psyker-class

[rare storm]

ah carry on mb

[clear heath]

but if someone picks me up while a sniper is aiming at me, i'd rather live

[glossy ember]

25% maniac/unyielding:
6 Warp charges 0 Perfect Timing:
5: Crusher (89 hp left),
4: Reaper, Crusher (2 crits), Mauler, Mutant (200 hp left) Bulwark (109 hp left)
3: Bulwark (1 crit), Reaper (2 crits), Mauler (1 crit), Mutant (1 crit), Maniac Rager (122 hp left), Flak Rager (1 crit)
2: Gunners, Flamers, Dog, Maniac Rager (1 crit), Shotgunners, Flak Ragers (2 crits)
1: Flamers (1 crit), Sniper, Bomber, Trapper, Dog (1 crit), Shotgunners (1 crit)

6 Warp charges 5 Perfect Timing:
5: Crusher (89 hp left),
4: Reaper, Crusher (1 crits), Mutant (200 hp left) Bulwark (109 hp left), Mauler (50 hp left)
3: Crusher (3 crits), Bulwark (1 crit), Reaper (1 crits), Mauler (1 crit), Mutant, Maniac Rager (122 hp left), Flak Rager
2: Bulwark (2crits), Gunners, Flamers, Dog, Maniac Rager, Flak Ragers (1 crits), Mutant (2 crits)
1: Flamers (1 crit), Sniper, Bomber, Trapper, Dog (1 crit), Shotgunners

tl;dr

Flak should always be on a surge staff

[hollow jolt]

Surge bad

Recon good

Got it

[glossy ember]

Maniacs is... okay

[worthy dune]

Up the warp nexus to 4 and try to get warp flurry or leave warp 3 and change sprint efficiency?

[still hearth]

How many times did you test it since surge has random damage?

[glossy ember]

uh i spent the last 30 minutes hitting several times mobs to get non crit and crit variants

[still hearth]

Roll a new one

[glossy ember]

and seeing if those were consistant

[worthy dune]

poo

[still hearth]

I'd do Flurry and sprint to Flak

If you don't want to roll

[glossy ember]

you see me write leftover hp

[worthy dune]

well just as a placeholder till I roll better

[glossy ember]

those work as potential error margin i guess

[frozen osprey]

fragus mcschorgenboerg

[rare storm]

I would do flurry and get flak, then farm for a better staff

You'd want more quel speed on the surge anyway

Shit builds perill fast

[glossy ember]

actually maniacs ons ruge bad because it doesn't help with breakpoints outside of maniac rager

[still hearth]

Doesn't matter

You only quell once between shots

As long as you only need one tick of quelling to fire again

[glossy ember]

so yeah for surge i'd only do flak+carapace or flak+crit rate

[still hearth]

Even two ticks is pretty fast

[glossy ember]

i'd argue flak crit rate might be the better generalist choice here

[rare storm]

At least 70 no?

[still hearth]

Haven't tested it tbh

[rare storm]

75% peril for a max charge on surge before boom boom

Oh wait that might be for trauma

Fuck

[still hearth]

That's no staff rn

What

[glossy ember]

also test environment ALWAYS started at 0% peril

[still hearth]

Trauma can fire at like 95% or something

[glossy ember]

so mileage may vary with higher peril gaming for warp rider

[rare storm]

I think it is the trauma yea, you can get off one full charge starting off from 75%

[glossy ember]

i can't be arsed to test all those tho

[rare storm]

any higher, going to max charge would make you explode

[still hearth]

I think for my surge I have to tick down twice to full charge

But I haven't really put effort into it

And that's without peril reduction

[olive ember]

The only thing that matters is when you unleash the attack psure

At the threshold is ~97 peril

Since 97 is critical peril in code

[still hearth]

It depends on the cast

[glossy ember]

@near wyvern if interested

[still hearth]

Idk if they normalized it though

[clear heath]

lmb can be cast at like 99 and still be fine

same with force sword activations

[still hearth]

Yeah I'm pretty sure force sword can be charged anywhere below 100%

Even 99.99

[rare storm]

ye

[near wyvern]

It's too complicated to remember in the heat of the battle

[strong gulch]

When testing surge staff is pain. It doesn't do the same damage every time. 😩

There's a lower and high range that it seemingly chooses at random. Not talking about fully charging the M2 vs a partial charge.

[still hearth]

Yes

It literally does random damage

With my staff the value seems to be around 100

[glossy ember]

[digital narwhal]

I just take Flak + Crit Chance for Surge since it's simple

[still hearth]

It can do -50 to +50 damage

[glossy ember]

just remember that flak is the best one on surge then take either carapace or crit chance

it's that simple

[pale pilot]

the rng staff can bless you with amazing damage or "i hope you like tapping that rager or mutie four or five times"

[still hearth]

It's not a big difference

But it can sometimes fuck up breakpoints

Which is silly

[glossy ember]

non crits yeah

crits are super consistant though

[strong gulch]

pray for crits

[glossy ember]

scrier

[strong gulch]

heckin no

[pale pilot]

like sometimes when you need a clutch or high stress situation with it it will just say "actually your luck is out" and you can't kill fast enough

[strong gulch]

Proc riposte then switch to surge.

[glossy ember]

it be like that

[still hearth]

Just always crit

[glossy ember]

[rare storm]

Actually why is +10% weakspot damage bad

[clear heath]

because it only affects the damage added by the weakspot

[rare storm]

is it just not calculated properly

ahh

[strong gulch]

darktide math

[clear heath]

doesn't affect the base damage of the hit

only the additional damage

[rare storm]

So it's not a final damage boost

[clear heath]

yeah it's cringe

[rare storm]

Wow that is fucking garbage indeed

[clear heath]

with a number that low, you'd expect it to just work

like why is it only 10% if the calc was gonna be that cringe?

[rare storm]

I assume the same for the 10% crit damage?

[clear heath]

yeah

[rare storm]

Hm. I see

if darktide math is consistent, means this isn't that good then?

[torn palm]

Slaughterer is good for illisi right?

[rare storm]

ye

[torn palm]

Is deflector or slaughterer better?

[rare storm]

eh fuck it I'm just gona download the mod to let me modify my perks and blessings

[rare storm]

Dealers choice

Deflector has it's uses

But I prefer slaughterer

[torn palm]

you want flakiac for it too?

[rare storm]

ye bwoi

infested is okay too I guess

Lets you clear hordes faster

but charging it does the job

[torn palm]

Look at this masterpiece

[rare storm]

mfker

[torn palm]

IKR

[rare storm]

not 80% dmg

A refarm is needed, sibling

[cosmic sigil]

Makes me think. With loner on a zealot, I could go without gunner resistance if I dive as much as possible + ult on gunners...

[torn palm]

yeah true

[rare storm]

[still hearth]

Not 80 mobility and low warp res

Basically trash

[rare storm]

o shit there's new emotes

[torn palm]

doodoo trash sword tbh

[rare storm]

Hold x on it now

record for proof xo

[spice oar]

[indigo portal]

mmmm I don't really know much on the subject, Tyr or Pygex (I think that's his name) probably know. I'll look into it though.

I imagine it's just a weird overly complex Fatshark system moment.

