psyker-class

[austere burrow]

lmao

[unique mist]

seriously

[regal musk]

Are you trying to imply Voidstrike cant just obliterate hordes at close range? cos it absolutely can lol

[unreal tapir]

all you have to do in close horde is backstep with deimos then half charge an alt fire. if you cant staff in horde you suck

[hearty sedge]

Voidstrike deletes everything.

[unique mist]

I'm just saying

If I have 40 chaff enemies up my asshole with 2 downed teammates

[regal musk]

The only reason i even have a melee weapon is cos the game forces me to lol
I virtually never use it ...

[unique mist]

I would rather pull out assail

Than brain burst or voidstrike

[hearty sedge]

I have a double cleave mk1 sword for when I get swarmed.

Because I have exactly zero braincells.

[unreal tapir]

i almost dont want to pick up a dagger to shred monstrosities in bad pub games because deimos dodge is so strong. i really shouldnt pick up a dagger because its not my job as psyker but it bothers me when my team wipes to the only thing im not geared to obliterate. only time i put the staff away is to dodge with deimos

[unique mist]

No like I for sure know how strong voidstrike is

I can solo clear a horde as long as I can camp the spawn door

[unreal tapir]

its just the weirdest thing loading into pub games sometimes and i have 2 zealots and an ogryn yet im the one killing the monstrosity. really makes me want to get a knife

[hearty sedge]

Bleed is love. Bleed is life.

[unique mist]

but when I get swarmed and I'm stuck with mk4 duelling sword

its assail that has my back

[hearty sedge]

I want assail to get a recharge nerf. 1 charge every 10s

[unique mist]

My assail nerf is simple

charges don't regen at high peril

[unreal tapir]

keep it like it is. everyone complains about how broken it is but i always have bad psykers load into my aurics that still cant do anything with it. maybe even buff it so even the bad players can contribute in my games

[regal musk]

Id rather see Assail switched to an alternative Staff weapon and something else put in its place as a Blitz

[ebon jolt]

I know I should swap +2 stamina for crit instead of +8% special but I like sprinting with the staff and then swapping to force sword to regen stamina.

[abstract badger]

U think assail is op?

[unique mist]

I think assail is far and away the best blitz

[regal musk]

I dont, personally.
I just feel like it should be a weapon and not a Blitz.

[unique mist]

It horde clears like nothing else

and leaves not much for teammates to do

Especially because tide is a horde shooter

[abstract badger]

true

[unique mist]

If you get rid of the horde

its just a shooter

[keen harbor]

That's when I go hunting for loot and medkits

[burnt granite]

It can be alot stronger than you'd think with some bugs in this patch, currently if you use a revolver with hand cannon it applies to assail as well

[keen harbor]

that's hilarious

[abstract badger]

lol

[unique mist]

And people play horde games to get in the middle of a mass of writhing meat with sharp things that want to murderise you and absolutely slaughter them in return

[burnt granite]

Technically, right now the revolver applies it's blessings to all ranged weapons and assail counts as a ranged weapon

[unique mist]

i guess you could say that the revolver has evolvered

[burnt granite]

It doesn't matter on just about any other class because you only have one ranged weapon

idk if it applies to knives for zealot, that'd be funny if it doesn't

[unique mist]

well every psyker keystone has a bug rn

[abstract badger]

wait so weapon blessings work on assail?

[burnt granite]

for revolver only

[keen harbor]

There are a lot of bugs right now

[burnt granite]

or maybe all guns, im not a psyker guy

[unique mist]

weapon perks do work with assail if you switch to a weapon after firing an assail shard

[regal musk]

Even more reason for it just being a weapon all on its own.

[keen harbor]

There's the ogryn gunlugger skill that applies +3 fire damage to every single body part, instead of how it's described

[true lake]

so devil claw swords... any suggestions or thoughts on them? i wanted to try out the parry because i heard you can abuse it on bosses

was told IV was the good devil claw but not sure

[keen harbor]

Mk4 dclas is the best one, AFIAK

[burnt granite]

I think it's kinda like how if you swap to melee after throwing a shredder grenade it count's as melee kills if its out

[unique mist]

Its easier to talk about what isn't bugged rn than what is

[keen harbor]

At least most of the bugs work in favor of the player

[true lake]

im fine with bugs as long as they arent like egregious and make teamplay impossible

[regal musk]

A little too much in favor of XD
But better that than unplayable i guess.

[ashen schooner]

I had more overkill damage than normal damage hah

[severe folio]

anyone have a basic setup for melee psyker

[mild junco]

Do you have the share talents mod ?

[atomic zephyr]

new fav psyker weaqp

[atomic zephyr]

depends what weap you want to run, duel sword? force sword? chain sword?

[magic vessel]

Chain has quickly become a staple in my loadouts rotation

[atomic zephyr]

i went from deimos to mk4 duel to chain sword

and im not going back to force swords

[keen harbor]

You should try Illis. Easily the best horde melee sword for psyker

[mild junco]

I agree that illisi might be the best yeah

[magic vessel]

I'm afraid to roll my Illisi transcendent

I just know it's gonna fucking brick

[atomic zephyr]

Im not saying its not the best, but honestly, its only good for horde?

[keen harbor]

No, you can totally use it against elites and muties. It just takes more than one swing

[mild junco]

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Here's a build, you'll want to take a weapon with high crit chance.
Shield is imo better than gaze for the stun, but gaze is also very good.

Goes without saying that it's probably less than perfect, and might have to be refined with whatever you want

[atomic zephyr]

Mk 4 is so much quicker, just doesn’t horde too well, chainsword tho, satisfies my zealot bleed needs as a@psyker

[mild junco]

You forget one important part about Illsi: Deflector. If you want to be melee based, I feel like Deflector is something you'll crave.

[magic vessel]

Would love deflector on mine but I had brain worms and did both the perks so now I can't change the blessing if I wanted to when I take it to gold

[keen harbor]

Thing is though, Illis doesn't take all that long getting rid of elites and muties either

IMO, needs a bit of a nerf

[primal aurora]

Illisi feels somehow less impactful since update. Still strong, but not as safe to use as before.

I've just tried dueling sword mk IV and it's neat, especially vs armored enemies.

[kind knot]

these are the talents i need to get this penance, yes?

[woven crypt]

Brainburst still viable? I assume you just go the old standard shit

[compact cargo]

It's good

Just not the other 2 options

[kind knot]

it still suffers the same problems as before the update

[compact cargo]

Empower bb is my favorite but some folk run the old warp charge with em

With empower it's 1.02 seconds

[woven crypt]

But now there's other shit which doesn't have those issues

[kind knot]

yeah

[compact cargo]

and you will have 100% empower uptime with bb

[west prism]

hey guys, new psyker with a noob question, does soul blaze count as a warp attack?

[primal aurora]

right mouse button charge should target only special enemies

[spice veldt]

yep

it's as balanced as you think

[vagrant hinge]

Noob question since I just started playing, how do I pull this up once the mission is over?

[strong gulch]

It's a mod

[spice veldt]

text/gif guide for installing mods https://dmf-docs.darkti.de/#/installing-mods

[long ether]

Scoreboard mod specifically

[vagrant hinge]

Awesome, thank you!

[unique mist]

Does curio revive speed (ally) affect how fast people revive you or how fast you revive allies

[lucid terrace]

How you revive allies

[frail field]

Wait, how do you access those stats?

[ashen schooner]

scoreboard mod

[kind knot]

ok, before i lose my mind, the warp battery penance isnt 5 minutes straight right?

