#psyker-class

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cold oasis
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Welcome to pre-patch Psykers

obsidian arch
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is empathetic evasion good i dont understand the skill

spice veldt
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ranged i-frames on critical hits

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it ees what it ees

late yew
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honestly

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you have amssive skill issues

ornate hamlet
spice veldt
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saltydwarf moment

late yew
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if that all allows you to do well with Psyker

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then may be you should not be throwing such strong opinions lol

ornate hamlet
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I only go off of what I see on Youtube etc. I informed myself a bit of the situation before buying. 😄

late yew
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most of youtubers are idiots

spice veldt
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well pre-patch psyker did have some clear weaknesses tbf

late yew
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so

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wat

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pre patch psyker was only secodn to vet

spice veldt
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interesting take

ornate hamlet
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The consensus I found was that Assail and Voidstrike are super strong, and the notion seems similar here. So not sure where I am so wrong.

frank moat
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1 psykinetic’s wrath = 1 crusher like if yuo agree

royal falcon
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1 psykinetic’s wrath = 1 plague ogryn

gleaming sparrow
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just a shame other players havent picked up on the fact that they need to help kill while the psyker stun locks lol

zinc phoenix
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No. BB is a secondary used to clear distance stuff/gunners/bosses paired with a staff that you use for big work. Smite is a wide area CC skill that also is secondary to a staff. They’re both good and entirely usable

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Assail is weird for being an alternative to your other weapons

gleaming sparrow
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oh no your sound effect for the lightning 🤣

late yew
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ogryn and zealot were both bad

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Psyker was fuckn crazy

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he hadbest melee

kindred kite
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Good for zee psyker?

worn cypress
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yeah looks great

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with purg the dmg stat doesnt matter too much, since we rely on exponential stacking of burn

atomic zephyr
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is savage sweep or wrath better on chain sword? if both was t4

spice veldt
reef nacelle
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these okay for a starter dueling

spice veldt
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also, you know that psyker was in a good state when your first thought about pre-patch psyker was their melee

late yew
lunar hollow
spice veldt
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kid named flamer and chastise the wicked

lunar hollow
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here's a true duo with ogryn and psyker

late yew
lunar hollow
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there very specific loadouts for both ogryn and psyker that were incredibly strong

late yew
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He outclassed zealot

north heath
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what are ya'lls relics/curios?

worn cypress
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never been a fan of all the “best X” comparison because its mostly just questionable opinions

spice veldt
lunar hollow
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to say ogryn and zealot were flat out bad is to just be willfully ignorant of how the game works and the disparities between classes

spice veldt
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if you ignore everything good about them, then they're pretty bad

lunar hollow
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zealot had literally infinite survivability with holy rev which mattered a lot for situations where there are ❤️ players

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what

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why is that a hard

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heart

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oh less than 3

worn cypress
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lol

lunar hollow
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lmao

worn cypress
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lmao

steel sluice
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Censorship strikes again!

late yew
lunar hollow
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so fuckin tired i didnt realize what that was lol

spice veldt
worn cypress
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but yeah really even moreso with darktide lots of the opinions are just skill issue

spice veldt
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and I was around for when you began psyker, where you remarked on "posers" who dared to play a class that wasn't their first

steel sluice
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The entire vet chat is a skill issue

worn cypress
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that other class I dont play beyond getting it to 30 is shit is beyond common take

lunar hollow
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im inclined to believe saltydwarf's opinion isnt that credible considering he's the guy who said you can't hit elites in a mixed horde with crucis

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and when i provided evidence to the contrary he just didnt respond

spice veldt
steel sluice
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I’ve been watching vet chat go on for hours a day since the patch constantly arguing whether vet is better or worse than it was pre patch

spice veldt
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they are the type of people who somehow make me have to defend brain burst

worn cypress
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lol watching vet chat has been great entertainment

viscid matrix
feral verge
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salty dwarf was playing psyker for idk 1 or 3 weeks

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then was like yeah, damn all these new psykers lol

steel sluice
lunar hollow
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there are legitimate issues with the vet tree but theres also a million goddamn whiners

cold oasis
lunar hollow
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mad that the class that was the mostly blatantly overpowered for almost a year isn't in that slot anymore

cold oasis
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Vet Tree is fucekd beyond belief

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all the good shit is at the bottom

worn cypress
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lots of vets just arent used to not being the hurr durr most OP class in game

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like, legitimate issue with the tree rn

cold oasis
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The fucking 25% thoughness on elite kill (what i would consider a 100% pick all the time), is like 5 down at the bottom

worn cypress
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but the amount of copium is real

cold oasis
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I mean,honestly, Psyker got the best tree

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by far

magic vessel
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Can I fish for Surge on random shit blues or can it only pop up on Transcendant?

steel sluice
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Yeah it’s not perfect, nothing is, but dang they can whine and have some of the oddest takes sometimes

lunar hollow
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its more likely on gold but very rarely u can get a usable t4 blessing on a blue

magic vessel
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F

cold oasis
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I mean, Psyker is great because you can mix and match everything with ease

magic vessel
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I really wanna graft it onto this new staff but i don't have it yet

cold oasis
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Yeah some stuff is better than other, but you can pick everything

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Zealot and Vet tree are honestly horrible

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Vet got everything good at the end, Zealot everything good at the start

worn cypress
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I think zealot has a better tree, but that tree really makes you pick between hard tradeoffs

cold oasis
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I fucking despise Zealot tree

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The thoughness DR being 4 deep at the start over the knife

steel sluice
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Vet’s a lot more about focusing on what you want to specialize in it feels

worn cypress
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makes it feel more shit to put things together since you feel like you’re missing crap

cold oasis
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makes you pick knife like 99% of the time, due to how good that talent is

