psyker-class

[hearty dagger]

gUARANTEED WHAT

[hearty dagger]

Oh that one

I thought you meant voidstrike gets guaranteed crits on headshot

[north cradle]

Whoopsie

💪

[royal granite]

i really like that voidstrike's fat projectile can hit targets behind cover

i need this patch out YESTERDAY

i want to use voidstrike assail without feeling like a pervert

[north cradle]

I'm afraid to touch anything on this but I honestly don't think Focused Channeling is a terrible Blessing. I'm just waiting until I can get Surge myself

[pale pilot]

yeah i would really like the balance patch to be out

[royal granite]

focused channeling can be replaced by dodge sliding

[pale pilot]

because my other classes are excited for some of those change

also so i don't feel like a pervert using assail

or so i can combine smite with EP without feeling like a pervert

etc

[hearty dagger]

I just run assail and use it smartly.

AKA "OH SHIT 5 RAGERS" knife knife knife knife knife knife

[echo turtle]

You will kill them just as fast with uncanny honestly

[hearty dagger]

2 dregs? They can eat melee.
Homie getting overwhelmed? He gets the knives.

[north cradle]

I'm pumped for the Brain Burst patch myself

I was so sad about what happened to my boi

[echo turtle]

I used to run mercy, but uncanny tests better overall.

Uncanny also works with flesh tearer really.

My old knife was mercy/lacerate but have switched to uncanny/tearer and it's feeling excellent

[rocky osprey]

fuck me dude. I was like "the only way this could roll bad is T3 run and gun. I have better chances getting nexus and flurry than that!"

lo and fucking behold

unlock crafting fatshark, i'm begging

[still hearth]

Purgatus only has one blessing anyway

So you're fine

[hearty dagger]

Truly a purg staffer

[still hearth]

Swap Elites to Unyielding and whichever you dislike the most to Warp Nexus

Or Maniac if you want more overall value

[acoustic spade]

sounds like you need to see my Surge Staff

[rocky osprey]

oh god i'm so sorry sibling

[acoustic spade]

Atleast on Purgatus Run n Gun is sorta usable

[still hearth]

The one thing that makes me not run Run 'n' Gun Surge

Is that you can't use it while sliding??

When you stand up you kinda have to stagger into the running state again

Instead of it being a smooth motion

Like Warp Nexus with Run 'n' Gun on Surge would at least be a fun meme

But nope gotta make it awkward

[royal granite]

run n gun

why the fuck does this blessing exist on staves

it's not even useful on guns

it's just not a good blessing

[echo turtle]

It kind of feels nice on a purgatus but it's trash yeah

If it also made you count as dodging while shooting or somethinf

[royal granite]

the crafting system feels fine

[still hearth]

It is monetized already (your time)

[echo turtle]

Gotta keep people playing

[north cradle]

I think I'm gonna try Illisi again. I can still two-tap Mutants with it

[echo turtle]

Not really, you can run any 350+ weapon with any blessings

And the build will still work

Level 1-4 disparity is much smaller now

[still hearth]

I mean the only real one for Psyker is like Surge blessing on Voidstrike

[echo turtle]

The difference between a 350 weapon with some low level blessings and Garbo perks vs a good tier roll is like, maybe 50% total damage output

[rocky osprey]

it'd feel fine IF
A) materials were abundant enough to roll weapons often
B) it's easier to get good stats/rolls without such inflated pools of garbage blessings and perks if material grind stays the same

short of straight up unlocking crafting, it just needs to adjust either way if they don't want us to all have perfect rolls that easily, which I understand

[still hearth]

People have 1k+ hours

Without a single perfect weapon

So idk what metric that is

[echo turtle]

Haha yeah, I have dumped 50k plasteel chasing surge on those and bloodthirsty on force swords, still tryin

[still hearth]

They clearly have an idea

With Brunt having low level blessings

[royal granite]

i've never tried to get a perfect weapon, i just go for the okayest weapon i can get

[north cradle]

Yup

[still hearth]

And Milk having T4s

But it's just so slow

And you still need to roll so much

[north cradle]

Is your avatar artist Kairu? I swear I've seen something similar before

[still hearth]

It's actually a friend of mine

[echo turtle]

Level 2 vs level 4 blessings is like, 10 stacks of bleed on special activation vs 13 stacks now

[still hearth]

He doesn't do comms sadly

[still hearth]

Except some

[royal granite]

there's nothing in this game hard enough that you need a perfect anything

[still hearth]

Like Thrust is still the same

[echo turtle]

Riposte bottom is 14 max 20

[royal granite]

you barely even need decent stat rolls

[echo turtle]

Sure, some exceptions

[rocky osprey]

I'm the same tbh but when pushing progression and the end goal is to try Auric level stuff, it feels really bad to spend like a weeks worth of materials and barely get any return/growth. That said I've been mostly lucky with serviceable weapons, but it still feels mega bad in the short and long term

[still hearth]

Which they hopefully will fix too

I mean

I've been here from the release

They've been making plenty of good choices.

A handful of bad ones

Some really terrible ones

[echo turtle]

But realistically, you can run pretty much any build with level 2 blessings and a roll above 340 and do fine

[rare storm]

Does precog on scriers gaze work on warp attacks?

[still hearth]

The biggest issue is the lack of communication

[echo turtle]

Yeah

[dusk salmon]

Anyone complete the Penance in which you had to kill 90% of monstrosity with brain burst in a private match?

[rare storm]

Ayee okay thank you

[royal granite]

yeah i've been playing since beta also, the game is just steadily improving

[rocky osprey]

I'm hoping that crafting adjustments are coming because it'd make sense for them to do it after the class update. imagine how overtuned we could be with god rolls lmao

[echo turtle]

Yeah, I asked the team to let me kill a beast of nurgle

I just ran around. In a circle and bursted it down

Ez

[rare storm]

Does doing it on a weakened monstrosity count for the penance

[royal granite]

you can do auric with a blue weapon, some half decent rolls and a bit of thought into your build

auric is way more about player skill than equipment

maelstrom even more so

[neon steppe]

My biggest issue with crafting is that blessings have to be unlocked. I play all 4 characters and like to experiment with different weapons. In VT the only restriction is reds being a perfect roll. I’m darktide though I literally can’t try certain blessings unless I drops thousands of materials, and then I have to do it again to try the same blessing on a different weapon.

[dusk salmon]

Nice! I just need to find a group to complete it on a private match so I can communicate the 90% thing

[rocky osprey]

i mean ofc but that still doesn't diminish growth as being important for progression, and that only makes it more accessible to people who are still good but not god players. i don't want to use that as an excuse when crafting could be better with no reasonable downsides

[royal granite]

the crafting is the endgame, if getting a perfect thing was easy you'd run out of reasons to play

[rocky osprey]

mmm not necessarily lol

[neon steppe]

Here I thought I played the game because it was fun

[rocky osprey]

but i see wehre ur coming from

[neon steppe]

Just like my last thousand hours of VT after getting all the reds I wanted

[royal granite]

well yeah, but it's an incentive

along with penances

[rocky osprey]

which is why I say I understand if they never unlock crafting, they just need to adjust either drop rates or just improve chances/remove the 100% garbage rolls altogether.

