#psyker-class

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delicate stratus
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idk, it's cool

unborn prawn
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Which means it's good for groups but less so for random teams

full egret
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a terrifying barrage purgatus does the exact same thing as a smite sadly

unborn prawn
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Still, it's a good way to balance out a single target damage build

upper shard
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i thought i would not enjoy my scryer but on lvl 1 i am actually having a lot of fun right now

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psyker has very unique gameplay indeed

proven nacelle
harsh urchin
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smite builds are pretty good as long as you don't use smite

harsh urchin
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surge bug abuse is really strong rn

upper shard
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i am just popping heads right now

harsh urchin
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very easily carry hishocks

unborn prawn
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Scryer's Gaze Laspistol is so good

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You just zoom around weakspot killing noobs

upper shard
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psyker has by far the best starting gear. devils claw and pistol with brainburst for wallhack specials. this is great

unborn prawn
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And you can get Disrupt Destiny to get more stacking bonuses

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Scrying Gunslinger

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most fun I've had with Psyker

edgy cedar
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Well thats itneresting. Enhanced Brainburst that activates via the passive doesnt use a stack of enhanced but still costs no peril and does more damage

heady garnet
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Planning on dipping my toes into gun psyker, any good beginner gun recs? (I have never shot a gun in any game before and this is my first fps)

thin finch
edgy cedar
thin finch
thin finch
atomic blaze
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how is this revolver?

viral solstice
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why revolver is actually the easiest possible gun to start with

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it does bananas damage and it has bullet magnetism

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its the easiest gun to hit heads with in the entire game

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quite literally

thin finch
viral solstice
thin finch
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and yes, tou have to hit head, which is why it's the hard way, where the lasgun just go brrrr

viral solstice
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god no a lasgun has zero trajectory assistance and when was the last time u said YEE HAW while firing a lasgun

edgy cedar
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autopistol is pretty meme-worthy

viral solstice
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explain that

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heres how u rate guns

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yeehaw -> yeenaw

edgy cedar
viral solstice
thin finch
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I don't have hat

viral solstice
heady garnet
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My boyfriend reccomended the uh

viral solstice
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im so sorry

heady garnet
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checks notes

thin finch
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my only hat have a plume ,cuz i'm a muskeeter

heady garnet
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accatran 2

thin finch
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the headhunter, maybe

viral solstice
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if you like fast firing laser guns why not, it's not the strongest weapon right now but it's still usable kinda

heady garnet
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He also plays vet so I don't wanna play something too ammo hungry

north cradle
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For lasguns that aren't ammo-hungry for Psyker, go with the Kantrael Mk XII

viral solstice
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ah yeah i would say if you want something lasery the laspistol is probs the most fun weapon in that genre right now

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oddly

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it's got great synergy with psyker stuff, ignores suppression due to great hipfire and you can set people on fire with it very effectively

thin finch
wispy pike
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Just use everything if youre not chasing the meta. Try it at least and see.

heady garnet
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Access to the uh

viral solstice
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yeah pretty much every gun is usable rn

heady garnet
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plasma one would be so fun lol

viral solstice
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the game is in a really good place balancewise

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and if you are levelling especially you will find that basically anything you want to try is going to be functional

thin finch
heady garnet
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I know ๐Ÿ˜ญ

thin finch
heady garnet
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I recently rolled a really sexy deimos which is the only reason why I want to try out gun psyker with scier's gaze

viral solstice
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i want psykers to get shotguns

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one of the psykers was a cop

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so pyskers should get shotguns

wispy pike
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Im doing gun psyker now and its really fun. Even if i only have an Illisi

viral solstice
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you know about laspistol swaps right

thin finch
viral solstice
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you can fire the laspistol on frame 1

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so any time you want to u can just quickdraw it

thin finch
viral solstice
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HOL UP PARDNER

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revolver isn't frame 1

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sadly

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its like 100ms in

heady garnet
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I've played this game for like 500 hours and I've never touched a gun before THIS IS SO MUCH INFO

viral solstice
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but the laspistol is literally frame 1

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if u macro it u can break the fire rate but we don't talk about that

meager eagle
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recc blessings for laspistol?

clear heath
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is spamming laspistol with qq cancels still a thing?

thin finch
viral solstice
viral solstice
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it needs to be faster

clear heath
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anyone happen to have some footage of it on hand?

viral solstice
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i am naruto, the star of the hit documentary

clear heath
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i remember seeing a clip of someone macroing it and it looked nuts

viral solstice
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one sec i have a friend who uses it a lot

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the laspistol is fun

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the laspistol speeds you up

thin finch
viral solstice
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when you shoot it

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vraks 3 is still very usable

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its recoil got improved, etc

heady garnet
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this is in the melkie shop rn

viral solstice
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thats amazing for a melk item

stable silo
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thats like really good

viral solstice
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literally just upgrade surgical to tier 4 and reload speed to whatever perk u want and ur guccisaurus rex

heady garnet
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oki doki

thin finch
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sdurgical is fine actually ,even if the psyker right side tree have a lot of bonus perk for crit hit

heady garnet
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I'm guessing this gun isn't the best for dealing with hordes, so in a horde situation is it melee time?

frail sand
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anyone else had issues where e.g. using brain burst and then can't switch to melee weapon reliably?

heady garnet
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oh true true

viral solstice
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basically if u have assail u can just extend all ur melee hits with assail

heady garnet
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what do you mean extend melee hits?

viral solstice
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you just kinda finish your swings and swap into an assail, or a shot, or whatever

heady garnet
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oh thats really neat

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Should I be going disrupt destiny?

viral solstice
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go whatever you're comfortable with, ep is good for assail, disrupt destiny is great for damage but you need to work through the jank

tired knoll
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how does one get the emperor to bless them with a brutal momentum

thin finch
heady garnet
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I think for now I'll take the perk that lets me keep the stacks for longer as a uh

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crutch

viral solstice
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oh right, i mean ih ave 30 there but it doesnt matter, those enemies get one shot at 15 or whatever. theres no breakpoints kek

thin finch
viral solstice
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i had just been fighting dudes for a while

thin finch
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it will never happens in reality thumbsdown_ogryn

viral solstice
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yeah it doesn't matter the destiny stacks are doing nothing when killing basic bruisers

vapid lichen
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do u guys run a stamina curio

thin finch
viral solstice
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the point was the idea of juggling melee into assail

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which is one of the most fun things about it

heady garnet
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what does the disrupt destiny mark look like?

