#psyker-class

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molten schooner
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Good for trying it out and my first one 🙂

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Thanks mate

severe folio
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feels right

mighty fractal
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I'll admit, summoning pretty blue columns of warp fire would get me to use a Corsuscation staff in this game

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damn

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speaking of illisis

regal musk
mighty fractal
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I'd love that

lament sonnet
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good for the illisi ?

severe folio
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i think so

lapis kraken
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what melee yall prefer? force swords? crowd control? armor piercing?

feral verge
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Nope

severe folio
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i like force sword

mossy sundial
severe folio
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but i am expanding my melee variety

limber heath
grand viper
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Axe

severe folio
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right now im fiddling with the mk4 dueling sword

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next is the devil claw

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with its parry mechanic

limber heath
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dclaw is fun

severe folio
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woth investing, this gun ?

grand viper
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Mk2 combat axe has finesse

viscid matrix
limber heath
severe folio
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i see

viscid matrix
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Vraks III and Kantreal XII are the 2 guns you want

severe folio
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oh vark 3

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ok

tacit urchin
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burst headhunters are great at wasting ammo aint they

limber heath
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vraks*

viscid matrix
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the 3 pistols are also pretty good

severe folio
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l;ike this ?

viscid matrix
# severe folio

yep thats a pretty good one, just need Deadly Accurate and Headhunter blessings

tacit urchin
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Think we'll see different MK variants for the staves?

narrow crane
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not anytime soon

viscid matrix
tacit urchin
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Is there any precedent in 40k for cryokinesis

narrow crane
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I don't think we're seeing more than a balance patch before 2024

tacit urchin
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that's less than 2 months 🤷‍♂️

viscid matrix
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i doubt we will get a balance patch before 2024

tacit urchin
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time just keeps going faster

narrow crane
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yeah and then they go on holiday, which is fair, but I think 2023 has essentially been capped off with patch 13.

tacit urchin
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slightly more than 2 months even.

next heart
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what's the base crit chance of voidstrike

keen pawn
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anyone having issues with the scoreboard not showing bosses killed

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it just shows damage

narrow crane
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yeah it doesnt count boss kills ever

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it's bugged

zinc phoenix
primal plume
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Smite + Creeping Flames is pretty fun

primal plume
mighty fractal
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I think Psykers from Fenris can use bio-ice or something similar

primal plume
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Thats why frost accumulates at the edges of our screen when near a Demon Host

zinc phoenix
mighty fractal
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But it's probably either retconned or in an old old edition

zinc phoenix
mighty fractal
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WOLFPACK

zinc phoenix
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And ice wolf

mighty fractal
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when pyschic wolves, Fatshark

zinc phoenix
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WOLF WOLFINIUS OF RHE WOLFPACK

regal musk
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Space Wolf Rune Priests are a bit different to normal Psykers lol

zinc phoenix
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FIRST WOLF OF THE WOLF WOLVES

mighty fractal
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Oh is that a Space Wolf thing specifically

zinc phoenix
tacit urchin
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is a support force staff a terrible concept? buff the other players

narrow crane
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eh

narrow crane
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what would it do

mighty fractal
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iirc our current force shield/dome was datamined as being a staff

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last year or so

zinc phoenix
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The entire point of the game is to kill shit

mighty fractal
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Assail was also a staff I think

zinc phoenix
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You need ways to kill shit

mighty fractal
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or, at least, it was also datamined but not being attached to any psyker weapon in particular

narrow crane
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yeah I mean people complain about zealots buff being lame as shit

zinc phoenix
mighty fractal
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Chorus is busted

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People just don't use it because they have to channel it

cloud sequoia
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KEKW_ogryn revolver psyker is real

narrow crane
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it's good, but boring

zinc phoenix
mighty fractal
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At least, I don't see it much in Damnation+

zinc phoenix
toxic forge
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Worth or nah

grand viper
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How does cowboy psyker work

zinc phoenix
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Everything has to sit down and you heal everyone’s toughness and give them +100 toughness and a buttload of damage and DR

mighty fractal
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Stunlocking all specials and elites in range, stunlocking bosses, ledging bosses, giving everyone invuln and overshields, either a damage buff or toughness damage reduction buff

zinc phoenix
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It’s nuts

mighty fractal
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It's got a ton of utility

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Yeah

narrow crane
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support tools are only attractive if they still allow you to kill shit a little bit while using it. people would rather just kill more stuff

zinc phoenix
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Oh yeah making bosses BTFO is so gold

mighty fractal
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and you get to hear your old scottish man yell SCUNNER

tacit urchin
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I still second guess whether I can walk in fire when there's a zealot throwing their glorified (pun intended) molotovs

mighty fractal
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or young scottish woman

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I use both

tacit urchin
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everyone says its a different color but I just see fire

mighty fractal
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Zealot fire is a yellowish color and the flames are shorter

narrow crane
mighty fractal
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It does blend very well into bomber/flamethrower fire, though

narrow crane
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it's bricked

tacit urchin
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me with my oversaturated cartoony monitor settings

zinc phoenix
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I love the fire nade and I mix it up all the time 😂

mighty fractal
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it's probably also hard to see on certain maps

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like the desert maps

tacit urchin
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sometimes a bomber dies to it and it's just stacked fire

zinc phoenix
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It’s a great idea but I think they should change it

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TBH the big thing I’d love for them to add are BG3 style comboing from elemental fields

mighty fractal
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That's probably why they changed the zealot's nade from the fire nade seen in its trailer to the stun nade we got on launch

zinc phoenix
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So you can shoot thru a fire field and your bullets cause burning

mighty fractal
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Speaking of which

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it's funny how psyker can't infuse their guns with warp energy

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or use precog bullets, etc

zinc phoenix
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Las pistol

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Force push on it

mighty fractal
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probably too much design/dev time needed to make unique psyker guns

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Oh yeah at least the las pistol has that

zinc phoenix
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Still shit tho

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May as well be shooting mobs with a water pistol for all the good it does

cosmic sigil
keen pawn
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when is aquilas store cycling to the next crap

cosmic sigil
keen pawn
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reminds me of yesterday

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when everything was on fire

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and I quote "what is this, Divinity 2?"

