psyker-class

[bleak tulip]

thats just vitas cosplay

[lucid terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/my-eyes-gif-19334673

[fresh reef]

she's an 8 but if she lets me slap her dome in bed she's a 10

[sonic whale]

Agreed partially that's why I'm going for this headpiece. I do also wish the below the belt cloth was like a skirt all around

[crisp yacht]

can someone explain why i blew up while using a force sword and gaze? i didnt use special. is it blocking while at 100%??

[sonic whale]

Yes

[bleak tulip]

current boring outfit

[rare storm]

Ah I've had this issue before too, yes for some reason with scriers, using the push causes extra perill gain with kinetic deflection

[bleak tulip]

I just really like the eyes poking out from a hood

[remote flower]

Agreed. also, why does the psyker have a green waistband on some of their fits? Is there a lore reason or just a weird artistic choice?

[sonic whale]

Yes as it generates peril instead of stamina maybe?

[remote flower]

https://tenor.com/view/stunned-wow-omg-lego-batman-lego-batman-movie-gif-7647770

[sonic whale]

It's nice

[lucid terrace]

Green is cool

[remote flower]

Can’t argue with that

It looks good on the white fit but, not the red one

[tame venture]

just got force sword on my first outing of using the one i built lol
seems like it's just worse than what i made. should i just grind it for one of the blessings?

[bleak tulip]

ran this one for months

[royal granite]

you should consider removing psychic leeching

[fresh reef]

green robes are common among atropath uniforms, I think

[bleak tulip]

until this
ds good now so I went with the fancy hat

[sonic whale]

Probably another 'highlighter' as Psykers are inherently dangerous asf as if they lose control they can be possed by a daemon and become a daemonhost or even become a chaos spawn iirc

[lucid terrace]

I'm still pissed this costs 1400

[remote flower]

I’ve never liked that hat

[sonic whale]

I never liked the fancy hat too much personally it is cool though

[remote flower]

Call me a hater

[lucid terrace]

I only WANT the hat

[remote flower]

But, yuck

[rare storm]

Fancy hat was the best purchase I've made

[bleak tulip]

also like the veil but

[tame venture]

speaking of hats, i'd literally die for a plain white ogryn cap

[bleak tulip]

this kills it a bit

[fresh reef]

@remote flower https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Wyrdvane_Psyker

[sonic whale]

Yeah I noticed that then just ignored it

[royal granite]

the green sash is just a primaris psyker thing

[lucid terrace]

There used to be a bomber cap that was a light brown for ogryn

Gotta wait for that tho

[royal granite]

or wyrdvane

i guess

[rare storm]

God damn, it is lore accurate

[sonic whale]

They aren't Primaris Psykers

[remote flower]

Just thinking about how funny it would be if fatshark made a host spawn if a psyker kills themselves💀would be awful for gameplay tho

[rare storm]

I've never really gotten into 40k lore, is the rabbit hole huge

[sonic whale]

Yeah it's big lol

Crazy deep

[royal granite]

it's not

it's an ocean miles wide and a foot deep

[remote flower]

You’ll spend hundreds of hours listening to lore on YouTube after a certain point

[rare storm]

I've only roughly read through the space marines, the astartes and some of the templars (??)

[fresh reef]

something something war in heaven, something something mass shaman suicide, birth of the Emperor, horus heresy, et cetera, ten thousand years of betrayal

[bleak tulip]

can recommend luetin, made the lore in this game way more interesting

should be required watching tbh

[sonic whale]

Tbh I would like it as a weakend Daemonhost but you'd have to kick a player out the lobby to take that effect and force the others with 3 players in a 4 player game. I would LOVE it and deal with it but so many people would mald and be very mad about it because they failed to manage their peril. I could see it on Auric only and after like 3 perils or 2 if you want to be cruel

[rare storm]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8RfCCzWsMgNspTI-GTFenQ This guy?

[bleak tulip]

https://youtu.be/VwLoEhgcyzc

[sonic whale]

Reminds me of "It's not a lake, it's an ocean."

[bleak tulip]

just learning about atoma made me appreciate the setting a lot more than basically anybody I play with

[remote flower]

I’m not big into books so my 40k knowledge only goes as far as learning about darktide, the lore behind the inquisition and lex atoma, etc,

[bleak tulip]

which is fair because the game doesnt really go into all this very much sadly

[sonic whale]

Surprised no one is recommending ArchWarhammer, did he do something bad? (other then sounding a little bit like a dick)

[remote flower]

Gonna watch that

[royal granite]

like there's a lot of pretty meaningless stuff in 40k lore but it's very weak on actual substance

[remote flower]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[bleak tulip]

its a cool video and luetin is a good one

[fluid knot]

Egg

[sonic whale]

Hey it takes bricks to make a house

[royal granite]

GW's been baking bricks for 40 years

[lucid terrace]

Big fan of this cosmetic for psyker

[royal granite]

my dream is not for you

[remote flower]

They could make it an option to switch on in a private lobby, people who want a more authentic/intense match

[bleak tulip]

oh yeah this I got a while ago, the hat is currently available

but the chest is a bit buggy

[fluid knot]

I love that outfit

[bleak tulip]

clips into view with some attacks

[fluid knot]

Shame the rope is stiffer than morning wood

[rare storm]

Waiting for the white one....

Fuckin colour variations

[orchid nest]

you probably used the push attack which causes a little peril

[sly charm]

Worth or Cringe

[remote flower]

@sonic whale my whole build causes me to stay at critical peril almost all the time so, an option like that would be so stressful, in the fun way of course

[bleak tulip]

it does wobble in the preview

was that a thing?=

[remote flower]

I’m in love with this

[bleak tulip]

oh while normally running I can see it

[fluid knot]

I dont even know tbh, it just looks like a plastic mock-up when its in the dropship

Needs physics added

[bleak tulip]

lmao

[fluid knot]

Yeah..

[remote flower]

assuming the top and pants are paid cosmetics too?

[royal granite]

it's kind of pretty, looks like very stylized hair kinda

[bleak tulip]

also this happens when you equip it sometimes

[bleak tulip]

yeah it was available as a set a while back

[sonic whale]

Agreed, I'd def like it if they could somehow keep parts of your characters outfit for the Weakened Daemonhost, but I imagine they might not want to get the VA's to do voice lines for it which is fair. Just sounds like extra fun and danger 😆 tbh I'm surprised that there isn't a small peril generation while around the Daemonhost for the Psyker or Voice Lines like their in pain due to the daemons presence so closely in materiumand Immaterium

[fluid knot]

Lool

[remote flower]

Damnn, wish I could have gotten it while it was out

[fluid knot]

Ogg has one like that too, but its a chestpiece that makes the frame picture look like he got ducttape slapped on his mug

[bleak tulip]

im sure itll come back some time

[remote flower]

Make the daemonhost talk somewhat too, maybe but, that is alot of VA work. But, we can dream💀

[crisp yacht]

ah yeah thats what it was. ragers and horde in face so i was trying to create distance. guess ill try to dodge in that situation

[sonic whale]

I really like this mask, especially with Psyker eyecolour and my blind eye but I just wish there was a matching material outfit

[sonic whale]

No I am not Sans from Undertale

Before anyone says

[orchid nest]

yeah the push itself is fine but if you follow through with the push attack and if it hits something it will generate 5ish peril

[crisp yacht]

gotcha

[bleak tulip]

[sonic whale]

Yeah, it's just one of those 'Yo that's neat' neat things

[royal granite]

the mourning veil does kinda go hard

[sonic whale]

I was DoD 😭

[bleak tulip]

sad

[sonic whale]

It is nice although I want another outfit to match it with

[fluid knot]

Oh thats pretty sick tbh

I assume thats not in the game yet tho?

