shard all over them
#psyker-class
bleak tulip
royal falcon
ain’t this modded fallout 😭
sturdy dagger
ain’t this modded fallout 😭
i unno
devout umbra
Darktassailde
spice veldt
nice photoshop, kid
bleak tulip
nice photoshop, kid
thanks I did it myself
devout umbra
wait until he hits tier 4 and meets a crusher
Legally that is the zealot's job
devout umbra
Even a crumb of thammer on the team, I beg
sturdy dagger
Or just use the chad brain rupture
reef nacelle
can you taunt demonhosts?
long plank
So I want to try Trauma at some point soon, is this a decent start? I'll want the Brittleness blessing to go with Flurry (preferably 4 for both), but what about perks?
royal falcon
can you taunt demonhosts?
you can push them with your relic
devout umbra
I think it's whoever hits the host first, I don't think ogryn taunt works
sinful bramble
So I want to try Trauma at some point soon, is this a decent start? I'll want th...
Perks look fine to me
reef nacelle
you can push them with your relic
can ogryns taunt them?
devout umbra
can ogryns taunt them?
No
dawn wolf
Just checked it out. Some furry forced the conversation by misinterpreting 'chaxe' with genitals and they all got riled up. Looks like a standard chaos invasion beach head to me.
sturdy dagger
go ask the ogryns la creatura
bleak tulip
So I want to try Trauma at some point soon, is this a decent start? I'll want th...
yea
royal falcon
can ogryns taunt them?
idk this ain’t #ogryn-class
long plank
Perks look fine to me
Neat, thanks
devout umbra
What's Brittleness? Can't find an in game glossary
sinful bramble
I do appreciate that the plasma gun can actually kinda chunk monstrosities now
thin finch
can you taunt demonhosts?
if you are an ogryn, yes
thin finch
otherwise they will stuck to the one who awoke them, unless it's a vet / zealot going invisible after waking them up
sturdy dagger
average ogryn
devout umbra
The Ogryn taunt roar doesn't work on daemonhosts that have slected a target
devout umbra
I've tried several times
thin finch
I've tried several times
F in the chat then
sturdy dagger
it would be great if we had a monster in the meat grinder 2 test on
thin finch
it would be great if we had a monster in the meat grinder 2 test on
you can, but you need mods
sturdy dagger
i often run flame staff with brain rupture and idk if just over stacking blaze is better long term dps than spamming rupture on bosses
devout umbra
Where meat grinder plaugryn
slate sun
the best way to taunt daemonhosts is to fire a full charge void ball out of view range and accidentally hit it
devout umbra
Just make the zealots and vets kill the bosses 
sturdy dagger
weak aura
thin finch
the best way to taunt a daemonhost is to leave it the fuck alone
sturdy dagger
the best way to taunt a daemonhost is to leave it the fuck alone
tell that to my level 15 veteran in tier 4 who just french kissed it
fresh crater
thanks trying now
slate sun
the best way to taunt a daemonhost is to leave it the fuck alone
passive aggressive stares only then?
devout umbra
The sexual tension between my out of ammo veteran and the daemonhost
thin finch
passive aggressive stares only then?
you can t-bag while looking at them cry in their misery because they have no drip
devout umbra
Palpable
sturdy dagger
the wave of xbox players who dont know what a shove is has been haunting my dreams
slate sun
XD
sturdy dagger
they LOVE daemonhosts
devout umbra
Xbox players have never imagined pushing or dodging
Gigachads just taking every attack to the teeth
thin finch
tell that to my level 15 veteran in tier 4 who just french kissed it
I have accompanied one of my friend trough malice,
I've been pinging daemonhost only to watch a zealot shower them in flame a second later 
sturdy dagger
FR
sturdy dagger
I got 2 friends new 2 the game trying 2 teach em and they already know better right out the gate
olive ember
Make them ignore a special every minute
royal falcon
Needs to be tankier
double digit toughness headass
sturdy dagger
psyker should be lore accurate
olive ember
All they do in games is die
royal falcon
if psyker perils they should become a daemonhost or spawn a chaos spawn
trust me bro
thin finch
Psyker is too weak, I think on top of clearing horde, best CC ,goold elite dispatch we should also one shot boss
sturdy dagger
undone oriole
sturdy dagger
the what
bleak tulip
gun
olive ember
Vraks 3 headhunter autogun
sturdy dagger
ew
strong gulch
What's Brittleness? Can't find an in game glossary
It's teamwise rending. It's best for premades so the team can really take advantage of it because it doesn't last long.
sturdy dagger
get out
sturdy dagger
optimal trolling
steel flame
Laspistol go brrrrrrrrrr
bleak tulip
or just shoot the fucker with your staff, you aint topping the charts unless your team is potato but youre doing stuff
undone oriole
If u are including guns for best monstrosity options on psyker its actually viiiD lasgun with infernus
royal falcon
why the FUCK does brain burst not give increased damage from all sources anymore
undone oriole
Any infernus is nuts against monstrosity
steel flame
I can outgun vets and ogryns in boss damage with scrier inferno laspistol
olive ember
undone oriole
But it kinda blows until you have a great roll on a recon lasgun ngl
sturdy dagger
heresy
steel flame
But it kinda blows until you have a great roll on a recon lasgun ngl
Just use laspistol
sturdy dagger
I cook the monstrosities with funny flamethrower staff
olive ember
I doubt the vld recon outdamages 1k crit headshot vraks but clip n prove me wrong and I will sing the praises of recon las
undone oriole
Nerd
undone oriole
Not at home rn but maybe i will
frank moat
I make exception for revolver psyker only
undone oriole
even if its good using guns on psyker is just
I mean with assail now i still feel like a real psyker when using gun
royal falcon
using guns on psyker feels like it just defeats the purpose of psyker
steel flame
People need to stop sleeping on laspistol I'm telling ya. It even has a force push, what more do you people want
slate sun
you're the reason we get guns from Melk - please leave
undone oriole
olive ember
People need to stop sleeping on laspistol I'm telling ya. It even has a force pu...
