psyker-class

[kind glade]

it's not Literally the same but it's so similar that it doesn't matter

[royal granite]

but on the other hand, BB sometimes just fails to work through fences and railings you could easily shoot through

[umbral jetty]

25% flak or unyielding will take you further than 5% crit. it will also increase the burn of targets you are not actively applying burn to

[fresh reef]

50% peril for half the damage and a slow projectile

[sturdy dagger]

so from what ive seen warp flurry and warp nexus is the go 2 for the purge staff but i like the qol of focused channeling so if i was insistent on still taking it what blessing should i swap out for it?

[royal granite]

BB is like a revolver where you take the shot, reload it, and then it deals damage

it's WEIRD

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/ydfsds 😔

the RMB is generally dogshit but is fine up to 50m

https://streamable.com/2qcjd6

[kind glade]

it's 100% more than enough

For every practical application

And then ykno, shits on bb and most other ranged options vs hordes, dogs, flak, etc, etc

[west smelt]

I remember seeing a trick on the subreddit of throwing a shard above a bulwark and then locking on, allowing it to fly over the shield

[royal granite]

you can target with rmb, look in the opposite direction, and then fire it, as long as you don't mouse over any other hostiles

it's really funny

the dart just does a complete 180

[west smelt]

Magical AIM-9X

[whole oxide]

there are 100% times where I've been able to grab things with BB that would be impossible with anything else, not saying its better over-all, but it does have its niche

[royal granite]

it's like that one gun from the fifth element

[spice veldt]

yeah, the RMB has a guaranteed lock onto the enemy that you release it over

which is why I kill two snipers with one shard in the first video

since it flew to the sniper I locked onto, and then I was looking at the 2nd sniper so it locked onto him

[kind glade]

Sure but are those niche cases worth running it over assail

(no)

[royal granite]

yes, that is the advantage of it, however those situations are very infrequent and only occur in certain places on certain maps

every time you're in a big open area a zealot with a revolver will outperform bb

[kind glade]

Rate my tree

[bleak tulip]

you are very scared

[fresh reef]

build/10

[royal granite]

gunk/10

[whole oxide]

if i'm not running BB, then I run smite, just don't like the no-brain assail snooze-fest

[sturdy dagger]

idm assail as a secondary

[royal granite]

i'd like to run smite, however i'm not a big fan of warp charges and EP gives you infinite assail so

[sturdy dagger]

like if its high intensity and ik theres gonna be loads of maulers or crushers i take surge/voidstrike and just launch assail into hordes here and there

[fresh reef]

The one time I decided to run Assail I was forced to clutch (bad teammates) and just couldn't because my brain is so hard wired to use BB

[royal granite]

i played psyker since beta and i had no trouble adapting to assail

for like the two days i used it

[whole oxide]

given that all the situations where assail is better, a staff can also handle, but a staff cannot handle the niche BB cases, it's arguably giving you more functionality

[spice veldt]

i was absolutely happy to be rid of BB

[royal granite]

maybe i'll just say fuck it and do some voidstrike/assail runs

[kind glade]

i honestly rate revolver w/ asail

[fresh reef]

I made an effort to like it but it just felt wrong to me, idk

[bleak tulip]

I tried running BB again and it just still feels bad

[kind glade]

And that's ignoring revolver bugs

[west smelt]

Revolver + Duel Sword and Scrier's gaze is how I do T4 Hi Intensity, I only use BB on ogyrns and maulers to weaken them for teammates or myself

[royal granite]

the assail class fantasy is immaculate, using your telekinetic knives to shank groups of enemies in the face

[kind glade]

just to have an on-demand sniping tool for things you can't reach w/ assail

and anti-carapace

[royal granite]

hey stop whistling at me, i liked the concept before guardians of the galaxy

[umbral jetty]

Dont have surge yet. Which staff would you use.

[spice veldt]

though they are niche for a reason

[sturdy dagger]

not a fan of gun psyker myself but go off, my approach so far has just been obscene soul blaze stacking with those 2 talents and purge staff then BB anything at range

[sturdy dagger]

speaking of purge staff

[whole oxide]

sure, but, 100 + 1 > 100 + 0

[spice veldt]

I don't really value bulwark poking when trauma/void/surge exists and there's the staff bolt/assail RMB for range

and being able to DPS check special encounters by spamming LMB is just very convenient

[royal granite]

you can replace focused channeling with dodge sliding backwards

[spice veldt]

I vastly prefer builds involving assail over those involving BB in terms of optimality

[kind glade]

cant say i agree with that take

[umbral jetty]

arcotash, whats your opinion on the voidstrikes

[kind glade]

but its alright

[spice veldt]

I would rather run trauma + assail + mk4 duelling sword over purg + brain burst + whatever

[fresh reef]

See but the staff bolt requires me to aim, and one of my character's lines is literally "I dont really aim"

It is lore accurate for me to not use it

[whole oxide]

can you give an example of how you disagree?

[sturdy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/i-should-kill-you-kill-kitten-angry-kitten-angry-cat-gif-27264360

[spice veldt]

I don't use it so I can't say, but it seems pretty busted

[sturdy dagger]

me when i one shot a crusher with a funny blue ball

[light knot]

anyone willing to help with me to get this?

if anyone from EU

[west smelt]

I used to be a Zealot main of like 300 hours so those muscle memories translated well into the gunsyker, this is my build taken from reddit. Quickdrawing for Ragers and Maulers then poking their eyes is my main way.

[kind glade]

assail has better coverage than staves

[royal granite]

i used to main voidstrike before the skill tree patch, it's completely ridiculous now

[kind glade]

larger effective area + more versatile

[sturdy dagger]

depending on ur region #vox-lfg-nasa im 90% sure someone in here will help u

[royal granite]

amazing horde clear and also you can use it to snipe literally every kind of special and elite

[spice veldt]

and there's also the shield ult which you'll take 99% of the time to avoid scrier's gaze

[royal granite]

and the projectile is still big enough to headshot people hiding behind cover

[obtuse walrus]

How do you get full screen picture

[kind glade]

gameslantern

[west smelt]

Control + scroll wheel to minimize the website

[whole oxide]

assail might be better at those situations, but staves can still ultimately handle those situations, so all you're gaining is slightly faster progression, not totally new functionality

[obtuse walrus]

Ah the website

[sturdy dagger]

yeah me and my m8 kinda lost our minds when i just threw it on for the first time in a while unaware of the buffs it got, just launched it down a hallway on malestorm and killed like 4 maulers and 5 ragers

[obtuse walrus]

[kind glade]

right but that's the same argument

[west smelt]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a5c5bbf-7cf7-4cd0-8fa1-7afbe625531b/reddit-request?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[kind glade]

as you're making for bb over assail?

BB might be better at niche sniping, but assail can ultimately handle them

Like

[spice veldt]

but builds involving BB aren't going to have vastly more functionality than those involving assail

[kind glade]

xd

[whole oxide]

ummmmm, no

[obtuse walrus]

I like exploding heads

[kind glade]

aight i'm done

[obtuse walrus]

[sturdy dagger]

[whole oxide]

there are definitely situations where things are BB-able but not assail-able

[west smelt]

Same but in a Blunt's way

[kind glade]

yeah but those situations are ultimately irrelevant bc the special/whatever will inevitably move into a better position

[fluid knot]

Hot take; You shouldnt be using Assail (or for that matter Voidstrike) till the things get balanced, because you'll be sad when they do get nerfed

[obtuse walrus]

It's funny watching spike psykers blow up

Because they spam it too mucg

[sturdy dagger]

bro

dont get me started

[spice veldt]

don't worry, I played bolter vet up until it was nerfed and I wasn't sad

[unique mist]

But in those situations anything BBable is voidstrikable with greater effectiveness

[fluid knot]

Yeah.. but you actually understand balance issues.

