psyker-class

[frail sand]

its really fun

esp. with disrupt destiny stacks

brrrt and zooming is good fun

[blazing echo]

left or right?

[frigid zenith]

Blazing spirit.

100%

[severe folio]

that trauma cant be made into fire trauma

[frigid zenith]

Blazing spirit with the right setup has probably the highest damage potential with a shit ton of CC in the entire game.

[spice oar]

right, if you get rending shock wave 3-4 pair it with flurry and its rlly good in my experience

[wet belfry]

There isnt enough info to gauge yet which one is better

The left one has a better stat spread since charge rate > warp res

But right has very ideal blessings, perks for the most part.

[long wharf]

So, we're going to get some pity cosmetics

[blazing echo]

I'll keep it around for now

[severe folio]

the right one doesnt have enough charge rate for fire trauma

[blazing echo]

Ive got some at 3 but almost none at 4

[frigid zenith]

It's fine.

[wet belfry]

I do think charge rate prob is actually the most important stat on trauma

The base charge rate of trauma takes forever.

[frigid zenith]

It's crit.

[primal blade]

i mean i dig the new look if we get the zealot mask

[severe folio]

trauma dont have a randomized crit stat

[primal blade]

if not i'll probably stick to my patchwork pattern and huge ass ring

[long wharf]

It's nothing original though

[frank moat]

No way you getting that Zealot hood sibling

[primal blade]

its fine with me though as i don't really change outfits much

[long wharf]

It's just a dolled-up beta helmet

[frigid zenith]

I would take that right staff into AM missions and absolutely wreck with it.

[severe folio]

what is AM

[frigid zenith]

auric mealstrom

[frank moat]

Auric Maelstrom?

[long wharf]

I'm one of the whales that still buys cosmetics

I'd rather get aquilas

[frigid zenith]

lol mEAlstrom

[severe folio]

I mean, you can try but you gonna feel that charge rate torn

[primal blade]

Most likely the abdominous trout will not give it but i want it

if i have to i'll mod it xp

[severe folio]

youd want fire trauma to have quite a high charge rate, at like

78-80

damage is the least imporant on the fire trauma

the left staff is more fire trauma friendly

[fluid knot]

They can hit stuff they're not even aiming at

Bloke in Vet chat posted a video of it earlier

Its ridiculous

Man aiming at the sky an still hitting the Crusher next to him

[spiral storm]

what's the consensus on purgatus staff

[long wharf]

It's useful

[spiral storm]

feels kinda pointless to me now since trauma

or illis melee

what's the settup for it?

[severe folio]

i prefer their fire over the fire trauma or the fire illisi

[spiral storm]

BB or assail

shield or push

[severe folio]

either is fine

shriek for flame

[long wharf]

I don't consider blazing spirit illisi with considering

[severe folio]

warp siphon

fire reborn

21 flame stacks

[spiral storm]

IMO warpsiphon is like the only viable keystone

[glossy ember]

nah

[spiral storm]

except for if you want to run bb

but in that case it would be better for damage to just run trauma/smite with assail for groups

[hollow jolt]

Purg staff is one of the toughest psyker builds because crits for days

[long wharf]

EP is very viable for assail or BB

[hollow jolt]

Its nice being able to clutch solo

[digital narwhal]

[hollow jolt]

You don't need to move

[glossy ember]

embrace the hit and run

[spiral storm]

EP is the middle on right

[hollow jolt]

You need to shoot

[glossy ember]

put sprint efficiency

[glossy ember]

[long wharf]

Yes, middle keystone

[shell igloo]

EP is great for Smite as well, but you've gotta play it differently

[spiral storm]

then I would disagree

it really only works with BB

[severe folio]

no

[spiral storm]

since warpsiphon gives you higher overall buffs without being limited to 3 shots

[digital narwhal]

I disagree.
Warp Siphon is the way to go for Smite unless you're using the EP Smite Surge bug.

[long wharf]

Sounds like you haven't tried assail in auric missions

[lyric burrow]

I saw that

[spiral storm]

for assail specifically

[lyric burrow]

I did not realize it was like that

[spiral storm]

I mostly use assail now

[long wharf]

Whoops, replied to the wrong person

[shell igloo]

EP smite can be used for powerful wave clear without surge bug

[fluid knot]

Ye nuts innit

Really super aggressive pull to target

[digital narwhal]

Warp Siphon Smite wave clear >>>>>>>> EP Smite wave clear

[wet belfry]

Im unhappy to learn that console players seem even more dumb now

[digital narwhal]

Use Creeping Flames

boom

loop it

[spiral storm]

since smite or trauma works better against carapace or flak hordes

[digital narwhal]

everything dies

[lyric burrow]

Never wanna see xbox players missing

[spiral storm]

than bb

[fluid knot]

[severe folio]

you are also throwing everything around with trauma

but yes go ahead and keep the horde down with smite

[fluid knot]

Given the state of that clip, they'd have to be full on facing the other way to miss

[severe folio]

though why would you bring smite if you have trauma

[spiral storm]

wait sorry

I meanmt surge not smite

[severe folio]

you might as well use mk4 DS if you have to face a carapace horde

rather than surging them

[crystal oxide]

Assail actually does require some finesse, I'm glad

[severe folio]

when you have to face a carapace/flak horde thats when the purg can help

without throwing them around

[crystal oxide]

Was in a squad of three psykers, and I still performed far better than them

[severe folio]

why are you performing better than them

[spiral storm]

best purg blessinngs?

[severe folio]

because you have assail ?

[severe folio]

flurry nexus

[crystal oxide]

No they all had it too which is hilarious

[shell igloo]

Warp flurry, warp nexus is the traditional go-to. Purg benefits extra from crits.

[severe folio]

guess its just assail thing

[crystal oxide]

Granted I'm playing a gun psyker, so I was using the cool downtime to snipe away

[wet belfry]

Im not really that impressed by assail currently.

[severe folio]

its prob the gun then

[crystal oxide]

Probably? I was using it specifically to hard counter maulers and ragers

[wet belfry]

its just another build in the pond that can reach high damage.

where there are many such builds

[crystal oxide]

That helmet doesnt do shit against rifle round to the chest

[severe folio]

assail isnt something you would go for if you want high damage

[wet belfry]

Not alone no

Usally combine it with a ranged weapon like a gun.

[severe folio]

then what exactly are you unimpressed by with assail

[lyric burrow]

Apparently

[still hearth]

Smite*

BB isn't viable

Go away

[wet belfry]

The claim is that assail beats every other psyker build.

[fluid knot]

Bb is viable, its just less good than other stuffs

[primal blade]

okay which brother or sister was possessed by a daemon of the warp ?

hands up

[severe folio]

they are probably fukin stupid

[crystal oxide]

I'm not unimpressed, I was saying I'm glad it requires some actual skill if you want to do well with it

[primal blade]

this is some tzeentchian scheme down to it being stupid

[still hearth]

I mean I said they could just do that in Zealot chat yeah

[crystal oxide]

Not as braindead as I assumed

[severe folio]

was talking to wilmer

[crystal oxide]

Ahhh

[spiral storm]

tbh gun psyker still seems like a bit of a meme to me

a decent meme

[still hearth]

It's viable to keep in my pocket the entire run

[frigid zenith]

It's a meme, but a meme that works.

