BB is great but you do have to build around it alot
#psyker-class
celest hedge
unique mist
it is disappointing
small reef
I mean, i could take specials without issue. But it takes too long, and generates too much peril
Maybe getting the keystones helps with it a lot but before it's not worth it i think
celest hedge
empowered BB can chain special kills so fast with little stop while warp c harges with peril reduction is great, and I think you really want the shout to help spam it and to trigger the fsat speed and less peril after special bonus you can get
warp charges I think is the better way to go since empowered makes you want to save your stacks for specials and not waste it on distance shooters, and it letting you spam your ult more means you get to take advantage of the 75% faster charge much more often
willow hazel
I was running it with a dueling sword with no issues topping lesser enemy kills.
Which is crazy because I was just spamming surge 95% of the game.
small reef
I need to test more but at the same time i need to finish leveling up so i'll leave it for now and try later when am closer to lvl 30
celest hedge
at base you can only get 2BBs before you need to vent but venting is so fast and you get so many tools to make that not a problem
i could plop over the BB build i use if you'd like, I'll always defend the thing
celest hedge
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9a87a6c0-26e1-41ef-9a1f-156cbeec24ac
alot of stuff is to taste but this is still my favorite way to run psyker, purge staff for crowds, deimos for up close targets you can't BB, and buckets of peril reduction and venting
small reef
I'll save it somewhere just in case i lose it
celest hedge
i think toughness regen on warp stack gain should be replaced with reduce peril generation, that'll probably be much more useful
small reef
I'll consider it
celest hedge
if you don't like the purge staff you can always replace it and pretty much remove all the talents related to soul blaze, thinks like toughness regen on gaining peril is great but as is you get so many ways to regen toughness
celest hedge
oh it's fantastic
it's a free BB for no peril cost or casting time
and it can trigger on any attack, melee or ranged
small reef
Hm
celest hedge
it was fantastic in the old skill system since all you needed was any BB kill to gain a warp charge, so even if it went off against trash mobs, it was refreshing the duration of your warp charges for free
and it's still good now, and now you don't have to take it in the place of other talents
small reef
Okay
remote raptor
For fire trauma is it gonna be a deal breaker if im 77% blast radius instead of 78
small reef
Now that you explain it seems pretty good
celest hedge
I don't know how much of a difference it makes, I just spread my mouse left and right whenever I use it and it's fine for me
remote raptor
I don't know how much of a difference it makes, I just spread my mouse left and ...
lol kk
celest hedge
I also don't know quite how the game counts a hit so surge staff might be great for fishing for kinetic flayer on big targets, can probably save you a fully charge hit or two
torpid girder
Wut perks would I want on a chainsword?
woeful patio
Stats are the only thing holding it back
celest hedge
Quell speed is less of an issue for a few points if you’re not already going warp charges, shame about that damage though
woeful patio
I love me some quell speed, but yeah the damage is lackluster
celest hedge
The base quell speed between a staff and not a staff is so different that even with a bad roll, it’s still super fast
shell igloo
I also don't know quite how the game counts a hit so surge staff might be great ...
Can anyone confirm if kinetic flayer will proc on the lesser ticks from surge staff? I'm not home this weekend to test it but I'm curious
sonic whale
Stats are the only thing holding it back
BIG eye
wide galleon
Question, is kinetic flayer worth it?
garbage bait
small reef
garbage bait
No, i was honestly curious
Because yeah, a free BB. But i thought it also added peril as a normal brain burst and also you couldn't control what does it hit
sturdy dagger
Ngl I always assumed it sucked cause I thought what if it just wastes its cooldown on a random groaner/poxwalker
unique mist
Can anyone confirm if kinetic flayer will proc on the lesser ticks from surge st...
yeah it should
frank fulcrum
Wait can the free bb trigger on a channeled cast of bb?
unique mist
no
frank fulcrum
Damn, if only
sturdy dagger
Ngl I always assumed it sucked cause I thought what if it just wastes its cooldo...
I ain't seeing anyone deny this 
orchid shadow
Wait can the free bb trigger on a channeled cast of bb?
Yeah, it can. You can see the Kinetic Flayer debuff timer on the bottom when it triggers.
frank fulcrum
I ain't seeing anyone deny this <:smug:836936215130537984>
that does happen ye, but with good targetting you can get a good amount of use out of it
frank fulcrum
Yeah, it can. You can see the Kinetic Flayer debuff timer on the bottom when it...
and thats actually epic
sturdy dagger
Kinda just sounds like were praying rng makes it useful when a pack of crushers is surrounded by groaners
When even surge staff could chain to a groaner and waste it sounds cope
feral seal
It's beautiful
feral seal
Out of plasteel
frail sand
what blessings do u all use on purg staff?
frank fulcrum
usually blaze and flurry right?
sturdy dagger
Warp nexus and flurry personally
sturdy dagger
usually blaze and flurry right?
As in blazing spirit? I don't even think it has that
orchid shadow
Kinda just sounds like were praying rng makes it useful when a pack of crushers ...
In the old skill system, it made keeping warping charges up easier, especially at the beginning where ALL the charges fell off if you didn't keep them up. Warp charges were then changed to drop off one by one, and now it's not really that useful.
summer prairie
if you have empowered kinetics stacks, kinetic flayer gets the damage buff
frigid sparrow
Is las gun flak/maniac?
distant roost
Oh my lanta
frigid sparrow
Right now its on unyielding/flak, Dum dum and death spitter
summer prairie
if kinetic flayer had a much higher chance of proccing, maybe it would be good
orchid shadow
I use bb alot so I wanted to be sure I wasn't trolling by skipping the talent
Yeah, it needs to be updated. It does trigger if you have Warp Rupture talent for Shriek. I'm not sure if there's any target prioritization on it, but I've Shrieked a horde to get Line of Sight on snipers, only to have the sniper instantly killed from the free BB.
distant roost
yea I use kinetic with my crit build and it’s decent
I’ve yet to get surge and I’ve consecrated like 100 staffs
distant roost
yea I use kinetic with my crit build and it’s *decent*
I find it helpful with carapace enemies mainly cause I can just spam Illsi light attacks
And randomly get a BB
and with Voidstrike, the bulb is so big that anything it glances could be bb
sturdy dagger
usually blaze and flurry right?
