psyker-class

[spare light]

The scariest crusher is the stealthy type

[languid tusk]

the power of a soul destroying death cannon in the palm of your hand

[neat summit]

Stealth crushers are my actual fear. That and lag maulers.

Lag maulers lose games

[spare light]

Or dodging a sniper shot into another one aimed for your team mate

accidental GET DOWN MR PRESIDENT

[neat summit]

Unfortunate

[spice oar]

I am genuienly tweaking cause the second I get surgical tier 4, thats a god roll

[rich rose]

which is the preferred dual sword currently? blessings?

[neat summit]

Hi intensity sniper gauntlet moments

[spice oar]

The gunker is real and he has a cannon

[bleak tulip]

4

[spare light]

me being cocky and laughing at the 4 snipers aiming at me through bubble

sniper in my back

https://tenor.com/view/homie-shower-gotchu-sneaky-gif-13813267

[neat summit]

The best

[languid tusk]

relationship goals: get your partner to look at you like sniper in the back looks at your cranium

[spice oar]

Ain't snipers shoot through bubble rn cause bug

[neat summit]

They do

Deflector vs 4 maulers with a sniper backspawn PTSD

[languid tusk]

yeah maulers are like slenderman, the second you turn around they teleport behind you

they have insane speedboost when you are not looking at them

[spare light]

https://tenor.com/view/one-punch-man-deep-sea-king-ominous-menacing-inazumax-gif-20123974

[neat summit]

Fax

[jolly cedar]

Is rampage any good on dueling swords?

[solar sand]

you get that in the light attacks easily

but its not BiS i dont htink

[bleak tulip]

its not great

[jolly cedar]

Yeah it seems to be the BiS on every weapon

[bleak tulip]

besides push block you dont really have much cleave on 4

[solar sand]

and i usually only whip it out to use once on a mutant so useless to me

[jolly cedar]

but dueling swords might be an exception

[spice veldt]

if it weren't bugged, i'd say it's a fine option on the mk4 but not something I'd personally take

[solar sand]

dueling cleave is ok but its not the best thing to build around

[spice veldt]

good thing that rampage is giving a ~2x damage boost currently

[solar sand]

mostly silly big numbers on heavy attack

[spice veldt]

rampage memes https://streamable.com/0xpve1

[spare light]

Arco, do you run BB with your setup?

[austere steeple]

i got a bad feeling about this team

[spice veldt]

no i'm an assail gamer

[solar sand]

who needs wounds anyway

[spice veldt]

my ass ails

[spare light]

From the crushers, yes, I've seen

[neat summit]

BB still my bae with purg

[spice veldt]

shush yourself

[solar sand]

see assail is amazing, then you get good at voidstrike and its kinda useless

[spice veldt]

you saw nothing

[bleak tulip]

nah its not useless

[neat summit]

BB. Purg. Deimos. Grofit.

[spare light]

point I'm at atm

[bleak tulip]

its still great for mopping spread out shitters

[spare light]

Why Deimos?

[neat summit]

Deflector clutch

[solar sand]

see assails only failing

[bleak tulip]

and for instantly refilling your toughness

[solar sand]

is like, 5 and up

where the 3 per throw can get overwhelmed

[spare light]

Illisi has that too though

[solar sand]

the infinite pen of voidstrike makes it scale better

into big hoards

[neat summit]

But illisi isn’t amazing against crushers where my Deimos is

[bleak tulip]

I mean if youre using only assail in maelstrom thats a skill issue

[solar sand]

i used it like once cause someone else was already on smite

and i didnt end up using the assail

just my voidstrike

on auric mael

[spice veldt]

12 cleave max

[spare light]

I used purg today, we had a Void/Assail psyker too, I felt kinda useless

[solar sand]

seemingly inifinte

[neat summit]

Then we just sit in BB mode and pop the 500 gunners

[solar sand]

compared to the only 3 per assail throw

[neat summit]

And spam insta shield cheese

[spice veldt]

i'm mean yeah it's hard to compare to the DPS of void

if you're bringing void, you're not going to be concerned about your other weapons

[solar sand]

dont get me wrong i love assail not bashing on it

but since i got a good voidstrike and got comfy with it i dont use assail anymore

i think its really goot for a melee build though

[austere steeple]

fuck maelstorm team mates

[solar sand]

dueling for single target, assail for crowd

[spice veldt]

yeah that's basically what I run

since I like Trauma the most mechanically among the staffs, but I also dislike its stagger

so it sits in my back pocket and I just run a blitz + melee playstyle as I did pre-patch 13

this time with Assail + mk4 duellies instead of Brain Burst + Illisi

[spare light]

I bet it's sitting next to the crushers there

[solar sand]

im excited to see what the patch brings for assail, having its power shifted into single target will be interesting

[neat summit]

Ohlawd

[spice veldt]

i doubt it'll change much since its ammo economy is still silly

and the RMB is somewhat slow to enter

[bleak tulip]

I sure am gonna use the right click more

[solar sand]

once you know how to aim it theres rarely a need to rmb

[bleak tulip]

just for downtime

[spice veldt]

for the LMB, the first shard comes out 0.19s after clicking, and the second shard 0.33s after from the first

and there's a ~0.6s interval from the 2nd shard's throw to the next

RMB is especially slow from a quickswapping perspective

[olive ember]

calculate the opportunity cost of each shard given the time it takes per shard

[bleak tulip]

you joke but thats kind of why assail is so dumb

shit kills trash faster than melee

[spice veldt]

and regenerating while you're using other weapons

whereas with brain burst/smite, you're spending your time using them

[thorn cedar]

you can just left click into right click home

dont even really need right click outside of extreme long distances or busy fights

right click toss rather

[bleak tulip]

I mean next patch the idea is that it does more damage

[spice veldt]

i don't think you can even use the RMB faster than you regenerate if you have Quick Shards tkaen

[spare light]

I like the trauma staff, but I can't seem to use it properly for horde clear

[gusty furnace]

Dueling Swords are getting a cleave buff next patch

While currently yes, its good.

Its going to be more reliable to proc next patch.

[spare light]

@neat summit I snatched this bad boy up a while ago, opinions?

[steady yarrow]

best curio perks? toughness regen damage resistence for gunners?

[broken carbon]

not regen

regen doesn’t work

[steady yarrow]

just overall toughness?

oh right

[broken carbon]

ya

[bleak tulip]

CDR is good too

[broken carbon]

i’d say health too but

it’s up to you

[spare light]

wait, this don't work?

