psyker-class

[lunar hollow]

left chord is better

rampage/savage are the best 2 blessings rn, u can swap both perks

devstrike is depressingly terrible and should just be avoided

[tame venture]

no mods have been done to either sword

[lunar hollow]

left also has an overall better stat distribution

[tame venture]

how's bloodletter?

[lunar hollow]

it's... okay? the main benefit is single target vs bosses

but rampage/savage are far more generalist and will overall probably give better performance

[tame venture]

good to know

[lunar hollow]

rampage is also bugged rn so it gives the listed numerical bonus in power

+50% damage on top

(and these multiply against each other so the number is around 100% damage)

[tame venture]

change perks to unyielding and flak, right?

[lunar hollow]

yeah probs

i don't think u need much to hit the major BPs vs maniacs

but it never hurts to test it out in psykh and see what works best

for void i would go with the one on the right

surge is super powerful as a blessing and warp flurry isnt bad

[tame venture]

flurry and surge is meta, isn't it?

[lunar hollow]

thats what i run

since u can get crits from true aim in the psyker tree

[tame venture]

i had such a love affair with transfer peril though, but i don't think it keeps your peril in check that much

[lunar hollow]

idk if its strictly meta, u can make an argument for nexus over flurry but flurry feels more consistent

yeah transfer peril is nice but i dont find it hugely necessary

especially if you take shriek and psykinetic's wrath and just spam it

psykinetic's aura (?) i think actually

the CDR on elite kill one idr the name

[spice veldt]

psykinetic's aura

but you would know this for certain if you were a psyker main

[lunar hollow]

is it unchanged

[spice veldt]

i just joined into a game with someone screaming

[lunar hollow]

dude i keep calling most of the talents their old names

[spice veldt]

wtf

[lunar hollow]

leave and join mine so u will be prepared for the screaming

[tame venture]

well i guess at this point i need to get back on the grind for a surge staff, and a more functional purge staff

plasteel though 😔

[true veldt]

Does the monstrosity penance count the brain bursts of other psykers?

[tame venture]

believe it's you alone

[true veldt]

Shame

[tame venture]

iirc the only reliable way to do it is go in a lights out mission with a friend shield ogryn, have them wake a host, and then wail on him

[glossy ember]

sir i cant quell cancel i'm RUN N GUNNING

[glossy ember]

how do psykers even deal with lights out missions? switch to a gun with a flashlight?

[unique mist]

nonstop

always been non stop

[clear heath]

it definitely used to need non-stop

but i have no idea if it changed

[unique mist]

they reduced it by a minute i think

should be all the changes they made

[clear heath]

idk i just keep attacking and hope i hit something

[unique mist]

Surge staff

auto targets

[clear heath]

if i spin around and use surge, surely something dies

[glossy ember]

[silk hawk]

there was people who said that u can miss with surge thou

xD

[unique mist]

course you can

[grizzled jasper]

Ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh

[unique mist]

the aim cone is pretty large though

just wiggle your mouse around

also, as long as you mouse over an enemy before the final pullback, you'll still basically deal full damage

thats how i like to use surge staff

[silk hawk]

its like smart weapons in cyberpunk, but u actually can aim what enemy exactly u want to kill first XD

[glossy ember]

shame psykers can't duct tape a flashlight to their staffs

[unique mist]

who needs a flashlight when you have soulblaze shriek

also

poxwalker eyes glow

which is terrifying

[glossy ember]

huh

never noticed

[unique mist]

yeah so in a lights out mission when you have a horde incoming you can see them by their eyes

quite a lot of enemies do have glowing eyes

[silk hawk]

it makes it easier to understand and which direction u want to aim your surge XDDD

[unique mist]

but the poxwalker glow is dull

stuff like trapper and scab gunners glow pretty bright as part of their design

dreg gunners dont have glowing eyes afaik

[wide galleon]

I heard the mutie reading this

[silk hawk]

its only noticeable in a power cut off missions

[mossy canopy]

For crit lightning builds what's the dump stat on surge staves? I'd imagine some combo of warp res/quell but just checking

(Current staff I'm trying to replace for reference)

[glossy ember]

i read it was warp res

[tame venture]

...you can rename equipment?

[silk hawk]

quel speed, having a bigger clip is better bcuz there is another ways to quel peril aside of actually quelling it.

[mossy canopy]

There's a mod for it yeah

Thanks m8, now to hope the loot lotto spits one out like that for me

[silk hawk]

praise the Omnissiah XD

[dapper folio]

I've nearly finished leveling my psyker and I love brain burst but also I feel so bad for all the times I killed a BB target and didn't even think about it

[tame venture]

maybe the next thing to pick up is not exploding mobs away from zealot/ogryn lol

[dapper folio]

I've only got my vet left to level

might wait for the rework might not

[clear heath]

ok what did i do wrong here? Why the fuck did the daemonhost go after me and not the ogryn?

the ogryn fucking stood on top of it and taunted

what the fuck does it have against me?

[silk hawk]

u have stronger connection with the warp

xD

[nimble adder]

question why do psykers not use the dome shield?

[clear heath]

because soulblaze from my screams are 30% of my damage dealt

it is busted

[dapper folio]

ngl I only ever see dome shields

[nimble adder]

no i mean i never see dome shield since patch 14 its just the shield wall

[rough compass]

Y'know, brain burst would probably be a bit more fun to use if it had a talent that added a suppression AOE to it

Shock & Awe of your friends head asploding

[rough compass]

I use dome shield, I'm a team player

[frail sand]

i want blazing spirit to be actually useful so bad

also, Warp Rupture or Creeping Flames?

[ripe crater]

Just spam assail

[ripe crater]

I'm lazy. No shrieks, just the warp charge bonus for +24% base dmg and -36% peril gen. In emergencies can still use the shriek but generally I don't use it at all. Also 2 talent points I do not need to throw into shriek talents.

[light quail]

you have no idea how much i've grown to hate damnation assail spark'eads

[ripe crater]

that's ME!\

[light quail]

the second they get into melee, instantly folded

[ripe crater]

I only use melee for deflector

It's assail/void all the way. It's that I still don't have any single revolver with the Handcannon perk, otherwise it'd really just be assail. I've been wanting to go 100% assail for awhile.

[summer prairie]

With most weapons the base +24% from warp charges just adds to overkill damage, while creeping flames does not

[paper harbor]

probably DH assume every psyker use assail as he hate assail by discriminately :>

[summer prairie]

taunting doesn't work on daemonhosts anymore , not sure about the target selection otherwise

[ripe crater]

Tiga is my Assail Psyker

[summer prairie]

it would be funny if taunting now actually makes DH lose aggro

[ripe crater]

2 ogryn could juggle DH ^^\

[terse rivet]

the only dump stat is quell speed. you will regret not having as high of warp resistance as possible on that staff.

[terse rivet]

did tiga have a revolver?

[ripe crater]

No, I still don't have any handcannon blessing.

[summer prairie]

Quell and warp resistance do the same thing

[ripe crater]

But it does have tier 2 uncanny strike on force sword.

[summer prairie]

I haven't done exact math and looked at every staff, but often quell is just better

[ripe crater]

Warp resistance lowers peril generation? Always wondered what it did, but from your context.

[summer prairie]

yes

[ripe crater]

Always saw it as the dump stat.

And it is. Though I guess it depends on specific talents if you prefer quell or warp resistance as dump stat.

