psyker-class

[brazen warren]

I agree that DS is excellent at carapace and single target, it just does not fit my build/preference

and VS, surge, and BB all can deal with carapace at range

[unique mist]

BB's 0.75 carapace modifier

"Effective against carapace and flak" my ass

[naive imp]

You can run surge staff or assail for hordes. Then dueling for carapace

[slate oasis]

it should pierce armor. you're exploding their brain why would armor matter

[unique mist]

or voidstrike for both

[brazen warren]

surge, smite ds?

VS smite ds

[unique mist]

vs is good at range

ds is great at getting mutants

and for dealing with carapace in your face

[austere steeple]

swear idk why i even ping the demi god

it just makes mfs run straight to him

smh

[naive imp]

Surge does way more damage than smite and can lock targets

Surge with flurry is super fast. Feel like it’s faster than void, maybe I’m wrong and it’s placebo.

[brazen warren]

void overpenetrates and deals a significant amount of suppression

never found surge to be good at hordes personally though

3-4 targets per charge attack

thats with the smite chain increase too

from what I could see anyways

[viscid matrix]

again, that is not surge staffs job, its a single target weapon with minor damage to a secondary target, sometimes it chains(might be a bug) to extra, but does minimal damage

[brazen warren]

yep, my post was in response to onelove above me there

smite is great for control, but not damage

maybe if the mob has a sliver of health it will matter but locking down and entire engagement indefinitely is really really strong

[wispy pike]

I love smite, stunlocking everything is a riot

[brazen warren]

skateboarding towards shooter packs with smite is funny and effective

[viscid matrix]

Surge staff has under 1s charge time, void has almost 2 seconds

[naive imp]

That makes a lot of sense. Lol

[naive imp]

Wouldn’t flurry and surge be best?

[crude cape]

sometimes you just have to carry the new players

still died to getting blasted off the map once tho lol

[austere steeple]

do you need a mod for the leaderboard?

[crude cape]

ya

whole team did well but was playing with some friends 1 on xbox who were newish learning damnation

was playing trauma + venting shriek + BB

with middle keystone

[naive imp]

I think empowered psionics needs to affect like 3 brain bursts

[potent echo]

Ouch with the grey toggled on

[viscid matrix]

look at all that ammo wasted by Brug

[viscid matrix]

yeh its called scoreboard

[viscid matrix]

i had a choice, change a useless perk or remove blazing spirit, i kept blazing since i cna guarentee crits so easily

[plucky flax]

Dumb ogryn brain.

[ornate hamlet]

if you're a psyker

you're a bitch

[plucky flax]

[ionic sorrel]

Guilty as charged.

[long osprey]

Why does killing an elite with assail do not trigger peril joue combustion?

[ionic sorrel]

Did you trigger a peril quell with a talent?

[jolly cedar]

wtf are curios not shared. thats just kinda dum man

[ionic sorrel]

Maybe one day.

[long osprey]

Just using assail to kill elites and they do not spread soul blaze

Same if I kill with surge staff

[ionic sorrel]

Oh, well that's not good.

[spice veldt]

that's unusual

[humble star]

They lost the technology to share items after Vermintide

[jolly cedar]

:((

we only get shared blessings

even money and crafting materials werent shared on release

[viscid matrix]

we went 6 months with every character having its own wallet

[kindred lake]

just jumped back into psyker for the first time in awhile with a classic vent + bb + voidstrike and had a great game

tf

[humble star]

and by "lost" I mean they made it that way on purpose to farm more play hours from addicts like me

[kindred lake]

my two highest dmg games since the patch are on ogryn and psyker, my two least played classes

idk how to feel

[austere steeple]

i want to make a ogryn

i just got my pyker to 30 like 2 hours ago

[kindred lake]

it was gunlugger with ripper mk5, was a cakewalk

[unique mist]

I wish I had scoreboard mod to check my performance per game but alas am xbox player

[strong gulch]

When I take Perilous Combustion and kill an elite by assail or surge staff, soulblaze triggers.

[kindred lake]

thats too bad its good to check your own builds

[long osprey]

Yeah not me 😦

[strong gulch]

I'd submit a bug.

[austere steeple]

bruh wtf is this xD

[viscid matrix]

tbh dump those middle 3 and get some better nodes further down the tree

[austere steeple]

9%

im weak asf

[unique mist]

By the god emperor

[ionic sorrel]

Do it, they are so much fun.

[viscid matrix]

and yet that thing will still do like 800 damage on a crit headshot

[austere steeple]

ive been solo to long and im about to start talking to myself

i think its time to go to sleep

[wispy pike]

Listen to the voices

[ionic sorrel]

You're just talking with the emperor.

[austere steeple]

facts

[long osprey]

Weird that it doesn’t trigger for me, I removed the node that quell on kill, maybe it’s the one doing the bug

[primal aurora]

healstaff

[austere steeple]

fr im keeping it forever

ooooo is that a good blessing

[strong gulch]

not on void.

Yes on trauma, but they don't share a blessing pool.

[unique mist]

I wouldn't say its good on trauma

[strong gulch]

Fire trauma is a thing, but fire void doesn't work that well.

[austere steeple]

awww man

[strong gulch]

@spice veldt @plucky flax

[long osprey]

Ok so I removed the quell on kill node and it trigger soulblaze now

Really weird

[plucky flax]

[spice veldt]

yeah blazing spirit is nice

[unique mist]

Hey I used it on Trauma with Nexus and noticed it did Exactly Fucking Nothing™️

[austere steeple]

aye

[spice veldt]

though it's more or less what else I'm going to take

[plucky flax]

I think it's good on trauma but anyway...

[unique mist]

also trauma is still as bad as I remember

[ionic sorrel]

Gosh, I wish fire void worked better.

[austere steeple]

theres just better options

[spice veldt]

pre-patch 13?

[viscid matrix]

its not bad, it just requires likeing the playstyle

[spice veldt]

i hope you don't say pre-patch 13

[unique mist]

no no I only started playing on xbox

[spice veldt]

oh ok

[plucky flax]

Okay this became a bruh moment.

[unique mist]

so post 13

[austere steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/imma-head-out-ight-imma-head-out-head-out-spongebob-meme-gif-20342316

[unique mist]

I am talking about as bad as it was when I was using a sub 200 stat white version of it while levelling and really not liking it

[austere steeple]

goodnigth yall

[ionic sorrel]

Night

[strong gulch]

It has a specific play style. It's high peril with quell canceling to blast the M2 quickly but also quell to keep from exploding; that way you stay at a high enough peril to get crit chance from nexus so it triggered blazing spirit.

It's a lot tbh

[unique mist]

And as always

it is worse than Surge voidstrike

[plucky flax]

Aye and to get the most out of it xbox controller would suck for the flick.

[unique mist]

i use mnk on xbox

because you can do that

[plucky flax]

Fun fact trauma is better than voidstrike for melee only modifier.

[viscid matrix]

your wrong, Trauma is on par with surge, Void is overtuned, Purga is undertuned

[unique mist]

The blessing, not the staff

[viscid matrix]

ohh

[unique mist]

this is the second time today that happened lol

Arc got confused too

[strong gulch]

A high rolled trauma is a different thing than a low rated white trauma.