[summer prairie]

it is

[unreal tapir]

its not bad on damnation

pretty standard gameplay you just cant dump your warp charges so no ability while youre doing the penance

[burnt island]

Lol idk whether to be ashamed or proud. This is just too funny not to use.

[royal falcon]

stabby bit

[soft notch]

whats the bb build that lights everything on fire? 😆

[woven crypt]

Am I crazy for thinking this is kind of a waste of a talent point

[summer prairie]

it's nearly useless

[woven crypt]

If the cooldown was lower it's a no brainer but 15 seconds is insane

At 15 seconds that bitch better have a 100% chance

Also what counts as critical peril

100? 90? Just in the red?

[summer prairie]

97%

[primal aurora]

What do you suggest for gun psyker?

[lofty temple]

I take it since I have nothing better to spend the point on

I get some funny elite instakills every once in a while

[woven crypt]

The Kinetic Deflection In Question

[lofty temple]

I already have that

[woven crypt]

The, uh

10% health node in question

[lofty temple]

lol

I'll take a funny kill every 20 seconds instead

[summer prairie]

It does boost your overkill damage by a decent bit, very important

[spice veldt]

TRUUUUUUUUE

[summer prairie]

when you do the math, it's more than you'd think

[ornate hamlet]

best blessings for illisi force sword?

deflector and what

[kind knot]

does overkill damage mean anything good or is it just how thoroughly you obliterated a pox walker

[summer prairie]

latter

[kind knot]

ah

so just funny number

[vagrant frigate]

MK IV dueling

[ornate hamlet]

no thanks i dont feel like being a basic bitch abusing overtuned weapons

[strong gulch]

Uncanny strikes is now the better blessing.

Used to be slaughter, but it was nerfed. It's still good tho.

You could run both instead of deflector.

[summer prairie]

Kind of annoying how you can't run forceswords with assail

well you can, but it's annoying

[proud mantle]

does cd aura work on assail charge

[strong gulch]

But if you prefer the comfort of deflector, keep it.

[ornate hamlet]

whats uncanny do

[strong gulch]

rending on weak spot hit

[vagrant frigate]

it kills things

[strong gulch]

perks are generally flak + maniac

[woven crypt]

Can brain blast crit

[jolly cedar]

Best force sword?

[ornate hamlet]

nop

[strong gulch]

Deimos can probably cover more areas than illisi, but illisi is very good at horde clear.

Deimos can take on armor and mutants much better tho

[kind knot]

ok, ive enjoyed it for long enough, just how bad is my voidstrike staff

[ornate hamlet]

omg 57 damage

[kind knot]

not great i take it?

[ornate hamlet]

grab one with 80% and see the difference

[kind knot]

thats the trick now isnt it

[ornate hamlet]

lol true

just waste hundreds of thousands of dockets on brunts

[summer prairie]

pretty good odds that the first one you buy from brunt ends up being better

[kind knot]

no, im hording my dockets now, after getting a nice hood and shirt and some checkered pants

i have no need to spend such money

[ornate hamlet]

buy 1 staff from brunts

it might be better

[kind knot]

only a spoonful

[ornate hamlet]

quell speed is least important

[kind knot]

idk, i like it so i can keep firing

[unique mist]

I wish that it only worked on bigger enemies, like elites specials monstrosities ogryns only

[summer prairie]

I think I prefer quell to warp resistance

[ornate hamlet]

its not a big difference

[unique mist]

It would be great for purgatus horde clear

[ornate hamlet]

warp lets you fire for longer and quell reduces the down time

[unique mist]

spray into a horde, clearing a room, brainburst the first big guy in the flames

[full panther]

This worth picking up?

[burnt island]

Lol so used to playing veteran I accidentally did a 0 damage run as a psyker.

[ornate hamlet]

I had had my first damnation run

[safe monolith]

good build staff

[ornate hamlet]

With smite

[unique mist]

YES

holy shit

[ornate hamlet]

top tier blessings

[summer prairie]

it's worth picking up

[ornate hamlet]

And by the emperor it was fun

[unique mist]

Its almost perfect

[safe monolith]

a little more damage and i would call it the best you can get

[kind knot]

spoiler alert, it wasnt better

[safe monolith]

also a great one^

[ornate hamlet]

LMAO worse damage than what you had

[safe monolith]

🙂

[summer prairie]

could still be better, to be fair

[unique mist]

keep crit chance perk (upgrade to 5% if you have the resources)

[summer prairie]

your staff is like 0/4 on blessings/perks

[unique mist]

maybe switch the other one

but like

i have no idea to what

[keen harbor]

swap terrifying barrage for...?

[unique mist]

Warp nexus

[safe monolith]

definitely

[full panther]

any good builds to use with that staff I posted above? I've been trying a different roll of it out and the surge staffs don't seem to have much CC value anymore

kind of a bummer

[kind knot]

i will buy only one more out of curiosity

[safe monolith]

use with brainburster i'd say

[unique mist]

I'm ngl I thought you that was a purgatus staff

didnt see it was surge

Still top tier picks regardless

[safe monolith]

does crit even matter for purgatus?

can burn crit?

[unique mist]

yes

[keen harbor]

k thx

[unique mist]

it applies double soulblaze stacks on crit

[keen harbor]

will try this blaze trauma build

[safe monolith]

oh i did not know

[unique mist]

that is why crit is good on purgatus

[kind knot]

ok, this one has better damage

[safe monolith]

what about a crit damage perk?

[ornate hamlet]

that ones better than what u had

[safe monolith]

is that worthless?

[unique mist]

prolly

i have no clue what 2nd perk you'd run on purgatus

[safe monolith]

10% of a stack of soulblaze isnt gonna give me another stack

[unique mist]

thats not how that works lol

[safe monolith]

stamina or something lol

?

[unique mist]

its not tied to crit damage

just the crit event itself

[safe monolith]

oh

[unique mist]

besides base crit damage is only like 40% or something

idk

[safe monolith]

can soulblaze stacks crit on their own?

[unique mist]

soulblaze cant crit

[safe monolith]

then thats basiaclly worthless, yeah

[unique mist]

what is

crit damage?

[safe monolith]

crit damage on purgatus

[unique mist]

yeah

[safe monolith]

guess ill use like stamina regen or something

[unique mist]

just try a purgatus staff on the carapace ogryn in psykanium

it tickles them

Soulblaze doesn't even do anything

[safe monolith]

brainburst does, though

[unique mist]

voidstrike too

more so than bb

bb is so sad

worse dps than voidstrike

Can't roll blessings

[safe monolith]

the random brainburst thing is awesome

[unique mist]

cant crit

[safe monolith]

with purgatus

[unique mist]

Yeah but it has no target prioritisation

[safe monolith]

thats what makes it fun

[kind knot]

quick questioni while im here, should i pick up this sword from sire melks?

[safe monolith]

what fun would it be if everything worked exactly as you wanted all the time?

[unique mist]

Like oh boy one of the chaff in this horde died instantly, thats great. Wish it actually chose to proc in the mauler in the group, but I guess I'll die now

[safe monolith]

brainburst will always inflict soulblaze if you have that one perk

[unique mist]

meh

[safe monolith]

and if you get the spread one is good

[ornate hamlet]

Question

Is smite good

[unique mist]

4 stacks of soulblaze oh boy

[ornate hamlet]

first target is kinda important on deimos given it can only really hit one enemy at a time

[safe monolith]

8formstun

[unique mist]

cant wait to do 22 damage per tick

[safe monolith]

stun and knockdown on large groups is useful. does very little damage

[burnt island]

The Blood Angels would be proud... And then they'd kill me.

