#psyker-class
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Also don't explode filling the elevator with assail.
it's the one people got from being subscribed to one of warhammer's websites
do*
Voidstrike is just explosions for 20 minutes and thats why its best staff
psyker gameplay is 33% forgetting you don’t have psykinetic’s wrath on and fucking dying as a result
what perks/blessings should go on a surge staff? I can see flak and warp flurry, anything else?
nexus and maniac/cara
Wait, is soul blaze the same as the DoT given by the coruscation staff?
Asking because of this talent and I'm trying to get the 5 minute max warp charge achievement
only blessings worth getting on surge staff are warp flurry and warp nexus. for perks you'd probably want flak/carapace/maniac
Does flak give any breakpoints on the first target or second?
I’m honestly not sure, I can find barely any discussions on the reworked surge staff
I was just testing it out with two very similar surge staffs, one with flak and one without, and the one with flak is usually able to kill the secondary flak armor target in one less zap
If you have warp charges it does on crit on some of the elites.
Edit to add warp rider
doesn't seem to make a major difference on the main target though so I'd probably go with carapace + maniac then
am i supposed to hate the layout of our talents?
but that's just me messing around in the testing room so I could be wrong
psyker's tree gets to be able to go to the other side with no point penalty cost in exchange for being locked out of stuff
it ees what it ees
being unable to take venting shriek from assail without being forced into certain selections does make me sad, but I'm content with the shield ult
rip bozos

which trauma blessing combo is better: flurry + rending shockwave or nexus + blazing spirit?
I got that on the first try, really easily, and probably every other match after where I used the same setup I would've gotten it otherwise. Just, it's only easy if you do it on damnation or auric. It's pretty difficult on lower difficulties. Been using this setup since, as I like it a lot more than my previous scriers setup. Less attention on peril is more attention on everything else.
people are prob going to say blazing spirit, esp when classes have easy access to a bunch of rending
I personally run Rending Shockwave... along with Blazing Spirit because I use my trauma as a support staff so Flurry is basically unused
and I just fish for crits with True Aim so I don't need warp nexus
well, Blazing Spirit + Rending Shockwave would be what i'd bring to melee maelstrom in particular for a certain synergy (Rending Shockwave + Perilous Combustion)
basically of the same mindset. think arco's setup is fine still, think blazing trauma is good but I still run the classic rending/flurry. just really a question first of if you are taking soulfire talents and warp charges. I am in EP so I just stuck with the regular setup for now mostly.
Are there any builds that want as low warp resistance as possible?
tbh if you are edging your peril, warp resistance doesnt matter, since you will go back to 100 after every secondary use anyway
I finally got my psyker a better surge staff. The previous one had like 42% quell speed. :/
Awesome. Thanks for this
Glad you also made it an assail build. I prefer it over smite
I probably just didn't talent tree it right. Didn't stop a lot in the matches I was in.
I could've done more just using my staff.
Smite save lives
Not mine unfortunately. Skill issue.
Is smite just an aoe stun...?
Low dmg
But yeah
AOE stun
You can mix it with the other attack tho
When you release it it push enemy down
Just double tap them

am I wrong to hate psykers that use nothing but smite the whole game
because I just went through two matches with someone who did that, and it was absolutely infuriating, even as a psyker myself
I use Chainsword and Revolver
like dude, that sword you have strapped to your back, rusting, will kill those 3 bruisers faster than tickling them to death with smite
and this was in damnation histg
Smite is use to crowed control man
If your team is competent
It rocks
If not?
Do it yourself
Do the murder
yeah, but also it steals everyone's frames, can't kill the horde if I can't look at it lol
I don't like it because of how it can melt people's computers.
Like I see players avoiding looking at active smite just so the game fucntions.
yup
If fire and bleeding are happening on top of smite, RIP.
So I use it and I appreciate others using it, BUT just stun locking for extended periods is annoying.
I...might need to work on my psyker game
or better yet, zealot shroudfield crit on a poxwalker
Low health ranged? Charged shot
I mean I think its the psycology of the voidstrike
The LMB attack goes "pew" while the alt fire goes BWOMPH
Also rmb has a higher hitbox making it easier to hit
It's prudent to make sure it's dead. Double tap.
If the enemy is already dead but still standing on their last breath... shoot em again
They're not dead unless I see their entire torso disintegrate into a shower of blood
I wonder if any Siblings here use gun instead of staffs
I sometimes use revolver. I am mid with it.
As a loner psyker I can tolerate some heresy, but this is still going to the inquisitors
Revolver is too good
Vraks user here
Smite Psyker using guns is quite good ngl
Interesring combo, whats your playstyle
I was using smite with revolver and creeping flames. I have just recently switched to assail tho.
Because my only peril generation was smite, and holding that down to keep peril up was a hinderance.
Tho I constantly am in fear due to lack of CC now, I like the the change.
people might hate my playstyle
but it save my team 99% of the time
and finish mission is a go to
Smite is good for when things go terribly wrong.
Indeed
My Chainsword is pretty good as well
Revolver blessing not so much
or at least I THINK its good

