psyker-class

[still hearth]

What perks for Trauma

[glossy ember]

time to give this a shot

[static needle]

oh left mouse

lol

[still hearth]

I assume Flak and Maniac

[severe folio]

you can either go rending shockwave or blazing spirit

[still hearth]

That's blessings

[severe folio]

oh you mean perk

well

someone told me it can either be flak maniac or elite

[still hearth]

I already have good ones with those blessing setups

[bright mica]

Here's what I mean, ignore my OBS interface and just look above my toughness bar for the Dumdum icon. Weird.

[severe folio]

recommend maniac

[still hearth]

So I'll try the Warp Nexus + Warp Flurry combo

[severe folio]

recommend swap flurry for rending shockwave

[still hearth]

Yeah but I won't

Because I already got that

[glossy ember]

even at 6 warp stacks, need 2hs and 1s for a rager kill...

[still hearth]

So I'll see if this does anything

[glossy ember]

unless double crit

[ornate hamlet]

That vidoe is too small

[severe folio]

flurry let you do max charge faster and build peril faster

if thats what youre looking for

[static needle]

Is the mkIV the best devils claw sword for psyker?

[ornate hamlet]

…..

[bright mica]

but yeah that's a pretty useful interaction, makes Perilous Combustion a must have for Dumdum Gunsykers until this gets patched

well it's too good to ever pass up anyway :P

[ornate hamlet]

Oh I have that on rn

[bright mica]

Personally I prefer Dueling Swords especially post buff, but yes the DC4 is the best Devil Claw

[ornate hamlet]

For my brain burst build too

It helps a lot

Purgatus stacking as well it’s damage worthy

[glossy ember]

that's what i personally run

[bright mica]

Keep an eye out for one of these too.

[west stream]

what did you do to those swords

[static needle]

TY

[bright mica]

Extended Extended Weapons Customisation mod (yes thats two Extendeds lol)

[glossy ember]

pretty decent experience with this build so far

i haven't felt the need for kinetic deflection too

[bright mica]

Wait till you see my Columnus

[bright mica]

I've been rarely running KD especially with Smite

If you want a safe revive with Smite btw, alt fire charge, do a 360, release and start reviving

releasing a Smite knocks enemies back

[glossy ember]

damn

[bright mica]

enough time for safe revive

[glossy ember]

360 noscopes...

i didn't know that

thanks for the tip

i still don't use smite enough lol

[static needle]

why does spinning around help? @bright mica

[frank moat]

Omnissiah’s Eye trinket get

[bright mica]

Just to tag the enemies around you

It is based on where your cursor is

[olive ember]

I just revive through the horde ngl

Peril blocking pretty much gives like 10 extra effective stam

[bright mica]

We're talking about not using KD in this instance

[olive ember]

Ah

[bright mica]

If one Smite isn't enough it's worth spamming the Smite push

[dim parrot]

same, mostly push them away with scream and revive

[bright mica]

big fan of Smite though, it's a very small point investment for an infinite use CQC Zealot stun grenade

[static needle]

To do high single target dmg with the surge staff, i should use secondary fire?

[bright mica]

Yeah absolutely lmao

The left click is a peashooter designed for things out of reach like Gunners or Snipers far enough away

[dim parrot]

sometimes still really useful ^^
but also mostly use primary

or is it secondary?

the one with the lighting lmao

[bright mica]

while it looks like Surge just jumps to enemies, it actually priotitizes a special/elite closest to your cursor, delivering far less damage in subsequent jumps.

I like the way it behaves now, requires a lot more aim instead of being a boring CC machine like before

[dim parrot]

especially with ep

[bright mica]

I thought they fixed Empowered Psionics on it already

[dim parrot]

nope

[bright mica]

Wow you weren't kidding

[dim parrot]

at least it doesn't feel like it lmao

but shh

[wispy pike]

Enjoy it while it lasts

[bright mica]

Wow pretty big difference

I probably won't actually use this though

[dim parrot]

indeed

its really good for any special there is

[static needle]

is the secondary fire good at longer ranges for surge staff?

[wispy pike]

It would be nice if they didn't just delete the interaction and just made it use charges

[bright mica]

I use Surge on my Creeping Flames + Warp Siphon build. I'd rather not sacrifice the ability to spam Shriek every few seconds for best bar none horde-clear over more damage.

[dim parrot]

besides maybe snipers

[bright mica]

It has limited range but it's a good 30 meters I believe.

23 meters*

just tested

[wispy pike]

Which is pretty good for a lot of things

[bright mica]

or 24m ish

[severe folio]

scrier gaze purg staff

is fukin craaazy

holy shit it turn the purg staff into the zealot flamer

[static needle]

no decreased dmg at range?

[bright mica]

Nope

[dim parrot]

hhhmmm but the way to scrier gaze I dont like

might try it out after the nerf tho

[severe folio]

i took the crit path

[bright mica]

I would recommend a horde-clear option as your ability/melee as Surge is terrible at that. I run Creeping Flames build with Warp Siphon to keep my cooldown low. Melee can work too with options like Illisi, Devil Claw Mk4, or Dueling Sword Mk4

[dim parrot]

illisi is my horde clear tool for melee, at the beginning I use little ol assail to give me ep and then dont touch it unless teammates get overwhelmed with horde

[bright mica]

I like running Creepy Flames as you don't actually spend any time "horde-clearing"

You just press F and instantly eviscerate a horde the size of an Ogryn frag bomb

Then you go straight back to zapping

[dim parrot]

cf is second upgrade to the scream right?

[bright mica]

Mhm

[wispy pike]

Cook em up

[bright mica]

Make sure to run it with Wildfire

[wispy pike]

Imagine screaming so loud at someone that they burst into flames

[dim parrot]

eh I rather want more range damage I think

[bright mica]

but yeah the horde-clear is insane. I run Combat Knife for mobility and self-defense + Surge for elite killing, only Creeping Flames for horde-clear and I end up massively top scoring on total kills everytime in Maelstrum

[severe folio]

wildfire has a lot of unexplained behavior that makes it not as good as it sounds (from pygex's guide)

• Only triggers after death animation. Most notably a bug.
• Needs at least 2 stacks on the target to spread the fire.
• Hard cap of 4. You cannot transfer more than 4 stacks total per dying target.
• Can only target enemies with 4 or less stacks. Enemies with 4 will just refresh in duration and consume a stack.
• Stacks are always spread evenly among suitable targets if possible.
• 5m radius from blazed target.
• Will be spread by corpses if they have been lit after death when the Soulblaze effect ends on them.

[bright mica]

Still worth on Creeping Flames, for 1 talent point you will end up spreading A LOT of extra damage across a horde

[river stirrup]

weapoon custom mod is client side right ?

[bright mica]

Yeah

All mods are

[dim parrot]

is it possible to see someone else using mods in game?

[severe folio]

No

[dim parrot]

hm

[keen slate]

Nice

[dim parrot]

then I saw a really rare skin maybe

[severe folio]

idk that wasp resistance is kind of bad

[wispy pike]

Hey that's my sword

[bright mica]

A lot of the parts from the customization mod are lifted from actual weapon skins

[keen slate]

why care

[bright mica]

YUM.