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I'm in the meat grinder rn

viral solstice
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dudes just light up blue

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but they need to be ai active

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so only if you have the creature spawner mod can you see it

thin finch
heady garnet
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aw sadge

viral solstice
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also bruisers are bugged and won't get highlighted so just kill all bruisers on sight

thin finch
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randomly watching cosmic horror short at midnight

heady garnet
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Sadge ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

vapid lichen
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also if i want surge blessing do i actually have to buy and upgrade staves until i randomly get it and can sacrifice for the blessing

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that seems painfully expensive

heady garnet
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It's the only way

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either that or buy it from melks

viral solstice
vapid lichen
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fk im so poor

heady garnet
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Can i see anyone's gun psyker talent tree (revolver specifically)

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I have something set up but it feels very...squishy

thin finch
warped sky
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anyone have a brain rupture skill tree?

tame venture
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No

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Because everyone uses ass hail

warped sky
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I need it for the penance

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would just anything work?

thin finch
tame venture
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๐Ÿ’ฏ

viral solstice
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FUCKIN

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GAME

indigo thunder
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Has psyker gotten a way to make Beast spit out a teammate?

thin finch
edgy cedar
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Psyker has no boss stagger, pretty sure

upper shard
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bursting heads is fun

unique mist
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voidstrike can stagger with surge

vapid lichen
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oh no it's for my other staff that does have warp nexus

edgy cedar
unique mist
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then it's pretty consistent

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for beast of nurgle? you're right

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not consistent

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but i can staggerlock a plogryn

edgy cedar
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surge staffs crit bonus isnt chance but crit damage isnt it?

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can never remember

unique mist
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its mainly crit damage, yes

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but there is a crit chance baked in to it

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but the in game description says "melee primary and secondary crit chance"

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which is...strange

edgy cedar
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ah

viral solstice
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nothing strange about surge staff melee crits brothere

edgy cedar
viral solstice
gentle marten
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is there any situation in which a force sword charge is worthwhile? in my experience it seems like it just leaves you vulnerable too long for how little it does

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double that for the deimos

ashen schooner
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yea

warped sky
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can someone help me get malleus monstrorum?

ashen schooner
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deimos wrecks, just need to use when you won't get hit during the pin, illisi disintegrates hordes when charged

edgy cedar
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Ill use illisi charge when I feel more save to do so, but heavy/light repeat does more than enough anyway most of the time

ashen schooner
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I usually start with a charge so that first swing maxes slaughter then recharges as needed/have a chance

edgy cedar
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more or less

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374 voidstrike, but it has Sprint and T3 elite damage o nit

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;_; why

spice veldt
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you'll want to spam the special on the illisi and then never use the special on the deimos/obscurus

thorn cedar
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Incorrect. You must regularly stroke your blade, for if you do not use it, you will lose it.

spice veldt
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hnnnnnnnnng

thorn cedar
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Uggghn im gonna perilsss

upper shard
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this poor zealot is in a lobby with three assail psykers on uprising

supple dock
glossy ember
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happypeepo i should be able to use this for a long while

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oh yeah, by the way, does the run n gun 10% close range damage increase apply to the surge staff? I know it applies on ogryn kickback, was wondering if the same thing worked here

rose dagger
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For hordes that is

tender terrace
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brain burst suddenly eating good?

ashen schooner
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it's...ok? not a bad choice but others feel stronger

strange bone
viral solstice
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"one of the moves of all time"

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"Yep, that's brainburst!"

strange bone
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brain: burst

wispy pike
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'Eadbanger

strange bone
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also when is this going to do literally more than 200 damage

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would be cool if its base damage weren't so mid

wispy pike
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Its for telling poxwalkers to get off your lawn

wooden flare
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What would make it good but not broken?

bleak tulip
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if it killed hordes

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would still be worse than fire but it wouldnt be entirely useless

viral solstice
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why is assail so fun

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when the shards be hittin rite

upper shard
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it just is

vapid wagon
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its boring af

upper shard
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am doing it right now while saturday drinking

valid talon
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I wonder why this game doesn't have class weighted matchmaking - like if a game has 3 psykers does it really need a 4th?

upper shard
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is there a sort of pattern to the interrogator fields to click?

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like (it is always within 6 fields of bla) or something

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i am starting to wonder if there is a method to it

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to avoid the pesky field-right-under-the-field ones

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where you need god reflexes if even possible to do it

upper shard
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4 of the same class happens so rarely, i do not see why they need to control it

glossy ember
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this any good lads?

unique mist
glossy ember
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oh, not surge staff KEKW_ogryn

quasi junco
glossy ember
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alright i'll skip it then ty

upper shard
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incidentally, 4 vet teams have been the smoothest i know so far

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3-vet teams are the ones you wanna dodge on in my experience

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do not ask me why

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idk

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its random

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actually, maybe a queue for 1-1-1-1 would be a nice option to have

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not sure if it would kill queue times though

quasi junco
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I just wanna see the ranged weapon of my lobby mates.

upper shard
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you mean in pre-mission screen?

quasi junco
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So I can choose another staff if another Psyker has my build

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Yea

upper shard
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fair enough

valid talon
quasi junco
rare storm
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Nice mod imo, can have everyones items equipped on their backs

gentle marten
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are the autoguns any good on psykers

upper shard
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i assume they are just good

