psyker-class

[keen pawn]

when I do

[bold flint]

pistol is fine, and so is power sword

[pine relic]

can you two shot crushers with BB now?

[celest tangle]

Welp they removed our Smite

:C

[hoary badge]

plasma isn't at all affected by suppression and can melt through cover

pretty much point and click

[keen pawn]

lol wait

[spice oar]

New ep Smite clears hordes rlly well tho dw

[keen pawn]

did you do the push attack?

[bold flint]

yea

[keen pawn]

on damnation?

[wintry quail]

gotta say, extremely dissatisfied with smite "buff"

[keen pawn]

what the actual fuck, is that before or after patch 14

[wintry quail]

empowered psionics feels like a throw pick now. Guess I'm goin back to warp charges.

[idle bay]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a74ac6d-a658-4154-adaa-b01cf1eb5cf0/immune-to-snipers

[celest tangle]

yeah but empowered psionics is now basically useless, didnt it say in the description that it was a bug" when the entire description said "-100% smite" Lmao fucking clown devs

[keen pawn]

I wouldn't call it a buff really, more like "provitional change" and "let us know how it feels so we know where to go from here"

[wintry quail]

it was supposed to not have it, but the other two had it, and like always, they miss the details

[spice oar]

I'm sorry, what are you on about

[bold flint]

it wasnt damnation (couldnt find a quick game) but it wouldve worked all the same. this is current patch

[crude cape]

did brain burst ever used to 2 shot crushers, or was it usually a 3 shot before patch 13

[keen pawn]

it didn't say that actually

[bold flint]

granted i juiced the fuck out of the sword just to do that

[celest tangle]

Before the patch it was literally in the description for empowered psionics that abilites took no peril

[spice oar]

The description didn't mention the peril reduction at all

[celest tangle]

Before it did

[spice oar]

No

No it did not

[crude cape]

? why, dmg is noticeably better and EP now applies to surge staff dmg too lol

[spice oar]

You are just wrong

[keen pawn]

yeah there was no smite -100% peril, never did

the other two it did, but smite specifically did not have that.

[spice oar]

That was for Brain rupture, and it wasn't even 100% it was like 50

[hoary badge]

assail was 100

[spice oar]

Ahh there

[wintry quail]

@crude cape i see what they WANT smite to do, it just doesn't work like they want. Here's my metric, right? I can use a dueling sword, and 1 hit almost any enemy on heresy with one heavy attack. OR, I could spend two full peril bars channeling on that same enemy.

So why would I ever use smite now? The infinite crowd control made it ok.
Assail kills everything that smite can control faster.

A) Kill enemy in 1 heavy from dueling sword
B) Spend upwards of 10 SECONDS channeling smite.

Why would I ever pick B now?

[celest tangle]

They still bascially drove smite users into the fucking concrete

[spice oar]

Side note I unironically feel good using assail now cause damm kt slaps

[spice oar]

They rlly didn't, have you played with it yet?

Or are you just whining

[hoary badge]

I ran smite on auric malestrom just fine

[wintry quail]

yes. I just played the auric mael. It feels bad now. increasing 10 damage to 15 is really not a buff, when they also buffed all health again in the same patch.

[celest tangle]

^

I have

And agree

[steel flame]

Just made he has to manage peril like every other psyker now

[crude cape]

ya im not counting heresy tho lol, damnationm is the only thing that matters imo

[celest tangle]

Hmm lemme tickle them with a feather instead of a leaf now

[spice oar]

To me if you run it with ep and venting shriek you can clear hordes

[wintry quail]

yes, when you run EP and warp rider and all the peril buffs, it does like 60 a tick. WOW! I can do ONE heavy attack and kill that enemy. Why would I spend 150% peril to do that?

[celest tangle]

THIS.

[wintry quail]

if it doesn't work on heresy it doesn't work on fucking damnation

why would i smite when i can just click one time with a sword

[celest tangle]

Mhm theres no point in even running smite now on damnation or auric

[wintry quail]

smite is NOT good now.

[steel flame]

Omg ITS NOT MEANT FOR DAMAGE. WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE WANT

[wintry quail]

it still WORKS. you can FORCE it.

[spice oar]

Obvs it ain't a single target thing, you want it to kill specials and elites in like 10 tics?

[bold flint]

smite locks down any enemy and it locks down large squads of them. It requires no aim and protects your teammates from stray melee hits by locking them down

[spice oar]

IT'S NOT A DAMAGE BLITZ

IT'S JUST GOOD FOR HORDE DMG NOW

[steel flame]

It's a cc monster stop asking it to also murder everyone

[celest tangle]

Thats what we've been saying, but they took away empowered psyonics proper CC

[bold flint]

trying to force smite to single target is a goofy idea

[keen pawn]

Dev Note: Smite being able to channel without cost when Empowered Psionics was active was a bug. We do however feel that without it Smite can feel a bit lacklustre in combination with Empowered Psionics, so we’re further increasing the power of it. We’ll be keeping an eye on it, and are up for doing something related to cost in the future as long as it's more balanced this time around!
Look, they know it was OP and they know it felt lackluster without it. That's why they're asking for feedback. It was more important at the moment to make it less OP, and then to work from there, rather than keeping it broken af.

My 2 cents on Smite is that it should not build peril as fast, but it should also not be infinite. Done deal.

[crude cape]

in damnation, a huge horde of elites in maelstrom - smiting -venting for burn, smiting - venting for burn and repeating - This is very safe and big CC + dmg combo that really helps the team AND allows for clutches.
I would imagine smite feels worse in heresy with easier breakpoints, but its def more useful in the harder damantion + modes, which personally is all I play and think truly matters lol (call me an elitest but the game starts at damnation imo)

[steel flame]

No that was just a crutch.

[hoary badge]

it's not a smite issue, its a skill issue if you've been using infinismite as a crutch prepatch lmao

[wintry quail]

If they want it to be a CC tool, they shouldn't buff the damage. Give it more spread. Give it cheaper cost (but not zero)

[keen pawn]

yes

[celest tangle]

Exactly

[spice oar]

IT'S NOT A SINGLE TARGET BLITZ. WAKE UP

[wintry quail]

WHY WOULD I CC THEM WHEN I CAN KILL THEM? IF THEY'RE DEAD, THEY ARE PERMANENTLY CC'D.

[spice oar]

THIS IS SO SILLY

[hoary badge]

does your melee attack have a 15 m aoe radius?

No?

[steel flame]

If you actually learn to manage your peril it's great

[wintry quail]

Do I need it when every enemy is up my ass anyway? no?

[crude cape]

yep, which is why i personally was using a build with warp charges + smite and using it as intended, to alternate with venting shriek and stack up burns while holding a huge wave of tough enemies back. then when they low/thinned out/teammates are up, go back to staff/melee

[hoary badge]

then don't

[crude cape]

its actually super good and fun when used that way

[wintry quail]

you literally can't blow up with it, peril is a non issue

[hoary badge]

we have different tools for different situations

[spice oar]

That's exactly what I do except with ep so I can trade cc for horde clear potential. BUT GOD FORBID we make builds that specialise

[crude cape]

another reason its nice, cant fuck up like with assail and click too many times lol

[crude cape]

well im gonna swap to EP now, i just didn't use it before bc the warp charges dmg was nice + i didn't want to abuse infinite smite

[wintry quail]

warp charges are just the stronger option now. They give you lowered cost and toughness damage reduction over turning 2 into 3 and adding +1 to the infinite cc. EP is a trap for smite.