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Same for the Immunity to Melee (and ranged) attacks

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being 2 deep on Loner

frank moat
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I do at least find it interesting from like, a developer perspective that they didn’t just make one tree layout and swap the skills around for each class

worn cypress
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yeah that one is so annoying

cold oasis
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And that's something you need to pick every time.

frank moat
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Cool to see the devs experimenting like that even if reception is mixed

worn cypress
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but again I’m beyond pissed they locked all warp things behind siphon

cold oasis
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I mean, honestly, just switch two three "class defying talents" around

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and all the trees would be fine

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Like, another example is Ogryn

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If you go gun Ogryn, you can't go Heavy Attack ogryn

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because you can't take the bleed on heavy with the gun ability

hard anvil
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Is the penance "Power Up" bugged?

cold oasis
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probably?

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a lot of penances are bugged

hard anvil
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Ahhh, yeah that'd explain it. Thanks.

young meteor
harsh urchin
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I love seeing newbies talk about video games tbh

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Cuz the shit they say is so funny

cold oasis
atomic zephyr
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i think wrath is better than Savage sweep on chain sword

frank moat
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The real question is why didn’t they put the Warp Siphon keystone in the middle so the tree could be symmetrical

spice veldt
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even with the chained hit condition?

cold oasis
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Imho you want the bleed on special on chainswords

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unless you got a perfect one

brittle ferry
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I just saw a psyker deleting everything, even crushers almost instantly with surge staff, how?

cold oasis
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it fixes a lot of breakpoints for it

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Surge deals insane damage now

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it's like void, but for two targets

frank moat
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Surge was reworked with patch 13 and does an assload of single target damage

brittle ferry
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But also still deletes hordes?

frank moat
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No

cold oasis
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you sure he wasn't just using Assail? KEKW_ogryn

spice veldt
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something else is doing the horde deletioin

brittle ferry
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Dont think so

cold oasis
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maybe he was using Smite+Voidstrike then?

spice veldt
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surge only hits two targets, so it's not deleting hordes any time soon

brittle ferry
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I mean he can’t have void staff, and if it was assail I woulda noticed

spice veldt
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did they have Venting Shriek?

atomic zephyr
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you wont always get 3 enemies in 1 heavy swingand swinging heavy leaves you open to a horde smacking around you

viscid matrix
zinc phoenix
young meteor
zinc phoenix
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Crit hard with surge is big delete

atomic zephyr
# cold oasis Imho you want the bleed on special on chainswords

i have 1 with t4 bleed, just need it to deal with hordes better, tried both wrath and savage sweep, wrath is better imo, SS triggers with 3, so i need to heavy swing, leaves me a bit open in between hits, some times i swing heavy and dont hit 3 targets either. Wrath stacks and eventually you go from 2 targets to 3-4 targets, makes it better for horde, as long as you're dancing and dodging, its better.

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this one slaps

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with a t4 wrath, i'd chop even quick i think

reef nacelle
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Guys what is sire melk farming

viscid matrix
reef nacelle
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You can do them on multiple characters?

dawn wolf
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Yes

reef nacelle
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Is that just to farm blessings or something

viscid matrix
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sometimes melk has some good items in the shop

ebon jolt
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Do things like warp damage and damage from all sources affect soulblaze damage?

reef nacelle
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Are items and currencies shared between characters?

viscid matrix
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but also you can roll for random curios and get some good ones
it also bypasses the 2 per hour you can get in normal shop

viscid matrix
reef nacelle
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Thanks for your help friend may plasteel rain on you

limber heath
viscid matrix
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also i am fairly sure, you can create a new character do the weeklies then delete the character

limber heath
reef nacelle
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The plasteel grind in this game is really off putting

viscid matrix
reef nacelle
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I’m 28 hours in level 30 Psyker done a few auric damnations

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But the plasteel grind is sad

harsh urchin
viscid matrix
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not supposed to be able to have perfect gear within 30 hours of starting 😄

harsh urchin
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You're probably only using upgrading and not progressing in a way that feels good

limber heath
reef nacelle
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I just want to roll some other items lol

viscid matrix
ebon jolt
# viscid matrix yes

Thanks. Trying to decide between Perfect Timing and Empathetic Evasion for my purgatus build. I really want to take Perfect Timing but I keep running out of talent points.

reef nacelle
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I got this early on

spice veldt
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the grind is pretty real

reef nacelle
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But I’m trying to roll melee weapon and it’s sad

spice veldt
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took me >30 consecrations to get t4 warp flurry on voidstrike

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which I only managed with the plasteel bug at the time

reef nacelle
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Plasteel bug?

viscid matrix
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it was a bug where you could get all your platsteel back after spending it

spice veldt
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basically 80% of spent materials got refunded for whatever reason whenever you reentered the mourningstar, but that was fixed since

cold oasis
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t1 mission paying as much as any other

harsh urchin
cold oasis
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i would guess

harsh urchin
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Makes t3 much better

spice veldt
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true

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the range is less

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but still annoying for t4-only blessings

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i've been trying to grind a bloodthirsty illisi

ebon jolt
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At least on staves the blessing pool is small.

cold oasis
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didn't realize ie even had a perfect purgatus.

ebon jolt
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Force swords have so many blessings D:

reef nacelle
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The crafting system in this game is just bad

harsh urchin
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The crafting in this game does exactly whst the devs want it to do