[whole oxide]

ummmm, no

sometimes things don't stand still

[sturdy dagger]

i got 2 friends into the game so been doing tier 3 with them and dear god these xbox psykers just spam assail and miss the single groaner infront of them and then blow themselves up

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[umbral jetty]

hotter take. Take voidstrike with bubble spam into maelstrom because its fun

[west smelt]

Tbf they use controllers so I kinda get it but also :(

[bleak tulip]

thats why bill gates gave you a mouse

[whole oxide]

did he give you a mouse that allows voidstrike to shoot through cover?

[sturdy dagger]

i mean

[bleak tulip]

youd be surprised how many things you can actually shoot through with void

like fences

[unique mist]

ah yes, don't use the really fun stuff until they become not fun anymore, brilliant idea. I guess i should wait for my food to get cold before I eat it and the sun to go away before I go to the beach too

[bleak tulip]

or those railings you cant BB through to this day

[fluid knot]

Aye, but a lot of people what i see on Maelstrom are only there because Psyker is OP as shit 😂 They still fold like wet tissue the second things get hot. Uninronically, i dont think ive ever seen pugs be this bad

[sturdy dagger]

u can very easily voidstrike at the edge of a wall or just over the top of a box and still get a full hit

[unique mist]

Just aim better

[whole oxide]

yeah, you can't voidstrike into the next room or upstairs, where a special has run off to

[whole oxide]

it isn't about aim, it's about line of sight

[umbral jetty]

psyker has such a busted kit at the moment its pretty nice

I dont really get the love for assail.. the skill ceiling is too low for fun

[unique mist]

if I can't see it, I don't need to kill it yet

[sturdy dagger]

to be fair i feel like everyones busted rn just psyker a lil more so

[fresh reef]

Absolutely fucking disgusting

[spice veldt]

and the special wouldn't be running away if you had the DPS of assail to burst them down before they run away lol

[sturdy dagger]

very fun state for the game idk how it wil go long term

[umbral jetty]

vet blows at the moment

[whole oxide]

"if I can't see it it doesn't exist"

[fluid knot]

That tells me you're only having fun because you're OP, an nah, i dont vibe wit that at all, thats skill issue

[sturdy dagger]

aint vet got some weird stealth fucklery going on with infinite crits?

[spice veldt]

I don't get the "you can kill specials behind cover argument" when BB's DPS is so dogshit (and the lack of a frontloaded stagger) that specials can run away in the first place

[plucky flax]

Not veteran.

[sturdy dagger]

vets the only class i dont play so

kek

[umbral jetty]

its a gimmick

[unique mist]

and hey bro, guess what. To brain burst something you need line of sight first. And in that scenario, you can just kill them with voidstrike before they get behind cover

[umbral jetty]

if I want to play a stealth character I'll play shade in vermintide

[sturdy dagger]

i thought they where cooking but they was coping

[umbral jetty]

brainburst is good on purgatus builds

[sturdy dagger]

my beloved

my exact setup currently 💅 funny fire staff

with the blaze on special kills

nukes hallways

[unique mist]

Only because the soulblaze perks are locked behind BB

[whole oxide]

absolutely not, there are situations where something is not visible for long enough to void, I'm talking 0.01 seconds of line of sight

[sturdy dagger]

this is a really cope argument im ngl

[unique mist]

if something is visible for 0.01 seconds you arent reacting quick enough to brain burst it

This is indeed cope

[umbral jetty]

bad take

there are a lot of situations where you can safely glimpse a special during a slide

[whole oxide]

^^ maybe you aren't

[umbral jetty]

and you can snag it

[unique mist]

idk both of you have some of the worst takes I've seen yet so

and if Arc is disagreeing with you, you know you're wrong

[sturdy dagger]

there are defo scenarios where u just clip it as its running and its 100% dead with BB but the argument of that versus the overwhelming bomba that is voidstrike is pointless

BB still fun though

[west smelt]

I don't rely on BB most of the time, it's just a nice damage burst against orgyrns

[sturdy dagger]

[umbral jetty]

my take is that brainburst is fine on trauma and purgatus

[plucky flax]

Who is this Arc is he even top 1% psyker?

[unique mist]

killing a special sooner than you could with voidstrike occasionally < obliterating anything and everything with voidstrike + surge

[sturdy dagger]

the only time i use it

[spice veldt]

mmm, not on trauma

[umbral jetty]

'fine'

[sturdy dagger]

yeah but

what if i get bored of meta slaving

[umbral jetty]

it works on trauma, but I'd prefer assail

[unique mist]

fair fair

[spice veldt]

"fine" but outpaced by a good amount on trauma by assail

[umbral jetty]

better talents on the assail side

[whole oxide]

why are you comparing BB and Void? they're not mutually exclusive

[spice veldt]

cuz we're talking about the builds that BB/assail enable

and how these builds compare

[umbral jetty]

I really only ever want to see BB on a purgatus psyker

[unique mist]

they overlap by a lot, too, so it's pointless to bring both

me too

or perhaps a gunker

[plucky flax]

Can't take wildfire without bb so.

Actually you can with smite.

[unique mist]

This is the true tragedy of darktide

[royal granite]

that's where i bring it yeah

[umbral jetty]

I tend to go smite on gunker

[plucky flax]

But not with assail.

So assail is pretty useless.

[sturdy dagger]

[spice veldt]

assail users are the most oppressed 😔

[whole oxide]

to be clear, I'm not arguing that BB is "better" than assail, assail is clearly busted, I'm just arguing that BB does have a unique usecase that others can't fill, and therefore isn't totally obsolete

[unique mist]

and you can hold that opinion

[umbral jetty]

Assail / voidstrike are > BB. but there are still those awesome BB moments where you snag a special in that half second of safe window that jsut feel really satisfying

[plucky flax]

It's okay dude I run bb with my blaze trauma build. It seems to work okay for me.

[whole oxide]

it's not really an opinion, BB does have unique usecases that others can't fill

[umbral jetty]

I am curious about building an empowered psyionics BB build

[unique mist]

killing something behind cover occasionally < oneshotting crushers

[kind glade]

Sure but those cases aren't worth not taking assail over it

is my point

[spice veldt]

I disagree that assail is that much worse than BB for peeking snipers

[whole oxide]

the fact that you think that's better, doesn't mean that that unique usecase doesn't exist

[plucky flax]

Giga OP blaze trauma build pls don't copy

[unique mist]

Honest to god I dont take the 30% assail shard regen node anymore

[kind glade]

Why not

Preparing for the nerf?

[umbral jetty]

do the stacks of empowered psyonics give you additional 'charges', or is it an addition of the effects

[sturdy dagger]

thats basically the exact build i use with purge i outta try it with trauma, does trauma need a specific blessing to come online though? it felt TURBO meh last time i tried it

[kind glade]

Extra Charges

[umbral jetty]

a 150% instant cast BB would be really cool

[unique mist]

i just dont want to piss off my teammates

[umbral jetty]

what a shame

[kind glade]

i deadass think

if BB was instant

it'd be fine

[spice veldt]

BB also has a part of its cast where it can't be reduced, so you end up with very heavily diminishing returns

[kind glade]

when compared to the other 2 options

[brittle ferry]

Whats the best fsword

[umbral jetty]

imo the 75% increased speed from its sub-talent should be made into a 75% charge reduction instead

[kind glade]

deimos ilisi both fine

[umbral jetty]

so it would be instant with empowered psyionics

[kind glade]

but i have a secret

"use chainsword"

[plucky flax]

Blazing spirit and warp nexus. You want warp charge damage blast radius as close to 80% as possible + 5% crit chance perk and 25% flak.

So it's very hard to build.

