psyker-class

[lethal lagoon]

Outside of dagger, weakspot damage perk is useless, Even on dagger it struggles lmao

[plucky flax]

You can change both perks to flak and maniac. Or change infested and upgrade flurry to t4.

[modest edge]

im pretty ocmfortable at t3

[teal needle]

I actually wonder if weakspot perk is worth it on a laspistol? That thing feels like 90% of the damage comes from weakspots lol

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

No, as I said, it's the difference, not the actual damage.

Probably not

It's also additive on top of that lmao

I don't know what they were thinking.

[unique mist]

weakspot and crit damage bonuses are horrendous

they only apply to the actual extra weakspot damage

[edgy cedar]

its such an odd change consdering thats not how that works in VT lol

[unique mist]

so it will always be less than the actual % increase in damage

[lethal lagoon]

I wonder if they just made a programming mistake and spent a year refusing to admit it

[edgy cedar]

I mean "refused to admit mistake" so far sums up Darktide

[lethal lagoon]

Still waiting for my 16k aquilis 😦

[unique mist]

you are never getting those aquilas

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah...

[unique mist]

they were meant to incentivise xbox players to buy the game outright instead of just play through gamepass so fatshark gets more money

which is fine for a launch offering

[gilded viper]

Does anyone recall if soulflame counts as warp damage, like for the talent that increases warp damage on crit?

[unique mist]

but should have come with some PC boon too

[unique mist]

yes

[lethal lagoon]

I mean on top of the gamepass money, it just feels like pure greed not to give it to imperial edition PC owners

Soulflame should be warp yes.

[unique mist]

it was only for the first two weeks

[lethal lagoon]

Counts as warp for toughness on kill for sure

[unique mist]

i think its unreasonable to ask for the full amount to all imperial edition owners seeing as the offer isn't available for anyone now past the two week promo

but they should definitely give out something

is Bloodthirsty worth it on force swords?

melk has an illisi with it and wondering if i should pick it up

[lyric burrow]

its not great afaik

but not awful

might be able to make some wacky build with it

might be able to have some amount of synergy with new crit stuff too

[edgy cedar]

Ive just used deflect/unstable

holy fuck I butchered that

me good type

[potent echo]

Might be worth picking up bloodthirsty into your blessing sticker book

You never know if a new FS down the line might synergize with it

[terse saffron]

did all the headhunters get nerfed or only MK3

that stat dump on the forums is borderline unreadable

[spice veldt]

only the mk3

mk7 was essentially sidegraded but surgical works better with it
well, they all got a nerf to their unyielding damage

[frigid sparrow]

I got 76k damage on bosses with soulblaze

[spice veldt]

agri 9 enjoyers rise up

[frigid sparrow]

That's not bad right?

[spice veldt]

looking good

[lunar hollow]

i would say less so sidegraded and moreso made into its own weapon

because before it was like a 3 that made ur hand hurt worse

[terse saffron]

is mk9 in any way comparable to old mk3?

[lunar hollow]

agri headhunter? no

it's ok now, still needs a bit of tuning up unfortunately

[spice veldt]

the mk9 no longer gives you depression when you use it

[lunar hollow]

now its just a case of mild disappointment

[terse saffron]

yeah it was kinda shit even on old invulnerable vet with its hitreg

i'll try to get headhunter DA on it and see if its decent thanks

[fading patrol]

Ran both (mk 3 pre patch 13, mk 7 post), they feel different rn

[potent echo]

Mk7 still needs 2 taps to gunner head

Even crits don't help

[fallow falcon]

Looking for thoughts on how to improve this gun

[plucky flax]

Wait until next patch. The recoil on this gun is quite tough for some reason. While the agri is more manageable.

[spice veldt]

hmm yeah my mk7 only 1-taps dreg gunners at close ranges, but that's not too bad

[lunar hollow]

the power of veteran

the one thing i refuse to do is grind guns on psyker

[spice veldt]

bad class, worse people

[lunar hollow]

ur just mad

that void doesnt have 100 cleave

[spice veldt]

(josho plays it)

[lunar hollow]

😡

[spice veldt]

nuh uh

i would never be jealous

now why don't you give me your plasmagun

[lunar hollow]

u wish u could shit on melee only maelstrom

https://streamable.com/06qr4f

behold

[spice veldt]

bitch

what the fuck

[terse saffron]

lol

[lunar hollow]

the POWER

OF PLASMA

[spice veldt]

psykers truly are the most opppressed

why did they give it 100 cleave

who mistyped the 0

[lunar hollow]

i mean

so the idea is

plasma is unwieldly, has shit ammo pickup efficiency, almost no synergy with scavenger

heat mechanic

so they give it something like this to make it cool with a small damage nudge so that it no longer has the worst sustained dps vs unyielding in the fucking game

[spice veldt]

i suppose its dogshit ammo economy is baked into the weapon

[lunar hollow]

but alas

the plasma has fundamental design problems that should be addressed

like left click having 50 cleave

[spice veldt]

:pleading:

[lunar hollow]

that and the heat mechanic

[lethal lagoon]

I think I finally figured out why BB is pure ass post patch, it punishes you for not 1-shotting an elite. or BB a non elite

[lunar hollow]

in my ideal world u would make the left click an uncharged like

spash attack sorta thing

[lethal lagoon]

EP for BB needs a change

[lunar hollow]

@spice veldt jarvis

tell me how they changed brain rupture

i didnt read that in the patch notes

[spice veldt]

idk i don't pay attention brain burst anymore

peepeee pooopoo

[lunar hollow]

rage

[lethal lagoon]

Like normally if you were far away, you'd just BB spam ranged units? Punished.

BB a boss? punished

BB a crusher at full health? Punished

Game does not want you to BB anything but 1-shotable elites oof

Such a bad design

[terse saffron]

in what way do you feel punished

[lunar hollow]

@spice veldt oh also

mk 6 is better deimos now

[lethal lagoon]

It uses an EP stack for nothing

And gives nothing.

[spice veldt]

you BITCHES

[terse saffron]

oh yeah that sucks

[lethal lagoon]

Low peril gen too, so can't even force push

[spice veldt]

i saw that clip of you on vigil station and owning maulers/crushers

[potent echo]

What do you mean

[lunar hollow]

its like a deimos except the moveset outside of l1h2 is usable

[potent echo]

Peril cost is the same

[spice veldt]

damn fatshark is making me really want to play vet now

[lunar hollow]

bolter is back to usable

surgical is meta

[spice veldt]

yeah i saw that chaos spawn 1 mag dump

[terse saffron]

vet stamina recharge delay makes me want to jump off a ledge

[lunar hollow]

bro

ur livin in the PAST

base charge rate was changed to 1 sec flat

[spice veldt]

i played melee vet back with 1.25s stam regen 😎

[lunar hollow]

and there's two -0.25s recharge delay nodes

[spice veldt]

PSWORD WITH BETTER STAM REGEN AND OWNING CARAPACE

WOOOOOOOOOOOO

[potent echo]

Cavalcade on crit zealot magdumping a boss is pretty crazy

[lunar hollow]

although tbf

[potent echo]

New psword buffs is crazy

[lunar hollow]

if ur playin a real build made by a human being and not a crab

u will only take 1 of those nodes

and have 0.75s regen delay

[terse saffron]

yeah i've seen those but you cant take them both outside of some goofy ahh build

[potent echo]

Push attack lightlight straight up kills one crusher

It's so stupid

[lunar hollow]

although for melee vet ive considered

grabbing a stam curio

for the mk 6

[spice veldt]

good thing i'm not a human being

[half turtle]

i'm confused what you mean by this, doesn't it deal damage to the thing you brain bursted?

