#psyker-class

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dim parrot
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surge KEKW_ogryn

toxic forge
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Surge staff?

still hearth
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It's a funny bug

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Try it out

dim parrot
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im soooo addicted to surge rn its not funny....

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this is your fault vanessa! Sitgryn

still hearth
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You'll feel great when they fix the bug

dim parrot
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lmao yee probably the only way to stop me

radiant lance
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Is the Surge even worth using without the bug

dim parrot
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its fine without

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but void stronger

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with bug its seems that it can be in similar place to void

umbral rivet
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loving the community so far

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do people just hate pyskers or?

dim parrot
toxic forge
dim parrot
umbral rivet
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3 bar

toxic forge
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Ah see thats the problem

still hearth
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I've never seen that

toxic forge
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Most people that play malice aren't human

umbral rivet
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ive rezzed them both, not once did they attempt to rez anyone else

toxic forge
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like actually

still hearth
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Auric players tend to be okay

toxic forge
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People in Malice have bigger egos than the average auric maelstrom player

bleak tulip
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even if theyre shittalking they usually are bright enough to realize having a 4th person is better lmao

toxic forge
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when theyr'e ass

umbral rivet
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legit, only just recently picked up the game, waiting to see if they lose or not

dim parrot
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some humans man

toxic forge
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I've only had one toxic person in damnation this whole year, every time I play malice I want to put my head through a brick wall

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because they're not human

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Like all im doing is speed running for a weekly cause im tired if im on malice

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and it's always some dude with an ego or an attitude

umbral rivet
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Ill be honest, first game i had someone take me under there wing and show me how to

toxic forge
umbral rivet
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This is the next day tho

dim parrot
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haven't really met a lot of toxic people so far, the most toxic was when someone tried 2 barrel me and ended up barreling himself lmao

umbral rivet
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I could name and shame them, but that would feel like a dick move so ive only shown their in game name since its seperate from their acc

dim parrot
umbral rivet
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Either way ima enjoy the next 10 minutes of browsing twitter, getting free stuff from them and then to have them inevaitably brag at the end

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update on how that went btw

dim parrot
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he the dude that flamed u?

umbral rivet
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And they raged hahahah

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Yup

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Both of them ignore i and the other player

dim parrot
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yessir KEKW_ogryn

toxic forge
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Dying on malice

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could not be me

umbral rivet
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And they imediantly raged after

dim parrot
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karma lmao

umbral rivet
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Didnt even get anything in other than a lmao at them

grave yarrow
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with the "kill a boss with 90% brain burst damage", is it bugged where the upgraded version doesnt work for it?

strong gulch
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This is why you don't do thing when you're tired.

I thought both perks were open for some reason. Went to change them only to realize that I could only change 1 AFTER refining. So now I get crit damage now.

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Brick yourself

grave yarrow
toxic forge
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so whats the point in taking smite if surge staff is in the game

queen fog
strong gulch
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more targets and CC and can be taken with non warp or cc weapons

queen fog
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If u miss the EP inf smite just say so KEKW_ogryn

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I know I do but is still fun

strong gulch
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Didn't use the infinite smite.

queen fog
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Not u potato man, the guy questioning why to use smite if surge exists

toxic forge
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I mean i never used smite

strong gulch
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gotcha

toxic forge
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I really didnt play psyker last patch bc it was braindead broken

queen fog
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Sounds like a missed opportunity Sitgryn

rotund dagger
late yew
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What this does to psyker stuff?

wooden flare
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So the passive effect of Warp Rider, does that mean I deal more damage at high peril or take more damage?

severe helm
wooden flare
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So it’s pretty neato

queen fog
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yea is just a flat damage boost to everything

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warp rider awesome

plucky flax
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Real gs know it is called warp unleashed.

severe helm
toxic forge
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is bloodthirsty even good

strong gulch
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Not really.

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You use the special on illisi more, and even on there it's not great.

gleaming belfry
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hello psyker experts. is there a t4 blessing of blazing sun for voidstrike or is t3 blazing sun max?

lament zealot
hollow spindle
lament zealot
plucky solar
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Are there any good guides that go over the different staffs and what blessings are good with them?

viral solstice
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thats the FUTURE

viral solstice
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@lethal folio the build has escaped containment, i repeat

lethal folio
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turbostaff

lament zealot
lethal folio
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Surge+nexus on trauma so you have turbo bolts and shockwave to handle infinite melee.

potent echo
plucky solar
late yew
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Purgatus + assail

lament zealot
late yew
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good combo

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Assail for shooters and specialists

lethal folio
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And surge misses doubleshots

late yew
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fires for everything else

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oh lmao

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i did not notice that i killed 69 ranged elites

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wtf, so many

lament zealot
tidal elm
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Is no warp charge buffed BB strong enough to one shot the non armored enemies now? Stuff like bursters and ragers.

eager spruce
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get this one for the Warp Nexus 4 or is that not needed on Voidstrike Staff?

elder jackal
olive ember
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If you wanna do nexus + surge you prob want nexus 4

eager spruce
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Just starting out with psyker, what is surge?

olive ember
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Surge blessing, on crit fire 2 balls

zenith cosmos
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just started using a surge

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isk what build but its niceee

olive ember
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There’s also surge staff

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Fatshark naming conventions are 10/10

eager spruce
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Used to play Zealot, psyker melts my brain. xD

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Want to get my hands on a good staff now that I am 30, any suggestions then?

frank moat
zenith cosmos
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im using asdsail build with a surge staff and tbh its kinda nuts

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assail

eager spruce
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surge staff does what? fire lightning or fire fire?

olive ember
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it fires lightning

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pretty nice rn with the bug

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without the bug kinda weak imo

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tho some people think its super strong

elder jackal
zenith cosmos
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what bug

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i have been 30 just grabbed a surge whats the bug i wanna try it

olive ember
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if you take empowered psionics surge staff gets +125% damage that should be affecting smite

cold oasis
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Honestly, i tried that bug today

olive ember
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because surge staff rmb is counted as the same thing as smite in code or something like taht

cold oasis
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It felt like a usual game KEKW_ogryn

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I honestly saw pretty much no difference whatsoever

zenith cosmos
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i have empowered bc my assail is that why its doing so much damage ??

cold oasis
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Actually, that's not true, i was killing non-armored trash enemies a tad faster

olive ember
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double damage means breakpoints change so a bunch of two shots become one shots

olive ember
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without the bug expect a bunch of one shots to turn into two shots if you aren't lucky and getting crits

zenith cosmos
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hmmm

olive ember
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crushers are 3 shots, maulers are also 3 shots, ragers are 2(?) shots

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gunners are 2 shots

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dogs are 2 shots

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etc. etc.