[unique mist]

what if BB functionality was reversed, where instead of charging up you gotta cool down. It's Instant but cooldown depends on health/tier of enemy attacked just like the charge up depends on it now

[kind glade]

get yourself one of these with bloodletter4

[whole oxide]

for peeking stationary snipers, you're right, but not for grabbing bombers that are dancing around out of line-of-sight

[umbral jetty]

bleed is bad

[kind glade]

bleed is no longer bad

[spice veldt]

and being able to spam assail shards through a wall of fire and dink a group of bombers in a fairly quick manner is also a functionality of assail

[unique mist]

Isnt bleed like 200dps per stack or something stupid

[umbral jetty]

bleed is bad. and bleed on psyker is the worst way to do bleed

[kind glade]

bleed is no longer bad

[plucky flax]

Xd

[unique mist]

greed is good

uh

i mean

[umbral jetty]

use Rampage + savage sweep. its better

[spice veldt]

or abusing the fact that assail is one of the better generalist weapons with soulstealer and using it for the toughness regen for more aggressive situations

[unique mist]

bleed is good

[kind glade]

savage sweep vs wrath is literally whatever

[spice veldt]

because you could just hold W with assail

[umbral jetty]

36% power > 14 stacks of bleed

[kind glade]

and rampage is worse than bleed

[umbral jetty]

rampage is 36% power increase now. tooltip hasnt been updated

[kind glade]

you get max bleed after 2 revs on bosses

[unique mist]

tbf, rampage is bugged to deal 2x damage instead of 1.36x or whatever rn

[kind glade]

tooltip has been updated, no?

[umbral jetty]

tooltip doesnt match what their patchnotes say

its fatshark afterall

[kind glade]

the problem with rampage and savage sweep is that they help your hordeclear first

and psyker doesn't need that

[unique mist]

mfw someone suggests a hordeclear melee but I'm using assail

[kind glade]

on the other hand, psyker's boss dps is where they lack most

[umbral jetty]

if you want boss dps go gunker

[kind glade]

solution: bleed chainsword

[unique mist]

mfw someone suggests hordeclear melee but I'm using purgates staff

[spice veldt]

good thing there are two blessing slots and you can take rampage + bloodletter

[kind glade]

Rather have an aoe perk

Proccing rampage on a single target is difficult :p

[unique mist]

mfw I hordeclear plenty fine with mk4 duelling sword

[kind glade]

Anyway yeah

rampage tooltip is fine

[umbral jetty]

no. its not

[spice veldt]

giving up 2x damage?

[unique mist]

increased dodge distance my beloved

[tropic vigil]

Does anyone know if laspistol psyker could be efficient now?

[umbral jetty]

it says damage, not power

they allege that it does power now

which is increased cleave

so the tooltip is wrong

[kind glade]

all the more reason not to click it

[spice veldt]

rampage is also really fucked https://streamable.com/0xpve1

power is damage, cleave, and stagger altogether

+36% power is +36% damage, +36% cleave, and +36% stagger

[plucky flax]

Imagine using rampage on duelling sword.

[unique mist]

Dont even know why it has it

[umbral jetty]

1 push attack and you get rampage

[spice veldt]

tbf there's the mk2 dueling sword, which is the cleave variant

[unique mist]

for all those times I use a push attack

[mental rock]

Is precog actually good on DS now? 60% sounds like a lot, but is it really?

[plucky flax]

I don't use my duelling sword for horde clear.

[umbral jetty]

if you have rampage, you'll use the push attack

[spice veldt]

too bad the mk2 didn't really get buffed

[umbral jetty]

because it gives you 30% cleave/damage/stagger

[spice veldt]

one breakpoint is enabling a crusher two-shot with just weakspots (and uncanny strike stacks)

+60% finesse damage is a good amount

well, at the very least, it's comparable to the other 2nd slot options

[unique mist]

easy way to test if rampage gives power: proc rampage then see if you can cleave 3 enemies and reproc rampage without push attacks on mk4 ds

[spice veldt]

according to commissartyr, rampage is giving the power bonus along with a +50% melee damage bonus on top

[kind glade]

how does that even happen

[west smelt]

How's weapon precog with Scrier's gaze precog? Stacking or something else?

[royal granite]

how do you trigger the dodge effect anyway?

[spice veldt]

no idea how it stacks

additive stacking would be the conservative guess

[spice veldt]

just dodge a melee attack or ranged attack by a stalker/shooter

[royal granite]

i just assumed on dodge triggers would be buggy and never bothered to check

[spice veldt]

if you're the target of an attack and sufficiently close to the melee attack, dodging it will proc the on-dodge blessings

[kind glade]

Honestly on dodge is pretty easy to proc

[whole oxide]

i wouldn't say they're buggy, but, they are un-intuitive sometimes

[mental rock]

You can also hear a sound cue when you get a successful dodge

[spice veldt]

in the case of shotgunners, it's fucked because only the first shot of their volley will count

[kind glade]

Just don't play around it

[spice veldt]

and dodging the subsequent shots of their volley will not proc on-dodge blessings

[royal granite]

shotgunners are fucked up little guys in most ways i find

at least they no longer respond to melee by just gunning you down

[kind glade]

there are literally 2 "on successful dodge" perks and they're both kinda mid

[west smelt]

What's it like?

[forest mason]

Anyone tried making a Melee Psyker yet?
trying to make it work with an Illisi Force sword (Hoard clear one) with the 'Blazing Spirit' and 'Blood Thiristy' blessings
Needs work though :/

[mental rock]

It makes a whoosh sound

[west smelt]

Coolio

[solemn stone]

fatshark, pls, its been months by now

[west smelt]

Duel swords seem to be good for melee psykers along with using scrier's gaze and disrupt destiny

[royal granite]

what's wrong with it?

[amber kestrel]

I'm rocking a scriers gaze build with the same force sword and brain burst, the only difference for what I would reccomend would be to take deflector and take some perks to make your block better along with the talent that gives you peril on block

[forest mason]

Yeah, been thinking that, was trying to make a firesword build work though

[solemn stone]

it deletes eyebrows

[royal granite]

oh that's funny

[forest mason]

Definatly peril to block, just worked out that staves are really bad to use during sciers gaze so need a good gun to pair

[amber kestrel]

Scriers gaze will give you all the damage you really need to properly deal with larger and bigger enemies with the force sword, and being tanker with the block let's you just completely walk at a lot of enemies while holding block

[west smelt]

Revolver or laspistol seems to be good for me, havent used the headhunters yet though

[amber kestrel]

I've been using the staffs as more of a way for me to deal with specialists or to help with where I find myself lacking

I haven't tried the build with a gun yet but the voidstrike staff has been doing really good for me

Mostly using the staffs as a side thing without scriers gaze, which I save for when I'm going to commit to melee

[west smelt]

Same here, but replace the staves with revolver, or use it in a pinch against a swarming horde or lots of ragers/maulers/ogyrns

[steady lion]

What is the best wep combo to use on gun psyker?

[forest mason]

Found a way to share Talent trees
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a6629e9-0fde-4558-b1f2-cc8733c04a4a/fire-sword?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[sonic gale]

would this be worth upgrading

im not sure what the best stuff is for the voidstrike

[vestal fulcrum]

Yes, it would be

[forest mason]

Ooooh revolver would work great, I use a Kantral MK 12 las on my zealot as a backup and it works great

[amber kestrel]

Yes

[unique mist]

Yes

[west smelt]

I also use a Mk12 as I dont trust vets to deal with gunners

[unique mist]

You want max damage charge rate and blast radius, and warp res and quell are nice to haves but they are the general dump stats

[forest mason]

Depends if youre willing to wait for better, definatly very good but Ideally you would want more damage and charge but very workable

[unique mist]

Also what you get is gonna be good enough until you get a better one

[brittle ferry]

Don’t voidstrike destroy gunners

[sonic gale]

unsure if to bin or not now

[amber kestrel]

I think a autogun would also probably do really well if you have a more long range option with a psyker ability

[forest mason]

If you got Sciers Gaze its too risky to use Staves

[amber kestrel]

To be fair voidstrike destroys everything

[forest mason]

Great blessings

[sonic gale]

re roll the perks?

