#psyker-class
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is empathetic evasion good i dont understand the skill
I started playing 4 hours ago...
saltydwarf moment
if that all allows you to do well with Psyker
then may be you should not be throwing such strong opinions lol
I only go off of what I see on Youtube etc. I informed myself a bit of the situation before buying. 😄
most of youtubers are idiots
well pre-patch psyker did have some clear weaknesses tbf
The consensus I found was that Assail and Voidstrike are super strong, and the notion seems similar here. So not sure where I am so wrong.
1 psykinetic’s wrath = 1 crusher like if yuo agree
1 psykinetic’s wrath = 1 plague ogryn
just a shame other players havent picked up on the fact that they need to help kill while the psyker stun locks lol
No. BB is a secondary used to clear distance stuff/gunners/bosses paired with a staff that you use for big work. Smite is a wide area CC skill that also is secondary to a staff. They’re both good and entirely usable
Assail is weird for being an alternative to your other weapons
oh no your sound effect for the lightning 🤣
are you fuckn serious
ogryn and zealot were both bad
Psyker was fuckn crazy
he hadbest melee
Good for zee psyker?
yeah looks great
with purg the dmg stat doesnt matter too much, since we rely on exponential stacking of burn
is savage sweep or wrath better on chain sword? if both was t4
tru, melee is the only way to evaluate a class's performance
these okay for a starter dueling
also, you know that psyker was in a good state when your first thought about pre-patch psyker was their melee
And purgatus did not exist, sure /s
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here's a true duo with ogryn and psyker
Because having best melee on mage-type class in silly
there very specific loadouts for both ogryn and psyker that were incredibly strong
He outclassed zealot
what are ya'lls relics/curios?
never been a fan of all the “best X” comparison because its mostly just questionable opinions
and to echo your own opinions, I'm not going to listen to garbage opinions from somebody with at least less than half of my playtime pre-patch
to say ogryn and zealot were flat out bad is to just be willfully ignorant of how the game works and the disparities between classes
if you ignore everything good about them, then they're pretty bad
zealot had literally infinite survivability with holy rev which mattered a lot for situations where there are ❤️ players
what
why is that a hard
heart
oh less than 3
lol
lmao
lmao
Censorship strikes again!
you don't even know my play time lol
so fuckin tired i didnt realize what that was lol
as far as I can tell, you started playing psyker in march
but yeah really even moreso with darktide lots of the opinions are just skill issue
and I was around for when you began psyker, where you remarked on "posers" who dared to play a class that wasn't their first
The entire vet chat is a skill issue
that other class I dont play beyond getting it to 30 is shit is beyond common take
im inclined to believe saltydwarf's opinion isnt that credible considering he's the guy who said you can't hit elites in a mixed horde with crucis
and when i provided evidence to the contrary he just didnt respond
people who've only played one class creating the shittiest opinions to be shared 😔
I’ve been watching vet chat go on for hours a day since the patch constantly arguing whether vet is better or worse than it was pre patch
they are the type of people who somehow make me have to defend brain burst
Smokes OP
i remember this very well
lol watching vet chat has been great entertainment
its about the same, but with more options than just click heads
salty dwarf was playing psyker for idk 1 or 3 weeks
then was like yeah, damn all these new psykers lol
That alone would start a debate there lol
there are legitimate issues with the vet tree but theres also a million goddamn whiners
I had to fight people for my lovely Smoke nade
mad that the class that was the mostly blatantly overpowered for almost a year isn't in that slot anymore
lots of vets just arent used to not being the hurr durr most OP class in game
like, legitimate issue with the tree rn
The fucking 25% thoughness on elite kill (what i would consider a 100% pick all the time), is like 5 down at the bottom
but the amount of copium is real
Can I fish for Surge on random shit blues or can it only pop up on Transcendant?
Yeah it’s not perfect, nothing is, but dang they can whine and have some of the oddest takes sometimes
its more likely on gold but very rarely u can get a usable t4 blessing on a blue
F
I mean, Psyker is great because you can mix and match everything with ease
I really wanna graft it onto this new staff but i don't have it yet
Yeah some stuff is better than other, but you can pick everything
Zealot and Vet tree are honestly horrible
Vet got everything good at the end, Zealot everything good at the start
I think zealot has a better tree, but that tree really makes you pick between hard tradeoffs
I fucking despise Zealot tree
The thoughness DR being 4 deep at the start over the knife
Vet’s a lot more about focusing on what you want to specialize in it feels
makes it feel more shit to put things together since you feel like you’re missing crap
makes you pick knife like 99% of the time, due to how good that talent is
Same for the Immunity to Melee (and ranged) attacks
being 2 deep on Loner
I do at least find it interesting from like, a developer perspective that they didn’t just make one tree layout and swap the skills around for each class
yeah that one is so annoying
And that's something you need to pick every time.
