psyker-class

[compact cargo]

what am I looking for?

[inner maple]

problem with restarting and higher levels is that you get complete noobs in the higher level so everyone just dies because they don't dodge or strafe

[trail forge]

A sword to start with

[gentle hinge]

LMAO

yeah that does help alot

[rain meadow]

https://youtu.be/z8PiPqZvxCo

@inner maple

[compact cargo]

I have one, what now?

[rain meadow]

hope that helps ya

[inner maple]

thanks

[rain meadow]

youtube is such a convenient way for me to record short clips of things i want to demonstrate and share them with people

[inner maple]

yeah I keep waffling back and forth between OBS and XSplit cuz' I have a lifetime pro license

[fading galleon]

great work 🫡

[cinder moon]

that's not bad tbh

[gentle hinge]

can still change stuff on it so

[cinder moon]

something like this

[compact cargo]

Perfect

I got it just like this one, thanks brother

[dim parrot]

is shred better then riposte?

[rain meadow]

do u like doing crits?

[dim parrot]

shit idk

I like big damage

[chilly mantle]

do u like throwing glass?

[rain meadow]

does your build want you to crit things?

[dim parrot]

not necessarily

[rain meadow]

well then the answer is maybe

[chilly mantle]

we're detectives I tell ya

[queen fog]

i wish to steal u for some darktide, my last request i forgot to add a ping to the reply; u down?

[chilly mantle]

Yeah gimme a couple minutes to turn the game on

[queen fog]

word use whatever u please ima probs give ammo to it if ur not a witch

[chilly mantle]

Sweet

[queen fog]

hell even if u are a witch and rocking gun psyker shit i'd be happy to lend my 1% ammo

my FS codes in my nickname so u can just slap that in when ur games booted up

[slender minnow]

Is it possible to have a build where I don't need to rely on that dumb psyche buildup?

Want to play Psyker but hate how I need to manage my power 😭

[queen fog]

a build on a psyker where they minimize the use of the psyker gimmick? interesting

maybe something with alot of quell speed so the percent goes down alot faster

[slender minnow]

Sounds counter intuitive but was wondering if there is an ability that isn't as annoying as the base ability

[queen fog]

or something like battle meditation where u got a chance when u kill things to quell it

[chilly mantle]

Fantastic

[slender minnow]

Takes forever to build up your power and it only pops like one head

[jagged forge]

Hello - New to the game - any good solid talent build please.

[near wyvern]

check atheneum in pinned messages

[queen fog]

ya the single target power blitz gets overshadowed by the other 2 alot due to the other 2's ability to deal with hordes

i suggest smite if u dont wanna care about peril, its got a built in quell when u reach 99%

[gentle hinge]

my build lets you brain burst for no peril gain but also adds the gimmick of needing to keep Empowered Psionics stacks up at all times to make it work

[chilly mantle]

there was another guy who wanted to help too be sure to grab em

[queen fog]

the rabbit broski? ill shoot em a ping and see how he is

@chilly mantle he has informed me he has done the thing, but is still down to purge normally

[rain meadow]

knoife

[near wyvern]

check atheneum in pinned messages for some different build examples and then modify from there

[chilly mantle]

Fine by me

[queen fog]

aight bet ima yeet myself into ST 14

[potent echo]

Athenaeum updated?

Toughness regeneration speed perk gives you more toughness?

[gritty tree]

tips on what to change?

[rain meadow]

well it depends

[potent echo]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[rain meadow]

ya see, blocking BULLETS is pretty good

[potent echo]

A very comprehensive answer can be found here

[gritty tree]

i can just kill people

[gritty tree]

i aint reading all that

[potent echo]

Well you can have sus answers from me

[gritty tree]

fuck it, trust me gut I will

[rain meadow]

when there are like 4 gunners shooting at you from different angles? yeah good luck

[potent echo]

Change crit chance to maniac and you should be golden

[rain meadow]

id rather have that extra second of "nope fuck you"

[gritty tree]

[wise ruin]

any recommendations for blessings and perks on dueling sword mk 5?

should i switch riposte for shred maybe?

[near wyvern]

same as mk 4 check atheneum in pihnned messages

[ornate hamlet]

Buff duelling Mk 5 😦 Mk 4 is too good.

[plucky flax]

5 is getting buff.

I expect all 3 duelling swords to do the same headshot damage. Then it's up to moveset preference.

[ornate hamlet]

Not by comparison. All duelling swords receive the same, so the balance/preference does not change I suppose.

[near wyvern]

they don't

[ornate hamlet]

Would be nice if Mk 5 and 2 receive a bigger buff, but all get the same. Nothing changes.

[plucky flax]

They are adjusting mk5 finesse damage no?

[potent echo]

Is 5 getting a buff?

[near wyvern]

all of them get a buff

[ornate hamlet]

Only on basic LMBs, not on heavies I think.

[plucky flax]

Yeah but right now mk5 doesn't do what it says.

[jagged forge]

is keyboard/mouse better than Controller...?

[potent echo]

Maccabian Mk V Duelling Sword

● Light Attack Cleave:

○ 3 to 4.5.

● Light Strikedown Attack Base Damage (0%, 80% Damage Stat):

○ 1st Target: 75, 135 to 100, 180.

○ 2nd Target: 25, 53 to 25, 53.

○ 3rd Target: 15, 27 to 15, 27.

○ 4th Target: 10, 18 to 10, 18.

● Light Strikedown Attack Armour Modifiers:

○ Flak: 75% to 80%.

○ Unyielding: 100% to 125%.

○ Carapace: 25% to 50%.

● Light Strikedown Attack Finesse Modifier (0%, 80% Damage Stat):

○ 75, 135 to 100, 180.

● Heavy Strikedown Attack Armour Modifiers:

○ Unyielding: 75% to 100%.

Well heavy does more to unyielding soon

I like the light strikedown though, combos nicely from the special stb

[plucky flax]

Hrm why no finesse increase on heavy.

Whyyyyyy

[ornate hamlet]

That is what saddens me. 😦 Would have been good otherwise.

[plucky flax]

Makes no sense why mk5 heavy just got shafted this patch.

[near wyvern]

[potent echo]

[vestal fulcrum]

Do they expect us to spec Mk5 into Rampage

[plucky flax]

Idk but rampage is useless for me. I don't horde clear with duelling sword.

[potent echo]

MkV has like the least cleave (at least it feels that way)

[glad meadow]

i want to do a pacifist run

[dim parrot]

lmao vet left when he saw I had assail equipped

[covert mountain]

forever chasing the high of getting the perk I want to unlock

omg i just got it

had to complain

[eager token]

warp flurry

[young meteor]

I got my warp flurry IV last week

[vestal fulcrum]

I still can’t get Surge on Voidstrike

[covert mountain]

thats what i was going for

lol

happi now

[naive imp]

mateo idk where you are but if you're reading this...you a greedy mfer

lol

[plucky flax]

[urban echo]

Trauma staff will be goat next patch

Infinite cleave and similar damage shall be amazing

[acoustic spade]

Are the voices in my head just more silent than usual

Or has the Morningstar always had these constant sounds of "flies buzzing around"

[carmine agate]

like buzz

or the buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz voice

[plucky flax]

Wut? It always did that.

[acoustic spade]

had to download OBS just to record that

[dim parrot]

u hearing ghosts ngl

[vestal fulcrum]

It’s an audio bug that’s likely caused by you being rescued by somebody invisible

[lunar hollow]

thats a pre-horde sound

strange

[acoustic spade]

I wasnt rescued, I didnt get disabled even once

[vestal fulcrum]

Was somebody else?