[spice veldt]

i'm a fucking insane person who's currently taking thy grenade be swift and both stamina regen nodes

and no one can stop me

[lunar hollow]

TGBS is v funny

[potent echo]

They grenade be swift

[lunar hollow]

yeah

grenade tinkerer gives u stun immunity

[potent echo]

What

[lunar hollow]

why? big fish. large water creature. fat shark. that's why.

[potent echo]

I always thought it was the toughness broken talent

[lunar hollow]

nope

[potent echo]

Shartfart

[lethal lagoon]

Sure, but it wastes an EP stack

[lunar hollow]

mk6 psword is unironically like deimos but cooler now though

[lethal lagoon]

It's just a dumb design

[lunar hollow]

bugged rampage makes it fuckin insane ofc

[potent echo]

Tfw I still can't have normal games because of the amount of psyker on crutches

[half turtle]

is there a way to use EP stacks that doesn't trade it for damage

[frigid sparrow]

Tfw the wall of bulwarks counters your purgatus staff

[half turtle]

also if you burst a gunner, shotgunner, etc you get the stack back automatically

[potent echo]

Don't take EP with brain burst...?

[lethal lagoon]

Right, so you only BB those you can 1 shot

[half turtle]

do assail and smite not consume EP stacks

[lethal lagoon]

Never just ranged units

or anything else

[potent echo]

Just burn the horde beside them

[spice veldt]

spam lmb and guardbreak bulwarks

[half turtle]

oh i see what you're saying

yes BB is very finicky rn 😢

[potent echo]

Lmb will stagger bulwarks if they do a swing too

[frigid briar]

anyone know what's the base crit chance for a purgatus?

[potent echo]

Base crit chance is class wide

Psyker has 7.5....?

Since patch 13

[frigid briar]

class and weapons both have base crits

afaik

[potent echo]

Need to ask pygex

[spice veldt]

most weapons usually have +0% crit chance

[potent echo]

Weapon with increased base crit will reflect it in their stats

I.e. revolver and surge staff

[half turtle]

i think there's like a small list of weapons that have crit modifiers

[frigid briar]

tell that to the knife

[potent echo]

Under critical bonus

[half turtle]

the only ones i can remember are knife laspistol tactical axe and... some lasguns, and then some ogryn weapons have negative modifiers lol

[lunar hollow]

i wonder if psyker has any weapons where you can brute-force open a bulwark shield

like u can with ogryn shovel

[half turtle]

trauma staff

[potent echo]

Ogryn shovel can't really do that anymore

[frigid briar]

melee weapons? nah.

[potent echo]

You need to punch 3 times

[spice veldt]

force sword push-attacks if you spam them

[lethal lagoon]

I mean Voidstrike and Surge just straight up ignore shield

[potent echo]

Force sword push spam but you need maybe 4 or more times

Smite

[lunar hollow]

tbf it was always the case that it was not worth the effort

[potent echo]

Yea just wait for them to swing then punch

[lunar hollow]

baiting a swing is just too fast

[potent echo]

They will fly

[lunar hollow]

for that stuff to matter

unless its literally "press button -> open shield" like bolter or zealot crusher

[potent echo]

And if there's more than 1 bulwark good luck trying to punch the same one in succession and then capitalize on their guard break

I need the sekiro stance broken finisher

[lunar hollow]

WAIT

WHAT THE FUCK

[spice veldt]

what

what happen

[potent echo]

[spice veldt]

rip josho

[lunar hollow]

uh

there has been a revelation

[spice veldt]

what

TELL ME

[potent echo]

They're gone

[thorn cedar]

they got him

[spice veldt]

that bitch

[thorn cedar]

now we'll never know

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/e0nu6a

why is this happening

[potent echo]

How does that work

[lunar hollow]

i DONT KNOW

[spice veldt]

wtf

[potent echo]

Maybe meatgrinder jankiness

[cyan notch]

nice discord notification

[spice veldt]

bulwarks taking Ls

[potent echo]

Maybe turn on AI

[lunar hollow]

yeah it doesnt work when u turn ai on

[spice veldt]

alright good

[potent echo]

Lmao

[lunar hollow]

what i assume

is happening here

is that bulwarks do not have stagger res while idle

[potent echo]

It's like being able to stagger ragers in meatgrinder

[lunar hollow]

yeah

although u can still do that if u catch them quick enough before they aggro

[thorn cedar]

yea thats what it is

[potent echo]

STEALTH PUNCH OGRYN

[thorn cedar]

exactly that same interaction

some guns if you engage far away enough you can keep their shield open off the first shot

[ripe yacht]

YOU NO SEE SNEAKY OGRYN.

[thorn cedar]

but once they turn to you

you cannot

[lunar hollow]

oh since we are speaking of ogryn punch

[frigid sparrow]

Whats dump stats for mk IV DS?

[lunar hollow]

may i introduce u to the world of airborne enemies and stagger states

https://streamable.com/xnfp7w

[lunar hollow]

cleave damage

[spice veldt]

ogryn shovel op

[lunar hollow]

this also works with

[thorn cedar]

now skeet shoot a hound wave with ur fist

[lunar hollow]

ogryn taunt and a flying chaos spawn

[lunar hollow]

if you can find me a spot where a single hound runs at you at a time

i will do it

[thorn cedar]

naw u gotta embrace the chaos

or stand on a box

whichever

[lunar hollow]

i mean

you could

or you could be an environmentally friendly ogryn

https://streamable.com/iv3xhc @spice veldt ive heard u say psyker doesnt have ammo problems

[spice veldt]

NOOOOOOOOOOO

well that's quite funny

could just macro it and call it a day

does it work with the rumbler?

[lunar hollow]

im tempted

uh

i do not believe so

[spice veldt]

shame

trauma staff > rumbler clearly

[lunar hollow]

i will post the clips again

[spice veldt]

no

[lunar hollow]

u cant handle RUMBLIN TIME

[spice veldt]

shush yourself

[lunar hollow]

yea i think because of how kickback works u can do this

fuck it i might macro this and bring it into a pub just to terrorize people

[thorn cedar]

rombler do romble lately

[potent echo]

What the hell is this

That definitely isn't lucky bullets right?

