#psyker-class

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harsh urchin
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Jesus

spice veldt
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only deranged people have their dodge key set to shift

clear heath
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idk i still use ctrl for crouch

harsh urchin
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Imagine trying to slide with ctrl

cyan notch
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bro u have deranged ui u cant judge peoples hotkeys

viral solstice
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its a game no other human has ever played

spice veldt
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this is true

clear heath
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i just press em both

viral solstice
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they invented texture smoothing

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and arco looked at it and was like

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brother

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its time to smooth some fuckin textures

limber heath
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yea sliding with ctrl is very straightforward, just flatten your pinky

spice veldt
cyan notch
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quake 2.5 (years in jail for crimes against my eyes)

spice veldt
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I only have my texture settings slightly cranked up to reduce the probability of people remarking on it

viral solstice
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go full on smooth mode

spice veldt
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true

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time to change the numbers to -1

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HERE WEEEEEE GOOOOOO

viral solstice
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like that dude i knew who played cs 1.6 with every texture 100% averaged

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over every surface

spice veldt
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that's optimal gaming

cyan notch
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i would put dead bodies to 0 if i could

viral solstice
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i played it on 640x480

winter magnet
harsh urchin
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LOL

limber heath
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no?

spice veldt
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unsolicited csgo video

harsh urchin
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esp sliding everywhere

spice veldt
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my life was threatened

winter magnet
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doggie :)

harsh urchin
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also, do you have dodge on spacebar?

spice veldt
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(that dog has killed 20 men)

winter magnet
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good doggie :D

spice veldt
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wtf

limber heath
harsh urchin
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so you press dodge, then press ctrl with pinky, can u keep rest of your hand on WASD?

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it kinda hurts my pinky

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to press ctrl in that stance

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cuz my pinky naturally wants to sit around tab/capslock

winter magnet
harsh urchin
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sprinting is alright but ctrl is a bit far

limber heath
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i mean lets be real if it doesn't work for you it doesn't work, i'm not about to gatekeep keybinds KEKW_ogryn unless they're like super weird but putting it on a mouse button makes sense

harsh urchin
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no like i legitimately am curious

limber heath
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i just have weapon special on a mouse button and haven't changed it lol

harsh urchin
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cuz backsliding

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and sidesliding

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with dodge

limber heath
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yea backsliding is fine for me

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and sidesliding

harsh urchin
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was legitimately awful

limber heath
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and forward sliding even, if you believe it

spice veldt
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i personally don't like stuff on mouse binds if I can help it since it throws off my aim

harsh urchin
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forward sliding is actually fine cuz ur hitting shift to sprint anyways

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main problem is hitting direction, then spacebar then ctrl

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was giga cancer

winter magnet
viral solstice
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smh

harsh urchin
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i'm 31

winter magnet
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lmao

lethal lagoon
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I have weapon specal on X, seems solid

harsh urchin
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actually i'm 12

limber heath
winter magnet
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Ive got no clue

harsh urchin
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and i have a tiny hand

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reeeeeee

viral solstice
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im sorry when i have gottem this hard i have to go to sleep gl

spice veldt
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bai bai

winter magnet
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when my hands were small I would move my thumb from space and click shift with/control with my thumb like some sorta pyschopath

winter magnet
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hehehe

winter magnet
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brawlhalla beat that out of me

cyan notch
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why are you jerking

spice veldt
harsh urchin
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man

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i'm so sad

brave vale
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dumpstat on deimos is warp resistance right?

harsh urchin
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that only the dueling sword 4 is good

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i like the 5 way more

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in terms of moveset

spice veldt
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i like the mk2 cuz of the sweeping heavy

winter magnet
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Ive been using the mk 5 on my auric runs and it's doing good work

harsh urchin
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sadly it just does like 40% less damage

spice veldt
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mk5 has the nice h1 -> h2 -> l3 loop which is fun

harsh urchin
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compared to the 4

winter magnet
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yea I just dont have a good 4

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tbh im the other way around and like the 4 moveset more

spice veldt
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mk4 has the special -> h1 -> h2 loop, and mk2 has the sweep heavy

winter magnet
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but ive got a boppin 5

spice veldt
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the differences between the duelling swords are of the more interesting variety

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taxes wish they could be this cool

winter magnet
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im going to go get something to drink

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goodbye for now wizards

spice veldt
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bye

brave vale
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whats the dumpstat on deimos

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warp resist?

harsh urchin
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yar

cyan notch
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u can drop some mobility too

brave vale
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one on left costs the special currency

harsh urchin
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left one has good stats

brave vale
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Argh

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MY MONIES

harsh urchin
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slaughterer is also pretty nice to have on it

ornate hamlet
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whats the dump stat for staffs?

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quell speed or warp resistance right

harsh urchin
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depends on the staff lol

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and the build

ornate hamlet
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purgatus for example

ebon jolt
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Damage for Purgatus.

ornate hamlet
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i imagine its quell speed

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since its not a huge deal quelling slightly faster

ebon jolt
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Burn is most important, followed by blast radius and charge speed.

rotund dagger
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What is this High Damage nonsense this description is on about

coarse elk
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More like high stun

ornate hamlet
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did they even playtest psyker

harsh urchin
ornate hamlet
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how could they overtune him so much

harsh urchin
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considering they significantly buffed the on-hit damage

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for the purg

rotund dagger
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buff smite

ornate hamlet
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fix smite

rotund dagger
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it feels kinda bad compared to assail

ornate hamlet
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assail is overtune

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d

rotund dagger
ornate hamlet
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like the dueling swords and void staff

coarse elk
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Just buff Shards KEKW_ogryn

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Give us 15 and do 500 dmg its so simple

cyan notch
ornate hamlet
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watch them nerf every class except psyker and not fix any bugs next patch

harsh urchin
# cyan notch u sure? its not in patch notes

Rifthaven Mk II Purgatus Force Staff

Primary Base Damage (0%, 80% Damage Stat):
From 5, 13 to 15, 27.
Primary Impact (0%, 80% Damage Stat):
From 5, 9 to 10,18.
Secondary Base Damage (0%, 80% Damage Stat):
1st Target: 8, 11.2 to 12, 21.6.
2nd Target: 10, 14.8 to 20, 36.
3rd Target: 12, 18.4 to 30, 54.
4th Target: 15, 27 to 40, 72.
5th Target: 17.5, 31.5 to 45, 81.
6th Target: 20, 36 to 50, 90.
7th Target: 40, 56 to 40, 56.

