psyker-class

[potent echo]

Patch 14 it will be changed to 5%

[still hearth]

Which is silly

[shy prairie]

you will never hear a vc but them

[potent echo]

Critical bleed zealot gets infinite book

[still hearth]

Like even 10% CDR I'd run just for the dodge ranged on crit node

[potent echo]

Fun way to play

[valid talon]

Guess i'll swtch for now then

[strong gulch]

I have one similar for revolver.

[valid talon]

17.5% cooldown reduction teamwide is pretty broken

[still hearth]

It is pretty huge

[shy prairie]

it's.. free

free cooldown

[still hearth]

Almost instant CD on shout too

With charges

Since I'm pretty sure it's additive

[potent echo]

It's CDs so fast I can't even build up enough peril

[shy prairie]

should create a door gunner build with vent + voidstrike

[still hearth]

With 20% CDR mission mod

I think I've had like 6s CD on ult?

[shy prairie]

warp charges and peril reduction.. infinite balls

[still hearth]

[shy prairie]

[potent echo]

Balls are infinite

Quelling is so quick with the new talent I just run 30% toughness on warpcharge gain

[gentle portal]

Which dueling sword mk is best, is there consensus? Or all pretty good?

[valid talon]

I think it depends on the animations, but most people seem to like the mk4

[spice veldt]

mk4

why are the heavies of the mk4 noticeably better than the rest? only god knows

[valid talon]

What do you guys think of this build? Also why are youtube darktide builds so shit lmao

[potent echo]

MkV makes you dodge really far but I really miss MKIV's damage

[valid talon]

Like as soon as I learned shit in this game I realise they're kinda terrible

[potent echo]

I only trust jsat

[thin finch]

it's a consensus that the MK4 is the best based on sheer damage and the MK5 is the less good because it's main advantage is movement

[still hearth]

What weapons?

[valid talon]

Voidstrike and probably dueling sword I GUESS

[still hearth]

I'd remove uhh

[bleak tulip]

whoever made this is very scared of losing toughness

[valid talon]

I dont really like the dueling sword but everyone seems to gush over it for the stabbing

[bleak tulip]

when they really dont have to be

[still hearth]

Peril back on kill and toughness on peril gain

Get toughness on crits and dodge on crits

[strong gulch]

What r you pairing with it?

2 points away and you can set a horde on fire with your shout.

[potent echo]

I have the same suggestion

[valid talon]

The toughness is mostly just to get to perilous combustion and perfect timing

[bleak tulip]

also for the love of the gods get creeping flames if you taking shriek what the hell

[spice veldt]

don't worry soulstealer is also a busted pick

[potent echo]

I rather take 5% on crit

[valid talon]

I'll probably replace warp expendature with mettle

[strong gulch]

True. High stats in both mobility and defenses will make you yeet yourself off a cliff.

[pale pilot]

hmm. can you vent with scriers gaze? is it worthwhile to combine that with other perils stuff or is it just for use with mundane weapons?

[still hearth]

But yeah soulstealer all you need rn

[still hearth]

Yes but it will eventually outpace venting

[valid talon]

I think I have warp expenditure due to wanting battle meditation

[still hearth]

And venting means you're not killing stuff

[valid talon]

10% quell 10% of the time doesnt seem like much but its good for hordes

[still hearth]

It's not as good now

[potent echo]

It's annoying for creeping flames

[still hearth]

Since the chain blessings no longer drop

So you can just quell

[spice veldt]

and esp if running Solidity

[potent echo]

Sometimes I want to full blast at >80% peril but randomly my peril drops

[valid talon]

It was kinda hard to make this decision, but its mostly to get to true aim and because I want to preserve my warp charges for their passive buffs

[shy prairie]

scriers accumulation is delayed by murder

[bleak tulip]

imo the only way to build this first area

everything else is superfluous

[still hearth]

Unless you take all of them like me

[potent echo]

Also I wished they would let us shoot the charged void ball at 100% peril, it just goes into warp explosion now

[still hearth]

Mohahaha

[valid talon]

No battle meditation?

[bleak tulip]

I would bet even after the nerf

no as people said battle meditation is useless and actively can hinder you

well useless is harsh

[still hearth]

I also like the uhh

[bleak tulip]

but not nearly as useful anymore

[potent echo]

I don't like it

[unique mist]

nahh i need the points

[still hearth]

Quell for toughness still

[unique mist]

some of my builds are greedy asf

[shy prairie]

quietude my beloved

[valid talon]

How about this then?

[bleak tulip]

wildfire is meh

[valid talon]

I dont really like quietude compared to soulstealer

[unique mist]

ooft unupgraded venting shriek is a pain

[shy prairie]

I use it with scriers just incase I need some toughness back to charge for the guns once again

[valid talon]

I wont be using it much to preserve warp charges

[still hearth]

Base Shriek is fine

[valid talon]

Also need the points for true aim

[shy prairie]

play psyker like a cavalry officer in crimea

[valid talon]

To get them sweet crits more often

[unique mist]

but also running toughness on warp charge + warp charge on soulblazed kill kinda fills all my toughness needs paired with soulstealer

[valid talon]

Mainly just to dump in emergencies or if a horde is right up in me and I cant melee for some reason

[potent echo]

You don't need wildfire for void

[bleak tulip]

more like this, cut a point somewhere for warp battery I guess but I low key think you cant, and this is assuming you actually wanna run smite which imo is also mid

[valid talon]

I guess this is an option for a build that uses shriek more often

[unique mist]

IMO running smite i would go toughness on peril gen so you can gain toughness while using smite

[still hearth]

I'd definitely rather run warp battery

[bleak tulip]

warp rider is a no brainer, true aim is pretty much mandatory with surge void

[valid talon]

Might not be a bad idea since shit gets hairy

[unique mist]

but also smite can't crit

[valid talon]

But I kinda want bigger passives from warp battery

[still hearth]

Even if the blaze shout is nutty

[bleak tulip]

I guess cut perfect timng in favor of warp battery?

[valid talon]

NAW perfect timing is great

[potent echo]

Perfect timing is usually overkill

[valid talon]

If you aim it right you can easily get multiple headshots per hit

[potent echo]

Prenerf anyway

[potent echo]

That's true aim

[valid talon]

IDK my crit chance is only 13% base

With charging the voidstrike thats actually pretty low

[shy prairie]

nexus surge..

