psyker-class

[vestal fulcrum]

Scab Maulers, both types of Ragers, Gunners and Shotgunners, all Ogryn enemies

[royal granite]

overpowering souls get you a stack of EP on elite kills so you can test with that

[pale raven]

Trying to get the keep your distance penance and I have no idea who I should avoid in melee. And it's damn hard to avoid everything in melee

[hot prairie]

just find an elevated corner and sit out the match :3

[coarse bane]

I don't think the unarmored ragers count as elites. As testing the talent, the only things that gave me EP 100% were Crushers, Bulwarks, and Reapers.

Of course the training area mobs could be bugged.

[royal granite]

at least there are no longer enmies with guns who don't count as shooters

[vestal fulcrum]

We won

[pale raven]

So pretty much run and hide behind my team when maulers or ragers show up

[vestal fulcrum]

Turns out melee enemies designed as shooters ARE predominantly shooters and should be highlighted by VF/ES

[royal granite]

that was literally the only time where i've looked at a design decision and said "that's dumb and sticking with this is dumb"

[coarse bane]

Or blow them up with lighting, which will also stun them.

[onyx sentinel]

i love how easy you can supress shooters with staff LMB now

[pale raven]

I was thinking smite would be the better build to avoid melee hits

[tranquil isle]

put +25% dmg to catapace ememies and 10% dmg to elites or +25% dmg to flak armor enemies

[glossy hazel]

Can only change one perk, put 25% flak*

[royal granite]

most of the time i don't think it's productive to call devs stupid or incompetent, there's usually stuff going on that isn't clear to players which makes decisions like that more complicated, but having an enemy with a gun who shoots you not count as a shooter is fucked

[tranquil isle]

ok do that

[coarse bane]

Or a surge staff.

[royal granite]

if the main thing they do is shoot then they aren't melee enemies with a ranged option, they are just ranged enemies who are marginally tougher in melee

[pale raven]

Or both

[wooden flare]

Huh

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-27377993

[coarse bane]

Indeed, though I don't mind the crowd clearing and snipe ability of Assail.

[royal granite]

i ate but i'm still hangry

[vestal fulcrum]

IDK how it fares in the Psykhanium, but these enemies are typically treated as elites

[royal granite]

anyway it's fixed now so

it's fine

[acoustic spade]

Damnation QP has been an awful experience today

[onyx sentinel]

what do you mean EP 100%? either they give you a stack or they don't. I'm pretty sure regular ragers are elites

[thin finch]

Gunner also count

[acoustic spade]

first Damnation QP: a lv19 guy that AFK'd in spawn until horde spawned, he died, then said in chat "please help me"

[coarse bane]

Than the Psykhanium is fucked up.

[thin finch]

EP has a percentage value to give you a stack on any kill

[glossy hazel]

Go Auric, all the consolebabies are now "confident" that they can handle damnation

But not auric yet

[onyx sentinel]

Oh that node, I mean relating to the elites or not aspect of the skill

[coarse bane]

The talent gives you 100% on elite kills.

[acoustic spade]

I just wanted to run a bit of Purgatus staff

[royal granite]

i havent played non-aurics in a while now

[wooden flare]

I would have a better time in Damnation

IF THE GAME GAVE ME DAMN WOUND CURIOS

[coarse bane]

Problem is, the training area might be bugged with what is and isn't considered elite.

[acoustic spade]

then wish I had something else when I am the last one alive after the rest of the team dies to trash mobs while I keep running around in circles tanking the plague ogryn

[thin finch]

Just parry and don't lose life
Simple as

[glossy hazel]

If you use wound curious on anything BUT martyrdom zealot please stick to heresy/malice

You are gearing for failure

[rare storm]

Elite's are whatever that can be pinged but have no sound cues, Specialists are enemies that spawn WITH sound cues ie Poxhounds, trappers, mutants

[coarse bane]

You have the same hp, just divided up more. Just dodge and take less corruption. Duh, lol

[acoustic spade]

I use 1x Wound curio in QP because people WILL ALWAYS pick up a grimoire if they see one no matter the team

[wooden flare]

Yes but I’d rather have comfort in knowing I could go down one more time before I get fucked against the wall

[glossy hazel]

A single 20% grim resist keeps you from going to insta-death

[thin finch]

I still have a +1 wound becquse

sometime game is a bitch
sometime I fuck up
I M JUST A LITTLE WEELY PSYKEER I HAVE ONE HEAALTH PLEEASE DON'T HIT ME WITH YOUR POXBUSTER STAFF IT WILL REDUCE ME TO ONE HP

[royal granite]

i have seen so many cocky people roll into auric maelstrom with 2 wounds like "yeah i can do this i'll just not get downed"

[wooden flare]

I just need one more curio cause I run melee Psyker

[royal granite]

and they get downed once and now they are a liability

[acoustic spade]

just once?

damn you've had pro players

[royal granite]

because they have half max health and the next time they go down the team will be one player short

[glossy hazel]

Couldn't be me

[royal granite]

well at first

[onyx sentinel]

ingame right now, maniacs grant a stack 10/10 times

in the psykhanium

[acoustic spade]

we had this one guy that got rescued 4 times during an Auric lvl4 mission

[royal granite]

you have to get downed once before you can get downed twice you know

anyway minimum 3 wounds in auric

[plucky flax]

That's me I'm the grim picker.

[royal granite]

i run 4 because i like having the buffer

[left basin]

i saw that

obscurus got poked a little

did it get

[wooden flare]

Oi quit picking at me

[left basin]

any better

[vagrant frigate]

wat

[acoustic spade]

I like the extra 30% toughness from my curios tyvm

[wooden flare]

You know what? Fuck it

Can’t go down if I have like 400 health on Psyker

[acoustic spade]

well, technically both of my toughness curios give me +20%

[vagrant frigate]

nah run stamina curios

+9

speedrun to end and die

[glossy hazel]

Kill +wound users. Behead +wound users. Roundhouse kick a +wound users into the concrete. Slam dunk a +wound users baby into the trashcan. Martyr filthy +wound users. Defecate in a +wound users' rations. Launch +wound users into the sun. Stir fry +wound users in a space wok. Toss +wound users into the Eye of Terror. Urinate into a +wound users' machine spirit. Judo throw +wound users into a corpse grinder. Twist +wound users heads off. Report +wound users to the Inquisition. Chainsword +wound users in half. Curb stomp whiny +wound users. Trap +wound users in nets. Crush +wound users in the trash compactor. Liquefy +wound users with a meltagun. Eat +wound users. Dissect +wound users. Exterminatus +wound users with orbital bombardment. Stomp +wound users skulls with plasteel-toed boots. Cremate +wound users with warpfire. Lobotomize +wound users. Mandatory abortions for +wound users. Grind +wound users' fetuses into corpse starch. Drown +wound users in holy water. Vaporize +wound users with a plasmagun. Kick old +wound users down the stairs. Feed +wound users to poxhounds. Slice +wound users with a cleaver.

[vagrant frigate]

lmfao

[vagrant frigate]

PREACH

[wooden flare]

Tldr; good for you sah, or sorry it happened sah

[thin finch]

For any clas I would say "2 is manageable" except psyker tbh

[vagrant frigate]

????

with kinetic deflection

[royal granite]

hard disagree

[vagrant frigate]

ur unvincible

[thin finch]

Look at your health pool

[vagrant frigate]

the way i play, i dont need it

ig

[thin finch]

One trapper into 3 poxwalker and you ded

[vagrant frigate]

fast pokey

[royal granite]

"it's fine i'll just not get downed"
gets downed
"well this is obviously not my fault"

less than 3 wounds you are a liability waiting to happen

[glossy hazel]

Nah

Git gud

One mistake is more than enough if you aren't dogshit

[onyx sentinel]

trauma is probably your best bet. If you're playing higher difficulties, elite patrols usually have more ragers than your surge staff can target

[vapid lichen]

im kinda seeing the influence of only having 2 wounds, i got to lvl 30 a few days ago and im still blowing myself up :(

[thin finch]

True but not each class has the samz chance of getting downed.
An ogyn can tank way more than any class so having wound curios actually guarantee more to not be downed than having one more chance

[royal granite]

stop dying in my auric maelstroms

[onyx sentinel]

or just kill them with voidstrike lmfao

[royal granite]

yeah but an ogryn has more base wounds in the first place

[wooden flare]

Imagine they add a modifier where all but one wound is corrupted for the entire mission

[acoustic spade]

I'm not sayin poeple that are not running +wound curios should run them
I'm saying we could use less hostility towards people who like to play around brainlet team mates who shoot at the poxburster you are about to pushblock away

[thin finch]

A +20% on an ogryn is like 40 hp ,on q psyker it's not event 20

[glossy hazel]

Old VT2 downs? I'd be down

[thin finch]

It's called a grimoire

[royal granite]

i wish grims were worth the effort

[wooden flare]

Marty Zealots would be in Nirvana

Max stacks at all times

[verbal bear]

damage was a dump stat on purg right

[plucky flax]

Aye.

