psyker-class

[karmic copper]

Alt?

O dont remember the origin of toon usage. World of warcraft? Besides who framed roger rabit

[still hearth]

I've heard its MMO related but idk

[karmic copper]

Is that toontown? Hah

There tons of guides out or should i just click through the talent tree... or skill tree..?

Void and trauma were 90% of my time spent. Are illisi and diamos(sp) sill best melee?

[still hearth]

Duelling Sword is now competitive

Void is insane, doubly so with Surge blessing.

[karmic copper]

Surge still like double projectile on crits?

[dull osprey]

ye

[karmic copper]

Does canceling still fuck up the stacking mechanics for blessings?

Do you quickspam still or full chqrge

[supple bone]

I had no clue toon was used otherwise, I just used to play toontown, and characters were called toons is all

[karmic copper]

Never heard of toontown. I thought that might have been the actual place in roger rabit.

I saw the pinned builds. Assume thats for current. Will go check

[drowsy slate]

I have void with surge and warp nexus…. It’s redicoluse you one shot crushers in a 1/4 chance 😂

[limpid lily]

it's pretty overtuned xD

[supple bone]

It is based on that ya, it was turned into its own thing, and I think is still a place at disneyland

[karmic copper]

@drowsy slate is it ani cancel or full charge for benefits?

Void is my go to.

[still hearth]

You need to charge it

And it barely benefits from animation cancelling anymore

[plucky flax]

Just use assail.

No need to fuss with anything.

[karmic copper]

What is assail? :/

Havent been on in 6 months or so

[gusty furnace]

G ability on psyker

10 psychic daggers

they cost peril to shoot

[karmic copper]

It isnt brain pop anymore?

[tawdry oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/yondu-arrow-marvel-guardiansofthegalaxy2-ravagers-gif-14617100

[gusty furnace]

There's three G abilities now

[karmic copper]

Ah. So its more like vermintide 2 careers with the skill trees?

[rich surge]

I like the lightning ^-^

Makes me feel stronk

[gusty furnace]

this one, was too low

[gusty furnace]

No, not at all

Also, Assail is Sienna's Flaming Skull

but x10

and has a 3 second cooldown per "skull", or in this case, psychic dagger

[rich surge]

Do you need to use assail for harder content or can I get by with using lightning?

[summer prairie]

you don't need any of them for harder content and still be effective

[limber heath]

you can get by with brainburst lol. and when you have brainburst equipped you're probably not using it most of the time, so you can get by with just a sword and staff

[karmic copper]

So brain rupture is OG brain burst? They all have viability?

[gusty furnace]

No.

Its a crutch ability for low player skill.

Not something that's mandatory to succeed.

[gusty furnace]

Correct.

[limber heath]

yes, bb is viable even if its weaker than the other options. still holds its niche of picking out specials.

[gusty furnace]

Smite is the worst at the moment.

It has no damage.

Its just a worse version of old Surge staff.

[still hearth]

Assail >> Smite >> BB

[gusty furnace]

Though it DOES hold more enemies in place.

So that's neat.

[still hearth]

BB is

At least Smite you don't get tricked into wasting time with it (unless you're bad)

[raw token]

smite is definitely not worse than bb

[limber heath]

smite's effectiveness is directly proportional to how good your teammates are (in other words its not a gamble you should be willing to take in pubs). But i see a lot of psykers hwho are slow as fuck beceause they're trying to maintain their EP bug on smite which is cringe and usually gets them disabled

[still hearth]

"Wow this is a good time for me to use BB"
My entire party:
"No"

[gusty furnace]

BB is great for melee only maelstrom if you have a team that can competently hold crushers and maulers off without dying

[still hearth]

Or you

[gusty furnace]

But then why not just voidstrike

[still hearth]

Bring something

Actually good for it

Yeah

Empowered BB needs to be instant

At least

[summer prairie]

if you are running trauma, bb is ok for snipers

[still hearth]

Or do like 10x damage

[gusty furnace]

"good against carapace"

"850 damage"

"Voidstrike on a critical hit w/ 25% carapace damage: 3400 damage"

[limber heath]

BB charge time is actually quite fast after casting combat ability

[still hearth]

Or you press LMB twice at the sniper and its faster

[gusty furnace]

BB needs a massive damage buff

[still hearth]

BB needs to be

Twice as fast

And stay as it is

[gusty furnace]

So its not "good against carapace" but still gets completely outclassed by voidstrike

That's also fine.

[summer prairie]

yeah well that's not feasible all the time

[still hearth]

Maybe less peril too

But just let me SNAP people

[gusty furnace]

Its the same thing at the end of the day.

[limber heath]

but as puri just said, the damge is peepeepoopoo compared to voidstrike and probably even trauma

[gusty furnace]

More damage.

[still hearth]

I find it much less feasible to use BB most of the time personally.

[kindred anchor]

https://reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/Ut9Wa12AEu tru

[still hearth]

Any time I pull it out its like enemies immediately get faster

[gusty furnace]

BB is great in rooms full of shooters.

Its boring, but you're completely safe.

That's like. . . its one use-case.

[still hearth]

Counter argument: Assail

[gusty furnace]

That's because assail is hilariously overpowered

[still hearth]

Ye

[gusty furnace]

and is 100% going to catch the nerf bat

But yes, until then, assail.

[still hearth]

I just want BB to also be buffed

[raw token]

wouldnt really call that a use case, incredibly inefficient

[gusty furnace]

Being dead is also inefficient

and when there's 20 elite machinegunners in a room

I'd rather just wall peek with BB

even if it takes awhile

[still hearth]

The real answer is for one person to aggro

Then hide behind a wall

While the rest walks up

[limber heath]

when there's 20 elite machinegunners in a room you can bubble and kill them all with assail within 5 seconds

[covert coyote]

does "Brain rupture" not count towards the brain burst a pox hound while jumping?