[terse rivet]

those dont look like they do the same thing

[summer prairie]

like your warp resistance stat may lower stat full charge peril generation by 1-2%

while your quell speed stat may increase peril quelled per tick by more than that

[clear heath]

I don't think taunt ever took aggro off DH to begin with, but i'm just shocked that the stagger it does doesn't make it favor the ogryn when waking up

i always assumed it went after whoever attacked it

[ripe crater]

I've never seen DH change targets after it chose one.

[clear heath]

or at least whoever's closer

both of which are not me

[summer prairie]

I just saw a taunt change that made it ignore daemonhosts, I don't how what it did before

it could be bugged and not consider taunting ogrryns valid targets or something

[clear heath]

stealth used to work

[rough compass]

I am greatly enjoying the Mk II Blaze Force Sword

Especially once I figured out the heavy stab will knock everything short of bosses on their asses with a headshot

Bullying Crushers all day long

[tall temple]

Is Revolver Psyker good or

[plucky flax]

Yeah especially with assail.

Put handcannon on revolver. Pick true aim. Profit.

[ripe crater]

Revolver for Psyker is good for the blessings only. It can apply crucian roulette crit chance, and handcannon rending, to assail.

[plucky flax]

It's also good for taking out specials.

Faster than assail and bb.

[wet belfry]

Revolver in general is a top tier weapon rn

[ripe crater]

So you empty your revolver first thing to get a permanent 30% crit chance bonus

for that round

Along with uncanny strike from melee weapon, which also applies to rend

You can then take out maulers quite easily with assail. I still lack blessings though.

[plucky flax]

Crucian roulette still works on melee or are you living in 2022?

[ripe crater]

I've only been playing this for a few weeks.

Also talking about assail

[plucky flax]

That was a bug last year but they fixed it ages ago.

Handcannon is still bugged though.

[ripe crater]

So crucian roulette doesn't apply to assail anymore either?

[plucky flax]

Nope definitely doesn't.

I am testing it right now.

[ripe crater]

Pfft. I have this revolver just waiting for me, with T4 crucian roulette and just good stats perks... Waiting for that handcannon perk to be applied.

[plucky flax]

What applies to assail is true aim.

The talent above dd.

That talent enables assail to crit all the times.

[ripe crater]

Oh damn. Never even went in that direction except for peril block

Never really liked how DD looks

[plucky flax]

You don't need to pick dd. But if you use assail a lot that talent is very strong.

My assail build I run empowered blitz with true aim.

[restive slate]

DD seems to exist when its most inconvenient for me and for only a split second

I really wanna like it but so far its just as a concept

[plucky flax]

I hope they rework it to a similar mechanics to zealot piety.

The up time would be a lot more consistent and doesn't promote specific kill targetting.

[restive slate]

Or make it so that anyone can see and the buff is given to whoever kills haha

Or better, both psyker and the killer gets it

[ripe crater]

I never liked empowered for assail. Warp charges works better for me. But the only way I can change this build to include True Aim is to remove the final 2 talents from warp charge keystone

Which is probably worth it either way

[strong pilot]

What blessings and perks to run on the trauma staff?

[feral seal]

If I'm gonna play smite/bubble for the team support, should I still be running surge if I'm gonna be going non crit for the time being because of crappy gear?

[winter magnet]

I love my surge/smite/bubble psyker

[hearty spade]

whats not to love in bugged 125% damage

[vital flint]

Speaking of good weapons, what are the anti crowd melee options for psyker rn?

Illisi is the obvious choice

[vital flint]

I feel dirty doing this lol

[hearty spade]

i played it for a while but its so overtuned its not very fun after a while

[lyric mortar]

You weren't a dude called Sappy or something earlier no?

[long coyote]

How useful is smite on a DD Voidstrike build? Or is assail just better here? I feel like it (assail) doesn't really do much for a Voidstrike build :/

[dark radish]

Feel like I am able to clear Auric Maelstrom consistently while playing Psyker but struggle a lot when play Veteran or Ogryn

[lyric mortar]

I like me Kinetic Flayer but sometimes Voidstrike's horde clear is choke point dependent

[feral seal]

What do you play?

[dark radish]

Surge Staff , Smite and Shield

[feral seal]

Do you run crit?

[dark radish]

Yes

[feral seal]

I'm levelling a psyker second now and I was hoping to play the same thing but non crit because no gear

[dark radish]

I take care of lone elite and specialist and just spam smite when there’s a lot of enemy mostly

Learning about shield positioning and timing do get me sometimes though

Not having to aim if the best thing about Surge staff really

[lyric mortar]

Vets and Zealots will love you if you master the shield

[dark radish]

I suck hard at FPS

[long coyote]

Isn't creeping flames like A LOT better for this build than shield? Being able to insta delete hordes is really strong, even on bug surge builds

[feral seal]

What do you run for perks on weapons? crit then flak/maniac?

[dark radish]

Also not having to look for ammo constantly is a plus really

[dark radish]

I haven’t even start modding my weapon yet

Just got a somewhat good surge staff

[feral seal]

If you're crit grab crit perk at least

Nice staff

[dark radish]

I am looking to get a staff with better stat though

But this one is serviceable already

[long coyote]

"serviceable"

[dark radish]

Can consistently deal with Carapace enemy

but feel very useless when boss appears though so I go deal with the mob instead

[dark radish]

I have just get my Psyker to 30 for less than a week

Still need to farm a lot of thing

[long coyote]

My friend, getting a better staff is going to cost likely millions. Those stats are really good and you basically didn't brick on perks and blessings. Yes, they are only t3, but it's a really good staff.

[lyric mortar]

I don't run Surge but it looks good to me

[dark radish]

I got another one with better stat good perk and lv4 blessing but it got like 60% charge speed

Really want to cry

[lyric mortar]

Same thing happened with my Voidstrike

But I got my Transfer Peril and my Warp Nexus

[dark radish]

Would love to use Voidstrike if my aiming is not suck

[lyric mortar]

The projectiles are huge

You just need adjusting a bit maybe

Aim a little above their heads

So the bottom skims their scalp

They'll be popping in no time

[long coyote]

Autocrits for days.

[dark radish]

Should I use joystick instead for Auto aim?

[lyric mortar]

Eeeeeeeh that's a you choice

I'm a 1.8k DPI mouse kinda guy lol

[long coyote]

Ximming in Darktide ayo 👀

[dark radish]

I see some people complain that Joystick auto aim is too strong in Darktide

[lyric mortar]

I think I'd always prefer to be able to react to threats quicker

[dapper folio]

i have no idea how people can play darktide on controller

[dark radish]

so it much help me to be less suck

[long coyote]

Playing Darktide with a stick sounds miserable

[lyric mortar]

I used to play L4D on console. When I played it on PC my brain just exploded at how much easier it got

No special infected was spared the bolt action rifle

[dapper folio]

i play with 800 dpi and I still have eyes on the back of my head pretty sure if I had to use sticks I'd stop playing within an hour

[dark radish]

I think last time I play FPS on console is Black op 2…

[lyric mortar]

800 is probably better for fine aim tbh

But I mostly play Zealot

[dapper folio]

yeah I tend to use low rof weapons

also what I've been using for ages now so I'm used to it

[lyric mortar]

Started the 1.8k with World of Warcraft never looked back

[hearty spade]

finally 😄

feels so good to be able to test all the perks in psychanium

[strong gulch]

Watching now. This is some noice gameplay.

Praise be to loot goblins feet blasters.