[royal granite]

hey how's it going

[onyx sentinel]

while on topic of curios, feels like most of my auric run wipes are from melee elites + flamer/bombers, so are max% hp generally better than toughness?

[royal granite]

definitely

[verbal bear]

I run hp, toughness just gets deleted if you get hit anyways

[royal granite]

besides, regenerating toughness is incredibly easy on a psyker

[acoustic spade]

I usually only see my floating head

[willow hazel]

It's either 2x HP 1x Toughness or 2x Toughness 1x HP.

[onyx sentinel]

I'm running +3 stam / 2x HP

[willow hazel]

I feel like I must be missing something with the stamina curio. I am running Kinetic Deflection and my block almost never gets broken.

[onyx sentinel]

I never really feel like I run out of stam during hordes though, mostly a placebo. You really only get downed by ranged/flames

[wooden flare]

Not to mention how good Force sword pushes are

gives you so much breathing space

[onyx sentinel]

had them on since I started levelling and never really thought about it again

[wooden flare]

And can harass Maulers, Crushers and Ragers

like it’s not even funny how much I bully those guys on Psyker

[willow hazel]

Ragers can easily end runs right now, so it's even better

[wooden flare]

Gunners are just a nuisance no matter what class you run

because for some reason they thought making it to where getting shot makes you run in molasses was a great idea

[onyx sentinel]

is the hp buff they got that big? I always run trauma so they just kinda get juggled, deimos still 2 shots them

[normal matrix]

In fairness the upgraded BB can revoke their sentience privileges rather quickly

[normal matrix]

I just pop their heads and run two shields

[wooden flare]

That’s why I run it with EP

[normal matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[worn cypress]

I only finally tried EP BB last night bc assail brained people kept talking about how shit it is

shits a blast

[coarse bane]

Or where they push you into a wall.

[normal matrix]

Oh aye its super good, pair it with guaranteed charge on elite kill and you can chain quick and peril-less head pops the whole run

[worn cypress]

yeah really damn fun

[rare storm]

Meh, those are the kind of people that think there's only one way to play psyker and won't change their minds

[worn cypress]

I used to run the lv30 feat that speeds up BB charge/reduce peril anyways

[rare storm]

EP BB even before the patch wasn't horrible at all

[thin finch]

You also don't loose peril so get some peril to enjoyvthose 20% damage bonus

[worn cypress]

yeah ik

[glossy ember]

I love bb

[worn cypress]

and now I can chain that the whole map

perfection

[glossy ember]

it's so satisying popping a squad of gunners

[coarse bane]

Brain burst is a gratifying ability. Crushing their skulls just feels so good. Just wish it was faster channel.

[worn cypress]

its at the right speed with EP honestly

[normal matrix]

Aye EmpPsi gives it a quick channel

[glossy ember]

i personally use warp charges + bb and it still comes handy when i gotta take care of far targets. Sniper and gunners mainly, far ragers.

[worn cypress]

tho I think it’d feel better if the base charge rate is reduced by say, 25%

and EP charge rate is the same

[normal matrix]

I feel like giving it 100% peril reduction is a bit sleeper OP though

[coarse bane]

Nah, lower channel time to base and just boost its damage more with EP.

[worn cypress]

I think its balanced naturally by skill issue

[normal matrix]

Elaborate

[coarse bane]

It's best used as a target and duck behind cover, but does not do well with run and gun.

[glossy ember]

very handy when you need a safe kill on an important target

[worn cypress]

ehh I play it run and gun

[maiden cedar]

Honestly I only use BB for the random proc, it actually happens way more often than you'd think

[normal matrix]

I dont even RnG im just the only one usually killing specials

[maiden cedar]

EP doesn't seem as strong on BB, compared to the other two

[normal matrix]

Old Vet gave me good eyes for elites and the like

[worn cypress]

but I mean I had a whole prepatch year to figure out how to make BB work with my discount zealot playstyle

[maiden cedar]

Its just crit build innit?

[sturdy dagger]

anyone using smite psyker post patch? i just tried it once and like wow i can channel for maybe 3 seconds before maxing out

there a new build for smite or is it dead?

[worn cypress]

its still good?

[maiden cedar]

Smite with surge staff and EP is really good

[normal matrix]

I find myself just playing TeamSupp role most of the time, but i find it quite fun with tangible results

[worn cypress]

you dont wanna freeze everything constantly anyways

kill them too

[bleak tulip]

smite with surge is bugged, thats mainly why its good

[acoustic spade]

I always ran Smite psyker with Warp Charges even pre-patch so I'd say its ok

just need to learn when to channel fully and when to only channel a bit and let go to knockdown the horde

[coarse bane]

Wait it's bugged for the blessing as well?

[ebon jolt]

EP BB isn’t exactly bad but it’s the opportunity cost of not picking the other options. I think warp siphon is just better when used with EP. The only breakpoints you get with EP is two tapping crushers and one tapping dreg ragers and the extra charge speed. But you give up damage with all weapons, CDR and either peril resistance or toughness regen.

[normal matrix]

Breakpoints? Im using it for the speed and no peril

I would rather confirm the death of a gunner squad than leave it to my often ogryn-intelligence teammates

[ebon jolt]

I guess I usually use with with venting shriek and warp siphon so I already have the peril resist and the cooldown on the ability is so low that the uptime for 75% faster BBs is so high I don’t need the extra casting speed.

[bleak tulip]

BB still takes too long to kill shit with it is the problem, and the breakpoints are fucky when you cant even one shot dreg gunners unless you take literally every single possible talent that buffs it

[normal matrix]

Maybe for your aurics, i play on heresy/damn standard

[bleak tulip]

also not one shotting crushers

damnation is the same health pool

auric or not

[worn cypress]

theres less shit to kill on normal damn hence feels more impactful

[plucky flax]

Wait you don't 1 shot dreg gunner with bb?

I'm pretty sure you do.

[worn cypress]

but I’ve been running it on auric maelstrom and it feels, ok?

[bleak tulip]

the problem with BB is that it charges too slow and does too little (you need two to kill one rager) when on higher difficulties you need to deal with a lot of them

[ebon jolt]

All you need to 1 shot gunners is warp rider. Which everyone takes anyways.

[bleak tulip]

you do with warp rider, and EP

without warp rider its just barely under

[plucky flax]

Just with warp rider no?

[bleak tulip]

which is hialrious

[plucky flax]

Don't need empowered.

[worn cypress]

its def not the most optimal blitz choice but its fun

[bleak tulip]

fair enough, either way its hilarious that base BB is missing breakpoints

by like

50 health

[plucky flax]

I don't think anyone will ever not take warp rider so bb will always kill dreg gunner.

[bleak tulip]

you should obv take WR every build anyway

as it should

alternatively they change warp rider to actually be a 0-20% scale

as the tooltip says

[ebon jolt]

Boooooo. No.

