frail sand]

gunker issue is competing for ammo

[frigid zenith]

pppffttt

[frail sand]

nice brick OwO

[glossy ember]

yeah that's a brick

[digital narwhal]

Fuck yeah, +Stamina
Now you have synergy with Kinetic Deflection and Deflector so you can stand still and do nothing whilst pretending you're "tanking damage" for the team

[sturdy dagger]

now u can explode without even dealing dmg!!!!

just block a crusher!!!

[glossy ember]

based

[left mirage]

im using illisi + shredder auto and it clicked

and emp brain burst

for ranged

/ cara

[digital narwhal]

Shredder Post-13?

[left mirage]

pinning fire shredder handles elites / spec / boss

[hearty oak]

Spending so much time on zealot and going to glass bones psyker is jarring

[left mirage]

still works out tbh

[still hearth]

Just run Columbus IAG

[digital narwhal]

I tried out my old Shredder the other day and

it just is not it.

[left mirage]

gaze gives 10 dmg straight up and 20cc

[frail sand]

ran out of ammo in AM lul

[left mirage]

ill try columby again

[still hearth]

So does the shreddee

Those guns eat ammo

Nom nom

[digital narwhal]

Columnus IAG just works better than Shredder now

[left mirage]

ye

idk, i found more success with shredder than iag

both on hunting grounds damnation

[frail sand]

how

[left mirage]

ill give them both more runs

[frail sand]

i tried shredder

[digital narwhal]

Shredder could use a buff so that it isn't outclassed by Columnus at close range.
Shredder is an even closer range gun than Columnus, so the fact the Columnus outclasses it everywhere is

dumb.

[frail sand]

it didnt kill stuff

[left mirage]

pinning fire still worked for me

like, it was still putting in work

[steel flame]

use laspistol sheeple

[fading iris]

Power Fists for all classes update when

[left mirage]

i just had to get close

[left mirage]

still need to get a good roll on my psyk

[digital narwhal]

It's entire strength was in Pinning Fire being broken, but now that Pinning Fire is dead , it just doesn't do much.

[left mirage]

i kinda wanna try to nab an illisi with rending + quell lmao

because i only get around 15/30 stacks before scriers caps out

and its annoying me

[steel flame]

the quelling only starts on the second headshot

[digital narwhal]

Why use an Illisi with Scrier's?

Use a Tac Axe, Combat Axe, Devil's Claw, or Chainsword with Scrier's

or Duelling Sword

[left mirage]

csword with scriers wasnt really cutting it

ill give the others a fair shake

[digital narwhal]

bruh

[left mirage]

yeah idk man

[digital narwhal]

Chainsword is cracked right now

[left mirage]

had cleave on 3 hit

it wasnt doing it for me

[digital narwhal]

Savage Sweep + Rampage is dumby strong on Chainsword

[left mirage]

yeah i know

[digital narwhal]

Same with Devil's Claw, too

[plucky flax]

Christopher Columbus the G.

[left mirage]

ill try good old mk 5 axe

[glossy ember]

they gonna be charging like a horde of demoknights

[frail sand]

"why am i alone"

[potent echo]

this wasnt even maelstrom

[fluid knot]

Yeah no.. Psyker is pretty cracked with a multitude of guns

Columnus, Laspistol, Revolver, MKIa and MKXII lasguns, etc etc

[supple skiff]

Bussin Pyker indeed

[frail sand]

i feel like sometimes AM screws u over with ammo spawns

sometimes AM has plenty of ammo to go around

[fluid knot]

Usually you just have a player on the team hoggin it all

If it feels like there is no ammo, thats usually the result

[frail sand]

that's a me

[supple skiff]

using a gun as a psyker feels a lot like putting ketchup onm a steak lol

[fluid knot]

Had a Zealot yesterday running Vraks III an i dont think i saw him swap to melee once. Predicatbly, everyone else was running totally dry the whole match

[supple skiff]

LOL

[frail sand]

[supple skiff]

did they gut the flamer? I havent seen anyone using one in a while

dont play a shouty so

[fluid knot]

There are some right specimens in pugs

[potent echo]

zealot?

its like a really bad purgatus staff

[fluid knot]

They nerfed it ages ago, but its still very strong. Just its a one trick pony so that lack of versatility hurts it a lot in higher settings

[potent echo]

1. needs reload
2. takes forever to pull out
3. getting hit while firing interrupts

[supple skiff]

fair, havent played in months so, did a lot of launch though

[potent echo]

it just really feels bad to use in a pinch, you need to take it out before things get rough

[supple skiff]

Why I patently refuse to play heresy lmao

[frail sand]

4. hope someone else can deal with sniper

[potent echo]

i usually bring knife to compensate

[fluid knot]

Its not unique to Heresy, though thats arguably the worst setting. There are potates all the way up to AM

[frail sand]

AM has plenty of potatoes

myself included 🥔

[fluid knot]

Yeah.. given how fast situations can change in some games, Flamer is far from the ideal tool

Wrong Reply

@potent echo That was directed at you regarding the pinch comment

[supple skiff]

haven't tried anything auric yet

[potent echo]

oh

[supple skiff]

Feel like I could hold my own but puggin that seems like a bad idea

[fluid knot]

Only way you're gonna learn it is to try

[potent echo]

its really great for the final run to the valkyrie

[plucky flax]

Solo queue maelstrom is

[potent echo]

just cover the door way and hold lmb

[fluid knot]

Noone gives much of a fuck if someone is bad because they're still adjusting, its when you see the same names repeatedly and they always suck where it gets annoying

[potent echo]

hit them with the 🇧 lock

[fluid knot]

Nah, best difficulty modifier is the roll of your teamates when solo queueing

[plucky flax]

Like my mane xbox icon psyker with no blessing staff in auric maelstrom.

Veri kool

[fluid knot]

Not unless someone is an actual mouthbreather an toxic, a bad player might come good someday, an arsehole is an arsehole forever

[supple skiff]

either an absolute buffoon or a total chad, no inbetween

[potent echo]

true but also perhaps

[frigid zenith]

Theres a lot of poeple that never learned the lesson that if everyone is an asshole, you're the asshole.

[supple skiff]

I like teams that really dont know what theyre doing but somehow manage to pull through

[fluid knot]

Those ones are fun, shows they're trying

[supple skiff]

that level of choas seems fitting for the game themetically

[bleak tulip]

if I blocked every bad player I came across my list would be full

[fluid knot]

Can always appreciate someone trying, even if they're struggling

[fading iris]

Hey, I always suck for my dreams!

