if shocktrooper actually work on autogun too that would been nice
#psyker-class
wary sleet
yeah
left turtle
alot of people, me included think stormtrooper should affect all their guns, its stupid to be exclusive
especially when theres no autogun exclusive buffs to balance it out
wary sleet
its not a perfect helbore 3 but im happy with it
wary sleet
sometimes i do go back to the good ol kantreal 12 if i need to give my finger a break from holding down charge so much
old citrus
sometimes i do go back to the good ol kantreal 12 if i need to give my finger a ...
cries in laspistol finger
hearty sedge
Important Fashontide poll. Which psyker would you think could carry harder?
left turtle
"Knife"
"carry"
pick one
severe folio
knife
hearty sedge
Knife was for zoomy speedrun stuff. I do have a proper force sword.
severe folio
krieg psyker
honest robin
i want to make a decent staff but i think i spent too much making kickbacks and clubs...
severe folio
what is kickback
honest robin
oggy shotgun
severe folio
oh
honest robin
not to talk about non psyker stuff but i killed a sniper from 70 meters away with one
severe folio
well gues you have to spam a few damnation with that
to get some resource for psykers
left turtle
seriously the lethal range on the kickback now is stupid
honest robin
yeah... but i wanna play psyker and i cant spam damnations without a decent staff
severe folio
dont spam damnation with it then
honest robin
im trying out a smite build
severe folio
spam it with the kickback you invested in lol
what did you build the kickback up for'
frank zealot
I have a weird-ass melee build I bring into damnation that uses the mkiv saber and scrier's gaze
severe folio
because you need resources
hearty sedge
psyker is my only class that's not damnation-ready
Grab a halfway decent voidstrike and build it for crit
severe folio
and for resources you need damnation ready
honest robin
3k plasteel might be enough if hadron doesnt hate me
300k should get a few staffs worth bricking
severe folio
3k plasteel
hadron dont hate you
pick one
honest robin
alright brunt fuck me up
severe folio
i think you should use the kickback until you get more resources
honest robin
2 really good ones and 3 decent ones... that's mildly bad i think
severe folio
what do they look like
honest robin
actually this spread is not super impressive but its not bad
severe folio
the damage
honest robin
the other one has a worse damage roll wtf
brunt you bastard
this is the only one with decent rolls
severe folio
would say charge rate looks terrible
honest robin
charge rate is not a giant range
severe folio
warp resistence unnecessary
actaully, depend on your ability maybe the warp resistance isnt so bad
robust sierra
you guys think I should pick this up from melk's or nah
honest robin
brunt stole all my damn money on this one
proven stirrup
Imagine caring that much about charge rate when warp flurry exists
severe folio
why would you use warp flurry
hoary leaf
really wish I could buy Plasteel with Diamantine
honest robin
i dream of a day where we get a diamantine spend
proven stirrup
Because you can. Especially when your charge rate rolls low(er)
hoary leaf
im at like 12k its so useless after a certain point while Plasteel is much more valuable
proven stirrup
It's not as if surge just doesn't work by itself
severe folio
so you lose out on a blessing slot to compensate for your charge rate
wouldnt you want something like warp nexus
or transfer peril
proven stirrup
??? you can of course use those too
proven stirrup
I was just cracking a joke about it not being the only option. it's not that deep
proven stirrup
I'm not about to try and change anyone's mind about the voidstrike meta
proven stirrup
I will reinforce that metaslaving is boring as shit
honest robin
i dont have voidstrike blessings prepped lol i was hoping to make a base
severe folio
what else is it really going to use
honest robin
i dont need an optimal one even to play damnation
proven stirrup
This entire conversation is a subjective take.
You wanting to use warp nexus or transfer is perfectly valid
as is the use of warp flurry
That's all there is to it
severe folio
idk
honest robin
one day melk will sell me a blessing i want
severe folio
warp flurry just feel kind of useless
honest robin
i dont think i've even seen a staff in his shop for a week
severe folio
like, run and gun useless
spice veldt
I don't trust people who don't qualify their statements
severe folio
what does qualify your statements mean
proven stirrup
Good thing I'm not asking you to trust me
honest robin
the concept of something being boring is inherently subjective
i dont think you need to point it out
spice veldt
subjectivity is implied, but it helps to put markers in your statements to indicate it
fierce crest
I don't trust people who don't qualify their statements
but?
proven stirrup
Because I don't really care what anyone thinks about my personal unwillingness to staple my enjoyment to one specific combination of things
long wharf
if someone is asking for advice, the reasonable assumption is they're trying to optimize for meta-level performance
otherwise, there's no reason to ask for advice in the first place
shell igloo
Hey, does anyone know the ballpark of how much % bonus warp damage you can get just from the talent tree? I'm thinking it's probably like...30%?
honest robin
honestly i just wanted people to be there while brunt ruined my life
left turtle
cause sometimes i ask about whats good on a weapon that isnt meta, and people will say "why use that, use [insert meta weapon here]"
and thats really fucking annoying when people do that
spice veldt
what does qualify your statements mean
basically putting "...in my opinion" and whatnot in your statements
severe folio
oh
proven stirrup
The fact that I have to do that with everything I say is pretty asinine, but fine.
spice veldt
because there have been a few people that have come here ranting about people running certain builds or wanting them to avoid using certain weapons
proven stirrup
Which I did not do even once
spice veldt
but I don't know you
proven stirrup
I'm not doing this
severe folio
i mean technically he's the one who suggest warp flurry for voidstrike
because it has low charge rate
so hes not the one that gatekeeping people from using certain weapons
left turtle
what even started this arguement
severe folio
but rather the one that try to salvage it
bleak tulip
someone said meta boring
proven stirrup
Doesn't matter, the arguement is over
bleak tulip
I think
severe folio
well
initially its whether you want warp flurry on your voidstrike
if it has too low charge rate
long wharf
I would argue there are only two Good blessing combinations for void staff currently
left turtle
Meta is boring but if someone wants optimization then answer the question
severe folio
or you better off just get a new voidstrike
long wharf
surge+nexus and transfer peril+flurry
old citrus
Does an Illisi with blazing spirit/bloodthirsty seem like a meme or actually a fun/decent thing to do?
long wharf
Does an Illisi with blazing spirit/bloodthirsty seem like a meme or actually a f...
it's garbage
severe folio
Does an Illisi with blazing spirit/bloodthirsty seem like a meme or actually a f...
a few hours ago a guy did exactly that
old citrus
it's garbage
bleak tulip
its fun
clear heath
meme tier
long wharf
it's a pale shadow of a former glory
only the first enemy you hit gets that guaranteed crit from bloodthirsty
old citrus
Wait really
long wharf
yep
old citrus
that fucking blows yikes
clear heath
Is it not for the entire first swing?
I thought crits were on a per-swing basis
severe folio
interesting
old citrus
Is it not for the entire first swing?