[bleak tulip]

and then you hole that the peril is enough

[bleak tulip]

but yeah nothing should take three fuckin BB's when shit like void just grills them much faster

not with how slow that shit is

[normal matrix]

Once math starts being involved you guys suck the fun out of darktide

[sturdy dagger]

what bug are u talking about?

[bleak tulip]

this gets added to surge staff damage right now when you have charges

thats why you see people sometimes post 1million damage scoreboards

(that arent like 2 hour matches)

[sturdy dagger]

[bleak tulip]

go test it, and you see how noticable it is in psyk

its pretty comical

use it while you can its pretty fun

but it utterly trivializes everything

[ebon jolt]

They need to indirectly buff BR by reducing the cooldown of Kinetic Flayer (because it's kind of bad) and extending the duration of Becalming Eruption. While they are at it they should flat out change Warp Rupture to do something else so it doesn't suck.

[maiden cedar]

Making it actually do damage would be nice

[plucky flax]

7s cd on flayer

[bleak tulip]

idk we can go dig through this channel and look for all the things people came up with to fix BB in 2022 and we still wouldnt get it

[maiden cedar]

Like give you a choice between horde burning or specialist evaporating

[bleak tulip]

BB seems stuck in a weird design spot where they dont wanna make it stupid in lower difficulties like it used to be in the closed beta but not make it pointless on damnation+

and its been there arguably since the game came out

we just didnt use to have a choice

[sturdy dagger]

the 3 stacks dont increase the effect right? i dont see a reason to take triple stack if im just gonna be doing weird surge staff things

[bleak tulip]

no one stack is enough

just dont use smite and you keep the bonus

[normal matrix]

Regardless of muh breakpoint im still gonna run my funny shield EP BB build

[bleak tulip]

I mean at the end of the day the game is for fun

so do what you think is fun

[hearty oak]

Just disintegrates enemies. I was shocked they didn't figure it out yet

[dapper folio]

time for hadron to brick it!

[ebon jolt]

Blasphemy. The game is for math!

[worn cypress]

I mean then they proceed to make assail thats stupid in lower difficulties and damnation+

[normal matrix]

Very true, apologies if i came off as hostile i appreciate the information provided

[bleak tulip]

fun is just different for different people, some of us have fun doing dumb nerd shit

and talk about numbers

[dapper folio]

you know it

[bleak tulip]

and then I played ogryn for like 6 hours the other day and literally didnt waste a thought on meta

just rock

[bleak tulip]

precog isnt bad

[dapper folio]

I'm thinking

does precog apply to ranged dodges?

[ebon jolt]

I mean, I play gun psyker so I can’t say I’m exactly playing meta. Tons of fun though.

[bleak tulip]

fuck if I know, I dont think so

but youll be dodging enough shit in melee

[ebon jolt]

In pretty sure ranged dodge is a subset of dodge. So something like empathic evasion triggers precog.

[dapper folio]

if it does then this might be very nice

since I'm trying to get a nice ds for gunpsyker

[bleak tulip]

nice

change stam and precog out for crit or something and uncanny and you got a meta stick

[dapper folio]

yeah the maniac saved it

same for shred

[coarse bane]

They could change it to be mob health %. Does X% of certain enemies and 100% of smaller specials.

[worn cypress]

lol you unbricked it, thats awesome

[bleak tulip]

yeah people, myself included, have been hoping for it to get changed to something like "longer charge time for bigger health pool" or something

so you dont have to triple cast the ability that people meme about is basically just a laser pointer for the vet to kill it from under you because the cast time is so long

since like release

[dapper folio]

seeing people prioritise bb targets hurts now that I play psyker

[bleak tulip]

people made those memes about malice and stuff back last year

[dapper folio]

the shitpost wasn't joking

[bleak tulip]

at least they made it so you still get something out of it
and with this patch they made that worse again somewhat

now you literally should never BB anything other than elites, specials and bosses

unless its lilterally your only ranged tool

in which case I would argue, no offense, your build is kinda bad

[worn cypress]

itd be fun if they add some node where on BB, roll kinetic flayer on enemies on a 4m radius from target

ala perilous combustion

[bleak tulip]

imagine headpopping shooters and gunner in like half the time every time

[worn cypress]

this part of it sucks 😦

[bleak tulip]

it would actually be a viable range option

somewhat

still too slow but yknow

better than sitting in cover for like two seconds staring at your hands

for like one gunner

like shit, arguably assail is a better range option and that shit only has like 20 m range on left click and right click still feels wack

literally do not understand what the game design place of BB is

[worn cypress]

yeah

[bleak tulip]

its too slow for high difficulty elite killing, too slow to be a viable ranged option

[normal matrix]

It sucks but its consistent at least

[bleak tulip]

they made it so it cant even one shot dogs

a while back

[worn cypress]

I mean assail sucks on armor but BB also sucks on armor when theres 6 crushers in the room in aurics

[bleak tulip]

pretty much

[normal matrix]

If it consistently one-tapped specials at all diffs it would certainly be better yeah

[bleak tulip]

and with how weird their design ethos on psyker blitzes is, by the time they finally unfucked assail its probably so bad that I'd rather spend my talent points on other shit and not even have a blitz

[worn cypress]

it used to be quite effective back when hi int is the hardest we have, clutching by kiting two crushers trying to BB them

but now theres more shit it just doesnt scale

[bleak tulip]

now you just stab em in the face

[worn cypress]

yeah lmao

[bleak tulip]

yuo used BB because deimos was too much work to set up the stab when kiting everything

the charge attack has been nigh useless since day 1

because lmao time to get hit while I stand here

[scarlet barn]

are any of the other classes as fun as psyker

[worn cypress]

ds4 go brr

[bleak tulip]

ogryn very fun

zealot very fun

[worn cypress]

I'm liking post-patch zealot a ton

[dapper folio]

ogryn is great

[bleak tulip]

vet can mald

[normal matrix]

To a degree, but if you love being a quarter-schizophrenic brain wizard psyker is the most fun

[scarlet barn]

I could get behind ogryn perhaps

[worn cypress]

stealth zealot is so meme, the repent aura is so hilariously in character its delightful

[scarlet barn]

big friendly rock looks fun

[sturdy dagger]

the only class i cant find fun in is veteran

[maiden cedar]

Rippergun ogryn and evisorator zealot are the only things close to being as fun as psyker imo

[sturdy dagger]

gun? ig

[worn cypress]

eviscerator is so damn fun

so satisfying cutting shit down

[normal matrix]

I love the Choir of Spiritual Fortitude, its so good lmao

[worn cypress]

repent

[bleak tulip]

not the most efficient way to kill muties but the most fun

[normal matrix]

Why zealot has a stealth ability though is beyond me, the class is the antithesis of being sneaky

[bleak tulip]

think of them as too fast to see or something

dragon ball shit

[dapper folio]

nobody expects the inquisition

[normal matrix]

Fair, idk, i dont like that zealot has legitimate facilitation to play the team game solo now

[plucky flax]

It's me I'm the solo zealot.

Loner aura + stealth.

[dapper folio]

this will have to do for now

gonna replace that infested damage for sure though

[glossy hazel]

There is a zealot death cult
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Death_Cult

When are we getting high heels for male zealot Fatshart?

[maiden cedar]

Whoever did the costume design for all of the assassin/death cult stuff in 40k needs to be shot

[glossy hazel]

Why?

[maiden cedar]

Because its so hilariously out of place

[sturdy dagger]

bruh how, like it seems good but nothing game breaking like 1 milly what am i missing?

[bleak tulip]

dudes be dudes

what difficulty is that, that seems very low across the board

[worn cypress]

lol yeah

[maiden cedar]

Like the Elder being dominatrixes? Slightly understandable, they're alien and unnaturally agile to begin with. Whys this human fucking assassin wearing stripper heels tho

[sturdy dagger]

im a tier 4 bozo but this dmg is way lower than my typical BB build

[bleak tulip]

dunno but the damage inflation is usually a melee maelstrom thing

yknow a lot of elites you grill since even +1000% damge couldnt fix surge being dogshit at hordeclear

[sturdy dagger]

like its fun just watching 3 enemies turn into paste with each cast but i was expecting more from ur previous message

[stable silo]

should i become a wildfire gunker?