[plucky flax]

Mine is growing that way. Not necessarily block bad players, but people who have no business in maelstrom and spend more time waiting to be rescued than actually playing the game.

[visual adder]

Guys

Say hi dog

[fading iris]

I'm a simple toaster playing as psyker, or I go John Psiker mode, or I am a extra that ends up dead, there is no in between

[bleak tulip]

maybe it's an EU thing or that I don't play at ungodly hours that much but I don't really get the same people more than once already

but I get it

[supple skiff]

ah lawd him lickin

[copper torrent]

Yours case? Super cutie.

[plucky flax]

Eu pugs are built differently

[fluid knot]

The only game i can say i've blocked people left an right was Elden Ring when i was trying to invade. The netcode in that game is a shitfest an i had to block so many chinese people purely because the connection was absolute dogass

[visual adder]

Yee

He’s Dio

[fluid knot]

Chalked PvP in that game up as a loss after a while, fuckin bad balance an the worst netcode ive experienced for years

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/racist-thats-racist-dats-racist-gif-5036293

[visual adder]

HOLY DIVER

[fading iris]

I only got one dude that was really using his voice chat to cry about people getting down, and after the mission he even sent a message in the morningstar chat, sad part (for him) is that ppl weren't even getting down that much

[plucky flax]

I want to have a grey cat called jojo and a blonde one called dio.

[fluid knot]

Nahhh, nothin against them personally, but my internet isnt spectacular so i would rather not have a terrible gaming experience invading on the other side of the damn planet

[fluid knot]

I got a giant white one called Barry.. Barry White

Original i know

[plucky flax]

Xd

[supple skiff]

my orange tabby likes to post up on my lap when Im BB'ing heretics

[shell igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-wow-mindblown-gif-13169052

Another shitpost continuing to advocate for EP+BB

[visual adder]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-get-to-work-gif-21630516

[supple skiff]

EP and BB is top tier

[plucky flax]

I've not a house of my own yet. And I want 2 chunky British shorthair and they are expensive too.

Life is hard.

[visual adder]

Tinny doggo hides

[visual adder]

Tiny doggo is not smart

[supple skiff]

assail feels like im back in elementary school throwing pens at my buddies

[visual adder]

Sadge

[fading iris]

still a good boy/girl... PET IT

[visual adder]

o7

[fluid knot]

We call a british shorthair a "moggy" over here

[shell igloo]

I'm loving it. The only trouble is, pairing with Trauma staff, you have to rely on your team to handle individual shooters

[supple skiff]

I use void, same issue more or less

[fading iris]

my secret is that I only rely on my Beloved

[supple skiff]

I can handle every threat except 3 lone shooters in slightly different places lol

[still hearth]

That's not a threat

[bleak tulip]

left click

[tropic torrent]

do domes stack? or is it better to offset if you have a pug

[fading iris]

good... now pet it more

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[plucky flax]

Interesting. British shorthair is a very distinct breed though.

[fading iris]

good

[fluid knot]

Supposedly, trouble is they're hard to tell apart from your average cat for the most part

[fading iris]

don`t need to pet more for now because a little of tough love is good to build character

[plucky flax]

I think you're mistaken it for another breed. It's this fat chunky, usually blue/grey cat with very bright orange eyes.

[visual adder]

Dio jelly now

[plucky flax]

They are cute little fatties.

[fluid knot]

Heh, looks exactly like our other cat, only fatter

[fading iris]

thicc

[visual adder]

Old lady watches, judging, from afar

[plucky flax]

Yeah british shorthair has a lot of loose skin so it always look fat.

[plucky flax]

And the fat face is so cute. Its actually a very healthy breed and can live quite long.

[fluid knot]

Ahh ok, dint know that was the defining characteristic, thought it was just the shorter fur

[plucky flax]

Yeah they have super floppy bellies.

Big chonkies

[bleak tulip]

very glad cats aren't as bred into corners as done dog breeds that give me health issues on average

[fading iris]

mine has a big loose belly, it's a rescue, the breed is "yes, it's a cat"

[bleak tulip]

at least aiui

[plucky flax]

I really like maine coon or Norwegian forest cats too but I don't think I can maintain a long hair cat.

[bleak tulip]

what's that cat? Orange

[fading iris]

shes currently camping my dad with big eyes because hes eating

[plucky flax]

Orange or grey tabby? Xd

[fading iris]

I don't have a picture of her on my pc, let me google, one sec

is the offbrand version of this breed

oh Jesus that is a big picture

[bleak tulip]

ah yes, "grey cat" the most common breed

[digital narwhal]

"Oh I love your cat, what breed are they?"
"Uhh... orange"

[fading iris]

Here on Brazil we don't care that much about cat breeds, so is more like "I see cat, I like cat, cat is now living with me"

[visual adder]

BRASIL

PAN 🥖

🧀

[fading iris]

"I love it and if anything happens to cat I will rain THE EMPEROR`S WRATH

[plucky flax]

Ah yes a grey tabby.

[hearty oak]

Is soul blaze damage worth having over warp rider?

on a scrier build

[glossy ember]

warp rider is a perma 10% damage buff at the very least

[bleak tulip]

warp rider is always something you want

on all builds

[fading iris]

and speaking of the devil... she appeared and started to sing her song about open the damn door I want to go out slap some cats!

Warp Rider is your second best friend on a psyker build

[hearty oak]

I know. Thats why im considering using the two points i have for soul blaze for warp rider

[bleak tulip]

righto

[hearty oak]

I just didnt know if it was worth using for the DoT damage on elites for when they come in packs

[glossy ember]

you usually try to pick both but well if you have to choose between one or the other

warp rider definitely wins

[hearty oak]

I just want soul blaze to be useful

[bleak tulip]

perilous is great, ideally get both

there is something else that worse on your build

[strong gulch]

@plucky flax Do you remember the name of the mod that let's you change the scopes on guns?

[bleak tulip]

perilous combustion is insanely strong in higher difficulties

[plucky flax]

Weapon customisation found on modders discord.

[hearty oak]

Soulstealer actually. This build doesnt use any warp based attacks

so

[glossy ember]

PC gets affected by rend too right

[strong gulch]

Thanks

[glossy ember]

sounds op if you have any rending on any weapon

[bleak tulip]

none? what you running smite gunker?

