psyker-class

[cosmic nova]

should i swap blessings/perks

[ornate hamlet]

Plasma has always been goated, mesays

Sustained fire to surge or nexus and weakspot to uhhhh idfk actually

[obtuse walrus]

Base rolls are decent, I'd change weak spot damage to 25% against flak and the top perk to something of your choice

But overall is decent

[spare light]

crit chance or flak I'd say

[ornate hamlet]

Actually wait, surge would be without nexus in this case

[spare light]

Yea

[ornate hamlet]

Depends on true aim being selected or not

[brave fiber]

what would yall take on voidstrike with surge as a second blessing?

[obtuse walrus]

Like personally I'd like surge, but the one that drains peril or increases crit chance based on peril are also solid

[ornate hamlet]

True aim guarantees a funny crit

[spare light]

with Surge, Nexus becomes too important imo

[ornate hamlet]

With surge, 100% nexus

[obtuse walrus]

Is nexus the one that increases crit chance?

I forgor

[spare light]

Yea

[obtuse walrus]

[primal plume]

Trauma hereby takes the new place of worst staff in the game

[ornate hamlet]

With surge on its own I'd play a lot more on melee and use true aim from the right tree

[primal plume]

actually terrible

[spare light]

pray tell, why?

[ornate hamlet]

Black 2B enjoyer

[primal plume]

Takes forever to charge, sluggish as hell
When fully charged it cant even one shot bombers
When casted into a horde kills maybe 2 enemies and sends the rest of them flying outwards which makes your job harder
If you do minicasts it doesnt kill shit

doesnt even kill things in the blue circle

[obtuse walrus]

But in general, quell speed is dump stat since quell speed is usually pretty fast already

With perks

[primal plume]

it banks too hard on the "epicenter" to for it to actually be useful

[obtuse walrus]

[primal plume]

which just means youre sending shit flying more often than not

its only good in really narrow choke points but at that point so is literally everything else

[rare storm]

Can't tell if satire or not

[spare light]

Idk what you're doing but everything in the circle dies for me, horde chaff I mean ofc

[primal plume]

Purgatus is better because it actually does its job

[obtuse walrus]

All weapons good, if you enjoy using them

[cosmic nova]

ay thanks

[obtuse walrus]

[primal plume]

Idk, when a staff asks me to take a long time to charge for a big explosion and it doesnt kill everything in the circle im inclined to think it might not be that good

[steel flame]

What level are you

[primal plume]

with purge i can least be assured everything in my fire stream will die

[primal plume]

lvl 500+ using astaff with 79% damage and 79% charge. I know how to play this game

[warped kernel]

Trauma can be quite good in the right contexts. the brittleness blessing is good for team games, and it can be quite powerful in a crit build

i should say brittleness is good to support the team

[steel flame]

I'm only asking because trauma stats scale super harshly

[spice veldt]

i only bring rending shockwave to melee maelstrom

[obtuse walrus]

Damn, I thought the level cap was 30!! 1!

[worn iron]

me and the boys at 2am looking for beans

[warped kernel]

yeah i prefer going full crit build when i do use trauma

[ornate hamlet]

69

[warped kernel]

also so useful for knocking elites over and what not

[obtuse walrus]

I found some

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-christopher-nolan-bruce-wayne-batman-where-are-they-gif-5103771

[warped kernel]

but i do feel voidstrike is so strong i just want to use it all the time.

and it also does a good job of staggering and what not

[worn iron]

voidstrike gives you range tho and its a good compliment to assail

[warped kernel]

i agree

[worn iron]

i use all force weapons, which helps to conserve ammo for the team

[ornate hamlet]

I do agree that trauma is clunky af tho

[obtuse walrus]

I like the crowd control and stagger of void, and single target fuck you of brain burst

[ornate hamlet]

I can't comment on the rest because I'm a gun snowflake

[worn iron]

i just dont have any good blessing for staffs right now

i havent found any tier 4

[grim zodiac]

purgatus applies soulblaze?

[obtuse walrus]

Brunt is eating my ordo dockets, I'm just waiting to find a good staff for hadron not to fuck me over with... So I can go full warp nexus surge

[worn iron]

i still dont know what to swap out

i just randomly rolled a 376

[ornate hamlet]

Yes

[steel flame]

There are a couple builds that really make trauma shine, flurry and trauma makes mincemeat of the everything while also cc'ing everything. Then fire trauma (blazing spirit/nexus) bypasses charge time with short charge spam for optimal fire spread and long charges when something needs to die

[grim zodiac]

what website do i go to for wiki darktide, this feels lacking https://warhammer-40k-darktide.fandom.com/wiki/Rifthaven_Mk_II_Purgatus_Force_Staff

[vestal fulcrum]

fandom

Genuine best wiki: Psykhanium

[brazen warren]

mmm, beans

[vestal fulcrum]

Second best wiki, at least for Psykers, probably Athaneum guide on Steam

[steel flame]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?l=german&id=2917274959

There ya go

[grim zodiac]

ty mamas

[spare light]

I need level my vet but fucking hell that shit boring

[wide galleon]

is fire sword a thing now? that guide says it isn’t due to warpfire bugs. Was that fixed recently?

[vestal fulcrum]

Define "fire sword". Would that be like the Illisi force sword with Blazing Spirit blessing?

[wide galleon]

yes

[vestal fulcrum]

It never was a truly competetive option I'd wager

and it's not due to "warpfire bugs"

But rather

[wide galleon]

for sure just repeating what the guide states

[vestal fulcrum]

the fact that it kills targets it could apply soulblaze to way too efficiently

[grim zodiac]

does the gun seller only sell stuf up to blue tier?

[long wharf]

at one point, early in Darktide's life, Fire Sword was possible

before Fatshark changed Bloodthirsty

[vestal fulcrum]

The armoury? Yes.

[grim zodiac]

so u buy blue, then go purple->gold through upgrades?

[vestal fulcrum]

It's not the only route you can craft an item, but it's possible, if the blue item has a good perk and at least a passable blessing (which will still be a subject to a reroll, but nevertheless)

[long wharf]

the easiest way to get blessings you want is to craft the weapon yourself

[vestal fulcrum]

Sometimes crafting a good item begins at its white tier, i.e., when it has no properties bar just modifiers

[grim zodiac]

hmmm learning curve yum

[long wharf]

fear not, the curve is pretty shallow

[ornate hamlet]

It's worth checking the shop for good base stats and trying your luck on them

[long wharf]

Darktide is a not a game of deep complexities

[valid talon]

Welcome to Brunt and Hadrons fuck you casino, heres how to play

[long wharf]

the Fuckasino

[upper solar]

Is anyone else running into a glitch with Disrupt Destiny where the buff is lasting 1.5 seconds instead of 15?

I can't use my gunpsyker build becasue I can see the stack appear after a kill and then INSTANTLY go away

[warped fable]

new here but i dnt know any one was using disrupt destiny

[ornate hamlet]

Real

Haven't seen it tho, sorry

[warped fable]

any one know if the "Malleus Monstronum" Penance is still achievable

[wind wadi]

Yup got it last week

[warped fable]

if i had to venture a guess i would say the best way is with a shield ogrin?