No clue about chainsword
anyone have any ideas
what the chances of getting a T3/T4 blessing is
when u upgrade from epic to legendary?
Question: If there is a Monstrosity and there are 4 players who use Chainswords with Bloodletter t4 Blessing on it at the same time - what will happen to Bleed stacks on that mostrosity? How much stacks it gets?
Idk the exact chances, but it's higher going to orange than it is going to blue
yes that much is certain
seems to be
I’m waiting for balance changes to settle a bit before gun
50/50 tbh
Like vraks 3 is current best boss dps for psyker but it’s getting nerfed next patch so vraks 7 will be best psure
not sure if they apply 4 differents stack of blood or stack on the same
the limit that blood letter can apply up to is 16 stacks iirc
there's the Debuff Indicator mod if you want to check it for yourself
Filthy modders
When will we have mods so ladies finally have chests
I play the game as the devs intended
Broken?
I RUN to the mission terminal and then RUN to the armory and then shuffle to hadron
AS THE DEVS INTENDED
I like how you approach Hadron with style
changing perks is SO expensive
I wish I have a better Revolver
Same ^^
I tend to miss single enemies when just trying to finish them off like a hound after a pounce
Just go Duelling Sword, same thing lol
Duelling Sword cant go Deflector
deflector + uncanny strike for assail rend, excellent combo
Basically you only use your sword for blocking
Got the penance. Thanks @ripe crater
Now I can go back to being pistol psyker.
Nice 🙂
Does uncanny strike still apply rend to assail if you used your staff/gun as the previous weapon?
Pretty sure it does yes
only if your melee is the weapon currently held out
Then you cannot use assail. It should apply without it out.
It's one of those gimmick glitches or w/e you wanna call it
nah
I prefer it this way for quickswapping
and reigns this interaction in instead of being globally applying
and there's still be the choice of "which weapon should assail inherit the perks/blessings of"
Nah, been like that since old vt games
Any power/stat is calculated from your currently equipped weapon
When I get in melee with my psyker I get bonked rather easily. I'm guessing this is just a skill issue and not related to the psyker as such? Using an illisi force sword with deflector perk.
Illisi is fairly weaker now than pre patch 13 iirc, tho it is getting buffed next patch
whatcha getting bonked by; just the usual non-elite stuff?
As for getting bonked uh that’s kinda just experience based
Tho it doesn’t help that enemies hit harder now
Like one bruiser bonk, with low toughness*, is like half my health, maybe the entirety of arco’s (he runs toughness I run hp)
Hordes. When I get swarmed and don't hear them running up to my back I swear it just takes two hits to take all my toughness and most of my health 😄
prob just stick to walls
That’s because, without toughness DR or anything like that it is 2 hits to delete your toughness and most of your hp
cling to em and you'll only have to worry about 180 degrees around you
Eh I’d say if you are using a force sword just spam dodges
You really depend on movement and dodging for survival as psyker. Try to learn the audio cues and dodge
Probably bad advice but
Even with next patch force swords will have 5 dodges
So if you really aren’t sure of the timing just spam a dodge away from the closest enemies
And just get used to when and where to dodge
Cuz sticking your ass to a wall isn’t always going to work I’m ngl
The wall loves my ass tho

to avoid getting his in hordes I'm basically always moving around side to side and listening for that "swish" sound effect to dodge
Noted
sticking to walls is a fairly easily applicable piece of advice though
can't always do it but if you can, all you need to do is just walk to a wall
no mechanical or experience requirement for it
True but that means he’s gonna crumple the moment a mutant or bomber or flamer etc forces him out of position
just walk to a wall
That's all good advice, but basically I need to git gud 😄
Guess I need to learn to melee better with the psyker
Which perk should I change that specialists to? Maniacs? Or just upgrade it?
well the advice was targeted towards protecting against horde enemies
Do you need to use the special often with an illisi?
Have you only played as Psyker @dull root ?
Psyker is the squishiest class by far imo so it’s really just learning how to not get hit, especially if you come from a class like zealot or ogryn
I think my advice is appropriate for the scope of the question
Throwing in the odd push can also help if you're getting overwhelmed by the horde
You can, but you can also just chain heavies
also the occasional block or push can help a lot
No also vet and zealot to 30
About as effective
special spam is the ideal way to use the illisi
Next patch you can light spam.
if not using the special much, just use the Deimos instead
Eh fair enough
Cleave increase. 
Meleeing as either class isn't all that different from each other, and if you feel more comfortable with a chainsword you could ease into things using that first.
Enemies are constantly trying to circle around you. It's easy no to see or notice when one gets behind you/
Also enemies can stagger their hits. So while you interrupt or kill one, another is already swinging.
Pushes, dodges, push attacks, back to the wall, chokes points, looking for the enemy raising its attack arm, etc can all help.
That pogryn is cursed

Situation awareness, git gud, build optimizing sounds like things you need to work on. No judgment or anything 🙂 I am learning as I go as well, I didn't even notice the melee dodge audio cues until after my first lvl 30.