HOWEVER, not everyone likes trauma and that's cool.

[viscid matrix]

i think im gonna get some sleep 😄 im missreading a bunch of stuff

[plucky flax]

You can't compare surge the blessing to blazing spirit, on 2 different staves.

[unique mist]

well what is the role of trauma

[plucky flax]

They do completely different thing. You can compare blazing spirit on trauma to blazing spirit on voidstrike.

It kills everything.

(Not monster)

Anyway it's a hard staff to play and build.
New players should just stick to voidstrike much easier.

[unique mist]

i find voidstrike kills everything quicker and better lol

[strong gulch]

Well yeah, it's overtuned af right now

[leaden pier]

fellas was the max rating just for the stats of a weapon 360 or 380?

[unique mist]

i took the trauma into damnation and found it too hard to get kills

380

[leaden pier]

thanks

[strong gulch]

380

[plucky flax]

Trauma first day of patch
I think other mates were struggling to get kills from me
https://youtu.be/qP0kFOiV6ag

[spice veldt]

overtuned stuff existing resulting in people setting that as their baseline 😔

I don't have any particularly strong opinions for trauma outside of melee maelstrom cuz I just play blitz + melee like I always do lamayo, but its strengths particularly shine in melee mael

[kindred lake]

is the soulblaze worth taking on vent? or should i just go for the 100 - 200 dmg

i do have the other soulblaze talent bc i had heard it is p good

[viscid matrix]

soulblaze does about 300 damage with 6 stacks

and soulblaze is affected by weapon blessings

[kindred lake]

oh i see

ok i will keep it then

[spice veldt]

and +warp damage talents, if you're taking some stuff on the right side

[kindred lake]

not at the moment but good to know

[viscid matrix]

tbh the flat 100-200 damage on vent is hot garbage

[plucky flax]

Free damage from screaming like a lunatic?

Idk seems op

They should combine both talents into 1
Damage and set them on fire from screaming.

[viscid matrix]

the flat damage is affected by armour, so it does a lot less damage than it says

[plucky flax]

[summer prairie]

the armor modifiers are all 1 except void shield, it's probably range based falloff

[viscid matrix]

its also that

go play with it in the psykanium

its just a worse node choice than anything else on the tree

[summer prairie]

It is, but does it do close to 200 to carapace

[viscid matrix]

i dont remember the exact numbers, but pretty sure it was no where near 200

[coarse scroll]

@here guys want to ask, is flurry warp which is blessing that can charge your secondary attack faster work well for purgatus staff which is staff that shoot flame?

[long osprey]

Yes it works well

[summer prairie]

it's fine

[coarse scroll]

so in order for me to turly utilize flurry warp, i need to keep charging secondary attack correct?

[summer prairie]

it's on a timer now, you've a few seconds to do something else before you have to shoot again

[viscid matrix]

just hold secondary down, and click primary when you want to shoot

tap quell between primary clicks

[slate oasis]

Yeah charge, blast fire, charge again, blast fire again, repeat

[viscid matrix]

when you tap quell, you drop 15-20 peril instantly, so you can maintain 80-100 indefininatly

[summer prairie]

with purg you barely have enough time to do a full charge before the flurry stack expires

[coarse scroll]

that mean i can fire my primary attack to stagger the enemy and still got enough time to stack up the warp flurry?

[strong gulch]

Charge secondary back to back, but you don't have to fully charge.

[viscid matrix]

dont fully charge the first few, just tap primary and start the next charge right away

[summer prairie]

if you do a short charge you probably have time for that

there's a flurry stack icon, so you can experiment

[coarse scroll]

ok noted

[strong gulch]

Yeah, there is a moment between charges before flurry stacks disappear so you can quell a bit.

[viscid matrix]

while holding seconday, you will fire off a flame whenever you click primary, so just tap it the first few, to get warp flurry buffs up

also sitting between 80 and 100 peril will give you max effect from any buff that scales with peril

well 85 is the minimum you need for max effect

[jolly cedar]

What should I change for this sword perkwise?

[viscid matrix]

swap elites to carapace/flak/maniac, your choice which

[jolly cedar]

thanks

[late night]

whats optimal way to use lightning

blitz

charge up and cast and hold?

[potent echo]

I like to charge hold, then release

You will push them on their asses

[viscid matrix]

charge secondary and hold, tell your team to focus anything that you lock down

release just before you hit 100

[late night]

does it stop working

like

if you charge

its just gated by peril

?

[viscid matrix]

when you hit 100, it instantly quells to 85%

and stops

[late night]

oh ok

[viscid matrix]

so there is no downside to going all the way to max

[potent echo]

But if you go to max they dont get knocked down

I rather release early

[strong gulch]

LMB smite does a quick stagger. RMB for getting the situation under control that needs longer time. if you need to build more peril, or until people's graphics explode.

[dry geode]

What blessings are best for voidstrike staff?

[solar sand]

damn 100 missions to finish all the psyker penances

[unique mist]

Transfer peril + warp flurry or Surge + warp nexus

the 2nd one is the best combo

by far

[half turtle]

i'm trying scrier's gaze someone give me a hot build tip

[late night]

best horde clear melee = devils claw?

[solar sand]

or force mkV

[dry geode]

Thanks! I just rolled this and wasnt sure what to do with it

[solar sand]

that thats nearly perfect

[dry geode]

yeah

[unique mist]

not optimal base stats but you can roll with it. Run n gun and sprint efficiency are an L imo

[dry geode]

just when i was really getting into my palpatine build too

yeah sprint efficiency is gonna go

[solar sand]

a good voidstrike is just so busted though

you get into it

[dry geode]

oh yeah

[solar sand]

finally got mine set up like yesterday

[dry geode]

assail is nothing in comparison

[solar sand]

nah

[dry geode]

oh baby

[solar sand]

the hoard clear of this is whats underrated

nevermind its insane single target

which ignores armor making for easy 2 shots for all non boss enemies

[unique mist]

wait until you get a roll with Surge and warp nexus

[dry geode]

yeah voidstrike is super strong

[solar sand]

havent found surge yet

[austere steeple]

whats warp resistant on staffs?

[dry geode]

peril buildup modifier

i believe

[austere steeple]

ah so it dosetn matter that much

[dry geode]

basically

[solar sand]

the difference between a 60% roll and an 80% roll is like 20 peril per shot compared to like 18

quell speed varies by like almost 30%, maybe the biggest scaling in a sense

[dry geode]

What perks should voidstrike run?

crit?

[solar sand]

crit chance cara/flak

[dry geode]

I have flak

[unique mist]

if you are going surge/nexus, crit and unyielding

not flak

[dry geode]

i have t3 transfer/t4 flurry

[unique mist]

it will already oneshot flak enemies on weakspot

[dry geode]

well, the other one is sprint efficiency

[unique mist]

for warp/nexus, go crit and...hmm...

carapace

for dealing with maulers and ogryns

[dry geode]

thats the other guys

[unique mist]

oh

[unique mist]

sorry

flak and carapace then

[dry geode]

np! thanks for helping!

