psyker-class

[glad meadow]

but it would be less defense overrall since DD don't provide defensive benefit

[spice veldt]

no soulstealer or perilous combustion

i cri

[glad meadow]

soul stealer?

[spice veldt]

+15% toughness per warp kill

[glad meadow]

no, i use a gun

[spice veldt]

ah

[glad meadow]

i don't like staff

[spice veldt]

and smite

makes sense

[glad meadow]

well, i do just for uh

what is it

the surge staff

that one i like

but i like this game gun too much

like one of the rare game that surprass Destiny head and shoulder in gun feel for me

i just love clunky, snappy ass gun

[spice veldt]

yeah, the combat in this game feels really nice

[glad meadow]

but a staff and assail just kinda take away all of that

i would love to use bb more (its the best feeling blizt for me still)

but it is ass and take more point than smite

which even without the jump is still impressive horde control

i wonder if DD increase BB damage, though

hmm...

[spice veldt]

unfortunately not, besides the +damage% bonus

since BB has a weakspot multiplier of 1x

and thus receives zero benefit from +weakspot damage

[glad meadow]

dang, but still

it is the highest reliable source of damage or repeated BB that still relevant for other weapon

warp siphon is only 24%

BB stack with scrier gaze damage too iirc, so when you boop scrier you can just pop and quell repeatedly until you get to max peril naturally

but that more for Empowered Psionic i guess

[solar sand]

since assail almost always hits the head, does it benefit from disrupt weakspot damage?

[strong gulch]

That +5% ranged damage seems to increase BB damage tho. Just enough to get to some break points on my build.

[spice veldt]

ye, assail has a weakspot multiplier of 1.9x

[dim parrot]

man, making me not happy about bb honestly

[glad meadow]

lmao

[solar sand]

so is disrupt best for assail?

[glad meadow]

shit so assail is almost no brainer for DD then

[solar sand]

seems like a lot of bonus damage

[dim parrot]

bb and smite are just so meh

[spice veldt]

the unreliability of DD means that you may not often get the benefit

and the stacks drop all at once

so that's a very cautionary warning, esp if looting the map for materials

and there's the bug with marked enemies not glowing

it's unfortunately not as good as it sounds in general

but I'd bring it on melee maelstrom since I actually do maintain my stacks for the most part there

[glad meadow]

btw, how do you invite people for multiplayer in this game?

i've only been playing public but my area is full of chinese speaking people

so i can't really communicate or chat

[spice veldt]

either by friending them in-game or through steam (where they will then show up in your in-game socials to be invited)

[glad meadow]

man that's rough

[strong gulch]

Social menu. Your friends and people populating your mourningstar will pop there. Takes a moment to load.

[spice veldt]

you can also friend people in-game without having to friend them on steam or meet them in-game through here

If you click on [E] Find Player

this screen pops up, where your Fatshark Friend code will be shown

and then you can copy it to then be sent to a recipient

(fyi, clicking on the Fatshark Friend Code puts the code into your clipboard; you don't need to manually type it with your keyboard)

[fringe sapphire]

Surprised they haven't fixed infinite smite yet

[spice veldt]

the UI doesn't convey it very well that it does this

also am I high or is disrupt destiny providing a +10% damage boost instead of +15% at max stacks

[clear heath]

was the fatshark code thing always in the game? i only found out about it a few days ago

[spice veldt]

I think it was added along with when they added the fatshark account thingy to darktide?

[clear heath]

was that when they added cross platform?

[spice veldt]

maybe

[spice veldt]

nvm i'm high

i think

i get the correct damage bonus on guns

but not on brainburst

[still hearth]

Lol

[spice veldt]

or did i do something wrong

does the plogryn have a <1x hitzone multiplier on their head?

well it would be the same either way if i compared their before and after

hmm

[still hearth]

Doesn't BR use it's own numbers

[spice veldt]

HMMMMMMM

is it buffing brain burst instead of brain rupture

OH NO

so, brain rupture does 850 base damage, and brain rupture is just +50% of brain burst

[vagrant frigate]

@spice veldt same mission slightly more competent team

[spice veldt]

and i think the calculation is
850 * (1 + 0.5 + 0.15) = 1402.5,
which matches up with what I got

[vagrant frigate]

ranged kills

[spice veldt]

rip bozos

[vagrant frigate]

99% melee lol

[vital flint]

Is kinetic flayer a good talent?

Just played a match with it, feels not worth as it mostly triggers on random bs

But idk, maybe I'm not noticing some sort of value

[still hearth]

Nope

It's pure RNG if its ever useful

So not very good

[vital flint]

ok, thx. It did help me take down a mauler or two, but I mean, the overkill on those poor poxwalkers must have been insane

[still hearth]

It used to be better when you got warp charges foe every kill

But now it's kinda meh

It's not horrible since it can snap some elites but not great either

[vital flint]

KK, I mean, I'm at lvl 23, so I can find a better spot for the point

[still hearth]

It needs a reduced CD or something

Or just a lower chance but no cooldown

If it was like 2-3% to trigger no CD

I'd actually run Brain Rapture on Purgatus all the time

[vital flint]

Yeah, and idk if it even would be op seeing how it would mostly blow up poxwalkers

[still hearth]

With 3% you'll get a proc once every 33 hits or something like that I think. So yeah it's very unlikely to proc repeatedly on the same target

Even 10% is only one in 10 but the issue is that Psyker has a ton of AoE

[vital flint]

Ok, second and I guess last question for now. WHat's better for warp siphon, increased toughness regen or less peril generation? I looked at the toughness talents at the start, isn't it viable to build for large jumps in generated peril for toughness regen?

[still hearth]

Warp Siphon

Which toughness regen though?

Less peril generated can be good but usually Psykers like lots of peril

[summer prairie]

Hmm https://streamable.com/zbb4fe

[still hearth]

You've broken the system

[spice veldt]

lmao

[strong gulch]

You can take multiple toughness regen and extra toughness options up the tree, so I prefer the Inner tranq. There's also peril generation reduction nodes.

It's helpful for high peril generating builds

[vagrant frigate]

mk4 is insane

[strong gulch]

Here's an example of a toughness regen heavy regen build for surge + smite that doesn't even build past the keystone.

[vagrant frigate]

@spice veldt @strong gulch

[spice veldt]

kinetic flayer op

[fringe sapphire]

yoo that's crazy wtf is that

[spice veldt]

huh scrier's gaze makes you go zoom

[vagrant frigate]

my build

[strong gulch]

Standing on lit barrel for dominance

Imagine Gaze + DD zoomies

[vagrant frigate]

thats what that is

[strong gulch]

yee

[vagrant frigate]

i dont even have gaze up in the one where im so fast

o i do nvm

[strong gulch]

Pair it with the knife charged attack 😵‍💫

[vagrant frigate]

pokey just as fast

i outrun knives

who charge spam

[still hearth]

It isn't but whatever

Knife users suck at movement

[vagrant frigate]

okay well its as fast with scrier procced

when i ult off mission spawn

i can out run with ult

[strong gulch]

even with knife charge?? I guess I never paid attention

[still hearth]

That seems about right

[vagrant frigate]

thrust slide on mk4

is just as fast

with scrier ult

maybe i havent played w fast boys though

[still hearth]

Knife adds like 20% movespeed while charging heavies

[strong gulch]

I hope you're wearing the cape while you zoom around

[vagrant frigate]

i dont have it

this is my dude

saltz

[strong gulch]

Looks like I need a gaze DD knife build because lol

[vagrant frigate]

i havent tried knife

[strong gulch]

It's not as stronk as dueling swords

I only meme bleed tho

[summer prairie]

it's getting some buffs too in the next patch

[strong gulch]

😀

[vagrant frigate]

combustion + wildfire make my build nuts

it got twice as good when i put those on

you constantly burn everything around you

which means you hit EVERY breakpoint and if you somehow dont then they will just burn away after half a second

[crimson estuary]

I'm on the verge of tears over here. My Level 16 Psyker in Darktide is just too much for my "teammates" to handle. They're about as useful as a chocolate teapot, and I'm practically drowning in a sea of despair.