[acoustic spade]

Horde on the morningstar Inc?

yeah, a guy was launched out of the map by a poxburster early on in the mission

[covert mountain]

bruh took the pictures with the brightness down

[coarse scroll]

guys which voidstrike staff stats is more important?? i plan to use staff to fight elite and boss and use the shard to fight horde and normal enemy

[lunar hollow]

both are decent, i would probably go with surge/nexus purely because with true aim you can shit out double-balls fairly consistently

[lyric burrow]

Damage/charge rate are top 2

[lunar hollow]

your dumpstat is either warp res or quell speed, a minor decrease in blast radius is also fine

you never dump damage or charge rate

[coarse scroll]

do damage and charge rate for voidstrike recommended how many percent at minimum?

[lyric burrow]

70

For me

[lunar hollow]

i would never go below 70 for either

with staffs, all the stats are functionally important unlike weapons where you can consistently dump mobility

[coarse scroll]

so at least both damage and charge need to be above 70% correct? then i will roll it until i get the stats

[lunar hollow]

so i wouldn't even touch anything below a 360 personally

consensus goes back and fourth between warp res/quell for most people

you can make arguments for either as a dumpstat, really just depends on what u prefer

because low stats bad smh

i run flurry + surge and mostly rely on true aim for crits

but also im abusing perilous combustion

[covert mountain]

yess

combustion

[lunar hollow]

so its more about consistent stacking of flames rather than the surge itself

https://streamable.com/r7l46g

the last two shotgunners are taking 370-400 soulblaze damage a tick because the stack cap is the hard-coded 31 rather than the normal 16

[covert mountain]

the goat combo

[lunar hollow]

if ur running monstro maelstrom with void i would always have flurry

since it helps chainstagger bosses with repeated weakspot hits

[carmine tinsel]

Anyone know what rating of a grey staff i should be rolling for to hopefully end up with a better voidstrike than what i have now?

[rustic oak]

How do you get health bars on enemy’s?

[lunar hollow]

its a mod

[rustic oak]

Aw

[spare light]

Mods really make some things better

oh Kallo! I started using Surge a lot more

My biggest issue with surge is I have no way of dealing with far away snipers

Running Smite/Surge

[hoary charm]

Unlimited lightnings

[spare light]

EP with assail?

I really don't like using assail though

[hoary charm]

Smite with EP has unlimited use right now, its bugged for now

No peril gain

At all

[spare light]

That's why I don't use it

[hoary charm]

Its genuinely helpful to the team too

Clutching in bad situations

[spare light]

It's not optimal in the least but it's fun

[hoary charm]

You can stop a mutant hoard with it

The mutants make funny noises when you stunlock them

[spare light]

like getting punched 50 times a second

[hoary charm]

Smite is genuinely better than assail in its current state

[spare light]

Right now I enjoy void with BB & flat shields and surge with smite

[hoary charm]

People dont like assail cause it killsteals

[spare light]

Which is mind boggling to me cause well, co-op game

we're all killing heretics ain't we?

[hoary charm]

Penances probably

Smite can end hoards alone

Add soulblaze and then youll have so much snowballing damage

[spare light]

@wary gulch Would running Surge without Warp Charges be shit?

[coarse scroll]

guys want to confirm, does curios perk combat speed regeneration also affect on telekine shield cooldown and stack together with seer presence passive?

[spare light]

Right I keep forgetting EP also increases damage

[opaque tulip]

Which staff is it that is a flamethrower? Also, does said staff apply soulblaze to targets?

[spare light]

Run with 3 speedy zealots, wish me luck

[spare light]

Purgatus

[opaque tulip]

Ty! 😄

[coarse scroll]

anyone got input about this?

[summer prairie]

yes and they stack

[coarse scroll]

nice. good to know

last question, do warp siphons will have any impact on assail shards?

[near wyvern]

They increase the damage if you have the relative talent and reduce peril cost with inner tranquility

[coarse scroll]

i thought about using assail shards to give me the warp siphons and then using it to cast more telekine shield as i need. i hope assail shard don really use up the warp siphons

i mean intefere on cooldown

[near wyvern]

Warp Siphon charges are only consumed on ability a.k.a ult use, that would be the shield in your case

And the cooldown reduction only applies correctly to venting shriek at the moment

Shield gets instantly pack on consuming even a single warp charge and scrier's gaze does not currently benefit from it at all

[spare light]

I do wish you could toggle off the warp charges usage on using career

[lunar hollow]

really it should probably be an upgrade you opt into

but like, fuckin almost nobody ran quicken before

[summer prairie]

because you had to choose, now you just run all 3

[lunar hollow]

they decoupled KB and AB from warp charges

a bunch of people would just choose to run KB because it was the only one that didnt drop charges

[ornate hamlet]

Anyone having trouble gaining warp charges? Like I don’t get any at all when I kill elites or regular enemies with brainburst.

[opal pebble]

You do have the keystone for it right?

[ornate hamlet]

Most likely not since I’m pretty new.

[opal pebble]

Yeah I was confused too when I learned warp charges were optional now

Should be the purple one on the very left

[ornate hamlet]

Damn yeah.

[whole oxide]

if you've been reading/watching guides about warp charges that are more than a month old, they're all outdated

[ornate hamlet]

It says “marked” so I guess that was a leas accurate description.

[ornate hamlet]

Thanks guys. 👏👏

[near wyvern]

@summer prairie atheneum is released for patch #13

[barren arch]

eldritch blast spamming mfs

[ornate hamlet]

Do you know the max charges for the kill elites penance?

[opal pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-missile-gif-18505051

[opal pebble]

Uhhh no

The one where you need it for 300 seconds?

[ornate hamlet]

Wait it’s just 4. (Read the description).

[ornate hamlet]

Nah the kill 100 elites on warp charge 4.

[opal pebble]

Oh

[summer prairie]

That's a lot of new stuff. Should probably mention that any stagger/damage resets DD timer and if the marked target has your SB, you get a stack even if someone else kills it

technically you also get a stack if you happen to stagger/hit right before someone else kills it

[vagrant frigate]

@near wyvern u should add my build to your steam guide ☺️

(Don't)

[summer prairie]

https://streamable.com/ng2wsw

[glad meadow]

i make three trinked with resist sniper, resist flamer, resist gunner
I felt like a god

man i just move through the mission shitting on everything

until i met the assassination target, and then its 8 deaths lmao

the orgyn was clutching

[summer prairie]

Unlucky for Some also replenishes toughness for your allies when you go down https://streamable.com/p8e5e6

[glad meadow]

i think this is called irony

[spare light]

I run flurry + nexus

but I'd swap nexus out for transfer if they touch peril regen on it

[vestal fulcrum]

What perk would I want on this thing?

I finally got Surge today

[vagrant frigate]

aye

[lyric burrow]

probably maniac or unyielding depending on which you need more in your build but tbh it kills maniac well enough anyway

[fierce crest]

Change flamer to Dockets

[lyric burrow]

id just take the boss damage personally

[summer prairie]

flak is best

[glad meadow]

why, i am happy with my fashion atm

[summer prairie]

maniac is only best for your melee and even then it depends

[glad meadow]

and flame is probably my worst enemies

i got kill by the flame so god damn much

[spare light]

I don't know man, I've walked into a room with about 20 gunners and shat myself

[glad meadow]

and jumping over it doesn't help much

[summer prairie]

well I disagree

[glad meadow]

i like cover so i've been using it pretty often

i walk into a room where there is just flame

everywhere

you can't even find a spot without it

at least gunner you can like hide

[spare light]

https://tenor.com/view/sarcastic-sarcasm-terminator-thumbs-up-gif-13726704

[glad meadow]

but the act of hiding itself for flame cause you to die

[summer prairie]

I don't start full charging my void when I'm being flamered, I just lmb first and then I can do whatever

[glad meadow]

stand still cause you to die

killing the bomber can cause you to die

i just sick of the bombers

and worst, is that the bomber flame is almost indistinguishable from the uh, what is it, the zealot bomb

sometimes i die wandering into spot i thought was safe, they should really make all nurgle flame be green

at least that distinctive from the floor

[unkempt juniper]

I think they should give zealots flame a bluish tinge

[glad meadow]

eh, that warp energy

i think nurgle is green kinda make more sense

[fierce crest]

No amount of resistance prevents the 100% toughness damage

[unkempt juniper]

Rn it's just a slightly different shade of yellow-orange

[glad meadow]

i hate my auto correct

[carmine agate]

cheese

milk

[fierce crest]

Also Dockets are for buying guns

Most of the docket cosmetics suck

[glad meadow]

no but the health drain is annoying, if it was only placebo, then i guess i was playing like a god the last 5 hours thanks to it lol

anyhow, check out my gun psyker! She is in a poly relationship with the Emperor and an Eldar God, bet.