[sinful vigil]

the problem with that is that using a bad and frustrating system to get us to keep playing has been proven to do the opposite

[royal granite]

yeah there's a lot of cruft that could go

but i don't think it's bad or frustrating

[sinful vigil]

you might not, but the majority do

[rocky osprey]

some ppl have different tolerance!

[royal granite]

i usually burn out on stuff pretty quick

[sinful vigil]

the game has died multiple times in part due to the bad crafting

[royal granite]

that feels like hyperbole

[rocky osprey]

i saw a forum post once that said they should repurpose diamantine to like, 'reset' a weapon back to grey so that we can at least keep the stats. I feel like that in itself could improve the grind immensely

[royal granite]

i've never seen this game dead

[rocky osprey]

mostly bc I have a metric karkton of diamantine, and i'm sure ppl with more hours than me do too lmao

[sinful vigil]

since launch, the player count has dropped to numbers that could be considered "dead"

[royal granite]

let me have a look at the charts

[sinful vigil]

Big updates brought people back and new players in, but then went back down again after some time

[royal granite]

the lowest it's been was like 3k players

[obtuse moth]

matchmaking has been pretty dead at times

[vagrant kayak]

does anyone know of psykinetic's aura means when you or an ally get an elite kill while in coherency or is it only when you kill the elite that it activates?

[sinful vigil]

only you

[vagrant kayak]

k

[sinful vigil]

the game will tell you if allies will also proc something

[obtuse moth]

i would consider being unable to find multiplayer matches and forced to play solo as dead

[sinful vigil]

it was easier to find games in vermintide 2 then it was in darktide at times

[vagrant kayak]

this is fatshark. they don't tell you jack and they're descriptions lie more than they tell the truth lol

v2 and darktide are one in the same in that regard

[sinful vigil]

"fire frenzy" blessing be like

[royal granite]

why in the world did vermintide 2 have a one hundred thousand player spike in the middle of 2022?

[ornate hamlet]

The pitfall of almost every game studio. Gods know why this is always so difficult.

[royal granite]

it didn't even have that many players on launch

[vagrant kayak]

chaos wastes

[royal granite]

ah yeah that makes sense

[rocky osprey]

What's the major differences with the Mk V? iirc the Mk IV is the preferred variant but I managed to cop this before rolling one. Should I keep it?

[royal granite]

chaos wastes is good fun

[still hearth]

Legal reasons maybe.

[vagrant kayak]

V has a bunch of under swings iirc

not conducive to weakspot hits

unless you give it to an ogryn

[sinful vigil]

the major one i think is the V has downward swing heavies while the IV has poke heavies

and the poke is better for armored

[slate oasis]

mk5 has mostly diagonal light attacks and a downward swing heavy attack

[rocky osprey]

ahhh ok. guess I'll burn at blue for a blessing then

[sinful vigil]

V is better for hordes imo

so id say keep it

[royal granite]

a beastman class would be fun

[sinful vigil]

vt2 or in darktide?

[royal granite]

darktide

[slate oasis]

personally the mk5 has my favorite moveset of all the dueling swords, even though 4 is basically just straight up better

[spice veldt]

mk4 heavies are noticeably better for no reason

[lyric burrow]

well they should all be in line next patch

[rocky osprey]

mm i'll keep it if it rolls good but I won't invest too much lmao. I don't really have much in the bank for sabres atm

[sinful vigil]

pokes are precision ig, so gotta give it more damage

[spice veldt]

think the mk5 has a lower finesse multiplier than it should

[spice veldt]

the mk4 has 40% more damage than the mk2, despite both sharing the exact same h1

there's definitely some hot inconsistency going on here

and the mk2 lacking the fast followup from the special into the h1 that the mk4 has

[royal granite]

also where player numbers are concerned, it's worth keeping in mind that this year has been insanely stacked in terms of good-ass videogames

[thin finch]

I don't think they will.

[spice veldt]

the mk2's 2nd heavy will finally get its due diligence

though we don't know if the h1 will have the same damage as the mk4's heavies

[rare storm]

Should I change out ranged crit strike for something else or is this fine as is

[spice veldt]

oh wait I misread the mk5's patch notes for patch 13

[thin finch]

I should reread the future patch note but I don't remembdr if the change were that big

[spice veldt]

i think its damage values are supposed to be like that, but it falls behind noticeably behind the mk4

which is a shame

it's not like its mobility/defense is remarkably better

[rocky osprey]

very nice roll. could do Flak or unyielding

[rare storm]

Ayee I was thinking flak as well since the purg crits alot on its own

Why unyielding tho

[thin finch]

I don't think crit chance is that usefull on a fast firing weapon
The +25% damage on unyielding or infested if you really wants to clear trash might be better.
Do you use it with the right side of the tree ?

[sinful vigil]

and purg crits arent that impactful. better to just have more consistent damage

[spice veldt]

so i suppose the h1 -> h2 -> l3 loop is better cuz the strikedown (l3) got mildly buffed

[thin finch]

Ogryn waves

[sinful vigil]

bosses

[rare storm]

ooo that makes sense

[rocky osprey]

mmm i was thinking maybe just for a bit more dmg on ogryns and bosses, but you might find more value with flak too - just kinda figure out what you tend to engage more within the range of ur purg

[rare storm]

I use it on the left side

[rare storm]

ayee that makes sense

[thin finch]

So you will get no benefit from crit if you don't take the 2 crit perk and it is thus pointless to have bonus crit

[sinful vigil]

surge lets you 1 shot crushers when it procs

[rare storm]

This is what I run with the staff should I change out anything?

[thin finch]

Warp nexus + surge would be the way imo

[spice veldt]

on one hand, recon lasguns are fast-firing weapons with a peepee poopoo crit multiplier
on the other hand, the other automatics have crit strings and decent crit multipliers

[rocky osprey]

was about to say left but I see the locked blessings lmao oof. 100% the right side since you can adjust the perks, T.peril isn't bad to pair with surge at all (also do flak/maniacs or maniacs/unyielding for perks probs)

[spice veldt]

it's mostly a matter of how good the crit damage multipliers are rather than the fire rate, and it's just that the recon lasguns are notably DOGSHIT in their crit multipliers

[sinful vigil]

crits for rending vets

[north cradle]

I somehow got more Ranged Elite kills with my Purg/Burst than the Void/Assail Psykers

[warped snow]

any strats to getting brainburst penances?

[rocky osprey]

i think they're broke rn no?

[obtuse moth]

no

i think some improved versions dont count tho

[north cradle]

Not broken per se, but it sucks to get because now you need to pick up the Warp Charges capstone

[obtuse moth]

and the warp charges one is hard since only specials/elites guarantee a charge now. on the other hand you dont have to brain burst to get them

[sinful vigil]

i thought specials didnt give warp charges anymore

[obtuse moth]

specials dont give empowered

[rocky osprey]

generally +flak/+maniacs is safe for coverage of high threat mgmt. but some weapons have better breakpoints so I see maniacs/unyielding a lot too

[lethal lagoon]

Anyone know the mod that let's mobs in the pysch attack you?