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nvm i do not play auric so

valid talon
rare storm
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One of the best monstrosity melting builds is an autogun build iirc

steel flame
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dumdum infernus laspistol and scryer is our best boss melter atm

quasi junco
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lol Iโ€™d never take a laspistol on a Psyker

steel flame
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why not?

gentle marten
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i've been using one for a while, it's quite good actually

rare storm
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Waiting to make one myself

gentle marten
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infernus/whatever the blessing is that recovers toughness on crit kill is the one i currently have

steel flame
quasi junco
steel flame
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to each their own to each their own

gentle marten
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guns are a good choice imo just because they give you a ranged option that doesn't take peril to use

edgy cedar
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its relatively obvious guns are mostly a pad choice dev wise

rare storm
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Guns give me an excuse to run scriers lol

quasi junco
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I played plasma vet earlier and holy smokes. Yea I like the ammo less Psyker

gentle marten
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not having to manage resources is nice to have, especially for other people on your team, but i honestly just like the vibes over any practical reason why guns are better

strange bone
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of course

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The God Emperor of Mankind is the strongest psyker there has ever been

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Wouldn't you want to be molded in his image and grouped with those like him?

gentle marten
rose dagger
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Agri brauto and Columnus IAG

gentle marten
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and psykers don't get the braced autoguns?

rose dagger
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O yea psyker chat, isn't vraks headhunter still best gun for them

rare storm
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err

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yes

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vraks mk7 headhunter

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solid gun

rare storm
twin vault
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Whats it do?

valid talon
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TFW your stealth veteran revives you in the middle of a horde and you get killed by the crusher on top of you .5 seconds later

rare storm
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makes you a silly goose

twin vault
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lmao

snow coral
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it could be argued the revolver is one of the top guns for psykers

rare storm
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I think

snow coral
rare storm
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can't remember it off the top of my head

valid talon
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I know you got that revive skill bro but theres a time to use it

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And when theres a crusher readying an overhead on your target isnt the right time lmao

gentle marten
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accurate single-shot guns sound great but i don't really have any issues with picking off elites and such since i run brain burst

fresh crater
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which dueling sword does everyone favor and why?

valid talon
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I think the "meta" is 4 due to its stabs

fresh crater
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eh im not worried about meta more just what everyone thinks feels best in this case cause i cant decide which i prefer and was looking for some advice

rose dagger
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Absurd with assail

steel flame
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be better, use laspistol

fresh crater
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gross

rare storm
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Whats the laspistol dump stat

devout moon
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What're the best perks for a surge staff? Flak armor and Unyeilding or Maniac?

rare storm
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mobility?

restive slate
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Theres a Handcannon bug?

neon steppe
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I like dueling sword mk 2 the best, has the coolest move set

rare storm
snow coral
rose dagger
devout moon
restive slate
gentle marten
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... what's the bug?

steel flame
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handcannon applies to all crits

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regardless of whether its out or not

gentle marten
gentle marten
edgy cedar
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but its been in awhile hasnt it?

steel flame
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its been a bug since launch

edgy cedar
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Yeah

gentle marten
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so like, any crits do hand cannon damage?

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or am i misunderstanding

edgy cedar
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No

steel flame
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all crits have 80% rending

rare storm
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So many guns I want to try, so little luck by the emperor

rose dagger
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There's been multiple instances of blessings being global... Till they get fixed

steel flame
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handcannon has been bugged since launch but its only become a problem now that rending is actually good

wet cloak
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I wish I would stop getting guns as a reward

gentle marten
wet cloak
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Did you mean blunts?

hollow spindle
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Most guns you get as emp rewards are like transcendant 450ilvl shit guns anyway

wet cloak
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Eww blunts

hollow spindle
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so you wanna trash them

rare storm
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350 base or trash

steel flame
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my standards are 370 or trash

gentle marten
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370+ base is hard to get but yeah that's basically my standard too

steel flame
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unless we get a lucky dump stat

gentle marten
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you just never get anything with decent damage otherwise

rare storm
gentle marten
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i'll look at every weapon i get just in case but in my experience it's never good

velvet spear
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siblings, which perk should i change?

rare storm
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if only it weren't bricked

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This would have been perfect

upper shard
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does that bayonet do anything?

gentle marten
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i also save lower level weapons since they're ever so slightly cheaper to upgrade and get blessings on

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if i don't already have every blessing i need on that weapon class anyway

rare storm
upper shard
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alright

wanton sandal
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that finesee makes me sad

rare storm
edgy cedar
rare storm
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shiii

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waiting for the guy making a tank psyker to be done with his build

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lul

edgy cedar
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Well you can what

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get 3 12%s from curio

wanton sandal
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hadron bricked it

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

edgy cedar
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then 20% and deflector

rare storm
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iirc he's doing all toughness red + toughness talent with no keystones

edgy cedar
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so like 80%? lol

rare storm
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I think he's trying to get 3 22% toughness curios

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but he disappeared into the gamba

gentle marten
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i need to make that build

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i want to tank

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melee psyker funny

rare storm
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melee psyker stronk

gentle marten
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zealot but head less empty

vernal lake
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Is there any reason not to charge Smite (Blitz)?

unique mist
rare storm
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Also enfeeble only works on non charged smite

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if you run that, that is

crude cape
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gun psyker for vraks VII build - anything wrong?

steel flame
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hell if i know

unique mist
dreamy heath
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Crit damage -> Flak
barrage -> Warp Nexus
That's the common purgatus flame staff combo right?
any other applications for the staff?
I searched through a few posts on it but most are from before talent tree update so not sure if anything major changed for it

steel flame
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i dont use vraks, too clunky

steel flame
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never take critical damage

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ever

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never ever

dreamy heath
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indeed, thats why it;s becoming flak lol

rare storm
steel flame
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they to shite math with critical damage

crude cape
# unique mist looks good

would you change anything if i was gonna use a infurnus/dumdum las pistol?
is there any crit stuff i can get im missing?

dreamy heath
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thanks for the answers

rare storm
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but your own preference I guess

wet cloak
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How do you even get tier 4 warp flurry? Do you just have to be extremely lucky?