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I might be off on some of these breakpoints actually

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lemme check

elder jackal
olive ember
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it also relies on warp charges to hit breakpoints

frank moat
olive ember
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you definitely are not killing a boss with 3 charges of surge staff

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thats a lie lmao

cold oasis
zenith cosmos
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so what is needed perks to run with surge

cold oasis
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It's just EP

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but really, i did not see a difference KEKW_ogryn

olive ember
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if you use the surge bug then flak isn't needed

cyan notch
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flakiacding

olive ember
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tho i expect the bug to be patched

cold oasis
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oh for sure

zenith cosmos
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ok

cold oasis
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but really, it wasn't as noticeable as other stuff really

zenith cosmos
plucky flax
zenith cosmos
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just ran my first surge staff with this

lament zealot
olive ember
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btw @eager spruce this is my current voidstrike

zenith cosmos
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build and ya 3 shots was exploding the big ogryn sheidl

olive ember
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notice the surge blessings not to be confused with surge staff

zenith cosmos
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shield boysd

zenith cosmos
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seems OP like the big ogryn shield boys stagger on the first hit then 3rd they explode

olive ember
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looks about right yeah

zenith cosmos
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should i swap a perk

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to make it even better lol

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ya and when my peril is up i just shoot it out and light them on fire

cold oasis
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Crit is nice, but i feel you need better perks over blessing

zenith cosmos
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im new as of like 3 weeks to this game so idk much

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about changing those

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i need to rip a blessing from another spot to re bless right

cold oasis
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ye

olive ember
# zenith cosmos

swap out terrifying barrage for warp nexus, get rid of weakspot damage

zenith cosmos
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i have a ton of staffs what should i look for?

cold oasis
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and i'm pretty sure staff are each their own

olive ember
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infested is also not good but weakspot damage is literally useless unless you primarily use the lmb

cold oasis
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so surge can get only from surge ettc

zenith cosmos
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i rolled like 20

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so i have a ton sitting do i have to upgrade them all

cold oasis
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oh, just crit

zenith cosmos
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to then steal

cold oasis
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it's the only decent one

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Warp Nexus and Warp Flurry (that you got)

olive ember
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yeah i'm hoping they buff surge staff

zenith cosmos
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so i need to what upgrade a white

olive ember
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once they remove the bug

zenith cosmos
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surge

meager eagle
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whats bugged about surge rn?

zenith cosmos
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to get blessings hope for a good one

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then snag it off

cold oasis
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pretty much, or get it from the daily vendor

zenith cosmos
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what is it im looking for blessing wise

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and the weak spot damage

olive ember
zenith cosmos
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perk

meager eagle
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oooohhh my gawd

zenith cosmos
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needs to change to what

meager eagle
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that explains so fucking much actually lmao

olive ember
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also gets affected by the +1 target cap and 10% more damage to enemies hit from the smite upgrades

meager eagle
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oh man surge is gonna feel like ass when they fix it

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ive been having so much fun with it 2 shotting crushers in auric maelstrom

olive ember
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basically the surge rmb in code or wte is considered the same attack type as smite

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eh

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surge without bug is weak

zenith cosmos
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what perk shoudl replace

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ranked weak

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spot im doing that first

olive ember
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weakspot almost certainly

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surge staff doesn't hit weakspot

zenith cosmos
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ya what should i swap it for

olive ember
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and even on weapons that do weakspot is considered a trash perk because of how the math works

zenith cosmos
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im in the menu

olive ember
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flak maniac or unyielding

late yew
olive ember
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probably flak

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if you aren't using the bug probably flak

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if you are using the bug maniac or unyielding

late yew
zenith cosmos
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im using empowered

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bug

late yew
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Also recommend Numeric UI mod

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and Enemy Health bars

olive ember
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probably maniac or unyielding, and then when the bug gets removed just swap that perk back to flak

elder jackal
late yew
plucky flax
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Assail and balanced? Xd

olive ember
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tho I am really hoping they just buff surge damage by like +100% when they remove the bug

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

zenith cosmos
zenith cosmos
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and rip off terrifying barrage?

frank moat
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I’m having way more fun that I expected with bugged Surge staff

zenith cosmos
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from it and replace it with what

olive ember
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swap terrifying barrage for warp nexus

empty swan
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is this a good sword ?

olive ember
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this is what I've run for a while now

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if I actually used surge I would swap the crit chance for something else

frank moat
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It was kinda meh at patch 13 launch, okay damage but way too slow for how many elites you get on higher difficulty

olive ember
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but the blessings are still what you want

late yew
zenith cosmos
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so i have flurry so im going to upgrade

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random staffs surge ones right not voids it has to be a surge

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and rip hopefully warp nexus off

olive ember
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it has to be surge

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because all the staffs are in their own weapon family or wte

elder jackal
empty swan
olive ember
empty swan
zenith cosmos
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2nd try got warp nexus

olive ember
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blessings and perks are both bad

empty swan
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only blessings can be replaced or perks too? sry im new

olive ember
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you can choose 2 from the 4

meager eagle
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you can replace 2

zenith cosmos
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mint

olive ember
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not bad not bad

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yeah that will prob be decent until you get a god roll

empty swan
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so is it worth getting the sword and trying to replace perks and bleing?

