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#psyker-class
harsh urchin
All they have to do is make it only work on elites/specials
Theres no reason you'd ever want it to pop on anything else realistically
boreal meteor
my fellow schizo mains, what trinkets do you tend to run
triple toughness due to the easily available regen we got?
spice veldt
it's a safe bet to take at least 1 hp curio and whatnot to get at least 200 hp for bursters and snipers (if you have at least 1x +20% sniper res)
acoustic path
my fellow schizo mains, what trinkets do you tend to run
HP only
keen slate
That would be such a good horde clearer but damn those stats
frigid dune
do i nab this from melk?
hollow cargo
its a tricky one
wooden flare
Combined with Disupt Destiny I’m a god damn blur as melee Psyker
My only problem is Ragers because I forget to push them back
brazen warren
yeah SG melee psyker is zoom
hollow cargo
anyone have a sg melee build?
wanton sandal
team stick together challenge 😭
hollow cargo
team stick together challenge 😭
what is the coherency stat? is it how long you've stayed within coherency?
wooden flare
This is what am currently running
boreal meteor
This is what am currently running
what weapon?
wooden flare
what weapon?
Illisi
And revolver
I need something better than revolver
I reload too much
The primary is just for ranged marked targets mostly
hollow cargo
laspistol?
wooden flare
You’ll be melee majority of the time
wanton sandal
what is the coherency stat? is it how long you've stayed within coherency?
i think so
hollow cargo
i think so
so would that number be coherency in seconds?
wanton sandal
no idea how it's calculated
hollow cargo
Yeah but that’ll give ma Carpal Tunnel
introducing: autofire mod
wooden flare
introducing: autofire mod
Xbox not PC
wanton sandal
but i figure it's how many teammates you keep in coherency
hollow cargo
Xbox not PC
rest in peace
hollow cargo
but i figure it's how many teammates you keep in coherency
oh like a counter of how many times your allies became coherent w you?
i can see that
cosmic sigil
triple toughness due to the easily available regen we got?
I was running 2tg 1hp for the longest time but I decided to try 1 stam 2 HP (all 3 have +5% tg) so on my assail shield ep build I have around 139 tg and 240 HP. I need to check the stats on my other builds tho
boreal meteor
whats the meta dueling sword mk?
cosmic sigil
I reload too much
Try vraks 3 / 7 or Agri iag?
cosmic sigil
whats the meta dueling sword mk?
The 4
quasi junco
Good evening siblings. One of you go get me some grog
hollow cargo
Try vraks 3 / 7 or Agri iag?
seconding the vraks vii, shit RIPS
wanton sandal
Good evening siblings. One of you go get me some grog
*blows up grog with mind
quasi junco
*blows up grog with mind
wanton sandal
you ever just wish you didnt get 2 IV perks
well, you kinda GOTTA use it now
sly elk
HOLY
hollow cargo
use it to grind to roll another similar
wanton sandal
tho meta is infernus and dumdum so just rip infernus
hollow cargo
tho meta is infernus and dumdum so just rip infernus
or this
boreal meteor
ye ill rip infernus
wanton sandal
i think mob
wanton sandal
you want cloud radius and burn i believe
that's pretty good though, just swap out the perks for crit chance and uhhh idfk
hazy cedar
you ever just wish you didnt get 2 IV perks
Unarmored to maniac, reassuringly accurate to dumdum. Looks good to me tbh, could be a lot worse
noble mason
Should I use Deimos or Maccabian for melee?*🤔
Dagger.
keen slate
*I run Scrier's Gaze
spice oar
Catachan blade
cosmic cedar
Do you need to use base brain burst for the monstrum penance or does brain rupture also work?
spice oar
Riposte bersekrers and crushers so they ain't an issue no more
shadow oar
what dueling sword is best
visual prism
hey question about the dome, does the cd start ticking down as soon as you cast it? or after the dome ends?
karmic fractal
hey question about the dome, does the cd start ticking down as soon as you cast ...
upon casting
visual prism
ooo so can you have 100% uptime with the dome with enough warp charges?
willow hazel
https://i.imgur.com/SK4Dm4S.png
probably swap the perks to maniac/flak
wanton sandal
Heretics will burn
based shovel staff
wind wadi
Do you need to use base brain burst for the monstrum penance or does brain ruptu...
Can do with rupture
karmic fractal
Heretics will burn
Bröther!
https://i.imgur.com/LFabsSP.png
shadow oar
what mark dueling sword is best rn?
wheat quartz
4 feels really good
shadow oar
thats the one with the high dmg heavy right
smoky turtle
ooo so can you have 100% uptime with the dome with enough warp charges?
yes
with the right setup you can actually have two bubbles up simultaneously, though why you would do that I don't know
boreal meteor
alright, that melee psyker build went hard
like real hard
faster than a zealot and you just merc everything
wheat quartz
thats the one with the high dmg heavy right
really high damage heavy thrusts
brazen warren
bubble conga across the map
boreal meteor
stomped an auric mission
north pike
8 bubbles at the same time was funny
smoky turtle
bubble conga across the map
I had a mission play out like this with three psykers
uptime was so good we just built like, bubble bridges through open areas
a bit unnecessary but I thought it was hilarious
brazen warren
anything to mess with shooters is the god emperors own work
lavish wigeon
Can someone toss me a skill tree for an assail psyker?
harsh urchin
Can someone toss me a skill tree for an assail psyker?
Do you want assail to be primary, or secondary
lavish wigeon
Primary
wise ruin
are there any decent melee focused psyker builds?
harsh urchin
Primary
Here's a crit assail primarily focused on abusing the handcannon interaction.
lavish wigeon
Ok
long wharf
Here's a crit assail primarily focused on abusing the handcannon interaction.
I like to get the quell speed
austere burrow
You don't take the extra charges?
keen slate
We need Perill generation reduction for psykers's curios
lavish wigeon
Here's a crit assail primarily focused on abusing the handcannon interaction.
