psyker-class

[crisp yacht]

yeah its pretty good

[frank moat]

Even pre patch-13 I think I moved on from Sedition by like level 5?

[steel flame]

Heresy maybe

[narrow crane]

get rid of stamina and precognition

[olive ember]

eh I just know theres a bunch of wild takes rn

[narrow crane]

other than that yeah its great

[shut breach]

It's almost like if you screw the NPX you screw the game's community long-term

[primal aurora]

Malice is perfectly normal to have fun casually.

[crisp yacht]

change staminer to flak or crit chance

[thin finch]

I was playing on heresy as soon as it was available.
Hopped on damnation a bit later and now I go below only to help friendz

[plucky flax]

I'm still playing sedition.

[thin finch]

The question was about balance tho

[primal plume]

lmao

[olive ember]

malice gaming is where its at

[primal plume]

i never use melee so i have zero perks

[olive ember]

except I need all the plasteel

smh

[plucky flax]

No that's too hard.

[shut breach]

This is why I meme on people who think community balancing is a good idea

[olive ember]

very true

[shut breach]

The "Community" forgets they were ever new

It's game design 101, don't fuck over the 90% of casuals that don't even read

[olive ember]

lmao

[thin finch]

"Only balance game around the 1%" -Grindset dev

[steel flame]

I miss the old psyker chat when we just clowned on josho

[olive ember]

its gonna take a while but the takes are gonna be wild for a bit

[shut breach]

For each person in here, even the shit-takers, there's 20 imbeciles who I can only assume installed this game out of dumb luck after randomly slapping buttons

[strong gulch]

Yeah, that's pretty good. If you find it difficult or annoying to keep Precognition up, you can change it shred.

Change stamina perk to flack/ crit chance/ carapace. Which ever one you have to most issue with.

[thin finch]

She can't ,she has no perk

[primal aurora]

So, Assail is spoiling experience while you level up, but it is relatively balanced on lvl 30 and herecy+ ?

[shut breach]

Nah it's a bit too low skill in high return out on heresy+ too IMO

[thin finch]

It's still strong imo but you have way more ennemy so it feels less oppressive for other player

[shut breach]

It's just

what he said

[strong gulch]

All of the dueling swords have been buffed. MK 4 is the one that was buffed to the moon tho.

[shut breach]

There's enough horde that some of it can show up to get slapped

shooters without horde get evaporated still

[primal aurora]

Let's change Assail controls to mic

[thin finch]

Meanwhile on malice the 2 guys in a corner spam the meth rocks and by the time you look around everyone's dead

[shut breach]

Meth rocks, nice

I'm stealing that

[olive ember]

its still overtuned, but the people are playing on malice and using assail and going "omg its so op" its like... "no shit its malice"

[fringe garden]

Assail should just be horde clear. They need to nerf it's ability to deal damage to anything remotely armored to virtually nothing.

[thin finch]

I stole it too

[fringe garden]

And a bit less regen

[shut breach]

Yeah good idea in theory

One problem

[strong gulch]

what?? My forehead is too thick.

[narrow crane]

no

[shut breach]

Even fucking scab horde is flak armored

And dreg horde's heads too

[fringe garden]

Oh well

[shut breach]

Only the zambies aren't

[steel flame]

Now I can't even share a legit build without some clown dissing it because it uses assail and I'm fucking tired of it. Go back to vet chat

[olive ember]

and thats how you kill the skill lmao

[fringe garden]

It's better as a dead skill than what it is right now

[thin finch]

Yes, the main nerf should be the flak /carapce armor multiplier.
It's in the description

[olive ember]

Don't worry I'll look at your build

[fringe garden]

Like, regardless of any debate we have... everyone here knows it is going to get nerfed pretty hard, right?

[olive ember]

and shit on you for not bringing x feat that I think its best

[shut breach]

I mean

[olive ember]

and my opinion is always right

[shut breach]

they let famished flames BW stay around forever

[steel flame]

This. This is the shit I miss

[thin finch]

Then I will help it with my MK IV

[strong gulch]

Assail is only for spamming in the elevator.

[narrow crane]

I'm officially retired from talking about assail

[shut breach]

And ruined firebombs for months to slap fix BW the one time it wasn't completely OP

IDK

[strong gulch]

Gotta fill the room with ribbons.

[shut breach]

Seems the spellcaster has freebies

[thin finch]

Already so old 😦

[shut breach]

Assail Defender 🤮

[primal aurora]

I don't think nerfing Assail damage is a right way to balance things. It would make it unfun. Maybe devs would nerf shards regen rate.

[shut breach]

Just play smite like a man

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/thebachelorette-abc-ribbon-realitytv-talentcompetition-gif-3382707

[left patio]

I'd like if smite had a better damage with single target

[narrow crane]

I'm gonna stop bringing assail and do what the people want: stop and smite every enemy in Damnation+ for ten minutes straight until a zealot sprints over and bonks it

[slow heron]

query siblings... does the fire from the purgatus staff count as soulfire?

[strong gulch]

Jokes aside, I mostly forget that I have assail when I take it.

[fringe garden]

Or you could just use your staff and melee

[narrow crane]

You want surge

[steel flame]

Yep

[fringe garden]

and switch to the grenade ability situationally

[slow heron]

neat! thanks :>

[fringe garden]

Like the obvious intent is

[left patio]

No i want smite. Thats why i chose it

[olive ember]

I mean here's whats gonna happen next patch: Voidstrike nerfed to ground, assail nerfed to ground, smite bug fixed, dsword 4 heavy nerfed "Omg why all teh nerfs psyker is ruined and unplayable and weak as shit"

[narrow crane]

you want smite to be something that isn't smite

good luck

[left patio]

How?

[olive ember]

I mean smite lmb should be doing more damage

it also shouldn't be infinite cast but funny bugs

[silk vigil]

Tbh I think exploding heretics’ heads with sheer willpower is the most satisfying option. Even if it’s situational.

[narrow crane]

Smite is crowd control, and it's great at it. That's all it should be!

[thin finch]

Especially against carapace ennemy is not bad imo.
Regular damage should not be afaik ,by the description ,it's a trash clearer

[idle bay]

Then nerf squads will start bitching 24/7 about Ogryns beeing too powerful, then after Ogryn nerf - they will bitch about zealots.

[olive ember]

until vets are once again king of the hill

lmao

[narrow crane]

Brogryns are a little overtuned tho

[left patio]

Except assail just does everything smite does but better

[olive ember]

mfw people complain about psykers deleting elite packs and its just like "hello? Have you not seen vet for the past half year?"

[idle bay]

They it will be vets turn to get nerfed 🙂

[fringe garden]

Anyone that doesn't think assail is an obvious outlier and deserves the conversation around it is coping very... very hard.

[idle bay]

They are fine - is like Ogryns should be 🙂

[narrow crane]

waht the fuck are you talking about

[narrow crane]

im not complaining

[strong gulch]

Assail isn't as good at tanking frame rate.

[idle bay]

I play on my Orgyn to chill and relax 🙂

[thin finch]

True smite chad cook poxwalker and computer

[left patio]

I do wish i didnt feel as though assail just does everything better

[narrow crane]

Like your justification for wanting Smite to be better at single target damage is that assail is busted?? Assail needs to be nerfed, yes, smite doesn't need single target damage in return

[left patio]

In your opinion. I dont think assail should be nerfed. Other things should be buffed.

[primal aurora]

I don't think anyone think that assail is on same level as other blitz abilities, but on other hand players don't want to lose the cool weapon, so any kinds of nerfs should try to keep the fun factor.

[narrow crane]

and once again im retired

cant do it anymore

[idle bay]

Siblimgs, using True Level mod - which is highest psyker level you have seen?