[steel flame]

If you wanna smite continuously its a peril issue -_-

[wintry quail]

it cannot down you, what are you talking about

[hoary badge]

if we wanted the game to hand feed us a button to kill everything with more damage and less effort we'd have prepatch assail

[celest tangle]

Assail did more than smite to begin with from what I saw, before you can even fry a horde it literally killed them

[charred cloud]

is it just me or do 6 warp charge stacks not reduce scriers gaze cooldown? seems like i am only getting the cdr from seer's presence

[spice oar]

No you silly man, just cause it can't blow you up dosent mean you are doing jack shit if your just spamming the ability and only having it up for 1 second at a time in 3 second intervals

[wintry quail]

yes. always. assail has always the stronger option

[wintry quail]

run solidity and shut up.

[keen pawn]

i'll test it

[wintry quail]

press r for half a second and have 0% peril

quelling is not hard

[spice oar]

Lmao calm down

[hoary badge]

I couldn't stand infinicrutch users before this patch

[crude cape]

untrue, your breakpoints are skewed on heresy and the dueling sword feels overly powerful.
On damnation + high shock or maelstroim, you get waves of elites and gunners and armored units so big and beefy, you couldn't hope to duel them all with a sword.

Smite + venting alternating while stacking up burn stacks stalls the entire wave of elites for you and your team, allows for rezzes, clean up, clutches and take spressure off while thinning, then you swap back to staff/sword.

You just only see people abusing infinite smite for no damage but infinite stun (which sucks and is boring and was broken, agreed) and you never actually learned how to use smite. its pretty cool when used this way

[wintry quail]

dueling sword one shots a mutant with a headshot on damnation. What are you talking about?

[celest tangle]

How was it a crutch when one hit would literally take you out of it, one break of your armor, you lost said charge

[spice oar]

If it ain't that hard why yall complaining so bad about infinite smite being removed, just quell right?

[steel flame]

If you run out of peril to smite with at a critical moment because you are just redlining it then yes it is a peril management issue

[hoary badge]

they locked everything away from our optimal killing field and most times we had to wade in for cleanup duty

[crude cape]

a mutant, but not a crusher, or 6 of them with 5 ragers and 5 maulers and a couple bulwarks

[wintry quail]

it was a crutch because ccing them makes the baby zealout cry because he missed his heavy attack

[crude cape]

also it doesnt seem to, in my testing, 1 shot mutants as easily anymore

[celest tangle]

Ah, that makes sense

[crude cape]

im not 1 shotting mutants with my old MK4 dueling swords unless im high peril AND warp stacks built up now

is that just me?

[wintry quail]

hit mutant in head, mutant die
hit crusher 5 times, crusher die
dueling sword is literally cracked

[keen pawn]

worked for me

[spice oar]

That ain't gaze gang

[steel flame]

You gotta hit them sweet headshots

[wintry quail]

yes. They literally buffed the dueling sword, AGAIN.

[crude cape]

you clearly dont play damnation man idk what to tell you

[wintry quail]

????????????

[steel flame]

It's still a oneshot

[charred cloud]

can you test on scriers?

[keen pawn]

oh my bad

I just woke up

[celest tangle]

the funniest part is that smite is useless against monstrosities too, so you couldnt do anyhting, what you wanted an actual tool to take out a horde coming while your team is fighting 2-3 monstrosities? NOPE NOT ANYMORE

[crude cape]

i just tested it. mutants have more hp now too, on damnation im not 1 shotting unless i have warp stacks or high peril

[idle aurora]

So, rampage finally useful? Or still bad

[wintry quail]

??????????????

[idle aurora]

on ds

[crude cape]

looks like a heresy board lol

[hoary badge]

cope

[ornate hamlet]

how 2 get scoreboard

[fresh reef]

oh good, my teammate will rescue our zealot who died because she ran ahead for the third time
teammate somehow manages to die to ranged enemies while inside her dome that she panic popped

amazing

[wintry quail]

mods

[ornate hamlet]

i require this

[wintry quail]

luv psyker

[ornate hamlet]

[celest tangle]

Damn we found the guy who has no actual response so he pulls the cope card out his ass

[keen pawn]

okay you're right it's not working

and I think I know why

[wintry quail]

nexus mods. Darktide. Get Darktide mod framework, follow the instructions. Download scoreboard with the dependency. enjoy your game :)

[charred cloud]

thanks for double checking. Man these bugs just keep piling up

[ornate hamlet]

thanks

[wintry quail]

<3

[celest tangle]

Its shocking how some people dont know how nexus exists

[hoary badge]

oh no you got me

[wintry quail]

some people play for fun and play casually, they aren't terminally online or play lots of games

[steel flame]

I love rampage on Mk4 along with uncanny. Uncanny for armor and rampage to melt through hordes and boost uncanny even harder on stuff during hordes

[keen pawn]

I don't think it's a bug, I think it's an oversight. So the reason it doesn't allow it to cooldown is because scryer's gaze doesn't start the cooldown until the effect ends. So it defaults to 0 no matter what.

[fringe sapphire]

Must have never played Skyrim heh

[celest tangle]

Trueeee

[wintry quail]

we're also at the point where skyrim is kinda out of the loop. EVERYBODY that played skyrim knows about nexus. But nowadays, not everyone has played skyrim

[charred cloud]

I just hope thats not working as intended

[wintry quail]

literally my point hahaha

[keen pawn]

I doubt it is

the best we can do is let them know

scryer's gaze is already the least picked ability, so

[plucky flax]

Nexus life time premium gang.

[idle aurora]

Because they mention that they changed cleave value for ds, so i wonder if rampage is much easier to trigger now

[celest tangle]

Ayyyyy

[steel flame]

I'll be real with you. If warp charges worked on scryer we would have a huge balance issue

[empty star]

does psyker staff only have the same ability on all staffs? im lvl 9 and unlocked the second staff but its still the same old ability, a bit dissapointing

[celest tangle]

Theres the force staff and surge staff

surge is lightning

force is well, PUSH

[plucky flax]

I created my nexus account in 2011.

[keen pawn]

Eh, maybe. I still refuse to use anything other than shriek.

[steel flame]

I just use push attacks to reliably proc it

[empty star]

i have the one that forms a circle and explodes upon release

[stuck bridge]

how is my surge staff

[celest tangle]

Thats the force staff

[stuck bridge]

did it survive the patch

[keen pawn]

there is 4 staffs and they're all very different.

but they all have the same main attack

[crude cape]

this is all my dueling swords mk4's ive tried since patch 14
notice it works when im up to 5-6 warp stacks, but not otherwise

[celest tangle]

Are there 4? Ive only seen 2 of them which are the Force and surge, ooooo wait the flame one is there too, whats the 4th?

[hoary badge]

they are all force staves

[steel flame]

If I was able to keep scryer going for 80% of a match I could probably triple the damage output I already do

[keen pawn]

voidstrike

[frigid sparrow]

voidstrike

[keen pawn]

the only staff you should care about tbh lol

[keen pawn]

with what

[bold flint]

theyre all force staves, the circle one is a trauma staff

[celest tangle]

Oooo thats the name, gotcha

[steel flame]

Laspistol/Mk4 saber. I'm already hovering at 600k every match with it

[sullen bobcat]

Is assail dead yet

[keen pawn]

it is what it is lol.

[celest tangle]

Nope

[keen pawn]

nope

[wintry quail]

still the strongest option

[sullen bobcat]

😦

[wintry quail]

always has been always will be

[celest tangle]

They made smite kinda dead

[sullen bobcat]

Every day we stray further from the emperor's light

[keen pawn]

voidstrike > assail

[frank moat]

They never fixed the Smite = Surge bug

[wintry quail]

voidstrike =/= blitz

[frank moat]

So now EP gives Surge a 125% damage buff

[steel flame]

This was before patch 14

[keen pawn]

fair enough

[crude cape]

anyone else seeing this on dueling swords? keep hearing people say they got buffed but feels like a nerf related to mutants

[brazen warren]

yeah, empower smite with creeping flames vent is busted for horde clear. I can actually kill shooter squads with it now!

feels good, no bullets allowed

[keen pawn]

you forget they buffed all enemies hp

[celest tangle]

So if they wanted horde clear, whyd they buff dmg, im confused

I mean CC

[fringe sapphire]

Played a few rounds with the "busted" Surge staff. Idk dood.. seems pretty damn in line with Voidstrike tbh..