[wind wadi]

It actually might be easier with bots solo because bots can do dmg and it won't affect the threshold of dmg you have to deal

[upper solar]

Its happening every run

[restive slate]

Same, not sure if its a visual bug or actual bug

[warped fable]

is that so?

[restive slate]

I wanna like Disrupt Destiny but the inconsistencies are annoying

[restive slate]

I did it with a friend so he can hold the horde while i focus the boss

[warped fable]

thx... i just need to find friends that also like this game 😛

[ornate hamlet]

I think I might be stupid, but doesn't DD mention a 25 feet distance?

[nova heart]

Can anybody help me grind high level missions?

im lvl 6 and trying to lvl up fast

[upper solar]

Yes, that's for marking enemies

But I see a marked enemy

[wind wadi]

What server are you on?

[ornate hamlet]

I'm not versed in stone age measurements, but

[upper solar]

Kill a marked enemy, then get the stac, and it goes away in 1.5 seconds

[ornate hamlet]

I'm pretty sure most marks I got were way past 25 feet

[upper solar]

The duration of the ability is being cut in 1/10th

[warped fable]

US-E

[ornate hamlet]

Best place to be in

[wind wadi]

Ah nvm haha. I was keen to help but the ping would end me

[grim zodiac]

l or r

[cosmic sigil]

Uncanny strike on a illisi has its place now or is still meh?

[spare light]

Ah man, I was finishing my melk weekly and then I realised, it resets at 1, not 2, ahhh

[cosmic sigil]

You're leveling just gest what you need

[grim zodiac]

ok

[vestal fulcrum]

It definitely is a thing that you might want

[cosmic sigil]

Don't start playing the casino before getting lvl30

[vestal fulcrum]

Not that it hits any important breakpoints, but it's just freely accessible damage, basically

One that is not tied to Peril like Unstable Power, either

[grim zodiac]

im confused, the higher me Mk, e.g. Mk II, the better? or is it just naming

[vestal fulcrum]

Mark effectively is a weapon variant

There's usually 3 per weapon type, but there are some odd ducks that only have 2 variants (like Thunder hammers for Zealots) or 1 variation (like the revolver)

[grim zodiac]

hmmm

wait

so

[spare light]

What perks are y'all running on voids nowadays? I can barely one shot gunners/shotgunners atm with mine

[grim zodiac]

the first prefix, such as catachan, indicates the moveset? then the 3rd prefix (after Mk) is what the special would be?

[vestal fulcrum]

Surge/Nexus and Crit Chance/Carapace

[vestal fulcrum]

Not really, the mark usually goes together with the prefix

[spare light]

Yea same, even on 6 warp charges stacks, non crit I deal 880 or something damage to a damnation gunner

[vestal fulcrum]

Catachan has 3 variations, being 1, 4, 7

[grim zodiac]

and those vary in what terms?

[vestal fulcrum]

They all differ in movesets

[grim zodiac]

ok so an illisi vs an deimos?

[grim zodiac]

ah wait this

[vestal fulcrum]

1 has primarily horizontal swings, 4 has horizontal swings on its light attacks, but its heavy moveset starts with an overhead and then a horizontal swing.

7 has its heavy moveset start with a horizontal swing, then overhead, while its light attacks are mostly diagonal strikes at 45 degrees, followed-up by a singular strikedown accross your crosshair

[steel flame]

Obscurus, diemos, and illi are all force swords and share the same blessing pool

[grim zodiac]

ok which ytbers should iwatch for informative content like build, tips etc|?

[cosmic sigil]

ryken ivx

sorry xiv

real asian robot is fine too but hmmm sometimes he kinda be abrasive

[vestal fulcrum]

I personally mostly watch Reginald and Cashcrop, sometimes Telopots, but it's a preference thing more than anything else.

[cosmic sigil]

you can check Reginald, Cashcrop too

Yeah Teolopots is fucking good at playing and has some nice vidéos on some weapons

[echo turtle]

Great reddit thread today "stam is mandatory for a psyker" 😂😂😂😂

[spice veldt]

not on that kinetic deflection grindset 😔

[vestal fulcrum]

Mandatory - no. Extremely useful - yes?

[cosmic sigil]

Gurhm's Garage is fine too

[echo turtle]

They think it is mandatory to pair with kinetic

[vestal fulcrum]

Sort of? I like stam on Psyker.

[lyric burrow]

id def use it without KD

[echo turtle]

For the block efficiency!!!!

[spice veldt]

what in the world

:(

[echo turtle]

Ikr

[spice veldt]

how often are these people blocking

[lyric burrow]

with KD its very overkill

[echo turtle]

The OP is so arrogant about it too

[echo turtle]

You need the stam with KD to pick up team mates tho

[cosmic sigil]

i prefer stam regen and dance better

[spice veldt]

the game should have more guardbreak moves

[lyric burrow]

blocking hordes instead hitting them challenge

[echo turtle]

Otherwise your guard will break 😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[cosmic sigil]

i think i still use stam curio on the vet

[lyric burrow]

i use stam on vet and zealot

and stam regen as well on vet

[cosmic sigil]

yeah vet is 24 or 36 stam regen and 1 stam curio

[spare light]

Hadron be kinda trolling me I think

[cosmic sigil]

zealot i go just for stam regen now

[spice veldt]

i'm running vet w/o +stam since I've got a -delay node and thy grenade be swift

and pswording my way through rager waves

[lyric burrow]

mk6 psword feels disgusting

vraks 7/plasma/mk 6 psword makes vet feel pretty insane even without the keystones

[harsh urchin]

try ps with 15% attackspeed

[vestal fulcrum]

Ah yes, the sacred way of Thy Grenades be granting the favour of stun immunity

[harsh urchin]

it's completely insane

[spice veldt]

two-shotting crushers with a psword without it being a meme build

what a great day it is

[lyric burrow]

i thought the horde clear would be bad to compensate for the single target and stagger but its still very good lol

[cosmic sigil]

yes

just go out of infiltration, and just destry everything around your for 10s

you're like a bomb

[harsh urchin]

using stealth smh

[warped fable]

is anyone able to help with the Malleus Monstronum penance?

[elfin roost]

I don't see the issue

[spare light]

well, still don't having blazing after 15K plasteel

[spice veldt]

a completely fair trade to take https://streamable.com/ijasrp

[elfin roost]

It's fiiiine

[harsh urchin]

blazing doesnt go up to 4

btw

[cosmic sigil]

yes and ? i use voc too

[spare light]

In about 150 hours on psyker, haven't gotten it once

[oblique torrent]

hey guys its there a way to escape death with the psycher when im gonna explose than venting shriek

[long coyote]

Have they finally fxied the surge bug or is it still bonkers?

[oblique torrent]

still

[echo turtle]

Jokes aside, any stamina stans out there running those curio(s) with kinetic deflection? What's your experience if so?

[long coyote]

It's great to be perfectly honest. One is more than enough tho

[brazen warren]

nope

[hearty sedge]

I feather 80% peril with voidstrike spam. Having stam backup for shove attacks and emergency block is important and keeps my dumb ass alive.

[echo turtle]

im not finding I am getting gaurd broken much myself, on aurics the issue tends to be fire/disablers in my experience but if a bunch of folks are really liking it maybe theres something I am missing

[hearty sedge]

I run a weapon that needs constant shove attacks, so extra stam is insanely useful.