crude cape
steel flame
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With laspistol

rare storm
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You're on brunts and hadrons mercy

wet cloak
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Is Darktide trying to be Black Desert Online with this RNG?

rare storm
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Didn't some guy spend like $1kusd on some BDO upgrade but didn't even get it

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lol

crude cape
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oh, One with the Warp i wanted, why i took seers

near wyvern
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@steel flame suprisingly fun build

crude cape
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but ill try it the other way too

near wyvern
wet cloak
rare storm
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That's... unsettling lol

wet cloak
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BDO is made for sucking in whales

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I bet Fatshark which they could be BDO

rare storm
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Meh most mmorpgs are

fresh reef
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Smite/Creeping Flames is a really fun combo

hollow spindle
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Most money was made by whales

near wyvern
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@steel flame
Take combat knife & columnus

hollow spindle
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who spent like 100s of thousands

near wyvern
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this build goes faaaast

hollow spindle
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into the game

gentle marten
steel flame
wet cloak
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sickening*

near wyvern
unique mist
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what's even the Combat Knife play

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because i got rending+power on weakspot and it felt like ass

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maybe bleed is what i'm missing

rare storm
wet cloak
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Honestly I have a surge staff with only 66% in crit bonus, and everything else is good and I do just fine in damnation missions

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I do wish I had more crit bonus though and that's how it begins.

long wharf
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you definitely want Wildfire

near wyvern
rare storm
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oooo interesting

crude cape
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crucian roulette and deadly accurate are good on the vraks? or is there a better combo

steel flame
rose dagger
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Prefer autoguns myself as well

rare storm
steel flame
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its so close

wet cloak
long wharf
unique mist
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how bad was the bleed nerf?

near wyvern
gentle marten
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not too bad from what i can tell?

rose dagger
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Diablo lol

near wyvern
unique mist
gentle marten
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it was like 40 damage pre-patch 13, and then 200, and now 175? i think? so it's still significant

long wharf
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no, not "everyone"

rare storm
long wharf
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seasonal characters/realms/servers is a common thing for ARPGs

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only idiots complained about that

rose dagger
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New diablo just looked really mid to me and I don't care for Blizzard so I didn't bother with it

gentle marten
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it feels to me like it was along the lines of the assail nerf - actually reasonable change that didn't ruin bleed, just made it a little better in terms of game health

long wharf
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of all the bad decisions made in Diablo4's design, that wasn't one of them

rare storm
glossy ember
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got a question for top part of talent tree, is toughness on warp kill better than toughness on peril gained?

rare storm
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Feels more universal now

rare storm
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but for the most part yes, soulstealer is usually better

rose dagger
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Diverting its power to m2 makes it overlap with BB more tho

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Questionable

glossy ember
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im running catachan/surge stzff

gentle marten
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m2 assail costs a bit too much peril for my taste

gentle marten
glossy ember
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but aight ty

gentle marten
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i still run BB and its only major issue is just that it's slow, and you can mitigate that by building around it

glossy ember
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i love new BB it's fun

rare storm
glossy ember
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compared to the old one with warp charge upkeep lmao

gentle marten
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i just don't know what to do with my ranged slot because my space magic is already handled and my melee weapon+combat ability+teammates can deal with hordes well enough

rose dagger
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I also run BB cause I don't like the assail or smite lol, but assail psykers seem to one shot specials with m2 now

long wharf
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I think current BB's base "charge" speed needs to be faster

rose dagger
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Or maybe 2

rare storm
heady garnet
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This is probably such an egotistical take but now that I've been trying gun psyker with scrier and disrupt destiny instead of taking like, the shield or aoe knock back with CC staffs people go down more?

gentle marten
glossy ember
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i imagine the extra toughness is better

rose dagger
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Niche

gentle marten
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assail just wipes hordes stupidly well

rare storm
long wharf
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I think Fatshark should revert the Assail damage changes and simply reduce the shard cap from 10 to 5

rose dagger
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It used to be mostly reserved for sniping/snatching specials

rare storm
long wharf
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lower the shard recharge rate a little as well

edgy cedar
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mostl think just need to figure out what assail is intended for

crude cape
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my issue with vraks 7 is its recoil still kinda sucks, so do the sites. also seems to chew ammo

long wharf
#

BB is still only for sniping

edgy cedar
#

its borderline its own weapon lol

rare storm
#

Assail is just for no brain horde clearing and smite is for CC support

gentle marten
#

the fantasy of assail (throw out heat-seeking needles to kill entire rooms) is cool

rare storm
#

I think it's kinda alright

unique mist
glossy ember
#

i'm runnin bubble shield

#

so quite durable

rare storm
#

to be fair, you can run whatever you want on psyker and it all still works anyway lol

long wharf
#

I don't prefer to create new characters on a seasonal basis, myself

#

but there are plenty of people that do

rose dagger
#

Eh I don't think psyker is that powerful

long wharf
#

assail shines when you actually target and guide it

gentle marten
glossy mango
wet cloak
#

Assail is best when there's a horde in a nice group in front of you

#

Just kills them all

gentle marten
#

i'm talking about the whole vibe of assail, not the actual mechanics/numbers

long wharf
#

but not when it's right in your face

long wharf
#

it takes longer to kill things when you can't guide assail shards at heads

gentle marten
#

you can really easily make anything balanced by messing with the numbers enough, but i think one big part of assail's appeal is that you can throw out a lot of shards at once

glossy mango
wet cloak
#

Assail is also very good for hunting grounds, pretty much neutralizes the threat almost immediately.

long wharf
#

honestly, I'd be perfectly fine if you could only control one shard at a time

glossy mango
long wharf
#

assail doesn't track weakspots

glossy mango
#

So why do their heads turn to the blue mist when you kill em?

long wharf
#

the flight behavior makes it hit heads when the shard dives towards the target from above

glossy mango
#

Is that just the death effect?