[narrow crane]

same 3 talking points over and over and over

[steel flame]

Well I'm gonna peace out of psyker chat till the bandwagon goes back to vet chat and I can clown on Josho again. Get your shit together

[olive ember]

no clue cuz I don't put any faith in levels

[narrow crane]

where are my dueling sword heads at

[olive ember]

and I also don't use mods

I'm probably true level 100 or 200 something on psyker but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[strong gulch]

Months ago I saw an 800+.

[idle bay]

By the Emprah i'm only 213 or so

[clear heath]

dunno about psyker, but highest level i've seen was +1400 on zealot

[narrow crane]

that's fucking crazy

[left patio]

Can i turn my mk 7 head hunter into a boss killer?

[clear heath]

i wonder how many hours that dude had

[narrow crane]

bro WHAT

[strong gulch]

IDK how. That person breathes and shits psyker.

[olive ember]

look man, just stop being a filthy assail user, or a filthy smite bug abuser, or a filthy voidstrike user, or a filthy dsword user, just stop playing psyker in general, don't play ogryn either thats op, or zealot, or vet, just stop playing the game in general really everything is op

[idle bay]

That player have shit-bucket next to PC, and never sleeps - and heave steady diet of stimms

[steel flame]

Lol

[primal aurora]

And that guy is actually Ogrin main, zealot is just for fun

[left patio]

i put headhunter and ranged damage for specialists and elites on my mk7 but i wanted to know if i can increase the damage further for what it deals against bosses.

[idle bay]

He plays his lvlv 1400+ zealot casually

[shut breach]

Oh I know

Heres how I'd nerf Assail

Assail no longer ignores hosts

🤔

[frank moat]

What

[narrow crane]

Assail nerf should be if you equip it you die instantly irl

[thin finch]

buuble shield or double wall shield ?

[frank moat]

Daemonhosts?

[shut breach]

Daemonhosts

[primal aurora]

That would raise so many questions about 40K

[thin finch]

it already doesn't

[frank moat]

It already doesn’t ignore them baka

[idle bay]

Double wall to see those mutants getting thier faces smashed 🙂

[thin finch]

See an assail psyker woke one up after I blew it once

[shut breach]

no no

[left patio]

I prefer bubble for ease

[shut breach]

make it actively seek them

Like

[frank moat]

My number 1 reason for hating Assail Babbies is that they just brainlessly hit DH

[shut breach]

Treat them the same as any other enemy

[thin finch]

My Man

[left patio]

Bubble makes it easier for teammates to not be as dumb.

[shut breach]

rn you have to intentionally aim at it

[left patio]

Plus not nearly as situational as wall

[shut breach]

I say fix that and make assail always hit the host

for extra funny

[frank moat]

You have to intentionally aim at any enemy with assail

That’s how it works

[clear heath]

make assail aim for barrels next to players

[thin finch]

now the third will always prioritize sleeping dh

Make assail draw penis on the wall

[primal aurora]

while we are at it lets go full Undertale and make shard to dodge enemies alltogether

[frank moat]

You should ask Fat Shark to let assail hit targets repeatedly

So that the first hit can rouse the DH, second hit can aggro it and the third is for fun

[idle bay]

Nerf or not Assail should be played differently from just spamming it. Just launch ONE and guide through as many heads as you can.

[dim parrot]

so like yondu from gotg?

[idle bay]

Perrty much like him with his arrow yes.

[dim parrot]

I want the whistle noise too :D

[idle bay]

When you need to put pressure - do not spam assail, just switch to weapon or staff.

[paper fern]

Not sure if anyone's played it, but in Gunfire Reborn, there's a weapon where you throw like five shards and have to lead it through enemies with your cursor, and once the ammo drains it returns

[dim parrot]

so u control it with the pov of the shards?

[paper fern]

No, they just follow your cursor like the Half life rocket launcher

[dim parrot]

oooh ok

[idle bay]

dies from nostalgia

[dim parrot]

never played the first part, only second and dlcs ;-;

did I miss out on a lot?

[idle bay]

When it was released it was a miracle of the game.

[thin finch]

I still don't understand how the shard return to your hand

[dim parrot]

it just comes back I guess? like thor's hammer

[thin finch]

I mean gameplay wise, cuz I'm a gunfire enjoyer, but once the shard is shot, it will just fuck around, sometimes comes back and goes again without me shooting it

[dim parrot]

oh u talking how it comes back in game? 🤔

[ornate hamlet]

my zealot class pulled me to the dark side

[thin finch]

ye, what's the controle to tell the dagger to stop killing people

[dim parrot]

lol

similar to telling your dog 2 stop I guess?

[ornate hamlet]

they can spam when fighting hordes

or some elites

[dim parrot]

or u would have the option 2 just pull it back whenever

[idle bay]

It's wasteful 🙂 One is enough

[ornate hamlet]

nah i go crazy lmao

but it cant beat the feelings of soloing a horde with just your melee

[dim parrot]

Imagine, just 1 shard, but its way stronger and u could controll it

[idle bay]

Assume that it will get HARD NERF and will shoot wet noodle or will have some crazy cooldown and 1 charge in a week or two. Adapt in advance 🙂

And while it not nerfed use it to trivialize a Damnation runs 🙂

[ornate hamlet]

if it was one shard on long cooldown, penetrates shields and carapace and one shots unyielding like a vet grenade

[dim parrot]

imma start my binge watching time again when it happens lmao

[ornate hamlet]

but brain burst needs a fucking buff

its weak asf

[idle bay]

Buff and cool collateral effects

[dim parrot]

maybe not even a long cooldown, just whenever u get it back lol

[ornate hamlet]

i keep seeing vets and unga bunga classes one shot things that psyk just cant

[ornate hamlet]

makes sense, plus could have the peril cost increased

[dim parrot]

also cool whistling noise :D

[idle bay]

There is a Mod that adds "Unlimited POWER!" voiceline to Smite.

SO there can be a mod that adds whistling to assail

[quick python]

around 1200

[dim parrot]

thats kinda cool ^^

[dim parrot]

just not 4 me ;-;

[frank moat]

The fact that Brain Rupture alt-fire takes twice as long to charge and costs 50 peril is insane

[idle bay]

XBox sibling?

[frank moat]

Especially when dogs always seem to show up in pairs at the very least

[dim parrot]

yes indeed my fellow brethren

[dusk rose]

whipfire or right clcik with assail

[idle bay]

If have not barely played this year i would probably be 300-350 on my Psyker maybe 400.... But 1400...

I'm still not at 1500 missions mark

[quick python]

never underestimate the power of NEETS

[idle bay]

1319/1500 missions currenty and then next frame for character picture 🙂

[idle bay]

Way of the NEET is not for me. I need to work to earn on Warp Dust and Demonets

i'm an old man with enough free time

[dim parrot]

the dream honestly

just be an old gamer grandpa

[idle bay]

Keep the back and muscles in check since young age - ot it will be very painful when you are old 🙂

[hardy tulip]

Unstable power blessing is good?

[idle bay]

it used to be beyond good. Should still be good

[dusk rose]

my assail isnt hitting at all it feels like

tips?

[idle bay]

Launch one and guide it through the heads calmly. Then it hits like a truck

Also

[hardy tulip]

Thanks.

[slow raven]

what do you need to one shot a mutant with dueling sword iv?

[narrow crane]

mutant 25% damage

close to 80 as possible

[slow raven]

you need buffs on top of that too right?

[narrow crane]

there's too many to list, but I believe if you crit the weakpoint it should one tap them

without too many other buffs

I usually have a full stack of warp charges tho

[slow raven]

yeah the crit will get them and i dont need any buffs

i can also do it with 6 warp charges, maybe less. no crit or other buffs

guess it's not possible to do it unbuffed

[dusk rose]

huh?...