[bright mica]

Can be a good thing if you're using Shriek

[glossy ember]

just don't use warp attacks

[dim parrot]

things people allergic to wasps definitely need

[wispy pike]

Wasp attacks

[severe folio]

to use more warp attack ?

[bright mica]

True, with Shred you don't need to

[severe folio]

not using warp attack then might as well use a devil claw lol

[keen slate]

devil's claw damage is none

[severe folio]

what do you mean damage is none

[bright mica]

Nah Blazing Spirit at max tier can be pretty decent for farming Warp Siphon stacks

[dim parrot]

I want a shop where I can buy materials

[bright mica]

psyker mains want everything except playing the game

[dim parrot]

Im different, I want both

[bright mica]

XD

[glossy ember]

i only use warp attack if i need the infinite cleave or if i wanna kill something fast, most of the time i dont use it

[dim parrot]

honestly same

[spare shore]

Have you guys messed around with pure glass cannon builds?

[glossy ember]

doesnt build malefic momentum stacks too

[dim parrot]

if the target is too big, surge will do quick work

[glossy ember]

illisi is nice cuz it deals a bit more unyielding than devil claw

[severe folio]

so more boss damage

[glossy ember]

yea

it's not incredible

but better than bb spam i feel

[near wyvern]

Define pure glass cannon build

[severe folio]

how much warp generation is 44%

[glossy ember]

sah, it's when the tank is transparant, sah

[glossy ember]

should be close to 30% no?

[severe folio]

so double the normal generation

[near wyvern]

Why you take 2.5% peril to toughness when you can take 5% quell to toughness?

Especially when you have battle meditation

After that change you aren't a glass cannon anymore

Lmao

[near wyvern]

I accept this answer

[spare shore]

The idea was that scries gaze generates peril so ideally when throwing projectiles im always regenerating

[dim parrot]

I imagine an ogryn throwing little assail knives xD

[spare shore]

But I haven’t tested both to see which is better

[severe folio]

well if youre not going to manually quell any peril, i guess toughness gain on quelling dont matter

[near wyvern]

But battle mediation quells it so you get toughness anyways. AND you can pump up your peril with assails, dive in with melee and then when auto quell & battle meditation kicks in you have constant regen while in melee. Once peril is gone, back to assail.

[spare shore]

Im still quelling manually, its the difference between gaining toughness while attacking or in between

[severe folio]

battle meditation quell trigger quietude ?

[spare shore]

I-

[near wyvern]

If you want toughness while attacking just take soulstealer

[spare shore]

Didnt realize the two synergize

[dim parrot]

this is the way

[severe folio]

well, if theres another reason why they might not take quietude is because

save point and acquire perfect timing

[near wyvern]

The quell to toughness is quelling by any means:

• exorcist blessing
• battle meditation
• manual quelling
• auto quelling
• transfer peril
• venting shreik

[severe folio]

auto quelling also regenerate toughness ??

[ruby narwhal]

Any good?

[near wyvern]

Yes

With quell to toughness

[spare shore]

Game changing info, tytyty

[near wyvern]

Whenever your peril goes down you get half of the amount as toughness

[severe folio]

think the perks is bricked

[idle bay]

You can have build that have non-stop TH regen from multiple sources, TH DR, and a lot of TH.

And basically that...

[ruby narwhal]

😦

[idle bay]

Still there will be bullshit bleedthrough damage and bullshit one shots from BASIC trash...

[severe folio]

between battle meditation and perfect timing, which one is worth gaining over ?

[near wyvern]

Depends on the build

[severe folio]

scrier gaze purg

disrupt destiny

[ruby narwhal]

How about this?

[neat zenith]

hey i'm just looking for some advice on Warp Battery penance it kinda hard to mantain max stack even with 4 stack

[severe folio]

blessing should have Surge

[ruby narwhal]

what's surge?

[marble locust]

2 shots on crit

[near wyvern]

If you run purgatus during gaze why the heck you have DD?

[spare shore]

DD has so much potential but the way it decides which enemies to highlight seems broken

[severe folio]

the other 2 options dont seem to align with gaze, warp siph is botched, EP just dont do anything

[marble locust]

DD also doesn't target alot of mobs and Weakspot kills doesn't seem to proc it all the time as it is suppose to for stacks.

[ruby narwhal]

What should i have for Curios?

[marble locust]

2 Toughness 1 Health if you can manage melee.

[near wyvern]

Yeah but if your plan is to purge while in gaze you should definitely have Battle Mediation and then Warp Siphon with at least Inner Tranquility and In Fire Reborn.

Not for the CDR but for the peril reduction.

[marble locust]

If you are still learning to dance possibly 1 wounds instead

[bright mica]

Do y'all run Reality Anchor or Precognition for your Gaze builds?

[severe folio]

alright then

[spare shore]

Reality for purg, precog for assail (for mine at least)

[near wyvern]

DD boosts your damage, critical damage and weakspot damage. Purgatus cannot utilise the crit and weakspot bonuses properly from DD

[marble locust]

If I run Gaze it's a Melee build

[severe folio]

i see

[near wyvern]

This is the way

But

[severe folio]

i have the dueling sword

to handle carapace

[strong gulch]

This is the way.

But also laspistol. 😌

[marble locust]

I just go ham with gaze and this sword.

[dim parrot]

I cant dance

[near wyvern]

It is possible to do other goofy stuff, like gaze transfer peril void is usable, you just need to be extra careful after the horde starts to be almost gone

[spare shore]

I use melee 10% of the time, less ideally >.>

Lots of backdashing in my games

[near wyvern]

Well, we don't really have anything that actually would improve our melee damage. Kinetic Deflection is the only melee related talent we have.

[marble locust]

@dim parrot It's not that hard, it does depend on the weapon but the Psycher is the easiest to dance with.

[severe folio]

should i get perfect timing

[dim parrot]

no honestly, I cant dance, like actually dancing xD

[strong gulch]

The even sillier transfer peril (exorcist) blazing spirit sword with scrier's.

[dim parrot]

I can psyker tho

[marble locust]

@spare shore If you like to backdash get the MK5 dueling sword, dodging teleports you to next planet.

[near wyvern]

If you can afford it yes, it boosts your soulblaze damage and purgatus when built right crits often, but battle meditation is more important if you plan to gaze

[spare shore]

… ive been playing since launch and I didnt know different weapons have different dodge distances

[near wyvern]

Does it have enough crit chance without shred?

[marble locust]

@dim parrot No if you can move you can dance, you just look stupid doing it. Don't worry I look stupid too irl.

[spare shore]

Does the melee weapon affect the dodge of your blitz?

[marble locust]

Nope

[severe folio]

think this will work

actually i should swap onto assail

[near wyvern]

@strong gulch I have yet not seen any way to build a flame force sword that would beat out a direct damage version

[severe folio]

for a long range option on snipers

[marble locust]

Assail is a crutch I hate the idea of using it. I mostly use BB and then I only use it for snipers

[near wyvern]

Yeah no reason to bring smite with purge

[severe folio]

initially was so i could grab psychinetic aura

[near wyvern]

take assail and the increased hits, no need for increased regen since you gonna purge, unless you need the point elsewhere then just take base assail

[dim parrot]

indeed

[severe folio]

i was gonna just take one assail lol

[near wyvern]

Psychinetic Aura is more useful with shields and venting shreik

[severe folio]

and then get malefic momentum

[dim parrot]

how can u see your whole build again?

is that a mod or something?