Whats the handcannon interaction?
austere burrow
Surely the extra charges are better than one of those travel nodes
harsh urchin
You don't take the extra charges?
I used to, and then I dropped it, because if you actually look at your charges
you'll pretty much never have more than 1 charge
if you're using your assail
try recording a run and watching your charges
austere burrow
Hmmm
long wharf
my assail build goes Assail+Shriek+bottom of EP while getting both quell speed and True Aim
austere burrow
I guess I use it a bit less than primary level
long wharf
I don't have the mod for squishing the tree, though
austere burrow
So I tend to have 3 charges for dangerous situations
lavish wigeon
What is revolve?
long wharf
on Heresy+, where it's common to see multiple elite groups, I frequently get multiple EP charges
lavish wigeon
What is revolve?
Im trying to get this information for a friend not in the server
harsh urchin
Im trying to get this information for a friend not in the server
the revolver has a blessing named hand cannon, and that blessing works on assail, giving it a shitload of dmg
long wharf
Im trying to get this information for a friend not in the server
then tell your friend to come here
lavish wigeon
then tell your friend to come here
He wont
long wharf
better they get info first hand and learn, then second-hand and confused
sucks for him then
queen fog
Worst case he doesn’t like what he sees and dips after getting the info they wanted
lavish wigeon
Im the discord guy of our friend group. They're terrified of new people
queen fog
long wharf
sounds like something they would really benefit from working on
strong gulch
This is my revolver. I favor surgical.
keen slate
Can teammates see enemies marked by "Disrupt Destiny" ?
strong gulch
NOPE
keen slate
Cringe
warped slate
Bees are fun. That is all
strong gulch
Sometime you can't see them either.
long wharf
that's my All Assail All The Time tree
on high difficulties, you get EP often enough that you never run out of shards
which makes peril your limiting factor
hence why I go Shriek and Solidity
keen slate
Bruh
queen fog
Solidity slaps
long wharf
poorly designed? perhaps
strong gulch
Some people don't even build the keystones
long wharf
and my support Assail build is what that link is now
spice veldt
disrupt destiny not having bugs would help
lyric burrow
disrupt doesnt even feel awful to me now that ive played around with it buy yeah its very weird
spice veldt
if the refresh mechanic worked consistently and if marked targets glowed all the time
long wharf
DD being more reliable would help
if instead every enemy had a chance every second to get marked
instead of a single random enemy around you being marked
DD needs a rewrite, IMO
lyric burrow
yeah i dont think im getting enough stacks to actually get anything really going regularly
which is odd given they allow you to get so many stacks
it is fun to zoom around tho when combined with scriers
silver pagoda
surge staff is kinda insane with DD tho, better use of peril than assail imo
lyric burrow
ive only really run it with scriers melee builds
havent tried it in a more traditional build yet
silver pagoda
the way surge works now makes it a lot more aimable
long wharf
nothing is "insane" with DD
and surge staff is half of its full glory when you aren't using EP
silver pagoda
what would EP have to do with the surge staff?
harsh urchin
Like are they playing on malice
long wharf
it makes me question your sanity... or experience
spice veldt
i don't consider it remarkable, but if you're taking True Aim, then it's good enough for a 4-point cost
harsh urchin
what would EP have to do with the surge staff?
Well EP makes surge do double dmg rn
Due to a bug
So yaaaa
long wharf
True Aim is almost always worth getting
spice veldt
and I don't feel like assail spamming with EP
lunar hollow
surge's secondary fire counts as the same thing as smite
harsh urchin
Due to a bug
.
lunar hollow
it did in patch 13 but the effects were very marginal
silver pagoda
mind f-ing blown right now
lunar hollow
and I don't feel like assail spamming with EP
yeah. they ruined assail anyways https://streamable.com/orjiky
silver pagoda
to be fair, I was still one shotting more enemies on damnation without it
lunar hollow
worthless ability
spice veldt
yeah. they ruined assail anyways https://streamable.com/orjiky
why would they nerf assail and perilous combustion!!!
evidently never a realistic scenario to have an elite pack jumpscare for perilous combustion to be effective
lunar hollow
very true. patch notes said they would lessen elite spawns
spice veldt
i believe them
lunar hollow
fatshark would never say something that just isn't true
supple ledge
hello fellow aneurysm gamers
spice veldt
hai
supple ledge
i would like to ask what perks are good on the epic flamethrower staff
lunar hollow
although that clip is lame because i dont have my graia and i didnt get to activate scriers and bitch about how bad psyker is
spice veldt
although that clip is lame because i dont have my graia and i didnt get to activ...
don't worry there was a handsome and cool columnus vet there
lunar hollow
i would swap stamina for flak and tb for warp nexus
silver pagoda
honestly purgatus staff is the only one I can't make work on high diff after the patches
lunar hollow
infested isn't great and a crit chance perk isnt really doing enough to help
supple ledge
yeah i figured infested sucked but that's what it rolled so
lunar hollow
it's better than sprint efficiency, block cost reduction m, etc
well i dont think guns can roll bcr but u get the point
it at least does something
lone yarrow
it'll help you clear horde chaff a little faster
supple ledge
finally, bcr on a gun
silver pagoda
so... do crits not apply 2 stacks of soulblaze anymore or something?
lyric burrow
They do last i knew
supple ledge
i should probably mention im pairing this with brain burst so im mainly using it for the stagger and horde clear
lone yarrow
uhhh afaik they said they "fixed soulblaze crits" in like patch 10 or 11, but didn't give anymore info than that
harsh urchin
They do but you get most of your crit from nexus, the 5% is not worth not having a 25% perk
lunar hollow
so... do crits not apply 2 stacks of soulblaze anymore or something?