[crude cape]

no, i know. I just heard today more than once "dueling sword got buffed" but nah, it was just compensation for enemy hp going up which was worse.
Are you guys struggling to reliably 1 shot mutants now on damnation?

[keen pawn]

well now it is lol, but that one is an obvious bug and not meant to be.

[keen pawn]

I mean dueling swords one shotting mutants with a charge attack is op af. I struggled with zealot to one shot mutants with a hammer, I had to charge it up and then do a heavy attack to reliably one shot them.

also

mk4 heavy attack can immediately combo into a light

so you can still kill them rather instantly

[crude cape]

ya i mean, agreed. I felt better at anti mutant than TH/eviserator for sure. TH has to charge and heavy,, much slower.
Even heavy sword can 1 shot them without a charge actually.

it did feel overtuned, i was just making sure i wasnt doing something/building wrong

[lapis bay]

What build?

[keen pawn]

dueling swords are love though, I'm surprised it's my favorite melee weapon in the entire game, and psykers get them which is silly how good they are lol

[crude cape]

honestly, i feel like its stronger vs crushers now lol

the special combo is faster now

so you chain heavy -special

[stuck bridge]

surge feels weird now siblings

[keen pawn]

this is the one that hurts me to look at.

[lapis bay]

Yeah can 4 shot a carapace with the right movements

[stuck bridge]

also mk4 dueling sword not killing mutants with a headshot is sad

[charred cloud]

hurts more knowing that it doesnt work on specialists at the moment

[lapis bay]

They nerfed it from 10% :(

[fringe sapphire]

I mean even with the bug, Voidstrike is still way better 😄 that's the point. Says alot imo

[keen pawn]

no shit? jfc

this. Is what I want to do.

[charred cloud]

feel free to check my work, but i tried with and without it on a mutie and it did the same damage

[keen pawn]

venting shriek should be in the middle tree. Annoyed it's not.

[charred cloud]

just be happy scriers isnt middle tree lol. I like bubble support psyker at least

[keen pawn]

I would too, but it doesn't matter how good of a psyker I am (and I consider myself above the average), I still find myself in situations where I blow up when I'm not paying attention, and I absolutely depend on the shriek to erase that mistake.

so because of that, I'm not as good as I could be I guess. But yeah I have to basically always go shriek or I just suck at the game.

[wintry quail]

get better and when you do, run telekine like the rest of us.

[spice veldt]

left side is soulblaze stuff, so i suppose there's that theme

[keen pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-again-rly-really-gif-24837012

pass. When everyone is using one thing, they see it on their metrics and then nerf it.

[wintry quail]

"I'm above average i think"
"When I ignore the central mechanic of the class, I die alot!!! why!!!"

[silent coral]

Its amazing how hard deimos slaps now

its the new old illisi

[keen pawn]

I like how you purposely pick fights with everyone on this discord, constantly harassing everyone and then make up quotes that nobody said.

[wintry quail]

"i consider myself above average"
"I still blow up"
if you can't control peril, you're not above average

[spice veldt]

😔

[wintry quail]

"i got called out for being wrong, now i'm attacking others"

[crude cape]

dude i wish

[spice veldt]

didn't know that peril control was the be all and end all criteria for being good

[lapis bay]

With cleave?

[wintry quail]

its the main mechanic of psyker

[summer prairie]

he is just talking nonsense

[wintry quail]

you can have a good car with no tires!!

[spice veldt]

seems to be the KKND of psyker chat

oh well

[carmine agate]

is there a mod to sort inventory into a single weapon type

[crude cape]

im still able to with warp charges if you wanted to build for it

but its even better now vs crushers with the new timing on the special chains

[summer prairie]

Stuff Searcher may be what you are looking for

[carmine agate]

thanks

[spice veldt]

ooooh that's a fast followup into the special

[crude cape]

ya its insane

i imagine with crit build + reposte in combat you gonna be just shredding through elites lol

[summer prairie]

if only the combat blade punch combo was that fast

[keen pawn]

ignore him, he's projecting and has inferiority complex.

[idle bay]

So Vraks III now sucks and IX is the way?
What to put on this one?

[stuck bridge]

yeah i just noticed in a game haha

nvm i like the surge staff

changes

it's a little weaker with some enemies

[charred cloud]

using mk iv special to stun mutie if you dont have warp charge stacks is the current play

follow up heavy, done

[carmine agate]

hmmmm

is it worth trying

[crude cape]

like what? with EP bugging and buffing it, it felt stronger all around to me

[ornate hamlet]

Voidstrike completely dead against armored targets now. I need a fully charged double crit headshot for it to kill Crushers. Nice balancing to make the overpowered trait (Surge) a necessity.

[crude cape]

will the special stun them out of charge?

no way lol

i thought they nerfed stagger not buffed it

[olive ember]

[crude cape]

it takes like 1 more shot i think lol

they still 2-3 shot

or less with surge proc

its still overtuned imo

[charred cloud]

pretty sure its still works if you hit them in the head, he staggers in psychanium at least

on headshot***

[crude cape]

staggering while standing and staggering out of the charge are 2 different things, im pretty sure

[ornate hamlet]

With crits maybe. Not without crits anymore.

[crude cape]

like staggering a rager in vs out of its combo

[spice veldt]

it works while they're charging

it's special-cased to just stagger mutants

[crude cape]

really? dueling sword special knocks them out of charge?

[spice veldt]

ye

[crude cape]

ok well

ya thats nuts

[fresh reef]

Smite still feels about the same, Psionics or not

[spice veldt]

dab on those mutants

[charred cloud]

def makes it feel less sad you cant one shot

leave that to the thammer

[hearty dagger]

Bro whut da heell

Dueling sabre truly is one of the weapons of all time

[idle bay]

Should i swap Headhunter for anything else?

[summer prairie]

I don't think not one-shotting crushers makes a weapon dead against armored targets, but that's just my view

[spice veldt]

i can't log into the game currently; does the MK2's 1st heavy still have lower damage than the mk4's heavies?

[olive ember]

Man surge staff is actually decent now that it does double damage

[summer prairie]

yes

[olive ember]

Pretty pog

[spice veldt]

god damnit

that's a shame

at least the 2nd heavy actually cleaves now

woo

[crude cape]

or just a heavy sword sorry quality isnt amazing on this. also it was patch 13 - i gotta see if this still works 😦
https://youtu.be/lanb25WPuok

[hearty dagger]

I'd say maybe that one where headshot crits do like 90% more damage might be better instead of opening salvo with headhunter

[summer prairie]

but DS lights have enough cleave to trigger rampage against most enemies

[charred cloud]

been meaning to try a heavy sword build at some point. But you know. Crafting.

[near wyvern]

https://streamable.com/i5ucxz

[crude cape]

dope

[near wyvern]

But then again you could just one shot them with Deimos H2. It's piss easy to get that with just the warp rider +10% default and +25 maniac perk

[charred cloud]

yeah but then i don't get to use the mk iv 😛

[pale pilot]

so how's the patch?

[crude cape]

with martydome on zealot its NUTS lol. the dmg stacking up really gives it that oomph it needs. The second half of that video you can see me 1 shotting muties, multiple per swing at times, with the side heavies, not even the strikedown heavy

i didnt like heavy sword pre-patch 13

bc rashad outshined it

but now it feels great

disclaimer*: haven't tried it since todays patch

[keen pawn]

so does MK4 dueling do more damage than MK5 or are they the same with the exception of the way they attack?