[lunar hollow]

no sir this is SKILL BULLETS

if you q-swap at the right time when firing u can shoot the round but not expend the ammo

[spice veldt]

it's INJUSTICE is what this is

the ogryns took our powers

[potent echo]

Lucky bullet itself is some warp fuckery

Ogryn psyker subclass soon

[lunar hollow]

lucky bullet with kickback/rumbler is fucked up rn

because it drops BA stacks

[potent echo]

L

Kickback still doesn't allow ADS for blaze away

[lunar hollow]

well u get guaranteed crit surgical

[potent echo]

Do I really want surgical

[lunar hollow]

is not bad

[potent echo]

Crits do one shot flak ragers though

[lunar hollow]

like 1300 damage vs a crusher

[potent echo]

Otherwise you need fullbore buff or BA

But I can just fire two shots

🤔

Maybe on a non glugger build

[lunar sparrow]

Kind of disappointed by the Assail changes
since it doesn't fix my main problem with them (they trivialise most engagements with non-armoured units)

it's still really un-fun watching Assail chew through clusters of enemies in an eyeblink

[potent echo]

assail could really use a RoF nerf

[spice veldt]

no

ammo nerf

i will take nothing else

nothing that would hamper my dream of it becoming a quickswap weapon

[potent echo]

yea ROF nerf wont really work because the regen is so fast you effectively have infinite

[lunar sparrow]

I reckon just make it basically work like Sienna's bolt staff
I dunno why they didn't do that initially

[spice veldt]

shoot its ammo economy riiight in the knees

[lunar sparrow]

rapid-fire and a snipe, but no seeking

[potent echo]

they were mad that everyone shat on burning head

so burning head 2.0

[lunar sparrow]

Yeah but there's Brain Rupture! That's basically Burning Head 2.0
it's even hitscan

[potent echo]

1 minute ult > kills one stormvermin

[lunar sparrow]

like, I would love to know the design philosophy behind Assail. Brain Rupture and Smite fill very different rolls and do so pretty well, and then there's Assail, which kinda does what both of them do but for less effort

[potent echo]

its supposed to be "weak to armor" but unless the game is 50% bulwarks/crushers/maulers its still going to be very strong

[lunar sparrow]

yeah exactly

[spice veldt]

yeah their design with it just covers too much

[potent echo]

future modifier when scab bruiser learn to wear helmets

assail on life support

[spice veldt]

I am on some insane hopium for it to become a quickswap weapon

[potent echo]

make psyker knives into zealot knives

[spice veldt]

because it'd be fine if it had aim assist if you couldn't burst through 10 of them or if each shard didn't have a 1.4s cooldown

so that it'd be a quickswap weapon that you could throw and then swap back to your other weapon aas you guide the shards

[lunar sparrow]

Yeah! if it worked like Zealot knives more, which is a lot of fun to use, I'd be alright with that

[fallow falcon]

Disrupt Destiny still needs a qol buff, there are too many times where there's nothing available to even build stacks on

But gun psyker feels even better other than toughness regen

[potent echo]

it targets bruisers, but the effect just doesnt show

so weird

[spice veldt]

at least DD has two bugs messing with it

• refresh mechanic not working properly
• marked enemies not glowing

so it remains to be seen as to how it'll feel if it did function properly

but god damn are those two bugs really impactful in a negative way

[potent echo]

gunker probably needs toughness regen curios

or just take quietude and smite

[fierce crest]

or bubble

[potent echo]

oh yea buble

[fallow falcon]

I want to use scriers and go reee mode though

[strong gulch]

Took BB and it was nice for the only reason that I was the one able to get snipers. 🙃

Still not great tbh. Though with my current set up, if I keep BB, it's my biggest boss damage.

[potent echo]

reee mode with 20% crit

its something but it could be much more

ogryn gunlugger with fire bullets just straight up delete everything

[strong gulch]

With my revolver build, Gaze isn't worth it at all.

[fallow falcon]

Remove the cap on scrier's gaze and make the buildup slightly slower

I want to stretch that as long as possible

Go full Legion shadow priest

If you get to 100 stacks you nuke the entire map

And die

[potent echo]

if they made it cooldown as it was being used like exe stance

wait did they not fix scrier not interacting with siphon charges

[brazen warren]

scriers for movespeed, peril generation when you cant use assail safely, or for melee horde cleave on gunker

the damage boost is minor except for horde

[strong gulch]

If you do scriers + DD on DS or knife, the movement speed is ridiculous.

@vagrant frigate has posted some zoomie stabs in here.

[brazen warren]

i have a near max mobility roll on revolver, it is also fast with sg

[bold yacht]

Does the warp battery challenge count as 4 the max warp charges? (if you have 6)

[unborn flicker]

So Smite needs either more dmg or a longer duration

[brazen warren]

is it for CC or for horde dps? they should choose one and go with it

[potent echo]

i heard most legacy penances are borked right now

[unborn flicker]

or make it a choice with the stuff in your skill tree

[livid pollen]

ive been trying to Warp Battery all evening... nada

[potent echo]

technically EP smite is danage

[bold yacht]

im in pain

[brazen warren]

Right now you can get some dps value out of it with empower, but it is still better as a cc tool. Problem is, similar to shield ogryn tank, cc abilities rely heavily on your team's awareness of your CC enabling their aggression, which most do not realize or capitalize on

[potent echo]

i think i saw someone in here complete warp battery post patch 13

[unborn flicker]

horrible dmg

[potent echo]

yea

[brazen warren]

ep smite is for horde damage only, actual dps on elites,specials, and bosses is negligible

[potent echo]

i like releasing smite early

[brazen warren]

pair with creeping flames vent and you can wipe out whole rooms of fodder

[potent echo]

the knockdown is nice

[brazen warren]

it is a point of mastery to do that with smite

[plucky flax]

Duelling sword revolver swag

[potent echo]

creeping flames will kill regardless

[brazen warren]

I am rolling devil claw mk4 because it covers things revolver does not (aoe horde, heavy attack for burst dps)

smite creeping is guaranteed lockdown sweep

[potent echo]

yea I like it too, i need to use the parry more

[brazen warren]

parry tank on chaos spawns is fun as hell

style points

getting better at it

[vernal blaze]

okay whats the palpatine staff supposed to do

[brazen warren]

which, surge staff or smite?

surge is single target burst, smite is aoe crowd control/niche horde clear

[vernal blaze]

one got the word staff in it

[potent echo]

surge staff "kills" one thing per shock

[vernal blaze]

oh it hits one guy

yeah thats what i couldnt wrap my head around when using it

[brazen warren]

there is a bug where the 125% damage from empowered psionics is buffing it right now

[terse saffron]

is this salvageable?