I thought crits were on a per-swing basis
i was under this impression as well
long wharf
which is why the original implementation of Bloodthirsty was far superior - guaranteed crits for 5s
someone in here said they tested and only the first enemy hit was getting the crit
proven stirrup
That honestly sounds like a bug lmao
long wharf
I don't remember who, though
clear heath
i guess i could test
maybe they meant first swing and not first hit?
but i'll check if i have a bloodthirsty sword
old citrus
I have a bloodthirsty, I can slap blazing spirit on it
yes please 🙂
Well if thats meme tier whats actually Illisi BIS. I assume slaughterer and what, deflector? (executor if you take shield)?
long wharf
I prefer slaughterer + deflector
fierce crest
im p sure ive also seen ppl test bloodthrists and its one crit
clear heath
I do unstable + deflector cause i don't melee as much these days
long wharf
I use Illisi with Surge staff
clear heath
a lot of the time i just pull it out for a sec against mutants
clear heath
someone in here said they tested and only the first enemy hit was getting the cr...
it's the full swing
old citrus
it's the full swing
long wharf
yeah, I'm seeing full swing too
still not great
and Bloodthirsty itself has a 5s activation window
so you can't queue it up and hold onto the charge
long wharf
a lot of the time i just pull it out for a sec against mutants
if I want to melee mutants, I'd use my dueling sword
clear heath
i like the peril stroke
old citrus
bleak tulip
stroke my peril till I burst
old citrus
Stop falling over, its the auric malestrom for gods sake 
fresh reef
<a:noted:1154221590981115904>
Fizzmodeus enjoyer spotted
old citrus
Fizzmodeus enjoyer spotted
atomic zephyr
pretty kills everything already in the grinder, anything recommended to switch?
old citrus
would you want riposte and precog? or is that overkill
cinder moon
ok he-man
long wharf
right?
old citrus
for the honor of the emprah 
long wharf
almost got a he-man-meets-thundercats thing going
I wanted to get a longer grip, but the game doesn't have any
cinder moon
lol yeah, there's some sword of omens there too
long wharf
at least not that the weapon customization mod allows
old citrus
pretty kills everything already in the grinder, anything recommended to switch?
are you keeping uncanny strike or switching it over to riposte?
long wharf
Uncanny Strike is considered mandatory on all dueling swords
old citrus
Mandatory eh?
long wharf
unless you don't care about optimizing your performance
shell igloo
I got bored and homebrewed a new artillery-style force staff. Do you think this staff could fit in the current lineup??
long wharf
sure, we could use a staff of big boom
chrome linden
looking promising
glossy hazel
This slaps pretty hard on a soulblaze build
atomic zephyr
are you keeping uncanny strike or switching it over to riposte?
keeping
i already have a riposte uncanny
im trying precog with the uncanny
shell igloo
I got bored and homebrewed a new artillery-style force staff. Do you think this ...
It's modeled to be a wildly perilous cross between the trauma staff and a lesser-AoE Brain Rupture. Charging the staff would show an arc trajectory, like a nade.
glossy hazel
I got bored and homebrewed a new artillery-style force staff. Do you think this ...
I've been wanting Sienna's fireball staff since day 1 of Darktide
clear heath
at least not that the weapon customization mod allows
maybe you can in the extended extended weapon customization mod
I've seen some pretty cursed shit made with that
glossy hazel
A mix between trauma and voidstrike it'd be
clear heath
haven't tried it myself though
long wharf
maybe you can in the extended extended weapon customization mod
I've seen some p...
that's what I'm playing with
clear heath
oh
long wharf
the combinations have to be manually allowed in the config file for the mod
it's all very hardcoded
glossy hazel
They really need to start pumping out new weapons
old citrus
is surge staff still bugged?
glossy hazel
Especially staves
clear heath
what new staves do we want?
old citrus
or did the hotfix correct that
glossy hazel
Fireball, Beam, AoE DoT are ones for starters
proven stirrup
I would indeed like a pergatus bolt staff
proven stirrup
Not sure an aoe dot staff would be different enough from the purgatus thrower though
glossy hazel
All the Sieanna staves from VT2 can be copy pasted to Darktide
glossy hazel
Not sure an aoe dot staff would be different enough from the purgatus thrower th...
You can place the DoT down then switch to melee or a blitz
proven stirrup
Yeah there's a lot of overlap they could dip into
glossy hazel
Much more flexible
proven stirrup
Oh you mean a persistent area dot not a dot application
ok that makes much more sense
Like little mini flame grenade zones
glossy hazel
Yea, like the firestorm staff or what's it called in VT2
proven stirrup
Yeah that'd be sick
clear heath
coruscation staff
glossy hazel
That one
Fatshark is dropping the ball hard again, all these new players and they are most likely seen everything the game has to offer by now
proven stirrup
Girl, it takes time to develop content
glossy hazel
Theres a shitload of unreleased stuff in the files
proven stirrup
Yeah cuz they had to fix everything around it for a while
The unreleased stuff is poised for updates, that's why it's there at all
chrome linden
they did ALL of this with vermintide AND vermintide 2. it may take a coupe years, but i gurantee itll be a great game when they polish it
proven stirrup
I'll be the first one to call them hacks, but I'm also willing to let them hack in peace
at least they're trying
long wharf
give me a two-handed force glaive melee weapon please
sturdy dagger
give ogryn any 2 handed melee im begging
even if its just the crushers rebar hammer
clear heath
what psyker weapons can we expect to see in the future? Idk warhammer lore
long wharf
almost makes me upset that the staff melee special doesn't do good damage
glossy hazel
they did ALL of this with vermintide AND vermintide 2. it may take a coupe years...
With console version released they'll hopefully start releasing new stuff, they should or this game will begin stagnating and rotting again.
Fitting considering both their tide games have Nurgle.
proven stirrup
I'm shocked they don't have one but also I feel like it'd be thematically overpowered
severe folio
fukin idiot orgyn blocking firing line AND get lost
i swear every orgyn player reflect their own IQ
proven stirrup
Augh it's beautiful
shell igloo
even if its just the crushers rebar hammer
I would do shameful, illegal things for Ogryn to get any kind of 2h
proven stirrup
This just means we'll get it eventually
There's no reason to put assets in the game ahead of them existing if there's no intention for them to eventually exist
glossy hazel
You don't know the half of it
There is stuff in there since release that is yet to be released
proven stirrup
Yeah I full expect this is just them trying to set up cleaner updates for the future.
glossy hazel
proven stirrup
Again, we need to consider how scuffed everything was at launch. This doesn't excuse things but it does explain why the actual content rollout has been so unimpressive.