[valid talon]

Even at max thats like a 30% crit chance after blessings

[bleak tulip]

imo creeping flames is non negotiable, warp rider and true aim are, and soulstealer and perilous combustion are arguably the best two talents we get

so there isnt a ton of space

[valid talon]

Meanwhile if youre good with true aim you can get a free crit every 2-3 blasts

Which doubles your crit rate

[bleak tulip]

you just get it without being good tbh

just aim roughly head height

[valid talon]

Yeah pretty much

[bleak tulip]

charge 20% on hordes

and boom

[valid talon]

The voidstrike projectile is big

[shy prairie]

big ball

[still hearth]

It's not very big

[shy prairie]

get two of em

[valid talon]

Warp rider is 10-20% more damage

[bleak tulip]

yea

[whole oxide]

0 damage taken auric maelstrom, trauma definitely not best staff :>

[valid talon]

Which is a pretty beefy bonus

[bleak tulip]

which is why its mandatory

[still hearth]

Warp Rider is definitely silly

[valid talon]

IDK about creeping flames though

[still hearth]

Meanwhile I can't use it without dying constantly and idk how

[valid talon]

Good for a horde on your ass

But I cant find the points for it

[still hearth]

It deletes hordes and shooters which is nice yesh

But I do agree it's not required

Otherwise we'd never see other Psykers

Just spitting fire

[royal granite]

patch isn't out yet is it?

[strong gulch]

Even with quell cancel?

[bleak tulip]

I run this right now and I wish there was that one extra point to get warp batt but there isnt really

[still hearth]

Oh right I forgot about that mechanic lmao

[strong gulch]

not yet. just tentative notes

[royal granite]

bleh

[bleak tulip]

this is more lenient than DD, and still gets you 16% damage

[still hearth]

What weapons?

[valid talon]

BRO ur not using psychkinetic aura??

[bleak tulip]

d4 void

[valid talon]

That shits amazing

[still hearth]

Hmm

[bleak tulip]

cd is better imo

[still hearth]

I mean you could drop perilous but

[bleak tulip]

I dont need more elite damage tbh

[still hearth]

Perilous is so good when it pops

Also 17.5% cdr

Lol

[bleak tulip]

also helps your team more imo+

[valid talon]

I mean all you do is exchange it for mind in motion

Which I feel isnt the most necessary, at least for me

And assail

Which Is good I guess but I mainly use the voidstrike

[bleak tulip]

assail is still better naked than smite

[still hearth]

Disagree

[valid talon]

I dont use smite, only to stun in hard situations

[still hearth]

Smite naked is OP

[valid talon]

Even a short burst with smite will knock down hordes

[shy prairie]

I cast sword

[frail sand]

how do u use trauma, it feels so awkward

[still hearth]

(if you use it 1% of the time)

[valid talon]

Which is most of its usage

[bleak tulip]

slide. a lot

[whole oxide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eykrcVWj-1E

[valid talon]

You can also buy a few seconds in a pinch

[shy prairie]

aim at their feet. like quake. and slide.

[potent echo]

You play on overwatch during hordes

[valid talon]

Which is sometimes enough for a zealot to get in there and slice shit

[potent echo]

Make sure no one touches you or your team

No need to focus on killing as many targets as possible

[frail sand]

interesting, thanks

[bleak tulip]

also stacks positively with creeping which helps

[shy prairie]

the trauma staff turns into a gmg with the charge reductions..

[potent echo]

When fighting shooters well

Get used to the janky aiming

Also make sure you trauma has high enough damage to oneshot all trash

[bleak tulip]

and now that creeping isnt influences by warp charges anymore I dont value warp batt as highly

[potent echo]

If not that makes it kinda bad

[whole oxide]

once you get used to it, you appreciate the jank. being able to indirectly fire over obstacles is a real benefit

[still hearth]

8% damage is 8% damage

[valid talon]

And 12% peril reduction

[bleak tulip]

sure but where do I take the point from

[valid talon]

Not a small couple variables

[still hearth]

I actually never run peril reduction anymore

[potent echo]

I usually can't build up to 6 charges in between shrieks

[still hearth]

Well sometimes

But most builds like peril

[potent echo]

Because of all the cdr

[bleak tulip]

well I dont need the toughness regen so why not

[still hearth]

So I'd rather control it

[valid talon]

Thats why my build focuses on not using shriek much

Leaving it in its base state

[potent echo]

But creeping flames is so good

[valid talon]

Mostly as a bailout

[bleak tulip]

at least reduction doesnt randomly lower your peril by like 30%

when you wanna shout

[valid talon]

Yeah it is

[potent echo]

Like really the best part about psyker

[valid talon]

The alt to this build is remove wildfire and battery and add that to shriek

[potent echo]

Save hounded people through walls

[valid talon]

Plays very differently despite a small change

[potent echo]

Well you can do that without creeping flames

[bleak tulip]

I once got a 97 killstreak by just shouting at a downed vet and returning to my duties

[strong gulch]

Slotted stairs and some grates will feck with trauma tho.

Outside of that, getting into a quell cancel rhythm can keep stuff on lock down and you safe.

[bleak tulip]

creeping is goat

[potent echo]

Yea you can lockdown two directions at once

Or kill a room of shooters

[still hearth]

I still want to run a 4 shout Psyker run sometime

4 Shout Smite only run

Lets go

[potent echo]

4 smite

My computer can only handle so many explosions

[bleak tulip]

legit the only reason I would consider taking smite is because you can trade mind in motion for psykinetics aura

the infinite value upgrade

[bleak tulip]

on that note, you cant run it with assail 😔

[potent echo]

Smite has the funny handwave motion where you make heretics sit down

[bleak tulip]

I would, believe me

I am an OG mind in motion hater

[valid talon]

Just ditch assail lmao, you got your voidstaff

[potent echo]

Mind in motion is so pointless

[bleak tulip]

I mean yeah but also I dont like BB and smite

assail is still value

[valid talon]

Then dont use em, you probably wont in this build 99% of the time

[still hearth]

Just use smite when it's clutch

[valid talon]

I only use smite to get out of hairy situations

Rest of the time its voidstrike baby

[still hearth]

Though Void is a bit too good rn so

[whole oxide]

you don't understand, blitz is supposed to be used for 99% of the mission, right? just like grenades

[valid talon]

And even then if you run the creeping flames variant of my build you wont ever need to touch it lol

Just shriek when you're in hot shit

[bleak tulip]

I mean imma give it a shot I guess, I use assail so little now that its kind of pointless to have, its just nice to have when you wanna kill a bunch of spread out trash

I cant see my self liking smite tho

[valid talon]

I dont like it either

But I gotta take it to progress down the tree

[potent echo]

Smite has fast swap stagger potential, but so does any staff soooo

[whole oxide]

smite really depends on what weapons you have, its kinda pointless with some, nice with others

[strong gulch]

Assail has quick swap stagger on most things too.