[unique mist]

its just not as strong of a dps option as nexus/surge so you'll need to optimise for non boss clear

surge/nexus is such a strong option it can already oneshot ogryns on a surge proc without +carapace so unyielding is the better pick

[dry geode]

i just yolo rolled this bad boy and am trying to make the best of it

that def is my long term goal

[unique mist]

just make sure you are stingy with your melk coins and check him every day for blessings

i spent a lot of plasteel upgrading 365+ voidstrikes to gold to get Surge

[dry geode]

Oh yeah

I spent mine on the block ranged blessing

but i think you can stack them across characters?

[strong gulch]

yes. account wide

[unique mist]

i think I got through 10 staffs to gold and another 8 to blue

[strong gulch]

I've played since beta and never got surge on void. RIP

[dry geode]

What blessings are good for the illsi sword?

Im in grimdark vegas tonight

[solar sand]

rampage riposte probably

this one is kinda fun

back to back crits on charged attacks

[viscid matrix]

thats not a charge attack, thats the special boosted attack

[potent echo]

Slaughterer/any

[viscid matrix]

tbh i use deflector on my Illisi, makes reviving people easier, and its an emergency weapon at most

i never use it as my main weapon

[unique mist]

slaughterer+rampage sounds fun

[coarse scroll]

hi guys, does warp siphons work for telekine shield dome where you can cast 2 sheild consecutively?

[unique mist]

Yes

fixed next patch

[dry geode]

you mean 3?

[viscid matrix]

right now, it gives 100% coodlown reduction when you have 1 warp charge, so you can chain kill specialists/elites and drop a shield between each kill

[dry geode]

ohh

[viscid matrix]

https://streamable.com/ax5vy9

[coarse scroll]

maybe i can go for telekine shield dome build with warp siphons. but i love the telekine shield wall that can stop any charging wolf and mutant attempt

[solar sand]

lame

[viscid matrix]

Dome is really good against Beast of Nurgle, it prevents the vomit from anywhere in dome

[dry geode]

wall can work too but its tougher

[coarse scroll]

which one you think more useful and better when play in damnation? shield wall or shield dome?

[solar sand]

i run dome

the 360 coverage makes all the difference

when you can still be shot in the back the wall isnt nearly as effective

[viscid matrix]

stupid people learn to stand in dome, they dont learn to stand behind walls

[humble star]

completely depends on your team and how good you guys are at positioning too

[coarse scroll]

even when being charged by wolf or mutant?

[dry geode]

I use walls to break mutant grabs

[still hearth]

Dogs and mutants can be one shot easily

[solar sand]

also dodged easily

[viscid matrix]

dome doesnt block those, but you can 2shot/1shot them with the right melee weapon, and also easily dodged

[still hearth]

But I find both shields are niche

[dry geode]

the real answer is to run TWO psykers

[still hearth]

And shriek with soulblaze just offers so much space anyway

[solar sand]

plus the dome gives nice defense, the regen is big, and the 50%dr if the dome dies is nice too

[coarse scroll]

ok, if i go for shield dome build, which passive ability more usuful? the one that give 10% more damage to elite when in coherancy or the one that can reduce the ability cooldown?

[solar sand]

10% damage is pretty huge

but so is 10% cdr

[still hearth]

It's 17.5% cdr

[solar sand]

warp siphon you dont need the cdr

[still hearth]

10% damage only works on elites rn

[solar sand]

like its bugged to be more or?

[still hearth]

So definitely CDR most of the time

Yes

[humble star]

and if that doesn't help you hit any new breakpoints it's honestly whatever

[still hearth]

It doesn't remove the old aura

[humble star]

CDR all the way

[still hearth]

So you get 10% + 7.5%

[solar sand]

oh then yeah with that info

cdr for sure

[coarse scroll]

so extra ooldown is better even with warp siphons??

cooldown*

[still hearth]

Yep

They're additive I'm pretty sure

[solar sand]

crit also kinda nice if your build calls for it

[coarse scroll]

ok then i take seer's presence

[solar sand]

also these two are pretty nice for toughness

[coarse scroll]

mine is more focus on pergatus staff as i love to burn the horde and use brain rupture against tough enemy, does soulblaze will be more benefit for me?? soulblaze can work from pergatus kill or have to be work from brain burst kill?

[solar sand]

you want these 2 for purgatus, rest is kinda whatever

[viscid matrix]

I prefer the bonus damage against elite aura over the 10% cool-down, but I also grab the 5% on elite kill above it

[coarse scroll]

ah those are 2 soulblaze related correct?

[solar sand]

yeah

[still hearth]

Yes

[coarse scroll]

ok noted

[viscid matrix]

Yes, they are great in every build

[solar sand]

the 4 stacks on elite, and the spread on kill

[still hearth]

Wildfire is less OP but it especially helps warp Siphon and can sometimes help kill some enemies at long distances, along with dealing some damage to enemies you didn't blaze

[coarse scroll]

for the pergatus staff, which stats is more important, the damage and burn or the cloud radius? currently i have gold pergatus staff with 71% damage and 67% burn but only has 40% cloud radius

[viscid matrix]

Soulblaze is amazing, it does decent damage, and is affected by weapon blessings and warp damage boosts on talent tree
It’s never a bad pick

[viscid matrix]

Burn and cloud radius, dump the damage

Damage only applies to the hit

It doesn’t matter

[still hearth]

Idk if damage is full dump anymore since they buffed it

[viscid matrix]

It’s alright, but everything else is better

[still hearth]

But I think the difference in damage numbers are still small

Not really

You need like 12 stacks to do more than direct flames

[coarse scroll]

just now i roll another staff that have only 59% burn and 79% cloud radius, thats are way better?

[viscid matrix]

6 stacks does 300ish damage minimum, single blast from hit with staff is not that good in comparison

[still hearth]

You want 76% burn and 80% cloud

[still hearth]

Yeah but direct flame is like 200 dps, soulblaze needs to ramp up and tick over time

[coarse scroll]

this need to continiously rng roll from burnt armory?

[still hearth]

It's very different damages

[still hearth]

Pretty much yeah. Are you level 30?

If not just take whatever you have

[coarse scroll]

now im level 28

[still hearth]

Alright wait to roll until 30

The stats increase way more once you max out

[coarse scroll]

i see. understood. i try to save up more so resources first

[still hearth]

You can use the lower burn one for now it is only a difference on bosses

[viscid matrix]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/force-staff-purgatus/rifthaven-mk-ii-purgatus-force-staff

[coarse scroll]

this is useful. thx

[primal radish]

whats the difference in stamina regen vs psykler and vet? i know vet is worse but is it just the regen rate or delay or both?

[solar sand]

man how do people mess up melee only modifier, shits so easy

[still hearth]

Iirc Psyker has the same regen as Vet but faster delay

1.25s for Vet, 0.5s for Psyker

[solar sand]

hows the special damage when built right? better than chainsword special?

[viscid matrix]

obscurus is worst force sword, you want a Deimos or Illisi instead

[primal aurora]

In my opinion force swords specials are worse than chainsword special, except for Illisi force sword. Illisi special attack cleaves through enemies (like power sword) and don't get stuck in enemies.
Some people like Deimos force sword vs hard enemies, but I don't like it.

