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#psyker-class
frail sand
cromchy sounds
severe folio
cant tell if las gun does the same though
severe folio
auto guns it is
the voidstrike
i guess im just not used to it
but i dont quite like weapon with projectile travel speed
like the voidstrike
frigid zenith
I've been playing a lot of AM recently on the psyker, so far, my "most effective" builds with the highest win rates have been pure voidstrike, trauma blaze, full smite, and a full support build.
Trauma blaze, pure voidstrike, and gunpsyker builds all have similar damage with the staff builds having more utility.
severe folio
what is AM
frigid zenith
auric maelstrom
severe folio
oh
frail sand
I prefer to play more support psyker in AM, every time I don't play with some stronger CC I find randoms getting overwhelmed
frigid zenith
Trauma blaze probably has the highest damage potential in the game though.
Thats why trauma is so good.
hollow jolt
Trauma blaze probably has the highest damage potential in the game though.
Na that goes to Recon lasgun 💪💪💪
frigid zenith
The denser the mobs the more damage you apply the more shit you set on fire the more damage you do, it has a runaway effect.
shell igloo
Thats why trauma is so good.
I thought rending shockwave was the premier feature of trauma
hollow jolt
Keep in mind you need crit for Blazing Spirit
I love needing Warp Nexus on everything 😩
Hadron pls
severe folio
if you dont want warp nexus you can go with scrier fire trauma
hollow jolt
It's a non-issues.
Tell that to Hadron
frail sand
Hadron only crits me
hollow jolt
Can't get shit
frail sand
with the bricks
shell igloo
Yall thinking Carapace and Unyielding??
frigid zenith
Tell that to Hadron
Ture ture, I think I rolled over 40 trauma staves for my blazing spirit.
frail sand
+crit chance, rending to warp nexus
frigid zenith
Yall thinking Carapace and Unyielding??
yeah, gotta have warp nexus or it's useless.
hollow jolt
Ture ture, I think I rolled over 40 trauma staves for my blazing spirit.
I swear Psyker is going to use more Plasteel than my Vet at this rate
frail sand
im still trying to roll a good columnus V on psyker with double dmg blessings
severe folio
Yall thinking Carapace and Unyielding??
rending shockwave + blazing spirit is a strange in between, you are not doing good at either
frail sand
maybe just keep the stamina, ranged crit dmg to crit chance, rending to warp nexus, and it's still pretty good
the blast radius is a bit unfortunate
frigid zenith
trade stam for flak, trade rending for warp nexus.
shell igloo
Awesome, thanks all
frigid zenith
you're not going to kill crushers with blaze but you will absolutly knock them on their ass until dead.
One of the big things playing trauma is trying to be the first person to the packs so you can explode them before they get aggroed.
shell igloo
Right, and I can definitely see the impact that Rending Shockwave makes with how quickly my team melts monstrosities
hollow jolt
One of the big things playing trauma is trying to be the first person to the pac...
Knife + 3 stamina curios + sprint efficiency
UwU
frail sand
man i went down again to blitz not switching to melee quick enough
frigid zenith
Right, and I can definitely see the impact that Rending Shockwave makes with how...
There's a skill to the timing and riding at certain peril levels to keep your crit higher, you have to get surgical with what and where you are hitting. You want to be getting the kills on speacials and elites so you're properly stacking your soulblaze on big packs.
Use your shriek offensively on big packs after you kill a few elite to really stack up the soulblaze then go into CC mode where you're protecting everyone while it all dies.
hollow jolt
REAL psykers edge Tzeentch at 99% peril at all times
shell igloo
REAL psykers edge Tzeentch at 99% peril at all times
I approve of this message
frigid zenith
And don't forget that brain burst is actually useful and use it to kill problems before they get to you.
Gunners, shotgunners, yadda yadda.
For a really fun and awesome time with trauma blaze, go play one of the scab melee only auric missions with no ammo pickups and enjoy carrying the entire game.
And one of the reasons you want a good blast radius is becase with that you can basically never get surrounded, just explode shit under your feet and everything around you get knocked down.
hollow jolt
Just don't get let them close UwU
frigid zenith
It gets tough in AMs when your team has no CC.
frail sand
frigid zenith
Basically, you're the CC.
Everyone brought their best dps builds but forgot they can't apply it without CC.
severe folio
before i knew it i have pop 25 charging hounds with bb
frail sand
severe folio
a nurge beast kidnapped me
and brought me to a daemonhost
where it spat me to it
and awaken it
then promptly kill me
this is 30 second into the game
severe folio
your mom had skill issue when she chose to have you
severe folio
good
frail sand
and brought me to a daemonhost
i love when enemies collab and combo u
a trapper seems to always have a flamer buddy
crystal oxide
Huh. Didn't know the Void staff was this effective against armour.
crystal oxide
Crushers just get two tapped, and since the first shot bowls them over, I can take my tip
Complements my assail spam pretty nicely
frigid zenith
Huh. Didn't know the Void staff was this effective against armour.
If you can nail those headshots it's a stagger machine.
Pair it with a mk4 dualing sword.
one shot all the maniacs.
If maniacs aren't an issue, go for a deimos force sword with deflector.
gleaming belfry
frigid zenith
Also remember that the explosions from the void strike impacts stagger so you can rapid fire the secondary basically at your feet to knock back a horde if you really need to.
crystal oxide
Also remember that the explosions from the void strike impacts stagger so you ca...
Yeah I noticed that uh
I was throwing off people's aim lol
So I only really used it for stopping crushers and ragers
And railgunning maulers if they insisted on approaching
frigid zenith
Just remember, with a proper voidstrike build you are literally a sub-orbital ion cannon. Make all the things dead. Win.
The best support psyker is the one that makes everything dead.
I do miss the old voidstrike psyker though, lauching one strike into a horde and watch the entire thing explode.
frigid zenith
voidstriking hordes and making them disappear with the kickback are of equal enjoyment.
primal blade
^ me to the bulwark after i voidstrike the horde
😅 Illisi and voidstrike has and will be my go to
still wondering if i want to keep assail though
frigid zenith
I just can't use the other force swords after deimos, the damage is too good.
primal blade
the Illisi is quick which is what i like about it
it cleaves through hordes like a knife through hot butter
supple skiff
^
primal blade
and still does decent enough damage to bulkier foes
supple skiff
illsi with void is what I run feels great
digital narwhal
Well, no Maniac + Flak and no Unstable Power + Slaughterer, but... it'll do.
supple skiff
playing around witht he dueling sword in the grinder rn though
primal blade
Just remember, with a proper voidstrike build you are literally a sub-orbital io...
what would you actually recommend whicks for voidstrike ?
i got telekine shield dome , assail , kinetic presence and Empowered Psionics
frigid zenith
I'm at work, lemme build it realy quick on the site and ill post it.
summer prairie
(except it's not an elite)
shell igloo
Alright I've gotta say, I'm loving this EP+BB with double-shields
Every elite in the world is my b*tch
digital narwhal
Every elite in the world is my b*tch
Flak Rager is typing...
supple skiff
the new blitz are cool but the changes to BB make it hard for me to run anything else
frigid zenith
what would you actually recommend whicks for voidstrike ?
crimson remnant
this is good, right?
primal blade
the blessings are not ideal in my opinion
obtuse walrus
I'm sorry
primal blade
warp nexus and surge is what i would use
crimson remnant
can change one of them and change one perk
oh, ill search for those, dont have yet
crimson remnant
made this one too, but they dont share the blessings
primal blade
this is good, right?
that +ranged damage i would personally change to flak or carapace
frigid zenith
this is good, right?