gentle marten
#

assail can and will slice off limbs and such too if it hits them there

long wharf
#

assail targeting is enemy center mass

#

at all times

rose dagger
#

Honestly don't think assail is that OP, it's just mindless and doesn't make for compelling gameplay so I don't run it

glossy mango
#

Good to know

long wharf
#

I think assail would be better served if you only guided one at a time

glossy mango
long wharf
#

throwing a shard would make any shards in flight unguided

gentle marten
#

they could also really differentiate the two modes

long wharf
#

yeah, the whole "aiming" thing is rather stupid

gentle marten
#

make the left mouse click throw every shard at once for wiping hordes, make the aimed click throw a single, more powerful guided shard for dealing moderate damage to elites

wooden flare
#

Welp

#

I had a task failed successfully moment bois

gentle marten
glossy mango
long wharf
#

having every shard do a random targeting would be interesting

wooden flare
#

Iโ€™m trying to get Power Up done, simple penance just time consuming. And I accidentally got Pickโ€™nโ€™Mix done

glossy mango
#

Congrats

rose dagger
#

Make assail function more like PBM from DRG and it'd be more compelling, have the knifes chase your targets entirely by your controlled guidance and not automatically

gentle marten
#

thank the emperor that i'm already done with all the psyker penances lol

long wharf
#

I think it's stupid, because you're actually throwing the shard to guide its flight path in a more-or-less line

gentle marten
#

i hated warp battery

long wharf
#

why that would take extra peril makes no sense

wooden flare
gentle marten
#

i did em all for the hell of it

glossy mango
gentle marten
#

it does

long wharf
#

it does

gentle marten
#

it does nearly double damage

long wharf
#

just not noticeably

glossy mango
#

Well damn

wooden flare
#

The only one that seems difficult is Keep your Distance but it specifies Elite and melee only so that makes it seem not as painful as it could be

gentle marten
#

340 vs left click's 200 i think

long wharf
#

honestly, the only time I ever aim a shard is at snipers

#

and for them, the extra damage is wasted

gentle marten
#

eh, it can be nice for hitting faraway hordes because the shards do fly faster

wooden flare
#

Somehow I got Not Even Close done

long wharf
#

hitting a faraway horde is a waste of time

wooden flare
#

Some fucking how

long wharf
#

I still think Assail's niche would be better defined if we only guided one at a time

gentle marten
#

it'd have to pierce way more for people to like that

long wharf
#

I'm okay with that

#

lower the shard cap to, say, 3

gentle marten
#

i like the idea of that for the m2

long wharf
#

give the "aim" version more target cleave

gentle marten
#

if the m1 provided a swarm of tiny shards that really didn't do anything to elites, but was ok at mid-range horde control

#

and they all just sort of hover around each other like a swarm of angry crystal bees

twin vault
#

Whats the best way to get blessings to save for rolling unto another weapon?

long wharf
#

buy grays and upgrade them to blues

near wyvern
gentle marten
#

you'll run out of plasteel pretty fast so you'll have to actually play the game more if you don't get what you want, obviously

gentle marten
#

feels like sometimes there's nothing that can get your strike team to group up

valid talon
gentle marten
#

it's terribly unlikely, but not impossible

long wharf
#

I've never seen a blue in the shop with a t4 blessing

gentle marten
#

never with t4

valid talon
#

I have never seen a blue in requisitions with a...yeah

gentle marten
#

but t3 is usually good enough

#

extremely rare to find, but good enough most of the time in my opinion

long wharf
#

it's pretty rare to see a t3 blessing in the shop

#

do the weeklies for Sour Milk and save up the Milkies you earn

#

and only buy t4 blessings for what you're targeting

twin vault
#

Hows this? Needs better perks, but which?

long wharf
#

you definitely need ranged crit chance on there

gentle marten
#

also i'm pretty sure dumdum applies to all damage despite its info text

twin vault
long wharf
#

alright siblings, time to suffer

gentle marten
# twin vault

the weapon base stats are pretty middling too, you want better damage and stopping power than that

long wharf
#

strike 1

#

oh ho

gentle marten
#

there you go

#

now you just need to not strike twice more

wet cloak
#

It has potential

long wharf
#

doh

#

aaaand I'm out of plasteel

gentle marten
#

the suspense

long wharf
#

what a tease

gentle marten
#

find out if it's yet another shit gun next time on darktideball z

twin vault
#

is there a way to check ur crit?

wet cloak
#

I don't believe so. You have 5% base crit as psyker

brazen warren
#

psyker base is 7.5%

wet cloak
#

Was that confirmed?

brazen warren
#

it changed with the class update

long wharf
twin vault
#

does the aura increase that by 5?

wet cloak
#

Yes

cinder moon
long wharf
#

any hit will proc it

#

which is why stacking it with infernus is broken

cinder moon
#

i like having ghost on there so you can just do the m1+w meme

#

wildfire is free max dumdum stacks

crude cape
#

what blessings on the vraks 7?

long wharf
#

but dumdum + infernus + scrier's gaze = boss kill

cinder moon
#

can do it with 6wc too

steel flame
#

oh dear

#

i might have to get one now

#

what you using on it

steel flame
#

so you can just prestack

#

and once infernus is going it just keeps dumdum up

cinder moon
#

assail boring

steel flame
#

you poeple use assail in a boring way

cinder moon
#

i have zero confidence in 99% of the assail users i see anyway

#

they never put it away

restive slate
#

I prefer rightclicking my assail

steel flame
#

i like it because it staggers almost anything so it sets up nice headshots, easy peril gain to regen toughness

restive slate
#

Opens up Bulwarks for me to shoot them in the face

steel flame
#

and it can cover reloads

steel flame
#

what blessings you got on that sucker so i can waste more money

cinder moon
#

wish psyker got access to shotguns, i feel like they'd actually be good

rare storm
cinder moon
#

autoguns do nothing for me in this game idk why

#

only really enjoy the revolver and ogryn ballistic weapons

brazen warren
#

have not attempted to use the infantry autoguns after the recent patch, but they all had terrible(unusable) recoil with aim down sights. the columnus variant with the highest rate of fire was decent as a hipfire close range option though