[summer prairie]

If you run Unlucky for Some you can claim you peril exploded on purpose to heal ally toughness https://streamable.com/48h0jj

they should add some toughness DR to this at least

[fierce crest]

[glad meadow]

with your two wound?

[summer prairie]

no you'll obviously run 3 wounds with this build, that's a given

[glad meadow]

look pretty great for "docket" fashion eh?

there a better black pants but i haven't got the cash to buy it yet

[hushed glade]

Have they nerfed assail yet? Haven’t touched the game when it’s in every match now

[spare light]

I've ran into it twice in 2 days

[analog agate]

Probably Thursday

[hushed glade]

Hopefully, made the game way too easy

[fierce crest]

all 3 highest rarity penance pants are black

[spare light]

Do you run creeping flame with a purg staff?

[fierce crest]

its optional

its still good

[spare light]

wait, is Solidity even needed for purg?

[summer prairie]

don't you go that way anyway when playing purg

[spare light]

using EP for BB

[glad meadow]

no way penance suck ass

[fierce crest]

[glad meadow]

so much stuff to do

who have the time for them lol

[fierce crest]

i got most before lvl 30 lul

[glad meadow]

wtf

are you playing some sort of advance auric mode?

[fierce crest]

auric is lvl 30 only :|

[glad meadow]

i didn't know that

[fierce crest]

the ones i dont have yet are cliffhanger, the private game only one, and the complete 50 missions

[glad meadow]

even then i doubt auric mission spam 10000 enemies

my kill screen end like 6000 between all 4 people at most

and that from unlimited horde bug once

[fierce crest]

yeah just those 3

i only play pugs and havent felt bothered to do cliffhanger

[paper loom]

What curious does everyone run?

[fierce crest]

the others you just get by playing

[fierce crest]

1 wound, 1 health, 1 toughness

dockets gunners toughness for perks

[paper loom]

Ah ok I take it 21% is highest health and 16% toughnsss

[fierce crest]

i think 17% toughness

but idk i have a 15

[paper loom]

Never seen one of those

[analog agate]

2 tough or 2 health plus a stam curio. Depends on my mood

[glad meadow]

Whenever they add an elf ear cosmetic (i dont care if it make no sense)

[ebon jolt]

17 toughness and 21 health. In still looking for a decent 21% health curio. I have 4 decent 17% touches curios but can’t get a good health one.

[near wyvern]

Always in such a bad health, aye?

[ebon jolt]

I run 1 health, 1 toughness and 1 3 stamina.

[near wyvern]

This is the way

[paper loom]

I just find if I get hit twice I get clapped meanwhile zealot just facetanking everything

[near wyvern]

I want 13 stamina as well on a single curio

[near wyvern]

Our faces are too pretty for smacking

Gotta matrix it

[paper loom]

I literally have thumb calluses from dodging

[ebon jolt]

I run 2x gunner res, 2x sniper res, 3x CDR and 2x stam regen. I like my CDR 😅

[severe helm]

another gun psyker says hi 👋

[paper loom]

Sniper is pretty easy to avoid but gunner yea

[glad meadow]

A silencer?

[near wyvern]

If you go devil's claw 4 and pop scries gaze you can just go in like a zealot tho, it's just like swinging a heavy sword

[glad meadow]

Hello

[near wyvern]

Laspistol is fun but damn Vraks 3 hits hard

[glad meadow]

I tried vrak 3

[ebon jolt]

I don’t know about you but sometimes I walk around a corner, no red laser and I just instantly die to a sniper.

[glad meadow]

The recoil is too much for me

[analog agate]

I was happy when I saw that is what you recommended haha. I have been running that combo for a long while now

[ebon jolt]

What was your stability attribute? You really need as close to 80 as possible.

[glad meadow]

I got a ton of them so it varies but never an 80s

[paper loom]

Las pistol feels horrible single shot

[glad meadow]

The first shot is usually fine but then it is not

I am thinking about waiting for a pay to win skin for the rak for a better iron sight cus this shit is ass...

[plucky flax]

Why run stamina if kinetic deflection already cover blocking?

[near wyvern]

Just slap infernus + dumdum on it, hit with 6 stack creeping flames and start blasting

Or alternatively weave between blasting and assail

[severe helm]

laspistol feels a lot smoother switching between melee/assail to pistol. You can also hip fire, the accuracy is high.

[glad meadow]

I like the vrak 7 more but is it underpowered or something?

[near wyvern]

Because kinetic deflection scales with max stamina so having one stamina makes you a god walking around mere mortals. You can just pick team mates up in the middle of the horde and not give a fuck.

[paper loom]

Does it work while not using the sword?

[plucky flax]

I haven't had problem ressing without stamina curios. :c

[near wyvern]

It's ok against shooty bois but missed a lot against beefier targets (reapers and monstrosities especially). Vraks 3 does 3.5k+ sustained DPS and that's counting the reloads.

Takes a bit less than a second to kill a Reaper with 4k HP

[lyric burrow]

Was there always a buffer for when you swap from blocking to ranged that you auto ads for a second unless you keep holding it

I dont remember that before

[ebon jolt]

Yes. Kinetic deflection works with any weapon or blitz you have out and scales with that weapon or blitz’s stamina pool.

[lyric burrow]

Might be a mod messing with something

[glad meadow]

Might the next update help it? How far is it falling behind for?

[near wyvern]

Kinetic deflection is the peril on block talent. Deflector is the force sword special blessing that allows you to block ranged attacks and that is not active while reviving.

[near wyvern]

We will know once we get the update.

[paper loom]

Ah yea my mistake

[glad meadow]

I mean they dont tweak mk3 dmg

[near wyvern]

Currently VII is far behind III

[ebon jolt]

A force sword has +2 stamina on top of the base 1 so a +3 curio doubles your stamina and effectively gives you 50% block efficiency. As well as making sprinting less ass.

[glad meadow]

So just need to know how much it lagging behind atm

[glad meadow]

Like 50% less?

[glad meadow]

Its so weird that carrying a sword can make you run faster than a smol pistol

[dense crow]

does kinetic pressence stack?

[vagrant frigate]

hi

[potent echo]

its a magic sword with 80% defences

dont staves give more stamina than forcesword

[ebon jolt]

I think a big part of why the Mk3 so good is how crits work on burst fire and automatic weapons. True aim makes getting crits super easy on the Mk3 and leads to a ton of extra damage with deadly accurate or whatever that crit weakspot blessing is called.

[severe helm]

👋

[potent echo]

works with headhunter too for unlimited crits

[spare light]

Each staff is so damn fun, this is horrible

[near wyvern]

If I recall it's more like 75% less because the VII will have uncontrollable recoil where as III you can permanently glue to your target if you know how to work against recoil with your mouse.

So VII does like 1k DPS

[potent echo]

infantry autoguns getting a recoil update sounds really good

[near wyvern]

I am more exited about the ammo upgrade

[potent echo]

both really, IAGs alr work really well with hipfire

[ebon jolt]

I think the recoil pattern update will make using something like punishing salvo and sustained fire more viable on the M1 infantry auto gun. Will look forward to trying that out.

Still sad it’s so much less effective this patch due to enemy health buffs. Used to be my fav gun psyker gun.