[forest mason]

Transfer Peril particually good

[unique mist]

Mid blessings

[forest mason]

blazing sure, probably want the charge speed one, but peril on weakspot is POG on Void

[west smelt]

That's what the BB is for in how I use it

Revolver for close-med gunners/ragers/maulers, BB for snipers, long range dreg/scab gunners and to weaken ogryns before poking them in melee with duel sword mk 4

[forest mason]

throw though a line of heads and basically repays itself

[unique mist]

Yeah I can't fault Peril

[amber kestrel]

Imo change the unarmored to +10 ranged damage (specialists) and if you get a blessing you like more than blazing spirit to replace it

[unique mist]

I like transfer Peril with warp flurry

[amber kestrel]

That is what I have on my voidstrike

[forest mason]

Blazing spirit is good fun though

[unique mist]

But I replaced it with a surge/nexus roll immediately lol

[forest mason]

but most things die super fast to void staff now so probs not needed :/

[unique mist]

surge/nexus is absolutely god tier

[forest mason]

yeah, warp Flurry or Nexus is great

[unique mist]

Maybe even best weapon in the game tier

[sonic gale]

yeah id probs wait for one of those

[unique mist]

what else can oneshot crushers, solo stunlock and obliterate bosses and clear hordes like nobody's business

[forest mason]

Id swap the unarmourd damage over elite cause youre gonna oneshot 90% of unarmoured enemies anyway

Maniac damage if you hate Mutants, Unyeilding for Ogryns and bosses Id say

[sonic gale]

id probs go maniac damage

[unique mist]

i go either carapace or unyielding

usually unyielding

[sonic gale]

so this? before i click refine lol

[unique mist]

And maniacs on my duelling sword

depends, are you gonna switch out blazing spirit?

and what melee weapon do you use

[sonic gale]

il switch out blazing yeah eventually but i have no blessings atm

duelling sword atm

[unique mist]

mk4?

[sonic gale]

yeah

with maniacs

[unique mist]

Then dont go maniac on it

Go unyielding or carapace, your choice. I say unyielding

[sonic gale]

unyeilding then

instead of unarmored

[forest mason]

I prefer Unyeilding over Carapace cause usually someone will deal with Crushers and Maulers you just body shot, bosses, Bulwarks and Reapers are scarier imo, just more things you will find is all

[unique mist]

Because the maniac enemies go up in your face so you can use your sword to deal with them with your + maniac damage, and also can pre damage them with your staff

e.g. charging mutant, fire off a half charge shot from staff then swap to duelling sword to heavy attack finish them off

[forest mason]

maniac is Mutants, flamers, trappers and Dreg Ragers so all very helpful

[unique mist]

Thats exactly what I do

[karmic copper]

Id go unyeilding also for that. The extra damage on biggies is really nice. And as everyone said, transfer peril with ANY flurry is better than any blessing with rank 3 fire. High value staff to just play. Min max would be surge and 4flurry. A max peril transfer and the right build you can almost indefinitely headshot at max stacks flurry over and over during horde. It is very satisfying

[sonic gale]

thats true, nice one!

[unique mist]

but all those guys can be dealt with melee too, except trappers becAUSE I CAN NEVER CLOSE THE GAP TO STAB THEM IN THEIR STUPID FUCKING FACES BEFORE THEY TRAP ME

[solemn stone]

ok, i gotta ask, is it me or the force swords has been a bit ehh since patch 13 ?

[karmic copper]

That emote is awesome

[unique mist]

i hate trappers

what is a slur I can use against trappers

[west smelt]

I use pre-charge BB if I ever hear them and they're close to me

If I can't in time, blamming with revolver

[solemn stone]

"Something something with a net"

[karmic copper]

@solemn stone i just came back from 6 months off but slaughterer is a third its original damage. Was that just changed? Because thst was my biggest notice

[solemn stone]

they did "balanced" some of the blessings out there

[west smelt]

Speedload used to be "reload X% after sliding" right?

[unique mist]

I also pre charge voidstrike but sometimes I get overconfident with my melee weapon out and try to hunt them down only to get caught out mid heavy attack charge too far away

[karmic copper]

Totally fair. I see people suggesting unwhatever strikes, slaughterer and the peril damage one in equal amounts now which makes getting great weapon that much easier to attain

[sonic gale]

ive gotten a warpnexus lvl 3

i could put that on or wait for a 4?

[karmic copper]

God damn love tide games. I missed it SO much after 6 months away. Only played 4 missions since back and my 4500hr in tide games feels like nothing

[unique mist]

chuck it on, you can always swap later and its better than blazing spirit

[unique mist]

Well they did increase the difficulty

[sonic gale]

can i swap it if ive already changed a perk later/

wont that make it two

rip

[mental rock]

You can change the perks/blessings that you have already swapped, the others will be locked

[unique mist]

you can make two modifications to a weapon's slots. Once changed, they can be changed at any time later at no additional mod slot costs

Of course they still cost materials

[sonic gale]

oh no way

nice

[unique mist]

The other two slots will be locked forever though

until they change the crafting system

[mental rock]

Assuming they will change it at all

[sonic gale]

hopefully they do

[unique mist]

yeah hopefully

[sonic gale]

its way too RNG atm, they should add some blessings to the weekly part

buy a blessign with some weekly tokens or something

[mental rock]

Nah make it a diamantine dump, not a melk dump

I have like 50k Dia but 20k plasteel

Or they could make it so you can remove locks with diamantine

Honestly there are like so many ways they could fix the current system that I'm doubtful they will do any of them

Because if they haven't done any of them, why start now

[plucky flax]

Damn a guy got triggered hard by a zealot running stealth.

[near wyvern]

This. Diamantine should have a flat cost to remove locks and then when you go modify two things you get new locks.

Gives a diamantine sink cause you want to pile some up for the next update.

[karmic copper]

Yeah after coming back i see i have a few dozen bricked items that are like perfect rolled because i kept rolling the same traits and blessings whenever id get a tiny improved base. But theyre all locked now.. waiting for ANYTHING. Even like.. a random drop from doing grims or scriptures. An item scrubber like diablo 3s ramas cube for socketing a weapon even if it didnt roll with socket. Keep the item until you find a rama and then its golden

[mild junco]

I read here a while ago that the purgatus flames were applying soulblazes stacks to enemies, is that true ? Does someone have info on it ?

[mental rock]

Yes purge staff main damage is from the soulblaze stacks it applies

[mild junco]

So purgatus is a godsend for soulblaze build

[mental rock]

Yes, purge staff dump stat is actually damage

And you want burn stat higher than 76% I believe

[mild junco]

Got 80% on mine

dump is warp res and I feel like that's okay

[mental rock]

Important to note is Crits apply twice the stacks, so Crit is strong on purge builds

Warp res dump is fine too

[plucky flax]

Encountered the most stable darktide player.

[hot epoch]

[shy prairie]

grug when someone picks utility + damage over damage + damage

[naive imp]

do y'all think they will actually nerf assail? honestly see them just leaving it as is...haha

[acoustic spade]

So exactly HOW important is Finesse on Deimos swords?

not asking for a friend

[steady lion]

would dump stat be mob or first target?

[mental rock]

Mobility

Or warp res

[sturdy dagger]

blaze swords, why is Mk IV way more popular than MK V? they feel near identical, poke versus overhead?