[spiral storm]

but 🤷

[fluid knot]

I dont think anyone who actually plays the game gives a single fuck about this tbh

[wet belfry]

You need more pratice sibling.

[fluid knot]

Its just the people in general who spend 24 hours a day bitching about FS

[primal blade]

i will hug my voidstrike till the end of days

[severe folio]

gunpsyker is the highest damage a psyker can get

because guns are stronger than staff

[spiral storm]

I mean yes purely because of the revolver

[fluid knot]

Laspistol

[spiral storm]

well

[wet belfry]

Guns bring their advantages and disadvantages

[spiral storm]

plus the other buffs

[fluid knot]

Vraks III

Vraks VII

[severe folio]

columnus

[frank moat]

lmao

[wet belfry]

But most guns are way better at killing specials, elites then staffs are.

[fluid knot]

Ye Columnus

[spiral storm]

yeah any of the good guns

[severe folio]

graia

[fluid knot]

Not tried that yet, canne say

[frigid zenith]

It's really not. Givin ideal conditions, gunpsyker and taruma blaze or even pure voidstrike do about the same damage in the same game.

[spiral storm]

but I would still prefer the utility of staffs

[steel flame]

Another stupid drama on the stupid Internet

[spiral storm]

plus ammo limitations

[wet belfry]

They can also bring a boss killing potenial that pskyer just doesnt have otherwise without guns

[spiral storm]

also maybe i'm building it wrong but

gun psyker's tree seems kinda annoying

[severe folio]

Well given any condition the gunpsyker will deal sustainingly high damage, dont need "ideal condition"

[fluid knot]

Well thats the tradeoff innit, you either take a gun and go high-alpha or you take a staff and go for consistency

[frigid zenith]

Staff will generally pull ahead of gunspyker until a boss spawns.

[spiral storm]

does the bottom right keystone still suck to use?

[steel flame]

Laspistol goes brrrrr

[spiral storm]

needing to find that one dude in a horde to kill and hope your teammate doesn't kill it?

[primal blade]

unless the adipose salmon gives us a bolter OR a staff that is more explosive than voidstrike i am not giving up the voidstrike
i want to see a horde and not see it with the juicy sound of explosions

[wet belfry]

I wouldnt bother with most of the "gun pskyer tree"

[frigid zenith]

Just had a couple games in a row last night with a friend who is a very good gunpsyker, we both hit about 600k damage consitantly in AMs.

[umbral helm]

I just play both gun and staff in equal measure. they have their pros and cons, like anything

[wet belfry]

Scriers in particular is a bad abillty.

[frigid zenith]

If anything, the trauma staff CCs so much it allows the gunpsyker to do MORE damage.

[primal blade]

i care about 2 things and 2 things only

• explosions
• removing hordes in matters of seconds

[frigid zenith]

If you're having fun, do you.

[severe folio]

what kind of babbling is this

[spiral storm]

I don't like using the voidstrike much anymore

after the damage nerf it feels

slower

like a surge staff does similar damage but with more cc

though less crowd damage I guess

[lyric burrow]

Im just glad we get something idk why everyone cares so much

[severe folio]

surge dont penetrate through the crowd

[frigid zenith]

There were a lot of times when he would have had to stop shooting and defend in overwhelming situations but I was able to CC everything around him with trauma so he could keep applying damage.

[steel flame]

Both dd and scrier are amazing, y'all need to quit drinking the chaos coolaid

[primal blade]

see i don't use the voidstrike as my primary

Assail as primary
Illisi as melee
Voidstrike to remove an entire horde and sometimes remove a rager from existence

[small whale]

dd is bad cause its broken though

it doesnt highlight on bruisers

[steel flame]

DD is not bad and it's not broken....

[spiral storm]

even if it's not broken

it FEELS shit to use

[wet belfry]

20% crit chance, 10% damage...

[spiral storm]

having to pick out one dude in a horde

sucks

especially when it's random

[lyric burrow]

I do think theres a bug with things untargeting but yeah i think DD is good

[severe folio]

40% damage at 30 but ok

[fluid knot]

Ye its a bit like that init. Regardless we're getting free shit. All those folks having a bitch about it are being infantile as fuck

[primal blade]

zealot , veteran and the big boys can play with the big boys

i am there to keep their backs clean

[severe folio]

• warp rider

[wet belfry]

You dont reach 30 outside some really specific scenarios.

[frigid zenith]

meh, just use an braced gun and crouch, gotta have the cleave.

[severe folio]

why wouldnt you reach 30

[wet belfry]

even then the 30 doesnt apply during the abilltys period.

It only applies after

[primal blade]

my only desire is we get the hood xp

[wet belfry]

Warp rider meanwhile is just 10% damage extra at max peril.

[severe folio]

what are you talking about

[fluid knot]

Im afraid thats Zealot

[spiral storm]

My only real problem with trauma is when other people use it

[wet belfry]

The second part of this sentence only starts AFTER scrier has ended.

[spiral storm]

people never actually check that they killed an enemy and not just knocked them down

so constantly dudes will get up behind us

[steel flame]

And 20% more movement speed, and toughness damage reduction, and the fact that crit feats like empathic evasion and weapon blessing like infernus or surge exist

[wet belfry]

If you invest in the talents ye

[lyric burrow]

People just like to complain about FS whenever possible. I did get being annoyed xbox got something but now we get something and its not equivalent enough or w/e

[fluid knot]

Yeah dont think many people enjoy those who use it badly

[wet belfry]

but then you lose talents to spend elsewhere

Also just a question

[light elm]

How one get Clifhanger penance?

[frigid zenith]

Thats probably people playing without blazing spirit, gotta let em burn.

[wet belfry]

Would you rather have 15 more toughness or 20% damage reduction occasionaly?

[primal blade]

it is zealot but it should be all class except ogryn

[spiral storm]

tbh the zealot crusher is giga underated

damage is on the lower end

[primal blade]

cuz ogryn has a bigger head than everyone

[fluid knot]

Yep. Most likely case. I mean look at general, its a bunch of people who're never in any other chat, which leads me to beleive they dont actually play the game an are just here to complain day in day out

[lyric burrow]

Yeah crusher is good now

[spiral storm]

but it's basically a trauma staff with no warp peril

activate special, do one light attack

repeat

stun anything that isn't a mutant in a massive radius over and over and over

[frigid zenith]

I don't think I'll be able to give up the thunderhammer on zealot.

If it's not a thunderhammer its for sure a mk9 heavy sword.

[spiral storm]

yeah the thunderhammer gives seratonin injections when you hit the phat damage

[lyric burrow]

Hsword + laspistol has made me a zealot main recently

[frigid zenith]

It really does.

[spiral storm]

but I still stick to crusher on auric usually

[frigid zenith]

laspistol rips.

[steel flame]

I would rather murder everything i see, be super fast with +40%-+60% movement speed, and be immune to ranged damage

[spiral storm]

because I don't trust my team to be able to handle multiple crushers

[frigid zenith]

crusher just gives you a shit ton of breathing room with CC.