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Which is force ppl to waste insane amounts of time for minor upgrades

reef nacelle
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Yeah but they could make it more player friendly and interactive

limber heath
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"force people"

reef nacelle
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Like make boss drop plasteel or something

harsh urchin
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Well that's the point lol they don't want it to be player friendly

limber heath
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you still don't need anywhere near perfect rolls on anything for it to hit most if not all of its breakpoints.

cold oasis
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I mean, the fucking crafting system of this game is trash

harsh urchin
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They want you to grind

reef nacelle
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Like I don’t mind the system, it could do with tweaks but don’t starve me of plasteel

viscid matrix
limber heath
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only real annoying thing about hte system to me is that the plasteel to diamantine ratio is the opposite of the ratio its consumed in lol

magic vessel
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Dump stat on chainsword?

harsh urchin
reef nacelle
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a lot? Lol

harsh urchin
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They doubled it at one point in march now

reef nacelle
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I don’t want to know what it was like before lol

harsh urchin
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From 300-400 per game to 700-800 per game

reef nacelle
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That sounds insane

clear heath
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yeah it used to be like 300 plasteel for damnation and heresy

limber heath
clear heath
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heresy used to be the best place to grind

long wharf
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Never forget that the lead designer at Fatshark said in an interview that he hated players that "min-max" gameplay.

reef nacelle
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But without min max what is the point of crafting items

viscid matrix
long wharf
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He likes to make things obfuscated or confusing on purpose

reef nacelle
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This is my first tide game

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Is fat shark a lazy ass dev

harsh urchin
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No they're just slow

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They actually make the right decisions in the long term

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And make the game better

frail geyser
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Its not designed well for folks running multiple characters

limber heath
reef nacelle
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I see they did a whole class rebalance recently

limber heath
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lack of shared equipment or what

reef nacelle
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What was it like before

sterile cipher
frail geyser
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Lack of shared equip and just how much currency is given

reef nacelle
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I was gonna buy this game on release last year but I saw the steam reviews and it was bad lol

clear heath
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every class only had 1 option for their blitz and ult

limber heath
clear heath
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now we have 3

proud mantle
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is there a smite build that doesn't make you feel like a stun support

clear heath
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no

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you will never make smite deal damage

limber heath
reef nacelle
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So they added assail recently?

clear heath
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yeah

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assail and smite are new

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brain burst used to be the only option

reef nacelle
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So the game had no talent tree?

frozen osprey
frail geyser
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The game was pretty ass tbh

limber heath
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the game had 6 choices of 3 talents where you get 1 in each choice

frail geyser
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Barely a step forward from vt2 design

frozen osprey
reef nacelle
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What was vermintide like?

frail geyser
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Huge step back in crafting ino

reef nacelle
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Does vermintide have a crafting system

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And talent system

frail geyser
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Yea items into dust colored by rarity

cold oasis
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Yes

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You could pretty much choose what talents and mods

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all of them.

frail geyser
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Items were the only crafting fuel

cold oasis
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And the weapons had no rollls

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just rarity

frail geyser
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Red items a tier above orange

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Still think this game needs reds

lethal folio
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Vermintide 1 each weapon just had a three blessing combo with rollable numbers.

frail geyser
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Esp with stat rolls being obnoxious

reef nacelle
frail geyser
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Reds got rid of rng

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Everything on a red was maxroll

slim lily
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What blessing is good for the duel sword

frail geyser
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Something similar would be core stat rolls influencing crafting rng

limber heath
slim lily
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Oki

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Is shred good?

limber heath
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oh yea shred exists too

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keep forgetting its on duellies

slim lily
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So it’s good for now?

limber heath
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you want uncanny

past locust
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How funny, I was going to ask about a dueling sword myself lol

slim lily
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Like this?

limber heath
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thas good

frozen osprey
slim lily
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Oki thanks

slim lily
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Mutants crashed me

frail geyser
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Its so wild that their gameplay is so good but they chain the player to timewasting rng put of fear

past locust
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well, mostly avoiding

slim lily
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Power sword mk5 was like the default choice before class rework

past locust
slim lily
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😦 just spent like 40k to get a good one

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But then realize it’s no longer good

past locust
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Powersword is still decent, it does the job it's meant to well and even uncharged is still nearly equivalent to the catachan swords

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devil's claw, that's the one lol

slim lily
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Rly? Maybe it just not pair well with purge staff then

past locust
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needs power cycler though

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Oh, think you're talking Force Swords. Ye they've died a bit of a death

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I never was a huge fan of the blaze sword, but it feels like hitting people with a foam bat now

azure fern
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Do i take?

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i'm a smite gun psyker

lethal folio
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pick up for dumdum but don't use these guns.

azure fern
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you can't stop me using guns to get enhanced psionics stacks

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also dumdum is the one i am USING

past locust
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Agreed there, not amazing either way but dumdum would be good on a better rolled gun

lethal folio
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By all means use the laspistol, just not these ones.

arctic citrus
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enhanced kind of sucks

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warp charge is better

azure fern
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which makes it cost 0 peril

arctic citrus
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oh i see int that case use away

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its just isint as good as charge with assail

atomic zephyr
azure fern
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do not mention that word here

spice veldt
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EP is fine if you want to invest into true aim

arctic citrus
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yandu darts go burr

azure fern
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i have a grudge against assail psykers for sucking the fun out of horde killing

past locust
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Enhanced is amazing with assail lol, spamming away and ruining everyone else in the lobby's game

spice veldt
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since warp siphon is a 9-point investment if you want to reach the 6 warp charge node

atomic zephyr
azure fern
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gonna go check what melkbucks will get me on other characters

past locust
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What does the Fire Frenzy trait do now? Its' decription is just plasceholder gibberish for me

spice veldt
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attack speed

past locust
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Just constant attack speed? A particular trigger?

cold oasis
craggy iris
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What is the best way to build the brain rupture tree? I can't seem to enjoy it compared to lightning hands 😦

azure fern
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i do play auric

cold oasis
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Just use EP if you want to go full BB

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but again, it's pretty shit now compared to the other options

craggy iris
cold oasis
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ye

neon mauve
craggy iris
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Is ep the best purple tree for all the subclasses

cold oasis
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no?