[steel flame]

Don't have a screen cap of my infernus dumdum pistol sadly

[pale pilot]

mk4 just does more damage on heavies than the other two

[fresh reef]

is it just me or are there a lot of bad players in standard damnation atm?

[keen pawn]

entire game

[pale pilot]

so does brain rupture feel better right now?

[near wyvern]

Voidstrike nerf which was not that huge, assail nerf/change that is not really noticeable. Monstrosity damage is now officially down the toilet. Laspistol does crazy DPS. Vraks 3 is a laser beam when you crouch.

Other than that just minor buffs here and there

[thin wave]

Nomadus is absolutely my weapon of choice. It’s like assail, but powerful against large targets at short-medium range.

[keen pawn]

they only buffed it because they scaled enemy hp, so it feels about the same.

[pale pilot]

wretched

[pale pilot]

monstrocity damage is in the toilet?

[inland sand]

so does anyone know what the purple assail things are?

[crude cape]

this does well for you? i have a friend who has psyker but doesn't like staffs. he likes the laspistol a lot, was gonna reccomend him this build and to try infernus + dumdum
you playing damnation + and auric damnation right?

[steel flame]

Always auric and maelstrom

[crude cape]

what changed about las pistol, just buffs?
Zazymomba reccomended infernus + dumdum, is that the best blessing combo

[pale pilot]

is soulstealer still good at the half power it is now?

[steel flame]

Those are crits

[inland sand]

ah ok makes sense, ty

[lapis bay]

Did they fix the FPS drop from Smite?

[keen pawn]

depends on the person's curios I think. But I mean it's still useful.

[radiant jungle]

Looking at the patch notes, the dome shield apparently has health and was increased 15->20, anyone know what that means?

[sonic coral]

they made it worse by adding back missing VFX

[stuck bridge]

wait so EP works with smite AND surge?

[sonic coral]

so yes they fixed it

[crude cape]

yes

[stuck bridge]

damn, just drop warp charges then?

[lapis bay]

fml, it's fun but it's horrible to my teammates PC's

[keen pawn]

yes, but not meant to.

[stuck bridge]

sheesh

[pale pilot]

does surge use up stacks of it?

[summer prairie]

The dome shield health was decreased from 25 to 20 despite what the notes say. But essentially ranged attacks do 1 damage to the shield per hit and they've 0.33s invulnerability period after taking damage. But if it's being shot by multiple enemies, it's the minimum duration that actually matters

[crude cape]

did it always do this, and im dumb? or was it just with todays patch?

i guess you never needed to b4 bc you would just poke them with heavy to kill

[stuck bridge]

oh wow EP jesus christ

they should||nt fix it||

[keen pawn]

I don't know, but I do know they went out of their way to buff all alt fire attacks on most weapons.

on today's patch

[slender geyser]

Voidstrike seems to be doing roughly 50% the damage for me

[pale pilot]

so what's a good surgesmite ep talent tree

[keen pawn]

they buffed enemy hp, so bars alone won't give you a clear picture.

my damage is the same, unless I'm shooting a mauler or a crusher

[near wyvern]

Now, yes. The fire rate and damage got increased.

[near wyvern]

Vraks 3 monstrosity damage got cutted to half, it used to deal 3.5+k sustained DPS (including reloads) now it deals around 2k

[lyric rapids]

Do we need to change the talents/gear set up after the parch?

[keen pawn]

only if you have kinetic presence which sucks now and is apparently bugged or something

[pale pilot]

hmmn. do surge staff lightnings do weakspot hits?

[keen pawn]

no

[vital flint]

What do you guys think, laspistol or kantrael mk 12 for a scryer's gaze gunker build?

[pale pilot]

'kay

[keen pawn]

las

[small whale]

lasgun

[spice veldt]

laspistooool

i recommend getting the fullauto mod if using the laspistol

[spice oar]

I find the assail rebalanced to be rlly noticeable tbh (i don't run the faster recharge talent tho cause I have dignity)

[vital flint]

Maybe I look at laspistol a bit wrong

While Kantrael is more of a fully "precise calm shoot elite"

Laspistol is more like a "oh shit" button?

[near wyvern]

Laspistol is perhaps the best monstrosity DPS ranged weapon available to Psykers at the moment. Gotta do a bit more testing but definitely will be on the top somewhere.

[keen pawn]

idk, some guy on here preaches the cult of the psyker laspistol and he does really good with it. So there's probably a reason for it.

[spice veldt]

laspistol has some variability baked in cuz of crits

[vital flint]

Yeah, I also want to run it based solely on the fact I'm not using it anywhere else

Ok, thx. It feels decent when coupled with the Scryer's gaze

And Kantrael works well on Veteran anyway

Btw, is it just me, or is it worth it to take precognition for scryer's gaze to then use assail to get 30 stacks very quickly?

[spice oar]

Laspistol is just like, really good

[keen pawn]

yeah that's fine, good for saving ammo I suppose. Just don't blow up.

[spice oar]

If you can manage to not blow yourself up, sure, otherwise run the 20% less peril talent

[ornate hamlet]

can assail critically hit

[pale pilot]

yep

[vocal sundial]

yes

[pale pilot]

assail can crit

okay surgestaff blowing things up on kill is really helping the feel of the weapon

what's the dumpstat for a surge staff?

[fresh reef]

quell speed

[frank moat]

a zealot just called me bobbo, lore nerds please explain

[long wharf]

alright siblings

surge staff is back on the menu

[gleaming flint]

anyone have any funny psycher names

[olive ember]

Laspistol apparently got buffed to kinda

[keen pawn]

flavorofthemonth

[olive ember]

Meme levels of broke

[olive ember]

Surge staff finally isn’t trash

It only took literally doubling the damage

[long wharf]

until they fix the EP bug, yeah

[olive ember]

[gleaming flint]

i dont get it so im going with sparkhead

[brave hazel]

I just tried out surge staff. It's still trash.

The patch notes say the it got the exact same treatment as the purge

[keen pawn]

Psykers with lasguns

[brave hazel]

They made it worse against all types of armor

[twilit hound]

purgatus staff is best staff

[brave hazel]

Surge hits the first enemy at full strength and 1 more for about 1/4? unless it crits

[foggy geyser]

Unyelding and flak were the only ones lessened

[brave hazel]

It's still the worst of all options

[summer prairie]

people are using it because EP stacks unintentionally boost surge damage by 125%

[brave hazel]

everything is better than it atm

[charred cloud]

i actually frequently use revolver on mine

[vital flint]

Tbh, I'm not sure if it's worth to spec into EP instead of WS just for this

[charred cloud]

although with the speedloading change i might not anymore...

[foggy geyser]

real?

[vital flint]

Yeah

You can see for yourself even in the psykanium

[hard solstice]

wait was there a patch recently?I don't see that in the patch notes. Did they actually double its damage?

[brave hazel]

It's a bug then

[long wharf]

it's absolutely a bug

[olive ember]

There’s a patch recently

[long wharf]

but a bug that makes the surge staff do actual damage

[raw drift]

With the new patch, does smite have the high damage state that it says it should have in the description?

[hard solstice]

lol, they squash one psyker bug only to introduce another one that will become new psyker meta

[olive ember]

Basically they made empowered psionics give smite 125% damage

But surge staff rmb also gets affected

So surge staff now does +125% damage with empowered psionics and smite

[foggy geyser]

Tested the surge with EP and yeah not wrong, still love using it without though

[twilit hound]

nice to know that, haven't played psyker in a hot miinute

[fresh reef]

mfw a bug makes something usable, never seen that one before

[hard solstice]

is voidstrike any worse off for the time between basic shots nerf, or is it still just as strong?