[hearty oak]

BB gunker

[bleak tulip]

BB is warp damage

[hearty oak]

Yeah but im not using it

Just get it for the flayer

[bleak tulip]

well I guess flayer is then but I getcha

[hearty oak]

Ill admit, survivability isnt on this builds side. Not much to really gain for toughness

[fading iris]

don't need to worry about survivabilty if everyone is dead

[hearty oak]

Exactly what i am aiming for

[bleak tulip]

I don't run that kind of build so I don't have math for you but only getting soulstealer for flayer isn't super worth, even with perilous on top, but I'd probably still find the points elsewhere and use BB on occasion

[hearty oak]

I opted to use prescience for more crit but i am now wanting to see what i can do over on the seers for the talent damage reduction based on current peril

[glossy ember]

alright boys, what do I change

[hearty oak]

TB for flurry or something

[glossy ember]

fuck i don't have a single blessing for voidstrike

ofc staff blessings aren't shared

maniacs/flak fine on voidstrike?

[digital narwhal]

They've already got Flurry

[glossy ember]

woop you're right

[bleak tulip]

the blessings prob

[digital narwhal]

Flak + Maniac works fine, yeah

[hearty oak]

[digital narwhal]

I'd say you have the choice of Surge + Warp Nexus or Transfer Peril + Warp Flurry

Just depends on what you want

[glossy ember]

[bleak tulip]

time to spend some plasteel on void staves my guy

[digital narwhal]

Time to start farming Blessings, varlet.

[shell igloo]

Depending on what you want to use it for, I've seen people take carapace to deal with crushers

[glossy ember]

bruheth.

well i guess this is better than TB at least

[fading iris]

could be worse, imagine if was all 0's

[glossy ember]

sounds good

[bleak tulip]

terrifying is like the worst blessing so it might actually be better that way

[glossy ember]

it was a second ago, i bought the warp nexus from shop

behold

[bleak tulip]

[fading iris]

379

[digital narwhal]

I think the funniest part about TB is that Ripper Guns get it

you know

a weapon with built in TB

[bleak tulip]

[digital narwhal]

Ripper Guns have AOE Suppression on kill as part of it's Collateral stat

and they still get TB

[fading iris]

It's all about the grimdark on blessing rolls

I just want to play as Tyberos, it is too much to ask?

[obsidian urchin]

anyone willing to help me do malleus monstronum?

[glossy ember]

damn, this weapon is basically a rocket launcher

neat

[fading iris]

and this reminded me of Eternal Crusade, and now I'm sad.

[bleak tulip]

maybe thats why my quake brain like it so much

[glossy ember]

it's pretty satisfying

[crystal oxide]

Whew

[glossy ember]

shame you're almost locked in place when charging

[crystal oxide]

Playing psyker is tiring.

Juggling assail with voidstaff, all the peril, dodging while in peril, meleeing

Wheeeeh

[silk hawk]

going to try that goddamn mk 4 ds... uncanny 4 or rampage instead of shred?

[frail sand]

i simply explode

[crystal oxide]

Orgyn had a kickback, lucky him

[fading iris]

more kills

[crystal oxide]

I blew up all the crushers and he just BOOMFT everything else lol

[bleak tulip]

depends on how you use it tbh

also the upgrade to uncanny 4 is like what, 2.5% crit?

[digital narwhal]

Ogryn with sub 50k melee damage

[bleak tulip]

not super good

[digital narwhal]

Hurts to see

[fading iris]

the scoreboard needs to be turned into a vanilla feature, I want to see if I was carried after a mission

[digital narwhal]

Man, he even had a Club, too

[crystal oxide]

Yeah he was full Kickback lol

[silk hawk]

so rampage instead of shred?

[digital narwhal]

Pal's melee damage should not be that low

[glossy ember]

gonna try out flaming shriek

[digital narwhal]

[silk hawk]

i use it to deal with everything what i cant kill with surge

so hordes i guess

[bleak tulip]

depends on if you like the push attack

[silk hawk]

no i dont

[digital narwhal]

Uncanny 4 imo

[bleak tulip]

might as well keep it this way then imo

I run uncanny shred and I mostly stab

[crystal oxide]

I feel like I need to finish the night with a more relaxing run lol

[silk hawk]

hmmm

[bleak tulip]

light attacks can but usually dont hit 3 things

[summer prairie]

that's a few melee elites

[bleak tulip]

so rampage might not trigger as much as you want

[fading iris]

ds stab is life, ds stab is love

[digital narwhal]

MkIV DS with Shred and Uncanny is pretty neat for bossing

[fading iris]

I can't wait for 4 blessing slots

[crystal oxide]

I do like how Vets can be mini Orgyn now

[silk hawk]

i see, i was using mk2 before on mk 2 rampage were pretty consistent thou

[crystal oxide]

PS and Shout go swish

[fading iris]

like what

[digital narwhal]

Melee Vet will never even approach the sheer stupidity that is Melee Ogryn

[bleak tulip]

I mean try it out with a burner in psyk and see for yourself

maybe you still like it

mk4 with rampage isnt at all bad or anything

but the most realiable way to hit 3 enemies is the push attack aiui

[silk hawk]

hard to say for sure i am lazy to use creature spawner, and only place where u can rly test a weapon is a dense mixed hordes

[fading iris]

Purgatus needs a fireball button

[silk hawk]

what trauma wil ldo then?

[frail sand]

teleport

[bleak tulip]

left click fires repressed childhood memories?

[digital narwhal]

Replace Purgatus M1 with the Bolt Staff M1

BRRRRTTTT

[fading iris]

remind you about your failings in life, bringing back all the traumas

[cyan notch]

just a couple

[silk hawk]

xD

[fading iris]

bro hit LMB on trauma staff, just hear "you failed at that mission that was 99.9% done on the last stage"

[frail sand]

[bright mica]

So what's the optimal boss DPS laspis?

I'm guessing Dumdum and Infernus?

[digital narwhal]

DumDum + Infernus

[bright mica]

Okay good ^.^

[digital narwhal]

Pop Scrier’s and go nuts

[bright mica]

Yeah I'm doing it without Scriers since the DPS is still decent enough

[plucky flax]

Maybe they should make dd work like momentum keystone from zealot.

Just run for stacks.

Or piety keystone from zealot.

Just always max stacks.

Zealot op.

[digital narwhal]

Disrupt Destiny as a "Kill a certain amount of enemies to receive buff" type Keystone would be pretty neat

But they've already got the targeting system and I doubt they'd scrap it now that it's in-game

So the best bandaid buff I can think of is to have it be able to target multiple people at once to reduce the potential of tunnel vision, whilst having it prioritise Elite enemies too.

[fading iris]

but psyker runs slow as hel, weak knees mutaded by the warp

[plucky flax]

Or teammates killing marked targets also give you stack.

Like piety you just get free 25 stacks.

[plucky flax]

Time to put on 3x +3 stam.