[unique sand]

this one worth the melkbucks or is charge rate too shite

[crisp yacht]

maybe the 1.5 m dockets one? dont have but that comes to mind

[sonic whale]

Also a comparison between the materials

[orchid nest]

using the push attack in this situation is still pretty good though too, just backwards slide and quell first. the push attack range is much further than you would expect, you can bowl them over from like 10m out

[bleak tulip]

yeah I bought it for this

also pretty cool

[sonic whale]

I feel like it's a headpiece for light armour personally

[fluid knot]

I might nick that look if that hat is in store atm

Is good

[royal granite]

in the store now

i don't really have anything to go with it

[sonic whale]

Newest store page for anyone who hasn't been able to look

[crisp yacht]

id say no. take it for the brittleness blessing if anything

or throw warpflurry > terrifying barrage if you want to try it out

[royal granite]

it might look nice with this, can anyone check?

[remote flower]

Literally the best psyker outfit so far

[unique sand]

ahh thanks. prob wont take it then

dont have a ton of melkbucks

[fluid knot]

Oh sick.. i might have to log in then. Fight this flu off for a bit

[orchid nest]

I like the krieg coat with the skull mask helmet, looks pretty cool

[sonic whale]

Kind of

[royal granite]

holy shit why are aquilas so expensive

[fluid knot]

Because money

[unique sand]

Why do you think fatshark is so fat

Like a planetary governer feeding off its people

[sonic whale]

I want to like this one but it just doesn't look good with hair

[royal granite]

i would ironically spend more money on aquilas if they were a little bit cheaper

but this is like, ugh, feels like you get so little for your money

[unique sand]

its made so the most expensive pack is the only one worth it

[sonic whale]

Also a bit goofy, I feel like if you had some metal plate and tubes going into the back of the head this could work. Oh and if it wasn't gold/bronze

[royal granite]

it's not worth it though, it's too much money to spend at once for a game i already paid for

[bleak tulip]

I think there is a silver one of this

[orchid nest]

I got over being lazy and logged in

[sonic whale]

Also for some reason the headpiece on this set (1st image) is on sale the page after. Someone really wants someone to like it

Whoops

Here we go

[frank moat]

Are we drip posting

[sonic whale]

Yeah kind of

Psykers be the drippest mf's around, because that way everyone knows they are the ones to watch for exploding into daemonhosts or spawn

[royal granite]

yeah idk, redemptor veil looks good but i don't think it goes well with any of the other psyker drip rn

[dense bramble]

The pirate hat is sick. The gloriana veil goes best with the unadorned red outfit

[bleak tulip]

I gotta say, I bought this just for the armor

[bleak tulip]

the head is very silly but yeah

[rare storm]

Shit I did too lmao

[sonic whale]

I disagree at least for this one

[dense bramble]

My problem with the games drip is that its too big

Homies are all wearing baby carriers and shit

[royal granite]

oh i mean the red one yeah

[rare storm]

I saw it, I bought it and then made a zealot

[royal granite]

i use that myself

[rare storm]

First time even playing one

[sonic whale]

I love this one (I am the smallest Acolyte on the Morningstar)

[bleak tulip]

zealot is my second most played class I felt fine about it

[bleak tulip]

tiny

[sonic whale]

I only noticed it a few days ago

[orchid nest]

fun sized zealot

[sonic whale]

I am practially what I imagine being 4ft 7" is

[bleak tulip]

stole this vet drip idea from someone esle, fully docket and achievement look

[sonic whale]

Nice

[bleak tulip]

shame I dont like playing vet much

[wheat storm]

guys, do yall see ogryn here too?

[dense bramble]

I want a trans ogryn

[plucky flax]

Smol height make it hard to headshot mobs. 😦

[rare storm]

Why's a plague ogryn in a podcast

[bleak tulip]

did buy these goggles for ogryn

[sonic whale]

Momma don't lie

[dense bramble]

If they wont give us female ogryn give us ogryn in a dress

[wheat storm]

imagine femboy ogryn

💀

[rare storm]

Does it actually

[bleak tulip]

yeah it adjusts your point of view

[rare storm]

Well. God damn lol

[dense bramble]

Cover will really fuck you too

[sonic whale]

I feel like my Vet is tettering on the edge of being a Scab in look at least 😆 very baller imo though

[bleak tulip]

think I went for max height on most classes for that

[hollow jolt]

Ogryn in bikini when?

[fickle scaffold]

ayo its Gorlock the destroyer lmao

[plucky flax]

You can adjust your height with mod though.

[rare storm]

I've been playing on the tiniest psyker

[plucky flax]

[rare storm]

Wouldn't cover be... BETTER

[plucky flax]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/206

[sonic whale]

My smol brethren 😭

[wheat storm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1033536142324285491/1170727530442018897/SPOILER_1t8aIO.gif?ex=655a17fa&is=6547a2fa&hm=53c280ff694ce3b50fb898c3c11685dd05469f4feb9db561989272d810205caf&

[rare storm]

O does this still work

[plucky flax]

I change all my human characters to over 70% height so I can headshot easier.

[dense bramble]

Thats what I thought when making it. It doesnt protect you more and you cant shoot over a lot of it

[rare storm]

I read somewhere that it popped up a bunch of errors

[plucky flax]

Vet is at 100%, I think zealot at 80%, and psyker at 75%.

It works for me.

[rare storm]

A shiii HAHAHHA

[plucky flax]

Also I made my ogryn into smollest.

[frank moat]

Uses the steel material

[rare storm]

my small sibling

[sonic whale]

God damn that's nice, also how did you get the black eyeball?

[dense bramble]

its in settings. Gorilla eyes

[bleak tulip]

I think thats VT unlock?

[rare storm]

It's one of the options to colour the entire eye

[sonic whale]

Gorilla eyes?

Ohh when I saw the Cadian eyecolours I thought it was just the pupil(?) colour

[frank moat]

Black sclera is a VT2 bonus

[sonic whale]

Ahh so if you own VT2 you can do that?

[frank moat]

Yea

[dense bramble]

Gorilla eyes

[sonic whale]

Also all these ones with the red line I want

[bleak tulip]

also unlocks some hair colors and tatoos

[sonic whale]

Might need to pick up VT2 then

[fading charm]

is that a mod or is it all the ones you own?

[frank moat]

Woah gorilla have black eyes

Mod

[fading charm]

mind sharing?

[frank moat]

Can't equip them, only preview

Still want?

[fading charm]

yeh

[royal granite]

my normal drip

[rare storm]

oh I did not know that this was because I owned vt2

LOL

thought everyone had it

[royal granite]

yeah it's a vt2 thing

[plucky flax]

Beta helmet

[bleak tulip]

beyda

[rare storm]

p2w mfkers

[bleak tulip]

pay2drip

[languid osprey]

2 weeks and like 15 orange columnus i finally got fire frency

[rare storm]

I had 20hr game time during the beta

Never touched it till patch 13 lmao

[sonic whale]

Also the new vet armour, the Steel Legion one with this helmet looks to capture their 'ww2 germany/cold war' vibe perfectly. The other helmet makes it look like the artworks

[royal granite]

this is all from penances and the docket cosmetics store

[languid osprey]

feeling good right now

[sonic whale]

I'm curious now as to what you do get from owning VT other then the eyes and tattoo's

[royal granite]

i think that's it

[smoky mulch]

what's the recent thoughts on illisi builds? slaughter and deflector?

[sonic whale]

Is there any examples what the tatoo looks like?

[rare storm]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zt1wxs/vermintide_loyalty_rewards/

[long wharf]

that's what I prefer

[dense bramble]

Theres so many baby carrier wearers in the psyker gang

[languid osprey]

is for the vet to get carried on easily

[sonic whale]

Thanks

[languid osprey]

im a toilet bowl too dont worry

[plucky flax]

If you don't need deflector uncanny slaughterer is good. But I need my deflector crutch so I use it with slaughterer.