[potent echo]

currently agrippina IAG just jumps up like so much after one shot

[fierce crest]

yeah the iags seem kinda bad ads

hipfire they feel great tho

[potent echo]

i've made one IAG in preparation for the patch, also enjoyed stripped down before its nerfed

[ebon jolt]

You used to be able to one tap shooters to the head with the Mk1 IAG which made it pretty reliable and ammo efficient. Then when something bigger showed up you could go full auto with hip fire.

[potent echo]

cant you still do it though?

[ebon jolt]

Maybe with +25% unarmored or flak. I can’t with 80 damage and +10% weakspot damage.

And crafting in this game sucks so I can’t change my gun now because I have the perk locked in.

[potent echo]

which IAG

agrippina?

[ebon jolt]

Yeah.

[potent echo]

i remember i can do it in the meatgrinder, at close enough range

oh but that was zealot

with the 20% extra damage

zealot op?

[ebon jolt]

Maybe it was the range. But if you’re shooting a shooter how often are you shooting it from 8m vs something farther out?

[potent echo]

well my IAG was my stripped down option so usually from up close

but i usually just switched back to melee

other than that i just sprayed the IAG into masses of elites and hope i kill something

[plucky flax]

I think the graia might be better.

Nearly same damage but with quite a lot more ammo.

[potent echo]

they buffing columbus damage by a teeny bit in the patch14 notes

also buffing the bash damage because 🤷

[fresh reef]

man I love duo runs

[tropic lagoon]

I just want my smite empowered psionics buff 😦

[fresh reef]

LET'S FUCKING GO

[ebon jolt]

Sprint efficiency OP.

[near gale]

Ugh... I gotta choose one of these perks to keep, which one? This is for the mk 4 dueling sword

Personally I might choose sprint efficiency to keep :/

[fresh reef]

8% groaners > 25% maniac

you already oneshot chaff with heavies, so sprint efficiency is unironically better here

[wide galleon]

sick damage

[near gale]

wow... I can change perks and blessings in the meat grinder with the hub hotkeys menu lol

[ornate hamlet]

How do you get stats?

[fresh reef]

we also had another Zealot, with equally bad contributions

both level 32, and they were dead the majority of the match lol

(even worse is the psyker was running assail/void and was still this shit)

[fresh reef]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/22?tab=files

[ornate hamlet]

More mods that add shit the game should already have.

(Thanks btw 🙏).

[fresh reef]

eh, scoreboard really shouldn't be in the game at base tbh

[ornate hamlet]

It should at least be an option. Like it won’t show up at the end but you can tab or something.

[near gale]

Charging brain rupture faster from both empowered psionics and my career skill feels good

overpowering souls is also really nice for brain rupture

[hearty laurel]

what does Warp Rider do? the description kind of confuses me.

"Up to 20% Damage from all sources, based on your current Peril."

[near gale]

Is warp flurry not proccing for the purgatus staff?

[lunar hollow]

it's 10% damage just for taking warp rider

and the other 10% scales linearly with your peril up to 100%

[spice veldt]

makes your attacks deal more damage

[hearty laurel]

oh alright.

[spice veldt]

fortunately, this is just a case of a really bad description, not bad game design

[hearty laurel]

yeah. i was wondering if it meant damage buff or reduction. thanks.

[near gale]

I am not getting the warp flurry icon for my purgatus staff, but, I am getting it for other staffs

[ornate hamlet]

would that be more damage at higher peril % then?

[spice veldt]

warp flurry works for me on purg

the description also leaves out the fact that the range is from 10% to 20%, not 0% to 20%

[near gale]

Oh it might be the warp nexus icon I am seeing

[ornate hamlet]

I'm currently trying to do the 100 elites at 4 warp charges/max and it is HURTING me.

[mint stone]

Daily thank you from Ogryn players to all shield psykers

[ornate hamlet]

Ogryn players are such a carry.

[mint stone]

Gunners hurt

Sah

[ornate hamlet]

Had a 2 ogryn game and did 2 hosts no stress.

(On damnation),

[mint stone]

We have like roughly 75% total damage reduction

[near gale]

Is charge rate extremely important for voidstrike staffs? It looks like it still only governs a 0.3 second time

[mint stone]

Something like that

[ornate hamlet]

not as important as for flame staff

[near gale]

Can I work with this?

[ornate hamlet]

void staff charge is good for elite sniping / AOF

[near gale]

Otherwise I got this

[ornate hamlet]

I'll check mine but probs wont be too bad?

[spice veldt]

charge rate is whatevs
nice to have but I'm not going to kill 5 people for it like i would with trauma

preferably it's 80% tho of ourse optimally speaking

[ornate hamlet]

When you charge you're not in melee so you're probably fine anyways.

[near gale]

Ugh I hate the voidstrike staff so much lol

I am going to hate myself for learning it

[spice veldt]

yeah it's strong but I do not like the fact that it's a charging + projectile + slow fire rate weapon

so I'm back to using trauma/purg

[near gale]

oh wow the mk 4 dueling sword is so much better

[vagrant frigate]

the melee mode is so annoying

200 elite kills and my team losaes

and blames me

[spice veldt]

yeah it's amazing when you give a weapon real damage values

[vagrant frigate]

like how are you gonna die to a bulwark flamer

and then complain that i only have 200 elite kills

[ornate hamlet]

I love it personally, great for Damnation games with lots of elite/flak targets.

[fickle scaffold]

female psyker seer or loner voice

go

[ornate hamlet]

I have a male psyker seer with a british accent lol.

[near gale]

How does the dueling sword 4 do against monsters?

[lunar hollow]

it does ok

i think it's what, like 50 seconds TTK on a plogryn?

@spice veldt roomba

[near gale]

What are my options for good monster damage, then?

[stone plover]

is scriers gaze any good?

[ornate hamlet]

Do +% damage on maniacs and flak.

[lunar hollow]

there's still nothing particularly great for DPS vs monstrosities, void does ok because on plogryn and cspawn you can chain-stagger them with weakspot hits

ds4 isn't bad

[ornate hamlet]

Since infested are paper anyways.

[lunar hollow]

since it's super easy to kite them with your big dodges and large dodge distance

while stabbin

[spice veldt]

yeah roughly 40-50 seconds for an mk4 against a plogryn

[rain meadow]

i hope they give some of ogryns weapons better blessings

[near gale]

popping heads with brain rupture feels so nice

[rain meadow]

like the grenadier gauntlets blessings are just kinda

eh?

[near gale]

Perilous Combustion feels nice with Brain Rupture

[spice veldt]

main concern is having boss damage that doesn't rely on weakspots imo

[ornate hamlet]

Does the plague ogryn even have a weak spot?

[spice veldt]

yeah, it's head

[ornate hamlet]

I kinda just blast it and it dies.

[rare storm]

yes the head

[woven smelt]

is either of these worth upgrading

[ornate hamlet]

That’s probably why, I don’t bother with headshots.

[spice veldt]

you'll notice the orange (weakspot) hit marker when you whack it's head

[rare storm]

And you can perma stun it with void kek

[obtuse moth]

I’ve been liking my laspistol against Monstrosities fwiw. Not as strong as other classes best options but I can generally comfortably beat vets and can often come in first or second monstrosity damage on monstrosity maelstroms

[fresh reef]

@spice veldt in my quest for a third 17 toughness, the game is actively trolling me now

Emperor's gift btw

[spice veldt]

did you get deceived by the number lol

o

skill issue I think this is

[fresh reef]

yes, definitely

[near gale]

I like that the surge staff can actually kill things now :/

[obtuse moth]

Isn’t the only reliable source the melk store now?

[fresh reef]

for what?

[obtuse moth]

High base blessing curios

[analog agate]

No, you can still get them from the regular shop.

[obtuse moth]

Aren’t they ridiculously rare from brunt compared to before?

