psyker-class

[cinder moon]

there's a WC synergy with using warp kills to spread wildfire further, which you can abuse with regular force sword attacks

[strong gulch]

Perilous combustion needs a special or elite to die

[nocturne stream]

How much dmg is 4 stacks

it used to be pretty bad iirc idk about now tho

[spice veldt]

it's the same

4 stacks is whatever, but soulblaze damage stacks nonlinearly

[sonic coral]

I'm going to be trying to use the obscurus again also

I know it's just a "worse" version of the stabby one but I've been looking at damage numbers and attack patterns and I'm sort of feeling it, not really but sort of

[cinder moon]

soulblaze is underrated

[sonic coral]

I'm building a kill everything for everyone so they don't have to build because if I don't win a match today I'm going to lose my mind

[rose dagger]

Perilous combustion is quite good on auric

[severe socket]

Will the Psychers lightning hands get nerfed?

[cinder moon]

empowered psionics interaction with smite will likely get changed

i would expect smite to get a direct buff though, since it's not actually that strong in itself

[narrow crane]

the bug will get fixed yes

Smite shouldn't get buffed, don't think they'll do that

[unreal tapir]

i almost feel bad for my teammates on auric. i voidstaff an elite group and the entire map is blinded by soulblaze for the next 30 seconds

[zenith cosmos]

When you find that build tell me bc I just lost again trying to carry on malice

[unreal tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[cinder moon]

smite's peril gen is outrageous without EP

that's what will likely get buffed

[severe socket]

will lightning still be meta after?>

[rose dagger]

Yea my rig and my eyes hate smite lmao

[zenith cosmos]

What needs a nerf lighting doesn’t do a lot of damage

[narrow crane]

peril gen will likely get fixed, but I thought they said that the peril gen wasn't intended

[rose dagger]

Greatly prefer assail psykers, Ive been using good ol honest brain burst lately

[zenith cosmos]

It just shocks them

[rose dagger]

The infinite smite needs a nerf/patch obviously

[cinder moon]

i hadn't heard that about the peril gen being unintended, suppose it was a random comment here or on FS forums

[severe socket]

as a Zealot it's just annoying when m,y psycher friend just stuns everything and kills it

[rose dagger]

Just like warp charge ult refund interaction with bubble shield

[zenith cosmos]

Stun but the kill part never happens for me

[cinder moon]

kill the guys they're stunning please

[zenith cosmos]

So maybe I’m missing something in my build

[cinder moon]

you're not

smite doesn't really kill

[zenith cosmos]

Ya I stun them all

[narrow crane]

I might have misremembered but I thought one of the cm's said they already know about peril gen being too high on smite, and it wasn't intended/they're gonna address it

[zenith cosmos]

Then they won’t kill them

Then I die

I get mad

Lol

[minor vigil]

For Empowered Psyonics, can you proc the Assail bonus with a kill from Assail?

[zenith cosmos]

Infinite smite which one is that

[cinder moon]

smite + empowered psionics

[narrow crane]

get outta malice, I've lost more games on Malice than any other difficulty and it's cus you have noobs who don't know how to play + people trying to fucking true solo everything

[cinder moon]

1 stack = infinite smite (until you get hitstunned)

[narrow crane]

and then everyone gets got

[rose dagger]

Why'd you tell him, I quit out games that have infinite smite psykers lol

They do it the whole game it kills performance

[cinder moon]

sounds like a personal problem

[rose dagger]

True. But it's dumb anyway

[severe socket]

Yeah, I play a CC Crusher Zealot and I'm f ing useless with a lightning Psycher

[cinder moon]

crusher zealots are useless anyway

[severe socket]

Not at CC

[cinder moon]

i've literally never seen a good crusher zealot

they're always requiring help

[reef nacelle]

whats bets melee weapon for voidstrikee?

[rose dagger]

Illisi imo

[narrow crane]

Psyker melee is all good, but you want some horde clear melee preferably. Illisi is probably the best

[reef nacelle]

even with assail?

im struggling vs the running dudes lol who charge

[cinder moon]

you're not supposed to face tank them

dodge until they stop attacking

[reef nacelle]

i dont do much dmg to them

[rose dagger]

O muties, duelling sword is best for them

[cinder moon]

i assumed he meant ragers

[rose dagger]

2 quick heavy attacks

[spice veldt]

dunk on them ragers https://streamable.com/ne9i5s

[reef nacelle]

this is my setup atm

[spice veldt]

illisi's special can also stagger ragers

[cinder moon]

illisi push will stagger them as well

or can; i think if they're in the attack pattern it won't work reliably

[narrow crane]

which enemies specifically? the big yelling mutants? or the armored maulers? or the ragers with the dual axes?

[reef nacelle]

muties

[narrow crane]

ragers have axes right

w/e

[reef nacelle]

my voidstrike sucks vs them

[zenith cosmos]

Ya I got me a level 21 and 2 11’s and a 9

[reef nacelle]

i can deal with armoured enemies pretty easily

[rose dagger]

Assail can clear ragers

[zenith cosmos]

Pretty sick for malice

[reef nacelle]

ive been using assail for the muties

[cinder moon]

malice is where you're supposed to actually learn how to play the game

[narrow crane]

Dueling sword is best for them, they provide the best dodge and theyre great at one tapping mutants

[rose dagger]

Assail not great for muties

[narrow crane]

Assail is pretty bad for mutants yeah

[unique mist]

Do not lol

assail is hordeclear only, especially on heresy and above

[ocean ice]

aint no way.

[reef nacelle]

i should be using melee on them right?

i suppose i need to craft a decent melee wep

[narrow crane]

This would be ideal but actually it's where most people learn to play the game horribly wrong

[unique mist]

voidstrike them as they charge, dodge to the side, melee them to finish them off

[unique mist]

I played the game right

I started on sedition and went up one tier at a time

[spice veldt]

i like to assail mutants if they're far away enough to set up a one-shot for my DS

[cinder moon]

if it weren't for breakpoint differences to higher tiers, yeah

but learning pacing, dodging, blocking etc is all crucial in malice

[unique mist]

Changing tiers when I was comfortable and could reliably clear my current tier

now I'm on damnation

And I need to upgrade my weapons before I get to auric

[spice veldt]

i hanged out on malice back when it was the optimal way to farm mats, and then I got incentivized to play higher diffs cuz they buffed mat gain

[unique mist]

Double plasteel weekends when

[cinder moon]

i was mostly playing heresy/damnation before patch 13 because that's where most of the good players were, but now it's a 50% or better chance of failure because of xbox assail crutchers, so it's back to malice for speedrunning mats because malice is easy to hard carry

[narrow crane]

I think what I'm referring to specifically is that Malice tends to get the most diverse kinds of players with all very different experience/skill levels, and the result is usually no comms, people rushing through the level for xp, people hanging back looking for mats, and then one by one they get killed by a special and everything falls apart.

[cinder moon]

i just run voidstrike/DS/soulblaze for malice to hard carry

60% of the time it works every time

[reef nacelle]

what do you guys run in auric damnation

[unique mist]

Yes exactly wow we have the same mm experience lol

[narrow crane]

On paper, yes, people should be able to granularly move up difficulty to difficulty, but Malice was by far the most toxic difficulty I went through when I started.