[broken carbon]

no

[bleak tulip]

it works no coherency only pretty much

[spare light]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-he-sketch-asian-president-gif-24487538

[broken carbon]

well i don’t remember if it doesn’t work or if it’s just really weak but

it’s not worth taking

[spare light]

so what I do replace it with?

oh, ability CDR maybe

[bleak tulip]

CDR, gunner resist, health, toughness

[spice veldt]

regen speed works fine, but psyker's toughness regen from talents is cracked at the moment

[bleak tulip]

whatever you like

[slate oasis]

+10% ordo dockets $$$

[neat summit]

I like it so far. Great base stats

[spare light]

[spare light]

Yea but perk & blessing is meh

[bleak tulip]

stam is like the worst thing you could take tbh

you get kinetic deflect

you straight up dont need stam

[jolly cedar]

oh damn thats good

[spare light]

[valid talon]

Not sure if I should be proud or not

[bleak tulip]

nah

[clear heath]

wait has it always been 1 elite?

i swear it used to need more

[broken carbon]

decent

[bleak tulip]

no

[valid talon]

I got a pair of pants for it lmao

[half turtle]

what sorts of problems do you have with it

[broken carbon]

ya used to be three

[bleak tulip]

used to be 3 or 4

[valid talon]

"Congrats bro you fell to the warp and your brain exploded"

"heres some pants"

[spare light]

Having to aim my camera up to hit something far away

[half turtle]

oh i meant with horde clear

[broken carbon]

that’s just something you get used to with time

[spare light]

Oh, if the horde is coming in a singular line, it's fine

[half turtle]

yeah at some point you get a good feeling for like, how far up to move the camera for what distance even if you can't see the ground circle

[frigid tinsel]

I am strugglign to enjoy psycher. The voidstrike staff makes it feel marginally more viable, but is there really any point to picking something but assail? it seems TOO good to not have

[spare light]

I'm a fireball/beam staff lover in VT2, I'm a voidstrike guy here

[half turtle]

so with trauma it's way more ok to be surrounded because you can put it on your own feet and stagger everyone near you for like 5 seconds

[spare light]

Huh, that's a good point

[half turtle]

trauma is probably better against big blobs of guys than against a stream because it has infinite cleave

it feels kinda mediocre against a stream because the stagger radius is a lot bigger than the damage radius so you end up killing 1 guy and knocking 2

[primal radish]

Which melee weapon do you think has best boss damage, I'm guessing knife with bleed?

[spare light]

I guess trauma is better paired with a melee playstyle

[spice veldt]

bleed knife or bloodletter chord probably without relying on weakspots

[primal radish]

What's chord?

[half turtle]

my feeling with trauma is that if you're running it you're mostly using melee to pick up stuff like mutants and maybe to finish stragglers

trauma basically does everything at short-to-medium range

[tropic geyser]

opinions on RIposte vs Precognition on force sword, paired with Shred?

[half turtle]

then you can assail or brain burst to finish off stuff that's far away

[broken carbon]

chain sword

[primal radish]

Crit pretty meh on force swords

[tropic geyser]

I go a full crit build so it is what it is

[primal radish]

Just get slaughterer for 1 blessing

And the other whichever

[tropic geyser]

I do have tier 4 slaughter for the Deimos

[rich rose]

Void, Assail, dualing sword is my current go to, hate Trauma

[spare light]

I guess deimos is a mix between DS and Illisi huh

[past brook]

it's the stabby, single-target focus force sword
illisi is the horde control one
obscurus is the middle child

[primal radish]

More like DS and obscurus

[spare light]

@neat summit Since I'm going to look into a purg build, can I see your staff/sword?

[spice oar]

Allr took the headhunter for a spin, can headshot gunners and and almost anything not carapace after like only 2 seconds of aiming

[hoary leaf]

I am pretty sure I looked this up before but does Purgatas Staff kills count towards weekly kill mission

[slate oasis]

I don't see why they wouldn't

[austere steeple]

bro

how cant randos do a malice maelstorm smh

this games lame asf solo que

[neat summit]

1 sec

[neat summit]

Yes it is. it doesn't do as much as DS IIRC but it does enough and you can put deflector, which is crazy good.

[spare light]

I do miss deflector on DS, so I'm willing to try it out

this is what I have right now

[hoary leaf]

Its the kinda thing where I worry that the burn kills the enemy and it doesnt count

[spare light]

thinking of moving precog to deflector and crit chance to carapace

[hoary leaf]

Or just that it doesnt count at all cause it seems like some missions I dont get any progress even after cooking whole squads of the needed elites

[neat summit]

@spare light

[spare light]

thanks

[neat summit]

My rolls aren't god rolls but I play quickplay damnation aurics almost exclusively

I'd like to see more cloud radius on my staff and more finesse on my sword but I can't complain too much

[torpid void]

may someone recommend an assail build for me

[whole oxide]

so, when people tell me that anything BB can hit, Void can also hit, and I tell them that sometimes stuff is not in line-of-sight long enough to Void...... this is the stuff I'm talking about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq4OaquGFVQ

[naive imp]

Why peril on block? Isn’t that bad?

[whole oxide]

not the best 2 examples, just ones I remembered from today, gonna start putting this into a montage for the "BB bad" people

[whole oxide]

its one of psykers best traits.....

[spice veldt]

kinetic deflection is gr8

[neat summit]

Deflector

[spice veldt]

chaos spawns be damned

[neat summit]

Deimos fucks up maulers and crushers

And muties

[tepid sinew]

Which of these is better? they both seem like a pretty decent starting point.

[obtuse walrus]

Hello fellow BB Enjoyers

💪

[obtuse walrus]

Left

[whole oxide]

yeah, left has 2 okay perks already, so you can reroll both blessings if they turn out bad, right is gonna need both perks rerolled, so you'd need alot of luck on the blessing when upgrading

[obtuse walrus]

You could also just put surge on it (if you sacrifice other one) , especially if the second blessing is warp flurry

[whole oxide]

and also warp resist > quell speed

[tepid sinew]

Perfect, I have both just picked up the left from Melk. I will wait to consecrate both and see what happens

[ornate hamlet]

why is the dueling sword allowed to deal 3k+ damage in a single heavy

[whole oxide]

oh, i thought you had both

[tepid sinew]

I do have both

[obtuse walrus]

[whole oxide]

oh, good

[obtuse walrus]

Funny

[whole oxide]

don't want to miss that Surge blessing

[real sundial]

anyone have a take on the smite builds? I see ppl run it all the timenow

[obtuse walrus]

Smite is a great support

[hoary leaf]

thats unlimited power yeah?

[obtuse walrus]

Constant stun lock is more useful than most give credit for

[hoary leaf]

people prolly trying to get as many runs in before they fix it

[whole oxide]

you can't really "main" smite, at least not once they fix the EP bug, it's a nice occasional use, but don't try and use it all the time and base your entire build around it

[hoary leaf]

while I agree it does need to be fixed cause that is an exploit it is so much fun to use

[real sundial]

i will try it while is good thanks

[obtuse walrus]

I prefer my bb

[solar sand]

im really trying and its doable but its not quite good enough

cant rely on it like you can with the bug

maybe with 2 then it would have the same instant win effect of the bug

[whole oxide]

thing is, it's in your grenade slot, you're not supposed to be throwing out grenades 24/7

as an occasional use for a specific situation, its fine

[hoary leaf]

yeah thats what I feel too, without that bug it just builds peril too fast to really be used

[real sundial]

How do you activate the bug?