[still hearth]

Because ranged enemies are idiots

[summer prairie]

I accidentally ran trauma+bb without the modifier nodes and no EP on auric maelstorm and still used it a few times

[gusty furnace]

inb4 one sniper cracks all of shields HP

and the elite machinegunners just delete everyone who forgot to keep dodging

More than once I've seen that happen

[limber heath]

just brainburst the sniper 4head

[gusty furnace]

Sniper Bug

Sometimes they don't have a laser, nor make the audio cue when firing.

Its extremely noticeable on sniper gauntlet because there's so god damn many of them.

[limber heath]

i've been hit by snipers who's laser is like 30 degrees off my position lol

[supple bone]

Snipers make me feel

[limber heath]

and yea the soundless sniper is always a classic

although i haven't seen it that often

[gusty furnace]

Yeah, its mostly something you run into on sniper gauntlet because there's approximately 1 billion snipers in those missions.

The whole population of Atoma has been turned into Moebian Snipers

[limber heath]

lately i've been fuckin incapable of hearing mutants and bursters when they get close tho, but i think thats ear issue not the game

[gusty furnace]

Mine is dogs.

They don't make the audio cue until they're already mid-air

Like its on a 2 second delay

So if I don't physically see them, whoops doggo time

[supple bone]

I find bursters lately have this ability to just not make noises

And it's annoying, just let me push you

[limber heath]

i always get confused by dogs because sometimes they stop before pouncing and then other times they move at mach 12, no hesitation.

[supple bone]

[limber heath]

also lately a lot of dogs have been dying after missing their jump, i have no idea if that's intended and i assume its a bug

[supple bone]

They die out of embarrassment

[ionic sorrel]

Have you seen those dogs, they are obviously sick and not well

[ornate hamlet]

had a dog jump right over my head and then bounce off a trashpile at mach speed, was very funny
dog might have been psyker'd in the middle

[silent chasm]

I'm bored someone pick my melee weapon for me.

Catachan Mk IV, Mk V Blaze, Chainsword, or Mk IV Dueling

[gusty furnace]

Catachan

[silent chasm]

nodnod

[digital narwhal]

[lyric burrow]

Dueling sword is funny now

Er catachan i mean

Murders hordes, parry does a billion damage

[supple bone]

it crazy

and very fun

[lyric burrow]

Raw single target isnt even that bad with dmg buffs from peril or scriers

[supple bone]

Also fairly nice hordeclear for what it is

Very good versatile weapon

[silent chasm]

I maintain the dueller should have the parry

it's a fucking dueling saber

[formal hill]

A saber isn't inherently better than any other sword for fighting irl

[supple bone]

I guess duelling doesn't have to inerently mean parrying

[silent chasm]

if I'm gonna be a fantzee schmantzee fukkar with a saber it best be able to reposte

[digital narwhal]

Even just the strikedown of the MkIV and MkVII does pretty great damage

[lyric burrow]

Yeah overhead on 4 is good

Never used 7

Its a pretty insane weapon now

[digital narwhal]

Basically 4, but inverted moveset

I prefer 4 because it opens with the overhead

[lyric burrow]

Ah ok

Yeah that seems ideal

I also like the look of 4

[silent chasm]

Oh, no, not saying that, I'm just saying when I think of a weapon that would rely on that stuff, esp in sumn as tropy as 40k, the sabre comes to mind is all.

[lyric burrow]

Although customization mod makes that irrelevant

Ill take catachan having it mostly cause the special would probably be very boring otherwise

[digital narwhal]

Man, why does the Flamer kick do one morbillion damage?

It's damage than the Mauler's side swing iirc

[supple bone]

Also fun fact, I don't know if it's with blessings or something

[lyric burrow]

The kicks with the toughness nerfs are actually threatening now lol

[supple bone]

But Devil's Claw parry can one shot crushers on headshot

[limber heath]

you win the duel if the opponent is dead thats why it has no parry. best defence yada yada

[lyric burrow]

Yeah parry should probably get toned down a little lol

[limber heath]

i'm fine with there just being 1 parry weapon in the game, especially ince the duellies are already so strong that if they could also just oneshot parry there'd be no stopping them

[supple bone]

I mean

I don't feel so

The parry window for one shotting is tight

On ragers? no

But on stuff like crushers it's fairly tight

and if you ess it up you lose all your stamina lol

[lyric burrow]

Ah if its tight then im more ok with it

[limber heath]

you also need to use a dclaw which is arguably a bit worse for horde clear and general single target than your other options like illisi/duelling.

[lyric burrow]

I thought it was a decently open window

[supple bone]

yeah, it's the difference between losing all stamina and killing something

[lyric burrow]

Dclaw is very good for horde clear now imo

[supple bone]

And losing stamina is always bad lol

Dclaw has pretty good horde clear yeah

Not as good as some of the force swords

but pretty good

[limber heath]

yea not saying it isn't good.

[lyric burrow]

Although i might prefer full hit for missing but maybe im a masochist

[limber heath]

worse != bad

but like, you are sacrificing a bit. source: i used dclaw for like 3s but haven't rolled a good one yet so it was just to try parrying

[lyric burrow]

Yeah it is a bit worse horde clear wise than illisi Although it probably should be

If parry is so strong

And illisi is top tier horde clear

[supple bone]

Well if it's a low stat oone then obviously you'll feel it

[digital narwhal]

NUH UH

[lyric burrow]

Hard to compare

That was before i knew parry windows could be tight

Maybe a slightly harder punishment for missing the parry but id need to play with it more

[supple bone]

if oyu lsoe all your stamina you get stunlocked for am oment in the lost stamina animation

So that's already pretty punishing to me

[limber heath]

With crusher parry it's also that the penalty for fucking up is death

[supple bone]

Give me parry or turn me into paste

[lyric burrow]

Yeah thats fair, i might prefer just taking the full hit for missing but losing all stamina is fine enough probs