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Warp Charges is probably the overall best

past locust
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Warp charges (leftmost one) is great if you want something more generally useful imo.

neon mauve
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I go for more middle for the damage mainly

unkempt juniper
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I don't like that they made the skill trees so hard to talk about

craggy iris
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Oh, I tried it, but wasn't haven't a great time with it, what skill do you use with it? Shield, forcepush or gaze?

past locust
unkempt juniper
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How do you use scriers gaze exactly

cold oasis
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you really don't

unkempt juniper
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Is it just to be used with not staffs?

harsh urchin
craggy iris
cold oasis
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the vent has 1 thing going for it

harsh urchin
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If you want something more simple i recommend Diablo 4

cold oasis
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you can use it if you're at 100% peril and exploding

past locust
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Otherwise stabbing people works too

neon mauve
unique mist
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you reckon dome or stun barrier is better

past locust
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The vent is also useful as an emergency button. Saved a lot of runs/downed people with a little surge and venting

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And myself from dogs lol

unkempt juniper
spice veldt
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the one case where dome is outright more useful is for monstrosity maelstroms cuz of the bonbon

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i very much dislike corridor sections with bonbons

past locust
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I've found the barrier to be incredibly buggy and not block bullets properly, so I tend to go dome

spice veldt
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though i suppose I would just play zealot if I wanted to go for monstrosity maelstrom

leaden mica
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has anyone noticed this creepy voice in the distance while playing? sometimes it says like; “now my little one…”, not sure if its voices in the psykers head or not

cyan notch
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it is yea

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i think it plays that when you quell

leaden mica
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im so glad this is the case

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my brother (veteran/zealot) thought i officially lost my mind lmao

spice veldt
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no you sound pretty insane to me

leaden mica
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i kept going every match for 2 weeks like; yo dont you hear that voice in the distance?

frail geyser
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Devs are just old probably

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Time punishment makes choices more meaningful they think

olive ember
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What voice?

unkempt juniper
marsh tulip
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whats our best staff atm?

keen pawn
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are demonhosts just psykers that succumbed to the warp?

severe folio
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depend

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well demonhost can also just be regular human i believe

keen pawn
past parrot
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anyone know what the ideal blessings are for Void staff?

copper oar
copper oar
severe folio
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i think faster charge and peril crit is good for voidstrike

severe folio
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wait

native topaz
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I’m starting to play psyker from my ogryn and good lord am I having a moment adjusting how brittle I am

severe folio
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what does that surge mean

spice veldt
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second ball on crit

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including the RMB

severe folio
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so

spice veldt
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so, imagine that with a certain talent on the skill tree

severe folio
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whenever it crit it count as doubling the damage

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again

spice veldt
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it shoots out a second projectile

severe folio
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oh

limber heath
severe folio
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oh i see

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hmm

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but it still traveling right

keen pawn
severe folio
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doesnt that mean it can still miss

limber heath
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i.e. if you shoot a bullet, it decides if you crit and then any enemy that bullet hits will be a crit (idk if there's exceptions to this since there's some weird crit related talents)

spice veldt
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ye it comes out after a slight delay so that can happen

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but psyker gets deterministic crits now to it ees what it ees

severe folio
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i see

keen pawn
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it's such a large projectile, hard to miss against a crowd or large enemies.

severe folio
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the blast radius is how big the projectile is right ?

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or the actual blast radius of the impact

spice veldt
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both

severe folio
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oh

spice veldt
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but it's not too impactful overall

keen pawn
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blast radius does insignificant damage really

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it's just for knockback

native topaz
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Does this advice still hold? Or do toughness perks change this

spice veldt
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since the projectile has a cleave limit so there's not much point in the scaling for the epicentre

spice veldt
native topaz
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So better to go health in your opinion?

severe folio
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oh the projectile has a cleave limit

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i didnt know that

spice veldt
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I'm a toughness stan, but I would take at least one hp curio if playing optimally

keen pawn
spice veldt
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yeah, 12 cleave (patch notes say 10, but that's a lie)

severe folio
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huh

spice veldt
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so since poxwalkers have 1.5 hitmass, you can hit 8 of em

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psyker shits out toughness nowadays, so not taking any toughness is whatever

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in addition to the shield ult

native topaz
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I find I don’t t need the wounds as of yet but the health may help. I find Ihave a hard time adjusting to not fall like a sack of shit when things start getting hairy haha. Oggy has me conditioned

severe folio
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i like the 3 stamina curio

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so i have that and health and a toughness one

keen pawn
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the worst things you usually have to worry about is the surprise gunners.