Why laspistol when recon las
My vet uses a funny vld recon it’s great
Zero aiming
All bullethose
steel flame
Laspistol superiority
olive ember
Never
frank moat
Using any non-Force Weapon also feels antithetical to Psyker but some wrong people still do it
undone oriole
Las hose is funniest shit ever
olive ember
Eh dueling sword is psyker exclusive
steel flame
I don't see a funny force push on that little recon of yours
olive ember
And it finally has a reason to be brought
royal falcon
to be a pirate
undone oriole
It has flashlight :P
slate sun
with a staff you have a gun like this:
======================================================================>>
and a laspistol is just:
==o
the staff is clearly superior
steel flame
Seeing is for losers
olive ember
I don't see a funny force push on that little recon of yours
It’s got a flashlight which is more useful
frank moat
Just use weapon mod 4heads
limber heath
very useful for waking up DH
olive ember
I can turn it on and off
near wyvern
Don't need to see what is dead
royal falcon
It’s got a flashlight which is more useful
weapon customization:
royal falcon
listen
steel flame
Don't need to see what is dead
Exactly
olive ember
As the devs intended
undone oriole
Wtf u mean weapon mod
royal falcon
I’ll be damned if I have to run a precision weapon with those shitass vanilla iron sights
royal falcon
Wtf u mean weapon mod
weapon modification is a mod that lets you change the look of your weapons
undone oriole
How strange
royal falcon
and put sights on them n shit
steel flame
You can put laser sights on shit now with it
torpid void
harsh urchin
Sadly I only quickplay auric 5s
I wish I was a malice gamer tho
Seems much more fun
olive ember
Malice is rly ez
It’s fun
Imagine a world where you just run the most unoptimal shit
And you still think you are contributing
Malice is truly a paradise
lime creek
if im running deflector should I run that perk that transfers stanima blocks to peril?
olive ember
Ideally yes
Psykers have rly bad base stamina cap (like 3) so if you intend to block any amount of bullets yes
lime creek
gotcha
teal needle
Really wish that perk wasn't on the disrupt destiny line
undone oriole
if im running deflector should I run that perk that transfers stanima blocks to ...
I run that whenever i can cuz its also great for infitely aggroing monstros for your team
Even with non deflector weapon
idle bay
Finnaly completed last Defense Penance 12 dodges in row. For last year or so i thought that this penance is bugged
undone oriole
Really wish that perk wasn't on the disrupt destiny line
Eh i usually have enough perk points left over after making a psyker build to grab it
Its only really vet i ever wish i had more
grand raven
Is dis Deimos any good?
undone oriole
No id sell
grand raven
pog
undone oriole
grand raven
traded it for a Mk I Devil's Sword instead
ornate hamlet
Do we know when the next Darktide patch might come? With changes, nerfs, etc.
grand raven
At least you'll get crowd clearing now
idk that's what this is for
silver stump
head popper literally the worst way to go with
grand raven
yes
idle bay
The moment came - i let go all my health curios now it's x2 Toughness and +3 STamina
emprah protects!
analog agate
Do we know when the next Darktide patch might come? With changes, nerfs, etc.
Wouldn’t be surprised if we got a message this Thursday and a patch coming in the next few weeks
hearty sedge
I always take a wound curio because I detest the single wound vision.
And sometimes you know, your head just sort of explodes.
silver stump
Literally before this crippled dude charges the head popping charge, the team mates kill the whole room....
thin finch
Literally before this crippled dude charges the head popping charge, the team ma...
it's okay with EP 
silver stump
it's okay with EP <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
EP ?
thin finch
Empowered Psionics
olive ember
I always take a wound curio because I detest the single wound vision.
Simply don’t get downed
dim parrot
Empowered Psionics
ectoplasm
hearty sedge
Just git good, yes. However I am eternally shit at peril management
royal falcon
just
uh
royal falcon
stop spamming things that cause peril
silver stump
the +50% charge rate and no peril generated is great
Hopefully I can respec into that then
dim parrot
lmao
thin finch
Hopefully I can respec into that then
respec is free so yeah
hearty sedge
stop spamming things that cause peril
But I love my baby.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1163366648250634260/image.png
It wants to be spammed.
silver stump
respec is free so yeah
I mean I don't have enough skill points yet
thin finch
I mean I don't have enough skill points yet
true
but in auric maelstrom the brain burst allow me to safely dispatch elite and with EP to do it quite fast
hearty sedge
I feel like BB just needs to channel like 20% faster baseline to be anything useful outside of flamer staff builds.
frail geyser
Just git good, yes. However I am eternally shit at peril management
Do you still have vent bound to 'R'
hearty sedge
Yes. However sometimes I press R, then don't press R enough. I ride the lightning, like an idiot.
hearty sedge
80% peril gives maximum buffs, so I try to feather around 80
frail geyser
Rebind that shit
hearty sedge
But you know how it is, sometimes you really just need that extra shot.
limber heath
Do you still have vent bound to 'R'
is there a problem with vent bound to R?
frail geyser
What keys do you move with
spice veldt
rightwards movement is limited so I have it changed to [V]
olive ember
Simply have more flexibility in your fingers
dawn wolf
Rebind that shit
Not a bad idea, M4 binding incoming
frail geyser
Trying to move/dodge and vent with those default keys is bad for your hands
dawn wolf
Imagine having spaghetti fingers
spice veldt
my hand rests in a position where I can't do that
olive ember
Space for dodge r for quell all default key binds
frail geyser
Im a human being im gonna rebind things to work better
olive ember
Ez gaming
Standardized through all classes
Ctrl to crouch I’m not a weirdo who uses shit like c or z tho
dawn wolf
On a related note, the steel series merc stealth is the greatest fps gaming keyboard of all time.
frail geyser
If you wanna be an animal and quell with default binds be my guest
polar peak
I agree!!
olive ember
If I have to move forward right while quelling it’s just ring finger on w middle finger on d and pointer on R
It’s simply natural
polar peak
I quell with control
olive ember
And not having a handicapped left hand
frail geyser
Naturally bad for your finger/wrist health
spice veldt
me having my dodge on shift is also why having quell on R is particularly bad for me
polar peak
What do you have it bind to?
frank moat
Just claw grip noobs
spice veldt
jump 🙂
reef nacelle
how this psyker do less dmg than a vet
thorn cedar
Just rebind everything to a racing wheel
lyric burrow
thats the real strat
lyric burrow
tbh if psyker isnt taking void/assail i can excuse doing less damage than a vet assuming they are running a good build
reef nacelle
he was running void/assail lol
olive ember
Pls give us like 2x base toughness and 2x base health
And give us special immunity once every minute
dawn wolf
90 toughness crew coming thru
reef nacelle
do you guys run ordo dockot curios for farming
olive ember
I don’t but some people do
reef nacelle
ogryn bleed build most broken in game
frank moat
good
harsh urchin
do you guys run ordo dockot curios for farming
it's weird cuz usually you'll have enough ordos
and be gated on plasteel
frank moat
ogryn should be strong
reef nacelle
it's weird cuz usually you'll have enough ordos
jsut for brunts
spice veldt
i'm usually gated on dockets to get good stat rolls
harsh urchin
hmm interesting lol
olive ember
i'm usually gated on dockets to get good stat rolls
HA POOR
EVERYONE LAUGH AT THE POOR
harsh urchin
i'm pretty good on both
spice veldt
EVERYONE LAUGH AT THE POOR
tsk tsk tsk
harsh urchin
poor ppl smh
spice veldt
i'm currently running an mk4 DS that has slightly too little cleave damage to one-shot groaners with a light headshot
olive ember
Imagine being POOR
spice veldt
is very sad
spice veldt
i forgor
harsh urchin
you should make info sheets
like ogryn
why do they have so many content creators
and we get
arco
spice veldt
WOW
harsh urchin
it's like when ur a kid
spice veldt
i usually just check the calculator most times if my game isn't open
harsh urchin
and the neighbor's kid gets a gameboy and playstation 2
thin finch
Does my sith lord drip checks out ?