[supple bone]

I think taking the full hit for missing the timing is a bit too punishing lol

it's still a parry timer thing

If that was the cost I think parry against crusher wouldn't be worth it

[limber heath]

I do want a good dclaw though although I think I'd want it on my zealot instead of psyk

[lyric burrow]

Its v good on zealot

In my exp

[supple bone]

Making it slightly forgiving means that it's worth using to me

[lyric burrow]

Yeah it might just be me hating myself and wanting the game to kill me for every mistake

It is probably a little too much lol

[supple bone]

That's me

i run knife and laspistol veteran with Voice of Command

And I play auric missions

I am that person

I also only run 2 wounds lol

[lyric burrow]

Yeah ive run 2 wounds forever

[late yew]

VET PLAYER IN OUT CHAT

LAUGHT AT HIM

[lyric burrow]

Wounds not worth to me

[late yew]

POINT AT HIM

[lyric burrow]

Vets ok now imo now that its not point and click adventure where your invincible

[supple bone]

I play full support vet

So I couldn't care less

[lyric burrow]

Honestly assail has become new vet to me

Void too

[supple bone]

I didn't play vet before the update

So I'm not someone who abused the broken stuff lol

i specifically paly vet to use the revive shout because it's fun

[lyric burrow]

It was hard not to abuse

[supple bone]

It was

[lyric burrow]

Youd have to never press F

[supple bone]

But I didn't care for it

Was my least played class

I played only enough missions to hit 30

and then dropped vet

Was a psyker main before

But I'm not as much of a fan of the psyker changes nowadays

[lyric burrow]

I enjoyed plasma gun a lot

[supple bone]

My freidn did too

He's sad it kinda sucks now

[acoustic spade]

wdym, running Assail-Shield was the first time during this patch I overperilla'd myself

[late yew]

Assail just needs shards regen nerf

and it will be fine

[supple bone]

shards and maybe amount, aside from that I think it would be fine

I just want more of my teammates to be able to play the game lol

I appreciate seeing smite psykers more, i like supportp laystyles

Too bad they murder my PC

[gusty furnace]

Vet: Regenerates a grenade once every 60 seconds

Ogryn: Regenerates a rock once every 60 seconds

Zealot: Knives regenerate on special/elite kill but they only hit and kill one enemy per knife

Psyker: Gets 10 knives and regenerates one every 3 seconds

HMMMMMMM

[supple bone]

Rockgryn

[gusty furnace]

That regeneration timer for knives could be bumped to 10 seconds per

[late yew]

weird bug happened

[lyric burrow]

Talking about old vet

[late yew]

I had talents from one loadout, but weapons from another

[gusty furnace]

And the total amount of knives peskeeker gets lowered

[supple bone]

yes

lower regen rate and knife count and then it'll be golden, still strong, but not as spammy

[late yew]

don't need to nerf both

[acoustic spade]

Right, well I basically never use F on current Vet either, cause I only run the oh-shit buttons of voice or stealth

[lyric burrow]

I havent had smite melt my pc yet

Maybe they dont hold it long enough

[acoustic spade]

So I thought you were talking about peril vent f and not needing to do it with Assail

[supple bone]

my PC is doodoo water

It can run darktide mostly ok

But smite makes me hit 4 fps lol

[lyric burrow]

Ah rip

At least it runs

[supple bone]

Yeah

[acoustic spade]

oh yeah, had a newbie psyker that had apparently just gotten smite with me in a mission while I was levelling Ogryn

And someone woke the Daemonhost

They started smiting it

somehow didnt aggro

[formal hill]

You have a pretty big grace period to stop hitting a DH

[round ginkgo]

Pretty new at the game, are these Blessings any good?

[acoustic spade]

no like, It was already fully floating when the psyker did it

[formal hill]

Yes

[acoustic spade]

had been awake for atleast 20-30secs

[formal hill]

Yes

It's a dmg threshold

[supple bone]

when smite does negative damage

[karmic copper]

So for void surge youre aiming for mostly crit everything ya? Full charging staff shits, peril refund on crit....?

[acoustic spade]

Oh I thought it was just any dmg cause I've accidentally woken one up with just Soulblaze before

[karmic copper]

Carapace and crit on staff with crit crit crit?

[bleak tulip]

flak not cara

crit is nice yeah, don't have to fully charge shots unless you're shooting a fatty

[jovial quail]

Is there a way to stack soulblaze like crazy like pre talent tree rework?

[bleak tulip]

take all the spulblaze things?

it's still good

and even more accessible

[dawn wolf]

Crits apply 2 stacks, that's your best bet I think

[bleak tulip]

unless you mean something specific

[still hearth]

Never take Wildfire

[jovial quail]

Mostly with the scream, was used to stacking x6 then screaming and everything melting lol

[still hearth]

That's

Literally the same now

[bleak tulip]

well it's still 6 on max peril

[still hearth]

But easier

[acoustic spade]

The Warp Siphon modifier that has 10% chance to give you stacks if you kill soulblazed enemy is somehow broken with battle meditation

I spent over 30minutes one night in Psykhanium putting people on fire with shout and then killing them with surge staff, and battle meditation didnt proc even once

[still hearth]

Just don't run battle meditation ez

[acoustic spade]

it was easier to run the 4% chance for allies in coherency instead

[brave fiber]

It might be kill an enemy WITH soul blaze not kill an enemy that has soul blaze

I’ve been using it with purge staff and it’s been working well for me, so idk

[bleak tulip]

psyk isn't a perfect representation of the game, some things don't work there and vice versa

[acoustic spade]

No but, Thats the part that works. I get the Warp Charges, but dont get the quell from Battle Meditation

[bleak tulip]

especially this interaction has been odd in the past

[brave fiber]

super weird

[teal needle]

Most of the soulblaze stuff is pretty wonky in mission too, besides combustion and purg staff and the blaze blessing

[brave fiber]

which is unfortunate bc I love soulblaze builds

purgatus my beloved

[near wyvern]

This is incorrect. It totally triggers from killing an enemy with soulblaze, don't have to last hit it with the blaze.