[olive ember]

Without bug yes

[copper torrent]

people relying on bugs to balance the game*

[brave hazel]

void is still great

[fresh reef]

ok but it's surge staff

[echo turtle]

What happened to the void?

[olive ember]

Yeah it’s kinda funny lmao

[foggy geyser]

good without it

[olive ember]

I rely on bug to make this staff not trash kekw

[fresh reef]

nuh uh

[olive ember]

Otherwise I just wouldn’t use the staff

[olive ember]

Void damage got slightly nerfed it’s still meta

[long wharf]

how slightly

[olive ember]

1000 damage to 900 damage carapace modifier from 1.0 to 0.75

[long wharf]

that's not too bad

[twilit hound]

dude its 100 damage its not that big of a deal

[long wharf]

makes it still very good instead of being obscenely good

[compact tangle]

Kinda new to game, could someone explain what the differences are between weapons that look the same?

Like I see we have access to 3 different Lasgun's (Mk II, Mk VId, and Mk VIIa)

[fresh reef]

So currently, the staves are ranked as follows
Voidstrike=Trauma>Purgatus>Surge
Yea or nay?

[hard solstice]

Imo I've never enjoyed surge staff, trying to aoe at a static location normally just means i catch a few trash mobs in it while 5 times as many as I killed come barreling towards me before I can get off another fully charged aoe. Now, if we could get vermintide 2's coruscation staff, where you leave aoe dot applying circles on the ground... THAT I would use for sure.

[long wharf]

no, Trauma doesn't belong on the list

[olive ember]

Pretty much yeah I haven’t used trauma in a while so idk what it’s rank is

[twilit hound]

damage, charge time, fire rate along with aim style

[olive ember]

Trauma was pretty good last patch

[long wharf]

I still hate the aiming with trauma

[olive ember]

Dunno this patch tho

I mean that’s a personal taste thing

[long wharf]

puts it at the bottom as I'll absolutely never use it

[olive ember]

Objectively speaking it’s pretty strong

[long wharf]

any list is personal taste

[fresh reef]

it was untouched, so basically still top tier

[dense crow]

Purgatus is mid unless you use a soulfire build

[long wharf]

it does decent damage

[fresh reef]

if you don't like its aiming then yeah it's pretty objectively dogshit

[spice veldt]

trauma is the melee maelstrom staff

[idle bay]

Ughmm EP now affects Surge staff? 0_0

[fresh reef]

you can't buff the feel of the weapon

[compact tangle]

Thanks.

[long wharf]

the secret is - it always did

[olive ember]

I mean when are you not using purge with soul fire

[fresh reef]

(except Surge, apparently. Gibbing does so much to help with that)

[olive ember]

Arco tell me how good this idea is

[long wharf]

because the surge staff and smite ability are the same attacks in code

[olive ember]

Rending shockwave + blazing spirit trauma

[hard solstice]

how does soulfire interact with the purgatus staff burning? Aren't they two completely different dot effects?

[long wharf]

just different FX

[idle bay]

By the Emprah.. and FS missed it 🙂

[dense crow]

true. Void is better unless you use soulfire build

[spice veldt]

i run exactly that so i say yes gr8 idea

[long wharf]

this should not be a revelation to anyone at this point

[ripe yacht]

Right y'all. 1, 2, or 3?

[dense crow]

no, purg applies soul fire

[fresh reef]

Anyone else notice that assail trails are a lot more purple this patch?

[spice veldt]

well I run focused channeling + blazing spirit outside of melee maelstrom

but blazing + rending on melee mael

[hard solstice]

well shows what I know, that's awesome, ive got to try that out now

[olive ember]

Why ugh?

Surge is finally not trash now

[charred cloud]

does trauma apply it too or just purg?

been ages since i've used it so i can't remember

[spice veldt]

trauma can, but only with the Blazing Spirit blessing

[charred cloud]

roger

[long wharf]

time to craft a surge staff to maximize damage

[fresh reef]

fashun

[ornate hamlet]

Have you used it yet today? It's immensly noticeable. Can't do anything anymore without crit double shots.

[summer prairie]

what can't it not do besides one-shot the tankiest enemies

[unique mist]

"Can't do anything anymore" what?

[pale pilot]

okay the new chaintiming for the drunk balls actually makes them feel nice and useful

[olive ember]

That’s a take

It’s about as valid as “surge staff is good without bug”

[ornate hamlet]

And the truth.

[pale pilot]

because you can just crap out like five of them super fast and supress anything

[unique mist]

Oh no, its slightly worse off at oneshotting the tankiest targets than before

[unique mist]

What bug

[summer prairie]

Can you make a list of weapons that one-shot crushers?

[pale pilot]

surgestaff inherits any buffs that apply to smite

[olive ember]

Empowered pscionics with smite gives surge staff 125% more damage

[olive ember]

Voidstrike

[unique mist]

i guess I'm running empowered psionics now

[olive ember]

It still can I’m pretty sure if you jump through enough hoops

[brazen warren]

if you want to kill crushers, hand cannon for 2-3 headshot kill, or VS for 4-5 headshot full charge kill

[olive ember]

Maybe I’m wrong tho

[brazen warren]

VS is probably more utility because it kills everything around the crusher and throws it on its ass

[olive ember]

Voidstrike could prob kill in 3 if you get lucky with crits tbh

[brazen warren]

fair, but I am thinking of average engagements with lots of other stuff going on

[olive ember]

And by lucky I mean statistically you should crit every like 3 shots

Cuz 30% crit

[pale pilot]

how hard are heresy aurics?

[ornate hamlet]

And with 3 seconds cast times per shot. 9 seconds to kill one target. 😄 Wow.

[long wharf]

alright siblings

[olive ember]

Well closer to like 45% crit, + true aim

[long wharf]

it's suffering time

[spice oar]

But surge staff is good without bug

[olive ember]

Not bad not bad hope for nexus n flurry

[urban echo]

Surge staff is really good

[long wharf]

strike one

[olive ember]

It is not good without bug lmao

[long wharf]

strike two

[urban echo]

It is really good for knocking stuff down

[olive ember]

Yikes

[long wharf]

I'm not even sure I want to continue

[olive ember]

Uh

[long wharf]

nah, not worth the mats

[olive ember]

Do you have nexus and flurry on surge

Like do you have the blessings banked

[long wharf]

this is my current best surge staff

I don't think I have t4 flurry nor nexus

[olive ember]

Maybe it’s worth fishing for a t4 but idk

[long wharf]

I do have t4 flurry, not t4 nexus

[harsh urchin]

I think 10% to elites is better than crit btw

[long wharf]

hard disagree

[harsh urchin]

It lets you hit a few breakpoints

For non crit

[long wharf]

critting more often is better across the board

and I'm trying to go crit-based damage with surge

[placid vapor]

Hey guys new to psyker. Which staff do you recommend with assail and force sword?

[harsh urchin]

Nah i think stuff dying 100% of the time

Rather than when you crit

[olive ember]

That’s what it’s supposed to do?