[still hearth]

The dodge node doesn't work btw

[vagrant frigate]

damn then they made dodging WAY easier since i last played

because nothing hits me

i figured it was the blessing

[still hearth]

It does nothing to the dodge times rn

So yeah it's just +1 dodge

[vagrant frigate]

i like +1 dodge anyways

[primal radish]

which melee wep has the most cleave

devils?

[vagrant frigate]

illisi alt fire i think

[still hearth]

Chainsword and devil claw

[summer prairie]

zoom https://streamable.com/7r4mwk

[strong gulch]

Thanks. I take.

[strong gulch]

omg 😂

[vagrant frigate]

u have to slide

for mega speed

[summer prairie]

not really

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-star-succession-gif-27712928

[vagrant frigate]

as you let go of lmb if u slide its nuts

[summer prairie]

it doesn't make you faster, just saves stam

[vagrant frigate]

ok i am wrong

i am noob

[vital flint]

Ok, thx a lot, will save this one

[lethal raptor]

What's your build?

[tepid beacon]

psykher early game experience is miserable

[viscid matrix]

use assail, its more powerful than any weapon you have access to until you are a higher level

grab it as soon as you can

[tepid beacon]

i am working twoards that , just the path to get there is miserable , il try out lighting aswell hopefully thats some good bc i just hate assail tbh , everyone and their mother uses it

[viscid matrix]

smite has very little damage, its very useful for locking down a bunch of enemies at once

[tepid beacon]

so assail is the only quote on quote good one? and its also op as fuck rn so itll prob get nerfed

[harsh urchin]

you can also use kantrael12 if you want

it's a very good early game weapon

[viscid matrix]

at this point its secondary is getting a massive buff next patch, and the primary is getting a slight nerf

tbh the changes they proposed are gonna make it way stronger

[tepid beacon]

so their buffing assail-?

lmao what

i feel like im playing warframe all overagian with buffs and nerfs that make me scratch my head

[tepid beacon]

and smite and brain burst get any buffs?

[tepid beacon]

il read when i finish this round

[viscid matrix]

i think BB is gonna actually reach breakpoints to possibly 2 tap crushers

[crimson estuary]

I'm doing good and killing a lot with assail but my teammates are dog water

[wet belfry]

Git gud lol

[tepid beacon]

read it , seems good

[wet belfry]

Honestly though if you play on lower levels its hard to expect good teammates.

[tribal radish]

@crimson estuary Try out smite and be a support 💪

[wet belfry]

Your best bet is to improve your own skill level to make sure that you can clutch, carry when situations call for it.

[tribal radish]

Easier than assail if you have bad teamates since you can stun stuff while they kill it

Plus you get to feel like you're palpatine

[tepid beacon]

rule of cool

[tribal radish]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-starwars-star-wars-emperor-gif-7513769

[wet belfry]

Ive been playing since beta and bad teammates have always existed. The solution was always the same.

I assure you though manageing to carry bad players is a very nice feeling.

Espically when its done in full-blown clutches.

[crimson estuary]

not when they can't block or dodge

[idle bay]

That makes it even better! To vitness either unbeatable inability to learn, or to se someone first blocks and dodges, it's like a bird hatching from the egg, or like baby making a first steps

[crimson estuary]

Like blocking a pox bomber with shield and not learning the mistake 5 times in a row is just a bruh

[idle bay]

It's a special rare kind of player 🙂 A special treat to see one in a wild.

[wet belfry]

Depending on your difficulty it can be judged differently

Malice, below its whatever

[crimson estuary]

Not when they're queuing in damnation

[idle bay]

If they they go into damnation with such skills then kark them sideways with thunderhammer

[lethal raptor]

I would recommend having a build that's made for picking up team mates. I have oune with a dome shield and purgatus staff.

[tepid beacon]

man smite seems so underwhelming

[crimson estuary]

haven't used that staff yet only used voidstrike

[lethal raptor]

Voidstrike is also pretty good, though I can't remember if it's easy to use at low levels. Do you have transfer peril on it?

[dim parrot]

sadly yes

[tepid beacon]

honestly by far psyker seems the most of a let down for me personally , just bc im not that into assail , its overused im tried of seeing it

veteran and zealot were good fun maxing out

[dim parrot]

feel ya

trying to get away from assail aswell

and bb is supposedly to slow

[tepid beacon]

maybe thatll change as i get to round lvl 15 and can make somewhat of a build going on that dosent resolve around the current meta , but untill then il just use it to get out the early game

[tepid beacon]

it seems like it , even if it werent i just dont rly see the point

tons of vets run krak nades , if not high dmg weapons

so its not like u rly need it

curious too see how viable assail will be after nerf , prob still very viable

[whole oxide]

the way psyker plays changes alot from T2-3 to T5+, some things that seem bad at low level are more valuable at high level

[lethal raptor]

I like brain burst, it's good for hitting fast moving or far away tragets. I think my purgatus build uses bb instead of assail.

Pretty reliable for bulwarks and crushers

[viscid matrix]

probably a good choice, since purga build lacks any long range options if you dont have BB

[lethal raptor]

Technically you can aim assail, but it doesn't have the same impact as bb.

[summer prairie]

flamers don't seem to do any damage to the shield

Also kind of comfy https://streamable.com/n1i6ox

[viscid matrix]

Shield, Smite and Warp Charges for a nice support build that can help keep everyone safe, and dictate where you hold

idiots learn that shields are a safe zone and will move into them

[hearty dagger]

Gentlemen, what's a good knife setup for psyker?

[summer prairie]

depends on what you want to use it for

[vestal fulcrum]

not running knife

Uncanny + some other blessing, perks wise likely Infested to remain some degree of efficiency against poxwalker hordes

[summer prairie]

just for boss dps mercy killer+one of the bleed blessings is best

[still hearth]

Just don't bother with hordes

You use the knife to kill big targets so you probably want horde clear range

[ripe crater]

@vestal fulcrum Is there anything more you can tell me about Psyker + blessings/perks that affect assail or blitz, or a place I can find this info? Or is the Handcannon blessing on Zarona revolver all there is?

[elfin nexus]

uncanny strike also gives assail rending

[vestal fulcrum]

I’m not that kind of nerd, it’s just one interaction that I happen to know of

[ripe crater]

Heh too bad ^^

[vestal fulcrum]

I wouldn’t get my hopes up about it staying in the game, though - it is likely an unintended behaviour and will eventually be ironed out

[ripe crater]

That's alright. I enjoy abusing Smite + OP

[vestal fulcrum]

So that the only things that modify assail’s performance are feats or external effects from teammates

[ripe crater]

for as long as it'll last

[viscid matrix]

its been in the game since launch, and its in vermintide as well

[ripe crater]

feats = talents?