#

if they fixed the ads the slower ones might be ok

cosmic geyser
#

anyone else heartbroken by the lightning nerf?

cinder moon
#

smite with extra damage is still useless lol

#

such limited CC

#

i'd rather just use surge staff to actually delete stuff

cosmic geyser
#

thats what im saying. the unlimited channel from advanced psionics was its only saving grace

cinder moon
#

the buff they made to smite has turned surge staff into a monster though

rare storm
#

Well, the smite blitz nerf may be sad, but it's now brought up the surge buff lol

cinder moon
#

i kept detonating poxbursters instead of pushing them back

#

like, what??

restive slate
brazen warren
#

cool

restive slate
near wyvern
# steel flame what blessings you got on that sucker so i can waste more money

dumdum 3 and fire frenzy 4, can't wait to get dumdum 4 on it

+flak is pretty much all you need as a perk, it doesn't really deal with carapace and everything else dies in a blink even without a perk

if you can choose the second as well I would put +unyielding just to get some extra DPS on reapers and beast of nurgle (reapres die fast tho)

columnus has quite bad damage far range but short to medium range it's just brrrrr

restive slate
#

Smite isnt meant to hold forever anyway, the damage boost is noticeable and viable

near wyvern
#

you want dumdum so that it's easier to trigger fire frenzy and then when that triggers it's just cheese town

cosmic geyser
restive slate
#

Pygex how about the Agri IAG on Psyker?

near wyvern
#

works, get sustained fire & punishing salvo and fire in 4 round bursts (the blessing descriptions are a lie, they boost shots 2, 3 and 4)

restive slate
near wyvern
#

all the infantry autoguns work now, columnus is most DPS but most ammo hungry and closest range, agri is the most ammo efficient option

restive slate
#

I still controlled the entire horde of a high int auric

cosmic geyser
#

fair enough, still grumpy though xD i loved crouching by the auspec, dropping bubble shield, then channeling my inner palpatine "UNLIMITED POWEEERRRRR"

near wyvern
#

but when you weave with assail and leave columnus for those oh shit gotta apply lotta damage now moments then you never have ammo problems

#

you can even spare some ammo to mow down horde every now and then without going to orange

restive slate
restive slate
crude cape
#

sorry guys what are the vraks 7 best blessings again?

steel flame
#

my god i just played the best defense of my life in the last game

#

was the only one alive multiple times

#

only took 146 total damage

#

that was sketchy as fuck

lyric burrow
wooden flare
#

3 penances done in one mission

#

Letโ€™s go

past brook
#

this is part of the damage stat on the purgatus staff
what the heck is it? the fact it goes down as you get higher damage makes it intriguing to me

brazen warren
#

hmmm, that sounds like how often the game checks for a mob to freak out(stagger) when they get set on fire

#

lower number, more checks in a period of time

unique mist
edgy cedar
#

really hate I cant have the crit aura on shreik

#

reee

stable silo
#

meme sword alive yadda yadda yadda scriers crit talent build lez go

jolly cedar
#

Does surge still work on voidstaff's right click?

bleak tulip
#

yes

long wharf
#

welp

rare storm
# long wharf

unarmored to unyielding and between the eyes to infernus and you'll be a boss melter

#

Nice wep

lapis bay
#

Laspistol good?

thorn cedar
#

yas

lapis bay
#

Dumdum and Infernus rright? What perks-- same as always, flak + Carapace?

dark stag
#

Is this bad?

orchid shadow
# dark stag Is this bad?

Should be decent. This is mine, but I checked if it needs to be updated with anything different since the patch.

dark stag
#

Should probs switch both the perks

orchid shadow
#

Just swap out Sprint Efficiency and Blazing Spirit for something better

dark stag
#

oh is blazing spirit bad?

orchid shadow
#

May be just me, but it's your Horde sword. Anything you're going to be cleaving is going to die, which I don't think is going to gain that Blazing Soul stack

dark stag
#

oh true

orchid shadow
#

And you're not likely going to be trying to go-toe-toe with anything else unless it's an drive by swipe on a hound or mutant

dark stag
#

I was like "I'm gonna get infinite wildfire valueeeeeeee" but I guess if they die first it won't transfer

#

Maybe I should just get a new one with better perks

orchid shadow
#

If you don't do Delfector you can keep it and get something else

#

It's one of those things that you go, "Hey! It saved my ass." on the rare occasion, then it's useless in every other situation.

#

Or you have to emergency block tank a DH

dark stag
#

Honestly delfector's been helping me a lot actually xd

#

I hate gunners and they are so many of them on damnation sometimes

willow escarp
#

anybody use the Deimos special for anything?

orchid shadow
#

Then, yeah. It's not a bad sword then. Just the perks could be better.

rare storm
#

Brunt treating me well, hope this doesn't brick

#

hadron a mofo

dark stag
ornate hamlet
#

I'm gonna do it

#

You can't stop me

rough compass
#

I just started playing Psyker and I'm kind of hating it.

bleak tulip
#

because no staff?

rough compass
#

I have the three other classes to level 30

restive slate
#

Wait till you get unlimited power

rough compass
#

My boyfriend is a Psyker main and he's been stoked for me to try it. :L

bleak tulip
#

well whats your problem with it

rough compass
#

I feel like I am a sitting duck 80% of the time

#

And actually useful for the 20%

wispy pike
#

What level are you?

rough compass
#

I'm enjoying brain bursting but holy shit how do I get the thing that lets me have normal movement whilst quelling pleeeeeeeeeeeease

#

Level 12 atm

grim zodiac
#

is there no separate keybind for quelling ?