[near wyvern]

With gaze you only need to pop it once during horde or monstrosity when you are doing it right, so you will always have it available even with no CDR things

[glossy ember]

there's a mod that shrinks ur tree

but you can also just use online sim

[dim parrot]

any good one?

[marble locust]

@near wyvern Why does it have to beat it out damage wise? The problem with the Blazing spirit, is crits kill trash and then don't proc the stacks or wildfire to move to them.

[severe folio]

i see

i thought i should pop gaze more often

[near wyvern]

Gameslantern has a darktide build editor that is much pleasant for the eyes

[cosmic nova]

worth buying? looks p good

[severe folio]

the game lantern build

oh i need to login their discord

[near wyvern]

Cause with direct damage version I am mainly referring to variants that run Slaughterer. Power increses your cleave as well so you are hitting more targets for more damage (on top of those that are instantly killed).

[bright mica]

Flak is good, decent Bloodletter. Modifiers are decent. Swap Sprint Eff for Maniacs and Wrath for Rampage.

Would be quite good on Veteran but rather average on Psyker. Still the bleed will offer good boss DPS.

[cosmic nova]

oh i actully thought wrath was the better blessing there?

ohhh fuck

[marble locust]

Honestly If I had a Illsi, I would probaly go Slaughterer and Exorcist for Perma Gaze build. If you keep weakspot hitting it quells, and I can hold Gaze a long time as it is without excorist this would make it rather permanent with mobs. Demios doesn't cleave well due to strikedown attacks.

[cosmic nova]

i got it confused with shred

nvm

[spare shore]

Thanks guys for the help btw! Ill have to post my support build later to get some feedback

[atomic zephyr]

I would. I use that for my elite/boss build. The bleed works great and i think wrath is the better cleave blessing than the other 2

[cosmic nova]

i mean savage sweep is much better than wrath aint it

[marble locust]

Depends on the situation weapon etc.

[severe folio]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a8875ac-4793-4fb1-9822-e814531f6551/experiment55?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button is there a recommend on improvement ?

[cold oasis]

best boss weapon?

[atomic zephyr]

Heavy swing on the chainsword is slow, you end up tanking hits from mobs before getting the hit in, and the cleave only last 2 secs, if you dodge often, its wasted imo

Wrath just helps cleave better with light hits and dodging

[marble locust]

Flamer staff probably then once full stacks switch to a melee weapon with 25% unyeilding.

[severe folio]

what is full stack from flamer

[glossy ember]

21 no?

[severe folio]

is it ?

how much stack does it apply per second ?

1 stack ?

[glossy ember]

i think there's a weird shriek interaction

where you go above the limit

[marble locust]

From weapons it quotes as 16 I don't know a hard number.

[strong gulch]

No extensive testing, but the fire generation seem decent (when compared to meme soulblaze word) if Scrier's is active. Otherwise, there isn't enough crit chance with shred.

This is an absolute meme.

Also, Exorcist and stright up quelling can't out pace scrier's peril generation after awhile.

[marble locust]

Generally the issue is going to be a lack of mobs than exorcist keeping up.

I laready run into this with the Demios the is running shred and Blazing spirit at times.

[strong gulch]

It's not for "viability" tho. It's for just cuz.

[bright mica]

guys I think Reality Anchor is broken this patch

It doesn't seem to work

I know it used to but the time and stacks gained is identical with it or without it

[dim parrot]

my build, I use Illisi and surge

[bright mica]

grab Creeping Flames

[dim parrot]

nooo

no room

[bright mica]

also this one is much better imho

Is this node actually vital for breakpoints

[dim parrot]

I guess overall range damage? assail/surg?

[bright mica]

That is NOT worth it over Creeping Flames bruh

[dim parrot]

elite as in any special?

[bright mica]

anything you can mark

on Damnation and especially Auric missions you will get a lot of these back using Surge

[marble locust]

Elites =/= Specials

[bright mica]

My bad just tested, this is true

[dim parrot]

imma give it a try I guess

[bright mica]

You won't get any out of these guys

but Shotgunners, Ragers, Reapers, Crushers, Maulers, Gunners, Bulwarks will give you one

Hmm I guess its difficulty dependent

on Auric you'll do better on Elite kills

[marble locust]

It's working but not like you think it does

I just proced up Gaze and Immediately charge and do a BB, with it 40 % without 54%

It affects other things that peril not the gaze specifically.

[bright mica]

Ah, so it doesn't extend your Gaze anymore?

It used to extend the duration itself

That sucks, I guess for Gunpsykers its a nobrainer to choose Precog

[marble locust]

I keep it up honestly with the -10% peril on kill and -5% peril nodes

[trail mulch]

hey guys, the penance about killing a monstrosity with 90% brain burst, is that doable with the improved brain burst? "brain rupture"?

[marble locust]

I would assume so but you ahve to have a premade, and preferably a Bulwark orgyn

[trail mulch]

yeah, thats me

I tank

[severe folio]

you are only holding 3 psionic, and you are still getting it passively from killing

so dont worry about not getting them via doggo

its not like you will shuffle through all 3 psionic at once

right ?

oh wait youre using assail

[dim parrot]

u still talking about me ? :o

[severe folio]

yeah

[dim parrot]

only use it to get ep and to help out teammates when the horde overwhelms them

or for sniper sniping

mostly use sword and staff

[severe folio]

then

why EP

[dim parrot]

surg strong

[severe folio]

it will be patched

[dim parrot]

I know

[glossy ember]

aight the time where not having kinetic deflection fucks me up is when i have boss aggro

[dim parrot]

but until then

[severe folio]

it wont feel the same

[dim parrot]

I know

[severe folio]

you might get too reliant on it

it will mess with your play you know

[dim parrot]

nah I can adapt quickly

[severe folio]

how many surge strike do you need to kill a crusher without EP

[dim parrot]

oof

[glossy ember]

3-4? i think

[dim parrot]

crusher was what again?

[severe folio]

and how many can you do it with EP

[glossy ember]

i gotta check again

[severe folio]

the guy with carapace and hammer

[dim parrot]

4

[severe folio]

and how many

with EP

[dim parrot]

2

[severe folio]

yeah

[dim parrot]

sometimes 1

[severe folio]

its gonna mess with your game sense

and in a squad its def gonna just take 1

because everyone else is hammering on them

it will mess with your game sense

[dim parrot]

[severe folio]

highly recommend to not try and get use to it

[dim parrot]

I will try

[severe folio]

because it will feel very sad when its gone

[dim parrot]

although I think with warp charges it can also be quiet strong

[glossy ember]

3 with crits

by that i mean one crit

[severe folio]

i think you should use warp siph

you have vent shriek, and your illisi i assume have

blazing spirit ?