Having to divert so much of their energy to baseline shit for so long sorta screwed the whole cadence up
shell igloo
All the Sieanna staves from VT2 can be copy pasted to Darktide
I didn't quite like the continuous beam for the VT2 staff, but something hard-hitting like a damn spartan laser would be incredible
proven stirrup
And as we know, they're historically bad at this sorta thing
but they DO eventually get there.
long wharf
oh man, now I'm almost tempted to see just how high I can get the damage on staff melee...
proven stirrup
LMAO
glossy hazel
They didn't even release the full amount of stuff on release that they promised, it took a few months for them to actually put out the amount of weapons that they cited in the description for release.
long wharf
go scrier's gaze + warp charges
proven stirrup
They did buff that didn't they
dense bramble
Bro a force spear bro. You trying to get me hard dude?
long wharf
too late, amirite?
old citrus
does the deimos still out perform the illisi in the current patch?
dense bramble
I didn't quite like the continuous beam for the VT2 staff, but something hard-hi...
I thought that was gonna be smite tbh. Dont know how to feel about how that turned out
old citrus
Deimos is competing with Dueling Swords
and illisi for horde/mixed horde ye?
shell igloo
Both serve different roles
What makes the other swords competitive to the deimos? Doesn't the deimos light attack deal much more dmg than the other models?
dense bramble
What makes the other swords competitive to the deimos? Doesn't the deimos light ...
Illisi has more cleave but deimos has great L H L H combo
spice veldt
What makes the other swords competitive to the deimos? Doesn't the deimos light ...
the first light only
glossy hazel
What makes the other swords competitive to the deimos? Doesn't the deimos light ...
Illisi is for horde clear. Deimos is for single target deletion, same with Dueling Swords.
dense bramble
The stabs are super good but you gotta chain properly
spice veldt
the number that you see on the stat card only remarks on the damage value of the first attack of the respective light/heavy combo
shell igloo
the number that you see on the stat card only remarks on the damage value of the...
Ahh, that's good to know TY. Are there any swords with an exceptionally strong special?
spice veldt
which becomes very uninformative when different attacks have different stats
hmm I don't know anymore, since they tweaked the deimos/obscurus special and I'm pretty sure the illisi's as well
at least in terms of use-case, you do want to spam the illisi's special if you can afford the peril and space
severe folio
i hate grimoire picker in damnation
dense bramble
Ahh, that's good to know TY. Are there any swords with an exceptionally strong s...
Illisi is a budget power sword and you cant get stuck
spice veldt
use the illisi like the psword, in essence
severe folio
fukin idiots
glossy hazel
the number that you see on the stat card only remarks on the damage value of the...
You can actually click the different chain attacks in the damage table and it'll show the damage stats for those certain attacks
shell igloo
use the illisi like the psword, in essence
Oh, does the khaleesi special cleave??
spice veldt
ye, it's essentially the same as the psword special
shell igloo
That's great to know
spice veldt
they have different armour damage modifiers nowadays though I believe
cosmic cedar
What needs done to make this work? Should I just upgrade warp nexus to a higher tier and replace unarmoured with maniacs? Or should it be flak?
spice veldt
You can actually click the different chain attacks in the damage table and it'll...
ye, though stuff in the stat cards like Damage/Stagger Cleave Distribution of the 'Cleave Targets' stat modifier only shows the cleave value of the first attack in each combo unless you consult an external resource
old citrus
Wonder why they applied such heavy slowdown to powersword activation when you can basically sprint while activating the force sword
spice veldt
tbf psword's current design makes it lean very heavily on its activation
shell igloo
What needs done to make this work? Should I just upgrade warp nexus to a higher...
Yeesh, idk, I think those are good upgrade options but I wouldn't settle on that as a forever-staff
spice veldt
illisi's special doesn't have as much offense currently and doesn't have the pcycler blessing among other things, but you don't have weights in your boots
i do like the differentiation in design, so there's that
glossy hazel
Wonder why they applied such heavy slowdown to powersword activation when you ca...
Because the power sword is a beast in melee, it's downside is the lack of mobility.
If it didn't have those disadvantages veteran would unironically be the best melee class solely because of powersword.
cosmic cedar
Yeesh, idk, I think those are good upgrade options but I wouldn't settle on that...
My current staff is base rating 198, I have been really scratching by on my psyker...lol
old citrus
Because the power sword is a beast in melee, it's downside is the lack of mobili...
like old powersword 🙂
i remember those days
cutting entire rooms in half
glossy hazel
Basically yea, best ranged AND melee
spice veldt
the days of 3 activations by default and infinite cleave
clear heath
power sword got buffed this patch and it feels insane
spice veldt
god bless america
clear heath
like obv not as good as it was back when you could swing 7 times
but it feels very strong
spice veldt
having very good hordeclear (including against bruisers esp with brutal momentum) and being able to dink down maulers/crushers
reef apex
Guys i need a good assail build, do you have any?
old citrus
but it feels very strong
the mk6 push into light 4 feels amazing on crushers
warped kernel
what do we think of ideal builds/blessing pair for bloodthirsty illisi though?
lunar hollow
having very good hordeclear (including against bruisers esp with brutal momentum...
the thing is part of the problem with psword is u didnt have other horde clear options
now u do
warped kernel
interested in a melee psyker build with bloodthirsty at the forefront
old citrus
what do we think of ideal builds/blessing pair for bloodthirsty illisi though?
apparently not at all 😛
lunar hollow
so its main upsides are:
shitting on bruisers
good single target
good activated stagger
lunar hollow
instead of its main upsides being:
one of a handful of the good weapons in the game
spice veldt
the dclaw is real
spice veldt
instead of its main upsides being:
one of a handful of the good weapons in the g...
what a god awful period of the game that was
glossy hazel
DClaw is clutch, parrying ANY melee attack for free is huge
lunar hollow
what a god awful period of the game that was
yeah glad they fixed it quickly 🙂
old citrus
parrying monstros is insane
cosmic cedar
Yeesh, idk, I think those are good upgrade options but I wouldn't settle on that...
Correction, the overall rating is actually 189, and it was a force staff 😅 this got me to lvl 30...
glossy hazel
Watching ragers suicide themselves by ballerina dancing on you as their head flies off will never get old
lunar hollow
and now the meta psword loadout is more dependent on hitting heads and whatnot
for brutal momentum/push attack l4 combo
instead of like, not caring in the slightest and all u really had to do was swing in the general direction of a bad guy
cosmic cedar
My psyker has been neglected to oblivion 
reef apex
PLEASE I NEED A GOOD ASSAIL BUILD
spice veldt
PLEASE I NEED A GOOD ASSAIL BUILD
take true aim and empowered psionics
old citrus
PLEASE I NEED A GOOD ASSAIL BUILD
Lol. Do you want to use shield or vent?
cyan notch
the thing is part of the problem with psword is u didnt have other horde clear o...
antax
shell igloo
Guys i need a good assail build, do you have any?