[echo turtle]

what weapon?

[echo turtle]

I am pretty sure bleed removes the executor buff, or was that fixed?

[hearty sedge]

Exectutor is just a standby until I roll t4 uncanny

[echo turtle]

rend caps at 100% now, so even t3 is fine

[hearty sedge]

No sense burning extra plasteel for t3 > t4

Rend does not cap at 100%

[echo turtle]

it does

[hearty sedge]

Anything over 100% is extra damage.

[echo turtle]

it was a stealth change

[spice veldt]

it was changed this patch

[echo turtle]

in the recent hotfix

[hearty sedge]

:(

[echo turtle]

ikr

[spice veldt]

simply intuit through the morphogenetic field these hidden changes

[echo turtle]

mercy kill is also good if you dont have a good uncanny

[echo turtle]

are you playing aurics?

[hearty sedge]

I am, and largely letting my voidstrike faceroll it.

[echo turtle]

thats what the VS does yeah

[hearty sedge]

Knife is for emergencies/bosses

[echo turtle]

I like the knife too

[hearty sedge]

I have been considering switching to this though. Cleave all the cleave.

[echo turtle]

i am using FS or Duely tho, playing knife zealot makes knife psyker harder to enjoy ]

I hear Dclaw is great

though, I don't know if it really stacks up to an illisi

the parry is pretty awesome tho

[hearty sedge]

I like that I don't have to think too much with it.

Just spam lights that hit 15+ targets.

[wide galleon]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/delay-on-using-quell/69075/15

Has anyone experienced this?? I find it happening a lot and just found this forum post from a while ago

[hearty sedge]

Since voidstrike suffers in a strewn horde.

And sometimes my brain isn't on point for the near psycic dodges I need to do.

But on the other hand, this is sexy.

[echo turtle]

Snap

[fresh reef]

what are the preferred blessings for Combat Knife?

[echo turtle]

lacerate / uncanny probably are the best

[fresh reef]

I figured as much, just wanted to see if any knife aficionados thought otherwise

[echo turtle]

I cant think of anything better aside from maybe riposte, but lacerate allows you to blender hordes apply dots to specialists while you are at it

you really want rending and since you dont have stealth to get backstabs, uncanny is the go to

for zealot, I run flesh tearer and ruthless backstab, but on psyker my dagger has uncanny and lacerate

[fickle onyx]

Does surge staff secondary action count as ranged damage?

Hell all staffs secondary alt fire

[spare light]

I can't be the only one who's runs are just drowned in gunners right?

[fresh reef]

man

[spare light]

oof

[silk hawk]

Yes

[fickle onyx]

Nice

[fresh reef]

ain't perfect but it's pretty damn nice

[spare light]

Fellow knife enjoyer I see

[fresh reef]

The animations man

they're too clean

[spare light]

they are

worth the carpel tunnel

[fresh reef]

true

[spare light]

I don't run it on psyker though, but I might at one point

[fresh reef]

plus, it's one of the only ways you can show off weapon charms in the lobby

[spare light]

clean fit

[fresh reef]

ty

[spare light]

I love venting shriek & creeping flames but MAN these gunners piss me the fuck off

[fresh reef]

running the same build atm

staff m1 is your friend

[spare light]

Yea I guess

[silk hawk]

People don't know it exist xD

[spare light]

I just don't know which staff to run

if I run purg, I can't do much vs them

[fickle onyx]

Run surge cause enemies explode

[spare light]

Yea, thinking of that

Or purg & assail

[silk hawk]

It's easier to run assail then purge to be honest...

[spare light]

I'd like to run trauma for a while but Hadron is scamming me

[fickle onyx]

Running assail simply you get talent that removes movement penalty on quell

Cause

Yk

Its smoother gameplay

[spare light]

my 17th transfer peril on trauma

[silk hawk]

But... Quelling from 100 to 0 takes like 2 sec...

With a staff ofc...

[stable silo]

oh bby how d o i fix

[ornate hamlet]

Cavalcade to pinning fire and infested to flak

[stable silo]

double perk it to crit and flak? or inf to flak and cav to sinning

oh shit haha

[ornate hamlet]

You can build on crit if you want, since it gets some mad regen with the psyker's toughness on crit

[stable silo]

this is the one im running currently unsure if crit would be bettert

[proven stirrup]

Mother of god if the only thing I get them to change out of the shitty losing screen you have to suffer through at the end of a faild mission in order to get your consolation price, it's the fucking duration of that shit

Let me out of this bullshit

[cedar zenith]

Suffer in shame

[proven stirrup]

Fuck that

[cedar zenith]

You’ve failed the emperor

[proven stirrup]

Well since he seems fit to resurrect me and let me try again, I may as well do so faster

That's all I ask

Get me back out there

God they have to do something about how arduous leveling feels

[stable silo]

no if you die you deserve that screen i stare at it 90% of the time thinking how i could serve him better and stop being a scrub

you know what the answer to that is????? stare at the screen harder

[clear heath]

simply win every match

[magic vessel]

I'm addicted to Gaze gun+knife psyker

[clear heath]

how's gaze now?

did they do anything with it this patch?

[fresh reef]

about the same

good but the weaker of the 3 options

[pine nova]

this is a 380?

[fair spruce]

it is

it uh

it says 380

right there

twice in fact

[fresh reef]

I think the disgust is supposed to be at stopping power being low?

[pine nova]

ye

[fresh reef]

but like, stopping power is usually dump stat anyway

[lethal lagoon]

Isn't stopping power flak damage though on some weapons?

I don't remember for las pistol

[cedar zenith]

Stopping power is damage

It’s the same stat for any weapon that has it

[lethal lagoon]

No, some weapons it's definitely stagger

[cedar zenith]

Damage, damage fall off, and stagger

It’s all three

[cedar zenith]

Just inspect it and mouse over the stat

[lethal lagoon]

Oh I think I'm mixing it up with collateral

[fresh reef]

I was too lol

[cedar zenith]

Collateral is stagger yeah

[upbeat parcel]

for disrupt destiny, do you guys take more stacks or more duration?

[fresh reef]

(psyker chat not being knowledgeable about gun stat bars lul)

[fresh reef]

more duration

[lethal lagoon]

Getting above the base number of stacks is so rare, and it usually only happens like once per game even if it does.

[fresh reef]

since, are you really going to get 30 kills on the funny blue target and get time to use that full 30 stacks before it wears off in 15 seconds?

[spare light]

Surge with smite/warp charges/creeping flames is still so damn enjoyable to play

[lethal lagoon]

I just want to fix the bug so I can Surge/Smite like I planned when I read the patch notes 😦

[fresh reef]

may I recommend Blazing Trauma with creeping/smite?

it's very fun, especially if paired with warp charges since your cooldown is practically nonexistent

[upbeat parcel]

true, I'll go with duration

[spare light]

Why are you using the fancy knife to stab me like this? I haven't gotten a SINGLE blazing trauma so far

https://tenor.com/view/nollywood-cry-desespoir-black-boy-cry-black-kid-cry-gif-21448854

[fresh reef]

💪

just rng better fivehead

[steel flame]

man.....my back hurts

[spare light]

What setup?