[acoustic spade]

people usually talk about the force swords by the first word in their name, so Illisi / Deimos / Obscurus

[normal radish]

If I had to guess, Psyker staves are already good with dealing with hordes so Deimos is a better pick for single target damage

[mental rock]

Deimos is popular because of its high mobility and it's high single target damage

[normal radish]

Deimos will crack open Crushers like a can of beans

[acoustic spade]

The Mk V (Illisi) has a Weapon Special similar to a Power Sword, so it increases the cleave

while Mk IV (Deimos) has strong single target damage in that powered up strike

[sturdy dagger]

what makes it so much better than the overhead heavy of obscurus though?both strike down attacks that hit heads very easily

[normal radish]

At least this is why I have a Deimos in my Soulblaze Dragon build

[ionic sorrel]

Mobility and dodge range imo

[acoustic spade]

Obscurus is kind of like the jack-of-all-trades Force Sword

[rain meadow]

do you think theyre gonna keep the infinite electricity bug?

[normal radish]

Obscurus is also just kinda worse than either Illisi or Deimos in terms of both single target and horde clear

[mental rock]

The Deimos has ridiculous weak spot multipliers on its poke attacks, so much that H2 can one hit mutants

[acoustic spade]

truly a master of none

[sturdy dagger]

[normal radish]

Obscurus needs some love man

The other two swords both have better single target damage and horde clear

[acoustic spade]

iirc Obscurus does technically have better horde clear than Deimos

it has larger cleaves on the lights

[normal radish]

Then we have Illisi for that though

[acoustic spade]

But now that we are on the subject, I need to go and check again in Psykhanium since last time I used Obscurus was shortly after launch :P

[forest mason]

Ok so Dueling Sword is great with Sciers and disrupt destiny, REAL good damage omg, Just need a revolver to pair with now

[steel flame]

Na na

[normal radish]

Iirc shredder pistol is better now

[steel flame]

Use dumdum infernus laspistol

[acoustic spade]

Yeah, I guess the "intended" use is to both have some horde clear in Melee and to also have the ability to have a single target nuke on the same weapon

[normal radish]

Or laspistol

[west smelt]

That's my build more or less

[ionic sorrel]

Been having fun with that, but using a chain sword instead of dueling sword.

[sonic coral]

I do the entire right side of the tree with a dueling sword and laspistol

[steel flame]

Laspistol goes pew pew and everything dies

[sonic coral]

Space pirate build

[normal radish]

But because of the balancing it ends up being worse overall

[sonic coral]

Phenomenal

[normal radish]

I want to use dueling swords but I like the look of force swords too much to give them up

[steel flame]

Laspistol was always been on the cusp of greatness, but now it has the crit build it always deserved

[sonic coral]

Hordes and for peril build in lieu of ult - knives, single targets like crushers or maniacs dueling sword, everything else laspistol

[normal radish]

That + Trader's hat is too many Aquilas for my blood

[ionic sorrel]

What blessings are working with the laspistol?

[steel flame]

Dumdum 4 + infernus is the best

Ghost is good

[sonic coral]

I have dumdum and ghost

[sinful bramble]

Traders hat alone made up for all the drowning the psyker has been doing as far as vestments material goes

[normal radish]

I would've gotten it if it weren't for the fact that it costs nearly half the price of a current set

[steel flame]

Infernus is great for confirming kills, and does Amazing boss damage. Then you add the 30% damage of dumdum to the laspistol and the fire dot and everything goes poof

[sinful bramble]

In terms of penance gear Psyker easily has the most drip tho

I desperately need to find an Infernus on a laspistol already

Hella rare

[normal radish]

All this talk about Gpsyker builds makes me wanna make one but I'm already working on my Ripper Ogryn build

[steel flame]

I spent 6 months trying to get dumdum 4

[sinful bramble]

Lemme sacrifice like 5 yellow laspistols to get a blessing I don't have please

I already have dumdum 4 I think, and have seen it multiple times both III and IV

Sire Melk has the best track record of giving me blessings I'm missing at least

[sonic coral]

I like ghost because if you're in a tight spot it does help with survivability

Very much a "do not get hit" talent tree

[sinful bramble]

Yeah definitely fits

[vagrant frigate]

I only play gun psyk

[normal radish]

That + Really cool name

[sinful bramble]

I'm more of an OG psyker but gunker has its merits

[vagrant frigate]

i just wanna be saltzpyre

[steel flame]

I used to have ghost but empathic evasions is pretty much ghost but better and with a possible 45% base crit chance on laspistol its always reliable

[vagrant frigate]

my build 1shot crushers lol makes me feel at home

[sonic coral]

This is the first and only time I've done a gun psyker because it feels like an actual fun build and not a cheese build to exploit head pops

[vagrant frigate]

saltz

[acoustic spade]

Just look at all these Deimos swords that have a damage % above 50 that I have found

[sonic coral]

Good point

[vagrant frigate]

nah bro Mk4 is saltz

also u rlly took a SS for me

💀

[acoustic spade]

The 356 one would otherwise be alright but 52% Mobility will probably make me miss mutie dodges

[normal radish]

I'm just goofin man

[vagrant frigate]

did u actually click new character

And take a ss

lmfao

[normal radish]

Also I got that image off of google

[vagrant frigate]

o ok

[sonic coral]

It's funny with the mk 4 dueling sword watching people panic to save you against muties, hordes of mailers and crushers only for them to all be dead by the time they react

[vagrant frigate]

ikr

[normal radish]

I was under the impression that Mobility is a dump stat

[vagrant frigate]

I won't play without 80 mob

idc I wanna be fast

[sonic coral]

God and running around like sanic

[vagrant frigate]

also the Dodge perk for psyk is sooo nice

[sonic coral]

With all stacks on and the ult going

[vagrant frigate]

ikr

40% move apeed

[sonic coral]

Fuck, incredible

[vagrant frigate]

• mk4

[acoustic spade]

It can be, but I found a 30% Mobility weapon that made my dodges feel like I just stood still with a weird animation

[normal radish]

I was told Mobility affected dodge range, now I know why my Psyker is slow as fuck compared to everyone else

[vagrant frigate]

literally the second you miss a crit you get mowed down though lol

[vagrant frigate]

it does

[sonic coral]

Yea you absolutely do not want to get touched by even a stiff breeze

It's the cocaine build

[acoustic spade]

I keep this around just for the mobility stat

[vagrant frigate]

I'm tryna get shred + uncanny

so I can have more crit

only times I die is when my dude decides to not crit twice Ina row

[acoustic spade]

Would you like a High-mobility Mk IV Duelling Sword?

[sonic coral]

It helps to throw a bunch of knives even at nothing going in if you're not using your ult for the toughness gen

[vagrant frigate]

finesse 80 where

[vagrant frigate]

I run surge for the perks it unlocks 💀

[sonic coral]

You have to juggle a lot more shit with it to make it work

[vagrant frigate]

I never use it tho

[sonic coral]

Ah gotcha

I like knives for trash clear

And peril gen

[vagrant frigate]

yeah

[pliant sandal]

I'm running purgatus scrier, focused on crits to build stacks as fast as possible. It's alot of fun but super risky.

[sonic coral]

They definitely did a good job making glass cannon psykers more of a realistic tactile difference

[steel flame]

160% movement speed actually

[vagrant frigate]

I literally only run surge for the ult cool down perk

[vagrant frigate]

20 from ult 20 from killing marked target is what I meant

[acoustic spade]

I guess you are not hordeclearing with that

[vagrant frigate]

rampage hoard clears

but yeah no I just poke shit

:)

[pliant sandal]

I'm expecting assail to eat shit in a coming patch so I'm trying not to rely on it as much.

[steel flame]

15% from crit perk at top, 5% passive in tree, 20% from scrier, 20% from destiny

[sonic coral]

Yeah I do miss a few of the perks on that side but for me it's pretty much all right side

[vagrant frigate]

I don't need the warp DMG on non warp kill cuz I run surge

[pliant sandal]

Is the soulblaze 4 stacks on elite kill a wasted point?