[vestal fulcrum]

Yes

[viscid matrix]

blessings affecting everything else when you swap off the weapon has been around in Vermintide and Darktide for a very long time

[vestal fulcrum]

Patch 14 notes have had acknowledged that interaction of Manstopper with melee having infinite cleave was not intended/will be fixed.

[viscid matrix]

thats different to rend/crit/power from blessigs applying to blitzs when you swap to them

[vestal fulcrum]

Them blessings bleeding out to other weapons/abilities is not my problem, but it’s not like I can not make it obvious to the devs that this probably is not the way it was intended to be

People don’t report this sort of stuff, for one reason or another

[viscid matrix]

its been a thing for a year for darktide, they are aware of it, its been discussed everywhere since beta, i doubt they will change it any time soon, if ever

[obtuse walrus]

Hello chat

And Fellow Brain Burst Enjoyers 💪

[near wyvern]

The boss DPS on knife is still a meh tho

DS4 and Deimos both do that better with uncanny strike

[summer prairie]

maybe easier, but not higher dps

knife slightly higher

in theory

[near wyvern]

Wasn't that big off a difference in psych when I last tested + in reality you can't get off knife attacks that often

And then you have the abysmal mutant damage on knife as well

[summer prairie]

I wouldn't call it abysmal, just not one-shotting

[viscid matrix]

would rather 1shot mutie tbh

[elfin nexus]

yeah but Deimos doesn't have a cool punch

[obtuse walrus]

Y'all are using Melee?

Just uh use magic

[summer prairie]

might one-shot after the patch

[dense bramble]

It should do that without buffs man.

[jolly cedar]

Best blessings for Dueling swords?

[still hearth]

Uncanny Strike + Shred

[lyric folio]

What are some better blessings to aim for?

[wispy iris]

surge and void nexus

[lyric folio]

many thanks

Perks OK?

Mostly what I use the staff for

[still hearth]

You can only swap one blessing since you swapped a perk

So I'd go for Warp Nexus and Blazing Spirit on that one

And get a new one for Surge + Warp Nexus

[lyric folio]

Gotcha

[still hearth]

But I think that's the perks you'd want on a Voidstrike

But Surge + Nexus right now is so strong

[lethal raptor]

Transfer peril is also nice

[still hearth]

Since you can easily have 30% crit chance and also get confirmed criticals

[verbal bear]

lilbro dropped like this is it workable

[elfin nexus]

terrifying barrage to warp nexus and poxwalkers to flak would be fine

[hearty dagger]

Imho if you're gonna run surge staff you may as well just run Smite at this point since infinite cast+free bc psionics until patch

[elfin nexus]

why?

surge does the same thing with damage

I'd rather have bb lol

[spice oar]

Surge and smite are different things now gameplay wise

[summer prairie]

https://streamable.com/s60jyr

[elfin nexus]

yeah unfortunately you smiting a horde doesn't do a whole lot for the team

I haven't seen anyone use it in any meaningful way beyond just stun locking themselves

[summer prairie]

What does that mean

[orchid shadow]

That's a Shriek though

[summer prairie]

Oh he is talking to someone else

[orchid shadow]

I was wondering if the Shriek damage was worth picking up

[summer prairie]

it's bad

just wanted to see if I can even get the damage high enough to kill groaners

[orchid shadow]

Still trying to wrap my head around all the changes. 😦

[bleak tulip]

you dont really need carapace, I'd take flak to trash clear better but its not wrong or anything, unyielding doesnt really stop your boss damage being crap but you could do worse, I'd go with crit if you plan on making this a surge void

maybe after the nerf cara is the thing but I kinda doubt it

I wanna say even with the 25% damage reduction against cara you'll still two shot em most of the time if youre doing crit shit

[hearty dagger]

Imho surging a horde in and of itself is also fairly useless since well, outside of a few scenarios where there's say 10 maulers mixed in, stunlocking a horde doesn't really accomplish a lot

Personally i just run purge staff

[unique mist]

ok I got warp flurry and rending shockwave as earned blessings on trauma staff now I just need a staff with a good base to slap it on to

also blazing spirit/warp flurry is significantly better on trauma staff than it is on voidstrike

trauma has a high damage aoe within its cast circle as well as a low damage stagger aoe in a pretty damn large radius around it right

That low damage aoe can crit and thus spread soulblaze

obviously not as good as purgatus for soulblaze but pair it with perilous combustion and wildfire, crit aura + crit node and you got yourself a steak house

soulblaze spread with carapace damage options

[bleak tulip]

blaze tauma is legit yeah

was one of the better staff options before the patch

still probably is, truth be told

its just annoying to play imo

[empty onyx]

Does Malefic Momentum also increase Soulburn tick damage?

[bleak tulip]

im gonna go with yes

its warp damage

[potent echo]

finally made a void to play before it gets nerfed

what a stupid weapon

[bleak tulip]

😎

fuckin one shotting crushers like its nobodies business

[edgy finch]

patch wen? i want my nerfs, i want to adapt

[bleak tulip]

no date

[stable silo]

now just snag a good mk4 dueling sword and shred dem enemies

i was surprised at how good it was after being a longtime FS slave

[idle bay]

Sire Melk melked me this today... I mean it's decent. Just replace zombies and t2 shred

[slate oasis]

if they're just making it so the voidstrike can't one shot ogryns I think it'll still be extremely good

I guess it depends on what all they do to it through so we'll see

[hearty dagger]

Oh man

->Vet wakes up DH
->Dies
-> DH aggros on me
-> Kite it for 5 hours with Kinetic Deflection and the power of dodging
->teammates don't attack the DH

[idle bay]

You can threw poke in between dodgling and blocking just to tickle it down bit by bit 🙂

[hearty dagger]

Then they got wiped by a Chaos Spawn

[idle bay]

I hope it chewed on them 🙂

[hearty dagger]

@idle bay I was, though the problem was, A, i'm on knife, B, was out of psionics and didn't want to get peril from BB

In their defense i was going loop de loops around a wall but they could have caught up

And when i did get knocked they did shoot it but it was way too late at that point

[slate oasis]

I hadn't seen a demonhost get woken for months and then decided to finish leveling all the other classes after the recent update and in 95% of those games someone would wake them up

[bleak tulip]

I mean new players are a good thing for the game

[idle bay]

They will burn out on crafting at some point sooner or later.

[hearty dagger]

In my case the people were all lvl 30

[young meteor]

Just so you know, DH only aggros one person if the rest of the group doesnt attack her

[hearty dagger]

Welp, we all mauled the DH when the vet woke it up

But suddenly the gunfire stopped when i started kiting it

[young meteor]

unlucky then :/

[bleak tulip]

all I can say is that there is a tremendous amount of lv 31's who seemingly havent played since release doing dumb shit in damnation

[mental rock]

Always has been

[young meteor]

No, when there was only 2k concurrent player, you could genuinely be a walkbot and still win.

[hearty dagger]

More new players=more tools generally

[mental rock]

Nah, there was still bad players

[hearty dagger]

By tools i mean philips head screwdrivers that are bent at a 270 degree angle

Not only does it not work as intended it may as well be telling me to go screw myself

[plucky flax]

Way more sub-30s, and fresh 30s in auric playlist after patch tho.

[wise ruin]

worth it?