limber heath
zinc phoenix
keen pawn
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been in games where 8 bosses showed up

limber heath
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ic, would the game not get confused during maelstroms with the weakened monstrosities

keen pawn
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those are still considered bosses

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even weakened

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I turned off the stat though, because it's definitely not working

steel flame
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oh the pain

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a scar i will carry with me forever more

severe folio
steel flame
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i sent ya my build

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let me know if it works for you

steel flame
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its kinda a hyper aggressive build to be sure

severe folio
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wait did you sent it

toxic forge
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I would just get it to grab the blessing

spice veldt
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you could do rampage memes since it currently gives 2x damage for whatever reason instead of 1.36x that you'd expect from the listed power

primal plume
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Does Creeping flames do more damage than Warp Rupture but over a long period?

steel flame
mossy sundial
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how do i get tier 4 blessings?

cyan notch
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be level 30 and get lucky

mossy sundial
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oh wait rolls are tied to level

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?

narrow crane
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for base stats yes

mossy sundial
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for blessings tho?

narrow crane
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blessings are tied to base stats, T4 blessings pop most often at 360+

wispy iris
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💀

narrow crane
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yes

wispy iris
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lol fuck me

narrow crane
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you can still roll T4 with lower stats, but 360+ seems to be most consistent

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and it's still rare as shit

wispy iris
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does the level of the weapon affect it also?

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blue vs orange for higher tier blessings

narrow crane
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yeah you wanna be rolling gold

wispy iris
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yea thought so

paper fern
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Why does smite even do any damage if it literally does like. 5 damage.

uncut hamlet
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if you charge it, it does like 15!

paper fern
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it's balanced because you don't have to use it

uncut hamlet
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lmaooo

steel flame
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its all one big fuckin slot machine baby

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god i hate crafting new weapons

hardy coral
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i dont quite understand the benifit of getting Rampage on a dueling sword that only hits 1 target at a time. hmm

limber heath
spice veldt
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all duelling swords have a cleave limit of at most 2 on attacks except the push-attack

steel flame
spice veldt
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mk2 is the cleave variant, but it also has only 2 cleave

hardy coral
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wait.. pushing counts as hitting multiple targets?

spice veldt
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nah not the push

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the push-attack

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when you hold down LMB instead of tapping it

hardy coral
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the push attack is a poke.

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ohh

molten schooner
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hey boys

limber heath
spice veldt
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the push-attack has 6 cleave but peepee poopoo damage, so you'd use that to proc rampage

molten schooner
hardy coral
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the Mk V is the only good one ive gotten thus far.

limber heath
spice veldt
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unfortunately, the mk4 is the only DS that got properly buffed during this round, so its heavies are noticeably better than the other two duelling swords

steel flame
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Oh hey @spice veldt I finally got dumdum 4 on my laspistol. Talk about a dps upgrade that shit shreds

hardy coral
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i wish they'd have different attack patterns you could switch between.

spice veldt
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how long were you fishing for dumdum4

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i got my ass beat trying to get warp flurry 4 on vstrike

steel flame
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On and off

spice veldt
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pain

steel flame
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Ikr

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It was the very last t4 I needed too

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The way it's stacks decay is wierd

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The longer you keep hitting the longer it takes for the stacks to decay

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It's wierd

primal plume
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is it me or is this really "meh"

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200 damage isnt really much compared to the alternative

steel flame
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Have you run it much?

primal plume
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I did just now

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it felt like it underperformed compared to creeping flames

steel flame
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I'll keep that in mind. I haven't worked my way over to that part of the skill tree

crude cape
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which of these 3 is the best you guys think? im guessing def not the 61% dmg + precog one lol
I can change reposte/rampage on the other two if needed too

steel flame
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My crack addict brain is still fixated on the crit tree rn

steel flame
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Rending negates the low penetration

crude cape
# steel flame The first one

the 67% pen one? i was sort of expecting the middle one to be called.
Any reason why? and what should i do with that top blessing? Dueling sword feels like combat knife, so many viable blessings now its kinda nuts

steel flame
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I didn't see rampage

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2

crude cape
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ive been liking riposte on recommendation from Arco.
but I feel like 2-3 maybe 4 other blessings would be viable in that spot

crude cape
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ive been questioning if rampage is the best perk tho

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crit, finnesse dmg, weakpoint dmg perks etc are all tempting

left turtle
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Fun moment when all these Assail psykers are making my friend who just picked up the game find it incredibly boring

steel flame
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Hey @spice veldt does the Mk4 heavy stabs have cleave? It feels like it has cleave but I'm too lazy to test

crude cape
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but i can't confirm

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could be wrong

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I was trying reposte on arco's reccomendation and i dont dislike it

steel flame
crude cape
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just not sure like, is it better than shred? precog is nice for bosses (which is what i often do, poke bosses, since so much of our stuff sucks vs bosses now), rampage is obviously good, i've heard great things about Agile,

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literally every blessing seems viable

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im so torn

steel flame
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Sigh

spice veldt
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is very sad

left turtle
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i just want it brought in line, i dont wanna see it gutted but, fuck dude, you can halfway check out mentally and still win with an assail psyker

crude cape
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ya im not using it

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bc of its bad rep/crutch

cyan notch
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its a poke it shouldnt have more cleave

crude cape
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im using old BB build mostly and it feels GREAT. the double BB speedup trigger is insane

steel flame
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So it makes a loop

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I like loops

left turtle
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i think all they need to do is gut its damage versus flak and maniac, make it purely a horde mulcher

spice veldt
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no

steel flame
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Pls god no

spice veldt
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i do not want assail to be purely hordeclear

left turtle
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smite=CC
Assail=Crowd Clear
BB=Priority target

spice veldt
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that is just not fun

steel flame
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Not at all

left turtle
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well it sure as fuck isnt fun right now either

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so much its draining everyone elses fun in the match

steel flame
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The ammo is the issue

spice veldt
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not fun -> not fun is not my goal

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not fun -> fun is my goal

steel flame
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Not it's ability to kill maniac/flak

left turtle
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so it should be a swiss army knife and kill anything and everything (besides carapace), just, make it a little slower at it?