u p much just take warp nexus because all the other blessings are worthless and 2 damage perks
the 5% crit chance is too marginal to matter unfortunately
lyric burrow
Nexus flurry is best on purg
Perks are usually like flak maniac although some people take unyielding/crit chance
Unyielding might not be worth not with health buffs tho
silver pagoda
yeah that's what I was trying to get at, try to get crit chance if you can swing it, it's at least decent in every situation
maybe the 5% isn't ideal but it's better than being worthless
harsh urchin
Maniac is pretty pointless on flamethrowers
You're not gonna be killing any maniacs with them
I would probably go for flak/unyielding
supple ledge
which one would you say is more important cause if i really want nexus flurry i can only swap out stamina
ill get a better one later after a trip to the plasteel mines
olive ember
Maniac is decent for anti rager
harsh urchin
Then unyielding last
lyric burrow
Purg can do its job fine without the perks yeah
olive ember
It’s not like you are flaming ogryns that often and rager packs are pretty scary nowadays I hear
lyric burrow
I think people got unyielding for boss dps since you can apply a ton of SB
supple ledge
i mainly use brain burst on rager packs if i have the space to do so
lyric burrow
Not sure how the damage is post patch 14
supple ledge
i think it's 1 shot with empowered stack
keen slate
Jesus Christ Scrier's Gaze voice lines are SO FUCKING GOOD
supple ledge
i have never seen even one psyker use scrier's gaze so i have no idea what they even say
keen slate
Let's just say
supple ledge
everyone in qp uses bubble which is fair because qp needs babysitters
lyric burrow
Honestly i didnt even realize psyker says stuff when using scriers
Guess i just block it out lol
olive ember
Some pretty edgy shit iirc
lyric burrow
I really like the walls honestly
supple ledge
oh yeah also not psyker specific but max curio rolls for health and toughness are 21 and 17 right?
hazy cedar
oh yeah also not psyker specific but max curio rolls for health and toughness ar...
YEA
keen slate
Honestly i didnt even realize psyker says stuff when using scriers
I'll try to record some
digital narwhal
Honestly i didnt even realize psyker says stuff when using scriers
“ChAnNeLiNg ThE wArP!!1!!11!1”
brazen warren
"I am unstoppable!"
spice veldt
😡
strong gulch
Seer using scriers is really trigger happy.
Dumped all my money. Heck.
Tried to roll until rating but the rating never showed up.
strong gulch
I had millions and then thought, "it's just sitting there".
lyric burrow
Miss when i had 2 mil saved but then I tried for perfect weapons
long wharf
I've burned through 3mil before, trying to get 370+ whites
lyric burrow
Yeah ive had multiple weapons cost me over a million
harsh urchin
i've probably dropped at least 15k plasteel
lyric burrow
Plasma was a pain for me
lone yarrow
knife ptsd
harsh urchin
on hammers
strong gulch
It's a no from me.
lyric burrow
Illisi took me like 20k plasteel i swear
lone yarrow
i think i burned around 20k plasteel trying to get lacerate IV on the knife
harsh urchin
Plasma was a pain for me
the problem with plasma is that all the stats are important lol
and you also need 80/80
lyric burrow
Yeah thats what cost me
harsh urchin
to hit the breakpoint
lone yarrow
and the same for power cycler IV
harsh urchin
for one-shotting gunner
hazy cedar
what plasma breakpoint is 80/80?
lone yarrow
back in the day
lyric burrow
Blessings are ez cause they dont matter a ton
hazy cedar
o, just headshot em, ezpz
lyric burrow
But the stats are awful to get
harsh urchin
what plasma breakpoint is 80/80?
basically you can always oneshot everything with executioner right?
long wharf
Blessings are ez cause they dont matter a ton
there are very few weapons for which the blessings don't matter
hazy cedar
i dunno i use voice of command
harsh urchin
but if you're using shout; you need 80/80 plasma otherwise the 1400 hp gunner takes 1370 dmg
and survives with 30 hp
from headshot
which is fucking terrible
olive ember
Plasma gun id personally run exe stance
strong gulch
I don't want to even try quantifying how much plasteel I've gone through trying to get blessing.
Played since beta and still trying to roll for surge blessing on void.
lyric burrow
there are very few weapons for which the blessings don't matter
They do matter but theres like 4 fine ones which is easier than finding the exact 2
hazy cedar
it really doesnt need the damage
olive ember
Especially the plasma gun since it can pen soft surfaces
harsh urchin
well it needs the ammo efficiency lol
olive ember
So having wall hacks lets you shoot shit through wall
harsh urchin
the difference between one-shotting a gunner
and 2-shotting it
is twice the ammo consumption
lone yarrow
is twice the ammo consumption
big brain
olive ember
Also yeah breakpoints for tougher targets one shot but also because wall hacks lets you shoot targets through walls
lyric burrow
Yeah plasmas one weakness is ammo
strong gulch
wall hacks is a mutant pushing you through barrier so you can kill everything before it even reaches your team. 
lone yarrow
felt that in my soul
harsh urchin
but as far as my experiments go; those were the only 2 breakpoints I found were meaningful on plasma
lyric burrow
Esp if your the main person taking out elites and whatnot
harsh urchin
- 1-shot headshot gunner breakpoint with shout
- 1-body shot flamer breakpoint with crit
also with shout
lone yarrow
tbh i never really struggled ammo and two shotting gunners
harsh urchin
with executioner's you just one-shot everything all the time
lone yarrow
my most meaningful breakpoint was one shot on crushers
harsh urchin
well you never want to right click on the plasma
because you can just left click twice and it dies and you use less ammo
lone yarrow
big gun big blast = dopamine
harsh urchin
sure
olive ember
Shout is funny cuz voice lines
harsh urchin
but ammo is a real big issue for me on histg
lyric burrow
The toughness stacking on shout is also funny
lone yarrow
i use infiltrate so i can just avoid the gunners and make my team take it all 😭
lets me focus melee more and not use as much ammo
only on prio targets
lately i noticed there aren't massive rooms full of gunners anymore
candid crest
for melkbucks. yes or no? if yes - what to reroll?