[north cradle]

Specials give Warp Charges. You're thinking of Empowered Psionics

[obtuse moth]

creature spawner, go to options and turn off invisibility

[thin finch]

I would assume that even with a shitty crit multipler you would proc it enough for you perk and blessing to reap benefit from your crit

[north cradle]

I kind of understand the rationale, it just sucks

[spice veldt]

though other automatics will take advantage of it better

because the IAGs also have crit strings

crit strings aren't unique to the recon lasguns

[lethal lagoon]

@obtuse moth Ohhhh, that makes sense. Thanks. I found it weird creature spawner had no option to make mobs hostile

[north cradle]

Protip: Don't crouch when using Infantry Autoguns

[thin finch]

What is crit string ?

Continuous crit durint a timeframe ?

[spice veldt]

basically, whenever you roll a crit, the next shots for a short period of time will also crit

[north cradle]

You get like half a second of all crits when you proc one

[still hearth]

It's a set amount

It's different per gun too

[spice veldt]

so a little bit of crit chance on automatic weapons tends to go a long way

[thin finch]

Truly darktide is an open game easy to understand

[obtuse moth]

its kind of broken in that fast firing weapons have way higher effective crit chance

[still hearth]

It does have a lock out mechanic though

[spice veldt]

SIMPLY intuit the game mechanics through the morphogenetic field

[still hearth]

So you'll always not get a crit after the crit string I think

Or something like that

[obtuse moth]

like a 3 burst weapon gets 3x the value from a crit chance mod

[still hearth]

Ehh not exactly

[modest trellis]

Just read the inherent operations of the code off the noosphere

[still hearth]

Because it also shoots 2 non-crits if it doesn't crit

It rolls per burst

Not per bullet

[north cradle]

Commune with the machine spirits at Fatshark's debugging workstations and they'll tell you everything you need to know

[obtuse moth]

if you run surgical you get 3x the value

[still hearth]

I mean if you have 100% crit chance you get 3x the value

Yes

But at 50% crit chance

If you don't crit

You still don't crit

[bleak tulip]

no way

[north cradle]

That's crazy

[spice veldt]

i killed 3 men

[thin finch]

I think Queen's poibt is that even if you get 3 guaranted bullet crit over your whole magazine it evens out with the "guaranteed 3 non bullet crit" and thus you don't really benefit that much more.

Compared to a bullet per bulet gun

[spice veldt]

rip vanessa

[obtuse moth]

theres other considerations though

[hearty dagger]

Y'know, imagine if we had more unique types of force melee weapons.
I.E, Force Mace
Force Dagger, etc

[obtuse moth]

like its way easier to wait a certain amount of time for one burst than wait the same amount of time three times for three shots. for surgical ads time based crit chance

[hearty dagger]

Would be cool to have more variety in the force weapon category

[obtuse moth]

you've wasted 3x more time sitting there getting the buff in one case and saved 66% of the time to get the same amount of crit chance for the same amount of bullets in the other

[spice veldt]

what a healthy, well-functioning game mechanic looks like https://streamable.com/dlw4n1

[still hearth]

What

[quasi junco]

best psyker melee weapon for killing trash?

[spice veldt]

somebody thought you were queen

[still hearth]

Fuck

[spice veldt]

lamayo

[spice oar]

That was the funniest shit I've seen in this server

[still hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/yandere-anime-smiling-stare-gif-17893343

[spice veldt]

12 crits in a row babeeeeeee

[spice oar]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-stones-mad-throw-angry-gif-17227439

[spice veldt]

absolutely fuckin beautiful

[north cradle]

Chainsword or Illisi for me. Maybe I'm just using it wrong, but Duelling Swords seem more for ignoring armour on Crushers without having to sit vulnerable for my Force Sword to finish casting

[still hearth]

I guess there's no lockout then actually

[spice oar]

Damm what you got doing that

[still hearth]

You just gotta get the crits rolled when the string ends

[idle bay]

Wai.. Vanessa i remember her. How long she has been gone?

[still hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-waiting-for-text-waiting-for-your-reply-gif-14108959

[spice veldt]

das True Aim babeeeeeeeeeeeee

[spice oar]

Nah but that's every 5 weak spot, reveal your weapon blessings wizard

[spice oar]

OK now I'm confused

[thin finch]

it's because of a the game capture that goes Queen Vanessa

[spice veldt]

it is literally just True Aim

[still hearth]

If your crit string is 4 shots then you crit a lot.

[still hearth]

Ah lmao

[spice oar]

Ahh, didn't realise the brace autoguns get crit strings that long

[thin finch]

I do not know who queen is

[spice veldt]

infantry autoguns 😔

[still hearth]

Alright now it's proper

[spice veldt]

crit strings are so fucking stupid

[spice oar]

Wait does purg get crit strings?

[spice veldt]

no as far as I can tell

[still hearth]

Sadge

[unique mist]

You guys ever wipe like this
https://imgur.com/a/kvzV9Cy

[spice oar]

Damm, made sense

[obtuse moth]

had a few close calls

[spice oar]

No but i had a beast of nurgle spit me into a wall and out of the map

[spice veldt]

skill issued

[still hearth]

Lmao rekt

[thin finch]

wait with true aim you can get a 100% crit uptime or some sheit?

[spice veldt]

close to that, yeah

[bleak tulip]

simply dont get hit by the burster

[obtuse moth]

anyone else had their mouse lose focus on the game lately?

[bleak tulip]

expert opinion

[spice veldt]

cuz critical shots also proc True Aim

[idle bay]

That's a trap spot realy. Spawn door next to elevator... and imagine - poxbusters coming right from it into elevator 🙂

[spice veldt]

the solution is to just make critical attacks not proc true aim

[spice oar]

Just noticed the mutant at the end lmao perfect cut

[unique mist]

and the burster exploding through the door

[bleak tulip]

shrimply dont be near the door

[thin finch]

qshhhh don't give big fish idea

[bleak tulip]

skill issue

[north cradle]

Ah crap I'm not gonna be able to pack Kinetic Deflection anymore?

[idle bay]

Only come inside that elevator when no specials are around (by sound) 🙂

[north cradle]

That sucks

[spice oar]

Solution to no problem dw about it

[unique mist]

you couldn't hear them

[spice veldt]

🥺

[unique mist]

theres sound if you follow the link

[unique mist]

thats mean

why can't we have fun

[still hearth]

Just give True Aim to Veteran

Ez pz

Infinite ammo and infinite crits

What could go wrong

[spice veldt]

not really because that's still close to 50% of your shots critting

[idle bay]

There was a sound cues - all of them

[spice veldt]

with crit strings

and you can proc True Aim with melee

[unique mist]

Not for the burster behind the door

[idle bay]

Just never rush into that elevator until it's clear 🙂

[spice veldt]

players need to use their god damn melees

[still hearth]

NO

I REFUSE

ARCO YOU CAN'T MAKE ME

[thin finch]

I wish we could have a guaranteed melee hit too

[vagrant kayak]

does anyone know if the bubble shield has more hp than the wall shield for telekine shield?

