psyker-class

[idle bay]

100 of every kind of mission

[plucky flax]

Yeah I'm just saying it does extend.

[neat summit]

Purge staff super worth

[idle bay]

And there are only 1 reapir and 1 investigation mission on whole game - so they severly lagging behind in numbers

[plucky flax]

So there are more tedious stuff.

[gray island]

yeah idk man you dont have to like the BB, I'm just kinda used to it. I think its usefull to peek corners cause you can back out of line of site to finish bursts. ITs definitely a situational thing and not the focus of the build.

[plucky flax]

I spammed hab dreyko so I got 250 investigation quite fast.

[idle bay]

Yeah...

[normal matrix]

i run it with shield and the CDR perk

two shields, because im cool like that

[neat summit]

BB only runs into use problems when you have a good veteran that can delete all specials on demands

[plucky flax]

The only penances I miss are 250 disruptions and repairs.

[gray island]

i'm thinking the 2 sheild would be nice for purge staff to spread stacks

[neat summit]

Which is basically never

[normal matrix]

a good anyone honestly

which yes is rare, often it is nice to have in the back pocket

[neat summit]

I find uses for it fairly regularly. Ogryns and bombers.

[normal matrix]

dont get me started on ragers and maulers

[neat summit]

We don’t talk about that lmao

[gray island]

poke the rager with the dueling sword and ur good to go

[neat summit]

I bring Deimos instead of DS for deflector but essentially the same

[normal matrix]

nah dog im the psyker i get to be behind everyone else while THEY soak up rager strikes lmao

[neat summit]

I’m typically in the front

Specials end up being much easier to pick out when there’s no horde

And I can push up to shooting lines really easily

[normal matrix]

i'm often in the middle UNLESS there are big scary melee enemies which will flatten me into psychoactive dust

[neat summit]

Yah we are always on watch for the crusher/mauler/rager brigade

We reposition big time

[normal matrix]

you bet your sweet bippy i do lmao

[valid talon]

Thats why you get smite and trivialize the game lol

[neat summit]

I can’t stand smite

[valid talon]

Neither can they, which is why its great support

[neat summit]

Yah I find support crews fail auric qp damns more than kill crews

Smitekers always seem to be super inconsistent

[normal matrix]

this is why i BB and use the fucking ORB staff

https://tenor.com/view/pondering-pondering-my-orb-my-orb-orb-pondering-my-pondering-my-orb-orb-gif-24060364

[neat summit]

Oooooorb

I find smite takes too long to chain and too long to stun, then you have to be constantly quelling and the stun isn’t great against auric mixed hordes

So if your team is incompetent, you’re just delaying an L

Whereas I can just kill everything instead.

[gray island]

empowered BB on maulers.

[neat summit]

Webm

[gray island]

am I being shamed on my free capture software??

[neat summit]

It’s just that webm doesn’t work on mobile without other apps

[gray island]

o

[neat summit]

I imagine it’s the EP BB 2 shotting

[gray island]

yep

[sonic coral]

they work fine on android

just an apple thing

[neat summit]

🍎

[spare light]

I'm simply unable to do auric maelstrom lol

and I don't want to be THAT guy..

[neat summit]

I don't typically do auric maelstroms. I mostly play QP and auric maelstrom qp queue is missing way too many chromosomes for me to enjoy it.

[spare light]

Same tbf

[neat summit]

Games take 20-30 minutes and I don't want to waste 10-15 or more on a L

[neat summit]

beautiful

EP BB is my jam

[spare light]

EP BB is a blast for sure

But we all can't deny in 80% of the time it's a bit obsolete

[gray island]

oh definitely

its really just the emergency attack for sniper for me 95% of the time

[spare light]

Same

Or a bomber

[neat summit]

idk most queues are filled with people who can't shoot specials

[gray island]

cringe scaredy boy brains go boom

[spare light]

but but horde

[neat summit]

The amount of times I've felt obsolete with BB is really low

The amount of players I queue with that mag dump hordes in auric damns without targeting specials is extremely high

But occasionally you get the extermanitus veteran with plasma that is just running through auto deleting every special in the zip code

and I'm not one to complain

[spare light]

True, gotta love them

Or a knife/revolver zealot that's actually protecting everyone

[neat summit]

Super uncommon but yes

If we get the auto deletus player... my life goal is to protect them. Where they go I go. Not a hair on their head shall be touched as long as they are clearing specials.

[spare light]

Too many times have I died cause I'm holding off a horde without any issue, only to get hit by something in my back

[wary sleet]

I try whenever I go on my vet. But sometimes that single little asshole slips through and slaps my face.

[spare light]

AND PEOPLE DONT FUCKING PING

Aaaaaaaaa

[neat summit]

I ping everything

[spare light]

Same

[neat summit]

even if I'm BB it

[spare light]

Just to make sure

[neat summit]

If a target dies while I BB, sick

[gray island]

i changed my fire button to also be my ping. now I'm extra annoying

[neat summit]

😂

[plucky flax]

Solo queue auric maelstrom gamers are built different.

[sonic coral]

I do that as stealth vet with revolver, anecdotal but I feel like it's more beneficial to my team to be able to reposition and pickup people or conk specials/get the group out of a tight spot than shout even - shout is fantastic, but when people get buffed they also seem to get overconfident and play stupid

[neat summit]

chromosome deficient is the phrase

[spare light]

Is that a humble brag cause you usually do that?

[plucky flax]

[neat summit]

I do stealth vet plasma and same deal.

[sonic coral]

go invisible and snip the snipers, rez the guy right next to a boss in the middle of 15 ragers, etc.

[neat summit]

way easier to solo carry

[sonic coral]

(plus I carry 3 krak)

[gray island]

wish me luck

[neat summit]

this is the way

[plucky flax]

It clutching practice!

[frank fulcrum]

[gray island]

I'm too broke to hit Orange

[neat summit]

🪦

[frank fulcrum]

whats the first blessing

[gray island]

20 plasteel

[sonic coral]

oh yea and obviously stealth is such an incredible lifesaver for actual objectives, especially on hi shock dam type rounds

[frank fulcrum]

any changes needed to blessings?

[bleak tulip]

not if you want a meme stick

[sonic coral]

no amount of temporary stagger and toughness helps with some situations

[frank fulcrum]

i do love blue fire

is it a good base tho @bleak tulip

idk stat lines for voidstrike, im a surge otp

[lyric burrow]

Thats a good statline

[spare light]

Having a level 29 in auric damnation (:

[bleak tulip]

quell is nice to have, dump stat for normal void is blast radius but not for meme blaze void hence my question

[frank fulcrum]

ah gotcha

[lyric burrow]

Could make a transfer peril void to help compensate for quell speed

[plucky flax]

True aim blaze void memer

[bleak tulip]

more shots more crits more fire

[lyric burrow]

More fire good

[gray island]

whats everyone curios looking like. I just have 3 stacks of basicaly identiacal rolls

[steel flame]

Well.......i really love Blazing spirits void staff. But the problem is they buffed void damage so hard it actually nerfed blazing spirits void cause it kills more stuff than it sets on fire

[lyric burrow]

I run gunner/sniper res with toughness regen

[neat summit]

I haven't honestly checked my curios in months. I forgot they exist 😂

[lyric burrow]

/extra toughness or health

Might swap out toughness regen on psyker tho they have so much already

[neat summit]

I do run wound curios on veteran because I find it funny to have more wounds than the vet/ogryn players.