[fresh reef]

not particularly

[quasi junco]

So is Purgatus a Nono on Damnation or Auric?

[hybrid glade]

Whats the difference between the various dueling swords? I see one has a different attack pattern. Which do people find themselves using the most?

[fresh reef]

Melk's about on par with Brunt for giving out shit curios

[fresh reef]

Purgatus does fine on Auric

[pale pilot]

so after finally clicking with the mk4 deuling saber i think the base weapon is fine enough for me and i don't have to care about making it a meta one that can oneshot muties

[young meteor]

Purgatus works well

[quasi junco]

Thx all. I saw it wasn’t on the “meta” on that Steam guide

[ornate hamlet]

I use it alot

[fresh reef]

It's not like, the absolute best pick or anything if your only goal is to win, but it's an infinite ammo flamethrower

[ornate hamlet]

This^

[fresh reef]

steam guide
L

[spice veldt]

can't go wrong with it and it still fits certain builds

[pale pilot]

and if you're set up for maximum fire an infinite ammo flamethrower is pretty great

[spare sail]

purgutus with smite is pretty fun

[spice veldt]

I like to run Purg for melee builds by using only the LMB

[pale pilot]

yeah the quick puff is pretty good

[fresh reef]

purg lmb>dueling sword HS is unreasonably flashy for no good reason

[pale pilot]

really good stagger values and basically infinite cleave out to it's range

[quasi junco]

I like the horde deletion it gives. And Brain Rupture for elite killing.

[analog agate]

Atm, all staffs perform well in auric and certain maelstrom. Void is just op atm

[quasi junco]

Yea I saw it’s getting a slight nerf in Patch 14

[spice veldt]

swag

[spare sail]

im finding the trauma stuff really really good but it NEEDS to be rolled almost perfect

[plain lion]

this the proper channel to ask a question about the class?

[near gale]

Is there even a reason to use Warp Siphon over Empowered Psionics with brain rupture? I feel like there isn't, unless you are specifically focusing on more staff attacks

[fresh reef]

love this little guy

[near gale]

that faster free brain rupture is pog

[near wyvern]

Just because something isn't meta (most effective tactic available) it doesn't mean it can't be effective tactic.

[fresh reef]

I don't use keystones

[summer prairie]

the main reason is that BB isn't what you are using most of the time and empowered buff isn't that significant compared to just kinetic resonance against most targets

[analog agate]

Well, it needs to be rolled well-ish. 75+ charge rate/blast are the two things you want.

[vagrant frigate]

[finite falcon]

do enemies lock on to you if you have the lowest max hp in the party or something? Just wiped on a Chaso Ogryn fight because it was perma aggroed onto me even though I never even hit it at all intentionally so I could try to grab some ammo

[quasi junco]

I never knew meta was an acronym 😆

[spice veldt]

if teammates aren't attacking it, then the aggro will stick onto you for the most part

[near gale]

Okay being able to spam my surge staff way more feels great with warp siphon

[analog agate]

I’d question a psyker who isn’t primarily using staff attacks but BB in my games

[finite falcon]

the other three people were ahead of me where it spawned, it ran straight past them and beelined to me where I was slightly behind everyone, they were all hitting it down to like half HP before I finally died because I couldn't get away from it no matter how much I ran away

[near gale]

I wouldn't primarily use a bb, but, I would use it more against elites

[pale pilot]

yeah trauma feels like hot dogshit until you get like a 360+ one

[plain lion]

coming back to the game after a while, what are the stacking skulls next to the healthbar?

[near wyvern]

BB is too slow to kill anything. The rule of thumb is if you can attack it with anything else, you don't BB.

[spice veldt]

indicates you're in Coherency with teammates

[pale pilot]

what do you do instead of keystones?

[analog agate]

Guess it depends what staff for elites. Besides purg, using staff:melee is better

[spice veldt]

i.e. within a certain distance of your teammates

[near gale]

Empowered kinetic resonance bb is at least at the useable speed

[near wyvern]

Some examples of stoneless builds can be found in Atheneum (check pinned messages)

[plain lion]

and what does that do?

[spice veldt]

the baseline effect that coherency gives is a flat toughness Regen bonus

[finite falcon]

also what does a psyker even do if you are getting focused by a Plague Ogryn? Just spam block and hope for the best?

[analog agate]

I feel you are gimping yourself by not getting more dmg in all other scenarios then without warp siphon

[spice veldt]

you share the effects of your Aura to teammates in Coherency as well

and you get their Aura as well

and there are some other coherency-related talents

[near wyvern]

Yes but you only get too few of those. Mainly BB is lacking from fucked up break points but they are going to change it on next patch so just sit and wait at this point.

[near gale]

True, I mostly feel like empowered psionics is more for assail...

[plain lion]

ah thank you so much

[near wyvern]

You dodge the swings while meleeing the head

Same as any other class except our Duelling Sword and Deimos do very nicely for that scenario

[pale pilot]

is that up to date with the current patch?

[analog agate]

And probably (maybe) smite. But I don’t use it atm cause I use smite with surge and surge pairs really well with warp siphon

[near wyvern]

Yup, released today

[finite falcon]

kind of tough when there are also mutants/dogs flying at you too but I guess in an ideal situation

[pale pilot]

oh. of course it is. you're the bloke what wrote it

[near gale]

Does this pair pretty well with a warp nexus surge staff?

[analog agate]

Pygex has been scarred from bad teams taking grim

[near gale]

I bet it would pair really well with a voidstrike with the talent that gives free crits on hitting 5 weakspots or w/e

[near wyvern]

Because Gunner resistance only reduces the damage from:
Dreg Gunners
Scan Gunners
Reapers

NOT shotgunners.

We ain't Ogryns, gunners are very easily avoided. Snipers are the ones you should be scared about.

[near gale]

I think they did a good job on making elite gunners more of a danger

gunner resist doesn't affect basic gunner damage, sadly

[near wyvern]

You rarely encounter rooms of gunners, regular ranged mobs do not count. And even then you can just sprint slide and dodge to avoid their fire well.

[spice veldt]

I wouldn't take gunner res if running Assail in particular

[analog agate]

I take 5hp/5t/30tough regen. For me at least

[spice veldt]

true, depends on whether you stack toughness or not

not much point in me taking gunner res when I have 200 tough

empathic evasion and assail staggering gunners

what

[near gale]

I am barely short of 1 shotting a mutie with the 25% maniac damage and 6 warp charges... 😦

[vagrant hollow]

hey guys did fatshark changed how Transfer peril blessing works on Trauma or is it still shit?

[spice veldt]

still the same, sadly

[analog agate]

With which weapon?

[vagrant hollow]

Sadge

[near wyvern]

Tactical axe

[pale pilot]

so what's the gimmick with tac axes?

[near gale]

Oh wait, nevermind. I didn't have the +10% elite and specialist damage aura

it was the mk 4 dueling sword with +25% maniac

[pale pilot]

like i use them sometimes but i don't get them yet

[royal granite]

just had a game with a fuckin WEIRD veteran, they spent the entire game running ahead of the rest of the group, did a really good job just surviving on their own, got dogged once and that was it

[spice veldt]

none basically besides having being a single-target crit chance proccing weapon which is like eh

TAxes kind of got left behind

[analog agate]

I don’t know about you guys but I exclusively run the atrox mkiv

[royal granite]

on damnation, i should say

[obtuse moth]

is dclaw any good?

[royal granite]

it's fine

[analog agate]

Apparently the iv is good for horde clear? I haven’t tried it

[near gale]

I like that even with t1 uncanny strike I can 3 shot maulers with all 5 stacks

[pale pilot]

yeah the iv devilclaw has almost horizontal sweeps for lights, and it's heavy chain is the vertical helmsplitter chop then a real good damage horizontal swipe

[royal granite]

that's a lot of setup to kill a single mauler at an okay speed

[near gale]

Don't need the 6 warp charges to 3 shot a mauler lol

[pale pilot]

which makes it good for hordes and also just real good at single target deeps with heavies

and the heavies come out fast

also you can chain light1 into heavy 2 for fast and good anti-horde horizontals

[near gale]

Well at least the push attack on the mk 4 dueling sword can proc rampage... on poxwalkers...