[summer prairie]

DD seems to have the same mechanic or something close to it

[brave fiber]

‘twas just a theory, a lot of stuff in the game is confusing

[near wyvern]

Oh BTW I confirmed, empowered Assail doubles the amount of enemies it can potentially hit

Should just add it to Atheneum

[acoustic spade]

My best guess is that they somehow use the same RNG-chance generator, and because both are 10%, the game has rolling numbers for it in the background(something like generating it from server time/session total tick-count, but they cant use the same rng result.
As an example, say game says "10% thing procs when running number from 1-10 is checked and the result is 10"
The Soulblaze Warp Charge talent gets checked first (for whatever reason) and it rolls a 10, so it procs.
Battle Meditation procs at the same time, but it gets the next number in line, which would be 1, so it doesnt proc.

That doesnt fully explain how Battle meditation never managed to proc in my testing, but something akin to that might be going on

[summer prairie]

it wasn't consistently double for me, maybe something to do with stagger lowering the mass

[near wyvern]

And still check if it does that without the +1 target increase

[summer prairie]

or it just runs out of flight time

[near wyvern]

Hitting carapace destroys the projectile and the targeting is a bit weird, you need to paint those targets approximately with your crosshair for it to work and also you must hold Assail hands active for the homing to activate

[still hearth]

There used to be issues with some talents occupying other talents/auras so it could be that

[near wyvern]

Just holding your aim still in a pack doesn't always result in many hits, you gotta wiggle wiggle wiggle it

[teal needle]

Good thing my view is always shaking like a withdrawal patient

[acoustic spade]

on permanent withdrawals, never deposits

thats why we poor

[timid fractal]

Can venting shriek save you from self-downing if you went over 100% peril

[jaunty moth]

yes

[timid fractal]

Nice

[jaunty moth]

there is pennances for doing it

[astral oracle]

do it 50 times

[languid osprey]

idk what blessings should i put on the illisi other than deflector

[stable leaf]

Slaughterer

[languid osprey]

k thx

[near wyvern]

Battle Meditation can as well but you better believe you are blessed by Emperor if you count on that.

[near wyvern]

Uncanny Strike + Slaughterer is the new BiS

[summer prairie]

works ok with purg since you can full charge at 100 and then use the whole charge to fish for the proc

[nocturne copper]

witch dueling sword is better?
atm

[still hearth]

The stabby one

[strong gulch]

All of them have been buffed, but mk IV has gone over the top with the heavies.

SO mk IV

[jovial quail]

Realistically would assail + voidstrike be a super optimal coverage due to assail just having great general ad clear/special/elites and then void for long range elites and absolutely melting carapaces?

[still hearth]

Yes

That's literally the go-to right now

[jovial quail]

Plus running shriek you can use assail to get to max peril super fast as well for max damage

kk gotcha, been trying to make purge work as it was my main weapon the entirity pre rework but now it just seems like a no brainer to have complete control over all pros without the weaknesses prior

[still hearth]

I still run Purgatus as my main choice but I do often pair it with assail anyway

And just deal with crushers using my melee

[jovial quail]

Yeah I just found myself when running assail that I rarely go to utilize purg with hordes seemingly to be alot smaller now

but more consistently spawning? if that makes sense

Still debating between empowered psionics vs warp siphon though, like I get the appeal to empowered for the free assail but you have 10 anyways and the empowered damage versus shriek back significantly faster along with more void damage... idk

[clear heath]

the way my builds work out, if i'm going with voidstrike, i go empowered psyionics so i have enough points leftover for crit nodes like true aim

for my surge staff build, i have warp siphon instead cause true aim barely even works on it. can't headshot with lightning lol

[plucky flax]

That's op pls nerf

[clear heath]

how much do you guys think they will end up nerfing assail?

this shit recharges so fast

i have never taken then 30% faster charging because i've never needed it

[jovial quail]

Honestly recharge rate should be about all that realistically needs to be touched. It'd get rid of alot of the complaints of people just nonstop using it on lower difficulties while still being useful for higher

[kind jay]

i didn't think to make a build for it, this was a modified version of a scrier build i was using for void. I'm actually thinking of grabbing all the cdr stuff on the left and seeing how long i can just unga bunga stabby.

[ebon jolt]

The left click could also generate a tad more peril.

[final bay]

So while we're talking about how bullshit it is, what's the best Assail build looking like? Scriers worthwhile? Axe to keep up True Aim? Crit worth focusing for?

Malefic Momentum worthwhile? I'm going back and forth on it

[timid fractal]

What would be the best sort of weapon combo with brain rupture to cover most bases? I would use assail but I've experienced how annoying it is to be on the other side and dont want to run it the entire time
*While still levelling to 30

[harsh urchin]

if you're leveling, duel4/deimos + purg with BB might feel good

[timid fractal]

Sorry, could you expand those abbreviations 😅
Dueling sword 4 I think? But not sure what deimos is. purg Purgatus staff, got that one

[austere burrow]

deimos = deimos force sword

i think it's also mk4

but the force swords have unique names, so people usually just use the names instead of saying force sword mk2 or whatever

[timid fractal]

Right, thank you, that clears that up

I'll give that a try

[austere burrow]

the main combo people use with it is L1H2 because it's a double poke with high damage

kills things fast

[timid fractal]

And when would you activate? just for healthier enemies?

[lofty temple]

Muties

Are Inner Tranquility builds dead?

[ornate hamlet]

Which build was inner tranq? What did that perk do?

[ornate hamlet]

I use it.

In fact...

[lofty temple]

I ask if it's dead because...