[steel flame]

crit laspistol

[fresh reef]

sweet jesus, I'm sorry you have to go through that

[spare light]

RNG blessing system is a bitch

[fresh reef]

not to knock your skill, but like

fucking imagine getting carried by a laspistol psyker

[steel flame]

lol

[fresh reef]

this fucking hard

[spare light]

oh okay

[fresh reef]

huge

[spare light]

https://tenor.com/view/scrubs-jd-turk-pimpin-dance-gif-16884846

[steel flame]

i had to solo save the game 3 seperate times

[cinder moon]

stability is dump stat now, the thing is stupid easy to use when ADS

[steel flame]

nice laspistol

[spare light]

Nexus/Blazing right?

[steel flame]

stick dumdum on their and you are golden

[cinder moon]

that thing was awful to use when magdumping before patch 14

now? i just ADS and brrrr

[fresh reef]

I have smite to save our Zealot who's about to get oneshot by a crusher walking up behind them
Trauma to save our Veteran form the two poxwalkers their struggling to fight
and Shriek to save our Ogryn who got pounced by a hound 2 rooms back

[unique mist]

its funny how the perilous combustion nerf gives wildfire a small reason to run it now

[fresh reef]

Ideally, this is enough to prevent me from having to clutch in the first place and so far it has been

[steel flame]

why would you ever dump stopping power XP thats where all your flak and maniac damage is

[fresh reef]

well you see, this is a common phenomenon called

[stable silo]

it some weapons its only stagger in some its extra dmg vs armor

[fresh reef]

being incorrect

[valid talon]

Do you ever feel bad for leaving games?

[fresh reef]

[spare light]

Tell me about it, I just had an ogryn keep rushing forward, getting bent over by everything, AND taking all the damn heals, I went through the entire level without any heals

[valid talon]

I just got in a game with a stealth zealot and 2 stealth veterans

I feel bad for judging them prematurely but

Naw

[spare light]

Understandable, you'd be the tank lol

[cinder moon]

i only leave games when the players are so bad that their actions are tantamount to trolling. 99% of the time i try to stick it out and carry if i have to

[clear heath]

3 stealth users just sounds funny lol

[spare light]

if I get put into a lobby with 3 other psykers, I'm most of the time leaving

[clear heath]

at any time they can just choose to abandon you and run through the map

[valid talon]

I mean you can SEE that in the pregame lobby

And none of them thought it may be an issue

[cinder moon]

3/4 psykers is hilarious with the dialogue though

[bright mica]

What should I do with the perks on this? I'm fine with the Blessings as they are

[stable silo]

FLAK MANIAC

[bright mica]

for me?

[fresh reef]

imagine a horde starts and you just hear
"They'll never see me coming"
"221 Creeper stance"
"Emeperor hide my steps"
all at once, as the Crushers descend on you

[steel flame]

right off the bat we had a beast of nurgle, and then at the same time the zealot woke a demon host at the start, and then the vet tried to play hero and got himself killed to so i had to do the entire beginning section of the map by myself, and then 2 more times during the mission everyone got downed at once in elite hordes and i had to pick em all up cause they couldnt dodge overheads

[stable silo]

thats a really good illis just slap flak and maniac on there and call it a day

[fresh reef]

at this rate my head's gonna be the one exploding

[cinder moon]

i don't feel bad about blaming console players for 75% of failed heresy/damnation runs

[stable silo]

i mean if you feel like crit flak thats fine 2

[bright mica]

good thinking, maniac ragers were defo hurting me a lot and flak is a no brainer

[stable silo]

u already for perf blessings

[valid talon]

How do you even see if someone was on console?

[cinder moon]

you can tell by how they look around

and if they can aim or not

[spare light]

@fresh reef You know what's funny, I don't have a single Nexus on my traumas

[steel flame]

i was just, CMON PEOPLES GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER, all in my head of course because i was playing way to hard to even think about vocalizing that

[spare light]

this is a trauma

[bright mica]

nah it's for my surge staff/brain/shriek/warp siphon build

[cinder moon]

also they can't do lightning fast weapon switches in elevator

[bright mica]

so those perks are just perfect

[fresh reef]

sadge

[spare light]

guess it's kinda griefing running it without nexus

[fresh reef]

ehh, not really?

it's still a trauma

it's just worse at applying Soulblaze

[silent chasm]

What's the best duelling sword?

[fresh reef]

griefing would be running the loner aura on zealot

[spare light]

which would be the point

[silent chasm]

(friend wants to try Psyker and it speaks Saltzpyre the best)

[spare light]

I do that, cause I can't get the other auras with the stuff I want

[stable silo]

mk4 dueling sword is best

[silent chasm]

nod nod, thx

[stable silo]

and its nawt even close

[fair spruce]

yeah but that's like, your opinion, man

[dire saffron]

starting working on my psyker again trying to make a decent support cc smite build what staff should I use Surge Trauma or Purg

[fair spruce]

trauma is always my go to

surge is single target delete

[clear heath]

lol same

[fair spruce]

purg is dumb

[clear heath]

it's ok, i just tell myself the other zealot will run the good aura anyways

[spare light]

Trauma & Surge offer good CC, purg does aswell, but at less range

[silent chasm]

since of what it do, does Reality Anchor make Scrier's Gaze last longer

[spare light]

I'd legit take ANYTHING over it, cause I'm with the group anyways

[fair spruce]

trauma would be the best fit to lay into enemies for the sake of your tank

and then smite if anything starts to get close

let the team kill them while you keep em in place

[spare light]

You guys have tanks?

[fair spruce]

then back to trauma

[clear heath]

yeah but loner tends to save you talent points
And benediction on you isn't doing anything if someone else already has benediction so whatever

loner sucks ass but it's in a good position in the tree

[spare light]

Basically

[clear heath]

the state of aura balance is pretty fucked

a lot of auras are just trash unless you know your teammates already have the good aura

[spare light]

Can you teach some of my ogryns I get

[clear heath]

what the

[fair spruce]

surprised yall don't have an abundance

what with shield now being some of the best damage output and certainly the highest soak on offer

[dire saffron]

1st one or the 2nd?

[fair spruce]

both, chase dem blessins

first

quell speed is the safe dump stat

[dire saffron]

instructions unclear plasteel has been eaten

[fair spruce]

staves dissipate a ton faster than your stupid grubby hands

[cinder moon]

quelling is so fast now anyway

[dire saffron]

she didnt entirely fuck me

warp nexus is nice?

[clever lynx]

Warp Nexus is excellent now

[fresh reef]

god I hate bug abusers

had another EP surge psyker double my damage yet die multiple times before first horde

[dire saffron]

whats a nice perk combo and blessing pair for nexus

[fresh reef]

and then have the audacity to complain about her team

[fresh reef]

depends on the staff

[dire saffron]

trauma

[fair spruce]

crit obvz, crit damage too, and personally idc who stares at me for saying it

the tier 2 uninterruptable secondary charge puts in work

esp with trauma

can just stare at your feet and clear the area then get back to work

[clever lynx]

that's a Fire Trauma staff right there.

[dire saffron]

you think your funny?