[solar sand]

like last mission i was near soloing 4mael with a good voidstrike and warp siphon and id use smite when we got crowd controled, but even in 4 it felt weaker than bug does in auric 5mael

just equip empowered

and your cast is now free

so perma empowered smite

[hoary leaf]

that one perk that gives you the grenade charge, if you use it while you have one it costs no peril for the entire duration until you stop casting or get interrupted

[real sundial]

Ok thanks

[obtuse walrus]

They call me the magic man

I cast spells and shit

[hoary leaf]

I think if they halved the peril build it would become an ok ability once they patch the bug

[solar sand]

either it needs to do more damage, maybe apply soulfire stacks while empowered

or like -50% reduced peril cost

[spice oar]

the ep more than doubling the dmg and spread will combine to make it good next patch

[spice oar]

^

[hoary leaf]

I dont think the damage is something it truely needs, I mainly use it as a CC more than damage, I treat it like the Zealots stun nade

[obtuse walrus]

The thing I have with Smite, it's the same ability as a staff. Whereas the other two abilities are unique to blitz

[hoary leaf]

I feel its better than the staff

but I am using the bug version

so not the best judge

[obtuse walrus]

I think the staff should be replaced

[solar sand]

the staff is a fun lazy weapon

but not good enough for try harding imo

surge that is

[hoary leaf]

I never got a good one so I mainly used my Purgatas

[obtuse walrus]

Anyways, it's 3:30.time to snooze

[hoary leaf]

like the voidstrike one now though

[obtuse walrus]

[spice oar]

i mean, i kinda like using 2 smites, (tho i wouldnt mind if the USELESS FUCKING left click of smite turned into some kind of high impact thunderbolt from your hand in order to knockdown specials really fast.)

[hoary leaf]

even with the impending nerfs I think I will continue to use it

[solar sand]

not perfect but pretty good, its nice for lazy runs, but never into 5s

[spice oar]

brother get that warp nexus up

[solar sand]

see its nearly single target

but does less single target damage than voidstrike

[hoary leaf]

everytime you left click a 2 sec sample of thunderstruck plays and slams everything in front of you with a thunder punch

[solar sand]

but it auto aims so

[spice oar]

force glove for punching psychically????

[hoary leaf]

ohhhhhh

that could be fun

[spice oar]

WAIT thatd be so fucking cool

[hoary leaf]

thunder falcon punch

[spice oar]

give me a fist weapon FS please

[hoary leaf]

nade gauntlet

[spice oar]

i just want to RKO a chaos beast

[solar sand]

a melee damage blitz

[hoary leaf]

while not the best it is fun to use

[spice oar]

true, however psykers need one

[hoary leaf]

yeeeeeees

[spice oar]

that or a force 2handed weapon like a halberd or quarterstaff

[solar sand]

i think BB needs a little bit of a rework, imagine you could store a stack or two, so you whip it out like a recharging grenade, or you could manually charge like it is

or like every other charge ability

you could cast mid charge for less damage

[spice oar]

bbs fine, its just outshined by Assail rn

[solar sand]

it could really use some QoL stuff

power wise i think its ok

[spice oar]

i dont think storing bbs is a good idea

mid charge cast tho?

pretty rad

[solar sand]

i mean every other ability/charge lets you do that

[spice oar]

smite cant

its just rlly fast

[solar sand]

it has to be like 3/4 cast it feels like

but not quite full

[spice oar]

"feels like"

[solar sand]

ok yeah it cant

but with its speed i guess i dont need it to

BB even empowered would be nice

as full charge is overkill for most things anyway

slow down max charge, increase max damage, allow mid charge release

[coarse osprey]

what perks should I swap to?

[spare light]

did the emperor just mock me?

[spice oar]

flak and crit/weak spot dmg but maxed

maybe maniac

i have the exact same blessings but i forgor what perks i got except flak

[coarse osprey]

o7

ty

[spice oar]

o7

[solar sand]

what to do with this?

[spice oar]

do you dodge?

[solar sand]

yeah

[spice oar]

like a lot

[willow escarp]

haven’t run psyker much at all since patch 13 — anybody use trauma staff with disrupt destiny?

[solar sand]

if finese damage works how i think it is, thats a lot of extra headshot damage

constantly yeah

[spare light]

Interesting build, no warp rider?

[spice oar]

grab a longer range staff like surge or void, easier to hit targets, and trauma being aoe means you kill all potential targets along with the one your killing

[solar sand]

but i kinda want the blocks range so i can use it to block, otherwise melee psyker seems too squishy to me, though maybe im playing it wrong

[spice oar]

cause dd only changes the second the highlighted enemy dies

[willow escarp]

but I want to kill them right? Not interested in surge or void really

[spare light]

not sure which one to trade it for flak/carapace

[whole oxide]

surge longer range than trauma 🧐

[solar sand]

which item?

oh melee nvm

[spice oar]

yes, surge and void also kill. But you could always just use a gun, Las pistol, Revolver, Vraks Headhunter,

[willow escarp]

Getting the quell from DD seems interesting and the crit chance may be good with blazing trauma. None of the keystones seem like a huge deal though? Warp stacks for inner tranq makes sense

[spice oar]

DD quells?

[willow escarp]

mhm. yeah I’m asking more on the trauma side than the DD side

Yeah there’s a modifier that goes a 20% chance to quell 15% crit on killing marked enemy

[spice oar]

forgot

[spice oar]

i mean shit no one is stopping you, just play more close ranged than any other ranged weapon (apart purg) since you rlly not got the range

[willow escarp]

also how important is ethereal shards for assail?

[solar sand]

tempting

[spice oar]

very

also

[willow escarp]

right, I have a couple hundred hours using trauma I’m just wondering if anyone tried DD with it

[spice oar]

if your running assail then dont even care about the ranged weapon

[whole oxide]

🧐

[solar sand]

would be for a DD melee build

[willow escarp]

Nah I’m gonna try assail and se show it does for killing gunners and things outside of range

[solar sand]

snipe marks at range

[naive imp]

Doesn’t it just make you explode?

[spice oar]

no silly billy

[willow escarp]

I’ve played enough auric maels with pub psykers at this point to know assail is not a primary lol

[whole oxide]

no, the peril gain is very low

[spice oar]

it physically cant

you cannot die from it

[naive imp]

Oh guess I need to mess with it then. Lol

[solar sand]

it takes you to 100%, but not past it

and i dont think you push yourself past the 100% on it

could be wrong though

also tempting, easy soulblaze stacking

i have this one but im soso on it

[naive imp]

How long does blood thirsty last?

[whole oxide]

1 hit

[naive imp]

That’s pretty cool

[spice oar]

you could sacrifice it for bloodthirsty, then pop it on the other sword and have a very good blaze weapon

[solar sand]

yeah thats what im thinkg

[spice oar]

shit thatd be a rlly good combo

and dw about the deflector

[naive imp]

Is infinite smite good against monstrosity or better to do anything else?

[spice oar]

tier 4 and tier 3-2 isnt much difference

[naive imp]

Like does it lock it up?