strong gulch
My games keep having open room filled with shooters. 🥲
lone yarrow
for melkbucks. yes or no? if yes - what to reroll?
if you got lots of spare tokens yeah, reroll stam and surge
i'd personally swap out surge for warp flurry and stam for flak
lone yarrow
My games keep having open room filled with shooters. 🥲
rip
hazy cedar
transfer peril for warp nexus (or whatever the crit one is) and stam to either flak or unyielding
OR
what kyo said, either way is good
lone yarrow
i like transfer peril on the void since if you're aiming for heads you can just keep rolling out shots
but yeah you can keep surge too since it's the T4 blessing
i wouldn't personally pick it up because i'd be swapping out the best part of the melk weapon 😭
hazy cedar
yeah depends what you want the void for. huge clear? keep transfer peril. taking out specific enemies with some decent boss damage? surge + crit
lone yarrow
^
hazy cedar
of course id buy it either way cause i dont actually have surge yet 😦
lone yarrow
o yeah for sure, if you don't have the T4 blessing you might as well pick it up @candid crest
candid crest
hmm, ty guys. something to ponder in terms of rerolls.
also, melk has this
mk 2 tho. good or not?
lyric burrow
mk 2 tho. good or not?
Its worse than mk4 in my exp but still good
The real downside is h2 is worse that mk4s h2
So i just do h1>special h1 since h1>h2 spam is worse
For single target
Other than that they are like the same
strong gulch
h2 of the mk 2 dueling sword is better for hordes.
The h1 on the mk 2 doesn't hit as hard as the mk 4.
hazy cedar
Warp siphon with Scrier sounds good
Using scriers eats your charged and doesn't reduce the cooldowm. If you can build them back up quickly enough tho..
strong gulch
The melk mk 2 is decent tho. I'd swap precog to uncanny.
lyric burrow
I thought they made mk2 ds h1 damage the same as mk4
Or they were supposed to
Maybe im remembering wrong
strong gulch
Scriers + DD for maximum gotta go fast.
lyric burrow
This is the way
strong gulch
Maybe im remembering wrong
You are rememebering right, but they didn't buff the mk 2 and mk 5 to meet mk 4 damage.
They buffed it SLIGHTLY.
keen slate
Using scriers eats your charged and doesn't reduce the cooldowm. If you can buil...
I mean, why would you use Scrier without horde
strong gulch
rip
lyric burrow
Mk2 still fun
strong gulch
yee
fickle onyx
Do all blaze swords share the blessing pool? Like if I unlock it on one its unlocked on all?
kind jay
yes
fickle onyx
Thank god
keen slate
I was disappointed when I found out that staves don't
fickle onyx
I was disappointed when I found out that staves don't
Guess my surprise when I tried to change blessing on voidstrike
I was not happy
willow hazel
So Psykers can do boss damage
keen slate
"So" ?
robust sierra
you guys think I should pick up either of these from melk for warp flurry on both respective staffs?
kind jay
blessings are based on weapon name (trauma/void don't share, but "force sword" does, "devil claw" does... etc)
lone yarrow
i wouldn't for warp flurry III
robust sierra
so I should shoot for IV?
lone yarrow
you can just tap blues on staves and hopefully get it that way
keen slate
Good God this just reminded me of love village
Love town maybe?
robust sierra
you can just tap blues on staves and hopefully get it that way
alright thanks
fickle onyx
Love town maybe?
Ah yes that
keen slate
Tomerry
steel flame
So Psykers can do boss damage
Well of course they can
willow hazel
Well of course they can
Just need to get in a game without a thunderhammer so we have time to do boss damage
fickle onyx
I cast testicular torsion
Did ya brick your fav staff
steel flame
Just need to get in a game without a thunderhammer so we have time to do boss da...
Ikr
spice pivot
Did ya brick your fav staff
Maybe....
strong gulch
That escalation reminds me of "I'm At Soup!"
steel flame
God I love that skit
honest gorge
is this any good?
unique mist
I WILL find myself in a lobby with only psykers
Happened to me lol
lyric burrow
is this any good?
It's not great, finesse is a little low and blessings arent ideal for it
spice pivot
Happened to me lol
Same, but I was levelling up my Veteran so
unique mist
that does not count
spice pivot
Yeah
unique mist
also we failed the mission lol
spice pivot
That too
Playing COD in Darktide was wack
By the Throne
I am struggling to think of ways to make a good skilltree
*build a good
unique mist
For psyker?
spice pivot
Yeah, one that I really groove with
unique mist
well what have you found fun
steel flame
Yeah, one that I really groove with
What kind of build do you want?
unique mist
honest gorge
It's not great, finesse is a little low and blessings arent ideal for it
okay thanks
lyric burrow
okay thanks
If you can get slaughterer + unstable/uncanny it wouldn't be awful
Base illisi is good
But its not amazing
keen slate
I'm trying to figure this out
spice pivot
Ball Bustin'
steel flame
I have a crit laspistol build I use that I play with like a zealot. It's loads of fun
keen slate
If I would be able to get 2 more points and get Warp Battery
it should make Scrier somewhat infinite
unique mist
pretty sure scriers is still bugged with warp charges and they do nothing for scriers regen
keen slate
or at least long
lyric burrow
I have a crit laspistol build I use that I play with like a zealot. It's loads o...
Oh ive been meaning to try las pistol on psyker instead of vraks 3 what blessings do you run
unique mist
haven't heard that they fixed it or anything
steel flame
Oh ive been meaning to try las pistol on psyker instead of vraks 3 what blessing...