[reef nacelle]

i just dinged 30 today

never played a tide game and ive done a few auric damnations

[narrow crane]

which is why I usually recommend people just make the jump to heresy, people are usually more about sticking together there

[spice veldt]

i run assail + duelling sword cuz op, and then my ranged weapon is vrak 3 headhunter/trauma/purg/void

[cinder moon]

heresy and damnation are both unbearable with literal level 15s who also lack mechanical knowledge

shroudfield zealot thinking they're invincible and aggroing every room they can without clearing anything out

[narrow crane]

can you even get into damnation as level 15

isn't there a level cap

[nocturne stream]

Heresy is like level 9 or smth

[narrow crane]

rip

Oh wait I think it's Auric that's capped at 30

damn it's been so long

[cinder moon]

i think it's 11 for damnation

i'm not kidding when i say i've seen people under 20 in damnation

i queud up for an auric damn the other day and the vet literally had no idea where to go at the very beginning of the match

i just quit at that point

[slate oasis]

do sniper gauntlets and lights out missions no longer occur outside of maelstrom and auric missions? or are they just insanely rare?

[narrow crane]

I've run into one level 20 who joined and said "please dont be annoyed, I have 4 other characters, I can keep up" and he was right

[cinder moon]

i used rare portraits on my leveling characters to convey i'm not a scrub

but when you see someone with the level 30 class portrait or the imperial edition portrait queuing into auric damn

alt-f4

[rose dagger]

I like the psykers class portrait 😞

[spice veldt]

the 250 assassination missions portrait is the best

[rose dagger]

👁️

[cinder moon]

class portrait with the 3 purity seals = OK

[reef nacelle]

whats the best way to farm crafting mats?

[cinder moon]

don't fail runs

play malice or above

[spice veldt]

play low-int damnation and/or linear maps

[narrow crane]

Damnation low intensity

it's a drag

[rose dagger]

Damnation has like twice as many mats as heresy (unless they changed that)

[cinder moon]

if you can play malice without taking any health damage, go up to heresy. if you can play heresy without taking any health damage, go up to damnation

[reef nacelle]

so when players pick mats up in the run do they get shared

and multied at the end by difficult?

[cinder moon]

yeah, all mats are shared

[nimble adder]

Hey what’s a good gun for psyker?

[cinder moon]

there are more physical mat pickups in the higher difficulties, it's just cumulative

[rose dagger]

Vraks

[slate oasis]

I do this too lol. I always have way more faith in someone who's low level when they have a grindy or damnation portrait

[rose dagger]

Can't wait to get the 500 special mission portrait

[cinder moon]

i generally stick with indefatigable

i've only ever seen 2 other players with it

[nimble adder]

So is there a good gun for psyker?

[cinder moon]

lots

pick your poison and use warpcharge/brainburst build

[acoustic osprey]

should i swap unarmored to flak?

[rose dagger]

Indefatigable looks really similar to other frames

[cinder moon]

it looks most similar to the 10 mission one, but it's pretty obviously different

at least to me

[rose dagger]

really want the 250 investigation frame, that one looks sick

[cinder moon]

i saw someone with the top tier rescue frame the other day

i expected more from them

[reef nacelle]

how do you access mission table when youre not near it?

is there a hotkey

[rose dagger]

Mod

[frank moat]

I want the 250 Espionage frame so bad

[rose dagger]

To hotkey that and melks, hadrons, etc

[frank moat]

Remains to be seen whether I can grind it out before Fat Shark drops the handful of leaked AdMech frames

[modern flame]

Anyone having trouble with the power up penance? It says to kill elites or specials with brain burst while at maximum charges but it’s not making any progress. Malice difficulty

[rose dagger]

I'm semi close to the 250 assassination

Only like .. 80 more to go

[inner remnant]

Promising or nah?

[rose dagger]

That charge rate is pain

Quell speed dump isn't so bad

[inner remnant]

that blessing seems.. good

[rose dagger]

It's fun at the very least

Warp nexus/surge is the meta combo of course

Flurry/quell on weakpt hit good too (my old meta roll)

[frank moat]

Run ‘n Gun is awful my sibling

It only applies to the primary bolt

[rose dagger]

O that's terrible lmao

[inner remnant]

i see.

well, it's just a plasteel dump to get a good blessing to extract

[acoustic osprey]

i would save it for 360+ for better chance of t4 blessing to extract

[cinder moon]

run n gun is one of the most frustrating blessings

marginally good on some weapons, completely useless on others

why it even exists on the kickback is beyond me

ok, you can shoot one round while sprinting, but you can't reload

[slow raven]

they should 100% just make run n gun work on the right click

it wouldn't be op, i guarantee 90% of people will still pick a dps blessing, because damage is poggers and qol is for nerds

[reef nacelle]

I got kicked by some RPers

?

[frank moat]

Staves only have like 4 blessings each anyway

[broken pollen]

need to respec my psyker, 1st time since update. What's the staff I should go for and what's the build i should use? preferably something less likely to get nerfed next patch

[frank moat]

Would be nice if there were more than two good ones

[desert snow]

trauma staff

[harsh urchin]

overtuned: likely to be nerfed but very strong: voidstrike, assail
strong but unlikely to be nerf: trauma, purga, gunpsyker with vraks

[rose dagger]

Should just remove the armor/bulwark shield penetration of voidstrike. Maybe decrease it's AoE if they want it to be more single target

[harsh urchin]

I think the penetration is pretty important for the weapon lol

[broken pollen]

what are best purg staff blessings and perks?

[harsh urchin]

best bet is probably to reduce the cleave from 11 to 1.5 or so; and increase the heat generation of the weapon

[harsh urchin]

so it remains a strong single target headshot weapon

[rose dagger]

It should be good against carapace on headshot, it penetrating bulwark shield seems kinda scuffed

[broken pollen]

got this one

[harsh urchin]

yar that one is good

[broken pollen]

sweet, is illisi still meta or was it deimos

[harsh urchin]

i'd recommend deimos or duelingsword with purg

just to shore up your weaknesses

[broken pollen]

deimos dump stat, blessings and perks? i gotta build one up sadly

[rose dagger]

Warp resistance for all force swords

Is dump

[thin finch]

without EP brain burst sucks imo

[broken pollen]

big thanks for all the help

[broken pollen]

uncanny strike good for dueling sword?

[rose dagger]

Best in slot

[broken pollen]

melk's got this one and im eyeing it up

[rose dagger]

Uncanny strike kinda makes up for the low penetration

[broken pollen]

no clue what to do to it to make it meta though

like second blessing or what to replace the stamina or infested enemies with

[cinder moon]

i like that it's the plasmagun for psykers though

except better than the plasma because that thing has no ammo economy and fucked BPs now

[west smelt]

Is it fine without it if I just use only* it on far-away elites?

[rose dagger]

I'm fine with voidstrike being the bolt staff of DT

[broken pollen]

oh shit that's a mkV, i should be going for a mk IV dueling sword yeah?

