psyker-class

[pseudo viper]

If you don't understand where hitscan could be more useful

You don't understand what's going on

[terse rivet]

I actually am gonna ignore this guy he is either a console player who can't aim or a PC player who sucks at aiming

[pseudo viper]

K. Make sure to inform me of that.

[analog agate]

I already am lmao

[pseudo viper]

Announce it to the world too. Let them know how cool you are.

[wary sleet]

Psykers gotta be the saltiest class chat or I just haven't been here that long to notice it in the others.

[ebon jolt]

I don’t understand. All staves are currently viable.

[pseudo viper]

Yes. Everything is viable.

[whole oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/el-risitas-juan-joya-borja-ratones-coloraos-laugh-meme-laughing-man-gif-24899295

[terse rivet]

everything is viable

[whole oxide]

"purgatus can kill crushers really well"

[pseudo viper]

Honestly, I think everything is viable in uh...

Oh no. here comes Ragnar, the guy that literally showed a video of a mauler not being pushed because he didn't know how Smite worked

Mah guy.

[terse rivet]

they really need to add like 2 more staff choices

I'd like a staff that does a channeled laser beam

would be great for crit builds

has a 50 mass pen so it can pen 2 crushers max or a line of lesser enemies

[clear heath]

okay but can we talk about the real best thing about staves?
they're buffing the bonk

[whole oxide]

i showed you a video of a mauler not being pushed over, you moved the goalpost, like i said you would

[pseudo viper]

No, you said all that happened was they got staggered

Don't even.

[clear heath]

to be fair, that was a pretty half assed attempt at pushing over a mauler considering you did the minimum possible stagger

[pseudo viper]

And why would you show a video of a mauler not getting pushed? Why would you show a video of a minimum shock time on a mauler?

[terse rivet]

To be fair surge staff is S tier in how fun it is to use

feels more movement oriented than the voidstrike

[long wharf]

easily the stupidest thing in the entire patch

[clear heath]

I will carry with the new staff bonk

[terse rivet]

they need to make the staff special do like damage or effects of the element of that staff

[clear heath]

it will be amazing

[terse rivet]

for example purgatus staff special would be like applying 4 burn stacks on hit

[whole oxide]

the fact that they even spent the 30 seconds to make that change and write the patchnote, is kinda insulting

[long wharf]

they need to replace the staff melee with an actual staff-specific warp-based attack

[strong gulch]

If staff bonk had a quick stagger the way MK 4 dueling sword does, I might actually use it.

[terse rivet]

voidstrike special could do what the ogryn grenade gauntlet special does and inject an explosion into an enemy and the blast radius and stagger is much larger so you can use it to open a gap in a horde

[pseudo viper]

Maybe. I prefer the Psyker powers be made cooler. The staves are functionally good.

[fading patrol]

If only
They still have the same lame left click projectile on 3 staff

[clear heath]

wait
why

[whole oxide]

even if it did, it wouldn't give you anything new, you can already instantly swap to melee and stagger

[clear heath]

did they figure staff bonk do too much damage against flak enemies?

[pseudo viper]

What if

Staff bonk was instead staff force block?

[torpid girder]

Is it true bubble shield gets pierced by sniper?

[terse rivet]

yes

[strong gulch]

Not if you have bad brains that make quick swap very difficult; but generally true.

[torpid girder]

Good to know

[terse rivet]

I find it funny that they buffed the dueling sword when it already one shots muties with a headshot

and 3 shots crushers with the rending blessing

but shh don't tell them

[steady yarrow]

What would be the dump stat for a voidstrike?

[pseudo viper]

I think I need to run more sniper gauntlets. I can't get the timing down for some reason anymore.

[terse rivet]

dump stat for voidstrike is quell speed

[strong gulch]

It seems inconsistent. Sometimes blocks. Sometimes doesn't.

[terse rivet]

here is a pretty ideal voidstrike staff

[long wharf]

it's not inconsistent - it's lag

[steady yarrow]

Appreciate the info

[whole oxide]

it doesn't in psykanium

[long wharf]

many times clients still think the shield is up when it's not on the server

[torpid girder]

but does in normal games?

[strong gulch]

oh that makes sense

[long wharf]

shield bubble absolutely reliably blocks sniper shots

when up

[clear heath]

it appears snipers don't actually fire at you if you're in the bubble too

they see it as a wall for aiming i guess

[torpid girder]

In your opinions, is double wall or bubble better?

[terse rivet]

there is also an issue where visually the shield is up but its not actually up because it was recently broken

[whole oxide]

bubble

like, no contest

[terse rivet]

the bubble is almost always better because of the toughness regen inside of it

its so broken

[long wharf]

and I like the 360' nature of the bubble

[torpid girder]

It'd be neat if they gave wall shield some kind of amplification matrix effect and increased damage when shooting through it

[terse rivet]

it also stops bomber grenades from entering the bubble and trapper nets and flamer flames and beast of nurgle vomit

[strong gulch]

I'd say bubble is easier. You don't have to think too hard about it.

[long wharf]

shields block all projectiles

[whole oxide]

the fact that they're actually buffing bubble next patch, is insane

[long wharf]

grenades, trapper nets, flamer flames in the air

[strong gulch]

true

[terse rivet]

the durability needed a buff to be fair if they are fixing the cooldown bug

the shield actually gets completely shredded by even 2-3 gunners

[strong gulch]

Snowglobe

[whole oxide]

not really, its still super-clutch even if it only lasts 5s

[pseudo viper]

The nerf to warp kill toughness gain sucks though

[clear heath]

yeah they kinda just wait lmao

[pseudo viper]

Hurts poor force sword mains

actually just Illis but who's counting?

[terse rivet]

you'll really notice how much the bubble is down next patch and understand the buffs

when you can't just spam it infinite

[whole oxide]

i use it now without the bug, its good

[steady yarrow]

ideal?

[terse rivet]

really good staff yea

pray for good rolls

I'll pray for you

[whole oxide]

now watch it get sustained-fire and terrifying barrage

[steady yarrow]

For the Emperor

[terse rivet]

WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT

[clear heath]

stamina perk

[terse rivet]

ITS GONNA GET WARP NEXUS AND SUGE

[pseudo viper]

Isn't suppress getting buffed or something?

[teal needle]

love it when the game hard crashes in a5 while the team is fighting two bosses

[terse rivet]

please post the staff again when you upgrade it

[steady yarrow]

I thought surge was lit?

[terse rivet]

surge is really fun to use

[steady yarrow]

Lets roll boys

[terse rivet]

it just has horrible horde clear

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-anxiety-worried-worry-gif-10947879

come on good stuff

[acoustic osprey]

perks for void? crit chance?

cc? maniac?

[teal needle]

Thank goodness team held on

[strong gulch]

hadron bricked my stuff. let me be the sacrifice

[terse rivet]

If you are running the surge blessing I personally prefer 5% crit chance and flak armor

[whole oxide]

crit-chance and then whatever, carapace or unyielding are the only things you won't 1-shot

[steady yarrow]

lmao, I need more plasteel, but it looks like shit so far

[acoustic osprey]

copy that

[strong gulch]

😔

[stable silo]

is this one bricked ?

[terse rivet]

not the worst to be fair

[steady yarrow]

After some adjustments, it'll be better than what i'm using I think eitherway

[clear heath]

that sprint efficiency goes hard

[terse rivet]

no swap out shred for the rending blessing and one of the perks for maniacs so you can one shot mutants and its good

[stable silo]

i also got this badboi

[pseudo viper]

Don't need godrolls to have a good weapon

Just need proper blessing really

[strong gulch]

I can't remember if extra stamina on weapons fecks with psyker regen stuff or something. I can't remember.