[solar sand]

also got this one

but i imagine then end up being worse this

[viscid matrix]

Deimos is 2nd best single target sword we have access too

The H2 does a lot of damage

The combo for Deimos is L1, H2 repeat

[primal aurora]

but isn't it better to use Dueling sword then? Especially IV

[viscid matrix]

The IV is the strongest single target we have access to

I did say deimos is 2nd best

[primal aurora]

My issue with Deimos is L1, H2 not viable vs carapace enemies. Also I have very bad flashbacks to numerous times I got shafted because my sword stuck in enemies for fancy special attack animeation.

[viscid matrix]

It’s viable, just not as good as IV that’s just stab stab

[spark fractal]

we have so many ways to deal with carapace that meleeing them is really not the best idea to begin with

[viscid matrix]

Eh, melee with DS IV is probably the best way to deal with carapace

[spark fractal]

brain burst, voidstrike, surge, trauma, smite (it'll cc them at least)

[viscid matrix]

ds IV can 2shot a crusher with heavy headshots

[spark fractal]

the problem is crushers are usually only problems when they're surrounded by a mixed horde, which you don't particularly want to approach with a dueling sword, void or surge can deal with them safely at range

[solar sand]

hmmm, wonder if i should get this incase disrupt starts working better

[viscid matrix]

If you are running an assail build with revolver and ds iv, then it’s a very good choice

[spark fractal]

why can't you use guns with warp charges, that damage buff lasts a long time

[primal aurora]

IV also allows you to feel like a matador, while striking running mutants.

[solar sand]

i guess i havent really tried

damage wise you could but

the warp damage/kills scaling for toughnes regeneration

[viscid matrix]

Get hand cannon blessing, and it can 3 shot crushers

[primal aurora]

Psyker doesn't really play well with revolvers, though that's depend on preferences and your aim. Voidstrike staff in general outperforms it in almost everything (at least for now).

[viscid matrix]

It’s good, but I would prefer DD instead for that precision and weakspot damage

[solar sand]

ideally i wanted a nice hand cannon for a quick to whip out and 1 shot for the DD stack beyond melee range

[viscid matrix]

Voidstrike is broken overtuned, people should stop comparing everything to something that is obviously broken and not working the way it’s supposed to

[near wyvern]

Don't have the descriptions and explanation in yet but basically the greatest weakness of purge is range packs that sit outside of your reach and crushers.

Assail eats up the ranged units and with RMB having a decent range to deal with snipers all you are left is crushers which you can easily kill with DS4 and Deimos. You don't need the increased shard regen because you do not sit and spam assails.

Flame first around the crushers to kill all the ads while LMB staggering and dodging their attacks. Once everything else is dead, switch to melee and finish it off. That uncanny strike also starts to make those blaze ticks kick in once you start your melee.

BB is currently such an inefficient and a horrible way of dealing with crushers.

[viscid matrix]

12 cleave and ignoring armour with massive damage and guarenteed knockdown is broken

[solar sand]

the cleave is the silly thing to me

insane single and insane hoard clear

[viscid matrix]

It does 1600 base damage on a crit headshot which you can guarantee with True Aim, which makes everything hit with that projectile crit

[humble star]

It's ok, nerf is coming.

Still probably going to be nuts though

[viscid matrix]

The nerf is barely touching it

[primal blade]

i have not tried any of the guns yet cuz the voidstrike has been such a dirty pleasure of mine not for the power reasons just cuz of the audio visual side
honestly if we had a bolt pistol i would probably try guns but am fine with being a migraine only psyker x3

[viscid matrix]

Same with assail, it needed a nerf. Instead it’s getting buffed

[humble star]

elite HP changes and no more crusher oneshots, not huge but also not small

assail changes will absolutely do fuckall

[primal aurora]

I compare it to Voidstrike because Voidstrike is closest psyker weapon in role. Both have penetration, perfect accuracy, great for killing snipers and big single damage. That was the case even before patch 13

[viscid matrix]

Revolver is balanced, it does it’s job really well
It was on par with void before the patch, its still good now, it’s just not broken like void is

[primal aurora]

I guess just don't get psyker with revolver.

[viscid matrix]

Being able to do 3.2k damage with a single crit headshot with no buffs is broken, and void can do more than that

[primal blade]

honestly why do we worry about things being "broken" especially when it comes to powers of the warp

if things can be used to be super powerful.. good now its up to the person to actually use it

i've seen Assail not work for some people

not because it was the fault of assail but jsut the person not mixing with assail

[humble star]

Were they playing on a gaming steering wheel?

[primal blade]

keyboard and mouse xp but now i wanna see someone play with a wheel

[viscid matrix]

Assail used properly is on par with most weapons, i was hoping for the nerf to actually do something, instead it’s secondary does double it’s current damage, and it’s primary can still murder everything

[humble star]

If you can't make assail work then something is wrong with you

[primal aurora]

We do not promote Chaos Undivided ways of playing here.

[viscid matrix]

We do edge our peril to hear what chaos has to say

[primal blade]

i did notice in recent times that it went from
psyker being arguably the most usleess to veterans being the most useless for multiple roles at once
and the same happened with zealot and ogryn but those two kinda managed to co-exist

[primal aurora]

I wonder how devs would balance it. Maybe make it recharge really slow, but generate charges when you kill enemies with other weapons.

[primal blade]

so am sure veteran and psyker will end up co-existing as well

[viscid matrix]

Arguably?? It was the weakest class before the patch, anything psyker could do, everything else could do it better

Now it’s in a place where vet are the weakest, and everyone can do what they do better

[primal blade]

i said arguably because again there are fringe cases that exist that one could argue for
would they be a good argument is another story

[still hearth]

Psyker was definitely on par with Zealot before the patch

Veteran was the biggest outlier

Now it's Vet who's the weakest

[primal aurora]

Zealots are popular now.

[viscid matrix]

Vets had it too good for too long

[still hearth]

Their current state is sad

But yeeah they were super busted

[primal blade]

at least we won't have veterans stealing our BBs anymore :p mostly cuz no one uses BB

[slow raven]

now you can use DD and vets can steal that

although i barely see any vets anymore

[viscid matrix]

Just weakspot kill and ignore the glowing blue targets

[primal aurora]

Now Psykers steal enemies from zealots with Assail (on lower difficulties)

[zinc tartan]

I wanna switch to void/assail. What stats on a void staff am I looking for?

[viscid matrix]

Assail has far too much ammo and ammo regen

[primal blade]

i know 2 vets and one is autistic the other well... is what i would call an enigma

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/911460885757841468.webp?size=48&name=thinkin&quality=lossless

barely know the guy outside of what we do together

[slow raven]

one thing i don't like about DD is how it seems to select the same targets that a vet would prioritize... shooters and elites

so if you play with a counterfire vet youre competing for the same kills

[primal aurora]

what is DD?