[vagrant frigate]

BB would probably make more sense but idc

[steel flame]

No

[vagrant frigate]

for when I have 0 ammo

[sonic coral]

Not even if you take no other blaze perks no, not wasted

[steel flame]

It's great since there's no sb cap on that perk so the more elites you kill the faster everything around them dies

[normal radish]

Pre-patch it used to be shit-tier unless you ran purgatus

[vagrant frigate]

@sonic coral do you run the same scrier and marked target perks

I can get 30 stacks but I 1 shot crushers with 15 so I pick durations

[sonic coral]

Yea literally the entire right side ha, I use extended duration tho

[steel flame]

This is what I run in auric maelstrom for my las crit build

[vagrant frigate]

I have extended duration

[sonic coral]

Yep, I like marked targets too tbh

[vagrant frigate]

half the time it doesn't highlight people

it's annoying

[sonic coral]

Often they're right next to you anyway

[vagrant frigate]

yeah

[sonic coral]

Technically it's only a chance of a highlight

[vagrant frigate]

it doesn't highlight trash mobs

I thought it highlighted 1 every second

[sonic coral]

It does for me, weird

[vagrant frigate]

huh

It doesn't make them blue for me

but if I kill I get the perk

only shooters and stronger

[mental rock]

DD does not mark poxwalkers

[vagrant frigate]

it does but it's not visible

[sonic coral]

Oh I see what you mean

Yea

[vagrant frigate]

my stacks refresh constantly in hoards

just can't tell who it is

I think

[sonic coral]

We'll see how much they fuck us next patch, maybe I'll never use this build again, who knows

[steel flame]

Fuck you on what exactly?

[vagrant frigate]

No way they would nerf scrier

It's shit comparatively

[mental rock]

Assail is likely to be nerfed imo

Shield CD will likely be fixed aswell

[vagrant frigate]

its boring anyways

yeah shield warp charge bug

Still a strong ability

[hollow jolt]

Anything to stop gunners

I swear Vets just don't target ranged enenies

[vagrant frigate]

I run mk7 for that reason

1 shits gunners on crit

[hollow jolt]

Had 2 Vets in a game -> no gunners died

[vagrant frigate]

krk

[hollow jolt]

Had to wait on an Assail Psyker lol

[normal radish]

My guess is overall because I've seen some people complain about how powerful Psyker is compared to Vet

[hollow jolt]

Vet should get a megabolter pls

Stormlord subclass with lascannon sponsons UwU

[mental rock]

Meh, I don't see them nerfing psykers overall. Vet mains just like to complain because they were used to being OP for 8 months

[hollow jolt]

Indeed

[normal radish]

Now you actually have to play like a Guardsmen and not stand there gunning everything down while taking no damage like a fuckin T-1000

[tired estuary]

vet mostly needs tree node placement redesigned and for smoke grenades to not be literally useless

[still hearth]

I guess its kinda silly not to take Warp Rider then

[normal radish]

I feel slightly stupid for using smite with Warp rider but I got tired of Brain burst after using it since release and Assail is boring

[still hearth]

Well

Just having Warp Rider

Gives +10% to damage

So no matter what you do

You should run it if you can

And Smite (non-empowered) generates so much peril

So its amazing to combo with Warp Rider

And trust me if you run Empowered Smite you're doing yourself a disservice

If you want to smite forever then Warp Charges with peril reduction is

[hollow jolt]

Telekine shield is pretty nice

[still hearth]

Basically just better

[dim parrot]

fr just the ones u wanna kill with melee

[hollow jolt]

Less stressful being blasted by like 15 gunners

[near wyvern]

Smite ain't stupid if you pair it with the right talents. (infinite smite is not the way, try adding some flame and warp siphon)

[normal radish]

I mean I'm also using Warp charges over Empowered Blitz so

[dim parrot]

shits annoying

[south bridge]

This Warp Battery penance man. Aach.

[hollow jolt]

Had 2 Vets, one died to a crusher patrol and at the very end of the mission I learned they had krak grenades lol

[outer owl]

what is this hat?

[hollow jolt]

Yeah its such a pain

[dim parrot]

bruh

vets be very special sometimes

[normal radish]

Trader's hat from the Aquilas store

[near wyvern]

It's a pirate hat with a sexy veil

[hollow jolt]

You'd think Vets would play better with how squishy they are now lol

[south bridge]

Been trying purg in Hishock but gee wizz. Torture

[dim parrot]

lmao

[plucky flax]

No buy cos of veil.

[still hearth]

I noticed a small thing on the guide. You can take this node from the Health Boost node as well. Idk if it really matters.

[normal radish]

Yeah I don't exploit Infinite Smite

[dim parrot]

and then they cry if I whip out my assail and do the same to them

[hollow jolt]

Hi-shock Purg + Telekine shield worked for me but idk how I'd do trying for a penace lol

[still hearth]

It's so bad it's not even worthy of being called an exploit

[hollow jolt]

Infinite Smite does look cool though

[still hearth]

People think they're helping but in Auric using it like that is genuinely bad.

[dim parrot]

just for funs and giggles

[hollow jolt]

I have to admit, I think it looks the coolest of all the spells

[still hearth]

Spawn timers ain't waiting for your team to kill stuff

[plucky flax]

Challenge accepted. I am playing auric maelstrom using unlimited power smite only.

[normal radish]

Using smite too much already hurts my hands why would I ever think of casting it infinity

[still hearth]

I believe in you Agent

[plucky flax]

[near wyvern]

Same

[hollow jolt]

I actually find it works best in Auric due to Shock Trooper + High inten

[dim parrot]

shit idk masochist or something?

[hollow jolt]

But yeah it does require a team with a positive IQ

[still hearth]

Normal smite is fine

But if you use infinite smite

That's a paddlin

[near wyvern]

Oh that's true, gonna add it in

Possibly same overlook on the other side as well

[still hearth]

Oh yeah

[normal radish]

If I were a masochist I'd go into vet chat and then mention Assail

[hollow jolt]

I'm not getting trained by waves of mutants again, one Auric Maelstrom was enough for me

[dim parrot]

yeah nah I ain't waiting till someone helps me out, imma just kill the shit myself

[still hearth]

Use the Duelling Swords, sibling.

One shot the muties

Bang bang

[hollow jolt]

"Waves of mutants, waves of poxbursters"

[buoyant pivot]

What is this infinite smite build now?

[hollow jolt]

Ah I was using Deimos

[still hearth]

It's just Empowered Psionics with Smite

It makes SMite cost 0 peril

[hollow jolt]

Was thinking the charged attack would do better

[still hearth]

And it doesn't stop unless your each 100% peril

So

But the damage on smite is so poo poo

It could be fun on like

Malice

[dim parrot]

lmao

then u could also just bitch slap every enemy

[buoyant rapids]

smite is OP

[buoyant pivot]

Smite seems like just a way to be a team support. You stun/stagger every enemy and someone else kills them

[dim parrot]

so boooooring imo

[still hearth]

Yeah but this game doesn't really care about that

[buoyant pivot]

I kinda feel like assail is boring

[still hearth]

99% of the game

Killing the things

[dim parrot]

if u overuse it yes it is

[still hearth]

Is way better than having them now move for a bit

[hollow jolt]

Stealth Zealot pacifist run 😎

[still hearth]

[dim parrot]

lmao befriend the enemies

[normal radish]

I don't actually use smite all that often, only in the event of Bulwark/Crusher trains

[still hearth]

Yeah that's the right way

With Warp Charges you can also keep it up so long so its just better

Why miss out on 24% damage and 36% peril reduction

To do the same thing but worse??

[hollow jolt]

Just guarding the coolant cells then suddenly they just start moving

[still hearth]

[copper fox]

Is there any reason to choose disrupt destiny over warp charges?

[normal radish]

I had to sacrifice to two upgrades to it to get the guaranteed crits

[hollow jolt]

No

[still hearth]

You like being hipster and using your ult

[hollow jolt]

Disrupt Destiny is a noob trap

[plucky flax]

Don't play stealth zealot or you get flamed.