Change barrage to surge, change ranged damage to flak damage.
crimson remnant
Change barrage to surge, change ranged damage to flak damage.
ok
frigid zenith
transfer peril is really good.
primal blade
Change barrage to surge, change ranged damage to flak damage.
though bulwarks wear carapace don't they ? wouldn't carapace work better
frigid zenith
You're not doing the best damage to carapace anyways.
crimson remnant
though bulwarks wear carapace don't they ? wouldn't carapace work better
carapace and unarmored
frigid zenith
But you can mulch flak.
You're still going to stagger carapace.
so with tranfer peril instead of warp nexus you'll be able to fire A LOT more.
Like a silly amount more if you're getting your headshots.
which is really fun.
Sail a void strike into a horde and watch your peril basically reset itself.
You're still going to brainburst a lot of stuff too with kinetic flayer.
crimson remnant
ill aim for warp flurry and transfer peril for now then since its my first staff... then i keep the farm
primal blade
damn even in the meat grinder
Full warp charge
just by spamming the voidstrike right click
hasty pier
Its not warp nexus, but how is surge?
digital narwhal
Finally, the best Force Sword that money can buy
summer prairie
that's a fairly perfect blazing spirit trauma if you replace surge
hasty pier
yeah I don't have Warp IV yet to slap on though lol
summer prairie
right now trauma surge isn't good unless you run some quell cancel lmb spam build
summer prairie
no, lmb
hasty pier
I don't like carpal tunnel so I'll pass
summer prairie
yes
shell igloo
my other trauma staff
Oi that thing is beautiful bruv. Does Rending Shockwave have a TIV version?
crystal oxide
The moment i go down my entire team gets folded by the horde and specials
hasty pier
find lighter teammates
crystal oxide
My assail and gun carrying the squad lol
primal blade
well now time to wait for the vanguard outfit and see how it matches with the helmet i just got or if i will be sticking to this look
plucky flax
When does free skins come? The 19th?
shell igloo
End of the month is what I heard from a Youtuber
plucky flax
Damn so far away.
primal blade
End of the month is what I heard from a Youtuber
its what fatshark said
in their announcement
primal blade
no need for eyes when the emperor guides us
edgy ibex
Gwyndolin ass mf
somber kiln
staff 😄
edgy ibex
A surge? Run my friend they hunt us
primal blade
Gwyndolin ass mf
at least i am not a twink like gwyndolin xp
ya know its true that boy ain't got any bulk on him
hasty pier
I've decided that as nice as vent spam is, I really like the bonus damage from empowered BB and not having to fight for damn warp charges.
For Fire Trauma + Undecided force sword
also mid tree costs less and lets me pick up some other nice talents
frail sand
any fun builds surrounding use of slab shields
primal blade
in psyker chat ?
fossil snow
Anyone got any tips for redline psykers?
glossy ember
any fun builds surrounding use of slab shields
rock or nuke + taunt or stomp + heavy hitter or fnp keystone
shell igloo
My score after running my EP+BB build in hi-int damnation. I'm a fan
wise escarp
6?.,mnbvcxz5
shell igloo
My score after running my EP+BB build in hi-int damnation. I'm a fan
There were absolutely comical amounts of gunners and rangers at points
crystal oxide
Huh, with a full crit build on a gun spyker build, you can use an ammo effecient gun like the Vraks mk7 to do boss damage
A pleasant surprise for me.
sonic coral
My score after running my EP+BB build in hi-int damnation. I'm a fan
what weapons do you use with that?
Also, I assume bubble shield as well?
shell igloo
Voidstrike for hordes and Mk II dueling saber for onesies and twosies. I run double barrier for specialist stun and the BB speed buff
crystal oxide
Voidstrike for hordes and Mk II dueling saber for onesies and twosies. I run dou...
.. Huh
That's one way to get ragers to stop being asses
THE WALL them
wise escarp
Oh sorry peeps was cleaning my keyboard and didnt notice the typing ..
onyx sentinel
I have an Uncanny Strike 3 banked - swap unarmored to Maniac and riposte to uncanny?
idk how important penetration is without shred
plucky flax
Penetration only works against flak and carapace iirc.
onyx sentinel
oh I thought shred is the rending skill, that's uncanny
hasty pier
oh I thought shred is the rending skill, that's uncanny
is that a pun?
onyx sentinel
hasty pier
how bad is dueling V compared to IV?
frail sand
rock or nuke + taunt or stomp + heavy hitter or fnp keystone
oh lol i meant the psyker wall shield
plucky flax
how bad is dueling V compared to IV?
Fartshart for no reason just gave mk4 the most damage for its heavies attack.
hasty pier
there we go
plucky flax
So.. yeah. Just no reason to use mk5 right now and do less damage.
hasty pier
now to meld crit chance
plucky flax
Even tho mk5 is my favourite. 
hasty pier
hmmm. changeout flak or elite
frail sand
does blast radius matter on void strike i forgor
hasty pier
flak is more universally helpful, but elite damage helps mixed waveclear
glossy ember
oh lol i meant the psyker wall shield
oh
frail sand
i'd be asking in ogryn chat otherwise :3
hasty pier
what do ya'll think
Which should I change out on a fire trauma staff for Crit Chance 5%?
20% flak damage or 8% elite damage
plucky flax
If you use a really op build like handcannon assail then you can use wall.
Change elite keep flak.
hasty pier
Now the only thing left is to get Warp IV and swap it in and its done
plucky flax
Shame damage is not swapped with warp resistance or quell speed.
hasty pier
probably the size of the ball
hasty pier
Shame damage is not swapped with warp resistance or quell speed.
you actually want quell speed on it
plucky flax
You actually want damage too. 
hasty pier
damage is nice but its an okay tradeoff
Because you want to ride at high peril and get stacks of soulblaze
so the up front damage is worse off but you can spam it more due to high peril and quell
frail sand
babi ball voidstrike
plucky flax
Veri cool I also like my blaze trauma.
ember sonnet
ornate hamlet
how do I play psyker
hasty pier
I always find it funny that people buy keep the hilariously shitty rolls just for fun
frail sand
i need to try this 37% blast radius voidstrike
radiant lance
Replace Reload or Unyielding with Flak?
plucky flax
Get rid of reload. 
hasty pier
babi ball voidstrike
onyx sentinel
this is so sad
onyx sentinel
they buffed staff lmb run n gun is cracked
fresh reef
they buffed staff lmb run n gun is cracked
How?
frail sand
imagine drive by voidstrike
onyx sentinel
hasty pier
I'm keeping it because its not worth dismantling or gaining the blessings
also yes run and gun headshot build is funny
frail sand
im selling them bricks for dockets
fresh reef
I'm keeping it because its not worth dismantling or gaining the blessings
It's also not bricked btw
ornate hamlet
how do i learn psyker
fresh reef
The perks are very useable
frail sand
play more psyker
hasty pier
I have a lot of spare staves to build more
onyx sentinel
ye that is an excellent base to swap both blessings
hasty pier
The perks are very useable
If I'm not going to use them, then its a brick
fresh reef
If I'm not going to use them, then its a brick
You're a brick
hasty pier
You're a brick
fresh reef
is it better to farm normal damnation or auric damnation for dockets
Normal damnation unless you fancy your chances of getting teammates who don't suck eggs in auric
hasty pier
now to take this staff out for a ride
still need to decide on which sword I want
because I like both Deimos and Illlllisi
ornate hamlet
how do i learn psyker
plucky flax
is it better to farm normal damnation or auric damnation for dockets
Farm maelstrom it gives the most $$$. 