[unique mist]

It doesn't

[still hearth]

I think not rn but it will have

[spice veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/297184198865846272/1140324909579501649/image.png?ex=6547c654&is=65355154&hm=bd67bdc2f56b7b3389811a0c90aa544259a31d3aa35ff141200cf413d0ccfd4e&

[still hearth]

THeir HP is also weird

[idle bay]

I rarely have to use melee , but when i do it's Antax MK V with BM... and i have all the fun in world with it 🙂

[still hearth]

It's like 15 rn

[unique mist]

Current hp for both is "15"

[thin finch]

it does not ,both have "15" hp whatever does thatm eans

[still hearth]

Which idk if that's 15 hits or

[unique mist]

whatever that means

[spice veldt]

i wonder if that's the # of ranged attacks it can take and not the damage

[still hearth]

But they have a minimum duration

[still hearth]

I mean it has to be right

[vagrant kayak]

good. they better also fix the visual bug/desync where it appears active but it's been down for about 3 seconds before it disappears

[still hearth]

Damnation enemies do way more than 15 damage

[unique mist]

next patch they both will have a HP of "20"

[thin finch]

I don't think so otherwise they would get absolutly cheesed by gunner once the 8 second pass ?

[still hearth]

They already do?

[idle bay]

Kark.... it's 1 am and alarm clock set to 5:30 am

[thin finch]

I don't know , I never really counted

[still hearth]

Someone go check

I'm too tired

[thin finch]

I have to go to bed too

Tomorrow

[still hearth]

@spice veldt you do it

[spice veldt]

i cri

[bleak tulip]

[thin finch]

Turns out it's the case but shield also have i-frame in between shot

[still hearth]

Dome getting a duration bump

Because

[spice veldt]

hmm yeah

[still hearth]

I guess?

[spice veldt]

the shield only lasts 4 seconds with a gunner dumping into it

[thin finch]

Funnyly enough dome is already at 20s not 15

[still hearth]

Like who stands in the dome for 15s already

[spice veldt]

hmm what about snipers

[still hearth]

Is it actually

Because you know what they say about tooltips

[thin finch]

true

[spice veldt]

i think it really is just # of ranged shots it can handle

lol

[idle bay]

Cooldown on Dome without bug would be a like buggering a hedgehog...

[spice veldt]

that is an interesting criteria for the shield

[still hearth]

I mean 20 shots is

[spice veldt]

so snipers won't immediately demolish the shield, but gunners will

[bleak tulip]

thats like .3 seconds of a gunner shooting it then

[thin finch]

a bit stupid tho

[still hearth]

(Absolutely nothing wtf)

[still hearth]

Snipers don't shoot the dome

[spice veldt]

true

rip

[still hearth]

So I guess uhh

Idk??

Most enemies shoot really fast

Even normal shooty enemies shoot like 3 shots per second

[thin finch]

At least we will have 6 second ofguaranteed protection

[thin finch]

yeah but in high difficulty there is like 10 of them

or more

[spice veldt]

oh well

6 seconds of ranged immunity is still nice

[thin finch]

it is

[still hearth]

Ye

6.5s even

It's enough to save someone

Even under heavy fire

[thin finch]

I think it more than enough for any "elite dispatcher" to pop the head of the gunner army
Or the psyker to brain burst 2 guy

[still hearth]

It also seems to take no damage from certain attacks

[spice veldt]

or annihilate 5 gunners with your duelling sword

[still hearth]

Like flamers and netters

So you can just laugh at flamers trying to hurt the shield as you take a nap

[spice veldt]

hell yeah

i love the dome shield for that

[still hearth]

I wish it would delete stuff on the ground

[spice veldt]

and bonbons

[still hearth]

So you can dome the floor and get a proper safe area

[thin finch]

it also bump bomber and stop trappr net, but no idea if that damage the shield

[spice veldt]

i get to just stab bonbons with the duelling sword with a shield up

[bleak tulip]

putting bonbon in gay baby jail is the best part of shields

[still hearth]

Ga-

What

[spice oar]

You heard him

[bleak tulip]

you never heard that expression?

[still hearth]

I need an adult

[thin finch]

I have no idea who or what is bonbon

[still hearth]

@spice veldt help

[spice oar]

Fuck outta here, and got to the MEGA GAY ZONE

[spice veldt]

should've used your melee

[still hearth]

Unfriended.

[thin finch]

but it is funny to put the dome not around your team, but around the group of gunner

[north cradle]

Illisi isn't actually that bad. I wonder why I even thought it got nerfed

[spice veldt]

i cri

prob slaughterer nerf

and other stuff getting buffed

[north cradle]

Probably Slaughterer nerf.

[grave tapir]

Any reason to use guns instead of staffs, or are they pretty much worse

[still hearth]

Poxwalker hitmass buff

[still hearth]

Vraks 3 kills bosses hard af.

[spice veldt]

fun and they do fill a single-target niche

[thin finch]

gun feels good

[north cradle]

Kantrael Mk XII go brrr

[bleak tulip]

I refuse

[spice veldt]

die

[bleak tulip]

no

[still hearth]

Vraks 3 is probably legit the most boss DPS you can do on Psyker

[full bane]

Scryers Gaze is basically designed around being a gun Psyker

[north cradle]

I gotta see this. With Scryer's Gaze, no doubt?

[still hearth]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1x29RbMRM8ctmA/d133763XulT8?invite=cr-MSxnS00sMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

Casual 1.4k crits

[spice veldt]

ignore the disrupt-destiny sized icon to the bottom

but nevertheless, headhunter + deadly accurate goes very hard

[thin finch]

funi ragdoll

[still hearth]

1.8k crits at the end with max peril

[full bane]

Y’all think that the Obscuras deserves a buff? Since it kinda got left in the dust when the Deimos and Illisi dropped

[spice veldt]

no shoot it in the kneecaps

[bleak tulip]

throw it in the fire

[spice veldt]

i wonder what they would do with it

[north cradle]

Just look at this beaut

[elfin nexus]

holy

[still hearth]

Obscurus should have horde clear lights and single target heavies

[thin finch]

eh ,not really, it fills the same room than the deimos but it's the baby step sword so izokay to have it stay not good

[still hearth]

Lets go

[spice veldt]

give it a defensive niche and make it the MK5 duelling sword of the force swords at least?

[bleak tulip]

give it a unique charge

[elfin nexus]

thats an amazing mg12

[bleak tulip]

but they wont

[elfin nexus]

im jealous

[spice veldt]

kill him and rob him of it

[north cradle]

This lasgun fucks

[full bane]

Eh true

[bleak tulip]

they cant even figure out more than two staff left clicks in this game, I dont know if they can come up with another FS charge

[north cradle]

I just want the Beam Staff from VT2

[hearty dagger]

Ngl i feel like changing the Deimos stab to be a quicker one that basically leaves an explosive charge in the enemy you hit would be cooler than giving Obscurus smth new

[thin finch]

Vertical cleave

[still hearth]

It'll be fun when they nerf Perilous Combustion

And everyone stops using it (for no reason)

[spice veldt]

😔 having to kill 1 more elite for it to start ramping

trajedy

[bleak tulip]

same with assail, reddit gonna be like "its fine now" when all they did was buff it really

[spice veldt]

i don't consider it much of a buff because the RMB is slow as shit

[hearty dagger]

Tbf the current fad of assail is probably gonna end when people see the word "nerf"

[still hearth]

Have to kill 2 elites to get enough soulblaze to kill poxwalkers?? (Literally the same as before)

[spice veldt]

but it's ultimately a nothingburgers nerf

[full bane]

I hope that assail revives a harder nerf than what we saw in the patch notes

[spice veldt]

and is a nerf in the wrong direction

just fucking shoot its ammo economy in the knees

[bleak tulip]

itll make RMB maybe worth using so its a buff in my book

but yeah

[thin finch]

if it can let me OS elite to keep my DD going , I consider it a buff

[full bane]

Exactly

[spice veldt]

if the refresh mechanic for DD worked properly, then you wouldn't even need to kill the elite

you would only need to stagger/damage them

to fresh the timer on your stacks

but too bad it doesn't

[thin finch]

wdym ?