[spiral storm]

so having the crusher to stun every single crusher in a radius helps

[wet belfry]

Im not going to focus on DD by the way

I only care about how good scrier is

[steel flame]

Why

[frigid zenith]

HAving a trauma blaze psyker and a thunderhammer zealot is hilarious.

[steel flame]

That's dumb

[wet belfry]

Becuase DD might be good or might not be

Its to bugged to tell

[primal blade]

honestly

if we got a spell wheel like 3 spells or something i would never use anything but spells x3 but that ain't how the game structured

[wet belfry]

Scriers meanwhile from what i currently know already looks objectively bad.

[steel flame]

Your still ignoring how much literal bullshit scrier enables

[primal blade]

imagine if we had all psyker powers but only 1 could be upgraded

[severe folio]

im not sure if you actually know what scier is

im not feeling this "only 30% damage after scrier end"

[wet belfry]

Check it in the psykanium

[fluid knot]

https://youtu.be/q6a2ELvld4U?si=V_EO_0RmicZcbwKD Choon ❤️

[real silo]

i have like an average 155rating on curios equipped, do i have to make that bigger to get a +3 stamina curio? im checking every hour for days and farming curious playing and i dont get anything bigger than +2

[restive slate]

Scryer Gaze, my beloved

Enables the strongest Gun Psyker builds

[lyric burrow]

I like scriers cause it lets me do literally whatever i want with duelling sword as well

Also good for guns like las pistol or vraks obv

[restive slate]

I use with IAG

[umbral helm]

I choose my abilities based on what voice lines I feel like hearing that mission

[lyric burrow]

Yeah columnus too

Haven't tried psyker Columnus yet

[restive slate]

Crazy crit string boss damage

[umbral helm]

hearing my psyker just chant "kill" with increasing intensity on activation scratches the funny itch

[frank moat]

You need the base rating to roll above 75 to be a +3 stam with how Fat Shark rounding works

[severe folio]

is it true the 30 stack only apply after scrier end

[frail sand]

does laspistol handle maulers/crushers

[frank moat]

Anything below 76 will be a +1/2 stam, perks don’t make a difference

[spiral storm]

maulers yes crushers no

[lyric burrow]

Maulers are fine cause body shots work not crushers as much

[spiral storm]

unless you just use crits

[lyric burrow]

Although if you have rending applied through knife or something its probably fine

[frail sand]

with that loadout, how do u handle crushers (i want to try it too)

[spiral storm]

uuuh

probalby just hope for crits

[lyric burrow]

Usually just dance with them using hsword and F or immolation nade them

Heavy > special isn't terrible at taking them out

But not amazing

[steel flame]

aight, since your so hell bent on ignoring how good high crit chance is, lets just ignore all the weapon blessings for now. from the feat tree alone you've got mettle with 15% movement speed and toughness regen, Perfect timing for another 15% warp attack power, empathic evasion with ranged damage immunity, ANOTHER 20% movement speed from scrier, 10% damage + up to another 30% based on howlong you are in scrier (lets call this another 15% to average it out), another 15-30% more finesse damage (weakspot +crit damage), and 20% toughness reduction,

[frail sand]

cuz in pubs im scared to take any loadout that can't handle everything

[frozen osprey]

Hello proot

[severe folio]

is it true the 30 stack only apply after scrier end

[lyric burrow]

You could replace hsword with dclaw if you want

[steel flame]

i know its true for finesse

[frail sand]

hemlo

[steel flame]

its hard to test the damage

[frozen osprey]

Hai!!!!!!

[spiral storm]

honestly it's just a good way to build

if only one person is taking anti armor and they get fucked

your whole team is fucked

[umbral helm]

sometimes that's just how the dice rolls

[steel flame]

honeslty though, having more damage and finesse damage after the ult isnt really bad at all, keeps the dps up

[spiral storm]

with a premade or with randoms

everyone should be able to take care of themselves

if you want to use funny infinite ammo recon lasgun build at least bring a power sword

[lyric burrow]

That doesnt work anymore really

They nerfed the crit strings on recon so you no longer get infinite ammo

Last i knew

[limber tartan]

I run that perk with my helbore it soo funny

I never need to pick up ammo

[spiral storm]

yeah but people still try to do it with the perk that eats your stamina

[midnight river]

you guys like making peoples heads explode?

[limber tartan]

I also run it with 3 curios with 3 stamina each

[midnight river]

i like making peoples heads explode

[severe folio]

no i mean, he said the 30% damage dont apply while scrier counting up, and i cant really test that

[spiral storm]

the perk eats a % of stamina

[steel flame]

we dont know

[limber tartan]

oh no it was changed

[spiral storm]

doesn't the stamina curios do nothing for it?

[limber tartan]

It used to drain %

Now it drains a set amount

[spiral storm]

yeah

4% per shot

[glossy ember]

no, applies during. Source: i can 2 shot maulers with surge staff at 15-20 stacks

[spiral storm]

it applies during

[wet belfry]

I did just test

[spiral storm]

and sticks around for X amount of time even after it ends

[wet belfry]

Id say yes it applies after

[glossy ember]

should be 10s

I wish it wasnt that short tho

[steel flame]

This is the build I use with laspistol and in all my time playing psyker I have never felt as comfortable being away from the group as I do with this build, it handles everything and the speed you can achieve plus the ranged immunity from empathic, man you can do so much bullshit, can basically play like a zealot

[glossy ember]

doesnt feel rewarding, should be 30s imo, as long as how much u take to build em

[orchid shadow]

Someone's head is gonna explode. Theirs or my own.

[spiral storm]

oh wait yeah

I read it wrong

it went from % to flat

[glossy ember]

wait, that means my stamina curio is garbo. FUCK

[limber tartan]

@steel flame i run pretty much the same with some differences but i recommend trying out the other perk for disrupt destiny that increases the max stacks to 30 instead of increasing the duration

[severe folio]

i dont know, i removed warp rider, the damage does go up while scrier climbing, the critless hit

[glossy ember]

that also means i never realized i had 2 stams instead of 3

[steel flame]

yeah, ive tossed the idea around quite a few times

now that im pretty comfortable with how dd highlights things i can probably go for 30

[limber tartan]

Yea there are multible marked enemies but only one is "visibly" marked at the same time

[digital narwhal]

Some dude called me a "filthy bug abuser" in-game because I'm using Surge with EP Smite.
Like... I've been using this build since Patch 13 dropped, and it's not my fault the bug exists.

[limber tartan]

Its actually pretty easy to get to 30 stacks and keep them

Sometimes you wont even realise you hit max

[steel flame]

im usually pegged at 15 forever

[limber tartan]

Yea

And you only need to kill 10 dudes with headshots to have 30 stacks which is really not a big deal

[spiral storm]

the palpatine bug

or the surge being buffed by EP

[digital narwhal]

The Palpatine bug is gone

I'm on about EP Smite buffing Surge

[spiral storm]

yeah

I didn't use the palpatine bug but it was cool to see

it was basically the only way smite was viable

[limber tartan]

@steel flame Matter of a fact this is what i run my self

[stuck bridge]

yes it keeps happening, ive had people throw a fit and leave

what class were they

[wet belfry]

Im not seeing the increase till scriers itself ends.