[unique mist]

It is only as good as your teammates

[kind knot]

that looks fantastic

[safe monolith]

you have the order wrong

[unique mist]

kill them first

[ornate hamlet]

Hey that's useful for just overall damage reduction for teammates in hordes and such

[safe monolith]

they would kill you, and THEN be proud

[burnt island]

You right

[safe monolith]

yes

it is

[unique mist]

but you are also a sitting duck

[safe monolith]

its a great utility blitz

[unique mist]

Slowly building peril

Not killing anything

[safe monolith]

🙂 bug

[unique mist]

Praying to the master of mankind your teammates aren't ogryns IRL

[safe monolith]

or venting shriek

[unique mist]

while your teammates see the locked down enemies, think "they got this" and run off in search of plasteel

[safe monolith]

"oh lightning? that'll kill em quick i dont need to be here"

[proud mantle]

what are the 2 dump stats on trauma staff

[unique mist]

smite psykers when they've reached their target limit in a damnation horde and a mauler slowly walks up to them
https://tenor.com/view/caption-willem-dafoe-gif-22191068

[safe monolith]

thats when you use venting shriel

shriek

[unique mist]

its on cooldown

[safe monolith]

and then beat the shit out of them with deimos

[safe monolith]

well dont do that, then

[unique mist]

just laugh at the joke

[safe monolith]

ok

[unique mist]

laugh at the meme

do it

validate me

[safe monolith]

eat my entire warp-infected ass

[unique mist]

by the god emperor

That is not where tentacles are supposed to be

[safe monolith]

fuck you, it just replaced my pubic hair

[unique mist]

then you must have been an ape

[safe monolith]

...and then it spread a little bit...

[unique mist]

it's a good thing my staff has high warp resistance

😏

[safe monolith]

i just use high quell stat

but they grow back faster when trimmed

[unique mist]

ok this conversation has broached into blasphemy territory

[safe monolith]

you're imagining them

[unique mist]

here is your rare reddit post praising FS and positively discussing darktide https://redd.it/177ys0m

[unique mist]

well i am hearing voices

[safe monolith]

made by a dev

[bold maple]

there's a target limit?

[shut breach]

I just had a brilliant idea.

What if, we limited assail by having it reliant on killing specials and/or elites to generate ammo.

[spice veldt]

that's just zealot's knife

[shut breach]

This way, it'll "scale" up to have more potential rounds

Yeah but, not the only way

[spice veldt]

that's also just empowered psionics

[shut breach]

Just slow down base reload rate and make it work sorta like Ogryn's bruiser I guess?

idk

[spice veldt]

well, the elite part at least

I'd just nerf the ammo and regen

[shut breach]

Just make it reliant on killing elites/specials so it scales up

so it won't completely break malice and below

[safe monolith]

make it not regen ammo until you expend all shards, and then have a small cooldown before regenerating shards

[shut breach]

where you have less targets to reset it

[spice veldt]

nerfing the ammo will be good enough

because it's going to overkill anyways

[shut breach]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Yeah I guess

[spice veldt]

and making its upgrade nodes lock each other out

[shut breach]

Honestly just had the idea after a game of Ogryn with bruiser

[spice veldt]

and nerfing its base target limit

[shut breach]

and noticing just how much I could spam it more on higher difficulties

[spice veldt]

yeah it's quite ridiculous

i'd rather it be a quick-swap weapon

[shut breach]

And thinking about how much Psykers just whine like

[spice veldt]

so you can maintain a known and constant tempo of swapping to it and back

[shut breach]

"But assail doesn't scale"

[spice veldt]

i would like to strangle those people

[shut breach]

Hey that rhymes

[nimble adder]

So what’s this psyker build with guns?

[shut breach]

Yeah true, they do have a technical point even if it's a bad one

[shut breach]

Step 1: Be psyker
Step 2: Get a gun

Jokes aside, I presume Seer?

[spice veldt]

vraks 3 is prob the best gun optimally speaking

[safe monolith]

apparently snub nose is good

[shut breach]

With seer you're generating peril just by existing so you don't want to use a staff that generates more

[safe monolith]

i wouldnt know as i dont use guns, but thats what ive heard. specifically for psyker

[obsidian arch]

am i gimping myself if i never use my secondary? i feel like i mostly just use needles n sword

[safe monolith]

well assail is ridiculously broken, so no not really

[unique mist]

I dont know, I assumed so. I just wanted to make a funny

[fading patrol]

Left or right? Id assume left one is better but right has swappable blessing

[safe monolith]

target limit is reaching max peril

[shut breach]

Not short term

but long term after Assail gets nerfed.

[unique mist]

what the hell is en garde

[fading patrol]

Theyre both mk v its just a name mod

[safe monolith]

...

[unique mist]

For a minute there I thought FS introduced uniques or something

[safe monolith]

same

[unique mist]

Wouldn't that be cool

[odd siren]

which one is better

[safe monolith]

right

[spice veldt]

left

[safe monolith]

REEEE

[odd siren]

...

[spice veldt]

i rate cloud radius as the most important stat on the purg

[fading patrol]

Well you can simply name your weapons whatverr you want

[safe monolith]

well fuck you, i rate quell speed

[spice veldt]

die

[safe monolith]

eat me

[spice veldt]

oh ok

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1115917730504249344/2FA4296C-344B-4C13-AD15-C6FFF8C14A85.gif

[odd siren]

honestly cloud radius is probably more important

[keen harbor]

Cloud radius is such a weird name for it. Just call it range

[strong gulch]

left

[safe monolith]

but honestly, it depends on whether you prefer cloud radius or quell speed. the other stats are all so close it wont make much difference

[keen harbor]

Hadron will manage to brick both of them

[safe monolith]

its also width of the cloud

[unique mist]

Both are good but maybe right

[safe monolith]

see? someone gets it

[unique mist]

Arc just discovered rampage gives a 100% damage boost

[unique mist]

Not the purg staff guy

[safe monolith]

oh...

[oak herald]

hello sparkheads

[unique mist]

mk5 ds question

[safe monolith]

agreed, anyway

[spice veldt]

i love my ✨intended ✨ mechanics https://streamable.com/0xpve1

[safe monolith]

O.O

[spice veldt]

yeah das the good shit innit

[unique mist]

You know how I was asking about my mk4 a couple days ago with uncanny and rampage

[spice veldt]

i take no responsibility

[unique mist]

Well I couldn't get rampage to proc

[spice veldt]

for my words

[unique mist]

At all

even with push

[spice veldt]

o

interesting

[safe monolith]

have you tried sticking three fingers into a VCR?

that might fix the problem

[unique mist]

so I switched it to precog

[unique mist]

what

[safe monolith]

well have you?

[safe monolith]

great staff

[unique mist]

I like warp flurry and transfer peril

as a general purpose

[safe monolith]

this looks like a specific crit build tho

[unique mist]

But will ofc switch to surge and nexus when I get surge

[safe monolith]

"when"?

[unique mist]

I don't have it yet

[safe monolith]

YOU ARE LIKE LITTLE BABY

so small and innocent

[unique mist]

I am upgrading 370+ voidstrikes at Hadron as much as I can

all i get

[safe monolith]

um

[unique mist]

is run and gun

[safe monolith]

stop that

[unique mist]

on every staff

[unique mist]

I SPENT ALL MY MELK COINS LIKE AN IDIOT

[safe monolith]

well

[unique mist]

I HAVE NONE

[safe monolith]

then dont do that

duh

beg the armory dude

[unique mist]

i do what i want

[safe monolith]

offer him a bj

[unique mist]

armory dude doesnt sell higher than t4

[unique mist]

Wouldn't be my first offer

[odd siren]

yeah i dont have surge

[safe monolith]

sounds like a 'you' problem

[odd siren]

feels bad

[unique mist]

I'll turn you into a problem in a minute

[safe monolith]

i've been a problem my entire life

[steady lion]

Is melk store the only source of tier4 blessings?