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blessings*

olive ember
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assuming you want to spend the mats to god roll a surge staff

olive ember
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it depends on the player

empty swan
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mats?

olive ember
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its no god roll weapon but if you have literally nothing good it will serve until you find one

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materials*

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crafting materials specifically

empty swan
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about 3k-4k each material

olive ember
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eh I would skip it tbh, but I'm talking from the perspective of a player who already has his base kit and would literally be rolling for min maxing

empty swan
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how do I get a 530 rating item?

near wyvern
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Unstable gets knocked down to A and Slaughterer will get bumped to S

olive ember
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G2k

olive ember
primal aurora
olive ember
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If you want a high rating your best bet is to sit there at brunt’s armory and roll for a good base rating grey and then go to hadron and pray she doesn’t brick it

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Which is literally just

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Rng at brunt’s

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And then rng at hadron

late yew
olive ember
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Rng on rng

near wyvern
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It stacks MULTIPLICATIVELY with power

late yew
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or if you mean Vortex, then no

near wyvern
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And it stacks multiplicatively with all + armour type perks (except unarmoured and infested)

empty swan
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can u guys link me a good page to check best stats/perks/blessings for psyker

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or all classes

late yew
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I don't know if it exists?

near wyvern
late yew
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But it is not that difficult

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for most weapons best blesings are the same

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for psyker that is

near wyvern
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Yeah there are some minor changes

primal aurora
near wyvern
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And some of the meta weapons have changed

near wyvern
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It's for sustained damage

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Deimos hit like a truck already, which is why Unstable Power will get knocked down to A and Slaughterer will get to S

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It's piss easy to reach mutant one shot with Deimos now as long as you have +maniac perk and are using warp rider talent

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At 0% peril

primal aurora
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Sustained damage you mean fighting bosses or big units like crushers?

near wyvern
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You stack those 5 uncanny strikes and 5 Slaughterer stacks up and you one shot almost all the things in the game, and those that don't are two H2 and done, except monstrosities of course.

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Do note that H2 also knocks things down now.

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So if it doesn't kill it sends them flying

primal aurora
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Ah, well, it is just theoretical for me. I prefer Illisi

near wyvern
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Illisi is also really good with uncanny strike + slaughterer

primal aurora
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Not with my aim. I use deflector or just bloodthirsty

near wyvern
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You should consider running slaughterer + deflector then

meager eagle
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how decent is this?

near wyvern
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But If it's the best one you have, get it to orange and we will see what it becomes

meager eagle
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i can probably get a better one

olive ember
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the 2nd one is pretty good

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warp res is basically useless cuz you don't use the special on deimos alot

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mobility is dump stat

near wyvern
meager eagle
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hell yeah

near wyvern
olive ember
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eh mobility is also dump

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but

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once they make deimos special good all the warp res dumpers are gonna cry

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trust me

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one day deimos special won't be useless

near wyvern
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Yeah mobi is not that important but if you get to choose you drop warp resist, heck I would even take negative warp resist on my Deimos so I could pump up the other stats KEKW_ogryn

olive ember
meager eagle
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thanks hadron ..

near wyvern
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Due to the H2 knock down keeping up Exorist & Executioner is almost impossible

olive ember
twin vault
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Anyone available to help me try Malleus Monstronum? Need to kill a preferably Daemonhost on malice with 90% brain burst.

Ideally need a shield ogryn to hold its aggro and 2 others to handle horde control 🙏🙏

near wyvern
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So I would swap Exorcist into Slaughterer or Uncanny Strike depending on your needs and block eff or infested into maniac

meager eagle
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alrighty

near wyvern
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Slaughter is better as a horde killer and Uncanny Strike makes Crushers a joke

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And also increases your boss damage

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So Slaughter with block eff into maniac or Uncanny Strike with infested into maniac

meager eagle
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is tier 3 uncanny fine or should i try for tier 4

olive ember
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i mean if you can obviously try for t4

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but if you roll a t3 uncanny I think its aight

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imo

meager eagle
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cool cool

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running a bit low on plasteel

west fjord
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Trying to sort this out, what the best options to replace rampage? Not sure between shred or riposte

plucky flax
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I've been using uncanny and rampage with my assail revolver build.

steel flame
viral solstice
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so very hard to beat

near wyvern
near wyvern
steel flame
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Well shit

west fjord
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Guess I'll just fix the stam on it and good to go then

steel flame
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I do plan on hunting for shred 4 at some point

frank fulcrum
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thoughts?

viral solstice
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unless you mean the effect soft caps over 1.0 adm

acoustic spade
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Does Surge Staff have like a minimum damage rating that allows it to reach some break points or something?

near wyvern
dim parrot
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bio lodestone or overpowering souls for surg bug build?

acoustic spade
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thinking if this Grey is worth upgrading or not

near wyvern
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Brittleness and Rending cap at +100%

viral solstice
restive slate
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Is gun psyker build still viable considering nerfed assail?

steel flame
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.....

dim parrot
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assail still good

acoustic spade
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if you have a good gun, why wouldnt it be

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it depends more on your gun than anything else

dim parrot
near wyvern
steel flame
frank fulcrum
viral solstice
restive slate
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What gun is suggested?

near wyvern
thorn cedar
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@spice veldt there's a le reddit post on disrupt destiny dunno if u wanna toss your own two cents into it

near wyvern
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Rending part is already up to date

thorn cedar
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decent post worth engaging imo

steel flame
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I prefer laspistol

restive slate
steel flame
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Stupid good with dumdum and infernus

viral solstice
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oh for fucks sake they pushed that again

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ok good ill have to bug report that

thorn cedar
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which bug lol

restive slate
thorn cedar
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give us default run n gun for laspistol again 😠

acoustic spade
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Infernus working on Assail?

steel flame
viral solstice
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is an improvement overall but its one of the many silent things that changed

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like the bolter version

thorn cedar
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scripting is hard

viral solstice
# near wyvern 14

just to confirm for anybody who saw me disagreeing but not the earlier part - this is correct

steel flame
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My screen cap of my sword is outdated

hollow spindle
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Thoughts?

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I don't have a surge staff yet

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on my psyker

twin vault
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Anyone available to help me try Malleus Monstronum? Need to kill a preferably Daemonhost on heresy with 90% brain burst.