[solar sand]

actually depending on your team

[whole oxide]

honestly, i've tried blazing/bloodthirsty....... its not good

[spice oar]

terrible against monsters

[solar sand]

the 10% increased damage

might be better than your own damage

[spice oar]

god

imagine

[solar sand]

plus CC of any nearby adds

[spice oar]

actually yeah pretty valid,

combine with soulblaze shout

for dot build

[solar sand]

unless its just the monstrosity and i do more damage than my team, i just smite them, and that seems to work out well

DPS dont need to worry about adds, and they do 10% more damage

like if say a vet or two are running high damage stuff like kraks or plasma, or thunder hammers etc

voidstrike is crazy damage but not as much against bosses

compared to some other things

[hoary leaf]

why do people still run through the emperor damned levels

its not a race damnit

[solar sand]

yes but also

why do some people linger for like minutes for no reason

at least on harder stuff

like auric you gotta keep moving

[hoary leaf]

that one as long as its like a quick min I assume taking a drink or dropped something

[solar sand]

what perks?

[slate oasis]

flak and maniac

[undone carbon]

what do you want on psyker curios? I was thinking health + 2x toughness w toughness, hp and gunner resist perks

[valid talon]

lol you dont like gunners eh

[viscid matrix]

its mostly preference, some like all toughness, others like all hp
it all depends

i myself prefer all HP so i have 278hp and 105 toughness

[valid talon]

IDK if health perk is worth it (you total at most +15% health) but I use +3 stamina and 2 toughness curios

[viscid matrix]

tbh stamina is a wasted stat on psyker

its only use is running and melee push

[valid talon]

Kinda yeah, but its +3 and that makes my eyes go awogga

[viscid matrix]

you get 26% per curio at max, i have only 25% per curio

[valid talon]

I mean the perk - not the blessing

[viscid matrix]

ohh
5% hp/5% toughness
gunner/sniper resist
ability cooldown/curio reward/ordo dockets

[spice veldt]

sure y not; I don't consider th eother options particularly appealing

[valid talon]

3 health perks is only 5% each, for a total of 15

[spice veldt]

+health is at least generally applying

[obtuse dragon]

what is the ideal/god roll force sword? dump stat? blessings? mkii vs mk iv?

[valid talon]

I would say revive speed, ordo dockets, or...eh idk

[spice veldt]

obscurus (mk2) is the worst force sword

[valid talon]

I luv me my ordo dockets

[spice veldt]

use the deimos (mk4) preferably

[solar sand]

that uh, that did not go well, first attempt at a melee soulfire build, 4^

[viscid matrix]

Warp Resist is dump stat if not using Scriers Gaze, if you are then Mobility is the dump stat

[obtuse dragon]

the mkv not worth anything?

nad preferable blessings?

[spice veldt]

illisi is fine for hordeclear

[viscid matrix]

the Obscuros is the first force sword you have access to, so its the shit version, the Deimos is a better version of it and is a Single Target force sword, Illisi is a horde clearer and best for hiting a horde

[spice veldt]

though we have a lot of hordeclear options on our ranged/blitz options and the meta staff currently has hordeclear as well

so single-target melees are the way to go if running those builds

[viscid matrix]

we use the names of the force swords to differentiate between them

[spice veldt]

really depends on your builds as a whole

[obtuse dragon]

im mostly going assail build with surge staff so i already have wave clear. what are the best blessings?

[viscid matrix]

Uncanny Strike for the Rend

[obtuse dragon]

perks manic and and flak?

[viscid matrix]

i would use these myself

[obtuse dragon]

ty all

[spare light]

Is it me, or does Smite just feel horrible to use with groups that don't know to hit stuff you got CC'd?

[viscid matrix]

you get used to it 😄 they will learn eventually

[spare light]

Just had a game where I was CC'ing a horde and 3 people were just running ahead

[worn ermine]

"Oh they're prone? Must be dead" runs past and gets swarmed from behind

[spare light]

YUP

[prime elk]

is there any point to using guns on psyker instead of staves?

[jolly cedar]

How important is cleave damage?

[viscid matrix]

Gunker builds are pretty good

[viscid matrix]

it just helps on targets after the first i believe

[naive imp]

This has been my experience with it. Smite enhances groups…but I feel useless with bad groups

[jolly cedar]

hmmm

[spice veldt]

Cleave Damage is a misleading name

[prime elk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1064299403629830246.webp?size=48&name=hmm&quality=lossless

[jolly cedar]

dueling swords dont really cleave

theyre single target right

u wouldnt really use them against hordes that often

[spice veldt]

it's affects armour damage modifiers against Infested/Unarmoured/Flak enemies

it has nothing to do with cleave

[jolly cedar]

so it is important

rip

[prime elk]

i don't really like staves too much, perhaps will try gunker

[jolly cedar]

59% is way too low lol

[spice veldt]

don't worry

it's bugged to not affect Flak

[jolly cedar]

they ever gonna fix that

[spice veldt]

so it's only Infested/Unarmoured adm that scales

maybe

but there is one problem

the mk2 is the cleave variant and you may or may not want to bring it for some hordeclear

so who knows

I don't know the breakpoints on it yet and esp with the coming changes

so we'll have to see

[jolly cedar]

breakpoints are weird

i can two shot crushers in damnation with the stab

but i have to keep up the stacks

[naive imp]

Ima be honest, after using the guns in the game I feel like if you aren’t playing vet or ogryn you’re wasting bullets.

Vet can drop elites/specialists and chain executioner and still put a hurting on monstrosities.

Ogryn kills everything.

[jolly cedar]

from cunning strike

[spice veldt]

yeah

though uncanny strike is easy enough to maintain when there are patrols of them

[naive imp]

I feel like psyker and zealot (if using guns) you shouldn’t pick up ammo tbh. Lol

[spice veldt]

we do have weapons in our other slots

[jolly cedar]

ammo is weird in maelstrom

[spice veldt]

though I always have a melee playstyle, so I don't really care about my ranged option

[jolly cedar]

ive had a couple games where there wasnt a single ammo box halfway into the game

other times its plentiful

[viscid matrix]

Gunker builds are amazing and fun to play, the downside is they use ammo

[neat summit]

@spare light I haven’t really used Warp Rider. No particular reason why other than the grammar on it is sus

[spice veldt]

don't worry, it's actually better than what the description says

[spare light]

It really makes me just want to stick to void, ngl

[spice veldt]

it gives you +10% damage at 0% peril

and the other +10% damage scales with your peril

so you have a passive +10% damage from it at all times

[chrome patrol]

buy or nah? low penetration sucks i guess and im not sure about the blessings flak dmg i okay i guess?

[spice veldt]

low pen is whatevs but uncanny exists so it is what it is

[viscid matrix]

get it, its not terrible, but it will hold you over until you get a better one

[spice veldt]

between a 0% and 80% pen Mk4, you're only losing 6.8% damage at max uncanny strike stacks

[chrome patrol]

what stuff should i change on it?

[spice veldt]

significant if you're not killing a patrol to build stacks

but otherwise fairly nothing burgers

[neat summit]

Yah but FatShark

[viscid matrix]

swap riposte or rampage for uncanny strikes, and swap unarmoured for carapace, and you are set

[spice veldt]

well i've tested it, and so have others

[chrome patrol]

kk thanks ^^

[spice veldt]

so you can either test it out or take my word for how it works

[neat summit]

Does it have any breakpoints of note for BB or Deimos?