[bleak tulip]

H T T
all health and toughness perks and CDR

I dont personally respect toughness regen at all on psyker since you just gotta kill shit to go back to full

[neat summit]

purg psykers don't really struggle with toughness regen in my experience

[bleak tulip]

no psyker should

[neat summit]

agreed

[brave fiber]

I take 3x gunner res because fuck them

[neat summit]

bomber res so you can reduce their kick damage

[plucky flax]

I'm one of those with triple toughness regen on psyker (and zealot too)

[gray island]

gang

[obtuse pulsar]

my upgrade on that god roll

[atomic blaze]

got this from a damnation lvl completion

[bleak tulip]

could be worse

shame about infested but if you get a good second blessing its salvagable

[summer prairie]

very high chance it's just nexus/flurry

[light cargo]

This is what I'm currently running. Though I want to switch one of the healths out with Stam+3

[rare storm]

Why run 3 health curios tho

[light cargo]

Because I haven't gotten anything else better

[rare storm]

With the toughness regen capability of psykers would 2 toughness curios be better?

[rare storm]

May hadron bless you sibling

[light cargo]

[rare storm]

All things considered, I think you can change out the mutant resist tho

[light cargo]

I was thinking about that after posting. I haven't paid much attention to my curios in quite a while tbh

[rare storm]

Don't worry most of us almost forget curios are a thing

[ornate hamlet]

4 malice missions failed in a row

[atomic blaze]

malice?

how

[ornate hamlet]

special teammates

[atomic blaze]

ahhh ok makes sense then

[ornate hamlet]

some ogryn attacking daemonhost on purpose when theres tons of elites etc

[atomic blaze]

hahah

was he at least a shield ogryn?

[ornate hamlet]

nope

the insta die type of ogryn

[atomic blaze]

damn sadge

[atomic blaze]

thats what i run but might change hp for more toughness when i get another high toughness curio

[ornate hamlet]

some zealot instead of helping just fights random mobs when he coulda shot dog etc

is toughness regen speed good now

remember it being useless

[atomic blaze]

ye

it feels usefull rn

but running the warp kills that regen toughness is always good to have

with needles

btw what other properties does crushers have other than carapace? anyone know?

[lyric burrow]

Just cara afaik

[atomic blaze]

damn ok ty

[lyric burrow]

Neck might be unyielding but thats not a huge deal

[gray island]

how are yall setting up the back to back curio layouts?

[atomic blaze]

cuz i wanna change out infested to combat shit

but im thinking between carapace or unyeilding but idk

[lyric burrow]

Cause if i remember they have a weakspot in the neck think it only matters for like autoguns tho

[atomic blaze]

ah ok

[spare light]

Sustained fire?

You want nexus when you run surge don't you?

[atomic blaze]

better than what was their before

still changing shit around

[spare light]

I'd change sustained for nexus and infested for either +flak or crit chance

[small whale]

Nah warp flurry is better than Nexus

[atomic blaze]

ah ok ty

[light cargo]

I'm just using the screen snip tool and pasting it into powerpoint

[gray island]

ah ok ty

[atomic blaze]

im just doing screen snip and putting it into windows paint XD

[gray island]

the border on yours looked like it was in-game interface

[atomic blaze]

i tried to make it look good but i fcked up it a little

[gray island]

nah its clean, i thought it was in game

UI psyker in the chat

[flat moth]

Guys a have a problem and i couldnt find the results for that and i saw other peeps having the same issue, my right ckick randomlsy stop registering the input

making purgatus staff unusable

[junior flume]

Hey there, what force swords should I build? Just hit 30 with the class. Thanks!

[flat moth]

reinstalled, deleted my third party mouse program nothing helps

[pine nova]

illisi is the best

[brave fiber]

Deimos for single target, illisi for wave clear

Don’t bother with obscurus

[pine nova]

typically your main single target damage is gonna come from your primary though

so having a good wave clear melee is good

[brave fiber]

Unless you run purgatus

[pine nova]

tru

[brave fiber]

Or trauma to an extent

[chrome dust]

Purgatus, brain burst, dueling sword :v

[spare light]

man, what a shame

[brave fiber]

Damn dude

Rough

[spare light]

that one hurts

[pine nova]

fuck it, ball with it. Hope you get flurry 4

charge rate isn't the end of the world

[spare light]

it's pretty big on trauma

[pine nova]

oh, somehow I misread that as void

[spare light]

[frank fulcrum]

good or bad?

in terms of stat lines, idk if im at break points or not for purge

[obtuse pulsar]

@bleak tulip YEAH Thats what im hoping for a good blessing

[brave fiber]

could be better, but it prob will serve you well given the right blessings/perks

Generally you want burn maxed and cloud radius as high as possible

also based dd2 pfp

[frank fulcrum]

what blessings am i looking for

tyty

[brave fiber]

Flurry and nexus are great for purgatus

They’re really the only options imo

[spare sail]

terrifying barrage is fine if you cant swap off it it

[brave fiber]

(Please fatshark give me soulblaze blessing on purgatus)

[spare sail]

but what bipolar said are the 2 best

[frank fulcrum]

flurry/nexus

got it

[brave fiber]

for perks crit chance is required + flak or unarmored is nice

[glossy ember]

thoughts? can buy it with melkbux

[pine nova]

not the worst I've seen. I'd replace both perks

[glossy ember]

alright

what'd you go for, flak maniac?

damn this thing's damage is pretty good

well, rending is kinda nutty

[brave fiber]

I do think illisi is absolutely cracked this patch

They buffed it’s heavies so much

[smoky turtle]

I love deflector tbh
I know it's suboptimal and so on but it's real nice to be able to block ranged damage in a pinch

[glossy ember]

i got warp charges with shield ult so i'm usually not too fussed about ranged damage

but i did die twice to a rogue gunner when I didn't have shield

[brave fiber]

I’m running slaughterer + deflector rn, trying to fish for bloodthirsty because I’ve heard great things

[smoky turtle]

I mostly just like it for quick pinches or shifting between cover - a shield would work there as well, but also would kind of be a waste
it's really just QoL - you absolutely don't need it by any means, and I'm sure "git gud" would erase its usage entirely
but I like it and it's convenient, and as long as I'm not failing missions because I have it, why not

[brave fiber]

I don’t know what id rather have though, shred 4 or bloodthirsty, both seem great

[glossy ember]

oh definitely, i can see it being good in a pinch

and to be honest it's not wortth rerolling over my two perks I feel

[plucky flax]

I have 2 illisi I use.

[glossy ember]

thoughts about going carapace on it with uncanny strike?

[plucky flax]

Deflector for general purpose. Uncanny for more melee focused.

On my uncanny set up I use surge staff.

So if I have to deal with crusher I surge them.

[glossy ember]

i see

946 dps on crusher head at 6 warp c harges

probably not super realistic

[smoky turtle]

it's pretty easy to rack up and maintain charges, so it's hardly out of the question

[glossy ember]

that's 7 heavies

[near wyvern]

If you are missing Uncanny Strike 4 definitely pick it up. It's not the worst sword and when you get something better bank that tier 4 blessing!

[glossy ember]

i have exactly 0 blessings so

[glossy ember]

1207 dps if I start at 5 stacks of uncanny

so 4 heavies and a light

yeah it's faster for my illisi to kill crushers than my surge staff

but my surge staff kills maulers like twice as fast

[obtuse pulsar]

now to throw on crit chance after

[glossy ember]

ok tempted to try maniac carapace...

well i can switch anyway

nvm I 3shs ragers without maniac

not sure that 25% will let me 2shs

same for flak ragers

[loud ferry]

can a level 10 psyker have an effective build, if so which build?