Cool to see the devs experimenting like that even if reception is mixed
but again I’m beyond pissed they locked all warp things behind siphon
I mean, honestly, just switch two three "class defying talents" around
and all the trees would be fine
Like, another example is Ogryn
If you go gun Ogryn, you can't go Heavy Attack ogryn
because you can't take the bleed on heavy with the gun ability
Is the penance "Power Up" bugged?
Ahhh, yeah that'd explain it. Thanks.
honestly looks like it's on purpose, like obviously they don't want you to excel at melee and ranged on the same build
I get it, really, but it feels weird after playing psyker that can do EVERYTHING he wants, you have to choose builds with ogryn
i think wrath is better than Savage sweep on chain sword
The real question is why didn’t they put the Warp Siphon keystone in the middle so the tree could be symmetrical
even with the chained hit condition?
I just saw a psyker deleting everything, even crushers almost instantly with surge staff, how?
it fixes a lot of breakpoints for it
Surge deals insane damage now
it's like void, but for two targets
Surge was reworked with patch 13 and does an assload of single target damage
But also still deletes hordes?
No
you sure he wasn't just using Assail? 
something else is doing the horde deletioin
Dont think so
maybe he was using Smite+Voidstrike then?
surge only hits two targets, so it's not deleting hordes any time soon
I mean he can’t have void staff, and if it was assail I woulda noticed
did they have Venting Shriek?
yes
you wont always get 3 enemies in 1 heavy swingand swinging heavy leaves you open to a horde smacking around you
nah it does great damage single target
the secondary target takes like 20% of the damage that the primary does
Frankly you can still build gunlugger to be a melee champ even without that
Yeah I know but bleed and its synergies would be cherry on top
Big fat crits
Crit hard with surge is big delete
i have 1 with t4 bleed, just need it to deal with hordes better, tried both wrath and savage sweep, wrath is better imo, SS triggers with 3, so i need to heavy swing, leaves me a bit open in between hits, some times i swing heavy and dont hit 3 targets either. Wrath stacks and eventually you go from 2 targets to 3-4 targets, makes it better for horde, as long as you're dancing and dodging, its better.
this one slaps
with a t4 wrath, i'd chop even quick i think
Guys what is sire melk farming
doing the weeklies
You can do them on multiple characters?
Yes
Is that just to farm blessings or something
sometimes melk has some good items in the shop
Do things like warp damage and damage from all sources affect soulblaze damage?
Are items and currencies shared between characters?
but also you can roll for random curios and get some good ones
it also bypasses the 2 per hour you can get in normal shop
currencies are shared
items are not
Thanks for your help friend may plasteel rain on you
yes
blessings you've saved are also shared between characters
also i am fairly sure, you can create a new character do the weeklies then delete the character
you have to hit T11 to do weeklies so that would be quite the grind for like 1-2k melk bucks lol
The plasteel grind in this game is really off putting
considering its only like an hour or 2 to get the weeklies done from 1, it is a good way to do it 😄
I’m 28 hours in level 30 Psyker done a few auric damnations
But the plasteel grind is sad
You are trying to progress incorrectly probably then
not supposed to be able to have perfect gear within 30 hours of starting 😄
You're probably only using upgrading and not progressing in a way that feels good
hitting level 11 is like... 3-4 missions no? and thats just to unlock weeklies, then you also have to do them. maybe if you have a group of good players to play with and aren't queueing randoms. or i guess if its specifically assail psyker.
I just want to roll some other items lol
assail psyker is the best to do it with, since it doesnt rely on weapons at all
Thanks. Trying to decide between Perfect Timing and Empathetic Evasion for my purgatus build. I really want to take Perfect Timing but I keep running out of talent points.
I got this early on
the grind is pretty real
But I’m trying to roll melee weapon and it’s sad
took me >30 consecrations to get t4 warp flurry on voidstrike
which I only managed with the plasteel bug at the time
Plasteel bug?
it was a bug where you could get all your platsteel back after spending it
basically 80% of spent materials got refunded for whatever reason whenever you reentered the mourningstar, but that was fixed since
t1 mission paying as much as any other
Latest rebalance helps a lot i think
i would guess
Makes t3 much better
true
the range is less
but still annoying for t4-only blessings
i've been trying to grind a bloodthirsty illisi
At least on staves the blessing pool is small.
didn't realize ie even had a perfect purgatus.
Force swords have so many blessings D:
The crafting system in this game is just bad
Ah yeah that one i nabbed a while back
The crafting in this game does exactly whst the devs want it to do
Which is force ppl to waste insane amounts of time for minor upgrades
Yeah but they could make it more player friendly and interactive
Like make boss drop plasteel or something
Well that's the point lol they don't want it to be player friendly
you still don't need anywhere near perfect rolls on anything for it to hit most if not all of its breakpoints.