hasty pier
how do i learn psyker
you level it and learn how to quell cancel
plucky flax
Or HITSG with grims.
ornate hamlet
you level it and learn how to quell cancel
how do i quell cancel
shell igloo
how do i learn psyker
How familiar are you with quidditch, or with support role in games like Overwatch?
fresh reef
how do i quell cancel
Press R during a staff's endlag
ornate hamlet
How familiar are you with quidditch, or with support role in games like Overwatc...
i played mercy in overwatch
hasty pier
Go into psykanium with a trauma staff
Charge RMB, press LMB while still holding RMB
Tap and hold R after casting
You'll notice that you go right into the quell animation
Let go of R while still holding RMB
You'll go right back into charging
Practice the timing of tapping R after RMB cast and you'll notice you can cast RMB very fast
shell igloo
i played mercy in overwatch
So, like Mercy, you're going to be the backbone of the team. When everyone else is tunnel-vision, YOU're going to be the guy in the back stopping threats and saving the day
shell igloo
i played mercy in overwatch
Also like Mercy, you'll get no appreciation for this. Mobs will get past your team and gang on your squishy ass, and no one will turn around the help like you saved them
umbral helm
also known as "the fucker in the back slinging spells" in Dark Souls terms
hasty pier
Psyker and Ogryn do feel like the glue that keeps team comp together
Veteran and Zealot are unhinged murder machines
shell igloo
Veteran and Zealot are unhinged murder machines
Which is an excellent and important role to fill. Many of them just also forget to apply that skill FOR the team
hasty pier
I can now say this after leveling them all to 30
umbral helm
Which is an excellent and important role to fill. Many of them just also forget ...
a lot of people forget there's a team part to the game at all, I've noticed
Main Character syndrome goes hard I guess
shell maple
Psyker and Ogryn do feel like the glue that keeps team comp together
I agree w this assessment, when all played w the same skill level of course
shell igloo
a lot of people forget there's a team part to the game at all, I've noticed
So frustrating when it's fundamentally a team-based game
shell maple
I do appreciate the zealot shout health shield buff tho
umbral helm
a lot of my builds are made with the team at least in consideration, even if they're not the focus. because I realize any real mission I'm realistically not going to be the one doing all the lifting, and if I am, then something is wrong
sonic coral
team? you mean those guys who follow me around and lay on the floor when bad guys show up?
hasty pier
yeah imo the ideal comp the Pskyer and Ogryn are crowd control and anchors for Vet and Zealot respectively.
shell maple
Coherency should remind ppl its a team game
hasty pier
you'd think
plucky flax
Me with my loner aura zealot no need for cohenrency.
supple skiff
Coherency should remind ppl its a team game
laughs in quietude
hasty pier
I had to yell at someone recently who thought that everyone else was going too slow and should be backing them up
no
If 3/4 are in coherency and you're not, you're wrong
even if you think you're right
Because 4/4 doing something stupid is still better than 1/4 doing something right
iron flame
Is this voidstrike bricked ?
fading iris
only thing that will remind ppl that Darktide is a team game is when a class that give movement speed buffs via stims gets released
supple skiff
perks are meh
hasty pier
Its something i had to hammer into people in my old arma group
A bad plan that everyone commits to is better than a good plan that half ignore
supple skiff
little tweakin and a solid staff tho
iron flame
Hmm yea. Figured what i asked what i should be tweaking. I am guessing i should take out Sustained fire and put in something like Wrap Nexus ?
umbral helm
I had to yell at someone recently who thought that everyone else was going too s...
I tend to accompany people that lag behind for this reason, or go way off the path looking for stuff, because at least then there's 2 of us if one gets trapped
sonic coral
I like warp flurry myself
*mcflurry
fading iris
The only right decision in this game is to hug the Daemonhost 
iron flame
it is fine to leave unarmored ?
supple skiff
it is fine to leave unarmored ?
its a less ideal perk but has more value on void than unyeilding
hasty pier
Daemonhost is just cold because they've got almost no clothes and cranky because they just woke up from their nap
iron flame
Alright. Time to go farm blessing for warp flurry i guess
wish we can downgrade diamante for Plasteeel
ornate hamlet
So, like Mercy, you're going to be the backbone of the team. When everyone else ...
right. i just dont get how i use my ability. I just dont use it to be honest, i just shoot my gun
hasty pier
wish we can downgrade diamante for Plasteeel
I wish we could dismantle for gold and mats
or at least have the option between gold and mats
shell igloo
like do I hold the ability, tap fire it idk
Which blitz would you like to know how to use?
ornate hamlet
Which blitz would you like to know how to use?
idk what a blitz is, whatever the ability is when I press G
shell igloo
idk what a blitz is, whatever the ability is when I press G
That's your blitz ability yeah. You'll have the option to pick one of 3 different blitz abilities as you put points into your talent tree
ornate hamlet
That's your blitz ability yeah. You'll have the option to pick one of 3 differen...
oo which does each do. I wanna use a big staff if that helps
shell igloo
In short:
o Brain Burst (probably what you have now) strong single target dmg, you have to charge until the bar fills all the way. Great for dealing with important enemies, like hounds.
o Smite - Stuns groups of enemies with lightning. Powerful for controlling hordes.
o Assail - Think like Yandu from Guardians of the Galaxy. You throw homing shards; good for clearing weaker enemies but not great in any one area.
crystal oxide
It took playing Psyker to learn the importance of my main Vet in just, do their job as an anti shooter/ranged elite
fluid knot
Me with my loner aura zealot no need for cohenrency. <:whatthefuck_heresy:104972...
People mald about that talent until you save their asses with it
Is funny
crystal oxide
Psyker has plenty of horde clear and CC, let you guys do your work
tribal patio
what are the best blessings for the assault chainsword?
plucky flax
People mald about that talent until you save their asses with it <:KEKW_ogryn:10...
I genuinely think it's the best aura for zealot and not memeing about it.
fluid knot
I genuinely think it's the best aura for zealot and not memeing about it. <:star...