coarse elk
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I cant wait for shards to be nerfed esp when its not fun for the rest of the team let alone the psyker

ornate hamlet
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idk why people bug abuse smite when its not fun either

coarse elk
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Theres a bug with smite?

rotund dagger
coarse elk
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Ohhhh

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Thats stanky

rotund dagger
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Its fun asf

coarse elk
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Just free horde free then huh angymorrow

ornate hamlet
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i kick them or leave if theyre not kicked

coarse elk
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People are gonna use bugs/broken stuff still it gets adjusted simple as

summer prairie
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"6th Target: 20, 36 to 50, 90.
7th Target: 40, 56 to 40, 56." that's some weird numbers

coarse elk
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Cries in old power sword veteran

rotund dagger
ornate hamlet
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let me kill my teamates fps and ruin the fun for everyone

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and then insult anyone whos against me

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people like me btw

blazing vector
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Fellow psykers I just recently started playing the class and need a secondary for crowd control, what would you reccomend?

ornate hamlet
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purgatus, void staff, trauma staff

rotund dagger
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also use empowered psionics

ornate hamlet
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if gun psyker, use the recon lasguns

rotund dagger
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๐ŸŒฉ๏ธ

blazing vector
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thanks thumbsup_ogryn

obsidian arch
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can psykers use chainswords

coarse elk
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Gun psyker is so silly

ornate hamlet
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void staff especially is extremely overtuned

coarse elk
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Like use the warp

ornate hamlet
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insane single target and crowd control

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they use the warp on their guns duh

cyan notch
rotund dagger
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smite go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

summer prairie
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Do you really do more damage to the 6th boss if you line them up in the grinder

coarse elk
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Unlimited powerrrr OmegaGuardsmanHype

rotund dagger
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limited power until you START USING EMPOWERED PSIONICS

blazing vector
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I also am looking for a single target high damage primary what do you reccomend?

coarse elk
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Dueling sword

cyan notch
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why does it do more damage on the later targets lmao that doesnt seem intuitive

steel flame
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Dueling sword mk4

brisk agate
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Just getting into Psyker and got the Voidstrike: what blessings and perks do I want?

rotund dagger
brisk agate
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Ah okay

spice veldt
harsh urchin
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@spice veldt have you fucked wit dclaws

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What u got for me

spice veldt
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but once you have enough points to get the True Aim talent, the Surge blessing is the one to go for on the vstrikes

spice veldt
spice veldt
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but I know that the parry can one-shot a dreg rager to the head

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the dclaw parries have an insane finesse multiplier

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the parry attack is a diagonal uppercut so you might have to move your camera to make it hit the head

harsh urchin
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Hmm so the main thing is you need to parry?

spice veldt
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yeah the parry is actually good

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you can also parry crusher overheads

harsh urchin
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That might be a skip for me then lul

spice veldt
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shame

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the light/heavies also got buffed

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clears 80 poxwalkers in 15 seconds which is fine (on the MK I)

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with savage sweep + rampage

harsh urchin
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Savage sweep tho

cyan notch
harsh urchin
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Is anybody using that

spice veldt
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tru

hearty laurel
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y'all, gamers, i have a mk V force sword with shred (increased crit chance with each hit) and blazing spirit (applies 4 stacks of soulblaze on crit) is that good or should i instead use somethin that raises my sword's power% instead of shred?

spice veldt
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hmm, does Shred still drop its stacks when you activate the special on the illisi?

rotund dagger
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They're catachan knives

hearty laurel
cyan notch
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we already have catachan knife

spice veldt
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if Shred still drops stacks on special activation, then I'd advise against using Shred on the illisi

viscid matrix
spice veldt
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yeah, since the special activation breaks the chain

viscid matrix
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welp if its still the case then rampage is better

spice veldt
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o on the Illisi not the dclaw

hearty laurel
rotund dagger
marble locust
glossy hazel
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I wonder how much ||fun|| this would be with wildfire

hearty laurel
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quite enjoyable truly

glossy hazel
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Yea it seems pretty fun but nothing beats slaughterer

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Good thing I have two Illisis

hearty laurel
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there's this and then there's an illisi i can put slaughterer and uncanny strike on

hearty laurel
fresh reef
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purgatus good

hearty laurel
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OH right, purgatus

viscid matrix
fresh reef
cyan notch
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they killed a lot of specials

fresh reef
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all level 100+ and were rarely out of position

hearty laurel
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ok so assuming purgatus applies soulblaze, does that mean the fire can also spread if using wildfire?

fresh reef
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our knife zealot got a little quirky, but she never got trapped or anything when she ran ahead so it's chill

viscid matrix
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yeh i just had a closer look ๐Ÿ˜„

cyan notch
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wdym assuming it can apply soulblaze

cyan notch
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it literally shoots soulblaze

hearty laurel
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i had asked dis question once b4 but wasn't sure. now i am, doe. thanx lads

viscid matrix
# fresh reef hell nah, they were all good

actually going by your numbers, you did the least damage, because of how much overkill damage you did ๐Ÿ˜„ you did almost half of your damage as overkill, compared to the others with 1/3rd 1/5th and 1/10th

fresh reef
summer prairie
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overkill isn't included in the main dmg stat

fresh reef
coarse elk
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Ah

viscid matrix
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its a mod

cyan notch
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it says actual damage right there tho

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overkill is separate

viscid matrix
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is it? i thought it was part of total damage

summer prairie
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it's not, you can do more overkill than "total" damage

tacit urchin
cinder mesa
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on that note, i should get into modding the game

fresh reef
tacit urchin
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I know there's spread on kill effects, do burning bodies burn on contact?

viscid matrix
fresh reef
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lemme get a clip rq

hearty laurel
tacit urchin
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I wasn't given the impression monster ragdolls actually existed

fresh reef
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unlike other on-kill effects, Wildfire basically makes a radius for a time around where an enemy dies

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in effect, this makes it spread from corpses

fresh reef
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oh, my mistake actually