[primal blade]

Siblings !

is this fine to upgrade ?

i mean consecrate

[still hearth]

You're not level 30 right

Save your materials

You'll replace everything at 30

[primal blade]

understandable

the curios are gonna be a pain

i think i'll say fuck off to the curios and just deal with the weapons

[ornate hamlet]

I still don’t know which Psyker to choose

[still hearth]

Buy some and change to XP perk

That's about it

Level faster

[olive ember]

Pick the one that respects the lex atoma

[harsh urchin]

if you're unlucky it heals them 😉

[strong gulch]

Misclicked. sry

[dark stag]

is worth it on psyker (god I wish I had it on vet)

[harsh urchin]

it's a good roll

[strong gulch]

Keep both. Play both.

[dark stag]

ye but does psyker use that?

I've only seen em use like the autopistol

[rare storm]

It's not bad

[dark stag]

hmmmm ok

[rare storm]

Everything's usable rn

[dark stag]

I'll keep for whenever I wanna do gun psyker I guess™

[rare storm]

And the graia's not the at the bottom tier of usable so, small win anyway

[dark stag]

alr

what should I change the perks into tho?

[hazy cedar]

Flak/maniac never a bad idea

[rare storm]

You can always run 3 curios with t4 xp + dockets and when you're lv30 change all xp to curio drop chance

[bronze sierra]

OR you could do what i did and run enough hp bumps to give you 225 hp

[strong gulch]

Love loading into a failed screen.

skill issue

[willow hazel]

Some combination of Maniac/Flak/Unyeilding

[glossy ember]

holy shit boys

i just got my highest damage done

39mins auric histg

surge scrier warp siphon build without PC working out

[willow hazel]

Is that the left click build?

[glossy ember]

no

it's surge staff with scrier

so rmb

[willow hazel]

very bold

[glossy ember]

by the way

pretty sure I managed to blitz cancel the freaking peril overload animation???

Like, at 0:37 here

[late yew]

no, they are very easy now

[glossy ember]

you see the peril overload animation start and then get cancelled.

either it was online jank

or you can blitz cancel peril overload

[near gale]

Well... it's official: t4 lascerate is op on uprising, lol. Who would have guessed... <.<

[glossy ember]

it's a neat lil build

[late yew]

I will, however, point at and ridicule every gun psyker

[near gale]

I really hate using the knife on the psyker, even with t4 lascerate on it...

[orchid shadow]

Were you running Battle Meditation? It can pop you out of overload if it triggers.

[glossy ember]

but goddamn, going 5% crit rate did wonders for my damage on surge staf

[glossy ember]

yeah I am, wow

that's a neat interaction

[near gale]

Until I can get the surge staff, this is sadly my best option for ranged since I can get all of my toughness back. :/

[smoky fractal]

generating and quell peril talents are pretty strong tho

for toughness

[near gale]

I'm not using a staff, yet, so the only real way I can get peril is my brain rupture atm. x.x

Unless I got assail, then I would definitely get the quell gives toughness

[rare storm]

Seems like a lucky battle med pop, one tick of quel isn't exactly 10%

[foggy breach]

Wdym by blitz cancel

[rare storm]

[glossy ember]

nah forget it it was a battle meditation trigger

[glossy ember]

yeah just watched again lol

[glossy ember]

this is what i go for for toughness generation

[foggy breach]

Nothing can save me from exploding then

[glossy ember]

works nicely

[near gale]

I don't like assail without the upgraded version of psykinetic's wrath, tho, since it is so easy to accidentally blow yourself up... and that helps a lot with getting rid of peril decently quickly

[near gale]

My 2nd psyker is only level 5 atm. x.x

[rare storm]

shouty boy venting

[foggy breach]

I require Dome

[glossy ember]

second psyker

[rare storm]

Then play better

[foggy breach]

Working on that

[near gale]

Yeah, I got 2 psykers, 3 zealots, and I'm trying to decided between 2 vets and 2 ogryns...

[rare storm]

Good luck sibling

[foggy breach]

I managed to only blow up like, twice on my last mission

[rare storm]

I've had to totally disregard using venting for awhile to get rid of the crutch reliance awhile ago

[near gale]

I got the mod that lets me have 12 loadouts, which also lets me have up to 8 characters... so I thought "Eh, might as well make more characters..."

[rare storm]

Twice is.... A lot...

Like, per mission?

[foggy breach]

Don't worry about it

I am definitely not a liability

[willow hazel]

Just gotta get used to it. A lot of gun builds run Assail w/o Venting Shriek

[glossy ember]

wait how is venting a crutch

[foggy breach]

There are no demons in my head

[rare storm]

Hmm, do you run solidity? Could help you in most situations

[clear heath]

it's only a crutch if you use it as a crutch

[primal blade]

UGH :C THE TEMPTATION

[rare storm]

^

[near gale]

Personally I also would prefer brain rupture, right now, for dealing with crushers while leveling. They would be the main difficulty for what I can run atm...

[rare storm]

I used to only use venting when I get to 100 peril lol

horrible habit

[near gale]

I'm gonna do this until I can get a reliable way to generate peril(aka: probably the surge staff)... :/

[glossy ember]

that sounds not great

[near gale]

It's sad, but, I only have 5 talent points atm x.x

[primal blade]

voidstrike can generate a lot of peril

[rare storm]

ANY staff

[near gale]

The only staff I have access to atm is the trauma staff

[rare storm]

Hell, even force swords give you peril lol

[primal blade]

how does the chainsword compare to the illisi ?

[near gale]

I am not using the obscurus force sword lol

I hate that one lol

[clear heath]

I've heard they made the unupgraded version of venting shriek reduce peril by 10% now, so you can probably still save yourself when you fuck up

[glossy ember]

wouldn't this be better

[near gale]

Maybe, but, I want the faster brain burst on career skill use

[rare storm]

O you're only lv5

[glossy ember]

fair

[near gale]

These are my level 5 psyker's best melee options atm... and they suck lol

the knife sadly does a bit more than the devil's claw :/

[foggy breach]

What does solidity do again?

[rare storm]

Devil's claw is pretty good ngl

I mean not that one

but

[rare storm]

+30% quell speed

[near gale]

eh... it's just: t4 lascerate is decent on malice and op on uprising and below...

[glossy ember]

stick with devil claw

rampage is bugged and gives you 86% more damage

[near gale]

I don't really want to get used to the bugged rampage, tbh. :/

Then I might rely on it when it gets fixed x.x

I miss the 50% power per thrust stack bug, lol

[rare storm]

Solidity helps alot when you have trouble managing your peril, but again, it's one of those things you shouldn't build a reliance on imo

[foggy breach]

I have it, its just that sometimes I'm in a panic during a horde and drop the ball.
And then sometimes I fuck up the charge attack charge attack quell cycle and explode

[rare storm]

ahhh

[near gale]

Now for a high 3... I would definitely take the catachan >.>'

[foggy breach]

I mean, 30% faster quell is still less downtime

[rare storm]

Well sibling, you already know that I have no others words to say other than two words

[foggy breach]

I must kidnap enemy leader gud

[near gale]

"Try not to get yourself killed, you moron."...? :3

[foggy breach]

FOUR SHORTENED LIFESPANS

[rare storm]

Shiii

[near gale]

I'm gonna get killed for trying this, but, I really want the exp from that high 3 hab dreyko lol

[rare storm]

Ehh you'll be fine

[near gale]

I mean... I have 6 level 30 characters, so yeah lol

[clear heath]

wtf 6

[rare storm]

EHH YOU'LL BE FINEEE

[clear heath]

what classes?

also why?