[bright mica]

2

[dim parrot]

nope, uncanny and slaughterer

[glossy ember]

i kept critting but

[severe folio]

oh

[bright mica]

On my 25% carapace

[severe folio]

well its fine then

[glossy ember]

like 1 crit and you do 3 surges to kill one

[dim parrot]

ok with 6 warp it can 3 tap crushers

[bright mica]

Without -> With on my build. Pretty big difference but I am not gonna use it cus bug and also I have better places to allocate talent points

I'm sure if I grabbed 10% Elite on my Surge or some other damage magnifier I could two shot it with EP without crits

[glossy ember]

you also get to use more surges since less peril generation

[dim parrot]

I guess so

[glossy ember]

so can take on more elites at the same time

before needing to quell

[dim parrot]

might use this when bug is fixed

[glossy ember]

just go for it now

warp siphone is goated

[dim parrot]

nah imma have fun until its gone xD
thx 4 the advice tho, appreciate it siblings

[bright mica]

I'm a big fan of having 12 seconds cooldown on my Shriek by running Warp Siphon instead :P

spam goes brrrrr

[dim parrot]

actually ran a similar build with warp before discovering the bug ^^

was fun indeed

[bright mica]

I discovered the bug and Imma still run Warp Siphon instead Sorry that Psykerheimer is too good

[dim parrot]

similar to this?

[near wyvern]

Change mind in motion into soulstealer (defensive) or perilous combustion (offensive). Mind in Motion is not needed here, learn the movement techs.

[severe folio]

PC seem kinda redundant with purg no ?

[steel flame]

you can never have to much fire

it spikes hard

[near wyvern]

Not really, PC has no max cap limit so once you get your first few kills on an elite pack the rest (especially crushers and monstrosities) will gather a giga load of stacks. At that point you start hitting heads with your melee (which should be one with uncanny strike) you get some crazy results.

[rare storm]

What movement techs are there?

[near wyvern]

Check Atheneum and keep in mind staves get lesser movement penalty while quelling.

The first most obvious one is use your dodges while quelling.

Mind in Motion has only 2 reasons to be picked:

• you need to cross over it to access venting shreik (with creeping flames)
• you are planning to spam Smite harder than Zeus

[rare storm]

Ah I thought there was something new found

[severe folio]

i see

[dim parrot]

fire

insinde the mountain

[bright mica]

No... Where tf is your Creeping Flames bruh

[dim parrot]

swap out assail upgrade for it maybe ?

[bright mica]

I run this with Surge Staff and Combat Knife

[near wyvern]

Well I mean it has the global 31 soulblaze stacks so not completely infinite but at that point it's dealing 250 base damage per tick so 333.333 DPS before armour and bonuses

[near wyvern]

Yes definitely, creeping flames is super strong. Get to 85% peril and ult for a lotta damage.

[glossy ember]

warp siphon surge staff is fun

[bright mica]

If you really want Assail I guess this works

[near wyvern]

I would switch the peril gen toughness into mettle, gives you toughness on melee as well and movement speed whenever you crit, which happens often since both combat blade and surge staff have increased base crit chance.

Surge staff procs it twice when it crits cause Mettle has no internal cooldown so that's 10% toughness per RMB crit right there.

[glossy ember]

even with 1 less dodge this is unironically pretty freaking good

or maybe devil claw 4 is just broken

also managed to tank a chaos spawn with just parries without kinetic deflect

[bright mica]

Likely a better idea ty

[near wyvern]

It has a good move set. I would swap unarmoured for flak as devil's claw struggles a bit with flak.

[glossy ember]

does assail make use of both of its nodes

cuz you could remove one and get the 5% crit node

[glossy ember]

I put in unarmoured because my surge has flak

but i haven't tried out the uh

breakpoints

tbh

[near wyvern]

You should have seen Devil's Claw 4 on the previous patch

It was glorious

[glossy ember]

i started playing psyker on patch 14 lol

[near wyvern]

I have been playing it since closed beta 😅

[glossy ember]

same but oggy

[near wyvern]

I still want shotguns

[glossy ember]

well i took a long ass break though

hm, without +25% flak, I deal 480 damage on crit to a bruiser's head

with 6 warp siphon stacks

not sure the 25% flak would help reach 680 damage or w/e their hp is

688 on a crit with h1

523 non crit

[near wyvern]

Bruiser head? Mauler head is carapace

Or you mean Dreg Bruiser?

[glossy ember]

nvm just hit 688 damage with a headshot crit h2

without flak

[glossy ember]

dreg bruiser yeah

[near wyvern]

Try H1 versus scab ragers

[glossy ember]

for maulers i surge staff

[near wyvern]

Does it change hits to kill

[glossy ember]

aren't ragers maniac

or you mean

[near wyvern]

Dreg ragers are maniac, scab ragers are flak

[glossy ember]

anoter mob

[ripe crater]

The most passive assail build, and pretty effective. Generally, you don't use shriek at all. Just spam assail and switch to void (or w/e you want) when needed. Good crits (True Aim delivers most of those) and having uncanny strike/handcannon blessings is a big plus.

[ripe crater]

Actually made a mistake, should be the damage aura

[glossy ember]

4shs+1 attack for a flak kill

623 per h1 crit, 523 non crit

but welle for flak ragers I also just switch to surge staff

since it's like a 2 shot

[near wyvern]

Why on earth would you use +5% elite damage aura?

[near wyvern]

Fair enough

[glossy ember]

yeah i don't think i'd benefit from flak here since even the worst flak trash (bruiser) should die if I crit and have 6 stacks, or needs 2 heavies (but without crit the 25% wouldn't cover it)

lemme switch to 25% flak

and test it

[near wyvern]

The thing with +armour type perks is that they are multiplicative bonuses

So they usually give quite a lot of oomph

Only if Devil's Claw had uncanny as well, would be juicy

[ripe crater]

Can go for Gaze and the crit aura instead, but since this build is focused on not using ult at all.

My current surge abuse build. Loving it.

[glossy ember]

653 h1, 456(603 crit)h2

so can't reach the one shot breakpoint either way

not having unarmoured does make me not able to one shot h2 the uh... the guy next the bruiser in psykhenarium

[bright mica]

wow what the fuck

[near wyvern]

Definitely go for gaze and crit aura, the +5% is only for elites not specials, the description is another lie

[bright mica]

I decided to disable steam overlay

I've never had the game run this smoothly

wtf

[ripe crater]

I know, and it got nerfed into uselessness. But I prefer shriek for emergencies

[glossy ember]

will try this thanks for the tip

[near wyvern]

Scab Bruiser

[wispy pike]

Get bruised

[ripe crater]

And i'm also egoistic, so why use an aura I won't have much use out of myself?

[glossy ember]

ok yeah that guy

[near wyvern]

Well certainly

[glossy ember]

flak does let me 1hs h2 the small ranged units though

unarmoured didn't let me do that

[bright mica]

damn wish I knew earlier

[distant roost]

what even is steam overlay]

[glossy ember]

Flak rager: 3hs 1 bodyshot

[near wyvern]

Oh boi

[glossy ember]

so it's improved but not by much

[ripe crater]

Can also disable it for only this game. Which might be preferable to some people. (Right click on Darktide in your steam library and go to Properties.)

[glossy ember]

aight i think i'll stick with unarmoured

good labbing though

all tests were done at 6stacks warp siphon btw

[bright mica]

Yup thats what I did :P

[trail mulch]

there os mp play nittpm there is no okay button*

[glossy ember]

my message was in answer to 25% flak on devil claw lol

over 25% unarmoured

[trail mulch]

it improved my 1% lows incredibly good.