[spice veldt]

it's just the old warp unleashed but with the upper bound set to 20% instead of 25%

no idea

since I don't use either

but do know that +damage% doesn't scale very well on Brain Rupture because of a very interesting pecularity it has

[undone carbon]

haaaate em, always shred my toughness on zealot and its the same on psyker

[spice veldt]

so, Brain Rupture's damage is Brain Burst's damage * 1.5x

[neat summit]

I tested it a bunch in psyk and didn’t see any breakpoints on Damnation that stood out

[spice veldt]

if you get +10% damage, then Brain Rupture's damage will be Brain Burst * (1 + 0.5 + 0.1)

it's global damage and at most a 2 node investment for it

no reason to not take it unless you're really short on points

[neat summit]

Yah but I’m running tight on talents

[naive imp]

Yeee

[muted galleon]

Is there an overwhelmingly best Psyker class right now?

[naive imp]

Best void blessings and perks? Obviously warp but the others?

[spice veldt]

as in which side of the tree to go for?

[naive imp]

Ima go out and say that scrier assail does it all

It’s probably our best bossing build and has assail/void for everything else

[muted galleon]

Which build is the best

[muted galleon]

Is void undeniably better than surge? That's what I've been using

I've also seen people say the flamethrower one is the best

[viscid matrix]

tbh we have so many good choices, there is no best overall build
and we have a wide variaty of roles we can fill

[muted galleon]

Wouldn't a carry build be the best because you could do well regardless of the rest of the team?

[viscid matrix]

it all depends on who you are playing with and what role you want to be

[muted galleon]

I want to win while using the least amount of IQ possible

[viscid matrix]

assail, void strike staff, dome shield, warp charges deimos/mk4 duelling

[naive imp]

I haven’t seen anyone say purg is better than surge or void. Ha

[mossy canopy]

Bruh, my first 550 roll on a weapon and its an autogun as psyker, please tell me that works for gunker builds? I don't use the shooty bits often enough to know

[viscid matrix]

its probably the weakest staff right now, still viable in all content

[viscid matrix]

depends on the autogun

Vraks 3 is the only one you really want to use

[muted galleon]

Is there a visual for this build? Like the tree?

[mossy canopy]

Crap.

[viscid matrix]

https://streamable.com/4otvss

[viscid matrix]

uhh gimme a second

whoops i missed a node

this is what i would use 😄

[spare light]

I give up on smite

[potent echo]

Why?

[spare light]

idk, feel way more comfy with void/bb build

It's sad cause it's the reason I was interested in Psyker

[gentle hinge]

brain burst funny

[spare light]

It do be fun

[gentle hinge]

i always run flame staff with it for horde control and brain burst elites and such

[spare light]

Void is the only horde control I need

[potent echo]

I'm now a gunker smite stan

[gentle hinge]

if it works it work

[potent echo]

Some may say staff/smite is fine but anything that competes for peril with your staff feels so clunky

[spare light]

I'd preferably use Smite with EP but you know, it's still bugged

[potent echo]

Yea

[spare light]

and I really don't want to use it then

[potent echo]

I just take gunker smite with DD

[odd siren]

Is the new patch out yet?

[potent echo]

No

[undone carbon]

im currently running shriek with assail and empowered psionics, should I swap to scriers?

also, which aura should I take? i was on the 10% damage one but i cant reach that if I take assail scriers

[gentle hinge]

you do get alot of damage and crit chance but also gain alot of peril with scriers

[austere steeple]

is shred good on duelling sword?

[undone carbon]

do you end up needing to spend a lot of time quelling? shriek is grand for keeping uptime on assail/ an aoe staff

[spice veldt]

some things to note about Scrier's Gaze is that the peril gain ramps up over time, and you can only exit it by being at 100% peril; you can not manually exit out of it by any other method

[gentle hinge]

you could run this if you can take it

[slate oasis]

scrier's gaze is really hard to manage with assail in my experience

[undone carbon]

thatd do it

[gentle hinge]

you do get the ability to pick Peril resist while you grab Solitity

so -5 peril generation

[muted galleon]

Anyone know the quickest way to level up once you get around level 20?

[gentle hinge]

you can get a extra -5 Peril if you go Kinetic Presence or Seer's Presence for your aura

[undone carbon]

i leveled from 16-29 last night, I ran heresies w triple xp curio

[spice veldt]

grind missions that you can reliably finish in a decently fast manner

[muted galleon]

Ah damn I don't have a group good enough to do that difficulty

Randoms are...random

[spice veldt]

xp gain increases roughly linear across difficulties; e.g., you're not getting that much more xp by stepping into damnation from heresy

[undone carbon]

yeah mine was w a duo you have my sympathies

also mael seems p good for xp

[austere steeple]

would this be better to use since you can just kill a horde and get max stacks quick

im using the handcannon crit hit chance build

[spice veldt]

if you really want to lean into scrier's gaze I suppose

but if you're not dipping into Warp Siphon, I wouldn't go down the left branch at all

esp if that's at the cost of True Aim

[austere steeple]

i just dont know where to put my talents tbh

about to just watch a build video now that i hit level 30

[spice veldt]

I consider Warp Siphon's branch to be an all-or-nothing, because Puppet Master and Solidity are very "meh" talents

Kinetic Deflection is useful for chaos spawns/revives and allows you to avoid needing any +stamina at all

True Aim is gr8 for voidstrike and/or assail builds

[austere steeple]

thats what i want

whats true aim

[spice veldt]

it's one of the talents on the bottom-right Branch

you gain a guaranteed ranged crit on 5 weakspot hits

[undone carbon]

man i wish I had like three more points always

[austere steeple]

i dont like kinetic reflection tho

[spice veldt]

y not :(

[austere steeple]

oh thats with your block

okay yeah thats useable

[naive imp]

Best stats for surge staff with warp charges?

[gentle hinge]

kinetic reflection is very good with a force sword

[undone carbon]

are any of the scrier's upgrades worth it?

[austere steeple]

i love the duelling sword

[spice veldt]

you'd probably at least take Precognition with Scrier's

[undone carbon]

yeah makes sense

[spice veldt]

+movement speed is for crack addicts, and the +toughness DR is whatevs (presumably, your build will be 1 node away from a +15 toughness node, which is generally more preferable than that)

[austere steeple]

damn i need materials bad

whats the best plasteel farm just run high difficulty with low intensity

[spice veldt]

ye

materials only scale on difficulty and not on modifiers

so low-int damnation is for people on that plasteel grindset

[austere steeple]

bet anyone wanna join me on this low int damnation>

i got one rn

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/the-flash-dc-running-fast-speedy-gif-14709360

Take movement speed from gaze and DD then play knife.

[austere steeple]

i need to grind to get void staff pronto monto

[severe folio]

probably a spare question, but we cant find to purchase old aquila item can we

[undone carbon]

am i missing anything?

[spice veldt]

this one is one of the strongest talents

[slate oasis]

honestly the best farm is just playing the game imo. I would get burnt out super fast if I was just purely grinding mats

[undone carbon]

KNEW I FORGOT SOMETHING

[spice veldt]

it applies soulblaze in a 4m radius circle

[gentle hinge]

yeah funny talent

[undone carbon]

yeah i had it on prev i just forgot to re-enable it

thought i had too many points spare

[spice veldt]

o ok

good I won't shank you in a back alley for daring to not take it

[undone carbon]

dropped puppet master for it

[spice veldt]

you're getting shanked

[brittle dagger]

What’s the best talent path way for psyker for t4+ missions smite/assail/brain rupture

[austere steeple]

good?