Can confirm purge staff cant run blaze
I wish, imagine the burn stacks
That's my exact problem with it, I swing my purge staff through a pack of maulers and the bb might decide the groaner behind them is priority target
If it could only proc on elites and specials I'd use it
pine relic
BB is finally good again
fierce crest
ionic sorrel
BB is finally good again
Lot's of people seem to be having fun with it.
I made a stupid tanky build with surge staff and a deflector illisis blade.
Does no real damage, but is great cc and survival.
pine relic
Lot's of people seem to be having fun with it.
all the soul blaze talents are on the left tree, the build it's pretty standard now.
sturdy dagger
BB is finally good again
near wyvern
BB is finally good again
I wouldn't say good but it's usable yes
plucky flax
BB meme is good. 
light citrus
severe folio
how do you guys use trauma staff
mossy canopy
Funny floor circle go boom apply soulblaze
glossy hazel
how do you guys use trauma staff
Hold right click, wait for +/-70 or full charge then boom.
glossy hazel
Doesn't have much gimmicks outside of soulblaze shenanigans but that does basically nothing compared to the explosion itself
Build for max damage with warp nexus and watch the giblets
severe folio
warp nexus
so the crit one
got it
the staff is suppose to be a sort of
horde killing staff ?
glossy hazel
It's a kill everything in a radius staff, good for hordes, elites, specialists
severe folio
i see
frigid sparrow
What blitz goes well with gun psyker?
glossy hazel
Staggers a lot too so beefier boys get stunned
frigid sparrow
Smite?
glossy hazel
What blitz goes well with gun psyker?
Nothing because gunpsyker sucks eggs
frigid sparrow
idk man, this las pistol fucks
glossy hazel
Las pistol would fuck more on a veteran
Guns on psyker are a meme that should have never been a thing
glossy hazel
Assail is the usual blitz you use on gunpsyker because it's the easiest use and already on the "gunpsyker" side
severe folio
yeah
glossy hazel
You can throw the shards out and switch to your gun while the shards follow your cursor on what to hit
glossy hazel
They track to where you are looking in a cone
severe folio
very nice
glossy hazel
So if you look away from what you are intending to hit it will most likely redirect itself unless it's the aimed one
severe folio
ah i see
echo turtle
Unless scriers gets some buffs, gun psykers are an absolute meme
It's like playing as a vet with less durability and damage output and regend in exchange for assail.
An ability that allows you to kill stuff you should already have no problem killing
There is no gun psykers can take that can output comparable to the void strike staff. Which is like a plasma gun for paykers
severe folio
i have to aim with the voidstrike so i kind of not enjoying it
spice veldt
i think the terribleness of guns on psyker is overstated, though you would have to go for a smaller subset of guns on psyker than on vet
mostly the ones that can benefit from crits (good finesse/crit strings)
severe folio
also why is the dueling sword sooo good
severe folio
forget about gunsyker, we should think about dueling psyker
sturdy dagger
Guns on psyker are a meme that should have never been a thing
Awful take, concept is cool execution is a bit grim
lunar hollow
i think a fairly decent point to consider is that you also use guns on zealot
vapid tinsel
but sadly its always the guns that end up being your early highest base stats every time
lunar hollow
and zealot has mostly marginal buffs to ranged damage
and nobody is really complaining about zealots using their guns
severe folio
to be honest its not like using guns feels bad anyway
lunar hollow
like with psyker you can go warp charges or disrupt destiny, scrier's, etc to boost your ranged damage
severe folio
whther you are vet, zeal or psyker you all use gun the same way, move the same way when you holding a gun
only differences is the primary weapon and the blitz you swap into afterward
lunar hollow
in the post-patch 13 world a gunpsyker is a lot more viable
pre-patch 13 most of it was autopistol with maybe a side of abusing pinning fire soulblaze
echo turtle
Man I am so glad I had a bunch of psykers in my games today Spamming smite into everything that wasn't z burster
Smite does is SO good
vapid tinsel
I gone for a brainburst, to wall with empowered psyonics which works pritty well on bosses especcially when dealing with peeps suckerpunching a demonhost
echo turtle
I was like wow, I see no damage is really being done but I sure am glad all this chaff or the elites that I already had under control is now being occasionally stunned
I mean sure
lunar hollow
just remember
those players would normally be just as ineffective with a different build
echo turtle
You could just like deal damage, But that CC! How could I deal with groaners without the CC
lunar hollow
it is really fucking easy to sandbag
severe folio
they would be making a killing with assail
echo turtle
I had Assail guys too
wispy pike
It's a holdover from being able to bug smite into costing 0 peril and just holding down the smite forever til everything popped.
lunar hollow
they would be making a killing with assail
these same people normally end up running assail and do really good until a single bruiser comes along
and hits them in the head
echo turtle
It's a holdover from being able to bug smite into costing 0 peril and just holdi...