Nope, i totally agree with you. Might even be one of the best in the game overall
plucky flax
If I don't get disabled then loner + stealth gives me the hard carry.
fluid knot
Its just so versatile, you can push situations where barely anything else can and survive against odds no other character can. Hard carry talent of the year
ornate hamlet
In short:
o Brain Burst (probably what you have now) strong single target dmg, ...
is o smite the purple lightning thing
glossy ember
shame loner aura doesn't let your teammates be temporary loners too
ornate hamlet
Benediction giving you and everyone else 15% toughness DR tho
normal matrix
I still dislike it on the principle of darktide being a 4-player co-op game which heavily incentivizes sticking together
plucky flax
Benediction giving you and everyone else 15% toughness DR tho
This aura on vet can be taken for 1 point and is more than benediction.
normal matrix
It never hurts to have a clutch moment but often such flashy coinflips do not end well or could have been avoided by everyone not being a sea of poxwalkers away from eachother
ornate hamlet
Provided there's a vet
shell igloo
is o smite the purple lightning thing
Yeah it's the purple lightning. If you release your channel, you'll deal a large amount of stagger to everything you were shocking.
ornate hamlet
Yeah it's the purple lightning. If you release your channel, you'll deal a large...
whats the one with the blue lightning
shell igloo
whats the one with the blue lightning
That's the Surge staff. It deals high single target dmg
ornate hamlet
That's the Surge staff. It deals high single target dmg
its not a type of blitz?
steel flame
That's smite
silent coral
Is this voidstrike bricked ?
unarmored to flak and sustained fire to warp flurry?
steel flame
Not to be confused with smiting people with brain rupture
shell maple
@umbral helm u sound like an awesome teammate 👍
limber tartan
Soo we're getting both of the skins from the previous announcement and this update in this month right ?
frank moat
Sounds like it
limber tartan
That's pretty neat, hoping for a new ost for that mission too
glossy ember
anyone knows if elite damage perk is calculated similarly to armor damage
or is it shit like weakspot damage
umbral helm
That's pretty neat, hoping for a new ost for that mission too
this time, they throw a dialup machine in there alongside the church organ and printer
ornate hamlet
Elite damage works the same as other armor damage perks
Weapons don't have a separate "elite" part that fucks up the calculation like weakspot and crit damage do
glossy ember
Elite damage works the same as other armor damage perks
coolio thanks, i'll give it a shot then
ornate hamlet
It's nice if you filled your breakpoints for most of them and want to squeeze more out of the rest
umbral helm
yeah, difference between elite/specialist damage to the perks like damage against unyielding has always felt like a choice between specialization or doing more to most everything but less overall
near wyvern
Elite damage works the same as other armor damage perks
No it doesn't
idle bay
Whoo-hooo! Nurge Infested Red Light District incoming! Poor vets....
glossy ember
No it doesn't
incoming it's actjally as bad as weakpoint
ornate hamlet
my brain is ruptured triyng to understand the class
near wyvern
Unfatshark me
Elite and special damage fall into other buffs
long wharf
well that just means he's right
ornate hamlet
Though that means they are multiplicative like armor damage, doesn't it?
ornate hamlet
Just not multiplicative with itself or whatever goes inside the parentheses
umbral helm
ah, the part I don't enjoy about this stuff. math
long wharf
ah, the part I don't enjoy about this stuff. math
you can't minmax without math
umbral helm
yeah, I don't
near wyvern
Though that means they are multiplicative like armor damage, doesn't it?
No, they are multiplicative with armour modifier, rending bonus, power and vs armour (i.e. +infested) but additive with warp siphon charges, + ranged damage etc.
Perks like +infested, +flak are multiplicative with everything.
Not the same
ornate hamlet
So armor damage bonuses squeeze better damage out of warp charges, ranged damage and all the jazz, but elite and specialists gets caught in additive limbo
umbral helm
I find statistics interesting but I can't really be arsed to squeeze every little bit out of it that I can. not in the traditional sense, at least. I'll try harder for meme builds, though. because those are at least funny to push to their limits
glossy ember
with 6 ws and 5pt i guess elite damage suddenly doesn't add much
normal matrix
Imagine min-maxxing i just run support psyker and keep my team from burning alive or being filled with a billion holes
near wyvern
So armor damage bonuses squeeze better damage out of warp charges, ranged damage...
Yes
ornate hamlet
Well, ideally you'd have a customizable damage table where you can shove stats and find out what gives more
You can program that if you know the formula, actually
And if you know how to make the formula work on a website or an Excel sheet, you can use that as the UI
long wharf
with 6 ws and 5pt i guess elite damage suddenly doesn't add much
which is why you should always aim for +25% to a preferred group
ornate hamlet
Once I learn Javascript proper in my programming class, I'm pretty sure I'll be fully decked to make a build website or something
long wharf
that and crit chance, unless the weapon/build is already stacking enough crit to be better odds
ornate hamlet
Well, cases and cases, I'd still say
glossy ember
which is why you should *always* aim for +25% to a preferred group
Yeah definitely
5% crit chance suddenly feels a lot higher value than elite/spzcialist
ornate hamlet
If you can't get an important breakpoint on a specific enemy, it's great to have a specific armor type
But if you have a weapon that, for example, already one-shots all but one specialist and doesn't have the funny special, might as well just wail on the guy with what you have and slap something else
Or if you want to cause hellfire into that mixed horde God sent you with a bulwark, crushers and ragers
Elite also means you slap both ragers and both gunners for more damage
Which otherwise are split into 3 separate armor types
glossy ember
Elite also means you slap both ragers and both gunners for more damage
True, but crit chance also technically equally affects all targets
ornate hamlet
In a way it's like crit chance, providing a lesser benefit for a wider group
Crit chance falls at the mercy of RNG too, and rare are the cases where it's good to take over damage
glossy ember
ye
long wharf
Elite also means you slap both ragers and both gunners for more damage
disagree - the extra 10% Elite damage isn't making you "slap" much harder
ornate hamlet
For example, it's fucked up on laspistol because laspistol gets an obscene crit mechanic and you're adding even more to that
But on a force sword you already have shred
long wharf
the point of crit chance is to reduce the mercy of RNGesus
glossy ember
crit chance is nice to raise the floor
long wharf
getting crit damage more reliably is always a better multiplier
ornate hamlet
Yeah, but it's a whole-ass 5% taking up the space of what can be a 25% also affecting your crit damage
Raising your crit chance exclusively benefits the event that triggers your crit damage, but adding damage affects your base damage and that event too
long wharf
Yeah, but it's a whole-ass 5% taking up the space of what can be a 25% also affe...
that 5% is additive to your total crit chance
ornate hamlet
I know, it'd be incredibly ass otherwise
long wharf
and that damage applies to everything you hit
ornate hamlet
Yeah, you're just at the mercy of RNG to make that chance do something
long wharf
the only weapons I don't put crit chance on are ones using a blessing that gives reliable crit chance already
ornate hamlet
What I'm saying is that the chance will be benefitting you exclusively when you crit, while damage benefits you when you do and when you don't
umbral helm
disregard theory of probability, embrace technicality of things always being 50/50 (they either happen or don't)
ornate hamlet
Based
glossy ember
disregard theory of probability, embrace technicality of things always being 50/...
me when i have 2% crit rate and don't crit (it's a 50% chance of critting)
umbral helm
just got the wrong 50
long wharf
What I'm saying is that the chance will be benefitting you exclusively when you ...
the numbers bear out the benefit of taking crit chance
glossy ember
crit is also nice to trigger more mettle, offensive use aside
ornate hamlet
That's another thing
long wharf
on top of that, damage calculations in abstract don't account for crit-based effects you're taking advantage of
glossy ember
ya
ornate hamlet
If I can reliably crit to refresh a crit-based buff so it doesn't run out before the next instance comes up, I find the crit to be in a good spot
glossy ember
If I can reliably crit to refresh a crit-based buff so it doesn't run out before...
the opposite is also true isn't it, if you can already reliably crit enough to keep it up, then you lose one advantage of taking crit
bleak tulip
some people really always find something new to bitch about lmfao
ornate hamlet
Craft my nuts
bleak tulip
the fuck is this about this time
ornate hamlet
Crafting
long wharf
ur mum
umbral helm
someone should've thrown a P in there to fuck it up after the A
shell igloo
Second round of EP+BB in Damnation, let's heckin go
spice oar
So if vets are apparently getting hell guns, think we might get some more force weapons, maybe some new staffs or a halberd or 2?
steel flame
the only weapons I don't put crit chance on are ones using a blessing that gives...