[brazen warren]

so it can delete super hard

[potent echo]

we dont promote that around here

[brazen warren]

I think its dumb and dont like it

but it is around right now

[potent echo]

change both blessings

[brazen warren]

as for that autogun, slap raking fire on there and you can do some massive boss dps by spraying into their rear

that is how I run that one anyways

[potent echo]

make sure you spray their butt for extra dps (not kidding)

[spice veldt]

damn nice perks

[brazen warren]

swap the blessings and you are good

[terse saffron]

is pogryn cheek multiplier really that high to ignore the head?

[potent echo]

i like running hit and run on mine, blessings are salt and pepper to taste

[brazen warren]

yess, because his head moves around like a speed bag and aiming autoguns at full rate of fire is cancer

[potent echo]

no but its often harder to hit the head if hes not after you

[spice veldt]

dum dum + deathspitter for me

[brazen warren]

dum dum is good, easy to maintain

[terse saffron]

[potent echo]

pubs usually backpedal dodge in a panic so the boss runs away so far

[spice veldt]

hell yeah

[brazen warren]

try out raking fire some time too, you may enjoy it

but that is a good roll

[spice veldt]

now where do you live so that i may shank you for that columnus

[potent echo]

its a god roll

can use it forever by adjusting its blessings

[brazen warren]

how to fight bosses: kite the beast of nurgle, dodge/parry tank the ogryn in place, dodge/parry tank chaos spawn in a small circle or into a tight room to stop it from making to much space

ogryns are better at tanking cspawn

[spice veldt]

kinetic deflection 😎

[potent echo]

you can cheese cspawn into doing his one arm slam if you hug him

[spice veldt]

i prefer to just stand so that the cspawn is only attacking in one direction and has relatively consistent behavior for melee teammates

[compact cargo]

dueling sword damage on plogryn

[brazen warren]

good to know

[potent echo]

its really finicky though

[spice veldt]

40-50 seconds 😔

one day, we will get a boss deleter

one day

[potent echo]

force greatsword pls

just take exesword from kruber

[brazen warren]

when your team leaves you to solo the cspawn and die on the other side of the map to a firing squad

[unique mist]

voidstrike staff with surge and true aim against plogryn is probably the closest we'll get

[potent echo]

F

i think dueling kills plogryn faster

[brazen warren]

that columnus with raking does good boss dps, its just terrible at everything else due to ammo economy

[spice veldt]

voidstrike has the stagger but I doubt it has the sustained DPS against the plogryn

very funny to knock a boss off of the map with vstrike though

[brazen warren]

elemental force swords when, like lightning or soulblaze instead of straight damage

[potent echo]

moonlight greatsword

[brazen warren]

lightning claws

[terse saffron]

vs is dogshit against bosses

might as well brain burst them instead

[brazen warren]

head shots only for CC with VS is godtier, but dps is mid

[terse saffron]

it staggers monstrosities on full charge headshots if you're not getting shafted by ping

[brazen warren]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodborne-ludwig-my-true-mentor-my-guiding-moonlight-moonlight-gif-20321022

[velvet spear]

is it still possible to get all the Storm Witch's Redemption set? or are the penances bugged

[potent echo]

I heard that you can still get warp battery, but im not sure

[orchid shadow]

Ugh, really missing the infinite dodges on the force sword. 😦

[spice veldt]

they put gum under our sneakers

[brazen warren]

just imagine the amount that is on the veterans shoes after all the psword nerfs, lol

[solar sand]

oh?

[livid pollen]

not working for me 19mins 6+ warp

[sour oriole]

What is the best Force Sword and why?

[solar sand]

shame i cant put the 4 flurry on this

[fierce crest]

deimos and illisi for single vs horde

[sour oriole]

As in Deimos for single targets and Illisi for hordes?

[potent echo]

yea

[sour oriole]

Hm, ok

Appreciate it

Best dueling sword?

[potent echo]

although deimos can stll handle hordes

duelling4 has the most damage on haevy stabs

duelling5 has great dodges

[brazen warren]

dueling 4 has a consistant move set and good heavy stabs for crushers, but lacks in horde clear

[solar sand]

i cant progress anymore

[sour oriole]

Farewell

[spice veldt]

the mk2 is the one with the best hordeclear because of its h2

and despite having the same h1 as the mk4's in terms of animation, it has less base damage for whatever reason

[verbal bear]

mk4 made me wish zealot had duelling swords

[brazen warren]

ah, mixed up mk4 and mk2, my bad

[spice veldt]

why couldn't they have had a more meaningful prefix 🥺

god i hate it when the only way to refer to a specific mark is basically just a number

[potent echo]

heavy sword is so cracked though

Although it's kind of strange only psykers can use the duelling sword

[spice veldt]

no one else deserves drip

[potent echo]

Implying that all psykers went through some sort of formal training, which they probably did, seeing that they haven't become some warp monster

[fading patrol]

Tbf mk4 has slower light vs mk2 5

Then again youre mostly using heavy on mk4

[smoky fractal]

hey yall

zealot main here, whats the meta build for pysker?

[sinful olive]

🙏

[potent echo]

Most things are good on psyker

[smoky fractal]

is it redundant to run surge staff and smite?

[potent echo]

Kinda, I prefer assail so you can actually kill hordes

Surge for single targets

[smoky fractal]

i havent played psyker since being able to rip blessings off weps got introduced

[sinful olive]

surge is bugged right now with empowered psionics and nukes everything. both the crit/not crit versions of voidstrike are good. Assail is still good. All the staffs currently are good/viable, but surge is arguably the most broken. mk4 duelling sword is nuts.

[smoky fractal]

so surge staff is single target now?

[potent echo]

Yea

[wet belfry]

Here at psyker.inc we abuse bugs to create our most meta defining builds.

[potent echo]

So if you run surge you want a horde killing melee

I.e. Dclaw or illisi forcesword

[wet belfry]

Highest dps would be surge with smite, empowered psionsics at the end.

[sinful olive]

you could, or just run emp. psionics and smite, or assail

[wet belfry]

Empowered psionsics for some ungodly reason affects surge staff.

[smoky fractal]

should i just run down middle to get to EP?

[frail pewter]

how do people feel about the new pack?

[wet belfry]

Same thing with smite upgrades affecting surge

[potent echo]

There's a list of talents that are standouts

[smoky fractal]

I'll probably run surge staff with assail

[frail pewter]

as a vet main the amount of psykers blowing themselves up in Maelstrom is kinda alarming...

[potent echo]

Consult the psyker atheneum

[wet belfry]

Assail with revolver hand cannon is very strong

[smoky fractal]

zealot is ez mode rn so im trying to get a 2nd character off the ground

[wet belfry]

Hand cannon affects every weapon not just the revolver

[sinful olive]

maybe a bunch of smite psykers not used to actually having to manage peril

[frail pewter]

i do miss the old smite though

[sinful olive]

or returning psykers not used to not having a peril dump.