If you can get the creature spawner, you can set up training for yourself.
Wait it’s almost 5 AM
My alarm clock is set at 6 AM
Well frick
Ima go sleep now
Haha dies
🫂
I wonder how well Kinetic Deflection and the Claw Sword's parry work. 🤔
any of my psyker connoiseurs down to complete some penances? 
you become a god gamer
Thanks for all the encouragement and the tips
I'm gonna have to work on my awareness and gameplay then!
Decent headfonts that support directional sound - will help you a lot with awareness
does toughness regeneration speed from multiple curious stack?
Forum Karens should probably start screeching in forum posts that good headphones = cheating. It's basically 360 wall hacks
yes, but it only applies to the regen you get from being in coherency with allies
it affects how soon after taking a hit the regen starts, and how fast the regen is
What perks do you guys prefer on a surge staff?
thank you
Flak/Carapace/Maniac/Unyeilding of your choice
and crit chance
its a pity your one has bad crit bonus, that matters a lot for surge staff
all of that
Does it? it seemed to matter the least on inspection
Or is the crit damage from crit bonus calculated differently?
Play around with your build. You might have some breakpoints for single crit or something if you replace the specials perk.
inspect the weapon, then mouse over the yellow bars, it shows exactly what they do
Yeah thats what I ment by it seemed to matter least on inspection
I know warp resist isnt huge on the surge staff, but the thing builds peril really quick
Is perilous combustion good? I tried it in the meat grinder and the burn damage doesn't seem very much
Yeah it's our best talent.
Just played a recon infernus gunker
, I'm not sure what to think, it's decent..?
It rapidly stacks up after 2 elites are die
Its better as you go up in difficulty. On damnation and especially auric its very useful
8 stacks of soulblaze is more than enough to kill any non elite
did you try killing more than 1 elite?
No
The idea is you trauma/void like a bunch of grouped up elites, then everything else dies afterwards
Or revolver start popping heads
the burning from just 1 elite kill won't do much, but it grows to much more with multiple kills
It's pretty good for revolver because the burn lets you hit some 1 shot BPs
If there a bunch of gunners stack up for example
I saw that it might get nerfed from 4 to 3 stacks of soul blaze next patch, will it still good after that? Why the nerf though?
It's broken af
because it's probably the single strongest perk in psyker's tree
Because it's currently too strong
"if this perk doesn't kill 1000 enemies passively for free, that means its trash"
6 stacks can barely kill bruisers, if you have the appropriate +flak/unarmored perk
Even after the nerf 6 stacks kills poxwalkers from full HP
And all shooters
It's both
Just not bruisers I guess
It's too strong and free
I see
even if it was a really awkward position, it'd basically always be the best choice to invest whatever points necessary to get it
Does the burn from PC add on to the burn from purge staff?
yes
Oh
Only works if the last hit you do to the elite is the purg damage and not the soulblaze damage
the thing is, on lower difficulty where you only kill <10 elites on the entire mission, you won't see much value
but on higher difficulty where you're killing 100+ elites per mission, it's crazy high value
It should be in every build no exceptions 
The nodes before it are also premium so it only costs 1
is kinda a shame that they're gonna gut the talent because of how accessible it is
instead of keeping it strong but making it something you have to build for
Tfw Brainburst line doesn't have reduce movement speed penalty when quell the peril
Sadge 
Rogue Trader vibes
Leather jacket and leather pants add more RT vibes 🙂
I'd like to join RT cosplay contest but unfortunately I am stuck at work...
You are with us in spirit.
Same (stuck at work) but have all the dick pics costume pictures at the ready 🙂
How headgear changes this outfit from "officer" into a "goon"
Found one pic (with other fireteam of mine present as well). Though, usually I don't wear that hat - it is just stuck in the wardrobe, so imagine it being on the head.
you guys remember when Psyker took skill to play? I miss that
Uhh it ain't easy playing assail.
My 3 boys 😊
y'all need the For The Drip mod so you can change the colors even more
that's very funny
absolutely brain dead ability
It's as funny as veteran pre patch with bolter and autopistol. Xd
But they get to do it for a year.
Yeah. I have two newbie player friends of lvl 12, and well, I'd take two bots any day if I really want to play for result... Assail doesn't save them on "malice".
All the veteran players cry to FS so much harder about psyker assail compared to the other 3 classes complaining about veteran pre-patch.
Vet main. Just playing as psyker myself.


Thinking out of box.
What is reliable way to kill chaos spawn as psyker? Buffed brain burst?
No think of the BOX and play Ogryn - to chiilout and relax while purging heretics.
Oh ? Where do I find this ?
I love ogryn for personality alone. And belt-fed stubber.
Aren't you vet main tho?
rending dueling sword I reckon
Nope, I have no main
Well what's your highest leveled character?
probs Vet, but not by a lot
Deimos with Unstanble and Uncanny blessings. Charged poke deals a LOT of damage
Axe also works
Sorry, as ogryn only true way is the BIG BOOMBA (like "bomb" but with accent on the "boom").
BOX is undying classic 🙂 Cluster bomb
many booms!
Damn, I certainly have to learn reliable dodge/block... I absolutely hate spawns.
No one forces you to play op stuff on psyker anyway (assail, voidstrike). The other options are more than adaquate to clear maps.
Duelling sword is very good against monster (not bonbon).
I love duelling sword for poking the eye of charging mutie.
Very satisfying!
A long deserved break from the monotony of power sword mk3.
It's okay power swords getting buffed back up.
Psyker without op stuff is prob one of the weaker classes.
I mean you can have ~200+ Toughness and ~500 Health and powerful build on Ogryn easily. And no one complaning about Ogryns beeing OP.
Vet mains cry so hard they are buffing all their kits.
Likely more fun anyways.
I do
They're just boring
I know. But I played with mk3 all the time because it is my best one on vet anyway.
Ogryn is really strong right now.
Add one easy to use ability and tons of players starts bitching about it - resulting in opposite effect - assail will be less spammable but more porwerful. Beacuse Fatshark.
Wait until Smite will start dealing damage...
Well, ogryn being OP is lore correct. Like, he is the only character able to tear arm of spacemarine away from spacemarine.
it's on the darktide modding discord, same as the weapon customization mod
like that mod, it's clientside only, you can't see what other people do, even if they have the mod, but it's still cool
Fatshark did ogryns in correct and satisfying way 🙂
Though Ogryns must be immune to poxhounds
But also remember that damage is everything.
I just carried map with 3 psykers and a vet. 2 psykers kept getting downed then died. One of them was a void strike psyker and did more damage than me despite them being on the ground for most of the map.
Ogryn should be able easily kill it just by poking finger in it's head
I want a Knuckles for Ogryn
Well, there are not a lot of things in DT, ogryn can't kill with poking finger in its head/eye.
Crusher's 2-handed concrete+rebar maul.
...
just had a game where i did half a million damage
in less than 25 minutes
and it was not high intensity
wtf man
I want to introduce my fists to heretic faces
the directive ai is just too overenforcing in this game
You can always slap the enemies face with the open palm. Death of ~10 slaps.
I don't think using bare hands to slaps armored heretics would be a good idea
Unless you’re an ogryn
Knuckles however
your ogryn finds that out if punches/slaps carapace armor
give it a shot
Its like put fists
On your fists
With ogryns strength there would be enough concussive power to damage even armored enemy.