[potent echo]

I run smite when I play gunker

[bleak tulip]

also I really fuckin hate how smite just shits on your whole team's frames

[potent echo]

Because the other two blitz and kind of irrelevant with a vraks3 in hand

[valid talon]

Cull those with weak machine spirits

[still hearth]

Their fault for not running on the lowest graphics

[potent echo]

Also I need a fast way to charge peril for warp rider

[strong gulch]

I like assail when I'm missing a CC component in my weapons or I'm boosting surge staff.

[still hearth]

I literally don't notice a difference

[spice veldt]

not real gamers like me

[bleak tulip]

I like my game to not look like ass thanks

I am not arco

speak of the devil

[still hearth]

It looks perfectly fine

[spice veldt]

don't talk to me or my graphics ever again

[bleak tulip]

that's just like, your opinion, ma'am

[potent echo]

Can you even call that graphics

[bleak tulip]

do the prelim notes say anything about smite smoke

[night zephyr]

for crit trauma build what talents do you all run with it

[bleak tulip]

prob the same as void tbh

maybe get rid of true aim

because you wont trigger it much

[bleak tulip]

maybe this?

[potent echo]

You don't need true aim at all for that

[bleak tulip]

yeah

[potent echo]

Ew assail

[bleak tulip]

a lot more leeway, kin deflect is good but not mandatory

good for pubs c:

I havent run blaze trauma this patch tho

so this is theoretical

I guess if you really wanna meme it, you can get the true strike charges with assail and switch to trauma to get a guaranteed blaze

but thats way too much work for my pea brain

[potent echo]

It's too much work for something you can already do by blasting more

[still hearth]

@plucky flax runs blaze trauma

[bleak tulip]

pretty much

[still hearth]

A lot

But probably not with true aim

[bleak tulip]

yeah

[potent echo]

Also 2 precious talent points

[bleak tulip]

I doubt it

[spice veldt]

i'm a blazing spirit + rending shockwave user

true aim babeeee

[bleak tulip]

why am I not surprised

apm king

[spice veldt]

WOW

oh ok

[bleak tulip]

[spice veldt]

carry on

[lofty pumice]

Hey, it works for the vet with a billion Kraks in their back pocket

[night zephyr]

what is true aim?

[potent echo]

They lay one krak grenade every 60seconds

[night zephyr]

also what about

[still hearth]

No

[viscid matrix]

really really good for Gunker and Melee Psyker builds

[night zephyr]

why

[still hearth]

It's scary

[bleak tulip]

you never get full value out of it while using staves

[strong gulch]

This is my current blazing trauma tree but it's also set up for dueling sword and IF I ever remember that I have assail.

[night zephyr]

its halloween

[viscid matrix]

you might be able to with peril transfer and warp flurry on Void staff

[potent echo]

Imma go ham!

20% extra crit chance

[night zephyr]

excuse me, you weakshot with trauma XD

[still hearth]

That's a lot or things I wouldn't be running personally

But my style is probably very different

DD is bad with trauma though

[spice veldt]

weakspot hits on any weapon, including melee

[still hearth]

It doesn't really get the full bonus

[spice veldt]

yeah only psychopaths run DD with trauma who does that

[night zephyr]

wait do you do it with assail then XD thats nutty

[viscid matrix]

i run all but peril toughness at the start, and i grab the 15 toughness at bot mid

[night zephyr]

whats DD?

[potent echo]

J_sat says 15% damage is value enough

[viscid matrix]

Disrupt Destiny right side keystone

[bleak tulip]

think you mean transfer peril but yeah maybe?

still wouldnt run it personally

[pale pilot]

so what has depreciated kinetic flayer in the rework?

[viscid matrix]

its fun to play, but risky as hell cause no peril dump

[still hearth]

I see well how can I disagree

[viscid matrix]

its just as powerful as it has always been

[potent echo]

But he mainly plays true solo/duo so DD is good

[still hearth]

No it's worse?

[potent echo]

In his cass

[spice veldt]

kinetic flayer used to help your warp charge economy

[strong gulch]

It's Fine™️. DD is more for gotta fast running pokes and assail.

This changes a lot. I don't even have keystones have the time.

[spice veldt]

but now it's just for damage and it's just peepee poopoo for that purpose since it retained the same 15-second cooldown

[still hearth]

Go for it

[viscid matrix]

its exactly the same as before, 10% chance to BB on hit with 15s cooldown

[still hearth]

Warp charges

It was only ever good for that

The lack of control is dumb

[stable silo]

thats it im going back to my gunker with shredder bullet spam

[night zephyr]

so..... blaze staff

[potent echo]

Or you run recon lasgun psyker (don't)

[still hearth]

The DPS is tiny so outside of lucky oneshots it's meh

[still hearth]

What the fuck am I looking at

[spice veldt]

no more funny crusher oneshots with kinetic flayer 😔

[viscid matrix]

you need that bottom left node for soulblaze gives warp charges

[potent echo]

Blaze staff like purgatus or trauma

[still hearth]

Scrier with warp charges

??

Out

Delete this

[pale pilot]

ah. right because warp charges used to require BB to proc and that was the only way to get them unless you took the thing that made kills have a low percent chance to give charges

[night zephyr]

so here my meme out, -56% peril gen

[viscid matrix]

it doesnt even slow down scriers, since when you use scriers it dumps all warp charges

read warp siphon

[bleak tulip]

when you press scrier you lose the charges tho

[night zephyr]

u know thats right, but if you get them all back before its done

[still hearth]

Only if you get they kills after you activate scrier and it also doesn't give the CDR rn

[night zephyr]

and also infinite scrier

[summer prairie]

you use it when you have 4-6 elites right in front of you and then nuke them quick

[potent echo]

It doesnt go into cooldown until scrier ends

Peepoopee

[stable silo]

see the trick is to set everything on fire quickly then scriers and start swinging getting full stax in a horde

[still hearth]

I mean it's a nice theory

But the bugs

Fuck it over

[night zephyr]

only 15 secs

[stable silo]

no guns only fire and swords the way nature intended

[potent echo]

That's not infinite

[still hearth]

Nope

[night zephyr]

100% true

[potent echo]

Infinite is executioner stance next patch

[still hearth]

Warp Charges don't give scrier CDR

[potent echo]

Now that stalkers are priority targets

It only took them 1 year

[still hearth]

When it does work it'll be nice

[night zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/noooo-star-wars-darth-vader-gif-8348766

[still hearth]

Warp charge recycling scrier will be interesting

[summer prairie]

if it worked properly, you could also have psykinetic aura and cdr aura and possibly get it off cooldown before it ends

[still hearth]

That's a pretty big combo

[broken quail]

Honestly what even is the cleave damage stat on dueling sword. Ik the push attack has a decent cleave of 6 but the damage on that is honestly too low for me to care about the cleave, and the push will stun them on its own

[plucky flax]

Bullets on top of shards? Seems op?