[rigid rune]

Assail

[loud ferry]

can you help me ?

[rigid rune]

grab the toughness regen on peril quelled and then grab the right side of the talent tree for assail

[loud ferry]

like this ?

@rigid rune

[loud ferry]

THANKS BOSS

[rigid rune]

np

[lyric burrow]

Horde clear isnt amazing although if you take scriers it can be good

[loud ferry]

which weapons ??

[lyric burrow]

Scriers + shred or rampage

[rigid rune]

Dueling swords have good movesets with their heavies for killing elites/specials

[lyric burrow]

If you have purg then yeah i wouldn't worry about it too much

[rigid rune]

easy to hit heads with them

[lyric burrow]

Yeah with uncanny strike they destroy crushers

Like a 2 shot

[rigid rune]

lv 10 doesn't really have any of the good psyker weapons yet iirc just grab a staff and you'll be fine enough

[lyric burrow]

Probs 3 if you are unlucky with crits

Yeah definitely run uncanny

Uncanny with +carapace damage

Other blessing can be shred/rampage/riposte/precog

And other perk can be unyielding/maniac/crit chance

Mk4 is the one id recommend

Np

[serene mirage]

So, the only way to get the penances for the psyker cosmetic is to play with mind burst and very specific builds, right?

[rigid rune]

the redacted ones?

[serene mirage]

New ones as well.

[rigid rune]

yeah it's bb venting shriek and warp charges that build got me everything but cliffhanger and malleus monstronum so far

[serene mirage]

Shit... My current build couldn't be further from this. Assail and medium branch for damage buffs.

[rigid rune]

for everything but cliffhanger and malleus monstronum you can just play on heresy with the extra elites modifier and get most of them done with persistence

[glossy ember]

time to play and test out this sword

[keen slate]

I am complete now

[rare storm]

For the drip?

[keen slate]

No

[rare storm]

oo wait what how'd you get that staff head

[cedar saffron]

379 total but modifiers are all even?

[sharp fractal]

is the deflector blessing worth using

[willow hazel]

It's usable, but generally considered worse than offensive blessing

[brave fiber]

wtf shovel staff

i need that

[keen slate]

Join mod discord

[sonic coral]

there are decimal points after every number rating you see, the rounded total will be different

I've seen weapons rated over 380 base before they updated the way rounding works

[plucky flax]

2 achlys axes veterans what the

[keen slate]

They're good, no?

[plucky flax]

Idk I prefer antax.

Rashad is okay but bad push attack.

Achlys horde clear heavy 1 cancel is too weird.

[lyric burrow]

Achlys is pretty mid last i knew although they buffed it

I never see it or hear about it

But it might be good now with the buffs

[keen slate]

I also have a dueling shovel

[sharp fractal]

what are the best blessings for blaze sword

[strong gulch]

Blazing spirit and shred

[sharp fractal]

isn't uncanny good?

[loud ferry]

which presence shall I go for boss

[rigid rune]

?

[strong gulch]

For fire sword specifically it's blazing spirit + shred.

You need the crit chance to proc soulblaze.

[rigid rune]

oh yeah go for either left or middle

[spare light]

I think I wont do auric maelstrom for a while

[keen pawn]

I just had the most ridiculous damnation game where the entire team left me for dead multiple times and an entire horde plus tons of specials just went after me. Team was like 500m+ away and I had to handle it all by myself. I still don't know how I managed to survive. I'm gonna start recording whole matches now because I don't ever want to miss moments like that again.

[strong gulch]

Ok I see what happen. It was a colloquial term use issue.

There are 3 force swords which here are referred to as Illisi, Deimos, Obscurus, and force swords as a whole.

Fire sword is referring to blazing spirit + shred (and sometimes bloodthristy). I misinterpreted blaze sword to mean fire sword.

[strong gulch]

For damage on force swords, uncanny strike + slaughter / unstable power.

For more defense, deflector + slaughter / uncanny / unstable.

[sharp fractal]

thanks

[tame venture]

So are axes good or not? I often hear and experience that they're bad, but I still see people use them

Ive tried using them but was very unimpressed

Is it just that there's stand out blessings that make them shine?

[queen fog]

Headtaker makes a lot of things shine so I’d recommend that

[glossy ember]

holy shit

this is beautiful

FELLAS

SHE DIDNT BRICK IT

THANK YOU HADRON

[near wyvern]

PSYKER ATHENEUM UP TO DATE WITH PATCH #14

In case anyone cares.

[glossy ember]

i do

lemme see surge

[loud ferry]

whats that

[near wyvern]

Check pinned messages second link but prepare your mind as there is a lot of information

[upbeat parcel]

what blessings should I take on a IV dueling sword

[near wyvern]

Check atheneum

[upbeat parcel]

oh fuck it got updated I just read ur message

[plucky flax]

Axes are really good. But I don't think achlys in particular is as good as antax or rashad.

I would use axe on vet or zealot though with increased attack speed.

On psyker it feels a bit slow.

[tame venture]

I'm honestly just so confused because I keep getting pulled back and forth between the extremes

[orchid shadow]

Holy, that's a lot of text

[tame venture]

Oh if they just struggle on psyker it explains things a bit

[plucky flax]

On zealot in particular it's top tier.

Because zealot melee hits like a truck and they attack so fast too.

[tame venture]

So is it just that the blessings are notable, or are there other major factors

[plucky flax]

You always want to run brutal momentum to increase cleave.

[olive ember]

👍

[plucky flax]

But it's because zealot's tree gears toward a lot of melee enhancement.

Where psyker is more about buffing up our warp damage. Axe is not a warp weapon.

And we don't have any attack speed increase talent.

[olive ember]

Why there no melee psyker tree smh

[rigid rune]

buff scryers gaze for melee?

[plucky flax]

Could do yeah. They can add melee attack speed on top of it.

[brazen warren]

warp siphon scriers gaze does hit melee breakpoints for horde clear, but on combat axes and tactical axes it is not as good becuase your attacks only hit 1-3 targets

illisi/devilclaw get more benefit from WS SG damage stacking because of cleave focus

[loud ferry]

what is the best use of psyker guys in your own experience ?

[olive ember]

You kill stuff

[plucky flax]

Make true aim works with melee weapon would be a very nice additional change to buff our melee.

[olive ember]

Life’s good

[heady garnet]

Is assail always weakspot hits?

[rare storm]

Life is good indeed

Fina-fucking-ly

[rare storm]

Er seems like it but not always

[heady garnet]

gratz!

[rare storm]

Gona wear this leggings like a trophy, did it with randoms too lmao

[brazen warren]

assail prioritizes weakspot hits with its tracking, but it is not 100%

[heady garnet]

That's good to know 🙂

[brazen warren]

if you aim low or high it can hit the body, same with assail crystals that redirect midair to another target

[steel flame]

If if it worked with melee fire illi would be eating good

[runic hornet]

average martyrdom zealot player takes

(i was also our team's only defense against snipers)

[steel flame]

And chain swords would be disgusting since each tic counts as a headshot with the special

[runic hornet]

the final team was like flamer zealot, brauto vet, and stubber ogyrn

[glossy ember]

trying to integrate nade cancelling surge into my gameplay

it's fun as hell

[plucky flax]

That's the same with uncanny anyway so.

[olive ember]

Congrats

[rare storm]

Thank you kind sir

[steel flame]

We could do an uncanny fire sword

Speaking of which, Still need to roll a new trauma to test if a rending blaze trauma would be any good

[rare storm]

It's alright, fun to be a semi hoarding support

[rare storm]

Do blazing uncanny force swords work?