[spice veldt]

no psyker-specific stuff

[stable silo]

and tis one rofl i dont know which one to try and salvage

dumped a ton of mats into creating those 3

[spice veldt]

just ranged weapons having +stamina which would make your relative stamina Regen slower

[whole oxide]

i'd keep this one, swap unarmoured to maniac, and leave the 2nd swap unused to see what happens

uncanny/riposte is a good combo

[stable silo]

oops i posted the same one twice i meant this one was my third

[strong gulch]

If you change unarmoured to maniac, you'll be in a really goof spot.

You can keep riposte or change it to shred or a few other blessings. Uncanny is the needed one. The others are more to taste, playstyle, what you can keep up, etc.

[strong gulch]

Oh gotcha. Thanks so much/

[stable silo]

oh shreds a good one to run ? i thught that one was avoided for some reason

[whole oxide]

uncanny is the only "required" thing on DS, everything else is nice-to-have

[strong gulch]

What @whole oxide said.

We don't know exactly when the patch is coming, but something could change that might impact preffered blessing choices.

[whole oxide]

until it does come, rampage is the secret sauce

[strong gulch]

but also, since that blessing will remain changeable, so you can play around to find what you like.

[stable silo]

aight i try out shred/uncanny with unarmored to maniac

thanks lads

[open crag]

ive asked this before so I apologize but cant recall the answer, what blessings should I be shooting for on a deimos force sword?

just saw this on melk and wasnt sure if I should grab it https://i.gyazo.com/5f38e8673785d80aa4b61c6c4d197e89.png

[whole oxide]

there's no 1 answer to this, deflector, slaughterer, uncanny, unstable, shred, riposte, all decent

blazing spirit is not good on swords, because things you hit with sword will die long before the burning does anything

[open crag]

fair enough, thank you

[river stirrup]

Hey. Any tips on playing trauma staff ? I rly can't get my hands on that thing, I never comfortable with it

[fading patrol]

This is garbage on deimos

[whole oxide]

make sure you have high charge-rate and blast-radius, and for blessings you want either flurry/X or blazing/nexus

[spice veldt]

if you're low-level and you don't like how it feels, I don't recommend using trauma again until you're at a high enough level to get good stats on trauma

because for some reason, trauma has some rather widely-scaling stats

[whole oxide]

it'll also not feel worth it on lower difficulites with low enemy density, because the point of it is high-cleave on grouped up enemies

[brazen warren]

so mk2 dueling sword blessings is uncanny precog?

[river stirrup]

can u tell me a "good" charge rate/blast radius in % ?

[whole oxide]

i mean...... ideally 80

anything below 50 is gonna feel bad

[river stirrup]

ok thx

❤️

[thorn cedar]

What's the Soulblaze breakpoints for Venting Shriek again

Like 93%?

[idle marten]

hmmm

[thorn cedar]

oh thats a nice even distribution

83 huh, that's pretty easy lol

am watchin a compooper build vid and the dude is throwing in a 1,000watt PSU as an excessive joke

i immediately flashback to me, circa 2010, building a tower and buying a 1,000watt PSU because it seemed like that's where we were headed at the time lmao

thankfully not every company has adopted the Intel philosophy of "fuck it just pump more wattage into the fucker that'll work"

[lyric burrow]

I do actually have a 1000w psu but it was mostly to be on the safe side when i got a new gpu

Cause my 750 was close

[west smelt]

Pretty sure some 4090s have melted before

[lyric burrow]

yeah i remember that i think

[eternal junco]

if your GPU can't cook meth you're doing something wrong smh

[torpid girder]

Any tips on getting the cliffhanger penance? It seems almost impossible

[bold flint]

the way these nodes are positioned is stupid

[analog agate]

good hting they are changing it this upcoming patch

[bold flint]

can they move mind in motion to the middle

[ebon jolt]

Hm... Not sure the 5% crit is needed with true aim. Every 1/3 headshits is already a crit.

[bold flint]

i wanna use it with fuckin brain burst

[ebon jolt]

Maniac damage instead?

Then... between the eyes?

[torpid girder]

What perks do I want on a chainsword

I know it's not perfect but it's the best i can afford for now

D:

[crisp yacht]

surrender it to hadron for bloodletter and make a zealot

[torpid girder]

Is that serious advice or

[solar sand]

probably makes leveling a breeze since the blessing is high flat damage

[crisp yacht]

semi-serious.. you could change weak spot damage to flak and it would probably do decent until you get better

[torpid girder]

Should I also try to find a rampage 4 blessing then as well?

[solar sand]

also shredder damage doesnt seem to scale with damage so with blood letter if you're going for mostly special attacks for single target, a high penetration high shredder would be better

not that it makes too much of a difference

[torpid girder]

Yea i thought so, it was the best chainsword i've gotten so far tho

the rest were like 302 rating

[orchid shadow]

Vigil Station at the final section with the bridges I think is the easiest place to knock people off.

[torpid girder]

now i just need to actually find a mission with vigil station...

[thorn cedar]

surge staff is fkn mad jooced right now

also damn u crab got me saying juiced

[idle marten]

the Illisi is the best force sword for melee psyker yea?

played a few missions with it and it felt the best for the playstyle im going for

[grand raven]

so this is the new meta for Void right?

[severe folio]

do you think the updating brain burst will finally be decent

i look at whats coming to it and all i see is positive upward number in overall, but it doesnt feel like its going to be significantly good

[reef island]

I havent tried gun psyker much but is this worth buyin from melk?

[atomic zephyr]

I run bloodletter/wrath. Helps with elites/bosses and can handle the horde with wrath.

[steel flame]

im starting to cringe inside every time i see a void strie in maelstrom

[lunar hollow]

whats wrong with void

[atomic zephyr]

Maybe too common?

[steel flame]

its the people using the void in maelstrom not the void itself

[blazing echo]

Too OP imo and I use it lol. It's like having a slow firing plasma half the time, no ammo, just hold R to cool down

Penetrates, wrecks armour. What's not to love. I've seen it ruin players games when two voids are in same team, no one else gets a look in

[steel flame]

oh thats not the issue

oh no i dont give a shit if someone takes all the glory 😛

no no, its mostly that op damage doesnt autowin maelstrom and alot of the people taking voidstrike have the situational awarness of a potato

[blazing echo]

Gotcha

[steel flame]

but people think it will auto win them maelstrom

auric maelstrom i must clarify

[atomic zephyr]

If the perks is all you want to change, then maniac/flak is always a good option. If you are only swapping 1 perk, id probably swap the melee weak spot to flak

[steel flame]

and then they get pissy when they die cause me, the gun psyker, isnt doing anything XP

even though i have more damage output than the entire team combined in most team comps XP

oof

they got me tilted tonight eh?

its probs cause it happed twice in a row XP

[lunar hollow]

pub psykers are like old autopistol vets rn

bunch of people trying to run the broken op stuff and finding out that equipment doesnt make up for lack of game awareness/basic ability to use a dodge button in aurics

[whole oxide]

except old autopistol vets didn't get downed by a single bruiser

[lunar hollow]

a very very large portion of them would

[idle marten]

facts

[lunar hollow]

but there also weren't a bunch of new players for most of the autopistol meta

so u didnt get as much of it as you do now

[whole oxide]

true

[orchid venture]

I bought almost 300k ordos worth of mkIV dueling sabers and the highest roll i got was 364

[thick carbon]

are you level 30?