[digital narwhal]

Veteran

[steel flame]

@limber tartan ill never understand how people can rationalize dd as bad cause the damage boost you get from it is fucking massive

[glossy ember]

if it makes you feel better, people also call me that and leave games even though I don't even have EP on.

[limber tartan]

Its fucking insane

[steel flame]

and its way easier to stack than warp charges

[glossy ember]

there's a vendetta against all surge staff users lol

[umbral helm]

stigma

[limber tartan]

Granted it only works for crits and weakspot shots soo you're not gonna be using it to full potential if you can't hit those

[stuck bridge]

probably just upset that vet no longer has some of the bullshit it used to have

[glossy ember]

yes this word

[severe folio]

idk then my guy, i can feel an increase on my end

[steel flame]

oooooo noooooooo, skill required, GASP, auto trash feat

[wet belfry]

https://discord.gg/PpwxeQeP come

[stuck bridge]

that being said im using warp charges surge

[severe folio]

maybe tomorrow

[limber tartan]

Well there are people here that like assail and you don't have to aim with that soo they might be frightened by the concept

[glossy ember]

rmb surge no hit weakpoints

[sonic coral]

It's actually to boost my peril and for a few easy lazy warp kills for toughness regen while I run into combat or take out specials with laspistol

[umbral helm]

using it with surge requires occasional peppering with the primary fire

[wet belfry]

Scriers itself gives an 10% damage buff

[limber tartan]

Yea heavy lass pistol can combo really nicely with the perk that regens toughness on crits

[steel flame]

i love using assail with my scrier build cause the stagger is so good and it stacks dum dum, i barely use the dam thing but it does its moneys worth

[limber tartan]

Since it has that blessing that gives you like 17% toughness on weakspot crit kill

[steel flame]

you should try dumdum and infernus

[limber tartan]

I tried running it with other guns as well like the revolver but there is the reloading issue and ammo if i want to keep up my dd stacks

[sonic coral]

yea in my scrier + dueling sword + laspistol build assail is basically an ancillary tool to proc talent nodes, not so much an actual weapon

[steel flame]

the damage spikes really hard with both on laspistol

[limber tartan]

Headhunter works well too i just prefer laspistol for the quick swap speed, running speed, the alternate fire on it and ammo count

and i mean that the laspistol has basically force push

[wet belfry]

236 NO SCRIER, NO BUFF
260 Scrier started
260 near 100% peril scrier
264 Scrier has ended, buff active

[limber tartan]

With a surprising range

[wet belfry]

This was with no kills during the scrier phase which generates 12 stacks.

[umbral helm]

proccing scrier's with a laspistol temporarily turns you into a movespeed zealot with the node that adds some, I remember my team being confused when I just suddenly sped along out of nowhere

[limber tartan]

Yea basically

[steel flame]

the push on las is really good, 11m and goes through walls and has the same force as regular push

[limber tartan]

• the fact that with the right nodes you will "dodge" on crits making gunners loose tracking on you

[severe folio]

someone should check with wilmer about whether scrier apply buff during or after it end

whether it apply the remaining 30%

during scrier or after

[steel flame]

i would but its too much trouble

[limber tartan]

Scriers gives you the default amount right away

But if you're using precognition the buff from headshots will apply after it ends

For the 10 duration it lasts after it ends

[severe folio]

what about the 1% damage every second

[umbral helm]

I'm likely going to continue using it regardless of the result so I don't care if they're right or not

[severe folio]

is that being apply realtime or only after scrier end

[steel flame]

not even pygex has fully tested the damage stack timing for scrier

[limber tartan]

soo for the duration you will be having 14% if you're just shooting and not quelling

And then it ends it will jump to 30

[summer prairie]

the laspistol push can be used to stagger reset DD through walls if you really have to

[limber tartan]

Unless you're using a force sword with exorcist then you should reach upper twenties before it ends

soo it guarantees you 30% when it ends

[severe folio]

but does it give you below 30 while its activate ?

wilmer is testing and he saying hes not getting fluctuate numbers

[umbral helm]

[limber tartan]

Because precognition only applies after it ends

which is kind of weird

[severe folio]

what about no precognition

[limber tartan]

Then the alternative is the -20% peril gain

[severe folio]

just the 1% per second

[limber tartan]

WHich gives you 1 second

which is 1% for duration

: )

[umbral helm]

hey, 1 second is a long time, alright. not all of us can be 2 Second Andy's over here

[wet belfry]

Precog talent is actually generating flucating numbers.

[glossy ember]

maybe i ought to try it out...

scrier dd surge

[severe folio]

terrible idea

[glossy ember]

which part

[umbral helm]

it is, so do it

[glossy ember]

[severe folio]

lose out weakspot buff from dd

or give it to the dumb primary fire

[limber tartan]

Alright i checked it out and precognition actually does apply the inrease during the duration of scrier's gaze

but its kind of weird

as if it does not count like 20% of the time

[severe folio]

but what about the scrier gaze raw damage

the base one

[umbral helm]

I bid you, hone your spirit. Refine it. I shall await you in the crucible of souls.

[limber tartan]

10% is what you get for damage buff when you activate it +20% crit chance

[glossy ember]

oh wait, yeah i'd lose 25% dmg at 10 stacks and would only gain 10%

[severe folio]

so it just give a fresh 30% when it end, but what about while its still counting up does it give those damage

[limber tartan]

if you end up with max stacks you will have + 40% damage buff and + 20% crit chance

yea

the buff just increases through the duration

[severe folio]

and what about while its active, and the count goes up

does the damage go up

[limber tartan]

Let me check actually

[wet belfry]

Make sure to remove precog

[severe folio]

and warp rider

[limber tartan]

Yes

[primal blade]

i changed up my weapons design a bit

[wet belfry]

or just in general having a weapon that scales

[limber tartan]

It does go up when its active

[wet belfry]

Are you sure?

[primal blade]

the bigger blade really gives that cool factor

[wet belfry]

Is it without warp rider?

what weapon?

[summer prairie]

Ignore the movement speed analyzer, decent boss dps if not realistic in practice https://streamable.com/lg61j6

[severe folio]

how are you customizing this far, i dont think i could customize it with that customize mod

[limber tartan]

Oh hold on you said without warp rider

[wet belfry]

Yes warp rider will affect the result

[umbral helm]

[glossy ember]

just quell

[limber tartan]

Yes it does increase

Warp rider just increases it further but the sole buff from scrier's gaze does increase the damage during the duration of the ability

[wet belfry]

https://discord.gg/PaWqPE4f

Come here

Stream for me

[primal blade]

update the mod

[idle bay]

Melk brought me the reason to spend some melkies. Even i don't use Obscurus - i need that one

[primal blade]

mortis operative skin is something from my own collection xp

But the mod always keeps improving it added a few new things

[severe folio]

pls send me the updated ver lol

im not in the server

wait i can join that mod server now

anyone got the link to it

[rare storm]

To the modders discord?

[severe folio]

yeah

[rare storm]

Or for extended extended weapon customisation

[severe folio]

well

yes that one

[rare storm]

It's in the #📌communities

[severe folio]

if the custom mod is in a different server

that is not on that list

[primal blade]

weapon customization is in the modders discord

[severe folio]

thankss

[glossy ember]

hm

does weak point also count as crit damage modifier

for dd

[severe folio]

if it is then it would be a bug

like trauma does that

trauma crit kill apparently count as weakspot kill ?