If you have the "Rending Shockwave" blessing, Assail pairs very well with this Trauma staff build https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OncfyGREU5o&t=854s&ab_channel=RealAsianRobot
reef apex
Lol. Do you want to use shield or vent?
wich ones better?
old citrus
wich ones better?
depends on if you what you want to do. For me it varies on if I want to use a FS with deflector or not. Because then shield feels redundant.
hoary leaf
Feel thatz a choice on your part
cosmic cedar
Can I use brain rupture instead of brain burst for the monstronum penance?
reef apex
i use shield
hoary leaf
Can I use brain rupture instead of brain burst for the monstronum penance?
I still need that one just ran the Ogryn one to hit 4 elites in a row with grenade box and I had to turn off all talents cause the game doesnt count the new nade box as the same
restive slate
Who be posting Darktide Youtuber Template Face thumbnails??!
hoary leaf
hope the Brain Burst one aint bugged too
restive slate
Can I use brain rupture instead of brain burst for the monstronum penance?
I did, worked for me
shell igloo
Uhh, I think that was me. Is that a no-no? It just automatically embedded with the link
restive slate
Uhh, I think that was me. Is that a no-no? It just automatically embedded with t...
Hahaha jk jk, just my own personal rule. You can watch whichever you like, just i find faceless guides preferable
hoary leaf
Trauma is the ground exploding staff yeah?
cosmic cedar
Would anyone be down for helping me with monstronum?
hoary leaf
I always mix trauma and void in my brain
hoary leaf
Would anyone be down for helping me with monstronum?
That the kill monster with 90% on your own?
shell igloo
I always mix trauma and void in my brain
Void is the straight-line bazooka. Trauma is the ground splodey yeah. Trauma has a really good blessing that applies up to 40% brittleness on charged attack
cosmic cedar
That the kill monster with 90% on your own?
Yessir, in a private match only.
hoary leaf
Im down to help but need 2 more, im playing my ogryn now too so i can tank if needed
reef apex
thanks guys all who helped me with the build
cosmic cedar
Ez way is deff just hitting a DH
Sending friend code in DM now.
Anyone else willing to assist with monstronum? I would be down to help others with it too.
shell igloo
Ez way is deff just hitting a DH
"Ez" and "DH" should only be in the same sentence when saying "DH is an ez way to wipe"
steel flame
lol with 12 stamina, 55% block efficiency and deflector i can block 30 gunners for almost 10 seconds
and peril block
cosmic cedar
"Ez" and "DH" should only be in the same sentence when saying "DH is an ez way t...
Ogryn with shield = DH is fucked.
shell igloo
lol with 12 stamina, 55% block efficiency and deflector i can block 30 gunners f...
Why take telekine shield when you can BE the telekine shield
steel flame
exactly
cosmic cedar
Would really appreciate help with monstronum if 2 more are down for it, gonna check the lfg tab to see if I can find +2. I have a lvl 30 shield ogryn I could help with afterwards too.
old citrus
what do i do with this thing? Powderburn and idk crit hit dmg to like maniac i guess?
pale matrix
is assail still the best blitz? Also did void get nerfed and if so what's the best staff rn?
shell igloo
is assail still the best blitz? Also did void get nerfed and if so what's the b...
I think assail is in a pretty strong place, and the other blitzes are still perfectly viable in their own right
pale matrix
I think assail is in a pretty strong place, and the other blitzes are still perf...
what exactly did they nerf for assail? is it just lower damage across the board or did it also get nerfed vs flak?
spice veldt
void got a -12.8% damage reduction, and had its armour damage modifier against carapace lowered from 100% to 75%
pale matrix
void got a -12.8% damage reduction, and had its armour damage modifier against c...
shoot
old citrus
what exactly did they nerf for assail? is it just lower damage across the board...
its nerf/buffed. primary is less good at horde clear and the special is BETTER at single target killing
spice veldt
The base damage of Assail's LMB was reduced from 250 to 200
its ADMs are the same as far as I can tell, though I didn't really test it extensively
probably still 75% against Flak, which is still fine
shell igloo
what exactly did they nerf for assail? is it just lower damage across the board...
left-click spam is less effective, but still clears weak hordes. Right-click now deals more dmg and rewards you for being more deliberate
pale matrix
left-click spam is less effective, but still clears weak hordes. Right-click now...
ty
spice veldt
it still has the ammo economy to be spammed so go ham with it
pale matrix
it still has the ammo economy to be spammed so go ham with it
what do you reckon is the best staff now that void's been nerfed?
spice veldt
i don't really use staffs so I have no idea
but the nerf to void seems pretty minor to me
from 765 base damage to 675
or -12.8% damage
shell igloo
i don't really use staffs so I have no idea
Someone please escort this heretic to the veteran channel
spice veldt
don't worry I just spam assail instead
pale matrix
from 765 base damage to 675
the caparace nerf is what's messing with my build
strong gulch
it still has the ammo economy to be spammed so go ham with it
I was testing builds in the meat grinder and unticked quick shards. I ran a map and forgot to retick that node. I never even noticed until after the fact.
The economy is bonkers.
small reef
After leveling up a bit brainburst psyker with warp charges giving less peril generation make it feel a lot better
steel flame
the caparace nerf is what's messing with my build
oooo noooooo, guess youll just have to kill them like god intended,
with a dueling sword
steel flame
uncanny go brrrrr
atomic zephyr
that is true
potent echo
im so whelmed by gunker with scrier
venting shriek just gives so much more value and cc
steel flame
what is so whelming about it
fallow falcon
Funny fire sword
steel flame
i feel like a vet without ammo regen or nades
i feel like vet, but better and faster 
is what i might say if i ever played vet
vet is Zzzzzzzz
spice veldt
the crit chance and +finesse buffs can be interesting with a certain weapon that has long crit strings and good finesse
steel flame
why throw smokes when you can just abuse empathic evasion
potent echo
the crit chance and +finesse buffs can be interesting with a certain weapon that...
yea but that just makes you vet adjacent
i want to trivialize the entire game with creeping flames
spice veldt
vets are dripless and don't have duelling swords
here's an ideal showcase (15 DD stacks and AI turned off), but crit strings on the columnus are interesting https://streamable.com/h56i2e
there's True Aim at work, but 42.5% crit chance is attainable (20% from scriers, +7.5% base, +5% node, +5% perk, +5% aura)
bleak tulip
here's an ideal showcase (15 DD stacks and AI turned off), but crit strings on t...
what kind of a weirdo fills the peril bar backwards smh
also lmao
spice veldt
so roughly 1-2 normal shots followed by a 4-shot crit string on average for the columnus with max crit chance attainable
steel flame
what was the overall dps from that
bleak tulip
true aim is a well thought out talent
spice veldt
plogryns have ~66k hp and it took 10 seconds, so 6.6k DPS
tbf the IAGs have good weakspot and crit multipliers against unyielding in particular
so it might not extrapolate as well to the other armour types
(well they're good against all of the armour types, but they're both the highest against unyielding among the armour types I think?)