[orchid venture]

Yep

[thick carbon]

ah, rip

[idle marten]

coming from a Vet i dont condone the behavior of my fellow Veterans we were running the meta since the game came out so..

[spice veldt]

i've dumped 2m into mk4s and gotten depressing results as well

i basically just used an mk4 that was already in my inventory

[lunar hollow]

i lucked into a decent mk4 fairly quickly

i brought a shit ton of voids to gold

then melk sold me the surge blessing

😔

like 10k plasteel wasted for nothing lmao

[whole oxide]

this is all smalltime, spent 6m dockets on staves today, didn't get anything better than what i already had

[orchid venture]

I've done basically everything, and i still can't get a 370+ from the shop

[steel flame]

i got this one from the emperor with 3/4 nat t4s

[lunar hollow]

ive spent millions on traumas

[steel flame]

ill never have that luck again

ever

[lunar hollow]

enjoy bugged rampage while u can

104% damage increase at t4

[sour bison]

tired of seeing 2 wounds psykers on auric damnation

[steel flame]

?

y

[lunar hollow]

are we talkin 2 wounds as in

[whole oxide]

why?

[lunar hollow]

2 wounds curios

or

[sour bison]

no

just no curios

[steel flame]

y

[sour bison]

2 wounds and tahts it

[steel flame]

that how we roll in auric

[lunar hollow]

whats wrong with that

[spice veldt]

are they blowing up a bunch

[whole oxide]

thats..... the meta

[sour bison]

yeah right

[lunar hollow]

let em cook maybe all their psykers are self destructing

oh no

[sour bison]

2 minutes into the mission and shizo goes boom

[steel flame]

i mean litterally we all run no wound curios XP

[sour bison]

and then he dies

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/80ln7c hi5 solo clutch with no wounds curios

u dont really need em if ur good enough

[clear heath]

not running wounds is normal

[sour bison]

damn bro

[lunar hollow]

they only help in situations where you're going down in recoverable situations

[sour bison]

bexause every psyker player playing like that

yes?

[clear heath]

better to run stuff to prevent downs than to let you get downed multiple times

[lunar hollow]

i mean if ur expectation is that most people need wounds curios

[steel flame]

hes using void, clutch is invalid

INVALID

[lunar hollow]

shhh

i hate u

anyways

[steel flame]

lol

[lunar hollow]

if u think most people need wounds curios

[orchid venture]

That's just bad psykers, don't blame it on the number of wound curios they have

[shy pewter]

I ran a wound curio for like 4 games after the patch while I relearned peril management, now I dont run any

[clear heath]

at some point people are gonna get sick of reviving everyone 3 times anyways

[lunar hollow]

none of them are good enough to be getting each other up

[spice veldt]

josho autopistol vet

kill josho

[lunar hollow]

i played plenty of different types of vet

perish

[clear heath]

like you gotta consider how realistic 2 revives per medicae station is

[spice veldt]

ok autopistol zealot

[shy pewter]

When i see someone with 5 wounds in a game I worry, why do they need that much padding?

[steel flame]

finally something i can get behind

[lunar hollow]

ive been vibing with revolver vet recently

sometimes aiming is fun

[lunar hollow]

very true

[spice veldt]

occasionally the brain needs to be massaged

[lunar hollow]

i enjoy both the braindead broken stuff and having to turn my brain on to play

[sour bison]

also intense assail\void gameplay

[spice veldt]

I've been doing revolver dclaw if not doing premades

[lunar hollow]

thats the joke

[orchid venture]

I wish that vraks mk7 had a little bit of that je ne sais quoi

[lunar hollow]

relatively speaking fairly easy though also that situation was never particularly strenuous

[spice veldt]

my American education didn't prepare me for french

[sour bison]

Trauma gang

[spice veldt]

the buff that the MK7 looks real sweet

[steel flame]

ive been having more poxburster bs tonight, had a team mate put a shield up on a pox so i couldnt push it, then after getting downed by that, THE SAME TEAMATE REZZED ME INTO ANOTHER POXBURSTER EXPLOSION

[orchid venture]

je ne sais quoi is a common phrase, even in English

[lunar hollow]

good lord

[steel flame]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[lunar hollow]

ngl i have been on a shithead streak recently

magistrati bridge after the airlock

[spice veldt]

damn rumbled and tumbled

[lunar hollow]

zealot runs up to poxburster while im shooting it

blow poxburster up on zealot

another poxburster approaches

i keep shooting

zealot runs at poxburster

[shadow wigeon]

Anyone have a Melee Scrier's build they can share?

[lunar hollow]

it blows up in his face again

[spice veldt]

ogryn rp

[lunar hollow]

he was running martyrdom

so honestly i was helping him

[lunar hollow]

how did u know wtf

[spice veldt]

josho cope

[steel flame]

it kinda counts as a melee build

[spice veldt]

josho justifying murdering his teammates

[lunar hollow]

he didnt die to the poxbursters

he died to poxwalkers 30 seconds later

[spice veldt]

yeah you merely erased the nigh entirety of his existence

bleh

[orchid venture]

I kinda feel like melee scrier needs like, a tiny smidge of a buff

[lunar hollow]

i take only partial responsibility

[spice veldt]

rip devastating strike

[steel flame]

y

[lunar hollow]

also now that mind in motion doesnt have mountainous opportunity cost

im back to using it

[spice veldt]

I refuse to miss out on malefic

[lunar hollow]

i liked that talent back when i was stuck in malice and had no conception of meta

[shadow wigeon]

Cool, yeah I'm guessing you're doing a lot of gunkin. I'm trying to go melee first with it
lasgun has to be good for picking off the marked targets

[spice veldt]

I don't use my staff nearly enough to like mind in motion

[lunar hollow]

i am the opposite

[steel flame]

laspistol go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[orchid venture]

I took an illisi doing a melee scrier build pretty similar to the one above and it just... didn't really perform

[lunar hollow]

melee is mostly for spamming pushes/killing specials at short range

[whole oxide]

scrier's needs the same treatment as executioners, whereby prolonging the ult doesn't increase the CD

[lunar hollow]

otherwise i vibe with my staff of choice

void was my favorite staff then i realized it sucked until patch 13

[idle marten]

they dont konw im a melee psyker

[lunar hollow]

i have been THRIVING with the ds/void meta since those were my favorite psyker weapons

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah it's a bit unfortunate at the moment, but at the same time it would just have 100% uptime the way its' designed now if the CD was running while you were in it.

[steel flame]

you should see what arco did with a dclaw and scrier......it was very scary

[lunar hollow]

arco is some sort of roomba terminator

until he plays with me and then he blows himself up

5 times

[spice veldt]

shlerp

oh

go fuck urself

u didn't need to tell the class

[steel flame]

wrekt

[lunar hollow]

this man tried scriers gaze once with me

[idle marten]

F

[lunar hollow]

and he turned into an IED

i just refuse to use scriers i know my limits

[orchid venture]

Part of me wants melee scrier to work like slayer bardin i guess. Being in the thick of it letting me go indefinitely

[spice veldt]

why would scrier's do this to me

[idle marten]

maybe i should share my Scrier gameplay lmao i love scrier its fun af

[lunar hollow]

i wish venting shriek did more

now that i have stopped detting myself every 45 seconds with assail

kinda hard to swap off shield

[steel flame]

i really need to get a decent dclaw but all my resources are tied up in getting a perfect infernus/dumdum laspistol

[lunar hollow]

lmao dude ive been grinding vet guns

and im just sittin here like

god i would like some more melees

[clear heath]

shriek is great though

[lunar hollow]

and no plasteel left over for melees

[clear heath]

the soulblaze on shriek is really good

scream at a horde and they die

[orchid venture]