[eager token]

embrace warp battery smite

[potent echo]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[frail pewter]

my pc doesn't but i do

[fading patrol]

This isnt fixed yet? Cmiiw

[eager token]

warp charges + vent + smite is enough to have extended smite duration

[potent echo]

I'm still waiting for them to remove the damn crutches

[sinful olive]

I never abused the bug, just managed the peril with warp charges reducing peril generation

[smoky fractal]

warp attacks include staves and force swords?

[eager token]

i just save smite for oh shit moments

[potent echo]

Anything that costs peril

[sinful olive]

though switching over to the crit version of voidstrike will probably land me some brain blasts

[potent echo]

Includes soulblaze damage, as detailed in the guide

[sinful olive]

too used to going from 90 peril to 0 after popping a dozen heads

worth it to evaporate crusher blobs though

[potent echo]

I should play the new plasma on vet

That one really evaporates crusher blobs

[sinful olive]

I've heard it's quite fun

[potent echo]

100 cleave

Pierces through everything

[frail pewter]

hahahahahahaha

[sinful olive]

vet's prob gonna be the last class i level tho tbh

[frail pewter]

it's glorious

@viral solstice the stealth buffs might have been too stealthy

hahahah

[potent echo]

Stealth buffs?

[wet belfry]

According to patch notes it hasnt been fixed

Unless it was unlisted

[viral solstice]

its not fixed

should be fixed soon

[frail pewter]

oh shit this isn't vet chat wtf

[fading patrol]

Ah fair enuff, i was expecting it to be under the hood

[wet belfry]

We are the future.

[frail pewter]

mb im schizoing

[potent echo]

Then you in the right chat

Isn't that right beloved

[frail pewter]

remember you don't need weird power to make a difference

[deft osprey]

Does staff kills trigger soul stealer?

[potent echo]

Soul stealer being 4% chance to generate warpcharge?

I don't remember the new talent names

Or is that 7.5% toughness on warp kill

[unique mist]

yes

[unique mist]

this one

[kind knot]

is this worth upgrading, its got good damage and crit and stuff

[cinder mesa]

Depends how much you quell using the staff I guess

[smoky fractal]

can someone explain to me how scricers gaze works?

[spice veldt]

fyi, if the quell speed stat on your staff is less than 50%, it's better to just quell with your blitz or force sword

[cinder mesa]

You play gun-psyker

[compact cargo]

It works for duel sword too

But ye, you press f, you shoot

[cinder mesa]

Or that yeah, either way it's good damage on non peril weapon

[compact cargo]

you do more damage

Everyone happy

[cinder mesa]

Since with peril generation you'll generate peril like mad

[compact cargo]

the speed boost+ crit speed boost is quite funny too

[smoky fractal]

so when you press is it something you maintain?

[compact cargo]

u can outrun mutants briefly

[smoky fractal]

so if im reading correctly you get the buffs listed until you hit 100% peril?

so gun works best?

OH it builds peril automatically

[compact cargo]

ye

and then after x seconds spends in scry you get flat damage boost

for a few seconds after

idk if it's worth micro managing it to cool down up to 30% worth it or not

[cinder mesa]

I like my force weapons so I haven't used it yet lol

Also I gotta admit, the LMB buff to staves feels so nice.

Beforehand it felt kinda silly to often use it (unless Quell cancelling sorta) but now I'm vibing with it a lot

[buoyant mantle]

bloodthirsty is not real i swear to emperor
i spend so many mat on trait hunt

[cinder mesa]

I feel that

Earned blessings being only for that weapon type is kind of a pain

[stuck bridge]

there's some surge staff haters out there

[ember ruin]

Kinda struggeling with not being just a squishy tho. feels like I am taking way more damage now than before the patch.

[young meteor]

What's your base health and toughness? Might be worth removing some passive nodes for more toughness nodes

[spice veldt]

prob cuz of soulstealer nerf I bet

what are you getting rumbled and tumbled by

[hollow socket]

does this perk make the max charges requirement increase?

[uncut sluice]

is there headshots with Surge staff?

[spice veldt]

nay; only with the LMB

[narrow ermine]

This is a tasty surge staff

[harsh urchin]

10% elite might be better than 25% maniac

you get slightly better matchup against ragers, crushers and maulers

[stuck bridge]

holy shit the one i used to use looked almost exactly like that

i scrapped it today in favor of a better one, it mustve floated down the river to you

[buoyant mantle]

althought i dont use it, but imagine gatekeeping a coop game

a COOP game

[uncut sluice]

got bad perks and blessings 😦

[stuck bridge]

the zealot left as soon as he saw it lmfao

i personally hope they fix the bug asap though

[uncut sluice]

Why tho? about Surge I mean

[stuck bridge]

the bug, probably

[uncut sluice]

oh, it's about bug with some talent that give [phone] damage?

with Surge

[stuck bridge]

it's not quite that much but it is a lot

idk i feel pretty good about nuking specials and elites when i have to

it's all i ever wanted from the surge staff

[harsh urchin]

honestly

i doubt surge would be useable

without the bug

lmao

[uncut sluice]

oh it's Smite upgrades affecting Surge
not gonna use it anyway

[uncut sluice]

I feel it better for my gameplay then Void, tbh

crits more, faster firing

greater move speed

[harsh urchin]

yeah but without the bug

[uncut sluice]

from talents

[harsh urchin]

you'd be doing like 1/3 of your damage

[uncut sluice]

i'm playing with it without Smite bugged upgrades, with brain rupture tree

was top dmg latest Auric

[harsh urchin]

you must be quite good at melee then

LOL

[uncut sluice]

maybe

I just love that Mettle triggering a lot from Surge

So you have good move speed most of the time

feels good man

[hearty dagger]

Honestly i picked up surge for the sake of tankbusting

Though ngl it does feel lacking

[uncut sluice]

ye, like 1 or 2 more bounces would be good
how much dmg it would do is debatable

[harsh urchin]

it's pretty dogshit tbh lol, especially after crushers and maulers got a massive health bump

[hearty dagger]

I mean, peril/damagewise i feel like if it weren't for bulwarks i'd be better off with literally anything else

[cinder mesa]

I think, bug fixed, a 50% damage buff would not go amiss I'm NGL
It's a good armour ignorer but the damage is kinda eh, especially if you're facing a boss

[harsh urchin]

if it wasn't doing like triple damage i doubt it would be useable

[cinder mesa]

You're right I didn't consider that lmao

[hearty dagger]

Kinda thinking of getting a good Agripinaa headhunter

[stuck bridge]

yeah without the bug

it's kinda poop

1.6k damage on a reaper vs 800 with all of my stuff goin

[rich bolt]

I mostly use Surge for anti-elite/-special, albeit not as fast to kill ogryns and ragers.

But it does slap.