Feels like they'd kill too fast for the soulblaze to even spread

[inland sand]

I got bored of staves, mainly playing agri I, dueling sword and assail. Seems good

[ebon jolt]

You gotta try the Columbus IAG. It’s so good now.

[inland sand]

I play it a lot on my Vet

[steel flame]

I bounce back and forth between hyper aggro laspistol and my different stave builds depending on how ADHD I feel

[inland sand]

I really like all the IAGs

Super good now

[steel flame]

I have a tendency to get bored with stuff like current void and purgatus cause there just isn't enough things to micro manage

So I usually go for weird shit

Barely play like a psyker at all when I do laspistol, more like a crazed zealot made of paper and luck

All hail crits

[wide galleon]

just had a dude with assail and purg on in one

[near wyvern]

@steel flame try my Psylot build

It goes faaaaast

[steel flame]

I'm still Rollin for it

[near wyvern]

Why does crafting have to ruin all the fun in this game

Or the lack of it to be honest

[steel flame]

Ikr

[stiff reef]

whats a psylot

[rare storm]

Can vouch, goes zoom zoom

[near wyvern]

It's a Psyker build that plays more like a zealot

[stiff reef]

Is it on your steam guide?

[near wyvern]

Yes, the very last thing in the guide. All the way to the depths thou shall go!

[stiff reef]

Combat Blade

Thats not a Deimos

[olive ember]

Do keep in mind it is just a guide so you can swap some things around

[near wyvern]

Don't let the tooth pick fool ya, it still two shots mutants

Or one shots if you are on a DD streak

[olive ember]

But why knife when duelling sword kekw

[near wyvern]

And get a crit

Cause speed

That knife heavy gets you full perfect timing when zooming around so assail goes bang

You could technically do it with DS4 as well

[steel flame]

I would use knife on my laspistol build but I've got a lot of speed already and the extra reach is a bit more useful

[strong gulch]

Apparently you can't walk through this spot on Vigil Station Oblivium.

[steel flame]

That has killed me before

[strong gulch]

That's why I have purple. I got smashed. 🥲

[rare storm]

rip

[brazen warren]

have yet to use combat knife psyker, but it could be good for applying bleed stacks and mobility

[strong gulch]

Mashed potatoes

[brazen warren]

high crit chance and all

[strong gulch]

I really like knife. Hurts the heck out of my hands tho

[steel flame]

I've used it for ages with my fire trauma build

[peak scroll]

same. it's too much left clicking for me

[magic vessel]

should I buy this for the blessing?

bad roll

[magic vessel]

I'm huge on knife stonks if you're playing gaze

[brazen warren]

what blessings do you use on your knife?

[strong gulch]

yes

[magic vessel]

Flesh Tearer and Mercy Killer

Bleeds on Crit and +Weakspot damage vs bleeding enemies

[magic vessel]

Anyone running revolver psyker rn? i've been playing gunker a ton with a sick recon i have

[strong gulch]

Rending got a buff so uncanny is better than mercy killer now

[strong gulch]

Yup. I do when I want to gun and I think @plucky flax does too. I can't remember tho.

[magic vessel]

Well if our crafting system didn't suck so much absolute ass I'd reroll it

but I put Flesh IV and crit on it, but maybe if i get a future one

[magic vessel]

sweet, i really like hte revolver, share build/tree? also whats the good roll for the revolver since that I'm imagining is not it with high mob and low crit

running the gaze+assail gunker setup currently

[strong gulch]

Idk about a good build, but this is mine right now.

[west stream]

huh, shield gun psyker?

[strong gulch]

WS is too expensive to build into and because of how slow revolver is to reload plus how few rounds it has make little time for revolver to take advantage of gaze. Plus with surgical, I almost always crit.

[brazen warren]

revolver already hits breakpoints without crit on maulers/crushers

with crit crusher goes from 3 to 2 head shots

[hazy cedar]

I run a similar build, tho with brain burst + empowered psionics. Same dueling sword, but I use columnus infantry auto. It's real fun

[brazen warren]

everything else is pretty much a single shot

[strong gulch]

Dueling sword could benefit from gaze tho.

[west stream]

still trying to get my laspistol to work in a build

currently couple builds with gaze and dueling + revolver or pistol

[brazen warren]

I run surgical with high mobility on my revolver and it works quite well

[strong gulch]

Few of my builds use shield and I'd have to go through mind in motion to get to creeping flames. So I just went shield.

The +5% ranged damage gets me to some break points too.

[strong gulch]

Yeah I have a laspistol build with infernus on it. Talents I have assail, gaze, and DD.

[night swift]

Omg my brain became goo just like pasychers brains in the lore

I can finally play lore accurate psycher

[strong gulch]

Me everyday.

[west stream]

how do you choose between assail and pistol for that build?

feels like the engagement distances are about same

[night swift]

(Will unironically lvl my paycher to 30 now)

[night swift]

o7

[rare storm]

Wave clear with assail

[stiff reef]

i use assail on gunker to clear

[rare storm]

Priority targets with pistol

[night swift]

Bro I had big test today so I’m the past 48 hours I haven’t slept and was listening to the classes on 2,5 speed

[west stream]

so guess it's same cocnept as a revolver build ultimately, save gun for priority or things assail wont down, deal with chaff with assail

[night swift]

There is nothing left

[west stream]

I see

[strong gulch]

For laspistol i dump my ammo into monsters mostly. I have assail to help with ammo economy and quick swap with dueling sword.

[night swift]

I will unironically die

Just like big E, am fulfilled

[strong gulch]

Oh them brain are hecking mush then

[night swift]

Ye

I want to sleep but I have valuation class now

[wide galleon]

how does this perform without rampage and hand cannon being broken rn?

[night swift]

Anyways

What’s the best stuff for paycher?

[wooden flare]

Does empowering a force sword with the special action make it do warp damage?

[spare sail]

pretty sure

[night swift]

I think so

At least it should

[rare storm]

Yes

[plush basalt]

is surge bug fixed yet?

[night swift]

Is there any penance mission bug rn for magician man?

Like there is for oggy

[west stream]

need more damn plasteel so I can have nice blessings

I keep rolling same one on pistols lol

[night swift]

Another soul lost to plasteel crack

Now imagine doing that for 3 characters

And u have imesurable pain

[plucky flax]

These guys really just left the specials to me to deal with alone this round.

[night swift]

Nice

[sharp pebble]

does any smarty pants can tell me if its worth getting uncanny strike 4 for duelling sword? is there a breakpoint locked behind it? (I have uncanny 3 at the moment)

[strong gulch]

Handcannon makes a huge difference. Instead of 3 or 4 shots with revolver, I can take out a crusher with 2 crit head shots.

Rampage or shred are both good pairings with uncanny. Shred is more general imo.

[trail mulch]

can anyone post a screenshot of all T4 blessings for the purgatus staff?

[plucky flax]

Yes it's terrifying barrage, warp nexus, warp flurry.

[trail mulch]

I'm missing one and I don't know which one ...

[hollow shale]

Anyone else finding playing with a assail psyker on your team is oppressive? Just making the frontlines job harder by stealing all the kills from under you so you struggle maintaining your toughness?

[worthy scaffold]

should or nah, first time see a 3 stamina

[idle aurora]

Always take 21 hp/17 toughness/3 stamina

[worthy scaffold]

the perk nothing good tho

[soft notch]

revive speed can be useful

[idle aurora]

Ye, 1 perk will be meh after rerolls, but still, 3 stam alone is very valuable

[worthy scaffold]

yeah cant have everything

what should i reroll, max hp + toughness regen?