Your next Combat Ability spends all available Warp Charges

[austere burrow]

inner tranquility is still nice for trauma staff

[thin finch]

it's not dead but it's clearly less cool

[ornate hamlet]

This is how I use it. https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a58a767-419c-460a-93b6-f97a1bb6a4ba/voidborne-pyrophobia

[lofty temple]

They really made quicken be built-in to the warp charges

[austere burrow]

ult burning all your charges doesnt really matter for that tbh

at high difficulties, you get all your charges back if you're in a horde

because of the mob density lol

[clear heath]

also if it's for shriek, there's that talent under it that gives you peril reduction anyways

[austere burrow]

yeah

[ornate hamlet]

You dont even need it really. It's more of a preference.

[clear heath]

so you'll have peril reduction basically all of the time

[teal needle]

Yeah i haven't really found mandatory quicken to be much of a problem. I lose the damage buff for just a few seconds

[ornate hamlet]

You can go with peril reduction or nearly constant toughness regen.

[austere burrow]

you build like 0 peril when you have shout buff

it's hilarious

[teal needle]

Id like the option to not spend a talent point mostly

[lofty temple]

I use shield

[teal needle]

I also am pretty addicted to shield, it's so stronk

[near wyvern]

There is. Just don't use talents.

[clear heath]

i had a high int shocktroop game with a teammate who had the special stun shield

it was pretty good

[austere burrow]

i like that both shields are good

actual choice

i like having the dome panic button, but i could see wall being good if you have better positioning

to trivialise big specialist rushes

[near wyvern]

Yeah the special stun shield is really nice, but they need to:

• remove the shield visual as soon as the shield is destroyed
• give different specials different damage values to the shield

If you shield up during hunting grounds it's just two mini dawgs and it's gone

[austere burrow]

wait really

lmao

[summer prairie]

it has 15 hp and all specials do 8 damage to it when passing

[austere burrow]

the visual glitch is annoying yeah

[teal needle]

"Better postioning" = throw it down right in front of me and stand in it to become immune to dogs and muties

[near wyvern]

Also on an other note, perilous combustion during hunting grounds is just

[austere burrow]

i mean better positioning so you're less reliant on having dome as a panic button

lmao

[clear heath]

dome is still nice for the toughness things

[teal needle]

Oh yeah. I rarely find myself getting shot from more than one direction

[near wyvern]

Also you can use it as on demand mutant deny and free a player who got grabbed

[austere burrow]

the toughness regen really comes in clutch

[near wyvern]

So if you don't need to, don't place it in advance

[clear heath]

i've still mainly been running shriek because i like screaming fire at enemies

[teal needle]

Has anyone even given damage shriek a chance? I know i haven't

[austere burrow]

the number is so low

there's no way it's good right

[clear heath]

is it actually just 200 damage?

there's no way

that would be horrible

[teal needle]

I mean assail says 100 damage and does 250 instead

There's warp damage multipliers?

I'm purely coping here

[clear heath]

i have to assume the description is lying or fatshark is just delusional

[raw token]

no it barely even reaches 200

thats at max peril, even then it doesnt reach 200

[clear heath]

lmao

[near wyvern]

I tested in psych and realized that:

• minimum mob HP is 300
• the direct damage is 200 at best when at high peril
• the direct damage has a dramatic fall off with respect to the distance

And never touched that shit ever again

[clear heath]

does adding a small amount of damage to shriek add any sort of utility or anything?
Does it break corrupter balls?

[raw token]

its just terrible

[kindred anchor]

Its good thi

For team support

So they can kill horde easier

[lofty temple]

For 1 talent point, you could have a 2000 damage over a few seconds or... 200 damage right now

[near wyvern]

Why not just blaze?

[raw token]

/s?

[near wyvern]

Which like kills things on its own...

[kind jay]

soulblaze shriek is a horde killer. the other is waste of point

[thick carbon]

you know, I just realized something. I have no idea what Enhanced Blitz does for BB

[lofty temple]

Kinetic Barrage effect

Oh wait

You mean the modifier?

Jack shit, like before

[thick carbon]

rip

[vestal cargo]

What should be changed on this staff?

[clear heath]

does the modifier do anything to assail?

[thick carbon]

surge

[clear heath]

i didn't notice a difference with that maelstrom modifier on

[thick carbon]

makes it even more annoying probably

[lofty temple]

Enhanced Blitz grants more grenades, it might give you a few more shards

[clear heath]

no i was still capped at 10

and recharge felt the same, although i didn't time it

maybe it did more damage? i couldn't tell

[teal needle]

Surge currently bugged on trauma. I say currently but i mean it always has been and always will be cuz the shark don't care

[raw token]

idk if its a bug

[near wyvern]

Check Atheneum, already tested and listed that

[clear heath]

idk why they even put surge as a possible blessing for trauma if they weren't gonna bother making it work

they should put surge on surge staff

[teal needle]

Feels like it doing a different thing on vs and trauma would be a bug

[vestal cargo]

Would rending shockwave be a good swap for surge?

[near wyvern]

Where is blazing spirit for surge staff

[teal needle]

Yes

[clear heath]

crit staff doesn't get on-crit blessings

sadge

[near wyvern]

Surge & Transfer Peril are ass on Trauma

[raw token]

or they just dont want it to do two explosions, it still works on the primary fire

[thick carbon]

youtube or something?

[clear heath]

if they didn't want trauma to do a double explosion, they shouldn't have made it a possible blessing for it

[teal needle]

On vs it works on secondary fire

[raw token]

yeah its dumb but im sure it wouldve been addressed by now if it was unintended

[teal needle]

Agree. Also applies to barrage blessings on voidstrike

[near wyvern]

Pinned messages here, first one

[raw token]

its a very obvious thing

[near wyvern]

Correction, second one

Sister Pearl Clutcher took my spot

[thick carbon]

oh. I'd meant the mission modifier, but that's a pretty good resource nonetheless. thank you :)

[near wyvern]

AHH right

@thick carbon the mission modifier used to lower the peril cost before the update so probably it will do that still

[jovial quail]

Can i make multiple level 30 psykers for the requisitorium weapons?