I deactivated CFG (control flow guard) and gained like 33% from 90 fps to easy 120

[tawny raptor]

assail still the best?

[trail mulch]

assail is a crutch (IMHO)

that also teaches bad playstyle.

[tawny raptor]

real

i get what you mean

but number wise

yknow what i mean

[trail mulch]

still breddy good

[orchid shadow]

Even number wise, it still not the best.

[trail mulch]

combine it with a revolver

[plain locust]

Smite + surge

[tawny raptor]

what is?

[orchid shadow]

Sorry, let me clarify that. It'll do the most damage by itself of the 3 available. But it's not in a vaccum. What's your loadout?

[strong gulch]

2 psykers with walls, a vet, and a thamer zealot was an easy fecking run.

[tawny raptor]

im runnin a duelling sword for sure but everything else im changing

ive been playing assail for a while so i wanted to change it up

[severe folio]

what have you been using assail for

[orchid shadow]

If all you're gonna do is spam it for numbers, then it's a bad habit.

[tawny raptor]

see horde, press G, throw shit

basically that

[severe folio]

so its for horde

i guess you can find a secondary firearm that handle horde for you

[bright mica]

Dueling Sword should already be enough for horde tbh, but Assail does help

[severe folio]

and switch to a different blitz if you want

[bright mica]

I run almost exclusively Smite lately, just a 1 point investment and you get some of the best emergency CC in the game.

[tawny raptor]

what stave staff thing do you use with smite?

[bright mica]

Voidstrike and Surge. Walls with Voidstrike and Creeping Flames Shriek with Surge.

[tawny raptor]

bet

thanks man

[ripe crater]

Is that a windows process?

[trail mulch]

Press Windows button, enter "Exploit" into the search line

[trail mulch]

it checks wether your ram has been tempered with

so DO NOT DEACTIVATE IT GLOBALLY!

Just for Darktide

but it also seems to be a AMD X3D issue

[strong gulch]

Love how fire trauma and PC can passively get you second most monster damage while focusing on non-monster things.

[trail mulch]

because we have so much L3 Cache

[severe folio]

you use fire trauma on bosses ?

[ripe crater]

Just darktide.exe then right?

[strong gulch]

Bon bon for sure.

But while focusing on mobs and specials, the soulblaze adds up.

[trail mulch]

yes, but it worked for me on remnant 2 as well

bnut be fucking careful

[ripe crater]

Yea I think it did well for Hogwarts Legacy as well

[severe folio]

i see

[ripe crater]

Still no big noticeable differences, nor with steam overlay disabled.

But I play on 4k with an ancient 1080 Ti

[trail mulch]

don't badmouth the 1080Ti!"

[near wyvern]

Monstrosities tend to spawn a lot of elites & specials with them at least on higher difficulties. You usually need 2-3 persons to handle the ads and 1-2 persons on the monstrosity / boss.

[ripe crater]

I would never

It's still one of the best value cards

[near wyvern]

Smite (enfeeble) spam on boss / Trauma spam on boss / Purge spam on boss is a viable tactic when you can help a tiny bit with the boss while controlling the ads around it.

[near wyvern]

1080Ti served me well. Only gave it up when 4090 was released.

[ripe crater]

It has allowed me to play any game I've wanted to in 4k. Albeit not always on the highest settings, and resolution scaling and upscaling techniques came in the nick of time, allowing me to continue to enjoy "4k".

If I was in a better financial situation, now would also be the time for me to upgrade. 2xxx series was a joke and 3xxx series still not enough of an upgrade.

But 4090's cost €2k over here.

[devout sentinel]

nvidia pricing is a fucking joke when the 4090 is the "best value"

it's so fucked

[near wyvern]

This is what happens when you have no real competition

[ripe crater]

Yea it is, don't believe such words. Those are paid reviews and ignorant people

Unless I get rich soon, it'll probably be a 5070 or something I'll eventually have to upgrade to.

[rare storm]

I mean I've been running a 2080ti, it has treated me very well

Then again it was a bit pricey at the time

better than the 1070 I was running lol

[ripe crater]

But just type in google 1080 ti vs 4090 and you get userbenchmark showing the 1080 ti still gives better value for money. Though, the price stated there doesn't seem realistic. I'm pretty sure I can sell my 2nd hand one, 7-8 year old one, for more than €343.

[strong gulch]

Disability representation. Love to see it.

[ripe crater]

Oh yea that is a fine card ofc. But for a whole new generation being only marginally better than the last one, certainly not worth upgrading to.

[strong gulch]

Noice. Hadron gave me infernus 4.

[rare storm]

Ehhhh my 1070 was a hand me down from a friend and I wanted to do a build on my own so it was a fun, although pricey, project

but yeah the current upgrades are sad to go up to

[rare storm]

hadron being nice? blasphemy

[strong gulch]

Don't worry. I just dumped all of my ordo on a white. Hadron will brick it.

[rare storm]

shiii all the best

[strong gulch]

It's going mid but I ran out of plasteel. Gotta get more.

[near wyvern]

Slap on dumdum and watch monstrosities melt if you can aim

[stray warren]

What staff/gun do ya'll usually run with smite?

[wheat storm]

how tf do i get a good laz-pistol bruh, every other weapon is so shitty that it is unplayable

i aint even getting a good staffs

everything is just a recon lazgun akkatan

[strong gulch]

tis the plan

[feral seal]

I prefer void, it kinda does everything and still has the ability to special snipe

Surge is the other good pick with no aim pressure but lower range and single target only

And if you want to play gun, play a different class

[orchid shadow]

Is Enfeeble activating from Surge as well with the EP bug? Or is it just the 125%?

[orchid shadow]

You have to save up a little to raid the Brunt's armory for the weapon type you want.

[silver ermine]

dump stat for duell mk4 is mobility or cleave dmg?

[feral seal]

Cleave I think?

[strong gulch]

Well that was silly. The dog and I were both being squirrly. I lost my mind dodge sliding while the dog would jump over me. Instead of killing it, I was just stuck in a loop. Then the doggo got me.

[near wyvern]

Just the EP 125% and smite +1 target upgrade. It seems Surge staff RMB under the hood shares a template with Smite LMB.

[rare storm]

How did you manage to find team mates who wouldn't ruin the fun

[strong gulch]

They were busy. 🥰

[rare storm]

Ah the only way

[strong gulch]

The best was when I had a knife and I was dodge sliding around a pillar with a mutant. IDK who was chasing who, but everyone stood around watching.

[wheat storm]

what's that

im only starting playing

rank 21 psyker rn

[rare storm]

The guy who you buy weapons from that resets every hour

You can instead buy base weapons from him to aim for good distributions

You gotta stock up at least 200k dockets to get a pretty decent base

For me at least.. There are lucky mofos out there

[upbeat parcel]

what qualifies as warp attack?

I know blitz skills do but

do staves count?