[fading iris]

or a atificer class based on stims to boost the group

[summer prairie]

there needs to be a node like kinetic deflection but for sprinting

[hexed wedge]

Best Duelling sword?

[glossy ember]

why does shriek have a 7s cooldown wtf

[fading iris]

Fatshark, I don't have high rates, employ me

[glossy ember]

that's nutty

[plucky flax]

Aye I still want a new class/archetype/whatever

Cos if we're stuck with 4 classes with this tree for another year it'll get old eventually.

[fading iris]

Don't we all

that lone character slot, waiting for a new class

[bleak tulip]

highly doubt it

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/think-mark-invincible-omniman-bhondamous-gif-22025607

[fading iris]

You need to have faith in the Omnissiah

they need to iron out some bugs first tho

[bleak tulip]

thats probably their main focus while the art team churns out more levels yeah

[fading iris]

I would like a buffer class, but that isn't fun if comes with a extra side of bugs

[plucky flax]

Give sister of battle.

[bleak tulip]

im sure they already have the design done for like 3 more level tilesets but whoever does the nitty gritty over there cant figure out how to not break shit at every occasion

[fading iris]

a talent that says it gives 5% movement speed, but ends up giving more 150% on damage

[plucky flax]

The cosmetics will sell like hot cakes.

[frail sand]

i absolutely despise snipers that prefire u around a corner

bro is prime kennyS or something

[fading iris]

just like the movie Wanted

[plucky flax]

That film is how physics work irl.

[fading iris]

yes

[bright mica]

is deimos with shred and soulblaze a meme or actually good

[digital narwhal]

Meme

[bright mica]

aw

[digital narwhal]

Shred + Uncanny >>> Shred + Blazing Spirit

[bright mica]

obv for single targets yea but does shred n blazing spirit offer any increased horde-clear or is the amount of DOT shit

[frail sand]

but blue fire

[bright mica]

i've heard conflicting opinions on this

i wanna run deimos + laspis + assail (ik ew) + gaze

[digital narwhal]

Blazing Spirit isn't great on Force Swords due to the fact that they can only hit so many enemies.

Blazing Spirit is great on Trauma due to it's fat AOE and the fact it has range

Plus, it applies to enemies hit by the sword, meaning enemies you hit likely die anyway

[bright mica]

wait i cant wildfire with assail

FUCK

[digital narwhal]

Whereas it's different with Trauma due to epicentre rules n' blast radiuses n' yada yada

[bleak tulip]

wildfire stinky anyway

[digital narwhal]

Mhm

I don't really run Wildfire either tbh

Perilous Combustion + Creeping Flames + Blazing Spirit Trauma is enough

[fading iris]

[digital narwhal]

[near wyvern]

Depends on build

But mostly yes

[plucky flax]

[bright mica]

what's a decent gaze deimos + laspis build to run then ya reckon?

doesnt have to be deimos but I kinda want it to be

[ornate hamlet]

its the lil guy

[bright mica]

I'll probably run assail to assist horde-clear although I usually avoid it cus its stinky

[kind jay]

lol i hit qp, went to loading with a full squad, ended up by myself without bots

weird

guess ill die

[bleak tulip]

real solo mode confirmed

[sacred crane]

what kind of weapons and abilities would a deathkorp psyker use? i wanna make a deathkorp pysker build

[vale creek]

any revolver psykers around here? is speed reload good blessing?

[digital narwhal]

No

You want Surgical + Hand Cannon or Crucian Roulette + Hand Cannon

[lethal lagoon]

Speed reload is a good blessing. The problem is surgical and hand cannon are great blessings.

[fading iris]

Warp shovel

[digital narwhal]

Or well, yeah, that

It's good, but it's outclassed

by a lot

[vale creek]

hand cannon is the rending?

[digital narwhal]

On Crit, yeah

[lethal lagoon]

yeppers

[sacred crane]

if only shovel wasnt restricted to veteran and ogryn

[digital narwhal]

Force Shovel when?

[vale creek]

yeah im using that just curious about how much speed reload gets u out from sticky situations or its rather useless

[fading iris]

and yes, I rock the Krieg bundle on my psyker

[hasty pier]

Imagine using ammo as psyker

[sacred crane]

surge staff my beloved

[vale creek]

shhhhhhh

[sacred crane]

[vale creek]

one can have fun

[hasty pier]

If I wanted to shoot gun I'd play my vet or ogryn

[bright mica]

you say this but...

[hasty pier]

Zealots are for flamers and psykers are for staves

[sacred crane]

I feel pysker is meant to be for backline/support

[bright mica]

gaze psyker does more DPS with columnus/laspis than any other class

😭

[lethal lagoon]

I mean I imagine being able to 2 shot crushers being better at that.

[digital narwhal]

Well, the Revolver reload is unique.
It's not a staged reload like every other weapon (besides Shotguns), where you reload everything at once, but being interupted saves your progress.
Instead, it reloads every shot one at a time (like Shotguns), and you can interrupt your reload to immediately shoot.

[bright mica]

nah not after talent rework, you can play them offensively very well

[glossy ember]

flaming shriek feels weird af to play

[digital narwhal]

So that should help alleviate some of said sticky situation issues.

[sacred crane]

force shield my beloved because fuck gunners and reapers

[hasty pier]

Bold of you to assume I care about optimal dps

It's about flavor

[bright mica]

thats fair 💀

[vale creek]

okok illjust test myself

[fading iris]

my beloved says: unload the weapon on that heretic

[hasty pier]

Turn up the heat

Open the oven door

Close the oven door

Repeat

[glossy ember]

do you try and always shriek at 6 warp stacks or do you just not care about it and go for it anyway

[bright mica]

whats your build for it? I run cknife + surge staff with smite (only using for emergency CC, dog packs, etc) and warp siphon. cknife helps you get in a good angle to rip ass with your creeping flames

[hasty pier]

Can you smell what the psyker is cooking?