[bleak tulip]

its more the mauler and crushers that get giga fucked

[glossy hazel]

Why not?

[sturdy dagger]

do i dare step into tier 5 for the first time with this setup

[worn cypress]

I find damnation easier than heresy bc the teammates tend to be better

[bleak tulip]

why not, youre 30 you should be playing damnation anyway for more plasteel

[sturdy dagger]

yes but im a coward

also my game runs like ass so i worry random fps drops will kill me and ruin the run for my team

[glossy hazel]

If you stick to heresy or below, sure.
Gunspyker sucks eggs.

[bleak tulip]

damnation is basically normal warmup mode for the people that would care about that

[sturdy dagger]

pretty sure im scarred for life after trying tier 5 at launch as a no shield ogryn

[bleak tulip]

Ive seen fuckin lv14's go into damnation dozens of times

[normal matrix]

Please face the wall

[bleak tulip]

people dont care

im sure youll do fine

[glossy hazel]

Damnation is this games "normal", hi-intensity is "hard".
Anything below is Luigi mode

[worn cypress]

I somehow clutched auric maelstrom last night with my game lagging and rubberbanding every 5 seconds, ur good bro

[stable silo]

thats it im taking this into maelstrom auric damnation

[worn cypress]

lmao fuck yea

live the meme

[bleak tulip]

like the only time I played anything but 5 was while finally leveling ogryn because I refuse to be a lv 14 player with a white weapon shitting up a damnation run

[normal matrix]

It is such a strange disconnect between the highest and lowest levels of play in Tide games

[glossy hazel]

Prepare to get flamed for being useless, because that's what you'll be with your super soaker

[stable silo]

yeah but jsut wait till its heretical wet T Shirt contest days then who will be laughing

me, i will be laughing

[bleak tulip]

get flamed for eating all the ammo more like

[coarse bane]

Yeah, that's a massive pet peeve having an ability get wasted.

[normal matrix]

At the highest level is the sort who play auric damn maelstrom and go "that was fun time to do it again anything below this is baby shit" and then out the gate are newbies who piss the bed dealing with 3 scab stalkers in melee on sedition

[sturdy dagger]

i kinda just threw this together thinking it was good enough for my unoptimal ass, thoughts? im not worried about it being like min maxed just lmk if the blessings are troll or something

[bleak tulip]

every time I see a youtubeman™️ make a guide about DT I see at least a few snippets of them using BB and every time they get their shit stolen or they waste it on bruisers and shooters and shit as if that does anything but reset your warp charge timer at most

its comical

[plucky flax]

2 surge staff 2 columbus infantry autogun.

I smell ez win.

[normal matrix]

Idk seems fine

[glad viper]

the thing there is, it can be super useful (I have a bleed knife solo build) but the players have to keep an eye on the team and eliminate threats like gunners and snipers fast and reliably :V

[bleak tulip]

sit there doing wololo for 2 seconds to kill a guy you dont even look at during regular gameplay you kill em so fast and frequent

[rough compass]

I'm curious how wacky things get w/ Psykinetic's Aura on hi intensity specialist missions

[rare storm]

It's fine, would be nicer to have charge rate over warp resist, but overall it's okay

[sturdy dagger]

wait i just heard in a clip about smite talents also affecting surge? i took them off thinking i wouldnt be using smite rip

[rough compass]

Just everybody getting their specials back instantly

[rare storm]

Only lightning storm

[sturdy dagger]

[rare storm]

You get 2 bounces onto your m2 surge

doesn't do much damage but it's a CC

[bleak tulip]

its not quite that insane but its nice

[rough compass]

Also is Psychic Communion on ANY kill? At all?

[worn cypress]

and if you accidentally wiped the team in auric maelstrom its a chill nt gg and sometimes even merge strike team and try again. meanwhile take an ammo pack in t3 from a vet and get flamed

[glossy hazel]

You are better off taking assail for surge

[bleak tulip]

is columnus the latest vet meme?

[glossy hazel]

Or brain burst

[bleak tulip]

which one's that again

[glossy hazel]

Illsi + Surge + Assail has been my favorite combo.
Only thing it can't deal with is really far away snipers.

[rare storm]

OR You can fully dive into the role of a god of lightning and only use smite related attacks

[rough compass]

4% chance to get warp stacks on kill

By you or teammates

[bleak tulip]

oh vampire? yeah

it is

[rough compass]

Okay that sounds busted

[normal matrix]

Its quite good

[bleak tulip]

its been solidly top tier basically since release

[glossy hazel]

If smite actually did damage I'd use it more but the best form of CC is rendering the target motionless, forever.

[rough compass]

4% ain't much, but considering how many enemy deaths there are at any given time

[bleak tulip]

yup

[rough compass]

I've been sleeping on it because I assumed it was on elite kill

Not just ANY kill

[worn cypress]

its even good on lower difficulties

[normal matrix]

4% is quite a bit in a co-op horde shooter

[worn cypress]

triggers more often than you think it would

[rough compass]

I imagine it snowballs pretty hard on higher difficulties with higher enemy density

[bleak tulip]

damnation often shakes out to about 100 kills a minute so yeah do the math

[glossy hazel]

Warp stacks are the best keystone, unironically
Empowered Psyonics are meh and disrupt destiny is super situational and if you can't get another stack then all of it is gone unlike warp stacks

[rare storm]

only problem is how many points you need for the 6 stacks lmao

DD is technically the biggest dmg boost tho

[rough compass]

I've been enjoying it so far

[glossy hazel]

I've tried DD but it's really weird

[thin finch]

it is

[rough compass]

Actually considering dropping the dome shield and trying out the wall

[glossy hazel]

Sometimes the whole battlefield is highlighted in blue and another there is no blue highlights for 10 minutes

[rough compass]

Especially since you can get two charges of the wall

[rare storm]

They just need to fix the non-highlight issue

[worn cypress]

the wall is fun to use as a stun

[glossy hazel]

Stun Wall > Dome

[rough compass]

The part that would suck is just not having the toughness regen

[thin finch]

it is a debate with upside and downside

[worn cypress]

dome is better for clutching I guess

[glossy hazel]

It's very rare that you need 100% coverage from shield

[thin finch]

Dome is a better panic button , wall if a funnier Mutie Bonk

[bleak tulip]

DD's gotten better

[dark stag]

is this worth the sire coins?

[rough compass]

Dome shield is also excellent for getting your teammates to go where you want them

[normal matrix]

I prefer the walls, lower CD and you get two'em

[thin finch]

you don't need full coverage , as his ass is being roasted by a flamer

[bleak tulip]

I wanna say they mostly fixed the invisible marking now?

dont know if I noticed it lately

[small whale]

Dome better

[glossy hazel]

That's why stun wall is better

[small whale]

it gives 50% dr

and toughness regen

[near wyvern]

Nope

[bleak tulip]

aw

[rare storm]

not really

[glossy hazel]

Just place one behind you aswell? You get two charges

[normal matrix]

The dome doesnt stop fire anyway

[bleak tulip]

guess I was getting lucky

[normal matrix]

I dont think

[thin finch]

it does

stop flame , net, grenade , Larva slime and bad odor

[bleak tulip]

directional shield is funny for blocking way more shit than you think it does, like dogs and muties

[rough compass]

Dunno, it feels pretty clutch to drop a dome right as the fireteam gets opened up on by a strike team of gunners

[small whale]

the shield pops so fast against hound waves and mutie waves

[normal matrix]

Hit them with that League of Legends Poppy E

[bleak tulip]

yeah but its funny

[left basin]

is obscurus better at anything now

[bleak tulip]

no

[normal matrix]

Its better at living up to its namesake, being obscure

[glossy hazel]

If you need to rely on dome shield to handle shooters/gunners, I have some bad news for you

[bleak tulip]

its the DS era old man, obs is even more outclassed than before

[worn cypress]

eh idk a bunch of people seem to bring obs in my games

[bleak tulip]

those are what we call "the uninformed"