You sound like an ork. And think as one...
Ogryns are the orkiest oomies
But, as Rannick and Grendyl do not belong to Ordo Xenos - this is not our problem.
Objection: orkiest oomie is Bale Eye.
Oh ofc forgive my heresy oomiest ork
It works well for orks
Ogryn is just a not green ork

Rations taste better after ripping a chaos spawn in half and so it shall be
isn't it da Emprah
I run dueling sword + autogun with non infinite surge and gaze and still top score every single game
Nah, da Emprah is the Gorkiest oomie... or the Morkiest. Hard to say.
Brutally cunning, or cunningly brutal? A matter of theology.
You can presuade orks that two-headed aquila - have each head representing Gork or Mork.
Post your results.
semi bricked but useable

not the best stuff for fighting through the auric maelstorm but this work for me. Not sure about soulfire damage it deals feels a little bit low
What do you mean by that, and how did it help you do half a million damage?
the directive ai is spawning way more mobs than usual
more mobs = more hits from void staff
Dont worry, they are tuning up the director
So the faster u go the more shit gets thrown at you
XD
Enjoy ur 800k damage
Technically the tuning up already exists expect its pathetic
1 special for moving to a new “area”.
Incredible.
What Halloween event gonna be ?
Theres gonna be an event? I thought the game was gonna get left alone for another few months
guys should i replace riposte with uncany strikes and block efficiency with maniacs/unarmored/flak?
Nothing we would know of at this point. It’s been mentioned by Catfish I think that there is something in the works besides Patch 14, but there hasn’t been any explicit details about it still.
I imagine it will have something to do with Halloween around the corner… it might include a player frame for what I know of past events organised by FS, but hopefully there’s more
I don’t think there will be a Halloween event. It’d be kind of crazy for them to do one with such little time remaining and no announcement a decent bit beforehand
If they put other Chaos faction in the game in Halloween period it would be fun
Or nurglings hunt
Would be funny
FS doesn’t really do announcements way ahead of time of things happening. They just happen, most of the time
They said they'll add more enemy type into the game right?
I wondered if its gonna be Xenos or Chaos
Yeah but I guess in my mind the point of events in games is usually to get people excited to play, so doing one without drumming up any hype seems odd even for FS
but it is FS so who tf knows with them
Can you imagine they put Necrons in here
We're fucked
But its probably a variant of Nurgle stuff or Genestealer
I’ve seen a lot of people speculate genestealers as the enemy type they’ll add
Speaking off
Is Beast of Nurgle a lesser daemon ?
Or just mutated human
I don't know much about Nurgle stuff
dont think its a mutated human
Its a lesser daemon
Gamer that drank too much Mountain Dew and became slug
They are directly connected to nurgle himself. Beast of nurgles are basically like dogs that want to play.
But they shouldn't have a body no?
Unlike Daemonhost
40K lore can be confusing at times
Daemons can manifest in realspace.
well that's the mystery behind darktide
what is really going on in the depths of tertium?
why are all these things happening, really?
it can't just be a cult
I mean
Its a jeaaaaanstealer cult
that would be cool but wouldn't really fit darktide imo
Speaking of Salamanders
same thing happened in Destiny
one of the lead CMs quit and he was the most active in the community right around the time the community started sending devs death threats :)
and now informal communication is at an all time low

"hey destiny fans, we're sorry but this beloved titan exotic isn't coming back in destiny 2, just gotta rip that bandaid off"
destiny twitter:
Heh
Why
i'll come back next expansion, but for now i'm enjoying other games
Warframe is better 
i played a good bit of warframe
540h
but that was like 4 years ago
last played nov 2 2018
I have 1.4k in it
Just chilling
You know
I actually didn't think I'll get to play Darktide
xbox player too?