Can the docket store sell tier4s?

[unique mist]

No

You can upgrade high base rating weapons for chances at t4

I am unsure if you can get a t4 blessings when upgrading to blue

I heard you can but have yet to get one myself

[hardy coral]

running full Damnation in quickplay for the passed 2 days with psyker has made me realize how quickly people are willing to throw their hp away and get downed trying to revive another player.

[strong gulch]

You can get T4 blessings when upgrading to blue. It's more likely that you'll get them on orange tho.

[safe monolith]

yeah my purgatus staff got two t4 blessings

i upgraded it from white

[unique mist]

Nobody wants to play it safe and give up ground to clear the horde and eventually get the revive because it takes too long and people will leave

[safe monolith]

warp flurry and like, channeling or something

[unique mist]

But also

So many fucking people leave when they get downed

Many more leave and rejoin to abuse that bug

[hardy coral]

ive comleted 2 missions after getting downed and 2 people leave then bots spawn in with the revive.

[safe monolith]

smite the horde

[restive slate]

No honour among rejects haha

[hardy coral]

its sad because im at 190/250 missions as psyker until im done with all class penance's entirely and im planning on running full damnation to get better rewards and learn blessings from the weapons i get. gonna take me so long with randoms.

[queen fog]

then get friends to play with

Or some lads in this discord, got a handful of options

[hardy coral]

yeah.. i had friends to play with but they come and go, seems im always the last one playing. plus time zone differences.

[queen fog]

Lol I feel that last part, broski of mine wanted to tide but it’s like 2am my timezone afternoon for them

So had to decline

[onyx sentinel]

Is this a good base? if so, which modifiers should I reroll?

[true lake]

the modifiers are nice

[keen harbor]

I would change +2 stamina to carapace, and keep the rest

[true lake]

i would say get extra damage against carapace and switch transfer peril for something else

i never really like transfer peril much

[keen harbor]

Transfer Peril with Warp charges really lets you spam it

not as good as nexus + surge, but if you only reroll 1 modifier on it, you can apply surge later on

[minor vigil]

Can assail proc psyonics?

[queen fog]

Kills are kills my friend, of course it does lol

what made u think it didn’t?

[minor vigil]

"Your next blitz" so I'd have to re-proc the ability

or something, idk

[queen fog]

You have 10 shards max at a time, is okay

Plus it doesn’t even eat the 1st 1 when u get a stack of EP

[near wyvern]

Yes and there is a lot more to it than what that description tells you, check Atheneum in pinned messages (still WIP because of the big update)

[bleak tulip]

very good, change stam to flak and unyielding with maniac or crit imo

unyielding isnt super valuable on void overall

[autumn smelt]

Better than nothing tho, you'll still get value out of it

Esp against bosses and reapers

[burnt island]

Lol I'm starting to think krak nades are the only way to go

[minor vigil]

How do you get this after match score board?

[burnt island]

Scoreboard mod

[autumn smelt]

They really do fill a gap in vets kit that he has few solutions to

[minor vigil]

Link?

[burnt island]

Be sure to have the Darktide framework and all that fancy stuff already installed.
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/22

[onyx sentinel]

Does warp flurry work on voidstrike staves now? I feel like I never really go above 50 peril due to transfer peril, so warp nexus doesn't feel as valuable

[bleak tulip]

certinly, but upgrading flurry is less valuable and nexus is BiS so you might as well

[bleak tulip]

yes

I dont use it anymore personally because there is so much more crit synergy now but its very nice QoL

they made it last longer too now so you dont have to immediately recast or lose it

[nimble adder]

Ugh why is it people are flocking to psyker

[bleak tulip]

assail and void are hilariously overtuned

thats why

[nimble adder]

And most of the psykers are crap

[spice veldt]

cuz stronk

[bleak tulip]

also its fun

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[spice veldt]

such is the nature of games

i went to bolter vet 2 months before the skill tree to abuse the shit out of it before it got patched

[regal musk]

i love the impact on the bolter, not so much how it handles at low level lol

[plucky flax]

That's me.

[bleak tulip]

I basically only use it to magdump crusher hordes on zealot

[spice veldt]

bolters are nice if you don't have any significant source of anti-crushers

ironically, they're not as useful for this purpose anymore on veteran

i'm using the bolter on zealot currently

[plucky flax]

RIP sustain fire and old pinning fire.

Bolter got hit harder than autopistol.

[bleak tulip]

momentum bolter is hilarious, you just shit 15 rounds out in like a second and back to melee

[spice veldt]

blam blam blam

very interesting to have chastise affect the bolter

[regal musk]

Its fun just turning things into red mist on h it, but since my vet is like level 16, the stats on the bolter is so low in addition to not wanting to waste mats upgrading these low level trash weapons its just not worth using XD
Finding the rapid fire lasguns much more effective at that early level lol

[plucky flax]

Also ammo nerf hurt vet bolter.

[spice veldt]

yeah it's certainly a clunky weapon

[autumn smelt]

Assail and void were fun for a bit but they honestly get boring as fuck very fast
I'm literally a psyker main but I've been running crit bleed knife zealot for 3 days now cuz it's just more fun than the META meta psyker

[spice veldt]

i played a recent set of dclaw zealot which was nice

[bleak tulip]

I'm still having fun c:

[spice veldt]

i wish there were more ragers

[bleak tulip]

I just do my weeklies on other chars if I get bored

[spice veldt]

so that I could fuck their shit up

[autumn smelt]

My vets Dclaw can't 1 shot them

[spice veldt]

pathetic

don't talk to me

[autumn smelt]

It takes a parry and a light to kill them

[autumn smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/itsover-wojack-gif-4367840179675491690

[west smelt]

I wonder if there’s a way to add a crit sound like tf2’s cause I don’t notice it very often focusing on hordes

[bleak tulip]

with how much you can crit in this game would you want that

its like playing pyro but all the time

[lyric burrow]

I mostly hear the sound or see the different trail color in melee

But yeah its not obvious

[spice veldt]

it feels noticeable to me most times

maybe hitmarker for crits

[west smelt]

We crit that much?

[bleak tulip]

yeah kinda

especiall in hordes it would be a lotta noise methinks

guess you could turn off the crit notification for trash since it doesnt matter

[west smelt]

True that

[bleak tulip]

void with nexus crits a lot

[burnt island]

Its a whooshing sound and a trail color for melee. For ranged, it kind of sounds like a ping.

[bleak tulip]

also soulfire ticks can crit

and you dont want 50 tf2 crit sounds popping every few seconds

[west smelt]

I’ll keep that in mind, thanks kindred

[bleak tulip]

correction, the purg direct damage can, I just didnt clock that mentally

https://tenor.com/view/marcoelprro-gif-27525382

[paper loom]

is this worth buying ?

[bleak tulip]

sure

pretty much perfect stat roll all things considered

executor isnt the worst

[paper loom]

yea thats what i thought wasnt sure about the blessing

[bleak tulip]

its not "optimal" if you care about that

but its fine tbh

[paper loom]

ty what should i hope for as the last blessing?

[bleak tulip]

slaughterer, uncanny

[paper loom]

cant wait to brick this sword in a fe wmins then:]

the crafting is a bit depressing

[restive slate]

Used to be more depressing

[idle bay]

And still depressing

It will get current 20k online players to go back to 2k after they found out that to test some cool build they also need weapons to match it... and it''s tricky

[plucky flax]

Fartshart grinding.