[glossy ember]

maybe dd has potential for surge staff yet

[strange nova]

am i mad, or are people shredding enemies with smite?

i was just in a game with a psyker who was wrecking face with it

I checked, it wasnt surge staff

im v.confused

[rare storm]

wdym

[shell igloo]

If you run empowered psionics with smite, it can make a great waveclear tool

[crystal oxide]

Hmmm, so is the force sword the best, smacka crusher anywhere with a special weapon we get?

[shell igloo]

If you're consistently clearing large wave, you'll often earn back all of your EP charges so you can just keep clearing

[strange nova]

anyone got a good EP zap build?

[rare storm]

if you want to brainlessly just use surge and nothing else

[hazy cedar]

Anywhere? I guess. Dueling sword can pretty reliably 2 poke crushers to the head though

[umbral helm]

I enjoy cutting them in half with an illisi charged swipe sometimes

[near wyvern]

There is no single best weapon, there are weapons which do something the best

[umbral helm]

mileage will also vary depending on skill of the user, but people don't like admitting that part as often

[crystal oxide]

I mainly want anti armor which is reliable

[modest pasture]

This is why i only make OCs.

[umbral helm]

original the character, donut steel

[hazy cedar]

Dueling sword mk4 with uncanny strike and rampage. Spam heavies at armor and you're good to go. Spam lights for horde

[mental rock]

I don't use my DS for hordes so I have precog instead of rampage, I don't know how good it is though

[ornate hamlet]

So I made two Psykers - one female and one male because I can't decide which to choose. Help me decide?

[floral thorn]

thr one you like more hope this helps

[bleak tulip]

female unless youre really into that awful screeching german accent

[ornate hamlet]

i chose seer for male and the female is the older women soundding one

kind of like an old lady

[bleak tulip]

I like all of the female psyker voices better

[strong gulch]

Rampage stacks are really nice, but non-armor enemies are needed to keep them up because of the cleave requirements.

If you are only fighting armor, shred/ riposte / precog would serve you better.

[near wyvern]

For that your options are Deimos of Duelling Sword Mk 4, Combat Blade can also be used for this purpose but it has lower DPS and is a bit harder to use. Deimos is the defensive option while DS4 is all about offense.

[eternal junco]

That's the aesthetic

[plucky flax]

Male loner my unsanctioned psyker.

[eternal junco]

idk about you but when I think batshit insane I think German old guy

[strong gulch]

I'd play them a bit to see if the voices annoy you.

[ornate hamlet]

hmm ok

[strong gulch]

There's a number of people who are invested in their characters but hate their voices. 💀 RIP

[static mango]

Seer gaming

[umbral helm]

I don't remember the names of them but I run the one that talks about his Beloved all the time

[static mango]

Have a voice in your head that calls you Stud Muffin

[ornate hamlet]

I chose The Seer for voices both female and male psyker

[umbral helm]

honestly picked him on a whim and ended up liking him because a lot of how he responds to things are how I do, really solidified for me when he responded to one of the female psykers going crazy with "well I'm glad someone's enjoying themselves"

[mental rock]

I like the loner because of how heretical she can be

[static mango]

Seer is just fun all round

[mental rock]

Like an actual reasonable person

[static mango]

Savant is a massive boot licker

[strong gulch]

Female seer gets excited about stairs and is afraid of doors opening. 😂

[mental rock]

That's HERESY

[ornate hamlet]

is that a bad thing?

[static mango]

Loner is pretty funny though

[strong gulch]

If you hate it then yeah. It's my favorite.

[umbral helm]

"if they're closer they're harder to miss"

[eternal junco]

nothing better than hearing your psyker whisper to Beloved in the middle of a firefight

[crystal oxide]

Ahhh right

[static mango]

"FEAR ME! FEAR ME!..oops."

[umbral helm]

"yes, Beloved. hiding is cheating"

[crystal oxide]

Gawd bombers just wreck us psykers

[static mango]

"Why am I in the middle of this? It's not fair!"

[strong gulch]

"Healing is only for real people, not dreams."

[crystal oxide]

All that toughness regen doesnt mean shit when we're on fire

[umbral helm]

"ohoho I've killed such a lot of people. I'm glad it's not real"

[ornate hamlet]

yeah the seer's voice fits my character the best

so you think the female is better?

[bright mica]

almost had a 0 damage game </3

[strong gulch]

I like the female the most, but I also like older "femme" voices.

OH! You can probably look up videos of the voices.

[ornate hamlet]

here's how they look in-game:

[bright mica]

my character in game :D

[static mango]

I'm just not a fan of the skull bandana

Very CoD

[ornate hamlet]

which do you like better?

[bright mica]

the girl cus im a lesbiam

[umbral helm]

I had an interaction a few matches ago that I'd never heard before, psyker did an impression of one of the zealots with the accent and everything

[ornate hamlet]

whats that

[bright mica]

🤤 women,.,

[ornate hamlet]

oo

now i kinda of want glowing eyes

[static mango]

Women don't exist in the grim dark future I'm afraid

[still hearth]

Don't run the Elite gives charges

Just never use Smite

[mental rock]

So the sisters have wieners?

[still hearth]

And you get one extra node

[static mango]

Uncanny disguises put over the entire Empire by the Emperor's mind powers

[crystal oxide]

This only makes them better

[spice oar]

Male Loner hate will not be allowed in this chat

[ornate hamlet]

which of my psykers do you like better

[mental rock]

Agreed

[still hearth]

What

[crystal oxide]

Also whew. Most of my wipes in Heresy so far have been due to mauler and crusher spam

[strong gulch]

Cis men and trans men only confirmed.

[crystal oxide]

The psyker heavy squads ive been in have no ranged anti armour

[ornate hamlet]

i made two psykers

[still hearth]

I didn't see.

[spice oar]

what models did you use in the customisation for those 2?

[umbral helm]

"ye dinnae have to flinch so every time I come near. I'm not going to harm ye."
"really? ...that's not what you said yesterday."
"that was in the heat of the moment, it does nae count."
" 'aye, I'll flay ye alive, accursed freak' you said. it was very hurtful."
"yes, yes, yes. I'm sorry, alright?"

[bright mica]

the only staff I use is surge so... 😭

[crystal oxide]

Debating running a revolver. Even if I don't quite like it on principle. But being able to two tap crushers and maulers is just too useful

[spice oar]

...what is a flarkmark

[still hearth]

Yes.

[bright mica]

I don't see an issue, would work well on a gaze + assail for medium range and horde-clear aid build I imagine

[spice oar]

lemme see cause it sounds funny af

[ornate hamlet]

whats that mean

[static mango]

Revolver gaming with smite

[still hearth]

Yes

[spice oar]

and i mean as in ill go check

[strong gulch]

There is a shop in the mourningstar that let's you change your appearance btw. You can change everything but your height and voice.

[ornate hamlet]

oo cool

[static mango]

Warp charges shouldn't get spent on combat abilities though

[spice oar]

let me change my voice

its criminal that i cant enjoy all these talented voice lines

[strong gulch]

Means both are good.