[idle aurora]

Ye, +5% hp/toughness and 30% toughness regen. And leave revive speed, out of 3 current ones it has most potential value

[crisp yacht]

just wanted to show off my new fave psyker weapon 🙂

[stable silo]

ncie

[clear heath]

do you get all 5 dodges on that or is it down to 4?

sub 50 mobility usually loses a dodge on most weps

[crisp yacht]

still 5

[robust sierra]

What is best to put on both power swords for perks and blessings?

and also what about the dueling sword?

[crisp yacht]

look at my force sword above

could also run uncanny and deflector

[robust sierra]

cheers

this works for illisi too right?

[stone shard]

Is blazing spirit rank 3 only on staves? The site doesnt have a range on it and has one for everything else

[acoustic spade]

Is Hardon just taking a piss on me now

[near wyvern]

Generally speaking Uncanny Strike + Slaughterer, but in case you do stuff like Smite spam on horde then you can run Unstable Power instead of Slaughterer on Deimos

[acoustic spade]

wtf are those perks

[frank moat]

Rank 3 only

[near wyvern]

Will make a decent fire trauma

[strong gulch]

No T4 blazing spirit on staves. 🥲

[acoustic spade]

does the Ranged Crit Chance work on right click?

[frank moat]

And isn’t on Surge or Purgatus in case you’re rolling for those

[near wyvern]

Yes. Just change flurry into nexus and it's ready to go

[stone shard]

Honestly good, that's so much easier to find then lol

[robust sierra]

ok, thanks

[acoustic spade]

huh, I thought it was gonna just be "works only on left click smalbal

[near wyvern]

Nah that's only for transfer peril and surge blessings

[acoustic spade]

Transfer Peril does work on Voidstrike Right-click

[near wyvern]

For void those two work on RMB but not trauma

[strong gulch]

Swap elites to flak and flurry to nexus. Then you'd have the perfect perks and blessings for blaze trauma.

[plucky flax]

This psyker was xbox player. Based xbox assail gamer.

[frank moat]

Trauma can get Surge?

[plucky flax]

Assail + surge staff. Made for controller.

[near wyvern]

Yes, but doesn't work on RMB for it

[near wyvern]

Another one is smite spam

[frank moat]

Then the heck can’t Surge staff get it

[plucky flax]

Tru but assail get you more damage. So controller players prefer that.

[frank moat]

No fun

[near wyvern]

Cause Fatshark said it would make sense for the staff with the best LMB to lack all the blessings that could boost it

[acoustic spade]

If only my only IV Nexus wasnt on my Prugatus staff I got as an Emperor's Gift

[strong gulch]

You'll get another one day. 🙏

[dapper folio]

can't decide if the splitting headache I have right now is closer to feeling like 100% peril or being a bb target

[frank moat]

Control your mind, sibling

[acoustic spade]

what about getting smited

[strong gulch]

Fatshark doesn't want us to constantly say surge surge.

[worthy scaffold]

my psyker can hear boss music lol

[limpid cypress]

That’s why they peril

[near wyvern]

Try to put your fingers in two different household wires and let us now how it felt

[dapper folio]

I'd say getting tazed x100 is closer to that

[strong gulch]

That's called anxiety.

[worthy scaffold]

theres no therapist in 40k

[acoustic spade]

I've been zapped by 240 volt circuits, tyvm

[strong gulch]

They'd just gaslight anyways.

[acoustic spade]

and once by a 400V capacitor

that one caused a funny feeling for a long time in my hand

[dapper folio]

god I don't trust capacitors

[near wyvern]

I would say that's rather unwise, sibling

[uneven bobcat]

dunno why, but when I set a forcefield ... most people walk through and then shoot instead of shooting behind that damn forcefield

[strong gulch]

That

[limpid cypress]

“So, what’s been troubling you, guardsman?”
“I watched my best friend die in front of me-”
“Eh, don’t worry about it. Next!”

[acoustic spade]

yeah I thought I had let out the charge out of all the capacitors of that one display

[dapper folio]

"yeah it's totally safe" (is about to be shocked)

[acoustic spade]

but there were more than two

[near wyvern]

Similarly to how firearms are always assumed to be loaded, always assume capacitors to be loaded as well.

Stay safe kids.

[acoustic spade]

and I picked it up and it discharged on my palm

[acoustic spade]

Firearms dont usually have secret extra barrels that can go off after you've made sure the breech is empty

[dapper folio]

uhh maybe squibs?

I feel like that's a pretty big surprise if you've never had one or don't know what to do

[near wyvern]

It's empty once you see it's actually empty. In terms of capacitors you can't see unless you measure!

[acoustic spade]

Yeah, the problem with that one 400V capacitor was I had discharged 2 of them on that circuit board already

but it had an extra sneaky 400V capacitor over the rectifier

[dapper folio]

this makes me wonder how many people get zapped taking apart old tvs

[acoustic spade]

well, you usually dont hear about them complaining about it

[north cradle]

Check out my new Voidstrike

[near wyvern]

I have seen better, I have seen worse. Definitely usable.

[acoustic spade]

Wait, Trauma Staff cant even use a nexus from a Purgatus staff

what

[north cradle]

I've never seen Surge on any staff but ya know

[strong gulch]

Felt.

Was working on a high voltage cabinet years ago. I discharged the huge capacitors. After the work was done and we were going to put them back, I got the hair raised on the back of my neck I'm in danger feeling. Discharged them again and I was right to.

[sick veldt]

yep! thanks fatshark!

[north cradle]

This is the one I was using beforehand :v

[acoustic spade]

yeah the good thing about that 400V one was that it was just a small one that was part of the rectifier circuit, so it didnt have THAT much oomph in it

and it probably discharged through some resistive components as well

[strong gulch]

Makes sense to me but I tossed my electrical knowledge in the trashcan since I no longer do that kind of work.

I wish the poxwalkers was crit chance, and the quell speed is sus.

[brave fiber]

damn surge smite is so ungodly broken right now

even worse than prenerf assail

or voidstrike imo

[silk hawk]

My average PUB Lobby

[harsh urchin]

quell is giga dumpstat on fire trauma I thought

since proper playstyle is to stay high peril and quell between each cast?

[winter siren]

depends on your build

[harsh urchin]

unlike regular trauma where you want to quell down to low

iirc regular trauma is brittle + flurry

and fire trauma is nexus blaze

[hoary charm]

Worth it bros?

[winter siren]

its a bit meh

unarmored and run n gun are not good. really you want surge and the peril transfer blessing i think

this is my current fave. 2 shots crushers. one shots pretty much everything else

[spare light]

on what level?

[winter siren]

damnation

[spare light]

with EP?

[winter siren]

nope, that is fresh unstacked in psyk on damnation

[honest tiger]

Any good builds vs monstrosities? Can CC and clean up elites no problem, but my team always takes so long to clear monsters and i’m sick of it lol

[spare light]

huh, mine ain't doing that damage

[clear heath]

i'm gonna need to see the crusher 2 shot to believe it

[winter siren]

sorry that if it crits

[clear heath]

no way you're doing 1800 damage without ep

[lyric burrow]

what blessings are people running on laspistol

[solar sand]

best flame thrower blessings?

[spare light]

nexus/flurry

[solar sand]

oh

of course

thanks lol

[strong gulch]

It's dump stat but but this low.