I always put crit chance on laspistol, cause more crit chance on laspistol is never not worth it
spice oar
got any of that optimism to share
Hold faith sibling the road has been long but we are nearly there
steel flame
Maybe we get a force rod that lets us explode people
umbral helm
there's a lot potential stuff to pull from, but it ultimately comes down to how well they can translate the art to something physical. it's a problem Bethesda's had with their lore in Elder Scrolls since after Morrowind
steel flame
there's a lot potential stuff to pull from, but it ultimately comes down to how ...
Well.....they just kinda suck at designing weapons to begin with......
Bethesda I mean
God their original guns are atrocious
umbral helm
I was moreso using them as an example for how they translate the lore to the games. there's so much interesting stuff they could use, but the problem becomes how to actually implement it in a meaningful way. same problem here, just with weapons instead of concepts for story
I'm sure there's like, 10 or 15 different staff concepts they could pull from lore, but they'd have to figure out how to apply them in-game. and, sometimes the effort behind that is more than you'd expect
and that's before you get into balancing
frank moat
So if vets are apparently getting hell guns, think we might get some more force ...
Where are you getting the Hellgun thing from?
dusky palm
It's probably been noted before but Overpowering Souls doesn't seem to work as advertised
Supposed to give an empowered psionics stack on elite kills, but doesn't for at least scab bombers
Doesn't for mutants or dogs but that might be intentional
frank moat
Aren’t they specialists?
dusky palm
It does for snipers and flamers tho
frank moat
Huh
dusky palm
The distinction between elite and specialist seems blurry
umbral helm
I've always found the distinction between the two odd, honestly. they've always just been the same thing to me and the difference feels arbitrary
dusky palm
It really does
glossy ember
Second round of EP+BB in Damnation, let's heckin go
was that 20k boss damage from pure bbing
dusky palm
Like the ability is still strong, but it's frustrating
west stream
Maybe we get a force rod that lets us explode people
Would be interesting to get digital weapons for psyker
umbral helm
the distinction is especially strange when you have a bunch of perks/blessings that work on elites and even bosses, but not many that work specifically on specialists
west stream
If it worked like witchhunters pistols from vermintide
Though cool staff is always nice, just unsure what niches are we missing
dusky palm
the distinction is especially strange when you have a bunch of perks/blessings t...
Even more confusing, I'm pretty sure the skill works with trappers but I would have to double check
But at any rate, it feels like something doesn't add up
I also still want that quell without movement penalty somewhere brain burst can get it because it's still a massive pet peeve that I had that before the overhaul and now I can't
shell igloo
was that 20k boss damage from pure bbing
No, there was a fair bit of rending trauma spam in there
dusky palm
Do the devs actually look in here or is there a forum they read or a submission box or something
glossy ember
No, there was a fair bit of rending trauma spam in there
aw
still neato
good goin lad
orchid shadow
Even more confusing, I'm pretty sure the skill works with trappers but I would h...
Doesn't work on trappers, that's a specialist
dusky palm
Maybe the time I noticed, it was just the base chance on kill that proc'd
still hearth
Do the devs actually look in here or is there a forum they read or a submission ...
I'd avoid all these places
There's the Fatshark forums where they look at for bug reports at least
orchid shadow
All disablers are specialists as they are the only type that specialize in a certain role
dusky palm
I'd avoid all these places
I mean fair, but I just really want to put the quell movement thing in front of someone, even if they tell me no
cyan notch
the forums
dusky palm
Because it's just so fucking annoying after having it pre-patch, and maybe they would be willing to move its location on the tree, but if they don't know some people want that, why would they think to
dusky palm
the forums
To the forums I shall go ig
steel flame
Would be interesting to get digital weapons for psyker
???
austere pulsar
Haven't used Deimos, any recommendations for blessings/perks to fix on this?
spice oar
Where are you getting the Hellgun thing from?
Catshark said in chat that she will relay the hell gun requests to the team, which to me is her way of telling us that we are getting new weapons in part 2
steel flame
Example please
west stream
For psyker itd leave hand free so could be combined with some interesting alt fire powers
steel flame
I don't think we have any digital weapons for psykers in lore as far as i know
west stream
do you really want a one shot weapon?
Witchunter pistols were one shot weapons too and vermintide kind of obviated that
But fair
bleak tulip
okay but the entry you posted describes them as "extremely difficult to reload"
steel flame
Witchunter pistols were one shot weapons too and vermintide kind of obviated tha...
That's cause saltz has a coat full of them
bleak tulip
I mean not that rare
west stream
Darktide takes lore on its own way
bleak tulip
specialized IG use them
west stream
Either way, weird weapons from rogue trader could be fun
On account of ship belonging to an actual rogue trader
bleak tulip
on that note why do you think she would give those to us
steel flame
Certain squads use tons of power weapons.....not to mention we kinda work for an Inquisitor......sooooo
west stream
Dunno, rejects get some good shit for a suicide squad
bleak tulip
they make a habit or hoarding and stealing requisitioning things
and we're not really a suicide squad after a point
regular warband members
at least not any more suicide squad than anybody else in 40k
west stream
New Force weapons in general would be interesting foh sure, whichever way they go
west stream
Steal a witchblade from an eldar
Melk, uh, finds a way
Then again selling illegal stuff is more hallowettes thing
ionic needle
Alright guys so hear me out:
tulip trench
build recommendations for using brain burst?
find smite and assail make the game kinda unfun and i end up spamming them all game
west stream
Feels like brainburst could use damage boost or a force aoe
Most builds will be based on using warp charges with it I imagine
strong gulch
Alright guys so hear me out:
Exorcist + blazing spirit on illisi.
ionic needle
Yeah I don't have Exorcist for some reason
bleak tulip
build recommendations for using brain burst?
find smite and assail make the game...
play on higher difficulties and they stop being so oppressive
strong gulch
build recommendations for using brain burst?
find smite and assail make the game...
BB with kinetic resonance, bolstered sheild (x2 casts), and EP.
still hearth
build recommendations for using brain burst?
find smite and assail make the game...
Run Smite and don't take any talents for it and then don't use it unless you have to
That's how I run most of my Psyker builds
Since it feels perfectly good without any nodes for it
If you only use it for CC in really bad spots
tulip trench
Run Smite and don't take any talents for it and then don't use it unless you hav...
smart tbh
it kinda makes me not want to play
when its spammable
glossy ember
Haven't used Deimos, any recommendations for blessings/perks to fix on this?
goddamn wtf
I assume you'd replace stamina with maniacs and exorcist with uncanny strike
austere pulsar
I assume you'd replace stamina with maniacs and exorcist with uncanny strike
Cheers!
tulip trench
also how is vented blast?
opal pebble
strong gulch
Neither is really for crusher or rager management.
Invested in bubble can give toughness.
Wall can stun specials. So for dogs, it'd be the wall.
sturdy dagger
wanna try out copium zealot psyker with scriars etc, what weapon for horde clear funny brutal mometum axe or this illis
hazy cedar
Still isn't a krak grenade
To be fair krak grenades aren't that great anyway
strong gulch
Bottlenecking the dogs and stabbing away works too.
echo frigate
To be fair krak grenades aren't that great anyway
One taps are nice
hazy cedar
True, they just have one use and do only that. They do it very well, but shredders are extremely versatile. Plus they kill anything that isn't a crusher, and if you have any source of rending or onslaught the damage they do to crusher packs is respectable
sturdy dagger
wanna try out copium zealot psyker with scriars etc, what weapon for horde clear...
better question, how do yall horde clear with illis? spam active? just lights? heavies? or some mix
strong gulch
wanna try out copium zealot psyker with scriars etc, what weapon for horde clear...