[narrow crane]

yeah it's probably the best mutant killer for Psyker

[dusk rose]

so dont spammy spammy

[idle bay]

Yes. Just be paitient and after launching one - draw the lines through enemy heads

[dusk rose]

so right click more

?

with ads

[narrow crane]

it's impossible to have clear cut breakpoints for this game at the moment, wish I could offer a more granular answer

and by impossible I mean not worth anyone's time lmao

[idle bay]

Right click is only if you have to pop that one specific motherkarker 500 meters away

Or get a guaranteed hit on randomly jiggling pox hound

[narrow crane]

awesome that this shit is already bricked

thanks FS

[dim parrot]

jesus, gimme some of your rng 👀

[idle bay]

RNG like this ?

Or RNG like this?

[magic vessel]

I got a pretty snazzy Illisi today, love this thing

[narrow crane]

yuck

[idle bay]

Having fun with them while they are not nerfed 🙂

[near wyvern]

By the Emperor this build is broken AF

[narrow crane]

yeah tru it doesn't matter much

[steep kelp]

This any good?

[idle bay]

What have you done with those poor heretics ? 🙂

[near wyvern]

creeping flames spammed smite

[narrow crane]

bad rng

[near wyvern]

and then uncanny deimos first half solo plogryn and then just nuke scab boss in the end

uncanny + unstable power special on head just fuking nukes

[idle bay]

New Ultimate Poke ?

[limber heath]

you kinda cursed it by rerolling both perks, warp flurry is low rank although a good blessing and... i don't think terrifying is good? usually its nexus/blazing spirit as the other option

[narrow crane]

Yeah terrifying barrage is the worst blessing you could get, and the dump stat being damage is also just horrid luck

it's bricked

[idle bay]

Now.. where did i put all my half-decentely rolled Deimos Force Swords...

[steep kelp]

rolled it before the changes when surge was just for stunning

[near wyvern]

I'll show you in a minute or two

[limber heath]

yea thats fine you should prob just get a new one tho, at the very least w9th good damage stat

[narrow crane]

Surge is optimized for single target now, and it's good at it, but old surge staffs might not translate well into patch 13

[idle bay]

2nd purchase from Brunt....

will do for now

Bricked

I love this game 🙂

[near wyvern]

@idle bay https://streamable.com/4zlwim

Uncanny T4 + Unstable Power T4

[strong gulch]

Rest in peas.

[narrow crane]

😭

[near wyvern]

People don't realize that altho rending is capped at 1.25x base damage, it stacks multiplicatively. Combining that with +power blessing, like unstable power which is easy to reach, will just make kaboom

[idle bay]

Thankfully "nerf squad" on forums does not know how rending works 🙂

[near wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-gif-21978827

[idle bay]

Not to roll that perfect Deimos sword....

[strong gulch]

SO agonizingly close to a one shot.

[idle bay]

pulls out ritual dagger

[near wyvern]

I could lend you one of mine if one could do that

[near wyvern]

step 2 meters closer and you might get it

[strong gulch]

Oh ho! thanks

[near wyvern]

by the way @idle bay that deimos did not have +flak, which also is a multiplicative multiplier...

so you can nuke the flak boss even harder if you want, I just like to run +maniac +unyielding for those mutants and monstrosities

[idle bay]

Thank you for guiding me into the direction of impressive damage 🙂
Now i need farm mats again... as i hit 0 again 🙂

[upper galleon]

hello fellow witches

[karmic copper]

so does crit still do piss damage multiplier on staves? like voidstrike, should i NOT be stacking crit and enter the void if im NOT doing surge? or is it OK to stack crit even if you arent aiming for surge. Also, am i missing something with scriers gaze? if i have both crit blessings on voidstaff, im fighting peril cap super fast whenever i use it risking an easy blow up mid fight. am i doing something wrong? i feel like im fucking deleting stuff with surge/void and full crit build... but im not sure what to use with all my non crit talents in the tree.

like im using brain rupture with kenetic flayer because the other two dont make sense to me as im just void blasting anyway, i can see the benefit of OG shriek for peril cap fighting(especially if im dual blessings crit so i dont have transfer peril blessing this way). does Warp Siphon make the most sense to use in that case as well? i heard people complaining about the mechanics with Disrupt Destiny getting stuck on random mobs... just not sure what to do ?

[idle bay]

I do have Unstable t4 is collection... so hunt for Uncanny T4 begins. Melk will probably sell it to me tomorrow

[cedar zenith]

What do we want on a trauma staff?

Modifier wise

[upper galleon]

yes

if you aren't going surge or blazing crit is bad

[idle bay]

Now tell me to wich demon you have told to "go kark himself" so you ended up as possum ? 🙂

[karmic copper]

crit is JUST for the shot duping then?

[ornate hamlet]

@upper galleon wyd rn

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/possum-chew-animal-gif-22648277

don't owrry about it

[steel flame]

Or if you wanna use laspistol and be a ninja gun wizard

[upper galleon]

yes. cause the double shot also crits

so void can oneshot crushers without carapace perk with surge

[karmic copper]

@upper galleon so practically speaking, you either go ALL CRIT EVERYTHING...... or you should just do transfer peril and flurry

[upper galleon]

yes

[karmic copper]

what should the OTHER trait be then? along sice 5% crit

[upper galleon]

transfer peril flurry might be able to use uhhh scriers

[upper galleon]

i'd do maniac or flak

i think my current one has maniac locked

[karmic copper]

i have so many great voidstrikes but the only one with Surge is elite damage or unyelding, and one is goign for crit

current Surge one

[upper galleon]

hmm

i'd drop elites for crit chance

unyielding is nice cause headshot surges stagger bosses

and do pretty good damage

[karmic copper]

unyelding is like head and unarmored areas for ogryn mobs, and monstrosities?

[upper galleon]

not as important as maniac or flak but it's alright

[karmic copper]

interesting

[upper galleon]

yes,

[karmic copper]

ive done transfer peril flurry forever and have literally 9 almost perfect staves for it, so i dont want to just make another one 🙂

[upper galleon]

imo that one looks perfectly great for auric+

[near wyvern]

so does crit still do piss damage multiplier on staves?
yes

should i NOT be stacking crit and enter the void if im NOT doing surge?
yes, don't stack crit

or is it OK to stack crit even if you arent aiming for surge
no, don't stack crit

Also, am i missing something with scriers gaze? if i have both crit blessings on voidstaff, im fighting peril cap super fast whenever i use it risking an easy blow up mid fight. am i doing something wrong?
yes, you gotta have transfer peril + warp flurry and battle meditation but then you would have to give up surge which is BiS at the moment

i feel like im fucking deleting stuff with surge/void and full crit build... but im not sure what to use with all my non crit talents in the tree.
that's just cause the interaction with surge blessing + true aim is trhough the roof at the moment, you don't even need any stats just that blessing and that talent

like im using brain rupture with kenetic flayer because the other two dont make sense to me as im just void blasting anyway
That's one way to do it. I take smite for that one poxburster that is too close and I don't trust my team to not blow it up if I go and push it.

does Warp Siphon make the most sense to use in that case as well? i heard people complaining about the mechanics with Disrupt Destiny getting stuck on random mobs... just not sure what to do ?
Yes DD is ass at the moment. It cannot target trash so when a horde comes you loose the stacks. Do you want +30% damage some times or +24% damage all the time? (Warp siphon).

[karmic copper]

ty both of you, im going to piss my pants, so im going to read that in a minute

[upper galleon]

i take assail void cause i'm a filthy meta abuser

[steel flame]

I'd say go blazing spirit void but ironically that got nerfed because of how much more killing power void has, so it just kills everything instead of setting it on fire

[upper galleon]

i just need a mk4 duelling sword

[near wyvern]

just @karmic copper even if you go surge there is no point in stacking crit, if you can bowl through 5 heads you get back to back guaranteed surge procs anyway

so warp flurry + surge is BiS

[upper galleon]

blazing trauma got indirectly nerfed to cause rending got a big buff LOL

[kind knot]

trying to make a zoomy cowboy psyker build, how good is this pistol?