[raw token]

yes

[jovial quail]

Dope, mind as well since I just wasted like 3mil and a bunch of resources to end up with nothing lol

and main has had nothing but guns/axes for the last few days since i came back

[austere burrow]

pls roll good

[raw token]

what did you get for the second blessing

[austere burrow]

not enough plasteel

[raw token]

lol

[austere burrow]

this is kinda salvageable if it rolls something good though

[harsh urchin]

not really lol

it already rolled 3 bad lines

[austere burrow]

if i can change that pox damage to 25% unyielding it's good enough

[raw token]

id just upgrade in hopes for a good t4 to earn it

cause really youd want 80% ammo i feel like

[austere burrow]

what would you dump

stability?

[raw token]

mobility

[teal needle]

Mobility is the dump stat like 80% of the time

[raw token]

most of the time with the vraks u bring it out to shoot while adsing and quickly go back to melee

[misty aspen]

What do with this one? Don't have anything better and I'm broke, so this will have to do for a while

[raw token]

not bad

rip blast radius

[misty aspen]

First one i crafted

[austere burrow]

does stability reduce recoil more than mobility does?

[misty aspen]

Yeah, but I gotta start with something :<

[raw token]

would assume so

[raw token]

yeah very good start even just to get surge

[misty aspen]

Dunno what I should change tho

[austere burrow]

i'm not sure how to interpret the moving recoil numbers when both stats have it lol

[shell torrent]

Didn't someone say blast radius doesn't do damage anyway

[austere burrow]

i assumed that mobility would reduce moving recoil more because the number is higher

[raw token]

upgrade warp nexus and change weakspot to crit chance

[raw token]

you barely need to move when you shoot

[misty aspen]

I think someone mentioned it's the worst stat on it but I'm clueless

[teal needle]

That's good honestly. Replace weak spot damage with crit chance. You can replace the other perk with unyielding or honestly it's okay as is and upgrade warp nexus

I am on team blast radius is poopy

[raw token]

it doesnt affect damage but it does increase cc and allow more innacuracy when aiming

[tropic geyser]

Is there any reason to save the last modification on this? should I just bump the crit chance to 5%? Seems so small for a mod

[teal needle]

Doesn't affect the bowling ball size as far as I'm aware. All it might do is stagger slightly more

[raw token]

it does by a lot

[safe monolith]

damn, everybody talking about crit rate, i just stun them all with smite and light them on fire with purgatus...

[tropic geyser]

not a fan of purgatus at all

[safe monolith]

i mean, its DOT

[tropic geyser]

idk what you do for range with purgatus and smite

[safe monolith]

so i just keep them from moving with smite, and they cant do anything

brainburster

oh

[tropic geyser]

that is smite slot

[safe monolith]

i see what you mean

i have three teammates

[tropic geyser]

lol! if thats what u wanna do, live it up

im not about tht life lol

[safe monolith]

if im killing literally everything within a 25-30 meter radius, they better deal with the stuff outside of that, you know?

[misty aspen]

I don't have Warp 4, do i just plot unyielding on it or should I wait?

[tropic geyser]

but its not that simple and your DOT doesnt kill that fast?

[safe monolith]

my staff does

[misty aspen]

very sad

[tropic geyser]

so you really arent making it that easy for them like you think

[teal needle]

Eh i say unyielding personally

[gaunt bluff]

very dumb question but fatshark's wording is fuckin weird

[raw token]

just wait and make weakspot damage crit chance

[safe monolith]

very high damage and very high burn

[gaunt bluff]

this makes me do more right? not take more?

[safe monolith]

do more, yeah

[gaunt bluff]

ok ty

[safe monolith]

even with your melee

[misty aspen]

What's the increase from warp 3 to warp 4

[gaunt bluff]

woohoo

[safe monolith]

thats what the "all sources" is about

[raw token]

20% max

[gaunt bluff]

yeah it just sounded like higher peril = more damage taken, that "from all" is really messing up the whole thing

[safe monolith]

poorly worded

[gaunt bluff]

fatshark special

[safe monolith]

they need a suggestion box

[gritty tapir]

Yeah, its badly worded, but is it as badly worded as the base Psykintetic's Wrath description?

it could always be worse.

[safe monolith]

why does it feel like every time i play psyker i have one or two other psyker's on my team but when i play any other class, there are never any psykers to deal with hordes?

[gaunt bluff]

fire frenzy description goes crazy also

[gritty tapir]

Smite needs a damage buff, either a buildup over time or on the release portion. BB is still way too clunky to feel fun, and Assail is.... Assail.

[woeful patio]

I’d argue smite doesn’t need damage but less peril generation

[safe monolith]

smite makes enemies take an extra 10% damage,

even with armor

pretty nice

[gritty tapir]

Feels like Blitz wise we're pidgeon holed into 'kill hordes', 'CC bot', or 'thanks for highlighting the specials head!'

[woeful patio]

It’s utility, not for DPS

[safe monolith]

yeah

[frank moat]

Smite feels awful if you aren’t abusing Empower

[ornate hamlet]

Assail just isn't fun imo

[gritty tapir]

Agreed, but the damage is awful damage wise too.

[safe monolith]

its the mass stun and knockdown thats useful, not the dps

[gritty tapir]

It should do SOME damage (more than an entire peril bar to kill a normal enemy. maybe).

[shell torrent]

Assuming it feels like targeting the right thing

[warped meadow]

It's satisfying, but so damned brainless, yeah. After the novelty of hahaha heads go slice slice it's like oh boy

[safe monolith]

my only issue with smite is accidentally chaining to sleeping daemonhosts

[ornate hamlet]

Even when you're not the assail psyker everything's already dead

Where's the challenge?