[spice veldt]

it only really takes 2 elite/special kills for things to really ramp up https://streamable.com/o7myk5

[solar sand]

wait no sorry

yeah that one is great

i meant the other one

[spice veldt]

o ok

[solar sand]

spread on death

[spice veldt]

you're free from shankings

[spice veldt]

looks fine

for EP, I'd personally go for the +charge on elite kill one

[pine relic]

Is this the new vet everybody has been talking about?

[solar sand]

this one just, feels so lacking to me

[spice veldt]

the description for it is also peepee poopoo

it's not as bad as before since the cost for wildfire is only 1/30th of your tree instead of 1/6th of your tree, I suppose

some people like it

though its limitations on paper make it seem very eh to me

[undone carbon]

just blasted through all my plasteel to partially fix my curios. whys everything gotta cost so much

[gentle hinge]

feels good on Brain burst to proc random bursts on potential elites

[muted galleon]

What would be the power level of a grey tier weapon that would eventually become 550?

[gentle hinge]

would think 400 but not sure

[undone carbon]

380 is the max stat

[gentle hinge]

well there you go

[undone carbon]

so 380+ two t4 perks +two t4 blessings should do it

[verbal bear]

Is this very pog

I bought it anyways for surge

[gentle hinge]

it will do just fine if you ask me but there is always better

mine aint 100% god tier

[valid talon]

It could be better, but surge is very, very good for voidstrike crit builds

The staff is very good as is, you can use it until you get something better

[verbal bear]

Ye I got a good one myself, just needed surge to roll blessing

tyty

[valid talon]

Melk has never once had anything good for me :c

I just spammed curios from him

[verbal bear]

This is the first good roll I got from melk

2nd if you count my zealot lmao

[gentle hinge]

this is the best Melk sold me

[undone carbon]

brunt never gives me shit on my zealot but i got this in my first dozen rolls

[gentle hinge]

very nice

[undone carbon]

watch hadron turn it into hot garbage but still

[ornate hamlet]

You make it sound like blocking is possible whilst reviving someone. Is it?

[spice veldt]

ye

you automatically block when reviivng

[gentle hinge]

hadron turned my roll into this

meme if any

[undone carbon]

TRAGIC

[spice veldt]

shame

[gentle hinge]

it's kinda funny to mess around in damnation with tho

[spice veldt]

at least 3/4ths of the gun will be good

[gentle hinge]

yeah

[upper galleon]

basically my logic is "is my build using large amounts of warpfire, probably through purge staff? than yes take it"

it being locked behind brain rupture is an... odd choice too

[spice veldt]

i reckon that at least psykinetic's aura and wildfire should swap places

in a thematic sense

[ornate hamlet]

Crazy. I thought you shake off 1 attack whilst ressing someone before taking normal damage.

And this block on ress seems to be all around me, or?

[potent echo]

That will mess with so many builds

[spice veldt]

since psyk aura = CDR on elite/special kill and it would make sense to lead into kinetic presence

get OWNED

[potent echo]

Yea it's 360

[spice veldt]

it's not explained, but even if you're blocking with your melee, you block in a 360 degree area

this extends to revives, which are also 360

[potent echo]

Also pushing works in 360

So you can push a hound from pouncing you even from behind

[ornate hamlet]

I had no idea. O.o I completely ignored blocking so far and just focused on maximising dodges with MK5 duel sword and perks.

[spice veldt]

of course, the block cost is slightly raised if blocking attacks from behind
for most melee weapons, you can basically expect the block cost to be +50% more stamina

[ornate hamlet]

So investing in stamina is actually worth it?

[spice veldt]

not really except for chaos spawns or if you're not taking kinetic deflection

[potent echo]

Revive speed*

[spice veldt]

+stam does help with revives as well

[past brook]

how would one change this voidstrike

[spice veldt]

but kinetic deflection is decently easy to get to so that usually eliminates the need for +stam completely

[naive imp]

best perks/blessings for surge staff go ggo

[ornate hamlet]

I always play with high Peril. I try to avoid venting to 0% like most Psykers, because I want to maintain more of Warp Rider.

So kinetic deflection probably rarely does anything. Not like I have a choice. I want True Aim.

[spice veldt]

takes roughly 2.25 seconds to quell from 100% to 0% with an 80% quell speed staff so not that bad

[gentle hinge]

plus kinetic deflection combos nicely with Deflector on Force Swords

[spice veldt]

in addition, you always get a +10% damage bonus from warp rider at 0% peril

[slate oasis]

I'd change sustained fire to warp flurry and upgrade transfer peril to tier 4

[spice veldt]

of course, if you're hitting a breakpoint, it's convenient to maintain that high peril

[ornate hamlet]

Knowing all this AND that blocks are 360 (is it also 360 for ranged attacks with Deflector?) I feel like investing into stamina is much more useful than leaning so heavily into mobility.

[spice veldt]

if you need to revive and you're too pressured to quell, you can also just spam pushes with your melee which usually prevents enemies from attacking you and you can then go to revive after passive quelling kicks in

[potent echo]

Arco do you know if sustained fire boosts void RMB?

[ornate hamlet]

Why did I never notice that pushing is 360? This is a huge revelation.

[spice veldt]

pre-patch, it didn't work last time I tested

not sure nowadays

[potent echo]

F

[spice veldt]

is gr8

[naive imp]

i've been playing with a surge staff psyker and it's the dumbest thing i've seen

[spice veldt]

the game is quite lenient in mechanics like these which is quite nice

[ornate hamlet]

Arcotash, does the Deflector of force swords also block ranged attacks 360? 😮

[past brook]

ah, the long journey to finding those damn blessings to begin with

[spice veldt]

no sadly

[potent echo]

Sadly no

[ornate hamlet]

Aw. 😦

[spice veldt]

psykers are the most oppressed 😔

[past brook]

remember, they took away your deflector during revive

[potent echo]

Wait it's no longer there?

[spice veldt]

deflector during revive was so funny

because that was also the time period where Kinetic Deflection didn't stop the passive quelling of peril

[potent echo]

Bruh deflector L

[ornate hamlet]

I am always amazed with how much my Ogre and Zealot teammates get away with. They seem to be able to take all punishment.

[spice veldt]

and reviving counted as holding a non-force weapon, so quelling was ridiculously fast

[austere steeple]

@spice veldt that good for a 20 min run?