Ideally need a shield ogryn to hold its aggro and 2 others to handle horde control 🙏🙏

olive ember
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psure its heresy or above

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unless they changed that

twin vault
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Edited, thanks

marble locust
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So what to change to?

summer prairie
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ranged crit to crit%, run 'n' gun to warp nexus and it's the best you are going to get

olive ember
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and you basically have a god roll purge staff

marble locust
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I got to find Warp Nexus 4 but it goes well with other two. I think Darktide is trying to tell me to be a psyker main.

quasi junco
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hello, what should I change?

shell igloo
still hearth
quasi junco
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ty, now to find a weapon that has warp flurry on it lol

summer prairie
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nothing to see here

quasi junco
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lol on first try

bronze hound
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Is this worth buying from Melk's?

wanton sandal
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too low of blast radius to be worth it

marble locust
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70+ for Blast radius

wanton sandal
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unless u want transfer peril

marble locust
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same for damage the rest isn't as important

bronze hound
marble locust
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Generally Surge and Warp Nexus is what you want

wanton sandal
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i quite liek it

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gives more sustain

marble locust
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With the rights talents and horde you'll quell just from the 10% chance on kills

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Surge Warp Nexus just goes BRRRR on hordes

bronze hound
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I'm currently going surge staff with warp nexus and mmmm can't remember

plucky token
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Psyker Meta rn:

bronze hound
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lol, definitely

marble locust
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Psyker has an odd "Warp Knight" build that uses Scryer's Gaze to go Melee monster

bronze hound
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Gotta love the shield tho

marble locust
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Basically taking all the - peril, and Coold down reduction they can and they can then constantly keep it up. 10% more damage, 20% crit 20% toughness damage reduction and 20% move faster, almost always up during fights.

bronze hound
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what melee wepaon?

marble locust
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Warp sword with Exorcist

bronze hound
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Illisi? Deimos?

marble locust
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If you weakspot hit alot between talents and the blessing it will keep it down, the issue that is a learning curve is pushing can make you explode

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Deimos is for elite hunting hordes Illisi works better.

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Either it works on

bronze hound
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I don't really like Deimos. Even for elite hunting

marble locust
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The light stab heavy stab is great for headshots.

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Light->Heavy and it can keep shred up doing that short combo

harsh urchin
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scrier's is just bad rn lol

viral solstice
harsh urchin
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the cd not starting until the skill ends

viral solstice
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gottem

harsh urchin
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makes it awful just like patch13 exe

viral solstice
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its good because maybe it forces them to remove the mandatory warp charge dump on f from the node

harsh urchin
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maybe

viral solstice
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5 dimensional chess

harsh urchin
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the mandatory dump is insane lol

viral solstice
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then it gets a normal cooldown AND warp charges aren't annoying

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🙂

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poopoo charges...

harsh urchin
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tldr take ur pick

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24% dmg or F skill

marble locust
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They need to change it as well as the Vet's Stance ablity

summer prairie
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more overkill dmg or useful things

marble locust
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Overkill is useless

summer prairie
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yeah that's what warp charge dmg does most of the time

marble locust
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Depends on spec. It helps reach breakpoints on specific mobs

viral solstice
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imagine if it was a thing u could... choose

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crazy

near wyvern
# bronze hound Illisi? Deimos?

Illisi is the sword you can consider with Exorcist. You absolutely need those purely horizontal strikes to avoid hitting bodies.

Exorcist and Executor reset on a body hit, this includes cleaving through a weakspot and hitting another unit to the body with the same strike, which makes it unsuitable for Deimos light spam. Deimos H2 knocks targets down if it doesn't kill so also not great for L1H2 spam.

viral solstice
summer prairie
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how about no

marble locust
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Exorcist just drops peril

summer prairie
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they need to rethink the whole thing if they go back to letting people just get 24% dmg for free. Like what makes it different from DD once that is also free damage stacks

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I guess it would be warp charges for finesse weapons

viral solstice
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they could do all kinds of interesting things couldn't they

near wyvern
viral solstice
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but anyway as they say in the business, we will see

near wyvern
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Correction that was for scrier 4k+

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You can reach even more with DD

dark stag
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what is the highest level of delfector that a force sword can have?

dark stag
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Would 3 be alr if I wanna use it for like damnation/auric runs?

summer prairie
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esentially no difference betwen 3 and 4

dark stag
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really?

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what is it like 2-3%?

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is this good?

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idk how important warp resist is

marble locust
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Eh, stats are ok for what ilevel it is

near wyvern
dark stag
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alr

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What should I be aiming for in a god staff?

near wyvern
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Warp resist is pretty important on Surge, it's the crit bonus that is not that important

near wyvern
marble locust
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God's are just luck just find a high base level with decent stats, and pray to hadron

near wyvern
dark stag
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yeeee

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Mine is close to that but the warp res is ass

orchid shadow
dark stag
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I thought Surge staff likes to crit tho, so why is crit bonus bad?

primal aurora
#

Run n gun is fun now with fast primary fire ?

marble locust
#

I've never used it it just shown up in the Melk's and I reblessed it.

near wyvern
# orchid shadow Wouldn't crit bonus still be desirable since it hits so hard now? Even without ...

It's not that much of a difference per cast, the stat also doesn't scale that amazingly with the percentages. Crits are inconsistent damage it's more of a nice bonus.

Surge is one of the most peril hungry weapons, quell speed and warp resist are very important on it compared to other staves.

You might even consider running Mind in Motion if you go all in on the Surge usage just because you will spend 50% of the time quelling.

bronze hound
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This is my surge staff

dark stag
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380 mods pogryn

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I guess I'll earn the warp flurry 4 and go back to rolling xd

still hearth
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I think the big thing with Surge is that it spams so fast so it uses a lot of peril that way

marble locust
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It doesn't need to be a 380 anything around 365+ is good if the stats roll right.

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380 just makes it most likely to be useable and decent even if they are bad rolls.

bronze hound
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Btw, should I change the unyielding perk?

marble locust
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Unyeilding is bosses and 2 orgyns

near wyvern
# primal aurora Run n gun is fun now with fast primary fire ?
  1. Last time I checked it was very clunky, you gotta start sprinting first, you cannot enter sprint during LMB spam

  2. Quell Cancel makes that LMB fire at almost double the rate, can't do that while sprinting

  3. If you absolutely need to interrupt an enemy while sprinting, you can sprint slide and quell cancel a single LMB during the spring slide to retain momentum, essentially working like Run N Gun the blessing, but for single fire per slide of course.

marble locust
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and one other mob I forgot the other one

still hearth
#

Comparing the cost for the staves I get basically the same amount of uses for Surge, Void and Trauma

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But Surge casts are considerably faster

bronze hound
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Savd my ass last night against plagued ogryn + bulwarks tho

marble locust
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Bulwarks you can dodge around and Deimos warp attack kill them if you have one

near wyvern
bronze hound
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What should I aim for then?