[viscid matrix]

Radius is the dump stat

Want both Surge and Warp nexus blessings for best single target damage

Warp flurry and transfer peril for the alt build

[viscid matrix]

Disrupt destiny

Right side keystone

[viscid matrix]

Weakspot kills give stacks helps

[verbal bear]

When can we delete locks with diamantine bro

[primal blade]

ngl they should just go back to the Vermintide way of doing things and letting us reroll until we get what we want

[verbal bear]

[viscid matrix]

That thing is amazing , swap crit perk for unyielding to make killing monstrosities easier

[past brook]

I've played a few damnation games with my psyker now, I haven't had too much of a problem keeping up DD outside of elevator rides
yeah I might lose it sometimes, but since I've got the talent that gives 30s duration and double stacks on weakspot, I'm not too fussed
plus the game seems to prioritize closer targets, so once I close in I get one after the other

[verbal bear]

Ye I keep swapping it for missions

[primal aurora]

I've never played with it. Is it useful?

[primal blade]

i use the middle path

empowered psionics

[viscid matrix]

It’s good, it’s best for anything that can use the precision and weakspot damage bonuses you get

[past brook]

I'm not sure if DD is responsible for the breakpoint, but safe to say I'm power tripping on 2-shotting crushers with a mk4 dueling sword

[primal blade]

Empowered psionics
overpowering souls
psychic leeching
Charged up

is what i have at the end

also got the telekine shield but .. i rarely use it

[viscid matrix]

that is amazing when any monstrocities wont leave you alone

[primal blade]

yea but that has not happened often

its mostly the veteran enigma that gets monstrositied

though it did come in clutch once when i was close enough to him to place it between him and the charging mutie

[primal aurora]

I wonder if Gaze would get any meaningful buffs.

[undone carbon]

do all the force staves share blessings like the force swords?

[past brook]

no

[undone carbon]

tragic

[past brook]

suffer, like all of us lol

[primal blade]

Scrier's Gaze ?
can't you in theory be permanently in Scrier's Gaze and permanently receive

+30% damage and +20% crit
+30% finesse damage (with precognition)
+20% movement speed (warp speed)
-20% peril reduction (reality anchor)
+20% toughness reduction (endurance)

or is there a hard limit to scrier's gaze

[ornate hamlet]

Heller Heller, im new just downloaded, seen some clips and gameplay excited to hop in. what do you guys like about the game?

[undone carbon]

the peril gen scales up over time

[past brook]

the perils increase seems to get higher and higher

[primal blade]

when you kill enemies it slows down

[past brook]

it gets less effective the longer you are

[undone carbon]

personally im a huge fan of violence and slaying heretics so theres that

[primal blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/806542453582200892.webp?size=48&name=Wright_Think&quality=lossless

[ornate hamlet]

hell yea

[primal blade]

how long can a single Scrier's gaze last in that case

[past brook]

like, it might slow down the generation by 5 peril per second, but once you're up to 20 peril per second it doesn't do much lol

just random numbers btw

[viscid matrix]

you reach 14 stacks by the time you hit 100% without quelling or quell on kill

[primal blade]

hm

imma try in the psykhanium

[clear light]

this is quite good, right? What stats should I go for

[viscid matrix]

swap unyelding to carapace, and keep or swap flak to maniac

[still hearth]

Pretty much perfect

[viscid matrix]

or upgrade to better unyeilding

[clear light]

Should I go for crit chance/dmg at all? I hear from some folk that surge is a crit staff

[viscid matrix]

20% crit chance from nexus plus whatever you get on tree is more than enough

crit damage as a perk is a waste, its not as good as you think

[still hearth]

Crit damage and weakspot damage are basically always bad because of how the damage calculation works

[potent echo]

It needs to be at least 50-100% to be worth anything

[clear light]

Gotcha, thanks guys

[rigid rune]

Hey, I'm trying to do the "Malleus Monstronum" penance anyone want to help?

[primal blade]

welp this let me go to 30 stacks and stay in 30 stacks for like 5 seconds

[random obsidian]

Hey Guys Question if your going for the shield ability which is better dome or non-dome?

I use dome a lot but what does the other one do?

[viscid matrix]

tbh running without a keystone usualy isnt worth it

[primal blade]

tbf i just don't have enough points to get the keystone

im 2 levels short of 30

[random obsidian]

Also Just Checking if you are going for the Vent ability is damage better than burn or is burn better?

[viscid matrix]

dome is great for supporting,but the flat shield can cc muties and dogs

[viscid matrix]

tbh i would drop the 3 middle nodes at the start, grab the crit toughness, cause you will be critting often, dump the assail upgrades since those are not too useful, and then go down into DD

also you dont really need the 20% move speed in scriers unless you are a melee build

[random obsidian]

Is it vent or push? Can't remember name but its on the left

[stable silo]

scream like a man

[random obsidian]

dmg or burn on that ability?

[viscid matrix]

Vent

[viscid matrix]

always burn

[primal blade]

i am not doing anything serious with scrier's gaze anyways i just wanted to see how well i can hold it

[stable silo]

burn

edging psyker is best psyker

just care not to explode

[random obsidian]

Really? Burn is better?

[viscid matrix]

the 6stacks of burn is about 300 without any weapon blessings active
the flat damage does less damage the further away enemies are, and also is affected by armour

[glad meadow]

is this bad lol

just look at its mobility stat

[viscid matrix]

nope thats pretty good
inspect it and mouse over the yellow bars to see what they do

[random obsidian]

Nice, On Vent Builds i'll set mine to burn then

[glad meadow]

wouldn't this make my dodge barely move at all?

[primal blade]

mounted autogun with that mobility lel

but everything else being almost 80% is pretty good

[glad meadow]

what about this

should i use that over this?

[viscid matrix]

its not too bad

[viscid matrix]

Illisi if you want horde clear, Deimos if you want single target

[primal blade]

i would use this

but i am a filthy horde clearer

Illisi , assail , voidstrike

[glad meadow]

i already have assail spam with scry

it kill elite pretty good

i never use assail before, so i wonder if the update 14 already online?

is update 14 online?

[viscid matrix]

no

[primal blade]

my mods were active so no

[viscid matrix]

probably coming on thursday

[glad meadow]

dang, so assail horde clear probably gonna be nerfed

[viscid matrix]

kekw its gonna be better than ever

look at the numbers

its a buff

[glad meadow]

i don't like to use the middle capstone though

i like my scry with 100% uptime

[viscid matrix]

assail change is just a strait buff

1 shard for 200 is still killing trash, 2 shards for 400 will kill everything that is unarmoured, 3 shards for 600 willl take care of flak armoured

the secondary can 1shot everything except flak helms and more armoured

pretty sure all those damage numbers are with empowered active

[stable silo]

il empower your active

[summer prairie]

the secondary is slow, we'll see how it feels like.

[viscid matrix]

sure, but its still fast enough that we can stack melee blessings and then swap and shoot , so we can use it with melee blessings active

[summer prairie]

when it's slow enough, it doesn't matter that it does more damage than before when you can just use your voidstrike or whatever instead

[wooden silo]

While i do think assail might be a bit over the top now, i hope they will take there time and make it something that is good but not just the soloution to almost anything except carapace.

[viscid matrix]

https://streamable.com/zjpqc5 can halfhealth a crusher with the right blessings active

[past brook]

that's more a result of whipping out the dueling saber before the assail shard can hit, since it's got rending active and assail shards work like the zealot knives

[wooden silo]

yeah, it is still maybe a bit silly.