[upper galleon]

I don't go DD or deflector

i go EP for my Assail

[near wyvern]

Assail

[upper galleon]

so I take crit chance on my void surge

[near wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-eeee-gif-24636179

[upper galleon]

plasteel> morals and ethics

[near wyvern]

fair

[steel flame]

Not really. Rending never affected trauma because it bypassed armor.

[upper galleon]

yes and now it gives it a damage boost= 1/4th the rending bonus

[near wyvern]

yeah and now it actually benefits from rending

[upper galleon]

and buffs it way more for your team

[steel flame]

But I wouldn't call that a nerf

[upper galleon]

it is, way, way better

indirect nerf to blazing

[steel flame]

To fire trauma

[near wyvern]

rending is a lot bigger deal now than what people think, it is MULTIPLICATIVE so it is the way to get huge damage

@upper galleon Exhibit A:
https://streamable.com/4zlwim

stacking rending + power = lotta damage cause both stack multiplicatively

[ashen trellis]

what exactly is soulblaze and how do I apply it while using smite build?

[upper galleon]

you kinda can't

[near wyvern]

the only buffs that currently stack multiplicatively are:

• rending
• power
• vs armour type perk

The rest are additive in one bin that get's multplied by everything in that above list

[near wyvern]

creeping flames and perilous combustion is how you apply it

[steel flame]

Just means that something is better than blazing now not that fire trauma got nerfed. Fire void DID get nerfed because the direct damage boosts makes it really struggle to set enemies on fire rather than straight up killing them

[ashen trellis]

but does it automatically apply when I kill?

[upper galleon]

soulblaze is first and foremost horde clear, while smite is crowd control

[idle bay]

Is Obscuros FS still good for nothing bad for everything ?

[near wyvern]

perilous comustion yes, as long as the kil is not by soulblaze alone

[ashen trellis]

does it count as a kill if I've damaged the enemy but someone else has killed it?

[near wyvern]

@ashen trellis
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a58be9c-85c9-41b2-8345-e4ccc2d90b9c/surge-smite?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

nowadays I use deimos with uncanny strike + unstable power tho instead of that duelling sword

[upper galleon]

and talents that give soulblaze bonuses don't sync well with the build you take surge with

[upper galleon]

nope

that is why smite+soulblaze isn't good together (multitude of reasons)

[near wyvern]

you only take surge to kill steal warp siphons and stay high in peril

[ashen trellis]

ok thanks

[upper galleon]

my soulblaze build is just purge+ Brain rupture

since it lines up really nice just going classic purge psyker left side of tree

i can just yolo with peril and fire and just spam more soulblaze vents and keep it spread with wildfire and shit

[near wyvern]

@ashen trellis
The game plan is to use surge to kill dangerous targets here and there and when the horde hits, find a corner, smite, and at 90 peril ult, then keep smiting as long as you can last, once you are done, you quell some and are pretty much ready to repeat if the ult hit well

[ashen trellis]

I've been just playing it to cc enemies don't really have much idea what I'm doing I just got the game yday

[near wyvern]

right

[upper galleon]

yee

[near wyvern]

yeah smite in itself is cc and doesn't do much damage

but the combination of multipliers + creeping flames allows you to hold horde in place and tear them down within 8 seconds

[ashen trellis]

I'll try the surge staff thing though, but I did find it sort of clunky to use

[near wyvern]

oh and don't trust fatshark descriptions, check Psyker Atheneum for real info (in the pinned messages here)

[steel flame]

#shamelessplug

[thin finch]

it's a single target damage now , if you want the old surge you need to go smite

[idle bay]

WAIT! Smite have anti peril explosion built in ? WOW!

[thin finch]

you can still blow yourself with it tho

[karmic copper]

this upsets me after coming back from 6months off. i remember i had slaughterer 1 under the slaughterer 4 and i replaced it.. sadface

should i swap slaughterer to uncanny and just use it with my void surge build? or or just use deflector because im a noob and been away for so long

[idle bay]

@near wyvern so that +1 extra jump node for Smite is absolutely pointless to get?

[karmic copper]

this was back in march when slaughterer was the fucking bomb on everything

[upper galleon]

yes cause it affects surge staff

for some god awful coding reason

[dusk rose]

worth upgrading?

[indigo thunder]

Don't upgrade anything below ~370

Unless you are farming for blessings

Your Purgatus should have had damage and quell speed swapped

[hollow cargo]

i call this psyker: but make him cool B)

[primal plume]

Cant hit center mass if there isnt any

[hollow cargo]

idk where to put my last point when i get it tho

[primal plume]

also all i did was change my staff

why did my torso vanish

[keen pawn]

what's the strongest thing we have against bosses as a psyker?

[hollow cargo]

assail

[keen pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/anybody-else-gabriel-iglesias-gabe-iglesias-mr-iglesias-anyone-else-gif-17674205

[upper galleon]

not assail

void or brain rupture+ some form of rending

[dusk rose]

just need the warp nexus now

[upper galleon]

either from your sword or a trauma staff

[dusk rose]

after that work on the better staff

[upper galleon]

don't take crit chance on purge

25% damage perk better

cause it affects soulblaze dot while the staff is on

[dusk rose]

aha?

[agile magnet]

Is it possible to get a roll with a stat at 100%?

[upper galleon]

also that staff is bad

76% burn is the final breakpoint for max stacks and fastest stack application

[dusk rose]

iv been 30 for less tahn 24h chill

[upper galleon]

no stats cap at 80% and total mod score caps at 380

[upper galleon]

i know

i'm just telling you

cause you are new and don't know

[indigo thunder]

Stats distribution isn't great

Damage should be the dump stat on purgatus

[dusk rose]

using all my gold to aim for 370 + and 76% burn

[upper galleon]

basically, while you do take warp nexus and crits with purge staff apply 1 additional stack, that falls off compared to 25% damage perk when compared to a measly 5% crit chance

[plucky flax]

I'm top 1% psyker and I can vouch for crit chance on purga. It's just as good and valid as a damage perk.

[upper galleon]

nah, you just want 76% burn stat and high cloud radius

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/mepearla-georgette-spelvin-opossum-lady-pearls-of-wisdom-on-becoming-a-witch-gif-27505619

[plucky flax]

[steep kelp]

anyone have a good smite/surge build?

[zinc phoenix]

Basically the usual five top traits, shriek, the cooldown traits, warp charges, smite

Grab a couple fire traits cuz they’re nice with shriek

[plucky flax]

Yeah I have super op smite surge build that can do 900k damage.

[gaunt stone]

I think I know the answer but guys, (crit nexus 4, surge 4, void strike staff) or (crit nexus 4, warpflurry 4, void strike staff)

[zinc phoenix]

Assuming you don’t want to empower bug

Oh and the 20% damage for peril and kinetic deflector are always great pickups

[upper galleon]

1st one, 2nd one can be viable take off nexus for transfer peril

[steep kelp]

Any changes?

[plucky flax]

Take combustion.

[steep kelp]

I want to get Perilous Combustion but im not sure what to drop

[plucky flax]

It's one of the strongest talent.

Idk what you need to drop but you must take it.

[slow raven]

drop warp rider since it's currently bugged and only gives 8% at max peril

[steep kelp]

hmm then keep the health? or what else

is smite/sure build high crit?