[still hearth]

What does that mean

[spice veldt]

if you stagger/damage marked enemies like bruisers, you'll notice that the timer on your stack refreshes

without even killing them

[hearty dagger]

I take it that DD is meant to work like damaging the marked target refreshes your timer

[thin finch]

I know I get some refresh when I go zappy zappy and my friend get the kills, there is a weird assist windows

[spice veldt]

but this is inconsistent as fuck

[hearty dagger]

One thing i don't like about DD is how it tends to take like 5 hours to mark a target sometimes

[spice veldt]

so you end up having to kill them most times

the bugs really do hurt DD a lot

[north cradle]

I can't even tell if DD is marking a target in the Psykhanium

[hearty dagger]

And sometimes just switches the target between 2 dudes like a fuckin carousel on crack

[spice veldt]

only if you have invisibility turned off

it reliably makes them glow for me if invisibility is off

[thin finch]

it's random
it can mark only one target
and I am not sure if one marked target can be marked again

[still hearth]

Apparently this can be because you aren't looking at it

It marks only specific enemies too

[hearty dagger]

Also, why do people mod the hud to basically be all in the middle of the screen?

I will never understand that.

[spice veldt]

eye movements take a few milliseconds too long for me

[still hearth]

You don't have to look away from the action to see stuff

[thin finch]

Na, I saw 3 gunner taking their turn glowing blue in a 2 second windows

[still hearth]

Might be a distance thing? Either way it worked reliably when I used it

[hearty dagger]

I mean, personally that just obscures the action rather than letting me keep my eyes on it

[still hearth]

I just hated how it worked

[thin finch]

they were standing next to each other and DD was like "him, no him , in fact HIM "

[hearty dagger]

DD is our fun little broken ass fella

[still hearth]

DD description is also fun

The chance to mark a target is 100%

What they probably meant is that it picks a random target

[thin finch]

It works at the end of the day but I wish a marked target would not get unmarked and that multiple targert could exist , or be visible , at the same time

[still hearth]

DD: Get the wrong target? Just turn around LMAO!

[spice veldt]

A player read a Fatshark description. This is what happened to their brain.

[thin finch]

I don't think it's based on where you look

[bleak tulip]

I am not well dr bernard

[still hearth]

It was tested and it definitely shifted when that person looked around but idk how much they tested

[bleak tulip]

I played DD for like two weeks

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/a2roz0

[still hearth]

But yeah who knows

[spice veldt]

oh wait

wrong video

where's the funnier one

[still hearth]

I wonder if its both distance and where you're looking

[spice veldt]

the streamable videos are gone but here's a less-funny but clearer demonstration of it https://streamable.com/m6xrhb

[thin finch]

I dunno , can't say it that is convinces me from my weird little time running it .
Maybe it's because in game I am looking frantically aroung so eh

[bleak tulip]

why tf that even work like that

[spice veldt]

syllogism had a video of him spinning around with two bruisers behind and in front of him

and the mark just constantly switched between them

[still hearth]

DD is another poor soul lost in the "sounds good on paper" ideas.

[spice veldt]

it has some leniency mechanics baked in

[bleak tulip]

it almost works pretty well

[spice veldt]

too bad that one of them don't work

and marked targets not glowing also sucks ass

two major bugs that just cripple it

it does seem like they thought out the problems with it

and just need to fix the bugs

[thin finch]

welp

time to bed anyways, it's getting late

cya peps , don't let the voices get in

[spice veldt]

no i'll stick to my psyker rp

[bleak tulip]

its true arco randomly starts screaming

[spice veldt]

i would never

[spice oar]

I actually saw arco drop to his knees in a wallmart parking lot

[spice veldt]

I don't like how you're recounting it

[spice oar]

This you?

[spice veldt]

no i'm not josho

[spice oar]

Right

That's just unsetteling

[bleak tulip]

forbidden metal band photos

[spice oar]

Nah I'm genuienly tweaking

[spice veldt]

at the old age of 20, i have no idea in what context "tweaking" is being used

[spice oar]

You said my name

So I thought i got like flash doxxed

[spice veldt]

josho?

[spice oar]

Close enough

[spice veldt]

@lunar hollow is the short gremlin thing that I was referring to, though he's currently called "jough" because a witch called stan cast a curse upon him

i need to stop spelling words phonetically

[spice oar]

Am I high rn

[spice veldt]

yes

[spice oar]

Wait nvm stabalising brain working shits processing I understand what is happening

[lunar hollow]

how could u do this to me

[spice veldt]

i was merely listing out the facts of history

collateral damage may have been done

but that is the price of accurate history-telling

why does the knife not have a deterministic one-shot on dogs without a crit

what is this crap

[cloud heron]

so what are people using on auric missions? Trauma staff seems to be getting me the best results

You want 76% burn for the last buff to the DoT. Replace terrifying barrage with warp nexus and stamina for flak

Damage is actually the dump stat for the purge staff since the damage comes from the DoT but quell is probably second preferred.

Cloud radius is also really important but 71% is useable. Wouldn't buy it from Melk myself unless you really want a purge staff

[primal plume]

Trauma staff feels sluggish as fuck now

[fathom adder]

Voidstrike mogs everything right now, even if Trauma et al. weren't utterly cucked by their short range

[shy pewter]

Is Perilous Combustion good in combo with Purgatus Staff or is it just diminishing returns? Seems like Wildfire is enough?

[spice veldt]

don't worry; perilous combustion is completely busted https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1yMHLPVTGKuVoq/d1337Qb7VBFa?invite=cr-MSxQODYsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[lethal folio]

Perilous combustion is godlike and wildfire is shit

[shy pewter]

Got it backwards, thanks for the input

[obtuse moth]

wildfire is crap

it goes to max 4 stacks which doesnt do much, and dies out at 1 stack and has a gazillion other conditions

max 4 as in if something already has 4 it wont do anything. not max 4 additional stacks

[shy pewter]

Ah thats dumb, I thought it was 4 more stacks, up to a max of hte dying target

If its flat 4 stacks thats garbage

[echo turtle]

Shout out to clyde if he's a member. These two new players decided they would join maelstrom and get carried and without clyde in the match they would have been disapointed

[obtuse moth]

its fine for getting the intial soulblaze going

just not for anything else :/

[echo turtle]

holy crap though, if you having been playing the game for a few weeks yet for the love of god dont join maelstrom

[shy pewter]

If I'm running purgatus I don't need any help getting the stacks started 😆

[obtuse moth]

theres 4 clydes in this discord lol

might need the steam name to figure out which one

[fresh reef]

Scrier's and Assail is a really fun combo. Excited for the nerfs

[echo turtle]

These guys were beyond brutal, they wasted every single medkit, once throwing it down right in front of a medicae

[shy pewter]

I get so many people joining pug maelstroms that have no business being there. New players just checking out the scary icon I guess lol

[obtuse moth]

had pugs do that multiple times in a row

[echo turtle]

I get there are a lot of new players, but holy shit

[obtuse moth]

i mean if theyre doing standard maelstrom idc, but don't jump from malice or heresy to auric maelstrom

[spice veldt]

the game enabling them to have the offensive wherewithwal to do maelstroms but not enough game experience for certain peaks

[echo turtle]

it was auric maelstrom

they died or were downed in every single engagement

[shy pewter]

I'm talking auric

[spice veldt]

and not knowing where the medicaes are >:(

[echo turtle]

both of them dropped medkits when no one was injured but them

[obtuse moth]

sub 30s should be bant from auric maelstrom, even if theyre in a party

[lunar hollow]

this image has power.