[frank moat]

Current loadout with and without recolour mod

[dense bramble]

They really put you in the cone of shame bro

[frank moat]

Thought the rubber gloves were funny

[sonic whale]

Ahh that's the nice one from the intro, I saw that a few weeks back. Honestly I should have gotten the gimp-bong mask 😆 just iconic

[sonic whale]

Did you start uhhh doing something to that Beast of Nurgles back spot? Reach in?

[languid osprey]

for smite build safety

[frank moat]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodborne-gif-23127920

[dense bramble]

I dunno I want gumboots and gloves. We out here in the nurgle hive

[fickle scaffold]

that head piece plus the chest from this weeks set is what im rocking its beautiful imo

[frank moat]

If I could get the rubber texture to apply on boots I totally would have 😩

[languid osprey]

more like a chihuahua with rabies but yea

[languid osprey]

yea me too gold+gold

anyway im over with gun psyker after this long im sure purg will feel like home

[frank moat]

Man I just double checked this and yea it's literally identical

[long wharf]

that's a nice dueling sword

[frank moat]

Right down to the grammatical error fullstop

[fickle scaffold]

give

noww

[long wharf]

Falchion2 blade/body on 2 Handed Power sword 1 grip

[fresh reef]

really wish we had more of these biomancer-esque torso cosmetics available

[royal granite]

wish we had more biomancy in general

[fluid knot]

Shame the upgrade to brainburst didnt just gib the whole enemy ngl

They did it for Surge an Smite

[sonic whale]

Yeah

I like the brainburst just blowing off the head though

Also on the cosmetics talk, I use these legs from that horrible 'batman' like set in the store as I think it looks fitting for a Zealot and with this plate armour

[long wharf]

yikes

I much prefer the armored leggings with that armor top

and this is my new revolver

[sonic whale]

Also a question, what's a good weapon to complete the 'push 7 enemies off a cliff in 2 seconds' as I was using a Powersword when I just tried it 🤦‍♂️ I blew up their brain instead of pushing them

[distant roost]

force sword

[rare storm]

Use venting shriek

[long wharf]

that stock looks really supid when the gun is being held

[sonic whale]

Nice but yucky, I hope we get a revolver that looks like Decker's out of Blade Runner looking at this now though

[cloud heron]

I dont think that actually knocks back anymore. Just staggers

[rare storm]

Fr?

[sonic whale]

The soulblaze will kill them and yeah just staggers now

[rare storm]

Damn that sucks

[rare storm]

I did it with the base venting lol

That’s irrelevant now I guess

[sonic whale]

Toilet bowl?

[long wharf]

never toilet bowl

[sonic whale]

I like this toilet bowl though

[raw idol]

What's up with voidstrike quell speed? The numbers don't match what you'd expect with a [-33.33, +100.00] range.

[distant roost]

isnt quelling a logarithmic thing

[long wharf]

nice, the aim of the revolver is dead-on with that halo sight

[raw idol]

Maybe, first I've heard of it though

[cloud heron]

I actually was just repeating something I'd read previously, but actually looking at it i'm not sure it's true. I dont remember how much distance they got knocked back prior to patch 13 but venting shriek definitely does shove a fair bit

[rare storm]

So venting shriek strat back on the table?

[long wharf]

oh dang, the laser pointer attachment works properly too

this.... could almost be construed as cheating

[distant roost]

found this from a reddit post from a year ago

[rare storm]

Nah, fatshark themselves stated that as long as it stays on the modders client side and not visible to anybody else

They don’t care

Sounds like a weird statement but it’s true

[distant roost]

and tbh the mods used

99% of the time

are just adding visuals to things already in the game

like scoreboard mod is so nice

[bleak tulip]

idk health bars does feel like cheating more often than not

[fluid knot]

Imo that one is cheating

Weapon customization not so much

It doesnt give you any tangible advantages, if you can aim, it doesnt matter if you have irons or a sight. Sure in the real world, it sure as fuck does, not in game

Or rather, not in this game

[spice veldt]

it has multiplicative-inverse scaling ; here's the formula for peril quelled per tick with respect to your starting percentage and quell speed

[distant roost]

yea sounds abt right

basically after a certain point quell speed doesnt add too much benefit

[spice veldt]

other way around

it's at higher quell speeds that it adds more benefit

[distant roost]

yea

ive noticed any

50% staff is meh

but a 60-80 is decent or good

[sonic whale]

Also we have the 'Center dot on screen' which does the same endpoint thing, the laser beam is just a visual at this point

[fickle scaffold]

bro's zealot looking like robocop

[sacred crane]

ok i need to know, should i go lighting or those like homing crystals

[sonic whale]

That is a partial intent 😆 but it'll get closer with this

[sonic whale]

Whichever you want, are you trying to meta out or have fun?

[sacred crane]

having fun, i mean i literally go knife only runs as veteran

[sonic whale]

I personally love Brain Burst, as you pixel hunt for the sniper in the fog and blow his mind with your mind

[idle aurora]

Me too pls, used to have it, reinstalled the game and lost the archive 😦

[sonic whale]

Asail is the meta and annoying personally

[sacred crane]

isnt asial the flying cystals

[sonic whale]

And the Shock one is really good at teamplay as you can stun-lock hordes and specials so they can kill it and manage it

[sonic whale]

Yeah

[distant roost]

yes

[sonic whale]

I really like Psykers like this personally as it's teamplay

[sonic whale]

This look like a Judge outta Judge Dredd?

[sacred crane]

im a level 4 psyker and i already bought the krieg outfit since i like krieg

[frank moat]

Speaking of Judge Dredd

[sonic whale]

Nice, don't let anyone stop you having fun

[frank moat]

Arbites cosplay I did for someone but never posted

[sonic whale]

NICE that's cool asf

[long wharf]

that's Judge Inquisitor Dredd

[sonic whale]

I want an Enforcer or Arbite outfit as I have the Psyker voice who used to be an Enforcer

[sacred crane]

whenever i see this outfit, i keep thinking of him

[sonic whale]

I never played the game

[sacred crane]

good game, should get maybe

i also wanna know some good psyker weapons...when i unlock them

[sonic whale]

All of them are good but the Flame one and Shock one's work well with builds wrapped around them iirc, voidstrike is my personal go-to but the first one is nice although the radius can feel so bad at low level

[sonic whale]

🙏

I would love it, but I could see it in like some kind of 'back story' cinimatic or something for each Voice

[long wharf]

those are hidden cosmetics, right?

[sacred crane]

i just realized, why have you been playing darktide for 8 hours

[frank moat]

Only gear that only appears in Fashion Randomizer and not Check All Cosmetics afaik

[sacred crane]

[sonic whale]

I have today off work, enjoy the game and most of the time alt-tab and talk in discord 😆

[frank moat]

Though honestly I wouldn’t get your hopes up, it’s probably not for us siblings 😔

[sonic whale]

You'd also laugh at the total of my hours, I got this game on the 14th of October

I'm also in the 5% 🙏

[sonic whale]

Yeah sadly, it's a shame that it's for the Veteran although I get it. A lighter armour version for the Psyker would be nice with some kind of intresting Psykic hood

[frank moat]

One can hope

I do think it would be neat as an all-class themed week like with Krieg

[idle aurora]

There is a bunch of cosmetics that are clearly made for penances and ordo shop recolours, idk why they didn't drop them with class update

[sonic whale]

I have to admit I kind of want to see a small cinematic showing for each of our rejects (maybe depending on voice) what their life was like before being convicted

[sonic whale]

Hopefully it will come with whatever is coming with this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9QXd7WT2yk

[frank moat]

denim robbers

[sonic whale]

Idk why people are thinking Genestealers are coming from the previous transmission considering we know there are hounds for the Dregs and they've already killed a lot of the populace of the hive acording to previous logs

[fluid knot]

This 'un sounds like a new mission

[river stirrup]

the headhunter feels rly nice now or is it just me ?