I mean, the fucking crafting system of this game is trash
They want you to grind
Like I don’t mind the system, it could do with tweaks but don’t starve me of plasteel
at least you have it, at launch we didnt have it at all
only real annoying thing about hte system to me is that the plasteel to diamantine ratio is the opposite of the ratio its consumed in lol
Dump stat on chainsword?
The funny thing is that you get a lot of plasteel now lol
a lot? Lol
They doubled it at one point in march now
I don’t want to know what it was like before lol
From 300-400 per game to 700-800 per game
That sounds insane
yeah it used to be like 300 plasteel for damnation and heresy
600-800* per mission is pretty good. 2 missions to take from profaned -> orange
heresy used to be the best place to grind
Never forget that the lead designer at Fatshark said in an interview that he hated players that "min-max" gameplay.
But without min max what is the point of crafting items
guess they are a casual noob then
He likes to make things obfuscated or confusing on purpose
No they're just slow
They actually make the right decisions in the long term
And make the game better
Its not designed well for folks running multiple characters
wdym by this?
I see they did a whole class rebalance recently
lack of shared equipment or what
What was it like before

Lack of shared equip and just how much currency is given
I was gonna buy this game on release last year but I saw the steam reviews and it was bad lol
every class only had 1 option for their blitz and ult
very linear class design, and everythings power level was low
now we have 3
is there a smite build that doesn't make you feel like a stun support
yea they got the classic executives rush release so unfinished game comes out, nuking initial performance
So they added assail recently?
So the game had no talent tree?
That's a whole 200% more class per class!
The game was pretty ass tbh
the game had 6 choices of 3 talents where you get 1 in each choice
Barely a step forward from vt2 design
1984
What was vermintide like?
Huge step back in crafting ino
Yea items into dust colored by rarity
Items were the only crafting fuel
Vermintide 1 each weapon just had a three blessing combo with rollable numbers.
Esp with stat rolls being obnoxious
Sounds like more RNG
What blessing is good for the duel sword
Something similar would be core stat rolls influencing crafting rng
uncanny + precog/riposte/rampage
you want uncanny
How funny, I was going to ask about a dueling sword myself lol
thas good
I will literally pay to maxroll it pains me to see percents not at 100
Oki thanks
Been using power sword but just find out that the power sword is not that good these days 😦
Mutants crashed me
Its so wild that their gameplay is so good but they chain the player to timewasting rng put of fear
haha, been avoiding the psword since release here. it's good that other things are getting the limelight
well, mostly avoiding
Power sword mk5 was like the default choice before class rework
It is bizarre, they aren't even giving a means for players to pay to bypass the grind/RNG. Which I'd be 1000% against, but it'd at least make their design make some sense
Powersword is still decent, it does the job it's meant to well and even uncharged is still nearly equivalent to the catachan swords
devil's claw, that's the one lol
Rly? Maybe it just not pair well with purge staff then
needs power cycler though
Oh, think you're talking Force Swords. Ye they've died a bit of a death
I never was a huge fan of the blaze sword, but it feels like hitting people with a foam bat now
pick up for dumdum but don't use these guns.
you can't stop me using guns to get enhanced psionics stacks
also dumdum is the one i am USING
Agreed there, not amazing either way but dumdum would be good on a better rolled gun
By all means use the laspistol, just not these ones.
I use it for the weird interaction with smite
which makes it cost 0 peril
Mobility
do not mention that word here
EP is fine if you want to invest into true aim
yandu darts go burr
i have a grudge against assail psykers for sucking the fun out of horde killing
Enhanced is amazing with assail lol, spamming away and ruining everyone else in the lobby's game
since warp siphon is a 9-point investment if you want to reach the 6 warp charge node
They should allow us to upgrade blessing to the next tier using diamantium
gonna go check what melkbucks will get me on other characters
Play auric
What does the Fire Frenzy trait do now? Its' decription is just plasceholder gibberish for me
attack speed
Just constant attack speed? A particular trigger?
? It still works
What is the best way to build the brain rupture tree? I can't seem to enjoy it compared to lightning hands 😦
i do play auric
Just use EP if you want to go full BB
but again, it's pretty shit now compared to the other options
You referring to me?
ye
Imo it's only worth playing if going for the achievement with it
Is ep the best purple tree for all the subclasses
Warp charges (leftmost one) is great if you want something more generally useful imo.
I go for more middle for the damage mainly
I don't like that they made the skill trees so hard to talk about
Oh, I tried it, but wasn't haven't a great time with it, what skill do you use with it? Shield, forcepush or gaze?
The warp charge tree? I mainly use that with Surge (unlimited power) and the push/vent
How do you use scriers gaze exactly
you really don't
Is it just to be used with not staffs?