i lied it was maniac that I was thinking of
bleak tulip
yeah that explains why even a relatively unoptimized one shits all over muties
steel flame
tbf the IAGs have good weakspot and crit multipliers against unyielding in parti...
i can reach 4.1k dps in meat grinder without 25% unyielding with laspistol, but i can actually get it to fire faster while in a game than i can in the meatgrinder so the dps is higher than that in a real mission
i dunno why that is
bleak tulip
when in doubt, latency
spice veldt
interesting
wispy pike
Its the power of the warp obv
next mist
fuck this crafting system
+10% ordo dockets +10% ordo dockets +10% ordo dockets
90% of rejects quit right before they hit the 379 force sword
bleak tulip
⛏️
strong gulch
380 with the wrong dump stat
next mist
380 with damage at 60%
static mantle
Every psyker I've played with since the newest patch has been using smite. Is it really that much better now?
steel flame
dont worry, hadron will make sure to brick it if the stats are good
next mist
smite is really good but its so boring
bleak tulip
shell igloo
Every psyker I've played with since the newest patch has been using smite. Is it...
I think it's in a great place, but I've personally seen a great mix of psykers using all blitzes
next mist
except brain burst
BB too slow for current patch................................................
small reef
Is there any difference between charging and locking on brainburst other that the obvious that are you can change who you target and the lock is lost when the enemy die?
strong gulch
You can pre charge the RMB BB
small reef
But it's the same if you hit as soon as you have it charge if you already have someone targeted
next mist
ya
small reef
Huh
I guess am just precharging just to make sure the enemies don't die while am locking on them
I expected to have any difference like charge time or damage but no
marble locust
I use bb plenty it's fine, not good or great just fine.
shell igloo
I guess am just precharging just to make sure the enemies don't die while am loc...
Rmb used to have an additional charge cost and time for BB, but I think all additional costs for rmb have been removed
marble locust
Assail is a crutch, and BB handles snipers better.
marble locust
Yeah you don't use it 25% or more of the match like Assail, which was having people only use it all match.
strong gulch
People who need crutches, need crutches.
shell igloo
BB could probably still use a little love. I've had several Damnation games where it feels like I can never complete a BB before the zealot or vet annihilate everything in the room
marble locust
They should make it have a chance to crit.
shell igloo
BB could probably still use a little love. I've had several Damnation games wher...
That said, I also think BB is still in a VIABLE place right now.
strong gulch
Never heard of anyone enjoy using crutches either.
Get blasted right in the armpit.
small reef
Psyker seems like the class that has the most things to learn for what it seems
torpid girder
Is the duelling sword good vs hordes?
strong gulch
No, but it can manage them.
marble locust
It's an atypical class not the norm for these things. Good compared to what staves, No
torpid girder
hmmm
shell igloo
Is the duelling sword good vs hordes?
I think they're great for hordes. Just be sure to aim for heads for that finesse dmg bonus.
spice veldt
they're somewhat below average, but they'll work if you've got rampage on them
marble locust
The MK5 is good for dodging into the next planet
torpid girder
Also, is there a good way to farm plasteel besides just running quickplay over and over?
strong gulch
Good vs hordes to me means you can either control a horde and/or melt it.
spice veldt
not really, unfortunately
marble locust
Nope
bleak tulip
you can kind of stay alive indefinitely against hordes with mk4 push block
with zero effort
spice veldt
besides going specifically for linear maps like magistrati/consignment yard instead of being up to the whims of quickplay
bleak tulip
but muh 20%
small reef
It's an atypical class not the norm for these things. Good compared to what stav...
It's almost like Sienna but i feel like she was really limited on her power. This feels nice
spice veldt
materials only scale based on difficulty (and quickplay) and nothing else
shell igloo
I think the trick for maximum plasteel is to play at the highest comfortable difficulty you can. Search off-the-path a LITTLE bit for resources, but don't scour every inch of the map either.
bleak tulip
whats the worst that ould happen, I get vent purge for the third time in a row? 
strong gulch
Lucking out with loot goblin team mates helps, but those are so rare these days.
thorn cedar
the trick to max plasteel is to play way too fucking much
spice veldt
damnation is a big step up in maximum materials spawned, so it's usually ideal to play it (low int preferably)
marble locust
Diamantine shouldn't even be in the game at this point it's pointless
sitting on 30 k of it
spice veldt
yeah fatshark is sitting on what to do with diamantine it seems
wonder how long it'll take for diamantine to be relevant again
shell igloo
damnation is a big step up in maximum materials spawned, so it's usually ideal t...
That's not entirely true. It's a 60% increase in plasteel from Malice to Heresy and a 55% increase from Heresy to Damnation
thorn cedar
let me cash it out for my 401k
strong gulch
Also being happy with "good enough" or "just fine" gear helps with plasteel.
BUT the psyker chat. We are never satisfied.
bleak tulip
I choose to believe that fatshark isnt letting us name or "lock" weapons in inventory vanilla so we dont hoard a buncha shit for when dismantle gets chagned
spice veldt
That's not entirely true. It's a 60% increase in plasteel from Malice to Heresy ...
pretty big step up
and damnation has a better plasteel-to-diamantine ratio than heresy and malice
shell igloo
Sorry, you're absolutely correct. I did my math backwards.
spice veldt
ye no worries
actually, I think my diamantine gain has been neutral?
i'm pretty sure I've been floating around the same amount for a good amount of time now
i should probably get numbers on the ratio of plasteel-to-diamantine used for consecration/refining/reblessing
strong gulch
Refining.... so farking expensive.
cobalt bone
out of curiousity, what second blessing would be good on the revolver beside speedloader? i currently have hand cannon on it as 2nd
bleak tulip
I do get stupidly lucky on other classes meme of the week weapons tho
I keep not getting hadron'd
spice veldt
out of curiousity, what second blessing would be good on the revolver beside spe...
Surgical (+10% crit chance per stack; you gain a stack per x seconds while aiming)
cobalt bone
Surgical (+10% crit chance per stack; you gain a stack per x seconds while aimin...
gotta get lucky for that one then
lunar hollow
actually, I think my diamantine gain has been neutral?
not me lmao
gained like 10k since patch 13
closing in on 100k diamantine
strong gulch
Dang. I was watching a darktide run, but I paused it part way through. Now it's gone. 🥲
Bye bye unfinished video. You will be forgotten.
spice veldt
hmm yeah i've been floating around 50k diamantine
lunar hollow
im at roughly 83k
spice veldt
i think i had 48k a month ago but i'm not sure
shell igloo
Bro, the floodgates that are gonna open when they finally (emperor willing) allow some form of currency conversion
crimson remnant
gg
lunar hollow
Bro, the floodgates that are gonna open when they finally (emperor willing) allo...
if we can trade diamantine for plasteel im gonna be darktide jeff bezos
crimson remnant
they have great synergy
old citrus
yes apparently uncanny strike should be put in there somewhere
i too was running precof/riposte and indeed it was overkill
uncanny really helps put crushers/maulers down faaaast
crimson remnant
can always change
bleak tulip
its neither
potent echo
Soulfire staff?
bleak tulip
you can do it
potent echo
Or stuff
bleak tulip
yeah purg and assail is probably getting the least value out of assail but there isnt really a reason not to take it still lol
dense bramble
any builds combining soulfire stuff with assail?