[idle aurora]

pls no escorts

[sonic whale]

One note someone said was that the VA for Wormwood is the same as the Daemonhost one, but I don't agree that she's became a Daemonhost as the daemonhost has a male body I think

[fluid knot]

Yeah.. think we're all hoping it doesnt involve babysitting a bot

[sonic whale]

No carry them because they're injured

[frank moat]

I think there’s a bunch of new voicelines regarding Gene Stealers and a ‘shadow in the warp’ which is apparently a thing

[idle aurora]

Can't start a mission if no oggy is on the team

[frank moat]

I lack the lore knowledge to back anything up

[fluid knot]

I guess we find out in the next patch

[sonic whale]

[frank moat]

Plus an unhealthy dose of copium ofc

[sonic whale]

Coddles the injured as they shoot things with a laspistol in the Ogryns arms

[fluid knot]

As an Ogryn player i resent having to carry a lifeless corpse instead of beating heretics into a bloody pulp

[sonic whale]

The 'Xenos in lower levels detected, auric...' one has been in for a while I think

[sonic whale]

What happened to PROTECT THE LITTLE UN'S? Or did you choose the 2nd voice for the Ogryn the "I don't like being told what to do!" one

[idle aurora]

Probably closer to 30th, atleast feels logical for a anniversary

[sonic whale]

I went with the "Yes sah" voice

[fluid knot]

If they can't protect themselves, they aint worth protecting

But no i picked Brawler because he has an unhealthy obsession with food

relatable

[long zodiac]

is t3 warp nexus desireable for purgatus

[frank moat]

I was thinking of a Vet/Zealot convo about Morrow fighting them in the past, but looking into it both that and the shadow in the warp lines are both old

[spare sail]

That’s the crit chance right?

[long zodiac]

yes

[trim garnet]

:D

[fluid knot]

Ideally you want T4, but T3 works well enough

[spare sail]

Yeah it’s good

Tier 4 obviously better but tier 3 is solid

[long zodiac]

cool

[fluid knot]

There is also a few about a "second hive city" that noone wants to talk about

If anything, sounds like a DLC hint

[restive slate]

I rather sevond hive city be Darktides equivalent to Chaos Wastes

[remote flower]

they made those voicelines in hint at a dlc someday, 100%

[sonic whale]

I live by the "It's like momma said: If there's a bully, it's an Ogryn's job to stop em."

[bleak tulip]

inb4 second hive city is this game chaos wastes

[sonic whale]

Gotta protect the little un's otherwise you'll be having them not waking up when they go to sleep

[fluid knot]

Its not unlikely, but sadly we dont know yet

[fluid knot]

After having to drag hundreds of potato bags through A.Maelstrom these last few months, if they're on their ass more than they're up dealing damage i aint gonna expend the resources to keep them on their feet

[somber girder]

ive heard some things about genestealer cults

[long zodiac]

👖

[frank moat]

I play a Brawler myself, but gotta say matchmaking with 3 random Bodyguard Ogryn as my Psyker was an enlightening experience

[sonic whale]

There's been nothing about Genestealer Cults, just speculation that they might be

[frank moat]

I’m an honourary Ogryn now

[somber girder]

as I said, heard :)

no clue to any details of anything XD

just came back to the game

[sonic whale]

In the words of an Ogryn "I'z heard we'll be fighting genestealers...I made sure my belt was tight when we was fightin'."

[restive slate]

I wouldn't get your hopes up

[fluid knot]

Like the only class the Bully doesnt despise

[orchid shadow]

I know zilch about 40k lore, but I saw this recently and it was intriguing. https://youtu.be/rufYr6u-zZE?si=CW9m8bkUfacmvddN

[bleak tulip]

sure fuckin hope not

nids are boring

[restive slate]

In the second last vox, the last thing we heard from Wyrmwood was a dark entity slipping between shadows hunting her down. Everyone was quick to speculate a genestealer.

It's more than likely that she got possessed by a daemon and became a daemonhost. Truly a grimdark ending

[sonic whale]

I think it's just jumping on the rumor train

Like there could be anything down there

[long crystal]

nids lore wise wouldnt really make sense on a planet that has chaos dont nids cancel out a lot of warp things

[sonic whale]

Just because we heard the line about the 'Sky Reavers' which is a common term for Dark Eldar raiding scouting parties it could mean we get Dark Elder.
It means nothing till we get told otherwise, although speculation is not bad

[restive slate]

I rather have Water Cult Gangers as a 3rd faction fighting the Moebians or something when we arrive

[sonic whale]

Also if it was a Genestealer Cult we'd be very fucked as that would be like 60% of the hive

[restive slate]

In the end, what matters is what does FatShark have access to in terms of IP?

[sonic whale]

The Water Gangers were killed by the Cult of Admission (Dregs)

The Cult is like a uprising of the people faction, so if you're for them you weren't killed

But probably became a poxwalker

[restive slate]

100%?

[sonic whale]

99%

Also

We can literally see their dead decaying bodies on the investigation level for the 'New Strain'

[restive slate]

Cause it'd be more interesting and dynamic to have enemies fight each other

[bleak tulip]

its mentioned the water cartel is basically dead

[restive slate]

That's boring sadge

[bleak tulip]

like entirely

[sonic whale]

Well they like literally have no chance against the Chaos cult and Traitor Guard what were you expecting

[restive slate]

All the exposition and no insight for substance

Like our mission providers, all talk but no action

[sonic whale]

Gangers are normally left to be because the resources of an entire regiment would be required to get rid of them, and even then in the power vacum someone else would take over. Hense why they are dead asf when the Moebian 6th join the Cult of Admonision

[obsidian girder]

hi chat
am a vet main so i have no idea how new psyker works
what blitz and aura would be the best to pair with trauma staff and telekine shield?

[restive slate]

Just a small hint like we see a fight going on in the distance or npcs firing from their entrenched positions would ve nice

[restive slate]

What you're comfortable with tbh, many go for assail to carry them to level 30

[obsidian girder]

hrm, already at 30 so not too much an issue

fair enough tho

[restive slate]

Nice

[sonic whale]

Whichever you like the most. Most Veterans like Asail as they can be braindead but I personally recomend Smite (Lightning) or Brain Burst as it's more enjoyable for the rest fo the team BUT don't let me stop you

[obsidian girder]

i see, thanks for tip :)

[restive slate]

Trauma is close range and shield is defensive so unless youre gonna spam lmb staff bolts, you could use Assail or Brain Rupture for longer range

[obsidian girder]

actually, think im gonna go assail because otherwise i have shitall for ranged

[restive slate]

Also try Gun Psyker, feels like Vet but with MAGIC

[obsidian girder]

it do look fun, and i have a neat laspistol already on psyker

no wait its a revolver

its been a while since ive played my psyker if you cant tell

[severe folio]

no reason to pick smite if you are using trauma staff

[obsidian girder]

what's the best aura?

[severe folio]

you go with either BB or assail for longest range option

and depend on if you picking BB or Assail

[sonic whale]

A staff will serve you greater in my opinion, as it's free ammo and you can become a Warp Powered Machine-gun

[severe folio]

youll notice you dont have a lot of aura option

[sonic whale]

Yeah BB lets you pixel hunt and kill the sniper 50m away in fog

[severe folio]

if you pick Bb you go with the left aura, Assail you go with the tight aura

[obsidian girder]

aight

what's the middle one do

[severe folio]

also trauma is not just a close range staff it can hits from far away too

[sonic whale]

As soon as the left click grabs a target It. Will. Not. Let. Go. Until it hits

[severe folio]

the middle one reduce ability cooldown

[lethal lagoon]

Ehhh, you only get right aura for assail if you are doing hand cannon bug, otherwise warp DR isn't worth missing.