[near gale]

I have a mod that lets me have up to 8 characters, I got it for the 12 loadouts

[rare storm]

Think he has 4 zealots iirc

[near gale]

3 zealots, 1 psyker, 1 ogryn, and 1 vet

[rare storm]

ah 3

[near gale]

Zealot is my favorite class

[clear heath]

wasn't there a mod that just lets you have more loadouts anyways?

[near gale]

idk

[rare storm]

It's the same mod

[clear heath]

oh

[rare storm]

I think the modder merged the 2

[near gale]

This just lets me have low level characters to use while playing with my friend, since he's a really low level atm

[ornate hamlet]

What Psyker voice do you guys use

[still hearth]

The French Lady

Savant?

It's Seer, Loner and Savant right

[clear heath]

male loner

[near gale]

I think I chose the male savant for this 2nd psyker

[bleak tulip]

I think thats seer

same here

lady seer

[still hearth]

Isn't Seer the crazy one

[bleak tulip]

yeah you right

savant lady best voice

[ornate hamlet]

I like both lady and male seer

So I’m deciding between the two

Turns out I might get more value out of a non-purgatus fire meme by just spamming fire shriek

Seer isn’t French

Gonna run uncanny/shred FS instead

[still hearth]

There's only two legit Soulblaze builds

Purgatus and Trauma

[ornate hamlet]

no

[still hearth]

Yes

One because its all it does

The other because it has a massive AoE that it procs on

[foggy breach]

My beloved says I'm not schizophrenic

Though sometimes I wish there was a way to switch voices

[main tulip]

whats the dump stat on a surge staff?

[glossy ember]

warp res

[foggy breach]

Quell speed, I think

[storm cargo]

So... I'm finally satisfied with my las using tactical psyker build.

[acoustic path]

Quell is always my go to dump stat

[still hearth]

You just need a combo of warp res and quell that lets you quell the least to get another full charged zap

So you can stay at max peril

[primal blade]

almost hit level 30

from one mission

3 psykers 1 vet

the other two had brain bursts and one was flamethrower staff the other electric

and me with my assail and voidstrike as well as dome shields xp

pretty sure the other two had venting shriek

[glossy ember]

btw i take back what I said about struggling with Illisi, slaughterer perk on it makes it feel like a diff weapon lol. so much more cleave

[primal blade]

mhm

Slaughterer makes the illisi fun

[storm cargo]

Well then...

[primal blade]

imma just run a sedition or somethin

have a chill one

[storm cargo]

Lol

I gotta say I'm in love with the protective walls

[plucky flax]

All my homies run creeping flame.

[idle aurora]

Purg with flame is just blue screen simulator

[glossy ember]

huh did you lads know that shotgunners still push you away even when invulnerable to ranged damage

nvm, my toughness was getting replenished

i was getting hit

i think this was my longest mid fight scrier

[plucky flax]

Gazer

[glossy ember]

we do be gazin

the extra movement speed is the best part tbh

[ornate hamlet]

do you guys like female seer or male seer better

[glossy ember]

male seer i think

but i barely heard female seers

[strong gulch]

Female by a long shot for me.

[clear heath]

wait so what is the character order based on?

[ornate hamlet]

i just figure since my Vet is male ill go with female Psykey. but yeah I like female seer

[clear heath]

someone told me it was based off time played, but you have your level 1 char at the top so that can't be it

[glossy ember]

my psyker was always top for some reason

even though i created an ogryn first

[bright mica]

honestly I've been playing so much knife+flamer zealot that I rarely even feel the need to engage most shooters, as for gunners I just rush them even on my psyker unless I'm playing a surge build which by god is it effective but also boring asf

[ornate hamlet]

whys ur pfp a lil guy

[strong gulch]

Mine is least played at the top and most played at the bottom. 🤷

[floral thorn]

why is this so funny

help

[clear heath]

Maybe it's just based off date created then

I could've sworn i made my ogryn second though

maybe i forgot

[orchid shadow]

Jesus christ, that's Json Bourne.

[glossy ember]

u ever met your arch nemesis, Yaml?

[strong gulch]

Mine would be newest on top and oldest on the bottom.

What rolling for whites looks like.

[glossy ember]

look at this speed

[primal blade]

welp i've hit 30

am sure this is not enough for a single weapon xp

[orchid shadow]

That'll get you one shiny orange!

[primal blade]

going to have to rid of these

[bold badger]

sounds like a game I was just in 🧐

[plucky flax]

Welcome to illusi. It's better than devil's claw.

[glossy ember]

only with slaughterer

without devil claw felt better

[primal blade]

was this one of the psykers in your game ?

[plucky flax]

Devil's claw without Savage sweep is ass too.

[bold badger]

nah

[plucky flax]

All weapons need blessings to be at its best.

[glossy ember]

fair, although it still did fine wth devastating strike

[plucky flax]

Well it's still a cleave blessing. Wrath is also good.

[echo turtle]

I finally started using the devil's claw and WOW is that thing amazing

[plucky flax]

Is like combat axe without bm is kinda sad.

[glossy ember]

but yeah i feel like illisi ends up pairing better with surge staff

because much better unyielding/maniac than dc

[visual adder]

Does anyone want a copy of don’t starve together on steam

[plucky flax]

Dc4 heavy 1 does big maniac damage tho

[echo turtle]

Dclaw imo is better than illisi for the parry

But I would also say deimos over illisi for that too so

Ymmv

[plucky flax]

I prefer illisi for comfort of deflector also.

[orchid shadow]

Can't block bullets. Hard pass.

[echo turtle]

I do the same on deimos, but I also want the mobility

[echo turtle]

They can't shoot you if they're dead

[plucky flax]

I prefer illisi by far over deimos. If I want to play a single target sword I'd use duelling sword.

[echo turtle]

Big dodge yo

[glossy ember]

true but i don't think they can one shot muties can it

[echo turtle]

Also, with slaughterer light spam clears hordes fine

[glossy ember]

nah deimos is not the move with surge staff

I tried

[echo turtle]

Also running surge and creeping flame

[glossy ember]

you don't wanna run deimos with surge

[echo turtle]

What hordes?

[glossy ember]

oh i guess if you got shriek

[willow hazel]

ds4 1 shots mutants

[primal blade]

what rating should i go for ? 370 maybe higher ?

[glossy ember]

sure

[plucky flax]

No heavy 1 on claw won't 1 shot mutie

Maybe on zealot with lots of melee buff.

[glossy ember]

never managed to do that without rampage triggered

[echo turtle]

I prefer Dclaw but yeah I would run deimos with surge

[glossy ember]

can only run that if you go flame shriek tho

[plucky flax]

If you headahot crit it's 1 shot tho

[willow hazel]

do you not have +maniac?