[potent echo]

Level 1000

Mans playing darktide

[plucky flax]

My total levels across 4 characters is over 1000 too.

[bleak tulip]

man's playing darktide

[potent echo]

What's to say his other classes not also level 1000

[plucky flax]

I've only seen him play psyker so.

I think he's ultra psyker main.

[potent echo]

Scary

[plucky flax]

I know a guy with like nearly 4000 total level.

[potent echo]

My total level is around 500-600

[broken quail]

I wonder what my true levels are, just installed of the oh do I even want to know

[potent echo]

And I'm already at 600hours darktide

[still hearth]

My total level is only like 300

At 550+ hours

[bleak tulip]

I havent played like half a year

[potent echo]

Same only came back for the big patch

[plucky flax]

He took 0 hp damage that game seems veri pro.

[potent echo]

I wouldn't doubt it

Although all in on health

For curios

[plucky flax]

That's his total hours.

So pretty sure it's psyker only guy.

[broken quail]

Oh wow my levels aren't even that bad, 30+232 of psyker and 30+211 on zealot

[plucky flax]

This here is the ultra beast mode guy I'm talking about

Nearly 4k hours.

[still hearth]

Wtf

[broken quail]

Christ, I don't trust steam hours though since I leave games AFK running on my computer all the time

[plucky flax]

Yeah he probably has 500 afk hours.

[still hearth]

You need to like never turn it off at that point

[cyan notch]

i have 9k hours

[still hearth]

Proof+?

[plucky flax]

But he does play a lot. His psyker is 1k+ level. His zealot is 900s I think. Can't remember ogryn and vet.

[mossy canopy]

Does anyone know if the Crit shoots twice blessing works on the trauma charge attack?

[potent echo]

Even my most played game is only 2000 hours

[whole oxide]

nope

[plucky flax]

Fyi all the 1k+ psykers I know (all 3 of them) run max hp stacking curios.

[mossy canopy]

drat

[potent echo]

Is toughness fake

Health real deal

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's fake af.

I am mid so I only have 247hp.

[still hearth]

Lmao

[potent echo]

Well maybe it's time to join the real gamers

[whole oxide]

since base toughness got nerfed, it means +% toughness curios got worse

[potent echo]

Health let's go

[summer prairie]

But when you have 1000+, you want to take 0 damage and toughness is better for that

[plucky flax]

HP always give you more margin of error.

[still hearth]

HP strong

[plucky flax]

I run hp stacking on all classes anyway.

And all the 'gamers' I know do too.

[potent echo]

True, I mean I won't doubt the wisdom of millennials

[still hearth]

HP let's you run through fire

[plucky flax]

But of course if toughness work for you keep going for it.

[potent echo]

If we can call them that

[cyan notch]

arent those flat numbers

[bleak tulip]

I foun him

[thin finch]

That's why I run DD for now ,keeping the bonus damage duribg scrier's gaze is better

[thin finch]

The Ogryn

[whole oxide]

pretty sure no

[thin finch]

I know we can't trust fatshark wording but curios gives % while node gives flat number

[potent echo]

No ...?

It's %

[summer prairie]

Psyker has 60 base, clearly the modifiers don't all just apply to the base

[thin finch]

And well Psyker have the lowest base tougness at like 75 or some shit.
So this 16% toughness bonus is not even +16toughness

[potent echo]

The nodes add flat value

[summer prairie]

It takes 5 seconds to test

[potent echo]

% adds on top of that

[summer prairie]

So yes, still good

With some nodes

[still hearth]

Ah well Ogryn can have permanently 600+ toughness so idk

[thin finch]

If you don't go out of your way you often end up at 90 toughness, so still not enough to fully enjoy the % bonus increase
Psyker must go health curios

[potent echo]

Toughness Stan is here

[night zephyr]

anyone actually run these?

[thin finch]

Is 5*15 toughness even truly possible ?

[spice veldt]

realistically you'll have 4x at most

[thin finch]

Me

[potent echo]

Yes, I prefer dome now

Actually

[spice veldt]

you have enough points for it but it's basically a meme to go out of your way for 5x +15 toughness

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1158835513789272126/1160917135149781002/image.png?ex=653fa1d5&is=652d2cd5&hm=4fe5cea224c7db99ceb59747b1312029de087c69333bbdc688a3624efde5c73d&

[night zephyr]

50% damage reduction and regen seems hard to pass, didnt know if the stun was good or detrimental on auric

[thin finch]

I think you need to go smite, ignore bonus node in order to get the two at the bottom

[plucky flax]

Yeah but no double walls for me.

[thin finch]

Oh no it's assail

[still hearth]

50%?

[night zephyr]

Toughness dr for dome

[still hearth]

Ah right

[night zephyr]

stupid broke on veterans

[still hearth]

But the issue is how it workw

It only gives the DR once it dies

[thin finch]

I will probably rub dome with my chainsword + trauma staff because boy did I die non stop

[night zephyr]

aaaaah, learning to read i am

[still hearth]

I mean it's good still

Helps save people from instantly going down when shield drops

[night zephyr]

ima about to become eneverating threshold pilled

[still hearth]

Since just one gunner can kill it easily

[potent echo]

Sometimes I tank a sniper shot when vet shout is up too

[summer prairie]

After the patch it's like 11s of ranged immunity

[still hearth]

That's a feature of over toughness

If you have yellow toughness it won't break into HP

Even overheads do the same

[spice veldt]

and bursters

[night zephyr]

yeah vet buff gonna be wild

infinite gold

[still hearth]

Unironically

Double Vet shout will be funny

[spice veldt]

and it's factored into your max toughness when calculating percentage-based regen

[night zephyr]

if you have three you have 100% guarunteed uptime if a little smart

with reduction to 30s cooldown

[still hearth]

Just do 4 shouts

[night zephyr]

tbh yeah

[still hearth]

Always have overshield

[cyan notch]

@summer prairie u on barb

[spice veldt]

basically double toughness regen and protection from toughness-ignoring stuff

das the good shit for a 4-shout team

[summer prairie]

Yes

[cunning yew]

lol this fella called me useless for using gun on psyker, meanwhile he died 3 times and downed like 80% of the game till he ragequitted

i bet he says the same for not using force sword

[unique mist]

what an ass

[bleak tulip]

as much as I am not a gunker respecter, this guy is an idiot

gunker is better than ever

[fallow meadow]

"Did your las gun homing? lol"

[cunning yew]

wouldnt have happened if i was using assail as blitz

[dense bramble]

Gunker is cring not bad

[fallow meadow]

I use to opposite gunker, but never hate people doing that as long as they do the job without taking all the ammo.

I think gunker is a more reasonable play after the talent update

[cunning yew]

i think gunker worked pretty well

[summer prairie]

Even without assail just creeping flames makes it work much better

Probably need illisi with that though

[fallow meadow]

Creeping flame is working now?