[glossy hazel]

Illsi clears hordes better than DS and Deimos pokes better than DS
Dueling swords are strong but they ain't got nothing on those two

[worn cypress]

I mean like, level 300+ psykers in auric maelstrom

[bleak tulip]

deimos is lower poke dps is the problem

[worn cypress]

not randoms in t4 lol

[bleak tulip]

and you need prep to get the good one

and ds 4 still one shots muties on a headshot and even if it doesnt your second stab is so fast it doesnt matter

[normal matrix]

I like the dueling sword because its got hella style

No other class rocks as much Dorippu in the weaponry department

[bleak tulip]

also the DS stagger is more useful than deimos charge by any metric

[worn cypress]

I’ve always been a DS boi since launch so honestly idgaf what force swords people are using

[royal granite]

i think i'm gonna start using assail on aurics with nurgle's blessing. BB doesn't feel worthwhile and smite just doesn't work when there's CC immune enemies peppered in

[bleak tulip]

I was all FS all the time until this patch pretty much

[royal granite]

they just walk up and stagger you out

[snow coral]

gotta love players who are so toxic that they have to act mysongynistic at a female avatar

[glossy hazel]

I want heavy sword on psyker and dueling sword on zealot, both on veteran.
Am I alone?

[bleak tulip]

psyker horde clear is so abundant now that you dont need a melee weapon to also do it

[worn cypress]

I switched to FSes when they were too good to not use but glad to be back

[royal granite]

lmao someone called me a homophobic slur for not having enough damage on the end of round scoreboard

[bleak tulip]

wow lmao

[snow coral]

yeah I kept getting referred to as 'gamer gurl', and it was my fault he went down first apparently, lol

he was also talking shit about another player who went down and left the match

[royal granite]

yeah that tracks

[snow coral]

like ok bud, i see how important this GAME is to you

[worn cypress]

illisi melee psyker was lots of fun while it lasted tho

lol

what difficulty is that

[snow coral]

yeah how dare you be so weak!

[royal granite]

you can still use illisi just fine imo

[snow coral]

auric maelstrom

we were doing fine until we weren't as is usually the case, lol

[worn cypress]

you can but its no longer cuts like butter bc slaughterer nerf

[royal granite]

ah, too bad

[bleak tulip]

just on the basis of the avatar? all my chars are female and I never got that, you musta really got the shiny giga misogynist

[glossy hazel]

That's why you put slaughterer and uncanny on Illsi

[snow coral]

yeah illis feels bad after the update, I have been enjoying the MK IV though

[worn cypress]

lol rip you wouldve thought they’ve grown up a little by then

[royal granite]

have you tried doing a scrier's gaze melee build?

[snow coral]

yeah, I never talked on voice, dude was just toxic

[bleak tulip]

lmao

[royal granite]

some people are just awful, not much you can do about it

[snow coral]

oh yeah, it's kinda funny, if it wasn't so sad

[royal granite]

wish it was easier to report people

[snow coral]

yup

i wish there was a way to auto mute lobbies

is there a mod for that?

[worn cypress]

man I’m sorry that you keep rolling toxic teammates

[snow coral]

9 out of 10 times if someone is on voice I don't want to listen to them

[royal granite]

oh toxicity is super rare in my experience

[worn cypress]

yeah me too

[snow coral]

oh it's not often, but this guy this morning was something else

[royal granite]

but when you're putting in a lot of hours it happens

[snow coral]

Yeah, I've got just over 500 and I can probably count on one hand the bad players I've run into

[worn cypress]

one of the few games I’m comfy being in vc w/o making myself sound like a dude

[bleak tulip]

assuming NA, how many people do you guys even get on voice at all?

[snow coral]

well... bad as in toxic... bad as in no skill is another convo 🤣

[worn cypress]

I dont usually start w/ voice but I’ll get on voice if others are doing it

[royal granite]

special shoutout to the people who run ahead in auric maelstrom, get obliterated by a special and instantly quit

i usually just don't do voice, got the dysphoria

[bleak tulip]

how many other people do it in your games

I more meant

[royal granite]

i find people using voice to be pretty rare in europe

[unique sand]

whats the dump stat on the voidstrike staff?

[bleak tulip]

just curious because usually NA is a lot more active with voice

[worn cypress]

1 in 3-5 games in my experience in NA?

[bleak tulip]

yeah thats why, I had like two people talk in the last 100 ish games in EU lol

[royal granite]

peril resist and quell speed

[bleak tulip]

blast radius

[worn cypress]

vc frequency def increased after xbox, understandably

[unique sand]

well shit

rip then

[slow raven]

wait thats not bad

[bleak tulip]

yeah charge you really want lol

[slow raven]

inspect the charge rate

[royal granite]

blast radius is more useful than quell speed since we have solidity

[slow raven]

the lowest to highest charge rate is like nothing

[bleak tulip]

its a % iirc

so its pretty meaningless

its just that you cast so much that it adds up

its not unusable by any means but its far from ideal

[unique sand]

warp flurry does help quite a bit

[bleak tulip]

yeah

void's still kinda overtuned itll do fine

[royal granite]

we can quell without losing flurry now

that's neat

[worn cypress]

boy I wonder what theyre gonna do to nerf void

[royal granite]

i don't think it's overtuned, it's just good

[bleak tulip]

its certainly not where it was in 13

[worn cypress]

its a little silly right now

[bleak tulip]

in that regard its definitely better

now you cant literally one shot crushers anymore without a lot of prep

so theres that

[royal granite]

it's only REALLY strong with surge, otherwise it's just decent

[bleak tulip]

I would be surprised if they nerf it again for a while

havent seen anybody complain about it in a while

[worn cypress]

I can see a minor tuning

[royal granite]

but that's in line with most strong weapons on optimal blessings

[bleak tulip]

they might make surge blessing worse or tune carapace damage again so you have to do somthing other than "brr right click" to kill crushers

[royal granite]

and for once it's not stronger than an optimal plasma

vet can oneshot a crusher THROUGH A WALL, we can't do that!

[next meteor]

Coming back after an extended break from the game; how would the staves be ranked in the current version?

[bleak tulip]

with or without bugs?

[next meteor]

Lmao without

[bleak tulip]

totally unbiased opinion
void>trauma>surge>purg

[royal granite]

probably void>trauma>surge>purge

[royal granite]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-handshake-muscle-strong-man-gif-5783927

[next meteor]

Really? Purge is at the bottom?

[snow coral]

void doesn't feel nearly as good now after 14

it went from OK, to amazing, to slightly better than OK now IMO

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's very strong.

[bleak tulip]

yeah everything does horde clear and purg has nothing for cara

[next meteor]

Fair

[stable silo]

im still using EP for assail build and it feels fine

[royal granite]

purge is good, just not as good

[bleak tulip]

which is an issue with tankier crushers and more on auric

[royal granite]

it could be better

[next meteor]

Gotcha

[plucky flax]

I out damage assail surge psyker feelsgood.

[next meteor]

I remember exclusively using purge

Fun staff

[royal granite]

like right now purge is outclassed at its job by most other crowd clearing tools

[next meteor]

How about class builds

[bleak tulip]

show gun so I can shamelessly rip it off

[worn cypress]

I still use purg because its fun

[bleak tulip]

[snow coral]

purge isn't meant to cc anymore

[next meteor]

What’s considered the strongest

[snow coral]

purge is more DPS against a 1-2 targets

[next meteor]

I don’t actually want to build meta-wise, I’m just curious

[plucky flax]

2nd blessing is whatever you like. Dumdum is must.

[royal granite]

same, but not for maelstroms i think

[bleak tulip]

thanks

[plucky flax]

I don't have dumdum t4. Luckily t3 and t4 is only 2.5% power.