[grim zodiac]

IS SCRIERS gaze good? seems like a good dps bump to me

[dapper folio]

I've been using it exclusively leveling my psyker and I'm still figuring it out tbh

you want to use it with weapons that don't generate peril for sure

[grim zodiac]

hmmm

[dapper folio]

still don't think I'd recommend it over the other options

[plucky flax]

I've been trying gazer laspistol meme too. Its kinda meme but kinda strong

A bit ammo intensive tho if no ammo aura vet.

[dapper folio]

I've been using a dueling sword and whatever autogun I can get my hands on

[clear heath]

man i love how the scoreboard history shows win/losses now

the winstreak

[grim zodiac]

fucking assail i keep getting knocked with scriers

[spice veldt]

kill json

[dapper folio]

assail and scryer's don't mesh well imo

[clear heath]

yeah that sounds painful

would blow up too much

[dapper folio]

i get way more value out of bb

[plucky flax]

Based bb user.

My blaze trauma build has bb and sometimes I forgot my blitz exists.

[dapper folio]

I'm pretty sure I got pavlov'd by the sound brain burst makes when it pops a head

that and the specialist/elite death sound

[frosty thorn]

I love using Assail but I wish it was stronger, just a bit too weak against capeesh armor

[spice veldt]

you've activated my trap card https://streamable.com/zjpqc5

[clear heath]

that's cool but i have no idea what actually happened there

[spice veldt]

+crit/weakspot dmg from Disrupt Destiny, +rending% from uncanny strike, and +carapace on my duelling sword leading to 1.7k damage on a crit weakspot assail

[clear heath]

wtf

oh yeah speaking of disrupt destiny, how is it now?

i heard it was buggy last patch?

[spice veldt]

it's still the same 😔

[clear heath]

oh

i heard something about enemies not glowing

[spice veldt]

it's fine on melee maelstrom where there are markable targets abound, but it's more painful outside of that

yeah, they just don't glow for some reason??????

and there's a refresh mechanic where the timer on your stacks refreshes if you damage/stagger your marked target

except this mechanic also doesn't consistently work

so it's like

just got these two bugs that tamper with it

[clear heath]

I would've expected them to fix it by now

i guess psyker having bugs is part of the experience

[spice veldt]

I do get a decent amount of uptime for it, and I think it's good enough for a 3-point investment if you're already taking True Aim

since warp siphon is very point-expensive with my builds

and I don't feel like taking EP for assail spam

[plucky flax]

Tru I wish the same.

[spice veldt]

die

[plucky flax]

Uuuh assail was nerfed. Clearly underpowered now.

[spice veldt]

i hope you get sparta-kicked off of a cliff by a 10 pound goose

[plucky flax]

[grim zodiac]

does this essentialy make assail have 20 shots + no ammo bulshit?

[spice veldt]

p for photoshopped

[dapper folio]

it's only for every charge of ep you have

[grim zodiac]

wot

[spice veldt]

not quite as free in general, but it's very free when there's an elite pack

[clear heath]

depending on how many elites are in the group, you could end up spamming way more than just 20 assails

[plucky flax]

Vet on the team without ammo aura.

[grim zodiac]

but base case its 20? im confused whats warp chage

[spice veldt]

let them cook

[plucky flax]

Normally idc but I am playing laspistol meme.

[clear heath]

where did you get 20 from?

you get the stacks of empowered psionics randomly or on elite kill

[spice veldt]

7.5% chance on kill by default to get an Empowered Charge

[clear heath]

the amount of extra assails you get are pretty much gonna be random

[grim zodiac]

100% cost reduction? currently assail cost 10% peril so it goes to 5% now right? i.e. 20 shots before 100%

[lusty echo]

For psyker Penances. Do i have to use the OG abilities or can i use the upgraded ones?

Brain burst vs Brain Rupture
Psykinetics wrath vs Venting shriek

[clear heath]

no it'll be free

[grim zodiac]

ohhh

[clear heath]

it literally will have no cost when you have a charge of that buff

but it consumes the buff

[ember ruin]

upgraded ones work too.

[lusty echo]

ah that's great. thanks

anyone have a recommended build for working on the psyker penances?

seems like i'd need full left tree. so Brain Rupture, Venting Shriek, and Warp Siphon

[jolly cedar]

What curios u all running?

toughness regen?

[clear heath]

2 toughness 1 hp on main stat.
Perks are 3 toughness, 3 ability recharge, 2 gunner res, 1 sniper res

[jolly cedar]

thanks

thinking about getting block efficiency

since we have talent that makes it so blocking costs peril instead of stamina

[clear heath]

toughness regen isn't bad but i find our talent tree has plenty of toughness gain already

[jolly cedar]

yeah

the guide linked in the pins

is outdated

[clear heath]

I think our blocking is super overkill anyways

[jolly cedar]

telling me that toughness regen is the best perk for curio

[clear heath]

i personally wouldn't bother with block eff

[jolly cedar]

hmm true

i think ill just do Health, Stamina and Gunner res for all my curio perks

not gonna take ability cooldown reduction since im running warp charges on the left side keystone

[clear heath]

I run warp charges too

idk i still find it pretty noticeable

[jolly cedar]

if ur running warp charges wouldnt u never use ur ability

to keep those 6 warp charges

[clear heath]

no i spam it

using the warp charges

[jolly cedar]

???

[clear heath]

for creeping flames

[jolly cedar]

then why are u running warp charges lol

[clear heath]

it does a lot of soulblaze damage

soulblaze is literally a quarter of my damage dealt

and i'm not even running soulblaze weapons

honestly wondering if they'll nerf it

[strong gulch]

If you want to try some blaze trauma and hadron is gatekeeping nexus from you, you can get true aim stacks up then fire off your blazing spirit trauma.

[clear heath]

like look at this warpfire damage dealt

it's more than entire people

from me just screaming at enemies repeatedly

[cosmic sigil]

wait that's warpfire?

[clear heath]

yeah

it always ends up as being 20-30% of my total damage dealt

because i am literally screaming every 15 seconds

[cosmic sigil]

what is your build?

[terse rivet]

As cool as that is I would lose my mind burning warp battery stacks constantly

[clear heath]

This with surge staff

Psykinetic's aura + warp charges refunds a lot of ability cooldown

It does significantly better in high int shocktroop cause more specials/elites = more cooldown reduction

and more fire from perilous combustion

you could probably do literally the same build with voidstrike. I'm just too lazy to aim

[cosmic sigil]

no toughness on warp kill?

[clear heath]

I can live without it

quietude and mettle are enough

mettle's movespeed helps a decent amount in bad situations as well

surge staff basically crits a third of the time anyways

[wind mango]

: )

[jolly cedar]

Is it just me

or is voidstaff absolute trash now

it does no damage

anymore

what a downgrade

[spice veldt]

mostly the same

[vestal fulcrum]

It still is fairly very effective against everything

[jolly cedar]

also surge dosent seem to proc

[vestal fulcrum]

But I just prefer playing trauma

[spice veldt]

i think you're just feeling the placebo particularly hard

[vapid lichen]

how do u get this to show up

[vestal fulcrum]

Also, the amount of people exploiting Surge + EP bug is obscene

[clear heath]

scoreboard mod with ovenproof's scoreboard plugin

[rare storm]

Siblings

[spice veldt]

the news makes its round surprisingly quickly about surge + EP

[rare storm]

will this be bricked

[vestal fulcrum]

Maybe. Give it a try

There's hope for Uncanny yet

[clear heath]

I actually haven't seen many players abuse surge + ep in game

[rare storm]

I mean it's not... terrible...