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so I take gunner damage resist on all three curios

spice veldt
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some enemies dealing >100 base melee damage also adds a certain threshold beyond which stacking toughness is useful for melee

severe folio
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they should change the server’s banner into a zealot

spice veldt
keen pawn
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the best is when you dodge

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but latency says

viscid matrix
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tbh i prefer health over touughness stacking curios

keen pawn
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I wouldn't stack toughness, but if I could, I would have at least one probably. Maybe.

viscid matrix
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i like having 278hp, im still 3% short on max

clear heath
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I've been running 2 toughness 1 hp curios

spice veldt
#

prob stack toughness as side perks at least

viscid matrix
#

i like being able to take a crusher slam and live

keen pawn
#

basically, as long as you have damage resist against the assholes that strip your toughness over time, you're good.

ivory cloak
#

Is this a decent surge staff?

viscid matrix
#

pog, time to log in and grab that melks illisi

keen pawn
#

this is my go to

viscid matrix
#

we can get 21% max health now, its just rare as hell

clear heath
#

smh imagine not having ordo dockets on all your curios

past locust
#

Riposte vs Precognition for Mk 2 dueling sword?

spice veldt
#

mmm i like both

past locust
#

So do I haha

empty swan
#

hello! sorry to bother Im wondering as a new player, should u prioritize dmg or stats? like this example , what should I pick?

viscid matrix
past locust
#

Using uncanny as well atm, which makes me lean toward precog but I've currently got riposte on mine and changing that would make me unable to change anything else

past locust
viscid matrix
past locust
#

So not terribly helpful

empty swan
#

cause one says 28% dmg but the other says 50% dmg but the light and heavy attack are different... so im at lost

spice veldt
#

the deimos's first light deals 2x damage than the normal lights

viscid matrix
native topaz
severe folio
#

the melk currency share across all characters right

keen pawn
#

every currency

viscid matrix
severe folio
#

oh

#

that mean

viscid matrix
#

they changed that a while back

keen pawn
#

it only took them a year to listen to the community

empty swan
#

as a psyker is any of those 2 good melee weapons or should I go for duelist?

severe folio
#

every week you get to farm the contract on 4 characters

native topaz
viscid matrix
empty swan
#

so should I keep my currency from contracts till I reach lv 30?

viscid matrix
keen pawn
empty swan
#

also should I upgrade my stuff or wait till lv 30?

severe folio
past locust
keen pawn
severe folio
#

actually the mk4 feels vastly different from other dueling sword

spice veldt
severe folio
#

at least i feel a difference compare to other dueling swords

empty swan
#

thanks for the info

past locust
#

like, radically different?

spice veldt
#

because it's the only duelling sword that got properly buffed

severe folio
#

uhh

viscid matrix
severe folio
#

perhaps not wildly different blessing

spice veldt
#

you'll notice that the numbers on the MK2 don't match the patch notes

severe folio
#

or trait

#

but definitely preferred over other dueling swords

#

first and foremost

empty swan
#

OH ALSO last question, My psyker abilities deal more dmg based on the dmg of my weapons? or is a fixed dmg?

severe folio
#

depend on where that damage come from

empty swan
#

for example I usee the assail can I upgrade the dmg?

severe folio
#

nope

spice veldt
severe folio
#

thats on the psyker

viscid matrix
viscid matrix
severe folio
#

wow

#

thats gotta be bugged right #

keen pawn
viscid matrix
past locust
empty swan
severe folio
spice veldt
keen pawn
severe folio
#

it got a buff in this patch right ?

past locust
spice veldt
#

o he's a playtester

severe folio
#

crab

past locust
#

Ah cool

empty swan
#

oh sry, I keep asking questions but, how do u know you are prepared to advance to next difficulty? currently im at Malice, and heresy is a bit strong for me :S

keen pawn
#

that's it, no more.

#

lol

olive ember
#

Tada next difficulty

#

This is why I only play malice

empty swan
#

ill wait till refresh :v

olive ember
viscid matrix
spice veldt
#

my strategy was to bash my head into the difficulties to test it out

empty swan
#

ill just quick play malice till lv 30 I guess hehehe

keen pawn
#

yeah malice can still be rough depending on the modifier.

olive ember
#

Bullshit then why do I get matched with lvl 22’s in hi 5 shock

past locust
keen pawn
#

honestly one day I had such awful luck while leveling up, no single rando could even do malice, so I had to back to tier 2.

#

people would just fold instantly

cyan notch
empty swan
#

from what I seen you cant increase your armor only your weapons

#

right?¡

severe folio
#

i been stay relative in malice

keen pawn
olive ember
#

I am strongest player

#

Best player even

spice veldt
severe folio
#

but yesterday i was recommended to try damnation for money and resources

#

and i did 2 of them quite fine

formal acorn
#

What are the good and bad blaze force swords?

empty swan
olive ember
#

Damnation will give you more resources on average yes

cyan notch
severe folio
#

(the first damnation had me dying 6 time but the difficulty is probably on the people that has to rescue me)

olive ember
#

Assuming you aren’t losing every single on

#

Tbf I trial by fire a bunch of times

past locust
olive ember
#

Like I went from malice to Damnation and I was fine

#

Okay I did do every mission on heresy first

#

So I lied

brisk agate
#

What blessings do I want on Surge, warp flurry and warp nexus if i'm going for soulblaze stacks?

ebon jolt
#

Ideal Mk5 combat axe blessings?

severe folio
#

i notice most of the concern was from the sudden horde

#

and how fast they chew through us

#

i was going with illisis first so it wasn’t that much of a scary run

olive ember
#

Gotta learn how to dodge horde attacks and uh

severe folio
#

the second run though was with the mk4 dueling

olive ember
past locust
#

People jumping from lower diffs tend to have the issue that they really ignored the whole 'blocking and dodging' side of the game lol

past locust
#

It can be a rude awakening

keen pawn
#

LOOK AT MY ARMOR STATS

empty swan
#

mine doesnt say that Oo

keen pawn
#

lol

#

i'm just trolling man

mossy sundial
#

how am i supposed to not be resource poor in this game?

empty swan
#

oh jaja

keen pawn
keen pawn
#

wow i have a little bit

mossy sundial
#

:C

olive ember
empty swan
#

are all classes balanced or there are classes that are better atm?