[near wyvern]

Excecutor is very good monstrosity damage even combined with uncanny strike assuming you can consistently hit heads. It is not reset on a miss but it is unfortunately reset if you cleave through and hit a body even tho the first hit is head. You can get multiple stacks in one swing tho if you hit many heads.

[idle bay]

Next stage: VIP1, VIP2, VIP3 to get extra materials for ~~gambling ~~crafting and probably "surprise mechanics"

They made main part of the game good, then other essential part of the game should be as bad as possible, and be fixable via monetization of it. Modern Gaming 101

[bright brook]

It'd be nice if quick pressing cast for the bubble shield just put it around the psyker instead of where I'm aiming

[idle bay]

Mod can fix it maybe?

Darktide Modders discord is still alive (though i have no idea how to get invite link).

[dim parrot]

true, always makes me look down xD

[plucky flax]

Even placing wall too is not that responsive.

[severe folio]

whats that

[severe folio]

well, perhaps a bit of words for all of them, duel sword, force sword, chain sword, devil sword

[severe folio]

thank you

[thin finch]

Can brunt stop being a broken tin can and give me a good trauma staff please

[wispy iris]

what curios perks are best ?

[thin finch]

DAMN YOU TIN CAN

[thin finch]

toughness /health
wounds
Damage reduction from gunner
damage reduction from mutant
and I don't know for the rest

[wispy iris]

thanks

[thin finch]

Damage reduction from gunner is truly a must haev in high difficulte, they will shred you like cheese if you walk into a wall o gun

[wispy iris]

is dome not enough ?

[thin finch]

not always up , and it's always good to have a way to not die if you are surprised

[wispy iris]

fair

[thin finch]

trust me, the patrol of gunner will shred your dome and then you quite quickly

[wispy iris]

o

got it

[lethal raptor]

For a psyker crit build (scrier's gaze) the revolver seems like the most logical ranged weapon, but do people have other suggestions?

[keen harbor]

doesn't laspistol have higher base crit chance?

[thin finch]

heavy laspistol is apparently good, I have not tried it yet.
I've also heard good thing from the base lasgun , but again, did not tested it yet

[lethal raptor]

I don't know, I haven't used either weapon much, don't have many perks for them. I do have handcannon for the revolver though, which makes it quite a bit better against crushers

[thin finch]

the stub is good tho, no doubt about it , but heavy laspistol seems a good alternative

[lethal raptor]

Moreover, most of the psyker perks are about generating crit chance, as opposed to actually doing something with this crit chance (like giving rending in the sharpshooter tree)

edit: on second glance, it's actually kinda balanced, but you still do get a lot of crit chance from scrier's gaze.

[terse rivet]

Came back after a long break. There have been a lot of balance changes to weapons. The staffs I can figure out. But what are the top 3-5 melee weapons for psyker now. Is the mark IV dueling sword still top tier?

[queen fog]

Dueling swords still slap yea

[west smelt]

Force swords seem to have been upped by good roll duelling swords, but they still have their own niche. Mk 4 is still good

[coarse sequoia]

is the maccabian sword any good?

[keen harbor]

Mk5 dueling sword is more for horde, where as Mk4 is for boss and elites

[coarse sequoia]

I see

would you say that sword right there is worth buying from melk?

[paper loom]

is uncanny strike better than slaughter?

[keen harbor]

no, don't buy it. No T4 blessings/perks, and they aren't what you want on a Mk5 anyways

[coarse sequoia]

Gotcha

Thanks

[onyx sentinel]

if only the base wasn't so bad

[spice veldt]

the mk2 is the cleave variant

check the numbers on its h2

[keen harbor]

I stand corrected

[spice veldt]

none of the duelling swords were top tier before, but the mk4 duelling sword is now one of psyker's best melee options

[lunar hollow]

deimos users in shambles

[spice veldt]

😔

trajedy

[reef nacelle]

are toughness curios best for psyker?

[keen harbor]

They are a good choice now. You probably don't need 3x toughness curios, but run what you like.

[spice veldt]

i'd take at least one hp curio

[bleak tulip]

wat it for surge

grats

its kinda rare

[tiny swallow]

whats a good melee weapon to pair with surge/lightning staff and assail? ive been leveling ogryn but going back to my lv30 psyker in a bit

[bleak tulip]

duel 4, illisi, deimos, probably in that order

[spice veldt]

if you don't mind using assail as your hordeclear, then DS4

otherwise, chainsword, dclaws, illisi, etc.

[keen harbor]

Just don't take knife

[spice veldt]

it's fairly hard to pick an outright bad option nowadays

ah right the knife

much sad

[pale tiger]

what are best blessings for voidstrike staff ?

[keen harbor]

Surge and Nexus, or Surge and Flurry

[tiny swallow]

Oh good i like how that model looks. Im used to using the mk1 devils for the parry but since assail gets rid of needing that its w/e. What kinda situation would the sword be ideal/good for tho?

[pale tiger]

ok ty 🙂

[keen harbor]

Good luck farming for Surge, if you don't already have it

[bleak tulip]

nexus flurry is the logical alternative for us poor fucks who cant find surge

[spice veldt]

to dunk on crushers and maulers https://streamable.com/77q3s6

[tiny swallow]

[spice veldt]

(i'm somewhat cheating in this footage because I have both +carapace/+elite, and I would not typically run +elite anymore nowadays)

w/o +elite and only +carapace, a crit + normal weakspot will just barely miss out on a crusher two-shot by a 1-10 damage

[deft gorge]

build

[spice veldt]

or you have a little bit of peril for Warp RIder

for talents, make sure to have Warp Rider

the description says "...up to 20% damage", but you always get a +10% damage bonus at 0% peril and then up to 20% at 100% peril

[bleak tulip]

still hilarious fartshark moment

[keen harbor]

oh, they fixed that bug?

[spice veldt]

here's some infodump on the mk4 duelling sword

For blessings, Uncanny Strike + your pick of Riposte/Shred/Precognition
I prefer Riposte in general, and Precognition for melee/monstrosity maelstrom, but I think I am warming up to precognition in general.

For stats, Damage and Finesse are what you primarily care about.

• Cleave Damage only scales Unarmoured and Infested (it doesn't scale Flak because it's bugged)
• Penetration only scales Carapace (it doesn't scale Flak because it's bugged). With max Uncanny Strike stacks up, an 80% Penetration MK4 DS will only deal 1.068x more damage to Carapace than a 0% Penetration DS.
• Mobility is mobility.
  They do matter, but you're not losing out on too much if they're low.

For perks, you can pick among +Carapace/+Crit Chance/+Maniac/+Unyielding. For the below results, assume that you have Warp Rider taken (which gives +10% damage at 0% peril).

• +Carapace ensures a deterministic two-shot (both weakspots) on Maulers with max Uncanny Strike stacks. If you have a nearly perfect 80/80/80 dmg/finesse/pen Duelling Sword (or you have a little bit of peril for Warp Rider), then a weakspot & critical weakspot will two-shot a Crusher with max Uncanny Strike stacks.
• +Crit Chance helps with crits for some one-shot breakpoints and the aforementioned Crusher two-shot. It is admittedly a small bonus, but it is generally applying. For gambling addicts.
• +Maniac helps with reaching a Mutant one-shot with at least 2 Uncanny Strike stacks (or with a crit).
• +Unyielding is for boss DPS and the like.

[reef nacelle]

what blessings are good for melee?