[harsh urchin]

Is significantly better lololol

[summer prairie]

going from 50 crit to 55 not that great

[olive ember]

You realize voidstrike is supposed to be a ranged horde clear weapon right

One shotting crushers was a meme from how utterly overtuned it was

[long wharf]

void isn't really horde clear

it's a railgun

line AoE

[olive ember]

Eh

[spice veldt]

12 cleave and no damage falloff

[olive ember]

It’s job was supposed to be horde clear

Just that it was shit before the class rework

Cuz 6 cleave and no damage

Now it actually does it’s job

[long wharf]

that was changed when Fatshark lowered the blast radius

[olive ember]

Didn’t they buff the blast radius

[long wharf]

nope

[olive ember]

Blast radius was a dead stat pre 13

But isn’t it actually important now

[long wharf]

nope

I just pretend there's 0 blast radius

I only use Void on big targets

[olive ember]

That’s uh

[long wharf]

and for stagger-locking monstrosities

[olive ember]

An interesting way of using void

You can just use it on everything

It decimated pretty much everything besides like crushers now I guess

[harsh urchin]

I mean

are you asking for help or just telling everyone you're the best

cuz dj khaled does that pretty well already

dont need another one

[olive ember]

Uh which force sword

Assail is pretty broke you can run wte and still be fine

Tho probably voidstrike

[unique mist]

Void is effective horde clear

[olive ember]

For anti crusher

[placid vapor]

Can you tell me for diamos and illicis? Idk how to spell

[unique mist]

On my assail psyker I stopped using assail as my main horde clear and use void instead, especially at the beginning of a horde or when the horde is super clumped up. I use assail when the horde is more spread out or I really need to create space

[dim parrot]

wait so, can I still run left skill tree with surge, duelling sword and do fine?

[olive ember]

Deimos is single target, l1->h2, illisi is for horde clear

[olive ember]

I mean that wouldn’t be optimal but yes

assuming you are playing with assail*

[dim parrot]

combined with good ol assail of course because why the fuck not

[dim parrot]

indeed

duelling sword/assail for horde and surge for big cunts

[olive ember]

Pretty much tho metaslave is def still voidstrike with assail and duelling sword

[dim parrot]

aight bet

[placid vapor]

Alr thank you

[terse rivet]

Is empowered smite any good?

[olive ember]

Surge double damage is a gimmick cuz you gotta run smite with empowered which is just

Lol

[dim parrot]

yea nah used to love void, but the way surg fires is just more satisfying imo

[ornate hamlet]

Literally delusional.

[olive ember]

Lol sure

Tho tbh it is true that voidstrike pre 13 was complete trash so it’s role is being redefined

One shotting crushers was it being completely overtuned

[terse rivet]

technically it wasnt one shotting it was 2 shotting

with surge proc

[pale pilot]

surge staff blowing up duded has greatly increased my enjoyment

[olive ember]

Idk why people are suddenly coming out of the woodwork lamenting about how voidstrike doesn’t one shot when every other psyker thought it was overtuned when it was

[terse rivet]

nah it deserved buffs

it should do double the damage it does now

[lapis bay]

worf?

[olive ember]

It really is just “psykers only care about two things: nerfs and buffs” moment

[warm inlet]

When are we getting 1.5s charge time Brain Burst though

[olive ember]

Uhhh both blessings kinda mid

[lapis bay]

ty, just making sure it wasn't just me being a shitlord

[terse rivet]

voidstrike should also chain void lightning to 10 targets near the initial target it hit doing equal damage to the initial strike

[dim parrot]

but stats and perks r good

[warm inlet]

And apply Soulblaze 10x

[olive ember]

Ooo void lightning sounds cool

[lapis bay]

I can swap bloodthirsty, what should I replace with? assuming crit build

[terse rivet]

it should also delete teamates entire characters if you cast it on them

[olive ember]

[olive ember]

Uhhh honestly for illisi I’d still go slaughterer

Slaughterer or unstable power

Precog ideally would’ve been replaced to but eh

[terse rivet]

like if that veteran who is talking shit about you using assail doesn't stop just cast voidstrike on him and it deltes his character

[dim parrot]

is rampage still good?

[hard solstice]

but voidstrike wasn't even nerfed this patch, as far as I can tell?

[olive ember]

Rampage is still bugged yes

[dim parrot]

generally did anything about the blessings change?

[lapis bay]

Yeah just had thisn one, replaced a lvl 1 blessing and a 2 perk-- ty

[olive ember]

100 less damage, carapace modifier from 1.0 to 0.75

[long wharf]

slaughterer and deflector

[terse rivet]

yes it was 90 damage and minus carapace modifer

[olive ember]

Voidstrike utterly ruined I tell ya

[dim parrot]

also daaamn right they changed forced swords right? should I farm or chill and keep using good ol duelling?

[terse rivet]

dueling literally just got buffed

[dim parrot]

oh damn

[terse rivet]

do you guys think

when psykers noot they overcharge peril and explode

oh my bad wrong thread

[gaunt stone]

How's force sword or should I continue with my dueling sword.

[dim parrot]

noot?

[olive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/pingu-noot-noot-penguin-head-bang-gif-17021033

[dim parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/pingu-noot-noot-penguin-head-bang-gif-17021033

lmao

[terse rivet]

cum,orgasm skeet skeet tiddly wink the little death

[dim parrot]

alright

[terse rivet]

noot noot

[dim parrot]

what ever floats your boat

[waxen igloo]

What's a good 2nd perk on revolver besides hand cannon

[olive ember]

Surgical

Psure

[lapis bay]

new trinket?

[hard solstice]

so what's the best all rounder staff now that voidstrike got nerfed?

[lapis bay]

I like Crucian roulette

[olive ember]

Sorry it wasn’t even 100 less damage

It’s like 90 less damage

[olive ember]

Voidstrike

Surprised I’m sure

[lapis bay]

fml

[olive ember]

That’s not bad

Well the perks are Myeh

But replace run n gun with nexus and you can replace the specialist damage with wte and you got a pretty decent voidstrike

[near wyvern]

Yup

[lapis bay]

ty

[ornate hamlet]

Still talking? Use it first before you say nothing changed.

[olive ember]

I can’t help but laugh when people think I don’t use the staves

It’s not hard to see the voidstrike is perfectly fucking fine

[waxen igloo]

Damage vs unyielding the best choice ?

[olive ember]

I didn’t think anything could top vets crying about chainsword l1 cleave nerf

But I’m greeted with a psyker crying about voidstrike nerf

[long wharf]

just finished a mission with the surge staff

it feels a lot better with the buggy damage

[olive ember]

It’s actually not bad with literally double the damage

Shocker

[tired estuary]

where's the guy that argued voidstrike + assail shouldn't be nerfed b/c its their power fantasy a few weeks ago

did they also get banned for slurs or what

[olive ember]

No clue there was a guy like that?

[gilded viper]

I’m not sure why assail was whined over so much to begin with

[long wharf]

also, smite generates way too much peril

[olive ember]

Cuz it was overtuned

[gilded viper]

Zealot and ogryn were right there

[long wharf]

it's almost unusable with how much peril it generates

[olive ember]

It’s better with warp charges but

Then you lose the double damage surge

At which point I wouldn’t run smite kekw

[gilded viper]

EP Surge is very funny

[long wharf]

it's objectively inferior for horde clear with EP

[olive ember]

Technically speaking without exploiting bugs, the surge staff build should warp charges and then smite and the peril resist helps with the peril gen

[gilded viper]

I still like the stagger of smite, bugs aside

[long wharf]

problem is you need Smite in order for Surge staff to be useful

Smite+EP = Surge staff usage

without either of those, there's no reason to use Surge staff

[gilded viper]

Did an auric mission earlier with 3 smite psykers, very funny

[olive ember]

Yeah hence why meta is still voidstrike with assail

[long wharf]

I haven't played with Assail yet

[olive ember]

Surge staff is now decent and competitive but you do need to run EP + Smite

[long wharf]

it was the Surge + EP bug that got me wanting to test it

[olive ember]

Literally the exact same except right click does more damage

Left click does 50 less but you still spam the fuck out of it

And the right click does more damage

[long wharf]

yeah, typical Fatshark not understanding their own mechanics

problem with Assail aiming is that the animation is slow

it needs to be faster

not instant, just faster

and there's no reason for holding the Assail aiming to generate peril

[twilit hound]

didn't you just say you didn't use assail

[olive ember]

This patch

[long wharf]

just for this last mission - I love Assail

and use it primarily

[gilded viper]

Parrots are amazing

[twilit hound]

ikr

[olive ember]

Don’t parrots reveal murder suspects

[twilit hound]

they are great and out live their owner 9 times out of 10

also they are insanely loyal

[gilded viper]

They also buy farts from alexa

[twilit hound]

true

[candid crest]

scriers gaze any good?