[ornate hamlet]

hmm

[crystal oxide]

Oh I know revolver is good. And on my Vet I use it often. Just feels bad to have to forgo my Vraks MkVII

[static mango]

Revolver is big hand cannon funny moments

[umbral helm]

you'd think they would have stuff to give you a different voice, but I guess that's one of those weird limitations they haven't quite figured out yet in the future because... yes

[strong gulch]

I struggle with choices sometimes. Flip a coin or roll a die if you need to.

[ornate hamlet]

yeah same

[static mango]

Also rapier iv

Sweet succulence

[crystal oxide]

Also the funny moment when assail does better than the leveling up guns I have at just deleting maniac ragers

The flak ones die pretty easily

[static mango]

Assail is still in a weird spot

Though it's no surge staff lmao

[crystal oxide]

I liked having a surge staff psyker follow me around

They stun lock I delete with micro missiles

[umbral helm]

seeing the kill feed fill is satisfying, but I like achieving the same results with other things for the fun of it

[frank moat]

Total character change token for 500 Aquilas

[static mango]

I'm rating gun psyker with smite

Gives you lots of cc and damage. Pretty epic

[crystal oxide]

Smite stun locks?

I thought it just sets stuff on fire

[umbral helm]

it's like I was telling a friend recently, I use Dark Souls as an example a lot with this. I have the build knowledge to make something that's really, really effective and I could very easily make something that'd make stuff a cakewalk. ...but I don't want to do that. I want to use the worse stuff and make it as good or better than the great stuff.

[static mango]

It stuns everything

[frank moat]

It used to set PC’s on fire but they fixed that

[static mango]

Smite is goated...until it doesn't catch one dude right next to you

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016

[ornate hamlet]

is this a male or female psyker cant tell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PDdF9qcqWs

[umbral helm]

simply set mouse sensitivity to max and 360 with smite at all times

[static mango]

Sounds like the French girl

[frank moat]

I’m gonna say female based on his character name being Lilith

[static mango]

Female Savant?

[ornate hamlet]

hmm ok

[static mango]

Rattles on about enforcers all the time

Worse than Cadians

[umbral helm]

I think that's the one my psyker teased about going crazy

"well I'm glad someone's enjoying themselves"

[crystal oxide]

Ahh..huh so it has a safety net similar to Vet shout?

[static mango]

Very much so

[frank moat]

I love the accent, but seriously

FOR THE LEX ATOMA

[static mango]

I just can't do it

[umbral helm]

to defend my dream

[static mango]

Beloved is charming, Heresy is funny, brown nosing Space cops is just eughhh

Though get me an enforcer in the game, that'd be cool

But like the Ratling prattling it gets old if it isn't actually setting anything up

Like the warp scar

Lore dumps

😡

[frank moat]

I wish I was actually learning lore from the dialogue

[umbral helm]

every time the ratling thing gets discussed and they mention "how can something so small be so dangerous" me and my friends laugh and just point to the gremlin of our group that'd be a khornite if she could

[static mango]

Ratling would be anazing

[frank moat]

But despite the dozens of “what is this Cicatrix Maledictum?” dialogue prompts i still don’t know what it even is

Besides being a bad thing

[umbral helm]

a rip in the jorts of the universe

[static mango]

Gremlin critter that's drunk, equal parts merry and mean screwing with the team but also getting then prime cut ribs so they tolerate it

[fresh reef]

[umbral helm]

we're not in Australia so no it doesn't work very well

[ornate hamlet]

i like female psyker better I think. I think it fits the whole witch theme better

[glossy ember]

Is DD testable in psykhenarium?

[frank moat]

I think you need to disable invisibility with Creature Spawner in order for it to mark enemies

[viscid matrix]

No

Let’s just say it works, the marking is visually inconsistent, but it seems to work reguardless

[glossy ember]

that's ass

[calm vine]

ok so question

do the smite buffs effect the electric staff

like

the +1 jump

[glossy ember]

+1 yes

[calm vine]

does that effect the lightrning

[glossy ember]

10% no

[calm vine]

hhm

the other buffs?

[glossy ember]

+1 is like 5% damage on the third target tho so outside of cc worthless

[glossy ember]

if u mean 125% dmg from EP, yes

[orchid shadow]

Might be useful for that extra shot at the crit buff from Mettle.

[glossy ember]

oh i mean, that's true

very handy for instant max mettle stacks

i always forget about that

[heady garnet]

Is it trolling if I take perilous combustion with Voidstrike or a gun?

[glossy ember]

no

[heady garnet]

Nice

[acoustic spade]

would've been a full team of 4x Smite Psykers but 2 of them chickened out :<

[sonic coral]

You should almost never not take combustion, even in its current state

Unless you are running a pacifist support psyker

[ornate hamlet]

which class u guys think is best for female

[fluid knot]

So you'er about as clued up about it as the average imperium citizen

[glossy ember]

what does this sentence mean

a female character, afemale player, best female voice?

[hollow jolt]

I guess Ogryn is pretty feminine

[ornate hamlet]

Also, y'all ever seen the weapon I use the least?

[glossy ember]

i'm experimenting without currently. need more results to bring an argument but i think you can play without and notlose as much as you might think.

[hollow jolt]

But Deimos does her best :c

[sonic coral]

It's not essential, no

[upbeat schooner]

why is the right one so tiny???

hobbit sized wtf

[sonic coral]

If you're squeezed for points trying to make a build work and you're not running something with rending or anything else related to blaze it's just a mild tangential benefit

[frank moat]

Because max height is too big and min height is too smol

[glossy ember]

tbh just having it is like 5~10% of my total damage so i'd argue it's bretty yuge for one talent point

[frank moat]

🤨

[sonic coral]

I think combustion can a lifesaver in hi shock dam when the screen is full and killing is constant and all is fire

[smoky fractal]

aye dont make fun of short kings

[glossy ember]

and thats without rending or soulblaze sources outside of pc

[sonic coral]

Especially with vent and rending

Outside of that, limited tangential benefit moment to moment to be sure

[glossy ember]

it goes between 10 and 35k damage for me by itself

10k*

[sonic coral]

I don't use scoreboard, I mainly adjust from situational results in matches and experimenting in meat grinder

But that's not inconsequential

[ornate hamlet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/935989994735169546/1079085063888707594/skull.gif

[glossy ember]

as i said 5~10% of my total damage. I average 400k total damage, so it's bug

[sonic coral]

Yep

[glossy ember]

esp for a build not tailored to soulblaze at all

or rending

[frank moat]

You can’t hide that you renamed it from me, sibling

I sense your regrets

[ornate hamlet]

I renamed nothing

Nerd

https://tenor.com/view/mgs-brick-snake-gif-10437715

[glossy ember]

now the only issue is, where that extra damage goes. If it's only on horde then it's not great. If it's on elites it's a diff story.

