#psyker-class
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Scrier is dumb
it's fun and that's all that matters to me
i use funny laser spam gun
i get lots of crits
i regen toughness both during and after
i play like pre-patch vet with better damage but less survivability
crazy i think
1shotting crusher never gets old
Except that Vet gets infinite bullets
@kindred wyvern

you loose the 20% damage base damage bonus and toughness resistance but the 30 stacks last for 10 seconds
at least on the description
if you're using your entire kit properly, this is not something that's needed
terrifying barrage is worth in surge? or warp flurry better?
empowered psionics + brain burst, a proper melee weapon, etc
scrier's gaze affects everything rather than just gun
which makes it better than pre-patch vet to me
It's always bad
Yep!
i want to kill things and i want to have fun
smite has neither
assail isn't fun and doesn't combo well with scirer's gaze anyways
free BB with empowered psionics? good
I've been running trauma / BB a bit, BB with empower can be useful sometimes when you're not running voidstrike
once next patch lands and prevents you from exploding at 100 peril with free BB, life will be perfect
Man, Trauma overkill is dumb
Almost as much overkill as the actual damage I dealt

Trauma's still super nice. Nothing really competes with VS in its current state but I still like running trauma for safety
It's great with randos who don't know how to watch other peoples' backs
None of my teammates bothered cleaning up enemies they were dealing with, simply went for the biggest groups, so there were straggling Bruisers n' Poxies
Trauma saved me a lot
Definitely! And it's easier to clutch when it's pure chaos by just shooting your feet and crying dodging towards where you need to go
I was running Voidstrike on a mutie spam a5 and it kills 3+ mutants in one shot
Man lives in a fish bowl.
Surge blessing?
Yeah
Move Speed moment
Makes sense. I should really try to make a voidstrike with surge. Im still running the peril voidstrike spam
I've never seen more than +17%toughness how to get 20 ? is it only via melk ?
Unobtainable currently
just like with weapons, the max obtainable is 17% cause that's 80% of the "max"
Wait, did I miss something in the patch notes? What is this about?
● Fixed an issue where “Brain Burst”/”Brain Rupture” would cause an explosion even with the talent “Empowered Psionics” active
Oh gotchya, the refund (free? However you word it). Thanks.
Where did you got that screen? 😮
Scoreboard mod
Where do I get it? I wanted to track how I was doing but I could not
Bro I just had the worst psycher ever in high intensity shock troop gauntlet damnation he was worse than a bot an actual detriment to the team we had to kick them
Life post patch 13
All of these psychers who leveled up using assail are all ass
sometimes a bot is more useful because at least they provide the ammo aura
Blazing Spirit applying 4 stacks on Trauma Staff instead of 3 when?
New psykers are old bolter vets
Makes sense
Spam one thing then die thr moment something threatens them
That's me. 
it's true I was a bolter vet and now I'm an assail psyker
old meta hunter
I'm messing around with smite in the testing room since I want to use it without the exploit and is it just impossible to blow yourself up using it? like I'm spamming the ability intentionally trying to blow up and can't because it automatically forces you to lose about 15% peril every time you hit 100%
You can
If you cancel the auto quell
Or use LMB
But if you're below 97% when you activate smite it's safe
But the right click can't explode if you just let it run
Did you guys read the patch notes?
Seems like Assail will survive
But no changes to warp charges....
What changes?
Devoted Rejects, Today we are sharing with you the provisional notes for our next patch - Patch #14. This update will mainly be comprised of needed balance changes and bug fixes from the Class Rework in Patch #13. Just to make you aware these notes and changes are not final, and may still be changed before the release. We will release the fina...
They fixed dome
These announced changes aren't final but it's what they're thinking rn
Ya they touched up dome a fair bit
What changes for warp siphon
Because its already strong
why would you want them to

theyre perfectly viable
Other than bugs it's good rn
I just think psionics is just better than warp rn
Hey. I was trying to use Scrier’s Gaze and. I do like the revolver on Psyker. However, what’s the opinion on the laspistol for Gun Psyker
it feels bad to lose warp charges but it's relatively balanced I'd say
Laspistol is excellent for crit builds
I think warp is better for blaze trauma, surge, and purge
It's also getting buffed next patch
I’ve never been a fan of Laspistol personally might try it again
I love me revolved though
U need a very specific blessing for laspistol

I forgot it's name
infernus?
cocain
what does that green icon mean under the mission frame
Heresy
ah so i can tell which mission i need to do for my Penence
so i need to do the maelstorm
Don't think the maelstrom thing has a completion symbol
and since the things account wide if you've played multiple classes tracking stuff for penances become much harder
its also per individual mission, not mission type
the gunsker has been quite enjoyable
though it is a little bit vexing when ally kill my disrupt destiny
how long should i wait before attempting auric level missions
until you can confidently do at least damnation high intensity
hi intensity shock troop is harder than some of the aurics still so if you can do those your def ok
for at least most of them
just jump in once you're comfy with damnation
Your regular damnation might actually end up being an overall easier experience because of who playing those different difficulties, though it's a little different right now.
high intensity and hi shock are both reliant on your team too, so if you are doing quick play things can be hit and miss
Is infernus lasgun + soulfire spread psyker a thing that can actually do well?
basically double down on the fire
regular burn is not affected by wildfire spread iirc
but it should be good for the focus target yah?