Which still stuckwd
lunar hollow
and then they fold
wispy pike
It did. But it sucked a ot less.
severe folio
i dont like being ambush from behind either
echo turtle
9/10 psykers I played with tonight were garbage
A couple did ok but we're abusing the fuck outs EP with surge
But still couldn't melee worth a damn
Do people not know they can block?
severe folio
youre lucky you have psyker with EP surge
echo turtle
Fuck, wait till they find out about dodges
severe folio
my surge psyker doesnt have EP, and still doesnt know how to melee
mossy canopy
I'd like to think most of the decent psykers are in strike teams and not dealing with pubs nonsense
severe folio
if thats the case where would that put your psyker
mossy canopy
I just have no friends
wispy pike
sadpepe
severe folio
that sound like solo
wispy pike
They roll a 1 and dive down itn othe pack of Bulwarks and Crushers
severe folio
by the way what perks and blessing would you want on a dueling sword
glossy ember
i've never done strike teams here, played a few times with friends tho
severe folio
i wish i could put blazing spirit on my dueling sword
echo turtle
I have a friend that is good. He plays everything other than psyker
echo turtle
i wish i could put blazing spirit on my dueling sword
Why
echo turtle
Can burn things that are deal
mossy canopy
by the way what perks and blessing would you want on a dueling sword
Rampage, Uncanny Strike, 10% Elite, 25% Maniac
severe folio
Rampage, Uncanny Strike, 10% Elite, 25% Maniac
thanks
sturdy dagger
you never know what you'll get
This is why I run exclusively "fine I'll do it myself" builds
echo turtle
Dead*
severe folio
rampage huh
sturdy dagger
Where I can just do everything 2 a passable degree
echo turtle
It's bugged atn
echo turtle
So it's gives you huge damage in hordes
echo turtle
Which imo should already be dead if ur running a good build
severe folio
no, then what happen when its patched away
echo turtle
Uncanny shred or ripose
wispy pike
Then you move to the next broken thing
severe folio
oh
echo turtle
It's just there to poke weak spots on spelites
echo turtle
I would take flaniac over the crit oerks
mossy canopy
I mainly only have to take mine out to slap a mutie or elite that got too close tbf
echo turtle
But yeah
severe folio
damn
cant get flak anymore
wait why do you want flak
isnt this sword pretty fuk up against flak
echo turtle
Ragers
severe folio
we dont talk about lights
mossy canopy
They're ok-enough for horde clear while rampage is still bugged
echo turtle
Maniac
severe folio
is that like the most between
severe folio
i kind of like using heavy attack on a horde
tbh the sword just feels good on everything
especially armored
echo turtle
It's. Busted
echo turtle
Yes lol
severe folio
i hope they kept this armor penetrating thing all time high
theres nothing they can do to nerf it
mossy canopy
There are few things that give feelings of power as strong as poking a charging mutie with one and it falling over
severe folio
unless they fundamentally dismantle it
severe folio
There are few things that give feelings of power as strong as poking a charging ...
play bull fight with mutant
like a spanish
echo turtle
It's the rend that makes it nutty
Just lower rend from uncanny and it's not broken anymore
idle bay
I'm not hallucinating - there are bullshit increase in number of "random" one-shots that completetly ignore fuul 140-170+ toughness. From basic trash mobs. Bleedthrough damage as well - when there should be none!
echo turtle
Uncanny is overtuned
idle bay
FS broke the game again
severe folio
is uncanny overtuned or rending itself
just uncanny ?
actually remind me what does rending do again, it reduce the level of an enemy armor right ?
makes them go from carapace to flak and below
right ?
spice veldt
they'll still be carapace
if your attack deals 60% damage to carapace, then +30% rending means that you'll deal 90% damage to carapace
they changed rending this patch so I'm not sure about the specifics anymore once you reach 100% rending
severe folio
ahh ok
craggy elbow
guys, does the one on the left better than on the right?
frank moat
I’d say yes, but light some incense and pray that Hadron doesn’t brick it
rain granite
I'd say left unless you plan on running a block build.
next mist
youre not a real melee psyker player unless your game looks and sounds like this btw
rain granite
severe folio
thats not a psyker thats a psychedelyer
rain granite
Your poor retinas.
craggy elbow
that hurt my eyes more than Slaaneshi demons poking my eyes
deft osprey
Is the trauma staff not good or something? I have never seen anyone run with it on damnation before. I used to see a lot of void staff users, but nowadays there's so many surge staff users
glossy hazel
Holy fucking shit how can people be so bad, the fact that the console player did better than the level 167 zealot baffles me.
echo turtle
The zealot may have 300 hours of gameplay, but 300 hours spent learning how to play poorly won't beat 100 hours spent learning how to play the game well
severe folio
i confused myself by wondering what the hell is cadian mk4 ass
rain granite
echo turtle
I've seen true level 100+ psykers still not know basic melee
severe folio
random question i know enemies cant shoot into the dome but they can shoot out of the dome ?
echo turtle
I don't think they can
severe folio
nice
i keep thinking how can i use the dome to advance towards gunners enemies
maybe instead of putting it on myself i can shelve them instead
summer prairie
Even if you are inside with them, they can't hit you
severe folio
yeah but you cannot advance towards them
if you put a dome on your location while they are far away
young meteor
For kark's sake, why do you gotta give me godrolled infantry lasguns on PSYKER melk?
glossy ember
alright some stuff I've noticed using Malefic Momentum:
1)pretty easy to upkeep during hordes, 8s is nice to swap to staff to focus on elites in mixed hordes
2)helps tremendously when I waste my warp stacks into an ult, lets me reach my warpstack damage (or close to) so I don't feel gimped/out of reach of my breakpoints
- it's shit to upkeep anywhere else than hordes, and crusher packs makes it hard to upkeep even in hordes
fun build though
i'm running without kinetic deflect for now
to see what it's like
so far not much troubles
i definitely feel less worse about using ult and losing my warp stacks with malefic momentum
next mist
Is the trauma staff not good or something? I have never seen anyone run with it ...
void staff got nerfed, surge staff is very strong. trauma staff is very good still, literally just infinite frag grenades
plucky flax
Is the trauma staff not good or something? I have never seen anyone run with it ...