harsh urchin
and u get a rock
spice veldt
🥺
thin finch
dawn wolf
Oblivion vampire
thin finch
Oblivion vampire
I will take this as an insult
acoustic seal
Better
foggy comet
guys can you maybe help me with something
i absolutely don't understand what they want from me with this penance Malleus Monstronum
ornate hamlet
Some penances seem to be bugged, trying to call the use of a blitz that doesn't exist anymore
ornate hamlet
Well, a blitz, a passive, whatever it might require that isn't present by name anymore
olive ember
No wonder his takes are so bad
foggy comet
i think i named the wrong penance then
they one im talking about requires 3 missions in heresy
olive ember
Toughness over health 🤢
foggy comet
where i don't get melee hit by an elite or smth like that
it's for the pants cosmetic
ornate hamlet
Arco on his way to youtube to post the LITERALLY MELTS build with combat knife and bleed blessings
Sedition guaranteed
God I love content creators
fresh reef
second one in nearly 800 hours 
ornate hamlet
spice veldt
Arco on his way to youtube to post the LITERALLY MELTS build with combat knife a...
what is this slander
ornate hamlet
I am but making a jestery of creators of content 
steel flame
what is this slander
wow arco, i thought you were better than that
frank moat
where i don't get melee hit by an elite or smth like that
Keep Your Distance: complete 3 Heresy missions without getting hit in melee by an elite?
foggy comet
Keep Your Distance: complete 3 Heresy missions without getting hit in melee by a...
yeah that's the one
frank moat
Basically just play 3 missions without getting slapped by a crusher, mauler or rager
olive ember
bleed knife enjoyers truly are the most oppressed in society
He admits it
thorny oyster
Yeah I still need that Malleus Monstratum penance too
olive ember
Arcotash is a bleed knifer
steel flame
no hes a knife bleeder
frank moat
Just keep your distance if you see them, ping and let the rest of the team deal with them
spice veldt
bonk
steel flame
never see it comin till its too late
normal radish
Emperor blessed me with this on my Psyker, wondering what perks I should use
reef nacelle
damn decap on that is crazy
zinc phoenix
second one in nearly 800 hours <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
Check how much it increases your actual toughness on psyker. I suspect 0-1 😂
ebon jolt
What are everyone’s preferred curio perks? I’m a sucker for 4% CDR.
spice veldt
+toughness, +gunner res, and the 3rd perk is whatever I happen to be feeling like
usually HP or sniper res if I'm not consuming crack cocaine, and sprint efficiency if I am
brazen magnet
Im partial to stam regen, block reduction, +toughness regen or +assist speed
fresh reef
play Assail or Smite
snipers fucking everywhere
cave and switch back to ol reliable
not a damn sniper in sight
why
still hearth
zinc phoenix
What are everyone’s preferred curio perks? I’m a sucker for 4% CDR.
For psyker health as the primary, gunner res and toughness recovery for the secondaries
olive ember
+toughness, +gunner res, and the 3rd perk is whatever I happen to be feeling lik...
+toughness is truly a content creator take
zinc phoenix
HP beats total toughness imo, twice as much and saves me so often from fuckups
spice veldt
+toughness is truly a content creator take
I'll slurp your derpy
ebon jolt
Is toughness regen good? Psyker has so many solid toughness regen talents it seems like a waste.
harsh urchin
he's turning into josho
golden frigate
that'd be NSFW
spice veldt
HP beats total toughness imo, twice as much and saves me so often from fuckups
toughness on the side perks is fairly neat
spice veldt
Is toughness regen good? Psyker has so many solid toughness regen talents it see...
I'd say no cuz Psyker peepee poopoos toughness
and if you go for +toughness, toughness Regen is even more useless
olive ember
Psyker needs health
zinc phoenix
I’m pretty sure toughness recovery speeds things along because I did notice a difference but 🤷♀️
spice veldt
health as the main perk and toughness as a side seems like a good base for starters
zinc phoenix
Gunners resist >>> toughness for the secondary
Like, not getting absolutely clowned by gunners because you have 3x 20 reduction is very nice
olive ember
Sniper res so I can ignore snipers
zinc phoenix
I did that on my zealot after getting doggied by three snipers simultaneously
My 🧂 was elevated
spice veldt
snipers truly change a person (and their curios)
zinc phoenix
We live in a snipeciety
spice veldt
I simply accept my death as a sniper crumples my 165 HP body
paper loom
am i missing something if you use Scyers gaze with a gun and dueling sword how are you supposed to quell?
paper loom
so you have to use venting shriek?
paper loom
oh sorry so switch to assail and quell
olive ember
I simply accept my death as a sniper crumples my 165 HP body
165 hp smh
spice veldt
just be careful with assail when using scrier's
paper loom
seems a bit of a pain to manage that:] ty tho
olive ember
Or maybe that’s just my 210+ hp
spice veldt
yeah I'm not much a fan of scrier's
I think snipers do the same amount of damage? haven't rechecked the numbers
harsh urchin
Scrier downtime is too high lol
Even with full investment you can only get it around 35-40% uptime at best
spice veldt
yeah esp when the CD only starts after ending it
unique mist
really? i found i had it every time i needed it
spice veldt
since it's not like pre-patch vet's ult having no downside
unique mist
plus its effects linger for 10s after ending
so its cooldown is basically 10s shorter
paper loom
sorry to ask so many questions, so the effect ends at 100% so it keep sgoing until you blow up essentially?
unique mist
you dont blow up
paper loom
ahh
spice veldt
though that's ultimately quite short, and I'm primarily interested in the crit chance from scrier's
unique mist
you are allowed to reach 100 peril and survive as long as you don't cast a peril costing ability while at 100 peril
paper loom
so if i hit 100% nothing happens
spice veldt
and you only get the stacking bonus after the ult ends
olive ember
You do blow up if it hits 100 and you try to use a warp ability
paper loom
ok thats actually pretty cool then
frank moat
Curio damage resistance vs enemy stacks weirdly right? Like they aren’t just additive?
olive ember
But scrier alone won’t blow you up
spice veldt
so it ends up being an ult with a very mediocre effect and too much downtime
spice veldt
Curio damage resistance vs enemy stacks weirdly right? Like they aren’t just add...
ye multiplicative
unique mist
multiplicitave stacking my beloved
paper loom
i use the shield but im a bit bored of it
spice veldt
3x gunner res is 1 - (1 - 0.2)^3=48.8% DR
frank moat
3x gunner res is 1 - (1 - 0.2)^3=48.8% DR
Ewww
unique mist
that doesn't make sense
olive ember
Ew fucking maths are scary
teal needle
Yeah I've found scriers distracting to optimize uptime for and discombobulating to have your damage and heat swinging so hard.