teal needle
keen pawn
olive ember
#

Basically you are always resource poor

#

I have 600k dockets 8k diamantine and like 200 plasteel

keen pawn
teal needle
severe folio
#

mah i rhink zealot is quite a cut above

#

the rest

keen pawn
#

they're not, for a couple of reasons

golden frigate
keen pawn
#

zealots are great, but they're not OP

golden frigate
#

but I wouldnt say it's stronger than ogryn or psyker

desert snow
#

just waiting for smite fix so I don't have to play in 3 man squads anymore

severe folio
#

thats not a reason you just paraphase what you said

past locust
#

Speaking as someone who's wanted to really love psyker since release and only kind of just enjoyed it once in a while, psyker is a little ridiculous now

#

I actually really love it

keen pawn
#

I prefer to play psyker when its not the flavor of the month

olive ember
#

Zealot has boss damage with the thammer

#

And uh

#

Yeah

keen pawn
#

when people play psyker just because of assail, it sucks

severe folio
#

whats the smite fix that make you play 3 men squad

past locust
#

Used to play the most off-meta vet builds I could think of, but now everyone and their mother is either a pure assail or surge psyker

severe folio
#

whats wrong with it

past locust
#

both are so annoying

severe folio
#

dang

keen pawn
#

so smite is both the most overpowered thing in the game and the most underpowered thing in the game simultaneously.

empty swan
past locust
#

when the person does nothing but use those abilities

olive ember
#

Empowered pscionics is bugged with smite where smite doesn’t use peril

severe folio
#

i love the current surge staff unfortunately

olive ember
#

Which lets you infinite cast it

severe folio
#

yeah

#

that bug exist im aware

#

i use it

keen pawn
#

because you can ignore 100% of your gear

#

since you only need assail

#

for most groups

severe folio
#

oh shoot thats true

#

wait what did fatshark thought when they gave psyker that

normal radish
#

Farming for Surge on Voidstrike feels futile

severe folio
#

well

keen pawn
#

the thought part that is

severe folio
#

its a convenient horde tool

#

on a class that dont have a lot of that at start

keen pawn
#

they probably saw guardians of the galaxy again and were like "hey you know what would be neat..."

severe folio
#

(maybe too convenient)

empty swan
past locust
#

Assail can delete hordes of everything that isn't carapace armoured up to damnation. It's pretty silly

severe folio
#

if they saw guardian of the galaxy then we wouldnt be spamming assail

keen pawn
severe folio
#

it just gonna be 1 assail shard but it travel infinitely and go through walls

keen pawn
#

assail

severe folio
#

modify assail to through 1 shard but it can homing to all enemy and cost peril base on enemies it hit

#

make it the true yondu arrow

empty swan
#

what I really love about this game, is, the fact that is showing me how the hive worlds looks like ❤️ it expands a lot imagination

severe folio
#

the hive world need a bit more normal habitants i think

wind spruce
#

testing it in solo play and psykhanium rn, but anyone else noticed that the +damage for each second in scrier's gaze doesnt apply until AFTER you've hit 100% peril and the main "mode" you're in finishes. it doesnt "linger" after starting it doesnt even apply until lingering happens lmfao

severe folio
#

al the time now it just look like its infested with dead people

#

so the whole place doesnt really look like a city

ornate hamlet
#

Warp damage means any magic attack?

severe folio
#

yeah

ornate hamlet
#

Thank you.

empty swan
severe folio
#

any attack that increase your peril

keen pawn
steel flame
severe folio
#

every location are just a death box instead of an actual dystopian city

#

unless thats how it is in the imperium

keen pawn
#

Hope they add another character in a few months

royal falcon
empty swan
#

ah btw there is something I just dont understand

#

WHY HAVENT I HEAR YET DISPOSAL UNIT soundtrack???}

royal falcon
keen pawn
severe folio
#

maybe you need to do more boss fight

royal falcon
severe folio
#

actually a sniping class would be cool

#

not veteran

keen pawn
#

imagine playing as one of those robotic dudes

steel flame
#

I want my rattling class

royal falcon
#

playing as a.. servitor?

keen pawn
#

yes

#

but with a mind of their own

keen pawn
#

yeah you wish

royal falcon
#

I do pensiv

keen pawn
#

these guys are trying too hard to be lore accurate, so they'd never jail a ratling

royal falcon
#

surprised they'd jail an unsanctioned psyker

#

aint that what the black ships are for

steel flame
#

I need to be able to play as this fat shark. ITS AN EASY WIN GODDAMIT

keen pawn
#

would it be a out of the question if they jail a space marine? I'm sure someone will pull something out of their butt and start speaking lore like "technically there is no jailing a space marine, it's just death"

royal falcon
keen pawn
#

iono

steel flame
keen pawn
#

I wanna play an ork

royal falcon
#

ok but like

#

a mechanicus class would go hard

keen pawn
#

right

#

just don't give us another fucking regular human

#

give them mechanical parts and shit

viscid matrix
#

mechanicus would be the logical next class

steel flame
keen pawn
#

or maybe a human that is like... half-infected, but stopped it somehow.

warm ruin
#

we are so fucked.

keen pawn
keen pawn
warm ruin
#

ima be honest

#

im not a big fan of assail

keen pawn
#

neither am I

viscid matrix
#

Assail is shit cause its op right now

royal falcon
keen pawn
#

like I love the concept of assail, and I love what it does. But I don't like how it ruins the fun for everyone else.