[bright mica]

you dont care

[glossy ember]

ok maybe that's why it was being weird

was tring to always have lowest cd on it

[hasty pier]

I shoot for 4+ stacks but sometimes you just gotta go

[bright mica]

i dont even use the 6 stack talent on my shriek build

[lethal lagoon]

Anything other than 6 is probably gonna be useless lmao

[frank fulcrum]

heretics- we're cooking heretics

[bright mica]

nop

[glossy ember]

was running illisi + surge staff

[bright mica]

you get enough CDR so you can delete a whole wave

[glossy ember]

might switch to combat knife tho

[bright mica]

you scarcely need illisi

[glossy ember]

lemme get a pic of the build

[bright mica]

creeping flames is enough to get you top fragss alone if used well

[hasty pier]

Illisi is fun though

[bright mica]

yeah but on this build its kinda whatever

i'd use dsword4, cknife, deimos imho

[hasty pier]

I'm trying to build double flame

[glossy ember]

what i went for

[fading iris]

just don't use the current keystone bug with surge and you will be fine, bugs poison the mind and let the Chaos Gods enter your body with ease

[hasty pier]

Flame Illisi and Fire Trauma

[lethal lagoon]

Even in the best case scenario, that's still relatively slow lmao

[bright mica]

yeah not bad lemme check mine

[frank fulcrum]

i still have empowered smite dreams

[bright mica]

have you tried it genuine question

[ornate hamlet]

do you guys have more than one psyker

[lethal lagoon]

A CDR "build"? Obviously

[bright mica]

a creeping flames build specifically

[glossy ember]

mostly as an emergency crowd tool when I don't have shriek

[fading iris]

why would we? you can have multiple builds on one

[glossy ember]

but yeah barely use it

[hasty pier]

One of each at 30 now, last slot staying open for inevitable fifth class

[glossy ember]

oh i use it for charging muties tho

[ornate hamlet]

if you want both male and female

[glossy ember]

[lethal lagoon]

Yeppers.

[frank fulcrum]

nah, i have male vet, female psyker and female zealot

[fading iris]

that sounds double of the expenses for booba/pp

[glossy ember]

i kept joining games in progress so I couldn't get a proper damage value so far but even in short games it ramps up fast

[bright mica]

i remember trying it out on a maelstrom and getting 1k lesser enemies without even trying with surge and a cknife 😭

[lethal lagoon]

With blaze trauma yeah. Still better to launch at 6 stacks.

peril can be stacked so fast

I guess if you are running dueling sword revolver is the exception.

[fading iris]

my female zealot looks like

[bright mica]

its better to launch it at good oppertunities not grinding for 6 stacks

[desert mirage]

my psyker

[ornate hamlet]

i have male vet, leveling a male psyker but dam I think I like female psyker for some reason

[bright mica]

the way hordes spawn is you usually get 1 big crowd followed by another from another angle 15 secs later

[fading iris]

well, minus the glasses because I made her blind she only needs to see THE EMPEROR`S BLESSINGS

[bright mica]

with good management you can creeping flames both back to back

[glossy ember]

time to pull the knoife out...

[frank fulcrum]

female enforcer psyker is just 🥴

[bright mica]

nice :D

[late yew]

Just played as zealot with 3 psykers with surge + smite... I used to love that build before the patch. But now every basic bitch running it, so it lost all appeal

[bright mica]

I find surge boring as fuck to use which is my main issue

[ornate hamlet]

which voice is best?

[glossy ember]

do you use wildfire on your build

[stable silo]

im an assail slave its just so smooth

[late yew]

Skill issue

[stable silo]

whip out the crystals fire em off then start blasting with void or swinging the sword

[frank fulcrum]

i honestly can't remember them rn, gimme a sec

[lethal lagoon]

Surge is great for learning the class because it's so braindead easy to use, you can focus on basic skills like dodging nets.

[bright mica]

it's dead easy to top damage and kills using it for me, i just find it boring as fuck

[late yew]

So you are basic bitch of previous patch

[fading iris]

I run the surge without the bug, I like it, the looming chance of a misplaced nerf worries me tho

[glossy ember]

surge's my fav staff

[bright mica]

I'll dm you my build rq

[glossy ember]

just put it here

[late yew]

wildifre bad

don't use it

[bright mica]

ironically same I just dislike staves, I am a gunsyker main but when I don't see a scav vet I switch to surge 😭

[frank fulcrum]

the savant female psyker @ornate hamlet

[bright mica]

It's alright with creeping flames, does often propogate enough damage to be worth the 1 point

[glossy ember]

just blitz cancel, no more killsteal issue

[late yew]

Gunpsyker

cringe

go play vet or something

[ornate hamlet]

ah I think I liked the female seer

[crystal oxide]

Meanwhile I'm kinda liking Void staff

Something I need to aim!

[bright mica]

I find vet even more boring because gunsyker is just more fun 😭

[late yew]

Male Loner is the best

I love his shrieking voice

it penetrates your brain

[lethal lagoon]

Savant is the default choice, VAs are a little unbalanced lmao.

[bright mica]

void staff is fun although I can't figure out a fun build to fit it into which is my only issue

[late yew]

you mean

basic bitch choice

[lethal lagoon]

^ yeah that too

[crystal oxide]

You really feel how strong a gunslinger psyker is when you aim for headshots

[fading iris]

I have my beloved because was that or voice that doesn't fit my character or crazy scientist

[crystal oxide]

Unironically a superior point and click adventure, as long as you dont get suppressed

[late yew]

But they are same... Except vet got infinite grenades

[frank fulcrum]

i like the savant a lot just because i get the callouts alot, and she's very humble with accepting the compliments

[bright mica]

honestly even with just a spray and pray columnus build the sheer amount of crit chains out damages vets

which is sad cus columnus vet is fun

but i feel underpowered

cus psyker and even rage zealot use it better

[late yew]

Vet is much more survivable than psyker

200 default toughness lol

[bright mica]

nah

[crystal oxide]

Speaking of gun psyker..

[lethal lagoon]

Uh... wrong patch lmao

[bright mica]

100 now

💀

[crystal oxide]

Brunt really must have hated me using the staves just now

[late yew]

150 then

[crystal oxide]

He was like, "Use this"

[late yew]

Vet still has highest default shield

[fading iris]

I just want a grenadier gauntlet on my psyker, not asking that much

[bright mica]

effective toughness (past toughness DR) is what matters

[lethal lagoon]

No, Ogryn does

[late yew]

no, Ogryn has highest health

[bright mica]

gaze psyker with the right talents is a steam tank

[late yew]

his shield is small

[lethal lagoon]

Ogryn has highest toughness, I can't tell if you are trolling.

It's not even close

[bright mica]

he just said vet has 200 toughness

he's a bit slow

[lethal lagoon]

You can take a full sniper shot on ogryn now, with 0 damage.

it's fun af

[feral verge]

wrong

[late yew]

suck a cock

[ornate hamlet]

now should I make my female psyker shorter or tall or in the middle

[feral verge]

vet has 100 default toughness. check your shit

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/escalated-quickly-anchorman-drinking-gif-5112090

[late yew]

I really hate when people assuming trolling

no one fuckn trolls ever

Stop imagining that someone stupid enough to waste his time doing that

[lethal lagoon]

Meh, suck a cock doesn't have the same impact it used to. Mid-tier escalation at best.