It is fun! It needs just a liiittle somethin to make it competitive with bubble and shriek for me

[spice veldt]

i'd be fine if scrier's had more uptime by being able to cooldown while it was in effect

[blazing echo]

Really useful if you have to pick up a teammate

[spice veldt]

so high uptime but low impact ult

[lunar hollow]

the soulblaze shriek is nice but the special stun on shield is a gigantic death-spiral prevention tool

[spice veldt]

and it would just be an ult for improving your neutral game

[orchid venture]

I need a perfect rolled mk4 dueling saber, and that rogue trader hat. Then I'll start really going

[spice veldt]

since it's not like pre-patch 13 vet's ult which was high impact + high uptime

[lunar hollow]

i am actually kinda malding they did this for vet

[spice veldt]

TWENTY FIVE SECOND COOLDOWN AND COOLING DOWN WHILE IT WAS UP

WOOOOOO

vet's ult was some real fuckin crack cocaine wasn't it

[lunar hollow]

vet ult was so ridiculously overtuned

im proud they managed to outdo themselves in 2 different ways with gunlugger

[orchid venture]

You see that agrip on a vet and you just

[spice veldt]

god bless fatshark

[lunar hollow]

there were some stupid hidden stats

like the +impact

i got into arguments with the importance of collateral on bolter with crab

because i didnt know

[spice veldt]

SUPPRESSION IMMUNITY AND STAGGER IMMUNITY

[lunar hollow]

and i was foolish

[spice veldt]

stagger immunity during vet's ult was so fuckin stupid

in combination with everything else

[lunar hollow]

unwavering focus also unintentionally giving u the benefits of duck n dive

pure comedy.

and its like, man, how could u possibly fuck up harder than this

[orchid venture]

I've actually been enjoying my stealth melee vet. I could probably swap to shout, but stealth is fine for now

[lunar hollow]

and then they made current ogryn

[orchid venture]

I'm probably enjoying it because chainsword is really strong rn

[clear heath]

I've been enjoying shout without the revive
Excited to see how stupid it gets when they buff it

[lunar hollow]

do u have rampage on ur chainsword

[orchid venture]

Rampage Savage Sweep, yeah

Both are only 3 though

[lunar hollow]

prepare urself emotionally for an eventual bugfix

because rn

rampage gives the listed power bonus

[clear heath]

I have combat ability curios on my vet so the uptime on the shield is gonna be like, 15 seconds uptime, 12 seconds downtime

[lunar hollow]

AND the previous 50% damage

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/0xpve1

[orchid venture]

I thought just the t4 gave rampage

[obsidian arch]

i hope they never nerf needles its my calling

[orchid venture]

Er, the double rampage

[spice veldt]

i'll KILL it

[lunar hollow]

i think its all tiers?

unsure

[feral knoll]

Anyone have a sample build for Scrier’s Gaze

[orchid venture]

Hmmm, well my mk4 dueling saber can't even hit three guys at once, so I think it's fine having rampage

[lunar hollow]

the push attack can

[orchid venture]

Rarely, at least

[lunar hollow]

probs harder now with the hitmass changes

[orchid venture]

I wanted to try a build where i took that crit after 5 headshots talent along with a melee scrier, and only using the right click assail on important targets

I kinda doubt it meets any breakpoints doing that though, even with the upcoming buffs to right click

[spice veldt]

crits are a 1.9x damage boost so potentially (if it didn't hit a weakspot)

[orchid venture]

Maybe if i just did empowered psionics instead of the destinysomething mini tree

[spice veldt]

disrupt destiny might be funner for hybrid builds since you'll get a benefit for all of your weapons

[orchid venture]

Just use assail with a stack or such

[spice veldt]

since it's +15% dmg, +30% crit damage, and +37.5% weakspot damage which can be pretty cracked

I had an assail shard do 1.7k damage on a crit weakspot (with uncanny strike) with DD stacks

[orchid venture]

I do really like disrupt destiny, i was gonna try using that, but i just need to see if gunners die to a right click crit assail with the upcoming buffs

[vocal sundial]

what's this table from

[spice veldt]

me

or pygex's guide

[vocal sundial]

based

[spice veldt]

i got tired of people saying that assail was bad at flak

so i have this damage table ready

[spice veldt]

enjoy this hot jank
https://streamable.com/zjpqc5

the shards also inherit the perks of blessings and perks of your equipped weapon, and I had +carapace and +120% rending at that time

which can lead to some funny (broken) interactions

[vocal sundial]

I noticed my damage numbers went way up when I swapped from empowered to dd

[orchid venture]

Lmao

[vocal sundial]

but that also might have been putting on wrack and ruin

[spice veldt]

that's some good crack cocaine, right?

[orchid venture]

i need a good mk4 man, 300k ordos for a kinda mid one...

[spice veldt]

tru all my homies love perilous combustion

[spice veldt]

at the very least, the mk4 does have 3 dump stats (cleave targets, mobility, and penetration)

[orchid venture]

It's not even fully upgraded, so i don't know if i have the rending blessing

[spice veldt]

since cleave targets/penetration are bugged to not affect flak, and you're only losing out on 6.8% dmg against carapace (besides your initial hits) between a 0% pen MK4 and a 80% pen mk4

[orchid venture]

Ran out of plasteel

[spice veldt]

😔

poor people smh

my plasteel has run dry reblessing a bunch of weapons

and perks

why are perks more expensive than blessings to refine man

[orchid venture]

I had a massive store of it, but with all the weapon buffs I've been going kinda nuts making new weapons

[clear heath]

i keep running out of ordo dockets

i'm too picky with stats and play too many builds

[strong gulch]

me

[orchid venture]

My ogryn got 3 380s like, instantly

A rumbler, gg, and a stubber

[pale pilot]

i've basically accepted that i'm going to live with anything i get that's 370+

[orchid venture]

4th one later, a shovel from melk

My zealot has a 379 evis with rampage and savage sweep too

[unique mist]

Its really not worth it fussing over a few % here and there

[pale pilot]

yeah

[spice veldt]

pretty much finesse for that attack speed and the rest is whatevs

[pale pilot]

like i've reached some zen where i'll replace something i have with a 380 but as long as the high base number is there i give no shits about the actual meter allocations

that's too much fussing about for me.

also my brain tends to ignore perks on weapons in favor of blessings which actually do interesting things

[unique mist]

Like, I got this voidstrike staff, and even though it has 67% damage with the points put in to a dump stat, I won't keep grinding for a better voidstrike staff because I'm probably not gonna get it anytime soon and instead I'll focus on other weapons

[clear heath]

I try to aim for good perks and blessings with good stats

which is why i'm poor

[pale pilot]

yeah if something nice shows up i'll grab it but also i'm not gonna chase anything

[unique mist]

Also, how come the end of mission transcendant weapons from damnation runs have such trash stats

[pale pilot]

my only criteria is base rating and that's it

[unique mist]

I have yet to get a 370+ from it, every one has been trash

[pale pilot]

because end of mission rng weapons seem to roll on the brunt statrange roller

[unique mist]

Also they very very rarely have t4 blessings anyways

[clear heath]

surely nothing bad will happen when i spend 1 million ordo dockets and 10000 plasteel trying to build a single good weapon

[orchid venture]

I gotta see if I can get surge on my void staff... I have one with transfer peril and warp flurry though, it's doing perfectly fine

[unique mist]

He doesn't know (he does)

[unique mist]

Thats exactly what I had

And was using

trust me

once you go surge

you don't go back

[orchid venture]

I've got a decent surge, i use it every now and then

[unique mist]

as in...a surge staff?