Blaze on the force sword running the elite kill soulblaze thing
shell igloo
Is it true that uncanny stacks apply to ticks from force sword special? Cause that seems wild
bleak tulip
it applies to soulblaze so its possible
dense bramble
Is it true that uncanny stacks apply to ticks from force sword special? Cause th...
It feels like it helps
What is the best Purg build currently? I run it with BB just for the wildfire
shell igloo
I'm wondering if uncanny could actually let you one-shot maulers/crushers with a single special headshot
potent echo
BB, shriek, warpsiphon
potent echo
I'm wondering if uncanny could actually let you one-shot maulers/crushers with a...
No
But canny gets 4 stacks instantly from the special
potent echo
BB, shriek, warpsiphon
This is what I run, not saying it's the best but...
shell igloo
What is the best Purg build currently? I run it with BB just for the wildfire
I really enjoy this setup. It's great for most encounters, but has one major vulnerability against scattered shooters at mid-range
potent echo
But canny gets 4 stacks instantly from the special
So crusher combo for deimos is special head > light > heavy
potent echo
I really enjoy this setup. It's great for most encounters, but has one major vul...
Slide in and suppress them all, pray for empathic evasion
shell igloo
I really enjoy this setup. It's great for most encounters, but has one major vul...
You have to hope someone else on your team is able to deal with it. That should be a cake-walk for a competent vet to wipe up, but you only occasionally get one of those
strong gulch
also quelling
dense bramble
I really enjoy this setup. It's great for most encounters, but has one major vul...
Yep
spice veldt
i should probably get numbers on the ratio of plasteel-to-diamantine used for co...
so my net neutral gain of diamantine is probably because I refine/rebless a lot more than I consecrate at least nowadays
bleak tulip
youll never become a diamantillionare like this
potent echo
Imagine if fatshark just straight up scraps those 2 currencies
bleak tulip
retvrn to colored shards
bleak tulip
give it a year or two and we'll get loot die
open stratus
This should not exist as a reward from an auric 5 maelstrom.....
bleak tulip
I do wish books did that tbh
open stratus
I already have 4... lol
potent echo
rip
bleak tulip
well now you have 3 too
shell igloo
lootdie <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
Lootdie adds +50 base rating to the reward if it's a weapon and +20(?) if it's a curio
bleak tulip
gotta catch em all
if you dont have alöl the blessings available are you really playing the game
potent echo
Lootdie adds +50 base rating to the reward if it's a weapon and +20(?) if it's a...
lootdie adds/subtracts 50 base rating
shell igloo
lootdie adds/subtracts 50 base rating <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Our lord Tzeentch approves this message
cosmic sigil
is it me or the obscurus swings go quite well with weakpoints related blessings?
looking at this video https://youtu.be/2MZOQxUXPQo?si=pXdt8vcRL5CDpriT
thorn lintel
what is the best dueling sword mark ? II , IV or V
potent echo
is it me or the obscurus swings go quite well with weakpoints related blessings?
the light > light has always been super funky/cool
spice veldt
2nd light 🥺
potent echo
first one pushes their head down to the side, second one comes up like an uppercut
but it requires too much effort so
spice veldt
i despise the 2nd light
uppercuts should never exist on a finesse weapon
i'll shoot its kneecaps
cosmic sigil
the light > light has always been super funky/cool
I never used the obscurus, 99% of my time as a psyker was with an illisi.
I do feel something changed tho, it doesn't behave as well as before.
I don't know if it's the dodges, slaughterer or the mobs being tankier
atomic zephyr
how usefull is rampage on a mk4 duel sword? does it even trigger often?
i see some people running it
stable silo
i wish i could take the 3 middle talents in the tree but you just cant 😦
@thorn lintel mk4
spice veldt
how usefull is rampage on a mk4 duel sword? does it even trigger often?
they bumped the cleave up, so you can proc & maintain it with lights on groaners/poxwalkers
for dreg bruisers, you'll need to push-attack to proc it, but you can maintain it with lights after getting the +cleave from the +power of rampage
you won't be able to maintain it with lights on scab bruisers
I prefer uncanny + rampage for everything that's not melee/monstrosity maelstrom
atomic zephyr
I prefer uncanny + rampage for everything that's not melee/monstrosity maelstrom
not melee?
spice veldt
i prefer having the crit blessings/precog for melee/monstrosity over rampage
atomic zephyr
lol ok, that other reply was confusing
spice veldt
oh melee maelstrom yeah
atomic zephyr
question does unyielding dmg and carapace dmg offer the same dmg boost against crushers?
lunar hollow
only carapace
atomic zephyr
crushers dont count as unyielding?
lunar hollow
nope
lyric burrow
crushers are full carapace
atomic zephyr
would it seem somewhat useless to have carapace dmg on a mk4 with uncanny?
atomic zephyr
ah ok
rough cedar
hey guys what perks should i have on the surge force staff and preferably whats a good meele to have recently hit lv 30 and still kinda confused what to spend resources on
lyric burrow
youll delete crushers with it
lunar hollow
u get more value out of +carapace with uncanny than u would without it
lyric burrow
the only things you really need are unyielding/carapace/maniac so its up to you
but i run carapace
cause the unyielding dmg isnt high enough for me to spec into it
lunar hollow
https://streamable.com/1slk7j @spice veldt
spice veldt
rip bozo
lyric burrow
rip bozo
atomic zephyr
cause the unyielding dmg isnt high enough for me to spec into it
i wanted to build for some boss dps, but it feels like overall, the psyker isnt meant to do that
spice veldt
i heard him get grabbed by a mutie and immediately heard the slams as well
what a tragic fate of a 5-wound psyker
lyric burrow
you need to take like scriers with a gun for any real monstrosity dps
lyric burrow
i think i had a game where there were 30 combined revives
because 2 guys went down non stop
it was truly impressive
silent coral
so what weapon is best for the whole melee scriers build?