[slate oasis]

It’s so weird when people give up at the slightest bad thing happening. I was playing a vent purge sniper gauntlet the other day and we were all doing fine but one guy ran ahead, got sniped once and just instantly left the game like ???

[royal granite]

yeah that is weird, but this vet didn't go down once

i wonder if they were cheating somehow

or maybe damnation is just that easy now

[near gale]

Some people are not horrible at vet lol

I know, a heretical statement

[royal granite]

don't get me wrong, they were a bad player

not surviving doesn't help the team

uh

brain moment

let me try that sentence again

running ahead and not dying doesn't help the rest of the team stay alive

it was effectively a 3 person run, with the vet only helping out when the map design forced them to

[slate oasis]

I assume people who run ahead like that are trying to flex on everyone else

[royal granite]

i need to stick to auric where that sort of habit gets beaten out of you

[slate oasis]

Otherwise idk why they would do it

[winged phoenix]

There is that strange Zealot talent that sort of 'incentivizes' being out of coherency

Or atleast removes its downside. Which I found very odd

[royal granite]

anyway the reason i suspect they were cheating is because even though their health looked either full or mostly full throughout the entire mission, the scoreboard mod tells me they didn't have least damage taken

[royal granite]

the selfish aura? the non-aura? yeah i thought that was odd too

[winged phoenix]

Yeah indeed

Considering it was drilled into us that Coherency is the new Temp Health mechanic. Its very odd to make an exception to that rule

[near gale]

Man the purgatus is so bad against trappers...

[spice veldt]

rip bozo

[lusty meadow]

im looking for a clip som1 made to showcase the dueling sword fighting a horde of crushers, any1 got it?

[spice veldt]

prob one from tinyangrycrab

[spice veldt]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1yMHLPVTGKuVoq/d1337Qb7VBFa?invite=cr-MSxQODYsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

take perilous combustion if you haven't, btw

easily one of the most broken talents

[near gale]

Do you want +maniac damage on the trauma staff, for the 6 warp charge 1 shot on trappers? XD

[slate oasis]

That’s when you bust out your melee weapon

[lusty meadow]

this is exactly the vid im looking for, thank you.

[near gale]

wait... sometimes I 1 shot trappers, sometimes I don't with 6 warp charges(non-crit) :/

[royal granite]

ok i'm looking at the scoreboard log, they had the second least damage taken but the most health stations used, that explains why they were always at full or almost full health lol

[rare storm]

What was mentioned at the end of the video?

[near gale]

Does the trauma staff do random damage amounts in the aoe...?

[rare storm]

is uncanny strike being showcased

[near gale]

Not counting the inner and outter aoes

[full bane]

[spice veldt]

nuh

nuh uh

keep your eyes away

it's balanced

[royal granite]

oh lmao what a dickhead

completely selfish playstyle

[full bane]

I need to give dueling sword a try

[spice veldt]

yeah it's fairly nutty

the mk4 in particular has noticeably better heavies than the other two duelling swords for some reason

[full bane]

Post the sword and the build please

[spice veldt]

though the other two are getting their due diligence in the next patch it seems

probably uncanny strike + your pick between Riposte/Shred/Precognition if going for single-target
Rampage works as the 2nd blessing as well since it's bugged to give ~2x damage

[analog agate]

Flak/unarmored and main perk is crit chance. I assume you mean for blaze. For trapper one burst, they fall, you poke

[full bane]

[full bane]

Rampage is bugged?

[spice veldt]

these are the perks i've figured out; others like +elite might work but these are the ones that I would use For perks, you can pick among +Carapace/+Crit Chance/+Maniac/+Unyielding. For the below results, assume that you have Warp Rider taken (which gives +10% damage at 0% peril).

• +Carapace ensures a deterministic two-shot (both weakspots) on Maulers with max Uncanny Strike stacks. If you have a nearly perfect 80/80/80 dmg/finesse/pen Duelling Sword (or you have a little bit of peril for Warp Rider), then a weakspot & critical weakspot will two-shot a Crusher with max Uncanny Strike stacks.
• +Crit Chance helps with crits for some one-shot breakpoints and the aforementioned Crusher two-shot. It is admittedly a small bonus, but it is generally applying. For gambling addicts.
• +Maniac helps with reaching a Mutant one-shot with at least 2 Uncanny Strike stacks (or with a crit).
• +Unyielding is for boss DPS and the like.

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/0xpve1

[royal granite]

apropos of nothing, i've played 3 games with the revolver now and i'm pretty shocked with how okay it feels to use

[spice veldt]

observe this ✨intended✨ behavior

[full bane]

Doesn’t rampage give power instead of just damage now?

[spice veldt]

revolver is nice, and even nicer is the buff for it next patch

GOD BLESS AMERICA YEEHAAAAAAAAAAW

yeah it gives power...

...and the damage that it used to give on top of that

so +36% power and +50% damage

it's quite humorous isn't it that something like this happened

[full bane]

Oh

Oh i see

[spice veldt]

get dat moneeeey

[full bane]

That explains some things

[royal granite]

oh i hadn't seen the revolver changes

that's a lot of additional finesse

on top of a damage boost

[full bane]

@spice veldt So what’s the build you use?

[full bane]

Laspistol is getting a damage boost, something like 20 damage added to it which is actually a pretty moderate buff for a weapon like the Laspistol

[spice veldt]

i run trauma/purg + assail + mk4 duelling sword with thishttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1165768098230571148/image.png?ex=65480d25&is=65359825&hm=4019020de3a3527e908e777b5ace35057c28a732130eaec9070f64bce70ac702&

[polar jasper]

gg

[spice veldt]

i don't have enough points to go into warp siphon, and I didn't feel like spamming assail, so I decided to go into Disrupt Destiny

[royal granite]

tfw you get pounced by the hounds of tindalos

[full bane]

Assail is yucky

[formal stump]

Does the non-stabby dueling sword kinda sucks or am I just wrong? The stabby one seems to be turning armored and unarmored targets into ribbots, but heavies on the slashy ones barely do anything against maulers, crushers etc.

[spice veldt]

:pensive: shame that the best way to use it is to spam it

[naive imp]

does left click of smite stop mutants/dogs?

the channeling doesn't though, right?

[near gale]

It it just me or does the voidstrike sometimes have trouble hitting weakspots, for some enemies at least?

I couldn't hit the mauler's head for the life of me in the meatgrinder :/

[spice veldt]

i do like to steamroll matches so I just use it, or I withhold from using it and just use assail as my "don't lose" backup weapon

[full bane]

They should add an equivalent to the Coruscation staff, I’d use that so much, mainly for the shotgun primary fire

[spice veldt]

purg LMB + trauma RMB gimme

[quasi pier]

Aim for the stars and even if you miss you'll land on the moon

[fresh reef]

I finally found a use for Mind in Motion

if you take increased Solidity with Scrier's, you can out-quell the peril generated long enough to get to 30s 100% of the time

[full bane]

Also shield is very funny for shutting down dogs and muties, I just love watching them bump into it

[near gale]

I hate having to take mind in motion with assail to be able to get kinetic presence or seer's presence for venting shriek...