Max out Psyker
Follow by Zealot
I'm leveling Ogryn atm
Melee is super satisfying with big boys
Shield bash sound is 
switched from mk4 ds to ilissi force sword and i've become a bit of a melee liker too
I switch from all those fancy Psyker sword to a Chainsword
Very effective against big boys
I wish I have a better surge staff
Then make one 4head
is blazing spirit on trauma staff any good?
(The crafting system is horrible, I don’t know why I’m saying this)
Not particularly
I'm trying ok
It’s cool in theory
No luck
But Warp Flurry + Rending Shockwave > > > Blazing Spirit + Warp Nexus
i'm trying it out in meat grinder and it seems pathetic...
Is ghost any good on Kantrael?
Uh
If you want a defensive blessing, yes. Otherwise, not really
I don't think so?
Tfw Revolver is just a better Brain Burst
Its like

Trading shot with enemy seems like bad idea
Especially in Psyker
Brainburst buff next patch though
Leggo 
XXxdd
It's the best trauma build.
huh
Psyker tree with a gazillion soulblaze synergy talents but blaze trauma is not good okie.
The issue with Blaze Trauma is that all the Crit Talents are on the right
and all the Soulblaze Talents are on the left.
Flurry + anything certainly has more appeal post patch 13, but I still find it hard to swallow
Not more appeal over Blaze Trauma, though
Plus, its low rate of attack makes it pretty dreadful at actually producing Soulblaze in any meaningful capacity.
3 stacks is pretty piddly.
Replicate of my old pre-patch 1.2.0 build with blaze trauma. Voidstrike overtuned getting all the talks but blaze trauma got even more op.
Patch 1.2.0
Map: Relay Station TRS-150 · Disruption · Damnation · Hi-Intensity Shock Troop & Mutants Gauntlet (Hunting Grounds) (Cooldowns Reduced)
Loadout: Illisi Force Sword / Blazing Spirits Trauma
I have a hard time proccing soulblaze (from blazing spirit) from +crit chance on staff alone with left tree, and when it does proc it does like idk 13 per tick
man this is blaze on shriek is bad all over again
Trauma has such a low attack rate that most of your Blaze stacks can run out by the time you apply them again
Warp Flurry + Rending Shockwave is consistent and provides higher DPM vs generally everything, and especially Elites
Sneeze on the heretics with Venting shriek, then
No way rending shockwave and flurry can do more damage than blaze build.
Suddenly 3 stacks can become up to 9, and you can add more fuel to the fire after that
Don't bother, it's a lost cause trying to make people see that blaze is useless 99.99% of the time
Revolutionary Idea:
Creeping Flames with Perilous Combustion and a WF+RS Trauma

"See, if you kill 4 elites with it and then wait 8 seconds, then all the trash dies!" cool.
“See, I can just spam low charge Secondary Fires; I know it barely staggers anything and doesn’t kill anything outright, but at least I’m applying more stacks”

Nope only full charge.
i legit cannot tell if im building it wrong, or that blazing spirit trauma isn't very good?
Blazing Spirit needs a rework; being tied to Crit makes it woefully annoying to work with.
It’s not good
People just coom over it for some reason
You need elites or specials for that, and you don’t always have them around, and yes, while they are plentiful in Damn+, it’s not like blaze trauma can’t do that, either
So, what gives?
Do you really need RS for anything?
Mmm ogryn main spreading misinformation about another class. 
RS would have merit had it not been for so many rending sources currently being in the game
Gives you a Crusher breakpoint, and it opens up 1 shot or two shot breakpoints for Elites that were scratched by the shockwave
Shotgunners suddenly get one shot
Scab Gunners too
Maulers become a consistent 2 shot if they’re scratched by the shockwave of another blast too.
That with Warp Flurry lets you delete groups faster than Blazing Trauma
It isn't. It's a meme. Blaze is a meme
It's a nice addition if you got 2 points to spare
nothing else
But I can just sneeze and murder the hockers with quick BRuptures, why bother with Trauma at that point, unless they are NEATLY grouped up?
Let’s not be exclusive, it’s not healthy for any community
Bro’s forgotten about my 300 hours on Psyker, and it being my 2nd most player Class.

Congrats?
Bro wants receipts 
I don't need any receipts I know more about psyker than you.
They don’t need to be;
Just being scratched by the big ass shockwave is enough for Brittleness to apply, and then even spread out Elites receive new breakpoints
Whatever you say, pal