if you're double-dipping, I'd prob go for Infernus Laspistol + Bloodletter Chainsword
infernus can stack on monstrosities fairly well with scriers giving you a ton of crit ontop of psykers able to hit 12.5% base crit
since soulblaze has noticeably less DPS than Burn
add in 5% from the gun and 20% from scrier
IDK I just thought about the idea of a pyromaniac psyker was fun
for anything non-monstrosity, you probably won't notice infernus doing much, unless you're running a recon
the two do not stack well in the talent tree too because the soulblaze perks are all on the left of the tree where the crit is on the right
recon has lower stack limit doesn't it
12 iirc
yeah, but, if you're critting anythin non-monstrosity 3+ times with laspistol/lasgun, it'll be dead
meme illisi for soul blaze on melee crit, recon for blaze stacks
i dont really get how to use sciers gaze can someone explain
it makes your peril generate explonentially faster over time
press button, have infinite power for a finite duraiton
i use it but dont feel much more powerful
“Infinite power” is one way of looking at it
a little faster maybe
that's the fun part, you don't get much more powerful
you can quell while it is up to passively create buff stacks without enemies, but you have to be aware of it capping you out and potentially blowing your head off when you go to use other peril generators
it works really well with recon
you can just be a gun psyker and not worry about the rampup too
with the 20% move speed, you move while quelling at sprint speed, so you can quell power walk, you can also sprint until stamina is out, then quell, repeat for zoom
get a bunch of conditional quell to maximize uptime but otherwise don't worry
smite psyker whole game, 1 melee kill, went down 5 times, only killed 3 specials whole game 🥹
the move speed and crit chance are the big draw, the 20-30% damage hits breakpoints on illisi but not much else
thats what ive been doing, dueling sword and recon lasgun with sciers gaze, ill try it with illisi instead
what blitz are you using?
brain burst
keystone?
soulblaze w slaughterer?
I LIKE the MGX III infantry lasgun but enemy suppression actually screws with you, the VLD recon is just a hose of death
you can jiggle peek enemy suppression
Gaze is more niche for sure. You can get more movement speed, damage and build peril which is great for non peril things. So infernos laspistol for example pairs really well with gaze.
why pistol over a lasgun that just hits harder, what's it's claim to fame other than comissar roleplay
Siblings i feel i want to tip my warpy toes on gun psyker anyone has the secret sauce? Like what gun maybe a video or something?
laspistol has high crit i think
you can do slaughterer or you can use shred for more flames
oh yeah shred...
Gaze can also be paired with warp rider which increases your damage based on peril. Iirc, it's not function ing properly but you still get a boost.
also secondary function is gaze will proc your toughness peril regen nodes
8% instead of 20% iirc
its like, the flames kill things with 1hp left because you didnt hit a breakpoint so its cool but not efficient
it's just a steroid boost
Warp Rider functions properly; just that you get +10% damage at 0% peril
it's the old Warp Unleashed but with +20% as the upper bound instead of +25%
idk it has a minimum dmg. that's neat
Wat since when
I always take warp rider, to good
i assumed 4% dmg per 20%
Thought it didn’t function properly
shoot something before and after equipping warp rider at 0% peril, and you'll notice it
Oh wierd. gotcha
Oh well
their passive descriptions lack so much detail
only blessings scale like that, but Warp RIder scales continuously and linearly
illisi buffs going to be fire
PoE has spoiled me with actual descriptions for abilities and skills
that's the real reason i check this discord
love just cleaving off 20+ hordlings with a single swing
and standardized descriptions
simply intuit the meaning of talents through the morphogenetic field
i didn't know about it either until pygex told me
cuz you know, I assumed that it did what the description said it would
how bold of you
Do recon lasgun crits come in chunks or something?
it's a crit string iirc
see this game is just weird
@steel flame may have answers. I am only mediocre with revolver. idk about other guns.
like Unstable Power?
Unstable Power with Warp Rider could be fun with gaze
current build I am tinkering with uses scriers, smite, Illisi, and columnus MKV auto gun. pop scrier for horde to jump to 30 stacks via cleave, smite crushers and maulers for the team, smite shooters to sideways dodge skate at them to point blank dakka them with auto gun, full auto back stab on monstrosities to help team
much fun
couldn't you just bb the heavies
takes to long, and I am to close to charge it without getting plinked by a random mob
playing solo quickplay means my team is not able to coherently cover me at all
at least, that is the base expectation
some times you get that well oiled machine team that just craters the mission into the ground, feels good
Did a 4 psyker auric maelstrom with nurgle blessed and specialist monstrosities last night. Was the most painful experience ever
additionally, the only viable option I have found for crushers and maulers that is not BB is voidstrike or surge staff. I am not comfortably able to use either in my scriers build because I am not looking at my peril every 2 seconds mid gigantic horde when 7+ crushers just waltz out at me.
50min clear AMA
what blitz distribution did you have?
1 smite 1 assail, and I assume our void strikes had passive bb
2 void strikes, 1 surge, 1 purgatus
Voidstrikes stunlocking monstrosities is a game changer
any advice on salvaging what I can on this?