[late yew]

Good enough

[frail sand]

[fading iris]

wait until next update were vet will have 300 toughness default

[frail sand]

what is this chat

[late yew]

]

not vet chat

yet

[ornate hamlet]

why do people not like female Seer?

[lethal lagoon]

Says the guy who carries around a visiability modifier....

[bright mica]

Vet has lower survivability purely because Kinetic Deflection and dueling swords exist

[fading iris]

@frail sand what bout that "about me" what I did to you?

[late yew]

Dueling sword does not offer any survivability

[bright mica]

chat, laugh at this man

[late yew]

unless i am missing something

[normal matrix]

Honestly, i have been liking the deimos as opposed to the DSwords

[lethal lagoon]

Dsword*

[bright mica]

insane dodge and ability to insta stun anything in the game

[lethal lagoon]

Nothing other than mark 4 exists

[crystal oxide]

Huh. Okay Hadron, I can work with this.

[normal matrix]

"The melee weapon does not let me live longer in ANY scenario"

[frail sand]

i want a lmg on psyker

[late yew]

and force swords offer protection from ranged

[lethal lagoon]

Good thing you added this part, or you'd probably tell me to suck a cock again.

Dueling swords still have great dodge mobility.

[normal matrix]

To be fair, you can also dodge ranged attacks

[lethal lagoon]

Good for killing overheaders when boxed in a corner.

[late yew]

i still can

[fading iris]

Dswords are the best poking sticks

[lethal lagoon]

Blocking and then crab walking dodging sliding with dueling sword is probably the best "oh shit I"m out" atm.

[late yew]

force swords also have great dodge mobility

[fading iris]

I don't have a skin for force swords, so DS wins

[slow raven]

dueling swords are proof that force sword infinite dodge wasn't overpowered

[fading iris]

we need force fists

[lethal lagoon]

Everyone has a skin for force sword now

[slow raven]

because literally everyone switched to dueling swords as soon as they were buff with zero issues

[lethal lagoon]

I love my 2handed force sword

If only it was actually 2 handed

[late yew]

which is weird, considering it is a fuckn sabre

Sabres are not that great for thrusts

[lethal lagoon]

the weird part is the pokey version does the most damage on everything

[late yew]

i did not

[lethal lagoon]

Like shouldn't the slashing one be better for low armor?

[late yew]

i still use both force swords

But i also use DS sometimes now

as opposite to what was before

[normal matrix]

The duelings swords do a tragically low amount of damage considering they are sabres

[late yew]

Definitely not

Thrusts way better against light armor

i should start doing sabre irl at one point

[normal matrix]

Somehow the obscurus, a blunt steel wedge, has strongers lights than any of the dswords

[late yew]

probably will also do better with it than with rapier

[fading iris]

it's because is more like that saber type that is a love affair of a rapier and a saber

[late yew]

wat

no

it is literally a sabre

classic sabre

nothing related to rapier

and those 2 are very different weapons for very different purposes

they are not evolution of one to another

[normal matrix]

I have to side with dwarf here, they are pretty by-the-book in terms of appearance

[lethal lagoon]

A sabre weighs like 1 pound though, slashing it isn't going to do shit to armor.

[late yew]

unlike something called reinescance sword

[normal matrix]

This is cap

[late yew]

side sword*

[normal matrix]

Sabres do not weight "like a pound"

[late yew]

literal ancestor of rapier

[fading iris]

let me login and see the sword without any skins, because in my mind I have that type of sword while thinking about DS, one sec

[late yew]

a bit shorter, a bit wider

more cutting technique than thrusting

[lethal lagoon]

So google says about 1-1.5 pounds for professionals, about 2 pounds for military. Maybe some calvary have heavier sabers.

[late yew]

First, what kind of armor we are talking about, cloth, wood, metal? Because when considering metal, that is true for any weapon.

for knowledge, maces are also 600-800 gramm

also 1 pound way too light

[normal matrix]

Ah, quite right i have a cav sabre myself and forgot it was on the heavy side haha

[late yew]

600 gramm minimum

[ornate hamlet]

Should I go with Applesauce or Corduroy for my female Psyker name

[late yew]

What professionals? Probably olympic fencing?

Have you seen those things lol

it is not a sword

those are just wires

[lethal lagoon]

I mean saber is the second fastest weapon in darktide

🤷‍♂️ Psykers are also made of paper

If a poxwalker looks at you wrong, your toughness and half your health is gone

[lethal lagoon]

Applesauce if you wanna get weird messages ocassionally. Corduroy otherwise.

[ornate hamlet]

why would I get weird messages

[late yew]

what Corduroy even mean

[normal matrix]

Corduroy is a manner of fabric

[fading iris]

okay, trying to explain "like a rapier saber fusion" was the wrong way, on a overcomplicaded way, and what I was thinking wasn't that, but a type of saber

[late yew]

call yourself SweetieFox 👀

[rotund dagger]

Take 2 Randomly generated names
Smoosh em into 1

Ez namez

[left mirage]

had the same fucking stealth plasma vet

aggro a DH

he did it twice

the second time wiped us

my fucking god

[late yew]

Smartest vet main

[shell igloo]

Oof

[left mirage]

christ

why is it always the stealth vets

its never anyone else

[shell igloo]

I hope that, if they add rewards for monstrosities/bosses, they DON'T add rewards for killing DH

[normal matrix]

Most brain-active stealth ability player tbh

[fading iris]

turn off the flashlight emperordamgit!

[left mirage]

gonna start auto leaving pubs with stealth vet

[ornate hamlet]

how about Oatmeal

[left mirage]

never had a good one

[supple skiff]

"I can deaggro its fine guys"

[lethal lagoon]

I really don't get why 99% of stealth users don't know how to clutch. You get a free team revive.

It's not even a "clutch"

It's built in

[late yew]

eeeh

[left mirage]

its part of the kit yeah

[fading iris]

because they like to aim at the DH with the flashlight turned on not knowing that DH doesn't like that, light sensitivity

[late yew]

not sure about vet, but Zealot's invisb too short for clutch

[normal matrix]

The clutch players are running the toughness regen abilities like vet shout

[late yew]

1 revive at best

[lethal lagoon]

Doesn't vet have a spd revive perk?

[late yew]

this

literaly Kruber

[lethal lagoon]

I'd run revive curio perks with that if I was stealth vet, the revive bar can get soooo fast.

[late yew]

WE ARE BLOODY MOURNING STAR FIVE! OR FOUR, IT DOES NOT MATTER!

[lethal lagoon]

I hate shout, cause there's literally no reason to ever use anything else ever on vet.