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thats your idea of bringing it in line?

unique mist
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everyone's problem with assail is its spammability

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just reduce how quick shards regen

unique mist
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either by a flat amount or a dynamic amount

spice veldt
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the numbers I'd personally set would be 3 max with a noticeably slower regen

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ammo really is just the way to go about as the first step to nerfing assail

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Assail should just be a quickswap weapon

unique mist
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one idea i had which i'm sure everybody has heard by this point was make shards not regen at high peril. another may be shards don't regen while throwing them and have a regen cooldown from the last shard thrown

left turtle
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so how does it set apart from BB then if it still can quickly pop anything

unique mist
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"quickly" pop "anything"

spice veldt
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and you don't need to have Assail held out

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you can throw a shard -> swap back to your other weapons

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this is what I mean by quickswap

steel flame
left turtle
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yeah it just sounds like it'll keep BB obsolete in comparison

unique mist
spice veldt
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i mean that's just the inherent design of BB?

left turtle
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or the inherent overpowered design of assail

spice veldt
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why are you blaming assail like it has anything with how BB was designed

steel flame
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Bb has always been a burden

left turtle
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BB is perfectly fine, its just dragged down by a comically overpowered assail

unique mist
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bb has always been basically shit lol

spice veldt
unique mist
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they need to improve its targeting and make it so you dont waste peril on enemies that die before it pops

left turtle
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make it slightly weaker but still do BB's job but better

unique mist
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and make it so precharging bb generates peril but not on headpop

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and besides my guy, bb is outclassed by voidstrike anyway

left turtle
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BB should be target priority
Smite should be Control
Assail should be clear.

Its that simple. but yall wanna keep a swiss army knife

spice veldt
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BB is always going to be left behind because of its anti-carapace

unique mist
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maybe even trauma

spice veldt
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and with significantly less ammo than it currently has

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I don't know why you keep implying that we're keeping it as is

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when I've remarked on nerfing its ammo economy significantly

left turtle
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im implying youre not doing enough to its nerfing

tired jackal
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this is dank yes?

spice veldt
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well I'm only remarking on general numbers

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3 shards and what, at least 4-7 seconds per shard to come back

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I think that limits its DPS output by a significant amount

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because currently, you can burst through 10 shards at once, and they come back every 1.4s with Ethereal Shards

north cradle
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You should be using Assail only if you have a method of dealing with Ogryns, Maulers, and bosses. Surge Staff or Voidstrike are good complementary weapons

steel flame
spice veldt
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I think you are underestimating how much its ammo economy is propping up Assail as a primary weapon

north cradle
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If you are encountering enough Elites and not spending the Empowered freebies on Specialists at least

reef oasis
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I don't play psyker much... what do I want to replace the blazing soul with... I'm leaning towards transfer peril but dunno how consistently I hit weakspots, or could do warp nexus for the crit... surge seems unlikely given I don't think I'd crit that much without WN.

spice veldt
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i wonder what you would do with assail's EP effect with a nerf to its ammo economy

steel flame
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If people can't just keep assail out indefinitely, assail stops being problematic

left turtle
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if you reduce its ammo but keep its effective versus every enemy type than you just have a more effective BB, youll be reducing its ability to clear area. but sniper out priority targets

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WHICH IS LITERALLY BB'S JOB, SO YOU NEED TO SET IT APART

spice veldt
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and having some overlap isn't strictly bad

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I'd rather not have a blitz dedicated to hordeclear, either way

left turtle
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balancing things by making everything overpowered is the most dumbest way of balancing possible

north cradle
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BB needs a buff anyway. I can't one-shot Dreg Gunners without being Empowered, which feels really bad

spice veldt
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nerfing it to 3 max shards and increasing the regen by a good amount is a hefty nerf to it

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You really are underestimating how the ammo economy of Assail plays into how people currently use it

lyric burrow
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i think knife stealth zealots that just run ahead and aggro everything without fighting anything might the only players i block

spice veldt
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imagine if the current bolter had 45 ammo instead of 15 in a mag

left turtle
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it wouldnt be "Some overlap" it would still just be better BB

north cradle
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Can confirm, I spam Assail because it's really easy to use and quick to recover

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Now Veteran knows how we felt at launch

spice veldt
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because I could say that guns are a better BB

north cradle
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Guns are a better BB lol

spice veldt
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I don't get why you keep sticking onto the "better BB" when I could just say that guns are better at BB lmao

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given that you are evidently ignoring "anti-carapace" as a criteria

steel flame
lyric burrow
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i would prefer you didnt lol

north cradle
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Pre-patch, I would absolutely dominate the scoreboard on Elite and Specialist kills with BB as my primary weapon

lyric burrow
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thats like the first time ive gotten actually upset at people on this game

modest pasture
regal musk
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BB should always have just been % max health per second while charging on a target.

spice veldt
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and like I said, nerfing its ammo economy would prevent you from just bursting specials down

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and I will repeat this--you are underestimating how much Assail's current ammo economy is propping it up as a primary weapon

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If you could only throw 3 shards at a time, that would be a non-deterministic kill on a Trapper without buffs (750 bodyshot damage total)

modest pasture
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Its Especially annoying when you are TRYING to do penances and they keep stealing Specials to murk.

steel flame
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It has shorter reload than revolver rn .......and 10 shots

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That qualifies as a primary weapon

spice veldt
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and reloads while you're doing other stuff 😔

steel flame
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That too

spice veldt
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its ammo economy is actually so stupid

thorn cedar
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The recharge node is actually pointless it already regens so quickly

regal musk
spice veldt
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only thing is that it's on the gunker side of the tree

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so I don't want any interplay with peril in that regard

steel flame
regal musk
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No, i mean like you have to manually create them and doing so makes peril lol

spice veldt
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o

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regenerating them during downtime

steel flame
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Personally....I hate it

spice veldt
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i'd be fine with it

steel flame
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I don't need another weapon to forget to reload

spice veldt
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but I think a simple always-regenning but significantly slower sustained regen would be better?