[orchid venture]

Yeah

[unique mist]

i was talking about a voidstrike surge staff lol

[orchid venture]

OH

[unique mist]

once you go voidstrike surge you never go back

[clear heath]

maybe naming a blessing the same name as a weapon was a bad idea

[orchid venture]

yeah lol

[spice veldt]

all my homies love surge

i love to surge all over them

[unique mist]

oneshotting a crusher or bulwark is so satisfying

[wet belfry]

The important thing about weapons is to hit breakpoints

Idc what the rest of the stats are so long as they hit the breakpoints.

[unique mist]

idk breakpoints on voidstrike, especially after the upcoming nerf

[potent echo]

Surge almost oneshots dreg gunners it's so sad

[orchid venture]

I went back to vt2 with some friends recently. Sienna just isn't allowed to have Any fun in that game with the friendly fire...

[clear heath]

they've changed blessing names before. i feel like it would be a good idea to do that for surge blessing

[wet belfry]

One-shotting mutants with dueling sword is chefs kiss

[clear heath]

I think warp nexus used to have a different name?

[spice veldt]

it was a 4-word phrase for a short time iirc

I forget what it was

[clear heath]

ah yeah, this used to be a thing

[spice veldt]

FUCK

[clear heath]

truly the description of all time

gain 5 to 20%

[spice veldt]

i like how it implies that you get at least 5% crit chance at all time

(you don't)

[vocal sundial]

wow that's broken

[clear heath]

lmao

[potent echo]

Harnessingdeez

[vocal sundial]

that zealot talent only gives 5% constant

[orchid venture]

Darktide with friendly fire would just be, doing a voidstrike surge crit into the back of an ogryn named GlizzyGulper and instantly sending them to the shadow realm

[potent echo]

You forgot ogryn nuke

Whole team just

[clear heath]

grenades would actually just be unusable

[orchid venture]

Grenades don't do friendly fire in VT2

[unique mist]

5 to 20% is so good

[potent echo]

They do though

[thorn cedar]

arco did u ever dps count bb with dd

[unique mist]

mine is only 1 to 4%

[potent echo]

Don't they

It's been so long

At least incendiaries dont

[orchid venture]

I don't think they even hurt yourself in vt2

[spice veldt]

iirc BB has a weakspot multiplier of 1x (can't benefit from +weakspot dmg AT ALL)

[orchid venture]

Pretty sure they don't friendly fire, i didn't really test it directly

[torpid girder]

AAAAA CLIFFHANGER IS IMPOSSIBLE

[potent echo]

Probably not, my memory is much worse

[thorn cedar]

So 15/30 stacks is just .15 and .3 huh

or w/e it did again

[spice veldt]

😔

[thorn cedar]

still, not awful really

[spice veldt]

at least BB guarantees 3 stacks with each kill assuming you have that node taken

[thorn cedar]

ye

plus being two weakspot hits a cast for w/e reason

[spice veldt]

oh for True Aim?

[thorn cedar]

ye

[spice veldt]

delightfully devilish

[orchid venture]

I gotta try that disrupt destiny scrier build I'm thinkin of...

[solar sand]

better with carapace or flak?

[potent echo]

Counts as two

[thorn cedar]

which i use for my recon 6 lol

[potent echo]

I'll say flak

Can kill scab gunners in one surge

[thorn cedar]

instant and infinite infernus bursts pretty much on demand

is it good? probably not that good. Is it fun? yes

[sour bison]

[orchid venture]

I wonder if empowered psionics smite will still cost less peril next update, they only specified it was a bug that it didn't cost any

[thorn cedar]

im guessing itll be full cost

[orchid venture]

Will it just be like, half speed?

[thorny oyster]

Which force sword is the best?

[solar sand]

i bet they will buff it somehow, when they adjust, hopefully

[orchid venture]

They buffed it's damage a bit

[solar sand]

for aoe clear at least im liking V

[limber marsh]

Didn't they say the bug is fixed but they kinda liked this peril reduction

[orchid venture]

It's mostly used as mass cc though, a bit like a stun grenade from zealot

[thorny oyster]

Thanks!

[orchid venture]

They said the bug is fixed, but without the bug it felt a little lacklustre, so they beefed it up a little bit

[solar sand]

didnt realize there was a patch

[limber marsh]

I actually love to play smite a lot, but never really know if it's performing as good as I imagine it. Like I can hold entire hordes and grant the 10% damage buff, but maybe it would be better to just spam void staff? idk

[potent echo]

Speaking of stuns, they finally fixed scab bombers from laying eggs

[orchid venture]

Patch isn't out yet

[solar sand]

ah

[orchid venture]

That's just preliminary notes

[potent echo]

Which might change

[solar sand]

hope they dont gut assail too much

[spice veldt]

and bomber nades staggering you on explosion, so you can take advantage of the 3x melee damage that they take

[solar sand]

5 instead of 10 and slower regen i think would be fair

[potent echo]

Yea it's usually better to kill than to control

[orchid venture]

Assail is getting it's power shifted. Left click worse, right click better

[solar sand]

i like that

[spice veldt]

i don't think many people will still use the RMB though

ammo economy is too good

[potent echo]

You wouldn't want the special spawn to trigger while you are still dealing with a mixed horde

[solar sand]

i thought the right click was underwhelming and thought it should do more for the increased cost

but it was so busted couldnt complain ofc

[potent echo]

Maybe right click will consistently kill shooters now

[solar sand]

once you learn to aim it rmb is kinda useless

[orchid venture]

Yeah, i think now it'll do 400 base damage if you have a stack of empowerment

[solar sand]

if you could separate empowerment for assail, so it only consumes on rmb

that would be cool

save the single target nukes somwhat

but still spam normally

[potent echo]

That's interesting

[orchid venture]

I would like that, might be a little strong

I just build empowerments with melee, and spend them later

[solar sand]

ive been trying not to use them lately so my teammates get to play the game lol

but i love them so much

[orchid venture]

Smite feels the same way with empowerment

[vagrant frigate]

THE MAELSTROM AURIC IS MELEE

YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS

[orchid venture]

We each get banana pudding tonight?

[solar sand]

time to cheese my first auric maybe

[vagrant frigate]

@spice veldt

finally get to poke to my fullest potential

[spice veldt]

that's what I like to see babeeeeeee

[strong gulch]

It's incredible that you can play with that FOV.

[spice veldt]

the combustion was perilous

[strong gulch]

I feel so ill watching that.

[vagrant frigate]

i have two FOV mods

to incraes it

xd

[wet belfry]

Fish POV

[strong gulch]

I wish I had to constitution for that.