[slate oasis]

I don't resent the players for being new and not knowing. it was just funny seeing the influx of new people attacking it and getting annihilated

[bleak tulip]

but it to eat a blessing I guess, base itself is probably about the same

[wise ruin]

what blessings to use on the obscurus one? didnt play much with deflector so idk which one to replace

[bleak tulip]

oh its an obs

I guess dont bother at all then

[wise ruin]

is it that bad now? lol

didnt play since they added the 2 other ones so now im just testing around

[bleak tulip]

yeah its the worst of the bunch

I would prob still eat a blessing just for the future when the unfuck it but for now its pretty pointless

[hearty dagger]

Tbh sometimes when i use the illisi i do wish i had the Obscurus since damn the Illisi's lacking in single target

[bleak tulip]

thats what the deimos is for

[plucky flax]

Illisi is weak against ogryns and monster but great single target against specials.

Make sure you slap maniac perk then use special action.

[hearty dagger]

Haven't used it, but the attacks it has don't really seem like they would be good in a horde scenario

[still hearth]

But that's the same for the Obscurus

They're both bad at hordes

And Deimos is better single target and mobility

[bleak tulip]

well no, but with the amount of shit we have now you dont really use swords for hordeclear tbh

half the staves and blitzes do better hordeclear

shit, all staves but surge arguably

[hearty dagger]

If you go light->heavy the obscurus has mostly horizontal swings so you can still clear hordes pretty decently

[bleak tulip]

sure but why bother when illisi exists is more the point

[hearty dagger]

The point is the Obscurus can still do some solid single target when the situation calls for it

Whereas the Illisi feels like it tends to choke when dealing with lone ragers

[bleak tulip]

I mean its not unusable, its just flat worse than the others

[hearty dagger]

Yeah, it's too unspecialized to be really worth it

Though the Deimos i feel is way too rigid to work well

[still hearth]

I mean.. Obscurus heavy

It's alright

It hits 4 poxwalkers

But the Deimos H1 is identical

And it's H2 does a lot of single target damage

[hearty dagger]

Definitely felt like it hit more than 4 back when i still used obscurus

[still hearth]

But the Obscurus has weird angles.

It did

Because it used to hit 6

Now it hits 4

[hearty dagger]

By back when i mean before the Illisi and Deimos became a thing

Anyhow, anyone else feel like most matchmaking psykers tend to be lacking?

[bleak tulip]

most matchmaking players tend to be lacking

[hearty dagger]

Saw a guy who was so intent on Assail spam he wouldn't swap off of it when there was a single melee in his face caving his skull in

[bleak tulip]

I mean you can use assail like that right now

so people do

[hearty dagger]

I get it, i like Assail too but i tend to save it for when there's shit like ragers mixed in with chaff

[mellow gorge]

I don't understand the assail only guys, I have too much fun one poking elites with the calvary sword

[hearty dagger]

Not when something is straight up in my damn face

[bleak tulip]

why save it when its back in like 10 seconds?

thats the main issue with it

[hearty dagger]

True

[bleak tulip]

shit regens too fast

damage would be fine if you actually had to choose when to use it

[hearty dagger]

The nerf/revamp they're giving it will hopefully put it into a balanced spot

[bleak tulip]

it wont

people will spam it even harder because itll still be decent at horde clear but you gotta shit out more shards to do it

its entirely the wrong way to fix it

the right click damage thing is cool tho

[mellow gorge]

The right click being budget BB is neat

[unique mist]

they should remove the 30% regen node (and replace it with something else)

[bleak tulip]

I never play with the regen node and still have it up all the time

[mellow gorge]

Monkey paw, now it's 30% damage

[unique mist]

well it still wont be too good against armored targets

[hearty dagger]

Personally i'd change Assail to be smth like:
M2: The current buff they're giving it
M1: Have the knifes float around you to act as passive hordeclear

[unique mist]

But it will make it really nice to get a special unit with

[mellow gorge]

I don't even use assail now, BB is more fun

[unique mist]

I never play with ghe node either

[mellow gorge]

Plus I will never get over how much I enjoy reaching 100 meters to rip the face off a sniper

[hearty dagger]

I play with the node and end up running into the problem of running out of knives to rapid fire when i really need them

[bleak tulip]

BB is still too slow and wastes time, assail is silly and smite is piss poor, I basically dont even use blitzes anymore at all

[hearty dagger]

Which i think the funny quickplay fellas i run into also struggle with

[normal radish]

I like Assail as a thing to handle specials, shit's a godsend with the Poxhound mission modifier

[hearty dagger]

BB with the Empowered Psionics is pretty solid i'd say

Basically a free snipe

[bleak tulip]

its slow

and I can just snipe with void

[unique mist]

I really enjoy voidstrike with surge, it rips hordes to shreds and annihilates everything but monstrosities

[hearty dagger]

EP does speed it up

[bleak tulip]

yeah, and its still not fast enough for how little damage it does

[hearty dagger]

I've got a surge voidstrike tho i need to change up my build since rn my build is focused on purge staff

[unique mist]

I like BB with warp charges and vent

[mellow gorge]

This is what I use

[bleak tulip]

I tried EP BB and it was still bad imo

[hearty dagger]

Personally it's fine with EP

[mellow gorge]

I enjoy the og psyker kit alot, so I don't bother with half of pysker lmao

[unique mist]

low cooldown, knocks down enemies to help with a revive, and can be spammed with warp charges to give high uptime on the improved BB on combat ability use perk

[mellow gorge]

Yep

Even funnier to add the fire modifier to it

The wave is huge, like comically huge

[hearty dagger]

Fellas, do you prefer headshot scrier's gaze or peril scrier's gaze?

[unique mist]

for me, as an assail voidstrike player who doesnt take regen node, my main horde clear is my voidstrike staff, I use my melee for a bit of hordeclear too but Assail is reserved for "oh fuck" moments to quickly blend close range enemies, regen toughness, clear a rez and then I switch to my melee after I run out of shards

[unique mist]

tough choice

[mellow gorge]

I like the chnages to the cav sword,

Poking mutants in the eye is neat

[hearty dagger]

As purge assail, i keep it for similar purposes and also as a bigger ranged option, though recently i've swapped over to BB from Assail

[unique mist]

peril scriers lets you actually even think about using warp abilities in Scriers but it's still a big ick because you get to 100 so quick and have to keep quelling

[hearty dagger]

Also ngl Headshot Scrier+Combat Knife goes hard

[unique mist]

on the other hand, headshot scriers lets you build into that melee scriers gaze playstyle

[naive imp]

How much damage does smite currently do?

With empower

[unique mist]

not much

[bleak tulip]

anywhere from none to piss all

[naive imp]

Is it like 7?

[hearty dagger]

Man, i was somewhat hyped for Smite but goddamn it's ass

[fresh reef]

Like 35-50 on stagger, and around 11 per tick

[hearty dagger]

It's like Surge but somehow i hate it even more

[arctic vector]

What blessings for void staff?

[hearty dagger]

It would honestly be cool if charged Smite built up damage that gets dealt when you let go

[unique mist]

warp nexus and Surge (the blessing) or warp flurry and transfer peril

[hearty dagger]

Y'know, have it act as a sort of channeled tankbuster and uncharged crowd control

[unique mist]

My idea was smite could summon lightning bolts on sustained targets to damage

[hearty dagger]

Yeah

[unique mist]

Oh my god

I am so sleep deprived

[hearty dagger]

Or even just have it gradually increase damage the longer a target is affected by it

As it stands it's just complete dogshit and people still use it for some reason

[unique mist]

"Sustained targets to damage" jesus christ I am going to bed

[hearty dagger]

Man, imagine if Smite could also be a charged melee hit

Somewhat like a Thunder Hammer except instead of a hammer you just punch a Rager directly in the face

[arctic vector]

Can this be worked with or should I just scrap it

[hearty dagger]

Like, uncharged is constant CC, charged is a melee hit/arc wave

[thin finch]

Leave my CC baby as a CCBaby

[naive imp]

So that’ll be around 100 after patch on stagger and 20ish ticks

[hearty dagger]

@thin finch Unfortunately your baby isn't breathing.