Rampage is a bit of a trap
But may change with the cleave buff next patch
Personally, uncanny is nice to have
Still a single target weapon tho so yeah
but perks :/
Perks get rid of weak spot
Sprint is still nice but weak spot modifiers are garbage from their formula
in this particular case Im not sure that best given I'm specifically aiming for weakspots with this weapon
is this killing an enemy affected by soulblaze, or if soulblaze is responsible for the death?
aah right
I absolutely hate this new discord app update
Weak/crit damage perks sound nice. But if I remember correctly, from the math it’s not
the 4% on kill is more consistent I have found.
Like it’s an extra bit on that portion of the damage, not the overall end
what if you went EMpowered route?
nah, prob not worth it just for bb over warp charge dmg
Oh..so you wish to know the secret of the pew pew do you?
empowered BB would be good for crushers/maulers just for the charge speed bump
Do you expect great things? How will Illisi and the other force sword compare after this?
I've had this purg staff for a while and it's done great by me; would you guys say it's worth trying to invest in this new one at the cost of cloud radius?
i wouldn't
Columnus infantry mk5, Vraks headhunter mk7, or Vraks headhunter mk 3. In order: full auto shred for everything but crushers/maulers, semi auto ammo efficient anti shooter special, or the boss hunter at 4500 per headshot burst(for melting pesky beasts of nurgle). Any blitz you like, but I prefer smite for taking back control of the battle field when things get spicy.
you will have trouble with crushers and maulers though as gunker
even a small buff to the damage of its swings will hit some break points in my build, so it will be a welcome ease of use addition
My personal favorite for gunpsyker is dumdum internus laspistol (optimally with Maniac damage and crit chance) and I use this build here with it
Don't all the force swords receive the same damage buff? According to the patchnotes they all have the same base attack damage. What makes the Illisi particularly good?
move set is very very horizontal, and the special attack acts like the powersword increasing cleave by a massive amount
horizontal moveset and a different special attack that's spammable. also I don't think they'd have the same base damage since Deimos has higher dmg values on the tooltip no?
what to change to make this sword Perfect?
Is +Maniac dmg and + Flak armor dmg still the best?
What does horizontal moveset mean?
more cleaving through hordes instead of a vertical slice that hits only one, maybe two enemies
I always wondered between Deimos and Illisi. I just hate the Deimos special attack. It is strong, but always gets me killed, while the Illisi one does not do much, but feels better to use.
even worth upgrading due to hight burn dmg?
mostly the special makes the illisi stand out
otherwise it'd just be another obscurus
So you actually fight hordes with by always activating the special attack?
light attacks tend to have shallow angles of attack, power attack 1 is right to left with insane cleave followed it with a light and you sweep hordes
essentially
Cloud radius is pretty underwhelming.
ehhh, you can do better but if you have to hold onto it for now it might work. you lose a lot of range on that cloud radius
if you're not spamming the special that much, just bring the deimos instead
So hold LMB, then quick LMB for horde clear? I just spammed LMB so far. 😄
both work, the h1>l1 combo is good for hyper density
if you special charge it first before doing h1 into hyper density you can take out 40+ in a swing
Is this due to some perk? I am testing it right now in the testing area and it barely hits things 2 meters away.
What’s the best force sword for monsters and elites?
Let’s say 3 maulers
you have modded testing area or standard?
although i would also unironically just say "dueling sword" lol
dueling sword feels super overtuned atm
because the density I am talking about cannnot be replicated in base testing area
Standard, no mods.
it does occur in game though
I didn’t like the feel of the duel sword
i think the "easiest" option is just to use illisi then, it's pretty good into mixed crowds with the special
and you don't have to slide and dodge around too much for small numbers of enemies
y not just spam illisi's special if you can afford the peril instead of following up with an h1
I have gotten so spoiled by the hyper mobility of combat knifes. Useless for actual combat, but that's what my staff and assail is for. Force sword dodges are so short. 🙂
pre-patch, spamming the special had ~2x clear times on 40 poxwalkers than the heavy combo
And monsters? I feel useless just hitting it with my staff projectile (surge)
i think the rmb does more
Aight
void is probably the best boss dps atm if you actually want to swap staff
it's coincidentally also the best everything else dps
I’d rather not
you can, but the animation can get you hit if you are spamming it
just mix in some shoves and dodges and you're golden
shove > special charge > h1 feels really safe to me on illisi into almost anything
spam them infinite dodges while it lasts
even if it's a mixed horde with ragers usually the ragers get locked out bc of the slot system if you backdodge once or twice
but you still slice them with the special h1
there's no slot system in dt right?
oh well then they get locked out by literally not having space in front of me lol
illisi's thing with ragers is that it's special staggers them
it seems like the little guys run a bit faster than the ragers do once they get into the attack animation
im pretty sure there is
you can literally hold w and spam special lights into them and be perfectly safe
so if you backdodge the space fills up with little guys and the ragers kinda just hang out in the back and hit air
I pull out my auto gun to melt ragers because I just want them dead before they hunt down my teammates
preference thing
yeah i'm just talking about getting the first one out, once you're hitting the horde it's just spam repeat forever
Your better non-dueling melee options for big armor is deimos. The heavy 2 specifically. Only really use the special for crusher head shots, but you also get animation locked with the deimos special. Deimos does have a similar (not the same) light move set to the dueling swords.
You can handle maulers with illisi, but it take a lot of time. It's super pee pee poo poo against crushers.
You can push even crushers over with a force sword tho.