[obtuse moth]

play all the other aurics idc

[spice veldt]

l4d2 grindset

[echo turtle]

and they were aware they were being carried, but didnt reserve them for the players that were actually doing all the work

[spice veldt]

yeah; get FUCKED

[lunar hollow]

do u know what happened

i was at 2 hp no toughness and 2 scab shooters popped out of cover

and bagged an oggie

[spice veldt]

lamayo

[shy pewter]

I played an auric maelstrom solo for about 10 minutes before a wipe because I was joined by 3 level 20-24 players. They were dead instantly every time, and if I revived them they'd literally die within 3 seconds

[lunar hollow]

those guys were so happy

and then they died

[spice veldt]

imagine not creating toughness from thin air

cringe?

[fresh reef]

@spice veldt do you think Assail will be nerfed enough to placate the Malice gamers?

[spice veldt]

no

[lunar hollow]

very true i shouldve magdumped my insp barrage ripper into a wall

[echo turtle]

I put true level back on, im not playing with anyone under 60 anymore, all of them have been trash

[spice veldt]

it's only a 50 damage decrease and I doubt that's hurting any real breakpoints

[lunar hollow]

the bigger jump is the melee elite hp increase

[spice veldt]

true

[lunar hollow]

2400 hp ragers 🙂

[spice veldt]

assail psykers might actually have to swap off to their other weapon

[fresh reef]

They're only 1400 are they not?

[spice veldt]

when a squad of 7x 2400hp ragers descends upon them

they currently have 1600, so a +50% increase = 2400 hp

[lunar hollow]

1600 hp on damnation currently

[obtuse moth]

i think it was straight buffed in terms of malice lol

[lunar hollow]

take the values in the patch notes and double em and u get the damnation numbers iirc

[obtuse moth]

you can still spam AND you have the strong assails if you want them. they got free 400 damage right clicks

[fresh reef]

Oh weird. I could've sworn notes said 800 to 1400

[spice veldt]

oh right they're using malice numbers probably

[fresh reef]

My memory lately man, I might as well qualify as a grandma

[lunar hollow]

fairly certain its for sedition lol

[fresh reef]

Ahh, base hp

[fierce crest]

Void

[fresh reef]

Is that Sedition then?

I forgor

[lunar hollow]

the change to assail is mind-boggling because its supposed to be a quickswap weapon

[fierce crest]

Playing more I've actually grown to dislike playing with void more than assail

[willow escarp]

What’s the change?

[obtuse moth]

watching crushers go poof takes all the fun out of seeing them

[lunar hollow]

they decreased LMB damage and buffed the RMB damage

[spice veldt]

they nerfed the LMB's damage and buffed the RMB's damage

[lunar hollow]

fuck u

[spice veldt]

imagine being slow

[bleak tulip]

make the weapon less spammy by requiring people to use more shards to kill shit and not changing the reload

[lunar hollow]

i was first on my screen

[spice veldt]

i was first

[lunar hollow]

the decrease shouldve been to the availability of shards

[obtuse moth]

uh, less?

[spice veldt]

shoot the ammo economy in the knees

[fierce crest]

[spice veldt]

how much did he pay you

[bleak tulip]

balans

[austere burrow]

i don't make $10k and tell 💅

[spice veldt]

you bastard

[lunar hollow]

lmfao

[fresh reef]

Arco was second, sans photoshop

Sad

[tired jackal]

longer is better

[lunar hollow]

its about how u use the size of the message

[tired jackal]

says a non longer 😛

[spice veldt]

paid

[bleak tulip]

@spice veldt

[spice veldt]

paid

[spice veldt]

not paid

[bleak tulip]

fuck

[fierce crest]

This is why the Mk4 duel sword is the worst

[fresh reef]

I'm a shill for the facts

[spice veldt]

a shill for MONEY you CAPITALISTIC PIG

[lyric burrow]

damn

[spice veldt]

blam blam blam

shot with the bullets of truth

[fresh reef]

no that's called being silly

[bleak tulip]

u silly

[cerulean pollen]

What is the difference between the Duelling sword Mk2 and Mk5?

[humble star]

Doing this in pubs: challenge level impossible

[bleak tulip]

about 3

[humble star]

Reroll pls

[bleak tulip]

keep rolling money is fake anyway

[humble star]

rerolling challenges needs a hard cap at 5k

[fierce crest]

Sedition with bubble shield

[bleak tulip]

at least you can keep rerolling now

[humble star]

bruh not about to play sedition, if anything I'm sure new players will still find a way to die

[winter magnet]

anyone got that link to the reddit post where they had a consolidated list of all upcoming provsional patches that effected psyker?

[fierce crest]

Bubble shield

[humble star]

We went from complete dogshit system to mostly dogshit system. Progress

[austere burrow]

you can't get matched with properly new players because of the matchmaking

so it should be mostly other level 30s trying to rush challenges

[bleak tulip]

the system is the same, they just fixed a bug

[humble star]

Ofc that was a bug around for that long

[fierce crest]

Had multiple sub 20s join my damnation maelstrom earlier today

We did not win

[austere burrow]

lol

serves you right for not queueing auric

[fierce crest]

40 seconds in
"There's so many bursters"

(it was a burster horde maelstrom)

[trim garnet]

whats god roll voidstrike?

[rocky osprey]

first auric done \o/ and with a team full of psykers lmao

[fierce crest]

Literally anything, then slap smite blessing on it

[humble star]

Surge

[fierce crest]

Yeah fucking

Whatever

[trim garnet]

yea but like what do you take other than flak for perks

[fierce crest]

Carapace

[trim garnet]

i see

[bleak tulip]

nexus surge

[fierce crest]

Monstro

Maniac

[trim garnet]

unyielding any good?

[fierce crest]

Yeah that's monstro

[bleak tulip]

meh

[trim garnet]

i feel like it already kinda explodes maniacs

but if unyielding is for monstrosities thats kinda niche

[bleak tulip]

flak > maniac on void

[fierce crest]

but does it 1shot them on bodyshot

[humble star]

Just check your breakpoints. Also take into account those breakpoints might change with the next patch

[trim garnet]

hit head 4head

true the nerf is coming

[quasi junco]

Void strike getting nerfed chooms

[trim garnet]

any info on what the specific nerf is??

[humble star]

yes

Patch notes are already out, nerf isn't anything big except the crusher damage.

[quasi junco]

Charged attack

Charged attack and Carapace ratio

[strong gulch]

Look at the heavy attack pattern. Mk 2 has a cleave heavy 2 while the MK 5 has strike downs.