[echo turtle]

You can do whatever with whatever build tbh

[glossy ember]

i do

25%

[echo turtle]

But creeping flames with surge is probs the best build around

[glossy ember]

my h1 couldn't 1 shot muties

[willow hazel]

low finesse maybe

[glossy ember]

you're gonna struggle on hordes without creeping flames but yes you can play deimos surge without creeping flames, it's viable just rough

[glossy ember]

lemme log on and try it

[orchid shadow]

But I like menacingly walking into a room of shooters and they can do NOTHING about it as I block everything. Mwahahaha

[glossy ember]

was gonna go to bed

[echo turtle]

I dunno man, I do that on my ogryn but I have a skill that makes them charge at you

Kind of makes deflector feel pretty pointless in comparison

I take it to stay alive if I'm out of position, but any time you are approaching enemies I dunno why you aren't attacking them

Unless this is like, an RP thing

[glossy ember]

h1 on weakpoint (no crit)

H1 weakpoint with crit

[echo turtle]

So close

[glossy ember]

so yeah i guess

max finesse max damage

[echo turtle]

But, the one hit on muties barely matters

[glossy ember]

you can one shot crit a mutie with it

[echo turtle]

We play in games with teams, not in meat grinder

[willow hazel]

Oh I was talking about the mk4 dueling sword

[orchid shadow]

I'm not always going to be on a team with a Ogryn, or a Shield Psyker. I'm always rear guard with Surge, but sometimes teams just don't want to push forward and let themselves be pinned by shooters and I have to force the issue.

[willow hazel]

Not devils claw

[echo turtle]

You force the issue by killing with surge not blocking with a sword

[tardy sierra]

Are they subclasses?

[glossy ember]

meanwhile empowered H1 with illisi always one shots mutants

[static mango]

Mutie 1 shotting is so valuable

Ds4 is goated

[glossy ember]

it's handy when you got a mutie train coming

the faster they go down the better

[clear heath]

idk what you mean by subclasses.
It's just 4 different classes

[static mango]

Not to mention flamer/bomber mutie tag teams

[echo turtle]

One shot on face only matters if it's reliable, when you side dodge ur probably not hitting the weak spot with a vertical swing

But mutie damage is great, Dclaw is great

[glossy ember]

true, illisi gets to be reliable on that. But Dclaw has a really good hitbox on h1 and still does plenty of damage

[tardy sierra]

I thought they were just ogryn psyker veteran and zealot...i obviously hadnt paid attention 😄

[viscid matrix]

isnt dclaw the midling option for melee weapons we have access to?

[echo turtle]

It's the highest skill ceiling, potentially best weapon

[glossy ember]

it's really strong vs infested/unarmoured/maniac but sorta weak vs unyielding/carapace/flak. Parry is goated tho

[orchid shadow]

I know Surge has deceptively long range, but it's a bit fiddly now as. It used to cut corners like mad so much, it practically went through every type of obstacle to hit it's target. But I like to push into rooms for positioning when Surge targeting starts acting up.

[glossy ember]

play surge scrier, become the frontline

[echo turtle]

There's not a lot of places where you can't reach the shooters with lightning

[cedar wren]

Is it worth upgrading the redeemed or just keep the gold

[clear heath]

oh
yeah it's an old screenshot. I think those names like skullbreaker and whatnot are from back when they intended to have subclasses in the game, but that whole idea got replaced with having a more detailed talent tree

[fallen osprey]

To be honest, both are trash, sorry but...

[strange nova]

So, whats the best way to use Assail? I've never actually tried that

[cedar wren]

Really both ?

[echo turtle]

Deflector is like the ogryn shield plant. There's a time to use it, and if you use it at that moment it's great. If you are using it all the time, you're missing the point. If you think you are using it at the right moments and you aren't dying, and dealing top damage on your team, you know what you're doing

[fallen osprey]

Yeah

[cedar wren]

Damn..

[viscid matrix]

really wish there was a better way for console players to take screenshots and upload to discord

upgrade the green one, you are aiming for Warp Nexus and Warp Flurry blessings, and Crit Chance perk

[echo turtle]

Swap carapace to flak

Trust

[fallen osprey]

You want a little more than 347 modifier on a Surge staff. Flak and crit chance are my favorite for perk

[viscid matrix]

Assail is good enough to be used as a main weapon, make sure to use a Revolver so you can use Hand Cannon Blessing to buff your assail to take out flak armoured enemies, and a DS IV to deal with carapace enemies

[cedar wren]

Thanks for the advice ..back to grind

[fallen osprey]

What the point of encouraging bug exploit ? :/

[glossy ember]

flak crit rate or flak carapace are the better combos on surge. if unlucky on rng, flak + anything will do until you get a better staff

[echo turtle]

I recommend not crutching on a bug and OP blitz

[strange nova]

Yeah I dont want to crutch.

[viscid matrix]

the only stats that truely matter for Surge staff is Damage and crit, the others dont matter too much, and are nice to have high rolls on

[strange nova]

I just want to get better as a psyker, and i WAS using headpop

[glossy ember]

charge time

[rough python]

YO guys, what's good monster damage outside of brainburst?
does surge do well? Trauma?

[strange nova]

but folk kept bitching at me to use the funny magic rocks

[orchid shadow]

True, but if I can take a better position moving up with deflector, I'm gonna take it. I can then flank everything instead of playing peek-a-boo with shooters.

[viscid matrix]

because that "exploit" is a unintended mechanic that has been in the game since launch, and its been over a year, doubt it will be changed, its also a mechanic in Vermintide 2

[fallen osprey]

If you want to learn how to stack rending with assail, you can throw assail and swap on weapon before they reached target to buff them with you rending blessing on melee weapon

[viscid matrix]

you have to stack it with melee first, then swap assail, then swap back to melee

[echo turtle]

I recommend surge staff with venting shriek, that with an illisi, deimos,or Dclaw is a very well rounded play style that deals with hordes, specials and elites while being mobile and having defensive options

Take headpop if you want, it doesn't matter. Then you have lots of tools to learn the class with

[strange nova]

Dont suppose you have a build for that?

[onyx sentinel]

That’s not the actual cosmetic we’re getting isn’t it?

[fallen osprey]

No you don't, you can do both way. And if you are standing away from your target, you 'll not start with melee hit.

[echo turtle]

Yeah I can give you one, "selfish in war" also posted theirs a bunch

Same concept

[primal blade]

My psyker has the pre-order stuff equipped to compare with the new stuff

The new stuff ain't out yet

[onyx sentinel]

I think you’re right, the coat is just recycled from the old penance cosmetic

[viscid matrix]

the melee blessings require being stacked first, otherwise you only get the first stack from the first assail hit, and doesnt do much damage

if you stack it first, assail can hit 1700 on a crit secondary

[echo turtle]

All you need it creeping flames on shriek, and warp charges

And cool down reductions

Spam lightning, trigger blitz repeat

[strange nova]

If you can just shunt me a build, hell you can DM if need be

[echo turtle]

One sec

[viscid matrix]

[fallen osprey]

No, you don't understand. Assail headshot proc the rending buff on a duelling sword. You throw assail, you swap on duelling sword and assail hit on head start building stack from long range

[onyx sentinel]

Oh yeah I know, but some people know how to access unreleased cosmetic so I thought that’s what you did

[fallen osprey]

you can stack with melee aswell, we are just not talking about the same thing

[primal blade]

That's only if they're in the files which I don't know if they are

[viscid matrix]

ohh, you mean start stacking it early, sure

i prefer using melee to stack it first, then throw out an assail while at max for a 3 shot on a crusher

[orchid shadow]

I'm gonna have to try Scrier out one day. The peril ramp alway scares me though. =/ And not being able to Shriek when I click juuust one too many times and explode

[fallen osprey]

y

[potent echo]

Latest vox teaser

[feral knoll]

If you hit 100 because of Scrier. You won’t pop. If that helps

[strange nova]

and that with surge staff + an illisi

[viscid matrix]

Scriers is amazing on a melee build with Disrupt Destiny

[echo turtle]

Until the fix the bug scriers is kinda bad

[strange nova]

i assume blazing soul is bad on illisi?