[hearty dagger]

My current build is:
Knife for anything immediately in my face that isn't carapace
Surge for anything immediately in my face that IS carapace
Assail to snipe any other elites

[buoyant mantle]

so, when you think FS will add mat downgrade in like VT2

[stuck bridge]

though MAYBE with 6 warp charges once the bug is fixed you can put out better damage

[rich bolt]

On top of it, Surge kills specials in just 1-2 charges (3-4 for mutants), which is crazy good for auric.

[cinder mesa]

I did a illisi/surge/assail/warp charge build with surge in patch 13 and even then the damage was...fine .

[hearty dagger]

Rn i'm kinda trying to get a good Illisi

[cinder mesa]

The stagger is nice but eh

[hearty dagger]

I need that uncanny strike

[narrow ermine]

rip, I was happy to settle with both blessings as T3

[narrow ermine]

Noted, might swap it out then

[cinder mesa]

Illisi is interesting, I'm wanting to use Deimos more for the armour pierce if not using surge or such but I quite liked getting my EP stacks with light chain horde clears plus vent on it, or have some fun with force charged heavy

To just sweep across a crowd and burn them

[narrow ermine]

honestly, we take these, happy to rock this one for a bit haha

[cinder mesa]

I do have a question though as I noticed something mentioned on the Athenum that Deimos is max DPS with L1H2, I assume this doesn't apply when fighting carapace?

Since some meat grinder testing yesterday a bit made it feel like the force attack on Deimos is real good against the crushers or such

[uncut sluice]

idk bois, I feel like Surge is pretty clutch at Auric

[cinder mesa]

Since I was messing around with builds and thinking of good melee choices when I need big DPS Vs a monstrosity boss or such

[cinder mesa]

Without EP?

[uncut sluice]

What's EP?

[narrow ermine]

Empowered Psionics

right now surge staff is benefiting from it

[uncut sluice]

Mk 4 Dueling with right blessings is not dealing like to of dmg vs bosses?

[narrow ermine]

tbh I hope they just make it so surge staff always preforms as well as it does when empowered, it feels so good like it is now

[uncut sluice]

Oh, yeah
Without EP

I'm running Warp Siphon

With Venting

[narrow ermine]

shit I meant to go to bed half an hour ago

instead i'm still tweaking with builds

[cinder mesa]

Reliably hitting the WPs can be very finicky I found

[uncut sluice]

I mean what options do you have with Psyker and not hitting those WPs

[uncut sluice]

I'm running this with Surge (dont want to abuse bug)
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a77d8e9-381b-442a-8bc8-9ba93b5f8f52/dwqdqwdvfvfvdf

[smoky fractal]

does burn from purge staff count as soul fire?

[spice veldt]

ye

[narrow ermine]

honestly I did some testing, and 25% maniac let me hit the breakpoint to oneshot on dreg ragers consistently with EP, the 10% vs elites didn't seem to make a great deal of difference for crushers and maulers who died in about two max charges

[narrow ermine]

I just want them to buff surge up to this level normally, it feels like how surge should be

[cinder mesa]

Chainsword or Deimos I guess? idk I found the downward swings of stuff like Deimos easier to connect to weak points than stabs, I struggle with charger headshotting for example

[rich bolt]

Might as well call it the cummmfpk build with a name like that (bloodborne reference)

[narrow ermine]

i'm glad plasteel is more available now, really let me go crazy building some new weapons haha

[still hearth]

The crafting has been made like 10x better

And it's still frustrating

[tired jackal]

fs let us pick our dumpstat in brunts pls

[still hearth]

Lul

Let us reroll a stat

[narrow ermine]

yeah honestly it could use more improvements

[uncut sluice]

I can't suggest anything bc I'm not that experienced myself, sorry
But I would stick to WPs, honestly
Psyker class weapons are too strong before, and even stronger with 14 patch

[narrow ermine]

but at least it's waaaay better than launch

well

the "crafting" update

[still hearth]

The locks makes Hadron pure RNG

[narrow ermine]

since it took us like a month to even be able to change weapon perks or blessings

50% less rng than it used to be at least

[uncut sluice]

hunting for Blessings was the worst for me

[still hearth]

I still don't have most T4 blessings

600 hours in

[idle bay]

Why i can't get a satisfactory blast from any of the Ogryn's exploding weapons? And it's a not a rhetorical question. Rumbler keeps a lot of things alive, GG leaves sliver of health for toxflamers even on +25% to Maniacs.. FRUSTRATING!

[uncut sluice]

also, the fact that they doesn't share pool with Staffs or between characters for common weapons is insane

[still hearth]

Tbf I'm not optimising crafting

[narrow ermine]

yeah, I've played since launch and only ever found the battery upgrade for powersword after they added different tiers to it

still never seen a T4 lol

[still hearth]

You gotta check Melk every day to be optimal

And I'm just not into that

[narrow ermine]

too much work

[uncut sluice]

yeah, f that

still better then checking store every 30 min at release (what a mess)

[cinder mesa]

At release I got my Ogryn to 30, played vet and psyker some, then went to play other videogames til DT improved lol

[uncut sluice]

I'm using extension to checking on site, by the way

[still hearth]

I mean I took a big break

But it was always fun to actually PLAY the game

[uncut sluice]

Same, returne with patch 13 late

[still hearth]

Just not the crafting

[hearty dagger]

You fellas reckon bloodthirsty/soulblaze on crit is better or maybe uncanny-queller?

[still hearth]

No

[idle bay]

I took a long break from the game as well (burned out on crafting). It was super easy to return especially after classes reword and weapons rebalance

[still hearth]

Soulblaze on crit is pretty bad

[hearty dagger]

So what would be a good illisi setup for critpsyker?

[still hearth]

You'll be killing too much to get damage out of it

Slaughterer and then whatever I think.

I don't recall it's blessings tbf

Anything that adds power, damage or rending

[hearty dagger]

There's Bloodthirsty that gives you a guaranteed crit after special attack kill
Uncanny :D

Also Superiority but Superiority is wack as hell imho

[tired jackal]

i dont go crit but with illisi i go slaught/power on peril with warp rider

[still hearth]

Ye but crits kinda sucks

[cinder mesa]

I like using the vent on weakspot hit with illisi for some free vent while crowd clearing or such instead of venting

[still hearth]

Venting is so fast it's really only useful for scriers I feel

[hearty dagger]

Yeah vent on weakspot hit is great since well, my good friend scrier's gaze

[still hearth]

1.2s to vent 100% with a staff at 80% quell speed

[hearty dagger]

Plus i'm on crit toughness so i think guaranteed crit after special attack kill would be pretty baller

[still hearth]

And you usually want to have peril for warp rider anyway

[still hearth]

One empowered swing gives you full toughness in hordes anyway

So

[hearty dagger]

Yeah but that way it gets even wackier

[still hearth]

And toughness regen is the least issue for Psyker

[hearty dagger]

Oh you have to be fucking kidding me with these blessings.