[spare light]

Same

[clever lynx]

you can check the pins here for the Pysker guide

[spare light]

I just died cause nobody was looking behind us at the pox while I was trying to lift some idiot zealot up from a railing after jumping from it

[potent glade]

heresy

[dire saffron]

yea but im just looking for current advice not sure how old that pinned stuff is

I dont really play psyker all too much

[clear heath]

sometimes i wonder how many people see me with surge and just assume i'm abusing the bug
I hope it gets fixed soon

[fair spruce]

worth noting that burn on crit applies soul stacks to everything in the larger outside radius

not just who it damages or who's in the epicenter

anyone in close range kill distance

[clever lynx]

how does Surge interact with Trauma though? I assume it's for LMB only.

[fair spruce]

quelling on weak spot hit is an absolute waste unless it's been overhauled

trauma doesn't hit weak spot

ever, iirc

[dire saffron]

fr

really weird perk for such a staff

[fair spruce]

so is surge prolly, I doubt it drops a second aoe

[clear heath]

left click trauma

huge

[fair spruce]

heh but surge and opening salvo on third and fourth hit

plus crit and crit damage

sure would be a chuckle

[clear heath]

Whoever chose the blessing pool for trauma staff was on something

yeah lets just put some blessings that don't function

[fair spruce]

rending shockwave is my non starter

[pine nova]

this is my only trauma :3

[fair spruce]

warp flurry only really shines if you're running warp core peril resistance

and honestly keeping warp charges is too obnoxious to read for me

with 6 charges instead of 4 and peril/damage resistance talents

you can throw out like, twelve small aoes, nine max size ones

before having to quell

[clever lynx]

that looks fine for non-crit Void

[hard locust]

this good for me to just change the perks to flaniac or should I get a different blessing

[dire saffron]

any advice on what to change?

not sure if I want to keep blazing spirit

maybe replace it with the brittleness blessing?

[fair spruce]

personally if that's worth the opportunity cost I'd say go for it

I've never found blazing spirit to put in good work

[lethal lagoon]

Melee weak spot damage is bad btw

It's additive and only applys to the difference between a normal hit and a weakspot hit.

That's not the point.

Even with 100% weakspot aim, it's not really worth.

[fair spruce]

man I don't think so at all

[lethal lagoon]

5% crit is always the safe choice given wha I assume you are using it for.

25% damage of your chosen enemy type is good too

[fair spruce]

you realize on a duelling sword two stabs to a crusher's face will get you doing triple damage rigbht

crushers are like, 3shots

[lethal lagoon]

Just test it yourself lmao. Weak spot damage perks are ass.

[fair spruce]

and stabbing a slug a couple times suddenly you're doin 2.5x dmg

I have, and was pleasantly surprised

all mine stayed

[lethal lagoon]

🤷‍♂️

[lethal lagoon]

Goatee goes harder on Og with goggles >.<

[fair spruce]

then I wouldn't look like I'm always smiling a little too intensely at you

behind the beard

other weapons are much more lackluster I'll admit

but for the sake of argument, watch this damage ramp up on just light strikes with the illisi

at 20% increase per hit

[lethal lagoon]

I mean are you missing the primary subject, which is weak spot damage doesn't apply to the entire number?

[wide galleon]

Brain rupture right click just altogether stops working after you use shriek with kinetic resonance. Anyone else experience this?

[lethal lagoon]

We are just dicussing the perk, not the validating of weakspot damage lmao

[fair spruce]

oh I thought we were disagreeing on the rending blessing

[lethal lagoon]

No

Not even close lmao

Weak spot perk.

[fair spruce]

well I didn't know that did I

and whose fault is that

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like that was fairly clear

[fair spruce]

I thought so

weak spot damage sure isn't on ogryn paul and shield I'll tell ya that tho

[lethal lagoon]

I mean obviously rending blessing is the play, since they'll fix the revolver bug eventually.

[fair spruce]

I figured you psuckers would reap more benefit cuz of the much higher weakspot/crit calculation

[cedar zenith]

Damn it melk why

It was so close

[hearty sedge]

Damnation should be locked to level 30.

[fair spruce]

nope, weakspot hits are the orange damage you see bonking heads

[wide galleon]

Brain rupture right click just altogether stops working after you use shriek with kinetic resonance. Anyone else experience this?

[fair spruce]

if you click your weapon in the inventory list and press V, then E

you'll see a damage table of regular, crit, weak, and crit weakspot

[buoyant wadi]

Whats the best Dueling sword?

[lethal lagoon]

Most people say 4

[ornate hamlet]

Mk4

The heavies are utterly bonkers and the lights loop with both of them attacking downwards

[buoyant wadi]

bet

[spare light]

Ahhh Hadron please, just give me Nexus on Trauma, I'll even take level 1

[buoyant wadi]

some weapons dont benifit from crits

because of the way the deal damage

[fair spruce]

you can think of it as a baseline to start from, yeah

but it quickly becomes less helpful than other combos once you get a feel for the weapon's output against every enemy type

crit is not something to trust

[pine nova]

wait do you want carapace on surge or something else?

[clear heath]

the staff?

[pine nova]

ye

[clear heath]

I do flak + cara

flak + maniac is also good

[pine nova]

am thinking which to change

[ornate hamlet]

No no no, crit damage is something you almost never want

[clear heath]

change specialist to flak then

[pine nova]

[ornate hamlet]

And crit chance is nice, but not something you actively seek just like that

[clear heath]

This is the staff i've been using

[ornate hamlet]

Power blessings and damage perks are the best options because they don't depend on RNG

It's why we have stuff like slaughterer, trust, uncanny strike, warp flurry and other stuff being recommended, while things like shred and warp nexus are more situational on builds

[pine nova]

this is what i just built. I spent 300k at brunt and this was the best roll

[clear heath]

mine took 1 million ordo dockets

pain

[proper venture]

new psyker here...

What are the best perks for the Purgatus Staff?

[pine nova]

charge rate should be ok with flurry 4 tho

so I think it's a good roll

[spare light]

Nexus/Flurry is often used, can exchange flurry for terrifying barrage too

[bright mica]

empowered smite worth it or nah

[proper venture]

oh ok nice. What about the perks?

those are the blessings

[clear heath]

I feel like terrifying barrage isn't worth it for purg

it already suppresses stuff

[spare light]

I went for crit chance/flak

[proper venture]

cause I got this one atm

so i dont know which perk to replace

[valid talon]

Just a question for psykers - how did this guy deal 1.5k crits? I don't think smite can crit and neither weapon he was using is really a crit machine

[clear heath]

Surge staff crits a lot

[spare light]

MK4 duel sword

[valid talon]

131 weakspot hits though?

I thought the MK4 was good at weakspots

[clear heath]

surge staff with a high crit boost stat and warp nexus is going to be 40% crit

[spare light]

Hmm, that's a rough one, nexus is kinda big to have on it, so you could really exchange 1 perk

[clear heath]

he's just spamming surge

[valid talon]

I'm not sure...the next highest crit in the mission was 400

[spare light]

You know the crit chance of trauma w/o nexus by any chance?

[valid talon]

The least was 31

He has an ABSURD number of crits for a 22 min mission

[clear heath]

no idea

[spare light]

also Surge does a lot of different hits

[clear heath]

I only know surge staff is pretty high cause it actually has crit as one of the bar stats

the stat gives up to 20%.
Nexus also gives up to 20%

so at high peril it crits super often

Base crit i think is 5%? Not sure

[spare light]

I'm just full on copium on trying to use trauma with blazing and without nexus

CAUSE I SIMPLY CANNOT GET NEXUS FOR IT AAAAAAA

[clear heath]

I don't think blazing is really doing anything without nexus

[spare light]

Yea

[clear heath]

it's probably actually just base crit

[spare light]

RNG screwing me over

[valid talon]

Isn't surge staff bad at killing mob enemies?