[echo turtle]

Surge and whatever you like

[strange nova]

I have a shred blazing soul sword XD

[echo turtle]

I like Dclaw, illisi and diemos are fine

Illisi is safe, as you can use a charge attack and get all your toughness back

Very strong

[viscid matrix]

KEKW, scriers is amazing and only thing thats an issue is only affecting you when you use warp charges

[echo turtle]

If you're newer, I recommend an illisi

[strange nova]

Im new to psyker

its easily my weakest playstyle

[viscid matrix]

Dueling Sword MK IV is the best melee weapon for destroying armoured targets

Illisi is great to use as a defensive weapon, or horde killing weapon

[echo turtle]

Eh, it's really not.

Giving up peril generating for some crit and damage that equals to a fraction of what a zealot gets for just breathing

It needs charges to get uptime where it needs to be to be worthwhile outside of a meme build

And the charges don't work

[viscid matrix]

its bad cause zealot has a better version of it???? are you high?

[echo turtle]

It's bad because what it needs to be efficient doesn't work

[steel flame]

I love scriers

[echo turtle]

I want to love it, but it's pretty lackkuster imo

[viscid matrix]

Scriers is amazing, it allows a Gunker or Melee psyker to shred thru everything, while moving around at zealot speeds

[steel flame]

You put the effort in and scriers gives results

[echo turtle]

Eh

[fallen osprey]

Scryer's is very good, usually running it with an automatic and an Illisi you can either burst a boss like hell or become a killing machine in melee. It's not "half" of anything, it's versatile and fun tbh.

[echo turtle]

Do you play the other classes?

[fallen osprey]

Yes, all 4.

[steel flame]

Empathic evasion is very fun with the big crit chance boost

[echo turtle]

I fail to see how one would want scriers when they could do a vet or zealot and have the same weapons but better bonus's

[steel flame]

Adds some good Regen too with metel

Can't forget the speed

[echo turtle]

The speed is fun, I run a shroud field knifelot here a rhere

Which can one shot crushers, and go invisible, and can rock 70% crit rate.

Hard to play a melee psyker after that lol

[steel flame]

If you use it with something with an already high crit chance or something with good crit strings like Columnus along with true aim

Mmmmmmm all the crits

[viscid matrix]

https://streamable.com/h56i2e

[steel flame]

Tasty

[viscid matrix]

also this is why DS are so good

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1yMHLPVTGKuVoq/d1337Qb7VBFa?invite=cr-MSxQODYsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[fallen osprey]

Well, with the same weapon. let say the meta-one, infantry mk5, you do more damage with psyker than vet because of the perma critical rate in boss burst situation for exemple. And you have more versatily because you are not limited to use it on your gun, but on your melee aswell. I m not saying it "best build ever better than anything else". It's just good and viable

[echo turtle]

Haha that's a good use of that talent ngl

[spice oar]

Idk i can out dmg vets and zealots with Las pistol and graia ia (and my vraks is a god slayer)

[steel flame]

That's what I usually end up doing

[strange nova]

@echo turtle should I use a mk 4 duelling sword for the carapace fuckery?

[echo turtle]

Here's the thing, how much extra damage is scriers really giving here though

[steel flame]

Melts bosses too and the lingering damage boost from the scrier headshot upgrade means it keeps on giving

[echo turtle]

The crits and strings aren't from scriers

It's from true aim

[echo turtle]

Everything fuckery
Mk4 is amazing

[fallen osprey]

Both.

[spice oar]

Like 40% and include the bonus crit chance. And you also get speed and 20% dmg reduction

[viscid matrix]

the speed is massive in a melee psyker build

[echo turtle]

I have doubts your DPS is 40% higher with scriers there

[spice oar]

Granted this is if you can hit your shots rlly well, so an avg of 30% extra dmg

[strange nova]

@echo turtle i have a purple one with riposte 4... that aite?

[clear heath]

but if it crit chains for 4 hits, and true aim crits every 5, 80% of the crits are from true aim

[spice oar]

Oh and finese multiplier also at 30%

[echo turtle]

Yeah riposte is great. Upgrade it and get uncanny strikea

[spice oar]

And grab dd, for another potential 30% dmg boost and so on and it just stacks upon stacks and stacks

[echo turtle]

DD is not reliable

[spice oar]

True

[echo turtle]

It's often 0%

[spice oar]

Im just happy it works out for me

[echo turtle]

I just think a choice between scriers and a telekine shield. You will win more with the shield. Just my opinion

It's a lot to give up for the bonus which is, nothing too crazy

[viscid matrix]

this is what i use on a DS

[strange nova]

i doubt i'll get close

[spice oar]

Play with it more and you might see what I mean

[echo turtle]

Scriers is fun and I hope they buff it

Sure

[spice oar]

But each to their own

[echo turtle]

I'll give it a go

[clear heath]

if 4 out of 5 hits are guaranteed crits from true aim, and 1 is rng, then isn't scriers not doing much for crit chance? It's already guaranteed to crit

cause from what i can tell, you're guaranteed to crit 4 times once true aim procs

crit chain jank

[echo turtle]

Running creeping flame surge though I am slaughtering in Aurics, Hard to imagine scriers competing with that, as I have never seen a psyker run that in game and come close to me

[spice oar]

You using surge with the bug?

That like, triples it's dmg

[echo turtle]

No, I refuse to on principle

[viscid matrix]

run a Gunker and use
Scriers
DD
default Assail or Smite
a Dueling Sword or Deimos
your prefered ranged weapon, i tend to go for Revolver for when i need to destroy snipers

[echo turtle]

Ive run a lot of gunker

I just don't think scriers is all that

[harsh urchin]

scrier's is very mediocre lol

[spice oar]

[echo turtle]

True aim is where the damage is coming from

[harsh urchin]

it has the new design for volley fire that even fatshark themselves reverted in patch14

for vet

but it didn't get reverted for psyker

[clear heath]

speaking of volley fire

we should have wallhacks with scriers

weird that they have it and we dont

[viscid matrix]

DD is a subpar version of volley fire

[clear heath]

literal mind powers

and the normal ass dudes can see through walls

[viscid matrix]

if they didnt have it, they would have nothing 😄 well at launch at least

ohh and why scriers is good, is mainly for the melee builds with that finesse damage and crit chance

[echo turtle]

Have you tested the weak spot damage with and without scriers?