[slow raven]

if you have warp nexus/warp flurry surge then yeah

run the two crit ones at the top right

they are both great and youll crit a ton with warp nexus surge

[spice veldt]

warp rider is fine

it gives +10% damage at 0% peril
the description is peepee poopoo

it's the old warp unleashed but with 20% instead of 25%

[lyric burrow]

yeah i still take it with everything

[wide galleon]

what is zealot channel full of crayon eaters

[feral verge]

zealot channel is actually based

you're just new, and dont know it yet

[slow raven]

have you tested it

because it's 8% in all the testing ive done

fwiw the bug was posted on the fatshark forums and they "acknowledged" it whatever that means

[wide galleon]

the fact you used the word “based” tells me you belong there

[feral verge]

stfu u got the green leaf lmaoo lmfaoo l;mao lol

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/9mehuk

[near wyvern]

he probs not, but it's in the Psyker Atheneum which means I have

Nevertheless, I am a man of honor, and this can be easily verified: https://streamable.com/tzoekw

476 / 432 = 1.10

[slow raven]

huh, can you try with a voidstrike left click if you dont mind

thats what i tested it with

[slow raven]

oh sorry i meant the max peril value

maybe im wrong on the 8% at 0% peril since im just bad at math, i can accept that it's 10%

but when i tested at max peril i was getting the 10% value instead of the 20%

[lyric burrow]

does rending shockwave still apply to just your teammates or you too

[spice veldt]

still from 10% to 20% for vstrike

[near wyvern]

voidstrike 0% 1.10, 100% 1.205 so 1.20

because UI rounds up values

[spice veldt]

it's still brittleness so it debuffs the enemy

you just prob got confused by the fact that the lower boundary is 10% and how it's left out by the description

[slow raven]

ok im gonna try it again because i posted about this like 2 weeks ago and someone in this channel verified for me that they were also getting 10% instead of 20%

[gaunt stone]

These perks good?

[near wyvern]

they were probably comparing the value at 0% peril to the value at 100% peril while having the talent on for both cases

the talent gives you base +10% at 0 peril and the an additional 10% linearly scaling with peril

so if you have the talent on you will deal first x * 1.1 damage and then you compare it to x * 1.2 damage and in calculator you calculate x * 1.2 / (x * 1.1) without realizing and that results in 1.2/1.1 = 9%, with how UI roudning goes you might get 8%

where x is the original damage without the talent on that is

[slow raven]

OHH

fuck

yeah, that's gotta be it

[near wyvern]

@slow raven check Psyker Atheneum in the pinned messages here, fatshark descriptions are all over the place, the Atheneum has actually tested behaviours for things

it's currently still a work in progress but I am working on it every week, it used to be quite complete but everything changed so I have to test everything again

[patent igloo]

What're the best perks for the illisi MK V force sword

[near wyvern]

uncanny + slaughterer

[slow raven]

thanks, ill check it out

[patent igloo]

Ty

[near wyvern]

I assumed you ment blessings, if you actually ment perks then you want +maniac and +flak 😄

[slow raven]

tbh im happy to be wrong about this since i always liked playing warp unleashed and im always at high peril, it's like getting a free 20% damage buff

[patent igloo]

I actually wanted to know both, so thanks, now I just need like a million plasteel

[near wyvern]

these 6 here should be default for all psyker builds

change my mind

[dim parrot]

I have left and the middle 1

[near wyvern]

don't sleep on devil's claw tho, if you have something against armour it fucking shreds, for that you want to have mk IV variant with shred and savage sweep and then +maniac +flak as well

[spice veldt]

i only take the left branch because of my severe crack cocaine addiction to toughness

[ornate hamlet]

take a shot for every psyker you see using void staff and dueling sword

[gaunt stone]

I run dueling sword so the right one is not needed

don't need to block if they can't catch you

[near wyvern]

clutch resses are op

https://tenor.com/view/youre-selfish-thats-selfish-shellfish-whelk-underwater-gif-21556046

[spice veldt]

being able to aggro the chaos spawn without having to run from the team is also nice

[summer dragon]

What's wrong with that?

[gaunt stone]

my dueling sword has 20% block efficiency

[ornate hamlet]

its boring and basic lol

[summer dragon]

IT'S EFFICIENT

[patent igloo]

Would you say its better than force sword for quick killing elites? I run smite with enhanced psionics for the infinite lightning and use the force sword to rush and kill a few elites to build up a few charges for the lightning

[summer dragon]

And poke stunning a rager is fun. Amusing even!

[west smelt]

Speaking of duelling swords, how about this?

[near wyvern]

it does kill most of them faster than illisi

[patent igloo]

Dang okay, i'll have to try it out when I get the plasteel, lol

[summer dragon]

That mobility is so high. And Teir IV Precognition is really nice.

That's a good saber

[west smelt]

Sweet, thank you

Playing rn

[thin finch]

it says up to +20% , nothing saying it does not give +10% at 0 %

[west smelt]

Wow it's so much better thna my old one

[rugged fiber]

So I heard someone say that brunt's armory is based on the current stats your weapon have in your inventory.
It seems highly unlikely tho I'm asking here to be sure

[spice veldt]

seems unlikely, though could test by running a new character

probably a psyker so that you have access to assail

and just don't buy any weapon until lvl 30

[lethal folio]

Lies.

[rugged fiber]

I'm bored of assail smh

[spice veldt]

true

[ornate hamlet]

play tank

[summer dragon]

Vent Lightning is a fun combo

[ornate hamlet]

blitz?

[summer dragon]

Smite for Blitz, Vent for your F

Psykenetic Wrath

[zinc phoenix]

It is but it done kills my hand

[slow raven]

try assail with scriers, disrupt destiny, and a gun, it's enough of a change in playstyle to make it fun for me again

[tender terrace]

this works on voidstrike staff? ie weakspot hits from voidstrike feed into this?

[summer dragon]

Oh yeah, I have a class with that. It lets you deal incredible levels of damage for a brief moment in time, and then you have to panic scramble behind a teammate so you don't get obliterated.

Assail and Scriers, I mean

[spice veldt]

ye, and it is as balanced as you'd expect it to be with a certain other blessing

[tender terrace]

i guess im thinking of like 3 tbh lol

[spice veldt]

deterministic crits babeeeeeeee

[tender terrace]

does it crit the whole way down too?

[spice veldt]

yeah, crits are rolled for the entire attack and all targets hit by it

[tender terrace]

lmfao

[slow raven]

yeah thats why i run warp flurry/surge instead of warp nexus/surge

[errant axle]

Which is the electric spam staff the ones you fuckers get

[slow raven]

in a horde you have an effective 50% crit rate anyway

[errant axle]

Is it the final one in the line or is it something else

[slow raven]

and all that crit rate you take is wasted when it doesnt help you at all during true aim procs

[feral verge]

@errant axle

[spice veldt]

surge is either the 2nd or 3rd staff you unlock

[near wyvern]

yes no internal cooldown, you can do back to back crits if you have enough heads to hit

[tender terrace]

seems well thought out

or perhaps intentional

[slow raven]

im worried for voidstrike in the next balance patch

[tender terrace]

they should not nerf anything

[near wyvern]

@tender terrace battle meditation, warp siphon, inner tranquility, warp battery, true aim and then a void staff with warp flurry + surge and you only stop when enemies don't exist anymore

[errant axle]

Alright wholesome thank you

[tender terrace]

to balance from here they should buff up the lagging weapons

[feral verge]

yw

[errant axle]

I play Zealot Ogryn and I am only grinding this shit out because uh idk

[near wyvern]

nah they totally have to tune void and assail down

[errant axle]

Have to see why so many people die with it

[spice veldt]

hmm the purg lmb can guardbreak bulwarks it seems

[slow raven]

it was always so satisfying to use but basically did nothing unless you were only hitting unarmored trash adds

[near wyvern]

you can perma stagger monstrosities with void atm

[spice veldt]

time to use the purg now

[errant axle]

Is the class seriously this squishy

[slow raven]

compared to ogryn and zealot, kinda yeah

you do get some nice stuff like infinite dodges on force swords

or blocking bullets

[tender terrace]

its nearly identical to zealot without the crutch of a heal if you hit 0

[slow raven]

or can block for an eternity with kinetic deflection

but you die very fast once you get hit

[spice veldt]

psyker has some lower base stats but we have some good stats on our dodges and whatnot

[nocturne stream]

Kinetic deflection turns stamina into a meme stat

[kind knot]

what sorta things might help get this penance done?

[nocturne stream]

Unironically play on damnation/auric and keep killing special/elites

[west smelt]

It was so freaking good, what should I change on the perks?