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I'm not sure

regal musk
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Small stock, manual recharge. Rather than fast auto regen basically

broken ore
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how're people feeling about the odds of voidstrike nerf

tired jackal
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this is worth getting right? not sure about dueling sword perks/blessings

steel flame
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But I like the idea for smite

narrow crane
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it's happening

steel flame
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Let's make smite players have to reload

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Reload their lightning hands

narrow crane
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base stats are good

atomic zephyr
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the perks are decent

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weak spot dmg works towards the HS stabs

narrow crane
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perks are fine, not bricked

left turtle
tired jackal
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im assuming uncanny and precot/riposte/shred for blessings?

narrow crane
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uncanny shred for me

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I don't fuck with the dodge blessings, but they're not awful I guess

left turtle
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i run precog/riposte

dull osprey
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hey guys

spice veldt
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I like my pecrog/riposte as well

dull osprey
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does the venting talent can be used to save u after u go over 100 peril and start the animation like before talent update?

spice veldt
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precog being the higher bonus but shorter duration one

dull osprey
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i mean the venting ult on F

wispy iris
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whats the easiest way to do the cliffhanger penance?

tired jackal
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kk thx all

narrow crane
broken ore
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what is the last change i even make on this

olive ember
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suffer

dull osprey
narrow crane
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unyielding to max or weakpoint damage

olive ember
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you already have it easy you only have to push 7 enemies off

atomic zephyr
olive ember
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I had to do 20 smh

paper fern
wispy iris
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caps

paper fern
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hardest penance tbh

wispy iris
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oop

broken ore
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weakpoint damage? i thought it was terrible, is it because of finesse

olive ember
narrow crane
olive ember
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you can try that area

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its soloable

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but

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gl

wispy iris
spice veldt
olive ember
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anyone eles wanna confirm

narrow crane
olive ember
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I haven't done psyker penances since like january

spice veldt
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+60% Finesse is equivalent to +60% Weakspot Damage & +60% Critical Damage

paper fern
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I still have no god damn clue what finesse, impact, whatever the hell all of that means

limber heath
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recommended changes? i assume ditch terrifying and cdmg

paper fern
limber heath
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would blazing spirit be slottable

atomic zephyr
wispy iris
dull osprey
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terryfing barrage ugh

narrow crane
spice veldt
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i like riposte for when I whiff a mutant shot and I get +20% crit when shanking him in the back

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but I think precog is overall better for melee/monstrosity maelstrom

dull osprey
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change barrage to peril resist or dmg talent and ur gucchi

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or some people like the charge speed

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makes the lightning staff like a quickdraw weapon

limber heath
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is blazing spirit ever a funny meme you could run or not worth on surge

dull osprey
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since last patch? eh

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surge is kinda a single target facemelter atm

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it completely 180°-d with the patch

kind jay
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can hit 3 targets with smite node

dull osprey
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ye but the dmg drop off is bg

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big

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deals next to no damage on 3rd target

kind jay
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i don't see a damage drop

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unless it doesn't work that way in grinder

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idk

olive ember
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its a huge damage drop what

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it only significantly damages first target

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2nd target gets tickled 3rd idek

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"significantly" damages isn't even that good

dull osprey
kind jay
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yeah it's not an issue

olive ember
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its a 3 shot crusher unless you jump through like 5 different hoops and get lucky and then maybe you 2 shot a single crusher

olive ember
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so eh

dull osprey
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it is an issue cuz

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the staff went from a screen wide cc to a single target death laser

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tho i understand the reason behind it

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u already have 3 staffs which deals with crowds

olive ember
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its to differentiate between surge staff and smite

dull osprey
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so they were kinda overlapping

olive ember
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which now does what surge staff did

kind jay
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i mean i can still cc 3 specials at a time while doing damage

olive ember
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its CC is dog now

dull osprey
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thats true but

olive ember
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I'd rather just take trauma

dull osprey
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u better take the charge up

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and just kill them in the same time

olive ember
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it can hit 3 enemies at most, and yet it can't even stun a mutant reliably

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genuinely would be better off using a trauma or even a purge staff for CC

kind jay
#

sure it can just quickcast twice

olive ember
#

when theres 4 muties running me down I want to stun it the first time like it used to

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which I guess smite does now

#

but

#

surge staff is just mid

dull osprey
#

surge staff is pretty good with smite tho

olive ember
#

damage is meh, 1 target at a time, CC is unreliable

kind jay
#

you're just gonna pull out mk4 anyways

#

who cares what staff at that point

olive ember
#

I mean true

dull osprey
#

u can reliably blast 1 elite for a passive stack to get the juicy 0 peril lightning

jolly hawk
#

I saw a off hand post about void strike being broken?

olive ember
#

0 peril lightning is a bug n a half

olive ember
#

if you build it properly it can one shot crushers

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and decimate hordes on its way there

narrow crane
#

off hand post lmfao

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it's all anyone talks about

olive ember
#

normal voidstrike staff, slap on warp nexus and surge blessings

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tada it can now one shot assuming you have damage stats

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and then grab true aim and assail in your tree so you get free crit every 5 headshots

dull osprey
jolly hawk
dull osprey
#

u really cant tell where bugs end and mechanics beginds

olive ember
#

if it isn't a bug then they are stupid

#

but who knows fatshark moment amirite

dull osprey
#

as i said

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vt2 has the same "features" where half the tooltips have hidden/wrong/not complete info

olive ember
#

probably but its stupid and no way thats intended gameplay behavior

#

if it is intended then idk wtf the devs are smoking

olive ember
#

if you want a feat tree

#

this also works

regal musk
#

Rate this thing lol.
Sadly ... Those are basically the only 2 staff blessings i have outside of the suppression one ... because the game absolutely refuses to put staves in rewards or the shops.

wispy iris
#

how should I complete warp wbattery?

dull osprey
#

@regal musk sell it junk 😄

regal musk
olive ember
#

otherwise its aight

regal musk
#

Yeah, Surge is the one i would like. If i ever see it lol

olive ember
#

its a rare blessing cuz it only shows up as a t4

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so yeah your best bet is to farm crafting mats and then spam craft voidstrike until you get lucky

regal musk
#

Oh cool, a super rare blessing on what is already essentially a 0.1% drop rate weapon lol

olive ember
#

you don't buy brunts?