[royal granite]

i'm just gonna start running assail on nurgle's blessing maelstroms, i don't care anymore, smite is worse than useless for it and brain burst just sucks the same way it's always sucked

i keep going back and forth on BB to be fair

[stable silo]

the true gunker gun is this one, you may not like it but its peak performance

[bleak tulip]

its fine I am already at least one tier of dum dum

I can compensate

[royal granite]

raise you this one

[bleak tulip]

the staves are all in a decent spot, none of them feel useless for the first time

[worn cypress]

I’m kinda going back and forth on my void/smite build or purg/assail depending on the mods

[next meteor]

Glad to hear it

[royal granite]

i need to get the mod that lets you put the kantrael sights on it though, the ironsights on headhunters is killing me

[worn cypress]

depending on the mods

[bleak tulip]

you can still run purg and do fine, you just gotta compensate for the weaknesses

[next meteor]

I remember when trauma was definitively the worst

Which was a shame

[bleak tulip]

yeah

[next meteor]

Because it’s cool

[bleak tulip]

trauma has been good for a while

[next meteor]

Good

[bleak tulip]

and they made left clicks better too

you dont have to RSI yourself to shoot semi fast

[normal matrix]

Trauma returns me to the good old days of playing sienna and scaring THE SHIT out of people with my M2 lmao

[strong gulch]

Crosshair Remap
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/48

[worn cypress]

honestly the big purg pushback is from the long run of new people being told to use it since its the best, who doesnt know how to use it

its pretty non obvious that purg is meant to be played melee

[plucky flax]

Man out here sabotaging me.

[royal granite]

nah there's a mod that lets you change the visuals on your guns, including moving sights and stuff over from other guns

not on nexus though i don't think

[normal matrix]

Its in the modder server

Super good

[strong gulch]

oh neat

[royal granite]

fatshark have said they're okay with it so

really makes me wonder why they didn't put in some kind of weapon modding for the base game

[slow raven]

crosshair remap is so good, i use it on almost every gun since the defaults are so bad

[royal granite]

a lot of the guns just have garbage ironsights

[slow raven]

the staff crosshairs sabotage you and trick you into missing

[worn cypress]

that mod is enabling systems already available in the game

[slow raven]

i got 10x better at the left click once i remapped the staff crosshair

[royal granite]

really?

[worn cypress]

so I wonder if we’ll see an official patch

[royal granite]

i hope so

[worn cypress]

thats what I’ve heard from people

fatshark had most of it already built into the game

[sturdy dagger]

i went into a low intensity tier 5, we turned the corner and insta wiped to about 15 gunners...

[royal granite]

the laspistol and kantrael sights are so good

[strong gulch]

Same. I could never focus on the center dot.

[worn cypress]

lol the AI director is kinda wack with spawns right now

[ornate hamlet]

why is the surge staff insane

[bleak tulip]

happens

[worn cypress]

bug

EP affects surge staff rn

[ornate hamlet]

but what if you dont use EP

[royal granite]

i like the gunner spam, makes bubble shield feel more valuable

[ornate hamlet]

i see surge staff still being insane without the psyker using EP

[worn cypress]

its still pretty good w/o

[royal granite]

yeah i also have no idea how people are making the surge staff do so much work without the bug, the blessings available on it are mid

[bleak tulip]

its a weird semi single target weapon now which I really dont understand but hey I dont have to understand everything

[worn cypress]

I miss the old surge staff

I’d turn in smite to get it back 😭

[bleak tulip]

wdym its the perfect weapon, it has only two usable blessings, no questions

[ornate hamlet]

surge insta kills basically every elite

its annoying playing with surge staff users since they just do everything

[royal granite]

it can't oneshot ogryns or the ragers when i try it

anyway, back to the salt mines

[ornate hamlet]

why cant psyker just be balanced and fun to play with

[unborn flicker]

Asking the real questions

Shits either useless or stupid op

And most if not all takes zero skill

[worn cypress]

when vet deletes everything nobody gives a shit but when we do everyone calls for nerfs? racism

[unborn flicker]

It’s because vet has to aim lol

I can spam flick with most stuff half assedly

[worn cypress]

jokes aside surge is fine honestly, strong single target dmg but absolutely shit at clearing anything

[unborn flicker]

And kill everyone

[unborn flicker]

Surge smite combo is banger

[worn cypress]

absolutely shit at clearing anything still true

[unborn flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sheev-palpatine-unlimited-power-power-force-gif-5073064

[wispy pike]

The palpatine build

[chilly blaze]

there any reason to take a force sword over a dueling sword atm

[ornate hamlet]

dueling sword heavy can insta kill a mutant while force sword charged heavy cant

[proud pasture]

What perks do I roll on this?

[exotic lily]

Is this still correct?

[quasi junco]

What site is that from?

[exotic lily]

from the pinned guide in this channel on steam

just concerned as its from march, a bit out dated

[glossy ember]

how dare u, run and gun is based!!!

man if only you weren't slowed down while charging, and the sprint wasnt forcefully stopped when releasing

it'd be so goated

[quasi junco]

Thinking of a Void/Surge/Telekine/Empowered Psy build. Thoughts?

Melee weapon would be Mk1 claw or illisi

[keen slate]

What's so good about Deimos Mk 4?

Tried using it, but it kinda sucks

[stiff reef]

Lobotomite treating me well

[glossy ember]

stabby stab stab...

[stiff reef]

It does not suck, its just very specific with its moveset. I love it

[ornate hamlet]

Deimos has bullshit stabs

[wispy pike]

Deimos 4 is good at single target. Thats it.

[keen slate]

hmm

[stiff reef]

The maker of that guide is active here and has written in the readme of the guide that he is working on the update for Patch #14

[keen slate]

well gues i'll stick to dueling then

[stiff reef]

Whatever works best for you

I am still a noobie so the force push from Deimos is invaluable to me

[velvet crypt]

hey guys, newish psyker here. i tried making a smite support build but i feel like it lacks power am i doing it wrong?

[proud pasture]

Smite is very weak as far as dmg output goes and it's main use is locking down a room

There's some builds that make it do competent dmg

But nothing like assail for example

[stiff reef]

I tend to run Surge Staff for the constant CC/Support with Shield, then swap to Smite for locking down massive hordes

[proud pasture]

Or scriers gaze/void strike

[velvet crypt]

its kinda what I'm trying to do. i'd put my talent tree up but I cant get it in one screenshot

[proud pasture]

It still feels kinda bad even with EP

[stable silo]

jsut join the EP assail voidstrike illis master race

[stiff reef]

I never feel its weak when I can freeze an entire screen of hundreds of mobs

And just let my team recover

[proud pasture]

I honestly can't bring myself to use assail lol

It just takes the fun out of the game for me

[glossy ember]

how's scrier's gaze fellas? that buff looks brutal

i have a feeling auric damnation will be a lot scarier without a shield ult though lmao

[rare storm]

Was there a buff to scriers?

[glossy ember]

no sorry i meant

scrier gives a buff

to the psyker

[rare storm]

ohhh

It's good

[normal matrix]

Scrier is fun but you are liable to explode

[rare storm]

It's the ideal path for gunker

[glossy ember]

doesn't it have less peril generation with that left node?

[obtuse moth]

Combo it with the venting shriek with soulblaze and vent at a horde when your peril is over 85%. You can lock down and clear rooms that way, and the peril gren from smite works in your favor. I prefer using warp siphon to empowered psiojnics with this build with the peril resist. The cooldown reduction and venting let you bounce back and forth between the two skills better.

[glossy ember]

or is that left node not worth

[rare storm]

it's.... slightly less

[normal matrix]

Its worth but gens peril up to 100 regardless

[rare storm]

You still gain like 5 peril every second lol

[glossy ember]

oh i see dang

[stable silo]

but u wont blow up because it auto turns off at 100 peril

[glossy ember]

do warp stacks affect that?

[stable silo]

as long as u dont use any other warp abilities

so gunker ftw!

[normal matrix]

Peril builds faster the longer it is on btw

[rare storm]

yes it does

But ws + scriers is ALOT of talent points

so you'd probably be running 4 stacks instead of 6 anyway

[glossy ember]

i can fit it

hold on

[rare storm]

You can try it out, might be diminishing returns just for that 2 extra stacks

[rare storm]

but yeee scrier gunker is solid 10/10

[glossy ember]

it's almost the same as my current shield build but i go scrier instead

[ebon jolt]

WS currently doesn’t give CDR to SG so it’s not optimal but use it if you like.