[summer prairie]

I mean you couldn't run AB very well as a gunker

[still hearth]

Creeping Flames always worked?

[potent echo]

how did it not work?

asasir

[near wyvern]

wdym it has always worked, now better than ever

[pale pilot]

so what's the weird ways that a weapon or blitz or what have you can inherit another weapon's abilities

[near wyvern]

Only currently know is hand cannon on revolver

Procs on melee crits and blitz crits as well but Assail is the only blitz that can crit

[spice veldt]

and through the magic of being Assail and swapping to another weapon while the shards are midair

[thin finch]

I don't think blitz can effciently do it.
The idea is that your blitz inherit your weapon perk when you switch before the damage are dealt. and most of the time with BB and Smite you gotta keep the blitz activated to use it.
The best interration is the soulblaze you make proc "on hit" blessing
Maybe it works with assail too ?

[near wyvern]

That also works but for hand cannon you don't need to swap

[stuck bridge]

im finding that void strike psykers typically have the worst in game attitude

[near wyvern]

Players that abuse OP weapons tend to compensate with it for their bad skills

[stuck bridge]

yup

sad tbh

[left crater]

for crit/gun psyker, which gun is better. revolver, or las pistol? both have pros and cons to them

[orchid shadow]

Brain Burst isn't an auto crit anymore?

[spice veldt]

was never an autocrit, but it is still an autoweakspot

[orchid shadow]

Ohhh, I guess I was confusing that

[spice veldt]

brain burst has a rather fun fact in that it has a weakspot multiplier of 1x, so it doesn't benefit from +weakspot damage buffs (Scrier's Gaze, Disrupt Destiny)

deranged method of building True Aim stacks https://streamable.com/0bk9u9

[still hearth]

What the fu-

[spice veldt]

who needs surgical

[quasi tundra]

Psyker do be a wizard of Cerebral torsion

[still hearth]

Definitely seems worth your time

[spice veldt]

absolutely

[plucky flax]

[quasi tundra]

Smite bug is just hilarious

But I miss using brain blast

[stuck bridge]

be kind to others, sibling

[plucky flax]

Bolter and autopistol vets flamed me last patch for being useless.

Now it's my turn to assail spamming and voidstrike spamming while flaming them.

[spice veldt]

it's true i was a bolter vet

[stuck bridge]

we have a lot of vets who jumped ship it seems

[plucky flax]

[stuck bridge]

[spice veldt]

nah it's a meme I do since I jumped to psyker after 60 hours on vet, stayed on psyker, and then spammed bolter vet for the 2 months before the skill tree update, and then hopped back onto psyker

[stuck bridge]

i find that assail and void are very strong but i think the surge build overall is better

at least for how i play

[stuck bridge]

that's fair

[bleak tulip]

edging my true till I strike

[spice veldt]

hmm, using laspistol push to refresh DD stacks

[spice veldt]

i'm glad i have a meme for brainburst so that I can say "bb op can proc true aim stacks for free"

[main tulip]

why is there so many psykers at lower levels,

[bleak tulip]

fun?

[main tulip]

Like at lvl 30 its rare if i see another psyker, but ive started a zealot build, and at lvl 8 my lobbies are just all psyker and me

[left crater]

what should i do to improve this, or is it a lost cause?

[spice veldt]

prob a combination of being strong and flashy

[ornate hamlet]

Psyker feels weak compared to when I see my friend run around with zealot, is our job purely cc and stagger?

[spice veldt]

you could lean into that, but our offensive power is at one of its peaks currently

https://streamable.com/77q3s6

[left crater]

psyker builds 2 ways mainly afaik. hoard stagger/killer, or target deleter.

[ornate hamlet]

how come, the palpatine thing is super weak and brain burst is way too slow to even use

[spice veldt]

or this https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1ySZUDbU_fPRcN/d1337GddcnLk?invite=cr-MSx1WGMsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[ornate hamlet]

assail is okay i guess but it gets boring

[left crater]

smite is a stagger tool, not a damage tool. but if it is used for damage, it deals said damage to 3 dozen targets at once.

BB is slow, but can be used while ducking in and out of cover

[spice veldt]

yeah psyker is not a particularly mechanically engaging class currently

which is just a real tragedy

[ornate hamlet]

I tried to use BB on boss - the guy with the orange shield and like - it did low low damage, maybe like 7-10% per burst

[left crater]

okay everything does poor damage to that shield except melee unfortunately.

[spice veldt]

scab captain's shield takes 0.5x ranged damage and 3x melee damage (Brain Burst counts as ranged)

[ornate hamlet]

okay im just dumb then

never mind

[spice veldt]

simply intuit that the captain takes 0.5x ranged damage through the morphogenetic field

I don't blame you for not knowing that

though BB's DPS even outside of that case is relatively unimpressive

[ornate hamlet]

takes like 2/3 BB to kill a bulwark

think one bb does just over half

[spice veldt]

i lied BB doesn't seem to count as ranged damage to the captain's shield given that it deals 810 damage

though you're easily hitting the per-hit damage cap on the captain's shield with it (810 damage on damnation)

[ornate hamlet]

im only on malice atm cuz my weapons are kinda dooodooo

[spice veldt]

oh hmm I think they bumped the ranged hitzone multiplier on his shield up to 0.75x

[naive imp]

Anyone got a tree for just staff play?

Assuming void is the best for that and warp charges?

[spice veldt]

wtf

is BB just special-cased to just do 0.75x damage to the captain's shield and other ranged weapons 0.5x

[idle bay]

Siblings, i am in need of your advise. What to change with this Dueling sword?

[uneven drift]

Hi there, fellow space wizards.
Which perks and blessings i'm looking for a chainsword? Kinda don't know anything about psyker after talents rework =\

[left crater]

assuming crit build, groaners/walkers for crit chance probably? and higher shred if you can.

[idle bay]

It's wrong diriction for me .. i'm thinking about Uncanny strike for Rending and probably Rampage

[trail forge]

im now one penance away from completing every penance for psyker

just gotta complete a whole load of missions

[still hearth]

Savage Sweep and Rampage (rampage is bugged to give 104% total damage buff rn, will still be good after).
Probably Maniac and Flak perks

[jolly cedar]

What should I change on this staff?

[still hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/he-man-fabulous-look-around-sus-suspicions-gif-22447303

[jolly cedar]

sorry

its bugged atm

[still hearth]

Lol

Uhhh

[jolly cedar]

snipping tool dosent like copy and paste for some reason

[still hearth]

There's a few thigns you can do

Swap both blessings to Warp Nexus and Surge.