[vagrant frigate]

time to poke once more

before the mission goes away

mf bout to be poked

@spice veldt got a new one

its the crusher poker

[spice veldt]

rip crushers and their family of 10 maulers

[severe folio]

damn thats a nice skin

aquila shop items dont stay do they

[vagrant frigate]

its mod

[severe folio]

oh

i should figure out how to mod this game then

[past brook]

welcome to weapon customization

[severe folio]

i still havent look at it

at all

[past brook]

enjoy your stay

[severe folio]

is it easy

easy as in

cut paste into the directory

1-2 core mod to makes everything work

[past brook]

as long as you can read the instructions and don't unpack mod folders incorrectly

[severe folio]

i see

and i recall theres a server that focus on darktide mod right

[past brook]

yes

[severe folio]

i shoukd at least get the mod that indicate healths on enemy

and numbers for timer

[spice veldt]

essentially yeah

here's a text/gif guide for installing mods, but there are audiovisual guides on youtube if those suit you better https://dmf-docs.darkti.de/#/installing-mods

[vagrant frigate]

hp bar mod is very strong

lets you know when u can just shoot things once

also helps you know if you hit a true 1tap

[spice veldt]

I have just the damage numbers turned on, but it's very nice for having clear clips of an assail shard dealing 1.7k damage to a crusher

[severe folio]

this is fine, thank you

[idle bay]

It's not just strong mod - it triggered quite a few forum "Karens" to screech on top their lungs that it's cheating 🙂

Now you can target that pesky Trapper through the crowd of zombies with ease

[severe folio]

i see

well

fuk em kids i guess

[kind jay]

technically it is (youre intended to ping for visuals) buts it relatively harmless anyways so no one cares

i also like to use perspectives with a far increased zoom out range

whole different game

[idle bay]

And i heavily rely on directional sound with decent headphones while using base FOV settings. COmpletely different game as well 🙂

[strong gulch]

@spice veldt Look want Brunt gave me. 🥲

[spice veldt]

skill issue 😔

[kind jay]

🤏 dick radius

[idle bay]

It's actually good. Useless stat anyway. Downside - low chance of T4 blessings and most likely t2 perks

[spice veldt]

i killed 3 men for my blast radius stat

[severe folio]

i mean

its 312

[spice veldt]

blast radius scales the epicentre from 1.5m to 2.3m (80%) which is a noticeable amount

[severe folio]

60 more could go into that blast radius

[strong gulch]

what if I build it. It's already bad so how bad can it get

[idle bay]

i never valued it. Direct headshots is one things that matter to me on void staff 🙂

[wispy pike]

Now that's shite

[torpid girder]

how tiny is the circle :o

[spice veldt]

potato rolled a trauma staff, not a voidstrike

this is what the voidstrike is doing to good people of our nation

[strong gulch]

TINY FIRE

[idle bay]

I just noticed that. Mind enhancing food supplements have not kicked in yet... Without them i'm a Patrick from Spunge Bob. To much headackes and blood pressure issue

[spice veldt]

psychopathic rebless wtf

[strong gulch]

I'm up past my bedtime. It had to happen

[torpid girder]

Day 12351256 of trying to get cliffhanger...

[steel flame]

oh come now

its not that bad

[idle bay]

I mean it was not that hard when ot was push 20 enemies...

[torpid girder]

I CAN'T DO ITTT IDK

[idle bay]

There is at least 2 spots that makes it trivial

[torpid girder]

I swear i'm pushing off large groups and then it just never happens

That or my team just murders everything before i can do anything

[spice veldt]

true we are in a dps check era that has never been seen before

hmm

[idle bay]

Ask them nicely. Or use LFG chat here on this discord and you will actually get help with completing it

[steel flame]

you go to the end of hab drako, sit on the rounded corner at the end during extraction right next to the hole in the fence, and push poxwalkers over the edge till you get it

[strong gulch]

Fully charged

[torpid girder]

Asked someone to let me group up a horde at the end of chasm logistratum so I can try and get the penance at the extraction bridge and someone stood there and spammed assail at every enemy and stared at me out of spite 💔

[near wyvern]

Perks are perfect, swap blessings into terrifying and sustained fire

[torpid girder]

I love this

[torpid girder]

I'll try this, ty!

[idle bay]

Again - LFG chat - there some nice players there. Especialy Ogryn players

[spice veldt]

10 shankings

[steel flame]

death is too merciful

[torpid girder]

oooh. Should I buy this for the stats?

it's really good at killing specials/elites/bosses and stuff right?

[tacit flume]

if you dont buy it i will

[torpid girder]

What blessings should I look out for on it? Deflector and something else?

[near wyvern]

The stats are good, Hadron can still brick it tho. Yes it's very good with +maniac, +unyielding and uncanny strike + unstable power. The damage is also getting buffed next patch but they reduce infinite dodges to 5.

[severe folio]

that crit bless

[near wyvern]

If you want to go the defensive blessing route, deflector + unstable power for mutants, deflector + uncanny strike for boss damage.

[torpid girder]

Ty! What perks would I put on it?

[idle bay]

Woke up in the middle of the night today. Decided to run couple of mission. Took my vet for a run. Regular Damnation with 3 zealots. There was no ammo issues (most of it was left upicked), no survivability issues - melee or ranged,.
I really do not understand why vet players complaining that much about nonexistent nerf! Class is more powerful and versatile than ever!

And keep in mind that i was playing half-asleep

And i'm lazy low-skill player

[solar sand]

psyker is stronger, but the other classes are still more than capabale

[strong gulch]

Ok fellow trauma staff users, what's the lowest warp resistance that you're personally comfortable with?

[severe folio]

i dont care at all about warp resistence

[idle bay]

It's "staffing" between gaming chair and PC is what matters most really. Though class having some powerful options to play helps as well

[severe folio]

but i want the rest of the stat to be high

[spice veldt]

enough to comfortably get a charge off when quelling two ticks from 100% peril

(so preferably warp res and quell speed together are high enough)

[vagrant frigate]

@spice veldt healthbar mod

[spice veldt]

and enough to comfortably get 4 blasts from 0% peril (which depends on whether you factor in Warp Flurry or not)

[spice veldt]

op

[tacit flume]

What ate the current best perks/blessings for voidstrikes?

[wet belfry]

The ogryn?

[tacit flume]

voidstrike staff

[wet belfry]

Cannibalism

[tacit flume]

How rude

[strong gulch]

Thanks for the feedback.

48% warp resistance feels a touch too low for me, but I'm going to try it.

[near wyvern]

Perks don't matter, it's that strong. Blessing you want to go with Surge and then either Warp Flurry or Warp Nexus, depending on if you are consistent in hitting heads (flurry) or not (nexus).

[grand raven]

Wouldn't I want Nexus to proc Surge more often?

[static mist]

Trying to get Surge blessing on voidstrike is sapping my soul. 50k plasteel, numerous staffs, no surge. Melk hasnt had it either

[near wyvern]

With true aim you can do guaranteed back to back crits but only if you can consistently hit multiple heads

[severe folio]

i got surge first try

[near wyvern]

Good for you

[static mist]

your faith in the emperor is blinding

[near wyvern]

The best chance to get T4 blessings seems to be from upgrading 370+ base weapons to orange, around 1 in 4 chance, based on experience not gathered data

[rapid token]

What stat should i try getting on my purgatus?

[severe folio]

who is that

[severe folio]

lots of flame, damage, cloud radius

[near wyvern]

Burn 76% or better, cloud radius as high as you can and same for warp resist. Damage and quelling speed are a bonus, not that important.

[idle bay]

I remember anti-sweet-spot for upgrading weapons for 370+ weapons there are certain stats value that have higher chance upgrating into t2 Blessings than into t3 or T4

Becase Fatshark love us

[severe folio]

interesting

[idle bay]

And reason why they do no improve crafting in any way - it might mess up their long term plans on monetising it.

[severe folio]

i see

that’s unfortunate

[idle bay]

Otherwise there is no logical explanation why it's deliberately bad and not commented on at all despite year of non-stop complaiing by players,. Not commented on and not improved in significant way, save for Curios.

[torpid girder]

YESSSS I FINALLY GOT THE PENANCE

It only took me 4 deaths in this mission but it was worth it

[static mist]

In the closed betas there was an entire crafting system they ripped out 😦

[torpid girder]

It was worth it

[wheat acorn]

which build is currently the best for psyker rn?