[hollow jolt]

Stealth Zealot is fine as long as you don't fuck off across the map

If I see a Chainaxe stealth Zealot

[still hearth]

Stealth Zealot is literally able to do the Batman meme

Of disappearing

[hollow jolt]

I know they're throwing

[still hearth]

In a crowd of enemies

[sharp fractal]

what are the best staffs?

[still hearth]

Ove rand over again

And they instead run Knife

And go kill one Sniper

[dim parrot]

lmao what a bunch of gremlins

[still hearth]

[copper fox]

All staffs are pretty good if built around well imo

[plucky flax]

Never seen a guy so mad in dt before.

[hollow jolt]

Purg and voidstrike depends on what role you want to fill

[still hearth]

All of them. But Purgatus is bester.

[normal radish]

The smartest use of stealth Zealot I ever saw was one using their Ult to clutch a game by avoiding enemies and reviving a downed player

[plucky flax]

He keeps disconnecting and joinning back til the end to make us 3 man the mission.

[still hearth]

This is like the lowest bar of invis use

[hollow jolt]

I had one use stealth to rush objectives

It was pretty clever I have to admit

[still hearth]

If you don't use your Stealth for shit like ressing and doing objectives

Idk what you're doing

It has 0 cooldown

[normal radish]

Like

[still hearth]

Just swing into a horde twice

[normal radish]

Likely a testament to how rare they are for me at least

[still hearth]

Wow you got it back

You can literally

[dim parrot]

honestly

[still hearth]

Get the CD back

WHILE INVIS

RIGHT NOW

???

[dim parrot]

never met an invis guy before

[hollow jolt]

Stealth is pretty hard to get value from compared to Relic

[normal radish]

Even then Zealot is my least played class

[still hearth]

I mean its really easy but people use it so poorly

[sharp fractal]

is there any staff that does good dmg against bosses?

[still hearth]

[hollow jolt]

Same, I play Ogryn for the Unga Booga mode

[still hearth]

All of them do decent. Voidstrike probably has highest DPS if you want to only use the staff. Purgatus if you max stacks and then swap to melee might be better.

[hollow jolt]

I agree :c

[still hearth]

Literally walk up to a horde

Hold LMB

[near wyvern]

So it seems but you can build it to eat hordes for breakfast:

• perilous combustion
• battle meditation
• smite
• enfeeble
• wildfire
• warp siphon
• inner tranquility
• in fire reborn
• warp battery

Get to 84+ peril with smite RMB, ult and keep holding RMB until you automatically quell. If you did everything right, you can quell back to around 50, start RMB again and repeat the process. You rarely need to ult the second time tho.

[still hearth]

Press active

Release

Free invis

???

And then if someone goes down

You have invis

To ress

???

[olive ember]

warp battery smite

[dim parrot]

btw, I really chuckle every time someone leaves because they see u r a psyker and use assail

[olive ember]

imagine not using game mechanic of infinite smite like the devs intended

[hollow jolt]

Vets have trouble just shooting people. I can't imagine a Zealot trying to not left click spam 😔

[still hearth]

I mean they need to use specific weapons

(A.k.a not the Knife)

And invis people can't do that

[forest mason]

Anyone got any preference on Dueling swords, which is prefered?

[dim parrot]

challenge: impossible

[still hearth]

Mk 4

It's just too good rn

[near wyvern]

Mk 4, superior heavies

[hollow jolt]

I find it funny that Eviscerator can go invis

Just suddenly a chainsaw sword just disappears in front of you

Morale broken 👀

[dim parrot]

does the sound stop aswell?

[near wyvern]

Well yes, you just stuff it up your A hole and keep a straight pose

That's how you hide it

[hollow jolt]

I'd like to imagine it does

[hollow jolt]

The Emperor protects 🙏

[still hearth]

ᵛᴿᴼᴼᴹ ᵛᴿᴼᴼᴹ

[forest mason]

Omg, I was testing between the other two, was about to try this (didnt have one upgraded) its real nice 😮

[hollow jolt]

Either it suddenly go silent or a chainsaw sword is now revving while invisible.

Nurgle's blessing better help against psychological attacks :p

[still hearth]

"In the shadows..."

[near wyvern]

I like to think stealth eviscerator zelaots just have Pyro vision on and they think they are setting up surprise birthday parties around Tertium

[ornate hamlet]

Does someone know which skill tree perk is more impactful, 15 toughness vs. 5% toughness damage reduction?

[forest mason]

Invis does let you see though the vent purge fog, at least on zealot 🤔

[still hearth]

15 toughness is always better.

You'd need to have 300 toughness to get more from 5% toughness DR

[ornate hamlet]

I thought so. Thank you. 🙂

[hollow jolt]

300 toughness psyker would be funny

[still hearth]

I think you can stack the Toughness DR to make it better but idk if its worth even then

So definitely take more toughness over DR if you can

[hollow jolt]

You can as Vet due to all the toughness resist they can stack

But yeah 99% of the time not worth it

[still hearth]

Vet stacking toughness DR: Okay
Zealot stacking both toughness and normal DR: THE EMPEROR PROTECTS

WHAT DO YOU MEAN 75% PURE DR FOR 4 SECONDS WITH A 10 SECOND COOLDOWN IS BROKEN??

[normal radish]

That resets when you kill a highlighted dude

[still hearth]

Yeah almost like

75% DR

Shouldn't be in the game period

Meanwhile Ogryn can stack so much DR they can tank sniper shots with toughness now

[normal radish]

Lore accurate Ogryn

[forest mason]

@near wyvern @still hearth Any Perk and Blessing reccomends for Mk 4 Dueling sword?

Just found this bad boy at bottom of inventory

Going for Melee Psyker Scier/ Destiny build with it

[hollow jolt]

Good luck

[forest mason]

assuming shred, then Uncanny Strike or Agile?

[vagrant frigate]

uncanny shred

imo

[forest mason]

yeah probs

[vagrant frigate]

its what i want lol

[forest mason]

hahaha good luck

[still hearth]

You kinda need

A Force Sword with exorcist I Think

To use melee only with Scrioer

Otherwise it will always run out before you get max stacks

Or staff swap to quell

[forest mason]

ooooh yeah, was playing around with the single target pointy force sword, was nice to quell if yoi had a break during scirers

[bleak tulip]

uncanny and shred

[normal radish]

Deimos?

[forest mason]

God blessings should be universal no matter what weapon you unlock them on, then also not say you dont have it when you got a higher version, or getting a higher version gets you all the lower ones too

[grand scroll]

???

[forest mason]

Yeah, figure the stabs and finesse are great for getting weakspot kills for sciers and disrupt

[noble phoenix]

finally farmed a broken flame thrower, but tbh it seems underwhemling

[forest mason]

had a pretty good one for a while now but cant seem to do great, so great job

[royal granite]

patch notes jumpscare

[noble phoenix]

Been using a bolter for awhile, but to be fair nothing is going to beat the feel of blowing apart shit lol

[bronze seal]

Assail is getting nerfed

[digital narwhal]

WE ARE SO BACK

[forest mason]

Its only really strong at lower difficulties...?

[valid spire]

smite got fixed as well, but with a damage buff

[forest mason]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-happy-dance-praise-yas-excited-gif-18656424

[bronze seal]

● Shifting power, to reduce spammyness of primary attack but increase the usability of
the secondary aimed attack:
○ Reduced power of primary action from 250 to 200
○ Increased power of secondary action(aimed) throw from 250 to 340 or 400 if
talent “Empowered Psionics” is active
● Fixed an issue where “Assail” projectiles would lose targeting when Force Swords
are wielded
● Fixed an issue that could cause the animation and action for “Assail” to be stuck if
you were attacked while aiming a shard
● Fixed an issue where “Assail” would play critical strike sounds globally and in 3D```

[molten schooner]

Big Shield boost

lets goo

[digital narwhal]

Fair tbh

I like this change

[molten schooner]

Same.