[clear heath]

surge staff doesn't even feel like that common of a weapon in my games

[spice veldt]

i've met a few on NA west today

and got queued with two of em in one match

with the power of GUN, i killed the targets faster than the surge did its final damage tick sometimes

[clear heath]

I actually haven't tried exploiting it myself

[rare storm]

It's just fun occassionally one shotting bulwarks when a crit happens (+5 stacks of perfect timing that is)

[clear heath]

I haven't seen a surge user outdamage me yet though. Is it actually that OP?

i feel like a lot of the damage would end up as overkill damage

aside from like crushers

[rare storm]

more or less since it's a single target focused damage dealer

[radiant lance]

Bruh why can't Psykers use Shotguns. We should make a petition

[rare storm]

It's not OP per se where it becomes the meta (like unlimited smite) and the best staff in the game

but it's a good enough buff to make it widely likeable

[jolly cedar]

EP?

[plucky flax]

Da funny gazer meme

[vestal fulcrum]

Empowered Psionics, the middle keystone

[summer prairie]

25.4k perilous combustion value

[potent echo]

How do you deal with the ammo

[jolly cedar]

oh

why is that good with voidstaff?

[potent echo]

Laspistol eats through it so fast

[plucky flax]

I don't. I was stealing ammo.

[potent echo]

Nice

[plucky flax]

12 smol ammo pick up.

I felt bad but not that bad when I saw teammates weren't doing much.

So it was justified.

[vestal fulcrum]

It's not about Voidstrike, but Surge staff. There is a bugged interaction between Surge being treated as Smite, thus if you have at least one EP stack, your Surge will deal a lot more damage.

[rare storm]

Surge as in the surge staff not the surge blessing

[potent echo]

They probably gonna spend it all on poxwalkers anyway

[plucky flax]

I need to squash down my scoreboard though. So many wasted lines.

Trying this new addon meme.

[strong gulch]

Played a couple maps with no vet ammo aura was kinda pain because it does dump ammo.

Especially if you have assail to offset the ammo but you need to quell. So you switch to your staff trying to quell fast but wait it's actually a gun and throw your mag directly on the ground.

Play gaze for the new voice lines. 👍

[jolly cedar]

i see

[plucky flax]

Also it's very fast when dd is activated.

[summer prairie]

you need to run knife with it for speed

[plucky flax]

I'm too scared so I still run mk4 duelling. 😦

[spare light]

I guess yeah, still feels like a bitch though, can you even get weakspot strikes with trauma?

[plucky flax]

Knoife is reserved for zealot.

[summer prairie]

scared of push attack spam?

[spare light]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-sad-fridge-no-food-gif-5296071

me when seeing shop refresh was shit

27k plasteel, still no nexus for trauma

[plucky flax]

Just made this. I know uncanny t3 is still good but it hurts my soul to not use t4. 😦

[strong gulch]

vicious mockery for the win

[rare storm]

Does flesh tearer only work on "Crit" hits specifically or does it work on weakspot hits

[near wyvern]

Only on crits

[rare storm]

ahh okay

I guess you run crit chance as your perks then? @near wyvern

[strong gulch]

The LMB can but you can get them quickly with melee.

It's not my favorite way to do things. If you are using trauma to setup your melee it seems pretty alright.

[unkempt quest]

Melk got a shredder with inspiring barrage on it, first time i've ever seen it since launch
Worth grabbing you think ? I doubt it's worth over other damage blessings, but it's so rare

[ionic needle]

Depends on if you have the melk bucks to spend on something you likely won't use or not

[plucky flax]

Bullied.

[unkempt quest]

well melk is also offering power cycler 4 today so consider me broke lmao

[mighty fractal]

I will say

The new primary fire accuracy and speed on the trauma (and surge and void for that matter)

feels so nice

Even if you just use it to pelt random trash mobs at midrange or to ping a gunner’s head for low damage

[strong gulch]

It does surprisingly alright at getting snipers too.

Fast suppression is nice.

[summer prairie]

it's kind of goofy how void secondary doesn't suppress unless it hits

and lmb does

[mighty fractal]

Oh yeah, it does pop snipers well too

It’s just so satisfying

The firing and impact sounds are just

very pleasant

[dapper folio]

I don't feel any remorse running gunpsyker with gaze even without vets people seem to manage ammo just fine

[glossy ember]

how's smite if i don't use EP? Is it decent for non mixed hordes at least or is it just a taser

[spare light]

If you combine it with venting shriek/creeping flames, it's amazing

[glossy ember]

and if i use shield without creeping flames

[spare light]

then it's still a good CC tool

[near wyvern]

Would if I had the perfect blade but I don't. Even then the crit chance should be around 25-28% depending on your talents which is enough to stack bleeds to cap

[spare light]

Pygex, got a quick link to your guide?

[near wyvern]

In pinned messages

[spare light]

@glossy ember https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959 check this out

[dark radish]

Kinda feel like playing Auric maelstrom might actually be easier than lower difficulty due to most player there know what they are doing…

[near wyvern]

Finishing up weapon testing today and updating the meta and weapon guides this week

[dark radish]

Have been having a blast there today so much fun

[dapper folio]

I avoid heresy at all costs

[spare light]

Heresy is a bitch

[dark radish]

Yeah Heresy is very very mix bag

[spare light]

Queue heresy, get 3x level 25's

[dapper folio]

it's not a mixed bag. people have no fucking clue in heresy and I wish I was joking

[spare light]

Queue malice get 3x 150+

[near wyvern]

Heresy is harder than Damnation change my mind

[strong gulch]

You mean T5. 😭

[dapper folio]

every heresy mission I play is a loss because I'm not good enough to count for three people

[strong gulch]

No it's true.

[dark radish]

Did see people show their superb skill in Maelstrom burst my mind

[dapper folio]

damnation is a walk in the park compared to heresy

[glossy ember]

ty

[dark radish]

Like our group got wipe by wave of carapace chain axe + crasher til there’s 1 zealot left and got pushed inside the elevator and the guy just dance around killing everything in that small closed space then managed to free all of us single handedly

[spare light]

People underestimate choke points

The amount of times you get hordes on 2 sides but 1 of your team mates pushes too far into the horde is too many

[dark radish]

We are doing fine until carapace mob spawn from the back and crasher crashed me mid my Smite cycle

[strong gulch]

use choke points please

[dark radish]

we got a very good choke point there

[spare light]

I will gladly stay on stand by for elites and do 0 horde damage if people would use chokepoints

[dark radish]

just not expecting another elite mob to spawn in the back

[royal granite]

alright i gave disrupt destiny an honest shot, this shit sucks

[rare storm]

It's a playstyle preference

Although it is buggy af lol

[rare storm]

Ahh I see

[thin finch]

I saw one dude this morning personnaly

[royal granite]

i mean sometimes it just doesn't give you any targets for a while

and you just have a bunch of wasted skill points

[strong gulch]

If you want to lose your mind chasing the stack man, DD is for you.

[thin finch]

It's the biggest damage boost but boy woe is upon ye.

• the 30 stacks is just an awfull perk

[spare light]

I had like 5..

and they all kept blowing up

[rare storm]

The targets are there, they just aren't highlighted

[spare light]

or dying to hordes

[strong gulch]

If you want enemies to glow in ventilation purge just for you, DD is for you.

otherwise 🙃

[plucky flax]

It depends. For big elites group I prefer big open space to dance around.