[normal matrix]

I used to use scrier with my purg staff before i switched to shields funnily enough

[glossy ember]

oh

[glossy ember]

does it still consume stacks

[rare storm]

oh wait duh, ya that's perfectly fine

[ebon jolt]

Yea.

[glossy ember]

wtf

[rare storm]

but you still gain ws stacks for free anyway so it doesn't matter much

[obtuse moth]

I find scriers best for melee psyker tbh. Way easier to build stacks just cleaving heads in a horde and the movement speed really helps with melee combat. you can get up to +60% movement speed if you stack your talents

[glossy ember]

ye but no cdr shame

[ebon jolt]

Someone reported the bug on the forums some weeks back and it’s been acknowledged.

[glossy ember]

ok cool

[rare storm]

yeeebwoi

[glossy ember]

BB my beloved

[normal matrix]

I dont understand the appeal of gun or melee psyker, half of the pizzazz is being a schizo wizard

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-seal-bubble-speech-bubble-speech-gif-12040464551484857478

[ebon jolt]

I think shield is viable for gun psyker as well. Guns like the Mk7 HAG already do so much damage gaze doesn’t provide as much value. I think shield offers better utility in that scenario.

[rare storm]

Then it is just not for you lol

[normal matrix]

Correct

[ornate hamlet]

Part of the appeal is being a schizo wizard with a gun

[glossy ember]

arent bullets magic if they've been blessed

[obtuse moth]

i play all varieties of psyker, since doing the same thing over and over again gets stale

[rare storm]

I'm a schizo arsonist with a dueling sword, works perfectly well with scriers

[ornate hamlet]

The entire world of Harry Potter runs on "they hide because they would be absolutely decimated by guns", even

[normal matrix]

[RESPONSE PURGED BY THE ORDO HERETICUS, PRAISE BE THE GOD EMPEROR]

[stable silo]

avada keva boom headshot

[obtuse moth]

you also still can use a psyker alternate weapon, and also a blitz and ultimate skill, not to mention you can still set everything on blue fire

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah, wanna see them shout out their special moves before a bullet reaches them

[glossy ember]

coulda been done in one tome if the story happened in america

can roleplay as a psyker that can't shoot beam but enchant weapons using a force sword and a gun, i guess

idk anythif about lore

[obtuse moth]

one big thing with using psyker is you still have an ammoless specialised toolkit to deal with the enemies your weapons are weak to

[normal matrix]

Psykers essentially draw power from the SOUL DIMENSION where the CHAOS GODS exist

Force swords and staves are designed to utilize this energy

[stable silo]

hey they arent chaos gods thats heresy the only god is the God Emporer of Mankind the chaos farts are just big soul farts hotboxing themselves in the warp

[glossy ember]

you mean the beloved who definitely isn't a being of chaos right

[glossy ember]

ok cool makes sense

[stable silo]

beloved might actually be a fragmented part of the emp

[normal matrix]

The running theory is the seers beloved is a fragment of the emperor that is in the warp yes

[glossy ember]

i read people think it's a greater tseench demon cuz they dislike nurgle, or something

[stable silo]

hes splitting apart as he ascends to true chaos god status

[normal matrix]

Though this is just speculative and he legit could just be a schizophrenic because psykers are nutcases on the best of days

[stable silo]

look at when rowboat tried to talk to him

[normal matrix]

My personal guess is the strain of literally deleting Horus from existence coupled with his injuries shattered his psyche to a degree

[magic vessel]

Perks and Blessings on Chainsword (other than bloodletter)?

[stable silo]

did the final book of HH come out yet?

i personally emjoy the theory that sanguinious is the one that wounded the emp

[normal matrix]

Probably not but the lore so far established is the emperor unironically destroyed the soul of Horus

Like, he SUPER KILLED him

[stable silo]

oh he slaughtered that soul theres nothing left

[normal matrix]

Yeah, he erased Horus, he cant come back

He doesnt exist in the materium or immaterium

Dude is gone gone

[stable silo]

but the theory is like sang fell to the blood rage during the fight with horus then wounded emp forcing emp to kill him then horus was like haha fucking nerd emp then that pissed off emp so goodbye horus soul

[normal matrix]

Either way the end result is the same

[stable silo]

well look at fulgrim when he gave up his soul to ascend it went into the clone

horus's clone had no soul there was nothing for the body to anchor

[normal matrix]

Where even is clonegrim isnt he in one of Trazyns pokeballs?

[inner seal]

whats the best weps for psyker atm

[stable silo]

current meta mk4 dueling sword voidstrike staff assail build but people love surge/smite as well or trauma

[terse rivet]

Illisi force sword is good as well

[stable silo]

clonegrim exists with trazyn now

[magic vessel]

Trauma, Void staff, Surge (if using bug), Mk4 dueling, Deimos, Illisi would be my top of each category

[stable silo]

illis is sweet but not as good i still rock it because i love it so much

i even dropped soooo many resources into crafting a good mk4 duel but i just dont like the feel of it IMO

does crazy dmg though

[magic vessel]

Yeah I think i like every melee except the rapier, just doesn't work for me

[terse rivet]

The mobility of dueling swords feels amazing, the horde clear is just bad

[glossy ember]

without EP does scrier help surge staff reach higher breakpoints or nah

lower breakpoints, rather

[keen slate]

With handle should I use?

All look good and I can't deside

[bleak tulip]

roll d4

[normal matrix]

Handle 4 it protects your fingies

[idle aurora]

force katana when ?

Release your inner warp weeb

[thin finch]

Handle one to add a roll of toilet paper

[keen slate]

I can make it

I'll do it

one sec

[steel flame]

If you stick rampage onto 4 it's horde clear is great

[hazy cedar]

Mk4 with rampage deals with horde very well imo.

[wheat acorn]

allies get CD yes?

if they are in coherenecy

[glossy ember]

think so yes

[terse rivet]

Its not really the damage, its the spammed diagonal swings. It’s not bad horde clear, it’s just not great. Compared to repeated flat horizontal swings. i don’t bring the dueling sword for hordes I bring it because it one shots muties dogs, 3-4 shots crushers with the rending blessings and 1 taps most elites.

[bleak tulip]

that rain guard looks really bad on such a slim blade

[terse rivet]

I wouldn’t want to sacrifice rending or precog/riposte for rampage but that’s just my preference

[bleak tulip]

als othe crossguard and handle are overproportioned

[keen slate]

There's no way to remove power sword module

[terse rivet]

It looks like an OG telephone lmfao

[bleak tulip]

guess dont use the FS hilt on DS blades at all then, looks way too chonk

[inner seal]

what about leveling up? try to get that sword and staff?

[keen slate]

I can make something like this

[keen slate]

It's Force Sword

i literally can't remove it

[bleak tulip]

the hilt is everything from the blade down

[keen slate]

You want this then?

[terse rivet]

Don’t even bother giving a shit what you use while leveling up. Worry about acquiring stuff when you reach max level. Just use whatever is rewarded to you after missions and save every last bit of your resources

[bleak tulip]

looks better with the heavy sword

[amber nest]

So I just made this... Do I go for the crit and keep Surge?

[wheat acorn]

this gives the ability CD for both ME AND ALLIES ja? Cuz im getting told its only for me, and if so its fucking dumb to say its for allies as well

[bleak tulip]

eat it for rending 4 since thats very good on trauma bu the base isnt perfect

[terse rivet]

Wait what the fuck you can get surge on trauma? Does that just apply on primary fire?