[rare storm]

Anything that causes you to gain perill

With the exception of soulblaze, which do count as warp attacks but don't directly cause perill gain (outside of the purg staff)

[upbeat parcel]

alright cool, thanks sibling

[rare storm]

[frank fulcrum]

Don't worry about gambling away dockets at brunts rn tho, wait until you're lvl 30

Gives you the best chance of good stat distribution

[near wyvern]

Not enough at times

[rare storm]

Hence "at least"

[near wyvern]

Any attack that (normally) generates peril and soulblaze effect itself

[wheat storm]

k

[rare storm]

Could've bought cool ass colour variations cosmetcis instead but gamba

[bright mica]

nnngnhhngmh I figured out how to get 1 extra talent point while getting +5% toughness damage reduction in my build

🤤

[upbeat parcel]

doesn't hurt to have the extra ordo dockets passive on your curios if ur broke

[frank fulcrum]

I could've had my docket Gucci at this point

[bright mica]

good to have on a docket farming setup

[strong gulch]

I got the sword skin.

Ignore the dot.

[barren atlas]

does it include uncharged force sword attacks?

[bright mica]

No

[wheat storm]

btw, what is the best way to farm plasteel? or how is it named

[plucky flax]

Quickplay regular damnation and pick all the plasteels.

[bright mica]

I'd probably say regular Damnation if you can handle it

Yup

[frank fulcrum]

Damnation runs and being a plasteel goblin

[wheat storm]

bet

[wheat storm]

i am already..

[frank fulcrum]

Aka, checking every single corner and chest you see

[plucky flax]

Mfw I top plasteels picked every single game.

[strong gulch]

Run missions and look around for them.

Non-spicy T5 missions.

[upbeat parcel]

getting scriptures is good too

[ripe crater]

Being high skill ceiling zealot and speedrunning for 700 plasteel in 20 min, consistently

[strong gulch]

The most important stat.

[bright mica]

How do you calculate toughness resistance from multiple sources?

[plucky flax]

Some people just flat out ignore plasteels right next to them.

And I have to run to their spot to pick that plasteels.

I'm like

[ripe crater]

It's very common on auric

[plucky flax]

Auric maelstrom whatever I am checking all the plasteels spot.

Plasteels ain't picking themselves up.

[strong gulch]

I saw someone stop, look at an unopened box, and just walk away.

I can;t

[bright mica]

I have 3x5% nodes, 20% from Gaze and 10%-33% from One with the Warp which I don't even wanna think about 💀

[plucky flax]

Yeah like they open a box, a plasteel pickup and ammo side by side.

They pick ammo but ignore plasteels.

[strong gulch]

HOW

WTF

WHY

😭

[frank fulcrum]

It has to have diminishing returns, but idk if anyone has calculated it

[plucky flax]

I'm starving for plasteels now. I'm down to 4k. 😦

[near wyvern]

No, they don't generate any peril and they are not soulblaze effect

[strong gulch]

Emp gave me pinning fire 4. Glad I finally got it (after the nerf).

[bright mica]

Ooh

[frank fulcrum]

4k

[plucky flax]

Columbus infantry autogun sorta took over the spot of autopistol now.

[ripe crater]

Stopped my quest for a revolver with handcannon blessing (Spend 2 weeks+ on trying to get that. Any handcannon blessing. Didn't.) so now I am hoarding again.

[near wyvern]

It's a good question and immeasurably complex to calculate as many systems have hidden diminishing returns that start to kick in once you stack enough of them

[bright mica]

So with only 3 on my build I have no diminishing returns for 35%. I'm gonna just give myself a lowballed average of 12.5% from One with the Warp for 47.5%

[bright mica]

So with 171 toughness that gives me... hnrnrhgh I hate math ughhh like 360 effective toughness I think?

Explains why my Gunsyker feels like a damn freight train

[plucky flax]

Damn so much toughness. How much hp do you have?

1 poxburster and you're probably on last wound.

[bright mica]

165

so you're not too wrong, but eh

[plucky flax]

Ouch. Heavy risk.

[bright mica]

I just don't get poxburst :P

[plucky flax]

You're a better player than me.

[bright mica]

I run Damnation Auric exclusively and maybe get a poxburster once every 3 games

to actually graze me

helps that I'm running Smite on this build which completely fucks them

[bright mica]

This is still less crazy than my pure durability Ogryn build. Let me do some quick math on that one

+10%
+10%
up to 60% from Delight in Destruction
+10%
up to 60% from Won't Give In (mostly ignore this though)
+25% from Feel No Pain
on a base of 237 toughness lol

I'm running chained hits on Mk4 Cleaver and have withstood 8 Gunners and a Sniper bouncing me around while stabbing away without them ever breaking my shield (I only have 15% resistance to each)

[distant roost]

some people think that you only get what you pick up...

i was shocked to say the least

[willow escarp]

the only 10% toughness on kill node for heavy hitter goes hard too

combined with best defense you can get full toughness per swing in horde lol

[bright mica]

Yanno what, I'm gonna grab it

[willow escarp]

The wording in the description is wrong

[bright mica]

Interesting

[willow escarp]

It says it increases toughness by 10% but it increases it to 10%, so a 100% increase

[orchid shadow]

It's weird that this problem has been around forever. At this point, they should just make it autopickup if you so much even breath on it.

[distant roost]

ye

also yall, what curios you runnin?

[plucky flax]

I am doing 2 hp 1 toughness. 2x sniper resist, 3x toughness regen.

[distant roost]

valid

[bright mica]

I run 2 toughness 1 wound on every humie

[bright mica]

Toughness Regen only applies to Coherency btw

[glossy ember]

wait really, lmao

that's nuts

[bright mica]

It's only worth it on Ogryn imho

otherwise I'd grab extra toughness/hp/resistances

[distant roost]

wait huh?

[plucky flax]

Yep I know.

[bright mica]

Ah oki, just saying cus many ppl dont

[plucky flax]

I run 3x toughness regen on psyker, zealot, and ogryn.

[distant roost]

wait so

does it affect your own tough regen or nah

[plucky flax]

Yeah it does.

[glossy ember]

idk, doesn't sound bad to me at all on any char so long as you stay in coherency. Not much else to take anyway

[plucky flax]

It also shortens the delay before your toughness starts to regen when in coherency.

[distant roost]

oh ok bet

[bright mica]

Ogryn get Lynchpin which you can stack with Toughness Regen Speed perks for call of duty tier toughness recovery lol

[glossy ember]

funniest part is the least tough ogryn build can still withstand double what other classes can lmao

[plucky flax]

Zealot can be very tanky too.

[bright mica]

I mean yeah, there's unavoidable 10% toughness nodes

[bright mica]

All of their abilities give toughness back :P

Veteran with Infiltrate is practically unkillable too

[glossy ember]

technically you could go for "only" 20%, and 90 toughness

[plucky flax]

I've never played stealth vet. If I want to stealth I play zealot.

Also right now the vet shout is way too op not to use it.

[distant roost]

best ones ive been running.

the wound is sometimes swapped wsith a +20% hp one but im unsure of its use

[bright mica]

Stealth Infiltrator is nutty because of the -90% threat talent

Basically makes your stealth last 2x longer

[plucky flax]

Never ran camo pre 13 too.

[bright mica]

You also get back all toughness on stealth and can hold two charges

[plucky flax]

I don't like it. It makes it tough on teammates when the bois are in melee.

[bright mica]

Nah because you use it to set yourself up for Raking Fire

[plucky flax]

Crusher instant switch agro mid overhead.