[kind knot]

i cant survive those

[nocturne stream]

Spam brain burst

is other option

[spice veldt]

carapace + unyielding are quite solid options

[golden frigate]

play long enough and it'll complete by itself

[tender terrace]

whats best monstros damage for pskyer?

seems like nothing close to gunlugger ult rn

[west smelt]

Currently playing this gunsyker build, https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a5c5bbf-7cf7-4cd0-8fa1-7afbe625531b/reddit-request?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

What should I go for if I do brain burst stuff?

[left mirage]

which force sword is closer to the mk4 duelling sword, illisi or deimos?

deimos right

[feral verge]

deimos

by far

[left mirage]

ok ty

[lyric burrow]

psyker cant compare to gunlugger really

[tender terrace]

well, no one can

but still feels awful against monst

[lyric burrow]

i think best is scriers gaze with mk 3 vraks or like

[narrow crane]

Voidstrike

[lyric burrow]

mk4 duelling sword with unyielding

void isnt awful as well

esp with the stunlock

[left mirage]

so wait, why is the deimos heavy attack lower then normal attack

this thing bugged?

[spice veldt]

l1 deals 2x damage

[lyric burrow]

light attack one does do more damage than heavy 1

[left mirage]

bruh

[lyric burrow]

i do believe

heavy 2 does a billion damage tho

[narrow crane]

Deimos force attack is really strong for monsters too

[left mirage]

arent the icons just bugged? its a vanguard swing on heavy but in game its a strikedown

like, in-stats

[spice veldt]

the icons are basically a lie

they're not linked to any technical properties of the attack

[left mirage]

oh

[spice veldt]

they're broad descriptors, except they can be straight up wrong

[lyric burrow]

Yeah i wouldnt really pay attention to those

[left mirage]

ok so l1 does do more then h1 against non-carapace

what's up with that

[lyric burrow]

L1 is just strong

[whole oxide]

because the information that isn't shown is how many targets it can hit

[spice veldt]

the deimos specialattack is very meh; you do it if you can't hit heads with the l1/h2

[lyric burrow]

H1 kinda sucks you wanna use h2

L1 > H2 is your go to combo

[reef nacelle]

how bad is auric soloq on this game?

[left mirage]

i see, ty

[spice veldt]

depends on the mission

[lyric burrow]

Depends if you get level 30s

[reef nacelle]

ive queued twice and it is really bad MM

[lyric burrow]

If you get people actually prepared not bad

[spice veldt]

if you're an assail psyker, then basically everything except melee/monstrosity maelstrom is not too terrible

[lyric burrow]

Generally if i can get one other good person its fine

Depending on how hard the modifier is

[reef nacelle]

why is maelstrom bad for assail

[lyric burrow]

Its not

Melee only is cause its all carapace

[spice veldt]

assail doesn't do well against monstrosities

[proud hinge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1030488500086251621/1067957358887710740/meme.mp4

[reef nacelle]

what about voidstrike?

[lyric burrow]

And the monstrosities one yeah

[spice veldt]

and in melee-only, I'm just speaking from personal experience on my own stupidity

[lyric burrow]

Voids good on everything

[spice veldt]

if you don't have a tendency of whiffing your dodges and getting one-shot, then you'll be fine probably

[reef nacelle]

i am voidstrike/assail

[narrow crane]

is the damage really that bad?

[strong gulch]

not going well

[spice veldt]

deimos h2

[unique mist]

can trauma even hit weakspots?

[narrow crane]

this isnt that bad yet

[spice veldt]

deimos special-heavy

[unique mist]

oh, with its primary fire

[lyric burrow]

H2 is just better esp since you arent stuck

[strong gulch]

it got worse

[spice veldt]

and the fact that you are locked down while you're in the special, and the special is notably slower than normals

the special is only remarkable against flak because of the 200% adm it has

in terms of damage

other than that, the special is just there for stagger

or if you can't hit weakspots

[narrow crane]

the perks really arent that bad, if you can get rending shockwave and warp flurry it's a great staff

[unique mist]

yeah i'd keep that and switch blessings

[strong gulch]

Good point. I'm a nexus blaze trauma user myself. Good to have variety tho

[errant axle]

Psyker main here how do I beat sedition low intensity

[frank moat]

Assail rending fuck off crit build is how I escaped the Sedition trap

Now I can play Malice low intensity sometimes

[slender pond]

complete newbie here should i get this for my psyker?

[narrow crane]

Trauma is so good that you can have garbage everything and still be untouchable

[narrow crane]

no

no no no

[frank moat]

Melk’s curios are always garbo

[slender pond]

oki tnx

[narrow crane]

regular shop rolls 21% max health so often

19% isnt worth

[slender pond]

so i should get them from the shop?

[narrow crane]

yep

[slender pond]

oki

[narrow crane]

dont waste the creds on melks shop

only go to him for the occasional unicorn item or blessings

[slender pond]

i have no idea what those are but ty!

[magic vessel]

I forgor you can only adjust 2 things on a weapon so when I roll this final blessing I might get mega boned

[narrow crane]

it's the daily reset shop, with the currency you only get from contracts

Sire Melk

[narrow crane]

it's already so good it doesnt really matter

that's the Illisi for ya

[magic vessel]

Yeah I like it more than the Deimos personally even if they serve different roles

Love me crab walk, simple as

[errant axle]

Bro I was shitposting...

Auric Damnation only

[narrow crane]

do you like dueling swords

[frank moat]

So was I

[errant axle]

Oh

Thank god lol

[reef nacelle]

what curious are bis for psyker

[magic vessel]

Mixed bag for me personally, I know they're super good but the light swing patterns I'm not used to get me out of a pinch.

[reef nacelle]

why do zealots nuke monstrosities?

[magic vessel]

Tons of stacking buffs, talents, blessings and amazing weapons

The eviscerator and thunder hammer and dagger can just fucking melt bosses

[lyric burrow]

thammer can full one shot them

[magic vessel]

Yeah

[tender terrace]

never seen a zealot do that since patch lol

gunlugger ogryn with minigun tho now thats some shit

[left mirage]

stealth + backstab + charged altfire thammer heavy

that boss is toast

[errant axle]

Hammer + Massive amounts of passives

Plus when we activate our shit its a guaranteed crit with the dash

Means we 4 shot bosses

Its why Zealots and Ogryns stagedive bosses instantly

Melee damage beats gun damage in general for these types of games

[feral verge]

@spice veldt join us arco

join purgatus clan

[spice veldt]

no i'm just testing stuff rn

but i will use purg

in 10 years

[feral verge]

excellent

oh

[lyric burrow]

arco not on trauma???

[feral verge]

f u

bad

[lyric burrow]

nvm

[feral verge]

arco sucks hate arco

[spice veldt]

booly

[lyric burrow]

i cant hate arco

[feral verge]

i can

very, very easily

[lyric burrow]

thats fair

[spice veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/897990245658787881.webp?size=80&quality=lossless

[tender terrace]

seems like my shield ult almost never has a cd? kinda broken

[whole oxide]

its known to be bugged

[mild junco]

Siblings, praise the omnissiah

So Hadron don't brick this one

[feral verge]

good luck

here's mine. very similar stat spread

i have a few really god deimos'. got lucky

[mild junco]

Well, it's bad

[feral verge]

no its ot

not that bad

[whole oxide]

? thats not bad

[feral verge]

you can swap deflector and precog for uncanny and unstable power

the only bad thing on it would be infested

which

[whole oxide]

or keep deflector and swap infested

[feral verge]

isnt the absolute worst perk to have

[whole oxide]

uncanny isn't really a must-have on deimos, it mostly ignored armour anyway

[frank moat]

Lighting the blessed incense for you

[feral verge]

uncanny is great on deimos

[frank moat]

Oh oof late to that

[slow raven]

i'd probably switch the blessings and leave the perks, you already have maniac which is the most important, i dont find the 2nd perk that important

[feral verge]

on weapon special, uncanny procs 4-5 times

on one hit

[whole oxide]

so what

it already ignored armour

you can't ignore armour MORE

[spice veldt]

with how rending currently works, you can

[whole oxide]

yeah, i know

but, keeping it simple

not saying its bad, but its not a "must have"

[feral verge]

nor was i

[whole oxide]

if you already ignore armour, then uncanny is at most a 20? 25? % damage mod, which is nice, but, there's other stuff which is roughly equivalent

[feral verge]

what else you gonna put on it

[reef nacelle]

are psykers just bad vs monstrosoties

[feral verge]

deflector? you can just dodge bullets

[whole oxide]

slaughterer, unstable

[feral verge]

slaughterer? maybe, but you being kinda funny if you attacking hordes

[whole oxide]

and deflector isn't redundant

[feral verge]

idk how more damage is redundant

[unreal tapir]

yea it seems like unless you have a perfect voidstaff or go for gun build you cant really kill monstrosities

and who plays a mage to use a gun

[limber grove]

Is light attack good?