[glossy ember]

its fun af trust u'll get it

[viscid matrix]

logging on now to see difference in numbers on a weakspot carapace kill, no stacks vs higher stacks

[ornate hamlet]

hm so how do I play Psyker

[viscid matrix]

😄 we have many ways due to how many options we have

[glossy ember]

it's my fav gameplay even if it's less effective than flaming shriek

[echo turtle]

I thought %finesse would translate to a lot of damage, but ran a decapitator axe and 100% extra finese added maybe 30% more damage

[glossy ember]

but well i managed to hit big numbers regardless so

w/e

[viscid matrix]

i actually havent touched venting shriek since first week of the class rework

[strange nova]

@echo turtle so whats the playstyle with that build?

[echo turtle]

If mean, if you're an absolute Chad and can just get 100% headshots quickly you can dominate with anyclass holding a revy or laspistok

[willow hazel]

Also great with guns

[echo turtle]

Aggressive staff spam, cycling the blitz

Spam lightning, pop blitz at high peril to burn down hordes,repeat

Quickly quell to keep staff uptime, never stop attacking

Switch to melee if you need to, make space, keep pushing staff attacks out

[glossy ember]

to be fair, shield is op as hell and fun at the start but makes it too easy

[viscid matrix]

i dont think finnese aplies to guns, but il check

[echo turtle]

10% crit and 15% damage vs a shield that stops groups from wiping. I dunno man, easy choice to me

[glossy ember]

Yes, one option is more fun than the other to me though

[echo turtle]

I mean if it's fun do it, that doesn't make it great

And it's been said in chat it's amazingly great

I'm not saying it's not fun

[glossy ember]

also it's 20% crit and 10% damage that ramps up to 40

[echo turtle]

Uh, not really

[viscid matrix]

fully charged DS H1 no scriers

[glossy ember]

? it's what's written

[echo turtle]

It's finesse damage, but you need to see how much that actually changes your final damage

[glossy ember]

Not finesse

the actual damage buff

[echo turtle]

Damage per second, and is that base damage or damage damage

[glossy ember]

you get 1% damage every second

[viscid matrix]

14 stacks Scriers DS with no other buffs

[echo turtle]

Cuz that matters

[echo turtle]

And without scriers?

[glossy ember]

screenshot above

[echo turtle]

Ah I misread

[glossy ember]

789 vs 1099

[viscid matrix]

that was only 14 stacks of scriers

[glossy ember]

did u have warp rider

[echo turtle]

Yeah so, 25% more damage,

Which if you just ran warp charges, you would have already

[crystal oxide]

Is there a way to cancel Scriers early?

[glossy ember]

just get both?

build charges during scrier

[viscid matrix]

wait yes 😄 1 second removing it now

[echo turtle]

You lose your charges when activating scirers

[glossy ember]

just build em again

[echo turtle]

If scriers didn't eat the charges, that would slap

[crystal oxide]

I like the concept of Scriers, but having to sit through it all the way till you cook yourself at 100 peril makes me way too nervous

[glossy ember]

with 5 stacks of perfect timing and scrier base buff you're not too far off from 5 stacks of pt with 6 warp charges for breakpoints, esp if you crit

[echo turtle]

Yeah so, just running charges and never using scriers you have reduced peril consumption and similar damage

[harsh urchin]

which BPs are you hitting btw

[glossy ember]

u mean with surge?

or what buffs

[torn palm]

what perks you want for surge staff? flakiac i assume

[harsh urchin]

i dont know dude, you're the one talking about hitting BPs

[echo turtle]

Flak, crit

[harsh urchin]

i'm just asking you to clarify

lmao

[glossy ember]

25% flak/carapace:
6 warp charges, 0 Perfect Timing stacks breakpoints:
4: Reaper (1 crit), Bulwark, Crusher (30 hp left), Mutant
3: Reaper(3 crits), Mutant (3 crits), Bulwark (2 crits), Crusher (1 crit), Maniac Rager(200 hp left), Mauler
2: Mauler (2 crits), Maniac rager (1 crit), Flamethrowers, Flak rager, dog, yellow Gunner (155 hp left)
1: Shotgunners, Flak Gunner, Flamethrowers (1 crit), Dog (1 crit), Trapper, sniper, bomber

6 warp charges, 5 perfect timing stacks:
4: Reaper (1 crit), Crusher, Bulwark, Mutant
3: Reaper (2crits), Mutant (2 crits), Bulwark (1 crit inconsistant), Maniac Rager, Mauler
2: Mauler (1 crit), Maniac Rager (1 crit), Dog, Flak Rager, Flamethrowers, Yellow Gunner
1: Dog(1 crit), Shotgunners, Black Gunner, Trapper, Yellow Gunner (1crit), Yellow gunner (inconsistant for some reason? Sometimes left with 7 or so hp), sniper, bomber, flamethrowers (1 crit)

[viscid matrix]

with 5 stacks Scriers and 5 stacks of Uncanny Rend, no warp rider

[harsh urchin]

I recommend flak+elites

[echo turtle]

Crit is better than carapace imo

[glossy ember]

I hope that's clarified enough, dude

[harsh urchin]

maniac doesn't really hit any meaningful BPs

[echo turtle]

Especially as you want to take heal on crit and plus damage on crit

For a surge

That question was on a surge right?

[harsh urchin]

so wait how do you have 6 WC and perfect timing

when you're burning your WC when you press f

[echo turtle]

You dont

That's just it

[potent echo]

I think that doesn't have scriers

[glossy ember]

Yes. So you're now at 0 wc 5 pt + scrier buff

[harsh urchin]

yeah so those BPs are meaningless no?

[steel flame]

Dunno why you would ever take warp charges with gunker when dd is just straight up double the damage increase even with only 15 stacks

[echo turtle]

I don't think any BPs were hit

[glossy ember]

just build the charges back

[echo turtle]

DD is less damage

Cuz it's often at 0

It's theoretically more

[glossy ember]

are you gonna kill 0 elites during scrier or what

[echo turtle]

But in reality it's not

[potent echo]

I think 0 WC bps will be more valuable

To know

Because you can work up from there

[harsh urchin]

yep

[potent echo]

Vs having to work down from 6

[harsh urchin]

that's what I'm asking him for

[echo turtle]

You give up 24% damage to ramp back up and drop it again, look at your average damage boost for the duration, not the theoretical maximum

[glossy ember]

alright i'll do that tomorrow then

[harsh urchin]

he said "scriers lets you hit a bunch of breakpoints", so I just want to know which BPs are being hit

[echo turtle]

Oh lol, yeah I don't think that's true at all

[potent echo]

"Average" damage noooo

[glossy ember]

I said it lets me hit the same breakpoints early on as 6 warp stacks.

[echo turtle]

What breakpoint, what weapon

[strange nova]

@echo turtle what am i looking for on surge staff?

[glossy ember]

if I have PT

AND scrier

you then build stacks off eaqy to kil elitesp

[echo turtle]

Flak, crit. Flurry, Nexus (the crit blessing)

[glossy ember]

asap

[harsh urchin]

in theory I like the idea of scrier's

[potent echo]

Maniac seems to let you 2 hit dreg ragers... Hard to tell with the table

[harsh urchin]

it's supposed to be like psyker volley fire

like a zerk mode

the problem is that mechanically it's too dogshit in its current state

[potent echo]

It doesn't even change your gameplay

[glossy ember]

i mean it lets you 2 shot maulers with surge staff but that's it I believe, that needs warp stacks though. But i meant ditching your ws early on isn't as bad with scrier + pt

[potent echo]

At least volley fire increases accuracy, PBB raises reload and RoF

[echo turtle]

Scriers is awful with a staff

[glossy ember]

Yes yes i've been told many times

[hasty pier]

Thanks I hate it

[echo turtle]

Trading slight damage boost for significantly less uptime

[potent echo]

Chastise gives you a charge that ignores ranged fire

What does scrier do

[harsh urchin]

yeah I mean are you seriously using scrier with surge staff LOL

you miss out on like

[glossy ember]

Yes.