[naive imp]

That’s actually really good. Lol

[thin finch]

It's okay,as long as it CC , it can hold it's breath as long as it wants

[hearty dagger]

My they/them in yahweh the baby is suffocating to death we need to perform a tracheotomy

[thin finch]

Smite is fine
It just need a lower peril generation

[hearty dagger]

Smite needs more damage

[thin finch]

No it does not

[chilly blaze]

what should i change on this?

[hearty dagger]

As a blitz it only serves to do something a surge staff can already do and lock you in a state of being completely useless to your team except for stunning some enemies.

[thin finch]

It's a support CC tools ,if you want to clear dem hoard ,use assail

[thin finch]

Man did not try the surge staff since the update

[warm karma]

This is gonna be so fun. Single best change coming in patch 14

[hearty dagger]

I have not used the surge staff ever since it was like 2 in the morning and i wanted to sleepwalk through a damnation run

While still contributing something

[warm karma]

These patch notes got me excited for psyker again

[thin finch]

So you are an idiot ,but the kind that talk confidently about a subject he knows nothings

[naive imp]

Do you guys think purg/smite will be good post patch? Tbh my only issue with smite is monstrosity damage

[still hearth]

Yes

Its good now

[warm karma]

I've heard that it's very fun

[still hearth]

And its not nerfed

In fact I'd say its buffed

So

Definitely

[hearty dagger]

I'm an idiot that believes the surge staff is ass and doesn't use it because of that.

[thin finch]

More seriously Smite is the old surge and surge turned into a few target rapid dps option.
Smite is not made to kill but hold , it does not need damage to perform this role.
Just use assail ifbyou want to clear room ,simple as

[still hearth]

The Surge staff is only ass if you compare it to the overtuned options rn.

[warm karma]

I mean, the variety of bugs with smite are being fixed

[hearty dagger]

Personally i prefer using the non-telekinetic version of knives to clear the room

[warm karma]

I'm pretty sure the charged attack is being fixed, despite the patch notes not actually saying so explicitly

[hearty dagger]

Bri'ish gaming

[still hearth]

There's barely any room for a CC only weapon in this game. And there's already weapons that do CC and kills things.

[hearty dagger]

Yeah

[still hearth]

So the point is pretty moot

If you bring a Trauma staff you can stagger just about as much

And they also have to get up

Which means you don't have to hold out your lightning fingers

[hearty dagger]

It honestly comes down to:
"Surge is the best staff in the game because it can stagger any enemy"
"Why bother with staggering when you could just, y'know. Kill them."

[thin finch]

Sure it's easier to pull out your trauma or purgatus than standing here.
But I don't think there is one that allow to hold a full pack of elite like smite do

[hearty dagger]

Replace Surge with Smite

[hearty dagger]

->Purge spam to stagger pack of elites

->Assail to wipe them out
->Voidstrike

[still hearth]

I mean there's some situations where Smite is great.

But 95% of the time?

I keep it in my pocket

And kill shit

Meanwhile

Assail you use 95% of the time

[hearty dagger]

Or even just run in with KD and let them waste their time attacking you while your homies gun them down

[still hearth]

Because its too strong

And BB is also a pocket pick

But people try to force using these

[warm karma]

I like the direction assail's going with this patch too

[naive imp]

What if psyker gets infinite smite but it does more damage?

[still hearth]

And the Empowered Psionics also don't help

[naive imp]

Haha

[hot coral]

its cool to feel like emperor palpatine and lightning shock everyone with ur fingers

and it lights up the area

[still hearth]

I mean I wanted them to give it like +400% damage on Empowered Psionics

[hot coral]

lightning very cool

[still hearth]

But definitely not infinite

[naive imp]

Tbh if smite isn’t infinite, it does need a 400% boost or whatever. Haha (kidding mostly)

[thin finch]

BB has it's value in maelstrom auric

[naive imp]

Will be curious how it works after patch

[still hearth]

Aside from "I literally can't reach them" there's better options in most cases.

The fact that the buffs to it also doesn't do what they say they do doesn't help.

[hearty dagger]

Ok, now that i've checked out the Surge staff, i feel like switching how Surge and Smite works would make sense

[warm karma]

There's definitely things not listed in these patch notes that are surely coming

[warm karma]

Smite is supposed to have a single-target attack but it doesn't work rn

[still hearth]

It sure works

It just doesn't do what it says it does

[hearty dagger]

Hold up, you mean smite's just bugged?

[still hearth]

[warm karma]

Yeah smite is bugged as shit

[hearty dagger]

Yeah

[still hearth]

The RMB actually does more damage than the direct damage LMB

[hearty dagger]

Charged and uncharged literally do the same numbers

[still hearth]

Because it charges up the damage ticks faster

[warm karma]

the RMB is supposed to be the single target option and do like WAY more damage

[still hearth]

The LMB is really only useful to instantly zap and knock someone over

Since it seems to stagger more at the end

[warm karma]

But in current build it's kind of the opposite of what it's supposed to be

I hear from a friend that despite no mention of it in the notes, that's being fixed

[still hearth]

Well my dad said it isn't being fixed

So take that

[warm karma]

damb :(

[hearty dagger]

guys guys guys

my cat says smite is getting buffed and when you use it you one shot nurgle and save atoma

clearly she knows exactly what she's talking about guys

[thin finch]

With EP i chain Elite brain pop while the horde keeps my team busy.
I kinda agree (stub anyone). And I'm glad it's geting buffed.
But BB has always some quality offering infinite range and safety.
I think it is more viable than most people think

[hearty dagger]

Yeah

BB is 100% more viable than people think

[still hearth]

With EP I get 500 poxwalkers onto me any time I take out my hands.

They literally teleport onto me??

[warm karma]

BB is a chaff magnet, pull it out and all the poxies just swarm you

They know

[hearty dagger]

That is why you slap the BB onto the guy you want to give testicular torsion to and then start dodge-sliding

[thin finch]

Just put your team mate in between

[thin finch]

They feel the call of the warp!

[still hearth]

They're off doing something else...

I just want a big Ogryn to protect me while I do my Psyker things

[thin finch]

Ogryj shield fren 🙂

[still hearth]

I mean why

Does it take

2.2s to charge BB

[hearty dagger]

They're off waking up the Daemonhost with bass boosted carameldansen

[still hearth]

With empowered and ability use speed

????

That's at least 1s too long

[thin finch]

I ran a purgatus /BB build and I was clearing both horde and those gang of gunner so it was ok

[hearty dagger]

Tbh most dinguses will burn BB on straight up regular ass enemies for some reason

[thin finch]

BB being super long is an issue tho, will never deny that.
Sienna ubdead staff is waay better

[hearty dagger]

While it's best used as a fallback when you can't reach the enemy or you can reach it, but attacking said enemy would result in you getting your skull caved in

[thin finch]

Psyker still traumatized about losing their warp charges be like

[still hearth]

Pavlov's dogs

"Must BB.. for warp charges.."