[torpid girder]

Thoughts on this chainsword? The second one is the one i'm currently using, it has a really low shredder stat

[torpid girder]

I think assail builds are the best currently

[wheat acorn]

ight

[idle bay]

A comfy gaming chair really is the best build.

Throw point in whatever way - everything works

[wheat acorn]

kek

[near wyvern]

They have have commented that they are "looking into it"

[idle bay]

Pygex have some crazy soulfire/smite build

[idle bay]

Corpspeak translation: "kark off peasants" 🙂

[near wyvern]

Assail voidstrike with creeping flames

[strong gulch]

alright. took that 48% warp resit trauma staff out into the wild and it's too low for me. I was pressed

[torpid girder]

what's creeping flames?

[near wyvern]

Alto voidstrike is so strong you could as well forget about assail and ult and just build all the toughness regen you can get as long as you pick true aim for void

[near wyvern]

Fire shout

[torpid girder]

oooh

[static mist]

for getting tier 4 blessings, do you build all the way to legendary or just blue? I havent seen any on blue, just curious

[torpid girder]

i heard that tier 4 blessings were alot more common on golds

[static mist]

I believe it

[torpid girder]

Also, for an assail/voidstrike psyker, is it better to use a forcesword or a chainsword?

[near wyvern]

All the way to orange, the better base level the better chances, around 1 in 4 for every 370+ weapon upgraded to orange. Based on experience not actual data.

[near wyvern]

Duelling sword MK4 or Deimos.

Uncanny strike for both

Shred for duelling sword, unstable power for Deimos

[torpid girder]

ooh okay

[strong gulch]

You can get t4s on blues, but it's definitely more common on oranges.

[spice veldt]

or Bloodletter Chainsword for some boss DPS that doesn't rely as much on hitting weakspots

[torpid girder]

I found a really good deimos earlier i think so I'll try and build it and hope I get uncanny strike or unstable power

[torpid girder]

I would use chainsword but the best one i've found so far alaso has a 52% shredder stat :(

[static mist]

Ive built around 75 blue voidstrik staffs and none have had above a tier 3. I know that sample size isnt huge but it aligns with what youre saying

[torpid girder]

Well actually I just found this, should I consecrate the chainsword or the deimos?

i was already in the middle of upgrading the deimos but it doesn't seem that good

[near wyvern]

Animation lock during monstrosities is a risky business

[spice veldt]

though if you're not their target, it's a fairly good source of DPS

[torpid girder]

Actually, shredder damage doesn't actually matter that mujch right?

because the bleed is what's going to be doing most of the damage?

[tacit urchin]

is infernus lasgun psyker with the fire spreading nonsense a thing people do / will do?

[distant thorn]

I wonder the bleed nerf will hurt the shredder more in the future patch

[vagrant frigate]

bro there are so peopel that are just nuts, like yelling because im not playing in coherency

meanwhile they get hit by every trapper and dog

[tacit urchin]

there's a difference between sneaking off to check boxes and staring at the paint while everyone else is in the elevator

I'm not making accusations

[sullen bobcat]

I stare at paint to wonder what it tastes like

Mmmmm

Chips

[cosmic sigil]

No more infinte dodges 😦

[sullen bobcat]

Tbh it was sorta unbalanced

[cosmic sigil]

Yeah. It was fun nonetheless.

[vagrant frigate]

5 dodges is pretty much infinite

if you pace it

[ornate hamlet]

Does surge only work for primary fire, and not the second?

[cosmic sigil]

Infinite dodging the chaos spawn

[vagrant frigate]

i used to do it to daemon

you didnt need a pillar

[ornate hamlet]

infinite dodge is beeing yeeted.

[vagrant frigate]

now its a lot harder

[ornate hamlet]

😦

[vagrant frigate]

still not too bad

[ornate hamlet]

So, surge on voidstrike, does it apply to both primary and secondary fire?

[sullen bobcat]

Infinite dodges are also infinite slide dodges which go further but also cost twice as many from your dodge counter

[compact cargo]

Still achiveabe the generalist way by abusing cover to kite monstruosity

[vagrant frigate]

surge on m1

[sullen bobcat]

Yes

[vagrant frigate]

wait thats new this patch then

[sullen bobcat]

Sorta a joke but it does do that

[cosmic sigil]

5 is still nice. I am so used to caxe so I won't notice the difference after a few games.

[sullen bobcat]

It's always done that

If you get surge on trauma staff, that's literally all surge does

Double on the primary fire on trauma

[cosmic sigil]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/provisional-patch-14-notes-part-1/84501

[tacit urchin]

does the perk for scriers gaze to reduce peril gain also slow the peril gain of scriers gaze itself

[vagrant frigate]

well yeah

[tacit urchin]

I'm always skeptical about special exceptions

[vagrant frigate]

well i could be wrong

scrier is exponentially peril gain

and kills slow it for a brief moment

so i would assume its just 20% slower

like instead of 1 2 4 8

its like .8 1.6 3.2 6.6

[sly forge]

can someone explain why people recommending the purgatus staff over void/surge?

[strong gulch]

It's low energy friendly.

[sly forge]

hm for me it feels like it deals no damage

or do i need a specific build for it?

[spice veldt]

has an initial ramp-up but soulblaze stacks eventually start doing damage

and it has infinite cleave

can't really go wrong with it

[strong gulch]

I think it's easier to manage hordes, but it's not great against carapace.

Damage over time. has a quick puff primary for stagger.

[sly forge]

I see so its kinda like the zealot flamethrower

[strong gulch]

You'll need something for carapace tho. Like head pops, MK 4 dueling sword, or deimos force sword.

[sly forge]

I feel lke the surge/void is just too strong to give it up

[spice veldt]

yeah p much zealot flamethrower that's worse and is on a class without Fury of the Faithful but has synergy with psyker's talents and can be spammed without caring about ammo

[strong gulch]

Cloud radius and burn are important stats

[summer prairie]

warp resistance is the dump stat since it generates too little peril if anything

[spice veldt]

I don't use it much cuz it's kind of boring, but I whip it out to have a chill day and whatnot

[plucky flax]

Try to build a blaze trauma for real aoe horde clear damage.

[strong gulch]

Yeah, I recommend it for chill play.

Make sure it's above 14% blast radius. 😏

[twilit carbon]

so, im level 30. should i focus on using equipment that will increase my rank until im at max, or do I use equipment im comfortable with until i find an upgrade?

[sly forge]

ah okay,i was just confused why everyone on yt recommending that staff over the void,which can 2 shot those shielded ogryns

[plucky flax]

Maybe those videos are old?

[spice veldt]

in terms of sheer optimality, I wouldn't bring a purg over other staffs

but it does have a role in certain builds

[strong gulch]

Also be aware of when those where posted.

[plucky flax]

Purg is really meh.

[sly forge]

its like a 3 weeks old video

yeah i saw the game had some big overhaul so i check out the dates on the videos

[strong gulch]

From earlier.

TINY FIRE

[plucky flax]

It's recommended for new level 30 I guess since ease of play and what not.

That's..

It's beautiful.

[strong gulch]

It's incredibly bad. 🥰

[summer prairie]

Kind of want to use this but if surge is ever made good, I could make it perfect

[plucky flax]

I'm still waiting for them to give me blazing spirit 4 on my trauma. 4 stacks with 8 cap would be..

[spice veldt]

too much power to be put into traumabros' hands

[strong gulch]

gib

[idle bay]

All what needed for happinees is just a couple of inches. Even if' it's a Trauma staff blast radius 🙂

[summer prairie]

+infested is fine though for SB ticks

[plucky flax]

Surge on trauma even if it worked on secondary will be wasted half of the time. Fire would still be better for much larger aoe damage

[summer prairie]

probably yeah

[strong gulch]

a single toe at a time

[plucky flax]

Unless you do goofy non full charge blast and hope it'll proc surge.