[lyric burrow]

no

duelling sword mk4 is all heavies

[cinder moon]

mkiv light attacks are fine

[lyric burrow]

i dont really find any reason to ever use them

[spice veldt]

they exist but you're basically only using them against groaners

or if a light is enough to finish somebody after a heavy

or vice versa to build up uncanny strike/true aim/etc. stacks

[lyric burrow]

even if i need something quick i can push and dodge back which gives me plenty of space

then i can swap to my staff or something

[cinder moon]

spam light attacks at head level with shred/uncanny, job done

add in some soulblaze for spice

[autumn smelt]

If you find yourself in malice and below tho, the lights 1 shot poxwalkers and groaners to the head and it's so fun and flashy

[spice veldt]

heavies deal 6x the base damage of lights, and lights unfortunately do not attack 6 times faster than heavies

[cinder moon]

the real answer is "use X attack when it's appropriate"

saying lights are worthless and to only use heavies won't help

[spice veldt]

i genuinely do just use heavies against poxwalkers

[gray sedge]

As someone just getting back into the game I had an easy time figuring out my Zealot and Veteran build but Emperor preserve me can I not figure out how I'm supposed to spec this tree for my flame staff I like using >.>

[spice veldt]

it is extremely rare for me to use lights except specifically against groaners

or if I know that I have x amount of uncanny strike stacks and I can just dunk of a shotgunner without a second heavy

[autumn smelt]

I use lights against groups of more than 5 tho

[spice veldt]

and i'm coming from the h2 which doesn't have a fast followup into the h1, or when I don't have the muscle memory for the special -> h1 -> h2 loop yet

[cinder moon]

push into attack works pretty good for crowd management

[unique mist]

i use mk4ds lights all the time

because i panic

[spice veldt]

push-attack makes me big sad because it's an uppercut

i'd prob swap to the mk2 once that gets buffed so that I can fish for true aim stacks more efficiently

[unique mist]

oh shit there's a horde on me, too close for voidstrike and i dont wanna get yelled at by my teammates for assail spam so uh shit light attack spam baby

[cinder moon]

i need a good mk2 just for the trifecta

[spice veldt]

and to take advantage of the unique property of DS push-attacks

[unique mist]

what's that

[spice veldt]

where they maintain their full finesse bonus for the first 3 targets, unlike the majority of melee attacks which only maintain their full finesse bonus for a single attack before dropping to 1.15x

[cinder moon]

aim at the ground and spam void m2 lol

works best if you have warp flurry

[spice veldt]

push-attacks are still peepee poopoo because they have the damage profile of lights, but an overhead push-attack would've been noticeable better

i should prob do more camera manip with DS push-attacks

[cinder moon]

i'm still conditioned into push-attack spam from using eviscerator all the time pre-13

it was one of the best ways to make it useful

[spice veldt]

i want my true aim stacks

[unreal tapir]

the real answer is put on a deimos so you can push bursters and hounds then never swing. just push dash backwards and staff

[whole oxide]

meanwhile, rampage-MKIV chomping through poxwalkers with lights much faster than heavies

[feral verge]

are oyu push attacking

[whole oxide]

every 3s or so

[spice veldt]

prolly every 7-8 attacks

that was the rotation with the mk2 iirc

either that or it was the mk4 that I used before

[feral verge]

does this dueling sword-wannabe deimos bother you arco

[spice veldt]

the owner of it bothers me

[feral verge]

lmao

[strong gulch]

Finally got around to using to revamped surge. I like it.

[burnt island]

Returned to psyker since the update and trying out the alternative abilities. Lol I can hear the "Witness your DOOOOOOM!!!!" when using smite.

[paper loom]

Not sure if I'm doing something wrong , when I buy the grey items from blunts armory I have to check my inventory to see what I've got. Is there sn option to see yhe item as you purchase?

[steel flame]

Being yelled at for using assail is one of the stupidest reasons to handicap yourself I have ever heard

Shits out of control

[paper loom]

I love assail but ppl forget psyker has ppl stealing our brain burst for ages before now

[plucky flax]

Super low level lobby in auric maelstrom. Went about just as expected.. Dunno why I even try.

[spice veldt]

hmm is rampage giving a larger bonus than listed

my ds light deals 217 w/o and can one-shot a poxwalker at 375 hp with t4 rampage procced

[steel flame]

Huh

Space magic

[vestal fulcrum]

I've been trying to get 1 game with not deaths to complete a Melk contract. Guess how many times it took to complete

[spice veldt]

HMMMMMMMMM

[vestal fulcrum]

Mission failed, we'll get them next time.

[spice veldt]

rampage is giving a 100% damage increase

[plucky flax]

It's sedition time.

[vestal fulcrum]

I don't do that. Auric Damnation or go home

[plucky flax]

[unique mist]

How are you proccing rampage on ds

[vestal fulcrum]

With that said, I really need to drop this contract on Psyker

I just can't carry people without them dying

[plucky flax]

Difficulty level: impossible.

[steel flame]

Aight I need to know. Are people actually getting mad at people using assail in game or is this just the shitposters kicking up bullshit again cause it sounds like bullshit

[spice veldt]

push-attacks

[unique mist]

I tried that and couldn't get it to work

[kind knot]

how bad is this pistol?

[feral verge]

bad

[kind knot]

oof

what exactly is bad about it?

[spice veldt]

@whole oxide you were right about rampage, because it's giving a ~2x increase to damage instead of the listed 1.36x from power. It doesn't increase power by the same amount, so there's some fuckery going on

[feral verge]

blessings

you want handcannon and surgical

[kind knot]

ok so i can jus swap those out for something nicer then

[feral verge]

if not surgical,t hen crucian roulette

[unique mist]

Its mostly only at psykers who only use assail the whole mission and are noobs who havent learnt anything because of it

But yes

[plucky flax]

Hand cannon bug abuser.

[unique mist]

People are 100% getting mad at psykers using assail

reddit has constant complaints

So much so there is a pinned Assail megathread

[vestal fulcrum]

It's hard not to mald when it's an effortless way of killing everything that you can't reasonably kill otherwise, with "most" options anyway

And without relying on your teammates to do so, either

[plucky flax]

Meh people can play what they want.

It's just game. :0

[feral verge]

no

they play what i want them to play

[vestal fulcrum]

I don't care. I'm playing BR anyway, so all is well

[plucky flax]

I play meme builds then lose and I'm like

[unique mist]

https://redd.it/176gsgy

[vestal fulcrum]

Missing out on Psykinetic's and Wildfire is inadvisable

[plucky flax]

Hrm.. what did I bring memes into auric maelstrom and expect to have 3 good teammates to carry my memes.

Turn out every one is bringing memes in solo matching making.