[obsidian girder]

yea i remember old brain burst

id use it but as this is literally my first time picking up psyker since the update id like to try something new lol

so assail it is

[severe folio]

if you pick assail then perhaps you should pick the crit aura

[spice veldt]

the crit aura is convenient if you decide to path into malefic instead of mind in motion

beyond that, the auras are whatever so just pick whatever is convenient for your path

[sonic whale]

It's a good abblity currently, not crazy like Asail or Smite but the abblity to one tab anything other then Ogryns, Muties and Monsters on any difficulty is really good. You basically use it to be the Specialist hunter for Elites that the Veteran isn't shooting or can't shoot

At least that's how I use it

[obsidian girder]

checks out

what keystone, then?

[sonic whale]

I go for the left one

But many go for the middle

[severe folio]

keystone generally the left one

the middle will only benefit your assail

[obsidian girder]

but left benefits all?

[severe folio]

but if youre planning to spam your assail, then your trauma which is suppose to serve the horde isnt going to do a lot

[sonic whale]

I should try out BB with it tbh sometime

[severe folio]

left benefits abilities, all form of damage, peril reduction

[sonic whale]

Warp charges iirc increase damage of your warp attacks the more you have

[severe folio]

the right one will def do not benefit you a lot since its weakspot benefits

[sonic whale]

And with the Venting Shriek it does something that I forgot

[severe folio]

it reduces abilities cooldown

and vent shriek have a secondary ability cooldown which stack with warp siph

[obsidian girder]

alright, just threw together a skill tree and ill give it a spin now
thanks guys

[queen fog]

hit things with shriek u get moar peril gain reduction

[obsidian girder]

also i couldve sworn i had something other than sustained fire on my trauma.

did they swap out some blessings?

[sonic whale]

Maybe? I've only played for 21 days

Oh yeah!

Shield is great at all times, the bubble one is great when you have too many shooting enemies and helps everyone in the team

The mini ones sound nice but I've not tried them,

[severe folio]

trauma has a lot of peril build up

[sonic whale]

Oh yeah and I've been told that this node is a MUST but idk @obsidian girder

[severe folio]

so you would want either shield or vent shriek

[severe folio]

yeah

[sonic whale]

Vent Shriek is a great one for getting rid of dangerous amounts of peril or as a "Oh shit, THE DAEMONS AARRGHH! Vents I am so fine now, lets get to killing!"

[sacred crane]

Overall, what would yall consider like the best dueling sword

[severe folio]

mk4

hardest hitter

[sonic whale]

I never use them as I love my Force Sword Aesthetic

Being able to block bullets too is really good

[sacred crane]

Aight back to grinding psyker

[sonic whale]

Trying to get Deflector IV so I can change it out on this sword as it's otherwise perfect to me

[drifting patrol]

hey, so is there like a build advice thread or something here

[sacred crane]

a sword that blocks bullets, how main character-like

[sonic whale]

Yes!

[drifting patrol]

looking to get some theorycrafting done

[sonic whale]

Although how useful it is, is a good question

[robust sierra]

Hey guys, the stats are shit on this but is it worth 2765 melk coins for warp nexus 4?

[sonic whale]

I just like being able to stop a gunner from lasering me to death

[crude cape]

which is the good recon lasgun for gun psyker

[sonic whale]

I'd say yeah if you don't have it already

[sonic whale]

I think the 2nd version that you unlock

[robust sierra]

okay, thanks

[sonic whale]

The 'Ha ha no recoil go brr'

[robust sierra]

what blessings should I use on the surge staff other than warp nexus anyways?

[sonic whale]

This is my Staff, I like blazing Spirit

[harsh urchin]

Need more crit

[crude cape]

ok, you sure? haha

[sonic whale]

As tieing it with this and this is strong to me at least

[drifting patrol]

how funny is high peril scrier's

[sonic whale]

Haha, this one haha

[sonic whale]

Never tried it because Scriers just doesn't seem very strong compared to the others

[drifting patrol]

the uptime can be insane with peril management, i get it to last minutes with my exorcist swords and quell on kill

[spice veldt]

it's has a niche for finesse weapons because of the crit chance

[drifting patrol]

yeah, using the illisi

and quickdraw

[spice veldt]

e.g., columnus with 4-shot crit strings and good finesse multipliers

which leads to a sequence of 1-2 normal shots and 4 crit shots since you can attain 42.5% crit chance

[sonic whale]

I would try it maybe, also feel like you should have burning blue eyes when it's active with a blue halo like effect around your head for flavor-visuals

Kind of like Vermintides Flame Witch

[drifting patrol]

you already get a vfx with scrier, the constant wailing of the warp

[sonic whale]

I was meaning external

For the other players to see

[severe folio]

it will only be available on your surge staff so remember that

[sonic whale]

Similar to this but without the perils

[drifting patrol]

but it's uusally no issue getting 30 stack to last a while

[sonic whale]

Oh yo look it's that neck piece

[severe folio]

i believe pinned

[severe folio]

who is this

[severe folio]

wait those are real pieces

[sonic whale]

No idea but we have the neckwear in the shop

Yes on table top

[severe folio]

huh

[severe folio]

so theyre from real characters

[sonic whale]

No

[severe folio]

wait the pieces have name

[sonic whale]

Do they?

[severe folio]

perhaps can trace down who worn it

yeah check their descriptions

[sonic whale]

This is the 'new' Primaris psyker model iirc

[severe folio]

pretty sure this guy has a name

[severe folio]

does he blow fire

[sonic whale]

He comes with a rouge trader set I think

[severe folio]

because thats a rifthaven staff

[severe folio]

no he came with the set before the rogue, hes gone now

[severe folio]

woulda use his helm if it cover entirely

[sonic whale]

https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/astra-militarum-primaris-psyker-2023
Yeah see this is the Primaris new one

[severe folio]

i see

so its a recent

[sonic whale]

Hmm no idea then BUT the Astropath of the Morningstar has the same helmet and outfit which we can buy in game

[severe folio]

you think its inspired from the one in darktide ?

or it exist before darktide

[severe folio]

ah its thr astropath helm

[zinc tartan]

Did anyone recommend a build for you? I too am trying to get this penance and its annoying.

[sonic whale]

Ahhh so this is where these characters are from

[mild iron]

nope

my best guess is a purg build

since the soulblaze perk keeps the charges up easier

probably stay at 4 charges...which is lame

[trim garnet]

notable thing about this, its always 10% and then you get an extra 1% damage per 10% peril i think?

[sonic whale]

Also I thought you had Elster from Signalis as your profile picture for a moment 😆 cool profile pic

[sonic whale]

Unknown but any percent is good right?

Tie that with Shirek and it's good

[trim garnet]

point being that its a damage boost even if you're at 0% peril

very handy

[sonic whale]

Also god damn if only we could make our psykers as creepy as this

She even gets a model with the Collector's Ed of Rouge Trader

@severe folio https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/Warhammer-Quest-Blackstone-Fortress-2018-eng
From the Blackstone Fortress Table top game

[somber girder]

oh shit didn't know about this perk might have to get a froce sword now xD

is there a difference in the alt attack in between the two?

[sonic whale]

Also damn the Daemonhosts in control

[sonic whale]

Alt attack is still charge up the sword

[severe folio]

gyat

[sonic whale]

Tbh I haven't tested them enough to notice

[old citrus]

purgatus BiS?