Dumdum and infernus
steel flame
With unyielding
unique mist
pretty sure scriers is still bugged with warp charges and they do nothing for sc...
@keen slate
lyric burrow
Scriers/anything crit related im guessing
keen slate
<@242398968955404289>
yes, i saw that
still worth trying
but there's just nothing to remove
FS please increase level cap to 35
lyric burrow
Ok cool thats basically what i use with vraks
steel flame
Assail is great for staggers to set up quick kills
lyric burrow
Is your second las pistol perk crit chance
steel flame
And it can stack dumdum with las out
steel flame
Is your second las pistol perk crit chance
Yea
lyric burrow
steel flame
It absolutely fucks up bosses
unique mist
@keen slate tell us what weapons you're running with it
lyric burrow
For bosses
steel flame
Mainly there for the carapace
unique mist
And also why, when and what are you using BB for
steel flame
Laspistol is gonna be the boss killer
keen slate
But I have alternative
keen slate
like when are you popping scriers
Hordes
unique mist
and doing what with it
unique mist
no like are you using your blitz, purgatus or just melee
keen slate
Melee and sometimes purgatus
purg if soulblaze disappears
I want to get this somehow
But don't know where to dump
steel flame
<:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
The fun part with laspistol is that you can just lean all the way into empathic evasion cause as long as you are hitting something you are immune to ranged damage
unique mist
I want to get this somehow
the other one is better
Trust
Here
hrm wait
I have no idea
Do warp charges persist through the duration of Scriers
or are they consumed as soon as you activate it
unique mist
because if they arent consumed till scriers ends I'd choose the -6% peril per stack for warp charges, so you gen less peril from warp attacks while in scriers
if they are consumed, I'd stick with toughness on warp charge gain
lyric burrow
They don't iirc
Since you lose warp charges once you press F
Which is unfort for Synergy
unique mist
yeah so I'd go toughness on warp charge gain
In the future though
They might fix it to work like that
So then I would switch to the less peril gen per stack
keen slate
because if they arent consumed till scriers ends I'd choose the -6% peril per st...
They do get consumed
unique mist
so stick with the build i posted
chrome linden
Purgatus or Voidstrike?
keen slate
I'm not sure if they even reduce scrier's cooldown
WAIT
@unique mist THEY DON"T
???????
Cooldown with 4 stacks - 27
Cooldown without stacks - 27
Why is it even 27
It says 30
Is it me stupid or what
lyric burrow
Are you running the cdr aura
keen slate
No
lyric burrow
Might just be a bug then
keen slate
Gunners + max health on all
lyric burrow
Assuming your just popping it
steel flame
Isn't there a cool down node?
keen slate
Lmao fat shark
keen slate
No
I don't think there's even ability cdr nodes
You get 10% from Seer's Presence
But I'm running with Prescience
The only thing close to cdr is this
But it's on-kill
And it doesn't even work when Scier's active
???????
Certified 
moment
steel flame
I'm not surprised
keen slate
You can't reduce Scrier's cooldown
it's always 27 seconds
maybe curios do
but i don't have any to check
steel flame
All their code is still assuming that the ult end instantly because it used to only be shriek
unique mist
You can't reduce Scrier's cooldown
As I said warp charges dont work with reducing its cooldown
lyric burrow
Warp charge code is probably still a little funky too
steel flame
So of course their recycled code doesn't work for an ult that doesn't start cooldown right away
keen slate
Well
lyric burrow
Vet has always had that kind of cooldown which might be why it works fine
keen slate
Now we know that FS coders are Ogryns
steel flame
Try starting scrier at 100% peril and see if the cool down is reduced
keen slate
You mean start scrier with stacks while at 100%?
keen slate
IT DOES
steel flame
Called it
steel flame
Fuckin called it
lyric burrow
Im glad i play this game everyday
steel flame
They just didn't adjust the code for an ult that isn't the scream
brazen warren
if it worked the way it was intended with flat cdr, you could hit almost 100% uptime
lol
brazen warren
zoom
keen slate
Fair
Maybe we should report this somehow?
People crying about Empowered Psionics being too strong
Meanwhile 2 other keystones are just
1 broken and 1 is poorly designed
lyric burrow
Can submit it to the fatshark forum
They have a place for reporting bugs and ive heard they are actually pretty good about acknowledging them
keen slate
Guess i'll just stick to this
Warp infused Vet's shout
Wish this one was obtainable with any blitz
Hmm
Since none of the keystone really work well with scrier what do you think about it?
keen slate
what if your target pops up on other side of the map?
on random ass soldier
sitting in the cover
behind the wall
steel flame
Never had issues with it
keen slate
Unless you don't use staves
lyric burrow
I also run DD
steel flame
I dont use staves with scrier
keen slate
but what's the point of not using them if you're just worse vet
keen slate
I dunno, seems kinda bs to me
lyric burrow
Scriers + DD isnt busted or anything but its fine. Ive even used it with a staff + DS and it was fine
steel flame
I deal more damage than every vet I party with post patch 13
spice veldt
if you're taking guns that have good finesse, then it's quite good
lunar hollow
scriers with iag is fun
steel flame
Unless Darcy kills me
lyric burrow
Columnus?
spice veldt
e.g., laspistol, IAGs (columnus in particular because of its 4/5-shot crit string), etc.
lyric burrow
Ep with assail will be better
But scriers plus dd is pretty fun and is very serviceable
ornate hamlet
lyric burrow
Makes ds able to do horde clear too
steel flame
@spice veldt we found a new quirk of scrier. if you have warp charges, but trigger scrier at 100% peril so it ends instantly sciers cool down IS reduced
silent chasm
do spark'eads just have less stamina than everyone else
my friend's going on about his vet having like 8 stamina bars on a weapon
spice veldt
<@297182781346152448> we found a new quirk of scrier. if you have warp charges,...