[winter siren]

hmmmmm

[solar sand]

quell speed from 60 to 80 is like 30% which you for sure feel

[strong gulch]

That's some meatgrinder nonsense.

[winter siren]

lol mb, if you switch build it doesnt drop stacks so i was still firing EP

[clear heath]

ok that makes more sense

my surge staff actually has cara damage and isn't 2 shotting them unbuffed so it sounded crazy to me

[winter siren]

its still pretty good without EP for its rapid fire CC. im currently running assail for horde, surge for threats, venting, and a mk4 dueling sword. puts out some nice damage

its weird how they fix one bug and create another bug

[solar sand]

no cara so add 25% or so

[harsh urchin]

should just go all in

on the surge bug abuse

[solar sand]

oh i do

its so much fun

old smite bug was op but boring

new smite but is less op but fun

[clear heath]

i run surge without ep and it's still pretty good

[winter siren]

the disco dome of doom was pretty hilarious

new smite is fine

[solar sand]

feels capable but not amazing to me on damnation/auric, falls a little short unless im doing it wrong

but it feels great to use

not knocking it at all

[supple ember]

Ello there
I have a question
What colours represent scholastica psykana and psykers in general? I see that most of psykers-primaris are painted beige and green, but cant find any lore behind it

[clear heath]

been using surge in auric and i like it for killing specials and ranged enemies fast.
Relying on creeping flames spam for hordes

[winter siren]

yeah i run TB on mine for that extra CC

well on one of them

pop that shooter and watch all his mates cower awaiting their turn on the chopping block

[clear heath]

I'm running warp charges and psykinetics aura so i rely a lot on killing elites/specials for cooldown reduction and just spamming fire everywhere

[winter siren]

or electric chair as it may be

[clear heath]

i like shrieking through walls the next room over and burning a horde to death before they even reach the team

[solar sand]

psykers have a base 5% crit chance right? so with the 5 from the tree, and 5 on a weapon, we have 15?

[clear heath]

I don't bother with terrifying barrage. I just kill 1 and scream.
Vid is from back before perilous combustion nerf but this still kills
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1163981232414134272/soulblaze_gunner.mp4?ex=65418cff&is=652f17ff&hm=c22a05200f66abb49ee24eb7e33ad58ede3da5c362eed3117f747132754762ab&

[clear heath]

my psyker usually screams every 15 seconds or so, making most hordes and shooter packs a non-issue

[winter siren]

is anyone having fun with BB atm?

feels so powercrept to me atm

too slow

like i can rclick an assail and kill a sniper before a BB

[spare light]

I do, but it's very situational

[clear heath]

it feels like it just exists as a band-aid for builds that struggle against armor and long range

[bright mica]

Best Surge Staff blessings?

[clear heath]

so basically just purg

[winter siren]

and smite as a aoe cc for res and holding chokes is so strong as it goes through walls

[clear heath]

warp nexus and warp flurry

[winter siren]

warp flurry and TB is pretty good too imo

a lot of people under estimate the impact of suppression i think

[clear heath]

i don't think it's worth it. surge staff is just gonna chain to the thing you wanna suppress anyways

[winter siren]

staff doesnt chain much anymore

[bright mica]

well fuck me gently with a chainsaw

[winter siren]

TB replaces the old aoe cc imo

[bright mica]

what perks then

[winter siren]

cara maniac unyeilding flak. your choice of pick n mix what you want to kill fastest. though you should pop most flak anyway

[clear heath]

how close does something have to be to be considered a close range kill again?

i remember hearing 8m

[winter siren]

12.5m isnt it?

not sure but i think i read that somewhere

[winter siren]

once you get the timing down to repeat full charge attacks this thing will rapid fire explode almost any single target with decent damage to a 2nd

[bright mica]

Hm

Maniac for sure but you think Cara is worth it?

I mostly play Maelstrum

[clear heath]

I do flak cara

[winter siren]

remember it targets what you aim at, and not all enemies can be suppressed. so focus maniacs first

[clear heath]

crushers are cringe as hell to kill with surge without cara, taking the perk makes it bearable.
Up to you though

[bright mica]

Hmm, I'll go Maniac Cara then

or even Elite Cara

[spare light]

I love trauma in auric maelstrom

[solar sand]

i had the rest done around 50, these 50 feeling like forever

i want the hat

[winter siren]

wait until you get to this one lol

[clear heath]

I still haven't bothered to get that penance

[winter siren]

whoever thought up this penance should be visited by a commissar

[solar sand]

that one seems easy i just dont have friends

[clear heath]

the game launched with the most deranged penances known to man

malleus used to require 100% damage

actual insanity

[winter siren]

who the hell is making these decisions?

like there are good hard tests like taking no melee damage, that will improve most players skills as they complete it. then there are just WTF penances that are like some drunk 15 year old creating his new SM chapter with custom rules

[sonic whale]

Changing around some skill points, whats more worth while:
+5% Critical Hit Chance.
or
+5% Toughness Damage Reduction.

[winter siren]

do you get hit much?

[sonic whale]

I want it without the lower face mask

[winter siren]

if your dodge game is good CR is much better

[sonic whale]

Yeah recently I've been going down quite a bit in melee. I also think it's my Blaze mk2 sword as it isn't working like how it was pre-patch 14

[clear heath]

i think it depends on weapon.
some weapons crit better than others

[sonic whale]

Also for me dodge's have been unreliable recently, I think it's more my own timing but I always dodge and still get hit

[orchid nest]

I'm going to go with the crit chance because I can't go without kinetic deflection. I would take that point to get to deflection even if it was a filler node that gave absolutely nothing

[clear heath]

also would go crit if you have other talents that trigger on-crit

[spice veldt]

enemies typically have running attacks that have a long dodge catch

[winter siren]

try a mk4 duelling sword. actually amazing. or the dclaw mk4 is really good too

[spice veldt]

if you're dodging backwards and putting distance, that can proc a running attack from enemies

[sonic whale]

Well currently due to my sword I've been getting cornered, I swear they've also decreased or I have only just noticed how bad the mk2's push is

[winter siren]

also try the illisi maybe. imo its much better than the obs

[spice veldt]

the push of the force swords are actually quite good

they have a slightly longer range than most pushes, and they have a good angle for their 1 bar cost

[clear heath]

it feels more than slightly

[spice veldt]

if you compare them to the other 1 bar cost pushes (taxes, knives, etc.), you'll find that the force sword pushes are notably better

and are comparable to the 2 bar cost pushes

[clear heath]

can very reliably push stuff behind you

[sonic whale]

I've been having it where it pushes three people, one of them instantly de-staggers and does that really annoying charge hit

[spice veldt]

pushing with at least 1 bar of stamina?

[sonic whale]

Yeah

I think it's the mk2, it feels off with the push for me or hasn't got as wide of a push as I remember

[clear heath]

idk i find force sword pushes to be super reliable unless it's a rager or something

[sonic whale]

This is the sword currently

[clear heath]

old clip, but i don't think the push has been changed since then.
The push is so good i can literally walk through hordes backwards
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1059866245702373497/backwards_block_and_push.mp4?ex=65539bdc&is=654126dc&hm=085c8b7bd41414d99f0a26dc218b7632d163d935c0488612a49e1db042c2dc41&

[sonic whale]

Yeah I remember it being this good

But for me it pushed them barely more then half a meter, and this is the normal poxwalker

[clear heath]

well, if you want your pushes be stronger, i think the push scales with power blessings so that could be an option

i remember pre-nerf slaughterer with force sword just knocked enemies on their asses when pushing

[sonic whale]

I really like the deflector and Blazing Spirit, as with BS I have the Soulblaze perks so I can cause a chain reaction

[bleak tulip]

idk I just tested pushes and it doesnt throw em back so far that you can backwalk through a horde but you still can just stand in them forever

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stone shard]

Are blessings not shared between any staves? They need to be harvested from each type individually?