For horde I prefer choke/backing myself into the wall.

[strong gulch]

yup

[rare storm]

A known bug that's been around for awhile too, which kinda sucks

[plucky flax]

Or when specials start spawning I don't want to be in a tight choke.

Muties will grab me.

[dapper folio]

I love DD if I'm lucky I can get it to stack for a long while

[dark radish]

I have been having less and less problem with Muties recently might be that I start to familiarize myself with the game

But got throw into the Daemon host by muties once… it’s not fun

[boreal wave]

Feels that way sometimes, yeah.

[dark radish]

[strong gulch]

Special stab them with your duely to stop them but mess it up and get grbbed anyways.

[spare light]

Or they survive on 50HP

[dapper folio]

dueling special staggers muties?

[strong gulch]

Yes.

[dark radish]

The glowing green one?

[dapper folio]

damn.

[near wyvern]

Tac axe special as well

[strong gulch]

Special to the face

[dapper folio]

that's beautiful gonna try it today

[plucky flax]

I don't try that in a real game.

[near wyvern]

But Duelling Sword can do anything tac axe does but just better

[summer prairie]

the combat knife punch needs to stagger them

[plucky flax]

It's too risky.

[dapper folio]

you don't have to exclusively rely on it

[royal granite]

it doesn't help that enemies are highlighted in blue

[strong gulch]

I swear there are only 2 flavors of mutant throws. You either get thrown to safety and question if the mutant is a traitor, or they throw you into a sniper shot, flames, and a burster.

[strong gulch]

valid.

[plucky flax]

Normally I soften up the mutie then heavy 1 in the head to kill it.

Safest way for me.

Works best with assail since that's free.

[strong gulch]

Stop trying to make sense with sensible good brain gameplay.

[plucky flax]

[jolly cedar]

any melee builds

getting bored of these staffs

[rare storm]

Plenty, do you want a d4 or a combat knife build lol

[jolly cedar]

wats a d4

[rare storm]

dueling sword

[jolly cedar]

ooh

i got a good dueling sword

but i need crowd control

[plucky flax]

Illisi good melee too.

[jolly cedar]

need to be able to clear hordes

[plucky flax]

Duelling sword with rampage can horde clear okay.

[strong gulch]

@vagrant frigate Is our resident melee psyker. @spice veldt too.

[rare storm]

perilous+wildfire does it's job on horde clearing

[strong gulch]

Dueling did get a cleave buff. Rampage is easier to maintain.

[spice veldt]

i am no longer a melee psyker as of the skill tree update 😔

assail wormed its way into my mind

[clear heath]

assail messes with your standards on what acceptable horde clear is

[thin finch]

Noooo

[strong gulch]

If you want a lot of movement speed, gaze + dd.

But creeping flames is always a choice.

Assail quick swaps really well. So you could weave that into melee.

[jolly cedar]

oh really

[royal granite]

just tried to do a brain burst build with warp charges again, forgetting that warp charges literally don't work with kinetic resonance

why is our skill tree so fucked

[jolly cedar]

so rampage now works on dueling sowrds?

[plucky flax]

It's not as fucked at vet's tree.

[royal granite]

vet just doesn't have capstones

they have some fantastic nodes

[plucky flax]

When their tree get rework will be back to vet domination era for another year.

[spice veldt]

through the power of GUN

[royal granite]

wdym vet is already about as powerful as they were before patch 13, the only difference is that they have other options than pure dps builds now

also way more guns are viable

[spice veldt]

though the tree is a bit annoying

[thin finch]

I cannot use BR without Empewored Psionic, I just can't

[spice veldt]

the toughness regen talents are scattered, and the bottom 3 paths have two continuous grey nodes

and fatshark evidently agreed, since you can see the updated vet tree in the deep dive announcement

[spare light]

BB/BR with EP cast time should be the base cast time imo, and maybe instant cast with EP

[royal granite]

they're making it less messy, but it's not like it's bad in the current state

[spice veldt]

yeah you can certainly find a good arrangement with the current skill tree

[royal granite]

the builds you can make as a vet are good

[strong gulch]

It did before, but you HAD to do push attacks with the MK 4 to keep rampage up. Now you can just do lights.

[jolly cedar]

fair i think ill run it

[spice veldt]

but if you don't manage to path yourself into those arrangements, then it can be painful

[royal granite]

what i'm complaining about with our skill tree is that we have things that work against each other

[spare light]

No movement reduction on quell node should be more centered

[royal granite]

like warp siphon dumps all your damage in the toilet when you use an ability

disrupt destiny makes you prioritize random targets in a crowd

[spare light]

I wonder if it'd be too OP if it would give less CDR but doesn't consume stacks

[royal granite]

scrier's gaze doesn't play nice with anything psyker related

[royal granite]

consuming stacks for cdr was optional before patch 13

[spare light]

Aaaaa

[royal granite]

warp charges were easier to get as well

[bronze hound]

Is smite better option than surge staff?

[royal granite]

different uses

smite is for crowd control, surge is dps

[bronze hound]

but having both would be a lil bit pointless, right?

[royal granite]

i don't see why

[bronze hound]

I mean, yeah, surge does way more damage but both are also CC

[royal granite]

the primary use of surge now is for the damage

[bronze hound]

Would be a smite/surge staff & bubble shield a solid build then? Not redundant?

[royal granite]

perfectly acceptable

[spare light]

I run smite/surge but with venting shriek/creeping flames, gives me good horde CC, horde clear, elite CC, and elite killing power

[bronze hound]

Never tried smite, no idea if it is worth over the other two in case you have to deal with rogue snipers or something far away

[spare light]

the ONLY downside is if something is far far away

[bronze hound]

exactly

I guess the Illisi can fill the horde clear spot

[spare light]

I also run illisi cause it's just my prefered melee weapon

[bronze hound]

Would be more balanced if I drop the smite and take brain rupture

[spare light]

I wouldn't underestimate smite

[strong gulch]

Surge staff is capable of taking out long range targets like snipers. It's not the easiest way, but it can be done.

Did a map in with me on surge and no BB yet I was the one getting the snipers with surge staff LMB.

[spare light]

Sure, it doesn't do insane damage

but the CC is just incomparable

6 crusher patrol? No problem

[royal granite]

running smite with a revolver is also fun

[spare light]

20 dogs on your ass? no problem

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/its-not-a-problem-anymore-cristine-raquel-rotenberg-simply-nailogical-nailogical-its-easy-to-solve-gif-21873930

[royal granite]

my only problem with smite is that it's almost useless in games with nurgle's blessing

since units with that are immune to the cc

[bronze hound]

Hmmm

[spare light]

which is kinda dumb tbf

[royal granite]

you'll always have a couple things just walk up and hit you

which breaks your smite channel

[strong gulch]

me with purg

[plucky flax]

Voidstrike smite psyker yesterday sacrificed his damage to let me boost my ego.

A real hero.

[onyx sentinel]

I don't feel like rolling for a better one.. How can I salvage this?

[royal granite]

hold x

[bronze hound]

What about something like this? with Surge staff and illisi

[coarse bane]

Precog is good

[bleak tulip]

eat precog for the future

wouldn't necessarily run it on Deimos rn but who knows

[royal granite]

i'd ditch mind in motion for kinetic deflection

[coarse bane]

I haven't done much to my 380 Deimos, but it can one shot mutants with a warp charged attack.