[thin finch]

I tried it on auric damnation just now and sometime it would not even kill a pox flamer in one hit

[rose dagger]

Tho headshotting with bolt definitely feels harder than with voidstrike

[cinder moon]

BB is fine with warpcharges since you're using it to buff your weapons and the blitz is literally only for killing rogue snipers/dogs/trappers

you don't use BB on anything besides dogs/trappers/snipers

maybe the occasional shotgunner to start a fire in a room

[west smelt]

Yeah that's my overall strategy

[thin finch]

if you are able to consistently keep your 15 stacls of DD , it may still works, but the charge time being slow, I think EP makes it very much tolerable

[nimble adder]

That headhunter auto gun is awesome

[sick veldt]

is the one on the left better or is penetration key enough that the 9% less pen hurts it

[broken pollen]

yeah im looking up in search for this channel and still can't figure out what best blessings for deimos are as of the rebalance patch

[sick veldt]

figure i'd be better off taxing the extra finesse over the missing pen

[harsh urchin]

i'd trash both and keep rolling from brunts

[sick veldt]

I play too many other games for that 🙂

[harsh urchin]

if you're too poor i'd aim for 70 dmg/pen and 78-80 finesse

finesse is the most important stat

[sick veldt]

def too poor lol

[rose dagger]

Feel like cleave damage and mobility are the dumps

[sick veldt]

got it, thank you

[west fox]

I have such mixed feelings about this weapon

[harsh urchin]

yeah sadly finesse is attackspeed which affects how the game plays

rather than just your damage numbers

[rose dagger]

I love surgical hand cannon revolver

Why mixed

[west fox]

60% dmg

[rose dagger]

O that base roll

Yea

[west fox]

every other stat 80

bruh

[strong gulch]

Brunt kept giving low power revolvers today.

He's on some shit

[west fox]

I've spent about 1.5 mill on revolvers today

and most have been about 60-70% dmg

1.5 mill and not a single 80 dmg one

[harsh urchin]

I personally pref crucian/point blank on mine

I find myself almost never ADS'ing with it

it's more a quickswap kill swap back weapon lol

[rose dagger]

Interesting

[west fox]

Crucian isn't a huge deal breaker for me, as I'm rocking True Aim on my psyker

[harsh urchin]

yeah i can't imagine charging it up for 3 seconds

[west fox]

So I get that guaranteed crit a lot

[harsh urchin]

lololol

[strong gulch]

My brain works on dial-up so surgical is good for me. 😂

[west fox]

tier 4 means you only need to aim for 1 sec

[harsh urchin]

no lol

tier4 means you need to aim for 3 seconds

[west fox]

oh yeah

mb

I'm an ogryn main. Math is hard

[rose dagger]

For 100% crit I guess, still get big chance for rending if you don't wait that long

[cinder moon]

speedload/point blank for revolver gunker

[spice veldt]

get dat deterministic crit

[strong gulch]

manifesting crit

[harsh urchin]

handcannon is literally the only reason to run the weapon

imagine replacing it with speedload lol

[west fox]

As I say though, I'm rocking True Aim. I'm primariliy a melee psyker, so if I swap to my pistol, it's to blow a crit into something

[cinder moon]

why do you need rending if it's dead after you shoot it

[west fox]

5 weakspot hits is easy enough to get in no time with combat knife

[harsh urchin]

to buff assail

[west fox]

Assail. I sleep

[cinder moon]

i use revolver with warpcharges/bb

6wc revolver = most things are dead

[harsh urchin]

except any armored

[cinder moon]

3 headshots at most

[rose dagger]

Assail not even that crazy on auric

[reef nacelle]

how are you supposed to melee ravagers?

[rose dagger]

Just mindlessly easy

[harsh urchin]

yikes lol

[reef nacelle]

do you have to push them back lol

[spice veldt]

depends on the melee

Ragers have stagger resistance during their 4-hit combos

[west fox]

Jab them with the special punch on knife

[spice veldt]

certain attacks will ignore this stagger resistance

e.g., duelling sword special

https://streamable.com/1jtm0k

[west fox]

Revolver to the face ignores it

[cinder moon]

learn to dodge ragers and attack when they're done their combo

[spice veldt]

i would consider that as part of why it's crazy though

[rose dagger]

I've just been running lame ole brain burst lately cause the other two are kinda cringe to me at this point 😬

Plus my rig hates smite

[cinder moon]

infinite smite was fun for a day or two

[spice veldt]

it's an aim assist weapon with no falloff in effectiveness due to range (up to a certain range, of course, but you're usually taking engagements within those ranges), and it is beholden to a target limit instead of a cleave limit

[cinder moon]

but i got tired of people not killing whatever i'm smiting

[spice veldt]

and having very minimal opportunity cost for using it

[cinder moon]

assail also sucks at dealing with snipers/gunners across the room

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/ydfsds

[cinder moon]

you need constant LoS and it takes X amount of seconds to reach the target

BB meanwhile

[spice veldt]

the RMB doesn't need constant los https://streamable.com/2qcjd6

[cinder moon]

ok, now tell that to all the xbox scrubs crutching on assail

because all they do is m1

[spice veldt]

...

what do pub players have to do with this

[cinder moon]

you know that assail's going to be tuned based on how the majority of players are using it

[spice veldt]

well

remember that we are on an early build

it'll prob take a while for current player feedback to filter in, especially when it's on an outdated version

i'm sure the playtesters have remarked on it

[cinder moon]

but you still need how many assail to kill that gunner using m2?

[spice veldt]

a good amount

[cinder moon]

meanwhile BB

[spice veldt]

but remember that you can also hit 3 dreg gunners

or with EP, you can hit 6 dreg gunners with a single shard

[rose dagger]

I'm sure theyll nerf the penetration so it only hits 1 by default, two with talent

[harsh urchin]

i'm very disappointed with how they gated kf behind bb

[rose dagger]

And I guess 4 with EP

[harsh urchin]

and didn't change it at all

would've been cool if they either reduced the cd or removed it

[spice veldt]

and assail having good synergy with your talents (True Aim/Mettle/Perfect Timing/Soulstealer)

[formal glade]

I dont understand how BB still has a charge time when assail exists

[cinder moon]

BB's utility is pretty high, though assail being overtuned doesn't mean BB is in a good place by itself

[formal glade]

Idk, BB used to have okay utility, but now voidstrike can serve its purpose far better than BB even can

[spice veldt]

its role as an anti-armour weapon is very meh with psyker's current setup of weapons unless you're straight up running only CC weapons on your ranged and melee

[formal glade]

So its use is kinda gone besides being there for the sake of being there

[cinder moon]

using voidstrike with BB is top tier

[west fox]

just slash stuff to BB

[formal glade]

Anything with a voidstrike staff is top tier

[cinder moon]

try it with 6 warp charges and all the soulblaze perks

[rose dagger]

Scriers with staff is playing with 🔥

[west fox]

this isnt with a staff

[rose dagger]

Ah

[cinder moon]

i don't think scriers can approach the utility of 6wc voidstrike

[west fox]

I use combat knife and revolver

[rose dagger]

You're playing a weird zealot

[formal glade]

A very weird zealot indeed

[formal glade]

[west fox]

build revolves around crits and weakspot hits

[spice veldt]

uh oh bleed knife

[west fox]

pretty much, lmao

does higher dps than zealot while ult is up though

[formal glade]

I respect it, it does sound like some silly fun

[dense bramble]

I never use anything but force weapons with deflect. I find being able to tank ranged is worth a slight reduction in killing power

[formal glade]

I would never try it in auric t5 though, that sounds terrifying

[acoustic osprey]

i found i rarely used deflect so i took it off

[rose dagger]

Increased weakpt dmg + bleed on non weakpt hit

[formal glade]

Deflect had more utility when you couldnt just wipe an entire screen with your psyker by yourself

[acoustic osprey]

can just slash chest, stab head

[dense bramble]

That is very true.