lyric burrow
ds4 + las pistol or vraks 7, ive gotten vraks 7 to work as well
lunar hollow
lyric burrow
deimos also works
lunar hollow
u shank guys
lyric burrow
scriers with a DS also allows it to horde clear
which is nice
sciers + DD but tbh i doubt DD makes a big difference
potent echo
tbh you could have done that without gaze
lunar hollow
it looks cooler
potent echo
true
lunar hollow
with the screen effect
scriers is also the ult that i just straight up forget to use
because its like cool but beyond that 
i run it cuz i like the voicelines
lyric burrow
i dont think its bad but its very niche
lunar hollow
its not bad
but it needs some work
it is deranged that vet gets to chain through cooldown with exe stance
lyric burrow
i need to go out of my way to give myself a reason to use it lol
lyric burrow
yeah exe stance is still mad good
vet with the rework if they leave him as is will be gross
lyric burrow
although tbf psyker doesnt need any buffs lol
lunar hollow
i think vet unironically has one of the most balanced lineups
in terms of which ult u run
lyric burrow
oh i just meant like stuff like plasma gun being very good atm
lunar hollow
theres benefits and downsides to both (though shout is a bit overtuned)
lyric burrow
or columnus
lunar hollow
plasma still needs a full rework
imo
the gun does not make sense
the LMB is more ammo efficient and equally as heat efficient
lyric burrow
idk what they want it to be
lunar hollow
see what i would do
lyric burrow
like i thought it was gonna be the delete single target anything gun
lunar hollow
make primary fire have very limited cleave, but a bigger splash
lyric burrow
but then they just slapped +100 cleave on it
lyric burrow
yeah
lunar hollow
and then make the RMB have better ammo efficiency/ADM vs unyielding and carapace
cuz like, u should have to charge up ur big boy hunter gun
to kill the big boys
because the plasma cleave sounds cool, but
lyric burrow
i can get behind that idk why both shots accomplish the same thing but with worse ammo effic
lunar hollow
it still hard stops on carapace
shell igloo
the LMB is more ammo efficient and equally as heat efficient
So if you take the talent that "secondary fire" has like +25% crit chance, I think that give good reason to charge-fire for things like crushers
lyric burrow
i dont even use the cleave tbh
lunar hollow
which means in a lot of situations its meh
lyric burrow
its only nice when elites line up
lunar hollow
and it does good vs rager/gunner packs, but u also have a shit ton of other tools
for dealing with those
lyric burrow
otherwise im wasting ammo
lunar hollow
So if you take the talent that "secondary fire" has like +25% crit chance, I thi...
it's roughly as ammo efficient for crushers/reapers
which is a shame
lyric burrow
you also dont need to charge shot most things
lunar hollow
and the primary fire has 50 cleave
anyways
and the charged shot scales it up to 100
lyric burrow
like it doesnt do a ton for breakpoints
lunar hollow
or if it does hit BPs its still overkill
because a lot of stuff u can 2 shot
but the charged shot takes up 3 shots of ammo
lyric burrow
i think the only relevant one it does for me is one shot on crit headshot on a crusher
but if it doesnt crit its just a 2 shot
and so is 2 LMBs
lunar hollow
yeah
the gun is janky as fuck
the buff just made it usable (and meta for scab melee only lmao)
thorn lintel
<@228405645139902465> mk4
ty!
lyric burrow
i didnt even hate it before
lunar hollow
the problem before was
lyric burrow
but bolter also existed before
lunar hollow
it did nothing a hb3/bolter wouldnt do
u were taking this gun to flex
essentially
lyric burrow
yeah i always wanted to bring it to do single target super well
but your better off with bolter/mk3 or even mk12 and now vraks 7
potent echo
plasma with flak/unarmored in pre13 could 1 tap gunners and that was cool
lunar hollow
i mean plasma is usable
lyric burrow
i also wish its boss damage was better '
potent echo
didnt need to reload as often as bolter
lunar hollow
because the thing it does
lyric burrow
i do think its good now
lunar hollow
is nuke elite patrols
very quickly
and in the post patch 13 world there are so many goddamn elites now
(which is good and anyone who tells u otherwise is a snake in the garden)
lunar hollow
no my problem was always special spam
which is still there
but now the game has dynamic elite spawns + scripted spawns on some maps are more aggressive
elite patrols are more common
which is good
lyric burrow
yeah i like where the games difficulty it at rn
lunar hollow
elites are the fun enemies u wanna fight, y'know, when u think 40k u think battling heretics
not fucking
lyric burrow
i still feel a little op in some loadouts
lunar hollow
having to press dodge at the right sound cue 5 times in a row
lyric burrow
but nothing crazy
lunar hollow
because theres a million trappers on the screen
potent echo
gunners are kind of lame though
lunar hollow
well like if people complain about power creep
u have to keep in mind
u have to be good at the game and know what ur doing
for that power creep to apply
plenty of fresh 30s wandering into aurics and getting their asses handed to them lol
lunar hollow
gunners are kind of lame though
yeah theyre in a bad spot rn, when u get like 20 of them on the screen at certain points its just tiring
lyric burrow
yeah for a while i fucking depised assail + void cause it felt so braindead easy to me and then i saw someone borderline fail to function in auric and i thought that maybe its not as bad as i thought
i hate gunners less than i used to but the dont move or you get stunlocked every 5 seconds does get annoying
when the game goes that way
i still thank god everyday that dogs are better
potent echo
tide games are actually just a dps check, if you kill things before they swarm you, game easy
potent echo
if you dont kill anything and everything hits you at once welp
lunar hollow
bugged sound cues, stupid high stagger res
etc
like the dumbest fucking interaction in the game
is a trapper running up to you
and you push
lyric burrow
so its not just me that has them ignore my push and im sad
potent echo
trappers are funky, you should be able to push them yea
potent echo
kill them first
lunar hollow
potent echo
unironically
lyric burrow
i think if you hit them it works better but hitting them is not in my muscle memory
lunar hollow
the problem is never
when there is 1 trapper
it is when u have to kill other stuff and the trapper spawns around a corner and is already in ur face
lyric burrow
when they are point blank
potent echo
dont be in a corner
lyric burrow
idk if ive had sound cue issues but maybe i just havent noticed them
lunar hollow
its map dependent
the problem is that the engine is at its limits with enemy spawns a lot of the time now
esp on maelstroms
lyric burrow
aside from this patchs spawn jank at least
lunar hollow
so u can get completely silent muties/bursters but
theres instances
where ur standing in 1 spot
special is super distant
lyric burrow
oh yeah the sound engine just breaks
potent echo
i always took that to mean that its targetting you
lyric burrow
esp on stuff like waves of mutants + poxbursters and hounds
lunar hollow
esp on stuff like waves of mutants + poxbursters and hounds
this is where it happens a lot
lyric burrow
sound just turns off lol
potent echo
i feel that mutant sound cue radiates from the person it is targetting, for sure
lyric burrow
i thought maybe my onboard audio was the issue but i got a soundcard and have the same issue
lunar hollow
fatshark devs r mostly not playing auric maelstroms
potent echo
and when the original person its targetting breaks its targetting (like jumping off a ledge or something) it changes target to you
and you get the ear deafening scream
lunar hollow
nah
lyric burrow
fatshark devs r mostly not playing auric maelstroms
i question if they are even running damnation sometimes
lunar hollow
the audio in this game is super janky
potent echo
probably not
lunar hollow
i question if they are even running damnation sometimes
theyve streamed it before
but for the most part theyre not gonna have the same issues people who play the game a lot are
potent echo
wasnt that like the CMs
lunar hollow
just cuz thats like, how it goes with any game
lyric burrow
because i just have a very hard time that somebody played agianst the old dogs and said yeah that works
lunar hollow
the developers are almost always to some degree out of touch with the gameplay
lunar hollow
because i just have a very hard time that somebody played agianst the old dogs a...