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it seems they patched that

viscid matrix
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Bort was on fire, look at that 190k damage to bosses

fringe meadow
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Whats a good build to use the electric hands, I havent been able to make a good one for it

stiff rivet
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Do i want a staff for gun as psyker?

hearty laurel
glossy hazel
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Just me or is disrupt destiny just better void charges?
6 stacks of charges give you 24% damage boost.
30 stacks of disrupt destiny give you 30% damage boost, 60% critical damage, 75% weakspot damage.
I guess it's harder to stack disrupt destiny but still.

fresh reef
hearty laurel
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interesting that it was a bug in the first place lol

limber heath
stiff rivet
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ok ill try it out and see

limber heath
stiff rivet
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just started and lvl 7 now

limber heath
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try everything while you're levelling, you'll find out what you like that way instead of finding out what other people like

viscid matrix
limber heath
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of course a lot of stuff will feel worse so focus on the general moveset.

glossy hazel
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Yea, more power for harder maintenance

fresh reef
viscid matrix
fresh reef
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Assail is overtuned on Damnation, but it's just outright stupid on everything below that

stiff rivet
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im not familiar with Assail

viscid matrix
stiff rivet
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oh ok.

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i have a special ability but unsure how to use

limber heath
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should be clarified that you still have to vaguely aim them they won't just autotarget weakpoints for you (well they will but loosely)

viscid matrix
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Blitz abilities are your 3 weapon

limber heath
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i thoiught blitz came out on G but i rebound to C so idk KEKW_ogryn

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is it really 3 ๐Ÿค”

viscid matrix
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i have it on 3 ๐Ÿ˜„ it might not be

tacit urchin
viscid matrix
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hmm, i want to find out, but dont want to have to rebind everything again

steel flame
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fucking christ its like a cointoss whether i get on and run perfectly fine or if i get all the shit servers that run like shit

fresh reef
# tacit urchin

the difference between "look at this cool rock I found" and "I need to charge my amethyst with postitive energy" has never been so profound

tawny raptor
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im new, if i want to run assail what staff should i pair with it?

stiff rivet
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Also is this like vermintide wheres they potions and grenades?

strong gulch
limber heath
strong gulch
tawny raptor
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between voidstrike and trauma which one should i use?

limber heath
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i guess if you consider grimoires a consumable since you can consume them once you have them they also count whatthefuck_heresy

stiff rivet
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hidden grimoires in all missions?

limber heath
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only missions with grimoires have grimoires

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hope that helps

limber heath
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voidstrike is overtuned to hell so crutching it might not be ideal

tawny raptor
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im jus tryna run thru the missions and get big numbers, big numbers big happy yknow what im sayin

strong gulch
limber heath
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purgatus also works well but psyker has good hoord options

tawny raptor
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big numbers

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urah

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thanks friends

limber heath
autumn smelt
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(ik this was a few hours ago but it was on my screen when i clicked on this channel and i wanna reply lol)
heresy sure, but the jump from heresy to damnation in terms of rewards is so drastic, that failing halfway through a damnations nets you as much as a completed malice
plus the added benefit of a completed damnation almost always giving you a fully upgraded weapon for free, lots of my blessings in my sticker collection are from mission rewards, i was able to build my first knife yesterday for my zealot and already had some of the better blessings already and i didnt even realize
on top of that, youll get a lot better by playing lots of damnations, even if you arent winning (i would know)
just quickplay damnation honestly, you may think its sweaty, but its honestly full of people who just got good at the game via pushing themselves

spice veldt
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though I don't use it as my main damage against crushers because it will also spread crushers outwards

limber heath
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yea thas fair

spice veldt
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I do spam it if they're grouped, but otherwise I poke at them with a duelling sword if they're not grouped enough for a trauma to be worth it

strong gulch
agile acorn
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what's with people aggro'ing DHs and leaving after they get killed by it?

dense bramble
limber heath
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that's why i spend 15 minutes pinging any DH

tawny raptor
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speaking of swords, whats a good melee to run?

agile acorn
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I do too but it's like they're either too stupid/blind or just want to grief or something

tawny raptor
agile acorn
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I ping DH a vet starts shooting at it with their lasgun

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it's an eye, not a skull

limber heath
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if you have assail and voidstrike you don't really need anything else but probably mk4 duelly for mutants since that's about the only thing assail and VS aren't excellent against

unique mist
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could do chainsword for both single and hordes

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ilissi force sword for deflector

autumn smelt
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deimos is a close second for single target, and is perfectly fine if you prefer it tho

tawny raptor
hearty laurel
lyric burrow
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on malice itll shread everything yeah

autumn smelt
tawny raptor
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im level 25 ๐Ÿ’€

limber heath
autumn smelt
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yeah in malice you breath on shit and itll die

spice veldt
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you could go for the illisi or whatever since you are running void + assail

limber heath
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I didn't say anything to imply assail wasn't good, and in malice its even better (everything is weaker KEKW_ogryn)

spice veldt
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but I'd personally run the mk4 DS with that setup

autumn smelt
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i noticed earlier today that my dueling sword 1 shots a groaner to the head with a light attack on malice

dense bramble
unique mist
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is the mk8 combat axe any good, brunt has a basically perfectly statted one with 80 in everything but mobility but i heard they're not good

autumn smelt
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it takes 3 on damnation lol

limber heath
dense bramble
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My 2 fav psyker melee. I never really liked ilisi. I use the shield a lot

limber heath
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fuck

dense bramble
tawny raptor
vagrant frigate
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loving gun psyker rn

autumn smelt
tawny raptor
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is it just harder or are there any special features only on heresy and damnation?

dense bramble
autumn smelt
limber heath
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randoms are heresy in cursed but if you're playing psyker in its current state you'll be fine

dense bramble
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Youre a random too

vagrant frigate
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scrier + marked target + gun = fun af

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mk7

tawny raptor
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aight thanks fellas

dense bramble
autumn smelt
tawny raptor
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ah okay

autumn smelt
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with 0 wound curios, you will have 2 wounds on heresy/damnation

spice veldt
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the ranged damage reduction mechanic is also less lenient

tawny raptor
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im not very knowledgeable, what does wound do?

vagrant frigate
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is a down without death

autumn smelt
tawny raptor
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ah i see

autumn smelt
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yknow how when you pick someone up after their down, that part is gooped up

tawny raptor
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yessir

autumn smelt
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thats a reduction in max health

limber heath
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gooped up KEKW_ogryn

tawny raptor
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uh huh

spice veldt
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there's a mechanic that grants you damage reduction against ranged attacks whenever your toughness is broken
On higher difficulties, the duration of this mechanic is shorter, and the cooldown is longer

autumn smelt
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if you go down when goop is in your last wound, youre dead dead

tawny raptor
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gotcha

autumn smelt
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so basically, less times you can be downed before youre actually dead

tawny raptor
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yaโ€™ll think ill be alr on a maelstrom heresy mission rn?