[inland whale]

how do i get tier 4 perks in first column when crafting weapons trying to get blessings

[hearty dagger]

Luck

[inland whale]

pain

[acoustic osprey]

Having high base from Brunt's helps

[bright mica]

smites m1 isnt single target damage its just a quick uncharged zap

[steel flame]

pain suffering luck and money

[thin finch]

That is surge m2 we were talking about (probably)

[fresh reef]

Void surge m1 is kinda shockingly effective at killing elites

Genuinely considering running it on Trauma

[digital narwhal]

That just makes EP necessary though

Why not a buff to base damage?

[still hearth]

Because that's madness

If Smite does damage all the time

Imagine how broken that would be

(It would still do that with Emp but we don't talk about that)

[digital narwhal]

You wouldn't have to giga buff the base damage, but enough so EP isn't a must pick if you want to kill Groaners n' Poxies somewhat quickly at all, and then any +%age damage increases from EP also ramp due to a higher base value

[zinc phoenix]

A lot of us old timers still have the habit of using it to maintain warp charges

I have to remind myself it doesn’t work that way anymore all the time

[zinc phoenix]

But what if I don’t care about smite damage and just whip it out to freeze muties and crushers and maulers oh my

Then I can go warp charges to reduce my reeeee cooldown

[digital narwhal]

You say that as if damage buffs will take away the stun

[zinc phoenix]

And void spam

[digital narwhal]

[still hearth]

Okay so just

Make the LMB and instant knock over

And it's a long range projectile

It'll stagger anything and costs lots of peril

[zinc phoenix]

This would save my finger so much pain

[still hearth]

The RMB charges up for up to 5 seconds

And when you release it zaps enemies one by one

Stunning X enemies based on charge for like

3s or something

But it doesn't stun big enemies

There you go

Now you have a much more interactive thing

[zinc phoenix]

I want more powers that consoom peril for cool bonus effects

Trading peril for fire is a great start

[still hearth]

I doubt we'll get much more of that sadly

Hopefully they add more nodes to Shriek

And rework the other node because wtf

200 damage

WITH FALLOFF??

[digital narwhal]

Wait, it has damage fall off?

[still hearth]

Yes

[digital narwhal]

Bruh

[zinc phoenix]

Are you fucking kidding?

[still hearth]

Nope lets see if I have a clip

[digital narwhal]

I was about to say it should do 200-600 damage, based on Peril, but that caught me off guard

[zinc phoenix]

“Can’t have this basic bish damage be too effective”

“Better make it weaker than las pistol”

[still hearth]

I'm pretty sure its actually that the damage is based on your current peril

Which you know

Goes down when you shout

[zinc phoenix]

oh my god no

[still hearth]

But I don't have any proof that's the actual reason

[zinc phoenix]

No

[thin finch]

They are not stunned if they are dead

[zinc phoenix]

You’re saying the level of peril during the shout affects how much damage it does to mobs? Reeeeeee

[still hearth]

I didn't clip it

But you can try it in Psykarnum

I should try it at 0% peril

To see if its distance or peril

[thin finch]

Anyone taking that node is a crazy man

[still hearth]

Yes

Like I'd rather you take Mind in Motion

Than that node

[thin finch]

I don't even understand hiw fatshark put those two nodes next to each other and was like
"Oh yeah someone will surely take the left one "

[still hearth]

Mind in Motion is kinda nice rn though since its only one node

Yep

It has falloff on distance

Lmao

Even at 0% peril the damage drops

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1zvHZ0mABpFpRd/d1337vMndTge?invite=cr-MSw2OG8sMTYwMDY1NDYwLA

[potent echo]

value

[still hearth]

I mean on like

Malice

It will one-shot hordes right

😄

[potent echo]

the damage scales with peril right

[still hearth]

Yeah

Up to 200 base

[potent echo]

200 and dropping

[still hearth]

Meanwhile Soulblaze ticking for like

60 damage per second if you shout at 85%+ peril

[digital narwhal]

It should do 200-600 based on Peril

no damage fall off.

[still hearth]

Soulblaze does 45 damage per tick on flak at 6 stacks

So it takes 3.75s to get more damage than the instant shout

But then it ticks for several more seconds at the same damage

So it does several times more damage...

[zinc phoenix]

It comes down to net present value

Do you prefer your damage instant but low or over like 10s but high

I think the instant damage could be somewhat higher or include a heavier stagger to comp tho

Being able to reee someone out of a monstrosity would be handy as heck

[digital narwhal]

200-600 damage and increased Stagger based on Peril

[still hearth]

The second part is already how shout works though

So I guess it would be even more stagger

[digital narwhal]

Enough to stagger a Monstrosity, me thinks

[zinc phoenix]

also cowbell

EVEN MORE COWBELL

I wish they’d include more wacky stuff with warp, not just creepy voice man

[severe folio]

i want to ask, what mod is this

[vital flint]

I've been wondering

Isn't surge staff redundant with smite and vice versa?

I mean, right now it isn't due to the funny unlimitied powaaaah glitch

(Which I wish was kept in the game)

[severe folio]

smite and surge staff are 2 different entity

smite is the old surge staff in which it shock a bunch of enemies to delay their advance

the current surge staff is like a violent thunder that struck the enemy soul away

[digital narwhal]

YOOO

[severe folio]

yoooooo

[thin finch]

As it stand ,the stagger gives you enough room that the instant 200 damage would still be pointless.
Plus never being aware ,it would be a gamble if it either kills the crusher about to crush your face or not.

My assumption is that it was a value present Before the rework of warpfire and they did not change it based on the warpfire buff

[digital narwhal]

Just need some Plasteel now

[vital flint]

Ahhhhh, ok, thanks a lot. So in this setup, the blitz becomes a mass crowd control tool, surge stuff is an elite sniper and melee should be an anti-crowd option?

[zinc phoenix]

Rolls: stamina, sprint efficiency

[severe folio]

thats what i did

[digital narwhal]

:(

I'm hoping to get Flak + Unarmoured and Warp Nexus + Blazing Spirit for that Trauma

[vital flint]

Ok, the new surge looks fun

Btw, are any pistols worth using on psyker rn?

[digital narwhal]

Shredder, Laspistol, and Revolver?

Ye

[severe folio]

i know someone sent me a laspistol build

and im using a recon lasgun build right now

[vital flint]

I remember shredder being talked about a lot some time ago

But haven't played in some time so idk what I missed

Ok, gonna try and find a use for one of these

Want to play with some of the more obscure weapons and I feel like psyker can make it work

[spare light]

should I reroll the crit damage perk or the finesse blessing (to a better version)?

[whole oxide]

unarmoured not really needed on trauma since patch

[digital narwhal]

I like being able to two shot Dreg Gunners instead of three shotting them

[copper torrent]

I would go replace precog with riposte 4.

[digital narwhal]

Plus, I'll be using Soulblaze with it, and I'll have my Staff out more often, so-

[vital flint]

Wtf, shredder scores so many crits

[digital narwhal]

All automatic weapons do

[plucky flax]

Dreg gunner? That's flak.

[still hearth]

Okay so

[digital narwhal]

Wait shit

ye

lmao

[still hearth]

Brain Bust is actually slower now right

[digital narwhal]

My mind got Brain Bursted

[spare light]

Ooo, that's a good one too

[vital flint]

Didn't play much with them because my aim with them is shit lol

[plucky flax]

There's no elite unarmoured and you 1 shot everything unarmoured already. Unarmoured is wasted perk on trauma.