[amber nest]

Eating it isn't an option since I don't have any other trauma

[bleak tulip]

or eat it for surge because its rare

[keen slate]

Well, game counts this part as hilt

[bleak tulip]

primary

[bleak tulip]

well the game is wrong then I guess

thats a rain guard

[amber nest]

Alright, so Surge doesn't work for the Rending Shockwave

[keen slate]

I'd say it's psy sword module

[amber nest]

Guess I just set it to Flak and Carapace for now and eat it for Rending Shockwave when I get a better one

[terse rivet]

Both of those are really good perks. I would recommend eating the surge

[keen slate]

Not many choices here

[terse rivet]

Unless you have no interest on ever running a voidstrike

[bleak tulip]

surge is mostly a meme on trauma

[amber nest]

You can't eat Surge on Trauma to get it on Void

Unless they changed it?

[bleak tulip]

doesnt trade over

[terse rivet]

Oh oh eat the rending

[amber nest]

I will, but for now it's the best one I have

[terse rivet]

I forgot been playing too much vet recently forgot staffs are all considered independent

[amber nest]

I'll just swap out the perks for Flak and Carapace and use it till I can swap it out

[strong gulch]

Surge doesn't work on the PMB charge. Rending is much better for trauma.

Use this until you get something else. You want charge rate, blast radius, and damage as high as possible.

I'd swap surge to warp flurry and unarmoured to flak.

[terse rivet]

Although to be fair. Primary fire is pretty wild now on all the force staffs

[keen slate]

The dragon slayer of Darktide

[amber nest]

Alright, thanks for the input 🙂

[strong gulch]

Whale Fin snake plant, is that you??

[amber nest]

I just realized I don't even have Warp Flurry on a Trauma, time to hunt for it 😛

[loud ferry]

I just started playing as a psyker any tips ! 😄

[inner seal]

how do i join my parties lobby??

[fresh reef]

can we make Shriek stagger bosses please?
It would be so funny

[fresh reef]

social menu > join strike team?

[terse bone]

Which duelling sword is strongest?

[bleak tulip]

4

[inner seal]

did that

[fresh reef]

Mk4

[inner seal]

still not in the same

[bleak tulip]

you mean the same morningstar?

[strong gulch]

After a match y'all should load into the same instance on the mourntinstar.

[bleak tulip]

itll usually put you in the same one after a round

[terse bone]

Which Blessings + Perks?

[fresh reef]

Maniac/Flak, Uncanny/Rampage I think are the top picks rn

[bleak tulip]

uncanny and your choice of shred, precog or riposte usually

uncanny is the non negotiable one

[strong gulch]

Keep an eye on your peril and quell often. You don't have to quell to 0%.

You can quell while dodge sliding for more mobility.

Keep your head on a swivel.

[ornate hamlet]

use shout with soulblaze + elite kill soulblaze
use a laser weapon with inferno
use knife with bleed blessings

you are the one who stacks dot

[bleak tulip]

use staves, theyre basically always better to use than guns on psyker

c:<

[terse bone]

I will never use guns on a pyker!

Psyker xD

[ornate hamlet]

staffs cant inflict burn though

[terse bone]

Dont care

xD

[bleak tulip]

I mean they can, just not normal burn

shiny burn is better anyway

because shiny

[terse bone]

yea

Blue Flame best flame

[ornate hamlet]

the whole point of what i said is so u alone can apply every dot in the game

and because only one player can own dot stacks

you are the one who stacks

[crude cape]

should i pick up t4 infurnus on a recon lasgun from melks? (I have plenty of points) I dont play gun psyker much, but on vet that blessing is decent on that set of guns right?

[glossy ember]

thoughts on the drip?

[wide galleon]

where is the drip

[somber dew]

Looks nice, quite drippy

[glossy ember]

thanks

[glossy ember]

she just needs to get into the sewers and there'll be drip

[plucky flare]

my first 550 weapon

[glossy ember]

wait does scrier's gaze not have voicelines

nvm it's just psykhenarium

ok i'm definitely running the -20% peril generation on scrier's gaze

[royal granite]

it feels weirdly bad

[glossy ember]

you mean the fact gaze has no animation?

yeah it feels really lackluster on that end

I kinda expected something

[royal granite]

no i mean it feels like i don't get much out of using scriers gaze

[glossy ember]

oh

Yeah I guess it's hard for numbers to compete over a big shield or venting tbh

[normal matrix]

Its mostly crit chance and... whatever else

[glossy ember]

yea

[royal granite]

and you can't use anything psyker related with it

if you use your blitz or a staff and you find you suddenly need gaze? you buffoon, you fool, you absolute moroon, your ability lasts 2 seconds now because you didn't vent all the way to 0 first

[glossy ember]

lmao yeah

[willow hazel]

Honestly just adding an animation and sound effects to Scrier's would make it so much better.

[fresh reef]

we do a little carrying

[gusty shadow]

what perks does one typically look for in a surge force staff? dmg vs flak/maniacs?

[royal granite]

maniac and carapace i believe

[gusty shadow]

are there breakpoints based on charge times?

[willow hazel]

Maniac/Flak or Maniac/Unyielding

[glossy ember]

i'm runnin flak maniac myself

[royal granite]

the base damage on flak is quite high isn't it

[willow hazel]

For max damage you want to fully charge. For normal enemies, snipers, bombers, etc.. you can usually get away with min charge.

[glossy ember]

wouldn't you make the most out of flak because of that?

not sure what the breakpoints are though

[willow hazel]

+Flak mostly just for maulers and gunners. It also slightly lowers the time to kill shotgunners.

[royal granite]

does it not oneshot shotgunners without +flak?

[glossy ember]

no clue

i don't hav plasteel to check it out

[gusty shadow]

the most troublesome enemies in my runs appear to be ragers and flak shotgunner groups. ragers seem especially tanky since they buffed them

[glossy ember]

well my staff doesn't have max damage though

[royal granite]

the buffed ragers are painful

[glossy ember]

so I can't tell you properly

[royal granite]

especially with nurgle's blessing

[willow hazel]

It should one shot shotgunners without +flak at full charge

[gusty shadow]

let me check right now

[shy fiber]

oop

idk which blessing to change

[gusty shadow]

oh yeah what about blessings

[brave fiber]

I like uncanny strike over shred

[willow hazel]

Riposte -> Uncanny

[shy fiber]

fair

[willow hazel]

@brave fiber that would lock both his perks

[shy fiber]

Oh true

I could just change Riposte to uncanny strike tbh

[brave fiber]

True, but uncanny is basically essential

[shy fiber]

and then change stamina to flak or whatever

[willow hazel]

Warp Flurry + Warp Nexus

[gusty shadow]

oh sweet I have both

[brave fiber]

And personally from what I’ve used of shred with dueling 4, it’s good but I prefer riposte

[steel flame]

Id change crit damage to maniac

[willow hazel]

Yeah they are both strong. Not sure which is better. Uncanny + either is a great dueling sowrd.

[steel flame]

At least stamina is useful

Crit damage is not

[shy fiber]

Ah okay

[steel flame]

Rn I prefer rampage and uncanny, least till they fix ramage giving more damage than it should

[brave fiber]

the real challenge is getting the right perks alongside with uncanny + whatever

[shy fiber]

ty

I need a change from my Deimos lol

[steel flame]

Crit damage is calculated really stupid in darktide

[shy fiber]

I suppose that weak spot damage doesn't do much for deimos sword either

[steel flame]

Same problem

[willow hazel]

What is the bug with rampage?

[steel flame]

It's calculated off the base damage of the weapon not the weak spot damage of the weapon just like crit damage

[steel flame]

It's giving about double damage

[hearty spade]

anyone tried blazing crit trauma staff?

[brave fiber]

one day a patch will come out where psyker has less than 3 bugs at once

[willow hazel]

Double as in +100% or 2x36%?

[rare storm]

It's pretty good

You'd want nexus instead of flurry tho

[steel flame]

About +100%

[willow hazel]

It's strong. You want Warp Nexus instead of Warp Flurry

[steel flame]

Don't remember the exact value

[hearty spade]

ye i know, but i have to either go for crit or non crit and cant do the other after i start crafting 😄

[willow hazel]

Wow. I wonder if it affects soulblaze

[brave fiber]

man I wish you could get blazing spirit on purgatus