[bright mica]

+40% damage to backs

5 Crushers? Just Infil, start blazing away on their asses before they even reach your team

It lets you also focus on special sniping without any random poxwalker biting your ass

[plucky flax]

I play my special sauce melee vet build in melee maelstrom.

[bright mica]

used effectively you can let your team handle trash and kill any threat before it reaches them

[plucky flax]

Antax + revolver.

And the shout ult.

[bright mica]

Ever since I've found how powerful the push attack is on that one Power Sword I've found it difficult to stop using it

3 headshots Crushers 😭

While being a Psword so yanno... insane horde-clear

[plucky flax]

For a more melee set up I am still more comfortable with an antax.

Since zealot is my main so I've had a lot of experience with combat axe.

[bright mica]

It's alright, I don't like its speed

okay holy shit

nvm 3 headshots

I dont even have power cycler on this thing

[plucky flax]

My antax build on vet has 15% attack speed talent.

[bright mica]

Let me OBS this shit so you believe me

[plucky flax]

I know it I have a power sword 6 with power cycler.

Push attack then light attack follow up on crusher head does big damage.

[glossy ember]

👀 good info for my future stealth vet

[plucky flax]

But in melee maelstrom when it's like 10 crushers and 5 bulwarks walking toward you though power sword mobility becomes sus,

[bright mica]

ignore my stream interface

damnation

[copper torrent]

Is your sword not able to hit bp to use the follow up strike down?

[arctic roost]

is there a blazing spirit 4?

[bright mica]

I'm still waiting for Melk to give my PCycler 4

[copper torrent]

Can't you do it without?

I thought i watched angrycrab do without power cycler

[hearty sedge]

Pub damnation is pain

[fresh reef]

I forgot how much I truly loved Psykentic's Wrath with Ascending Blaze

[hearty sedge]

Pull 60% damage with voidstrike cheese and still get overhwelmed.

[bright mica]

You need at least Power Cycler 3 to do the follow up

[fresh reef]

melts hordes, staggers specials like trappers and the like when you can kill them quickly, can save a hound-pinned teammate through 29 meters of solid wall

[upper shard]

so when did fatshark decide that krieg sabres look like they do in the new cosmetic

[fresh reef]

it's just so versatile

[copper torrent]

I... think you are wrong

[ornate hamlet]

yes very light

[bright mica]

I'm not

[copper torrent]

I'll have to find the video.

[bright mica]

brother

[copper torrent]

Okay wana bet?

[bright mica]

Yes

go on

do it

you do in fact need Power Cycler to attack more than once with the special mode

[ornate hamlet]

here it looks almost historic to real world british sabers

[orchid shadow]

Really? I find it super fun, especially when you get the weird team comps that can swing either way, like 4 psykers. It can be either really good, or reaaaaally bad.

[bright mica]

go on try it yourself

[ornate hamlet]

nothing like darktide

[upper shard]

it looks like any historic sabre

and it is meant to

[upper shard]

that is the point. it is ceremonial

[copper torrent]

Ah you are right. Power cycler brut momentum elite

[upper shard]

just like their uniforms looking like 1800-1900

[bright mica]

should've bet 20 dollars and bought myself doordash

[ornate hamlet]

well. more like 1500-1900

[ornate hamlet]

they had stopped with plate armor long before 1800

around 1600 or so

[upper shard]

i meant the clothing style. that is also not true

it was just very weird and modular

my point is: the new sabre has nothing to do with krieg whatsoever

[tame venture]

of these three force swords, which is the most worthwhile to try to build out? or should i not bother and just try to go for a better roll?

[upper shard]

and i am sad

[ornate hamlet]

well guns became prevalent around 1600, making plate armor obsolete in the process of introduction of these firearms

[upper shard]

mostly yes

[wide galleon]

what do those words mean

[upper shard]

but if you look up "plate armour in 1800" etc you will find some interesting stuff

[wide galleon]

wayyy too hip for me

[upper shard]

no doubt it was not the norm anymore

[ornate hamlet]

now in what situations would that be implemented into an army strategy after 1600's?

[upper shard]

protection

[ornate hamlet]

against what?

[upper shard]

look it up. i have no high stakes in this

i just know it was a thing

bullets literally

[ornate hamlet]

doesnt help at all

[upper shard]

otherwise we can get rid of helmets right now can we not?

[fresh reef]

You wouldn't know ya damn greenbrain

[upper shard]

please just check google. you will see

[ornate hamlet]

nope, kevlar from modern day helmets and hardened steel are not synonymous with each other in spessification and utility

[upper shard]

also look up the kelly gang for a laugh. it is a very interesting western outlaw from history

[ornate hamlet]

understood

[upper shard]

the stahlhelm, german thing, is one of the most famous helmets in modern history

it is also made of, the name may give this way, steel

plate armour was absolutely present but absolutely not much represented due to being much less useful as you correctly said

almost exclusively helmets

[ornate hamlet]

they were not very efficient at stopping bullets, to be fair

at least from what i can recall hearing, im by no meas a historian

[upper shard]

neither am i

normal plate armour was kind of thin so it would probably not just halt a bullet flying at it directly

but bullets often do not hit you at the 90 degree angle

its for deflecting shots that are not 90°

that is what i assume

anyway we are really clogging psyker chat with this historic armour topic

my whole point was: the new psyker cosmetic is nonsense and should not be called death korps sabre

if somebody can prove me wrong on that, i would love it because it would make me actively happy for being able to buy a death korps themed sabre

but i could not find anything

[silk hawk]

uuuuuuuuhhhh...

[strong gulch]

What things used to be called.

[ornate hamlet]

hey don't be mean to Korpsman!😠😡🫀 💢

[silk hawk]

😂

[strong gulch]

I'd wait for a better base. Mobility and warp resist are dump stats.

[glossy ember]

anyone got a 10% mobility force sword? I wonder at which point you actually lose a dodge

[silk hawk]

by that moment i think this is how my average lobby looks like

[tame venture]

👍

[spare shore]

Having trouble figuring out why I would go gun psyker when veteran exists
Can anyone explain what makes it different/better?

[glossy ember]

veterans aren't schizofrenic, so it's only half as fun

[kind jay]

its psyker

automatically better

[strong gulch]

Idk about about better. I haven't played vet.

I am not going to level a whole other class just to shoot a gun.

I will level a whole other psyker for a different shirt color tho.

[rare storm]

Schizo magic man with shoot shoot

Why not

[spare shore]

I mean fair enough

[silk hawk]

nothing, its just psyker fanboys fking around until they find out...

[cloud heron]

what're people using for curio perks?

[strong gulch]

Also, schizophrenia is not the only thing that causes auditory hallucinations.

Slinging the short hand around is gross. I don't care if it's canonical to 40k.

[spare shore]

Well its also not actual schizophrenia, its literally the warp/daemons invading their minds

IIRC

[glossy ember]

health/sniper/toughness regen seems to be the popular choice.

I personally run health/blocking efficiency/toughness regen.

[west smelt]

How's this for Disrupt Destiny/Scrier's Gaze gunsyker?