#

assail

#

everyone else ^

warm ruin
#

because honestly one of these guys being assail can easily carry everyone here

royal falcon
#

me when there's an assail psyker

viscid matrix
#

i play assail, cause otherwise i have to rely on shit players

royal falcon
#

god forbid a person isn't god-tier at the game

steel flame
severe folio
#

next patch theyll make psyker spawn daemonhost at 100 peril above

keen pawn
#

to be fair as well, I have played with two assail psykers, and they both folded instantly at any sign of trouble. So having assail does not make you a good player automatically.

severe folio
#

to balance out all the warp attack

warm ruin
#

i don't play assail because it seems too good to be fun

royal falcon
#

.
HEY WAIT A SECOND

#

darktide versus mode

viscid matrix
steel flame
keen pawn
#

give us*

severe folio
#

i dont think theyll give that as a class

#

at most an outfit

royal falcon
#

steampunk ass gun

severe folio
#

but how would they make one for orgyn

#

do skitarii also randomly shoot their weapon to make sure its always hot and not turned off

keen pawn
severe folio
steel flame
royal falcon
severe folio
formal acorn
#

Assail drops off hard at the level 4 missions

steel flame
#

Still technically human but just sorta kinda

severe folio
#

what is level 4

royal falcon
#

heresy ig

severe folio
#

oh

formal acorn
#

Ya heresy

#

Still learning the names

severe folio
#

thats unfortunate

full bane
keen pawn
#

it's still good

#

even in 4

hardy coral
#

not a bad Staff. nodders

steel flame
severe folio
#

is the devil claw mk vii good ?

formal acorn
#

@steel flame correct

formal acorn
#

That's why people die so fast they rely on it to much

steel flame
#

It's amazing in auric damnation as a quick swap weapon

severe folio
#

does orgyn actually exist in kriege corp

steel flame
#

The stagger and auto aim for killing pesky stuff is great

royal falcon
severe folio
#

good invest ?

royal falcon
#

mobility SUCK

severe folio
#

oh shit thats true

#

fukkk

dawn wolf
#

Brunt? Why not, dockets come easy

steel flame
severe folio
#

what about this bad boy

keen pawn
#

100% assail users be like

rich surge
#

how come the voidstrike staff is so widely used?

ornate hamlet
#

Because it's nutty

keen pawn
full bane
#

Because it’s busted

ornate hamlet
#

Goated, even

#

🐐

keen pawn
#

and every other staff by comparison to it are garbage

steel flame
#

They overturned the fuck out of it

#

Damage is not really what it needed

#

Needed better blessings

severe folio
#

infantry autogun is decnt for damnation horde managing ?

#

or should i stick to core purpose and get something to take care of specials

keen pawn
#

uhh

#

are we talking psyker?

steel flame
keen pawn
#

i'd never use a gun on psyker

dawn wolf
severe folio
steel flame
severe folio
steel flame
severe folio
#

oh

#

why call it gunker that sound horrible lol

dawn wolf
steel flame
#

Deal

severe folio
dawn wolf
severe folio
#

what i have is this

#

feels very nice in hand

dawn wolf
#

I haven't really played with the guns outside psykanium and grinding out levels so I honestly dunno. If it kills fast, it is good. If it does not, it is bad.

small whale
#

when are they gonna buff assail it uses too much mana

keen pawn
#

lol

severe folio
#

what do you guys think about disrupt destiny

#

that whole tree

steel flame
#

I want more people to join my laspistol cult and become the crit wizards. It's so much fun running around with 160% movement speed with crit immunity to ranged damage and the ability to melt anything in your path

severe folio
#

i want to use the lasgun but i like the feeling on autogun more

#

though the benefits, im pretty sure lasgun should outclass it widely

ornate hamlet
#

Disrupt destiny is pretty mid

steel flame
severe folio
#

interesting

ornate hamlet
#

You get better utility from warp charges and they still provide damage

steel flame
#

Booo

#

BORING

ornate hamlet
steel flame
#

Ive spent an entire year with warp charges as my only option

#

IM DONE BEING A WARP CHARGE SLAVE

keen pawn
#

more for me

proven forge
#

anyone got a decent lvl 20 build?

viscid matrix
keen pawn
proven forge
steel flame
#

The more I hear this the more I want them to cut assail ammo to 3-4

severe folio
#

i have this lasgun pistol

#

and warp charge does seem like its easier to give damage

#

but like

dawn wolf
severe folio
#

i dont know

steel flame
#

This is my old build

#

Haven't screenshotted my new one

#

Will share that one later

severe folio
#

thank you

steel flame
#

I can dm it to you

#

It's a lot better

severe folio
#

with how that is set up i assume the pistol purpose is

#

special units ?

severe folio
steel flame
#

You can abuse the crit dodge with it to the point where gunners, shotgunners, reapers and snipers are just trivialized

severe folio
#

i see

#

the scrier gaze

ashen schooner
#

boy I love watching pyskers try to assail bosses and mutie instead of using their voidstrike

burnt island
#

Lol. The two zealots were kind of just watching us do our thing. Smite in combination with assail and 2x shield walls is funny.

severe folio
#

is it needed

spice veldt
#

only crack cocaine users (like zazy) use scrier's gaze

keen pawn
steel flame
#

I use it to kill armor, specials, elites ragers, and scabs shooters, assail for trash mobs and setting up kills with stun. Scrier and laspistol will be your boss danafe

keen pawn
#

I like how compact it is

severe folio
#

i see

spice veldt
#

crit is pretty significant on laspistol at least

severe folio
#

i found scrier gaze a bit rough to use

steel flame
#

It's a learning curve

#

I'll dm you my stuff and how I play when I get off work

severe folio
#

ok

steel flame
#

In about 45 minutes

burnt island
keen pawn
#

jk

burnt island
#

Lol you almost gaslit me into thinking there was an RTX setting for it.

keen pawn
#

let me get on and check the settings

steel flame
keen pawn
severe folio
#

good invest ?