Idk about zealot things, but illisi for horde clear.
hazy cedar
Heavy. Light, repeat.
I use active for mutants or if I'm approaching a horde/hard target.
dusky palm
I vary it for illisi, but with the roll on mine I can practically just chain light attacks and horde clear through heresy, on damnation I need to be a bit more strategic with light vs heavy vs empowered
strong gulch
better question, how do yall horde clear with illis? spam active? just lights? h...
Heavy specials will clear quickly, but weaving in lights if it's not safe can do the trick.
You can charge the special and have enough time to push (not push attack), then attack.
Special to rager head will stun them.
still hearth
I usually only use the special to get a big cleave and then spam
Or if I need toughness
But I don't use it much
sly dust
best staff?
plucky flax
Random dude invite me to strike team for maelstrom I'm scared.
cedar wren
When using disrupt destiny, it say enemies had a chance of being marked , is this same mark players use to highlight enemies?
tulip trench
better question, how do yall horde clear with illis? spam active? just lights? h...
spamming lights works well enough for me for holding back hordes,
i try to continuously empower and heavy while moving back and forth if i have the space/bottlenecking
but ya if you start getting overwhelmed, spam light and switch back to empowered heavies once you have breathing room
hollow jolt
Random dude invite me to strike team for maelstrom I'm scared.
Happened to me once too
Was at least nothing too bad
Just helping with a hard mission
still hearth
When using disrupt destiny, it say enemies had a chance of being marked , is th...
No
They glow blue-ish
And also
It's not a chance
It's 100%
It's just a random enemy based on some criteria
strong gulch
best staff?
They all have their uses. Play around with them to see what you like.
Some of them need high rolls to feel good.
still hearth
Voidstrike is very good single target
Purgatus has the best horde clear in most situations but Trauma can do mostly the same thing and it doesn't really have much else
strong gulch
But sometimes marked targets don't glow.
still hearth
Surge is in a weird spot. The bug makes it really good at targeted damage. Warp Charges make it spammable instead but the TTK is kinda low for a weapon that only damages one enemy,.
Especially when Voidstrike kills the same targets faster
strong gulch
Also the surge damage has multiple ticks of damage, but the main big hit happens at the end which can least to a lot of your damage being dealt to dead enemies because someone killed the thing you were surging.
still hearth
The one thing you can do is weapon swap to trigger it early
strong gulch
It's great for specials tho. It's my preferred staff even without EP and blitz swap cancel.
cedar wren
But sometimes marked targets don't glow.
Yea Im noticing ...is this something people avoid using ? Do hear allot about it
Dont
viscid matrix
Trauma is probably the best overall
no way, its awkward as hell to use
Void and surge do more damage
viscid matrix
i guess you enjoy looking up in the sky to target enemies further away
strong gulch
Yea Im noticing ...is this something people avoid using ? Do hear allot about it
It's good when it up. It's easy to get stack back. It's less costly than warp siphon. Some build work better with DD too.
still hearth
i guess you enjoy looking up in the sky to target enemies further away
I do actually.
It's the most enjoyable staff even with the jank
I wish Purgatus had a niche
It's why I want Void and Trauma to lose the big AoE
strong gulch
Trauma is good, but yes it has a play style that turns a lot of folks off.
still hearth
So that it has more of a niche
viscid matrix
It's why I want Void and Trauma to lose the big AoE
Voids aoe is tiny
still hearth
It's the cleave yeah
Not the AoE
It should cleave 1 or 2 poxwalkers, not like 8 of them.
Either that or make Purgatus do like 200 DPS to all armor types that's fine too
cedar wren
What build would recommend for maximum survivability
viscid matrix
never understood why purga does such small damage against armoured targets
viscid matrix
What build would recommend for maximum survivability
#1158835513789272126 check out builds here
still hearth
What build would recommend for maximum survivability
Uhh, good question. There's many answers to that tbh
The best survivability comes from killing stuff fast imo
I think the one that requires the least skill is probably Shriek + Surge + Smite
And by least skill that also means least brain power
So you don't need to care as much, just use the things
Alternatively Shriek + Purgatus + Assail is pretty good.
Swap out Purgatus for Trauma if you want better damage but more janky aim
cedar wren
Thank you will give it a shot
strong gulch
There's also all of the toughness and toughness regen nodes.
Bubble shield with toughness regen.
+3 stam curio + kinetic deflection node for more dodges and blocking.
sturdy dagger
alright zealot psyker might be my new go 2 that was pretty mental
i think im a scriars enjoyer now
strong gulch
Melee scriers + DD is bonkers
strong gulch
oh disrupt destiny?
yip
sturdy dagger
i didnt use that cause i thought it was ass and also bugged lmao?
i just use EP for occassional assail spam
still hearth
Disrupt Destiny is kinda mid
strong gulch
It's not ass, but it is specific. Enemies don't glow sometimes. You'll get stacks even though you didn't hit a glowing enemy.
idle bay
Siblings: so Xbox players can't see PC players pinging items and don't see chat and don't hear voice chat?
still hearth
It has its moments though
strong gulch
Yip
sly dust
They all have their uses. Play around with them to see what you like.
Some of ...
the surge staff has the lightning attack instantly peak
copper perch
theres no way to do any game solo is there? i just want to work on some penances
strong gulch
the surge staff has the lightning attack instantly peak
what?
idle bay
Sp when pleyars ignore medkit/ammokit/book right under their nose - they are not morons they are just can't it because of lame cross-play?
sturdy dagger
there are private matches i believe
copper perch
private matches need one other player it seems
sturdy dagger
the surge staff has the lightning attack instantly peak
it is pretty peak rn with the bug but its gonna fall off when it gets patched kek
ionic needle
Surge is good with warp charges too
sly dust
it is pretty peak rn with the bug but its gonna fall off when it gets patched ke...
ill still keep using it mad fun to use
strong gulch
theres no way to do any game solo is there? i just want to work on some penances
No. There is a mod that lets you solo. It puts you in offline mode. It can be paired with the bot spawner mod so you can despwan them.
sly dust
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1170291096010629140/m...
ow my retina
sturdy dagger
what dueling sword is that though? i see it has shred and the uh crit chance on dodge?
strong gulch
right click charge up attack
The surge staff charge attack come out quickly, but the main damage happens on the last tik of damage.
sturdy dagger
what dueling sword is that though? i see it has shred and the uh crit chance on ...
though im prolly gonna run uncanny and shred
vagrant frigate
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1170291096010629140/m...
I've played like this
strong gulch
what dueling sword is that though? i see it has shred and the uh crit chance on ...