Keep spreading wrong information. 
I see your point, but still don’t agree with superiority of all this over Blazing Spirit. If I can stagger the elites and follow-up with either blitz or another blast, or just let them burn to death, there is no great value in it either way, and I get to apply blaze to other nearby threats for chip damage
Maybe one of these days you'll hit the mark.
Consider the following:
Trauma boasts faster TTKs/higher DPM vs groups of Elites than Brainburst does, making it a better option for deleting such enemies within Trauma’s effective range; plus, what if you just don’t proc Blazing Spirit?
having played both these builds a lot, they're both good. Blazing Trauma is its own build and Rending Shockwave is also its own build. I've played and been successful with both
Some of these mods are crazy. One that tells you which Elite or Special just spawned? Doesn't this border cheating?
It's not cheating if I am hard of hearing.
i think thats fair tbh
i play this game entirely by sound at times
if you can't hear well then I'm all for ease of access
I suppose I am just jealous that mods are disabled for Nvidia Geforce. Can't have any of this fancy stuff. All I want is enemy HP bars. 😄
u can have it
what are u on
ah rip
hp bars is op
they should be enabled by default in this game
Well, you sometimes don’t trigger it, but you don’t really need it to kill the elites - Perilous + Creeping does most of the heavy lifting, whereas you just stoke the fire while applying heavy crowd control. Sometimes I can just let one elite explode and the rest will follow up shortly, or one by one. It all depends on what is currently happening.
Just so we’re clear: I believe that, much like Johnny typed a second ago, both builds can be valid and don’t really exclude one another.
It tells you so much. I am tired of guessing how much is left.
Can't make any proper decisions in terms of cast time with staves.
exactly yeah
its much much needed
no cap
it also reveals
the location of elites that have been damaged
which is super useful
Indeed. I entirely rely on allies highlighting them, shooting in the general direction, hoping Assail or Voidstrike hits its mark. 🙂
Why not just use Perilous and Creeping with WF+RS though?
That’s what I just don’t understand.
They really do all the heavy lifting for Soulblaze builds, so… why not apply Brittleness to enemies and make them take even more damage from the Soulblaze applied by them?
This game is truly is
Min-max the game
I may yet have to see a real application for rending affecting soulblaze, but the only elite that refuses to die from the flames is Crusher, and often enough they are not a priority target anyway.
Also, I like staying at high peril for more damage via Warp Rider. Crits applying soulburn are just extra - it’s not a lot, but it often is just enough to spread a lot of free soul burn around the blast area. Whatever is not killed - I usually don’t have to pay much attention to it
Blaze might lose value next patch though - some elites will be tankier, Perilous Comb. loses one instance of dot (4 -> 3 IIRC).
With the rework to Brittleness, and with how it stacks, you can make enemies take noticeably more damage from Soulblaze, including enemies it dealt 100% or more damage to anyway
Plus, this is just a testament to Perilous and Creeping being good
Not so much Blazing Spirit
I never find myself in situations where I think “Man, 3 stacks Soulblaze would be better here”
I personally just want Blazing to be reworked, to make it more reliable instead of trying it to crits
I prefer the standard rending trauma but it's more a function of what you want to spend points on than what is strictly better. the soulfire talents themselves do for sure do the heavy lifting on it though compared to what the staff is adding. blazing trauma is fine but in my eyes it's just about warp charge proccing which is why I'm not currently using it as much because I am specced into EP right now
Yes, but, does it make a difference in the grand scheme of things? I don’t know, I don’t run hard numbers, but I surely haven’t ran enough RS in my Psyker’s career to thoroughly see how strong the loadout is. All I can rely on for now is theory and maybe observations of other players
It does
Considering all other people on your team doing the killing, and usually not needing Rending in the first place due to a power creep? Not now, I reckon, but again, patch 14 might change my view on the matter
Again, even if it’s not for the team, it’s mainly for you.
It increases both your Soulblaze DoT vs Flak, Unyielding, Carapace and Maniac, and also let’s you hit breakpoints on enemies
Once you hit the first blast, everything in a massive radius takes more damage; Shotgunners become one shots, Scab Gunners become one shots, Trappers become one shots (if you didn’t already have +Maniac), Maulers become consistent two shots, etc.
And plus, the Rending with Perilous + Creeping Flames is potent on groups of Elites.
It’s all entirely within your hands too, instead of relying on a Crit
Assuming I would like to try it, what perks would I ideally want to have on this Trauma?
Flak + Carapace or Flak + Maniac
I have a staff with RS + WF, never really bothered touching it in the current patch, though
Carapace should let you 3 shot Crushers
Maniac shout let you one shot Flamers if they’re Brittled, and one shot Trappers without prior set up
Unyielding is also a choice
Reduces needed hits to kill a Reaper by 1
And gives you decent Monstrosity damage

But if you’re using a DSword with Rending, then stick with Carapace or Maniac
Since DSwords handle Monstrosities somewhat well anyway
I have a decent Dueling sword with Uncanny
I also use a chainsword with it. and the rending trauma will make crusher get staggered from the special if you want to knock them towards you
although it's better to just trauma if there is more than 1
Trauma + Chainsword + Brain Rupture has become my favourite build again.
yeah, also using rupture
Chainsword + Revolver+ Smite for me
I'm a Chainsword + Revolver + Assail enjoyer
But I try to use DD to balance out the use of Assail

Not a fan of Assail
Smite is my go to these days
It keep my team alive 
I use Brainburst on my soul flame build
How is smite after patch?
Hm. What patch?
Wasn’t there a patch 14 😅?
There hasn’t been anything new/updated since patch 13 in live realm.
No, these are preliminary patch notes
Not yet
Oh then nevermind 😂
siblings, shred v riposte on dueling 4
Both pgood I heard tho I’d prob prefer riposte since it’s activated on dodge or wte
And I use the dsword mainly to poke mutants or crushers so
I've used both and riposte is way more consistent
I have 1 more reroll slot on this staff, what do you suggest I do with it? I think the blessings are good, but I'm not 100% certain
Please help me siblings.
Dead?
Oh yah I figured. Should I do carapace or unyielding?
Or something else?
or flak
You want Surge and Warp Nexus though
That's literally the peak combo on Void rn
Just roll Surge