[gilded viper]

Not really

[twilit hound]

idk

[gilded viper]

Wish it was

[twilit hound]

mainly played using Palpatine hands

[olive ember]

For very specific off meta builds yes

[candid crest]

so suppose a noob psyker wants to grind weeklies - stun stick, shriek, warp siphon and assail?

[olive ember]

Smites value changes based on how much you value CC

Some people think smite is utterly useless

[olive ember]

Voidstrike, assail, shriek or shield, empowered psionics

Surge staff is still mid by itself

And it requires a double damage bug for it to be nice

Though some people love surge staff so

[candid crest]

psionics which node - 12.5% chance or guaranteed on elite kill?

[olive ember]

Elite

[candid crest]

ok, ty

[echo light]

idk if I'll ever swap off voidstrike because I need it to kill snipers in the event my team is incompetent

[ebon jolt]

Elite. That’s on top of the base 7.5.

[olive ember]

Eh you can always run BB or assail right click to deal with snipers

Voidstrike only gets kinda boring

[candid crest]

yeah, just stun stick is pretty much the only decent staff I have. need to grind plasteel to roll voidstirkes

[echo light]

BB is too slow I feel, can assail right click hit cross map?

[olive ember]

If you wanna run stun stick I’d say run smite with empowered psionics

[long wharf]

has anyone tested revolver Hand Cannon blessing still affecting Assail?

[olive ember]

People say it’s still the same

[candid crest]

why? legit question

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/excellent-happy-mr-burns-simpsons-satisfied-gif-16091269

[olive ember]

So surge rmb and smite are considered the same thing for wte reason

[long wharf]

they're the same attack

just different FX and target caps

[olive ember]

So that +125% damage from empowered psionics and the +1 target and 10% more damage from the smite modes both buff surge staff RMB

[long wharf]

yep

[candid crest]

huh, interesting, ty

[olive ember]

It’s a bug but

[candid crest]

on that note - trauma and purg still ok? and final question - which dueling sword mk? never used one

[olive ember]

It does mean for this patch if you use smite and empowered psionics once you get a stack your surge staff does double damage

[olive ember]

People think purge staff is weak now, Haven’t tested it yet but I thought it was perfectly fine before todays update

Trauma is strong if you build it correctly

It’s the hardest staff to build tho

Duelling sword run mk 4 I believe unless something changed this patch

[candid crest]

which is? brittleness + flurry? I do have 2 decent traumas open for rebless

[spice veldt]

purg feels fine; still an infinite cleave weapon so you can't really go wrong with it

[echo light]

mk4 heavy thrust is just so good, I suppose you could use the other ones if you have bad aim tho

[olive ember]

I’m gonna play it safe and say Warp nexus + blazing spirit… warp flurry + rending shockwave also work

[long wharf]

I wouldn't bother with Blazing Spirit on trauma

[olive ember]

Some people have been throwing around blazing spirit + rending shock but I haven’t run that yet so idk

[candid crest]

I am vet main, so aim is OK. On that note - played 2 psyker missions after pugging with vet and omfg the difference

[olive ember]

It’s really strong what?

[long wharf]

did it change?

[olive ember]

It’s been strong since January

[long wharf]

trauma's primary benefit is no target cap on the AoE blast and brittleness on targets

[harsh urchin]

@spice veldt wow new assail right click doesn't even one shot bombers LOL

[spice veldt]

tragedy

[harsh urchin]

still unuseable

[long wharf]

literally no reason to bother with blazing spirit on trauma

[harsh urchin]

no reason to use right click still

the problem is that it still uses normal targeting

[summer prairie]

blazing spirit trauma is definitely higher dps than the alternatives

[candid crest]

if you want safe why not terryfying barrage?

[harsh urchin]

so if you use it like BB, you're only gonna hit 1 target instead of 3

[spice veldt]

the thing that blazing spirit brings is making use of the outer blast radius for proper damage

[steel flame]

Personally I'm gonna actually have to test it before I recommend it to anyone

[olive ember]

Vet is technically the weakest class since the patch 13 but it’s due for a rework again where it gets keystones so much to say there

[summer prairie]

stronger now due to new creeping flames mechanics

[olive ember]

Apparently Arco uses it but he’s built different and borderline insane so

[echo light]

still feel like the cooldown on assail should've gone up, but the damage remains the same, if they wanted to nerf it

[spice veldt]

i run it on melee maelstrom

but otherwise i just run it on focused + blazing

[olive ember]

That’s what everyone said but fatshark being fatshark so yeah

[steel flame]

And he calls me a crack addict for how I play, so I'm not sure where that lands me on the scale

[spice veldt]

you weigh crack on pound scales

[olive ember]

Crit increases along with being able to take wildfire, PC, etc etc

[harsh urchin]

@lunar hollow i just blocked the first person i've ever done LOL.

a teammate had chaos spawn aggro, and teammate closed the door on him

killing him

[olive ember]

I think psyker base crit can go to 15 or 16% if you take the nodes and aura now along with +30% from nexus is basically a 45% chance per blast

[steel flame]

......congrats?...…i guess?

[olive ember]

I haven’t seen you play so uh dunno

Tho everyone whose played psyker long enough is probably a bit unhinged

Gotta be when one bruiser takes most of your health kekw

[steel flame]

I kinda play like a psyker zealot

[olive ember]

Wet tissue paper in terms of tankiness

[olive ember]

Def like Arco then

[echo light]

I'll play psyker for the dueling sword alone

[compact cargo]

dueling sword speedsters unite

[crude cape]

ever just been literally deleted from full hp by bursters? i guess i coulda pushed and dodged back, just so much going on i didn't realize 4 were jumping on me lol

[echo light]

being able to one hit mutants is so good, on top of being able to one headshot basically every elite besides maulers and ragers

while still having a decent horde clear and a super long dodge

[devout flume]

anyone notice how you can't one shot scab ragers anymore with brain burst? do you think that was intentional, cause you can still do it to dreg ones (on heresy, haven't tried it on damnation)

[olive ember]

Typical toughness psyker L

90 toughness psyker FOREVER @amber vine

Smh

[crude cape]

oof no way

i gotta call back up for my ultimate toughness psyker stan bro, @spice veldt

[olive ember]

Idk I run 90 toughness on my psyker lmao

[crude cape]

we need to have a face off, toughness vs hp

right NOW

but ya

[humble bolt]

Why not both

[crude cape]

hp curios mighta saved me there lol

[crude cape]

https://tenor.com/view/how-dare-you-james-franco-gif-7829182

idk if he still does

[spice veldt]

200 toughness babeeeeeeee

[sour bison]

it doesnt oneshow gunners too

[spice veldt]

taking at least 1 hp curio to get over 200 hp is prob a safe call though

[sour bison]

[crude cape]

but beginning of patch 13 arco was such a toughness stan, he was running a build to give up his keystone for more toughness nodes

not THATS a toughness simp

[spice veldt]

the crack wore off and I'm not doing that anymore 😔

still 200 tough

[crude cape]

haha

how are you getting to 200 actually

mind sharing? bc thats dope

im at 171 but i have shitty curios lol

still got deleted by those bursters there, probably my fault for having a discord convo while playing maelstrom lol

[spice veldt]

+17% and +5% from every curio

and taking 4x toughness nodes on the skill tree

120 base toughness with +66% from curios equals roughly 200 when rounded up

[crude cape]

im probably missing a toughness node or 2

[spice veldt]

tsk tsk tsk

[crude cape]