[rose dagger]

Also had more utility before shield

[west fox]

Here's the thing, Boppity. When you jump into a crowd of 30+ poxwalkers and you go goblin mode, you're not going to land every single head shot with the knife are you?

[rose dagger]

The now most popular psyker ult

[west fox]

you get a lot of body hits

[cinder moon]

aiming at head height generally works fine

[formal glade]

I've been running dueling sword exclusively and there has never been a single point where I went "Man i really wish I had deflect right now" lmaoo

[dense bramble]

I dont like the shield. I still prefer the vent to keep up dps in bad spots.

[cinder moon]

might change your tune when you're up against 12 gunners while all of your teammates are downed

[real granite]

I offer you..

[acoustic osprey]

wow, i haven't seen that screen in forever. i forgot

[formal glade]

Not at all, I just throw some assails and they're all gone

[real granite]

Apparently

I never make a psycher

[cinder moon]

🥱

[real granite]

so here I am

[west fox]

Think Assail will get nerfed or nah?

[nocturne stream]

Probably ye

[formal glade]

Oh most certainly

[spice veldt]

mhm

[dense bramble]

The crack rocks of doom are so fun though

[nocturne stream]

with all this crying it\s bound to

but idk took like 6 months for power sword to get nerfed once

[spice veldt]

we'll see

we're on an early build anyways

future updates are being delayed by xbox certs

[dense bramble]

I dont use it anymore even once I got the energizer blessing

[spice veldt]

so hopefully playtester feedback was quick enough for assail changes to be in the next patch

[dense bramble]

The axes are just better

[nocturne stream]

well yeah it was never a fun weapon, just broken af

[formal glade]

Thats true, but assails are pretty much power swords we can throw. So maybe it will get nerfed faster

[cinder moon]

it's not even about the crack rocks themselves being good, it's that they're such a horribly efficient crutch that people with no mechanical knowledge of the game think they're capable in difficulties that are way over their head

[rose dagger]

Bromentum axes got the nerf too

[dense bramble]

It was fun for me bro. Cleaving 20 dudes is cool.

[rose dagger]

It's chainswords turn at being OP

[nocturne stream]

Yeah but that's the broken part. Actually using the weapon (like now) is boring as shit

[cinder moon]

i used assail for like 3 matches and put it down, it's not fun

[nocturne stream]

better than using brain burst tbh

[dense bramble]

I cant stand BB anymore after using assail. Smite is kinda cringe

[cinder moon]

i still like BB because it's superior for dealing with dogs/snipers

also soulblaze and warpcharges

[nocturne stream]

You get warp charges with left keystone anyways

[cinder moon]

you haven't lived til you accidentally BB a crusher with that one skill node

[rose dagger]

BB is the only non cringe option sadly

[spice veldt]

pre-patch days of one-shotting crushers with kinetic flayer

[rose dagger]

it actually requires a lil skill to snipe with it in the chaos of auric

[spice veldt]

no

[dense bramble]

Man old bb where you could vent without losing charges was great. Now its just sad and if you go for empowered psionics you lose the other better trees

[spice veldt]

BB is one of the better non-skill weapons for sniping enemies if your space is being encroached

[nocturne stream]

lmao just look at the enemy

and hold the button

[cinder moon]

railings are the biggest hurdle for BB

or trash in the way

[strong gulch]

perpetually broke

[cinder moon]

love selecting a poxwalker instead of the sniper

[rose dagger]

From far away it's like a pin point and there's usually non HVTs nearby to mess one up

[frank moat]

I just can’t go back to BB

[rose dagger]

See it all the time

[spice veldt]

prob short character then

[frank moat]

Maybe if I could have my old Kinetic Barrage

But compulsory Quicken is ruining Warp Charges for me

[spice veldt]

I had my character set to the tallest height specifically for BB and targeting specials in hordes

[rose dagger]

Not saying BB requires insane skill, but the other two options require no skill at all

[spice veldt]

i'd put BB in the same tier of skill

just that assail gets a more effective output for the skill that you put in

if you're using the RMB with assail, then it's basically the same as BB for snipers

[rose dagger]

Nobody uses the rmb with that tho

[spice veldt]

you use it occasionally because of how the lock-on for assail works and because of the random throws with LMB

https://streamable.com/ydfsds

the shards need to be near an enemy for them to lock on in the first place

[dense bramble]

Throw then lock. People always lock then throw

[spice veldt]

and RMB guarantees a lock-on on an aimed-at enemy at the moment of release (up to 50m and 3 seconds)

[indigo thunder]

Which god do I need to pray to get surge IV for the voidstrike

[dense bramble]

You ever notice those ones dont seem to kill as many

[dense bramble]

I got one in 500hrs

just one

[spice veldt]

mhm, because they do the same damage as the LMB while being significantly slower to throw

[indigo thunder]

300h more to go

Sounds cool

[dense bramble]

Nah like they dont bounce around as much

[spice veldt]

they bounce the same amount

the only difference between the LMB and RMB for the shard itself is the initial lock-on and the shard lifetime (3 seconds instead of 2.5)

[frank moat]

I’m sure if you aimed at 3 snipers all side by side it’d dome them

[dense bramble]

It feels like a single lc will hit more targets than an aimed shots

[spice veldt]

probably because you're spamming the LMBs

whereas the assail RMB is just garbage

[feral verge]

@spice veldt

i like blaze trauma

[spice veldt]

op

you should try blazing spirit trauma + rampage melee memes

cuz rampage gives ~2x damage instead of 1.36x damage for some reason

[feral verge]

maybe

i found that i didnt use my ult (shield) at all

not because i didnt need it

but becasue i didnt want to lose warp charges

somewhat lame that ulting automatically consumes them

[nocturne stream]

Ye should've been a toggle

or not a thing at all

[fresh reef]

finally got around to rolling a good void
this thing is really stupid

[feral verge]

yeah mine is totally busted

[nocturne stream]

personally prefer warp flurry and the peril reduction on weakspot. turns it into a machine gun with infnite ammo

[rigid blade]

Should I get?

[fresh reef]

here's what I got

[feral verge]

nice

i have surge blessing

but dont have warp nexus 4

but i really like warp flurry + transfer

so i never bothered making a surge nexus

[feral verge]

yes

remove terrifying barrage for warp flurry

infested for crit chance/unyielding

[fresh reef]

remove terrifying barrage in general tbh

[feral verge]

please

[fresh reef]

like from the blessing pool

[nocturne stream]

Personally not a fan of surge because if you crit something with this shit right now it most likely dies anyway except bosses.

[rigid blade]

Do the staves not share the same blessing pool?