I still don't ahve Surge 
Well Flurry is 25% less charge time
But you can get Surge procs reliably with True Aim
Ye but just crit 
The issue is that
Crits without Surge is kinda bad ye
I'll keep rolling then 🙂 Also last question for now. I have the voidstrike and dueling IV, should I be brain burst spamming bosses? Or just staff them? Usually I run with a friend and they melt bosses, so I'm not sure what to do in a situations where I have to solo a boss or do most of the dmg
Never Brain Burst anything if you could do something else tbh.
no you cant melt bosses with void. either bb them or uncanny strike them with mkiv in the face
You need pretty specific things to melt bosses
Kk, I've been testing in the psych with the mob spawning
And the health seems inaccurate?
But ye, I'll just keep checking the shop and rolling for surge, but reroll pox into unyielding for now 🙂 Thanks a bunch 💖
you can stunlock bosses with void but dont get used to it cause its going away in the next patch
Yah I noticed that, but it seemed inconsistent and weird
yeah cause its not intended
What health is inaccurate?
Boss hp inside the training area. It just feels like they have more hp than usual, but that's entirely my brain and probably incorrect.
Should I change Slaughtere to shred?
Blazing Spirit to something else
Prob
doing a soulblaze build
if you want a fire sword change slaughter to shred
illi works a bit better for it though
If you want a fire sword get an Illisi
Blazing Spirit will not do very much on Deimos
The only reason to do melee soulblaze is to get warp charge stacks pretty much
shoosh
Then should I change blood to shred?
fire is good, yall are just warp charge slaves
yes, blood sucks for fire
👍 ty
Meanwhile Blazing on Trauma is good because the huge AoE doesn't kill shit
"this sword is killing things too fast, how can i make it not kill"
Lmao
i recommend not using special except on elites and sticking to light or heavy chain for hordes
light tends to get fire going faster because it deals less
but heavy will cleave more targets at once
just depends
Yeah just do less damage so you burn more

You guys know you can just take Shriek and burn hordes rite
I think of it as wave dmg
why settle for just 6 stacks of fire, when you can get 18,
You mean 16
what are you going to crit with a sword 5 times, other than bosses?
Actually probably 10
12+6 EQUALS 18 MATH WIZ
Where do you get 12
@steel flame What's good blessings for purg?
hell if i know, i dont use purgatus
you need to leave fire sword alone
just cause you cant wrap that teeny little void riddled brain around it 😛
i cant be bothered to use purgatus after using fire trauma for so long
to make blazing work on melee, they'd either need to give psyker a melee weapon that has huge AoE but not damage, or else change the trigger-condition
fire trauma is just better
Or just
Make it trigger
8 stacks each crit
And stack twice
So it at least kills big things
And then the cleave will also kill plenty stuff
Or something like that
2 stacks per crit is just
??
vire sword from vt2
charged attack is a 180 with infinite cleave that does very little damage but applies burn
Pls no
I don't want more no damage stack DoT builds
Purgatus buffs were so good give me more direct damage
Should I get this?
if u want it
if you don't have Uncanny IV unlocked on any DS, then definitely yes
Never used a DS 
otherwise, ehhhhh, it's fine, but not perfect
Uncanny is the blessing you'll need on any DS, so, if you've got the currency I wouldn't pass up banking that blessing
and they might make the Mk V good next patch
I guess I'll pick it up
Don't have anything else to spend melk bucks on right now anyways
There is also this one
what are the dump stats for illisi?
Has anybody else noticed that warp siphon i bugged with shield dome? With a warp charge the shield refresh timer is cancelled out.
mobility and sorta first target
It refreshes in an instant.
yeah it's been noted since day 1 of the patch
it's with the shield in general, if you have at least 1 charge it will refund the whole CD
dome or fence
Yes.
prio is dmg and finesse, warp resist, first target, and mobility are all ok if they're 60+
I was told its trash compared to flurry rending. Please delete your blaze trauma.
ah okay, I just noticed it today.
Wondering what I should change on this
What are the best staffs while leveling?
While levelling just spam assail.

its too op lol
rp as Yondu Udonta
Specialist into maniac and shred into uncanny strike
What the shit, and they are buffing this? 
Thank you 🤘
Justice to mk5 duelling sword.
Is this staff type any good?
They are all usable as long as you have a decent quell speed roll (too low gives penalties) Well the meta staff is void at Auric, I doubt it will do any worse while levelling. Purgatus is always a safe bet due to how Soulblaze damage is fixed across all difficulties. Trauma may be a bit more difficult to use before you get some bigger stats.
what is auric
It is. It's a bit overshadowed by the other staves getting to be good at everything rn though.
Pls just spam assail. 😔
Something you will get spanked by the first time you hit lvl 30 and take a look at it
hey, all due respect ill play how I want

No
void is short for voidstaff?

doesn't matter what you'd rather tho, all due respect. This is my gaming 😉
Great gaming loop design.
I did it when resources for each reject was separate...
at least leveling psyker is easy
you have infinite blitz that does full damage from level 1
leveling vet 💀
Same man truly one of the darkest timeline.
On dueling sword you slap flak+unyielding damage, right?
Those seem to be the lowest
Now we can just play the OP classes and farm resources
Voidstrike nerf is coming 
FS bad at math
Voidstrike will still be powerful
think you just default to flak maniac
And given more cleave ops
Humanitarians probably...
And Surge now crit shots ops
unyielding doesn't do that much for you
(crit is nice too)
Psyker tree rework will kill it for most people
Yes

If they endure that long. 30% still can't melee and have tunnel vision
Once the tree is no longer "here just have everything you want for free"
Did they say anything about psyker tree rework tho?
In the note they only said they want to rework vet and keystones.
What’re ops?
I mean, does it really need more maniac damage than this?
It's either that or make Zeaot and Vet trees better.
Voidstrike is surely overtuned atm, not so hard to get 1kk total damage
i think i have flak crit on mine
Didn't even one-shot
So yes
I have maniac on mine.
but 1 shotting ragers is nice
Maniac is like best melee weapon perk.
and more consistent mutant 1 shot
What curio combo do y'all run? X3 HP?
Mutants most dangerous enemy.
2x HP, 1x Stamina
Muscled dudes running around tossing people.