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havent really tried it yet

autumn smelt
limber heath
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maelstroms are going to be the biggest possible spike, i would at least try normal heresy or even hi int heresy first

tawny raptor
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its been a long time since ive played ( vet powersword ๐Ÿ’€ )

autumn smelt
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most fun missions in the game

tawny raptor
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real

autumn smelt
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absolute chaos

limber heath
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yea the game gets significantly better when its a clusterfuck

autumn smelt
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ok bye starting the monsterous specials maelstrom

tawny raptor
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btw what is auric?

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im lookin at it and its a maelstrom damnation mission ๐Ÿ’€

remote gale
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It seems that dumdum (the blessing for guns that gives damage on close range hit) is activated by warpfire, regardless of distance, which pretty much means 30% extra damage if anyone is on fire

limber heath
autumn smelt
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so basically a masochist mission board

strong gulch
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Wish the mobility was higher so I could get another full dodge. I'm happy with it for now tho.

obsidian arch
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what is better guys venting shriek or scriers gaze? im using the needles

north cradle
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I'd say Venting Shriek, because for one, I don't think Scryer's Gaze is worth it unless you're running Gun Psyker. The other is that you'll chew through your Peril

strong gulch
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I feel like gaze conflicts with assail because it builds peril. Easy way to explose.

north cradle
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And you'll build fewer stacks

strong gulch
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If you want to focus on non warp thing, gaze can be good.

limber marsh
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currently using the dagger, but what is a good build and melee weapon if I want to go almost pure melee?

north cradle
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Chainsword is mad right now

obsidian arch
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when i use assail i find myself building peril super fast so i naturally wanted to go venting route, but i didnt know how much dmg id be missing out on

north cradle
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I still like my Deimos tho just for deleting Ragers

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And because my Illisi was nerfed when Slaughterer was

elder tartan
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quick question, does the head item equipped by the left psyker in the character creation screen exist? if so, how is it obtained? I can only find the version with a cloth facemask and fewer top-of-the-head attachments

strong gulch
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Haven't tried chainsword, but Deimos is pretty versatile. Great single target with all of the force sword perks. It can handle hordes fine, but it does well against armored and beefy targets.

Mk 4 dueling sword has been buffed throught the roof. Not as strong pushes as Deimos, but simpler to use.

north cradle
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I think the Psyker face veil comes from the "aggregate challenge"

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The one where you complete a bunch of challenges to unlock

unique mist
elder tartan
north cradle
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Ah okay

strong gulch
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I guess mouth cover only.

elder tartan
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is there a way to see/browse/etc premium store items that aren't in the current rotation?

unique mist
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not unless you go through old reddit posts

elder tartan
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thank you king

glossy hazel
atomic zephyr
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Is devastating strike useful?

glossy hazel
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Compared to wrath/savage sweep, no not really.

unique mist
brave fiber
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thoughts on this surge staff?

keen harbor
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it's perfect

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well, change out the perks, obviously

brave fiber
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should i just roll crit dmg and chance for the perks

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yeah

agile acorn
keen harbor
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I don't remember what you want on surge

gilded viper
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Alright Voidstrike enthusiasts, what should I do here

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I finally got Surge so I think ima replace Transfer

brave fiber
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if anything change the perks

gilded viper
elder tartan
brave fiber
gilded viper
brave fiber
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if you do end up changing id recommend getting rid of transfer peril

plucky flax
gilded viper
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I mean if I got 1 of the builds then i might as well stick with what I got and fix the perks up

eager token
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would yall buy this from melk Hmm i have tier 4 warp flurry already

potent echo
#

I would but I also have 40k melkbucks

regal musk
#

The woirst part about tryiong Veteren after playing Psyker for 99% of my playtime .. is that super annoying weapon inspection everytime you pull the gun out >_<

potent echo
#

It's to nerf vets even more

regal musk
regal musk
potent echo
#

Vets need a break this patch wasn't very nice to them

regal musk
#

Vets deserve it. Lost count of how many times my BB got sniped back during the early days of launch lol

potent echo
#

Don't let them see that notaCOD

snow yarrow
#

What is the threshold to reach 20% extra damage for peril on this?

How much peril do you have to have to achieve 20% extra?

potent echo
#

Not too sure but I think it's 80

#

That's the same threshold as venting shriek to apply max soulblaze

#

Not sure if warp rider uses the same thresholds

spice veldt
#

i assume that it works like old warp unleashed but from 0% to 20%

potent echo
#

Haven't really tested because there isn't any interesting breakpoints I can find KEKW_ogryn

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At max stacks

spice veldt
#

i've been having my fun with assail so far to not have to worry about bps

acoustic osprey
#

big difference between unarmored and flak on purgatus?

potent echo
#

Yea

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Flak is the majority of elites

acoustic osprey
#

what are elites?

potent echo
#

Scab rager, mauler, shotgunners, gunners

#

Those are flak elites

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Other elites include bulwark, reaper and crusher

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And dreg rager

snow yarrow
#

Thx

unique mist
#

so it doesn't seem to have any breakpoints/thresholds and is instead a completely linear function of peril

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i.e. +20% at 100% peril, 18% at 80% etc.

spice veldt
#

WHAT

unique mist
#

kek

spice veldt
#

it's an always active +10% damage?

#

FATSHARK

terse saffron
#

which duelling sword has the best single target dps? do they all require a scrier's gaze build?

unique mist
#

mk4 i think

unique mist
# spice veldt FATSHARK

i'm now imagining you finding out some stupid IRL mechanic and just screaming at the top of your lungs aimed at the sky "GOD"

wicked sedge
#

KEKW_ogryn saw two fresh vets decide to blast their plasma gun into the daemon host. proceed to get eaten

spice veldt
spice veldt
unique mist
#

when the imperium tells you to purge heretics

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they dont allow you to pick and choose, OK?