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crit chance maybe?

near wyvern
marble locust
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It stuns the bulwarks

near wyvern
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Half the enemies in the game are flak

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OR

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Since you probably one shot them with EP go with carapace

long wharf
near wyvern
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So bug abuse go carapace, no bug abuse go flak

dark stag
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which one should I use between the 2? (it's the 2 best I got atm)

dark stag
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alr

reef island
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I'm having a brainfart, is uncanny strike fine or do I need to swap it to something else?

near wyvern
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Peril gets intense with Surge

reef island
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oh sweeeeet

dark stag
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What perks do I want in da surge? Flak + Maniac?

reef island
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I try to use the favorite mod to color code when a weapons near perfect, need to just change this one

near wyvern
dark stag
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alr

near wyvern
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The bug will be patched out so if it's your only good staff don't rely on bugs

near wyvern
reef island
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and you said crit bonus was the dump for surge?

near wyvern
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Also Smite +1 targets applies to Surge RMB but that's more of additional CC than damage

long wharf
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no

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you want crit bonus

frank fulcrum
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EP Smite just be buggy

near wyvern
dark stag
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Should I keep perfect timing or replace it with something else?

reef island
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this is what Im workin with, the crit perk makes me sad but Im broke rn

near wyvern
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Warp resist and quell speed are much more important

long wharf
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what are the number ranges on crit bonus?

reef island
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that what you wanted?

near wyvern
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Given how critical damage is calculated it's bad

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Crit chance is there yeah but as long as you don't have super low crit bonus it's fine

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Basically with surge you want flat stats

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Like having them all equal is very fine

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Since they changed the surge staff to be a fast charging MF you spend 50% of your time quelling

long wharf
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yeah, you definitely quell a lot

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but that's also what +30% quell speed node is for

near wyvern
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Yes

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And Battle Meditation doesn't hurt

harsh urchin
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i took it off

near wyvern
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And warp resist definitely doesn't hurt

harsh urchin
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cuz it's only 10% chance for 10%

summer prairie
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battle meditation seems very bad for a weapon that doesn't kill multilpe targets

harsh urchin
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wasn't feeling it being impactful on surge

summer prairie
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maybe you get value with venting shriek sb kills

long wharf
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yeah, Battle Meditation doesn't feel very good when you aren't killing multiple enemies in rapid succession

near wyvern
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It's not amazing but depends on build if you can easily afford it or not

near wyvern
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Regardless if you pick Baffle Meditation or not

summer prairie
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?

near wyvern
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Creeping Flames is ton of damage = ton of value

summer prairie
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well obviously

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I was talking about value for picking battle meditaiton

long wharf
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yeah, Creeping Flames is much better than the old perk was

scenic crescent
#

is there a way to figure out what mission i need to finish a penace?

dark stag
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With warp charges and venting shriek do you wanna spam the shriek or do you wanna hold onto your charges as much as possible?

near wyvern
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And you get the peril cost reduction for hitting many targets with venting shreik as well cause you have to take it to get to creeping flames

summer prairie
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creeping flames is basically +30% damage if not more

harsh urchin
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you dont take wc

near wyvern
harsh urchin
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if you want to bug abuse

scenic crescent
near wyvern
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For void build I never give up my stacks so the ult doesn't matter

dark stag
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Smite + surge staff

long wharf
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search on Nexus Mods for "penance details", I think

near wyvern
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For smite + creeping flames build I always spend the warp charges

marble locust
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Yeah Voidstaff, I never do anything bud Charge attack

scenic crescent
twin vault
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Anyone available to help me try Malleus Monstronum? Need to kill a preferably Daemonhost on heresy with 90% brain burst.

Ideally need a shield ogryn to hold its aggro and 2 others to handle horde control 🙏🙏

near wyvern
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Meh, I did it old school paper and pen tracking

summer prairie
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@dark stag holding onto the charges is almost never worth the dps loss from not using venting shriek, not to mention the other benefits

marble locust
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Why a Demon host?

marble locust
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That Pennance is such trash

twin vault
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I know 😦 I just want the sick robe lol

long wharf
near wyvern
marble locust
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I assume in tha specific color scheme?

dark stag
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is the 66% dmg acceptable here?

twin vault
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Yeah the black and red looks sick

near wyvern
long wharf
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with only sticks and rocks... and we had to share the sticks

gray sky
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Do psykers call each other sibling in game?

dark stag
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^yes

near wyvern
marble locust
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Yes

gray sky
dark stag
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if it was 70% would it be alr?

near wyvern
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Yes

gray sky
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Also what’s the accent for the psyker? I heard one I thought was French or Russian but idk

near wyvern
#

70-75 all good

dark stag
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I'll keep rolling, one day I'll get it

marble locust
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There is also a line about Melk giving strange peircings to people who are unconsience if you are the German Psyker

twin vault
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One I use is definitely german

marble locust
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Under the belt peircings

gray sky
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wanted to make a French female psyker

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I was between female psyker or female zealot

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Prob not gonna make any female tho

marble locust
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Honestly the Female Beloved, and the Female Irish/scottish whichever it is, is the two most annoying voice in the game I find.

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I don't know why but they grate on my ears.

near wyvern
fresh reef
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What's psyker's best weapon/build for dealing with bosses as of patch 14?

marble locust
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@dark stag I have like 160 mission on my psyker and have 3 great staves and a perfect sword, on my other characters I have 0 and I have over 200 matches on each of them. It's Rng buddy, don't hold out hope on finding what you want.