[vital flint]

But feeling like antax + shredder combo with scrier's gaze should be funny

[spare light]

I feel like it's impossible to play BB without EP

[plucky flax]

Flak + crit chance for blaze trauma build.

[still hearth]

It feels way slower than before patch so idk if I'm crazy

[whole oxide]

ya, BR feels fine with EP, but without is painful

[spare light]

Granted, I only started like a week or 2 ago, so I have no idea about how it was then

[vagrant frigate]

weapon customization mod

[digital narwhal]

Carapace + Flak on Trauma then, ye?

[vagrant frigate]

idk if I'm allowed to post server links but the server to get it is darktide misders

[plucky flax]

I only play blaze trauma. Flak crit chance for blaze trauma.

[digital narwhal]

Well, Carapace + Flak or Maniac + Flak, depending on what's locked

Unyielding might not be bad either for Reapers, Bulwarks, and Monstrosities

[spare light]

is penetration the dump stat on MK4 duel sword?

[digital narwhal]

What?

no

Pen is never a dump on any weapon

[spare light]

Yeah see, that's what I thought lmao

[lethal folio]

don't dump it, but it doesn't need to be maxed.

[whole oxide]

it's not as important as damage/finesse

[spare light]

I have no idea what's a good dump stat on this thing

[severe folio]

i cant find it on nexus

[west smelt]

No mod page for it, darktide modders has the file on their discord

[slow raven]

cleave damage is the dump stat

youre not cleaving shit with a dueling sword

[spare light]

good point

[copper torrent]

#1048318548180738118 message

[sonic gale]

which one of these is better?

[vital flint]

Holy cow, bb with ep feels good

[tepid beacon]

bro i just watched a new player blow himself up for the 4th time with assail

they never learn

[severe folio]

dang im not sure

perhaps one with higher mobility

for easier maneuver

[tepid beacon]

he does not learn-

[stable silo]

waht u guys thinkj is best curio stats i tend to run max hp toughness gunner resist but people been saying stam regen BIS

[whole oxide]

depends how aggressively you melee

[stable silo]

i whip out the dueling sword for panic swings in a cirlce around myself into the darkness occasionally

[spice veldt]

if you run kinetic deflection, then I don't think stamina stuff is needed at all

[languid osprey]

what blessings/perks should i run with purg?

[vagrant frigate]

ive never ran out of stamina with kinetic deflection

you quell and get stamina back at the same time anyways

[languid osprey]

barrage + warp nexus?

[spice veldt]

if you run a staff with some AoE stagger, then you don't "need' it either (though stamina is convenient for chaos spawns w/o kinetic deflection, depending on the block cost of your weapon)

[pallid bone]

Smoke Weed Everyday

[spice veldt]

so it depends, but I think it's fairly common to go into builds where you don't usually need stamina stuff

[stable silo]

would block efficiency be better or just stick with the tanky stats

[spice veldt]

if you're running a force sword w/o +stamina or KD, I'd run some block eff for chaos spawns

[stable silo]

trying to live in a world without force swords swapped to the mighty dueling sword

no more unlimited dodges even though its warranted makes me sad

[languid osprey]

what blessings/perks should i run with purg?

[stable silo]

if its still like before you want crit chance and flak, warp nexus and possibly warp flurry? but my info might be outdated

[sonic coral]

All right side of tree, mk 4 dueling sword, laspistol

I'm tellin ya

Space swashbuckler

[steady yarrow]

What blessings are ideal for voidstrike? Nexus and Surge?

[stable silo]

are you enu?

cause a las pistol scrier psyker just joined my lobby

[arctic harbor]

Hello, what stats/blessing/perks do i want on a trauma staf?

[sonic coral]

Nah I'm wexley

Also I'm at work

Technically

[royal falcon]

shhh he sleepy

[spice veldt]

Charge Rate and Blast Radius are the most important stats; for your dump stat, pick your poison among Damage, Warp Resistance, and Quell Speed because we still argue about it to this day

for Blessings there's Warp Flurry/Rending Shockwave/Blazing Spirit

[sonic coral]

I'm happy to argue about anything anytime especially if I know I'm wrong

[spice veldt]

you usually run Blazing Spirit with Warp Nexus

[spice veldt]

that's sooooo true!!!!!

[lunar hollow]

arco is flak useful at all on a mk4 ds

[spice veldt]

for perks idk hopefully people that have calculated the breakpoints come here since I just run whatever on my trauma rn

[spice veldt]

I'd say no cuz you one-shot bruisers anyways; there's scab shotgunners but I'm not fussing about oneshotting them and uncanny strike stacks help with that

so it's primarily scab ragers that +flak is nice against

I have no idea if +flak hits a BP on them except for a one-shot on a crit weakspot with enough uncanny strike stacks

[spare light]

Do you run trauma cause you like inflict trauma?

[spice veldt]

but I also basically do not care about scab ragers rm

[lunar hollow]

i see

[spice veldt]

maybe when they get their 2.4k HP but also the ds special staggers them and whatnot

so unless the game decides to begin spawning 20 of them at a time, I wouldnt run +flak

[spice veldt]

I'm a menace to society

[sonic coral]

What ability do you run alongside trauma?

[jolly cedar]

Does finesse damage increase the fire rate of guns?

[sonic coral]

Shout?

[spare light]

I play void cause of the satisfying sound it makes when I hit a massive horde headshot

[spice veldt]

I run Shield cuz I'm on the right side of the tree, and I dislike scrier's except for when I snort crack cocaine and go for the +movement speed node

[lunar hollow]

shield has death-spiral prevention that the other 2 ults dont

[sonic coral]

Regular or bubble

[spice veldt]

+Finesse Damage is different from the Finesse stat on weapons
+60% Finesse Damage would be equivalent to +60% Weakspot Damage and +60% Critical Damage

[lunar hollow]

regular

dome is w/e

[sonic coral]

Nice

[jolly cedar]

oh shit that sounds cracked

[sonic coral]

I hate dome

[spice veldt]

uhh I like my bubble cuz protecting against trapper nets and flamers/bomber nades is convenient

[lunar hollow]

its ok on certain maps

[sonic coral]

Fair

[lunar hollow]

like magistrati

[spice veldt]

and the bonbon can be really dangerous on certain corridor areas

[lunar hollow]

where you get 8 million gunners

[jolly cedar]

Does disrupt destiny give me marks even if a teammate kills the marked enemy?

[spare light]

I started running regular shield aswell, seeing a mutant run into to then get one shot by a MK4 headshot

[lunar hollow]

but for the most part i'll take special stagger over dome any day

[spice veldt]

so having this dome that fucking shuts bonbons down is convenient to have

[spice veldt]

iirc only if you've staggered/damaged them recently

otherwise not

[lunar hollow]

until ur team kites it through the dome and it is now useless

[spice veldt]

like real pro i stick to the bonbon and then whiff a dodge and die

[lunar hollow]

lmao

[sonic coral]

Based

[spare light]

Gotta do what psyker does best

[spice veldt]

also eome is maximum brain off for positioning

aiming my shield placement to block a sniper sight line?

why do a trivially easy thing when I can stare at the ground and press F

[jolly cedar]

is it just me

or is accatran psyker twice as good as accatran veteran?

this is so stupid

[spice veldt]

fuck I misspelt is twice whatever

[spare light]

I usually shit my pants, dodge and press F in a completely wrong direction, so I'm forced to use my 2nd charge

[sonic coral]

Do they stop snipers? Feel like I've been shot through bubbles by them multiple times

[jolly cedar]

u get way way more crits with infernus

[spice veldt]

iirc it's cuz the bubble is up on your screen when it's actually not

[sonic coral]

Ahh

[spice veldt]

cuz it has blocked a sniper shot before

so it is very sus

trust no one

[pine nova]

can someone explain to me how illisi special works? Is it like once it passed through x amount of hitmass then it goes away?