That's probably the best combo for Voidstrike rn

[jolly cedar]

thanks

[still hearth]

Or upgrade Warp Flurry to T4

[jolly cedar]

ill do that when i manage to get those blessings

[still hearth]

And keep it mostly as is

[jolly cedar]

yeah flak and maniac are decent

but ill take carapace

[still hearth]

Voidstrike is still great rn

No matter what

But Surge and Nexus with crit stuff

Is just

Silly

[jolly cedar]

op asf

its getting nerfed next patch

or to be more specific

theyre taking back some of the buffs it was given

[uneven drift]

[still hearth]

Yeah it will still do like 180% damage compared to before

[jolly cedar]

honestly

[still hearth]

And with the new talents even more too

[jolly cedar]

i feel trauma is the weakest now

which is stupid

cause it used to be #1 undisputed

[still hearth]

I mean I've been against Trauma

[jolly cedar]

but all the mobs got buffed

[still hearth]

And I still hate using it

[jolly cedar]

and trauma hasnt been buffed

so now

[still hearth]

But its still really strong

[jolly cedar]

it just feels

awful

[still hearth]

It was buffed though

It almost got double damage

[jolly cedar]

its not getting any more buffs next patch

[still hearth]

[jolly cedar]

and crushers aare getting 300 extra hp

[jolly cedar]

really?

dosent feel like it in the slightest

[still hearth]

Yeah patch 13

[jolly cedar]

it feels so awful to use

[still hearth]

It got like a 80% damage bump

[jolly cedar]

in maelstrom

i die in like 2 seconds if i try to charge it

so many enemies

[still hearth]

Watch @plucky flax 's videos with trauma

I mean I can't play like that so it feels awful to me too

But they clearly do well

[plucky flax]

[still hearth]

Post videos

Nerd

[spice veldt]

i don't particularly whip out my trauma in other modes, but it is absolutely fine in melee maelstrom

[jolly cedar]

i think maelstrom is the new damnation

damnation is filled to the brim with under level 20s now

only auric will give u experienced teammates

[bleak tulip]

just play auric tbh

normal damnation is more for warmup now

[jolly cedar]

people dont look plasteel in auric

everyone there is giga min maxed

im a little min maxed

[spice veldt]

trauma in melee maelstrom babeee

[jolly cedar]

but i want to get min maxed on every single weapon in the game

[spice veldt]

i'm usually on that plasteel grindset unless I'm playing premades

[jolly cedar]

u are level 1051...

[spice veldt]

i'm on the class where duelling swords are currently meta so I might as well make the most of my movement speed

[jolly cedar]

why do u still need plasteel??

[bleak tulip]

the future

he's got kids to feed

[spice veldt]

unfortunately, mat gain in this game is peepee poopoo

[jolly cedar]

yes

when is fatshark going to add daily/weekly missions for bonus plasteel?

a bonus 10k plasteel per week would be juicy

[bleak tulip]

[naive imp]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0pOZiUFjy5M

Anyone else trying gaze? Starting to see more stuff on it.

[bleak tulip]

already dont respect this build

[naive imp]

Yea at the end of the video he said he ran +wounds as he was learning how to not blow up

[spice veldt]

don't do my boy prescienscesscesce like that

[spice veldt]

no perilous combustion 😢

[bleak tulip]

he doesnt know

[spice veldt]

i assume they went into solidity to lean into scrier's gaze

well, it is what it is

[naive imp]

So chew on that video for a second. I have more questions, siblings.

Do we have “general” builds for both smite and then also a staff focused build?

I’ve been wanting to try a staff build

[plucky flax]

I do.

[naive imp]

Is Perilous combustion good even without all the other stuff supporting it?

I’m assuming he skipped those because of that. Not enough points

[thin finch]

I do and get often my regular 600 plasteel

[spice veldt]

it is easily one of the more busted talents in the game https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1yMHLPVTGKuVoq/d1337Qb7VBFa?invite=cr-MSxQODYsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[jolly cedar]

i mean yeah i do as well

[thin finch]

I've been trying it day one and settled with Psykunner , ith staff I will always blew my minds

[jolly cedar]

but im like the only guy looting

[plucky flax]

That's me every game.

[spice veldt]

so, Perilous Combustion spreads 4 stacks in a fairly sizeable area as well https://streamable.com/o7myk5

and 8 stacks is plenty for trash and enough to put a half-their-hp-sized dent into elites

and since the game tends to throw insane densities of elites at you nowadays

[near wyvern]

It works with transfer peril void and using it with devil's claw makes you an absolute shredder but the thing holding it back is that you cannot toggle it on and off

[plucky flax]

[jolly cedar]

yep

ur the only guy looting

[native gyro]

People running past plasteel is a pain worse than anything the game can throw at me atm.

[naive imp]

That makes sense…but at the same time if all that stuff gets cleaved it dies anyways.

I could see that being really good for a voidstaff build cause then you’re just hitting the big targets and everything around dies.

But assail already cleaves everything.

[potent echo]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1zFRjyPEEXdpaE/d1337Ii4oMSe?invite=cr-MSxGQkssMTk5OTY0MzA3LA

[thin finch]

yeah but having a bullshit strong option should not prevent from exploring other

[potent echo]

imagine if darktide speedrunning was a thing

[thin finch]

wdym "was" ?

[jolly cedar]

it is

knife zealot

full movespeed talents

[naive imp]

What would you give up to get the soul blaze?

[jolly cedar]

triple stamina curios

[potent echo]

can we clip to the end of the game and trigger the end scene

[jolly cedar]

maximum sprint efficiency and stamina regen

[thin finch]

assail

[naive imp]

Toughness on peril generation?

I guess the 2.5% toughness for every 10% peril isn’t needed

[thin finch]

the quell speed is not that particulary necessary imo, you can do without

[spice veldt]

assail has a 3-target cap

and while I dislike people who say that assail's damage is bad, its raw DPS is not remarkable either

[naive imp]

Pretty sure it’s been tested that with empowerment it hits 6

[spice veldt]

sure, with empowerment

[undone carbon]

does assail count as a ranged kill for melk?

[spice veldt]

and there's a particularly strong interaction with rending%

but keep in mind that Perilous Combustion is realistically a 1-point investment

you're not going out of your way to get it at all

[plucky flax]

Toughness on peril gain.

[naive imp]

The quell speed seems like it would be super good for managing scier’s as well as more damage with void when you had to swap.

[naive imp]

Thought so. Thanks! Hey while you’re here….any chance I could get smite and staff builds from you? I’m finally branching off assail (or brain exploding when trying) lol

[thin finch]

🤔 I don't know, I think scrier's gaze perll ramp up so much that I'm not sure it would help that much

[spice veldt]

and Assail does struggle against mauler/crusher patrols, where Perilous Combustion can then fill that gap https://streamable.com/1crzqz

and soulblaze counting as a warp attack and benefitting from +warp damage% talents

and the application in a 4m radius area

it really is just practically free damage for 1 point

there is no good reason to not ever take it

[plucky flax]

Well you can exploit unlimited power smite build for now, or you can run creeping flame smite. What do you prefer?