[frank moat]

[glossy ember]

if it gets kills on specialits or specials then it's even more value

[ornate hamlet]

I ate absolute shit from ragers

I think I'll stick to dueling sword

[umbral helm]

https://tenor.com/view/terminal-montage-kirby-slapping-no-mad-gif-17332892

me to ragers with devil claw parry

[glossy ember]

hm, the more i think about it the less i see value in PC for my build since my goal is to burst elites as fast as possible and soulblaze probably doesn't help at all.

can't remember a time where it actually killed a specialist or elite itself while i wasnt looking

[edgy ibex]

Rager running at me as psyker starts yelling

[ornate hamlet]

just the character in general

[torpid girder]

For a smite/surge shield warp siphon build, would it be better to invest in soulblaze to get a bunch of warp charges or should I just get Psychic Vampire? I feel like I don't kill alot of specialists/elites with this build in the first place

[olive ember]

You are using surge staff

Ofc you aren’t killing anything

[glossy ember]

can you show us your build

[torpid girder]

umm i don't exactly have the best items right now but i've been trying to remedy that lol

but let me get wut i've been using in the talent tree

[ornate hamlet]

ngl

I wish we had an illisi with a more mixed moveset

[olive ember]

That’s supposed to be the obscures

But don’t use the obscures kekw

[ornate hamlet]

the special is shit tho

[torpid girder]

that's wut i've been using

[ionic needle]

I had fun running this with surge earlier. Kills quite a lot of stuff.

[ornate hamlet]

I want the deimos poke with the illisi special, pretty much

[ionic needle]

Not sure about wildfire but yeah

[ornate hamlet]

wouldn't mind the damage being nerfed

[olive ember]

Swap for peril resist first of all

2nd of all you can use shield but i prefer push with fire

Psyker doesn’t need that toughness gen imo, especially semi random toughness gen from warp charges

[torpid girder]

I feel like this is almost exactly the same as wut i'm using

[olive ember]

Peril resist will serve you better especially with a meme staff like surge

[torpid girder]

And is peril resist that important?

and I was told the surge was pretty good, should i just swap it for a diff staff :/

[clear heath]

neither are really that important

[olive ember]

If you don’t want to hit 70-80+ peril to kill one crusher yes

[clear heath]

just run peril res and see if you die or not

if you don't die, you don't need the toughness from essence harvest

[torpid girder]

I wasn't using essence harvest either, should I swap for that?

[olive ember]

Surge staff is fucking trash without bug imo

[ionic needle]

Yeah I'm not too sure about peril res or not, I've tried a game using each and can't feel a lot of difference either way

[olive ember]

But some people love the ability to kill a singular crusher by expending 80 peril

[clear heath]

surge staff is fine

[ionic needle]

It's really good with warp charges imo

[olive ember]

If really good is mediocre then I agree

[ionic needle]

I was surprised

[clear heath]

idk what the obsession with crushers is

[olive ember]

But again some people love it and without the bug warp charges is the way to go

[torpid girder]

I don't have a good surge staff yet so that could be contributing why I feel like I don't kill anything lol

[olive ember]

Would you prefer I said needs 2 charges to kill gunners?

[clear heath]

But it doesn't

[ionic needle]

It's good enough to slaughter in auric HISTG, which is good enough for me

[olive ember]

Just surge staff things

It does without flak

[clear heath]

take flak

[olive ember]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[clear heath]

sorry your 280 rating grey surge staff sucks bro

[olive ember]

I mean yes which is why I don’t talk about the 2 shot unless you take flak

Mfw the single target damage staff needs flak to even hit breakpoints for a gunner

No maniac + unyielding for surge staff lmao

[torpid girder]

So um... should I just use a voidstrike instead or something?...

[ionic needle]

Yeah pretty much except for auras and abilities

[olive ember]

Eh use what you want literally every staff is viable

[torpid girder]

i'm getting alot of mixed messages here lol

[lyric burrow]

Void is better but yeah use w/e

[ionic needle]

Try surge with the bug, that was fun

[clear heath]

void is better

[olive ember]

When I talk about surge staff being trash I mean it’s trash compared to every other staff

(Imo)

Tbh everything in this game is viable now except for like a select few weapons

[clear heath]

surge is still really easy to get top damage without any effort

voidstrike will get you more damage with more effort

[ionic needle]

Top damage doesn't matter

[olive ember]

It matters for a damage staff

[torpid girder]

i've been trying to avoid the bugs so I don't abuse them

[ionic needle]

The only thing that matters is special/disabler kills

[strong gulch]

A lot of what's recommended is for min max for the harder content; basically meta things.

You can use anything tho.

[olive ember]

Should run voidstrike then kekw

[torpid girder]

Is this a decent enough voidstrike? i have literally no plasteel

[glossy ember]

I'd ditch wildfire and either soul stealer or quietude

[olive ember]

Surge staff has two things going for it

[strong gulch]

Also keep in mind that it isn't just about "what is strongest", it's also how use use things.

[lyric burrow]

Damage is pretty important imo shows how well your build does. You should naturally be killing a fair amount of elites and specialists anyway

[olive ember]

It’s got a fast charge and it auto locks

[lyric burrow]

You dont need 900k or anything

[ionic needle]

I usually do, picked up surge just yesterday and have a lot of fun with it

[olive ember]

So ease of use/ ignores bulwark shields etc

[torpid girder]

Wut would I replace them with?

[clear heath]

the fast charge is the important part

[ionic needle]

The only staff I just can't stand using is trauma

[clear heath]

it kills weaker specials/elites really fast

[strong gulch]

I can use meta things with the "best" rolls and still not get top damage because of how I play.

[clear heath]

and you only really need a few elite/special kills to wipe a room with soulblaze from perilous combustion and creeping flames

[strong gulch]

yee

[clear heath]

when 1 kill basically deletes a room, time to kill a gunner matters

[strong gulch]

yip

[glossy ember]

that's what i'd try

[ionic needle]

Yeah I don't know about that. Creeping flames, perilous combust and wildfire feel really weak

[glossy ember]

you can move the points from smite somewhere else if you want

[torpid girder]

So just replace them with stat increase nodes?

[glossy ember]

for example, if you want better survivability

[torpid girder]

and wut if I run a voidstrike instead of a surge

[glossy ember]

oh idk anything about voidstrike

i only know surge sorry bro

[wet belfry]

Pick up true aim

[torpid girder]

Surge didn't really feel that good anyways so i'll just try out voidstrike

[ionic needle]

Take out one of the toughness regen talents and get kinetic deflection

[glossy ember]

surge staff is pretty good at that tho isn't it

[ionic needle]

VS is really fun too

[ionic needle]

As far as I've noticed yes

It's not as good at as plasma gun on my vet, but it does the job

[ornate hamlet]

astaghfirullah, I will use the achyls on the psyker

[torpid girder]

Sooo should I just get rid of all the soulblaze perks and then replace in fire reborn with psychic vampire and get true aim?

[ornate hamlet]

true aim is goated

[wet belfry]

1 point from damage on smite

[ornate hamlet]

🐐 ‼️

[glossy ember]

i mean hard to compete with that

[ornate hamlet]

I made it cute tho

[wet belfry]

I think psychic vampire, warp battery can also be discarded

Thats three points

[ionic needle]

i think this is my VS build

[torpid girder]

I really wanted the build to focus on being able to spam shields as much as I could tho

[wet belfry]

Enfeeble actually is a pretty bad support talent for smite

[torpid girder]

Really? hmm

[wet belfry]

+10% base damage

Its not a damage abillty to begin with

[ionic needle]

Yeah but it's a debuff

Your team mates benefit from it

[torpid girder]

Yea that's what I assumed

It says enemies take +10% damage from all sources so i assumed teammates attacking them would do 10% more

[clear heath]

Individually it might not be as strong, but it does well when you stack creeping flames and perilous

Also perilous combustion alone kills poxwalkers and groaners

[wet belfry]

Im assumeing base means that it multiplies from the weapons base stats

So no power or other stuff calculated in

So its abit less then 10%

[ionic needle]

That's cool, it's on damnation right?