[viscid matrix]

new assail secondary is gonna do more than that

[past brook]

doing that with secondary is a bit trickier, the throw anim is somewhat difficult to predict and the shard seems to fly a lot faster

[summer prairie]

that's the kind of gameplay assail should be though, you switch to it quickly, throw it, switch back

[wooden silo]

To be honest, what i see in that video at least shows a bit of skill switching between things and delivering accurate strikes. Could just be that i am pretty shit though Shrug

[past brook]

in that case, just make it work like zealot knives 🤷‍♂️

[plucky flax]

Bruh I need 1 map without any players death and there are 2 sub level 30 guys here.

[south rapids]

What is the difference between MK IV and V dueling swords? I'm no mathematician but 5 > 4

[past brook]

mk4 is double stab heavies, mk5 is double overhead heavies

mk2 has a diagonal heavy + stab heavy

[south rapids]

Thanks!

[still hearth]

I think th eMk4 stab heavies just do like

50% more damage

As well

Yeah the Mk4 heavies just do way more damage overall

[jolly cedar]

What is the best melee weapon to be paired with voidstaff?

dueling sword + voidstaff feels pointless since void staff already kills elites

need some form of horde clear

[still hearth]

You can go Chainsword, Illisi, Antax with BM, devil claw

All those are good horde clear

[jolly cedar]

hmm yeah i think ill go with devil claw

[still hearth]

Make sure to get Rampage and Savage Sweep

And enjoy your double damage claw

[jolly cedar]

yeah i got the other cleave one

the one that grants + 40% cleave on hit

stacks 5 times

[still hearth]

It's less ideal imo but it's fine

[young ridge]

I heard psyker changes are coming (maybe already out?)

[past brook]

not out, but coming

[sturdy trail]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a6df1c6-b940-4591-ae74-c51f91626216/only-good-psyker

[solar sand]

my first 380

[near wyvern]

Now go to Hadron and remember to bring tissue papers.

[stable silo]

is empathetic evasion even worth to run?i see alot of people reppin it

iv been running it but i dont really know how much usage u get i guess spamming assail crits is good i suppose

[near wyvern]

Yup. There is even a talent for weaving on the right side (non-warp kills increase the damage of warp attacks)

[sturdy trail]

Nah

no need for it

[tepid beacon]

is this some sort of warp fuckery

[young ridge]

Any big changes?

[past brook]

depends on what you're interested in
there's 3 whole pages devoted to the patch notes, one for the broad overview and two just dedicated to going in-depth
have a look for yourself
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/provisional-patch-14-notes-part-1/84501

these are, of course, provisional patch notes, so they're bound to change

[young ridge]

Thanks!

[viscid matrix]

😦 shit perks ruined it

ahwell its great reguardless

[empty onyx]

Is it ok to feel like the dome shield is better, but also a lot more boring?

Like, I don't want to run it over the 2 plate shields, but the Toughness Regen would be a good addition to my kit.

[undone carbon]

Think hadron's butchered my boy. what do i even change on this

[empty onyx]

I mean, as long as you swing on head-height, you're golden.

I'd say Crit Damage to Flak or Maniac and Precog to Slaughterer? Or Exorcist if you're already beholden to hit the heads.

[meager cedar]

What are the good duelling sword 4 perks/blessings?

[empty onyx]

I'm running Maniac/Carapace; Riposte/Uncanny. Kills all enemies (Except Reapers) with 1-3 heavy stabs to the head, depending on Uncanny Stacks & Crits.

[rare storm]

@vagrant frigate Yo for your melee build why do you go through to the Disrupt destiny keystone btw
(sorry for the ping kekw)

[crimson estuary]

is this good?

[summer prairie]

yes

[empty onyx]

Bit unfortunate that the dump is on Mobility instead of Cleave, but 80 Finesse & 80 Pen is pretty neat.

[clear light]

is it better if I change run and gun and upgrade warp nexus to IV.

Or would it be more optimal to change out run and gun and then change out one of the perks?

[summer prairie]

changing one of the perks is better

[crimson estuary]

what should i change

[ornate hamlet]

what the hell is wounds

[unique mist]

Wounds are the seperators in your health bar. They basically govern how much semipermanent health you lose every time you get downed as well as how many times you are allowed to get downed before you die outright

[full bane]

What kind of moveset do y’all think 2h force sword will have when it comes out in 20 years? I’d love something similar to the Brett Longsword from VT2

[still hearth]

Give it the Longsword moves

But swap the way the moves work

Like the hammers

[full bane]

Wdym?

[naive imp]

So HOW exactly does surge work? Are you wanting to drag across the screen?

Like sometimes it chains and forks. Sometimes it doesn’t.

I don’t understand why and when it happens.

[thorn cedar]

I also don't understand it anymore

[still hearth]

You hold it towards the target you want to hurt.

It will chain to 1 enemy by default

[thorn cedar]

I've fired it off at targets and turned around to push a burster and it suddenly exploded from my zap

[still hearth]

Dealing like 20% damage to that target.

And yes

[thorn cedar]

Even though it was behind me

[naive imp]

Do you want to swipe?

[still hearth]

It does the damage only at the end

And towards the enemy you're looking at

[still hearth]

No

Only the final tick does actual damage

And it will fire where you're looking at the end

[thorn cedar]

Pretty whack

[still hearth]

Also Surge does random damage

[primal radish]

how do you get surge to stun muties consistently? mine arent always stunning

[still hearth]

It fluctuates around like 50 damage for no apparent reason

[still hearth]

Someone else has to hit them as well

Idk if its rending or something but its very reliable if someone else hits them

[primal radish]

oh..

[still hearth]

Otherwise it usually takes 2-3 charges to start stunning them

They also seem to get stunned by walls even without the bonus option if you surge them

Like the dome

[undone carbon]

what perk do i change? unyielding -> crit chance?

[still hearth]

Specialist to Carapace or Maniac prob

Crit works too but once you have Warp Nexus 4 it's not as big of a bump

[ornate hamlet]

oh, my friend told me wounds is uselss

so is good to have 1 curio with wounds

[still hearth]

They are on anything but Zealots.

[ornate hamlet]

oh

[still hearth]

1 curio can be fine though

[ornate hamlet]

ok

[still hearth]

But generally you want to stack HP or Toughness

[ornate hamlet]

take it psyker is just health/tough

[still hearth]

Since they make you die less

[ornate hamlet]

yeah thats what im doing atm

[still hearth]

One stamina curio is also an option

But I have stamina on my dueling sword because ops

[ornate hamlet]

running 2 15% toughnesses and a 19% health

[still hearth]

I run triple toughness right now but it feels a bit bad so I might swap to HP

In theory its good but in practice

I die less with HP curios

[ornate hamlet]

wish it wasnt block

[still hearth]

Ah well what can you do

(Roll a new one, good luck)

[ornate hamlet]

plasteel death

millions must spend plasteel

[pliant tendon]

man i hate warp syphon

i spend all game trying to get a charge or two

each time i do like 90% of the damage and then somebody steals the kill

[ornate hamlet]

mate

i dont even know

what that even is

is that the thing that allows me to put multiple domes down?