It was basically win game button

[royal granite]

i don't know if it's enough

[quasi jacinth]

rest in peace, infinite chain lightning lol

[forest mason]

having the secondary do more makes way more sense, I like that

[digital narwhal]

At least it does damage now

[silent chasm]

I don't speak weirdass Fatshark % talk. Someone tell me, did they nerf the Voidstrike staff into the ground?

[forest mason]

span for hoards aim for snipe

[quasi jacinth]

true, but I will miss my "unlimited powahh"

[ebon jolt]

They fixed the BR EP bug I reported. I feel like I made a difference 😮

[forest mason]

I used to get pretty decentish damage out of smite, doesnt need it though as it locks down the whole room

[digital narwhal]

Shield spam is gone

but Shield got buffed

[royal granite]

haw

[bleak tulip]

not sure how nerfing the damage makes it less spammy but making right click better is nice

[forest mason]

Try with Warp Siphon with the Peril Reist, lasts a while (chance to quell on kill near top very nice too)

[digital narwhal]

[bleak tulip]

still BiS

[royal granite]

yep

[molten schooner]

Voidstrike slightly nerfed

[royal granite]

uncalled for

[digital narwhal]

Aura changes

[molten schooner]

rip

#📢news-bulletin

[digital narwhal]

Kinetic Presence is RIP now
Presience and Seer's Presence are now the only choices tbh

[forest mason]

Why drop the 10...?

[digital narwhal]

No clue

No clue AT ALL

[ebon jolt]

Where are there so many changes to the staff melee action?

[forest mason]

combustion already eh....

[molten schooner]

Illisi also buffed

lol

[primal plume]

Dev Note: Smite being able to channel without cost when Empowered Psionics was active
was a bug. We do however feel that without it Smite can feel a bit lacklustre in combination
with Empowered Psionics, so we’re further increasing the power of it. We’ll be keeping an
eye on it, and are up for doing something related to cost in the future as long as it’s more
balanced this time around!

○ Increased bonuses from Talent “Empowered Psionics” - +125% Damage,
50% faster spread between enemies
○ Fixed an issue where the Talent “Empowered Psionics” incorrectly made
Smite not cost any Peril

INTERESTING

[digital narwhal]

I mean, most people were using Presience for Crit Builds or Seer's Presence for Ability Spam

[bronze seal]

this is actually quite good -

● Added a 10% Quell to base “Psykinetic’s Wrath” ability. Meaning that Psykers who
don’t have the upgraded “Psykinetic’s Wrath” still can use the ability to avoid
downing themselves.```

[digital narwhal]

I dunno why Kinetic Presence got nerfed

[silent chasm]

Combat ability - Psykinetic’s Wrath
● Added a 10% Quell to base “Psykinetic’s Wrath” ability. Meaning that Psykers who don’t have the upgraded “Psykinetic’s Wrath” still can use the ability to avoid
downing themselves.
Wasn't expecting this, this is nice.

[digital narwhal]

Good for levellers, ye

:)

[molten schooner]

no idea. I didn't feel like it needed to be but I guess they have access to stats we don't

[digital narwhal]

[bronze seal]

● Aura Talent “Kinetic Presence” - Reduced the Damage bonus from 10% to 5%```

[digital narwhal]

I'm still just gonna use Presience for Crit Builds and Seer's Presence for Ability spam anyway

So

[bleak tulip]

Changed Force Swords dodge limit from Infinite to 5 (same as Combat Knife)

it's so over

[bronze seal]

is the Soulblaze change a buff?

[dim parrot]

oh no...

[ebon jolt]

To make veterans feel less terrible about their 3% damage buff aura?

[royal granite]

vet's smoke grenade got exactly what i wanted for it

small stagger

[digital narwhal]

kekw

[molten schooner]

Chad Psykers being punished due to virgin vets

[tacit urchin]

Talent “Perilous Combustion”
● Reduced the numbers of Soulblaze stacks applied to nearby enemies on Elite or
Specialist kills from 4 to 3

Am I confused here or did it go from niche to do not take ever

[molten schooner]

What a terrible world

[bronze seal]

● Reduced the numbers of Soulblaze stacks applied to nearby enemies on Elite or
Specialist kills from 4 to 3```

[digital narwhal]

At least we got BB and Smite buffs!

[dim parrot]

so uh, we psykers still ballin or nah?

[digital narwhal]

[hollow bronze]

when is this patch coming out?

[forest mason]

Used to use the 10% damage aura on any of my Warp Siphon builds because you didnt need the cooldown 😦

[molten schooner]

absolutely

[digital narwhal]

We are still ballin'

It's fine

[dim parrot]

HELL YEAH

[tacit urchin]

because fire needs like 6 stacks to actually do any meaningful damage

[digital narwhal]

Honestly Soulstealer was a little overtuned

[tacit urchin]

taking even one away

[digital narwhal]

So it's fine

[molten schooner]

BB really needed a buff compared to Assail

[forest mason]

https://tenor.com/view/russianbadger-badger-gif-5744868446560955949

[digital narwhal]

and it got it!

[molten schooner]

I was running it for fun but felt very underpowered lol

[plucky flax]

10% elite damage aura to 5%. That's so poopoo.

[molten schooner]

Now it's gonna be way more satisfying

[dim parrot]

so can u bb more often now?

[molten schooner]

yes

[dim parrot]

uuuuuuh

[forest mason]

BB gonna feel great now 😄

[digital narwhal]

What's even the point? lmao

[molten schooner]

This is also fucking awesome

[dim parrot]

imagine bb is new assail

[molten schooner]

Very minor change but very impactful imo

[digital narwhal]

EP BB might very well be the best snipe in the game now

[plucky flax]

I'm just running cd reduction aura from now.

[forest mason]

Heads up PATCH NOT OUT YET, but soon tm?

[digital narwhal]

I always ran Presience and Seer's Presence.
I don't understand why Kinetic Presence needed a nerf

[dim parrot]

but less shields? :(

[tacit urchin]

how is shield spam gone? I see nothing about its cooldowns

[digital narwhal]

BIG ASS notes, so probably giving us time to read first

[dim parrot]

do they mean bubbles?

[plucky flax]

Yeah it was a good viariety for 3 auras.

[forest mason]

yeah noticed

[ebon jolt]

Agreed. One ilisi special and full toughness back. 50% reduction feels kinda bad though. Could have left it at 10%?

[plucky flax]

Now no one is taking the crappy 5% damage increase.

[digital narwhal]

"Fixed an issue about Warp Siphon granting instant cooldown"

[forest mason]

didnt know bubbles had a minimum time, love thats there and got some love

[digital narwhal]

Replied to the wrong message but

still

they fixed the one Warp Charge giving your entire Shield back

[tacit urchin]

so bubble is unbreakable for at least 6 seconds then?

[digital narwhal]

Yes

[tacit urchin]

even if the whole map is gunners and they're firing

[dim parrot]

will illisi still be good?

[digital narwhal]

Shield got a pretty hefty buff tbh

[molten schooner]

unlimited defense

[digital narwhal]

Yes

[forest mason]

Noticed it did that, thought I had mathed wrong xD

[ebon jolt]

They didn't fix the bug where warp siphon CDR does not affect Gaze. Hope they're still working on that.

[molten schooner]

it got buffed brother

just no soul stealer gang

[bronze seal]

FYI: Changes are NOT FINAL -

Just to make you aware these notes and changes are not final, and may still be changed before the release.

[dim parrot]

phew

[dim parrot]

👀

[forest mason]

Hope for Elite damage aura then

[dim parrot]

thats a win in my book

and what about void? is it poopoo now?

[forest mason]

Illisi is great fun so love to see it get some love, super useful for getting breathing space, love the warp slash on it too