I agree trauma staff is like the worst staff ever. Pls buff. 
spice veldt
people also probably getting a bad impression of it early on
since it has one of the widest stat scalings in the game
lunar hollow
trauma also has mechanics that are kinda like the helbore
spice veldt
charge rate goes from 2.5s to 1.0s, and blast radius from 1.5m to 2.5m
lunar hollow
in that u either vibe with it
or hate it
if u cant stand the aiming mechanism ur just sol
spice veldt
true
it is my favorite among the staffs mechanically, though there's not competition anyways
lunar hollow
the trauma is one of the 2 staffs where like
there is something going on with it
and ur just not looking at enemy and holding the mouse buttons
current bugged EP surge reminds me of ogryn kickback in how ur just kinda putting your crosshair on stuff u want to die and it does
except instead of horde clear it also kills crushers
severe folio
i been playing with soulblaze trauma today
very fun
its like an artillery
why do they make psyker talent tree so much less cross friendly
cyan notch
the least they could do was to not make trauma go into the air
i feel like thats a reasonable ask
lunar hollow
no
severe folio
how will you hit those enemies a floor above you
lunar hollow
u must be punished for ur hubris
summer prairie
it should just be a pillar that pierces everything vertically
spice veldt
it going into the air is very nice
severe folio
it should just be a pillar that pierces everything vertically
this
yes please
also change the effect from knocking enemies upward to smashing them down
lunar hollow
it will never function like that because of the fucked up verticality in this game
severe folio
that way they dont go flying everywhere
severe folio
unlucky
severe folio
very fun to feel schizo
spice veldt
psyker rp
river stirrup
Is the trauma staff not good or something? I have never seen anyone run with it ...
map dependend in my opinion
like a unholy DK on wow lol, your team need to play around you to rly leverage the trauma staff imo
severe folio
maybe if the trauma staff knock the enemies backward
instead of around where it strike
then they dont have to worry about enemies being splashed behind them
spice veldt
trauma would be one of the staffs that i'd bring on a solo
severe folio
why
spice veldt
infinite cleave weapon that can make space
spice veldt
esp on solo where DPS is severely lacking
though throwing enemies around is problematic when you want them inside your epicentre
severe folio
isnt it rough when it knock the enemies towrads you though
severe folio
i see
spice veldt
in an era with less DPS, knocking elites towards you out of a mixed horde is a nice strat for isolating them
since that's an opportunity for your entire team to just wham on them
severe folio
i see
spice veldt
but that's in an era with less elites and less tools to delete them
severe folio
but isnt that also not good if you are solo
because you wont have a team to melt them down
spice veldt
could swap to melee while they're knocked down if there's not enough enemies for the AoE dps from trauma to kill them
river stirrup
purgatus build with all soulblaze ability to help the propagation of soulblaze is a lot of fun on hordes aha
spice veldt
since that's one of the things I like about trauma
while enemies are knocked down, you yourself can do stuff
severe folio
feel like purgatus with extra soulblaze dont really align anymore
chrome linden
aight, got my staff pretty well set. what perks/blessings should i be lookin forin my diemls sword
severe folio
since purg apply so much why would you want an extra 1-2 tick
river stirrup
propagation
severe folio
what is propagation
river stirrup
Venting applies soulblaze to all mobs in front of u
- When a mob die, all mobs around him will inherit 2-4 soulblaze stacks. I'm just like, cleaning 50% of a wave without even touching it, allowing me to manage another spawn / direction
feral verge
hey @lunar hollow
lunar hollow
what
spice veldt
Venting applies soulblaze to all mobs in front of u
+ When a mob die, all mobs a...
wildfire has a lot of unexplained behavior that makes it not as good as it sounds (from pygex's guide)
- Only triggers after death animation. Most notably a bug.
- Needs at least 2 stacks on the target to spread the fire.
- Hard cap of 4. You cannot transfer more than 4 stacks total per dying target.
- Can only target enemies with 4 or less stacks. Enemies with 4 will just refresh in duration and consume a stack.
- Stacks are always spread evenly among suitable targets if possible.
- 5m radius from blazed target.
- Will be spread by corpses if they have been lit after death when the Soulblaze effect ends on them.
lunar hollow
you disgust me
spice veldt
hey <@445566734255259648>
you disgust me
severe folio
oh corpses can lit other enemies on fire ?
thats prob a bug but that seem pretty useful
spice veldt
though it's only 1/30th of your build so it is what it is
only problem is that purg is very good at soulblaze application already
it's fairly likely for enemies near you to have more than 4 soulblaze stacks, assuming that you're using it optimally
severe folio
making soulblaze talent redundant
spice veldt
and by optimally, I mean waving your mouse wildly around
river stirrup
wildfire has a lot of unexplained behavior that makes it not as good as it sound...
thank you, it's very interesting to have all these details ❤️ ! btw, I'm not saying it's a super-strong or effective build, just that I find it fun to play 😂
severe folio
but have you try disrupt destiny purg ?
spice veldt
yeah that's fine
some people like blazing spirit + bloodthirsty illisi with it
though I don't know how that fairs nowadays
spice veldt
but have you try disrupt destiny purg ?
crack cocaine
i run disrupt destiny with purg but only because I just run assail and purg is there along for the ride
severe folio
thats not the same thing
what if scrier gaze purg
im thinking about trying scier gaze and blazing trauma
to see how much more often can i apply flames
idle bay
It took me 909+ Hours to learn that mini-poke (special) from DS interrupts Rager's combo....
severe folio
it also interrupt crusher
spice veldt
no wait the special could always stagger ragers iirc
severe folio
i was staggering them before this patch
severe folio
wow
idle bay
0_0
severe folio
actually why would you even do that
spice veldt
to flex
severe folio
if you stagger them someone else will just kill them for you
and then they will flex on you instead
spice veldt
look at this swag psyker staggering a mutant
TRUE
can't be having that around here
severe folio
exactly
severe folio
leave them behind and just kill the elite yourself
lunar hollow
"i should use the special on a mutie"
the problem was
when i did it
there were two of them in a line
so i staggered the first one
spice veldt
lmao
severe folio
ah i get that
idle bay
can't be having that around here
Demands for nerf will come immidiately if someone whith fragile ego will see that Flex
spice veldt
WHAM
spice veldt
Demands for nerf will come immidiately if someone whith fragile ego will see th...
can't believe psykers are trivializing mutants!!!
severe folio
so heres the thing with that
that whole situation
can be completely different
if you heavy and chain with a special
idle bay
can't believe psykers are trivializing mutants!!!