[sonic coral]

I think both shields are still just a little buggy in general

[spice veldt]

its basically a normal attack that has better damage and cleave

the special is consumed if you hit any # of enemies or if you wait too long

[pine nova]

I might be gaslighting myself but I thought when you hit only one or two poxwalkers it would stay

[spice veldt]

yeah there is some jank there

[young ridge]

yeah force swords are one hit per charge

then illisi can ofc hit multiple targets with that one strike

but yeah

[pine nova]

nvm then I am losing grip on reality

[young ridge]

surrender to psychosis sibling

[spice veldt]

don't worry its Psyker rp

[pine nova]

maybe I just missed and thought i hit

[young ridge]

i guess they never miss huh

[pine nova]

[young ridge]

excellent

[jolly cedar]

do u have to manually quell to trigger Quietude?

Or does it trigger if ur peril just goes down over time naturally?

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[spice veldt]

triggers on all forms of quelling, active or passive or from battle meditation

(fun fact: it used to not work with battle meditation but that was eventually fixed)

on the other side of things, Warp Expenditure currently does not work with Kinetic Deflection

[tidal elm]

Between Perfect Timing vs Warp Rider which should I pick for more damage? Going soulblaze/BB

[spice veldt]

warp rider gives +10% global damage at all times with the other 10% dmg scaling linearly with your peril, so maybe that

[jolly cedar]

Does this give infinite crits due to Accatran recon rifles having crit chains?

If it does u dont need any crit chance at all -_-

[spice veldt]

mayhaps

it does yeah

[shut jewel]

I have to ask, since I've had two games in a row with rando psykers immediately going full aggro on demonhosts, is there some strange trend going on with this part of the playerbase or something?

[jolly cedar]

i tried in the training room and it seems to

[spice veldt]

crit chains are some crack cocaine by fatshark

[jolly cedar]

yes

i dont know wtf they were smoking

but it made accatran psyker an absolute monster

why is no one else playing this?

it melts through literally everything

[spice veldt]

I prefer the laspistol

[jolly cedar]

havent tried it myself

did it get buffed again?

[spice veldt]

not yet but in the next patch

[harsh urchin]

infernus is kinda shit so

[jolly cedar]

yeah it is

[spice veldt]

laspistol has one of the better weakspot/crit dmg multis in this game

[jolly cedar]

its getting buffed next patch

[spice veldt]

assail shards hitting DHs id assume
truly a pub moment

[shut jewel]

Nope, completely 1000% intentional attacking of demonhost.

Not accidental assail pokes, just straight-up taking out their staves and hucking M1s at the host.

[spice veldt]

so malicious or stupid

interesting trend

[shut jewel]

I'm leaning towards plain stupid, frankly.

[lunar hollow]

u and mankar have FALLEN

[acoustic osprey]

assail pysker picks up grim, dies next fight (not even a horde), leaves

[spice veldt]

shut up juff

[lunar hollow]

[vagrant frigate]

lol

[olive ember]

Eh could be worse

[copper torrent]

Yeah, but... ammo.

[olive ember]

Had two games where these special people walked up to a dh, shot it, died, left

[acoustic osprey]

maybe they should change the dh with something else and have the DH be a regular boss

[analog agate]

Did about 5-7 games yesterday on smite/surge build. A ton of fun. But soooo much less effective than my blaze trauma/purge/void builds

[thin finch]

ok I just did one of my smoothest auric damnation run and I get this as an emperor's gift

[kindred wyvern]

does warp siphon actually reduce the cooldown of scrier's gaze at all? it hasn't been for me

[thin finch]

no, it's bugged

[kindred wyvern]

classic

[thin finch]

I think it's related to the fact that Scried gaze does not instantly start rejen when used, so the effect of warp siphon goes of and then nothing happen since you can't get it back

[kindred wyvern]

yeah, im assuming it freezes the cooldown in place until you reach 100 peril

[thin finch]

it does yeah

which is not "stupid' because otherwise if you're good enough at killing and dealing with peril (and you have MANY tool for that) you might have a 100% uptime of the bonus

[spice veldt]

pre-patch 13 vet be like

[harsh urchin]

it's funny cuz they're walking that change back

[still hearth]

Yeah imagine being rewarded for playing well with a risky option

[harsh urchin]

i doubt scrier's is gonna be good unless they do that for scriers too

[thin finch]

If it works with Warp siphon it would probably be a possibility tho

[spice veldt]

I'd be fine with scrier's gaze having more uptime

[still hearth]

It basically will be yeah

[spice veldt]

cuz it's a fairly mediocre effect unlike pre-patch vets ult

[vagrant frigate]

not the way i use it

[spice veldt]

crack cocaine

[vagrant frigate]

if you have adhd the perk is good

[spice veldt]

but other ults don't come with downsides and you can't end scrier's gaze without hitting 100% peril

[vagrant frigate]

why would i wanna end it

[thin finch]

yeah but pre patch vet ult ain't there anymore and now Vet are crying in a corner

[thorny oyster]

Anyone know when the new update is dropping ?

[spice veldt]

for when peril usage is needed and I don't want to have an increased probability of dying

[vagrant frigate]

oh i only run it with bb and gun sword

so i cant blow up

[thin finch]

I would be okay with a less steep climbing of the peril tho, because damn at some point the peril go from 0 to 100 in less than a second

[vagrant frigate]

the effects last 10 seconds after its over

[copper torrent]

I am being called out

[thin finch]

or use smite

[vagrant frigate]

brainburst gives me kinetic flayer

also ive kysd with smite

from tapping left click after misclick g

[obtuse moth]

They're going to allow volley fire cooldown to tick next patch while activated so 100% uptime will be possible, so that would be a really inconsistent stance to take

[still hearth]

I think I was told only parts of it lasts (or part of it comes into play) for the 10s after it goes down

[vagrant frigate]

im not sure how the finesse buff works but the damage and crit both work during, i dont know about after

[teal needle]

That awkward moment when someone runs forward to push a poxburster and then three more poxbursters fall down from a hole in the cieling onto their head

[vagrant frigate]

i think one drops after the main effect

[copper torrent]

"You're being inconsistent fatshark" "lol. Lmao"

[kindred wyvern]

the lingering effect is smaller, with an additional node you can keep 30% damage bonus

the crit chance goes bye bye tho

[vagrant frigate]

crit goes away?

but dmg and fin stay

[kindred wyvern]

depends on how well you do during gaze - need more time in it or more weakspot kills with the extra node

if you reach the 30 stacks, then yeah you essentially get both but only to a max of 30%

[vagrant frigate]

well yeah

[kindred wyvern]

meanwhile during gaze you essentially add that lingering effect onto the base 30%

so you still lose some damage and fin

[vagrant frigate]

you lose the damage and crit after

but keep the stacks