[bleak tulip]

no

no share

big sad

[stone shard]

that's absurd

[clear heath]

maybe they secretly nerfed the pushes then

[winter siren]

this goes alright. one day ill get a better one but it does pretty good

riposte is pretty good too

[visual prism]

can i dmg myself in the psykhanium?

[bleak tulip]

https://streamable.com/w2yngn

still good

[light belfry]

is executor worth shilling out for

executor 4

the force sword blessing

[sonic whale]

This is how it's been

[clear heath]

Does hitmass effect how much things get pushed?

do you think them increasing the hitmass of everything maybe indirectly nerfed pushes?

I'm testing right now and yeah it definitely feels a bit worse

although i regularly run unstable power now so it kinda balances it out sorta

[sonic whale]

I'm not knowledgeable in that but you can see I can barely push them (in my opinion) so you can understand how when there's a horde I'm getting overwhelmed when isolated at a bad time

[bleak tulip]

idk just dodge

other weapons dont have this OP push at all and people dont die randomly to hordes

[clear heath]

just kill the horde

[feral verge]

terrible barrage

is useless

on all weaponjs

especially surge staff

all staves and guns already supress

[lunar hollow]

take your meds

[feral verge]

terrifying barrage is like having no blessing at all

never, ever terrifying barrage

yw

[cloud heron]

What should I do with this sword?

[sonic whale]

White is me, blue is the wall, you can figure out the red. Can't dodge in that situation

Also dodges are limited now

[clear heath]

manker you just missed a guy talking about terrifying barrage like 20 minutes ago

go argue with him

🍿

[clear heath]

simply kill the red

[feral verge]

that's why i psoted in here

josho told me

[sonic whale]

Oh I never thought that

[brazen warren]

block push if its anything less than a rager, mauler, or ogryn

side dodge

the block push stagger forces them to be slightly phased so you can dodge through them

[sonic whale]

Again, as stated before

Like getting corned on damnation screws me over when dodging

[clear heath]

I'm not doubting that it's worse. I feel it too.
But like, you can live with it

[bleak tulip]

push attack with any other weapon usually solves this (I dont actually do this in game but its pretty trivial even with limited space) Ideally you dont get yourself into a corner like that at all

[clear heath]

yeah don't corner yourself so hard that you'll just be left completely unable to move against a trapper/mutant if one shows up

[bleak tulip]

im uploading me just holding off like 20 hordies in a corner gimme one

[sonic whale]

Yeah it's not like I'm getting into that corner on purpose, like I'm literally saying it's my problem right now and the key problem I am having is my weapon not myself

The 'advice' of "Just dodge." is about as helpful as saying it in Dark Souls when it was a common gate-keep joke

[bleak tulip]

streamable size limit 😔

[spice veldt]

it is pretty legitimate advice because you basically get i-frames and you can get away with not having to play based on reactions in this game relaly

[bleak tulip]

youtube it is

[spice veldt]

you can just fall into a muscle memory rotation and be fine

[bleak tulip]

listen for the sound thing and press the button

[spice veldt]

and just to be 100% sure, you're talking about the push and not including the push-attack right?

[bleak tulip]

dont dodge backwards

done

[strong gulch]

The only time I have seen terrifying barrage noticeably do anything is on voidstrike when a horde is running at you and it gets close. Instead of switching to melee, you could just keep artillery shelling. This was pre-patch 13.

But giving up any other option is for that is silly.

[wanton sandal]

important thing i dont see people tell others is that dodge only stops lock-on

you can still get hit while dodging

[feral verge]

just dodge is legitimate advice

[sonic whale]

I knew that already

[smoky turtle]

can't you only get hit while dodging if you chain too many in a row?

[feral verge]

i started doing that ages ago and started taking way less damage

i dodge 24/7

[sonic whale]

Not to players who are already at level 30 and playing heresy/damnation Auric on the regular

It's just insulting

[feral verge]

i am one of those players

[spice veldt]

there are i-frames

[lunar hollow]

well the other piece of advice is "position better"

[spice veldt]

it is legitimately not insulting, because it's just a matter of getting used to tapping dodge while you're doing other stuff

it is straight up just muscle memory

[wanton sandal]

true

[lunar hollow]

because if u end up in a corner you A) had an ai director that decided you were going to die and could do nothing about it or B) made a positioning error

[sonic whale]

Like to a newbie sure, it's good advice as they're new, but to players who already know it's ignoring any possibility of actual advice and just plasters them down to "Oh you simply didn't think to dodge."

[spice veldt]

I'm not telling you to have insane reaction times or the experience to know what dodges are

but you can literally just spam dodges

and be fine and just push horde enemies whilst your dodges recover

it is straight up just muscle memory and knowing what rotations you need to do

[clear heath]

Idk what to tell you man.
Every user of any other weapon type and class in the game has managed to deal with not having a godly push that shoves hordes from 2 meters away.
They do this by dodging and positioning

[sonic whale]

I did this pre- patch 14 but with my weakened push distance it's been incredibly hard

[bleak tulip]

https://streamable.com/aoy9co or do this brainless shit

basically dont have to move much at all

[clear heath]

or take venting shriek and just yell

[sonic whale]

I already do

[feral verge]

if it's still a problem and you cant do anything else about it

use trauma staff

jsut trauma at your feat

nothing will touch you

[sonic coral]

what to do with this

[bleak tulip]

idk use it

[sonic coral]

normally I hate voidstrike but upgraded it from the shop and it's not too bad

[bleak tulip]

you made the thing

grats

[sonic coral]

unarmored to maniac or something maybe?

[bleak tulip]

flak

crit

[sonic whale]

I'm using Voidstrike currently but idk if they buffed Trauma staff, my problem was that everyone inside the highlighted zone wouldn't get killed or staggered with high radius

[sonic coral]

crit's a solid idea

[fresh reef]

guh

[feral verge]

what

trauma staggers literally everything

except mutie

[bleak tulip]

its been the same forever

you can jsut stand still

and nothing touches you

[wanton sandal]

all trash gets one shot by a fully charged staff

[feral verge]

voidstrike can also be shot pointblank or at your feat to keep enemies at bay

[wanton sandal]

gunners and shit are like 2 hit

[sonic whale]

Keep in mind this is from pre-patch my xp

[bleak tulip]

it was this way before as well

[feral verge]

even pre patch it staggered everything well

[bleak tulip]

trauma has been good for like 6 months?