dude
hold on
ur misunderstanding
with old dogs
if you self-hosted
they worked perfectly
lyric burrow
or used old voidstrike and said yeah thats fine
lunar hollow
like in the psykh with creature spawner
u could do everything u can now
slide under, push consistently, etc
lyric burrow
ah ok i did hear about that but didnt think about the fact thats what fatshark devs would be playing on lol
potent echo
they just made dogs work client sided now right?
lyric burrow
think they just gave them lag compensation
lunar hollow
u can push em from super far away
lyric burrow
essentially
potent echo
so its like a bandaid
lunar hollow
and the lag comp is better
because the issue before was shitty lag compensation
and dogs just having a spaz attack
lyric burrow
yeah for me pushing them is super consistent
lunar hollow
and the game arbitrating that u didnt push them
lyric burrow
knock on wood
lunar hollow
if there was any weirdness at all
lyric burrow
i find i can just do it on reaction to the soundcue now
vital mural
Does anyone have any advice on getting the Warp Battery penance
lyric burrow
whether they wind up the pounce or not
lunar hollow
Does anyone have any advice on getting the Warp Battery penance
bugged to not work rn i believe
vital mural
Oh..
lunar hollow
or used old voidstrike and said yeah thats fine
a lot of weapons that were underperforming
vital mural
I got up to 202 seconds
lunar hollow
were working as intended
potent echo
people were reporting that they did it
lunar hollow
its just what they thought the weapon was performing
wasn't actually good
like void had some of the best suppression vs shooters in the game
potent echo
old void was decent next to surge in malice probably
lunar hollow
and could completely disable patrols with suppression alone
but like... in practice, this is worthless in a lot of cases
lyric burrow
like balancing games is hard and they have done a good job of bringing some of the bad stuff up but i just question a few things
yeah in a game where DPS is king suppression is
ok
lunar hollow
the reception to the psword/flamer nerf
influenced the state of balance pre-patch 13
lyric burrow
i think the flamer nerf was fine aside from it affecting all burn damage
psword nerf was dumb since they just put it behind crafting
lyric burrow
they nerfed the time it takes to set up righjt
lunar hollow
fundamentally psword is just a bizarre weapon
potent echo
flamer has so many downsides though
lyric burrow
i swear its slower than before
potent echo
i think it was as slow as before
lyric burrow
not that i used it a ton
lunar hollow
if i had it my way u wouldnt even be able to use those guns
potent echo
they also stop firing when anything touches you
lyric burrow
i dont like flamer cause its a little mindless
potent echo
horrible
lunar hollow
flamer is a weapon that makes me interact with the game less
lunar hollow
and its really slow
potent echo
flamer is just shit
lunar hollow
and it doesnt even like
make enemies instantly disappear like a kickback does
which means it isnt funny
look at these shooters
lyric burrow
current kickback rn is very funny
lunar hollow
now u see them now u dont
tame venture
trauma staff may be your thing, as it makes ragdolls do the funny
potent echo
trauma has too much white shit going on
lunar hollow
trauma is alright but im waiting for them to release more staffs
lyric burrow
im so glad they buffed it shooting a gunner point blank and not killing it with my single shot cannon made me sad
lunar hollow
none of them really click with me in a way where im like
"damn this is banging"
theyre all just kinda tolerable except purg
lyric burrow
i like trauma quite a lot
fierce crest
lunar hollow
trauma is cool but it was also like the one thing i could use pre-patch 13 as far as staffs go
potent echo
purg is the best staff in terms of gameplay
lyric burrow
i should try void again only played it once since patch 13
potent echo
you get to interact with so many mechanics
lyric burrow
surge is also fun
potent echo
flanking, sliding, suppressing
lunar hollow
i like gunpsyker the most rn
lyric burrow
damn
spice veldt
that counts I suppose
tame venture
lunar hollow
because scriers loner has some funny voicelines
lyric burrow
i mostly play psyker for the melee tho
shell igloo
trauma is alright but im waiting for them to release more staffs
Check out this staff concept I came up with. Do you think it's something they should add to the game?
potent echo
Check out this staff concept I came up with. Do you think it's something they sh...
fireball staff2
terse saffron
does stopping power help with any breakpoints on MK3?
potent echo
i would want one
spice veldt
I like to use purg's LMB often and just use it to support a melee playstyle
lunar hollow
Check out this staff concept I came up with. Do you think it's something they sh...
any new staffs would be good but i think this would probably be too strong because its an ogryn nuke with no ammo limitation
tame venture
does stopping power help with any breakpoints on MK3?
how on earth do people get these super high modifiers rolls anyway, just buy thousands of greys and hope?
i'm not a gacha player
potent echo
just roll till you get 370+
tame venture
also managing an inventory like that would be painful
terse saffron
twas an emperor gift drop
potent echo
thats why you name your weapons
lyric burrow
how on earth do people get these super high modifiers rolls anyway, just buy tho...
yes
lunar hollow
how on earth do people get these super high modifiers rolls anyway, just buy tho...
yup
lmao
lyric burrow
multiple of my perfect weapons cost me million+ dockets
tame venture
😔
potent echo
because you also need to pray hadron doesnt brick it
lyric burrow
partly because it takes forever to get a good roll sometimes but also cause hadron bricks a bunch of them
potent echo
i have 7mil now
lyric burrow
i used to have a ton till i started fishing for perfect weapons rather than good enough weapons
tame venture
honestly this game drives home the experience of living in a company town better than DRG, which is specifically themed about it
potent echo
i might be going for the perfect weapons soon
tame venture
multiple of my perfect weapons cost me million+ dockets
so what you're saying is that i need the +money blessing on every one of my curios, eh?
potent echo
just play more aurics
lyric burrow
auric will get you plenty
terse saffron
+docket trinkets are additive to modifier bonus or multiplicative?
shell igloo
any new staffs would be good but i think this would probably be too strong becau...
That's fair, this is still much less dmg than the frag bomb though (I think like 60%?) and intended to cost a full peril cycle to charge and quell before recast. I'm sure the numbers could be tweaked 👍