[bleak tulip]

void'll probably still best staff with the nerf even :c

[quasi junco]

Purgatus is my fav

[humble star]

One day, they will let my Trauma staff with surge be good

[cloud heron]

is there some secret to the void staff? I have transfer peril for infinite quell but every time I use it I just feel like a worse veteran

[quasi junco]

Well you have infinite ammo lol

[rocky osprey]

wow ok. suggestions? never really played with sabre so idk how to build it

[humble star]

damage to specialists to flak or something else you want. Shred 3 to shred 4

[strong gulch]

You're basically done. For sure keep uncanny and maniac.

Shred and specials is good, but you have the luxury to play around with what works with your play style and overall build.

[rocky osprey]

holy cow testing this thing in the psykhanium. can only imagine what it's like to have a nice Mk IV lmfao

[strong gulch]

Shred takes time to build up but isn't bad to maintain. Riposte gets you there faster but you have to make those dodges.

[rocky osprey]

i do tend to dodge a lot, i'll play around with it

tyty

[strong gulch]

I'm curious how MK 2 is going to feel after the buff.

[humble star]

Does riposte stay if you swap weapons? never used it but if so that would be really good

[strong gulch]

20% crit chance after a dodge

[humble star]

I know the wording. just want to know if it persists, because many blessings in the game don't

the moment you swap they go away

[strong gulch]

Yes it does.

[humble star]

awesome

[primal plume]

The increased cast time feels like direct nerf to trauma

its so slow and sluggish

even with 3 stacks

and when you finall cast it

unless youre dead on

you just stagger whatever it is you hit

feels bad

[ornate hamlet]

What makes it even worse is that trauma's damage isnt, like... great to begin with

[spice veldt]

increased cast time?

looks the same to me or did i misread the patch 14 notes

[primal plume]

Trauma feels painfully slow since the update

[ornate hamlet]

Why use it over literally any other staff when it is both less likely to actually hit the target + does less damage than crit voidstrike/surge?

[spice veldt]

that's just trauma

[spice veldt]

cuz trauma does an AoE in an area

[primal plume]

Voidstrike got it too

But void actually does damage to justify its slow cast

trauma just feels like ass

[spice veldt]

i meant "that's just trauma" in the sense that the staff encourages you to charge it more

[ornate hamlet]

Sure but for less charge time two voidstrike shots will bowl down whatever you wanted to hit too

[spice veldt]

true, we should always use overtuned stuff as our baseline

trauma has been an anti-melee staff for a while

[ornate hamlet]

You can say the voidstrike is overtuned rn, sure, but it was the same before current update too

[spice veldt]

just go play a melee maelstrom with it and you'll see its advantages

[spice veldt]

are you high

voidstrike was basically the worst staff before patch 13

or at least, one of the contenders for it

[ornate hamlet]

No Im saying Trauma was the same before

Shit staff which does nothing batter than its contemporaries

[spice veldt]

yeah, it's mechanically the same

and trauma was considered the best generalist before patch 13

[ornate hamlet]

If I want my staff to knock enemies back from melee range m1 with purgatus did the same trick

And if I was surrounded by maulers/crushers I fucked up in the first place

[spice veldt]

can't help that with melee maelstrom

and i think you are severely understating trauma's stagger and damage

like, it's single-target is pretty shit

but it does this in an AoE

and its stagger knocks everything to the ground, which is time for you and your teammates to do whatever

if you're not taking advantage of the stagger, that's fine; not the staff or playstyle for you

but just because you use a staff like shit doesn't mean that the staff is shit

[ornate hamlet]

I would agree if we werent currently in the update that added the ability known as Smite to the game

Though I guess being able to mass stagger while still having Assail is nice

[vestal fulcrum]

Smite does not deal damage, though

[spice veldt]

damn it's almost like there are different builds depending on if you take trauma or smite

smite's role does not supersede trauma's role

and neither does trauma supersede smite's role

and especially because they're on different slots

[arctic roost]

Just hit 30 and spent 15k plasteel and 300k ordo dockets on the staff alone. Got super lucky on my sword since it's the first mk4 I upgraded

[spice veldt]

I don't like non-meta weapons either, but we don't have to frame a guilty person. Let's not undercut Trauma's AoE stagger and damage https://streamable.com/g676yb

[covert ermine]

I run void on malestorm and its basically a better magic plasmagun. Still struggle with endless hordes

[spice veldt]

damn lookin good

[royal falcon]

hello siblings and/or edgers what weapons do you use w/ scrier's gaze

[arctic roost]

Besides uncanny strikes 4 is there a diff perk I can take to fully minmax the mk4?

[humble star]

Before patch 13? Hell nah

[royal falcon]

why your darktide like that

[spice veldt]

prob swap +Unarmoured into Unyielding/Carapace/Maniac; whatever you think is necessary

[arctic roost]

Ok thanks 😊

[spice veldt]

+crit chance is fine for the MK4 since it's generally applying, even if the bonus is low. For gambling addicts but not bad

[ornate hamlet]

Do all our staves have the same crit rate? Someone told me Voidstrike has more base crit rate than others, but it isn't mentioned in the Atheneum, if true.

[bleak tulip]

guns, melee

[spice veldt]

I like my shred on MK4, but I run Trauma so enemies are usually sitting on the ground so I don't have an opportunity to proc the dodge blessings

can't really go wrong with picking between upgrading uncanny to t4 or picking another blessing in place of shred

or just leave it there and wait for future updates to see how things change so you have one modification free

[bleak tulip]

arco is from the 90's and cant let em go

[royal falcon]

hops into the first quickplay game of the day

[spice veldt]

i ate my gpu

[humble star]

If riposte can apply to my staff/gun im definitely running it over shred now

[bleak tulip]

dont pretend you have a gpu

its unbecoming

[spare light]

Melk got this puppy, but I'm feeling next to the stats, it's kinda mediocre

[bleak tulip]

in which I basically solo hisg

[spice veldt]

:pensive:

[bleak tulip]

they were very chill but in over their heads

one was 23

[thin wave]

Probably a lazy question but what are the significant differences between each force sword?

[bleak tulip]

[spice veldt]

besides attack patterns, Illisi has a different special, and Deimos has both a light and heavy stab that deal bonus damage

obscurus is basically just sad since its light stab is its 3rd light and very inaccessible, having no other remarkable attribute

[spice veldt]

Illisi's special being akin to the Power Sword's, if you've played vet

[thin wave]

Ah thanks! I use the Illisi personally, but really only use it is a panic button shield.

[spice veldt]

toughness grindset with Soulstealer

[thin wave]

I feel like Assail weirdly enough is a more effective weapons in melee that swords are

[bleak tulip]

[spice veldt]

yeah esp if the enemies aren't clumped up

[bleak tulip]

less so on very high difficulties but youre not wrong

I mean it still works wonders for hordeclear

just yknow

crusherblobs

[thin wave]

Always got the Nomadus staff for those crushers!

[humble star]

Dont worry guys, they are nerfing assail regen speed and total shard count.... right?

[bleak tulip]

[spice veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/aaaa-gif-25651926

[thin wave]

Oh yeah, down from 250 to 200. That’s gonna hurt.

[bleak tulip]

I mean

barely

its the entirely wrong way to do it

the damage isnt the problem, the spammability is

[humble star]

Yea p sure he was being sarcastic

[bleak tulip]

I dont do sarcasm

[full bane]

Let’s hope that they realize that assail needs a harder nerf (spoiler it won’t happen)

[thin wave]

But I like mindlessly spamming!