[spice veldt]

against poxwalkers, you can be inside a horde and fine as long as you have a little bit of space for a dodge https://streamable.com/37xstq

[sonic whale]

Maybe I need to take a look at it again

[spice veldt]

this is a quickie but I do think that spamming dodges is really the solution

[wanton sandal]

trauma has always been slept on

[sonic whale]

I do wish the highlight was taller so I could see in a horde where it's going

[bleak tulip]

yeah it was just so fuckin expensive to use before

[wanton sandal]

i love running trauma now that i am enlightened (by my beloved)

[bleak tulip]

and then they fixed that

[sonic whale]

Also keep in mind I started playing the game on the 14th of October and only just got my 4th class to 30

[wanton sandal]

true, and still pretty costly now if you dont take a decent warp res

although with the warp flurry changes its now possible to just quell and keep your insta-charge stacks

[bleak tulip]

the dream lives on

but yeah "just dodge" isnt a snide remark, its the actual "secret"

[wanton sandal]

also, like someone said earlier, depending on your staff you can just spam it at your feet

[sonic whale]

Well keep in mind that the simple, short nature of it doesn't explain much to literally anyone outside the-know so it will always come off as a snide remark.
Like as I gave for example earlier, look at Dark Souls and how helpful that was to new players

[wanton sandal]

or just push and block thru to get to your team

[spice veldt]

it's not like we have much information to go on either

[sonic whale]

I'm normally venting if cornered then try to crawl run-slash my way to the team

[grand raven]

pretty sure you're the only one taking as a "snide remark"

[spice veldt]

and what you're saying goes against my experiences very heavily, so I have no idea what specific piece of advice to give

[restive slate]

I'm so suprised that held staff special can knock down ragers

[spice veldt]

i legitimately do not mean "just dodge" in an insulting way

[sonic whale]

If I'm taking it as a snide remark, does that somehow invalidate my feelings at the term???

[clear heath]

This is a terrible idea but if you really wanna not move, this is also an option

A special will definitely come to grab you if you do this though

[spice veldt]

because spamming dodges gets you a long way in this game

[grand raven]

huh?

I can't control your emotions, bro

[spice veldt]

you don't have to play in a reactionary way against melee enemies at all unless it's a running attack or an attack with large negative consequences (crusher/mauler overheads)

[steel flame]

I frames go brrrrr

[sonic whale]

The way you are coming across with your comment makes it seem like you're trying to invalidate how I feel about the remark. Like what other reason is there to point out ...you're the only one taking as a "snide remark" 🤷‍♂️

[sonic whale]

This is a perfect example of what I get into but normally my stamina gets cracked

[clear heath]

I didn't actually need to lose stamina there though

I could've spammed push

[sonic whale]

I have block Efficacy on my Curio's as well as the Deflector blessing

[steel flame]

Huh?

[clear heath]

I only intentionally blocked hits to let my peril build up

because i have peril block

[sonic whale]

Huh?

[steel flame]

HUH!?!?!?!???!?!?!

[sonic whale]

HUH?!?!??!??!?

I too can go Huh

[steel flame]

!!!!!!!!

[sonic whale]

????

😆

[clear heath]

I don't have any block efficiency curios at all

[sonic whale]

My curio's are dogshit tbh imo as I'm confused what to run honestly

[bleak tulip]

stamina shouldnt be an issue

[clear heath]

I wasn't even blocking to avoid damage anyways. I only let them swing because i wanted more peril

[sonic whale]

Is this in the left or right tree?-oh wait yeah I'm not specced into that right most tree end

[bleak tulip]

if youre running void ideally you wanna get to true aim anyway so its on the way

[steel flame]

When in doubt. Toughness/health and toughness Regen perks, or whatever resistance for the enemy you hate the most

[clear heath]

gunner resist is pretty good now imo

game has too many gunners

[steel flame]

Gunner spam is real

[bleak tulip]

simply slide

[clear heath]

a surprise gunner also just kinda nukes you instantly

[sonic whale]

I did have the Wound one as another +15% Toughness but the two wounds didn't flow well as one down and then the next down is death

[clear heath]

At this point all my builds have at least 1 gunner res curio

I don't want to instantly die if one ends up behind me

[sonic whale]

Idk why the director is spawning x8 gunners and x8 Shotgunners AT THE SAME TIME sometimes

[steel flame]

It's been a long time since Ive had more than 2 wounds

[clear heath]

same

It's pretty rare for someone to actually res you twice

[steel flame]

I did used to run 1 wound and 2 17% toughness

[sonic whale]

This was the Curio that replaced the Wound one, but idk if I should run it

[clear heath]

It's not even about being too good to go down or any bs like that.
I just don't trust my teammates to revive me

[sonic whale]

I have been wondering if there exists a +2 wound curio

[steel flame]

Negative

[sonic whale]

sad

[steel flame]

1 wound, 17% toughness, 21% health

[spice veldt]

here's a video back from the days of infinite dodges, but it gets the point of i-frames across https://streamable.com/thwtqw

nowadays you'll have to throw a push in as your dodges recover and whatnot, but there is no skill requirement or anything

you just have to know what to do

[clear heath]

If you wanna practice in a safe environment, i recommend getting creature spawner mod so you can test stuff in psykanium

although keep in mind timing will be a bit off since there's no server latency in there

[sonic whale]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a7f302f-0a74-498f-b6c8-3c8b5bfec2f5/specialist-splatter
Ignore the weapons and curios' but these are the perks I've taken

[clear heath]

wow you weren't kidding whenn you said you ignored right side

[sonic whale]

Yeah

[bleak tulip]

kinetic flayer bad, boom you got the one point you need for deflect

[clear heath]

Seeing someone path right next to psykinetic aura but not taking it hurts me

[bleak tulip]

oh yeah

dont take wildfire either lol

its also big poo poo

[sonic whale]

It's actually been really good for me

Pop a specialist and it spreads, and in close combat I have this sword

[bleak tulip]

and while we're at it, I'd recommend inverting the keystone talents, in fire reborn is mathematically weaker than psychic vampire basically every time

[bleak tulip]

the problem is it only spreaks up to 4 stacks which isnt a lot

[sonic whale]

Soulblaze spreading is one of my major splats for hordes as long as I get a crit or slap a specialist

[clear heath]

It does less than most people expect at first

I do use it though

it is sometimes useful for creeping flames spam if you know to scream at stuff that wildfire spread to

[digital narwhal]

Bloodthirsty + Blazing Spirit Illisi is pretty funny

[clear heath]

a lot of the time things will have 1-2 stacks from wildfire and then you just scream to make that a 7

which isn't a huge difference but it's something

[brazen warren]

4 stacks is enough to kill infested trash and basic trash in a reasonable amount of time, 3 stacks is slow but can kill basic trash, anything less is pure garbage tier at less than 50 total damage

[bleak tulip]

idk I already dont have enough talent points

and there is a flat out better talent on that level

[brazen warren]

its exponential, so the 2 stacks with additional 5 melts hard on hordes

[clear heath]

4 stacks doesn't actually kill poxwalkers

[robust sierra]

should I pick this up from melk?

[clear heath]

actually 5 didn't even kill poxwalkers

hell, I have unstable power up

so this is a buffed 5 stacks

[hollow flame]

Mods are nice do you like riposte and the uncanny strike?

[brazen warren]

hmm

[spice veldt]

maybe with perfect timing/malefic if those buffs are up

[clear heath]

maybe

[spice veldt]

oh wait you can't get malefic if you want wildfire

[clear heath]

but this is 5 stacks

i don't think 4 would be enough even with buffs

[brazen warren]

what damage buff does your sword have?

aside from unstable

[clear heath]

It's just unstable power.
Perks are flak/maniac

Maybe it'd be closer to killing if i had 6 warp charges, and perfect timing fully stacked

but nah i doubt 4 stacks is doing it

[brazen warren]

hmm, I think that is the variable that is influencing it for me then as I have infested on my swords for horde clear

[clear heath]

maybe

[brazen warren]

that+WS would add up

[clear heath]

at 4 charges it's left at this much hp

[bright mica]

That's good to know since I wanted to run this sorta build

[clear heath]

idk if that's really enough

[bright mica]

How about Dreg hordes, is 4 stacks enough?

[clear heath]

maybe in a real situation it ends up better because wildfire might be gradually applying and refreshing duration