It's so ridicilous and helps your team

Unlike most OP shit which griefs your team

[normal matrix]

"I hate that i can help my team so much"

[lethal lagoon]

^

[normal matrix]

Is what you have just told us

[lethal lagoon]

"I hate that I can help my team so much and therefore won't run anything else"

[normal matrix]

In the 4-player co-op PVE game server

[lethal lagoon]

More accurate

[supple skiff]

more like theres really only one choice when there should be 3

[lethal lagoon]

I hate it helps them so much, because then I can't really run anything else

[glossy ember]

damn, almost at the end, probably could've gotten 40k more warpfire damage with the ending gauntlet. Still, build is fun

[fading iris]

I mean... you can have 2 stack stealth, one to engage and grief your team, then use the second one and get them back up

[glossy ember]

combat knife is wack tho it both feels great and awful

[late yew]

stealth sucks for sure, but the old ult still good

[normal matrix]

I dont think anyone is going to shit on you for using stance or stealth if you are not... actively being a brainlet

[lethal lagoon]

Oh, I couldn't care less about that. Running so sub-optimally, esp when you could be helping your whole team run way more optimally, is tough for me.

[late yew]

Considering i would not trust most pugs to carry my shit...

[supple skiff]

Im not goint to give a vet a hard time for not using shout though when Im running scyer instead of dome

[late yew]

literally impossible

you already playing vet

so task already failed

[fading iris]

material pickup goblin the plasteel will not pick themselves

[lethal lagoon]

Which is why you need a vet ^

Or ranged Ogryn

[normal matrix]

I carry pubs on my back with BB two-shield psyker

[glossy ember]

look i need that plasteel

[late yew]

i prefer dome

[normal matrix]

Also i dont get the vet hate, is it mostly because you guys run into shit ones?

[late yew]

Oh, don't you worry

i hate many ogryns just as much

Although, after talents rework, i mostly met only good ogryns

[glossy ember]

besides me not using push attack enough on the boss, am i doing this right

[late yew]

before that i used to say that ogryn players are IRL ogryns

[normal matrix]

I have a storied history with ogryn, i use to main vet

[late yew]

judging by their intellect

[fading iris]

seeing a teammate passing by and not picking it up... should be a death sentence by the Inquisition

[glossy ember]

combat knife is great to zoom to plasteel sources

but yeah people just kinda ignore them at times

[supple skiff]

unless youre knee deep in a beast f nurgle you pick that shit up

[lethal lagoon]

I typically ignore the boss and kill everthing else unless I'm running blaze trauma. Psykers don't have the best boss damage atm.

[late yew]

i would instakick you for using knife

[normal matrix]

The knife is weird, overall i dislike it though because the negative melee range kills me

[fading iris]

I can only look at the combat knife tricks

[bronze hound]

Is mk II dueling sword worth?

[lethal lagoon]

Probably not?

[glossy ember]

you're always grumpy

[bronze hound]

It is the mk IV the one I want, right?

[lethal lagoon]

yeppers

[late yew]

yes

[lethal lagoon]

stabby stab

[late yew]

i am

[glossy ember]

eat a snickers

https://tenor.com/view/commercial-snickers-cranky-gif-5478685

[bright mica]

this gunsyker builds alright i guess, gonna test it on maelstrom, anyone wanna fireteam with me? :P

[glossy ember]

its just sprinting

[visual adder]

Gimme

[normal matrix]

gunpsyker

[fading iris]

you kill heretics and your wrist

[glossy ember]

haven't gotten a win with flaming shriek yet

[supple skiff]

forget melee, real psykers bonk with their staves

[bright mica]

fr? lets fireteam and i'll carry you to victory

[glossy ember]

nah i gotta stop for now anyway but thanks

well i did get wins but like

joined near the end

or middle

so not really wins

[orchid shadow]

That's a win.

[bright mica]

hmu whenever you wanna play you seem chill

[glossy ember]

I think this is the funniest win I got though

6 mins hi intensity auric damnation

everyone joined at the end somehow

i guess people quit one by one

and then someone replaced them

[plucky flax]

Your scoreboard starts counting from the point you join a game.

[glossy ember]

oh even for others?

no wonder

[plucky flax]

Aye.

[glossy ember]

[glossy ember]

well it's more like I wanna see how i do with the build with a start to finish win

i'll take the plasteel though

[ornate hamlet]

what do u guys think of this height:

[normal matrix]

I need to share my build in here sometime, i feel you folk might enjoy it

[orchid shadow]

Either max height or munchkin. Nothing inbetween.

[ornate hamlet]

really? why so

[orchid shadow]

No real reason beyond it's funnier on the mission screens. 😛

[ornate hamlet]

hmm

[fading iris]

Dorsworth best player

[normal matrix]

Also certain levels of height make you impervious to weapons fire while hiding behind cover

Well, being short enough* i should say

[plucky flax]

Current maelstrom is hab dreyko but I don't want to play stealth zealot

[bright mica]

alr time to do the maelstrom rn to test this build

wish me luck

at least i am immune to snipers for 1s on crits lol

[plucky flax]

Good luck in the maelstrom.

I will try it with chastise instead of stealth and probably throw because of that.

[fading iris]

just do max height and use your face as a shield

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTnFsuFSKVg

[glossy ember]

i'll give the flame shriek build a few more tries later

it's fun tho

[crystal oxide]

The problem I noticed is once crushers move in squads of 4, there is no safe way for an assail gun psyker to deal with them safely

[glossy ember]

i think i still prefer my meme scrier build so far

[crystal oxide]

Going up into them to melee is a bit iffy with so many

[normal matrix]

This is why i run BB and Deimos

[crystal oxide]

BB might work yeah.

[normal matrix]

Melee threats-B-Gon

[crystal oxide]

I need to test this

[normal matrix]

It takes at least two

[crystal oxide]

As funny as Scier is, I feel super bad when the squad folds because I had no BB

[normal matrix]

For crushers i mean, s'why i follow up with deimos

[late yew]

you can take scrier AND bb...

[crystal oxide]

Oh. Oh

[normal matrix]

It is super dangerous though, bare in mind

[crystal oxide]

I meant assail dumped for BB

[late yew]

no

[crystal oxide]

.. Which seems a bit iffy

[late yew]

you can't explode while in scrier

Assail > BB

[glossy ember]

wait how would not having BB make your team wipe

[late yew]

for exception of monsters, crushers and may reapers

[glossy ember]

or you mean, if you gotta take out multiple gunners/snipers?