[spice veldt]

so you could just spam revives and be immortal

[spice veldt]

looks gucci

[potent echo]

700 wow

[spice veldt]

there's 805 max plasteel on damn

so that's a pretty good catch

[austere steeple]

yes sir this build is nice

i spam slide around and explore fast asf

[potent echo]

Why is there only 3 people in the end screen

[spice veldt]

he ate the 4th one

[potent echo]

Understandable

[austere steeple]

had a decent team all i really need is a good ogryn

[spice veldt]

yeah zealot/ogryn's DR is on the level of quite cracked

[austere steeple]

yeah homie dc'd at the boss fight lmao

[potent echo]

F for their plasteel

[ornate hamlet]

At least I have my +50% dodge iframe perk. 😦

[austere steeple]

lets see if i get a good void staff

[spice veldt]

the thing is that talent might not work as expected

[sonic coral]

is there any point to blazing spirit on an illisi

[spice veldt]

from other testers, its effect is either unnoticeable or imperceivable, so the main thing is having one extra dodge

[sonic coral]

granted the rest of this particular build does involve soulblaze, outside of the staff which is trauma

[primal radish]

Have they addressed the warp siphon/scriers bug? Scriers CD doesn't reduce from warp charges and I don't see a fix in patch notes

But they fixed shield warp charges.. Hmm

[austere steeple]

i shouldnt care about blst radius right?

if im using asail for crowd control

[spice veldt]

blast radius doesn't change basically anything for damage for the voidstrike

[austere steeple]

just the splash

[spice veldt]

it only scales the size of the outer explosion (low damage) and the size of the epicentre (has a cleave limit)

[austere steeple]

ah bet

so yeah i dont need that since this is my heavy hitter

[unique mist]

Dont discredit voidstrike's crowd control capabilities

[austere steeple]

im not

[unique mist]

But also yeah it isnt that important of a stat

[austere steeple]

ive just been using asail so long it just works to clear the hords

but when i gotta reload them i whip this void hoe out and get to cracking

[unique mist]

as an assail psyker I use voidstrike for a majority of my horde clear lol

dont need to whip out assail for a close range horde if the horde never gets close

[muted galleon]

Then why use assail?

[unique mist]

It is insanely good for camping spawn doors, better than assail

[unique mist]

best of the blitzes

its a great panic button

I dont take the regen node either

[muted galleon]

Is this good enough to get through the hardest stuff out rn? (After I upgrade)

[echo turtle]

It's good to toss at stuff just outa reach since the void strike takes a bit to charge

[spice veldt]

or stuff that's spread out

[unique mist]

just dump assail to make space to retreat, to push into melee, thin a horde, get a rez etc

[austere steeple]

another low intensity damnnation whos in

👀

[muted galleon]

You speed running it or smth?

[sonic coral]

is it possible to get weakspot kills with the trauma RMB?

[austere steeple]

farming plasteel

so yeah

like 20-25 min runs

[spice veldt]

despite trauma having Transfer Peril, no it can't

[sonic coral]

mega bummer, alright

[spice veldt]

actually troll that they gave Transfer Peril to trauma

sooooo god damn troll

[sonic coral]

so cruel fortune is basically useless on RMB for trauma

[muted galleon]

Is hp% or toughness% better for Psyker?

[spice veldt]

ye

[unique mist]

same as surge right

[spice veldt]

surge doesn't have transfer peril fortunately

[muted galleon]

On curios

[spice veldt]

only Trauma and Voidstrike have it

[unique mist]

the blessing

not the staff

[spice veldt]

o, yeah it doesn't work

double troll

[unique mist]

yeah

[spice veldt]

prolly hp esp if starting out

[muted galleon]

Is transfer peril good on void staff?

[unique mist]

Its fine

fun with warp flurry

[spice veldt]

I would take at least 1x hp as my main perk and slap 3x +toughness as my side perks

[unique mist]

but surge blessing + warp nexus outclasses it by a lot

[inner pilot]

this pretty alright?

def gonna swap barrage maybe

sorry if the screenshot looks weird im on a tv

[viscid matrix]

swap terrefy for warp nexus and then swap stamina for flak

[slate oasis]

^ seconded. literally the exact thing I was typing lol

[pliant tendon]

barrage is so good though

[viscid matrix]

it really isnt on purga staff, just lighting enemies on fire has the same effect, plus you stagger enemies that are in melee range of you, even the ones behind you

[valid talon]

I mean if ur not level 30

[viscid matrix]

even when 30, its a decent purga staff

[ornate hamlet]

what do i change on this

upgrade flak armoured?

or change it

[distant prawn]

Omg how did you get 80%

[ornate hamlet]

wat

[distant prawn]

Damage and burn

[ornate hamlet]

idk luck

what do i change flak armoured to

[valid talon]

Depends on your build

[ornate hamlet]

its just a soulflame build

[valid talon]

Are you running a crit build?

[ornate hamlet]

i mean

idk

im using brain rupture and the yell

and soul charges

basically all left

[bold flint]

what does crit even do for purg

[ornate hamlet]

double the burn

[valid talon]

Make fire more burnier

[inner pilot]

does purg do crit like I think it does

ie each damage proc counts as a chance for crit?

so just an absurd amount of crit

[spice veldt]

the direct damage crits yeah

and each instance of it

but the crit dmg multiplier on purg is peepee poopoo

so crits are primarily for the fact that they apply two soulblaze stacks instead of 1

[undone carbon]

with the little plasteel ive managed to scrounge hadron has given it crit dmg and precog 3 :/

[valid talon]

Is uncanny strike good on the mk4 dueling sword?

[spice veldt]

very

[ornate hamlet]

WAT DO I CHANGE FLAK DAMAGE TO

[spice veldt]

the must-have blessing for it

[valid talon]

SHIET your choice bro

I'd say crit damage?

[spice veldt]

no

[valid talon]

Seems like your staff is built for crit

Wait actually its a purge staff

[bold flint]

you could change it to unyielding for some boss damage

[slate oasis]

if crit build then just upgrade flak, if not a crit build then maybe change increased crit to maniac. it's basically great as is so just whatever you prefer

[valid talon]

What else is good on the MK4 duel sword?

[spice veldt]

you could make an argument for the other 4 blessings really

[valid talon]

I personally hate the asthetics of it, but I heard its good

[spice veldt]

I prefer Shred to get some nice crusher two-shots and I run Trauma, so there's not much opportunities for me to proc dodge blessings

Rampage is bugged to give 2x damage

and you can do memes like this https://streamable.com/0xpve1

etcetera

[valid talon]

Really? thats pretty stronk

The emperor must want me to use this damn thing because these seem like some good rolls

[spice veldt]

looking very good

[valid talon]

Not sure how to build them though, never focused on the duel sword

[inner pilot]

duel sword is so badass

reminds me of salts rapier so i use it and it only

[spice veldt]

mk4 is the single-target

the other two duelling swords are unusually worse, though the mk2 is finally getting a cleave buff on its 2nd heavy

mk2 being the cleave variant

idk what the mk5 is supposed to be besides having mildly better defensive stats (dodge/block/push)

[slate oasis]

the mk5 is my favorite of the dueling swords

[valid talon]

IDK why but I just havent been able to get the hang of its playstyle, and dont like its look

I barely use melee as a psyker

[strong gulch]

lol

[spice veldt]

yeah if you already have single-target on your ranged, then mk4 is whatevs

roll with whatev your build desires

[spice veldt]

barrage

broccoli

[strong gulch]

brick

[olive ember]

@near wyvern out of curiosity? Why does your purge build use assail (besides it being overtuned)? Wouldn't it make more sense to take BB for long range anti armor since purge already does horde clear rly well

[austere steeple]

god it feels so fucking good to actually be able to do damage

just a couple hours ago i was stuggling on malice now im speedrunning damn nation 🙂

[slate oasis]

the emperor has smiled upon me

[austere steeple]

guuuuuuuuuuuaaaaaaaaaaaaah

yeah i dont think mines good

[valid talon]

I wish I had surge

My noob ass has to make do with flurry 3 for now

[austere steeple]

felt this

lmao

[ornate hamlet]

I have made so many Voidstrikes and never even saw Surge appear. Is it that rare?