[cinder moon]

i actually had this realization the other day when i tried throwing cryonic rods from the raised floor to the walkway hubs. i can do it with all my other characters, but my psyker can't because she's min height

[hollow cargo]

would this be cool for horde clear

obv i can just farm for better blessing

[cinder moon]

they do not because they are separate staves

[white egret]

Has there been any word from Fatshark about nerfing Assail?

[cinder moon]

voidstrike staff is to trauma staff as recon lasgun is to infantry lasgun

[fresh reef]

we got a megathread on the subreddit, so I think they at least notice that people are complaining

[rigid blade]

I honestly think Smite with Empowered is more powerful.

[white egret]

I am aware of that yeah. Hopefully it’s changed soon

[nocturne stream]

smite is bugged with that keystone

[fresh reef]

that's bugged and not intended though

[nocturne stream]

which is why it's so powerful

[fresh reef]

so def getting patched

[white egret]

I really want to play psyker again but not sure I want to play it when those are the two best builds

One supidly OP and the other bugged and stupidly OP

[cinder moon]

it's not really powerful if your teammates don't handle whatever you're CCing lol

[frank moat]

Honestly Smite feels way better when you’re using it for short bursts

[rigid blade]

Can always go Voidstrike

[frank moat]

You rarely get the knockdowns when you’re just saving your Smite for any time you’ve got an EP charge

[cinder moon]

are you using M2?

[white egret]

i was also gonna say Smite at least doesn’t kill everything in front of you, just stuns them for a bit for allies to deal with

[fresh reef]

TIL surgevoid can stagger a plogryn

[nocturne stream]

voidstrike is more busted than assail tho

[cinder moon]

yeah i have footage of a stunlocked plogryn i was HSing with one of those lol

[frank moat]

Also nobody mentioning the warp charge bubble shields

[white egret]

Assail is also ultra easy to use

[cinder moon]

at first i was like ??? then i was like

[rose dagger]

That it is. But assail is very overbearing on low difficulty to my understanding

[cinder moon]

not really that strong and frankly can be more annoying than helpful

[nocturne stream]

yeah well the performance to skill ratio doesn't really align well for void either

[cinder moon]

at least you have to aim void

and consider travel time

[rose dagger]

Really wish quicken wasn't baked into warp charge keystone

[nocturne stream]

You look in the general direction and release. They're awfully similar in that regard

[cinder moon]

if you don't care about crits, sure

[white egret]

As someone who’s been leveling my other classes since my psyker is max level, it sure is

[cinder moon]

if you're not going for headshots with voidstrike, what are you even doing

[fringe garden]

Void could probably use a bit of a peril cost change

[nocturne stream]

Unless you made a midget you will hit heads for free

[cinder moon]

i did make a min height psyker though lmao

i can't do cryonic rod tosses with her

[fresh reef]

anything below Heresy can be accomplished exclusively with a sentient group of assail shards

[nocturne stream]

it also doesn't need crits since it shits out almost 2k dmg per hit anyway

[fresh reef]

height change mod

[cinder moon]

i like her being short

[fringe garden]

I mean, Voidstrike isn't any worse than a mid tier vet with a decent gun

[rose dagger]

I made all operative above average height. My ogryn max height

[fresh reef]

save for the fact it has infinite ammo and isn't subject to suppression

[cinder moon]

my vet, zealot, and ogryn are all max height

figured the psyker should be one of those "good things come in small packages" type deals

[fringe garden]

And it can kill you

[cinder moon]

like such as?

[fresh reef]

skill issue

[cinder moon]

oh the staff lol

[fringe garden]

Just saying, that's a tangible tradeoff

[frank moat]

Don’t see how a bullet proof shield can be annoying, but at any rate all of the toughness bonuses stack with each shield

[jolly cedar]

This sword worth buying?

[nocturne stream]

it's a plasma gun with infinite ammo and effectively no heat management

[cinder moon]

if you're trying to pixel peek and there happens to be a shield in the way, looking through it at an oblique angle will obscure anything beyond it

really annoying when i'm trying to do volleyfire or something

[feral verge]

not at all

[jolly cedar]

What's wrong with it?

[shy fiber]

Is Precognition a good choice now? I'd like to try it over slaughterer on deimos force sword

[feral verge]

low first strike damage

[rose dagger]

Space wizard should be glass cannon tho, problem is she has way better toughness talents than vet

[cinder moon]

buy it for deflector

[feral verge]

deflector tiers dont really matter

they will all block bullets

[cinder moon]

if he has the opportunity to get deflector IV now, it shouldn't be forgone

[nocturne stream]

less peril/stamina per block is worth it

[spice oar]

Slaughterer tiers don't really matter they will all kill

[feral verge]

if he is rich, go ahead

but if not, i wouldnt

i would settle for deflector 3 roll

[cinder moon]

you sound like you don't have deflector iv and are jealous

[rose dagger]

Who even uses deflector anymore

[feral verge]

@cinder moon

every blessing

[cinder moon]

it was a joke son

it went right past ya

[feral verge]

i grew out of it a long time ago

i knew it was a joke son

[cinder moon]

sure, jan

[elder rain]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[feral verge]

mkiv

you want uncanny 4 blessing

v important

[fresh reef]

forgot I had this thing. This'll still be good in HiShock yeah?

[feral verge]

i just tried blazing spirit trauma

and it did really well

i figure that wo uld be just as good or better

[dense bramble]

whats blazing spirit?

[feral verge]

sets shit on fire on critical h it

[cinder moon]

blazing trauma used to be a thing, it probably still is

[fresh reef]

I have a blazing trauma too, but I figure that I can just get soulblaze procs off of combustion/wildfire, and with rending I can make that actually do damage to carapace

[cinder moon]

that sounds legit

wonder if it plays out as intended

[feral verge]

blazing trauma? it does well

[cinder moon]

no, what staff is talking about

incidental blazing trauma

[feral verge]

i havent used it but

[spice veldt]

even when holding LMB down?

[feral verge]

idk i feel i could guarantee it would be just as good, if not better

[cinder moon]

i think so, but i wasn't trying to fuck around for more than 2 throws before the ads caught up

[spice veldt]

you can get some extra time by sliding, charging your throw during the slide, and then just dodging around as you charge it up

[strong gulch]

Doesn't movement speed also impact how high you can throw stuff?

I swear I can throw a rod higher with knife or dueling sword.

[cinder moon]

hmmm

i'm so low on plasteel that buying it just for speedload almost seems like a good idea

[feral verge]

Las pistol reloads so fast though

And has huge magazine

[cinder moon]

what if it reloaded faster though

😂

[jolly mural]

Hey I was hoping if someone can help my teammate and I accomplish the 90% brain burst to boss on heresy or higher

[odd siren]

best illisi perks?

[unique mist]

Not me buying every 370+ voidstrike staff brunt sells then upgrading them only for them to give me the worst blessings known to varletkind

[cinder moon]

i'm superstitious and think hadron is more likely to roll blessings you already have

[unique mist]

Bad perks too

[unique mist]

hadron is about to be turned into scrap metal

[cinder moon]

i swear when i earn a blessing, she rolls it more often

[odd siren]

same

[unique mist]

I'm just trying to get surge

[broken pollen]

how the fuck did you roll a tier one warp flurry

[cinder moon]

lemme make you really mad

[odd siren]

best illisi force sword perks?