[thin finch]

creeping flame getting nerfed to 3 stacks 😦

[naive imp]

Yea I made a slight change to the build for the soulblaze.

When I play assail it’s not either or. For big targets I just swap to void.

[spice veldt]

combustion is the one getting nerfed to 3 stacks

[thin finch]

I mix up name but yeah

[naive imp]

Whichever will be what we play next patch

[spice veldt]

too bad that 3 stacks is still too good

[naive imp]

Like there’s no shot that they don’t patch that

[thin finch]

it will be patched next patch

[spice veldt]

or void + perilous combustion https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1ySZUDbU_fPRcN/d1337GddcnLk?invite=cr-MSx1WGMsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[plucky flax]

Build is at the beginning of the vid. Adjust to your own preference as needed. Core talents are combustion, wildfire, creeping flame, warp charge (extra cd reduction)
https://youtu.be/9e0oBfL4nqo

[naive imp]

Combustion doesn’t seem that strong to me because I feel like the only thing left ARE elites. Unless using void staff. Then you can prioritize killing the elites and the little stuff dies from combust.

But assail frequently clears everything around the elite.

[spice veldt]

i think you are underestimating the amount of damage that soulblaze is dealing to elites

[naive imp]

Strictly speaking with assail

[spice veldt]

do you not see the 534 damage ticks that one of the maulers is taking to the left?

[naive imp]

You’re just standing there though. 3 people are just standing there for that to happen.

[gaunt plank]

Hey guys, is the penance "Warp Battery" bugged, had a hour long match where im pretty sure i had it maxxed for like 1/3 of the game

[spice veldt]

true, teammates are always reliable

[naive imp]

HA

xD

[spice veldt]

either way, I don't see how this is ever arguable for a 1-point investment

[plucky flax]

I always run combustion in any of my build. That's how strong I think it is.

Even after patch with 3 stacks I'd still do the same.

[spice veldt]

having to kill 1 more elite 😔

[thin finch]

imagine having to kill elite in darktide

[naive imp]

Do you think void will still be just as dumb post patch?

[still hearth]

No

Because it got a bit less damage

But its still going to be very dumb

[naive imp]

Ha

[thin finch]

Voidstaff will be ruined, useless !

Belonging to the trash

the only path to salvation will be the stub on your toe !

[naive imp]

so with the stacks and spreading. If a target with 3 stacks dies…it spreads those to another target that has 3 stacks and isn’t dead. Does that target now have 6 stacks?

[still hearth]

Wildfire?

[naive imp]

Yea

[still hearth]

It can't apply more if the target has 4 stacks

It just refereshes the duration

[naive imp]

So just a refresh

Gotcha

[still hearth]

And only for the 4 stacks I think

So it won't referesh more than 4 stacks either

[thin finch]

I'ev heard it does not work like this but I can't correct, the refresh timer is true , but I think it refresh even if it has more stack

[still hearth]

It wouldn't be that hard to check

Just spawn a boss in Psykarnum

[thin finch]

like 30 stacks dude can will have those stacks refreshed instead of losing one or something

[still hearth]

Also apparently you can

Wildfire off corpses

[thin finch]

now this is wild

[still hearth]

Like if you burn corpses it will spread wildfire or something

So having more ragdolls might be the way to go

Gotta test that too

[thin finch]

I don't see how this will works unless the game constantly check the state of corpse before they are cleaned from memory, and each time it resolves as "dead" the wildfire proc

[still hearth]

That's definitely possible

[thin finch]

It is a possibility

but I think the game would suffer a lot from this constant check for the poxbuster and shit

[still hearth]

I think it only applies to flames that you apply after they become a corpse

Well it could be that poxbursters explode when they reach 0 HP from being alive and that's a different check than just "is it dead"

[thin finch]

Maybe it's just the wildfire doing the check and that constantly returns true, leading to less pain for the system

[still hearth]

Wildfire definitely doesn't refresh higher stacks

But

Bodies definitely do spread Soulblaze

[thin finch]

Welp I was wrong then , or I did not understood the explanation I was given ,which is more probably the cases

[thin finch]

[still hearth]

It's uh

Very unreliable though?

[potent echo]

It can't be client side... Can it

They made dogs client sided now though (thank the emperor)

[still hearth]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1zG5mKco9bJwo_/d1337mHxopce?invite=cr-MSxpUlgsMTYwMDY1NDYwLA

Flayer is pretty useless. Resonance is almost required imo to even use it

[potent echo]

I don't pick reasonance on my purg because I rather put it into wildfire (bad)

[arctic vector]

What blessings for illisi?

[still hearth]

Ah

I have no idea

How wildfire spreads from corpses

But it does definitely do it

It doesn't work immediately though

It's super weird

[potent echo]

Yea I don't run either of them except on my surge

[still hearth]

Okay

So

What happens it seems

Is that when the soulblaze starts to fall off

It will count it as a kill

But only on corpses??

So after 8s it will apply soulblaze

[potent echo]

Do you have the debuff indicator mod?

Might make testing easier

[thin finch]

So when soulblaze expire on a corpse, it runs another check to spread itself ?

[still hearth]

I have it on the bosses

Something like that

But

Only on corpses??

[thin finch]

intredasting

[potent echo]

Death to the corpse.. emperor?

[fervent knot]

I wonder if the smite update will make the dps output viable

[still hearth]

It will also do this

If bodies despawn

So you can kind of make use of less ragdolls

[naive imp]

Someone said it did 50 on stagger. And 15-20 ticks?

If that’s 100 and 30-40 I definitely see it

[still hearth]

It does 13 ticks rn

So that's a pretty big increase

[fervent knot]

Even though my palpatine hands are soon to be gone, I enjoy playing as a support smite build

I hope it stays viable after the update man

[potent echo]

True middle column psyker, but without cheating

[naive imp]

13 with or without empowerment?

[fervent knot]

Iv only just started doing the harder missions and god damn the infinate lightning helps so much

[still hearth]

Without

[fervent knot]

I got a random q with 3 smite psykers last night, and it was pretty funny

[naive imp]

It’ll definitely be good post patch

That’s more than flamethrower damage

[fervent knot]

If anything the update will make me lvl up other classes

[potent echo]

Finally play crusher on zealot

[fervent knot]

That krak grenade is so good ngl

[potent echo]

Exciting

[still hearth]

On flak the tic with empowered rn seems to go from 15

To 17

[naive imp]

Lightning should do more damage to armored

Metal and all….