spice veldt
it makes sense so that reductive effects don't become too whacky
spice veldt
Ew fucking maths are scary
slurp
spice veldt
it's a reductive effect
ionic frost
.8^3
unique mist
that is really so stupid
ionic frost
there's dimishing returns in almost everything
why not make every +power boost multiplicative too so you can do 5x damage?
frank moat
Actually wait I’d never considered whether the other curio perks are diminishing
teal needle
Iirc the effective hp you have against gunners goes up proportionally with each stack. It's just if it did it additively you would very quickly get to the point where gunners turned into a light tickling breeze
frank moat
Is 4% cooldown x3 still 12%?
spice veldt
why not make every +power boost multiplicative too so you can do 5x damage?
would truly be a tragedy if there were multiplicative calculations with damage and power (o god panik)
unique mist
well darktide is generally kinda stingy with its stacking effects from what i've seen so far at least
olive ember
quickly @spice veldt what are the opportunity cost of taking toughness curios
ripe hatch
Only started playing the game today, just finished a mission, and I swear a reward or something popped up at the end, and it looked like a staff...But I don't have a staff...do other classes have staffs?
Or, did I just unlock the capacity to find that staff?
I'm just level 5
spice veldt
idk the opportunity cost of not getting two-shot by bursters and snipers
olive ember
That’s not an opportunity cost
Fucking Econ major doesn’t even know what he’s talking about
spice veldt
Only started playing the game today, just finished a mission, and I swear a rewa...
the end-screen shows the weapons that you've unlocked for drops and purchase yeah
ionic frost
Is 4% cooldown x3 still 12%?
yes...but take this math for instance: +5% HP bumps you from 200 to 210, a total increse of 5% from 200...but another +5% HP bonus takes you from 210 to 220, an increase of 4.76% from 210.
teal needle
What's the difference between 100 toughness and 5,000,000 toughness against a flamer or bombardier 
spice veldt
pro Psyker using quietitude to walk through bomber flames unharmed
teal needle
Mind= unparalelled
spice veldt
tru, sibling
ionic frost
If Sniper damage reduction was additive instead of multiplicative...my Ogryn could probably take 30 shots before dying.
Maybe more
ionic frost
And we'd have to also demand that all Toughness DR be additive too! Vets Immune to Toughness Damage FTW!
Difficulty 6 and 7 coming when?
spice veldt
i need >100% toughness DR as part of my crack addiction
ionic frost
100% Health DR.
spice veldt
TRRUUJUUEEEE
pseudo oar
any tips to get cliffhanger?
frank moat
surge force staff sucks
I wish it didn’t generate so much peril
torn horizon
i wish it would hit more than one enemy or do more damage
nimble adder
Yo question about deflector is it a rank 3 blessing or rank 4 blessing?
spice veldt
Yo question about deflector is it a rank 3 blessing or rank 4 blessing?
exists as all four tiers
so there's t1/t2/t3/t4 deflector
nimble adder
exists as all four tiers
Well then why is my luck so shit getting it lol
spice veldt
i killed 3 men for my deflector blessing
frank moat
any tips to get cliffhanger?
I like Vigil Station Oblivium espionage, on the last hack point you’re defending two bridges that get rushed by poxwalkers. Use Venting Shriek and/or force-sword push-block and go bowling
spice veldt
and as a side note, the Block Efficiency given by Deflector only applies to ranged attacks and not including melee attacks
frank moat
What the heck
olive ember
surge force staff sucks
TRUE
nimble adder
I just wanna be able to deflect bullets 
fresh reef
yippee, level 300
frank moat
I just wanna be able to deflect bullets <:ColtYes:456631805739794449>
I mean the difference between T3 and T4 is negligible
27.5% vs 30%
spice veldt
seems like they couldn't get any tier of deflector at all (rip + L + ratio )
nimble adder
I mean the difference between T3 and T4 is negligible
I just wanna be able to deflect bullets
frank moat
Oh rip
spice veldt
it's especially rough on the force swords because they have a massive blessing pool
nimble adder
Couldn’t care about the math behind the deflector blessing
Just wanna deflect bullets
fresh reef
my suggestion to make blessing farming easier
foggy comet
so for ( Keep Your Distance ) if i block the hit it doesn't count ?
nimble adder
I’m definitely a simple man and this is what I think when seeing deflector blessing
olive ember
my suggestion to make blessing farming easier
literally trolling
only t1 blessings kekw
hollow current
cant get higher tier blessings till you get the lower tier ones.
spice veldt
this is why we obsessively earn the t1 blessings in our inventory
frank moat
so for ( Keep Your Distance ) if i block the hit it doesn't count ?
I think it would be fine for like, the human size gunners? But I wouldn’t risk tryna block a mauler or crusher
Think they might just go through your guard
dusky bear
this counts as a field goal right?
edgy urchin
yippee, level 300
Is that the True Level mod?
spice veldt
fortunately, this is just a case of a bad description and not bad game design
you'll deal more damage
another thing about the description is that the damage bonus is from +10% to 20%, not from 0% to 20%
so you'll always have +10% damage, even at 0% peril
rose vault
Thank you ❤️
atomic zephyr
cant get higher tier blessings till you get the lower tier ones. <:KEKW_ogryn:10...
No way. Is that true?
hollow current
it was a joke if Melk had the option to gamble for blessings.
upper solar
WARNING FOR PSYKERS USING FORCE SWORDS:
The perk that lets you build peril instead of using stamina when blocking ALSO uses peril when shoving. It also doesnt have the same restriction that blocking does, where it only builds peril while below critical. Since the shove for force swords is 2-part, you can shove at critical peril, which will jump you up to 100, and then instantly blow yourself up if you follow up the shove
west smelt
sleek remnant
upper solar
Just lost a game with some friends that would have been an amazing clutch but my psyker exploded while saving a buddy from a horde of pox walkers.
spice veldt
WARNING FOR PSYKERS USING FORCE SWORDS:
The perk that lets you build peril inste...
pushes always cost stamina, even with Kinetic Deflection
and push-attacks always cost peril
push-attacks don't consume peril if you don't hit an enemy with it, which is where the confusion arises
they only generate peril when you hit an enemy with it
upper solar
You’re certain? It looked like my initial shoves were using peril too
spice veldt
i am very certain
pseudo oar
I like Vigil Station Oblivium espionage, on the last hack point you’re defending...
thank you
upper solar
Alright.