That's the tradeoff for givingactually meaningful decisions that do matter
Honestly, I like the push/vent just for the voices lines
the vent has 1 thing going for it
If you want something more simple i recommend Diablo 4
you can use it if you're at 100% peril and exploding
Kill things. It's very silly on assail if you can manage your peril, but it's damn dangerous
Otherwise stabbing people works too
That's why I use
you reckon dome or stun barrier is better
The vent is also useful as an emergency button. Saved a lot of runs/downed people with a little surge and venting
And myself from dogs lol
Stun barrier imo, you can complete ruin mutants and dogs with it
the one case where dome is outright more useful is for monstrosity maelstroms cuz of the bonbon
i very much dislike corridor sections with bonbons
I've found the barrier to be incredibly buggy and not block bullets properly, so I tend to go dome
though i suppose I would just play zealot if I wanted to go for monstrosity maelstrom
has anyone noticed this creepy voice in the distance while playing? sometimes it says like; “now my little one…”, not sure if its voices in the psykers head or not
it is peril ambient effects
im so glad this is the case
my brother (veteran/zealot) thought i officially lost my mind lmao
no you sound pretty insane to me
i kept going every match for 2 weeks like; yo dont you hear that voice in the distance?
Devs are just old probably
Time punishment makes choices more meaningful they think
What voice?
My beloved
whats our best staff atm?
are demonhosts just psykers that succumbed to the warp?
voidstrike
anyone know what the ideal blessings are for Void staff?
Depends on what you want to achieve, really.
This heavily depends on your build, but most go with crit and supply it with surge
i think faster charge and peril crit is good for voidstrike
wait
I’m starting to play psyker from my ogryn and good lord am I having a moment adjusting how brittle I am
what does that surge mean
so
so, imagine that with a certain talent on the skill tree
it shoots out a second projectile
oh
crit is calculated when you shoot, not on contact
doesnt that mean it can still miss
i.e. if you shoot a bullet, it decides if you crit and then any enemy that bullet hits will be a crit (idk if there's exceptions to this since there's some weird crit related talents)
ye it comes out after a slight delay so that can happen
but psyker gets deterministic crits now to it ees what it ees
i see
it's such a large projectile, hard to miss against a crowd or large enemies.
the blast radius is how big the projectile is right ?
or the actual blast radius of the impact
both
oh
but it's not too impactful overall
Does this advice still hold? Or do toughness perks change this
since the projectile has a cleave limit so there's not much point in the scaling for the epicentre
toughness still gets stripped or ignored by certain sources
So better to go health in your opinion?
I'm a toughness stan, but I would take at least one hp curio if playing optimally
I do two health and 1 wound curios
yeah, 12 cleave (patch notes say 10, but that's a lie)
huh
so since poxwalkers have 1.5 hitmass, you can hit 8 of em
psyker shits out toughness nowadays, so not taking any toughness is whatever
in addition to the shield ult
I find I don’t t need the wounds as of yet but the health may help. I find Ihave a hard time adjusting to not fall like a sack of shit when things start getting hairy haha. Oggy has me conditioned
the worst things you usually have to worry about is the surprise gunners.
so I take gunner damage resist on all three curios
some enemies dealing >100 base melee damage also adds a certain threshold beyond which stacking toughness is useful for melee
they should change the server’s banner into a zealot
i ate my dodge button
tbh i prefer health over touughness stacking curios
I wouldn't stack toughness, but if I could, I would have at least one probably. Maybe.
I've been running 2 toughness 1 hp curios
prob stack toughness as side perks at least
i like being able to take a crusher slam and live
basically, as long as you have damage resist against the assholes that strip your toughness over time, you're good.
Is this a decent surge staff?
pog, time to log in and grab that melks illisi
we can get 21% max health now, its just rare as hell
smh imagine not having ordo dockets on all your curios
Riposte vs Precognition for Mk 2 dueling sword?
mmm i like both
So do I haha
hello! sorry to bother Im wondering as a new player, should u prioritize dmg or stats? like this example , what should I pick?
tbh better of going for a MK IV dueling sword
Using uncanny as well atm, which makes me lean toward precog but I've currently got riposte on mine and changing that would make me unable to change anything else
Well the mk 2 is the one I like AND the one I have a decent roll on
So not terribly helpful
cause one says 28% dmg but the other says 50% dmg but the light and heavy attack are different... so im at lost
the light attack/heavy attack numbers are for the first attack of the light/heavy chain
the deimos's first light deals 2x damage than the normal lights
Deimos is single target and is best for focusing a single target, Illisi is a cleave weapon is best at killing multiple enemies at once
Those are also different weapons
the melk currency share across all characters right
every currency
all currencies do
they changed that a while back
it only took them a year to listen to the community
as a psyker is any of those 2 good melee weapons or should I go for duelist?
every week you get to farm the contract on 4 characters
They’re both good, but honestly while you’re leveling it doesn’t really matter all that much
tbh depends on what you need a melee weapon for, is it killing a bunch of enemies at once, or for killing a single enemy quickly
so should I keep my currency from contracts till I reach lv 30?