[spice veldt]

for the duelling sword? it's the 2nd paragraph

basically uncanny strike + riposte/shred/precognition

[reef nacelle]

what does rending do

[bleak tulip]

armor pen

[spice veldt]

+Rending% contributes an additive effect to your armour damage modifiers.

If your attack deals 20% damage to Carapace, then +50% rending means that your attack now deals 70% damage to carapace.

If your attack deals 100% or more damage to an armour type, then every 1% of rending contributes to your armour damage modifiers at a reduced effectiveness of 0.25x. So, if your attack deals 100% and you had +100% rending, you would deal 125% damage instead.

The caveat to all of this is that rending% does not affect the Unarmoured or Infested armour types. (On the other hand, it affects the 4 other armour types)

basically, rending is very good to have, especially for the purposes of absolutely dunking on Crushers/Maulers

[primal aurora]

huh, is this good?

[reef nacelle]

why do i feel useeless vs monstrosoties

[spice veldt]

psyker moment

our boss DPS is our weakest point currently

[reef nacelle]

it feels bad

[bleak tulip]

I cant decide if I charge right clicks or just quell cancel left clicks

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I could prob do science but I still top the scoreboard in damnation pubs

[spice veldt]

i make the pro gamer move of avoiding monstrosity maelstroms while on psyker

[regal musk]

I see noticeable chunks knocked off monstrosities with fully charged voidstrike, But that might just be cos i generally just screw aroudn on malice lol

[proven stirrup]

I appreciate the input but I straight up don't have a kit capable of even approaching Damnation, nor a computer strong enough to handle the game at that level of chaos. I'm sort of stuck on the matter for now.

Best I can do is play casually until my PC finally dies and I have to upgrade

[reef nacelle]

it takes so long to farm mats on this game wth

[bleak tulip]

now imagine if you only got like a third of the mats you get now

well thats not entirely fair, that was only the caps

[reef nacelle]

you cas realistally craft a weapon every like 30 hours lol

[bleak tulip]

nah

its faster than that

[spice veldt]

mat gain is quite better on damnation mat gain is quite terrible on lower ddifu

[bleak tulip]

^

play damnation

[spice veldt]

roughly 3x better than malice

[reef nacelle]

yeah but you probably fail 3x more in solo

[spice veldt]

wtf was I trying to type at the end of my sentence

[proven stirrup]

Yeah I'm not playing damnation until I have at least a good spread of purples or some shit

[bleak tulip]

how long have you been awake

your hands are failing you

[regal musk]

All i want is guaranteed multiple weapon drops at the end of a mission. Boosted further by grims and scrips (maybe scrips guarantee curio?)
Maybe its just malice but its always suepr meh finishing a 20~ minute run for a single random lasgun as a Psyker lol

[spice veldt]

well i suppose I am losing out a bit on sleep

[proven stirrup]

And even then I expect to be carried hard because I'm not going to be able to improve at all with my bottleneck being my hardware. lmao

[spice veldt]

but it shouldn't have been that bad

[bleak tulip]

now imagine only getting a weapon drop every 5 missions

but yeah

[spice veldt]

you get guaranteed drops, but they're very peepee poopoo

[proven stirrup]

We have brunt's armory, weapon drops are gravy

[bleak tulip]

brunt's is useless for anything but buying high base value greens tbh

youre just pre bricking yourself

[regal musk]

Sure, but it also costs money.
Would be ncie to finish a Damnation and get a box of like 5~ random weapons

[proven stirrup]

This game's reward structure is hopeless

[bleak tulip]

okay but chances are thats just like 10k money

[proven stirrup]

Too many people want too many different things out of their experience.

[bleak tulip]

since most weapon drops suck

[proven stirrup]

Well the white gambling is all I need

I like the idea of taking a weapon from nothing to god-tier. Yeah it's hard, but it's a more worthwhile use of my time grinding when I have nothing else to pour the mats into that could potentially be better

[regal musk]

Yeah, but itd be essentially a source of free blessings to sac to Hadron.
Heck, even an extra source of dockets per run if you just vendor the drops.

[reef nacelle]

is red indicator on crosshair a crit?

[regal musk]

Red is kill

[proven stirrup]

^

[reef nacelle]

what is a crit?

[queen fog]

Yellow is weakspot, crit has funny sound

[proven stirrup]

It's more of a visual audio cue

[regal musk]

You get a sound pop but its not super noticeable

With guns i also see an extra flare on the muzzle when crits go off

[spice veldt]

there's no hitmarker for crits

[plucky flax]

Anyone play a keystone-less build?

[spice veldt]

there are yellow damage numbers to indicate a crit in the psykhanium or with the healthbar mod

[spice veldt]

meeeeeeeee

but no yellow hitmarker

[plucky flax]

Hrm what does that look like? I'm trying to make an assail purga build. Assail for shooter, purga for horde, duelling sword for specials.

With purga you don't need any keystone so warp charges are wasted.

[spice veldt]

in my particular case, my keystone-less build is because I decided to go for all of the toughness nodes

[plucky flax]

So sad I can't take wildfire with assail.

This locking is ass.

[plucky flax]

Nor psykinetic's aura.

Crit chance aura and not cd reduction aura.

[queen fog]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-what-im-sayin-falling-gif-25685028

[spice veldt]

i'd have to go into mind in motion for CDR 😔

[queen fog]

That don’t sound too bad I like mind in motion

[spice veldt]

+20% warp damage & +4% crits, or Mind in Motion & +17.5% CDR

it's basically a do-nothing node to me

[reef nacelle]

is there no way to see crit chance?

[plucky flax]

What I got. I don't need fast assail charge (I think) cos I won't abuse it.

Need to test it in a game.

I dunno if 5% range damage would increase soulblaze burn or not. I assume no.

[regal musk]

Isnt the Burn DoT fixed per stack?

[spice veldt]

has a base damage, but scales off of any active perks/blessings/talents/etc.

[plucky flax]

No you can increase it with perk.

[spice veldt]

(including rending%)

make of this information what you will

perilous combustion + crusher patrol + uncanny strike

[regal musk]

That new? I dont remember the DoT being affected by anything in the last time i was playing lol

[spice veldt]

it always did

[plucky flax]

Well my question is 5% damage would increase soulblaze burn or not. I guess your answer give it a maybe, more than likely yet.

[spice veldt]

you'd hear people remarking on Ascendant Blaze builds with a pinning fire autopistol

[regal musk]

I didnt hear anything about pistols, ive been out for many months lol

[spice veldt]

o

prob just people not being aware of blessings affecting DoTs at that stage of the game's lifespan

[proven stirrup]

Not exactly something you can parse unless you live in the meat grinder

[spice veldt]

since that was also back when you could kill your teammates with a Haymaker + Bleed knife

[regal musk]

lmao

[spice veldt]

(hit barrel with a bleed knife -> inflict bleed onto your teammates -> each bleed tick has a chance of proccing Haymaker and instantly killing them)

[deft gorge]

smite + charges is the pro gamer move right

[hearty sedge]

A or B?

[reef nacelle]

so is there no way to see your crit chance?

[ornate hamlet]

Finally some good fcn stuff...

[sullen bobcat]

Good news siblings!
Psykers have the highest base crit rate of 7.5%

Enjoy

[spice veldt]

o shit

base default?

[hearty sedge]

Crit build voidstrike psyker is unironically the most broken build.

[spice veldt]

very cool

[sullen bobcat]

Yeah

[plucky flax]

Hrm maybe I won't need soulstealer with mettle.

[sullen bobcat]

Ogryn has 2.5%

[spice veldt]

HELL YEAH

[sullen bobcat]

Other two are 5% as expected

[spice veldt]

GET FUCKED OGRYNS

WOOOOOOOO

[plucky flax]

I also use the big dome so it has a lot of toughness regen.