@half turtle What blessings would you recommend for the Illisi?
yeah, crushers and maulers are a problem for non staff psyker
i'm actually not sure, i literally just ran a purple one with deflector i think and it worked fine (hi 5 not stg)
deflector slaughterer is a wellrounded roll
is slaughterer bugged on force swords too
you can swap deflector with a different damage perk if you are comfortable with that
You don't get stun locked with Illisi special and you can spam it if you need to build peril and quell it off for toughness regen too.
yeah the illisi special is super spammable
also i love the sound effect of it schlorping through 40 guys
spam illisi could go slaughterer exorcist for rapid peril gen/quell
20% charge, 5% removed on headshot
does autoquelled peril count for toughness regen
ye for quietitude
(it used to not work with battle meditation a long time ago)
or uh psykinetic's wrath i guess technically
What’re the best blessings and whatnot for Deimos?
“Find them for my beloved”
kinetic deflection not working with warp expenditure is also big sad
What do I do with this?
You'll want uncanny strike. The send one is up to you. Deflector for defense. Unstable power for more damage that doesn't require kills. Slaughterer for more power that doesn't need you at high peril.
Perk should have maniac. After that, you could go with what ever is giving you the most problems.
Tyvm
My scrying gaze deimos
i feel sick like i just stumble o some forbidden heretic relic
thx ill check it!
Hello, i need some weapon recommendation for my assail psycher
Voidstrike staff 🤣
illisi + smite staff, catachan works too
Voidstrike any good?
how are you using assail though, for everything or just shooters?
do you horde clear with assail?
sounds like a truck and hits like 5 trucks
voidstrike right now is disgustingly effective
Evrything, but i find it struggeling with flak boys
I guess i try voidstrike then, its good against flak and bosses?
Okay, sounds like the perfect staff for me then
against everything really you can ditch assail too
lmao, that op?
What blessings for it?
surge/transfer peril + warp nexus if i recall correctly
And perks?
carapace and flak
Okay, not monstrosities? or how you write it
The staff?
yeah
seems fair, looks like left click assail gets nerfed aswell?
i think so
What about melee weapon?
Duelling seems kinda nice, i like the movement on it
But on the voidstrke staff, whats the most important to get high % on?
i love to poke mutants with it
dmg and area i think
the interrupt is allso nice on the sword
Why not? the staff melee never gets used
believe it or not there is a melee attack for the staff
Yeah-
I know
buffs incoming too, will need that melee crit for the new meta
build ruined
the melee staff is so powerfull by itself that if that were the case the thunder hammer would be useless
we cant have all the good weapons sry siblings
That moment when you get someone in game who is so efficient, that if you're not efficient, they get cranky because you're not having fun the way they think you should be having fun.
had a godmode knife fighting zealot in a match earlier, it was fun to watch
solo'd 2 chaos spawns
Advice siblings?
Uncanny Strikes isn't bad on a Deimos iirc, and Deflector is fine, so if you're only gonna use it for Elites, Specials n' Monstrosities, then I'd say swap the Perks to Flak + Maniac.
If you wanna use it against Bruisers n' other mid-level trash too, then Stamina to Flak and Deflector to Slaughterer.
(Anyone wanna check me on this btw?)
(Just in case I'm wrong)
yeah that sounds good to me
uncanny can help with getting rid of carapace and whatnot esp since you usually run it with something like purg so you can even get soulblaze to work with uncanny strikes applied to crushers
are you guys getting inconsistencies with disrupt destiny?
like, not getting stacks when killing marked enemies, most of the time not getting stacks for weakspot kills and sometimes getting stacks when you shouldn't
but also sometimes only getting the 1 second buff but not the 15sec precision bonus
Are duelling swords any good while leveling?
While levelling? Eh
They ramp pretty hard with Blessings, whereas Force Swords are pretty front loaded, so unless the game is kind enough to throw an Uncanny Strikes DS your way, maybe stick to easier stuff
whats the best force sword while leveling?
While levelling just pick assail. Xd
Are neither of the other two really, ideal to use then when doing that?
Thinking on levelling my Psyker next
You can use any weapons it won't matter when using the blitz called assail.
You'll be using assail for 98% of the map.
whats max amount of bleed stacks on knife?
16
If you're not playing Hi Gauntlet, Damnation, no.
What?
Sometimes I like to use more than the usual good one. I have a strong dueling blade here, but Like to mix it up now and again.
Melee only modifier maelstrom and I'm using assail for 90% of the map it is that op
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv82gJBhZyo
Hi shock gauntlet is piss easy with assail only. Xd
It's said that forever. I am still confused by it. We had talks about what it supposed to say vs what it actually says and then we remained confused.
depends on the gauntlet, but assail is going to pee pee poopoo over specials cuz 100% adm against maniacs babeeeee
I was specifically referring to having to deal with an entire room full of scab maulers, crushers and Mutant chargers. Throw in a couple Nurgle-enhanced weakened bosses. Assail is absolute shit.
bulwarks, dont forget the bulwarks
assail does ok against chargers i think
Sure it does
but you cant hit them until they burst through the crowd they threw you past
anyone?
You also have 3 teammates. If you take out the most dangerous threats (specials) the rest become comfortable to deal with.
I PUG, so teammates are unreliable on a typical day.