bleak tulip
#

you only need 6 levels to get mind in motion

grim zodiac
rough compass
bleak tulip
#

ah

#

I mean you can quell while sliding

rough compass
#

I don't like smite and I was advised not to touch the right tree

bleak tulip
#

its the better way of doing it anyway

rough compass
#

Dodges during quell are kinda shoddy too

#

Find myself needing to dodge slide a lot

bleak tulip
#

yeah thats kind of the name of the game

#

slide everywhere

grim zodiac
#

is it redundant to have force staff + smite? doing it rn and seems dumb to me but idk

restive slate
#

You mean surge staff? The lightning one?

bleak tulip
#

theres unintended synergy for taking both

wispy pike
#

You can never have enough lightning

restive slate
#

Though its probably a bug atm

wispy pike
#

Unless you explode I guess, thats too much lightning

rough compass
#

Trauma force staff is nice, what are the other fun ones?

restive slate
#

Theyre all fun

wispy pike
#

Purgatus sets their souls on fire

rough compass
#

I find I gotta stay elevated, climb on top of a box or some such to take full advantage of the AOE

stuck spruce
#

purgatus set fire everywhere and stun ennemies in close range

grim zodiac
#

wtf is soulblaze?

restive slate
#

Trauma takes a while to get used to for aoming, but its a solid staff

bleak tulip
#

the blue fire

rough compass
#

I think soulblaze is a DOT effect

#

idk

grim zodiac
#

so....

rough compass
#

i just started

restive slate
#

A unique burn for psyker

grim zodiac
#

how does that proc

#

is it from my blitz?

#

or my staf itself

#

where

bleak tulip
restive slate
#

Purgatus staff applies soulblaze

bleak tulip
#

or some blessings

rough compass
#

Also am I cringe for rebinding my blitz key to spacebar

restive slate
#

Some other weapons can have blessings to apply soulblaze too

rough compass
#

It's way easier to reach and I rarely jump anyways

bleak tulip
#

as long as you have a separate dodge key

restive slate
#

Its fine, i wont judge... much

rough compass
#

I havce dodge bound to caps lock

restive slate
#

Also lmb for staffs are funny now

#

The psyker is mad throwing osychic bolts

bleak tulip
#

I'd recommend getting a jump key somewhere you do need it sometimes

#

for climbing and shit

rough compass
#

Scroll wheel up & down are my jump keys

#

I use it to bunnyhop in other games lol

strong gulch
#

I can't judge people's key binds. My side mouse buttons are dodge and push to talk.

Middle mouse scroll down is my blitz.

grim zodiac
#

can someone help me out? im confused whether i should take this perk since idk if i ever do proc soulblaze

bleak tulip
#

wildfire is pretty bad overall

#

and no, it doesnt do anything on its own

#

you need some way to apply soulblaze

strong gulch
#

If you have free points and think it's fun, then take it.

But you need to have soulblaze to even proc it.

grim zodiac
#

ok thanks, now this: what are warp attacks?

ornate hamlet
#

Magic

grim zodiac
#

so anything the staff does?

bleak tulip
#

yeah

#

also everything your blitzes do

ornate hamlet
#

And the force sword specials

#

And the blitz

grim zodiac
#

ah cool ok

strong gulch
#

Any of the magics.

any staff, fire, and specials from force swords

grim zodiac
#

do i need a special perk for sliding for the quel thing? i tried it but i cant even sprint enough momentum to slide

strong gulch
grim zodiac
#

should i bother with the punch of the staves? seems weak to me

strong gulch
#

You can keykind them together, but you'll have to adjust the way you dodge if you have no momentum and try to dodge to the side, you'll just squat.

bleak tulip
#

they stagger shit now but generally dont worry about it until way later

#

just focus on dodging

grim zodiac
#

bet betg

distant hound
#

just a question bois! Warp battery still bugged?

strong gulch
#

You can play with the bonk in the meatgrinder to see if headshot bonks stagger dangerous targets.

If you have dueling sword tho, its special is a fast jab that can staggered even a charging mutant with a headshot.

chrome linden
#

alrigty. i have played ogryn, zealot, and vet

#

what does the psychers got for me?

undone fossil
#

Bunch of magical bullshit

bleak tulip
#

chared bonks hard stagger shit pretty good

undone fossil
#

and bugs

bleak tulip
#

but I dont find myself ever using it

orchid shadow
#

Just had a run with double Surge users (so much lightning everywhere), audio bug where ALL audio echoed 3 times, and a Zealot who somehow had a bug where his Holy Relic was infinite for half the level. It was surreal.

rare storm
#

And then when you're lv30 you can spec freely into other things

rare storm
grim zodiac
#

i can complete this with brain RUPTURE still right?

rough compass
gritty marsh
#

whats the meta melee weapon now?

orchid shadow
rare storm
grim zodiac
#

EP?

rare storm
#

Empowered psionics

grim zodiac
#

is still lvl 9 brrooo

rare storm
#

o

#

idk you can try your luck then lol

#

I only start doing my penances at lv30

bleak tulip
grim zodiac
#

ik this is less than mid but whats bettter

brazen warren
#

moveset preference at this point

bleak tulip
#

damage and finesse generally are the two stats you want high

#

as a very general rule of thumb

grim zodiac
#

ok will take left then, ty

#

do blitz crit? like smite

bleak tulip
#

they do but smite is overall pretty bad damage

#

its more of a CC tool

rare storm
#

I think BB doesn't crit tho

orchid shadow
gritty marsh
bleak tulip
#

doesnt matter that much for the sword

orchid shadow
#

If I could've video captured that, it would've been amazing.

grim zodiac
#

assail crit? wanna try assail build with crit even tho im lvl 9

bleak tulip
#

yeah

harsh urchin
#

just go whatever you want

brazen warren
#

I think BB can crit, just uses your base crit value

harsh urchin
#

you won't have enough points to do anything

#

until you're max level lol

grim zodiac
#

ok will do then

brazen warren
#

use many different weapons to use the move sets, find the ones you like/fit the situations you find them working in and go from there

bleak tulip
#

when in doubt it can crit

#

I cant think of anything that cant off the top of my head

#

just some things are very low base crit

brazen warren
#

usage of BB crits is very very borderline, maybe only if you are running warp siphon and need to BB crit to hit the breakpoint to one pop maulers

#

empower just brute forces maulers pops

#

hope they rework scriers gaze

hybrid notch
#

Assail is best ya?