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if you see a heretic in front of you, you gotta kill it

wicked sedge
#

loregryn but they so scary and icky

unique mist
#

they were just fulfilling their duty to the imperium

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and paid the price for it

#

a tale that's about 40k years old

wicked sedge
#

alright I'll attack the next daemon host I see yesgryn

near wyvern
summer prairie
#

It's just the old Psykinetic's Wrath

near wyvern
#

With a bit of a nerf

spice veldt
#

i genuinely did not think that they would keep the +10% as the lower boundary

terse saffron
#

thanks!

cyan notch
near wyvern
#

Scrier's gaze is a bit underwhelming

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IMO it generates peril too fast

summer prairie
#

honestly forgot what they renamed it to

near wyvern
terse saffron
#

the shittiest part of it is that you cant turn it off

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would've been a lot more useful otherwise

near wyvern
#

And now it's Warp Rider

cyan notch
#

psykineticโ€™s unleashed rider

near wyvern
#

Psykinetic's unleashed edge lord rider

near wyvern
spice veldt
#

no power off button ๐Ÿ˜”

near wyvern
#

Like give it 15 second base cooldown and allow the user to toggle it off, then we would be getting somewhere

#

Could actually use the toughness and movement speed boosts on that

#

Instead of 'oh horde, time to go bayblade'

summer prairie
#

One of the abilities, either DD or Scrier's gaze, was at some point the Psychic Fortress and it, among other things, gave Assail 10 cleave

rugged fiber
#

Assail KEKW_ogryn

summer prairie
#

It had a duration though

sly forge
#

Can I crit with surge staff or with the assail knives?

fierce crest
#

Yes and yes

sly forge
#

nice,thank you

#

and does the surge kill counts as warp attack kill?

unique mist
#

yes

plucky flax
#

Yes surge is op.

unique mist
#

surge is not op

plucky flax
unique mist
#

voidstrike is

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surge aint

plucky flax
#

Surge is very stronk.

rugged fiber
#

Surge is good/okay

unique mist
#

unless you are talking about the blessing

plucky flax
unique mist
#

with max quell speed staff and the 30% quell speed node i was able to quell through scriers peril regen for about 45 seconds

plucky flax
#

Nein the staff.

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I got like 900k damage yesterday playing surge staff.

sly forge
#

no im talking about the ligtning staff,i thinnk thats the surge one

rugged fiber
#

yes

unique mist
#

i know that you are talking about the staff

#

and it is not OP because it can't deal with big guys well and cannot hit weakspots

sly forge
#

well i like it ๐Ÿ˜›

unique mist
#

thats fine

#

it's a fun staff

sly forge
#

so I just hit lv30,should I buy new items from the shop and pump them to purple?

unique mist
#

only if they are 370+

bleak tulip
#

thats an oversimplification

#

there is plenty of weapons with bad enough dump stats that theyre great without being 370

unique mist
#

if they are fresh lvl 30 they wouldn't know about dump stats and stat distribution yet

#

but at fresh lvl 30 they need tier 4 blessings

#

370+ have good chances at t4 blessings

#

and overall they will have good/okay stats to use before they get good enough blessings

rugged fiber
#

360+ base stats is considered good

#

370+ is excellent

sly forge
#

Well if I craft a weapon at Brunt's armory its 340 white

rugged fiber
#

It's random

sly forge
#

so i keep crafting until i get a 370?

unique mist
#

yeah dont roll for weapons at brunt unless you have over 100k dockets

sly forge
#

i have 300k

#

gold

unique mist
#

instead you should wait for him to sell good statted weapons in his hourly rotation

rugged fiber
#

Well you can do it then, but be sure it's the weapon ye want

rugged fiber
unique mist
#

grab whatever you can over the week/weeks

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even if you arent going to use it

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there isn't a limit to how many items you can have in your inventory i dont think

rugged fiber
#

The number of weapons with 370+ rating that I have that I don't use KEKW_ogryn

primal aurora
sly forge
#

hm ,im not sure he has some guns but i mainly use staff

unique mist
#

staffs are the most painful to get blessings for

sly forge
#

i got one autogun 419

unique mist
#

thats not base rating

sly forge
#

its blue

unique mist
#

that is overall rating

#

we are talking about base rating

obtuse walrus
unique mist
#

this is base rating

obtuse walrus
#

If it kills, it good

unique mist
#

its highest is 380

sly forge
#

ah i see

#

well then he got nothing for now

unique mist
#

anyway, your method is fine for now

#

pick up something 360+

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so you dont spend too many dockets

#

and that doesn't have low stat in one of the main stats, like damage or charge rate

old flame
#

Whatโ€™s the special attack for dueling swords? It staggers?

unique mist
#

it's a quick thrust that hits one target and staggers

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low damage

sly forge
#

i got one 366

fading heath
#

whats is the dump stat for voidstrike?

unique mist
#

depends on what you like

#

some say warp resistance, some say quell speed, blast radius is also a candidate

#

blast radius is stagger radius so i wouldnt dump that

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i like warp resistance for horde clear

#

so maybe go quell speed

hollow cargo
#

is there a list for best blessings for force swords n stuff

fading heath
#

yeah probably quell then thanks

sly forge
#

I got run and gun on my staff,amazing

obtuse walrus
#

Warp resistance prevents how quickly you build peril right?

unique mist
#

ye

obtuse walrus
#

Yeah, I'd prefer that over quell speed. Since quell speed is already super fast

spice veldt
plucky flax
#

Rare 3 gamepass players lobby.

rugged fiber
#

indeed

spice veldt
spice veldt
zealous sierra
#

What blessing and perks do i need

#

Stats too

#

My illisi is doing sad

spice veldt
#

for blessings, Uncanny Strike + your pick of Riposte/Shred/Precognition

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I prefer Riposte in general, and Precognition for melee/monstrosity maelstrom

unique mist
spice veldt
#

for stats, Damage and Finesse are really all you care about

  • Cleave Damage only scales Unarmoured and Infested (it doesn't scale Flak because it's bugged)
  • Penetration only scales Carapace (it doesn't scale Flak because it's bugged). With max Uncanny Strike stacks up, an 80% Penetration MK4 DS will only deal 1.068x more damage to Carapace than a 0% Penetration DS
unique mist
#

Solo horde clear: the staff

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All clips on damnation

#

(I think)

old flame
spice veldt
#

I usually just heavy maulers

#

since ragers especially encroach on your space and are not as easy to poke at while staying at a distance

old flame
#

Normally I quick tap them with a revolver if I can

#

Switching in mid melee to shot something is so satisfying

plucky flax
#

Sry I prefer to horde clear with assail.