dense bramble
#

Surge and flurry works better than warp nexus if youre using the guaranteed crit perk

olive ember
#

brunts armoury for grey voidstrike and then upgrade em to gold

regal musk
#

Dont have the dockets for it lol, onoly have 40k~ right now >_>

olive ember
#

ah rip

regal musk
#

I dont get a ton of time of time play between shifts sadly.

olive ember
#

yeah welcome to endgame darktide crafting

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big rip

dull osprey
#

more plasteel efficent

olive ember
#

?? pretty sure upgrading them to gold gives significantly higher chance to get t4 blessings

#

they changed it a few updates back did they not?

dull osprey
olive ember
#

I mean shit like this will never be confirmed

dull osprey
#

correct me if im wrong

olive ember
#

but idk the consensus iirc is upgrade to gold

dense bramble
#

I got surge and t4 flurry on the same staff.

broken ore
#

does anyone know the math behind higher base rating weapons giving higher chances of t4 as well?

dense bramble
#

Never seen t4/t3 blessings mixed

olive ember
#

@spice veldt @near wyvern you guys still awake? Do you upgrade to blue or gold to farm blessings

spice veldt
#

idk

spice veldt
#

i'd pick the option that balances out your resources

regal musk
#

I suppose the important quyestion about that stick of mine is .. Would you stab me if i showed up to a T5 with it lol

spice veldt
#

if you have more dockets, then spam blues

olive ember
spice veldt
#

if you have more plasteel, then spam oranges

olive ember
#

its all wishy washy tbh

dense bramble
#

Ive not seen a weapon get a t3 blessing and then a t4

potent echo
#

And also, low weapon base ratings will mainly give T1-T2 blessings, so power rating and higher chance of T4 blessings should be correlated

potent echo
olive ember
dense bramble
#

Damn all my shit is t3 or t4

wispy iris
#

here an example

dense bramble
#

ok

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Then its best to gold

potent echo
#

Perhaps

dull osprey
#

think about it u wont get a t4 on a 200 wep

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if u are hunting t4 perk i wouldnt craft anything below 330

snow coral
#

What are the Mark IV blessings of choice?

broken ore
#

uh, i mean the exact math not just "higher = better"

olive ember
dull osprey
#

its perfectly fine if u make a good wep with t3 blessings first

rocky cedar
#

Yo so finally getting round to trying post patch Psyker and no real idea where the balance is at with them. I was a blazing trauma enjoyer pre patch, but despite how much more crit chance I can stack now blazing trauma feels noticeably worse to me. Am I just tripping or what?

spice veldt
#

Uncanny Strike + Riposte/Shred/Precognition/Rampage(because it's bugged to give a ~2x damage increase instead of the 1.36x that you'd expect from the description)

dull osprey
#

that small difference between a t3 or t4 perk wont be the reason you wipe

wispy iris
broken ore
#

unfortunately surge is t4 only so

olive ember
broken ore
#

can't settle for 3

snow coral
#

Thanks, melk had one with precog and shred, sounds like you don't want both of those

olive ember
#

ofc having a good weapon helps with not performing like shit but

olive ember
snow coral
#

they were 3s and I don't know if I have any blessings stored, I'll look after this run

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stats weren't great either so I don't know if I want it just to strip the blessing

regal musk
steel flame
#

I tilt if I get killed by poxburster bullshit 4 times in a mission ......not that that has ever happened before........just.. theoretically of course

kind jay
#

can't improve without doing

eager token
#

do i cop monka

hollow current
#

melks? seems worth rolling unless you can afford only one weapon from him.

potent echo
#

Unyielding carapace is decent

eager token
#

ye its at melks

potent echo
#

You can reroll both blessings if hadron gives you a bad one

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So yea buy it I would say

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If you manage to get T4 surge/flurry/nexus that's great too

eager token
#

time to ROLL

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lmao fuck

north cradle
#

That's honestly not awful. Just replace both Blessings

dull osprey
#

eeeeeh

#

unyiellding and carapace

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2 of the rarest type of enemy

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with the least quantity

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and hipfire yikes

north cradle
#

Have you seen Auric missions lately? Crushers and Bulwarks pop up like hotcakes

dull osprey
#

ye and?

#

not like staffs doesnt deal respectable dmg to begin with to those + you have plenty of tools for cc and shit

north cradle
#

The new damage model supports Unyielding and Carapace more than it used to

dull osprey
#

as in what? u not gonna shoot a monster with ur staff lmao

north cradle
#

What else are you supposed to use?

dull osprey
#

and at carapace its not the dmg which is important its the control tools

#

flak

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allways flak

#

u cant make an argument on not to ever have flak

north cradle
#

No Monstrosities have Flak

dull osprey
#

but u dont use staffs vs monsters . . .

ornate hamlet
narrow crane
north cradle
#

What am I supposed to use? Melee isn't exactly Psyker's strong suit against monstrosities

narrow crane
#

Void, Trauma, Purge are all excellent

dull osprey
#

what u are supposed to do is to just clear horde and give space for others most of the time

spice veldt
#

not trauma against monstrosities

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except the bonbon

dull osprey
#

there is a big chance u have a gungryn or zealot with facemelter builds in ur group

dull osprey
#

they are okay

north cradle
#

Horde enemies get deleted by Voidstrike because they're all Unarmoured and Infested. Look at the damage against both of them. They're over 300 damage at 80%

dull osprey
#

u need flak

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not unarmed and infested 😂

#

flak puts most of the flaks down form 3 hits to 2 thats big

narrow crane
# dull osprey excellent is hard word

Void staggers monsters, and does insane damage. Purge does crazy DoT to monsters. And if you run Rending Shockwave on trauma, you apply brittleness to monsters while staggering pretty much everything next to it so you can give ogryns and zealots more breathing room.