guess we know for certain what causes it lol
psykers have the lowest base stamina
of +1
silent chasm
but the weapon has no stamina bonuses
lyric burrow
He probably has + 3 stam curio
steel flame
Really?
spice veldt
vets have something along the lines of +2 or something
they basically have the best stamina characteristics if you both regen delay nodes (only for deranged people)
lunar hollow
guess we know for certain what causes it lol
CDR used to not work on exe stance because the cooldown couldnt start until the ult was over
same sorta thing going on here i think
lyric burrow
Vet melee feels actually absurd now
spice veldt
if they have 8 bar than yeah prob some +stam perk on either their melee or curio
not that I use any vet melee other than psword
steel flame
guess we know for certain what causes it lol
Pretty sure they never adjusted quicken code for an ult that doesn't start cool down immediately
lethal folio
I would happily trade a cooldown increase to 40s for allowing cooldown to work during the buff.
strong gulch
Oh. I forgot to use my ability. Didn't use it a single time last match.
lyric burrow
not that I use any vet melee other than psword
Mk 6 psword feels like cheating now
lunar hollow
Mk 6 psword feels like cheating now
it feels so good, and then u make a bad positioning error and have to sweat ur ass off to recover
lyric burrow
I do think thats an ok tradeoff
spice veldt
i'm abusing thy grenade be swift for now
lyric burrow
Esp now that his stam regen is more forgiving
lunar hollow
it makes for a very fun weapon
and it actually gives u a reason to run a stamina curio
because much of its defensive capability is tied into blocking
rather than dodge spamming
because iirc after 2 dodges on a psword u already start getting dodge shortening even though you "have" 4 effective dodges
lyric burrow
Im curious if they knock it back down with keystone update
lunar hollow
the mk6 psword is in a relatively good spot imo, because its downsides will fuck you up in some situations
and it has a more interactive moveset
lunar hollow
my favorite part is the activation cancel into block
because for a long time the mk6 had a like 100ms or so longer activation animation
but now u can do it faster than a mk3 iirc
spice veldt
i'm not cool enough to manage my stamina for that
since i'd just get guardbroken if I tried to do that
lyric burrow
It was actually like 4 seconds
ornate hamlet
lyric burrow
i'm not cool enough to manage my stamina for that
What has illisi done to you
spice veldt
What has illisi done to you
🥺
lyric burrow
or the head trauma from getting bonked by a crusher
lunar hollow
i bring a stam curio with the mk6 always tbf
spice veldt
~~or the head trauma from getting bonked by a crusher~~
you BITCH
lyric burrow
Yeah i brought one pre patch 13 even
lunar hollow
it will save ur ass from getting beaten up by a rager
lunar hollow
Yeah i brought one pre patch 13 even
in the world before the burster infested damage buff i had one hp curio for sanity reasons
because u were damn near guaranteed to get hit if you didn't shoot a 3+ burster chain in time
late field
Anyone else having a problem staying connected in a match?
spice veldt
rip vets and psykers
spice veldt
one should strive to be a virtuous person
lunar hollow
vet can get better base stam and equal stam regen delay to psykers
spice veldt
vet can get better base stam and equal stam regen delay to psykers
those bastards
how dare the vets
strong gulch
Anyone else having a problem staying connected in a match?
yee
lunar hollow
now that deadshot
austere burrow
Taking both stamina delay nodes as vet is kind of a meme
lunar hollow
functions like it should
austere burrow
You give up a lot for it
lunar hollow
u can actually run stamina curios with it
lunar hollow
Taking both stamina delay nodes as vet is kind of a meme
there's like 4-5 mandatory nodes in the vet tree and its v annoying
austere burrow
Ya exactly
ornate hamlet
u can actually run stamina curios with it
austere burrow
Not enough points
keen slate
Hmm
lunar hollow
stamina curios on vet are banging
its the one class i would recommend it depending on build
keen slate
You can worship Slaanesh and still serve Emperor 🤔
lyric burrow
Yeah running deadshot with stam curio feels good
ornate hamlet
You can worship Slaanesh and still serve Emperor 🤔
echo turtle
its the one class i would recommend it depending on build
I've been running vet without the extra stam and its been fine
lyric burrow
there's like 4-5 mandatory nodes in the vet tree and its v annoying
I dont have a single build that reaches the bottom nodes lol
lunar hollow
Yeah running deadshot with stam curio feels good
u can build for an agri shotgun crit without slug to 1 tap a reaper
its deranged
lunar hollow
I've been running vet without the extra stam and its been fine
u dont need it but if u have a mk6 psword or a deadshot weapon it helps a lot
keen slate
Slaanesh is god of perfection
echo turtle
I've been running chainsword and plasma
keen slate
What if you want to be perfect at killing enemies of Emperor?
lunar hollow
yea u probs dont need it much then
esp since plasma just doesnt work with deadshot for some reason
veteran exclusive gun
does not work with one of the build-defining veteran talents
echo turtle
I just grabbed a Dclaw and I don't think I need it in any situation now
lyric burrow
Wonder if its cause your not considered ADSing
lunar hollow
@spice veldt do u know if vet's extra charge on infiltrate thing is working as intended
when u load into a match/psykh the 2nd charge isnt on cooldown
it starts a cooldown timer immediately
for some fucked up reason
lyric burrow
I have never played a game with so many mechanics that explains none of them
spice veldt
<@297182781346152448> do u know if vet's extra charge on infiltrate thing is wor...