[harsh urchin]

70% of the damage

that SG is giving you

[echo turtle]

Yeah, I wanna see the last 5 of his scoreboards now

[glossy ember]

I average 400k damage on my games.

[echo turtle]

LOL

That's bad

[potent echo]

You also miss out on 50% of the dps that creeping flames would have done

[glossy ember]

my last scoreboard was above 500k

[glossy ember]

That's bad?

[viscid matrix]

the node right above it

[echo turtle]

Yeah

[potent echo]

1 second on a surge lol

[glossy ember]

Are you supposed to average 600k every game or something

[harsh urchin]

rhino, stopping trolling him :p dont bully LOL

[hasty pier]

Brunt at least coming in hot

[potent echo]

That's for Columnus if anything

Even on a purg it isn't super consistent

[echo turtle]

My last one was shy of 600k and that was a quick play auric, and my first game of the day, first game with a new weapon

[glossy ember]

Alright, guess I'm bad then

I'm not gonna argue with that

[harsh urchin]

the problem is that SG has very poor synergy with non finesse weapons

[echo turtle]

I mean, ur using scriers with a staff

That's half the DPS of vent with a staff

[severe folio]

GUYS

I DID IT

I ACHIEVED THE TRUE WEAPON

[echo turtle]

I'm sure you're good. But your build is not optimized at all

[glossy ember]

so you always do 800k~1m damage?

[severe folio]

ITS SO PRETTY

[bright mica]

its a nendoroid of ryuko

[echo turtle]

I usually do around 600k, depending on mission type

[potent echo]

1mil damage

[glossy ember]

Alright, i'll let you know if i ever reach that

[feral knoll]

I mean. All I saw was using Surge with Scrier’s

It’s a lot better for gun psyker

[glossy ember]

No need for the flatter

[echo turtle]

I mean, stop using staves with scriers and your damage will go up dramatically

[glossy ember]

I'm not even lv100 on psyker

[glossy ember]

warpfire adding 150k sure would help yes

[potent echo]

Oh I thought rhino was arguing for scrier on surge

I was so surprised to hear 600k damage on that lmao

[severe folio]

new knive is so good 💯

[feral knoll]

Force Dagger

[potent echo]

Force club

[glossy ember]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1172298386544791592/image.png?ex=655fcef3&is=654d59f3&hm=4b9424d1e16fc23fa1d7d89660823f434c93ca2c9d2ff69944cca93e7407d855& that was my last game

from today

oh wait that's not 500k

oh it is 550k for ranged

[feral knoll]

Do you guys usually take the -20% peril generation or the weak spot = 1 second for Scrier’s

I take the weak spot kill one but I’m just curious if I’m overlooking the other one

[viscid matrix]

ahh i love that assail can still do 1200 or more damage on a crusher

[potent echo]

You probably need peril if you are running staves on scrier

[ornate hamlet]

[feral knoll]

I’m using Gun Psyker so

[ornate hamlet]

Force nightstick

[viscid matrix]

weakspot, if you constantly stabbing heads with DS, you can easily reach 25 stacks

[glossy ember]

so?

[wet cloak]

I'm starting to wonder if it's even possible to get a staff as a reward from a mission at this point

All I get are lasguns

[glossy ember]

any comment?

[feral knoll]

Ok. That’s what I figured.

[potent echo]

Definitely extra finesse damage

[ornate hamlet]

I always take peril with scrier because I pop it to deal with large amounts of really bad shit

[glossy ember]

@harsh urchin was actually higher than 500k

[potent echo]

How did you get 600 kills with a surge

[glossy ember]

? i shot rmb

[ornate hamlet]

I prefer having it for an extended time instead of having a more damaging smaller time that relies on getting kills, which feels like "I pop scrier on hordes" moment

[potent echo]

That's like at least 500 rmbs

Inb4 I used assail

[viscid matrix]

tbh the stacks are just a bonus, you start scriers for that juicy 20% crit chance

[glossy ember]

i have smite

[severe folio]

OMG

[ornate hamlet]

Force maul

Faul

[potent echo]

Did you really shoot 500 rmbs in 1 mission

[glossy ember]

ive never used assail yet

[echo turtle]

Good output

[glossy ember]

i mean sometimes it kills 2 mobs

so probably less

and some lmbs here and there

[potent echo]

At least 300

[glossy ember]

i mean

[viscid matrix]

give it a shot, its really worth it

edit: whoops it has malefic momentum instead of empathic evasion, swap those 2

[glossy ember]

you don't?

do you just not rmb

[wet cloak]

Why would you not use assail? You need to make those vets cry as they take out their power sword and all they see is you already deleting the horde

[glossy ember]

because i want the -5% peril gen node

smite lets me grab it

[glossy ember]

right i'm just waiting for Dis to keep dunking on me

give it a minute

[wet cloak]

I haven't even used smite yet

[glossy ember]

[harsh urchin]

i dunk on ppl for stupid shit, not for scoreboard scores lol

[echo turtle]

I mean, showing a scoreboard doesn't make the build great.

[harsh urchin]

i dont think those matter cuz you can just use assail or kickback and get super inflated

[glossy ember]

I don't wanna run bugged surge staff

[viscid matrix]

you missing out, i have only been using smite the last 3 weeks

[echo turtle]

I never doubted your skill, I doubted the build efficiency

[glossy ember]

I literally don't have assail.

[smoky fractal]

scoreboards are so toxic

green circle ptsf

ptsd

[viscid matrix]

this isnt a bugged surge staff build

its a assail build with revolver and ds to deal with armour

[wet cloak]

It just seems very dependent on your team being perceptive of you CC'ing enemies

[potent echo]

Green circles are the best

[harsh urchin]

that is a bugged hand cannon build

not much better tbf

[glossy ember]

oh

well i don't have a handcanon with that anyway

[feral knoll]

That’s a chicken drumstick looking club

[glossy ember]

what if the stupid shit sorta works then

[potent echo]

It's better because revolver alone probably win surge

[dark stag]

scrier's gaze works for both melee and ranged yes?

[potent echo]

Yea

[viscid matrix]

dont use that part, use anyother staff or gun, and just mainline assail unless you need to take out bosses

[potent echo]

Assail for bosses?

[wet cloak]

The only reason I'd go gun psyker is so people can complain about the psyker stealing all the ammo.