#

that is far from "okay"

north cradle
#

Exactly, you don't want Unarmoured and Infested perks on an 80%. Flak is nice for Scab Gunners, but you're aiming for the Unarmoured head on Scab Bruisers who get toppled over easily if you miss. You know what else will deal with Flak enemies though? Assail.

dull osprey
north cradle
#

Until Assail gets nerfed hard enough to be discouraged, having an option for dealing with Carapace and Unyielding enemies, the things Assail are weak against, are great for covering your bases

olive ember
#

(He means voidstrike)

narrow crane
dull osprey
#

well we agree to disagree then

olive ember
#

Staffs on bosses is ehh

dull osprey
#

imo sykers are not spectacular vs monsters in any setup mainly u should be the one fending off nearby chaff to give space for the guys to mince the bosses

olive ember
#

Except maybe voidstrike psure duelling sword 4 does more damage

dull osprey
#

no reason to start charging ur staff when if u give 10 seconds to a zealot they'Ll melt the monsters by themselves

north cradle
#

I would not use anything other than staves because Beast of Nurgle can tail swipe me, and Chaos Spawn can grab me and whack me into my buddies

dull osprey
narrow crane
#

you can use a staff to attack monsters and deal with the horde for the other damage dealers for your team, incredible value

north cradle
#

The Beast of Nurgle tail is its fastest attack.

steel flame
north cradle
#

Not to mention that it's unpredictable because it can be facing one guy, but then immediately change its targeting to swipe you away

olive ember
#

It doesn’t vaporize everything I look at smh

wispy iris
#

is this doomed

north cradle
#

Show me the damage breakdowns?

steel flame
olive ember
north cradle
#

Your staff is probably salvageable with some perks, but you need some good Blessings too

north cradle
#

Show me the full thing brah

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And its damage breakdowns

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Don't be shy

olive ember
#

Be very shy

#

I judge everyone on everything

north cradle
#

Okay Zealot

olive ember
#

If your opinion doesn’t line up with mine exactly

rocky cedar
#

Has anyone found a blazing trauma skill tree that feels good to them?

olive ember
#

I haven’t rly used blazing trauma tbh

#

I got a pretty sick purge staff tree

snow coral
#

what are these bullet symbols for?

north cradle
#

I don't think I've seen that before. Mod?

snow coral
#

maybe? I'm only running UI ones mostly. I did have the 'full auto' installed but that seems to be broken since the last update

left mirage
#

likely the fullauto mod maybe

#

ive never seen those pop up

north cradle
#

I never used it myself

#

Oof VIIa?

left mirage
#

at least its not a 2

north cradle
#

Fair

left mirage
#

6 is king, 7 is weird

#

2 is no

strong gulch
#

Who needs keystones?? 😂

left mirage
#

really fucking badly lmao

dull osprey
strong gulch
dull osprey
strong gulch
left mirage
#

they're too good to give up

north cradle
#

I like the firing noise on the VIIa, that's about it

left mirage
#

but the lower right keystone is so garbage it doesnt exist

snow coral
#

so... mk IV vs V, and what's the dump stat?

wispy iris
dull osprey
wispy iris
#

i found it

olive ember
#

Bottom right keystone might be useable with the duration extension

wispy iris
#

but doomed

olive ember
#

The 30s duration instead of 15 base but eh

dull osprey
#

thing is u kinda want both the talent behind it but they are exclusive

#

still if u have good perks/rolls the right side can produce some giga big brain gun/sword build which are super strong

left mirage
north cradle
#

I don't think Disrupt Destiny is worth it at all honestly

left mirage
#

its so ass

wispy iris
left mirage
#

it should be a guaranteed per second, not chance

strong gulch
wispy iris
dull osprey
dull osprey
#

scryer ends on 100 peril

north cradle
dull osprey
#

if u prolong it by reducing u get more duration

dull osprey
#

kinda like vet F where u can prolong it by a long if u hit hte key targets for refresh

#

@left mirage wait a sec

left mirage
#

so its only good with gaze + gunpsyk

#

i dont use gaze either tbh so i wouldnt know

olive ember
#

Eh not rly cuz vet F can be extended indefinitely

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Scriers gaze peril gen increases over time until you just can’t sustain it

north cradle
# wispy iris

So I can only see one path to making this thing workable. Replace Infested with Flak and replace Sustained Fire with Warp Nexus

left mirage
#

you can with the +quell speed but at that point you're literally just quelling lmao

#

free toughness tho

dull osprey
#

eh idk where it is

#

someone linked like 4 different showcase of gunsyker with the right sotne

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my buddy uses the rend build iwth it on the dueling sword

strong gulch
# rocky cedar Has anyone found a blazing trauma skill tree that feels good to them?

Assail and smite feel pretty good with blaze trauma. I like the crit aura and all of the top part of the toughness passives at the top compliment the staff.

Edit to add that gaze would not be great because you effectively can't use the staff with peril climbing quickly. Blaze trauma needs you to be at high peril for the crit chance on nexus. Gaze could work for melee maybe, but it doesn't synergize with warp heavy attacks.

wispy iris
north cradle
#

Maniac is good for Flamers and Mutants, so don't discard it entirely

#

Oh and Dreg Ragers

#

Terrifying Barrage I think has its benefits. Close Range is like 8m?

left mirage
#

the range increases based on bless level

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so i think its 8m at 4

north cradle
#

The suppression range is. But I'm talking about how it's triggered to begin with

olive ember
#

Unless they changed it close ranged goes up to 15m

left mirage
#

ye ye

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so as long as you're killing within 8m you get free cc

dull osprey
#

it makes it peril heavy but the damage is nuts

north cradle
#

I uhhhh would not recommend

#

That's an easy way to explode

left mirage
#

yeah

dull osprey
#

u can kill by exploding too

#

emprah be praised

left mirage
#

lol

#

id just run emp'd assail if i was running it

dull osprey
#

cowards

left mirage
#

or warp charge shield spam assail

#

lmao

dull osprey
#

other problems is for some reason all the peril resist stuff is on the left side making it hard to branch between those and t he right keystone

#

assume its intentional

left mirage
#

idk if this is legit but it seems like smite removes soulblaze on hit?