[spice veldt]

this seems intended https://streamable.com/0xpve1

[whole oxide]

trololol

[spice veldt]

i can not believe fatshark would do this to us

what in the world would cause this

[plucky flax]

What about rampage on heavy sword?

[cinder moon]

idc if they're killing things, what i care about is the fact they haven't learned to actually play the game because they've been crutching on an auto-kill ability for their entire experience; the sheer number of assail psykers i see now in t5 pugs who are clearly console players and don't even fucking dodge, holy shit

[plucky flax]

Does it make double damage?

[spice veldt]

i don't wanna test zealot so ima test the chord

[spice veldt]

IT'S THE SAME ON THE CHAIN SWORD

OH NO

[plucky flax]

So it's the same on heavy sword we can expect.

I can have some meme materials with heavy sword hand cannon crit meme build.

[spice veldt]

god bless rampage

[whole oxide]

inb4 they just added the new +power effect without removing the old +damage

[thorn cedar]

that's exactly what it is

[spice veldt]

yup same on the hsword

lmaoooooooo

[lyric burrow]

so rampage BIS now?

[thorn cedar]

its still pretty difficult to maintain and trigger on the dueling swords

[idle bay]

Sibling i just witnessed a curious BUG: Preach was able to hold the Relic idefinetely....

[ashen schooner]

They REALLY believed

[ocean ice]

I spent hours trying to get warp battery, god damn.

Fun but painful

[eager spruce]

@ocean ice How did you manage to get it? Been trying but seems it has to be 300 seconds without ever droping a single warp charge, not just 300 seconds all together in one mission. Litterally one elevator or a lack of special enemies for over 25 seconds and you're done for.

Didn't feel like a skill check and more like are you lucky or not for the time I have been trying.

[idle bay]

It was Damnation Maelstorm mission - so he probably did 🙂

[burnt island]

As a vet main, no one told me about this psyker drip.

[ocean ice]

I went for maelstrom, well particular modes that resolve around spawning more specialists and elites, alongside hunting grounds.

[idle bay]

No matter how good shop drip are for Psyker - i find Original Redacted Penances Psyker's Drip Set Better

[vestal fulcrum]

Truth be told, I for one haven't seen many console players, let alone good ones, although it will probably take some more time for good players to emerge.

As for Assail being a crutch - it certainly doesn't encourage optimal following inputs, which can lead to a disaster.

[ocean ice]

I'm trying to get that right now!

just uh

[devout belfry]

So what blessings is everyone running on the mk 4 rapier?

[ocean ice]

Physically impossible for me to get the malleus Penance, have zero friends.

[vestal fulcrum]

Uncanny + Riposte/Precognition/Shred seem to be popular choices

[narrow crane]

shred and uncanny strike

[vestal fulcrum]

But Rampage is apparently capable of some stupid damage output if activated, too

[cinder moon]

you can more easily tell if they're console players when you spectate them

[plucky flax]

How to differentiate console players vs gamepass players?

[ocean ice]

The menu

[idle bay]

There is a LFG chat here - i did it long tiime ago using it.

[rose dagger]

Press Esc and click Social

[vestal fulcrum]

I just look by their account names (due courtesy of "Who are you?" mod). If it does not have a steam logo, it's either a console player or MS store player.

[cinder moon]

or if you do weapon switch spam in elevators, they switch weapons super slow

i don't look at account names until the end screen

[ocean ice]

Well, thanks!
I'll check it out once I get to trust level 30 on psyker. (100 XP away, god damn)

[plucky flax]

Does it say xbox or something?

[vestal fulcrum]

It shows an icon of a globe

With "Who are you" mod, and appropriate account name display, that is

[plucky flax]

That's just gamepass no?

Aaah

Veri kool

[rose dagger]

It shows a globe without that mod

[plucky flax]

I actually haven't seen any console gamer yet.

[ocean ice]

Though I'm using PC at the moment.

[rose dagger]

I see Xbox players even on auric

[vestal fulcrum]

Oh it does? Good to know, I suppose.

[idle bay]

Going out with a Bang , Monstrum Maleus back in a day were tough to get. Cliffhanger ruired 20 zobmbies to push into abyss... Good old days

[vestal fulcrum]

Ah yes, the 30+0 players that definitely know what they sign up for when they queue into Maelstrom/Auric

[plucky flax]

Block every xbox players I see tyvm (jk)

[cinder moon]

very easy for me to tell who's an xbox player vs who's playing on ms store

[ocean ice]

warp battery seemed easy af to get back then, now it's absolute painful.

for me personally.

[devout belfry]

And what perks? Crit and?

[narrow crane]

25% Mutant damage and Flak is good

[plucky flax]

If you find a melee only modifiers there are so many elites there.

[narrow crane]

sorry Maniac damage*************

[plucky flax]

Fairly easy to keep warp charges as long as you don't expend them with shriek.

[ocean ice]

Yeah, I managed to get it because I kept rushing on ahead and somehow surviving every elite encounter.

though stressful seeing it go down.

[idle bay]

Time to try Unlimited Power mod, since i star using Smite... it's time for lulz 🙂

[ocean ice]

Anyway, probably going to try get the malleus penance

[narrow crane]

Yeah it's easiest on Auric Maelstrom scab melee modifier, I did it with Trauma staff but it'd probably be easier with Voidstrike now

[ocean ice]

I want that drip shirt.

[long osprey]

Does surge work on the charged attacks with void strike staff now?

Or only primary

[narrow crane]

def

it's why it's so broken rn

[cinder moon]

nothing quite like headshotting everything on the archivum sycorax bridge after the one airlock and hearing 20 KRK KRK BOOMS

[rose dagger]

Doesn't work with trauma alt sadly

[long osprey]

Void was kinda underwhelming for a while

Now it’s a bit too OP

[unique mist]

Surge on trauma should like double the radius on a crit

[rose dagger]

It was worse than guns till the update yea

[unique mist]

Now its better

just straight up

[narrow crane]

This would be awesome but incredibly OP

[unique mist]

infinite ammo

[rose dagger]

Wizard should be the most powerful but most fragile anyway

[unique mist]

ok 50% increase

[minor vigil]

For a requisition purchase is this a good staff for assail/voidstrike Psyker?

[narrow crane]

Trauma is busted, it's perfect as is

[narrow crane]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[rose dagger]

295 is horrible base, are you not lvl 30

[minor vigil]

Not yet on my Psyker

[unique mist]

Do not spend your melk coins until you are 30

[narrow crane]

dont get any of that til 30

[minor vigil]

ack roog seen

[unique mist]

Also sustained fire isn't a good perk on voidstrike

[minor vigil]

I was gonna grab it for Warp Nexus, and at worst melt it for the blessing

[unique mist]

the two main blessing combo's I would go for is warp nexus and surge or warp flurry and transfer peril

[narrow crane]

not worht it

Melk's shop is really only useful for grabbing the occasional T4 blessing or god roll, both of which rarely happens

[unique mist]

Save your melkoins for t4 blessings

[feral verge]

no

save money

until you are level 30

[sonic coral]

OK am I crazy or was there an ability where if someone kills someone affected by warp fire it spreads to more people?

[feral verge]

dont buy or craft anything

[sonic coral]

I can't seem to find it

[unreal tapir]

just bought 20 void staves and none of them rolled above 337 👍

[minor vigil]

Do blessings/research crossover characters?

[feral verge]

unless it is from brunt's armory

[feral verge]

top left of tree

[sonic coral]

yes

[feral verge]

perilus combustion or osmething

[sonic coral]

Thank you

[frank moat]

Wildfire, it’s just beneath Brain Rupture

[strong gulch]

wildfire

[rose dagger]

I've once spent nearly a million on a good base roll

Crafting system is egregious

[narrow crane]

crafting system is a lie, it's a slot machine

[unreal tapir]

i already have a good staff im just looking for staves that arent complete trash to try to get the other t4 mod i need. took like 1.5k plasteel to hit surge iv and now im like 11k in looking for my other mod