There's no modifier in this game I won't be comfortable bringing assail to.
agentchaos is meming when they say 98%, but besides the overexaggeration, you really can just spam assail
oh yeah i mean i'm the "unironically uses only brain burst" guy so i mostly agree about assail's downsides
Excuse me? Why the strawman? I never said anything about brainburst.
Yeah. It's a known thing that marked enemies won't show up sometimes.
what's the strawman lol
i'm just saying, i don't like assail that much
Nevermind,
i only use brain burst
d&f is talking about themselves, not you
my mind skipped the "Imean I'm the"
It's not a meme clutch unless it's with 3 sussy random teammates.
Marijuana's a hell of a drug.
relatable
I use smite more often than not.
Maybe you need to build around your assail better. Bring voidstrike for carapace and voila.
thanks, just wanted to know whether it's just a bug or me misunderstanding the mechanics. are any weak kills supposed to give two charges or only ones on marked enemies?
only on marked enemies
i think assail is good i just don't like using it
By use you mean keep it in your pocket 90% of games right???
Nor do I but I'm just saying it's stupidly broken.
I did this, I have a strong surge crit voidstrike. I found it better and easier to use that on everything. Voidstrike is greater than assail.
you can also do assail memes and make it do damage to carapace https://streamable.com/zjpqc5
And can be used as your only weapon while topping scoreboard (don't care about scoreboard pls it's toxic)
? Explain?
i think assail void is probably the way to go if you want to max damage yeah, it's just not fun for me so i don't do it
ty
what capstones are you guys using with your assail?
The best way to use Smite is to not use it unless you have to (in game)
Empowered is probably best if you like spamming it but Warp Charges is probably the best overall if you're not using Assail constantly.
It's not as good at horde clearing.
I only play games where its needed 90% of the time, such as with maelstroms where we have hordes of crushers, maulers, etc.
There's a node that gives 2 on weakspot kill called Cruel Fortune.
Sounds like you get really bad team-mates 
assail has some specific rooms that it's really really great in, like rooms that have nothing but 15 gunners+shotgunners in them, or rooms full of ragers
and it's pretty good into hordes, mixed and not
Usually. I Don't have friends I play with on here, so I solo.
and everything else you can use void i guess
Not everyone only play with a squad. Some of us prefer to suffer in solo match making. 
lol sorry. Just me typing a comment and forgetting to hit send then it getting mixed in with me trying to reply
Why
EP with +charge on elite kill 😎
also perilous combustion takes cares of elite packs
as long as you secure 3 kills, it's basically gucci from there on
perilous combustion is kinda busted ngl
Why? Hrm some people don't want to talk on voice. Maybe play 1 game, take a long break, then play another.
Idk it's weird.
vewwy bawanced
yeah that's the one i meant, wasn't sure whether that's on any weakspot or just marked
blue fire good
burn this world
My gameplay view is centered around self preservation is secondary to keeping the team alive. I put myself in risky situations so they can do better. Otherwise, they get ganked too easily if I play defensively. Because of this, I get high scores in stagger, but everything else is shit because they'll forget to cover me, watch me, they split up, etc.
Cover me while providing room-wide CC without using the peril bug. So I need a moment to breathe, that is.
I find playing solo improve my own gameplay faster than playing with good people too.
Yeah how dare you be different.
More meme clutches every day. 

Tbf playing with randos definitely make you play differently
I chill way more with friends
I get flamed in pubs every day cos I'm always alone and not with team (the guys sticking together all die)
Just die with them
And then you get those assholes who have a chip on their shoulder and wanna criticize you for not playing how they want you to.
It is the way
It's me. No vc and just sit idling for a long time.
No I need to get the plasteels.
Plasteel for what? More trauma staves??
Yeah if it's a bad playlist of map I'm just afk and wait like 20-30 mins.
always
I already got perfect one but I need more perfect weapons. 
that 10% blast radius trauma staff not good enough for you?
Like a better illisi for next patch.
Need one with high damage rolls and very high warp resist or something.
Also more horrible weapons.
I heard you do more damage on purg tho so idk might scrap my trauma.
Take those impressively bad weapons to get even more bricked.
Yeah but you gotta run Wildfire

(impossible)
wow
It is the Emperors will
I swear hadron picks a blessing of the day and hands that shit out with a heavy hand.
HERESY
DONT GIVE ME BARRAGE.
Slightly off topic but how are folks making those squat talent trees that all fit in a single screenshot?
IDK about the squat ones, but you can use the darktide build editor to fill out a tree and then zoom out for the screenshot.
welp
I was using that site but they don't fit in a single screen, for some reason

left ctrl + scroll
to zoom
hm ok i forgot, rending is for you only and brittleness applies to everyone else's damage too right
Yesterday hadron was only giving out rampage on MK4. At least that is useful tho.
yes
I know how to zoom, lol
I just meant I see people posting trees like:
Ah
TY
what happens if you use a scripture?
u drop it i think
what would be the best stats for a dueling sword?
You can’t use Scriptures, only push
using this atm, but im looking to upgrade soon
also, theres a surge force staff with a focused channelling blessing, if i were to buy it and take the blessing off it, would i be able to apply the blessing to a voidstrike staff?
No
I myself use maniac (must have), your other perk is up to you I guess. Whatever you hate. Unyielding is a strong choice though.