[obsidian girder]

back from that test run
assail feels so...strange to use after using guns

[severe folio]

thanks

[obsidian girder]

theres zero weight at all

[robust sierra]

you think it's not worth it?

[severe folio]

i think it’s worth

every psykers use every staves

[somber girder]

I got bored of using it because it felt like it was too good kinda xD

[severe folio]

so having every blessing on every staves are end goal

[sonic whale]

@severe folio
Espern Locarno, Imperial Navigator is the models name acording to this https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2018/11/40k-meet-the-explorers-of-blackstone-fortress.html#:~:text=40K%3A Meet The Explorers Of Blackstone Fortress 1,... 8 Rien %26 Raus%2C Ratling Twins

Sorry for the pings bytw

[severe folio]

i seee

so he really is an astropath

[robust sierra]

alr thanks

[sonic whale]

Also

I just find it neat to see this

[severe folio]

yes

armor too

same look

[sonic whale]

Oh yeah, just noticed the aquila on the shoulder

Nice

[severe folio]

flaming eviscerator would baller

[fresh reef]

Is there literally any reason to take Warp Rupture over Creeping Flames?

[sonic whale]

I'll throw this to the Zealots to see

[severe folio]

if you hate yourself

[severe folio]

ngl having these aesthetic and not giving these face to darktide is a massive L

[sonic whale]

Right I'm gonna be honest, I am down bad for Psykers, and really want more of the freakish unnatural looks to our characters

Give us skin with white and red blood vessels like the Astropath

And tubes going to the head like that unsanctioned Psyker

[winter magnet]

what guns do people tend to use for gun psyker?

[somber girder]

staffs mostly I belive

or from what ive seen

[winter magnet]

:(

[somber girder]

gun specifically?

[winter magnet]

yes

[sonic whale]

No idea as I personally dislike Gun Psyker as you're draining more ammo and you can have free ammo in the terms of the staff and ALSO you have NODES which BOOST your warp attacks (This includes staffs)

[somber girder]

ah no clue xD never seen them in my 30 games as psyker

[winter magnet]

ok yes I get it most people prefer staff psyker. ive played a fuck ton of staff psyker

I want to know about guns

[somber girder]

not to mention in higher level missions ammo do be quite appreciated for your friendly neighbourhood ogryns

[winter magnet]

I dont want to know the drawbacks I understand them

[somber girder]

ive seen some shredder autoguns or whatever they are callled

but that was while ago, so don't know if they've changed anything for them

[winter magnet]

I want to shoot a gun as a psyker and see if it's fun. I dont give 2 shits about meta

thanks

[sonic whale]

We're not going on about meta, calm your tits and maybe we'll be helpful. No need to be an asshole

But yeah I'd say the Autoguns are pretty good for it

[winter magnet]

nah, no one tried answering my question, they just kept talking about the disadvantages for guns

[orchid shadow]

Laspistol and Columnus MkV I think are the current Psyker guns, but you'd have to ask someone with better gunker knowledge. Shredder was the gun of choice way back, but not anymore.

[winter magnet]

ok thank you simon and lego

[sonic whale]

It's because we just wanted to lay bear some advice before you as we do not know you, nor how knowledgeable you are with Psyker

[winter magnet]

yea, I was rude. my bad

[sonic whale]

It's ok

I can't remember which I'd recomend but the 'Headhunters' are burst fire iirc and the other one is a full auto slap-a-rino with fire rate

I'd say try the 2nd weapon for fun

[long coyote]

People tend to play Las Pistol, Revolver, MK III Headhunter, Columnus INf Autogun

[orchid shadow]

Oh yeah, revolver, forgot about that one.

[winter magnet]

why is reolver good on it?

just cause revolver is by default good?

[queen fog]

revolver is good damage wise, gaze likes damage

like many abilities

[long coyote]

Dumb interactions with assail and huge crits on crushers

[ionic sorrel]

Revolver is nice when I need to delete a bunch of ragers in my face.

[fierce crest]

Or ragers in someone else's face

Or crushers

Or snipers

Or bombers

[harsh urchin]

Laspistol, revolvers, vraks3 and columnus has decent synergy with psyker

But most guns are just better with vet

Revolver is good due to it being an overall good weapon and also hand cannon

[winter magnet]

word

[harsh urchin]

There is a bug which essentially allows you to do a shitload more damage with melee and assail

[spice veldt]

columnus is also good through the power of 4-shot crit strings and 42.5% crit chance (with scrier's)

[winter magnet]

yo look what milkman has for me

kinda sadge on the damage roll but still pretty good

[steel flame]

Truly mommy melkers is a saint

[harsh urchin]

Its ok just dumpstat dmg

[potent echo]

Mommy melkers

[dense bramble]

The whole genestealer thing is wishful thinking or a psyop

[dense bramble]

Semi auto is where it should have been

Feels good man

[sonic whale]

Truely. The Veteran has been speaking too much about their past fighting, we must keep with the task at hand of eliminating the heretics and daemons in Tertium

🙏

[raw idol]

Is fatshark about to let me down?

[harsh urchin]

Yep

[dense bramble]

JUST DO IT

[harsh urchin]

That's actually pretty good

Reroll both perks and it's def solid

[paper gate]

might be a stupid question, but does reality anchor work on scrier's gaze?

[raw idol]

will do

[tame venture]

i got these two swords off of mission drops, how do they fare?

[harsh urchin]

I didnt click the pics, but Mission drops will nearly always be terrible

The way you get good weapons is buying them from brunts with ordos

And then upgrading them at the forge

[tame venture]

oh the force sword isn't as good as what i already have

which of the blessings are worth grinding up for?

[harsh urchin]

Theres a guide in the pins that covers that

But generally the ones that make you do more damage

[tame venture]

just wanted to bounce a question

[bleak tulip]

that's a very comfy stick

I really do miss having transfer sometimes

[brazen warren]

it does, but generally you want to be able to end SG faster rather than extending it out dependent on the engagement

so that you can use your blitz without blowing your head off when you need it

[ancient thicket]

thoughts on this?

Aside from lvl 4 blessings ofc I am very happy

[atomic zephyr]

was stamina the beetter perk?

the pene is a bit low for my taste. kind of what the weapon needs

[paper gate]

fair, i've been running the middle keystone for free brain burster casts in case i need it, actually been really fun

[strong gulch]

Did some VT2 tonight. It is hard to go back to that game now. It even hurts my hands more.

[harsh urchin]

i cant really play vt2 anymore lol

i think the worldbuilding and character building is better in that game

due to the characters actually having personalities

but almost every other aspect of gameplay is worse than dt

and i'm willing to overlook the less good worldbuilding in exchange for being able to play whatever class i want rather than be locked into something other people aren't playing

[fluid knot]

As you would kinda expect as the tech powering the game has improved

[severe folio]

sharfark

[harsh urchin]

and despite all the anger people have towards the crafting in dt

i think the crafting in dt, although it's kinda shit, is much better than vt lol

[severe folio]

if this is better than vt its not making me feel relieved at all it just makes me concerned what the hell did vt do

[harsh urchin]

vt just has no system at all lol

[severe folio]

wel then how is that comparable

[harsh urchin]

every weapon runs swift slaying + ammo scrounger

[severe folio]

thats

thats not the same situation at all

[harsh urchin]

so there's no weapon progression, you literally just buy it, upgrade it to orange, roll the blessing to the right one and you're done

[frail sand]

i has a question, how do u deal with hoardes as surge psyker?

[harsh urchin]

forever

[north pike]

Left or right ?