5, also you can delete and start a new character and do another list of weeklies
I don't really use melee much anymore now that I have a god tier void staff, but for melee I have always preferred duelist sword mk 4 or 5. Force swords are good as a backup weapon or if you want to get that awesome blessing that blocks ranged hits, plus your talent that makes you use up peril instead of stamina while blocking.
also should I upgrade my stuff or wait till lv 30?
i think that the modifier for these weapons are still relatively short, so you’ll eventually find a better verison of it, so for now either of them will do you service and you should prioritize their functions over their damage
Also I was wrong, it is a mk 4 I am using. Still, I feel like any perk/trait advice would be similar lol
wait till 30 honestly. But if you have a REALLY good one... can upgrade to blue I guess.
actually the mk4 feels vastly different from other dueling sword
you get less money at lower difficulties, and stuff that costs dockets/plasteel/diamantine is cheaper, so feel free to splurge it
at least i feel a difference compare to other dueling swords
thanks for the info
So much so that you'd use wildly different traits?
like, radically different?
yeah, the numbers on it are better than the other duelling swords
because it's the only duelling sword that got properly buffed
uhh
okay, so best perks are
Flak, Maniac, Carapace, Unyielding
you can get a single crit chance one too
for blessings there are 3 real options
Shred, Uncanny Strike, Rampage
perhaps not wildly different blessing
you'll notice that the numbers on the MK2 don't match the patch notes
OH ALSO last question, My psyker abilities deal more dmg based on the dmg of my weapons? or is a fixed dmg?
depend on where that damage come from
fixed, not based on weapon
for example I usee the assail can I upgrade the dmg?
nope
because of shenanigans, they inherit the perks and blessings of your held weapon
thats on the psyker
if you swap to a weapon while a assail shard is flying towadrs a target, then yes, but only the weapon you swap too
its based on the blesssings on that weapon tho
wait for real ?
yup
also, don't get too comfy with assail. It is guaranteed to get reworked/nerfed.
It's been in fatshark games since verm 1 lol, it's a funky thing with a lot of trait/weapon interactions
i kno, just having fun with it for a while, still the void staff charge is way to strong too... destroys armored enemis with shields easy
so is psionic infinite smite
crab remarked that some of it will be gone but some of it will be kept
I'm also expecting a nerf to the voidstaff. It's always been good, but atm it is beyond strong.
it got a buff in this patch right ?
Crab? Been out of the loop for a few months sorry lol
o he's a playtester
crab
Ah cool
oh sry, I keep asking questions but, how do u know you are prepared to advance to next difficulty? currently im at Malice, and heresy is a bit strong for me :S
Sorry you've reached your daily limit of questions
that's it, no more.
lol
You play the mission, decide “hey I’m better than everyone here”
Tada next difficulty
This is why I only play malice
ill wait till refresh :v

generally, based on your weapon power
try to have minimum 400 when doing heresy nand 500 for damnation
my strategy was to bash my head into the difficulties to test it out
ill just quick play malice till lv 30 I guess hehehe
heresy is comfortable at 22+ ish, You can always do it earlier, but not with randos. The game always tries to matchmake you with people your level. So if you're level 7 and you're like "i wanna do heresy" it will match you with 3 other level 7 people who had the same idea.
yeah malice can still be rough depending on the modifier.
Bullshit then why do I get matched with lvl 22’s in hi 5 shock
That's up to you really. You can only start to properly get better at the next difficulty by practicing it. Give it a go, and if you feel like you're killing things decently keep trying
Having better gear also helps, but that's the strat I've been using since verm 1 days lol. I would personally say though that the jump from diff 3-4 is usually far larger than 4-5 in my experience
honestly one day I had such awful luck while leveling up, no single rando could even do malice, so I had to back to tier 2.
people would just fold instantly

i been stay relative in malice
you haven't leveled up your armor yet? wtf
But everyone in malice is worse than me wtf
I am strongest player
Best player even
yeah, they're purely cosmetic
curios fill that role of having defensive stat bonuses
but yesterday i was recommended to try damnation for money and resources
and i did 2 of them quite fine
What are the good and bad blaze force swords?
I been searching all the npcs noone lets u increase ur defense
Damnation will give you more resources on average yes
good now stay there until it becomes ez
(the first damnation had me dying 6 time but the difficulty is probably on the people that has to rescue me)
You can get better health and toughness from curios and get more defensive options from your build, but a lot of it comes more down to skill in avoiding damage. Again, it just takes practice
Like I went from malice to Damnation and I was fine
Okay I did do every mission on heresy first
So I lied
What blessings do I want on Surge, warp flurry and warp nexus if i'm going for soulblaze stacks?