[plucky flax]

No combustion

[bleak tulip]

the sooner you get used to not having MiM the better tbh

[onyx sentinel]

what does successful dodge even mean, does dodging a mutie count? dogs?

[coarse bane]

Yes

[onyx sentinel]

if it does it might help reach L1H1 breakpoints

idk

[royal granite]

it's honestly pretty unnecessary with how fast you quell with solidity

[thin finch]

While I understand I still think it should not be that low for base since it is still an ability with infinite ammo ,range and quite an amount of damage.
It should not be an alternative for weapon.
Now tho scraping one less second ,I would not complain

[thin finch]

My above message answer to this with delay

[bronze hound]

MiM grants mobility, I don't know, not necessary, sure

[onyx sentinel]

think I'll run with this til I get more crafting mats

[coarse bane]

Take the 5% damage, and the soul fire on kills. 7.5% toughness on warp kill will give you a lot of tankiness as well. Ret is fine.

[bronze hound]

Kinetic deflection is worth? Not sure I like it

[near wyvern]

Believe it or not, MG Ia is the optimal infantry lasgun from that famliy now

[bleak tulip]

as people said, get rid of MiM, get perilous combustion and dump one of the two middle toughness talents for kinetic deflection

[bleak tulip]

makes you the best picker upper

and allows you to actually block with FS and DS

[royal granite]

it's amazing, the peril cost is based on your total stamina so if you grab a +3 stam trinket you can block an incredible amount of punishment

[bleak tulip]

because their stam is shit

[onyx sentinel]

you should get used to quelling while sprint/dodge sliding

[bronze hound]

MiM is actually not in my main build rn, but I thought It might be useful

[coarse bane]

If you're team is even remotely competent, you should be fine with time to quell.

[bleak tulip]

also don't forget passive quell exists, you wouldn't believe the amount of people quelling in downtime like they're compulsively reloading a gun

[royal granite]

passive quell is kinda dogwater tbf

[bleak tulip]

it's not bad, it's just not necessary at all

[royal granite]

every time i try to rely on it it bites me in the ass

[plucky flax]

Challenge level: impossible.

[bleak tulip]

yeah but if you got downtime you don't have to sit there quelling manually, it's still plenty fast to get you low while opening chests

[royal granite]

better safe than sorry imo

[bleak tulip]

when in doubt run shriek and always have the nice warm blanket

for maximum brain off gameplay

[rare storm]

First time seeing somebody run the zealot one shot build

Glad to know the nerf didn't affect it at all lol

[bronze hound]

Ok, so in order to get deflection I have to dump quietude or warp expenditure

[bleak tulip]

pick one, I don't run either on auric either

you don't need either when you have soulstealer imo

[somber dew]

What are the differences between the force swords?

[bleak tulip]

no idea which ones better numbers wise since they're just for comfy

[bleak tulip]

illisi is for hordes Deimos is for elites and shit

the other one doesn't exist

[royal granite]

on the build you linked earlier?

[bronze hound]

Yeah

[royal granite]

why?

[coarse bane]

It is best practice to be self sufficient, but for the most part quelling and moving should never be an issue.

[royal granite]

if you ditch mind in motion you get 2 points

[bleak tulip]

perilous is more important

[somber dew]

Do they have different movesets or just different stat blocks?

[royal granite]

oh perilous

[bleak tulip]

movesets

[bronze hound]

I took perilous too, yeah

[royal granite]

idk i don't think that's worth it with 3 stacks

[somber dew]

Ah gotcha, thanks

[thin finch]

I think it was mostly tnfor the assasination target

[rare storm]

Ahh I see

No wonder he didn't one shot that lol

[royal granite]

combustion is only worth it if you're running some other source of soulblaze imo

[coarse bane]

Only time 3 stack is gonna be useful is if you have a massive horde that will take 2 or more smite durations for your team to finish off. Though you could swap one of those talents for the 100% stack from special/elite kill.

[royal granite]

you could also ditch psychic leeching btw

the benefit of it is very minor

[cinder moon]

run surge/smite with elite ep stack skill and you basically are always empowered

[somber dew]

So Shriek and Elite/ Special kills then or

[coarse bane]

Well, it's good for your teammates.

[bleak tulip]

it is

free damage

all the time

[royal granite]

that or just straight up purgatus, yeah

[rare storm]

not really, it's good to have alone

It's 3 flat stacks per special/elite kill

[bleak tulip]

its additive too

[somber dew]

Oh is the purgatus staff considered soulburn?

[bleak tulip]

none of that wildfire bullshit

[somber dew]

That's awesome

[rare storm]

If you're running damnation and above, you'll easily stack over 10 stacks almost instantly

it's a solid wave clear

[coarse bane]

Dome is my favorite, really allows you safer breaching options. Like going into a big open area with lots of gunners/snipers.

[bleak tulip]

also with shriek you get more fire

[royal granite]

the 3 flat stacks are mostly going on chaff, which are going to get overkilled by your teammates anyway, so it's free damage but it's also mostly wasted damage

the impact is very minor

[onyx sentinel]

I see some people talking about a keystone-less build for a blazing trauma build, I don't see how this isn't better considering how underwhelming BB is without EP or kinetic resonance.

Am I just overvaluing EP

[bleak tulip]

idk the amount of elite hordes you get get wittled down a bit

[thin finch]

Surge don't consume your EP stack while reaping the benefit anyway

[royal granite]

EP is fine, ditch psychic leeching though

[rare storm]

You can hold off an entire horde side on your own, and you can help break hordes from far while your team deals with the immediate horde

it's worth either way alone or with other soulblaze sources

[summer prairie]

BB is okay with just kinetic resonance. EP doesn't make it much faster, certainly not worth spending so many extra nodes for it

[bleak tulip]

I note again that I once got a 96 kill streak from shouting at a downed veteran with shriek, soulblaze is good, and perilous adds to it

[onyx sentinel]

wtf I just realized how dogshit that node is

[royal granite]

lmao

it's better on assail

[wooden flare]

This is what I run

I do a melee Psyker build

[rare storm]

It's only* op on assail

otherwise yes

lol

[royal granite]

assail is the only blitz that spends EP fast enough to make use of leeching

[onyx sentinel]

kinetic flayer over resonance?

feels like KF keeps proccing on the wrong target with a trauma build idk

[bleak tulip]

probably a blitzless build?

so at least the blitz does something passively

[somber dew]

No blitzes?

[royal granite]

i don't think kinetic flayer is very good, you have no control over when it triggers so most of the time it's just going to overkill chaff

[wooden flare]

I do that because swapping between blitz and melee is too clunky more often than not

That way I still make use of it and I use my actual BB for priority targets like elites or gunner that are too far in the back

[summer prairie]

kinetic flayer should proc psychic leeching

[royal granite]

it was better when killing chaff with BB got you a warp charge

[summer prairie]

but then it would use a stack so eh

[wooden flare]

Considering I took this into damnation with trash weapons and did good I think I’m onto something

[bleak tulip]

does kinetic eat EP stacks? lmao

thats wack

[wooden flare]

No

[bleak tulip]

okay

[wooden flare]

Tho I kinda wished it did

[bleak tulip]

that woulda been wild

[opal pebble]

What orange thing pairs best with assail and melee? Been using scrier’s something for the longest time but only use it maybe once a mission, wanna be doing more dot

[wooden flare]

My only pain right now is I’m not getting any wound Curiis

[royal granite]

orange thing?