#

You have to aim with voidstrike that's too hard.

spice veldt
#

true

spice veldt
# zealous sierra What blessing and perks do i need

For perks, you can pick among +Carapace/+Crit Chance/+Maniac/+Unyielding. For the below results, assume that you have Warp Rider taken (which gives +10% damage at 0% peril).

  • +Carapace ensures a deterministic two-shot weakspot on Maulers with max Uncanny Strike stacks. If you have a nearly perfect 80/80/80 dmg/finesse/pen Duelling Sword (or you have a little bit of peril for Warp Rider), then a weakspot & critical weakspot will two-shot a Crusher with max Uncanny Strike stacks.
  • +Crit Chance helps with some one-shot breakpoints and the aforementioned Crusher two-shot. It is admittedly a small bonus, but it is generally applying.
  • +Maniac helps with reaching a Mutant one-shot with at least 2 Uncanny Strike stacks (or with a crit).
  • +Unyielding is for boss DPS and the like
kindred anchor
#

Sounds fake

spice veldt
#

who let you here

#

get out

terse saffron
kindred anchor
#

I accidently press psyker chatting

terse saffron
#

this duelling sword too sexy or what

#

so anyway is shred any good on this

fierce crest
spice veldt
#

yeah, I like Shred

#

though I personally rate Riposte = Precognition > Shred

#

well it depends

#

hmmmmmm

#

well point is that shred is nice

#

seems like a pretty good mk4 duelling sword

terse saffron
#

shred+...?

spice veldt
#

Uncanny Strike

terse saffron
#

i wanted to run a placeholder uncanny strike until i get something nice

#

oh ok

spice veldt
#

iz the best blessing for duelling swords

terse saffron
#

and the perks? maniac+flak?

spice veldt
#

i'd prob go +carapace

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or +unyielding

terse saffron
#

is it good enough against monstros to use +UY?

spice veldt
#

you could go for flak if you want to dab on scab ragers, but I find that to be mostly unnecessary

#

it kills a plogryn in 40-50 seconds w/o Unyielding

terse saffron
#

not really no

spice veldt
#

depending on what your ranged weapon is

terse saffron
#

voidstrike

#

covers everything but monstrosities and mutants

spice veldt
#

mk4 DS is alright against bosses I suppose

#

nothing like what zealots/ogryns have currently, but I do think that the DS has an edge

#

well

#

I haven't measured the vstrike

lofty storm
#

is there a reason to use assail if i have a well rolled voidstrike? i find myself not using it much

#

i feel like smite adds more to the kit

spice veldt
#

prob grab +carapace unless you're running monstrosity maelstrom I suppose

spice veldt
terse saffron
#

smite doesnt stagger mutants(?)

spice veldt
#

it staggers mutants

lofty storm
#

yeah that's what i was thinking

#

everyone says it really op, but i find in auric runs i don't have enough room to use assail, especially on mixed hordes etc

terse saffron
#

voidstrike staff creates just enough space for others to spam assail lol

spice veldt
#

assail is actionable 0.19s after swapping to it, so prob just a keybind issue

#

but if it's not working for you, then feel free to go for smite

lofty storm
#

but it's pretty inconsistent compared to just punching a hole through a horde

#

especially really close range

#

smite is still bad for general use, may as well kill things, but is nice in a pinch, an ally getting caught offguard by several elites you can't kill before they get blown up etc

near wyvern
plucky flax
#

That's me I'm the assail spammer.

plucky flax
lofty storm
#

it's situational, if the horde isn't on me then assail is the way

plucky flax
#

I back dodge and spam assail. Sadge

spice veldt
#

i don't run vstrike but that looks gr8

#

(I'm a quelling speed enjoyer tho so)

lofty storm
spice veldt
plucky flax
#

It's like the video.

zealous sierra
#

Can't decide what perk

plucky flax
#

Crushers? Assail. Bulwarks? Assail.

#

Anything? Just left click with assail.

zealous sierra
spice veldt
#

and trust in +15% toughness per warp kill

spice veldt
lunar hollow
#

this is the worst video ive ever watched

zealous sierra
#

Impractical

#

Bad

#

Positioning

spice veldt
#

so i made a video about that

zealous sierra
#

If they are surrounded

#

They should've had their back against a wall

spice veldt
#

true

plucky flax
#

Definitely showed why you're not top 1%.

spice veldt
#

i cri

spice veldt
plucky flax
#

It's okay assail needs a lot of skills and finesse to use.

spice veldt
#

TRUE TRUE

plucky flax
#

Frensheep ended with vet autopistol/bolter. Assail is my new best fren.

zealous sierra
#

I dunno if I wanna lock my blessings

plucky flax
#

Yeah I know everything.

#

I'm probably top 0.5% psyker.

spice veldt
plucky flax
zealous sierra
#

I trust you two more than half the new pskyers on here

#

Quote on Quote, Psyker Expert

spice veldt
#

i killed 3 men

plucky flax
#

Well what do you want to do with it? THere are 2 voidstrike builds.

#

Warp nexus + surge or warp flurry + transfer peril.

zealous sierra
#

Surge

#

funni

plucky flax
#

Then slap nexus over flurry and crit chance over weak spot damage.

#

Also pick true aim talent.

#

GG it's voidstrike spamming time.

#

You already 1 shot crusher with surge proc though so unyielding/maniac would have been better 2nd perk but honestly you only need crit chance for surge voidstrike.

nimble adder
#

Hey guys is there a blessing that allows me to block bullets and melee?

lofty storm
zealous sierra
#

On the force swords

plucky flax
#

Damn that's op what a blessing.