[idle bay]

I think it's possible to precisely cut nails on poxwalker legs with this Trauma staff - one nail at the time 🙂

[strong gulch]

With enough time I will claim the whole foot.

[solar sand]

just finished my first auric5 maelstrom, smite is silly

was even sillier on melee modifier but we lost that one somehow

[plucky flax]

People caught lacking and get 1 shot by mauler or crusher.

You can't relax in melee only modifier.

[spice veldt]

that would never ever happen to me

[vital flint]

Build question, which Dueling sword works best overall?
Looking for a melee to slot in with the purgatus staff

[spice veldt]

not in a million years

[spice veldt]

mk4's the best cuz its heavies deal noticeably more damage than the other two duelling swords for some reason

[solar sand]

i want to love this but voidstrike damage is so silly

[plucky flax]

Tru I haven't seen it on camera.

So never happened to you.

[vital flint]

Ok, thx

[solar sand]

i mean i still love it but, feels less good past 4

[spice veldt]

that's sooooo true!!!! https://streamable.com/bokzfg

[idle bay]

Well i had a Mauler appeared out of nohere right behind my back and inst gib me with one shot on Damnation. Room was epmty - i turned my back to grab a mats and was killed instantly

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/randy-orton-rko-andrade-cien-almas-wwe-royal-rumble-gif-10991146

[cunning yew]

Reject staff psyker, embrace gun psyker

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/squish-hug-cuddle-cute-gif-16232644

[vital flint]

Additional question, which force swords are worth using? Considering Deimos, it feels like it can fill the blanks on the purgatus in terms of elite murdering

[solar sand]

i really like this for crowds

[plucky flax]

Patch next week will make some changes to force swords.

Illisi cleave and damage increase

[strong gulch]

Right now, Deimos and MK 4 are going to fill in the most gaps.

[solar sand]

it already feels good

a buff would be so nice

[spice veldt]

there's also this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1151120360746532934/Woops_wrong_clip.mp4?ex=6540e7e0&is=652e72e0&hm=473c1b51fafa2c1f5c4a7ff9251fa9488c1c3d8581d4dea407239d9002afc91d&

[glad meadow]

would inferno help recon gun deal with heavy armored foes?

[vital flint]

Ok, thx. Gotta be honest, Psyker is the most difficult career for me to wrap my head around

[glad meadow]

psyker is so simple its funny

you are a heretic

DIE

[spice veldt]

idk who this mussat guy is though

[solar sand]

anyone get a t5 viable flames build?

wish the fire was stronger seems lacking to me

[glad meadow]

i think you need good blessing for purge to pop off

i think its like the zealot flamer in this context

[bleak bolt]

is there a bug with disrupt destiny or am I the most unlucky psyker player?
For the first quarter of the mission it works fine, marking an enemy almost every second for me to kill. But then I go for about 3 min into the mission and I get no marks at all. And it's not my teammates killing them either. I'm by my self and nothing is getting marked.
Then towards the end it very sporadically marks a few enemies only to stop marking them for the rest of the mission again
I know it says "a chance to mark" but again it was marking an enemy almost every second at first and then none at all for 80% of the mission

[idle bay]

Sadly it's significantly weaker than flamer...

[plucky flax]

Abuse assail voidstrike before slight nerf.

It's the most easy playstyle right now.

[spice veldt]

yeah, there's a bug where marked enemies don't glow for some reason

[strong gulch]

To be fair there is a lot of ways to build and play, even with similar weapons.

[glad meadow]

yeah but you know, it doesn't run out of steam and it kinda less clunky to switch too

[spice veldt]

and there's some sketchiness with the refresh mechanic on pushing/damaging marked enemies

[hasty valve]

What's the dump stat on Deimos sword?

[bleak bolt]

But it still works then?

[spice veldt]

it's all very unreliable

[glad meadow]

which is kinda make it more fluid as a weapon for me

[spice veldt]

yeah it still works

sometimes you'll kill a non-glowing enemy but still get stacks

[solar sand]

do the other people in the squad get the headhunter buff or whatever highlights?

[spice veldt]

of course, it might mark an enemy a fair distance away while you're fighting some chaff (and you can't just dive them because you don't even know if they're marked)

[solar sand]

precision

[strong gulch]

There's creeping flames with surge and smite.

I haven't tried purge on T5 this patch.

Though I played with a purg psyker while I was using surge. We were a great pair.

[strong gulch]

Or behind walls.

[dim parrot]

purg is really fun imo

combined with blue flame scream

[glad meadow]

damn i just kill a plague orgyn and a daemon host with my staff bash

[strong gulch]

DD is op in ventilation purge though.

[glad meadow]

i am basically Merlin now

[dim parrot]

dd is boring tho...

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-gary-hits-spongebob-spongebob-cane-spongebob-hit-with-cane-spongebob-hit-gif-22608489

[dim parrot]

I think Im gonna replace it with bb

[glad meadow]

what is DD?

[spice veldt]

disrupt destiny

[glad meadow]

ah

[spice veldt]

the bottom-right keystone

[dim parrot]

nvm then I got confused

[glad meadow]

Disrupt Destiny sounds both boring and annoying

[strong gulch]

True, but it doesn't infinite things like other keystones.

[spice veldt]

I enjoy the incentive to dive for the marked targets

on the other hand, the bug with marked targets not glowing ruins the entire point of it

[dim parrot]

nah sry I thought u were talking about smite 4 some reason xD

[vagrant frigate]

gun psyker

[spice veldt]

I enjoy it very much on melee maelstrom where it's basically just a free bonus though

[dim parrot]

I mostly use warp

[spice veldt]

since there are enough elites and bruisers to maintain stacks

[strong gulch]

I did mention it a bit ago. That's probably why.

[spice veldt]

and assail shards can do 1.7k damage on a crit weakspot at max stacks

[dim parrot]

currently I run purg, warp and smite(like I said I might replace it with bb)

[glad meadow]

does it mark multiple targets

or just one?

if it just one then it is dead to me

[spice veldt]

only one target, as far as I can tell

[glad meadow]

i can't be sure i will even see the thing

[vagrant frigate]

arco look at ranged elite kills in that ss

lmfao

[glad meadow]

they could be hiding behind a wall or something

[spice veldt]

wtf

[vagrant frigate]

gang gang

[glad meadow]

and what about allies killing them? WIll you get any stacks?

[vagrant frigate]

i own shit

[glad meadow]

the bonus is delicious, 30% free damage

[vagrant frigate]

you gotta play w me dude

[summer prairie]

DD is supposed to mark a new target if the current target hasn't been in your field of view in 5 seconds (or so?)

[glad meadow]

hmm

i guess, still kinda sceptical but ok

[vagrant frigate]

dd is life

[strong gulch]

they actually do sometimes

[spice veldt]

i have homework for now (don't ask why i have discord open on a monitor)

[glad meadow]

i guess imma try disrupt destiny out to see if i like it

but atm this is my build

[strong gulch]

You can watch as a teammate kills your mark. Almost as bad and not getting the head pop off before someone kill it.

[glad meadow]

im going to shift the last scry node for one with the warp

with this build i feel like i am at almost max peril all the time, even though i keep up Scry constantly the toughness bonus don't linger so it not as up as much as I like

if only the bonus toughness dr linger

[strong gulch]

You'll likely have more points with DD to put into toughness regen passives.

[glad meadow]

i do, yes