[clear heath]

outdated words 😔

[still hearth]

Toughness regen on Psyker

Do you guys not take the top nodes

[clear heath]

I don't bother with regen curios either

[chrome linden]

i hve 3 green curios. all 3 are +1 wound and +10% currency

[still hearth]

Unless you're running gunpsyker I'd never run toughness regen perks

You can regen to full at any time with most staves

[silk hawk]

toughness regen is good on any blass BUT psyker XD

i would recommend sniper resist instead

[chrome linden]

+toughness

+tougness regen

+stamina

+stamina regen

go for the memes

[still hearth]

Or Zealot. Or Ogryn.

They both can just generate toughness for free as well

Ogryn toughness regen is a funny meme though

Vet can use it decently but I've never felt it was worth it

[tame venture]

either of these a better base for building up? i just dumped like 100k credits buying a bunch for probably not much gain lol

[glossy ember]

idk man i just read the pins and roll with that

[still hearth]

Fair

[tame venture]

actually in general, how important is a high base stats rating, vs an 'optimal' balance?

[strong gulch]

I'd roll the 378 currently equipped one.

[tame venture]

👍

[still hearth]

Base rating matters less than the spread

[tame venture]

obviously having an awful spread kills it regardless

[strong gulch]

The type of answers you're going to get here are min/max most damage geared toward the more difficult end game content.

[still hearth]

It's a double balance

You want high enough base rating

And good spread

A perfect spread 320 can be way better than a bad 360

[tame venture]

yeah i guess it's an argument of when is one more signifigant than the other

[glossy ember]

What if I don't use sniper resist? Should I just go 5% toughness?

[tame venture]

gunner resist ?

[still hearth]

Revive Speed is legit

[silk hawk]

on psyker :'D? better go for +hp then

[strong gulch]

But also depending on the weapon, you can have a low-ish base rating and that weapon still be great.

You can have 380 be basically garbage with the wrong dump stat.

[copper torrent]

It's not awful. It is merely "good". Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. Unless you already have a good one and are chasing a god roll.

[silk hawk]

i also use combat ability cdr on my relics

but thats a not popular mod as far as i know

[plucky flax]

I am top 1% psyker and I use it. Checkmate.

[still hearth]

You got me there.

[plucky flax]

[tame venture]

rough roll i think?

[stuck bridge]

how do you even tell a statistic like that

[tame venture]

not enough plasteel for orange tier :/

[strong gulch]

Uncanny is good

[plucky flax]

Why a random guy told me I was really good.

[stuck bridge]

lmfao

[plucky flax]

That's the proof.

[hollow jolt]

the most amount of peril explosions = top psyker

[strong gulch]

legit

[still hearth]

That happened for me too

[hollow jolt]

that simple

[still hearth]

But on Veteran

[rare storm]

Valid

[still hearth]

[stuck bridge]

👍 cant deny that

[tame venture]

is there an uncanny strike tier4?

[still hearth]

Yes

[rare storm]

Yes

[plucky flax]

Check here.

[still hearth]

It doesn't do much rn

[plucky flax]

Psy was good. Top 1%.

[still hearth]

Since rending caps at 100%

[tame venture]

i still need to grind out all my blessings 😔

the high tier ones are going to be rough

[stuck bridge]

🤠

[strong gulch]

A high af guy playing an ogryn was really excited about the warpfire I was spreadding everywhere. IDK how that is rates me.

[tame venture]

as "based"

[strong gulch]

I rate myself as mid

[stuck bridge]

what's with the purg players recently? i havent dug into what/why it's strong

[strong gulch]

IDK. Maybe they got bored of the other options?

[silk hawk]

i thought u are on a potato level...

[strong gulch]

GOOD POINT

[still hearth]

It's not that strong rn since other options are cracked

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-potato-gif-20698539

[still hearth]

They need to bring down the horde clear of other options

Or make purgatus hurt big targets

[next mist]

https://youtu.be/QZnZVpEC6RA?si=GIKZtbzpInPBGr0r

[still hearth]

But it's still the best horde clear weapon in many situations

[silk hawk]

but purgatus can hurt big targets, u just gona stack uncanny straight after u stack burn on biggies XD

[still hearth]

Just that trauma does better in some

And voidstrike isn't bad

[strong gulch]

I swear the purg LMB feels like it staggers less.

[still hearth]

This basically only does anything to crushers

[still hearth]

A lot of enemies got their stagger values increased

So yeah

[strong gulch]

I thought so

[still hearth]

It can still stagger anything below a crusher

But it's not as good

[silk hawk]

i am using surge from the start of times, it never disappoint me XD

autotargeting - check
decent dmg - check
amazing CC - check
decent range - check
fast to use - check

kekw

[harsh urchin]

Well it's gonna be pretty dog

Once it gets bugfixed

[silk hawk]

but i use it wiithout bug XD

[glossy ember]

i already run that

[glossy ember]

it somehow sounds a lot worse than toughness gen or sniper resist.

[glossy ember]

not that great for me since I have warp siphon so I already have low cd. I don't use my shields on cd either since i dont wanna constantly waste my warp stacks

[silk hawk]

HP+ability CDR+sniper resist = thats what i run
dont think toughness or toughness regen gona help u
if u dont want to run resist... idk try to run something that u feel lacking, like may be corruption resist or idk

u are playing aurics right?

[glossy ember]

i legit don't see what else I could take. Lemme launch the game and check the list.

[glossy ember]

yes, damnation, maelstroms. Both.

[ornate hamlet]

anyone else having trouble with this?

ohhh

[silk hawk]

no

[ornate hamlet]

i just realized

nvm

[harsh urchin]

If you're running warp charges and you want to hold them

[ornate hamlet]

i didnt see brain burst lmao

[harsh urchin]

You'll be better off with vent ult

[glossy ember]

I mean

[harsh urchin]

The shield ult is better when you use it

[glossy ember]

are you gonna spam shield even when you don't need it?

[harsh urchin]

Oh yeah i spam it nonstop

Like every 10-15 seconds

[glossy ember]

if there's no gunners shooting why would you shield, unless it's a dire situation and anything (even the toughness regen could help)

[silk hawk]

and if u will switch to vent

[glossy ember]

idk man

sounds weird

[silk hawk]

u will need sniper resist

i almost can guarantee that

[stuck bridge]

ic

[glossy ember]

That I can see. Or gunner

[harsh urchin]

What difficulty are you playing in?

[glossy ember]

sniper most likely

Auric damnation.

[harsh urchin]

Yeah we must be playing in different ones then 😹

[glossy ember]

I use shields when they're needed ie lots of gunners that are already shooting or lots of snipers. Or surrounded by horde and can build up warp stacks quick anyway

[glossy ember]

idk man

sometimes there's a million gunners

soemtimes there isnt

sometimes you catch the gunners before they start shooting

so not worth the shield

[harsh urchin]

I mean

With psykinetics aura

The cooldown is literally always there

[silk hawk]

if u find yourself picking up allies alot u can slap revive speed

[glossy ember]

Yeah, but why would I use it if it's not needed

[silk hawk]

it actually significantly speeds it up

or block efficiency...

[frank moat]

Gunner perk only applies to actual machine-gunners though pretty sure, no shotties. Not sure about reapers

[glossy ember]

I already run block efficiency lmao

[silk hawk]

especially if u are using deflector FS

[glossy ember]

triple

[silk hawk]

kekw

[glossy ember]

it's useful

I don't run kinetic deflection