It was Ogryns with rock preregative to do that
severe folio
because you will kill and stagger the second one instead
oh i remember what they did this patch now
chrome linden
i love diemos sword vs mutants. i normally drop them on one hit, and it HILAROUS hearing them get all pissy and just die with
"and a poke goes here"
lunar hollow
if you don't know that the 2nd mutie is there
severe folio
they made it easier and quicker to enter the special poke
lunar hollow
u cant defeat him
severe folio
u cant defeat him
just always do it just in case
i always followup with a poke since the recent patch made it super fast
lunar hollow
but yeah im pretty sure the chain timing for an attack into special combo was changed in patch 14
and not on patch 13
lunar hollow
which is when this incident occurred
severe folio
yeah its on latest patch
spice veldt
patch 13 introduced the special -> h1 speedup for the mk4
severe folio
not the latest patch ?
spice veldt
patch 14 introduced the any attack -> special speedup (i have no idea if it's for all duelling swords or just the mk4)
lunar hollow
this is one of those funny things
where fatshark just does random shit
there were 1-2 patches where bursters had multiple different ticking/detonation sounds
and then they removed em
severe folio
https://youtu.be/yPbCDkXMC5w?si=x2lS8vIUavtlHpyz&t=87 when the psyker start aggroing the plorgyn after the orgyn is down
lunar hollow
@spice veldt u heard it here
chrome linden
https://youtu.be/yPbCDkXMC5w?si=x2lS8vIUavtlHpyz&t=87 when the psyker start aggr...
that feels a littleTOO accurate
spice veldt
<@297182781346152448> u heard it here
oh god
severe folio
that feels a littleTOO accurate
this show predicted darktide
severe folio
oh god
i have this thing, and i want to make another one, what blessing and perk should i look for ?
spice veldt
i have this thing, and i want to make another one, what blessing and perk should...
I don't know about perks since I haven't really worried about breakpoints so far given that a lot of things are changing
for blessings besides warp nexus, it'd prob be just personal preference and whatnot
i go for rending shockwave or focused channeling sometimes since I keep trauma in my back pocket and use melee to fish for True Aim stacks to get crits for blazing spirit
plucky flax
wow veri pro
spice veldt
i kill you
plucky flax
glossy ember
current bugged EP surge reminds me of ogryn kickback in how ur just kinda puttin...
i like spicing it up with grenade cancel and not using ep
makes surge a lot more fun
severe folio
I don't know about perks since I haven't really worried about breakpoints so far...
thankss
potent echo
assail is a primary weapon
this is... wrong? 
severe folio
i go for rending shockwave or focused channeling sometimes since I keep trauma i...
btw, what does brittle do
potent echo
rending, but debuff on enemies
severe folio
oh
potent echo
think onslaught on vet
potent echo
rending is a buff on yourself
severe folio
one is apply on yourself, the other is apply on the taret
potent echo
yea
severe folio
wait if it appl on enemy
potent echo
so brittleness helps your team (kind of)
potent echo
theres no effect for brittleness so your team will never know
potent echo
brittleness stacks 16 times
severe folio
they just need to be hitting against anything thats on the floor
which i hope they will
hopefully
potent echo
unless
potent echo
nah no way
severe folio
so i see this talent
it said crit makes you count as dodging range attack for 1 second
what happen if you crit multiple enemies in a single attack ?
do they just all count as 1 second or do they stacks count every crit hit ?
potent echo
yea just counts as 1
severe folio
fukin
severe folio
oh
oh wait
you mean, if that 1 second hasnt end, it wont register another
oh fuk
is it a useful skill
potent echo
if you crit twice in a second, it will refresh on the second crit
severe folio
i see
severe folio
trauma
potent echo
1 sec is really short
severe folio
trauma with blazing
potent echo
probably something that fires fast and crits alot
spice veldt
columnus IAG is probably the prime candidate for empathic evasion
spice veldt
🥺
severe folio
actually well
its less fire rate
but about the same recoil
its between agripina and columnus
potent echo
also what does empathic evasion even mean
potent echo
and that makes you dodge bullets after critting them
severe folio
you understand not just how they think but how they feel
if i have to guess
it would be like
you know your enemy so well that you can strike them very decisively, while at the same time dodging their shot
potent echo
some newtype shit
severe folio
wait
i have to make sure if i remember if thats actually empathic
okay thats the right word
phew haha
this is some "get in your enemy head" type of deal
summer prairie
almost more warpfire
wooden wadi
bleak tulip
why is columnus the meme by the way, I used it and it seems cool and all but you hose through so much ammo if you try to hit anything that's further then like 10m away
bleak tulip
funny fatshark rounding, probably
spice veldt
why is columnus the meme by the way, I used it and it seems cool and all but you...