Sucks that that run flopped, but now I know
spice veldt
you usually don't want to use the push-attack anyways except against ragers/crushers and the like
since it's single-target only
i'm not much a fan of it esp as somebody who ran trauma with force swords
strong gulch
It is easy to accidently do a push attack instead of a push on force swords. So yeah, at high peril that can accidently blow you up; BUT it is less so the case when you know that mechanic is there and how it works.
spice veldt
i wish it just costed peril all the time instead of being special-cased to only generate peril when you hit an enemy
so that it's not confusing to people
because it certainly confused the hell out of me when I was dicking around in the meatgrinder
strong gulch
Me too. I would thoroughly befuddled.
frank moat
Why can’t I get Sefoni’s cool tattoos
small tulip
what's the dump stat for deimos?
hollow current
warp res mainly. mobility too.
small tulip
shoot, till not a bad roll
crude cape
what does a mk 4 dueling sword need to 1 shot a mutant with no stacks or anything?
bc i have 2-3 pretty good ones and they all come close but dont consistantly 1 shot
hollow current
maniac would probably do it. maybe specialists as well is enough
spice veldt
a lot of crack cocaine
dense bramble
my suggestion to make blessing farming easier
Thats actually a good idea
jolly cedar
This axe any good?
dense bramble
what's the dump stat for deimos?
I see warp res as dump stat but that should honestly be fine. what youre missing in damage stats will be made up for by slaughterer.
pseudo oar
do the force swords have the same push attack? or are some better than others?
viscid matrix
They do, it does no damage but does stagger/knock down enemies depending on how big they are
They seem to be the same
left pivot
Fairly fresh to psyker. Any interesting force staff discourse?
harsh urchin
Not really.
voidstrike is pretty overtuned right now so you can use that if you want
left pivot
Sadge
umbral jetty
3 stack kicked me for using purgatus instead of assail
modern island
umbral jetty
they are going to wipe regardless if they rely on stupid shit
twilit carbon
i need some help understanding how i can take my preferred playstyle, and apply it to psyker while also contributing in some way.
I love support gameplay. Mained Priest back in WoW, in DnD I'm always the cleric, druid, or battlefield control wizard.
I enjoy enabling others and helping them succeed.
I've never cared much for damage. If I can control the flow of combat, that's all the better.
How do I apply that to Psyker while making sure I don't go down as much?
Minor rant, I'm beginning to think that people assume lightning means kills when lightning actually means, "here, attack this".
How do I help people understand what I bring to the missions so that they can utilize my CC better?
dense bramble
i need some help understanding how i can take my preferred playstyle, and apply ...
Communication. If you tell your team youre not the kill everything psyker they wont assume youre a meta slave and will help you.
twilit carbon
noted
spice oar
siblings ive got all the penances and great ass weapons now what do i do
like i want a goal
dense bramble
like i want a goal
carry level 10s through heresy
wanton sandal
i need some help understanding how i can take my preferred playstyle, and apply ...
even if they don't immediately kill your CC, it takes pressure off of them to kill the active enemies. 8 times outta 10 someone will take care of your stunned enemies tho
dense bramble
That shits harder than damn
dense bramble
is that a cry for help or?
No just join heresy quickplay and try to carry
wanton sandal
and take the extra shields path and spam down shields whenever you encounter ranged. it has a pretty quick CD especially since you save up shields
VERY useful skill as a psyker
dim parrot
i need some help understanding how i can take my preferred playstyle, and apply ...
thanks 4 supporting
twilit carbon
i do try lol 😭
spice oar
i need some help understanding how i can take my preferred playstyle, and apply ...
after smiting a group, try to either ping the biggest bad you can see in the group, or if its a horde of pox, hold down mouse 3 and just use the "enemy here"
try to play like a witch hunter in v2
dawn wolf
You'd probably like trauma staff since it lets you knock enemies around and feels more CC oriented while void strike feels more DMG focused.
spice oar
try to play like a witch hunter in v2
pinging enemies as you debuff and stunlock them
wanton sandal
You'd probably like trauma staff since it lets you knock enemies around and feel...
it also has a rending blessing
spice oar
oh and grab the shield
twilit carbon
telekinetic shield? turn it into a bubble right?
aoe portable shield sounds too good o.o
wanton sandal
nah, grab the other side of the shield tree
it stuns specials and elites that walk through it and lets you save up like 3 of them
spice oar
telekinetic shield? turn it into a bubble right?
bubble if you want enemy fire to be blocked and not an issue, if you want to be more tactical and block off door ways from specials and elites, stunning them in the process, try the dual shields
wanton sandal
tho dome can be useful if you prefer that
dawn wolf
Bubble for toughness Regen, walls for special stun, both block bullets for a short health span
twilit carbon
noted
spice oar
if that isnt your favor, try using the venting screech as a quick "get the fuck off of them" button
queen fog
only the wall can block sniper fire, bubble gets pierced
neat summit
i need some help understanding how i can take my preferred playstyle, and apply ...
The #1 thing you can do is to always mark specials.
queen fog
saw too many pub psykers get downed cuz the bubble wasnt enough for the sniper
spice veldt
bubble can block snipers but it's just inconsistent
queen fog
oh so its just bugged, cool
that means when it gets fixed both can say fuk u to snipers
spice oar
also btw is our best sniper weapon the headhunter or the standard kantreal las rifle?
viscid matrix
Kantreal XII and Vraks III are both good
wanton sandal
also btw is our best sniper weapon the headhunter or the standard kantreal las r...
both are pretty goated but voidstrike
dense bramble
Void
spice oar
voidstrike can eat my jorts im bored
wanton sandal
charged warpball = dead heretic
spice veldt
devil claw is the best sniper
spice oar
must embrace gunker
viscid matrix
charged warpball = dead heretic
dead every non monstrocity
spice veldt
parry the sniper's kick and one-shot him
spice oar
but ill try gunker on shield instead of gaze
twilit carbon
ty for the tips guys. much appreciated
spice veldt
what no ICD does to a mf
spice oar
surge is good in balance but omg i wish it had the same pizazz that the smite gets with the visual explosions and shit
atleast its fun to see them just limp over after they die
viscid matrix
kinda wish Surge would hit weakspots instead of just bodyshot
zinc phoenix
ty for the tips guys. much appreciated
Zealot is a better fit for support relic zealot is much heal much save
viscid matrix
Zealot is a better fit for support relic zealot is much heal much save
dome blocks BoN vomit, so he cant put you in his belly to hug you
spice veldt
noooooooooo
wanton sandal
waw psykers
freethinker psykers
crisp yacht
any gunkers out there? is this worth for gunking around?
royal falcon
waw psykers
I remember my X-X-2-X-X-X build
spice veldt
psykinetic's aura 😔
royal falcon
dawg what the hell is this
spice veldt
dawg what the hell is this
one of fatshark's top 10 descriptions
wanton sandal
dawg what the hell is this
goofy
crisp yacht
well id change that blessing lol
royal falcon
worst blessing ever ⁉️
crisp yacht
when im assailing 90% of the time its kind worf tho
spice veldt
it's -66% reduced ammo every 4 seconds, regardless of whether you've shot or not during that period (still not good)
spice oar
any gunkers out there? is this worth for gunking around?