[broken pollen]

drop it and use deimos

is what i was told

[strong gulch]

You might have better luck in the vox channels. Pick the one with your server location.

[jolly mural]

Thankyou

[odd siren]

I dont need single targe damage though

want ilisi for horder clearing around me

horde

[nocturne stream]

Slaugtherer then other is free i suppose

deflector is nice

[onyx sentinel]

Was wondering how I manage to consistently find damnation games at 11pm

[cloud heron]

Havent played since launch and am not familiar with the new weapons. How is this force sword stat wise?

or is first target the dump stat since this is the cleave one?

[feral verge]

First target always important

Warp resist and mobility are dump stats

That's a decent sword

[spice veldt]

is first target still bugged on the illisi

[feral verge]

You want slaughterer, unstable power, uncanny strike or deflector on all force swords, pretty much

[spice veldt]

if it's still bugged, then you don't need to give a crap about the first target on the illisi as long as you have high warp res in addition to that

[feral verge]

You want maniac and flak damage perks. Maniac takes priority

[spice veldt]

@feral verge your end is near

[cloud heron]

is crit still the way to go for the purge staff?

[feral verge]

Crit Chance? Imo yeah

especially now

because we have crit based feats

like 1 second of ranged dodge on crit

and toughness regen on crit

and warp damage on crit

the staff crits frequently

put crit chance on that

and it's critting al lthe time

proccing those feats all the time

[steel flame]

best feat

fight me

[spice veldt]

HIYAAAAAAAH

[hearty sedge]

I think the blessings are fine, what should I replace the perk with? +Flak, or bump maniac to 25?

[cyan notch]

[cloud heron]

I do kind of just hate how this new talent tree works. Like I can't take both prescience and venting shriek?

just since I can't get across the talent tree fast enough

[hearty sedge]

At least Pskyer's tree isn't as bad at Vet

[cloud heron]

what's the difference between Smite and the surge staff?

[lyric burrow]

Couldnt have put it better myself

[proud mantle]

insane melk cop

[proud mantle]

not much in practice

[hearty sedge]

Smite does basically zero damage but huge AOE, Surge does much damage but only targets 2 things.

[cinder moon]

surge can hit more than 2 targets, but they need to have residual shock on them

and the damage falloff is pretty severe

[proud mantle]

oh did they change how surge works?

[cinder moon]

yes, surge is for single target damage now

smite is the CC lightning

[spice veldt]

2 targets by default

but the upgrade node to Smite affects Surge

[proud mantle]

that's kinda dumb, either the grenade or staff should have been something different entirely

[zinc phoenix]

Idk why but surge + smite + shriek with the illsi is by far my most successful build

Even tho smite is shit

[hearty sedge]

Yeah. So the first surge hit targets 2 things, 1 for main damage, and 1 for 20% damage. Hits afterwards will target another target for main damage, as well as any other target previously damaged by surge in the last 10s for 20% of main damage.

[zinc phoenix]

And surge without empowered isn’t great

[zinc phoenix]

WHAT

W H A T

[hearty sedge]

Yeah.

[spice veldt]

don't question it

[dense bramble]

Damn daniel

[zinc phoenix]

W H A AAA AAA AA AAA T

[cinder moon]

i have a build like this, only weakness is long range, but surge m1 can sort of do that

[proud mantle]

bruh

[zinc phoenix]

I just hide and hope someone else can deal with it

[cloud heron]

I did read that smite is just called surge in the game files

[zinc phoenix]

M1 on a staff is trash

[cinder moon]

headshots do decent damage

if you can land them

[spice veldt]

yeah it's acceptable damage

[zinc phoenix]

I can nuke a sniper across the map with revolver, but staff m1 is just all over the place

[spice veldt]

mostly a stagger tool but it has its perks

[cinder moon]

otherwise the stumble is acceptable

yeah

[lyric burrow]

i just use them to make bombers drop there bomb quicklyh

[cinder moon]

staff m1 is perfectly accurate to where you were aiming when you clicked

[zinc phoenix]

And if you’re dodging and weaving it’s all over the place

[cinder moon]

it does feel clunky until you get the hang of it

working in the staff special to my kit has been a lot of fun though

proc'd a bb on a poxwalker with it earlier

the sweep is kinda useful sometimes

[zinc phoenix]

Honestly respect to anyone who can make staff special do anything

They should just replace it with the force shove but they wont because they have an animation and by god players will see it

[spice veldt]

fatshark fears the power that psykers would have if the staff special was good

[cinder moon]

i wish the sweep was the first special move

[spice veldt]

i think the bolt could be quite fun

esp if used in conjunction with assail (once nerfed) https://streamable.com/t1ywkz

[cinder moon]

i use m1 a lot

now that i understand it

[zinc phoenix]

I use it like a machine gun into a mob before I start the stabbing

[cinder moon]

m1+special is great in certain scenarios

[zinc phoenix]

It’s the klobb of guns

[cinder moon]

lol i do enjoy spamming m1 like a machinegun

lightning bolt lightning bolt lightning bolt

[zinc phoenix]

Immmmm outta mana

[cinder moon]

that's when you start swinging with the special

[cloud heron]

is the psyker shield directional or does it just block enemy bullets?

or both

[cinder moon]

just blocks enemy fire

[cloud heron]

thanks

[tired hearth]

Which is Keystone is best for Assail? Psionic one?

[harsh urchin]

Both of them can be made to work

Just dont use the third one

[tired hearth]

The third one?

The marked enemy one?

[spice veldt]

yeah, it has a bug that makes marked enemies not glow

so the entire point of the keystone is just disabled for some reason

[zinc phoenix]

I legit have to right click with two fingers when playing surge/smite or my hand will hurt after

[wispy iris]

what are the ideal base stats for void strike?

[hearty sedge]

Damage, blast radius (lowers falloff), charge rate. Quell/warp resist to your choosing

Roughly in order.

[feral verge]

you're looking for this

[unique mist]

Does blast radius increase maximum radius?

or just falloff

[hearty sedge]

Both

[unique mist]

Thx

[wispy iris]

got it

[hearty sedge]

Something like this is okay too, depending on how much you quell

[wispy iris]

woah

[wispy iris]

I use assail lots

so alot

[hearty sedge]

Blast radius is the most important stat because it increases epicenter. This makes multihit easier.

[keen harbor]

just met a tag team of smite psykers

they were really useless

[wispy iris]

ohh right

[hearty sedge]

Smite is basically saying "You can't kill me I'm in the living room" while the other three perform the equivlent of smashing up an old folk's home.

[tough agate]

lfg to help with Malleus Monstronum

[hearty sedge]

Get an ogryn to aggro a deamonhost then shield tank in the corner.

[keen harbor]

except it was hi-int and they kept getting overwhelmed, because they were both smite, and I couldn't kill things fast enough

[tough agate]

ahh

[wispy iris]

lf ogryn friend

[hearty sedge]

Ask around in party chat and see if people will help. Most are pretty chill with it. Play games till you see a deamonhost and then casually ask.

Or just be more of a direct shithead and say 'looking for shieldgryn'

[unique mist]

Envious

[wispy iris]

cna it be done in public lobby?

[hearty sedge]

Private only. Matchmake on the discord.