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Those are successful Damnation ones.

near wyvern
harsh urchin
near wyvern
near wyvern
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Dumdum infernus laspistol with +25 unyielding and scrier's gaze top upgrade gets 4k+ sustained DPS including reloads

fresh reef
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I'm averaging 90 seconds with melee

near wyvern
olive ember
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Also how’s the mg Ia

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Heard some good things about it a patch back

near wyvern
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With Dumdum infernus laspistol

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So yeah melee is not even in the same league here

marble locust
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Fleshbag has the least health

near wyvern
orchid shadow
harsh urchin
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LOL

near wyvern
near wyvern
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Nothing to laugh about it

olive ember
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I’m thinking about running a laspistol claw psyker

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But ngl at that point maybe I should just be playing vet lmao

harsh urchin
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and vet one taps all elites

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but also has useful ammo aura

near wyvern
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Melee is still far away

fresh reef
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Averages around 45k

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P. Ogryn I think has 56k

near wyvern
#

Double 15 seconds and it's still a third from the melee time

twin vault
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Need 2 more for Malleous Monstronum, got the tank Ogryn

dark stag
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Should I get this and see if it upgrades well?

lethal folio
#

Columnus Psyker is really good.

copper torrent
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Are you using assail for horde clear? Can you post your build, I wana try.

lethal folio
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I hit them with my sword.

lethal folio
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Just a full rightside psyker tree really

copper torrent
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What's your Columnus look like?

lethal folio
copper torrent
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cheers, thank you.

tender pagoda
#

Can I have a short advice on force swords? Are they good. Which one's better (and at what)?

plucky flax
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Yes veri gud

strong gulch
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I think hadron hates me. Like, it's personal.

modest kernel
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hey al

near wyvern
# tender pagoda Can I have a short advice on force swords? Are they good. Which one's better (an...

Yes they are good, very good defense and offense

Deimos for single targets, Illisi for horde

both like uncanny strike + slaughterer but if you must run with deflector, take slaughterer + deflector for illisi and drop either one for deimos (uncanny increases single target damage, slaughterer increases mixed horde damage)

never use deimos special, L1H2 is the top dog, does more DPS and doesn't stun lock you, illisi special is good against ragers maulers and things like that

for perks, always +maniac +unyeidling for Deimos, always +maniac +flak for illisi

always use warp rider talent for Deimos, any decent Deimos roll with +maniac damage will be able to one shot a mutant head with the second heavy (H2) at 0% peril

modest kernel
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i just started today with psyker any tips ore tings nott to do

near wyvern
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gl with that

strong gulch
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#1 tip

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I do a lot. 🙃

near wyvern
fierce crest
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thats the reason we have the vent penance

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so you learn to blow up

strong gulch
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You can quell btw. That makes the peril go down.

wise pawn
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Anybody have an updated guide for pick n mix penance? Looking for build/tips/strats etc. haven’t played since January

strong gulch
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I'm tired and taking a build I'm not good at. About to have a bad time. 😌

viral solstice
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its simple

orchid shadow
languid tusk
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how is this possible

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1334 damage on crusher

near wyvern
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it's always on

languid tusk
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interesting

torn horizon
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so after more testing when brain burst gets buffed by someone other than you it screws with the meter and makes it not work correctly which then fucks up how it works

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and i think its specifically tided to when the charge rate gets buffed

viral solstice
strong gulch
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rending?

viral solstice
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just quickswap to an uncanny weapon with stacks up

strong gulch
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yee

viral solstice
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potato

strong gulch
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everyday

velvet spear
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anyone dwn to plz help me get malleus monstronum penance? coming up short in the LFG chans

dark stag
#

I'm going to chage barrage to warp nexus, but which perk should I swap out?

lyric burrow
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specialists

dark stag
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To flak or to maniac?

lyric burrow
#

maniac probs surge kinda murders flak anyway

dark stag
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true

strong gulch
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If you're doing the EP thing, I'd choose maniac

dark stag
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I'm doing normal smite with warp battery and surge

strong gulch
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Test your build in the meat grinder tho

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Then you may actually want flak depending on how close to break points you are and what you struggle with the mose.

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most*

dark stag
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alr

viral solstice
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for when hand-cannon goes away

dark stag
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Imma test and see if I one shot flak gunners with it (cuz really those are what I personally care most about)

ancient thicket
#

My psyker brothers, I am trying to complete a Trauma staff build and no matter what I do I cannot roll a Rending Shockwave blessing. I have gone through like 7 transcendant staffs now without getting any level of it. Am I doing something wrong or is this rng hell?

strong gulch
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There's some nodes in the tree that can push damage a bit more here or there, so a perk change may not always be needed

ancient thicket
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This is horrible news

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I guess I'll keep grinding lmao

dark stag
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If I acquire deadly accurate for my psyker's lasguns, will my vet's lasguns also have access to it?

fresh reef
#

what's the dps of 6 stacks SB?

snow coral
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per gun per class

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so surge it just DPS against 1/2 baddies now, yeah?

long wharf
#

Wrong, the answer is Yes

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Blessings are not character specific

west wharf
plucky flax
steel flame
#

Took me ages to find some blessings

plucky flax
#

1.7k damage taken as psyker giga chad.

steel flame
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I love how completely wrong attacks blocked is

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Never counts jack

near wyvern
steel flame
#

Also depends on the weapon you are holding

near wyvern
#

look at that plogryn melt

steel flame
#

Weapon perks and blessings of the weapon you are holding apply to the soulblaze

steel flame
#

You don't like the scrier speed up?

near wyvern
#

speed up?

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you mean movement speed?

steel flame
#

The 20% speed

near wyvern
#

don't need it

steel flame
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Fair

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I like goin fast

near wyvern
#

deimos light spam with uncanny strike + slaughterer doesn't need to go fast, just ram that LMB and all dies

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and if I am out of reach I draw out the laspistol

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for some hipfire pew pew action

steel flame
#

Its also makes for a nice backup GTFO button

near wyvern
#

smite up to 85+ peril, ult and keep smiting (smite will auto quell at 100 and not blow you up, unless you start casting it at 100)

if you are unlucky with battle meditation, quell to 50 and then smite again

by the time you hit 100 peril you should be ready to ult again if needed

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but usually at that point all that is left is a couple funny crushers

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which you can continue to hold in place or finish with your melee (Deimos or Duelling Sword with Uncanny Strike)

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that is if you want to continue horde spamming it

snow coral
near wyvern
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it can also be used just as a utility tool to push away bursters and hold horde / tough enemies briefly in place

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try the build I linked and let go of the bubble for a while, you will be surprised how effective creeping flames + enfeeble is

plucky flax
snow coral
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assail is boring after a few games to me

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What ult are you running? I've been hard pressed to move away from dome

plucky flax
#

Tru but when you quickplay auric like this you get some truly sus teammates.