#

Can't believe FS buffed it.

lofty storm
plucky flax
lofty storm
#

i need to redo my UI, it all reset today for some reason

#

all my mod settings

nimble adder
#

Guess Iโ€™ll need to experiment with the psyker

#

To find the perfect build

spice veldt
plucky flax
#

Worst ui I've ever seen.

spice veldt
#

my assail ammo count is the number above the blue diamond

spice veldt
#

worst person

plucky flax
#

tru

spice veldt
#

50% toughness DR during dodges babeeeeeeee

lofty storm
#

oh really it is dodge cooldown? that's what i initially thought before assail

#

actually yeah i see what you mean

#

how do you get that dodge count setup? all i had was the standard 5/5 etc

spice veldt
#

i made my own modifications to numericUI

#

but they're kind of jank modifications

lofty storm
#

i didn't know that was a setting to show the dodge cooldown on numericUI, just dodge count

spice veldt
#

o yeah that's a modification of my own as well

lofty storm
#

is that just within the mod settings ingame?

spice veldt
#

oh wait

#

the debug

#

the debug setting shows the cooldown as a number, but there's all of this other info that I deleted

lofty storm
#

ahhh, i didn't mess with debug

#

welp, time for me to start again, ive been back to default ui after my mod settings got deleted today, time to spend an hour + redoing it all

spice veldt
#

:pensive:

#

i had some other UI stuff, but there's something with HudTweaker that makes your toughness bar flash so I had to disable it for the moment

#

what my old UI looked like

plucky flax
#

Uuh that's a veteran why you do here in my psyker channel.

spice veldt
#

no that's a peril indicator

#

it's blue

#

it's a number to the bottom-right of my crosshair

#

what else could it be but peril

plucky flax
#

Big thonk

sonic coral
#

alrright what do I do to fix this sword

plucky flax
#

Personally I'd upgrade uncanny to 4 and change unarmoured to maniac.

summer prairie
#

how much effort does it take to make the UI like that

sonic coral
#

turns out I don't have uncanny 4

#

I assume that ruins breakpoints of some kind reading back

plucky flax
#

It only means your subsequent attacks will be a tad bit weaker. Shouldn't change any break point.

sonic coral
#

and naturally I can't upgrade that when I get it at some point, AND add +carapace

#

I guess I'm alright with that. They swing pretty fast right? so

#

I guess my next question is I have no idea how to build around it

spice veldt
full bane
#

Made this in like 30 seconds, what do yโ€™all think KEKW_ogryn

dawn orchid
#

Warp charges, EP, or disrupt destiny for assail/voidstrike?

#

And a crit build on the voidstrike with surge

plucky flax
spice veldt
#

i'm too embarassed to give an estimate on the hours i've spent on my UI

#

so I shall refrain

oak herald
#

Hello psykers

sonic coral
oak herald
#

This comes from the veteran chat just for you

sonic coral
#

this is what I've done currently

summer prairie
#

Do any of the UI mods let you pull in information that the game typically doesn't show, like crit chance of whatever

plucky flax
#

Not taking combustion. staregryn

spice veldt
summer prairie
#

Though overall crit chance probably isn't even a thing unless you add everything up yourself

spice veldt
summer prairie
#

it just does a+b+c+d when you attack

sonic coral
#

I guess combustion would make sense, I guess I just always thought soul burn was weak shit

spice veldt
#

hmm so no simple summary stat for it

#

except on the modder's part

plucky flax
# sonic coral I guess combustion would make sense, I guess I just always thought soul burn was...

Watch the kill feed xd. Combination of combustion, wildfire and ascendant blaze
https://youtu.be/9e0oBfL4nqo?t=5m12s

Incredibly fun build not using the most broken things this patch (assail, voidstrike, unlimited power smite bug). The only weakness is very bad monster damage.
Patch 1.2.1
Refinery Delta-17 ยท Disruption ยท Damnation ยท Hi-Intensity Shock Troop & Mutants Gauntlet (Hunting Grounds) (Cooldowns Reduced)
Loadout: Illisi Force Sword / Surge Force Staff

โ–ถ Play video
sonic coral
#

guess I'll give combustion a go

sly forge
#

can you use mods online?

spice veldt
#

perilous combustion is easily one of the best talents

#

extremely cheap (2 nodes, and on the same route as Soulstealer lamayo)

sonic coral
#

I'm comfortable giving up empathetic evasion which honestly seems shit

#

otherwise does that build seem reasonable?

spice veldt
#

yeah if you're not running crit stuff then empathic evasion is whatevs

plucky flax
#

I wouldn't run the toughness on warp generation.

still hearth
plucky flax
#

It seems a lot weaker than souls teaser and quietude.

spice veldt
#

and doesn't work with kinetic deflection (not that you're running it)

plucky flax
#

Warp absorption is soul stealer? I can't remember these new talents.

#

Bb > br.

spice veldt
sonic coral
#

I have basically all of the peril recovery stuff selected up top

still hearth
#

Idk why they renamed talents

sonic coral
#

figured take them all if peril's gonna be going up and down all the time

#

idk

#

lol

plucky flax
spice veldt
still hearth
#

Agent pls

plucky flax
near wyvern
plucky flax
sonic coral
#

so with a sword, should I try to make it over into the disrupt destiny tree at the bottom?

spice veldt
#

disrupt destiny is the path to frustration over losing all of your stacks

sonic coral
#

ah alright

spice veldt
#

there's a bug where marked enemies do not glow for whatever reason

#

which defeats the whole point of the keystone

near wyvern
plucky flax
#

But it's funny meme.

#

Anyway people said new surge is bad.

near wyvern
#

Doing little bit forever is weaker than doing quite a lot for just enough time.

plucky flax
sonic coral
#

I guess in that case I'll keep the tree I posted above and just change empathetic evasion for perilous combustion at the end of the day

near wyvern
sonic coral
#

just trying to do something different I guess, the main builds I seem to have work properly are basically emulating the ones I've already played pre-update lol

plucky flax
#

Surge is op actually. Hope they won't nerf.

#

The new charge rate is veri kool

near wyvern
#

I wouldn't say OP but it's the sort of I choose you to die staff

#

Can only target a couple but they will be dead in a couple of seconds

summer prairie
#

It's probably going to feel bad if you don't run it with creeping flames

plucky flax
#

Not as op as blaze trauma yes.