[still hearth]

Yes

It's bugged

[rare storm]

Not supposed to be but yes

[still hearth]

1 warp charge gives you all CD back

But only for shield

[ornate hamlet]

so my build is a bug build

ok

[still hearth]

It's okay

Most Psyker builds are bugged

[rare storm]

Like the emperor palpatine smite build

[still hearth]

[rare storm]

lulw

[ornate hamlet]

i run palpatine with double dome

i run crowd control

[silk scarab]

I weep for all the ifini shield and smite psykers in the next patch.

[still hearth]

If you run Warp Charges with either Shield or Shriek its bugged

[rare storm]

meanwhile I'm just enjoying voidstrike with surge and true aim

[still hearth]

If you run Empowered with Smite its bugged

[pliant tendon]

but smite is so bad even when it's infinite and empowered lmao

[still hearth]

Destiny is kinda bugged in general

[still hearth]

Shh, don't tell them.

[ornate hamlet]

psyker momento

class is bogged

[still hearth]

Psyker has been bugged from the start

Wildfire procs from corpses

[rare storm]

Ehh honestly, I run a soulblaze smite build

[still hearth]

Idk if that's actually a bug but

[rare storm]

I melt hordes and specials pretty well

[still hearth]

Elite and specialist damage doesn't work on specialists

CDR aura is 17.5% instead of 10%

You barely can play Psyker without being bugged

[rare storm]

The best class

[still hearth]

Uhh what else

The Dodge node does nothing to dodge duration

So it's just +1 dodge

[plucky flax]

I am not bugged.

[still hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/very-importatn-gif-25246988

[plucky flax]

Next patch I go back to vet main. They are fixing volley fire.

See ya later warp nerds.

[rare storm]

Or you can be a melee psyker

with m4 dswords

[slate oasis]

Oh my god I was wondering why warp siphon was giving me all my ult back…

what ISN’T bugged on the psyker

[still hearth]

Surge does random damage numbers.

Hmm.

What else

Smite nodes work on Surge staff

Did I miss anything

[rare storm]

Is this not intended

LOL

[naive imp]

Can surge staff hit weak spots?

[still hearth]

Most likely not.

[rare storm]

no

[naive imp]

Or is it only crits?

Kk

[still hearth]

With the LMB

Not the RMB charge

[rare storm]

oh then yes

kek

[austere steeple]

I high key wanna make a ogryn

[still hearth]

DO it they're OP

Enjoy

[rare storm]

I mean whats stopping you

[austere steeple]

The leveling lmao

[empty onyx]

Wait, people don't have all 4 classes?

[rare storm]

AHHHH you'll be 30 in like 2hours

[austere steeple]

I have 14 hours on the game…

[empty onyx]

Ah. Yes, that would explain it.

[frank moat]

Question, does Smite Enfeeble only cause the enemy to take +10% damage while actively being hit by Smite? Or can you zap a mook and swap to melee for more damage

[empty onyx]

In that case, do it, Ogryn's fun!

[rare storm]

only 1400hours more to go

[austere steeple]

Easy

[rare storm]

It's a debuff placed on them if I'm not wrong

[austere steeple]

I just hate running malice because somehow I get more idiots

But shiiii lemme get on the game now and ogryn up

[empty onyx]

Sometimes I've seen enemies having that zappy lightning effect on them for a few moments even after you stop zapping them, but I have no way of knowing if that would still count as debuffed.

[rare storm]

or you can just run assail and basically solo most games heressy and below

[elfin rune]

What does "Finesse Damage" mean?

[empty onyx]

Weakspots/Headshot damage bonus.

[austere steeple]

I solo damnation with my pskyer pretty much

Well low intensity damn nation

lol

[plucky flax]

Veri pro pls teach me ;.;

[frank moat]

Okay after testing in Psykhanium you cannot swap weapon to get the damage buff

Even if they still have the lingering spark effect

[fierce crest]

alright gamers, use your future sight

will i regret rolling a mk4 duel sword

before the patch

[rare storm]

er nah

it will probably stay as good as it is now or get better

so.... win win either way

[fierce crest]

well its gettig buffed per the patch notes

but it might not remmain the best DS

and ive never been a big fan of DS since vt

so i could just wait

[rare storm]

Subject to change, there are some people calling bs on the buff, but not sure what FS will be doing

[austere steeple]

Man ogryn chat lame ash

[rare storm]

In all honesty just play what you like, it doesn't really matter much I guess

I still run force swords lol

[fierce crest]

yeah i do too

but i wanna try DS

[naive imp]

Sah?

[fierce crest]

give em a second chance as it were

[rare storm]

It's a nice alternate playstyle

I'm making a melee only psyker setup

one shotting mutants as they run to you is always fun

[fierce crest]

also i like illisi way more than deimos

i usually run an axe for single target

but i i dont want both my loadouts with a single target melee to use the same weapon

[austere steeple]

Na I’m just morning cranky and someone didn’t answer my question lmao

[fierce crest]

dang this is the lowest total ive seen in a long time

[austere steeple]

Dude I had a windstaff drop with 9% damage 😂

[magic vessel]

God I love combat knife. Wish I could get an above 310 chainsword to show up

[austere steeple]

Mb

Void staff lmao

Wind staff like I’m playing origins😭

[fierce crest]

you are like little baby

watch this

[magic vessel]

BRO

[austere steeple]

😭

[rare storm]

Amazing

[magic vessel]

I do not have words

[austere steeple]

No fucking mames

[slate oasis]

It’s made of foam

[austere steeple]

And you made it a gold 😭

[fierce crest]

its not even the deimos i use but i keep it cuz its funny

[jolly cedar]

Best curio perks for psyker?

[fierce crest]

dockets

[rare storm]

L>Bonus plasteel curios perks

[fierce crest]

if they existed i would take them

these are good

these for DR

dont really like any of these

[rare storm]

toughness regen's pretty nice

[fierce crest]

ehhhh

so many better ways of healing toughness

than the passive regen

even 30% is not that much

[rare storm]

Das true

hmm

[fierce crest]

probly if you stacked it on all 3 it would be noticable

[rare storm]

Thats what I'm doing till I get my perfect curios lol

[slate oasis]

I had gunner resist on all 3 of my curios for a while and I honestly didn’t notice a difference at all lol

[rare storm]

can't get the combat cd

[fierce crest]

but all of our first choices for talent are good toughness heal

[frank moat]

Do any of y’all run stamina curios?