[ornate hamlet]

is this short enough

[normal matrix]

Man idk

[late yew]

want me to decide each parameter for you?

[ornate hamlet]

sure

[late yew]

that was sarcasm

[normal matrix]

Golem obediente

[crystal oxide]

Me and the Ogryn left alive had no ranged anti armour left

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/gnome-bonk-south-park-gif-13024165

[crystal oxide]

The other Pysker and Ogryn dieded

[late yew]

BB would not change shit

But Assail actually would

[crystal oxide]

Everything else? My build handles with ease

[late yew]

Assail is perfect for groups of shooters

[crystal oxide]

Only Crushers

[late yew]

What are you other weapons

[crystal oxide]

Mk 4 force sword and Vraks mkVII

[glossy ember]

rip

[late yew]

which is mk4

[orchid shadow]

Shorter!

[late yew]

also gunpsyker

Cringe

you are beyond help

[ornate hamlet]

🥹

[late yew]

goddamit

i love short women

[normal matrix]

I feel like assail is the stealth ability of psykers, any brainlet can run assail

[left mirage]

you dont have to think, yeah

its just brain off throw rock

though id take it over bb / smite

for most setups

they should make brain burst / rupture ignore chaff

unironically just let me hardlock onto the bomber behind everyone

[limber tartan]

What day of the week the updates usually hit

[digital narwhal]

Anywhere from Tuesday to Thursday usually.

[limber tartan]

Alright thanks

[hollow jolt]

brb running assail and dying to poxwalkers UwU

[ornate hamlet]

dammit did I make her too tall , it was right in the middle perhaps a bit lower too

[limber tartan]

Why are you soo centered on the height

[ornate hamlet]

cuz i cant change it after 😦

cuz fatshark sucks

[kind jay]

theres a height mod

problem solved

[glossy ember]

it's always fun when this happens.

[bright mica]

lol nice :D

just finished that maelstrom

only issue this build faces is when there's a billion million ragers on the screen

[glossy ember]

if i have combat knife and I see a million ragers

i'm dipping

[bright mica]

i mean yeah, thats the nice thing abt it :D

[glossy ember]

team adjust

[limber tartan]

I find it funny how scav ragers are more durable than dreg ravers despite having no armour

[bright mica]

makes perfect sense lorewise

it was a deimos/laspis/assail/gaze/ddestiny

was fun and did well

dsword4 is probably a better pick than deimos here

i just wanted to see how it faired with exorcist (it did a good job of extending my gaze)

[limber tartan]

Exorcist is great for that

Pretty much a must i run it with gaze

[ornate hamlet]

ok last question: which one do I go with first or 2nd:

[glossy ember]

happens more often than i'd thought, watching my old clips

[limber tartan]

I tried it with all manner of dueling swords but and force swords but deimos is a winner

For damage and extending gaze

[glossy ember]

in worst case scenarios i'm usually at 6 warp stacks 15 seconds into scrier's gaze

only once I was at 6 stacks only at 20s of scrier, but that's cuz I messed up, and once I didn't have enough enemies and never got to 6 stacks

[bright mica]

deimos is just rlly nice, plus the damage boost from gaze and constant crits with shred+gaze makes it do decent horde-clear

i miss the infinite dodge but oh well

5 dodges is nice

[static needle]

Which is better at what: illisi and obscurus

[limber tartan]

I prefer either slaughterer or superiority on force swords

[bright mica]

obscurus kinda has middle child syndrome rn

[limber tartan]

WIth the damage buff and charged sword it makes quick work of anything like crushers and maulers

I tried obscurus but i personally feel like it suffers from the same issue that MK2 dueling sword does

[bright mica]

you basically dont need slaughterer on deimos gaze since it already deletes

and yeah obscurus is just... in a poor niche rn

[limber tartan]

WHich is that its trying to do everyting at the same time but is not the best at anything

[bright mica]

arguably worse horde-clear than deimos and worse single-target

imho give obscurus back infinite dodge

only obscurus

and bam

you have a niche

[limber tartan]

Not sure if that's the issue

Its pretty much just the attack patterns

[ornate hamlet]

you look like ur about to beat someone up

[limber tartan]

THey're just awkward

[bright mica]

anyway gazelumnus time

anynyan wanna fireteam for some aurics? :3

[near wyvern]

Yup. All the weapons that have "hi mid lo" variant patterns fall into one of the two following cases:

• "hi" and "lo" are optimal in their own way and "mid" is inferior to them in all ways
• "mid" is optimal since hi is either overkill and not enough, lo is just not enough

[limber tartan]

Also anybody having weird issues with the heavy laspistol on any class, whenever i aim my gun model sometimes does really sudden and sharp moves to the right side

[orchid dirge]

worth upgrading?

[bright mica]

no i cant say i ever experienced that problem

[bright mica]

ehh how broke are u

[orchid dirge]

300k

[near wyvern]

Sprint a lot?

[limber tartan]

Its like a twitch to the right which screws up with aiming

[orchid dirge]

oh you mean plasteel im broke

[bright mica]

keep rerolling, stopping power is rather low, ammo can actually dip to 65% and still be alright, that's if you don't mind burning cash

it's an 8.5/10

[orchid dirge]

aight

ill keep playing genshin impact

xD

[bright mica]

stopping power is a damage modifier for flak

and unyielding

carapace too but uh, won't affect u much

[limber tartan]

I don't know how would those 2 things be connected but yea, i have 15 stamina build

[plucky flax]

Where da plasteels picked??

[bright mica]

you can edit your scoreboard

i just dinked some irrelevent shit from it

[lethal lagoon]

"Irrelevent" 😡

[bright mica]

actually mines 61% and it's good enough

[plucky flax]

But plasteels most important.

[lethal lagoon]

Plasteel is the only stat that matters

[bright mica]

i have a mod that shows 0-80% stats

so 95.68% would be on 80%

[plucky flax]

I did that auric maelstrom just now too and got top plasteels as always.

[bleak tulip]

holy spacers

[limber tartan]

only plasteel matters

[lethal lagoon]

Oh damn, a 500+ plasteel run

👍

[plucky flax]

I regularly have 500 or 600+ by myself.

[limber tartan]

Damn

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

Literally doing the emperor's work

[limber tartan]

Gotta try me some of that

[bright mica]

cursed or blessed (yeah thats a shotgun barrel)

think the grip needs a change but otherwise goes hard

[hollow jolt]

make it more cursed pls

[bright mica]

i love that glitch

[frail sand]

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think my eyes could handle finding that much plasteel myself every game

[fading iris]

"that is a nice skin" and then "WHAT IN THE OMNISSIAH'S HOLY NAME"