high ADMs up close and 4-shot crit strings
bleak tulip
I mean it does shit on everything close up
spice veldt
recoil takes some getting used to, and I'm not having too much trouble with aiming
the recoil does vastly increase when you're moving
bleak tulip
I didn't use it on psyker so that's fair
spice veldt
and it does bear keeping in mind that crouching no longer gives your arms parkinsons
bleak tulip
sweet
spice veldt
i run it on both vet and psyker, and I like it very much so far
I'm a fan of my automatics
summer prairie
smite is actually very good, especially with solidity, but don't think there's much of a reason to get EP with it
bleak tulip
yesh I ran it on vet to do weeklies and it just felt a bit spammy to try and get ranged kills on trash with, but I did notice it ripping through ragers and muties pretty well
limber tartan
I run smite with scriers 
spice veldt
yeah not as great for ranged stuff esp with its rapid RoF and not hitting anything close to a 1-2 shot BP beyond certain distances
it certainly does incentivize you to be up close to make the most out of it, which may or may not be the easiest thing
the mobility is appreciable when you're pressured by a horde and can just pretty safely dodge around as you attempt to get an aim on something
summer prairie
Unfortunately only recorded maybe 20% of the elites kills here https://streamable.com/rlinq0
glossy ember
that's a lot of text
summer prairie
yeah I may not need all that debuff info
frigid dune
feeling like a shadow priest with their dots ticking on 40 mobs up in there
chrome linden
so what am i looking for in the diemos sword
still hearth
its amazing on purg
The issue is that purgatus has probably the best suppression in the game so it really only helps if enemies are like 30m+ away or not in the direction you're firing
summer prairie
well shooters are mostly only an issue anyway if they are all over you
lets you just ignore random shooters spawning/flanking you
clear heath
yeah I may not need all that debuff info
yeah i just show DoT stacks
summer prairie
also +436 psyker and I just got going out with a bang accidentally (never intentionally went for it)
clear heath
also i edited the lua file in the mod to shorten the DoT text
It's quite nice
summer prairie
I'm about to do that
clear heath
So it's WARP, BRN, BLD for the dots
summer prairie
do you just edit the localization file
clear heath
i think so
clear heath
do you just edit the localization file
yeah
idle aurora
that's a lot of text
my beloved psyker just leaked his DMs
glossy ember
lmao
bleak tulip
also i edited the lua file in the mod to shorten the DoT text
It's quite nice
coherency?
if so thats the first indicator I didnt think was fugly
clear heath
no that's ability cooldown
bleak tulip
aw
craggy elbow
Well I guess we got another bug
clear heath
psykanium is known to be weird with buffs sometimes
craggy elbow
I see
frank moat
Did you change your loadout slot? That's the only time I've noticed that since it doesn't clear any buffs
summer prairie
if you don't have solidity, smite autoquell basically wastes 14 frames (250ms). If you do, it wastes maybe 4 frames and also quells for 2 ticks
severe folio
Unfortunately only recorded maybe 20% of the elites kills here https://streamabl...
wait does jumping actually help with fire
summer prairie
It might be supposed to autoquell for 2 full ticks even without solidity, but it stops at 14 frames (15 frames per quell tick without solidity)
glossy ember
solidity?
summer prairie
30% faster quell node
glossy ember
oh
summer prairie
jumping helps with fire, though I think I was out of fire range or on an object
glossy ember
love that node
summer prairie
but I guess you can start manually quelling when you trigger the autoquell to get around the wastage
reef oasis
love that node
Looky looky who's here...
glossy ember
👀
reef oasis
If I'm trying to do a pure voidstaff sorta thing... which bit do folks think I should ditch to get mettle?
terse saffron
sanctuary or kinetic flayer
glossy ember
definitely kinetic flayer
terse saffron
no true aim on voidstrike btw?
reef oasis
I kinda don't want to ditch kinetic just because then BB becomes useless, it's the only way to get any of the blitzs to have any value to me... I was sorta hoping warp rider wasn't gonna be as good as it sounds.
glossy ember
it's even better than it sounds cuz it's a perma 10% buff at 0 peril, iirc from a reddit post i saw this week
reef oasis
No points to get down to true aim... though after spending more resources on voidstrike staves than I have on all other weapons combined I did get surge before I logged last night, so I might have to stretch to it once I jimmy that onto something.
terse saffron
just ignore mettle you already have both on peril gain and on kill toughness
terse saffron
sanctuary isnt as useful as it sounds
glossy ember
or this and then you have 1 point to waste somewhere
terse saffron
and between that and true aim? definitely the latter
reef oasis
If we're not going kinetic then I've got no need to pick up BB at all, could just take another blitz and never use it...
frank moat
Was gonna buy this from Melk for the blessing anyway, but is it any good besides? I'm guessing the hit to charge rate is a little too significant?
glossy ember
BB is nice if you gotta do a kill from a peek
reef oasis
Yeah I've just been using it to knock off some achievements, but got them done now.
terse saffron
Was gonna buy this from Melk for the blessing anyway, but is it any good besides...
blazing spirit build feels slightly more powerful and the charge time boost is insignificant compared to warp nexus
reef oasis
Does True Aim reset on a non weakpoint hit?
reef oasis
Ah okay, so it is solid then, arrgh.
terse saffron
and brain burst gives 2 stacks of true aim when it staggers and hits the target
summer prairie
I guess kinetic flayer does give you a free true aim stack
glossy ember
that's pretty nice
reef oasis
I figured it proccing on monstrosities occasionaly was a boon too...
terse saffron
crusher when it gets hit by kinetic flayer mk5 poke
severe folio
warp siphon and scrier gaze dont mix do they
terse saffron
yeah the moment you pop scrier you lose half your peril res
halcyon creek
Ouch, that's how I'm running my Soulblaze Gunker...
I would share the build if I knew how
terse saffron
maybe when they fix disrupt destiny being inconsistent garbage that would be a better option
halcyon creek
Trying to build around Perilous Combustion and Wildfire, becoming a budget vet and sniping Specials with a Vraks VII HHAG
keen slate
Tbf DD should have smaller range
So it wouldn't pop highlight a random sniper 30 meters away
terse saffron
and some grace periods when no suitable enemies are present
either a QoL improvement or the lazy band aid of it being able to latch onto horde enemies
chrome linden
this just dropped from my mission
severe folio
seem right to keep it
chrome linden
just rolled this. need to get resources to keep it going, but so far seems promising
severe folio
they should change somthing about warp siphon too
pulsar plaza
how do i finish Warp battery Penance
obtuse walrus
glossy ember
woah, warpfire putting in work
glossy ember
starting to get a hang on the illisi, still feels inferior to the mkiv devil claw though 
plucky flax
Rip my infinite dodges.
reef oasis
how do i finish Warp battery Penance
I did that one last night... pick a hi-shock map, don't choose the extra charges upgrade... kill stuff - voidstrike or bugged surge (empowered psionics) seems to work best... I saw someone saying to do a soulbaze build with that warp upgrade, but I wasn't vibing that.