I'm rlly not sure, stat wise it's perfect it's just the blessings and perks are confusing me
crisp yacht
yeah id need to change sprint and the ammo blessing to something useful. but idk guns too well
i have a decent las pistol
feral verge
dumdum, infernus, crit chance
wanton sandal
yeah id need to change sprint and the ammo blessing to something useful. but idk...
infernus and dumdum yea
wanton sandal
crits on the laspistol are pretty goodo
crisp yacht
whats dum dum?
empty swan
is this sword good for psyker ?
and is this combat blade good ? I dont think psykers use it but... I dont even know if items can be shared between operators?
crisp yacht
is this sword good for psyker ?
still leveling? its decent horde clear weapon
empty swan
still leveling? its decent horde clear weapon
ye leveling, but I only have 2300points and Im wondering if I should wait to get a voidstaff :S
crisp yacht
yeah save your points until you hit 30. base item rating is 380
items cant be shared but blessings can be after you surrender it to hadron
elder rain
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subtle flame
does smite cause "stun"?
crisp yacht
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base rating kinda low but might be worth grabbing if you dont have the shred 4 blessing
elder rain
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nimble adder
Don’t you guys love it when teammates don’t communicate
barren arch
I come to you with a question of decently high importance
what really is the difference between all the force swords?
empty swan
how do I know if a weapon is worth upgrading?
crisp yacht
I come to you with a question of decently high importance
what really is the dif...
different attack patterns and specials do diff things
empty swan
like I know voidstaff is powerfull but how do I know which stats and at what % should I think about upgrading it
barren arch
how do I know if a weapon is worth upgrading?
depends on the weapon, as each weapon has different stats they want
crisp yacht
yeah thats a good staff
keen slate
blessings way more important
barren arch
meh perks are fine
empty swan
I'm playing with this and i like it
ill keep this as a reference also it seens transfer peril is a must
thanks
empty swan
i dont know im reading a post on reddit that says transfer peril is a must on voidstrike
barren arch
the way it's worded, it makes me think you get at least 5% crit no matter what too lol
keen slate
It might be true tho
barren arch
isn't Transfer Peril a fsword blessing though?
long wharf
I come to you with a question of decently high importance
what really is the dif...
nobody should use Obscurus any more, Illisi is great for horde clear, Deimos is superior single target damage
long wharf
isn't Transfer Peril a fsword blessing though?
no
crisp yacht
i dont know im reading a post on reddit that says transfer peril is a must on vo...
maybe outdated reddit thread. transfer peril blessing is okayish but not meta anymore
wanton sandal
transfer peril enjoyers rise up
barren arch
nobody should use Obscurus any more, Illisi is great for horde clear, Deimos is ...
been using Deimos ever since before the changes, glad to hear it is still good lol
wanton sandal
esp with the near unlimited cleave on voidballs now
empty swan
so flurry and naxus?
keen slate
Why use force sword when you have Maccabian Mk 4
long wharf
there is a blessing to quell peril on repeated weakspot hit, but it's not called Transfer Peril, I think
umbral jetty
nexus and surge are ideal
long wharf
and if single target is your goal, Mk4 dueling sword is superior now
wanton sandal
nobody should use Obscurus any more, Illisi is great for horde clear, Deimos is ...
give obscurus the moveset of mk4 dclaw and i'll use it
it feels super out of place as it is now
empty swan
7months old is the post and it says this Transfer Peril will allow you to just keep shooting. As long as there are heads you won't need to quell or stop, maintaining 5 stacks of Warp Flurry turning you into a walking high shot frequency artillery piece! (And turning quell speed and warp resi into almost dump stats on your staff, making life easier for the Omnissiah)
wanton sandal
idk how to fix it
long wharf
shame about penetration, though
umbral jetty
blocking is for vermintide
wanton sandal
idk bout carapace
long wharf
I also wouldn't pick carapace
molten schooner
Does continuous fire do anything on the voidstrike? lol
crisp yacht
7months old is the post and it says this Transfer Peril will allow you to just k...
yeah that was true back before patch but with new talents we have plenty of ways to quell peril without the blessing
wanton sandal
Does continuous fire do anything on the voidstrike? lol
wuh...
sustained fire?
pretty sure
molten schooner
That, yeah. The one that gives you more damage at third and fourth volley
It doesn't sound good to me in the staff but I could be wrong
keen slate
If you wish to be best at killing wouldn't it made you resistant to Slaanesh because if you loose it means you're not best at killing?🤔
long wharf
there are two meta setups for Void right now
for damage, you want Warp Nexus and Surge
for sustained usage at the cost of burst damage, Warp Nexus and Warp Flurry
rose dagger
Quell on weakpt hit better with flurry imo
lapis bay
Are there any melee focused builds rn?
long wharf
er Warp Flurry and Transfer Peril
wanton sandal
Are there any melee focused builds rn?
run illisi and melt hordes i guess?
long wharf
sorry, was thinking of Surge staff after typing Surge
wanton sandal
idk bout specifically melee focus but you'd want to take deflector and that one peril block talent
psyker is relatively weak at dealing in melee, either you focus on horde clear or on single target
bright mica
psyker is relatively weak at dealing in melee, either you focus on horde clear o...
lol
absolutely not true
i consistently top kills and damage with a saber + gun psyker albeit it's defo not for everyone
wanton sandal
if ur not even harnessing all the warp weapons are u even a psyker tbh...
bright mica
too busy killing the whole horde and every elite with my saber ngl
i have a crit oriented headhunter for ranged special killing and huge boss DPS if I can't get close
that said a void staff would likely serve me better
flat shadow
transfer peril enjoyers rise up
Spam left click at horde heads
wanton sandal
that said a void staff would likely serve me better
true but its too op rn
sleeper gameplay
flat shadow
i love surge staff
bright mica
I recommend Mk IV dueling sword with uncanny + rampage on a melee build
flat shadow
send a full horde flying
flat shadow
though i might go back to obscurus
i like the special
and better horde clearing
the duelling sword special is puzzling
bright mica
your insane crit chance will make you damn near immune to ranged in melee
bright mica
the duelling sword special is puzzling
insta staggers, can even put mutant out of charge
its billhook special from VT2
use it to interrupt ragers, crushers, mutants, even trappers in melee
clear heath
smh just kill the mutants in one hit
rose dagger
Scriers gaze only feels usable with guns
bright mica
with this build lmao
hollow maple
What am I looking for in a revolver, which modifiers?