[thorn cedar]

ye

[frank moat]

I’ve got two +3s in storage but can’t decide if I bother rolling

[fierce crest]

60% longer to die to a gunner horde is very nice

[thorn cedar]

any time i use a dueling or force sword without the peril block node

[fierce crest]

keep in mind if its a 75 its actually only +2

[thorn cedar]

so not terribly often

[frank moat]

Curio DR stacks multiplicatively, it’s 48% resist with 3 curios

[fierce crest]

well either way

[fierce crest]

this will only give +2 in game

[frank moat]

76 and 77 thankfully

[fierce crest]

weird rounding visual bug

[still hearth]

Rounding bugs are a staple now

It's why we had 384 base rating weapons

[fierce crest]

[still hearth]

Or 385

But that wasn't actually real

[slate oasis]

I like having bonus stamina regardless of build because it makes it easier to rez people

[fierce crest]

but yeah, DR vs things that always deal 100% toughness (bombers, flamers, snipers) suck but since snipers also deal a chunck of HP damage the DR swings back to usefull for them

[still hearth]

Snipers can be Toughness tanked (on other classes get rekt Psyker)

[fierce crest]

bursters also deal 100% toughness with an HP chunk too, but no DR perk for them sadge

[normal plover]

I personally like block efficiency with peril block for some comfy rezzing even with combat knife

[fierce crest]

and hounds and mutants dont really do much damage

mutants kill me more often by throwing me off a ledge than by actually dealing damage

and hounds are just CC monsters

[still hearth]

Hound damage ramps up

You die in like 10s

From corruption without HP curios

[fierce crest]

yeah and you get rescued in 3 seconds or your team wipes

[still hearth]

Lmao

I never get rescued

[fierce crest]

exactly

so DR does nothing

[still hearth]

It's not really worth it yeah

Either the dog does no damage

[fierce crest]

this is why Gunner and Sniper is the only DR worth taking

[still hearth]

Or you just fucking die

[fierce crest]

cuz those ones actually can chunk your HP in normal situations

[slate oasis]

Literally how though. It’s so easy to save people from hounds

[fierce crest]

did yall know venting shriek goes through walls

you can knock hounds off of ppl that didnt drop from that ledge

and are now alone with a hound on them

[still hearth]

Idk the 200 crushers got in the way

[fierce crest]

shriek

[still hearth]

They all play zealot

[fierce crest]

30m range baybeeee

@spice veldt is cleave a dump stat for m4 DS?

[plucky flax]

Zealot with loner aura most selfish people (me)

[fierce crest]

anotha one

anotha one

is there a place that shows the cleave damage of weapons

i know vt2 had a mod for that

[frank moat]

Can’t you just highlight the bar with your mouse? Or am I misunderstanding

[glad meadow]

where can i read on the nerf for assail?

i don't wanna look through a long list of patch note

[frank moat]

Psyker changes are the very first thing listed on the U14 notes

[glad meadow]

is that so?

[frank moat]

Just ctrl-f assail

[glad meadow]

nice then, cus most patch note i've seen got like 7 page of bug fix

[frank moat]

They’re dropping the damage very slightly on M1 and raising the damage on M2

[jolly cedar]

thx

[valid talon]

Its about a 20% nerf IIRC, wouldn't say thats slight

Wonder if it'll hit any breakpoints

[glad meadow]

20% damage nerf on light?

[fierce crest]

not the health damage, the cleave damage

[glad meadow]

that hefty

[fierce crest]

its a hidden thing

[glad meadow]

why keep the light in the first place, just make it into a second type of brain burst lol

[frank moat]

I guess you’re right, 250 to 200

Elite health also being tweaked upwards so that’ll contribute

[valid talon]

I just wish they make the voice lines that play when someone uses them proc less often

If I have to hear a psyker shout some shit about hide and seek one more time

[fierce crest]

there was a mod that shows it in vt2

[glad meadow]

i don't like the secondary throw at all

[frank moat]

Oh okay, sorry yeah don’t know meself

[valid talon]

The sec throw sucks currently, I don't think the patch buffs them enough

[fierce crest]

poxwalkers not 1shot by non crit headshot

groaners still will be

[rare storm]

Honestly not a nerf, more like a balance

I like it though, makes m2 more useful

[fierce crest]

m2 will do a lot more damage

m1 will do a bit less

[glad meadow]

I guess for my playstyle its a nerf

[rare storm]

I honestly just use assail now to build up warp siphon and perfect timing stacks and go ham with void

[glad meadow]

The aim just felt like a better brain burst probably now

[rare storm]

ehhh you'll be able to clear out snipers and stuff further away better

[glad meadow]

No, i dont want it to do that

[rare storm]

And for horde clearing the dmg nerf doesn't affect anything

So all in all it's ultimately unaffected

[magic vessel]

Oh hey the aetheneum finished the write up on recon lasguns

[glad meadow]

I rather it just be the magic missile thing

[vagrant frigate]

is that the crit one?

[rare storm]

I guess so yes

[vagrant frigate]

oh did duh

dd*

I think it's fun

gives me speed, damage, weak spot, crit, and highlights

[glad meadow]

Also the animation for assail is ugly as shit that i refused to play it until i decide to roll for a gun psyker

It definitely save me ammo

[rare storm]

I keep getting cucked on my teammates getting the marked enemy kills instead of me lmao

[vagrant frigate]

it's just a play style thing

run whatever u want

I literally speed through everything

[glad meadow]

Marked enemies that can be stolen is a bad mechanic

This is a team work horde clear game

[rare storm]

yee I tried it, it's fun but it's just when I get cucked it sucks

[glad meadow]

Doing that just stupid

[rare storm]

I hope it changes to a coherency thing

[jolly cedar]

whats wrong with combat cd?

[vagrant frigate]

yeah they need to change the marked thing

[rare storm]

No nothing is wrong is just that my luck sucks and I can't get a t4 on my curios

LOL

[glad meadow]

It just 1% differences

[rare storm]

I like to min max

[magic vessel]

It needs to mark more things, you only need 1 marked kill per 15-30 seconds.

[vagrant frigate]

I run forward like a zealot and kill everything, but I have used gun psyker since launch so im kinda good at doing that, it's definitely super risky lol

[rare storm]

if my wep isn't at least 78 in 3 stats I want, I bin it

[vagrant frigate]

my entire build is crit, speed, headshot based

crit = ranges immunity

[glad meadow]

Weirdly enough i explode with it and assail more than on my surge setup lol

[vagrant frigate]

I use bb

[glad meadow]

I have warp shipon, scry and gun

I use bb first but with a gun it just dont feel at great

[jolly cedar]

we all like to min max

i play this game to min max

[glad meadow]

So with assail its like my backup gun i guess

[rare storm]

kinetic flayer is fun, wish the cd was lesser than 15s tho

[vagrant frigate]

I like bb for on hit kill

[rare storm]

exactly

[glad meadow]

Bb on hit is like 15s cool down

[jolly cedar]

this game is path of exile to me

i play 100 hours

[glad meadow]

That cant be sped up

[jolly cedar]

to increase my power by 1%

[rare storm]

If I KNOW there's a 1% boost I can get I WANT IT

[jolly cedar]

big worth

[glad meadow]

Its absurd

[jolly cedar]

aye

[glad meadow]

I tried it and retreat immediately

[rare storm]

I NEED IT

[velvet spear]

coming back to the game first time in months, did they ruin the psyker

[jolly cedar]

This game is a pursuit of perfection

when they release red weapons and curios though the min max will be too easy

[vagrant frigate]

dd is the only way i get toughness back when not in coherency tbh

[glad meadow]

Either its a low low chance without cd or with cool down and 100% chance on a special or elite for free brain burst

[rare storm]

Trying to get 4% more on my charge rate for a perfect voidstaff