#

or is this not the model i should be looking for in a horde manager

viscid matrix
#

Illlisi is the horde killing melee weapon

severe folio
#

dang

#

i was strictly looking for devil claw

viscid matrix
#

for a devil claw its alright

severe folio
#

to supplement variety in my arsenal

#

i see

keen pawn
#

on the scoreboard, how exactly do you interpret critical rate?

#

it just gives a number, is that a percent of all hits

#

or what

viscid matrix
#

no idea, would have to go ask the mod creator

true lake
#

i assume its a percentage based on how often you got crits with weakspot hits

#

but idk

keen pawn
#

yeah I don't know how to read it

unique mist
#

like that shows you hit 39 weakspots with your melee and got 9 crits

#

i think, anyways

#

other scoreboard examples instead say "critical hits dealt"

elder rain
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

keen pawn
#

which one is that again

#

weakspot and critical damage on dodge?

#

it's alright

true lake
#

i think, i know it was something about dodging

keen pawn
#

that's what I have on mine

#

it's not the best

true lake
#

shred is ok

#

i dont like things that proc on dodge too much, mainly because i hate dodging a lot

narrow crane
viscid matrix
desert snow
#

Hey guys has anyone else noticed that the wildfire trait is bugged to apply unscaled stacks?

viscid matrix
true lake
#

with uncanny does it apply the rending to that weakspot hit or just hits after that weakspot hit?

narrow crane
#

the ideal application for the dodge blessing is disablers, but you're usually taking them out with ranged anyway

viscid matrix
narrow crane
#

yea I think it's 2s

viscid matrix
#

it lasts just long enough to chain full power heavy attacks

narrow crane
#

yea, I just run shred and uncanny

lapis kraken
#

which should i get?

ornate hamlet
lapis kraken
#

im thinking overpowering souls

narrow crane
ornate hamlet
#

There was a crit thing that worked like that in Vermintide 2, but maybe not here

narrow crane
#

you're killing elites constantly in damnation

lapis kraken
#

ya thats what i figured

#

assail -> kinetic presence -> venting shriek -> empowered psionics
i think my build is looking pretty good

narrow crane
#

yup that is certainly one of the builds of all time

lapis kraken
#

well thats cause im one of the players of all time

#

duh

narrow crane
#

:]

#

I just lost a brutal game right at the end cus of some dumb shit

#

im fucking HEATED

lapis kraken
#

aint that the story of our lives

narrow crane
#

I wanted that win so bad

mighty fractal
#

good lord

narrow crane
#

for the level 25 who went down 13 times

lapis kraken
#

im constantly the last one downed any time im in a rando game

mighty fractal
#

what the hell is this abomination

lapis kraken
#

sorry thats me

#

im the abomination

mighty fractal
#

It legit takes like 3 seconds to reach max radius lmao

#

I'm keeping it just for the memes

#

but man

narrow crane
#

yeah

#

gambling is so fun

lapis kraken
#

i dont tend to use staffs in my psyker build

#

i would rather use all my peril towards my blitz

#

and switch to gun when im out of charges

narrow crane
#

that

#

is one of the choices of all time

mighty fractal
#

However

#

is this worth investing into

lapis kraken
#

its the best choice

#

if you like staffs

severe folio
#

i would say there are better trauma

#

at least for me

#

all the armory been showing me is 370 trauma staff

#

even though i need a purgatus

atomic zephyr
lapis kraken
#

i need me a hand canon so i can be the lone psyker
get me that big iron

mighty fractal
#

Slow fire rate huge damage revolver mark when

regal musk
mighty fractal
#

I'd take that

#

I also want a force dagger

#

Maybe in 2025...

severe folio
#

force axe

regal musk
#

One day we'll get more force weapons in general ... The stupid thing is that they have a ton of Sienna staves they could convert over

narrow crane
#

I usually run trauma anyway

mighty fractal
#

I don't think FS wants a repeat of the Corusc staff, as much as we'd want it

lapis kraken
#

in the town of Branx Magna rode a psyker one fine day

mighty fractal
#

But yes we do at least need the beam staff over here

molten schooner
#

what are the dump stats on the illisi?

regal musk
mighty fractal
#

It's her 'newest' staff (well, until the Necro gets its Assail staff this week)

#

It lets her create three fire columns on the ground that persist for a while

#

And it also has a shotgun spread primary attack

#

It's stupid good

severe folio
#

the rogue trader outfit and that cowboy hat makes a nice duelist psyker

lapis kraken
#

yall think assail is gonna get nerfed?

mighty fractal
#

You just drop fire puddles onto enemy spawn points and clear hordes

severe folio
#

asail will get nerfed

mighty fractal
#

And then you get to 1-2shot maulers in Cata+

lapis kraken
#

that saddens me

mighty fractal
#

and any unarmored specials at close range

narrow crane
#

very bad on sedition and lower

lapis kraken
narrow crane
#

needs a huge buff

lapis kraken
#

assail too weak
needs buff

molten schooner
#

pls

lapis kraken
#

🤷‍♂️

molten schooner
#

I believe it's mobility but unsure lol

narrow crane
#

mobility

#

and warp res

#

everything else pump those numbers up

mossy sundial
#

you guys are so lucky with your rolls wtf

regal musk
# mighty fractal It's stupid good

Yeah sounds like lol
if we cant have more staves i at least would like to see the stave special switched to actual special attack instead of that useless stick smack.
In the time it takes for it to go off, you can swap to your melee and bonk the target anyway XD

molten schooner