[severe folio]

and even then i really dont like having to pick between “well im under the well infested with cockroach but at least im not inside those vietnamese war tunnels”

[harsh urchin]

melee generally

[severe folio]

you use your melee or your blitz

or maybe

vent shriek

idk, some people said vent shriek is enough to deal with horde like they gonna vent shriek 6 time onto it

[harsh urchin]

the thing is that people are mad that dt system requires a lot of grinding to get perfect weapons

which makes sense

it is pretty grindy

but then they bring up the vt2 system, and it's like... ok... well there just isn't a system there for weapon progression at all

[cyan notch]

feel like ur complaining about itemisation rather than crafting

[severe folio]

well fuk them boomers who brought up vt2

im not playing vt2, im playing darktide

[harsh urchin]

I do think dt system could use some improvements though

[severe folio]

and i think while it’s understandable that a high quality weapon comes with time. Time spent on RNG is a Horrible decision

if this is time spent in, adjusting the stats on the weapons, that is logical

[harsh urchin]

having a way to more deterministically progress your weapons, even if it's more expensive

[strong gulch]

I hoping we get reds.

[severe folio]

exactly

[harsh urchin]

such as being able to upgrade a t3 blessing to t4 for an expensive rate

for being able to push a weapon from 75 roll to 80 roll for very expensive amounts

i think that would make the game better

[severe folio]

well the tier upgrade

i think someone said they have future plan on that

on merging 2 same tier to make an upgrade to next tier

[harsh urchin]

because then you would be able to decide right, whether you wanted to spend a lot of resources on upgrading

[long wharf]

no, that was an old idea

[harsh urchin]

vs trying to roll a better base

[long wharf]

this is what Fatshark first said they were going to do, then abandoned the idea

[fluid knot]

Hopefully not until they fix current crafting

[severe folio]

fukin unbelievable

[harsh urchin]

the current system is not great; but it's much better than vt2 system at least lmao

[fluid knot]

I am absolutely not bricking weapons ive spent months gathering just by putting them through an additional layer of RNG

[long wharf]

you won't have to - if we get red weapons, they'll have to be newly found

[severe folio]

a weapon going through 3 layers of rng is just not crafting at all

crafting is when you tinker with the weapon attributes, 80% of the work on the weapons is just rolling for the right one

if theres a crafting idea in the game, its the 20% where you slot in mandatory flaniac and blessing on the weapons

[fluid knot]

Highly dependent on the implementation

If they decide you gotta roll your old shit at Hadron up one more tier (which would fit in line with the way they've gone about crafting so far) it would be giga-fucked

[severe folio]

if they keep implementing a roll to band aid their bs

[fluid knot]

Way i see it, either build a whole new system, or simply remove the locks. The latter is the worst option because everything still revolves around RNG, the prior gives them actual options to make it worthwhile content

[severe folio]

they need a new system

to begin with they just need something to tamper with the base stat

[harsh urchin]

yar

[severe folio]

and then

perhaps something to combine two weapons together

and picking between their perks and blessings

[harsh urchin]

at the very least

i do think that's what they're working on

[fluid knot]

I'd like them to go back to the attachments effecting modifiers idea that was menna have been the case initially

[harsh urchin]

now that they've finished the class rework

[severe folio]

they better be

[fluid knot]

Yeah its not unlikely, Dis is probably right

They know full well its the aspect of the game players have the biggest bugbears about

[jaunty tiger]

Sac weapons to raise base stats by a certain amount if the sacrificed weapon is higher

I fixed it

Still needs grinding and rng

[harsh urchin]

i dont think sac weapons is needed lol

[fluid knot]

Many people even fully stopped playing way back when because the RNG was so egregious

[harsh urchin]

there just needs to be a way

on progression

[jaunty tiger]

But you can get your max 80s eventually

[harsh urchin]

that's slower than getting lucky with rng

but can get you there eventually

[severe folio]

unlikely

[harsh urchin]

even if it's really really expensive

and slow

[jaunty tiger]

If you had a to sac weapons?

[harsh urchin]

at least it's guaranteed progression

[jaunty tiger]

I think you'd get there eventually

Just slowly

[fluid knot]

"Eventually" being when Brunts eventually shits out a 380 after 133million dockets

not ideal

[jaunty tiger]

It's a compromise

[severe folio]

i dont want compromise

[jaunty tiger]

They're not going to remove rng gear treadmill

[harsh urchin]

but the other issue is that they can't release the crafting rework without a big content update

[jaunty tiger]

If they were, they would have done it

[harsh urchin]

because the game is simply too easy at this point

it needs to come with content that's harder

so you powercreep the players

while at the same time, making more harder content to do

[jaunty tiger]

Also I think you misunderstand, it doesn't overwrite the base stats in my ide@

[fluid knot]

Doubt it, this game was rushed an they were scrambling to get the initial PC release and of late, the console release out. Hence why only now are we starting to see substantial changes

[jaunty tiger]

The sacrificed weapon just gives you a small bump in every category it's higher in

[severe folio]

the fact that a better crafting system would powercreep thr player is kind of bonker

[jaunty tiger]

It's not hard to roll 80 in a single category at brunts

[fluid knot]

I dont think it would tbh, we already know about most, if not all the power combos an setups already, simply making everything more accessible might raise the power level of the playerbase at large, but it wouldnt effect anyone already playing in Damnation+ thats for sure

[severe folio]

so it is not necessary to have harder content accompanied

[fluid knot]

Most of us already have stuff so good its borderline impossible to improve, even if thats cost us loads of time

Imo, no

Make the system worthwhile first, and then add harder content anyway

[harsh urchin]

disagree

[severe folio]

the time interval between a worthwhile system and harder content has to be extremely minimal

[harsh urchin]

yes you need the harder content to incentivize the players to interact with the system

[fluid knot]

If the system is dogshit anyway, noone is gonna want to engage with it, and thusly any harder content becomes kinda meaningless to the playerbase at large, only the 1% will actually be playing it

[harsh urchin]

this isnt true lol

if the game is good the players will interact with it anyways

see: darktide

[severe folio]

if the system is worthwhile but the content are still trivial, it will still make it lackluster to engage in anything anyway

[harsh urchin]

see: WoW when they added those corrupted wepaons

[severe folio]

sure you will be pleased to have the dream equipment but you wont have any motivation to usebit

[fluid knot]

Yes, but also no, if the majority are playing Malice + Heresy, what makes you think they're gonna play in Exterminatus (a spitball name) for example when its significantly harder than what they can do already

Can polish the crafting all you like, if players havent got the skill to do harder content, then they aint gonna do it

[harsh urchin]

wdym lol

there's plenty of players doing auric damnations

[severe folio]

To begin with, what matter isnt whether the players actually have the skill to do hard content or not. Its whether they are motivated to go into the hard contents or not

[harsh urchin]

the majority of players are doing 3s and 4s simply due to the casual playerbase

[fluid knot]

Oh for sure, but its not the playerbase at large

[harsh urchin]

this

[fluid knot]

Just a relatively small percentage of it

[harsh urchin]

if they want to try to get a red weapon for example

and they can get a better chance to farm it

doing 5s

instead of 4s

they might head into 5s to try to get it

[fluid knot]

Might sure, but also might not

[harsh urchin]

sure they might get their ass kicked, and some people might leave; but it's that incentive

that's necessary

it's like how in MMORPGs raids NEED to drop good loot

otherwise nobody is going to do them

[severe folio]

in any games, you just cannot monitor the player’s expertise in a contents. You cannot estimate base on players skills, you can only estimate base on their motivation to involve themselves into the contents

[harsh urchin]

nobody is just gonna do something for "fun"

if there's no reward

[fluid knot]

That implies you're playing DT for the loot chase and man i highly doubt many are actually doing that

[severe folio]

but that’s exactly what thr majority are doing for

[harsh urchin]

yaaa

[severe folio]

theyre playing for the loot chase, because they need to make their weapons

[cyan notch]

a lot of people played vt2 for the game

[severe folio]

making the weapons is part of the loot chase lol

[cyan notch]

they already have their perfect weapons

[severe folio]

not because there isnt a lot of way to tamper with their weapons is it ?