It's the mk 4 dueling sword with shred + riposte. Mettle and Empathic Evasion talents are also used.
sly dust
there are nurglites in your walls
strong gulch
FYI schizo like that is ableist.
sturdy dagger
sly dust
glossy ember
<a:ok_and:854013207974772736>
is he eating concrete
vagrant frigate
i will become the schizo psyker
JOIN ME
sly dust
is he eating concrete
im pretty sure thats ice
glossy ember
what the hell
vagrant frigate
i am leader of schizo players
sly dust
but concrete would be a good alternative mmmmmm concrete
strong gulch
Committing to the term. Not surprised.
sturdy dagger
Mald
glossy ember
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1170291096010629140/m...
ok what's that filter, was pretty cool
glossy ember
oh
sturdy dagger
tulip trench
can shred even appear on dueling swords? ive yet to see a single one
hasty valve
Which one has the best base stats in your opinion?
harsh urchin
first target
orchid dirge
1st one
sly dust
Which one has the best base stats in your opinion?
1st one def
humble bolt
first target op
hasty valve
Now watch Hadron brick it
elder jackal
does true aim work with assail?
hasty valve
Never really heard of anyone promoting Blazing but a lvl 3 deflector doesnt sit right with me. And obviously wish the perks were 4s
vagrant frigate
i am a certified schizo player in this server
sly dust
deflector does look pretty good
hasty valve
deflector does look pretty good
What about blazing? Is it worth it. Dont think ive ever even heard of it 😄
sly dust
same ngl
sturdy dagger
what do u need to know
Everything really, I kinda just slapped on scriars with a rending revolver and ran it, worked well but idk anything beyond that. I'm going 2 bed though so either dm me or maybe I find u tomorrow
sly dust
Everything really, I kinda just slapped on scriars with a rending revolver and r...
schizo psyker is just zealot with extra steps 
sturdy dagger
Exactly, im bored of staffs but have psyker contracts 2 do
sly dust
use the madness special or whatever its called ability spam funny
hasty valve
Any suggestions here?
worthy scaffold
finnaly happen
fresh reef
how exactly is one meant to solo a BoN with melee?
harsh urchin
Any suggestions here?
Blazing to whatever you want, unarmored to whatever you want
hasty valve
Blazing to whatever you want, unarmored to whatever you want
Thanks. Thinking either uncanny or slaughterer, and for perks prob maniac
winged phoenix
Thought I was on for some fun as I nabbed this from Brunt
Lo and behold, the damned tech priest had other ideas
harsh urchin
43 mobility knife is bricked anyways
lethal lagoon
Yeah... if you can't zoom get out of the room, or something.
winged phoenix
Oh, I was under the impression Mobility was the flat out dump stat of combat blades with Psykers
tulip trench
overpowering souls or biolodestone?
winged phoenix
Hmm, just comparing it to a 78% mobility dagger, does seem incredibly negligible, Difference of 0.16 on Movement speed and around 4% on dodge distance.
Well, will give it a whirl in Damn and see how it fairs
fresh reef
how exactly is one meant to solo a BoN with melee?
update: literally just standing in front of it lol
harsh urchin
I mean if the difference is 0.16, that's 20-25% difference in movespeed bonus
fresh reef
pierce right through it to the weakspot
harsh urchin
pretty significant lol
ornate hamlet
Your name and drip seems familiar, I wonder if we played together at one point
thorn cedar
Is possible. I only do Aurics if that narrows it down at all
ornate hamlet
Doubtful then. I don’t think I’m high enough level to do aurics
Must just have been someone similar
charred bay
near wyvern
how exactly is one meant to solo a BoN with melee?
You need a fucking good ladder on a ledge where you can hit the slug below
thorn cedar
It's mostly a patience game, and you want a proper arena.
Stab them in the face, dodge when they vomit. If it gets a stack on you, run around until it's gone. Rinse and repeat.
It's very unfun.
ornate hamlet
Sounds it tbh
thorn cedar
But it's totally doable if you aren't trapped in a shitty hallway lol
The one thing I learned is to not trust the visual of the vomit attack. Dodge twice in one direction, not once. Just having it clip you a single time adds so much headache to the fight and increases the odds of other bullshit spawning in.
lethal lagoon
Anyone else notice t5 maelstroms get downgraded when bots are in the game?
I beat a mael with me and a lvl 29 lmao. The spawns just decreased so much when the mission expired and we got stuck with 2 bots after the other two predicatibly died(wern't exactly high lvl either) then left.
steel flame
Anyone else notice t5 maelstroms get downgraded when bots are in the game?
Are you talking about the game spawning less enemies?
Or that the game is worse with bots
lethal lagoon
I mean the game is literally easier, not nessarily less enemies but less elites for sure.
fewer specialists
lethal lagoon
I never noticed it outside of t5 maels though.
steel flame
Though bots are light-years better in vermintide
My bardin bot and sister of the thorns bot are better than most of the people that end up joining
Dark tide bots might as well not be there, they even suck as meat shields
And they sure as hell can't pick you up
harsh urchin
The problem is the difficulty scaling in vt is borked lol
They wanted the deed system to be the one that added difficulty, but they fucked it up
steel flame
Deeds suck
harsh urchin
So you end up with 5 dead difficulties and cata
Where all the good players are
So every time you play champion or legend
crimson remnant
harsh urchin
You end up with people who are just worse than bots
crimson remnant
This is a start
harsh urchin
This is a start
I suggest crit to elites or cara
lethal lagoon
tbf, it kind of looks like you folded them.
steel flame
You end up with people who are just worse than bots
If you kit the bots right they can be better than cata players too. But that's mainly sister and iron breaker
harsh urchin
Due to that fact that going from 40% crit to 45% is not super impactful
lethal lagoon
I mean they shouldn't have tried to save you like that. But still
harsh urchin
Compared to a diff perk
lethal lagoon
My pub win rate went up so much when I stopped trying to save people unless it was free.
fresh reef
net hitboxes never cease to amaze me
harsh urchin
the **moment* I go down the team folds
This looks like it was on you tbh 😂
gaunt stone
does rending shockwave stack per a psyker?
fresh reef
I mean they shouldn't have tried to save you like that. But still
one of them had revive, they just didn't quite time it right
steel flame
does rending shockwave stack per a psyker?
16 stacks max
fresh reef
This looks like it was on you tbh 😂
probably just scoreboard brainrot I guess
the other two vets had very comparable damage to Ibram
harsh urchin
Damage doesnt really matter lol
gaunt stone
how did you get your scoreboard to look so clean?
harsh urchin
The scoreboard is a good tool for seeing your performance and evaluating it
steel flame
Damage doesnt really matter lol
Copium
steel flame
Lol
I feel that
Both
Gonna be real kinda got screwed by the blessings and the perks there
Powderburn is good at least
Used to kinda suck
steel flame
I'd say change sprint to maniac
still hearth
steel flame
Least powder has a damage increase now instead of just being useless
keen slate
Should I get it?🤔
still hearth
But most enemies can't be suppressed
harsh urchin
Vanessa is a troll don't take the bait 😂
steel flame
Wish they had just toned down how hard shredder staggered instead of gutting pinning fire
still hearth
It only helps against shooters and gunners basically
Groaners too I guess
Reapers maybe? But that's a lot of bullets
That's four enemies out of all that it does anything to
steel flame
Melee enemies get suppressed too -_-
harsh urchin
Wish they had just toned down how hard shredder staggered instead of gutting pin...
They did that as well heh
still hearth
I'll need to see proof because last testing I did they didn't get suppressed by anything
harsh urchin
By raising stagger thresholds
still hearth
But that was before patch 13
harsh urchin
On relevant enemy types
still hearth
Only shooters, stalkers, gunners, reapers and groaners got suppressed
patent peak
looks like most ppl prefer mk iv duelling sword over the others could anyone explain why
quick heron
combos, all lights horde and heavies for single target
kind jay
poke goes brrrr
strong gulch
The damage on the heavies is also higher.
still hearth
looks like most ppl prefer mk iv duelling sword over the others could anyone exp...