[wooden flare]

I have stamina, health and toughness ones

[royal granite]

you mean ability?

[wooden flare]

Skill

[opal pebble]

F button

Combat abilty I think

[bleak tulip]

shriek is goated and the bubble is comfy

[royal granite]

shield or shriek

[wooden flare]

Shriek is fucking amazing

[hot prairie]

me running 4 toughness curios for a total of 174 toughness

[wooden flare]

only?

[onyx sentinel]

too lazy to launch the game again, do the stacks drop off one by one?

[wooden flare]

My Vet has an effective Toughness pool of 1429

[rare storm]

Nope they drop off as a stack

[hot prairie]

i mean, that's not counting my abusrd toughness regen

[royal granite]

perfect timing is secretly amazing on purgatus lol

[opal pebble]

Which shield is better for maulers and melee dudes?

[hot prairie]

so long as my bubble is up, im literally invincible on heresy. only cause my gear isn't ready for damnaton

[wooden flare]

Does Purgatus fire count as soublaze?

[bleak tulip]

directional because at least it staggers em I guess

[summer prairie]

mettle is also amazing with purg

[opal pebble]

Aight

[rare storm]

Yes

[onyx sentinel]

it just seems like perfect timing is free 15% during hordes on anything with a decent crit chance

[wooden flare]

Noice

[royal granite]

it does for the purpose of getting warp charges from it

[wooden flare]

Also I think I play pretty damn ballsy as Psyker

I willingly get myself to 100% peril right away then start swinging

[royal granite]

unless you mean the DoT, in which case yeah that's just straight up soulblaze

[coarse bane]

Ya know, as much as I love my zealot, I think I'm a psyker main now. I've been playing it with more passion than eviscerator psycho.

[wooden flare]

Like does it apply soulblaze stacks when you hit people with it

[royal granite]

i wouldn't worry too much about gear, succeeding at damnation is more down to player skill than gear, and actually playing damnation is the best way to practice for damnation

[royal granite]

yes

[wooden flare]

Noice

[royal granite]

and when you crit you apply double stacks

[wooden flare]

Also this wasn’t damnation but still a testament to player skill

I survived on my own in a horde backed into a corner as Psyker

With less than 1 wound left before I died and I had a Crusher look my way

I fought back maybe 30 trash horde units? And kept pushing the Crusher back whenever he tried doing his overhead in me

[hot prairie]

idk, i don't have any gear about blue. and none of it has been optimized in the slightest. my staff is still 330

[coarse bane]

There, now I have my in game Psyker name.

[royal granite]

ah fair enough

[wooden flare]

So? I’ve been using profane weapons

[royal granite]

my psyker is named sherie, wonder if i've played with any of y'all

[coarse bane]

Until lvl 30, just use whatever.

[wooden flare]

Mine’s named Samedi

Cause I’m boring like that

[rare storm]

Mike-Wazowski

lol

the one eyed pysker demon

[wooden flare]

I played with an Oggy yesterday named John Fetterman

[hot prairie]

i am 30, but my goofy ahh wants to buy transcendent cosmetics from the vendor before actually giving my gear any attention

[coarse bane]

My character sounds French so a French name was needed. Lol

[royal granite]

damnation is more money

aurics better still

the only reason i don't have more than a million dockets is because i keep spending it on cosmetics

[fresh reef]

Being named Hahnda-Sivik still gets a laugh out of someone every now and then

[wooden flare]

[royal granite]

good name

[hot prairie]

i think i've probably collected about 650k dockets and 550k have been spent on cosmetics

cause im silly like that

[fresh reef]

In nearly 900 hours I got my first 550 yesterday

Feels good.. I think?

[coarse bane]

Better than dropping 80$ for shop cosmetics.

[royal granite]

wh

900?

hours?

[opal pebble]

Mines named Egidius after a patron saint oof outcasts and mentally ill

[royal granite]

i barely have 300 and i regularly rake in too much to spend

[hot prairie]

not that crazy, i have 2000 hours in 2 of the dark sous games :3

[fresh reef]

No no, 550 rated weapon

380 with all T4 upgrades

[royal granite]

yeah i mean, i'm not boggling too much at the total playtime, just

oh weapon rating

ok

[fresh reef]

I think I'm sitting on about a million dockets rn, though I'm probably gonna drop half of that on buying the last commissary cosmetic I need

[hot prairie]

so just out of curiosity, it's bruttus' shop where you have to farm weapon ratings, right?

[fresh reef]

Brunt's, but yeah

[hot prairie]

same difference

[royal granite]

i don't pay too much attention to weapon rating, idk what my highest is

[fresh reef]

Ogryns deserve to be called the right name

[hot prairie]

i just want a 550 voidstaff and ill be happy happy

[fresh reef]

Especially the one who gives us ample piles of garbage

[royal granite]

isn't brunt a servitor

[hot prairie]

dodgeball staff, my beloved

[fresh reef]

Brunt is an Ogryn, he just let's the servitors do the whole transactional side of things

[royal granite]

oh ok

[fresh reef]

You can see him in the armory cinematic

[potent echo]

is there a way to rewatch cinematics

[hot prairie]

start a new character

[potent echo]

other than that

[hot prairie]

scrounge youtube

[fresh reef]

Make a new character or just look em up on youtube. They're prerendered so the experience won't be any different

[bleak tulip]

and his trusty sidekick Vee Teck

[potent echo]

understandable

[hot prairie]

ask someone o play the game ffor you and to record all the cutscenes

[bleak tulip]

just check yt tbh

im sure theyre there

[hot prairie]

ah, i see a fellow dodgeball staff enjoyer

[jolly cedar]

Now that rampage is good on dueling swords. What do u think I should change for this weapon?

[fresh reef]

@potent echo https://youtu.be/EDNpahdp5fA?si=aox3AycYyc4QWYyq

Behold, a whole 20 seconds of vigorous scrounging

[thin finch]

I do wonder how usefull they are for the average player

[hot prairie]

mfw the level 30 cutscene tries to subvert our expectations

should've done a silly

50/50 chance of having to start a new character

[fresh reef]

Tbf, it makes more sense with her being the commissary vendor

[coarse bane]

If that's what subverts your expectations, than you need to get out more or maybe touch some grass.

[fresh reef]

Instead of her just being a big nothing character whose entire purpose is to turn traitor

[coarse bane]

Maybe if we had any meaningful encounters with her, it might make more sense.

[hot prairie]

i said "tried" as in the trick was up as soon as he said "one of you"

[hot prairie]

oh so that's why she got tech-priest'd

i knew something was weird about her after i hit 30

didn't pay enough attention pre 30 to actually put my finger on it though lol

[royal granite]

wouldn't that cutscene surprising you mean you touch too much grass? not enough media savvy?

[hot prairie]

actually accurate tho

[coarse bane]

Maybe, or you've just locked yourself into an echo chamber for so long you've turned into a total consumer.

[royal granite]

i don't think that's how that works

[hot prairie]

someone sounds a bit spiteful

[coarse bane]

You know, get excited about new thing, consume it than get excited about the next thing.

[hot prairie]

that's literally the human condition. caveman see food. get excited, eat food. find more food, get excited, eat more food.

fun/good new things bring us dopamine, so we naturally seek new fun/good things

[coarse bane]

Cavemen didn't just blindly consume everything that flashed shiny and new.

[hot prairie]

implying that's what the average person does today

pretty sorry view on the average human if that's what you think the standard is

[coarse bane]

Have you seen the shit Hollywood has been crapping out lately?