[sullen bobcat]

Ogryns don't seem like the type with a lot of finese tbh

[hearty sedge]

[deft gorge]

ogryns also have very high damage to compensate,,,

[hearty sedge]

If you haven't tried out a crit based staff yet though, try it out.

[plucky flax]

There's no toughness node to take tho so I guess I'll keep soulstealer.

If they make these so you can go slightly up it would create a lot more build diversity.

psykinetic aura my beloved

[hearty sedge]

Soulstealer my beloved.

[sullen bobcat]

Ogryns still have innate 50% toughness DR and 25% general DR I think? I see a ogryn_base_tank_passive, but I don't see any actual code where it does something

[hearty sedge]

Nothing like gaining 100% toughness because you kill 7 trash in a single click.

[plucky flax]

Psykinetic's aura is just an extra aura. Not even a main aura and it decreases cd for the whole team.

Psyker is balanced.

[spice veldt]

at least they realized that +15% teamwide CDR isn't balanced at all

[ornate hamlet]

what do you think the rating would be

[idle bay]

OP Assail and Void - are parts of the balance, that no one sees 🙂

[sullen bobcat]

Ogryns are going to have an effective 62.5% toughness DR

Which is kinda ridiculous ngl

[spice veldt]

very very curious

[sullen bobcat]

But I'm not entirely sure if that code is running

[hearty sedge]

Don't forget the toughness regen aura node psyker also has.

[ornate hamlet]

if i increased blessing and perks

[plucky flax]

Kinda tanky? @spice veldt how much toughness you have?

[sullen bobcat]

Ogryns have a tank passive attribute, but there's nothing in there besides having a descvription and a bunch of toher random things

[ornate hamlet]

hello

[sullen bobcat]

Wait

[ornate hamlet]

tell me about this

[sullen bobcat]

I'm dumb

[spice veldt]

pathetic

[sullen bobcat]

I should have opened it

[plucky flax]

RIP 172 hp and playing double grims.

[spice veldt]

😔

[sullen bobcat]

Yeah so you literally get 62.5% toughness DR as ogryn

What

[idle bay]

Do we need toughness i thought 109 is fine

[spice veldt]

i need all of the toughness

i'll take your toughness

[dawn wolf]

Not health?

[sullen bobcat]

Health gets 25% DR

[hearty sedge]

[sullen bobcat]

For toughness damage, the damage is based on the damage you would take to health, so if you have a DR on health AND a DR on toughness, they multiply together and double dip

[reef nacelle]

im looking at healthbar mod options and it isnt there

[hearty sedge]

Inb4 wounds are bad.

[spice veldt]

yellow numbers are there by default

[dawn wolf]

I guess with all the Regen right at the base of the tree it would be easy to have it always topped up.

[hearty sedge]

Yellow are crit? Thats the base game.

[spice veldt]

I find it particularly fun to run into ranged patrols and to just out-regen with my toughness

[plucky flax]

4 wounds gigachad

[hearty sedge]

Sometimes my head just explodes.

[idle bay]

I have both no toughness and no health to show for and i'm perfectly fine. If i die - i die 🙂

[plucky flax]

No some build I have 90 toughness it's fine.

[spice veldt]

i think the optimal way to play is to just run the shield ult and stack hp

well, you don't even need the shield

[plucky flax]

Curious are super personal and subjective. Don't let others tell you what to run with curios.

[hearty sedge]

And I don't like the one wound vision.

[reef nacelle]

so this is crit?

[spice veldt]

empathic evasion and spamming dodges goes brrr

[spice veldt]

nah, orange indicates a weakspot/headshot

[hearty sedge]

Headshot. Crit is a brighter yellow.

[ornate hamlet]

Can someone help me please
Will i get 550 rating if i increased base blessing and perks

[spice veldt]

if you grab something like a laspistol which has a higher crit chance, you'll see crits

[primal aurora]

why it goes brrr?

[spice veldt]

straight up ranged immunity for just critting

[hearty sedge]

I think it would go more whoosh

[reef nacelle]

i craft this last night lol

[hearty sedge]

Not yet. Blessings really got shook up

Voidstrike is extremely strong, trauma is strong, purgitus got even better against trash, and surge got the nerf bad.

[idle bay]

Wrong, Surge became different kind of staff

It was mixed CC - and SHIT damage. Now it's good damage and barely any CC

[hearty sedge]

Its okay damage. Its only 720 against a single target.

[plucky flax]

Disagree with new surge as nerf.

[hearty sedge]

That is about the same as a fully charged voidstrike or trauma without the AOE

[idle bay]

Though i used to love old Surge staff....

[plucky flax]

Aye I played a lot of old surge and the new one is very strong.

[hearty sedge]

Now you can use it whenver with Smite!

And do even less damage!

[idle bay]

I use Surge staff with Smite

[plucky flax]

Same. Xd

[idle bay]

There are never enough lightnings

[hearty sedge]

So lemme tell a secret. The Smite upgrade that gives +1 chain also applies to surge staff.

[dawn wolf]

Does it stun mutants/crushers?

[idle bay]

That is why i DON'T take it 🙂

[plucky flax]

Yeah if it's the main target.

900k damage with non-bugged smite and surge staff.

[hearty sedge]

Voidstrike can now damage bulwarks through the shield. Which is hilarious.

[spark fractal]

Surge charges extremely fast now and it has massive aim assist, with tons of crits to proc talents, it’s by no means a bad staff

[plucky flax]

The range also seems really far.

[hearty sedge]

Oh absolutely. It is not a bad staff. But I'm not sure about the rankings as I'm still playing around with the retooled blessings.

Warp nexus got a frankly stupid buff that I'm considering replacing flury for.

10-15% extra crit is nothing to sneeze at.

[plucky flax]

Don't you always run both nexus and flurry on surge anyway.

[hearty sedge]

I've been running the new buffed terrifying barrage.

If you're within 15m (8m currently BC of a bug) of a target, just full supression to all targets on kill.

Extremely easy to cripple basically any mixed hored.

[plucky flax]

Someone claims barrage doesn't do anything.

[hearty sedge]

Because close ranged is bugged ATM. Last patch it triggered at 15m away.

Now it triggers 8m away.

Where 'melee' takes over.

But its clearly a bug, so it probably will be fixed.

Melee, 8m or less, Close 15, long 30

Thats how it was before this patch; it got changed accidentially I guess.

[terse rivet]

Someone needs to make a Psykernomicon. How is it that OGRYNS…. Have an entire Ogrynomicon but nobody has made a Psykernomicon. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U1G2MJ5-OlPt7A5sKnWWaWZDdkwyw7Ke/view

THEY CANT EVEN READ

[bleak tulip]

its just not called that

[terse rivet]

My god thank you, I spent hours searching the internet for anything even close.

[wispy iris]

man what the fuck

[queen fog]

You wouldn’t have to thank him if u saw the pin beforehand

[bleak tulip]

I mean a lot of pins are outdated

so I kinda get it

[terse rivet]

Look man, generally things like that get blasted all over the darktide reddit for one. For two this class rework is fairly new so I half expected that nobody had taken the time to do the extensive research. For three just let me say thank you without your pushes up glasses on nose comment. Cheers

[deft gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/gendo-evangelion-glasses-neon-genesis-gif-12459709

[queen fog]

Yea im just bustin ur balls lad, nothing personal meant promise

Ogryns are way more eye catching guide wise than psykers considering they got to be in the game menu

So I don’t blame u for knowing about that one before the psyker one

[terse rivet]

I gotta say the presentation on the ogryn guide is a lot cleaner as well. JUST SAYING. Easier to make a comprehensive ogryn guide as well when they have all of 15 weapons total.