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I ran the shriek fren.

snow coral
#

yeah, I should move to that because of auric, lol

plucky flax
#

I run shriek for additional horde clear. I do have rampage and uncanny on my sword tho.

near wyvern
#

the only reason to bring a revolver is hand cannon

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there are much better alternatives for it in terms of the actual gun

plucky flax
#

Yeah hand cannon powered assail is op.

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Although the revolver super fast swap is very nice for specials killing.

royal granite
#

idk revolver is stronger than most our staff options

near wyvern
#

try dumdum infernus laspistol

plucky flax
#

It's not as accurate as revolver to kill far away specials.

fresh reef
#

in terms of numbers, Brittleness and Rending are the exact same right?
Like, 5% Brittleness = 5% Rending?

near wyvern
#

no

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5% brittleness = 2.5% rending

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because fatshark decided to 💩 you

mighty locust
left patio
#

Ying yang shark decided to poop me

fresh reef
#

why FatShark

near wyvern
dark stag
near wyvern
#

you have to combine it with healthbars mod to get the health bars

mighty locust
#

oh ok

left patio
#

How does the mk7 do for special killing, is there a better alt if im running assail

near wyvern
#

and charges on soulblaze kills

acoustic osprey
#

isn't 4% still better?

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'cause it's from anything?

near wyvern
#

nah cause you get from kills under soulblaze

fresh reef
#

so checking my math here, if an armor type has no resistance to your damage and you apply Brittleness via rending shockwave, it'd be
8(2.5%)/4 = 5% additional damage

near wyvern
#

10% > 4%

left patio
ancient thicket
# steel flame Took me ages to find some blessings

That’s so annoying man. I new as of update 13 and Darktide has been the only game I’ve played for like 3 weeks. It’s unbelievably fun but I can already tell the crafting is gonna burn me out. I have some great rolls on my Ogryn but getting anything decent on psyker has been impossible

dark stag
#

yes but not all enemies are going to be always soulblazed?

acoustic osprey
#

oh i thought they had to die by soulblaze

plucky flax
steel flame
dark stag
#

Just so I understand it correctly, wildfire says that if any enemy with soulblaze dies, all other enemies will gain as much soulblaze as that enemy had before dying, does that mean if an enemy dies by soulblaze's last stack, the enemies around it won't get any soulblaze?

acoustic osprey
#

does anybody know if this is with Soulblaze itself or death w/ the soulblaze still on target?

copper torrent
#

death while soublaze

near wyvern
dark stag
#

Oh it's bugged?

near wyvern
#

@acoustic osprey you can check Atheneum to see what talents and stuff actually do fatshark fools us all

plucky flax
#

I prefer warp communal even when playing soulblaze build.

near wyvern
#

it's not yet updated to patch 14 but there is tons of info there that hasn't changed

ancient thicket
#

Couple of my friends who got it have said the same thing

harsh urchin
plucky flax
#

Yeah this crafting system make gearing another class such a bitch.

harsh urchin
#

it's not too difficult to get 3 relevant rolls

left patio
#

Yall got an assail build

ancient thicket
#

Oh no I totally get that lol I’m not going for perfect 380s and stuff

harsh urchin
#

4 rolls is just minmaxing

ancient thicket
#

I just can’t even get blessings I want

acoustic osprey
#

oh nice, something similar to ogryn enclyo w/e

harsh urchin
#

how many weapons have you upgraded

full egret
#

for a kinetic deflection build with a force sword, is damage resistance gunner sor stamina regen better?

plucky flax
#

I lost 30k plasteels 2 days ago trying to get surgical t4 for revolver. (I didn't get it)

acoustic osprey
#

oh wait 🥲

harsh urchin
#

generally you can get the blessings you want after pushing 4-5 of that weapon to gold

steel flame
#

It took me six months to find the dumdum 4 blessings for my laspistol

#

That's stupid

plucky flax
harsh urchin
#

IMO they need to make the difficulty of the mission scale the drops

acoustic osprey
harsh urchin
#

the random drops you get at the end of game are always dogshit

acoustic osprey
#

sometimes it feels like i'd have better luck doing surgery for the first time

harsh urchin
#

if they make it so they have higher chance to drop higher quality items with better blessings

ancient thicket
harsh urchin
#

that should fix a lot

plucky flax
#

After my 30k plasteels lost I wasn't even that mad. I was just like "Wow this system is so stupid FS are real geniuses to leave it in the game /s"

steel flame
#

It would be nice if crafting had a pity system if nothing else

acoustic osprey
#

my psyker is the least well equipped, but i can't even find good base weapons

ancient thicket
#

I mean I could be wrong but I think shockwave is rly important for trauma at endgame?

harsh urchin
#

I dont think pity system is needed

acoustic osprey
#

brunt dropped like 50 sub 330s in a row

plucky flax
#

Xxd

harsh urchin
#

just need a way to get the drops

plucky flax
#

Gamble with brunt. Gamble with hadron.

#

Gambling gambling.

harsh urchin
#

there's just no way currently

steel flame
acoustic osprey
#

when you salvage trash..you should get like 50% of resources back

plucky flax
acoustic osprey
#

brunt just buys everyone's trash for 1k and puts it back in the shop for another player 🥹

steel flame
#

Blazing spirit/nexus is another trauma combo that works well

acoustic osprey
#

yeee i like fire trauma

ancient thicket
#

I have blazing spirit and nexus 3 so maybe I gotta try that

steel flame
#

Fyi, blaze only goes to level 3 on staves

ancient thicket
#

Ok very good to know

plucky flax
#

Nexus has lvl 4 tho.

ancient thicket
#

I have tried the other staffs, Purgatus is fun and voidstrike is crazy but a little boring imo. Haven’t used the smite one much

ancient thicket
steel flame
#

Fat shark it too cowardly to give us the earthSHAKING power of 8 stacks of fire on staves

ancient thicket
#

Lol I need more fire

steel flame
#

Laspistol is also fun on psyker

plucky flax
#

True. Give us blazing spirits 4.