[clear heath]

yeah

just make to shriek at 83.4% peril or higher

or else you won't get full stacks

[ionic needle]

I usually shriek at 90+ just to cap out stacks on blessing and stuff

Or even at 100 haha

[ornate hamlet]

I wouldn't spend a point on smite's 10% unless having points to spare

[glossy ember]

true

[digital narwhal]

Enfeeble is pretty weak, yeah

[silk hawk]

i am finally at home!

[near wyvern]

The only reason to put a point in it is if you are planning to do flame smites for horde

[clear heath]

Anyone else ever spammed melk's random curios in hopes of getting perfect stats?

it is painful

[ionic needle]

I don't think I've ever bought a random curio from him

Or even a random item at all tbh

[glossy ember]

aight boys

it's breakpoint testing time

[clear heath]

There was a time when i had 30k melk tokens

[glossy ember]

got the plasteel yday

[clear heath]

now i have 8k

[glossy ember]

now to actually swap my perks

[frank moat]

Yknow there’s a mod for this

[glossy ember]

well it got released like

today

or yday

didn't it

unsure of how stable it is rn

so i'd rather do it this way

[cosmic sigil]

Pygex, I have read your take about toughness regen perks. But if you're playing your psyker to be close range as much as possible, is it still useful? Because I read that coherency regen stops when you are near mobs

[clear heath]

I don't bother with regen curios anymore because we replenish so much from talents anyways

plus i'm addicted to clutching and i want curios to actually help when my team is dead

[stable silo]

if only the crit was flak otherwise not to shabby

im an illis enjoyer (light spam) though is the play with dueling swords spamming heavy pokes and special pokes ?

[near wyvern]

Yes it's still useful, especially when you get pinned down by ranged units.

[clear heath]

toughness regen seems to stop as soon as an enemy attempts to melee swing at you

[still hearth]

I believe it's distance based

[clear heath]

from trying in psykanium, it looks to me like it's distance based but only happens if their ai is active

[still hearth]

Hmm. It should be possible to check on Zealot with Loner and invis

[clear heath]

yeah that's what i did

well it was creature spawner invis

i'll try shroudfield

yeah shroudfield still lets you regen

they actually have to want to melee you it seems

[ornate hamlet]

Nah, you can do fine with lights too

The heavies are good for taggables

[clear heath]

Unsure if this affect applies if they're aggro on someone else though

[rare storm]

Would it have been possible to rescue this guy without triggering the dh lol

[clear heath]

if you meant something like this, yeah invis seems to allow you to regen

[cosmic sigil]

Hmm that's interesting

[clear heath]

Also gunners do not stall your toughness regen if you get close

even when they're trying to melee you

[cosmic sigil]

Is that a bug??

[clear heath]

so it's like, specifically a feature of melee enemies that are aggro

dunno if it's intentional or not

[glossy ember]

well damn, the breakpoitns are a lot worse than I thought it'd be

got the warp charges done, gonna try both perfect timing and warp charges now

[near wyvern]

What breakpoints are you testing? BR?

[ornate hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNe6J_nkQ9w

[cosmic sigil]

Wish crab was till there. Maybe @indigo portal has an idea?

[clear heath]

for anyone who wants to see it

[strong gulch]

I don't think so. 🥲

[cosmic sigil]

Thanks for the answer, I might remove tg regen or reduce it on my psyker. I run stam + deflector + wall on my most used setup.

[clear heath]

I think toughness regen is still a good perk

[cosmic sigil]

So being pinned down by shooters is not my first problem... 😄

[clear heath]

i just have my own reasons for not using it

it's like easily top 5 curio perks for psyker imo

[cosmic sigil]

Yeah but I could go from 90 to 30 and grab more tg

(or even sniper res)

[ornate hamlet]

To me the way is stacking sniper and gunner resist, and getting some stamina regen and toughness

like idfk, 3x gunner/sniper, 2x toughness and 1x stamina

[near wyvern]

It's more that there are no other perks that would be even that impactful so often

[hollow jolt]

I use a hp curio in psyker for this interaction

[near wyvern]

Pls no gunner resistance

[clear heath]

my favourite breakpoint for curio stats is reaching 197 hp with 1 sniper res curio so i don't get one-shot when someone picks me up

[near wyvern]

It's placebo

[hollow jolt]

I wish gunner resist also reduced their knockback lol

[clear heath]

I run a couple gunner res

[near wyvern]

Whyyy

[clear heath]

makes it more reactable when they pop up behind you and just unload

[ornate hamlet]

After two instances of a gunner backstabbing me from a ledge above, I don't play with them

[clear heath]

otherwise they kill way too fast

[rare storm]

Wow do snipers shoot faster on 0 ping

or am I imagining it

[near wyvern]

You can even sprint dodge out of their fire with 0 gunner resistance

[hollow jolt]

Its just 2 snipers

[rare storm]

Rip, figured

[clear heath]

Yeah but sometimes they just show up without you expecting it

and i'd rather not die instantly

it's not for chip damage mitigation or approaching them or anything

[ornate hamlet]

I'm gonna sprint dodge out of your fire

[rare storm]

Yeah I know but I always felt like there was a slight delay between the sound cue and the actual shot

[ornate hamlet]

mf

[clear heath]

it's when they pop up similar to a sniper and immediately fuck you up

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah, I feel like the sniper shot is faster there too

[near wyvern]

But you won't die instantly. Do I need to link some proof?

[ornate hamlet]

Wacky

[clear heath]

i want to avoid those situations for the same reason you'd want to avoid a sniper

[rare storm]

But in the vid, it's almost instant

[near wyvern]

If gunner resist would affect shotgunners I would agree but it doesn't

[worthy dune]

Iont plan on using this till the exploit gets fixed but I feel like I should def grab it from Melk right?

[hollow jolt]

Probably to fuck with you

[clear heath]

shotgunners actually haven't been as much of an issue as of late

[still hearth]

The snipers shoot fast if you're on the laser

[glossy ember]

surge

[still hearth]

They just don't move laser very fast

[rare storm]

[clear heath]

if this was on launch, i'd probably agree

but now i hate gunners more than shotgunners

[glossy ember]

Testing with unyielding + maniacs

Tested with carapace + flak last time

done testing

[rare storm]

ahh I guess that would be it ye, since he's purposely tryna get hit

[still hearth]

I don't feel gunners or snipers much

[rare storm]

Why test so much for something that would probably get fixed soon

[still hearth]

It's way more shooters fucking me up if I'm not paying attention

[clear heath]

I only care enough about snipers to not get 2 shot

[rare storm]

unless you're on non ep then my bad

[glossy ember]

Not using EP lmao

[clear heath]

they generally don't hit me much