long wharf
no need to use dueling sword special
bright mica
Scriers gaze only feels usable with guns
not true, insane movement speed makes it go insane
long wharf
just heavy attack until the thing is dead
bright mica
that said i do use dueling sword + crit DPS HH
and honestly it goes insanely hard
smite because fuck assail
it's useful for locking down rooms too
rose dagger
Brain burst cause they both cringe
long wharf
you're cringe for using the word "cringe"
bright mica
I dont need BB cus HH autogun
wide galleon
you're cringe for using the word "cringe"
frfr no cap
bright mica
ofc grab this and CDR aura
you can have gaze up what feels like damn near permamently sometimes
one thing I find sad though
Warp Siphon does not seem to work on Gaze
long wharf
no, you never get SG up anywhere near permanently
bright mica
might be glitched but it does not seem to refund your ability
that or maybe its just so miniscule I cant seem to notice it?
no that cant be true since it can stack up to 45% charges
rose dagger
It completely refunds shield and then some, so who knows
next pier
I'm playing with this and i like it
you like it? its a literal god roll. you better like it
bright mica
does anyone know if the -5% peril generation nodes affect how long you can stay in gaze?
keen slate
Game, please
I don't want to dodge
I want to kill enemies fast enough for them not being able to land a hit
ebon jolt
might be glitched but it does not seem to refund your ability
It's been acknowledged as a bug.
bright mica
It's been acknowledged as a bug.
rip but cant wait for it to get fixed
it'll make this playstyle even more nuts
also forgot but yeah this makes you so incredibly tanky its not even funny
keen slate
also forgot but yeah this makes you so incredibly tanky its not even funny
You should try this
bright mica
especially when gunning down groups of gunners, you can often outheal entire squadrons firing at you its genuinely nuts
bright mica
You should try this
ik i have swapped to it since left passive tree doesnt work atm
its good for face tanking bosses
altho with dueling swords dodge you rarely need to
also great for reviving
cloud heron
does anticipation (+50% dodge duration) interact with empthatic evasion (crits make you count as dodging ranged attacks)? or just actual dodges?
bright mica
hard to test that tbh
cloud heron
was hoping someone just found the answer written in a scroll or something
bright mica
I go middle tree for CDR and one with warp is too good to pass up imo
keen slate
Thoughts?
bright mica
Thoughts?
not a huge fan of riposte as what the game counts as a "successful dodge" is often very arbitrary, shred on the other hand is quite good on DS
spice oar
Scriers gaze only feels usable with guns
It's great with melee weapons and certain staffs with transfer peril
viscid matrix
swap riposte for Uncanny Strike, then swap Carapace for 25% carapace or unyielding
viscid matrix
Still better than this
probably not, since Finesse is a large damage increase when you crit
spice oar
Still better than this
Dodge build when
bright mica
does anyone know if the -5% peril generation nodes affect how long you can stay ...
^ still unsure abt this
ig imma test it
stopwatch time :P
viscid matrix
stopwatch time :P
you dont need a stopwatch, just look at your stacks of scriers buffwhen you hit 100%, see what stacks you have
random dawn
what blitz seems to be working most for you guys?
viscid matrix
what blitz seems to be working most for you guys?
depends on the build
all 3 are good for different things
spice oar
what blitz seems to be working most for you guys?
I actually don't know
They are all consistently good at what they do
bright mica
you dont need a stopwatch, just look at your stacks of scriers buffwhen you hit ...
15 with all peril %
14 without peril %
yup so it does
spice oar
Are you like looking for something in particular?
bright mica
what blitz seems to be working most for you guys?
you use the one that fills a gap in your build tbf
question is what weapons are you using really
random dawn
question is what weapons are you using really
fire staff mainly and force sword
bright mica
fire staff i'd go assail
it's pretty OP rn but even post nerf it's very good
as for ability I love running double stun shields, helps with providing cover against shooters and stunning hordes/specials so you can flame them safer
venting shriek works too
and bubble shield ofc, just saying my piece :P
blazing echo
fire staff mainly and force sword
If you can rustle up a half decent voidstrike it's pretty OP right now
bright mica
no shame in purgatus though, it's my fav staff
a tip if you didn't know, purgatus M1 has massive stagger
use it for stun locking crowds of elites
spice oar
Smite works pretty well with purg aswell, set em ablaze and then pin em down so they cant do fuck all
unreal dust
Game, please
Whoa. Slow down. Finesse is better than you think at first glance. As far as I know, its Weak Point -and- Critical Damage
keen slate
The problem is the dodge that
unreal dust
And I believe you can trigger this when dodging ranged attacks as well
unique mist
with the 50% dodge duration
does that increase dodge distance?
or just i-frame duration
unreal dust
I-frames
harsh urchin
can you confirm that emphathic evasion is triggering the blessings?
unique mist
ty
unreal dust
can you confirm that emphathic evasion is triggering the blessings?
I can try? Lemme see...
Honestly going to be hard resisting the urge to hit space bar, hahaha
unique mist
you have dodge on space?
kindred wyvern
auric histg
gun psyker fun :)
unique mist
i got it on shift
unreal dust
you have dodge on space?
Its the default. I'm curious if you use something else
spice oar
you have dodge on space?
... Ain't that the default?
unreal dust
Can you even dodge forward? I just pivot 90 and slide sideways
spice oar
just jumping when trying to dodge forward got annoying
Wait are you able to dodge forward by using shift instead?
unique mist
so changing it to shift means you sprint when trying to dodge forward and dodge every other direction, which gets me killed less
spice oar
Nvm then
unique mist
kek
keen slate
I hope soulblaze will get buffed
unique mist
yeah there are too many ways to apply an insignificant amount of soulblaze
keen slate
Kinda underwhelhming rn
unreal dust
I hope soulblaze will get buffed
?? Purgatus staff is still amazing
keen slate
This is shit
unique mist
i'm sure they're talking about every other way but purgatus staff
keen slate
Barely any damage
unreal dust
This is shit
That one is underwhelming. It was nicer as part of Wrack and Ruin
atomic zephyr
Even without these two talents
The time frame for the dodge to register and trigger riposte/precog is small. They just increase the window
keen slate
tbh it would be way batter if it was built-in in every psi attack kill
unique mist
and dont forget wildfire too
that's underwhelming too
like oh boy, 4 stacks of soulblaze. 29.33 dps
atomic zephyr
This is shit
Idk if it sucks. But i like killing and elite in a horde and it just softens the group for me
keen slate
IIRC soulblaze (from this passive) can barelly kill a poxwalker on it's own
unreal dust
like oh boy, 4 stacks of soulblaze. 29.33 dps
So here's where the math gets screwy...
Yes, its 4 stacks of Blaze.
... but its 4 stacks that lets you go over your Purgatus Staff cap
Which means you can go to 19 stacks, not 15
unreal dust
Void is strong right now. I don't blame you
harsh urchin
Equinox Mk IV Voidstrike Force Staff
Primary Finesse Modifier:
From 120% to 150%.
Secondary Base Damage (0%, 80% Damage Stat):
From 250, 400 to 425, 765.
Secondary Impact:
From 22.5 to 45.