[still hearth]

Empowered LMB smite has 71 DPS on shotgunners

[fervent knot]

It really should, I use the staff that does a big charge shot so armoured enemies just fry for what feels like an eternity when using smite

[naive imp]

What are the go to melee weapons? I thought devil claw. But then I saw force swords (assuming because dodge) but then also see people talk about dueling swords.

[still hearth]

63 DPS on poxwalkers

[fervent knot]

I’m using a dueling sword atm

[potent echo]

Duelling sword has movement tech, so its automatic win

[fervent knot]

Someone said the MK II so I’m using that rn

[naive imp]

What tech?…asking for a friend….

[potent echo]

Mk4*

You sprint, lmb, and slide repeat

Zoom really fast

[fervent knot]

Is there much difference from the MK II to the MK IV

[potent echo]

Let me see if I can clip it

If you do it well you can outrun hordes

[fervent knot]

I’ll have to try it out, I did get an outrageous roll on a mk2 though so it might be hard 😂

[naive imp]

Dueling doesn’t have any cleave though, right?

[fervent knot]

Not much but u can work with it

[still hearth]

It cleaves 1 poxwalker

[naive imp]

Yea I think I want to try a void staff build and just shoot big targets and let hordes burn

[still hearth]

Except push attacks

[spice veldt]

mk4's heavies are noticeably better

[naive imp]

What’s the best blitz for staff build?

bb just because over there anyways?

[still hearth]

Smite

[near wyvern]

Perilous combustion, full specced assail, creeping flames and devil's claw with hand cannon revolver mainly for the rending. Disgusting.

[still hearth]

You seem to have had two unfortunate fools (or slackers) there

[near wyvern]

nah, there was just nothing for them to hit

[still hearth]

Lmao

[near wyvern]

the veteran was brauto

Maia

[potent echo]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1zGd74qfSv--SJ/d1337c7dDE3u?invite=cr-MSx2UmgsMTk5OTY0MzA3LA

you can hear the whish whoosh sound the melee hits incoming but you wont get hit

[plucky flax]

500 plasteels game.

You won't be able to evade horde with crab walk post patch.

Pls press f for infinite dodges.

[bleak tulip]

f

[spice veldt]

f

infinite dodges have done irrecoverable damage to my brain
good riddance

[naive imp]

This is the main complaint I see concerning assail

The range, cleave, and resource is…a lot.

Yea I’ve used infinite dodges and assail. I’m ruined.

[idle bay]

Post Patch we will leave them a Smite to complain about 🙂 Unless it's VFX will not be tuned down like by 90% or will melt a lot of PCs

[naive imp]

This reminds me of sea of thieves a bit. The sword lunge tech

So the only thing you need for palpatine smite is just empowered and it bugs it out?.

[idle bay]

Yes. But it's not nessesary at all 🙂 Smite as is OP as kark

Ultimate CC tool

Why fatshark decided that adding damage to it will make sense... i have no idea how their tiny fish brains work

More Karens and NERF THAT IMMIDIATELY HOA will overload forums is anything remotely FUN will pop up

Even if it's really needed to be nerfed - kark them sideways with eviscirator

Though i think ... that Assail will be even more powerful if used right since they are nerfing only LMB attack and makying RMB atack a "Karen brain" stronger.

You can still guide a shard after RMB attack....

[spice veldt]

though the RMB is noticeably quite slow to enter

[idle bay]

And it will be more powerful shard, and with EP even more powerfull

[spice veldt]

whereas the LMB only requires 0.19s after clicking for a shard to be released

[idle bay]

Just need to make a habbit of new attack sequence for it and it will be fine

[still hearth]

What was the RMB damage now

It went from 250 to like 400 something?

[summer prairie]

if you just use RMB you can't even use it fast enough to spend all your knives

[still hearth]

Yeah its great

Ahh

Nice

Yeah RMB spam Assail inc

[idle bay]

Well i have not spend my shards when i used it with LMB - i just spent extra time on guiding each bolt

[still hearth]

It will be fun (not fun)

You just spam LMB

Until you have 1 shard

Then use RMB

Easy win

[sour bison]

Its not a bug if its working as written

[idle bay]

LMB shard will be wet noodles

[sour bison]

[still hearth]

For once its not working as written

Smite is the only one that has no peril cost reduction for Empowered

[sour bison]

O rly?

[still hearth]

Yeah it seems that the other functions just carried over by mistake

New Empowered Smite still seems like it'll be pretty bad

But at least it will do 120 DPS on Poxwalkers

[sour bison]

Also +30% is funny

[still hearth]

[idle bay]

It deals almost no damage and +135% from EP will be still no damage 🙂

[still hearth]

Yeah idk

[sour bison]

+30% to nothing

[still hearth]

Their numbers are pretty fucky

Meanwhile Assail

Does things it doesn't even say??

Like adding 2x more targets

[spice veldt]

and increased weakspot multiplier

out of fuckin nowhere

[still hearth]

Like Assail basically gets double damage on top of more damage and more targets

[wise ruin]

good dueling sword?

[still hearth]

I said it before

300% damage buff on Empowered Smite

At least

Or make it something else

Like 125% isn't enough to make it worth using actively most of the time

[sour bison]

It needs to be reworked

[still hearth]

I had ideas for that as well yeah

[sour bison]

Just bad design

[still hearth]

Make LMB a long range single target damage and RMB a chain lightning that stuns for X secondso based on charge

This makes me unironically angry

[spice veldt]

at least with the zealot nade, the zealot can go do stuff while the enemies are stunned

[summer prairie]

empowered smite is probably going to melt a poxwalker horde in a few seconds after the patch

[still hearth]

It does 60 DPS rn roughly from my testing

So 120 DPS

Means like 4 seconds for poxwalkers?

[summer prairie]

it already spreads to the whole horde pretty fast

[spice veldt]

not bad

[still hearth]

That's less than half the DPS I get with purgatus

[summer prairie]

it's going to be almost instant with the faster spread

[still hearth]

And requires a keystone

[idle bay]

We need mode that makes a Microwave's cooking done "DING!" sound at the end of Smite channeling

[still hearth]

Idk it's alright at least

[fervent knot]

If it wasn’t for the bug rn id use smite as a knock back not damage anyway

[sour bison]

But it doesn't look as cool as purple lightning

[spice veldt]

zealot L

[fervent knot]

I pulse it for a knock back, charge abit then knock back again

[still hearth]

I mean the reason to use Smite is to CC rn

But they should change that

Because that's terrible design for this game

[fervent knot]

Yeah that’s what I’m saying

[still hearth]

Unless the CC doesn't take up you doing damage

Like charge for 3s and then it zaps things on its own