[gritty tapir]

Assail prioritizes your mouse cursor as far as I can tell. I haven't touched BB, thankfully my Psyker was already 10 before the update.

[safe monolith]

the challenge is level 5 high intensity shock troop gauntlet

[ornate hamlet]

At the very least it should be granting a tagging system or act as some sort of placeable temporary sentry

[warped meadow]

I'm hoping it gets a nerf. The only "challenge" with psyker now is managing your peril but as long as you have 5 functioning brain cells that's too easy for the sheer damage output the psyker gets now

[shell torrent]

Rupture seems to just target random things around the crosshair never directly in the middle

[modest solstice]

i just want Assail to be more thrown dagger and less randomness until it hits the first enemy

[gritty tapir]

Assail is powerful, but it doesn't need to be NUKED. Smite and BB need to be brought up to par and it needs a slight tweak.

[ornate hamlet]

Assail honestly just needs a rework

[warped meadow]

I guess it doesn't need a nerf as much as a tweak to make it so it takes a little more skill other than look in general direction and everything dies

[gritty tapir]

Assail is fine, it just does too much too easily. If it was specifically horde clear

It already follows the mouse cursor, just make it more specific to that.

[modest solstice]

assail is fine, it just needs the cooldown perk removed, or less ammo cap, like 5

[ornate hamlet]

You can easily take down like any elite or specialist with it

[safe monolith]

does anyone use scrier's gaze?

ive only seen shriek and shield used

[warped meadow]

yeah, I think that'd be good. 5 shards would be enough to still do it's job but not be your primary weapon

[ornate hamlet]

I do with dueling sword/revolver psyker

[gritty tapir]

Eh, FS will do it all. 5 cap, double peril, double CD, etc. It's usually the way they roll. (j/k, mostly)

[safe monolith]

nice

[gritty tapir]

I just hope they do more with the other options that fixing the Smite bug.

[safe monolith]

whats the smite bug?

[gritty tapir]

Empowered Smite.

[safe monolith]

knocking mutants through the ground?

thats happened several times to me

[limber heath]

mechanically assail is fine imo (i.e. damage per shard, aside from maybe its anti flak performance, and the tracking) it just needs to not be possible to use it for the entire mission without swapping for more than 5s. like you should use it for a pack of elites and then have to wait a bit, not use it for 15 packs of elites in a row and then an entire horde

[safe monolith]

needs a cd

[frank moat]

Smite generates no peril if you have a single stack of Empowered Psionics

[safe monolith]

oh.

[gritty tapir]

If it had a CD it would need far more chaining.

[gaunt bluff]

REAL SHIT?

[frank moat]

Yea

[woeful patio]

Pretty sure that’s a bug

[ornate hamlet]

Real

[gritty tapir]

3 targers per Assail is NOT worth it with a CD

[frank moat]

Indefinite duration

[gaunt bluff]

thank u >;)

it aint a glitch if it's for the emperor

[gritty tapir]

It slows you to a crawl. Dodge helps, but you're basically an escort NPC.

[frank moat]

Yea absolutely a bug

[gaunt bluff]

thats fine

[ornate hamlet]

Could be good if you need a thing dead right that second

[gaunt bluff]

i love smite anyway

so more smite is good for business

[gritty tapir]

Its a bug. They included the -100% peril on it.

[frank moat]

Speaking of, what’s the point of the standard left click on Smite btw

[woeful patio]

Without, I’d say it needs a peril gen decrease. Otherwise it’s still fantastic

[gaunt bluff]

quick stun

poxbursters, mutants, etc.

[gritty tapir]

No, with a CD Assail would be trash, unless the CD was so low it was irrelevant.

[limber heath]

i don't think anyone's saying you should only get 1 assail, because 1 assail won't kill.... well anything except shooters/horde on damnation. they're saying the CD should actually be meaningful unlike what it is right now

[safe monolith]

focused channeling and warp flurry on this bad boy

[gritty tapir]

Its only so good atm due to the stacking things. Damage, chaining, autoaim, and the Empowered talents.

[ornate hamlet]

It can already nuke an entire room as is

[limber heath]

you do not need empowered for assail to be good either

[frank moat]

Would it seriously stun a mutie? I thought even the full charged Smite takes a few ticks to stop them

[gritty tapir]

I'm not saying it can't.

[woeful patio]

“Problem” with assail isn’t damage but uptime, I think increasing the cooldown on the blades by 50% would be fine

[safe monolith]

lmb, never rmb with smite

[gritty tapir]

I'm saying a CD that is more than a second or so would basically neuter it entirely.

[limber heath]

it works fine with warp charges. and well disrupt destiny i haven't used because its shit.

[ornate hamlet]

Takes a few ticks in my experience

[gritty tapir]

Having it work as it is but less regularly would be fine.

[safe monolith]

cd of three or four seconds after expending all shards

[woeful patio]

I’ve tried quicksmite and it doesn’t stub mutants in damnation, charge or bust

[olive ember]

Are we talking about how totally op assail is and how it should be nerfed into ground again

[gritty tapir]

More CD. Add talents so Psykers have to swap off to regen them faster.

[safe monolith]

keep holding

[woeful patio]

Thankfully no

[gritty tapir]

That seems like a 'well, I won't expend them all then'.

[limber heath]

fuck it just make it so they only regen when you have something else out

[gritty tapir]

Could work.

[safe monolith]

make them not regenerate until all spent

[ornate hamlet]

Doesn't fix the problem. You'd clear a room, swap to another weapon, then repeat the process

[gritty tapir]

So you're FORCED to spam them all. That is... Not good gameplay.

[safe monolith]

sure it is

[gritty tapir]

Mechanically I agree, the solutions here just aren't good.

[safe monolith]

thats how i use it anyway

fire and forget

[woeful patio]

BB is still the special killer, Smite is for stunning specials or groups(+10% damage) and Assail exists.