[dark stag]

thank you, you reminded me I should go trolling with a scrier's gaze crit revolver build

[glossy ember]

it stands for at least something. They're the only proof of efficiency a build has. You said it yourself, you hit 600k while half asleep and on a new weapon

[viscid matrix]

i use melee for bosses

[glossy ember]

on flaming shriek or w/e

[feral knoll]

Hot take: Psyker fashion is nice. I like the default hoods you get : )

[viscid matrix]

if you end the secondary of smite early, you throw everything except ragers and armoured on their ass

[potent echo]

I think scrier will only help you 1 tap ragers

[glossy ember]

I'm still new to psyker so I can't hit one trillion gazillion damage yet

[potent echo]

It really 1 taps most things

[dark stag]

ah you see

I will use it on bulldozers xd

oh I mean crushers

[glossy ember]

But if that build can hit 660k

[dark stag]

not payday 3 my bad

[potent echo]

Payday2 darktide collab

[wet cloak]

I just prefer surge staff and shriek. The one-focus burst damage and then shriek if I do get overwhelmed, and assail for everything with too many enemies

[potent echo]

Darkday4

[glossy ember]

i don't think it's godawful enough to say something like "heh i bet this guy had awful 5 last scoreboards!"

<_<

[severe folio]

melk wont give you any staff because i have them all

[harsh urchin]

i heard it was giga dogshit

[viscid matrix]

ahh i havent used shriek in a long time 😄 i was locked to it for a year, so im playing anything else 😄 same reason i dont use warp siphon or brain rupture

[harsh urchin]

which is sad

cuz my friend and I were trying to full clear payday2

and then do pd3

payday2 is very good though

[potent echo]

You dont like standing in circles?

[harsh urchin]

sad that we prob just gonna wait a year

before trying pd3

[severe folio]

why

[wet cloak]

It's hard to not get used to having shriek when you finally use a different build

[glossy ember]

or giggling laughing like that at a build

[dark stag]

(it's missing a lot of content and features 2 already had but the gun gameplay feels better and the stealth is also more fun)

[severe folio]

ahh

[viscid matrix]

the trick is to edge your peril constantly, never go below 80% peril if you can help it, and just tap quell between every secondary 😄

[harsh urchin]

yeah but lack of content + shitty progression doesnt sound too appealing

[dark stag]

nope it isn't

[severe folio]

typical game dev

[dark stag]

das why it's ded xd

[glossy ember]

anyway i've said enough, have a good one.

[dark stag]

(anyway back to darktide)

[wet cloak]

Time to go rock a revolver and take all the ammo in front of the vet's eyes.

[viscid matrix]

im still suprised people are so against using the empower surge bug, or the revolver assail bug

people abused the hell out of Void 1taps

[wet cloak]

What's the revolver assail bug?

[viscid matrix]

Hand Cannon blessing applies to assail

[strong gulch]

Tried to change my keybinds. It didn't work out well. 🙃

[dark stag]

What are the dump stats on revolver?

Just mobility?

[wet cloak]

Damn

[potent echo]

Applies to melee too

[viscid matrix]

mobility and reload speed

[potent echo]

Applies to your entire loadout

[dark stag]

really?

[potent echo]

When will it be fixed? Who knows

[viscid matrix]

[dark stag]

You would think on a gun with only so many shots reloading faster would be important xd

[potent echo]

Use it now and pad your scoreboards green circles go brrrrr

[dark stag]

is this good enough for a build or crit bonus too low?

[harsh urchin]

take it up with rhino or mods in dms lol

[viscid matrix]

i have it at 48%, its not that bad, havent found one with mobility dumped yet

[potent echo]

Critical bonus affects your crit chance too

Best is to test is psyk

[mossy canopy]

What's the usual dump stat for trauma?

[harsh urchin]

all i did was explain why its not synergistic

[potent echo]

Dreg gunner 1 tap is the annoying BP you should look at

[harsh urchin]

i dont really think scoreboard means anything

[potent echo]

It's not actually melee btw

Typo

[viscid matrix]

they did it for surge staff too

[wet cloak]

Anyone have a handy revolver build close by?

I could probably make one myself, but I am lazy.

[strong gulch]

I think you'd be shy of a crusher break point, but I'd say it's still work leveling.

[harsh urchin]

do you want a basic assail revolver bugabuse build?

[potent echo]

You want handcannon regardless

Surgical next

[wet cloak]

I don't have the blessings for it unfortunately

I have 0 blessings with the revolver at hadron

[viscid matrix]

Assail headshots, 1 non crit, and 1 crit with t3 handcannon blessing 😄

[potent echo]

Then just upgrade it and see how it goes

[wet cloak]

I got hipfire and run and gun lol

[potent echo]

Rip

[wet cloak]

It was my nice stats revolver too

[harsh urchin]

yeah there's a bit for you to upgrade 😛

[wet cloak]

D:

[harsh urchin]

gotta keep farming I guess

[potent echo]

Open hadrons plasteel receptor and dump it all in there

[wet cloak]

Thanks!

[strong gulch]

yip. Go get your hopes crushed

[harsh urchin]

here's the one I use:

[wet cloak]

I'm going to use a deimos just for the memes

[viscid matrix]

wait you dont want 3 stacks of EP? also Anticipation is broken and is not worth the point

wasted point, never get it

dodge duration does nothing

[harsh urchin]

you don't ever get 3 stacks of EP with assail anyways, so that point is pointless

[harsh urchin]

+1 dodge is good

[strong gulch]

true but plus 1?

[viscid matrix]

why not? pull out melee, kill some crushers and maulers, stack up to 3 stacks, then imediatly dump 3 free empowered assails down range

[queen trout]

oh i just realized how to do triple DOT damage on psyker. flechette blessing on the fire shotgun with a blaze force sword

[viscid matrix]

we dont have access to the shotgun

[queen trout]

oh nevermind lol

back to the drawing board

[viscid matrix]

use the laspistol instead for fire, use dagger for bleed

[queen trout]

but the nno reliable soul blaze stacks

[harsh urchin]

yeah that happens infrequently enough that I dropped the point 🙂

[strong gulch]

creeping flames and PC

[viscid matrix]

fair enough

[queen trout]

"reliable"

[viscid matrix]

killing a elite is reliable 😄

[harsh urchin]

perilous combustion is also pretty meh now after the nerfs

[viscid matrix]

wasnt it 4 stacks before?

[harsh urchin]

the threshold for killing stuff got changed from 2 elite kills to 3 elite kills to kill everything

yep

2 kills used to be 8 stacks = everything is dead

now 6 stacks = not everything is deead

so you need 3 kills to get 9 stacks

[queen trout]

the only thing tanky enough to warrent triple dot is bosses and theres not always specils nearby]

[viscid matrix]

makes sense, we ahve to leave somthing for the others to do 😄

[cold glade]

counterpoint

[harsh urchin]

it feels significantly worse after the nerfs

[cold glade]

its fun

[viscid matrix]

tbh if you want to do a dot build, skip the fire, and just go all in on Soulblaze and bleed

[queen trout]

i just want the meme of triple dot, i know i could double dot pretty easily

[strong gulch]

Lol. 3 smellies in a pod.

Beans
KettleCorn
StinkyCropDuster

[viscid matrix]

if you go warp chages and chages on burn kill, you could probably have low enough cooldown for venting shriek to keep shit on fire

[echo turtle]

And uncanny lacerate knife would do well there yeag

[strong gulch]

I've been asking for fire knife for so long.

[echo turtle]

There's the fire sword

[strong gulch]

booo

[echo turtle]

It kinda sucks, but it's there

[strong gulch]

fire knife

[shell igloo]

Which blitz/ability compliments the voidstrike staff? I'm at a loss