[still hearth]

Building towards what the class is already exceedingly good at just seems like a waste to me.

[hearty dagger]

Perks i mean

Fucking anti-poxwalker surge staff

[still hearth]

There's only like three unarmored enemies for surge staff RMB too

Enjoy

[hearty dagger]

I could

Kill you

[still hearth]

Not with that Surge staff you won't

[hearty dagger]

I can if i get your pants off

[strong gulch]

could be worse

[cinder mesa]

Oof

[rich bolt]

Love me some weak spot damage for my LMB, lmao

[strong gulch]

Honestly impressive. Hadron was real proud of this one.

[cinder mesa]

Proud of our suffering for not worshipping the Omnissiah

[vestal fulcrum]

THANK YOU, FATHER

[chrome linden]

i can read that and hear harrys voice

[bold flint]

is there a build that can oneshot muties with the poker with no setup

[uncut sluice]

@still hearth
btw here is my Surge and other dudes Void at Auric
without a bugged Smite and EP talents
and I was not sweating to be top DPS
also not having BiS Surge atm

I know scoreboard is scuffed, gonna fix it now

[whole oxide]

depends what you mean by "setup"

[still hearth]

In theory with Warp Charges you should be able to do the same amount of damage it just takes twice as long

I mean you even bring the dueling sword with a single target ranged

[deft osprey]

Does the exorcist blessing on force swords even work? Is it good? I tried it and didn't see much difference in reducing peril

[uncut sluice]

Vent is doing fine with Hordes/Warp Charges spend and Mk4 have some sweep in case of emergency,
also, you can zap and dodge for eternity with Surge and "Mettle" talent

Overall I'm having a blast
Not gonna return to Void for sure

[still hearth]

It only reduces peril once per swing

[still hearth]

I guess fair enough. I still think it needs to have decent TTK on enemies I care about for me to use it so it's still a dump without EP bug.

I'd rather run purgatus and then use Mk4 to kill single targets if Surge isn't dealing damage.

[uncut sluice]

it's very nice that you can fast disable priority targets, even kill them

charges are pretty fast

I'm feeling like I'm carrying every lobby

[still hearth]

Yeah but so can Trauma and Voidstrike if disabling is the priority so

Idk I don't feel it offers much compared to the other staves from how I've used it

[uncut sluice]

Just leaving my expressions
Everyone's preferred gameplay is different 💯

[still hearth]

Yeah I just hate CC focused builds is my thing

And a lot of people focus on how it CCs things

And it's like

Yeah but so does my melee

If I hit them with it

Or literally all other staves

Which was always my issue with Surge

It really only had one niche and that was stunning muties

But it obviously works for people so enjoy it

[sour oriole]

Best Psyker staff for hordes?

[still hearth]

I mean I use Smite a lot to stagger things in a pinch so I definitely get that

Trauma = Purgatus > Void >>>> Surge for hordes probably

Purgatus is more applicable for hordes in general but Trauma will delete any hordies in the AoE

[torpid shadow]

hey psyker mains, part time psyker here, what are good perks for the illisi force sword?

[sour oriole]

Hm, fair fair

[torpid shadow]

ik its a good horde weapon

so I was just thinking flak unarmored

[still hearth]

Perks or blessings?

Right

Not unarmored

Never unarmored

[torpid shadow]

ooh whys that

[still hearth]

Flak and Maniac

[torpid shadow]

gotcha

[still hearth]

Because you don't care about the unarmored enemies

Mostly

[gentle marten]

most of the hard to kill stuff isn't technically "unarmored"

[cinder mesa]

Flak especially

[torpid shadow]

im running it with a surge staff and assail

[still hearth]

You get like:
Unarmored bruiser head. Dreg stalker. Sniper. Groaners.

[cinder mesa]

But yeah the big enemies with lotsa HP are Unyielding

[still hearth]

With unarmored.

And with your Illisi special

You one-shot these without unarmored

So it's not worth it

[potent echo]

dreg gunner and dreg shotgunner head are unarmored

[still hearth]

Right but you're not often using Illisi on those

[potent echo]

those are the biggest contenders for +unarmored

[still hearth]

And if you are

[potent echo]

so yea if you care about those, then go see if it matters

[still hearth]

They're already close to you

So you can just beat them up

[sour oriole]

Honestly, shotgunners and gunners I never want to be running up on in melee tbh, I'd rather shoot

[torpid shadow]

mainly I hear folks saying you wanna use it for hordes since I pretty much kill crushers and most elites with my surge staff

assail for distance hordes

my duelling sword has been doing pretty decent but wanted to try force sword

[still hearth]

Spam Assail then pull out your melee

[cinder mesa]

Pretty much. Its light string is pretty good and special heavy is a great sweep

[torpid shadow]

speaking of which is there a mk duelling sword that reigns supreme

[still hearth]

Or just spam assail

[cinder mesa]

MK4

[still hearth]

And dodge backwards

[torpid shadow]

I have a mk 2 but I hear ppl say mk 4 is like the best one

[still hearth]

And hordes die

Mk4 is the best

[cinder mesa]

MK4 has insane WP damage

[still hearth]

Its kind of sad how much better it is

It does like 50% more damage with its heavies

[cinder mesa]

Yep

[torpid shadow]

best blessings and perks for the mk4 then?

[still hearth]

Uncanny Strike and uh

[still hearth]

Shred? Riposte?

Idk

[torpid shadow]

using currently, will have to upgrade

[cinder mesa]

I think there's one that gives rending on chain too but I can't remember

[still hearth]

You want Flak + Maniac on Duelling Sword too I think. With Uncanny Strike and one of the crit blessings

Unless you're not running the crit nodes up top for some reason then you might want to have Rampage even if you have to push attack to proc it

[cinder mesa]

Precog is pretty good too

[still hearth]

Yeah that's true

But you def want Uncanny

[torpid shadow]

mainly use my current duelling sword for some level of emergency swarm control & boss weapon bc for some reason my surge staff does pitiful dmg against monsters

if i can roll it, sob

[still hearth]

Because all staves do pitiful damage against monsters

[torpid shadow]

oh swag thanks

ill have to throw my plasteel into the void to grab one then

[dim parrot]

monster in like bosses?

[cinder mesa]

The part about Curios is weird and debatable but rest pretty good https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

Albeit not all updated for U14

[still hearth]

Yes

[torpid shadow]

ive been looking for advice on psyker curios

ive just been using

[dim parrot]

ooh ye

[torpid shadow]

toughness regen, ability cooldown

(third no clue)

[still hearth]

Ability Cooldown is bad

[vestal fulcrum]

Ability cool-down is misleading

It’s not true cool-down reduction, it’s just a tick rate increase

[still hearth]

The numbers are just too low

[torpid shadow]

ah

[still hearth]

It is true cooldown

It reduces your cooldown right away

[summer prairie]

what's up with this l1/l2 damage https://streamable.com/8j4y80

[still hearth]

Normal damage

[vestal fulcrum]

That’s new to me. How is it calculated then if I have say, 12% from 3 curios?