[bleak tulip]

no

[hot prairie]

and they're getting less and less attention for it

other than people crapping all over it

[coarse bane]

And yet I still have people tell how much they love every Disney Star Wars thing out there. >.<

[fresh reef]

Negative press or not, they don't care as long as their glitter covered turd makes a profit

[hot prairie]

the only people who actually give positive takes on 90% of what hollywood produces are people who are paid to say good things

[vapid lichen]

apparently the curio section in the pinned guide is bad, so what curio setup do u guys use?

[rare storm]

Brunts selling a good trauma staff!? The emperor has blessed siblings, pray it does not brick

[coarse bane]

Yeah, fair enough. Soon they'll be replaced by AI. Lol

[fresh reef]

Bad by who's standards?

[coarse bane]

Good luck, hopefully the tech priest gives you good perks and blessings.

[bleak tulip]

bad because I disagree with one of the least important parts of a build

[hot prairie]

the average consumer is pretty sceptical of new media these days though. i mean it's gotten to a point where i won't purchase a game until i've played it for a few hours and determined that it's worth my money. and even then, not until it's on sale because gatdamn, video games are expensive today

[vapid lichen]

iunno i was just looking at the comments and they were saying it was bad

[rare storm]

Ah shit... it's neither here nor there

[vapid lichen]

i got no clue what im doing anyways

[rare storm]

I guess I'll just replace the perks and make it my support rending staff

[hot prairie]

looks like 550 potential right there

[rare storm]

nah 545 at most I think

[pine shore]

Which perks do you need for trauma?

[rare storm]

Maniac / infested

For me

[pine shore]

no crit chance?

[coarse bane]

Really only need to swap the Stam perk.

[rare storm]

Only if you want to run blaze spirit

[bleak tulip]

2 toughness 1 health, health and toughness perks on all of them and CDR because I dont turn my brain on and gotta mash F to not die sometimes

[rare storm]

Trauma only does weakspot dmg with m1

[fresh reef]

That is one helluva brick

[rare storm]

it truly is, sibling, it truly is

[pine shore]

So I'll try to look for maniac/crit chance

Seems best

[rare storm]

it depends on your blessings

crit chance is only good if you run blaze spirit

[bleak tulip]

perks are stinky but its not entirely bad

[rare storm]

otherwise wave clear priority would be better

[pine shore]

Isn't there like only 1 choice of blessings?

[bleak tulip]

2 choices total

perks or blessings

[pine shore]

Why would you not run Rending + Flurry

[rare storm]

er nope, you can run rending shockwave to debuf everything, and blaze spirit for wave clear so 2 blessing paths

[vapid lichen]

pog thank

[rare storm]

it's.. FINE

[pine shore]

If I want wave clear I'd take some other staff but ok

[rare storm]

I can replace my old one I guess

[pine shore]

Which perks would you choose for rending then?

[rare storm]

I mean, it's a playstyle choice, you have more options, rather than ONLY sticking to one specific staff

[bleak tulip]

meh

I wouldnt say its better tbh?

though I am not a trauma head, no idea how much like 16 radius does

[rare storm]

more like, I can direct my old staff towards the blaze spirit path lol

[royal granite]

i run 2 wounds and 4 stam on my trinkets

[rare storm]

and have my new one be the rending beast

[thin finch]

Man underestimate the brain rot of the average worker about his game and bread

[thin finch]

You probably won't buy shit from her because gun will come before style

[royal granite]

i bought a bunch of shit from her

[thin finch]

Before or after lvl 30 ?

[royal granite]

i don't remember

mind she wasn't a shop when i was leveling

[thin finch]

Necause I did buy stuff after lvl 30 when I start doing auric and be like "yeah 300k is affordable"

But before that I'm not sure the average willy is okay to spend 50k on a color swap

[hot prairie]

i spent 95% of my income so far on her

[coarse bane]

You can farm ordos pretty damn fast. It's only Plassteel being the bottle neck.

[hot prairie]

before 30

and i plan to spend another 310k on her before even thinking about getting a stacked weapon

[thin finch]

I believe you are not the average Willy if you consider sruff before buying

[hot prairie]

what

[thin finch]

You are not the average Willy

[hot prairie]

zoinks

i just like looking fly

[agile sedge]

does warp resistance on a staff apply to blitz?

[thin finch]

Understandable ,but tbh the skin beofee the one costing an arm are just color swap of penance 😦

[hot prairie]

i don't think so? I'm pretty sure it only applies if the weapon is held

[viscid matrix]

all of the armour skins are just color swaps of penance rewards

[agile sedge]

oh ok thank you

[thin finch]

Afaik I don't think it does

[agile sedge]

much apricated

[hot prairie]

i mean the're all the color swaps of 3 different styles. but i just really like the design on the pain witch's duty

not the hood though im just wearing the redeemed face mask

cause i like it

and by gosh, i worked hard on that prioritize targets penance waytoo hard

Three days for a basic penance

[thin finch]

My current skin with the torso coming from the Servitor shop, the mask cost aquila and the boot are penance

[royal granite]

i don't like the monstronum chestpiece

[hot prairie]

funi neck brace

[royal granite]

too bulky

[coarse bane]

I splurged and picked up some of the Aquila stuff.

[hot prairie]

my fashion is just goann be witch's duty with the simple face mask

still need 310k for the silly legs tho

[royal granite]

it makes you look like you skipped leg day, there's no equivalent level of armour for the legs on psyker

[hot prairie]

also, peepee flap

[wooden flare]

The T3 cosmetic of the Class penances for Psyker is what I’m aiming for to get that Grey Knight feel

[glossy hazel]

Should I pick this up? Perks are kinda poopoo but IV Warp Nexus is nice

[coarse bane]

I got the fancy red and gold coat, as well as the matching head cover to go with it.

[royal granite]

i need to stop running experimental builds so i can just regain some fuckin plasteel

[coarse bane]

Though I did have to grab the musketeers hat, cause well, it looks cool.

[royal granite]

i have spent it all on stupid ideas

[coarse bane]

That's how Gatcha games work. Lol.

[hot prairie]

dodgeball staff

[royal granite]

no i don't have surge

the blessing i mean

[hot prairie]

but dodgeball staff

is best staff

https://tenor.com/view/dodgewrench-dodgeball-gif-22028517

[royal granite]

rather use a revolver than voidstrike in the current state of the game

at least without surge

[hot prairie]

idk, it shreds carapace

[coarse bane]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sheev-palpatine-unlimited-power-power-force-gif-5073064

[hot prairie]

i can two shot crushers with a mid staff

[coarse bane]

Surge is life.

[royal granite]

the blessing, not the staff

voidstrike has a blessing named surge

for some reason

makes it double hit on crit

[coarse bane]

I enjoy surge staff.

[glossy hazel]

Hmm, what perk should I change? I know groaner damage is useless on surge

[hot prairie]

also i love sniping snipers with dodgeballs

[pale raven]

What's considered an elite enemy? I can't find a single straight answer online. It's like no one is sure

[coarse bane]

Nothing like getting a stack of EP and two shot Bulwarks.

[royal granite]

the special/elite distinction fucking sucks, i'm never sure

[coarse bane]

Elites are things like Bulwark, Reapers, Crushers.

[hot prairie]

any enemy that gets hghlighted red and has a dreg/scab prefix is either specialist or elite. dunno which one it is, but it's one of them

[coarse bane]

At least that's what I found from testing in the training room.