no idea
i'm shouter
a screamer
HIYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
keen slate
Slaanesh is bad as long as your desires and wishes are bad
echo turtle
Half the fun of Darktide is deciphering the nechanics
echo turtle
Because half the shit is hidden
lunar hollow
and slowly raises as the ult timer goes down
lyric burrow
Arco i thought your vet arc ended when bolter died
lunar hollow
he got a taste of the overshield
lyric burrow
Ah fair
echo turtle
Like how brutal momentum now allows you to get full damage on targets you kill with a weak spot hit
spice veldt
Arco i thought your vet arc ended when bolter died
my psyker brain was murdered by the lack of any mechanical engagement
echo turtle
The supposed nerf, was actually a massive buff
spice veldt
and also they made the mk6 able to two-shot crushers
lunar hollow
my psyker brain was murdered by the lack of any mechanical engagement
lmao
spice veldt
so my main worry of vet not having a strong generalist build was washed away
lunar hollow
Like how brutal momentum now allows you to get full damage on targets you kill w...
its now much more rewarding of good aim/animation knowledge rather than basically being a tool to have infinite safety in a horde
echo turtle
It's good at everything
spice veldt
i prefer something that has the psword in it since it's good hordeclear + dunking on crushers without any ammo cost
lunar hollow
hmmm
lyric burrow
Yeah psword fits into like any build
lunar hollow
i might run raking fire laspistol on an infil build
echo turtle
Sword and plasma
spice veldt
i like weapons that I can use for 90% of the match in both of my slots
echo turtle
Boom
lunar hollow
mk6/plasma is the meta for scab melee only
echo turtle
Literally plasma and any weapon with horde clear is a great way to play vet
lunar hollow
v funny
lyric burrow
My only concern with plasma in melee only is ammo
Although mk6 probably solves that
echo turtle
Plasma slaps
lunar hollow
My only concern with plasma in melee only is ammo
hence the mk6
u swap to it in low intensity engagements to pick guys off and regen ammo
spice veldt
mk6 grindset https://streamable.com/mvg5of
spice veldt
btw the name of josho's zealot is 'dar'
keen slate
Hold on
lyric burrow
Is your reticle for an auto gun the fucking shotgun reticle
spare sail
mk6 grindset https://streamable.com/mvg5of
are you playing on a ps2 tf
spice veldt
isn't that a nice coincidence that there's a zealot with the same name who got one-shot by a crusher through his overshield
spice veldt
Is your reticle for an auto gun the fucking shotgun reticle
best hipfire reticle
lunar hollow
isn't that a nice coincidence that there's a zealot with the same name who got o...
fuck u
cosmic cedar
I don't understand brain burst, what is the difference between LT and RT? Trying to kill pox hounds but when I charge LT no attack happens and when I press LT + RT I lose charge with no attack?
spice veldt
as far as I can tell, the inaccuracy is in a square area that pretty much aligns with the shotgun crosshair
the LT + RT losing charge is a bug that got introduced somehow with the skill tree update iirc
I don't think it ever happened before that
cosmic cedar
Wonderful
lunar hollow
mk6 grindset https://streamable.com/mvg5of
wait who the fuck is that crusher aiming at
what the hell
spice veldt
wait who the fuck is that crusher aiming at
me but you dodged into it i think lmao
keen slate
Can anybody explain me how this works?
lunar hollow
dude i get fucked over so many times
keen slate
Does purgatus apply different fire effect?
spice veldt
the LT is a pre-charge and allows you to charge your brainburst without having to lock onto an enemy
i haven't used brainburst lately so i don't know if LT is slower than RT nowadays
lyric burrow
Instinctual dodges def fuck me sometimes
spice veldt
right into the bosoms of the crusher
lunar hollow
knife is an enabler for degenerate gameplay
spice veldt
shut up yoshi
lyric burrow
Esp when im not 100% sure where its coming from
lunar hollow
like spamming those big floaty dodges
spice veldt
oh ok good
lyric burrow
shut up yoshi
Excuse me
spice veldt
don't worry about it
just a preemptive attack
like shanking a stranger in an alleyway before they shank you
lyric burrow
I already made my joke
keen slate
Wildfire is somehow inconsistent
strong gulch
Wanted to try a different combo of curios and Hadron DIDN'T brick it.
lyric burrow
I wouldnt make it again
solar sand
mk2s any good over mk4s?
spice veldt
Wildfire is somehow inconsistent
wildfire stuff according to pygex's guide
- Only triggers after death animation. Most notably a bug.
- Needs at least 2 stacks on the target to spread the fire.
- Hard cap of 4. You cannot transfer more than 4 stacks total per dying target.
- Can only target enemies with 4 or less stacks. Enemies with 4 will just refresh in duration and consume a stack.
- Stacks are always spread evenly among suitable targets if possible.
- 5m radius from blazed target.
- Will be spread by corpses if they have been lit after death when the Soulblaze effect ends on them.
celest junco
Does purgatus apply different fire effect?
purgatus does apply the same soulblaze iirc, just used the pyro build to get warp battery today
lyric burrow
wildfire stuff according to pygex's guide
* Only triggers after death animatio...
Wildfire moment
solar sand
wildfire stuff according to pygex's guide
* Only triggers after death animatio...
so at best it can only apply 1 stack to 4 targets?
lyric burrow
Wasnt it good for like a week
keen slate
wildfire stuff according to pygex's guide
* Only triggers after death animatio...
Wait, they share stacks?
so if target has 4 stacks
it will only affect 4 enemies?
spice veldt
mhm
keen slate
and each of these 4 enemies will get 1 stack?
keen slate
BRUH
spice veldt
ikr
keen slate
what's the point of this then?
foggy trout
👍 seemsgood
keen slate
it barely deals damage
spice veldt
some people like it but I have never liked it
keen slate
I mean
spice veldt
but it's 1/30th of your build this time so it's whatever
lyric burrow
It doesnt work as intended
Or even like it says it does
And its just never been fixed
spice veldt
it seems like they were worried about it being strong
keen slate
The question is
spice veldt
and tacked on these extra conditions without changing the description prob for localization reasons
keen slate
Is there any class that works entirely as it was planned?
spice veldt
too bad that perilous combustion exists lul
spice veldt
Is there any class that works entirely as it was planned?