Since it only hits a few targets

[clear heath]

yeah you're better off with melee or something if it's just a horde of weak enemies

[steel flame]

5%

[spare light]

I personally run surge with smite/creeping flames

[spare light]

Fuck

[clear heath]

creeping flames carries so hard man

[spare light]

plasteel issue

[clear heath]

25-30% of my damage is soulblaze and i don't even run soulblaze weapons

[valid talon]

How do you know what precent of your damage is what>

[clear heath]

there's a new scoreboard plugin

looks like this

[spare light]

How'd you get it?

[clear heath]

overproof's scoreboard plugin

it's pretty new on nexus mods

[spare light]

thanks, time to try it

[minor pelican]

Does warp nexus include Assail. or just the item it's blessed on

[clear heath]

just the item it's blessed on

unless they patched it, a lot of blessings do affect assails and dots as long as they're out

but since crits are calculated already the moment you throw the assail, nexus isn't going to be active

[minor pelican]

Is the brighter blue crystal shot on assail a crit, or is it just effects

[spare light]

Crit

also purple

[clear heath]

yeah i swear it looked more purple to me

[minor pelican]

could've been. i have bad eie sight.

gotcha thanks, just gonna keep running around as 40K Deckard Cain

[ornate hamlet]

I should plug that in my scoreboard

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-my-beloved-gif-22029076

[proud mantle]

for crit stacks keystone, is it better to have 30 stacks or the longer duration? i feel like with 30 stacks more often than not i'll be on an average of 10 stacks cause there aren't enough enemies

[long coyote]

good luck ever having more than 15 stacks on that with the short duration

[sullen bobcat]

Disrupt destiny just has too many RNG problems to be reliable and thus good

As well as making this fun minigame where you have to compete with your teammates for kills

[upper galleon]

Longer duration but dont take it right now

It is not worth

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/falling-down-stairs-bruh-drunk-gif-21485526

[sullen bobcat]

So is smite even worth using?

I just never saw the point of it

[spare light]

CC's about everything, good for team play

[sullen bobcat]

I'd rather just go kill everything

Considering psyker has plenty of mass CC options

That also do damage

[spare light]

Yes but when you're running auric damnation and there's about 8 crushers walking up to you, and 1 ability can CC them all, I'd say it's quite good

[sullen bobcat]

trauma staff

[spare light]

Oh yeah, it's a good staff, but what if you're surrounded? Smite has it's uses, although preferenced

[sullen bobcat]

Trauma your feet

Use the time to trauma others

[ornate hamlet]

Smite stuns if you tap the mouse button

You can swap, do a microsecond channel, stun the enemy and swap back

[sullen bobcat]

I just don't really see the point of tickle fingers when there's other CC options that also do damage

It's something I can't really use to complement anything else since the rest of psyker just does dumb amounts of damage

[ornate hamlet]

Well, there are no mass stun options in the blitz slot aside from smite

One of psyker's greatest strengths prior to patch 13 was that you always had a pocket wallhack sniper and could plan around that

[proud mantle]

hmmm, whats better for assail then

[ornate hamlet]

With how spammable it is, warp charges

Anyway

[upper galleon]

EP for horde clear, WC for more general use

[ornate hamlet]

Before patch 13, psyker could easily run a melee weapon and a close range gun or staff while still having long-range attacks through their brain burst

But in that case, running something like revolver was a bit odd because it operated at mostly the same range as brain burst and required you to aim headshots

[upper galleon]

EP I get blocked by peril more often than ammo, WC i get out of ammo before I’m even at risk of peril

[ornate hamlet]

So the ideal way was to get something you could dump on hordes, which was why purgatus and trauma were so popular alongside their obvious infinite ammo

[upper galleon]

Yee the only downside with my surge smite build rn

Is reallt distant targets i just have to shoot bolts

[ornate hamlet]

Now that assail somewhat took the spot of those weapons, people don't seem to be running those as much and like leaving the ranged space for voidstrike, which does very well in the areas assail sucks at

It flipped the theme of ranged for hordes and blitz for single to ranged for single and blitz for hordes

In practice, it's the same kind of setup

[sullen bobcat]

You mean blitz for like 99% of problems with the current assail

[upper galleon]

Surge is a great pair with assail as well

Anti armor anti large

[upper galleon]

Its been nerfed

[sullen bobcat]

Barely

[ornate hamlet]

And assail so happens to suck at dealing with crushers and bulwarks, as well as not actually being infinitely spammable like staves are

[upper galleon]

And it always had it’s weaknesses

[sullen bobcat]

Of just armor

[upper galleon]

Wrong

[sullen bobcat]

Which is just the 1% of enemies it couldn't deal with

[upper galleon]

-50 is huge for a spammy weapon

[ornate hamlet]

Smiting bulwarks can open their shields and crushers will stop doing nasty overheads while you wail on their head

[spice veldt]

assail still good

sure -50 is significant, but also you still have the insane ammo economy to work with

[upper galleon]

Oh yes it is still good

[spice veldt]

before the patch, I didn't really need to go through my entire 10 shards

[ornate hamlet]

Remove quick recharge from assail

[spice veldt]

now, maybe I'm throwing a few shards more but still getting roughly the same output

[upper galleon]

But -50 is -500 damage over the whole 10 shards

[sullen bobcat]

Going from a whole 4 shard to 6 shards

[upper galleon]

When you take the penetration talent, you lose at on even more damage

[sullen bobcat]

Representing like maybe 4 extra seconds of downtime

[spice veldt]

and breakpoints

[clear heath]

psykers waiting 20 seconds to clear our multiple hordes with their assails
meanwhile vets waiting 2-3 minutes for grenades and ogryn waiting 2 minutes for all their rocks

[upper galleon]

Tbf psyker always had good clear options just cause no ammo

Trauma, purge, assail is just the big offender rn cause it is great vs trash shooter packs

[sullen bobcat]

Yeah but assail is much farther range than all of the other options

The only real outlier is voidstrike

[upper galleon]

With a travel time and issues with terrain

[spice veldt]

and arguably more brain off than the other options

it has travel time, but it also doesn't require you to charge it

[proven stirrup]

ok yeah screw this failure screen, I will waive all rewards just to get out of a failed mission faster

[upper galleon]

It is brain off and it needs work but i feel exaggerating does nothing

[ornate hamlet]

make AoE
make it homing

[spare light]

EU damnation pubs at this time are the worst

[spice veldt]

and most of its time cost is passive, because it regenerates while you're doing other stuff

~0.2s to throw the first shard out and ~0.33s to throw the second out

[sullen bobcat]

Quelling is sorta a joke right now

[upper galleon]

You can also earn more EP charges so you can have 3 extra shards that can proc extra shards

[sullen bobcat]

So perils aren't even a consideration for assail

[clear heath]

people still find ways to explode

[upper galleon]

Contrary in experience

[proven stirrup]

Yeah nothing about peril generation is a surity when it comes to randos, Iunno what you're on about