#

or it might just be a visual bug

#

but the damage doesnt seem to lineup

north cradle
#

My gun psyker is using a Mk XII lasgun with Scryer's, Shield, and Warp Siphon. Although I never brought it to an Auric so I can't speak to its efficacy

dull osprey
left mirage
#

no i mean soulblaze visual effects disappear when you cast smite on them

north cradle
#

It's probably just overlapping VFX

left mirage
#

then if they get reproc'd soulblaze it registers

dull osprey
#

^

rocky cedar
#

I assume KD doesn't let you tank a crusher overhead?

left mirage
#

so like i purgatus a normal enemy, then smite them + elite

#

blaze goes away then comes back after the elite pops

north cradle
#

GPUs would explode if they had to render Soulblaze and biolightning at the same time in a bigass crowd

left mirage
#

then it works like normal

#

but they can, that's the thing

#

with the elite soulblaze + soulblaze on kill it does reproc

#

its just that smite removes it on cast

north cradle
#

Huh weird, maybe it's just an interaction with multiple DOTs

left mirage
#

you can test in simul

#

its kinda fucked

#

i was hoping for purg + smite to shock and burn

#

full send into aoe to melt hordes

#

but it just doesnt work

strong gulch
north cradle
#

Hell yeah

#

Unlimited power, limited processing power

strong gulch
#

Freeze time

#

TIME WARP 👁️ 👄 👁️

left mirage
#

is there a mod to remove the smite vfx

#

i really want it gone

#

just keep the tickle lightning, remove the smoke

strong gulch
#

If not, then it's only a matter of time before there's a mod or a fatshark update with vfx changes.

vocal veldt
#

Rolled this, what can I do to beef it up?

snow coral
#

wow that's pretty great already

vocal veldt
#

I agree but, I was wondering if I should change out the perks

gilded viper
#

shield or scrier's with voidstrike you think?

olive ember
#

Shield or shriek

#

Scriers is aight with transfer peril tho

gilded viper
#

I only have a transfer peril void lmao, but I'll probably just use dome

#

What do I want on dueling Sword? I got Uncanny but what else was to consider?

dull osprey
#

its just preference tbh both are good

worthy scaffold
#

whats your guys curio build?

dull osprey
#

combination of toughness/hp/ wound if u want it + toughness/hp/gunner resistance

#

but thats true for everyone except zealot they have a bit more room to play around

worthy scaffold
#

whats wound do in the stats of curio?

dull osprey
#

u can be downed +1 time

worthy scaffold
#

ohh

dull osprey
#

u can see in ur hp bar u get extra stripes

gilded viper
worthy scaffold
#

but it cant stack, correct

gilded viper
#

each wound curio gives more wounds

#

they stack

worthy scaffold
#

gonna do those now, tks alot

dull osprey
gilded viper
#

Especially since there's 9 wound martyrdom zealots running around

dull osprey
#

thats why u see zealots with martyr builds running around with more wounds than ur monitor has pixels

#

1 wound is recommended if u are newer/stepping difficulty

gilded viper
#

Idealy you just down less and run some toughness and hp curios to help with chip

dull osprey
#

on syker block effiency is also useful if u are using force swords since u can block range attacks too

gilded viper
#

Only deflector force swords block ranged attacks and give block efficiency with the blessing

#

You really shouldn't be charging a gunline tho

dull osprey
#

tell that to teammates KEKW_ogryn

worthy scaffold
#

got shield for that

#

some reason they just shooting me but not the zealot charging them

dull osprey
#

but u should use deflectro anyways so thats kinda w/e

gilded viper
#

It's still good, just keep in mind it has an hp bar

worthy scaffold
#

its a temporal solution so can position again

gilded viper
#

What perks are people running on their dueling swords? +maniac? or what?

dull osprey
#

crit/weakspot

#

it has highest finesse brooooooooo

harsh urchin
#

Dont listen to ppl who say crit weakspot lul

idle bay
#

I find really ironic:

  1. Players been complaining about Assail being too much for them.
  2. Psykers players realizing that Assail will be turn into wet noodle, switching to Smite (or back to very underwhelming BB).
  3. Teams with 2-3 Smite Psykers melting other players PC's
dull osprey
#

and it is good with dueling

#

rare exception

harsh urchin
#

Crit is good for people who cant aim

#

And crit and weakspot mathematically are poor damage due to the way the gaeme calculates it

#

The only reason finesse is good is because the numbers are so high

terse rivet
#

What do you guys consider the dump stats on Voidstrike staves?

harsh urchin
#

But the actual perk rolls are dogshit

#

Since they go up to 10

burnt island
#

Ah yeah. Hit that 30.

idle bay
#

I like how they re-use drapes and carpets for reject's drip 🙂

wispy iris
pseudo solstice
#

finally got my psyker to 30 just now, and got this, what should i reroll

summer prairie
#

I guess the perks even though surge+nexus is probably optimal right now

#

you could just keep it like that for a while though

flat shadow
#

Was the precognition change good

#

Finesse damage basically means higher crit and weak spot damage right

dawn wolf
#

Upgrade your relics and melee first :p

#

curios*

severe folio
#

always felt like there could be better curio so i cant bring myself to upgrade lol

near wyvern
flat shadow
#

I wanted to use it but it's not in the new trees

kind knot
#

just found this thing from the armory exchange

flat shadow
#

That's pretty goopy with the slop

severe folio
#

want to say thats pretty nice but

#

72 damage

flat shadow
#

Yummy

severe folio
#

and 75 charge rate

coarse sequoia
#

what perks/blessings i want on antax?

flat shadow
#

But that max radius doe

#

They'll fall miles away

idle bay
kind knot
#

slight decreases dont bother me terribly much

severe folio
#

it greatly bother me because i have limited resources

#

god gave me this while i was looking for purg staff

kind knot
#

how bad is the end result

severe folio
#

well

torpid void
#

what is the op bugged build for psyker?

kind knot
severe folio
#

first of all there isnt gonna be any weakspotting in that charge attack

kind knot
#

yeah

severe folio
#

so thats 1 perk out the window

#

secondly

#

hipfiring

#

and transfer peril too

#

essentially 3/4 not going to be well used on that staff

#

the crit hit is nice though

kind knot
#

base stats are pretty good, but the rest is pretty meh is what i see

severe folio
#

its a tragedy

kind knot
#

other than the crit i suppose

severe folio
#

like a steam engine car

flat shadow
#

Run and gun is just weird

severe folio
#

run and gun should be deleted

flat shadow
#

I can't imagine times where I'd be running in a straight line at enemies

#

maybe for the assault rifles i understand

severe folio
#

unless they unlock omni directional sprinting yeah

flat shadow
#

Because at least they suppress

severe folio
#

so that we can sprint left right back

limber heath
#

even just sprint left right would be great

severe folio
#

exactly

#

or even strafing to the side

#

sprinting while turning

kind knot
#

i dont even know what to do with the staff now

flat shadow
#

Keep it

kind knot
#

im probably not gonna use it, since i have a voidstrike staff that i love

severe folio
#

see that level 4 transfer peril

flat shadow
#

It's still good stats

severe folio
#

grab it

kind knot
#

can i put that on a different kind of staff tho?