Cliffhanger though, bluurgh, never doing that one.
glossy ember
gonna try executor over shred, see how it goes. don't have slaughterer yet
shred's nice to quickly stack up those buffs though
and get toughness
pulsar plaza
I did that one last night... pick a hi-shock map, don't choose the extra charges...
thank !
ornate hamlet
I’ve noticed that smite for psycher generates too much peril and also is sorta weak
Is it really only good for gun psychers ?
twilit badger
It's not even good for gun psykers
Granted gun psykers are just awful to begin with
severe folio
its not meant to kill anything to begin with
summer prairie
smite is good with shriek and solidity, you have enough time to quell and keep everything locked down
severe folio
its a cc tool that they taken out from the old surge
twilit badger
Wouldn't it be just better just murder them with surge staff
ruby narwhal
Hey peeps new lvl 30 psyker here what weapons/perks/blessings should i be looking for?
twilit badger
Rather than channeling smite whole time
kind jay
smite is for when you get a mixed horde with 30 crushers and 500 ragers
kind jay
thats when it really shines
twilit badger
That's the problem you have too channel it constantly
summer prairie
umm no, I use it when it's appropriate for the situation
twilit badger
While assail just basically bash button till you runs out
summer prairie
well that's an issue with assail
severe folio
you cant compare smite and assail with the abilities to kill things
both deals damage but both are 2 different tools for 2 different purpose
smite is the lock down that the old surge staff used to have
twilit badger
Yeah well
Can't say i'm a big fan of just doing CC alone role
I'd rather much prefer the stuff which actually kills stuff good
kind jay
im a fan of support so im glad theres stuff i can use for that purpose
twilit badger
If it wasn't the fact that you have to channel smite
summer prairie
with blaze trauma it's pretty entertaining to get everything to 12 stacks first and then just lock them down until everything is dead. I mean usually you can just make room with just trauma but smite is a bit better at allowing for resses and such
severe folio
well if your weapons cannot kill things immediately then yeah i can see why you want to primarily use your assail to kill things
but if someone were to carry the surge staff and they want something to manage the horde, then they have to deposit that duty to their melee or their blitz
twilit badger
Because true supporting isn't about CC and other puny stuff
summer prairie
you don't play support when you pick smite
severe folio
sure
i mean
i guess you can just keep using assailt then
if that is killing stuffs fast enough
severe folio
then what exactly are you wobbling about
so theres no fast killing in the end
unless youre talking about the surge bug
twilit badger
Surge staff
severe folio
so you dont ever have to face horde
you just surge everything down
does that mean you just have bb as your blitz then
twilit badger
Yes
severe folio
how do you manage the horde
twilit badger
Soul blaze shriek
With special/elite kill cooldown
Surge builds up peril quite fast
unique mist
Don't even know what this bug is
the bug is empowered psionics increases surge staff secondary damage by 125% without consuming charges
twilit badger
the bug is empowered psionics increases surge staff secondary damage by 125% wit...
I have one of such loadout
That explains why my surge murdered crusher in two shot
lmao
severe folio
so you did use EP with surge
twilit badger
In one of my loadouts yes
Not my main one
I believe most of people make lots of different loadouts no
Even tho they are not used that much
severe folio
then what exactly is your build
i cant wrap my head around it
you have, vent shriek, surge, bb
warp siphon ?
twilit badger
Surge/Soul blaze shriek/BB/Warp siphon
severe folio
well i guess your whole build is invest onto the surge staff then
twilit badger
And BB for dealing boss dmg
Psyker kiiiinda bad at killing bosses
At least BB does some dmg
unique mist
psyker is just mediocre at it
severe folio
its like
twilit badger
Yeah i know i know
severe folio
one of the slowest method
severe folio
not your surge ?
severe folio
the casting speed only happen after you vent no ?
in which all your warp siph is gone
ruby narwhal
this worth putting through Hadron?
twilit badger
Since i'm running that 4% chance to gain a warp charge
severe folio
this worth putting through Hadron?
would say first target kind of low
severe folio
this worth putting through Hadron?
but you might get a tier 4 blessing
static needle
Is there anything else for psyker which is as good as shards?
severe folio
define as good as shards
ruby narwhal
What's the dump stat on force swords?
ornate hamlet
Is there anything else for psyker which is as good as shards?
I got a good brain burst build
severe folio
What's the dump stat on force swords?
id say mobility
twilit badger
Used to be mobility
static needle
Is there anything else for psyker which is as good as shards?
uh as good as doing what shard is good at?
twilit badger
But i don't know now
ornate hamlet
Run purgatus
twilit badger
Since unlimited dodge gone
ornate hamlet
Calvert saber
glossy ember
don't you just want 50% mobility max
static needle
Run purgatus
purgatus does like 0 damage tho
glossy ember
ideally
severe folio
can pick warp resistance as second dump stat
ornate hamlet
And just go simple old school burst, push, and warp
static needle
u always just get killstealed using that staff
ornate hamlet
purgatus does like 0 damage tho
Someone doesn’t have a good one then lol
static needle
i guess
ornate hamlet
u always just get killstealed using that staff
That’s a you problem
The thing is good at killing
static needle
That’s a you problem
no need to repeat yourself 🙂
static needle
ok well im not 30 yet
sage glacier
best perks for purgatus staff?
static needle
so is it worth using atm
severe folio
ok well im not 30 yet
taht explain it
glossy ember
force sword mobility. Looks like even at 25% you have 5 dodges lol
static needle
But i'd use surge instead tbh
whats surge good at?
severe folio
surge good athigh damage single target, bleed a bit to the guy next to it
twilit badger
Able to stop mutants even
severe folio
smite is not a killing tool
static needle
dang
twilit badger
Pure CC
glossy ember
warp res
static needle
do u get more xp the more enemies u kill?