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042832970211397735

[wispy iris]

ah right

thanks

[unreal tapir]

make sure the host opens the settings and changes it to private as well instead of just searching with 4 people

[hearty sedge]

Crit build makes it sing. 25% chance of just deleting a horde every shot.

[wispy iris]

fair

btw is this good enough or worth rolling more?

[hearty sedge]

Best part is I just rolled it up from a grey.

[lyric burrow]

thats fine

[hearty sedge]

Thats pretty peak mate.

[lyric burrow]

quell speed doesnt need to be crazy high

[wispy iris]

thanks

[hearty sedge]

Yeah, especially if you get the 30% bonus quell speed. It interacts strangely.

[wispy iris]

multiplicative i imagine

my current with sad blast radius

[hearty sedge]

That is in fact quite sad.

:(

All hail Hadron, owner of the largest brick factory on Atoma

[wispy iris]

😭

[strong gulch]

right?

[hearty sedge]

I'm just waitng for the day I can unlock them for diamantine

I have a lot of staves that make me sad like that.

[wispy iris]

am I able to join strike teams from other servers?

or is it overall a ping issue

[hearty sedge]

Tide will boot you off if your ping is too high.

So no SEA

[wispy iris]

im from oce

so..

[junior linden]

using brain burst for the first time since beta to get the dogs challenge done and I feel like an egg boiling on the sidewalk

[hearty sedge]

Just sort of cry then admittedly.

[unique mist]

Oh yeah I run a crit build and already like VS's horde clear

Posted this earlier but VS's horde clear is already good at base
https://imgur.com/a/fSfvW1l
https://imgur.com/a/Bz6S4mS
https://imgur.com/a/6gak57V

[hearty sedge]

Then I have this for monstrosity clearing. Bleed is actually insane now.

[unique mist]

solo horde clearing with voidstrike staff on damnation I think

[hearty sedge]

Plus the knife regens stam so fast you can just perma block most things.

[unique mist]

Monstrosity clearing, really?

[hearty sedge]

Bleed does 200 dps per stack now.

Caps at 16.

[unreal tapir]

?! actually?

[unique mist]

oh

what

[hearty sedge]

Right in the patch notes, yeah.

[unreal tapir]

kind of crazy.

might make a bleed knife for that exact reason, i dont melee anyway. but ill miss pushing hounds and bursters with deimos

[hearty sedge]

Base Bleed damage buffed from 40 to 200.

Then you start wailing on weakspots which further amplifies bleed damage.

[unreal tapir]

im glad it got buffed, bleed was really underwhelming before

[hearty sedge]

Yeah, you can hit a mutie twice with this thing on danmation and it will eventually die. I don't think people realise how OP bleed is now.

[unreal tapir]

dont think ive used any normal sized knives, whats the chain?

[hearty sedge]

push attack > x2-3 left click > push attack

It has absurdly short stam regen time. 0.5s I think

It is a very safe weapon to use honestly.

Also it gives movement options; when you hold power attack you move faster, you can cancel it into a slide to avoid the slowdown on release.

[unreal tapir]

is it just a bunch of vertical slashes?

[unique mist]

I thought stamina regen was tied to class not weapon

[hearty sedge]

Vert overheads.

It isn't a weapon to hordeclear with, its something to delete one or two targets safely while your peril slips off 100

[unreal tapir]

time to test knives, for the occasional game i load into where my team doesnt nuke monstrosities and im sat here shooting it with a staff for 40 seconds

[tired hearth]

I don't understand the 100% reduction of Psionic keystone. Wouldn't it be that you can just spam assail without peril generating?

[unreal tapir]

well you need charges for it to work

so you need to kill elites

[hearty sedge]

Yes, it is part of the assail wombo combo

[unique mist]

its just for that shard

[tired hearth]

"For that shard"?

[hearty sedge]

1 charge, 1 shot

[unique mist]

I.e. the next time you throw an assail shard it won't cost an assail shard charge, won't generate peril and will do more damage

[hearty sedge]

||It is also bugged so the alt-fire of smite costs zero peril while you have a empowered charge. Abuse infinite lightning while you can.||

[tired hearth]

Oh, I see. You need that elite kill

I thought it's passive. Must be unbalanced as hell

Throwing assail infinitely

[unique mist]

It isn't

[hearty sedge]

It isn't quite infiite, but it does extend the amount of knives you can throw by about 50-60%

[unique mist]

You throw shards so quickly that you spend the psionic charges very quickly and dont get them back as much when using assail

because assail is not good against elites

any armor

some specials its OK against, especially with weakspots

[hearty sedge]

Actually, every hit of assail can generate a charge. Its bugged right now, so effectively every knife has a ~30% chance of giving back an assail charge.

[unique mist]

What

[hearty sedge]

Yup. Assail wombo combo can even hard carry danmnation.

If you aren't braindead while using it.

[unique mist]

I use it with warp charges

much more consistent damage bonus imo

[hearty sedge]

Oh no, empowered is the way to go. Empowered assail already does 50% more damage, and it costs zero peril and gives free charges.

[wispy iris]

pretty hard to mess up..

[unique mist]

meh

[ashen schooner]

mettle doesn't give you more toughness on crit once you hit 3 stacks, bummer

[hearty sedge]

My record was something like 25 assail charges in a row on High int shock.

[lyric burrow]

assail with EP is very good it just loops itself

[unique mist]

The stacks should only be movement speed

[lyric burrow]

you can hit like 700k damage with it

[ashen schooner]

testing in meat grinder stopped getting more toughness once I hit 3 stacks

[hearty sedge]

Also assail can crit; it has a 3x crit multiplier I belive.

[unique mist]

Yeah I run a build that takes the crit aura and 5% crit chance node

[ashen schooner]

I'll give it another check to be sure

[hearty sedge]

Assail is broken and I've been trying to wean myself off of it so I don't get bitchy when it gets nerfed.

[unique mist]

I run this

and I don't assail spam

[long wharf]

I have been converted to the Cult of the Dueling Sword

[long wharf]

you're missing True Aim on the right at the bottom

[unique mist]

meh

actually

if i run a Surge voidstrike staff build I should get it

what do I sacrifice tho

[long wharf]

I've switched to assail+shield+EP+dsmk4+revolver with hand-cannon

at least until Fatshark fixes that blessing bug

[unique mist]

which bug

[long wharf]

hand cannon on the revolver is applying to all ranged attacks

not just revolver attacks

so with Assail, it's getting 80% rending on crits

[burnt granite]

Which dueling sword is the goat?

[long wharf]

mk4

IV

[spice veldt]

here are some numbers to see it to believe it

the heavies deal noticeably more damage than the other duelling swords

[burnt granite]

yeah its the most pointy of the bunch too

[spice veldt]

works fine for me https://streamable.com/4otvss

unless there's some weird interaction like with zealot's cdr on backstab kill talent and the damage on backstab talent

[dense bramble]

What do you think of precognition on a force sword

[unreal tapir]

the blessing system in this game is giving me cancer how much plasteel do i have to spend just to test a t3 or t4 bleed knife

[dense bramble]

Its seriously annoying

[shy fiber]

Wait you can't earn blessings if you fully upgrade the weapon??? 😭

[strong gulch]

You can. What are you seeing?