[harsh urchin]

ye and me and a bunch of those people play dt now

[fluid knot]

I dont think they are personally, i would wager the majority jump on for a few games and beers with thier pals for a couple hours an then go do other shit. Anything they get out of that is just a bonus

[cyan notch]

im just talking about the part where u said nobody is just gonna do something for "fun" if there's no reward

[severe folio]

that is what happen when your game has no objective, when your loots are easily acquired and there is no hard content to followup, that is what happen to those who already got their god tier weapons

and i would wager that is not the majority

there would be a lot, but not majority

[harsh urchin]

i mean yeah that's why i dont play vt2 anymore LOL

[fluid knot]

Not at all, a lot of the Damnation+ people are in it for the gameplay, not the crafting or the loot chase, its just a happy/unhappy byproduct of an already fun game

[harsh urchin]

i used to play it to try to "get good" or to "beat cata" not "for fun"

[fluid knot]

Regardless, Crafting needs TLC fuckin yesterday, because when you do engage with it, man that system is dogwater

[severe folio]

a lot of them, but i have not seen anyone here that recommend damnation for fun unless its for more plasteel

[long wharf]

correction - you did play "for fun", but for you, fun = getting good and beating cataclysm

[severe folio]

actually, if its for fun, its usually heresy that is recommended

[long wharf]

that's the thing about "fun" - it's entirely subjective

[cyan notch]

u dont play vt2 anymore because theres no reward?

[harsh urchin]

yep

[fluid knot]

we're always talking about having fun in Damnation in Oggy chat (when we're not salty about having to drag a bag of potatoes halfway across tertium)

[severe folio]

that’s probably because orgyn

[harsh urchin]

I've beaten the game on the hardest difficulty and I find darktide more challenging

and better gameplay

[cyan notch]

well ur a minority then

[fluid knot]

Uhhh.. how does that makes sense? Ogg has some standout kit at the moment, but its not any more an easy time than knowing any other class well

[severe folio]

idk, why did you brought up oggy then

[fluid knot]

That the people in that chat quite often use the context of fun in Damnation a lot?

[severe folio]

yeah

i dont often see that in zeal, vet or psyker

[cyan notch]

that has nothing to do with whether theses a reward or not though u just find dt more challenging

[severe folio]

so maybe thats just orgyn

[harsh urchin]

huh lol it absolutely does

i get plasteel from playing darktide

[fluid knot]

dont tell noone i told you this, but its because Ogg chat is mostly comprised of well adjusted adults and not teenagers who get mad over the internet when someone disagrees with them

[severe folio]

i can see why i often found my game most miserable with orgyn around now

because they are so fucking idiot

[fluid knot]

I believe the word you're looking for is "old"

[severe folio]

well i dont need well adjusted adult if they cannot play a game

[fluid knot]

I see my facetiousness was entirely lost upon you here

[spice veldt]

seems like an easy time since josho will twice outdamage me on ogryn + kickback than any other build

[severe folio]

i dont have the whole day to spent 50 minutes in damnation just because someone cannot shoot a gunner

and then wipe anyway

[trim garnet]

every time i read kickback in the context of the ogryn gun i think of the csm opening

[fluid knot]

Thats because of two very borken interactions, which is soon gonna be fixed (we hope) not like Psyker dont have highly broken shit aswell in this patch tho

[spice veldt]

yes

I have never said that psyker doesn't

and you can read up on my past messages to see me ranting about stuff needing to be nerfed

but ogryn's stuff is offensively higher than psyker's

[trim garnet]

so like if you arent taking a soublaze setup do you take any of the shriek upgrades

[cyan notch]

even so there are plenty of people who do not think like that

[spice veldt]

assail is nice and all, but josho won't be doing twice my damage with assail

nor with vstrike

[severe folio]

if you think the point can be put elsewhere better sure

[nimble burrow]

muh damage lmao

[fluid knot]

I dunno tbh, for reference i topped 750K with the flu and no sleep yesterday with just Revolver an Assail, i doubt he'd hit 1.5M easily, even with Light'em up and Kickback's scuffed min' pellet count

[harsh urchin]

I mean

if you literally need to

bug-abuse

to barely keep up with the kickback

i got bad news for ya lol

[trim garnet]

im just stuck with this 1 talent point left and no idea what to use it on

[harsh urchin]

(you ain't keeping up :P)

[severe folio]

why not that EP skill

[trim garnet]

its mid for non assail

idk

[severe folio]

and that first level vent shriek upgrade

[trim garnet]

yeah that was the one i was erring towards

[fluid knot]

Because the Kickback + Light'em up issues are r*tarded, yes, but the point is the same, if they're also using a bug then thats the measuring stick put on the table

[severe folio]

which staff is this for

[trim garnet]

its not great but i literally have no idea what else to put it towrads lol

trauma/void

[severe folio]

trauma

well, then

[trim garnet]

i was thinking about just not using EP tbh

[severe folio]

yeah ep kinda iffy

[spice veldt]

josho isn't using light'em up with kickback iirc

[severe folio]

unless you planning to bb a lot more often

[trim garnet]

warp charges seem better for the purpose of brain bursting outside of trauma range

[spice veldt]

but he did 1 million damage in 23 minutes in one game that I can not find the image for

[harsh urchin]

i'm pretty sure the kickback is just that strong

on the baseline

[trim garnet]

my initial thought process was that it makes the "i need this mauler dead NOW" take way less time

but in practice it feels meh

[fluid knot]

Yeah kickback can reach 1M damage, its fuckin busted atm

[severe folio]

bb is probably not going to let you do that

[fluid knot]

But thats basially only due to its minmum pellet count

[severe folio]

but trauma can

[spice veldt]

yes

so kickback is strong

since the minimum pellet count system is a part of it

[trim garnet]

im mostly taking bb since i hate assail and smite seems redundant

[severe folio]

also if you use voidstrike maybe you can disrupt destiny

[trim garnet]

i have not used disrupt

[cyan notch]

aim assist game

[fluid knot]

P'much, it was just buffed in a way i dont think the devs realised how bad the outcome was gonna be

[trim garnet]

is it actually consistent? ive heard mixed things about it sometimes just not marking for a looong time

[fluid knot]

Min' count being 16

Which is just absolutely fucking absurd

[severe folio]

i dont really care about them, its passively giving me buffs because everything die anyway

[trim garnet]

i assume you have to land the final blow on the marked target though yes?

[severe folio]

main thing is voidstrike can hit weakspot and DD increase weakspot damage

and yes you do

[trim garnet]

not that its particularly hard but

just makings ure

[fluid knot]

I've had that issue a lot with DD personally. Just randomly stops highlighting dudes

[severe folio]

but why would you not with a voidstrike

[trim garnet]

just checking

side note but is scriers worth taking outside of gun/transfer peril

[severe folio]

i take scrier with purg

[trim garnet]

i love the concept but idk

purg also sounds good since you can quell as your soublaze kills to reset the acceleration

[severe folio]

not that

[fluid knot]

Scriers is alright, but its a 200% increase to the likelyhood of becoming a walking nuke

If you can manage it, its decent, if you cant, well enjoy exploding a lot

[trim garnet]

i had a hard time with it initially but its not a problem anymore

[severe folio]

thats mitigatable

[trim garnet]

should you try to force higher stacks or just let it end when it ends?

[fluid knot]

Depends entirely on your setup

[trim garnet]

i feel like i find myself quelling to stall for higher stacks just to end up having less time to use them

[severe folio]

i dont really know, i just know that with scrier my purg become the zealot flamer