severe folio
#

yes

keen harbor
#

nope

severe folio
#

the transfer peril

keen harbor
#

nope

severe folio
#

cant be put on other staff ?

flat shadow
#

Only other traumas

#

I think

keen harbor
#

I know voidstrike looks the same as Trauma, but they are both different categories

severe folio
#

so what is this

keen harbor
#

And all 4 sticks are from a different family

#

bugged asset?

kind knot
#

the buffs are the same, they just cant go to different types of staves it seems

severe folio
#

i see

kind knot
#

silly

#

but it does make a bit of sense

severe folio
#

well then

#

keep it til;l you find a better trauma staff

#

though this is one of the lesser useful blessing so i have a feeling it wont be used

keen harbor
#

The skin is from a nomus surge force, but the regular voidstrike skin is a silver bird

severe folio
#

what does the skin has to do with anythin

#

i was pointing at the transfer peril

keen harbor
#

Yeah, you see it says "Voidstrike" at the end there

kind knot
#

your surge staff says voidstrike

keen harbor
#

This is how the regular ones look, and it's easy to confuse that they are from the same family

gilded viper
flat shadow
#

zammit

severe folio
#

i thought that all staffs are from the same family

#

just staff

rocky cedar
limber heath
livid maple
#

So is the Psyker's beloved actually the emperor or a warp entity, you think?

severe folio
#

damn

idle bay
severe folio
livid maple
#

my theory is it's one of the emperor's quadrillion shattered parts of his soul

idle bay
#

You've seen a Purple and Violet color you as Psyker of tentacles on high peril ? I suspect that it's some kind of Slaaneshi demon making a good company for a seer, pretending to be Big E

severe folio
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my assumption is that its his own consciousness

livid maple
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also valid

severe folio
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that way when he discover he is ultimately alone in both the real space and the warp, the loneliness can grip his heart and bite it cold

zinc phoenix
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Luckily there is always the Lex Atoma to fall back on

severe folio
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the emperor is dead and gone

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the only protection from the warp that the imperium have are the thousand psyker soul killed in his name, wandering in the alter space to distract the daemon

zinc phoenix
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stop right there heretic scum

severe folio
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THE IMPERIUM ARE ONLY PROTECTED BY THROWING HUMAN BAIT INTO THE SEA OF SHARK

zinc phoenix
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Chum

still hearth
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Tfw the Emperor literally can't die and is actually staying "dead" to protect us

zinc phoenix
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But also there’s the giant lighthouse emprah makes with his magic

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You can’t be making a giant lighthouse without being alive

idle bay
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Though he is Mostly a overglorified PLUG to major WARP LEAK on Terra...

severe folio
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is there book about this

idle bay
severe folio
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more about the emperor in death

zinc phoenix
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Yeah the big book of shit people made up while high

severe folio
idle bay
zinc phoenix
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Until is time to sell models we won’t get answer here

severe folio
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true

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but at least i can update myself with knowledge people already have

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so its an actual thing then, that the emperor is half dead, and not a fact made up by the imperium ?

zinc phoenix
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Only GW knows

severe folio
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if only the GW know

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then that means

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its undecided lol

dense bramble
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So Ive had scoreboard on for a bit and Ive noticed psykers do most damage and get the most kills. Is it OP?

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Generally

severe folio
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maybe

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is there a problem to it

dense bramble
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Its always been my main

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Assail and voidstrike are a bit strong atm though

severe folio
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theyll get nerf

livid maple
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assail seems op

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big like having 10 brainbursts. I notice the shards target and almost instakill elites first

dense bramble
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I dunno assail would be sick if it literally cost 2x peril for half the shots

severe folio
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i prefer if asssail is just 1 shard but it go back and forth around all enemies, and charge peril per enemy it hit

dense bramble
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As it is its better than most staffs

zinc phoenix
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Is more likely they’ll give it an actual role rather than having it be the do everything tool

livid maple
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youd snowball into 100 really quick

severe folio
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like smite autoamtically stop

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this way it become the actual yondu arrow

livid maple
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hm

dense bramble
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Ive never actually seen anyone smite infinitely

severe folio
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that is because they like their frame rate safe

zinc phoenix
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Idk how people trust that because I am so used to launch psyker just blowing itself up

livid maple
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yeah thatd be interesting

severe folio
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infintie smite hits hard on frame rate

zinc phoenix
severe folio
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the smokes

zinc phoenix
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It’s so boring I stopped after a couple missions

plucky flax
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It's funny but teammates for some reason won't actually hit the enemies.

severe folio
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its because

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they are lagging

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when smite go out

plucky flax
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Tru

severe folio
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not that it matter

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because if they dont hit it, then the kills go to you

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eventually

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watch them pop like corn in the pot

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pop like zealot stun grenade

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might be evil but stunning not just the enemy but your allies by smiting a damnation horde and then eventually kill it looks very pretty

wispy iris
bleak tulip
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its so fuckin annoying

lyric burrow
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Yeah it becomes unplayable for some people

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Which is shitty

severe folio
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psyker roleplay

hearty sedge
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Like, I know the weekends are bad when it comes to player quality, but jesus this weekend was just awful for auric.

severe folio
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its monday

hearty sedge
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Also I swear that the crusher overhead sound is broken, or much quieter than it was pre patch. I've eaten far more than I feel I used to.

unique mist
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the eternal blessings struggle. still searching for Surge. currently have warp flurry, warp nexus and sustained fire t4

hearty sedge
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Just roll up either trauma or voidstrike. They both can have it.

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Then pray.