[upper galleon]

With battle mediation and EP my peril gains vary wildly

[clear heath]

peril is a concern with assail because it's so boring that i stop looking at the screen and blow up

[upper galleon]

I can go below 50 with good luck but i can also shoot up to 100 quick and with no safety net like smite, or short downtime to think like BB

[spice veldt]

that's mostly just a product of gambling and being greedy if battle meditation/EP is incentivizing you to blow up

[upper galleon]

You can absolutely greed and gamble

[fresh reef]

incredible

[sullen bobcat]

Tbh, I was hoping assail was going to be more like a burst of shards / machine gun rather than just tracking bees

[spice veldt]

if you just stick to the same strat as if you didn't have battle med/EP, then you could throw the minimum bound of shards and then check your peril again for how many you can throw/if you need to quell

besides the ammo economy, I'm fine with assail

[sullen bobcat]

My peril meter is above my crosshair, so I don't miss it

[spice veldt]

homing weapon that can be aimed while you're using your other weapons

[upper galleon]

Yee i never risk peril running WC

[clear heath]

it should take as long to get 10 assails as it does to get rocks

[upper galleon]

The 36% reduction does a lot

[spice veldt]

but i do itch for a proper fast-firing precision weapon for psyker

[upper galleon]

Way more for your brain to process in the danger zone

[lunar hollow]

god PLEASE give us more staves

[sullen bobcat]

Tbh, I wish assail was more like Zenyata from overwatch

[spice veldt]

🥺

[fresh reef]

gaming

[sullen bobcat]

His actual weapon

[lunar hollow]

although i have scriers graia iag gameplay to hold me over until i actually like one of the staffs

[upper galleon]

Weapon would honestly need stat buffs and a rework to its EP

[spice veldt]

i'm on that columnus IAG grindset for now

[clear heath]

i think that's called a gun bro

[spice veldt]

i'll shoot you

[upper galleon]

See I don’t mind auto aim but maybe cause i liked smart pistol in titanfall

[sullen bobcat]

Voidstrike, crit on high peril, surge, gaze
Pretty much the build I run to have fun

[proud mantle]

anyone have any better suggestions for current build im running for assail https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a7d8ad4-711c-4769-acc8-495208dae588/assail-dd-trauma

[upper galleon]

Or homing arrow in diabl 2

[upper galleon]

Running gaze sounds dangerous asf i could never

[sullen bobcat]

Watch your perils lol

Which is why I moved it above my crosshair

Way harder to miss

[upper galleon]

Im a venting crutch user im sorry but i like to change my “blow ups” into damage to the enemy

[sullen bobcat]

At some point, I call it quits and just shoot a primary to hit 100%, quell down to like 70% and keep going

Turning on gaze is when shit hit the fan and I need damage now

[upper galleon]

Below or above i dont think it matters, i did that penance and now i always wanna ride that edge and scriers doesnt do anything for me besides funny sword out build

[sullen bobcat]

High peril builds with gaze is sorta constantly trying to walk a really thin line

Keeps it interesting

Especially with voidstrike and surge

[spare light]

Siblings, pray for me, trying to get Nexus for trauma

[proven stirrup]

Honestly peril management is a chore.

I'm just glad it doesn't do tick damage here like venting did to Sienna

That shit was so asinine

[sullen bobcat]

Thp is also a thing in vermintide

And it acts a resource for venting

There should be more high peril shenanigans in this game tbh

[spare light]

Transfer peril, flurryx2 and blazing

Trauma can have nexus right?

[potent echo]

Yea

[proven stirrup]

I just don't like the use of the word "crutch"

People suck at games, you're not going to change that unless you change what they have the most success with.

And at that point you're more likely to just chase the ones off that aren't willing to adjust.

[potent echo]

People suck at games, you're not going to change that unless you change what they have the most success with

[clear heath]

whether venting shriek is a crutch or not is also gonna depend on how you use it

some people do just hold on to it and use it as a crutch for bad peril management

but you can use it proactively to save time and do more dps

[proven stirrup]

But why does anyone care?

[potent echo]

Venting isn't a crutch, it's a killing machine

[clear heath]

yeah creeping flames is insane

[clear heath]

idk man, you're the one who cares about it being called a crutch

it's a game, idc what people use

[potent echo]

I wouldn't call venting a crutch

I would call smite abusers and surge abusers on crutches though

[clear heath]

i just like to differentiate between tools used to cover for avoidable mistakes vs tools that are useful even if you don't make any

you can use whatever

if you have a better name for mistake-covering tools, i'm all ears

[wet cloak]

How terrible is barrage for surge staff?

[potent echo]

Terrifying barrage? It sucks on everything

[clear heath]

having nexus+flurry is way better

[proven stirrup]

eh. I'm just too sensitive for these things. Can't help it.

Don't mind me.

[spare light]

@clear heath Did you disable all the basic scoreboard settings?

[clear heath]

I keep these from the default scoreboard

aside from that, the new plugin covers everything else i want

[spare light]

thanks

[clear heath]

change terrifying barrage to warp flurry

[spare light]

barrage to flurry and ranged damage to elite probably to flak or maniac

[velvet spear]

bricked?

[tame venture]

thoughts on one or the other? i had the 487 rating one for a while

similar case here, i just upgraded the 504 rating one.

[somber dew]

Jemlo, I'm wondering what's more versatile for Psyker, Smite build or Shard build?

Does one tend to do a bit of everything better than the other?

[clear heath]

i think you can pretty much handle everything with either build

assail will do damage and delete hordes, erase gunner packs

smite is nice stagger
sometimes super useful, a lot of times it's meh

[spice veldt]

i personally prefer builds with assail

trauma + assail + mk4 duellies is what I run usually

trauma for sudden 10 crusher/mauler patrol jumpscares and then yaddi yadda

[restive slate]

Whoever suggest GunPsyker with IAG... Emperor bless you. So much fun

[spice veldt]

it wasn't me but i stan IAGs

[clear heath]

I like psykinetic aura with shriek too much
and it's on the left of the tree and I can't reach it if i take assail so...

[spice veldt]

probably pygex since he was talking about it last night i think

[wet belfry]

'

[clear heath]

the only weakness of assail is its shitty location in the talent tree

[restive slate]

Switching back and forth from assail to gun and back again allows me to just keep attacking with no pause in between

[clear heath]

tfw i'm forced to take mind in motion

cring

[restive slate]

Psykers are stronger because of the cring

They feed the emperor a thousand cring a day

[spice veldt]

i go through malefic into prescience personally

which works out fine for me

i like shriek, but not enough to go through mind in motion

[tame venture]

what's wrong with MIM?