😔
keen slate
Hope they'll fix classes before Tyranids (Please god I hope Vox teased Lictor)
supple ledge
i haven't used brainburst lately so i don't know if LT is slower than RT nowaday...
it very often just doesn't work, it kinda sucks in my experience
left click is pretty much strictly better
spice veldt
pretty much
even before the skill tree update, I could use the time I spent pre-charging by just doing other stuff
supple ledge
there's a limited amount of situations it would be good in if it actually worked properly
but if you have any amount of lag good luck hitting anything with it
spice veldt
at least the peril cost was normalized, but it would be interesting if they kept the slower charge
supple ledge
it is kinda cool that you can charge it without any peril gain with empowered psionics
it still sucks tho
lunar hollow
even before the skill tree update, I could use the time I spent pre-charging by ...
basically the only use for it was in a low-vis/LOS area with a special u wanted to kill
and this required u to literally only have to kill said special
supple ledge
if i see low visibility i'd rather just run wallhacks vet
lunar hollow
which doesnt happen very often
supple ledge
but ig in a pinch
keen slate
How well should this work with Scrier?
severe moss
Bricked?
keen slate
Somewhat saveable
lyric burrow
Not bricked if you put flurry over run and gun and cara over infested
But not perfect
Cara/maniac
Over infested
Unyielding if you really need it wouldnt reccomend it as the primary perk tho
lyric burrow
It already does really good flak damage
One of its strengths
Dont think its needed as a perk anymore
severe moss
Maybe going maniac is the safest bet to get the extra damage vs ragers and others
lyric burrow
Esp if you run ep bug
supple ledge
How well should this work with Scrier?
i heard this was a borderline necessity when i brought it up in vermintide
so, it's good
keen slate
There's never enough damage to blast heretic out of all possible plains of existance
severe moss
Not bricked if you put flurry over run and gun and cara over infested
I got flurry 3 only
But still better then run and gun
keen slate
This is scuffed, but I gotta try it
lapis bay
force greatsword confirmed?
brazen warren
that is a power greatsword
the cabling is the give away, force weapons have circuits on the blade, power is those white mesh coverred cables
acoustic spade
Ofcourse this is the first time I see Surge(Blessing) :X
shy prairie
steal it..
spare sail
i feel that
shy prairie
put it on your voidstrike..
acoustic spade
doesnt work like that
keen slate
What do we call it?
spare sail
the murder shit sword
keen slate
or this
acoustic spade
it do
Atleast Transfer Peril surrendered from Void Strike is separate from the one on Trauma Staffs, and Warp Nexus from Purgatus, if surrendered, cannot be put into a Trauma staff
shy prairie
fuck I forgot about that bullshit
keen slate
I still like this
acoustic spade
I have not
shy prairie
staves should share pools NOW
keen slate
Is this still weapons customisations mod?
Yes, extended one
restive slate
Nuts
acoustic spade
since I havent seen a single Warp Nexus blessing on a Trauma Staff
shy prairie
acoustic spade
but I do have a Warp Nexus IV Purgatus
acoustic spade
Fear the Crit Purgatus
analog agate
Are people able to do these funky skins with random? they aren't in my options to pick individually
valid talon
Monster Hunter: Warhammer
keen slate
Are people able to do these funky skins with random? they aren't in my options t...
Extended Extended Weapon Customization
Double extended is intentional
analog agate
wait, there is a mod for the mod?
keen slate
Kinda yea
analog agate
lol
acoustic spade
there is a plugin for the add-on
acoustic spade
keen slate
Glaive
next mist
going back to the "poor vet" topic
why ever play vet when even melee psyker outperforms you at your own job 😭
(yes this is also a flex)
keen slate
Why we still don't have any two handed axes/swords
next mist
like u can just kill every elite before they can fire their guns lol
next mist
I get roughly the same mission clear times on both vet and psyker
its more like
why play them on auric damnation when you get outperformed by every class
i see them go down way too often cause they dont have tools to defend themselves when swarmed
spice veldt
probably because they're pub players
next mist
true!
spice veldt
i wouldn't make judgements on classes based on pub players
next mist
vet attracts the stinkiest gamers tbf
spice veldt
and you can certainly make strong builds with vet
just that it's harder to path into them compared to a class like ogryn where it's harder for you to avoid the OP stuff
keen slate
like u can just kill every elite before they can fire their guns lol
Richtofen?
next mist
yeah but i play vet a fair bit too and nothing ive tried really... does anything exciting
spice veldt
it's a fairly bog-standard shoot and melee and you have a boom grenade for the most part
it is what it is
valid talon
I mean vet can have a lot of utility, being a good special sniper, grenadier, ammo resupplier, and lifesaver all at once
next mist
THEY EVEN USED ALL THEIR KRAKS ON THE THREE BOSSES 😭 and even the low-performing zealot did more damage
spice veldt
they made the mk6 quite good so I'm on the vet grindset for now
valid talon
Voice of command is really good at giving your teammates a solid buff with quick CD
next mist
idk man i just see them sucking way too often and i play this game too much
yeah the only vets i trust to not be babysat are plasma gun / melee vets with shout
severe moss
Ok no great but decent
lyric burrow
they made the mk6 quite good so I'm on the vet grindset for now
I dont think ive run a mk 6 build that did less than 500k damage lol
valid talon
A talent they have gives a free grenade every 60 seconds, so on a 20 min match thats 20 extra nades
spice veldt
i run columnus IAG + mk6 psword myself
valid talon
Scavenger adds up really fast on auric damnation lol
Easily like 200-300% ammo regen per mission
stuck bridge
people just abandon games the moment they see you have a surge equipped now
valid talon
If you're a class that uses ammo its great
stuck bridge
wish they never touched that staff
valid talon
Whats wrong with surge staff?
severe moss
people just abandon games the moment they see you have a surge equipped now
bitch made lmao