Ideal Mk5 combat axe blessings?
i notice most of the concern was from the sudden horde
and how fast they chew through us
i was going with illisis first so it wasn’t that much of a scary run
Gotta learn how to dodge horde attacks and uh
the second run though was with the mk4 dueling
Brutal momentum + decimator? I think
People jumping from lower diffs tend to have the issue that they really ignored the whole 'blocking and dodging' side of the game lol
It can be a rude awakening
LOOK AT MY ARMOR STATS
mine doesnt say that Oo
how am i supposed to not be resource poor in this game?
oh jaja
orale
basically play back to back while suffering, then look again and you'll be like
wow i have a little bit
:C
are all classes balanced or there are classes that are better atm?
You can get plasteel faster by doing low intensity fives. But if you're trying to gear up all 4 characters with a variety of builds... you're gonna have to do it gradually because it's expensive
thus a "little bit"
Basically you are always resource poor
I have 600k dockets 8k diamantine and like 200 plasteel
I think veteran atm is the underdog, everyone else is OP af
At this exact moment in time, psykers are a little busted good and vets are maaybe slightly undertuned but all 4 classes are fully capable of doing well on any difficulty.
they're not, for a couple of reasons
invis crit builds are fun af
zealots are great, but they're not OP
but I wouldnt say it's stronger than ogryn or psyker
just waiting for smite fix so I don't have to play in 3 man squads anymore
thats not a reason you just paraphase what you said
Speaking as someone who's wanted to really love psyker since release and only kind of just enjoyed it once in a while, psyker is a little ridiculous now
I actually really love it
I prefer to play psyker when its not the flavor of the month
when people play psyker just because of assail, it sucks
whats the smite fix that make you play 3 men squad
Used to play the most off-meta vet builds I could think of, but now everyone and their mother is either a pure assail or surge psyker
whats wrong with it
both are so annoying
dang
so smite is both the most overpowered thing in the game and the most underpowered thing in the game simultaneously.
I wasnt till I saw the dmg then I just had to move to that build
when the person does nothing but use those abilities
Empowered pscionics is bugged with smite where smite doesn’t use peril
i love the current surge staff unfortunately
Which lets you infinite cast it
abuse it while you can, it's amazing for leveling up
because you can ignore 100% of your gear
since you only need assail
for most groups
Farming for Surge on Voidstrike feels futile
they didn't
well
the thought part that is
they probably saw guardians of the galaxy again and were like "hey you know what would be neat..."
(maybe too convenient)
the only problem is, im not learning anything about stas
Assail can delete hordes of everything that isn't carapace armoured up to damnation. It's pretty silly
if they saw guardian of the galaxy then we wouldnt be spamming assail
it'll come slowly, no need to rush it
it just gonna be 1 assail shard but it travel infinitely and go through walls
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assail
modify assail to through 1 shard but it can homing to all enemy and cost peril base on enemies it hit
make it the true yondu arrow
what I really love about this game, is, the fact that is showing me how the hive worlds looks like ❤️ it expands a lot imagination
the hive world need a bit more normal habitants i think
testing it in solo play and psykhanium rn, but anyone else noticed that the +damage for each second in scrier's gaze doesnt apply until AFTER you've hit 100% peril and the main "mode" you're in finishes. it doesnt "linger" after starting it doesnt even apply until lingering happens lmfao
al the time now it just look like its infested with dead people
so the whole place doesnt really look like a city
Warp damage means any magic attack?
yeah
Thank you.
but arent these hive worlds infedted by chaos?
any attack that increase your peril
yeah, both staff and blitz abilities and your combat ability (if it does damage)
Includes soul blaze kills and force sword specials
that doesnt matter, what i meant is that due to the purpose of these hive world in the game, i cant quite imagine how they would look like pre-chaos, which at some point they logically should
every location are just a death box instead of an actual dystopian city
unless thats how it is in the imperium
Hope they add another character in a few months
does fuck all in terms of damage yet stunlocks everything that isn't a monstrosity
and even then I think it can stunlock monstrosities in the right circumstances
ah btw there is something I just dont understand
WHY HAVENT I HEAR YET DISPOSAL UNIT soundtrack???}
ratling sniper‼️
lol wtf
maybe you need to do more boss fight
it plays in those missions where you kill the traitor captain
imagine playing as one of those robotic dudes
I want my rattling class
playing as a.. servitor?