[full bane]

I’m very excited

[royal granite]

both do

right click seems to stun faster and spread to more targets

[naive imp]

seeing shit like this in psyker chat kills me. they need to bump ammo lol

[royal granite]

left click as far as i can tell has more range

[naive imp]

ty

[full bane]

I use it on vet

So ammo is not an issue

[spice veldt]

slightly increased fire rate

i hope you all have the fullauto mod

[full bane]

You bet I do

[digital narwhal]

Me too

[spice veldt]

hell yeah

[royal granite]

haven't brought a laspistol to a mission since beta

[digital narwhal]

Laspistol will hopefully be as accurate on controller as it is on M&K, since it handles a bit wonky compared to M&K, even for a single shot weapon

[frank moat]

light an incense for me

[full bane]

I asked TheOneTrueSiri about what it’s damage will look like post patch and he said it’s getting around 20 damage added to it so at 80% damage it’ll be dealing 123 damage per shot which is actually huge for a weapon like Laspistol

[spice veldt]

there's been some mismatch with where the shot goes and where the ironsight/holos are with ranged weapons in general, and I think it's getting fixed next patch?

[full bane]

I play on controller and I can say that Laspistol feels really damn good

[spice veldt]

hopefully the next one, at least

[royal granite]

did he say damage or power?

[digital narwhal]

20% damage buff is pretty huge

[full bane]

I asked specifically about the damage

[digital narwhal]

On Crit Psyker, Laspistol might go even harder than it does now

I’m excited

[covert ermine]

i am already seeing zealots with revolvers running around shooting everything like its some sort of a sniper rifle now on psykers too?

[hearty dagger]

Gentlemen. I just got untouchable on combat knive psyker.

Somehow i was outperforming the assail psyker

[full bane]

It’s going to go especially hard with my Commissar build on vet

Even more so with the buffs to VoC

[frank moat]

Revolver is great fun, though it’s tough having to give up a staff

[royal granite]

i wonder if they'll add a bolt pistol

i've been running smite with my revolver, feels like i'm just running a staff and a gun tbh

[full bane]

I’ve theory crafted this before and this is what I thought of

[obtuse moth]

both left and right stop mutants but you have to channel it until you're almost nose to nose

[royal granite]

i'd think the role of a bolt pistol would be as a quickdraw bolter, sacrificing mag size for draw speed

[full bane]

And reload speed as well I’d imagine

[digital narwhal]

Most Assail Psykers are brain dead, so

Any decent play with a Chainsword will outperform them

[royal granite]

trouble is the revolver already acts like a bolt pistol

[hearty dagger]

Bro tried to jump from a ledge, went hanging, got rescued, proceeded to do it again

[royal granite]

like lore-wise a bolt pistol is just an objective upgrade from a stub revolver

[full bane]

Exactly which is the reason why my theory craft is the way it is

[hearty dagger]

Now i enjoy assail as well but goddamn some of these people are absolutely hopeless.

[royal granite]

well you'd want a bolt pistol to be more powerful than the revolver right

cause it's a bolt weapon, those things are huge

the bullets i mean

[hearty dagger]

Honestly every psyker i see proves my theory of "Every psyker except me is actual dogshit and i should expect them to perform as such"

[royal granite]

"bolts"

really just rocket propelled grenades

[spice veldt]

bolt pistols will be op because psykers can actually use them 🥹

[royal granite]

psyker wrists too limp

[spice veldt]

NOOOOOOOOOOO

[full bane]

Yes specifically a .75 caliber round or a .998

[hearty dagger]

Warp-Stabilized Aim

[hollow stirrup]

OI SPARK 'EADS

I hope yall are having a fantastic day or else i'ma give you a hug

[hearty dagger]

yippeee big man

[full bane]

Would probably be exclusive to vet

[hollow stirrup]

An Ogryn™️ hug at that

[spice veldt]

die

[digital narwhal]

I hope Revvy gets an ammo buff simply for the sanity of the team; Zealots that miss all their shots and hoover up ammo won’t be quite as detrimental.

[royal granite]

i could see it on zealot

[frank moat]

Revolver feels like a better sniper than a holdout weapon, maybe bolt pistol should cater to more close range carapace

Though would Psyker even be allowed one

[royal granite]

as for exclusive pistols, i want the plasma pistol

unique to the tech priest

[full bane]

Yeah fair both vet and zealot could use it

[royal granite]

fight me

[spice veldt]

maybe boltpistol is more lenient on bodyshots

[digital narwhal]

We should get some of the Psyker firearms that are fuelled with Warp Energy

[hearty dagger]

Nah, let plasma pistol be universal.

[digital narwhal]

You know the ones, ye?

[hearty dagger]

Give the tech-priest a gamma rifle.

[digital narwhal]

Infinite ammo, like Staves, but functioning more like a typical firearm

[hearty dagger]

Gimme that skitarii weaponry boah

[full bane]

Melta-Gun will likely be exclusive to zealot

[frank moat]

I mean I still want a galvanic rifle

[royal granite]

i want a galvanic so bad

they look so nice

[full bane]

Nah give me a Laslock

[royal granite]

vostroyan roleplayer

[hearty dagger]

Ngl i can imagine the tech-priest having a sort of Machine Spirit type ability where you either make your team's guns shoot harder or make yours shoot harder

[full bane]

A single shot long range damage weapon that does kickback levels of damage

[royal granite]

honestly it's fucking wild that we even got the variety in lasguns that we have

[hearty dagger]

I can also imagine said tech-priest beating the shit out of a mauler with a censer.

[frank moat]

I was thinking you’d probably have a servo-arm pull out a pistol and start blasting while you’re busy in melee/fixing a data-interrogator

[royal granite]

enginseer axe

please

[hearty dagger]

@frank moat I can imagine that being a blitz, ala zealot knife

[frank moat]

Oh sorry yea, what I meant

[hearty dagger]

Just have a tentacle quickdraw a motherfucker with a laspistol

[frank moat]

I can’t wait until the monkey paw curls and we finally get AdMech representation in the form of a 2900 Aquila bundle for each class

[royal granite]

a mechadendrite

it's called a mechadendrite

[hearty dagger]

@royal granite I forgot and intentionally messed it up so i would be reminded what it is so that i would not have to google it.

The Omnissiah does provide it would seem

Honestly i hope the personalities are like Mechanicus so we can have "Error: Damn Not Found" as a voice line

[full bane]

“I do not recall asking for your input veteran”

Stuff like that

[hearty dagger]

Nah i mean Scaevola

Straight up computer speak

[uncut junco]

More maps before mechanicus class pls

No fun allowed

[hearty dagger]

nu

Bruh, imagine a crank-gun type thing that's just a volley gun

But instead of cranking it up your veteran/techpriest with a comically large backpack just grabs the power cell and holds a lighter beneath it to charge it up

Or even funnier, candle

[uncut junco]

You charged your power cell in a campfire when the imperial primer specifically asked you not to?

[royal granite]

this meme is beyond me

the assail one i mean, not the campfire one

[spice veldt]

carapace? assail https://streamable.com/zjpqc5

[royal granite]

i know about the charging of las cells in campfires

if you so much as sneeze in a way that slightly sounds like the word "assail", arco will post that video

[fresh reef]

I forget sometimes that your graphics are legit runescape tier

[spice veldt]

i fucking LOVE that clip

it's like the perfect refutal to the "assail does no damage against armour"

[royal granite]

tbf it doesn't unless you set it up just right

[spice veldt]

all you need to do is just quickswap

have good keybinds and the rest sorts itself out

[royal granite]

to a specific weapon with a specific blessing that requires a bit of setup

[hearty dagger]

The Infantryman's Uplifting Primer can kiss my karking arse

[spice veldt]

a specific weapon that is currently very meta right now

and with a specific blessing that is very meta right now

[hearty dagger]

I don't care if it tells me not to put the power cell in a campfire, THE OMNISSIAH WILLS IT

[royal granite]

the omnissiah explicitly does not will it

[hearty dagger]

No, the omnissiah explicitly does will it.

[echo turtle]

I would pay it

[spice veldt]

at least on NA west, most psykers I've seen are running the mk4

[hearty dagger]

The rite of recharging specifies that it must be attached to a source of energy.