#

Still pretty op.

near wyvern
#

But you shouldn't go smite with surge unless you go creeping flames

rugged fiber
#

Or illisi

near wyvern
#

Yeah Illisi is fine too, devils claw is just

sonic coral
#

alright I'm gonna get rid of the critical nodes, then maybe run trauma instead of surge

summer prairie
#

I don't remember what using a melee weapon as a psyker is like

#

I kind of want to do a BB + creeping flames only run

near wyvern
#

Yeah this patch did not really bring melee psyker builds. I have tried to create "melee main" builds but they just don't work as effectively as other options in that same loadout

#

Mostly because there are no specific melee related talents

near wyvern
summer prairie
#

For the most part yes, but the point is to see how much creeping flames can carry

near wyvern
#

Only useful for getting those gunners and snipers across the room

#

The problem is, you want to go into warp siphon to get the max out of creeping flames and it's extremely frustrating to try get stacks with BB

summer prairie
#

I don't care about stacks except for the cooldown benefit

near wyvern
#

That's what I am talking about

summer prairie
#

my allies get me stacks, but it's ok if I don't have them either

near wyvern
#

Miss a creeping flames and it's a pain to come back with BB, your best chance is to just wait it out and ult again better next time

#

Might as well just run around rather than try to BB

summer prairie
#

cooldown is only 21s even without any stacks

near wyvern
#

Assail would pair so much better with the setup but using Assail ATM is a bit cringe

summer prairie
#

well yeah I stopped using assail because it ruins the fun for everyone else

#

void+creeping flames is nearly same damage anyway

dense bramble
#

Is surge good for voidstrike?

exotic tulip
#

Can any of the psykers blitzes crit?

dense bramble
#

the blessing says double shot but is that a full charged shot or just the left click

lyric prism
#

Imo, empowered psionics should:

Brain bust
50% Peril reduction (from 100%)
Brainburst spreads to 4 other elites or specials withing 10m (from 50% cast time)
100% more damage (from 50%)

Smite
50% more damage (from 30%)
50% peril reduction (smite bug fixed)
50% faster spread (from 25%)

Assail
Unchanged

near wyvern
dense bramble
exotic tulip
#

That mean the crit chance blessing too

brisk agate
dense bramble
#

the blessing

rugged fiber
#

Best in slot

viscid matrix
#

Surge blessing is why Void can 1shot crushers

dense bramble
#

Oh okay Ive got it with l4 warp flurry
Should I switch out either?

#

I want the headshot quell blessing

exotic tulip
viscid matrix
#

swap flurry for warp nexus so you crit more

viscid matrix
near wyvern
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@dense bramble you go warp flurry + Surge, take Battle Mediation from the top passives, take True Aim from bottom right, go into Warp Siphon path with Inner Tranquility and Warp Battery.

As long as there are a lot of heads to shoot you will do back to back double casts and quell more than what you generate.

dense bramble
exotic tulip
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Again do any blitzes crit?

viscid matrix
dense bramble
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Thanks boys

exotic tulip
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how does surge crit, whole duration or just randomly

near wyvern
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And also @dense bramble void staggers all monstrosities on weakspot hits so you can also perma stagger and bully a monstrosities if your aim is good.

Void is way overtuned at the moment so expect nerfs on next patch.

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exotic tulip
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Same, haven't seen it but maybe if you build up a lot of crit, never had a crit bonus feat activate

dense bramble
viscid matrix
still hearth
near wyvern
still hearth
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All Psyker blitzes should be able to crit

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Yes, even Brain RAPTURE

near wyvern
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Brain Failure

cold geode
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my god lightening fucks so hard now

still hearth
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Depends on which lightning

cold geode
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staff

rugged fiber
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lmao

still hearth
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Yeah it fucks

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But then Voidstrike walks in

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With like 10 bitches at once

viscid matrix
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yeh its base damage is almost on par with void, except void cleaves and pierces

rugged fiber
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there really are 2 categories about surge:

  • the ones that say it's fricking trash
  • the ones that say it's really good and better than before
cold geode
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its way way better than before, if you can manage the peril

viscid matrix
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its good, except it cant hit weakspots and its single target

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Void should lose about 30% damage so its more balanced

rugged fiber
cold geode
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i was able to pull out 400k+ damage on my last run with it

plucky flax
still hearth
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Void should lose its fucking 12 hitmass cleave

viscid matrix
lofty temple
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wtf? you can chain EP BBs indefinitely

spice veldt
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oh right, void has 12 cleave instead of the listed 10 lamayo

lofty temple
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I just cleared out an entire room of dreg gunners

plucky flax
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Bb is op?

still hearth
whole oxide
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as long as there are elites, EP BR is pretty good

lofty temple
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They were busy with a boss

still hearth
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Tbh BR isn't bad at what it does but I just hate the way its used

lofty temple
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I fell down into the court room

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in the sewer assassination mission

still hearth
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And I don't find much time to use it because melee enemies will come hit me from behind

plucky flax
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That's when you smitr

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Smite

lofty temple
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I'm kind of pissed BB has negative synergy with Warp Charges now

lofty temple
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And lose all your extra damage from warp charges

viscid matrix
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ahh, yep that part is annoying

still hearth
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Yeah but then you get more warp charges

viscid matrix
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forgot about that node, since i dont use it

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its not actually 75%

still hearth
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Well keep in mind it's +75% faster charge

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Not -75% charge time

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Though it might still not be right

spice veldt
wispy iris
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heya does assail benefit from weapon perks and blessings?

viscid matrix
obtuse moth
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except hand-cannon for some reason lol

wispy iris
obtuse moth
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its a bug

wispy iris
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does assail fall off then?

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since staves get perks and blessings

lyric prism
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imo, smite and brain rupture should be allowed to crit

obtuse moth
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you can play damnation using just assail

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only things its not good at is carapace and montrositey

wispy iris
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I just crafted a new void staff thinking assail would benefit from it

wispy iris
thin finch
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Altough to trigger crit perk ,yeah

analog solstice
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does soulstealer (replenish 15% toughness on warp attack kill) include staff kills like the surge staff for example?

analog solstice
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alright, thx