Upgrading does not grantee high tier blessings. If you can surrender a weapon, then you already have that blessing.

IDK if you can surrender equipped weapons.

[shy fiber]

Oh I'm so stupid

I had the weapon equipped

ofc I can't dismantle a weapon I have equipped

[strong gulch]

I've done that.

[shy fiber]

behold

[frank heart]

purgatus staff still counts as soulfire for talent procs?

[shy fiber]

yes

[bleak tulip]

same tbh, its a little silly how good IV is

even just l spam is better its sad

[bold maple]

I remember when people was simping for V dueling sword instead of IV

and people shit on me for saying IV is the best out of them all lmao

[nimble adder]

I think I’m one of the odd psykers that actually makes use of a gun

Instead of just relying on assail

[bleak tulip]

theres more than you think but I still believe youre all wrong c:

[nimble adder]

Wait am I one of the odd psykers if I use a gun

[unique mist]

No, gunker is viable and fun

but for me, I prefer staffs

They do stuff guns cant do and they use no ammo and they interact with most of psyker's kit

[shy fiber]

Wait I thought it was mostly a competition between mk 2 and 5 for dueling swords

is 4 good :V

[unique mist]

no ammo is big for teamplay imo

[bleak tulip]

nah im just pulling your leg, you do you

[nimble adder]

I’m running assail and using a gun

[unique mist]

@shy fiber

[shy fiber]

blessings and perks?

[burnt island]

I'm a vet main, and so I'm trying not to rely on a gun. What's a good staff that goes well with assail?

[unique mist]

Uncanny strike and your pick for 2nd blessing

Arc discovered rampage is good because it does 100% damage boost not just its listed 36%

[unique mist]

Voidstrike is best

Trauma staff is apparently also good with rending shockwave (and only with that blessing(

The other 2 staffs cant compete with voidstrike

[shy fiber]

Trauma staff my beloved

It also deals with crowds so unbelievably well

[burnt island]

I never got my psyker to 30 before the update so coming back, I've been running assail with the 2x shield wall.

I'm still using a force sword because it reminds me of my good old chainsword.

[grand viper]

Lightning staff is nice for some quickish cc

Not the cc legend it was before but still good

[native topaz]

I'm assuming smite sometimes not costing peril is a glitch?

[primal aurora]

I'm using this. Is middle capstone that useful? Also which do you think is better 12% chance on kill or guaranteed on elite?

[austere burrow]

guaranteed is way way better in damnation +

because you get so many free needles if there are ragers or gunners in a pack

i think it's probably still better below that

[primal aurora]

I guess that depends on what you use Assail on. Horde/basic ranged enemies clear vs dog swarms or elite kills.

[austere burrow]

basic enemy packs tend to have gunners in them anyway

and realistically you don't really pick

you just use it against all of those lol

[primal aurora]

Any suggestions or thoughts on perk picks in general?

[magic vessel]

anyone been playing Gaze Gun psyker? been messing with it and it's been kinda fun

[austere burrow]

tree seems fine

[magic vessel]

debating picking this guy up, seems actually kind of nuts, Raw gun from Melk, could still swap 2 things

[austere burrow]

any combination of assail + dome is basically like

all you care about

rest is preference

i usually go for the right aura

because i don't like taking mind in motion

[unique mist]

whats the down low on dome vs stun/double barrier?

[austere burrow]

they're both good

[crude cape]

thoughts? wanna try a rampage-less one

still have 2 rerolls too

[austere burrow]

i feel like dome bails you out better personally

but having the instant special stun is useful too

[primal aurora]

I would say Dome is more useful in random teams, because it is easier to use and doesn't require teamplay that much.

[austere burrow]

yeah that too

it's pretty obvious for your team what to do when you drop dome

[unique mist]

Split up and leave

[austere burrow]

hard to drop a completely useless dome

[primal aurora]

Speaking of gunpsykers, I was told this is bad because of low stopping power. Could someone explain why?

[hearty sedge]

Agile is pretty nuts if you can hit those weakpoints. The sword has 5 dodges, and you get 5 more every hit.

[austere burrow]

i mean leaving is fine if the situation calls for it

[unique mist]

I was making a joke lol

[sonic coral]

bout to have a fuckin coronary

I honestly can't believe how bad the players are right now

[hearty sedge]

Stopping power affects basically every stat of the laspisol. You can inspect it, but the pistol already has near-perfect hipfire accuracy, so stability is not as important as stagger/supression/fear

It is still a VERY good roll.

[sonic coral]

I'm about to leave and come back in six months exclusively to get through whatever this bullshit period of absolutely terrible pub matches is

[austere burrow]

no jokes allowed

[hearty sedge]

Literally just play on heresy. Danmation will be a shitshow for about another two weeks.

[primal aurora]

Don't play pub, easy solution.

[austere burrow]

yeah tell me about it

i felt like my runs were fine during the week

but yesterday/today i ran into the dumbest people of all time

[sonic coral]

is it just new people doing the hardest difficulty because they don't know any better

[hearty sedge]

Yup.

[austere burrow]

like just refusing to move forwards

[hearty sedge]

You have to deal with the weekend pubs.

So on weekends just suffer and play heresy instead.

[austere burrow]

idc if you're not used to the game yet, but at least stick with the pack

i should see what weekend aurics are like

[unique mist]

The good thing is

[sonic coral]

I'm not one to throw a controller, not just because I don't have one, but holy shit this is the worst I've EVER seen it

[austere burrow]

they're pretty competent during the week

[hearty sedge]

[austere burrow]

i see

[unique mist]

If you're in a damnation team where you don't have a hope in hell of completing

You wipe pretty quick

so don't waste much time

[austere burrow]

like ppl on reddit complain about assail psykers

i wish i had those people on my team

[hearty sedge]

That is a good thing. It means the game has an influx of new players.

[unique mist]

Only brain burst allowed

[sonic coral]

silver linings SHITbook

[unique mist]

Or triple smite

[austere burrow]

the 2 iq brain burst psykers are nowhere near as good

[sonic coral]

I know a lot of people have wanted to have single player matches as an option for private games, and I didn't really give a shit, but now I wish I had a team of bots

[leaden cliff]

found this on a new psyker i made

[shy fiber]

Woah thats hot

[regal musk]

Id have liked the option, just so i didnt have to force randoms to suffer as i learn classes that arent Psyker lol

[unreal tapir]

running bb tree for free occasional bb while im using my staff > using assail or smite

[hearty sedge]

Start a private match and it will force you into a team of bots.

[unique mist]

We love having a useless blitz

[sonic coral]

very fair, and the psykanium doesn't really give you a great idea of like 60% of how effective something will be

[unreal tapir]

dont need a blitz when you have your staff

[unique mist]

your blitz should fill what your staff can't

[sonic coral]

nice

[unique mist]

and vice versa

[unreal tapir]

my staff fills all

[hearty sedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1162940017321193532/image.png?ex=653dc34a&is=652b4e4a&hm=22ddd33cab0cfff99b21c8c920a85acc983ab537067910de8519329f518fe00b&
This is my blitz

[unique mist]

Good luck in a close horde

[unreal tapir]

he knows about it

[austere burrow]

i mean brain burst is fine

i'm not complaining because they're using it

it's more like

if they're bad they can contribute more by using assail