[clear heath]

I cant live without shriek

i must scream

[tame venture]

i like it for not being sluggish

[spice veldt]

mind in motion is basically a dead talent to me

[clear heath]

it's just really low value

[spice veldt]

since you can always dodge while quelling for speed

[tame venture]

tfw died 5 times in a mission the first time i tried the bubble shield

[clear heath]

you can dodge while quelling
and if you're quelling with a staff, you keep like 90% of your movespeed anyways

which i do out of habit

since staff quells faster too

[spice veldt]

a habit that gets me killed whenever i bring out a gun

[clear heath]

lmao

[spice veldt]

switch to ranged, tap v for a few milliseconds to quell, go back to assail to throw

oh no

i didn't quell

and then dead

[clear heath]

yeah i tried gun psyker a few times and i kept switching to gun to quell

pain

[tame venture]

imagine if MIM made you move faster than running speed

[spice veldt]

i find it interesting that Mettle (toughness on crit) got +movespeed bundled with it but Mind in Motion didn't in some way or shape

[clear heath]

I've been really liking mettle on surge staff btw

movespeed is goated

and the thing crits a lot anyways

[spice veldt]

spooooooood

[tame venture]

i need to grind out a surge staff

i managed to get a pretty good trauma and void today

but idk if they're that good

[spice veldt]

I can't remark on trauma in general since I use it as my "oh shit there are 10 crushers" stick and otherwise keep it in my back pocket, but it's nice for such scenarios

[spare light]

Ahhhh, 25K plasteel in, still no nexus on trauma

RNG

[tame venture]

https://tenor.com/view/subida-gif-18379274

Me

[spare light]

I wonder if it's a dick move to install the mod to not play with console players

[spice veldt]

enlightenedgameenjoyer mod?

[spare light]

Yea

[spice veldt]

i hope you're aware of what it actually does

[clear heath]

lmao

yeah go download it

[spare light]

[clear heath]

no one will mind

trust me

[spare light]

[spice veldt]

no sus here to be find

[spare light]

what does it do really then?

[spice veldt]

it just cancels your matchmaking all the time

[spare light]

figured

[clear heath]

Can't match with console players if you can't match at all

[spare light]

Oh that's what that meant

I just wish console players pinged more

[lunar hollow]

lmfao

[spice veldt]

i'm fine with people not pinging cuz i don't much either to greed for kills

[clear heath]

saaame

[spice veldt]

I do ping if it's a mutant running for another teammate, but otherwise, those elites/specials are for ME

[spare light]

[clear heath]

why help teammates when i can get my damage number higher?

[spice veldt]

sooo trueeeee!!!

[lunar hollow]

i ping stuff before i kill it

as like a "watch me be cool" thing

sometimes

[spice veldt]

josho ego

[lunar hollow]

yeah

ive put enough hours in

ive earned it

[spice veldt]

let everyone know that josho is a knife zealot as of today

[spare light]

I ping stuff to see shit clearer

Knife zealot ftw

[spice veldt]

a loner shroudfield knife zealot

frantically tapping ping to see a bomber through a wall of fire

before they can get another nade off

[spare light]

or frantically pinging a sniper

[lunar hollow]

lmfao

dude

i was GAMING

https://streamable.com/k681zw

[spice veldt]

wtf

[lunar hollow]

this wouldve been much shorter if i was confident in my build

but this was my first time ever using stealth

[wet belfry]

Is this a veteran playing zealot??

[spare light]

it's too fun

[lunar hollow]

the kant shotgun is fun to shoot

[wet belfry]

Its ok

Zealot is the better veteran

[lunar hollow]

theres also fucked up timing if you get too close to specials

like a dodge input that would work at 10 meters vs a trapper will not at point blank

so i try to avoid meleeing certain disablers if possible

[lapis bay]

What build was that?

[lapis bay]

Dope, thank you!

[tame venture]

iirc the time doesn't have to be sequential

it's just a total for the mission

[left basin]

SIKERS

did brain burst start being good

[noble mason]

no

[left basin]

is ass sale still busted?

[tame venture]

yes, but a bit more modestly

[left basin]

ok, ok

[tame venture]

BB is better than before but still not best

[left basin]

is VOIDSTRIKE still the BEST THING as it should be?

[noble mason]

no but its decent

[left basin]

won't touch bb until it one-shots monsters

[tame venture]

https://youtu.be/yRoT30CslJM

i think something is mentioned in this vid

[left basin]

was the norf that hard

[noble mason]

ya it hurt it but its still a good staff

just not op

[left basin]

zamn

😦

[noble mason]

still does good damage just be prepared to fire a few more shots down lane for the same damage

[left basin]

is it busted with the surge though

i have a iv iv surgecrit on void

[noble mason]

when u crit it still does alot ya

[left basin]

kk

[near wyvern]

Cheers!

[idle bay]

On my crit Surge/Smite/Dome - i go like this. Damage not as high as on bugged EP , but still satisfactory enough 🙂 And as long as i'm 6 warp charges - it's Surge spam 🙂 Smite used only in a pinch when i need to stop the push of 6 crushesr and 4 maulers at once.

Perfect Timing at 5 stacks in pretty much every engagement.

DS with Shred + Mettle = i barely ever need to block - my movement speed along with some dodges and you almost like a zealot on Frenzon

[clear heath]

yeah perfect timing goes great with surge staff

and movespeed from mettle is great

[idle bay]

With Warp Nexus t4 🙂

[near wyvern]

Yeah perfect timing is easy to stack with surge and gets a really nice damage increase on

For quickly applying it before fight, do some quell cancelled LMBs

[clear heath]

btw you can spam surge staff left click at nothing to start the fight with 5 stacks of perfect timing if you really want it for whatever reason

yeah that

it doesn't need to hit anything lol

[idle bay]

LMB is on Surge is my anti-horde option and option to delete that pack 5 miles away

[near wyvern]

Oh yeah nowadays you don't even need to quell cancel it cause it's so fast and has an internal 1 sec cooldown

[idle bay]

It's as fast as machine gun...

[clear heath]

yeah i don't even think i have the skill or muscle memory to quell cancel it any faster

i'd just slow it down

[near wyvern]

Surge LMB quell cancels

[idle bay]

It does not need QC it's fast AF as is 🙂

[near wyvern]

Yeah but you can increase the fire rate by 30% ish when you quell cancel

[idle bay]

I can click 60 times per 10 seconds... (but i need a new mouse afterwards).

[clear heath]

my hands are not good enough for this

i would be concentrating on it so hard that i'd miss every shot if i tried

[idle bay]

I also like that even after fix, you can still follow up one Dome with other Dome, and keep chaining Domes provided there are enough enemies to feed you charges

CD is really short 🙂

The thing i miss before Dome was added - "Rejects Assemble!" button. Now Dome - is basically THAT button 🙂

You can finally motivate team to go to the scan area in that ******* investigation mission in the end. Put the Dome in area with 2-3 scannable and in a moment team is there - allowing you do the scans

[rough compass]

Crazy clutch bro

[idle bay]

I see that crit surge/smite/dome build as Ultimate Mother Goose build.

1. Fast kill specials/elites - check
2. Hold the push of Crushers/Bulwarks/Maulers/Ragers - check (Also kill them fast with DS or Surge)
3. Dome to boost survivability and provide sniper protection

[lunar hollow]

ty

[tame venture]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1168417106849714256/image.png?ex=6551b03a&is=653f3b3a&hm=3bf83966e26768dc9237ceffdb734ebb7035b085fcb7dee7a1a25950cac65506&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1168417752059498497/image.png?ex=6551b0d4&is=653f3bd4&hm=3ab50a87712dbbde75757332223516b93617cdf77b850ac184e947445d070400&

i'm in a bit of a dilemma, because yesterday i got duplicate drops of my mainstay weapons, and now i'm unsure which is better

i think for both the higher rating one is better