yeah you wish
I do 
these guys are trying too hard to be lore accurate, so they'd never jail a ratling
surprised they'd jail an unsanctioned psyker
aint that what the black ships are for
I need to be able to play as this fat shark. ITS AN EASY WIN GODDAMIT
would it be a out of the question if they jail a space marine? I'm sure someone will pull something out of their butt and start speaking lore like "technically there is no jailing a space marine, it's just death"
how the fuck would you even
iono
I want a goodam scitarii and I want a rattling class, arbitrary "story" lore be damned
I wanna play an ork
right
just don't give us another fucking regular human
give them mechanical parts and shit
mechanicus would be the logical next class
Have you seen a skitarii? There ain't no human left in there
or maybe a human that is like... half-infected, but stopped it somehow.
we are so fucked.
i'm not big lore heavy
if they're all assail, the enemy is
neither am I
only if you have 2 deadwieght there
Assail is shit cause its op right now
oops! all
like I love the concept of assail, and I love what it does. But I don't like how it ruins the fun for everyone else.
assail
everyone else ^
because honestly one of these guys being assail can easily carry everyone here
i play assail, cause otherwise i have to rely on shit players
god forbid a person isn't god-tier at the game
They range from vaguely humanoid to "how the fuck is that not a robot"
next patch theyll make psyker spawn daemonhost at 100 peril above
to be fair as well, I have played with two assail psykers, and they both folded instantly at any sign of trouble. So having assail does not make you a good player automatically.
to balance out all the warp attack
i don't play assail because it seems too good to be fun
playable daemonhost‼️
.
HEY WAIT A SECOND
darktide versus mode
in my last 5 games, at least 2 people keeps running off on their own and going down, and there is nothing i can do about it, they ignore chat, and are dead weight
oh
Here is a skitarii on the more humanoid side
steampunk ass gun
but how would they make one for orgyn
do skitarii also randomly shoot their weapon to make sure its always hot and not turned off
they don't always make matching outfits for every class.
i doubt that
And then you can get stuff like the rustalkers
let a man dream
wouldnt it stick out like a thumb to se 3 skitarii, while there are 4 death kriege
Assail drops off hard at the level 4 missions
Still technically human but just sorta kinda
what is level 4
heresy ig
oh
thats unfortunate
It’s called a galvanic rifle, pretty nifty guns tbh
not a bad Staff. 
Must clarify that USING ONLY ASSAIL AND NOTHING ELSE IS NOT ITS INTENDED PURPOSE
is the devil claw mk vii good ?
and yet
@steel flame correct
nay
That's why people die so fast they rely on it to much
It's amazing in auric damnation as a quick swap weapon
does orgyn actually exist in kriege corp
The stagger and auto aim for killing pesky stuff is great
they should
big trenches require big shovel
big shovel require big man
mobility SUCK
Brunt? Why not, dockets come easy
I mean if they decided to start cloning ogryns like the rest of the deathcorp they would exist and since they never say they didn't we cant rule it out. God I love 40k
what about this bad boy
100% assail users be like
how come the voidstrike staff is so widely used?
Because it's nutty
because it destroys everything
Because it’s busted
and every other staff by comparison to it are garbage
They overturned the fuck out of it
Damage is not really what it needed
Needed better blessings
infantry autogun is decnt for damnation horde managing ?
or should i stick to core purpose and get something to take care of specials
Go laspistol gunker and join the crit wizard gun ninja gang
i'd never use a gun on psyker
Hold right click on Assail, specials done inside like 50 meters
what is gunker
You sir are missing out
nooo i want my smite
Gun psyker
Last I asked about monstrosity dmg I got told a agripea mk3 autogun I think
i shall keep this in heavy mind
Dodge slide HARDER
I haven't really played with the guns outside psykanium and grinding out levels so I honestly dunno. If it kills fast, it is good. If it does not, it is bad.
when are they gonna buff assail it uses too much mana
lol
I want more people to join my laspistol cult and become the crit wizards. It's so much fun running around with 160% movement speed with crit immunity to ranged damage and the ability to melt anything in your path
i want to use the lasgun but i like the feeling on autogun more
though the benefits, im pretty sure lasgun should outclass it widely
Disrupt destiny is pretty mid
I love it. The speed alone makes it amazing
interesting
You get better utility from warp charges and they still provide damage
Ive spent an entire year with warp charges as my only option
IM DONE BEING A WARP CHARGE SLAVE
more for me
anyone got a decent lvl 20 build?
same reason im not using BR
assail, done. Now get to 30 and join the club.