[spare light]

Smite should get buffed

[full bane]

The only thing balancing assail right now is the amount of brain dead players that use it

[thin wave]

Crystal bees are the only weapon you need

[river stirrup]

Any good build for a Surge Staff ?

[full bane]

No offense to y’all

[humble star]

Make it do even less damage so I can start my pacifist runs

[spice veldt]

i'm proud of my gapless, defensible brain

[bleak tulip]

no wrinkles no weakness

[thin wave]

The Emperor would be proud of you.

[river stirrup]

🙄

[past brook]

I'd lower assail's base damage even more, but increase weakspot damage
so it takes at least a little skill to use, and would be much more difficult to mow down a horde

[spice veldt]

you can't really aim assail to hit weakspots so that would really only add more variability

I really would just shoot its ammo economy in the knees

[river stirrup]

lol

[spice veldt]

you shouldn't ever have an incentive to hold it out for more than a few seconds at most

not even the RMB is consistent for headshots

[past brook]

makes me wonder if they just made it work like zealot knives, hit your blitz button to launch one

[bleak tulip]

that would be cool

[spice veldt]

hmm

[thin wave]

I mean, I’d use secondary more if there was a little more ricochet perhaps? I spam primary on assail because I want to hit as many targets as possible.

[bleak tulip]

ideally shoot like two at a time

[spice veldt]

yeah the RMB is quite too slow to be used

[bleak tulip]

one alone aint worth much

[restive slate]

I want right click to throw all knives at once

[spice veldt]

I really want assail to be a quickswap weapon

low ammo economy so you're encouraged to swap between it

because the unique thing about it is that it regenerates while you're using your other weapons

[full bane]

Just plummet the recharge time into the ground

[humble star]

with the big damage increase to RMB coming. All they need to do now is heavily nerf regen rate. Easy fix to make people use RMB more.

[spice veldt]

shoot the kneecaps of its max ammo count and ammo regen

[south zephyr]

worth getting for psyker?

[languid tusk]

controversial opinion: dueling sword mk4 does the deimos work better than deimos

[full bane]

It’s like 10 or 12 atm right?

[spice veldt]

yeah 10

[bleak tulip]

I have no idea which the good headhunter is

[full bane]

Half that shit

[spice veldt]

looking good, though it'd be a 3/4ths good weapon at best

[restive slate]

Not really controversial tbh

[humble star]

Where have you been since patch 13 dropped... This isn't controversial is it?

[spice veldt]

since Psyker has Empathic Evasion to take the role of Ghost

[feral verge]

this is one of my most sexual weapons @spice veldt

[south zephyr]

what's the ideal?

[spice veldt]

so you'll prob want to slap Surgical/Headhunter in place of it

[bleak tulip]

tantric stick

[spice veldt]

we'll have to see how the MK7's fire rate looks like in the new patch

[languid tusk]

most of the time i dont use the special on deimos, i just spam heavies

which is what i do on the dueling sword, only they do more damage

[humble star]

that's all anyone did with the deimos tbh, heavy 2

[restive slate]

I almosy don't use Force Swords anymore

[spice veldt]

Ghost --> Surgical/Headhunter
a perk into whatever (no idea so you might want to ask in vet chat or ask tinyangrycrab)

[restive slate]

Even illisi has been ignored

[south zephyr]

thank ye

[spice veldt]

i'll kill you for it

[languid tusk]

headhunter usually you put flak maniac so you oneshot trappers and bombers on a crit or on a headshot (on a headshot crit they disappear from existence)

[feral verge]

its better than yours? hahahahhahahahahahhaha

[spice veldt]

no, because your very being does not deserve to use the trauma

[languid tusk]

insert evil psyker laugh here

[spice veldt]

dis is what i'm using

[humble star]

Surge Trauma is the future

[feral verge]

(its better than his)

[spice veldt]

ignore my deranged blessing combination

[lethal lagoon]

I can't

[feral verge]

@spice veldt

[spice veldt]

i said ignore it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/297184198865846272/1140324909579501649/image.png?ex=6547c654&is=65355154&hm=bd67bdc2f56b7b3389811a0c90aa544259a31d3aa35ff141200cf413d0ccfd4e&

[feral verge]

jealous?

[restive slate]

Lol surge trauma?

[lethal lagoon]

🙏

[spice veldt]

warp nexus cringe

imagine not being on the True Aim grindset?

[bleak tulip]

[humble star]

Just you wait till they make it finally do something useful

[restive slate]

Double explosion

[humble star]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[spice veldt]

damn Surge Trauma with True Aim would be kind of nutty

[thin wave]

Have there ever been cases of people rolling 100s on every stat?

[spice veldt]

(assuming that they don't get knocked out of the way of the 2nd explosion)

[bleak tulip]

nope 80's max

for now

soon

[humble star]

could also make it work with blazing spirit or rending shockwave for memes

[spice veldt]

much to think about

[restive slate]

Imagine they fix Trauma so the rmb kills count as weakspots

[languid tusk]

imagine if trauma secondary becomes warp attack so you can buff it with talent tree

[spice veldt]

you'd have to pay fatshark 10 billion dollars for them to do that

[feral verge]

@spice veldt if i wanted to be CRAZY and use a staff lmb as my main weapon, should i use surge staff, or trauma staff with surge blessing

[spice veldt]

wtf

[bleak tulip]

trauma back on the menu boys

[spice veldt]

trauma w/ surge blessing does sound good

but surge does give a sizeable amount of crit chance

hmm an 80% crit bonus surge gives +21% crit chance

so you can attain ~60% crit chance with Surge

[languid tusk]

this is my trauma, I'm pretty happy about it. some of you have very impressive traumas but I think this isn't too bad

[spice veldt]

rumbling and tumbling

[feral verge]

go into psykhanium and test it

[spice veldt]

hmm, does Sustained Fire work

[feral verge]

i demand it arco

[spice veldt]

you bitch

fine

[feral verge]

surge trauma lmb vs surge lmb

[spice veldt]

no i'm not gonna test that too lazy

i'm gonna test if sustained fire works on the staff LMB

[feral verge]

no

test what i demand

[thin wave]

Yeah listen to Manky Cameraman

[spice veldt]

hmm it does work

hmm both shots from Surge crit

so on average, a Trauma w/ Surge will be better than Surge probably?

though I'm not accounting for sustained fire if you slap that onto it

[harsh urchin]

use me daddy

[spice veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/897990245658787881.webp?size=80&quality=lossless

[harsh urchin]

[feral verge]

@spice veldt i try this

[humble star]

Add a quick riposte dodge to that for an extra 20%?

[spice veldt]

okie go die

[feral verge]

kinda suprsied by the damage

[spice veldt]

would be nutty if riposte worked like that

but I'm pretty sure that they have code to distinguish between melee and ranged crit attacks

because you used to be able to consume Bloodthirsty on the smack specials of weapons

[humble star]

does it not? Damn, thought whoever was showing their tests earlier was saying it worked like that

[spice veldt]

i'm not sure

it would be extremely nice if it did though

where da tests

i wanna see

[humble star]

fuck I don't want to ping them, way up there

[spice veldt]

oh the one from potato

[humble star]

Although I asked if it persisted. Not if it applied to only melee damage. So the buff probably just stays up but doesn't count like you said

[ivory sail]

what do I need to change on this weapon im new to Psyker