[valid talon]

T4 skills are rare in general, then you gotta roll this particular skill

[slate oasis]

I didn't see it for ages and then randomly got it like 4 time in a row

it and T4 nexus feel like the rarest staff blessings to me

[olive ember]

that actually used to be decent

depending on how important criting on voidstrike is once it gets nerfed

that might actually become the meta blessings again

[valid talon]

What the fuck is the balancing on this dueling sword lmao

Quick stab: 50 damage sure

Quick stab but pull your arm back a little: 600 damage

[olive ember]

the deimos exists, which basically 2 shots mutants and has better horde clear as well as ability to block bullets etc. and probably better blessings

[thorn cedar]

gotta put ur elbow into it

[olive ember]

so in order for dswords to like not be shit they buffed the fuck out of its heavy damage

[slate oasis]

love one-shotting mutants on damnation with a toothpick

[valid talon]

What would hurt more: a .75 caliber explosive round or a poky metal toothpick wielded by a nerd

[viscid matrix]

metal toothpick that goes right into the brainpan squish

[valid talon]

I love poking someone with a metal sliver so hard their entire head explodes

[naive imp]

what do ichange?

[unique mist]

Run n gun -> warp nexus
elites-> carapace

[viscid matrix]

run n gun to warp nexus
Elites to unyeilding or carapace

unyeilding will help with boss damage

[naive imp]

which would you do?

boss it is

lol

[unique mist]

carapace imo

[valid talon]

When are they gonna nerf this stupid dueling sword, this thing makes zealot look like a wimp

[viscid matrix]

we wreck those anyway wiht dueling sword

[valid talon]

Imagine having trouble with rangers or caparice lmao

[unique mist]

true

[viscid matrix]

thunder hammer can 1 shot demonhost

[valid talon]

Yeah but you gotta make your entire build around that, and be pretty skilled, AND it comes with many drawbacks

Dueling sword you barely gotta do squad

[naive imp]

what perks am i looking for on dueling sword? and which one? @viscid matrix

boom

got warp my first staff i crafted

HA

[viscid matrix]

i currently am using this

[valid talon]

Is shred good on dueling sword?

I played with it a bit and I usually just whip it out to stab a special a couple times

[viscid matrix]

i think its worth it

[static mantle]

What does this guy mean it can block bullets?

[valid talon]

What about precognition?

[static mantle]

Thank you

[spice veldt]

if you're not dinking crushers then sure it's prob not worth it

[viscid matrix]

that is a option, i dont usualy use it

[valid talon]

It ups finesse which ups weakspot damage, which is a lot on the dueling sword

Also why unyielding enemies?

[viscid matrix]

with my one, i had a choice keep a shit perk and swap shred to another blessing or change th 2 shit perks, i decided to stick with shred

[viscid matrix]

because it makes killing assassination targets easier 😄 also stabbing plague ogryns in the head is satisfying

[slender matrix]

1,400 Aquilas for a Trader's hat. Whyyyy 😭

Pirate wizard sounded dope.

[unique mist]

The feather has jiggle physics

[strong gulch]

Yes spensive.

[thorn cedar]

totes worth

liquidate your portfolio

[slender matrix]

So it cost almost as much as the entire trader's set?! lol

[thorn cedar]

buy feathered hats

[viscid matrix]

i just wish we had more options for cosmetics ingame, the ones we have are all recolours of the redacted penances

[slate oasis]

they had to know a lot of people would want it so they made it pricey

[valid talon]

If ur gonna whale for a head buy either the bionic eye or the gloriana hood for your traders set

[strong gulch]

That's the only reason I played huntsman kruber in VT2.

[wispy pike]

Fancy hats

[thorn cedar]

magikarp kap is pretty close 2nd

[unique mist]

I got that set but not the hood, didn't like it that much

[slender matrix]

Looks good. The hat just looks dope af. They knew what they were doing. xD

[strong gulch]

The black head cloth goes with more items.

[valid talon]

Yeah thats why they made it 1.4k lmao

[spark elm]

Can you still earn them? I mean we can access the redacted lists so do they still trigger if fulfilled?

[unique mist]

I like the golden skull one lol

[viscid matrix]

you can

but the ingame cosmetics are all just recolours of the penance ones

[unique mist]

yeah

[austere steeple]

i honestly just use my sword like 60% of the time

it just feels so good

[tender terrace]

ok then armory, i see you

[austere steeple]

oh shhiiii

[distant prawn]

Nice

[tender terrace]

ive had some pretty crazy dubs today

[austere steeple]

hmmmm idk

i dodge alot so i guess its good

[late night]

Melee Weapons
Macabbian Mk IV Duelling Sword (single target DPS, mobility)
Deimos Mk IV Blaze Force Sword (single target burst, infinite dodges)
Catachan Mk IV "Devil's Claw" Sword (horde clear)

All the weapons above are capable of dispatching Mutants with sufficient speed. In addition, they excel at either clearing masses of enemies (Devil's Claw) or providing excellent damage to a few targets (DS4 and Deimos).

Ranged Weapons
Equinox Mk IV Voidstrike Force Staff (anti everything)
Equinox Mk III Trauma Staff as "Flame Trauma" (very strong control and good damage)
Vraks Mk III Headhunter Autogun (anti-monstrosity, anti-elite, anti-special)

which of these are getting nerfed

and might not be worth vrafting

just dont want to waste plasteel

[austere steeple]

which of these or all of those?

[late night]

which

[austere steeple]

i think void is the only one and headhunter is getting a buff

but void staffs neft isnt bad at all from what ive heard

[late night]

void going to be bad?

oh ok so still worth craft

[austere steeple]

yeah for sure

im prolly just gonna farm and stack on mats till the patch

[slate oasis]

afaik voidstrike is having its damage to carapace reduced

[brazen warren]

carapace damage, the one thing psyker cannot deal with safely without VS or hyper specialization into BB

[viscid matrix]

none of them will be crippled into obscurity

[brazen warren]

even headhunter is kinda crap against carapace

forgot surge, but it is not as good as VS at that role

[viscid matrix]

.... Duelling sword can easily deal with carapace

[spice veldt]

psyker is pretty cracked against carapace

[brazen warren]

"safely" was what I am looking for, and dueling sword does not meet my horde clear needs

[spice veldt]

duelling swords being one of our best melees and having uncanny strike

and that with perilous combustion

if it doesn't fit into your build then sure

we don't really have a pre-patch bolter option sadly

[viscid matrix]

its job isnt to kill hordes, its job is to kill priority targets very quickly