They are source are most whimsical deaths and wipes 🙂
Cleave damage is meh but who cares
10-5% more on that wouldn't make much difference
We posting staffs?
That's staves to you.
Bite me
Whats bad about the Maccabian II? I have a 380 with 64% defense and 25% maniac at green
It has a move set partially composed of 4’s and 5’s swings/thrusts. It doesn’t excel at delivering either one well enough, though
Psyker hp is too low, so not so much value in that. You can use 1 HP, 1 toughness, 1 stamina, thats what is considered the safe option
psykers have 150 base it's fine
Ogrynsyker
how big is stam curio?
Define big
i cant find 3 stam curio 
It’s stamina for running, blocking if not on Deflection, probably not running out of stamina immediately after not being able to block anymore after Deflection pushes you to 97%
I like stamina. Stamina is nice.
Big is ambiguous. It all depends on what you want to do with it. If you can’t be bothered, just run anything else - anything else probably goes just as well
Enjoy your 2 grimoires. 
i mean it's fine to get more hp curios D:
i run 3x hp because i like running up and smacking poxbursters

sometimes accidents happen
happy little accident
yep from then i never go near aburster anymore
that could have been me i never apologize
@chrome osprey can confirm
Was prolly me
reason why i just shoot them now, make sure they go boom
How exactly does wildfire work? If a target had 16 stacks of fire would it give 4 each to 4 targets, 4 to all targets within X meters?
Seems 4 stacks of fire would be a good headstart on getting up to 16 stacks
5 meters or so? Seems good enough on a fire build.
It's divisive. Imo it's good.
Is there any melee psyker things that do big damage to bigger bosses and such or is that a hammer zealot only thnig
and ogryn
DS IV with a Scriers/DD build
does surge apply to the secondary attack for void
Yes
The corpse spread is pretty weird though.
It only seems to spread if:
- The corpse despawns.
- The duration goes out and soulblaze would tick down stacks
I was against Wildfire before
I still think its not amazing but I run it now
As some might say
real talk playing low level characters in too high difficulties is fun as hell
and there's no way to target surge really besides just constantly upgrading to blue? do oranges have a higher chance of having surge appear
It's mildly contested but the total rating of the weapon definitely has some influence on the blessings.
i always uograde to orange
Make sure to check Melk every day
never talk to melk
Not that I've seen, just upgrade to blue and watch out for the level 4s
melk gave me alot of rank 4 blessings
Its more cost effective to upgrade to blue and chuck it if there's nothing there
upgrading to orange costs way more plasteel
is there anything I can do with my 10k diamantine
Not really, the balance is off in favour of diamantine nowadays
Should be able to exchange it for more plasteel
store it until fatshark decides to let us use it
As long as you're max level, you should get the level 3s and 4s crop up on blue upgraded equipment
Enjoy it because you'll never run out of it before plasteel
There needs to be something you can only do for diamanthine for sure
it's not like I can physically get rid of it even if I wanted to
I live in a house of diamantine
every night I bring home more diamantine to my family
my wife has eaten nothing but diamantine for 3 years
my children are turning into diamantine
very solid children
they can no longer use the stairs unfortunately
source: i am their physician
the opportunity cost is so low now, a lot of stuff is more viable to run than it would be under the old system
like mind in motion
peril resist talent
We’re hoarding all the diamantine, there isn’t any more for the Leman Russ production lines 
wildfire
The big opportunity cost is not running Assail

i don't think the diamantine situation is anything to get too upset about, it's a little goofy but ultimately it means you just treat the game as if there was only one crafting resource
i'm sure they'll rebalance it at some point
Next Year™️
fatshark isn't a company that abandones a game because it has low player numbers
yeah, usually i see it as assail vs. psykinetic aura
godlike blitz vs. godlike cdr
I just always run Shriek with Warp Charges on left side anyway
So I don't really care for aura much
esp if youre on vet with gimped exec stance
Guys, is the illisi force sword any good?
Yes
whats DD
yes it's good
better than deimos?
Disrupt Destiny
Debatable but yes.
different role
Disrupt destiny
If you're using Deimos might as well use Dueling Sword mk4
how?
Illisi is horde clear
deimos is single target damage, illisi is horde clear

only reason to run deimos right now is the infinite dodge, but you're losing that because it's "op"
Hmmm
Okay anyone have a perk tree build for a high damage melee
im new so im not up on everything im bored just throwing darts
lol
but it works so well
even though everyone switched to ds4 the instant the patch dropped, maybe infinite dodge wasnt so op after all 
Illi is slashy slashy cleave, and diemos is stabby stabby
It never was
It just made up for the force swords having shit ass dodges
"5 dodges is still infinite"
"infinite dodge is sooo op it totally ruins the game and trivializes it waaaa"
-sweats on this chat
You hi? Diemos had combat blade dodges
my issue with sciers gaze is it stops at 100% doesnt that mean it kills me lol
if i use it
Yeah but no one actually uses Deimos
or it stops in time
i use deimos
See? No one.
I use Deimos, but this is why I am asking
you can literally use whatever you want in this game, it ain't that hard
Something like this maybe
Psyker has like no melee nodes
Rn demon claw mk4 is the best lawnmower right now
You have like 1.5 seconds of grace time at 100% Peril before you explode. As long as you don’t do anything that costs Peril, you will survive
It's an absolute monster with scryer

This isn't how it works
But Scrier's can't kill you on its own ever
You have to spend peril