Secondary armour Modifiers:
Flak: 75% to 100%.
Maniac: 60% to 100%.
Carapace: 75% to 100%.
Secondary Finesse Modifier (0%, 80% Damage Stat):
From 50% to 125%.
Secondary Cleave (0%, 80% Damage Stat):
From 3.5, 7.5 to 10, 10.
Direct Secondary Explosion Base Damage (0%, 80% Damage Stat):
From 25, 45 to 50, 66.
Direct Secondary Explosion Impact (0%, 80% Damage Stat):
From 25, 45 to 40, 72.
Secondary Explosion Base Damage (0%, 80% Damage Stat):
From 10, 18 to 25, 45.
Secondary Explosion Impact (0%, 80% Damage Stat):
From 8, 20.8 to 10, 18.
harsh urchin
so yeah. base damage pretty much doubled; finesse modifier 2.5x'd, armor damage increased by 50%, and cleave doubled
so it basically does 3x the damage it used to
keen slate
Well, i'm gonna enjoy lore accurate psyker as long as it lasts
I have a feeling he will be nerfed into the ground
tacit urchin
how it feels to voidstrike
gritty tree
which duelling sword is considered the best?
spice veldt
This is shit
it's one of the best talents on the tree
because it's just free
one node away from soulstealer, and you get it for any elite/special kill that you make
keen slate
I'm yet to see a psyker with brain burst
queen fog
ive seen like, 2 today at most
spice veldt
i saw a purg psyker with it
olive ember
I mean I run a purge build with BB
kindred wyvern
i roll with brain burst on my recon lasgun build
ebon jolt
I played BB psyker all yesterday w/ purg.
scarlet barn
Is there a good place to find builds
i want to use assail but i cant figure out anything good
spice veldt
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take the nodes in the screenshot and call it a day
bright mica
ah fuck . im addicted to gunsyker
spice veldt
that's basically what you only need for assail and you can go live your life on the other stuff
glossy bough
I'm yet to see a psyker with brain burst
Yeah it's just not great after the enemies had their hp buffed, and Assail dropped bonkers good
scarlet barn
ah fuck . im addicted to gunsyker
whats that?
bright mica
if you want a good staff to compliment assail, assail patches up surge and purgatus pretty well
bright mica
whats that?
just running guns on psyker, it's pretty damn viable now that scriers gaze is a thing
melting bosses in seconds
glossy bough
What's your pick for that? Recon IVd and vraks III headhunter seem strong
tiny swallow
sorry to sidetrack a lil but im wondering if this is good at all? I'm very stupid when it comes to gear and such so figured id ask if the best i had was even good in the 1st place
bright mica
What's your pick for that? Recon IVd and vraks III headhunter seem strong
running vraks, still trying to roll up a good Recon, other than that MkIV dueling sword is fantastic, but there's also an argument to be made for blazing spirit force swords
crisp yacht
sorry to sidetrack a lil but im wondering if this is good at all? I'm very stupi...
thats pretty good
bright mica
blazing spirit builds will likely be very decent once warp siphon gets patched
glossy bough
I can see that
tiny swallow
thats pretty good
poggers
bright mica
blazing spirit to cause this to proc a ton and potentially even stack up warp charges quickly while in scriers gaze extending its duration even more
bright mica
so with that in mind I am hunting for an illisi with blazing spirit and good stats :P
tiny swallow
obviously change sprint to something else like flak or maniac
when i get the resources, i went broke making it 
glossy bough
I've been loving recon IVd on veteran, but that's mostly due to vet rending talents solving its complete ineffectiveness against armor. Without that, vraks III seems like the play because it actually kills everything
scarlet barn
if you want a good staff to compliment assail, assail patches up surge and purga...
dont i want a more dirrect damage weapons?
bright mica
dont i want a more dirrect damage weapons?
assail has pretty pathetic horde clear outside of Malice
scarlet barn
Then whats it good for?
bright mica
killing shooters
glossy bough
With the palp lightning power existing, surge has moved off mass CC to basically good 1+1 target
bright mica
killing specials and most elites
scarlet barn
wont brainburst work better for that?
glossy bough
Assail is insanely fast at killing a ton of shooters and specials
bright mica
mhm
glossy bough
The secret sauce of psyker builds is really that you have that "third weapon" to make sure you can handle any enemy type
bright mica
assail compliments surge n purgatus very well, I wouldn't use it on most other staves as M1 staffshot is good enough for shooters if your aim isnt ass
for those surge would be good, or brainburst for anti crusher
glossy bough
So you can do Illisi for poxwalker hordes, Assail for shooters and specials, surge or void strike for big armor guys. And all your bases are covered
tiny swallow
mk4 dueling sword, surge staff, and assail have felt really damn good. Sword for carapce (haha heavy poke go brrrr), surge for single target, assail for hordes.
bright mica
you mentioned assail getting nerfed earlier I think? guess or insider knowledge?
hoping it gets nerfed because it's honestly quite OP rn
likely will be tbf
glossy bough
Brain burst struggles these days because if it isn't one-shotting it's really slow to kill. You can still hit thresholds for important oneshots with the right talents stacked and active, but why bother when you can meet those needs much more reliably with other builds
bright mica
BB needs a big buff
it does less damage than prepatch
because Fatshark did a math fucky wucky
it needs to two-shot Crushers on Damnation and then it'll be viable
glossy bough
Yeah, it was already sensitive around breakpoints before, then everything got just tough enough that it's on the wrong side of those breakpoints now
And why think or aim when I can spam click funky flying space knives
Which feed you crits to get more damage, toughness, and auto-dodge
unreal dust
Okay, So I did some testing with the two Dodge based Talents to see if I can trigger it to give me Precog+Riposte.
The crit-dodge does not trigger this
'normal' dodging can still trigger them vs Ranged, however.
Neither function against gunners who give zero shits
glossy bough
Interesting
unreal dust
Anticipation still functions per normal
zenith cosmos
anyone have the palpatine build ? link me i wanna shockyboi
unreal dust
anyone have the palpatine build ? link me i wanna shockyboi
Take Smite. Take Empowered Psionics. That's all you need
(Recommended you take OverPowering Souls for guaranteed charges. That's been my experience)
west prism
Do you guys recommend taking deflector on my deimos force sword?
unreal dust
Do you guys recommend taking deflector on my deimos force sword?
Its less useful if you take Shields as part of your normal build, but it can be nice every once in awhile
glossy bough
I crutch on deflector + kinetic deflection, but you can live without it
unreal dust
Having deflector can let you clutch save sometimes
west prism
Its less useful if you take Shields as part of your normal build, but it can be ...
what do you mean shields? like toughness?
glossy bough
I've just played with it so long now that I know if I take it off I'll try to block bullets still
unreal dust
what do you mean shields? like toughness?
west prism
ah ok
glossy bough
Yeah that one