[queen fog]

I suggest using inspect on that modifier to see, but u sound like ur on the nose rn

[lethal raptor]

warp siphon or disrupt destiny for trauma staff? I can't seem to test disrupt destiny in the psykanium, so I find it hard to judge its effectiveness

[spice veldt]

you can test DD if you have invisibility off, since it doesn't mark enemies when their AI is off it seems

but the gist is that DD is generally not worth it

there's a bug that makes marked enemies occasionally not glow, which eliminates the point of the keystone in the first place

[lethal raptor]

Ah, good to know. I'll keep it on my revolver psyker then, but stick to warp siphon for trauma

[stark notch]

What are some good blessings and persk for surge staff?

I know crit is good, but is there something in particular for it that I should be running?

[velvet hornet]

not my pic but a friend's
that is the craziest thing i've seen...

[deft gorge]

wasted luck on a tac axe xD

[velvet hornet]

hahah

550 with no rerolls

[fluid knot]

Sir, thats offensive

[idle bay]

It's unnecessary skill for Ogryns. Others read to them 🙂

And show pictures

[fluid knot]

thats why the Ogrynomicon has pictures in it 😄

[empty onyx]

Just ran into a Psyker who exploded herself to death...twice. 6 Wounds worth of overloads. And the first time she died literally at the Medicae station; after not taking her charge. 😦

[acoustic seal]

Anyone got a good build for Assail with the tree? I just can't seem to get it right.

[spice veldt]

take soulstealer, perilous combustion, the crit talents, true aim, and the rest is whatever

make sure not to use force swords with assail, or at the very least not hold them out while the shards are still in the air since force swords break assail's targeting because of shenanigans

[acoustic seal]

Hate to ask but mind showing an example of the tree super new to this and I'm just wanting to understand correctly since I keep screwing up lol

[snow rock]

quick question do staffs share blessings or all seperate?

[spice veldt]

unfortunately not, since our 4 current staffs each belong to different familirs

[spice veldt]

I kind of run a deranged build so take the skill tree that I'm about to post with a grain of salt https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1163057356939198474/image.png?ex=653e3092&is=652bbb92&hm=52d094914ab4ef8de52d9182891982da6cd627b37a8879866006109fbc385dbb&

[snow rock]

Ah ok thanks, guess ill need to keep hunting

[acoustic seal]

Looks way more thought out than my last try lol.

[spice veldt]

so some notes about my skill tree
you probably want to take the CDR aura instead

my skill tree goes for all of the toughness nodes which is meh

[snow rock]

what would you put on this, charge rate is low but the difference between it and a higher % seems almost neglible

[spice veldt]

if you want to spam Assail, take points from the bottom-left branch and put them into Empowered Psionics

I am playing a somewhat suboptimal build since I didn't feel like spamming assail too much

[spice veldt]

yeah charge on vstrike is what it is compared to, say, the trauma

[obtuse walrus]

What would you guys recomend on a Void Staff for Perks

[spice veldt]

I'd replace run n gun with Surge on vstrike since Psyker can now deterministically roll for ranged crits with True Aim

[snow rock]

surge is the double shot on crit right?

[spice veldt]

ye

[snow rock]

ill keep my eye out ty

[acoustic seal]

All I've been able to do is infinite lightning but I wanted to be of more use to my team

[spice veldt]

if you don't have it, then warp flurry is fine in the meantime

[acoustic seal]

So how's this look talent tree wise?

[arctic citrus]

left tree is better for asail

you get more consistant damage buffs

[spice veldt]

looks fine; you'd want to go for +empowered Psionics charge on elite kill rather than lodestone unless assail is your main hordeclear

[arctic citrus]

not just a 1 time buff

also if u crunch numbers at max stacks (witch u will alwas have) each yandu dart does 10 more damage then the powered ones

300 vs 310 i think

but u dont get the other buffs

from mid tree

[spice veldt]

id prefer EP + true aim than warp charges for assail spam

[arctic citrus]

na

[spice veldt]

since EP also has the unlisted effect of doubling assail's target limit

[arctic citrus]

but thats only once every so ofter

left tree is constant 24% more damage

with max stacks

[acoustic seal]

Left tree at the end instead?

[arctic citrus]

granted u need the last upgrade to make it worth it

but ive been carring damnation games w it

[acoustic seal]

If I'm understanding right I'll try it.

[arctic citrus]

go into psyninarium to check numbers but i think my math is right

[acoustic seal]

@arctic citrus so like this?

[arctic citrus]

one sec ill show u my build

[acoustic seal]

Sounds great

[arctic citrus]

top 2 upgrades are NESSISARY for psy on dam

i like the flame upgrade for the blast cuz the other one is ass\

for refrence each yandu dart does about 250 damage and at max peril it only does 200

no value from the upgrade

but the flames are nice for some extra dps

also snag that upgrade in the mid tree for a constant 10 to 20% more damage at all times combined with ur 24% you get from max stax

you should be one shotting snipers and 2 shoting gunners w it

on dam

[acoustic seal]

I'll definitely try it thanks so much

[snow rock]

Dome shield be aight in that build you think?

[arctic citrus]

no prob

it should work just fine im just partal to blast to save my ass when i get a brain anurism

[summer prairie]

you should take soulstealer rather than quietitude with essentially every build right now

[snow rock]

haha fair enough, i usually run scream but really wanna try shield

[arctic citrus]

also make sure ur staf u take has +25 damage to carapice and armored enimies cuz jandu darts are ASS at dealing with armored enimies

[summer prairie]

but better to just drop battle meditation and peril toughness

[acoustic seal]

Final bother are my staffs good and what am I looking for sword wise?

[arctic citrus]

both really good they should complement the build

quite well

[acoustic seal]

I'm not seeing soulstealer I must be missing it which perk is that?

[summer prairie]

top left, 15% toughness on warp kill

[acoustic seal]

I'll remember thanks!

[snow rock]

This update made the game sooo much more fun with these builds, so happy got an excuse to play it again

[arctic citrus]

also personaly i like the deimos sword for armoured enimies if theyre giving u a hard time

[summer prairie]

If you use a forcesword with assail, it's worth noting that switching to your sword kills assail tracking

[arctic citrus]

to be fair if ur using assail youll have it out 99% of the time

[acoustic seal]

I'm guessing Illisi isn't good?

[arctic citrus]

not sure but this is the staff ive been using cuz the flames go through bulwark sheilds for some reason

[acoustic seal]

I'll definitely look for a purge staff next.

How's this statroll?

[arctic citrus]

not high rating but ive been kicking damnations ass with it so i havent takin it off

[arctic citrus]

goddam

the emperor is kind

[acoustic seal]

Any perks I should keep an eye out for?

[spice veldt]

illisi is nice, but the role it fills isn't suited for most builds nowadays

[arctic citrus]

honestly +25 for carapace and flack is good cuz thats mostly what ull be using the sword for anyway

[spice veldt]

and we live in the era of maulers/crusher patrols

[arctic citrus]

tru

@spice veldt what do u think the best staff is rn?

[spice veldt]

same as what most people think probably--voidstrike

generally speaking

trauma is nice on melee maelstrom id say

[acoustic seal]

One last question the power up and prioritize target penances can you do them with Assail or is there a different build I should work on those with?

[arctic citrus]

i thougth so but ive also heard its only really good with the brain burst ability

so i wasnt sure i should invest in one

[spice veldt]

vstrike kind of supersedes the need for BB since it can also pierce bulwark shields