The staves are all unique archtypes
ai
They don't share blessings, regardless of how much sense that'd make
They do share skins though 
burning spirit would go hard on purgatus 
I suppose it makes sense from an animation standpoint
since they're all just long sticks
Does the 'your secondary attack cannot be interrupted' make it so you cannot be staggered while charging up?
I believe it does
cuz the charging is the secondary
Got a voidstrike staff that has the blessing, i needa grab it
whats the best dueling sword?
MK4
Here
I'm assuming best = damage.
I find the MK 5 dueling sword easier to use, but it's not as beefy.
It is very fun to use,
Slice and dice an entire hoard if needed
Would this be worth upgrading i wonder
Also, how on earth does light attack do more dmg than heavy?
Maybe buff at patch to make all marks do same headshot damage
tons of head shot damage from memory
If that's the case I'm going back to mk5.
I hope so
why does my dueling sword lower my stamina to 2 bars?
5 has the most swag with the overhead heavies
anyone wanna throw a fun disrupt destiny build or two at me?
duelling swords give +1 stamina
Psyker has 1 stamina by default
Look at the heavy 2. That's where the damage is.
Also yes. I'd upgrade it. Not sure if its just outside any BPs tho.
assail or staff i have 5 bars, when i equip the dueling sword i get only 2
yeah, cuz they give +4 stamina
different weapons give different amounts of stamina
e.g., force swords give +2 stamina
probably for the purposes of slowing down your stamina regen
since you regenerate a flat amount of stamina per second
1 bar/s for psyker
and sprinting I suppose
not that you're doing much sprinting with staffs besides sprint-sliding
I assume this low Finesse level deletes the whole purpose of the weapon?
low rating but good stats?
that's some low ass damage, buy 20 more staffs until you get good stats on all properties
outbudget the RNG
my current one
but low burn
@half turtle @spice veldt Remember how I said this couldn't one shot muties on the H2?? I only JUST remembered that I didn't have stacks built up because I forgot slaughterer is a thing. Yeah IDK why I'm like this either.
With 0 peril and no help from the talent tree, I can one shot the mutant with a non-crit H2 with at least 2 stacks of each built up (because they should build together). With just slaughterer active, I need 3 stacks.
Now to go take bloodthirsty off this before I forget.
the sword that was promised 😮
yeee. Too bad I am clumsy with it. 😂
gotta save that for later reference, see if i can build something alike
Next patch should be even easier to one shot them
hehehe
They are planning to increase the damage cuz crab rave will be gone
You will be missed 🇫
They could start with fixing the dodge duration talent
TRUE
You give me talent point, I give you nothing.
Sincerely

You give me talent point, I maybe do as described.
like the dmg difference is big, but i dont know if its worth the resources
Assail feels so op it's not even funny
Yes
Creepy music box style of "We Wish You a Merry Christmas" stated playing off in the distance.
I'm in the mourningstar and thought that it was coming from in-game. Creepy af.
some good surge staff blessings?
sees a group of shotgunners
5 clicks later - 8 elite kills
Check Atheneum, still work in progress and a mess but the info is there
i currently have warp nexus and terrifying barrage on my surge staff
BB is in a poor state at the moment. Hopefully they get the break points right next patch
I used it with a purgatus staff, felt serviceable with EP
it can oneshot basically all human elites and specials if you have warp rider and at least 33% perils
Can't even BB a dreg gunner without help from the talent tree
I mean, I initally only wanted to get the old BB achievement
Need Empower as well
And maulers still gonna lulz at ya
"effective against carapace" up my ass
In my mind, BB's niche is more for bombers and snipers anyway. Surge staff / lasgun vets can deal with gunners pretty quick, and surge staff also pulps maulers
Almost queued up with no talent tree 💀
My brain today is amazing.
Btw, was so disappointed to find out that disrupt destiny stacks all go away at once
It seemed decent when I was wondering on how to build a "non peril" psyker
But idk, my ranged weapon feels outmatched by assail and I feel like warp siphon works better as a keystone due to the dmg increase
yeah, DD's bonus is rather appreciable but the cycle of gaining/losing stacks is painful, esp with its bugged behavior
but it is a lower point investment and I'm usually taking the nodes on its branch, so I generally prefer DD from a point-economy perspective
yeah i wish DD were more consistent
as is i almost always take EP because it makes brain burst usable and consistent and im always taking warp rider regardless
at the same time, I'm fine with these conditional damage bonuses
I'm already not a fan of Warp RIder, which just gives +10% global damage straight up all the time and is basically an "always take" because of that (and its relatively low cost)
I can’t believe this
uses it for all my ogryn builds
assail is overvalued, sure it kills stuff fast but can it cook you dinner ?
that's right, didn't think so
Oh yeah @near wyvern why does precog suck and shred and riposte better?
its borderline busted on 4 and lower, then you gotta play around staffs for single target in 5 and it falls off a little outside of crowds
smite way more op for 5s and aurics
Everything is fine
(its not fine)
I don't understand the issue, I just go laspistol only on psyker
Team in the background
Pretty much my opinion on One With the Warp
if only I didn't have to path through mind in motion to take it
You don't tho
i'm a pro assail psyker
i cri
mind in motion might be good if dodging didn't exist
10% flat tdr scaling to 33% is way too fat
it is a fairly hard pick but I decided to go for more damage instead of DR
peril bonuses should just start from 0%
I thought that they made a good nerf to Warp Unleashed with Warp Rider until I was told that you just get straight up +10% damage at 0% peril like before
The amount of crying I'm seeing from smite bros on every youtube vid rn.
negative reception to the smite bug fix?