#

4 stacks on crit max stack 8 would be based.

viral solstice
#

u know what i want

#

i want blazing spirit on laspistol

#

for psyker only

#

and u can run blazing spirit infernus laspistol psyker

ancient thicket
left patio
#

Is psyker the strongest class?

steel flame
steel flame
stable silo
#

psyker is strungkest for controller

harsh urchin
#

with poison that hits all the one-shot breakpoints for 95% of the enemies

#

so u just run through the map tapping each enemy once

plucky flax
#

Psyker is very strong but right now vet shout is super cracked up op.

harsh urchin
#

and they all die 6 seconds later

#

i'd be down for blazing infernus laspistol psyker if they had dat

steel flame
#

I had a build like that in cyberpunk

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It was fun

#

But yeah I'd love infernus to proc soulblaze rather than fire on psyker, I don't care how little sense it makes

near wyvern
#

make lasguns shoot blue lazors on psyker and use peril as ammo

#

then it could make sense

steel flame
#

I was thinking the same thing

#

Blue lasers were always cooler than red lasers in starwars

near wyvern
#

green da best

steel flame
#

Tru

brazen warren
#

keep in mind that the total differences in final power are quite slim, but making full use of that through out a match differs greatly depending on the user

strong gulch
#

I vote green because green gang.

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Idk what is supposed to be green.

#

oh lasers

steel flame
brazen warren
#

aoe damage or single target?

viral solstice
#

when its active

#

ur muzzle flashes turn blue, going deeper purple with higher peril

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and ur sounds get WARP BOOSTED

#

thats like bass boosting but warpier

dim parrot
dark stag
#

I never knew kinetic deflection was so good, I tanked a demonhost for like 2-3 mins straight

torpid girder
#

Does anyone know how much plasteel it takes to gold an item?

fervent portal
#

Keep Thrust 3 and change the 2 perks or go Thrust 4 + Unyielding?

viral solstice
#

also trickshooter should get stacked by assail

#

its common sense

torpid girder
#

I think i stumbled into a convention

viral solstice
#

emperor feetlover

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i like that ur joining in as best u can

#

very strong silent but supportive friend energy

idle bay
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After playing for two day with EP Surge.. i'm feeling dirty... very dirty.

fervent portal
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Oh wronk class lol sry^^

sick veldt
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which of these is a better spread? aka how valuable is 10% warp res

twin vault
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Whats the go-to weapon for anti-monster and anti-crusher/mauler/bulwark?

viral solstice
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ok im joking but its pretty funny u can stagger him

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otherwise duelling sword 4 is great vs those 3 and one of the best melee options vs monstrosities too

twin vault
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I heard something about a pistol before that does burn damage stacks?

viral solstice
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laspistol with infernus and dumdum is a pretty good problem solver

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won't help much vs crushers tho it will chip them down eventually with crits, but annihilates maulers, decent vs bulwarks, decent vs monsters with some setup

twin vault
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Right now my setup is a voidstrike, force sword, and assail -- The assail is an anti everything but maulers/bulwarks/monsters/crushers so trying to get a weapon that can handily do some damage vs that variety

viral solstice
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if you like force swords just grab an uncanny deimos and you will manhandle crushers too

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knock them around

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knock around bulwarks

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and it looks kinda like a dong so you know

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got that going for it

plucky flax
full egret
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trying my hardest to turn smite intoa primary weapon lol

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if only it could crit

torpid girder
viral solstice
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sometimes it paid off

brittle ivy
viral solstice
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the other thing i tried was purg surge

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and it was a triumph of wishful thinking

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idk at least it looks fun

carmine agate
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Smite shld let u power up medicae station heh

viral solstice
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duoed some aurics with it but thats just the power of friendship

warped sky
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what perks should I get for this?

torpid girder
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I'm actually a little impressed how they went so far alone considering the other 2 people were also zealots

torpid girder
warped sky
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thanks

plucky flax
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On the right hand side of zealot tree you get extra sprint speed, extra stamina.

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You also run faster in stealth.

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So it's truly zoom zoom.

viral solstice
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improved handsomeness

spice veldt
fresh reef
harsh urchin
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you know what i'd like darts reworked into

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rework darts into kerillian javelins

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and i'd be happy

warped sky
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anyone have a brain rupture skill tree for monstrosities?

spice veldt
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i want a quickswap weapon and no more and no less

glossy ember
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fellas, which melee weapon has a parry and is good for crowds

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was it the catachan sword?

harsh urchin
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yes

glossy ember
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thank you

brazen warren
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so many rager spawns recently

fresh reef
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just had my entire team get ledged by a BoN death explosion

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then our vet just says "THIS MAP SUCKS" and promptly disconnects

unborn prawn
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One is a bit of an all rounder, one is more for single target, and another is good at crowd control. The special attack is also different, in the all rounder and single target sword it's a channeled high damage on single enemy, in the CC one is't a high-cleave medium-damage sweep. don't ahve an exact breackdown but you can buy them cheap at brunt's armory and find out

errant axle
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Weak shitty toss at specialist thingies

unborn prawn
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@dark swift

errant axle
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Kerillian javelins are like tree trunks

delicate stratus
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Has anyone figured out a decent Smite build?

unborn prawn
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I get the feeling Smite is supposed to be a way to balance out single target damage builds and make them not useless against hordes, rather than be what you make a build around

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I use it in my Scrier's Gaze/Laspistol/Dueling Sword build and it works well enough

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As for making a whole build around it... not sure if it's possible

delicate stratus
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Hm.

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I was thinking a combination of soulfire/smite would work well, with a focus on lowering CD of shriek as much as possible

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So you CC super hard and DOT everything to death.

dark stag
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is this fixable or just scrap for blessing?

wispy pike
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Smite is nice for paralyzing everything in range

unborn prawn
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Yeah it's good for pinning down Hordes and have you mates kill them, or for stopping Muties/Ragers in their tracks. It's good CC but requires the team to follow up with damage most time

full egret