[summer prairie]

very normal to do 840 with l1

[torpid shadow]

wow

thats mk4?

[still hearth]

I'm pretty sure it's additive. To be fair I haven't tested it in a while.

[torpid shadow]

curios suggestions?

currently running toughness toughness wound

[still hearth]

I run HP HP HP rn I think

[torpid shadow]

been using the cooldown, toughness regen, and gunner resis

[still hearth]

Most people run like 3x Toughness or 2x Toughness 1 HP.

[torpid shadow]

ah

[still hearth]

Toughness regen on Psyker is very moot

Because you get so much toughness from peril

Or kills

[dim parrot]

I run HP HP Toughness

[still hearth]

Or crits

[spice veldt]

always a good bet to run at least one hp as a main stat

[torpid shadow]

so what about subperks?

[spice veldt]

and I'd stack at least 3 tough as side stats, and the rest is basically whatever you feel like

[near wyvern]

Flamers take additional melee damage

[torpid shadow]

gunner resis is an essential for me

they melt me af

[near wyvern]

I believe it's same as mutants

[bold flint]

solidity affects passive quell right

[near wyvern]

Nope

[summer prairie]

oh never knew that

[lunar hollow]

when in doubt, gunner res/hp/toughness

[bold flint]

[lunar hollow]

never think about ur curios again

[spice veldt]

Im a little little binch running sniper res because I keep mistiming my duelling sword dodges

takes so long for my muscle memory to get used to the duelling swords

[still hearth]

I keep being in a dodge and getting hit by snipers so I feel like I'll keep running it as well.

The shot literally going past my character model while I'm dodging

[lunar hollow]

i accept that sometimes i am going to fuck up the dodge timing because the game does its best to try to misdirect u sometimes

[still hearth]

Still gets hit

[lunar hollow]

and take the hp damage

i rather stupidly lost a 1v1 to a sniper yesterday

[summer prairie]

I guess hounds do as well then

[spice veldt]

my 180 HP ass can't fit too many sniper shots

[lunar hollow]

i dont even remember how i just kinda watched him shoot me mid-dodge

[near wyvern]

I run sniper res cause at times your screen is cluttered with a shit ton of flame & heretics while your ears are being invaded by the screaming horde and mutants, so at times it is just fucking difficult to spot an incoming sniper shot through it all

[vestal fulcrum]

I sometimes manage to sneak in a successful dodge while dodging sniper shots at -5 effective dodge and brain bursting something

[lunar hollow]

if the sniper downs me i get to stop thinking and just chill on the floor

which is a W for me

[spice veldt]

I need all the res I can to support my playstyle if running into the open

I refuse to adhere to concepts such as cover

[vestal fulcrum]

Relatable

[near wyvern]

TBH sprint sliding is more consistent in dodging sniper shots than actual dodges

[spice veldt]

not until they shoot our toughness Regen to the ground

I basically just played like an idiot and won my last matches so I'll keep doing that

[cinder mesa]

Cover is for cowards, we look our heretics in the eye when we kill them

[spice veldt]

hell yeah

shank them with duelling swords

so fun just running into gunner patrols, slapping a shield down, and oneshotting scab gunners with duellies

[summer prairie]

with the bugged rampage and the better cleave lights are pretty decent https://streamable.com/i377gt

[still hearth]

Doing 104% extra damage makes things good??

[dim parrot]

man the moment u try to kill a sniper and the heretics want your attention

[near wyvern]

Now do this same with a Slaughter + Uncanny Deimos

[summer prairie]

barely good yeah

[spice veldt]

wtf it maintains rampage against shotgunners

they have less hitmass than I thought

[dim parrot]

rampage still bugged btw?

[near wyvern]

wdym bugged?

[summer prairie]

it's +50% dmg and +36% power

[dim parrot]

wasn't it bugged for a long while?

[near wyvern]

Rampage?

[summer prairie]

yes

[still hearth]

Since it was updated at least.

[near wyvern]

Interesting

[summer prairie]

+50% dmg on any blessing level

[near wyvern]

[nova edge]

So gotta ask, are weapons individual in their blessing pool or can you take say a staffs blessing off it and use it on another?

As long as its a staff?

[still hearth]

They have select families they fall into

And none of the current staves share a family

So all staves are currently individual

[nova edge]

Bruh, tryin to get the equinox 4 with at least warp nexus for ages

Hoping for melk or the armory to put one up for sale at some point

As i say this, manage to make one through hadron bruh

[gritty ice]

Which one of this staves is better?
I know It's recommended 76% burn, but the other one has everything better (excel autistic sheet for comparison)

Lmao why did It get so big the image

[nova edge]

Discord previews are wack lmao

[summer prairie]

depends on the other rolls

[gritty ice]

Both are grey atm

[summer prairie]

the one with lower burn is probably better due to cloud

[tall bobcat]

Can brain rupture crit?

[summer prairie]

but stats barely matter for purg

[still hearth]

No

[thin finch]

What ? Really ?

[still hearth]

It never could

[thin finch]

Actual sadgnesd ,my belief are broken

[thin finch]

I never checked

[still hearth]

It also does no bonus damage to weakspots so weakspot damage does nothing for it

[thin finch]

Technically it ALWAYS does weakspot damage so you can never tell the difference

[still hearth]

No

[potent echo]

No

[still hearth]

The thing is

It does +0 damage

On weakspot

[potent echo]

also beast of churgle

[still hearth]

It's base damage is what it does on weakspot

[thin finch]

T'was a joke about brain burst lads

[summer prairie]

it benefits from DD/scrier's gaze weakspot damage

[still hearth]

I thought it didn't?

[thin finch]

Psykhanium time

[summer prairie]

1726 mauler dmg with 30 stacks of DD

[thin finch]

And without ?

Can't go I'm at work

[summer prairie]

14xx, forgot already

[still hearth]

Syll

That's just the base 30% damage

As far as my math tells me at least

Unless base mauler is below 1x damage at least

[summer prairie]

tbh forgot how dd works

[still hearth]

Hahaha

30 stacks would be +30% damage

And like +90% weakspot damage I think

[torpid shadow]

hey this mustve been asked a billion times but best perks/blessings for voidstrike?

[still hearth]

Surge + Warp Nexus

[torpid shadow]

what im getting so far from searches is
surge isa n absolute must

[still hearth]

Then idk

Maniac and Unyielding maybe.

[thin finch]

it's +2.5% per stack for weakspot so more like 75%

[compact bluff]

but you also get +1% damage per stack, so its more than 90%, but i dont know if its calculated additively or multiplicatively. i think additively?

[tall bobcat]

I've really been enjoying Smite with all it's CC

[vale hatch]

Can somebody tell me why my bonus on my weapon and blessing get locked ?