I guess? just so many people talking about how Psyker is "ruined" by this upcoming patch 
meanwhile mkIV dueling sword gets even stronger
true good thing we don't have other questionably broken stuff
Hey all. I'm working on my last penance power up. Any tips? Not a big fan of BB so I'm trying to get it out of the way.
Truly ruined
Surge staff even worse than before
Can’t believe it
😔 Psyker too weak, FS taking away all my SUPPORT and replacing it with things that do obscene damage
OH! Is inifinate smite fixed now??
so they fixing or remaking smite to not cost peril with a stack of the empower?
how will we ever cope with perilous combustion being 3 stacks instead of 4
same with infinite bubble bois. Bug abusers in shambles
The trauma treatment.
time for me to make a new set of videos illustrating that perilous is still not balanced
noooo
Perilous is very balanced
Stop ruining my fun ;-;
i hope they keep that smite cost no peril when having stack 
im gonna miss this smite gameplay 
Are soulblaze kills counted as warp kills?
ye
Yes
Ayeee okay thank you all
soulstealer + Soulblaze = fun
Is only the Mk IV good or is the MK V also strong?
yee just got a really good purgatus staff, trying to make soulblaze build around it
they are all good and they are all getting buffed again
Mk 4 is best though
if his question was "is the mkIV better" instead then I would've said that 
but that's not what they asked.
though in terms of guiding them towards the strongest variant
and the mk4 also having the fast followup into the h1 from the special
which the other two don't have for some reason
I just answer what is being asked instead of giving him the neckbeard "ackshually this is what you should use"
they all are more than good enough
compared to most other options especially
it's true I'm a neck beard for giving an addendum that the mk4 has the best damage
Build
His question alone made it clear they seem to know the mkIV is the best and were just asking if the mkV is still good, which it is. Reading comprehension is difficult, I know.
What duelling sword have the heavy attack stab?
Sorry to cut in ya'll, is it worth switching out Surge for Warp Nexus IV? thought it would be more reliable without having nexus on the bottom slot but eh... kinda eh
No lmao
Hmm
So surge overall still better?
Mk 4
Well actually
It depends on your build
But with guaranteed crits and 9% from talents
You either keep surge or swap for transfer peril imo
I'll probably just hold onto this until I can get one with warp nexus iv on one of the blessings I guess
You should crit plenty already
Still can't get this blessing lmao no luck
err I'm running the +5 crit chance but not the crit aura
@spice veldt pokeyy
with warp siphon tree
Hmm... might try true aim then actually
wth are you 1 shotting mutants with the dueling swords lol
more than 1shotting
Mk 4 dsword moment
What is that FOV tho holy shit is this quake pro?
low fov gives me motion sickness
god damn if u dont mind, whats your talent tree for that?
just play 3rd person for 360 degree fov 5head
I am using the same sword.
MK 4 dsword is so good 💯
im working on getting this one running and loving it
one shot regular mutants on 5
I've seen some in incredible below 30 players. They are not the norm, but I've seen them. The level 20 vet on a high int hunting grounds WAS NOT IT.
Definitely a lovely start
Can only improve
What stats do you prioritise in m4 dsword?
fin mob dam
ayee
A lot of these players who are good likely have experience on other characters tbf, or even other similar games like Verm. Mind you, you might just be running into an actual prodigy haha
combustion and wildfire make the build crazy
believe it or not
i got more pokes
Ive been trying to make a melee psyker build but was called crazy by my homies
the lvl 20 was worse than mose hersery players
amen, I really like the duel sword
and its moveset
more pokeys for u
is it the FoV that it seems like you're dashing at lightspeed?
60% movespeed from perks
dayum
- 80mob sword
you're flying
It's actually incredibly good and pairs well with almost everything in psyker's set.
Want more CC? Go surge and/or vent shriek
Want mass murder? Go assail (until it's nerfed lol)
Want long range sniping? Go Brain Burst
Melee psyker is great, and has so many flavours
Can't believe this is gona get more busted in the next patch lmao
how so
Isn't there a buff to the dueling swords
I think people are way too reductive when looking at the classes. 'Vet is only sniper, Zealot is all melee-rushing'
Is there? That sounds fun

🤔
yeee
IM GETTING BUFFED
You gona go ham bruhh
LMAO
I genuinely have more fun with melee psyker than anything else in melee tbh, even without a fully specialized build
they have the best feeling melee weapons
back when i ran force sword it still felt so good
deimos feels amaaazing
thats exactly what I said, the tree has to much crit and speed related synergies its crazy to think its only good for ranged elite deletion
It literally doesn't need any of these things besides the cleave, but hey I'm not complaining. They'll just be absollutely silly now
Assail meta gona be m4 dsword meta soon
if heavy is getting buffed
Mind you those notes are only provisional and subject to change. So don't get your hopes too high
Eh it’s heavy is buffed to compensate the fact that a bunch of enemy health values are also getting buffed
all part of the community mindset that gets created when meta-chasing
thats the sword
They seem pretty set on it tho
Dswords in an awkward place in terms of balancing
In that the moment it’s heavies gets nerfed it’s fucked
Indeed, it's the online game's curse.