twilit badger
Nope
glossy ember
so mobility as dump stat
severe folio
No
severe folio
so mobility as dump stat
nice
twilit badger
Welp
glossy ember
force sword mobility. Looks like even at 25% you have 5 dodges lol
second pic
twilit badger
Dump stat it is
glossy ember
25 is also 5 dodges
static needle
is the obscurus mkii blaze sword any good compared to deimos?
severe folio
Would say no
its the first force sword, its between the illisi and deimos in purpose
twilit badger
It's shit
severe folio
it has a strike down and a cleave, so its between single target and horde cleave
twilit badger
Can't do anything properly
severe folio
but not good at either
static needle
Would say no
illisi is CC?
twilit badger
Illisi is very good at murdering hordes and stuff
static needle
k
twilit badger
Deimos is single target focus
severe folio
its cleaving, so it hit multiple enemies, and even the force attack hits multiple enemies
the one where you charge the blade up
static needle
what is slightly annoying is when im playing with others psykers and they almost instantly kill most enemies before i can get to em with their shards
severe folio
recommend try guns
static needle
so what can i do to actually get some besides using shards as well
severe folio
or
static needle
recommend try guns
any good guns for psyker?
twilit badger
No it's shit
severe folio
IAG
twilit badger
Defintely not recommended for new players
static needle
what is IAG
static needle
Defintely not recommended for new players
im lvl 18 on my psyker and 25 on my veteran, so skill issues arent a problem most of the time
twilit badger
im lvl 18 on my psyker and 25 on my veteran, so skill issues arent a problem mos...
Profane staff is better than god rolled guns for psykers
End of story
static needle
profane staff?
twilit badger
You know
frank fulcrum
grey rarity
twilit badger
White ones
static needle
ah
twilit badger
Or yeah that
static needle
what are good stats for the surge staff?
craggy elbow
look after your crit, warp, and dmg
static needle
these good?
severe folio
youre not getting any good deal
static needle
well i mean might as well make the best of it
craggy elbow
yeah if you're still 18 don't care about stats imo
severe folio
if you are then you can just grab whatever staff you want to try
glossy ember
just pick whatever until you get to 30
craggy elbow
they'll be getting better and better
severe folio
anything will perform equally to each other at your level
frank fulcrum
30 is when all your min maxxing comes into play
plain locust
Every 3-5 levels, just buy a profane staff, level it up to blue until you’re level 30
bright mica
This gets triggered on every tick of soulflame
plain locust
Then start rolling for your near-god tier weapons and gear
severe folio
This gets triggered on every tick of soulflame
i dont think thats intended
glossy ember
this is 100% bricked, right?
static needle
ive heard people say upgrading weapons before lvl 30 is never worth it
severe folio
ive heard people say upgrading weapons before lvl 30 is never worth it
theyre not wrong
bright mica
i dont think thats intended
Very much not but very useful on my Gunpsyker
craggy elbow
this is 100% bricked, right?
the blessing is 
severe folio
you will dumb those weapons
static needle
Every 3-5 levels, just buy a profane staff, level it up to blue until you’re lev...
@severe folio
severe folio
<@220014557903454210>
i dont know much about that, but if it were me i would save crafting materials
twilit badger
this is 100% bricked, right?
Make it to orange
static needle
k
severe folio
and not upgrading my weapons, or even consider it until i bought a weapon with at least 360
plain locust
360? At level 30?
bright mica
Decent
glossy ember
Make it to orange
aight
severe folio
360? At level 30?
its not a gurantee to even get a 350 at level 30
plain locust
vagrant cedar
can't wait till they release the game and add 100% items
glossy ember
are you still sure this is salvageable 
vagrant cedar
this 80% crap still going after a year
twilit badger
Oh
severe folio
twilit badger
I'm sorry
plain locust
its not a gurantee to even get a 350 at level 30
Just save ordos. You’re gonna spend millions either way
twilit badger
Bricked AF
glossy ember
static needle
since im running surge staff, is it a bad idea to run duelling sword too?
glossy ember
since im running surge staff, is it a bad idea to run duelling sword too?
i'd run a crowd melee if I were you
severe folio
Just save ordos. You’re gonna spend millions either way
save plasteel
severe folio
are you still sure this is salvageable <:cryKEKW:1014677639421759538>
its brickked
glossy ember
yea
plain locust
save plasteel
I’m talking about farming a 380 profane with as close to as many 80 stats as possible
severe folio
static needle
i'd run a crowd melee if I were you
would you also not run brain burst since the surge is single target?
bright mica
This gets triggered on every tick of soulflame
The soulflame doesn't have to be triggered by the weapons kill either
severe folio
I’m talking about farming a 380 profane with as close to as many 80 stats as pos...
hes level 18 im not gonna teach him how to farm 380 right now
bright mica
If I kill an elite with my rapier, switch to my Columnus, it procs
severe folio
and 380 is so rare, if i say that he might jsut discard every weapons that is not 380
and you dont get 380 that often
glossy ember
would you also not run brain burst since the surge is single target?
nah you got LMB for far targets. BB is nice though and I used to run it but lmb does the job most of the time
but you can
i don't blitz often to begin with so
wispy pike
380 is a perfect roll no?
static needle
Uh what is lmb?
severe folio
380 is a perfect roll no?
not all the time
bright mica
Considering Mobility is practically useless above 51% I don't discard every weapon below 380. A 380 can be worse than a 360 if rolled poorly.
glossy ember
Behold!
4 dodges killing machine.
severe folio
its the highest rating, but that doesnt mean the weapon stat are guranteed to distribute the right way
plain locust
and 380 is so rare, if i say that he might jsut discard every weapons that is no...
I was talking about your 360 staff, not the level 18 person lol
glossy ember
yuge
severe folio
I was talking about your 360 staff, not the level 18 person lol
well im talking about them
glossy ember
just gotta swap those perks
still hearth
If it had T4 blessings or better perks
plain locust
well im talking about them
K 😂😂
frank fulcrum
My first good Emp Gift
melk blessed my ass today as well
severe folio
380 is a perfect roll no?