The heavies do considerably more damage
patent peak
ic
still hearth
Even on the same poke hits
west stream
good for poking weakspots on armored dudes
silk hawk
looks like most ppl prefer mk iv duelling sword over the others could anyone exp...
Bcuz it's simple to use, i prefer mk 2 thou...
still hearth
Nah
The values are actually just better on mk4
It's not simplicity
They just buffed mk 4 pokes and not the others for no reason
silk hawk
It's not simplicity
Don't feel those dif in my runs
patent peak
ive always been a mk v enjoyer i like the overheads but better damage is hard to argue against i should just learn mk iv if it has better damage
silk hawk
I tried mk4, i dont like it, i stick to mk2
still hearth
That's fine but mk4 does like 50% more on the stabs than the others if you crit/weakspot
silk hawk
Ez as that
patent peak
other news i got a force sword recently with sum good fkn modifier stats as far as I can tell i just need to throw some good perks and blessings on it
still hearth
other news i got a force sword recently with sum good fkn modifier stats as far ...
Well you want to swap blazing spirit too so
Not very good sadly
plucky flax
I hope vet rework patch won't nerf my handcannon assail. 
silk hawk
Obscurus is the worst of them, but thats just my opinion
patent peak
Well you want to swap blazing spirit too so
f
wide galleon
other news i got a force sword recently with sum good fkn modifier stats as far ...
the r1 deflector feels 
still hearth
patent peak
its all i got rn
still hearth
Deflector isn't worth it imo
still hearth
It used to be funny when it worked on revives
Now it's just bad
Fight me Agent
I'll do it
plucky flax
No I need my deflector crutch.
gilded moth
What're some must have psyker talents
plucky flax
Even when I am playing duelling sword I think I have deflector.
I hold block against shooters then die. 
patent peak
didnt even know u could put deflector on ds
still hearth
What're some must have psyker talents
Perilous Combustion and the middle aura
still hearth
didnt even know u could put deflector on ds
You can't
fresh reef
after losing another game with level 40s the loading screen hit me with this one
smfh
silk hawk
Combustion sux )
fresh reef
Combustion sux )
wrong
fresh reef
It's effective in s so few situations that it's just not worth it...
please be bait
I legitimately cannot tell anymore
gilded moth
Started a new psyker and I just feel weak playing it. Something touches me once and half my hp is gone 😂
plucky flax
I dunno sometimes it's good sometimes it does like 8% damage.
silk hawk
Pre nerf it was fine, but after is just bad...u are free to use it thou...
plucky flax
But it's only 2 points investment so I always take it.
silk hawk
But it's only 2 points investment so I always take it.
Don't have those... I rather take more tough regen...
plucky flax
Soulstealer or quietude what else do you need?
Pre 13 you can only get 1 or the other.
Now you can get both.
sage salmon
Started a new psyker and I just feel weak playing it. Something touches me once ...
me too
silk hawk
Ye the problem i usually can take only one of those
sage salmon
i'm getting my ass handed
stuck bridge
how have people enjoyed the non-bugged surge build
sage salmon
the only thing that keeps me alive is the catachan sword
stuck bridge
thumbs up or down
sage salmon
assail?
novel mauve
Started a new psyker and I just feel weak playing it. Something touches me once ...
Toughness curios and stick very close to teammates
silk hawk
how have people enjoyed the non-bugged surge build
It's good, a bit balanced then bug one
But it's good
sage salmon
and goes wherever they want
gilded moth
How often to you aim with the assail skill instead of spam
sage salmon
i'm doing revolver holy sword combo
plucky flax
You have to keep the cursor aimed at enemies.
gilded moth
I think it costs 25 instead of 10
sage salmon
How often to you aim with the assail skill instead of spam
very often
i can throw only 4 if i aim
i only spam on crowds
novel mauve
How often to you aim with the assail skill instead of spam
Aim for dreg heavy gunners and scab laz gunners, bombers, and trappers
Everything else spam
Flamers too
stuck bridge
It's good, a bit balanced then bug one
yeah im doin warp charges and i feel generally the same way
plucky flax
I use assail like 90% of a maelstrom game.
sage salmon
wich blades do yall recommend?
plucky flax
Xd
silk hawk
Wow u killed a bunch of meat that would be dead in 2 sec of u would have teammates, not even counting a fact that it's not moving here
My applause...
plucky flax
wich blades do yall recommend?
I pair my assail build with duelling sword mk4 for single target damage.
fresh reef
Wow u killed a bunch of meat that would be dead in 2 sec of u would have teamm...
aight this is def bait and I wasted 28 mb of my hard drive to try and argue with it
fml
silk hawk
wich blades do yall recommend?
Ds2 or 4, or force sword deimos or illisi depends on what u need
still hearth
Bad
spice veldt
b
sage salmon
1 point cost for a talent that scales with/special density
one up some big guys and slay mass crowds
silk hawk
Bad enough for me to not spend that point on it
spice veldt
mhm
fresh reef
is purg still considered the worst staff in The Meta™️?
harsh urchin
unbugged surge is probably the worst
plucky flax
silk hawk
Surely
harsh urchin
If it didnt do double dmg and had smite talents I doubt anybody would use it
Over VS or anything else tbh
plucky flax
So what about the people using surge with warp charges keystone?
still hearth
So what about the people using surge with warp charges keystone? <:staregryn:102...
They're the worst
still hearth
is purg still considered the worst staff in The Meta™️?
Pretty much
plucky flax
still hearth
I'm gonna try warp charges again
And suffer when it takes me 3s+ to kill a single poxhound
silk hawk
At least u dont need to aim xD
half jacinth
Is a build based on Soulblaze useful, anyone got some insight on it?
bleak tulip
yes#
whole oxide
depends with which weapons, but generally yes
bleak tulip
wildfire is bad but perilous and creeping are goat
purg is perfectly fine to use
SB good
full bane
Be honest Spark’Eds, am I handsome?
bleak tulip
the most handsome, big guy
half jacinth
Sweet, been using Smite/Shield so much, hard for me to want to do anything else. Just feels too good lol
hasty pier
If the ladies don't find you handsome big guy
At least they'll find you with a neat sword
I think that's how the saying goes. Right?
arctic nimbus
Is warp battery working for anyone else? Just managed 330 seconds in malice threat… nothing popped
hasty pier
Less than 76% burn ain't that bad? Right?
harsh urchin
it's pretty bad
robust sierra
I have so many staffs and I don't know which are good and which are bad lol
what blessings should I put on the surge staff?
still hearth
I guess Warp Charges on Surge is fine
floral thorn
Is warp battery working for anyone else? Just managed 330 seconds in malice thre...
has to be done on heresy
still hearth
(Lets ignore the fact that we had a bot and our other Psyker died a lot half the match)
orchid shadow
what blessings should I put on the surge staff?
There aren't many for Surge. The ones you should be using are Warp Nexus and Warp Flurry
robust sierra
right
god I just have so many
psyker's stuff is the class I least understand when it comes to blessings
for instance this is one of many
good roll, shit blessing
should I take it up and see what I get?
or is it bricked already
like there's this one, but the stats are significantly lower
orchid shadow
It's not bricked.. yet.
orchid shadow
That's another brick in Hadron's wall..