Yeah, hard to keep up with ragers getting 50% more HP 
Cuz everyone will just run deimos
yeah deimos will replace
if they nerf heavy
l1 h2 l1 h2 l1 h2
i hit my breakpoints so easily though
so a nerf on heavy attack woudlnt hurt that badly
even without building into it this plus kinetic is silly
I NEED THAT
NOW
LIKE RNRNRN
:P
if only i could get this fitted in to this build
id lose -5% peril generation
not worth tbh
the main point is go into horde
when high peril i push a couple times and peril goes down
rince and repeat
best dueling sword go..
yes
Keep first one and put warp nexus on it
or seems to
Warp lighting also?
whats best stats, cara/crit chance, and warp nexus/flurry?
what we thinkin boys, do we cop
What is that ui?
hey thanks for the response ! sortry for responding so late. What does warp resistance and quell speed do exactly?
That one is not meta, but kinda fun
Critical is actually calculated before you hit the enemy, so it's just 2 bullets going out instead of 1
so 2x damage then, with like 30-40% crit chance ideally?
basically is surge better or flurry?
On Psyker, with Void Staff, you can use both
with the weapon selected in your inventory, you can press [V] which brings you into an screen with information, where you can then hover over each stat bar to see what they do
warp resistance affects the amount of peril generated, and quell speed affects the amount of peril you quell per tick
Flurry is meta. This Void came with both crit centered perks, so I made it like that
Maccabian MK IV
how'd you get your fov up that high
i used something like that for vt2 but it doesn't seem to take in darktide
plasteel 🥹
dawg what is the point of this being on the scoreboard 😭
doors/crates? no idea why though
for hab dreyko enjoyers
all 2 of them
So you know who hit the dang button when you have a wave of dogs and specials on you.
just made this, only good thing i've crafted so far
which blessing you think I should toss for warp transfer?
not sure personally
leaning towards replacing Warp Nexus tho
Does faster charge speed for staves mean less peril build up or just that it builds faster?
I love this sword
looks pretty great
think this mk4 dueling sword is worth picking up from melk?
Any suggestions which blessing I should put Warp Transfer on? Not ready for super cutting edge of the meta, just want to make a good voidstrike staff
dumpstatted finesse on dueling sword isnt ideal
id grab it for t4 riposte if you dont have it already
it lets me buy items without actually being on the game :p
the finesse isn't losing an awful lot, 2.37x weakspot/crit vs. 2.48 on 80% stat
and like, 1.5% attack speed
huh...how does that work? i mean, i dont doubt it but its kinda wild that the game even allows that.
Considering the changes that may be on the horizon, I think melk finally has somthing worth the coin.
it works as of right now, i can say that for certain
wasn't there a mk4 dueling sword guide floating about here? I can't seem to find it
not just that
like blessings?
I know riposte / uncanny strike at least, not sure on perks
whatever you don't already one shot pretty much
i run maniacs and carapace
makes it 2 shot body against muties if i whiff the head, and makes crushers easier to deal with if i have to melee
unyielding is great too if youre not running bb, you can do some very good headshot dmg on bosses
yup
ive not used scrier's yet
the bubble is just too nutty
addicted to spamming bubbles
what's funny is they didn't acknowledge that bug in the patch 14 notes, heh
instead theyre buffing duelling sword 😭
this was an emperor's gift
can I fix her?
WOOOOOO BABY THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO SEEEE
i think thats kinda bricked
the blessings are both p bad and id like at least one reload speed increase
replace both blessings with surgical/handcannon and its fine
weakspot and crit as perks arent terrible on a revolver
idk if i like psker anymore but then again im only level 16 with mine
oh wait this isnt zealot chat oops
Any thoughts on this? I don’t really know the meta, I know voidstrike is good.
i think both blessings are good
alright
i personally run both of those blessings, havent had a need for warp transfer
I’m a little worried about the low quell speed tho
its not particularly noticeable
Fair
especially if you run the 30% quell speed in talents
Hey @spice veldt did you notice that shards you toss out before swapping to laspistol stack dumdum?
you can still spam, you just need to manually quell
Fair
im not a fan of transfer peril because i like getting to high peril fast
What do you think I should swap my other perk to then?
for the 20% damage increase
What's turning you off?
Fair
Gloryhunter is good and so is crit chance.
Check you break points and put on the appropriate perk (might be unarmored). Maybe even reload spead.
The other bless is more you play style. CR for crit rate as you have fewer in the chamber. Surgical if your shoot on the slower side.
i feel weak asf
i would swap ranged damage elites to carapce
dun dun dun
damage wise
i heard about it before but forgot about it so i haven't used it
I was thinking + damage to maniacs, but that works too
good?
30+ is a whole different game, but valid.
For what level?
What are you running? Trauma is super weak at low levels cause the stats scale really harshly
This isn’t good for lvl 30
im still level 15
xD
i just got the game 8 hours ago and tried vet and i hated it
everything is good, dw about crafting too much til you hit level 30
things get expensive to craft
Yeah vet’s in a rough place atm they’re reworking him
From what I heard
I recommend using guns, purgatus or voidstrike till about 20-25 where trauma and surge start picking up





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