Heat is energy.

[frank moat]

||So would I||

[fresh reef]

only thing I need now is a good Mk5 that I can slap +stam onto

[hearty dagger]

The campfire makes heat.

it's right there

[royal granite]

life is directed motion

[echo turtle]

There's really no need for stam

[royal granite]

fire is far too chaotic

[fresh reef]

I need it specifically for sprinting

[hearty dagger]

As the Omnissiah also stated, if the machine spirit is not unwilling, there is no need to coerce it.

[fresh reef]

nothing else

lmao

[royal granite]

hey what's that head cosmetic

[hearty dagger]

...Or as the fleshbags say, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Bleh

[echo turtle]

If you really wanna fly, join the dagger gang

[hearty dagger]

Psyker penance one with that specific chestpiece i think

From the psyker page with Vasti Hammerhand

Not as in Vasti's shit just on the same rotation

[fresh reef]

Mk5 has the same sprint modifier range if I'm not mistaken

[echo turtle]

So the dagger consumes stam slower

[hearty dagger]

I honestly prefer the knife.

[royal granite]

looking forward to playing gunker with the buffed autoguns

[echo turtle]

And has a secret extra speed boost on a heavy attack

So it's actually faster

[hearty dagger]

While i do like the dueling sabre

[echo turtle]

And has further dodges

[hearty dagger]

The knife is far more of a flex.

[fresh reef]

true, but +15% dodge distance and ludicrous stamina cost reduction

[echo turtle]

Knife is pretty good with flesh tearer and uncanny

Extreme boss damage

[fresh reef]

Mk5 has better dodges

[north cradle]

So if I'm reading these notes right, the Chainsword is losing its cleave on light, but getting better powered lights and push attacks?

[echo turtle]

Noice

[spice veldt]

just its strikedown light is losing cleave (the 1st light)

[north cradle]

Ah nice

[fresh reef]

I do want to give dagger a try though

bleed is fun

[echo turtle]

Yeah it's solid

[royal granite]

it seems like they're doing a good job giving every weapon a defined use

[echo turtle]

Uncanny / a bleed blessing

[royal granite]

so much shit felt placeholder at release

[spice veldt]

duelling swords finally getting their time to shine

[north cradle]

Recon Lasguns are still crapshoots though

[echo turtle]

I find the knife feels super fast and it's just good at keeping you alive

[spice veldt]

after taking such an L for so long

[royal granite]

i still think it's weird that duelling swords are psyker exclusive

[spice veldt]

infantry autoguns as well

[echo turtle]

Also the boss damage from bleed is really really good

Dueling sword is really good too, I just got kind of bored with it

[north cradle]

It's like that Top Gear meme

[royal granite]

they're good on a very specific vet build, with the shred nodes and the one that makes you not spend las ammo on crit

[hearty dagger]

Veterans stole the power sword we were meant to get so i broke into their locker build and zoinked the sabers :DDDD

[fresh reef]

knife :)

[royal granite]

it's extremely ammo efficient, and the shred nodes actually inflict fragile or whatever that status was called, so the whole team benefits

[echo turtle]

Uncanny is better than mercy kill now

Mercy used to be where it was at, but uncanny is really good

[royal granite]

i got an absurdly good uncanny knife from the empra today

which is a shame because i absolutely don't respect knife users

[near gale]

I somehow did the most damage as a surge staff psyker in the heresy run I did for scripts... :/

[royal granite]

odd

[hearty dagger]

Surge got reworked apparently

[hearty dagger]

Now it just does big fucking burst damage

Instead of god tier AoE

[near gale]

I like what it does now

[royal granite]

surge is our single target weapon now

i think it's a fine idea

[still hearth]

Except that the AoE weapons still do more damage

[north cradle]

Me

[royal granite]

i should try to roll a good surge and see how it treats me

[still hearth]

And is AoE

[hearty dagger]

On one hand, i do want to give the surge a try now that it's a single target and my beloved Voidstrike is currently overbuffed

On the other hand, my purgatus staff build

[near gale]

They always have xD

[still hearth]

There was no single target staff before

[royal granite]

illisi :/

[near gale]

I mean in vt2

[still hearth]

I mean technically Surge isn't single target rn

Right right

Yeah idk

Surge needs another rework

[north cradle]

Yeah I had to say farewell to my overpowered weedwhacker and return to Deimos

[still hearth]

Voidstrike needs to have 0 cleave

[royal granite]

HEY NOW

[still hearth]

Trauma needs its knockdown AoE to be removed

[royal granite]

i like the voidstrike cleave

[hearty dagger]

YOU'RE AN ALLSTAR

[north cradle]

You're an all-star

Dammit

[hearty dagger]

BROTHEERRRRR

[still hearth]

I don't care what you like okay

[royal granite]

you're all disgusting

[still hearth]

The staves need some fucking identity

[royal granite]

<3

[still hearth]

Rn they're just "blrgh damage and stagger and AoE and idk"

[hearty dagger]

The staves do have some fucking identity

[still hearth]

Yeah

Two are good

The other two aren't good

GG

[royal granite]

they're all good, what are you talking about

[hearty dagger]

The bad one better not be purgatus

[still hearth]

It is

But its fine

[hearty dagger]

Or i'm coming over to your house in a latex speedo.

[acoustic spade]

every single Purgatus staff I upgrade to Orange comes up with Terrifying Barage

[hearty dagger]

I'm coming over to your house in a latex speedo.

[still hearth]

Listen I use Purgatus all the time

[acoustic spade]

I now have 3x orange Purgatus staves with Terrifying Barrage

[still hearth]

But its definitely weak compared to one-shot everything in 2.3m radius

[hearty dagger]

PURGATUS IS THE BEST RANGED WEAPON IN THE GAME AND I WILL NOT HEAR ANYTHING ELSE.

[still hearth]

And lmao railgun for 1.4k damage or 2.8k on crits

[royal granite]

being weak compared to meta doesn't mean that something is bad

[hearty dagger]

It used to be Voidstrike my beloved but it got overbuffed ;-;

[north cradle]

Savage Sweep and Bloodletter are the typical chainsword blessings, right?

[acoustic spade]

Just look at this one again...

Well hey, atleast both blessings are IV, right? 🙃

[hearty dagger]

Questionne, wouldn't Executor technically be better than Uncanny or am i just underestimating Rending?

[acoustic spade]

underestimatin rending

[north cradle]

Terrifying Barrage seems redundant since mob enemies usually get scared by Purgatus flames already

[hearty dagger]

Is it rending on the weapon or rending on the enemy that gets applied?

[pale pilot]

yeah rending is hoss.

[royal granite]

warp nexus isn't bad on purge

[pale pilot]

some things apply rending on you and some apply rending on the enemy, iirc

[royal granite]

brittleness, i think

[acoustic spade]

I KNOW

[north cradle]

Lemme show you mine

[pale pilot]

is that what brittleness is? rending on the enemy?

[north cradle]

Brittleness I think is group-wide rending

[royal granite]

yeah, i think it caps off at 60% though

[spice veldt]

yeah, it's an enemy debuff that gives rending% to incoming attacks

[royal granite]

something like that

[north cradle]

Rending is for your individual weapon...?

[royal granite]

yes

[spice veldt]

most sources of brittleness cap at 8 stacks (+5% per stack, 40% total)

vet's talents being an exception

[royal granite]

oh 40%, hm.

well it's still fantastic on bosses

[pale pilot]

i've seen brittleness go up to 16 through stuff like ogryn brittleness stacks on stagger weapon blessings

[hearty dagger]

my current 2 balling staffs

[fresh reef]

Uncanny may be better, but I'd be lying if I said this wasn't more satisfying to me (no maniac bonus btw)

[north cradle]

Oof that Voidstrike with the new guaranteed crit on headshot?

[royal granite]

fatshark really needs to hire someone who speaks english so we can get accurate descriptions