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The more I hear this the more I want them to cut assail ammo to 3-4
i have this lasgun pistol
and warp charge does seem like its easier to give damage
but like
Assail is fine and space wizards should be OP 
i dont know
Stick 5% crit on there for baseline 30% crit chance
This is my old build
Haven't screenshotted my new one
Will share that one later
thank you
yes please
You can abuse the crit dodge with it to the point where gunners, shotgunners, reapers and snipers are just trivialized
boy I love watching pyskers try to assail bosses and mutie instead of using their voidstrike
Lol. The two zealots were kind of just watching us do our thing. Smite in combination with assail and 2x shield walls is funny.
is it needed
only crack cocaine users (like zazy) use scrier's gaze
pass me your settings for that scoreboard
I use it to kill armor, specials, elites ragers, and scabs shooters, assail for trash mobs and setting up kills with stun. Scrier and laspistol will be your boss danafe
I like how compact it is
i see
Accurate
crit is pretty significant on laspistol at least
i found scrier gaze a bit rough to use
ok
In about 45 minutes
Turn off everything except coherency, damage, and kills.
do I keep RTX ON of OFF?
jk
Lol you almost gaslit me into thinking there was an RTX setting for it.
let me get on and check the settings
What can I say, it's so involved it makes my ADHD brain jiggle, can't get enough
lol RTX on the scoreboard, realistic lighting on the letters!
good invest ?
or is this not the model i should be looking for in a horde manager
tbh one of the weaker swords we have access too
Illlisi is the horde killing melee weapon
for a devil claw its alright
on the scoreboard, how exactly do you interpret critical rate?
it just gives a number, is that a percent of all hits
or what
no idea, would have to go ask the mod creator
its just a flat number of crits you got
like that shows you hit 39 weakspots with your melee and got 9 crits
i think, anyways
other scoreboard examples instead say "critical hits dealt"
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i think, i know it was something about dodging
shred is ok
i dont like things that proc on dodge too much, mainly because i hate dodging a lot
not really
best single target damage sword yes
Hey guys has anyone else noticed that the wildfire trait is bugged to apply unscaled stacks?
with uncanny does it apply the rending to that weakspot hit or just hits after that weakspot hit?
the ideal application for the dodge blessing is disablers, but you're usually taking them out with ranged anyway
only to the hits you do with the weapon, and the stacks only last 1s or so
yea I think it's 2s
it lasts just long enough to chain full power heavy attacks
yea, I just run shred and uncanny
which should i get?
With Fatshark magic, I'm willing to bet it's to the first hit as well
im thinking overpowering souls
elite kills
There was a crit thing that worked like that in Vermintide 2, but maybe not here
you're killing elites constantly in damnation
ya thats what i figured
assail -> kinetic presence -> venting shriek -> empowered psionics
i think my build is looking pretty good
yup that is certainly one of the builds of all time
:]
I just lost a brutal game right at the end cus of some dumb shit
im fucking HEATED
aint that the story of our lives
I wanted that win so bad
for the level 25 who went down 13 times
im constantly the last one downed any time im in a rando game
what the hell is this abomination
It legit takes like 3 seconds to reach max radius lmao
I'm keeping it just for the memes
but man
i dont tend to use staffs in my psyker build
i would rather use all my peril towards my blitz
and switch to gun when im out of charges
i would say there are better trauma
at least for me
all the armory been showing me is 370 trauma staff
even though i need a purgatus
I think precog blessing may be better in this patch than riposte. The attack speed is probably more useful during hordes
i need me a hand canon so i can be the lone psyker
get me that big iron
Slow fire rate huge damage revolver mark when
give us bolt pistols lol
force axe
One day we'll get more force weapons in general ... The stupid thing is that they have a ton of Sienna staves they could convert over
this is true but the dodge proc feels so inconsistent for me that I just dont bother
I usually run trauma anyway
I don't think FS wants a repeat of the Corusc staff, as much as we'd want it
in the town of Branx Magna rode a psyker one fine day
But yes we do at least need the beam staff over here
what are the dump stats on the illisi?
its been years since i played VT, so i am unfamiliar with that.
I just want a greater variety of staves
It's her 'newest' staff (well, until the Necro gets its Assail staff this week)
It lets her create three fire columns on the ground that persist for a while
And it also has a shotgun spread primary attack
It's stupid good
the rogue trader outfit and that cowboy hat makes a nice duelist psyker
yall think assail is gonna get nerfed?
You just drop fire puddles onto enemy spawn points and clear hordes
asail will get nerfed
And then you get to 1-2shot maulers in Cata+
that saddens me
and any unarmored specials at close range
it'll get buffed
very bad on sedition and lower
hell ya
needs a huge buff
assail too weak
needs buff
🤷♂️
I believe it's mobility but unsure lol
you guys are so lucky with your rolls wtf
Yeah sounds like lol
if we cant have more staves i at least would like to see the stave special switched to actual special attack instead of that useless stick smack.
In the time it takes for it to go off, you can swap to your melee and bonk the target anyway XD
Nice. Got a pretty good one on a roll and wanted to know. 75+ on basically everything but mobility is like 50 lol