[olive ember]

Look at this fucking COPE

[crude cape]

im shocked, shocked i say

[harsh urchin]

you really want to get out of the 2 poxburster breakpoint lol

[crude cape]

i probably should do this

[harsh urchin]

otherwise you'll die sometimes to some real bullshit

like your teammate fucking up a push

or shooting a pox you're hitting

[olive ember]

90 toughness psyker

For real gamers

[crude cape]

i stand by the director assassinated me there and its not my fault, no skill issue, no evil hp curios

[olive ember]

SMH

[crude cape]

i accept no responsibility in that death

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[spice veldt]

why would the director do this to me

[crude cape]

exactly

[spice veldt]

clearly when I mismanaged my stamina and didn't have enough to push the burster, it was the director who did it

(this has happened to me >3 times on psyker)

[olive ember]

dies after getting shot by sniper
toughness psykers: “There’s nothing I could do”

[crude cape]

in all the hours you've played? i think ive done that 3 times this month lol

i sprint a lot

maybe not just on psyker, i do play all 4 classes but in general

[ebon jolt]

Seems intentional to me based on the patch notes. Scab ragers HP increased by 50% but no armor modifier change to flak for BB/BR. While dreg rager HP buff was offset by the 50% increase in maniac damage.

[spice veldt]

i'm usually careful around bursters except for when I'm not

[olive ember]

You don’t use peril blocking do you

dies of cringe

[crude cape]

me too im super careful, i never get deleted by them while full hp and even through a yellow overshield, nope

[spice veldt]

i use kinetic deflection but i just sprint a lot

[devout flume]

Yeah I wonder if they forgot about scab ragers habing flak armor, but you're probably right

[olive ember]

Oh

True

[spice veldt]

brain rupture does 100% adm or more to flak doesn't it

just use your other weapons for em if brain burst's DPS is proving too low

[crude cape]

ya kinetic deflection goated, been a stan since launch personally i never used to rock the toughness dmg decrease bc blocking tons of shit was more fun lol

[spice veldt]

i was a kinetic shield stan but it's out of the way for my tree path now

[devout flume]

I'm guessing it's 100 percent, I just find it funny you can rupture the dreg one but not the scab with one shot

[olive ember]

HAH

[crude cape]

whats ur main talent build you using now, and you still maining trauma + dueling mkIV?

[ebon jolt]

Considering the breakpoint changes for other enemies I’m willing to take the L against scab ragers specifically.

[crude cape]

mind posting the skill tree when you're in game next arco?

the only build ive ever tried from you i didnt like was the no keystone one 😛
but i used your old illisi build (minus kinetic shield) for months lol

[spice oar]

man i hope they fix dd and gaze i wanna gunker

[rotund dagger]

Is this patch fixing the infinite smite

[ebon jolt]

I can’t believe that DS Mk4 buff went through.

[rotund dagger]

If so I will be very sad

[wanton sandal]

just ran damnation with a 15 who was dead 90% of the game and a half decent 22 who just kept blowing up

why are people like this 😭

emperor preserve me

[steel flame]

Safety is for cowards

[ebon jolt]

Also can’t believe that MG1a buff went through. So good.

[steel flame]

All the toughness all the time

[crude cape]

https://tenor.com/view/im-doing-my-part-serious-stare-gif-11979677

[spice veldt]

ye, though trauma is my support weapon as usual

[devout flume]

Sorry for my bad brain which one is that?

[spice veldt]

I'm abusing assail as usual

[crude cape]

ah didnt know you were on assail

[steel flame]

I almost turned him into a gunker

[wanton sandal]

didnt assail have 12 shards before the patch?

[steel flame]

Was so close

[crude cape]

trauma is still goated, but surge staff has felt really nice too for me

[wanton sandal]

i dont know if i just skimmed over it in the patch notes but we only got 10 now

[long wharf]

only ever had 10

[spice veldt]

only on enhanced blitz maelstroms

[devout flume]

I would tell you if i knew how to count

[wanton sandal]

huh

thought we had 12 but im probably just a schizophrenic

[steel flame]

#justpsykerthings

[spice oar]

irl peril

[void mural]

Is there something wrong with matchmaking currently? I've been sitting in the queue for a few mins, usually it starts a fresh lobby for you once it can't find any open lobbies to join

[olive ember]

I’ve only played in premades today so dunno

[quasi junco]

Whats best psyker melee weapon to defend against trash hordes with? Catachan?

[wanton sandal]

quickplay or queueing for a mission?

[wanton sandal]

mk1 claw or illisi

[void mural]

I've tried both, same result

[spice oar]

id say either ds or catachan yeah

[olive ember]

Probably claw or illisi

[quasi junco]

ok ty all 🙂

[spice oar]

i mean illisi howd i forget

[olive ember]

BM caxe also good

If that floats your boat

[wanton sandal]

very weird. inb4 "check firewall" and "networkk issue :"

try restarting the game

[quasi junco]

wow Surge staff is so awesome now, holy smokes

[wanton sandal]

i love blowing heretics up with the force of god(emperor)

[olive ember]

They should just make surge staff +100% damage by default

So I don’t have to take empowered psionics smite smh

And I can take warp charges and like assail or some shit

[urban echo]

It’s actually good now

[olive ember]

Yea

[odd flax]

how do we feel about the new patch?

[steel flame]

Laspistol go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[olive ember]

Nothing rly

Voidstrike got tuned down so it’s not just hilariously op

Assail feels the same

[ebon jolt]

They changed the armor modifiers. I’m not at my computer right now and can’t pull up the exact patch notes but I’ll ping you later after I get back. They increased the carapace modifier from 40% to 60% for instance.

[odd flax]

what do you mean lol

[olive ember]

Surge feels nice now

Laspistol a bit broke rn

Might actually be best boss damage for psyker

[amber vine]

ok but taunt should do more

[olive ember]

Depends on how good vraks 7 is

[spice oar]

It rlly good

[trail forge]

what can i do to improve this

[olive ember]

Yes gib me overshield smh

[odd flax]

oh nice, just saw las pistol changes

[spice oar]

I got a god roll and it one shots everything except carapace

[trail forge]

taunt?

[ebon jolt]

Don’t be sleeping on the MG1a! Its damage was buffed by 50%, ammo reserves were buffed and it has access to deadly accurate and infernus.

[amber vine]

Don't mind me I'm just giving derpy shit

[trail forge]

wait what did they do to laspistols

[olive ember]

I had a bad take on taunt

It happens

[trail forge]

does anyone know what to do to improve this

[olive ember]

Uh

For purge both perks are kinda mid

Barrage to nexus

Carapace to flak

Infested isn’t ideal but that’s how it goes

Oh yikes I just looked at stats

[spice oar]

Honestly idk

[olive ember]

Yeah no you will want to get a better staff eventually

[spice oar]

I would honestly settle for that staff after changing it a bit

[olive ember]

Nah the burn is bad

That’s literally like 10% less damage iirc because it doesn’t hit the breakpoint

[spice oar]

Math sucks

Embrace khorne

[olive ember]

Khorne would want you to kill better

[spice oar]

Khorne would start snoozing on his throne

And then go fight khaine or smthn

[trail forge]

ugh im never gonna get a good staff

[olive ember]

You want 76+ burn and max cloud radius

Uh probably flak + maniac/unyielding/ maybe crit chance

And then warp flurry 4 and warp nexus 4

[olive ember]

Not bad

[shut matrix]

What do we do now

[olive ember]

@spice veldt damage still considered dump?

[shut matrix]

How could they do this to us

[spice veldt]

idk maybe

psykers truly are the most oppressed

they took our sneakers from us