#

In malice missions I find I can use the void staff nearly the whole time. Am I just learning bad habits?

bleak tulip
#

nah

#

assail's in a weird place

#

still overtuned, no real design direction (they buffed right click but its still pretty pointless)

harsh urchin
#

@lunar hollow u wanna play?

ornate hamlet
#

Yeah, right-click still feels bad

#

I tried to use it as a sort of revolver while getting a more spammy gun, but ugh

robust sierra
#

Hello psykers, if I might ask, what force sword is the best?

lunar hollow
harsh urchin
#

do you know anybody else

#

who would like to play

bleak tulip
robust sierra
#

illisi for hordes and deimos for single?

lunar hollow
strong gulch
#

TBH what you learn to do in lower difficulties doesn't scale up well in higher difficulties. Sure there are the basics, but your tactics for dealing with situations will change as the content gets harder.

harsh urchin
#

wasted it all

#

trying to find thunderous

lunar hollow
#

i have saved up 12k plasteel and 800k ordos

#

im waiting to be inspired to spend it all on dumb shit

spice veldt
#

i might play once i'm done with my homework and you guys are still playing

harsh urchin
#

sure

robust sierra
#

another question, is smite good with soulblaze?

strong gulch
# robust sierra illisi for hordes and deimos for single?

Basically yes. Illisi is great for hordes. It actually clears them vs just managing them. It falls off against armor, especially carapace. You can pair it with something that can manage those tho.

Deimos can manage hordes but you have to work a harder at it. It's not great at clearing them, BUT is is great at single beefy targets with the heavy 2.

robust sierra
#

right

robust sierra
#

I already have a (shitty) assail build, I want to try and branch out a bit

open stratus
#

I run smite with soulblaze it's pretty good. From the few times I run that build.

bleak tulip
#

you mean running smite when running purg? I wouldnt recommend it, you'd be missing range

#

and purg mostly does the same thing

#

but also damage

robust sierra
#

that's the flame staff right

bleak tulip
#

yes

hybrid notch
#

Purg?

robust sierra
#

yeah I didn't say that

strong gulch
#

There are multiple ways to access soulblaze. Creeping flames can be used to pair with smite. Not my prefereance but people have been enjoying it.

robust sierra
#

I meant running soulblaze talents

bleak tulip
#

well you ideally run soulblaze with everything because perilous is goated

bleak tulip
robust sierra
#

oh I see

bleak tulip
#

you basically always wanna run this when running shriek, and you wanna run periloud combustion on literally every build

robust sierra
#

so with smite is it better to run that in stead of the shield

strong gulch
#

Yup that. At high peril, you hit your ability to quell and apply a good amount of soulblaze.

robust sierra
bleak tulip
#

I guess maybe you wouldnt run PC on a gunker build since you wouldnt take soulstealer? but yeah besides

robust sierra
#

ok thanks

strong gulch
#

Near the top. a must imo

open stratus
#

Is what I'm currently running. Surge to kill elites, gain stacks, smite to clear hordes with the wildfire going.

#

And you gain toughness every way imaginable so you pretty much don't die

strong gulch
robust sierra
#

here I'll show you the (half assed) builds I just made on reading through the bare minimum of the tree, I made that assail one when I was leveling my psyker and the smite one just now

#

there's the assail one

#

let me find the smite one I just made

strong gulch
#

I personally prefer BB with that surge + creeping flames. That way I still have CC but I also have easy long range.

robust sierra
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these are PROBABLY shit

ornate hamlet
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I think that uh

strong gulch
ornate hamlet
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dueling sword, revolver and right tree

robust sierra
strong gulch
ornate hamlet
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except for assail

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I grab smite because I like playing the game

robust sierra
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so wait why would you run that if you're running smite, which is lightning

ornate hamlet
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Smite is CC

robust sierra
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I think you can tell I rarely play psyker lol

ornate hamlet
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Surge staff is the funny damage

robust sierra
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I see

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so surge is better for elites

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what about purge, the one that shoots the single blast

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that's good for elites and crushers right

ornate hamlet
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With smite you can also swap, left-click and go back to your weapon

open stratus
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voidstrike is the single blaster orb

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purge is firestaff

robust sierra
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voidstrike is what I meant

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god it's hard to remember

ornate hamlet
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Smite makes it incredibly easy to open bulwark shields and pretty much stop any enemy

soft notch
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voidstrike is still the elite killer imo

olive ember
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just say what the staff does

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so bowling ball staff

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lightning staff

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fire staff

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explosion staff

ornate hamlet
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See dog? G, LMB, swap back

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See trapper? G, LMB, swap back

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Don't even need to hold, just legit click and swap back

robust sierra
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I see

soft notch
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or just hold lmb with voidstrike ๐Ÿ˜†

ornate hamlet
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Smite does have some fucky jumping and autotargeting at times tho

robust sierra
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so what do you think about the two builds I have then, what can I alter to make them better

ornate hamlet
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I got killed by a reaper today because somehow smite didn't want to jump its RMB to the second and only enemies on my screen

strong gulch
strong gulch
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Purg is fine but it's also been left behind a bit. It is GREAT at hordes but enemies have been buffed. The stagger is not as strong and it struggles in mixed hordes. So you need something to handle carapace.

robust sierra
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okay

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so with my smite build do you think void is good as a backup? cause I'm using smite for cc

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and what is the best blessings/perks to put on void staff, as well as the force swords

ornate hamlet
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Void is cracked rn

robust sierra
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yeah I think I'll run it

strong gulch
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If you're using void, that's generally your main. Smite seems fine. Void has decent CC.