[frank moat]

Okay yea testing it out in Psykanium, even mashing the quick Smite zap doesn’t effect muties

[woeful patio]

Why would I use assail when I have a Purgatus

[gritty tapir]

BB is good with the autocast talent. I think the CD is a bit too long though.

[modest solstice]

what about making assail a charged skill (needs to be charged like smite right click or brainburst), but removing the ammo limit, and allow it to chain more times based off the charge level

[safe monolith]

HOLD IT

[frank moat]

Yea I know dog

[safe monolith]

keep a beam on them

[woeful patio]

IF YOU NEED TO HOLD IT WHY WOULDNT YOU JUST CHARGE

[safe monolith]

charging ends

[gritty tapir]

It doesn't affect them during the start of their charge, they're stunned after that.

[safe monolith]

holding doesnt

[frank moat]

Ohhhh wait

You meant you can hold LMB to get into a charge

[safe monolith]

the charge up of the smite, not the charge of the mutant

[frank moat]

My b

[gritty tapir]

It just needs more talents that aren't boring % increased to CD speed.

[safe monolith]

hold lmb the whole time

[woeful patio]

Smite charge doesn’t end

That’s the Surge staff

[safe monolith]

the rmb does

[gritty tapir]

'Kills with none warp weapons increased cooldown' and an otpion for kills with other warp weapons do something else.

[woeful patio]

Are we playing the same game???

[limber heath]

sometimes i wonder

[safe monolith]

idk at this point...

[azure karma]

Purge feels bad that's why

[safe monolith]

when i rmb with smite, it stops firing after a second

its just a burst

[limber heath]

force sword users when the when they

[ornate hamlet]

Wait you're telling me this isn't OSU??? /j

[woeful patio]

Mine goes full palpatine and just shocks until I hit 100% peril

[safe monolith]

thats the lmb

[woeful patio]

Unless I abuse bug

That’s RMB

Bro

On god

[safe monolith]

but my smite cannot overperil me

[woeful patio]

Buddha and Vishnu

[safe monolith]

lmb never ends

[woeful patio]

RMB doesn’t either

[safe monolith]

it do

[woeful patio]

You cut it by letting go

[safe monolith]

i dont

[gritty tapir]

It could be balanced any way. Just nuking it numbers wise will be hard to find a good balance point, especially with all the rage from mains of other classes.

[ornate hamlet]

[safe monolith]

you know

[modest solstice]

assail balance, remove its ammo cap....you can throw it with left click and it targets a single enemy relentlessly, or if you charge it (with the right click), it can target additional enemies based off the charge

[woeful patio]

Mashallah my shoe shall meet your skull

[safe monolith]

ive noticed that my rmb seems a little broken in some other games

it could just be cutting out

[ornate hamlet]

That's why I'm saying it needs to be reworked altogether

[safe monolith]

im suddenly aware

[gritty tapir]

You could easily fix it without a full rework though. The issue is less its effect and more how regularly you can use it.

[limber heath]

imma be real, I highly doubt they are going to mechanically rework assail in terms of its targeting. feel like it'll just be numbers tuning because that's less work for the same result

[woeful patio]

I love the idea of assail but I don’t think it has a dedicated “role” other than throw and go

[gritty tapir]

Then again, I personally think the power fantasy for a MAGE would be to use spells / magic staffs for the entire run.

That doesn't fit with DTs balance meta though.

[woeful patio]

I’d love to see them have associated perks like adding burn or something and getting rid of the CD node altogether

[safe monolith]

they actually introduced a mana cost so you cant do that, in basically every mage fantasy game ever made

[ornate hamlet]

Honestly I could see it being a deployable sentry that attacks whatever gets close to it

[woeful patio]

Nuh uh

[safe monolith]

like thats the POINT of a mage

[ornate hamlet]

Area denial, bam

[frank moat]

Just let us craft mana potions in advance

[gritty tapir]

Not most. Its there, but many of them either have ways to ignore it or spells that either don't cost mana or regen it.

[safe monolith]

massive single damage output with long cooldown between

[ornate hamlet]

You just explained brain burst

[gritty tapir]

That is the point of SOME mage fantasies, sure.

[ornate hamlet]

With extra steps

[gritty tapir]

^

[safe monolith]

yeah dude, i just explained ALL MAGE BUILDS EVER

[frank moat]

You know what I haven’t seen anyone talk about buffing

[safe monolith]

thats true

[gritty tapir]

looks at most mages in RPGs Okay. Sure. 😛

[frank moat]

That useless tiny wall shield

[safe monolith]

but more of a zealot role, id say

[gritty tapir]

Its all good. I get your point.

[safe monolith]

like a support cleric

[gritty tapir]

Just disagree.

Yeah. The Zealot buff is a cool thing.

[safe monolith]

corruption removal is great

veteran has an upgrade that lets medpacks remove corruption, too, which is also useful

[gritty tapir]

Smite node to use it on friendlies to power them up when?

[safe monolith]

but we dont get SHIT

lol

TF2 medic time

[ornate hamlet]

Seeing how psykers are more involved with the warp than the other classes

Imo it makes sense they don't really have a way to remove corruption

[gritty tapir]

Brain Burst the Ogryn.

[safe monolith]

i wonder, if i jump over into the ogryn channel, will everything be in caveman grunts or speeled wrong?

[gritty tapir]

Sah!

[ornate hamlet]

Maybe

[limber heath]

ehh wall shield is fine it just serves a different purpose than bubble. problem is room temperature IQ on players means nobody will play around it so it seems shittier than the big obvious bubble. I'll agree it could use a buff provided bubble doesn't see a nerf.

[ornate hamlet]

Should we all just raid the Ogryn channel?

[safe monolith]

no brain, no pain

[gritty tapir]

Thing is though, most classes are pretty powerful right now.

[ornate hamlet]

Yes

[gritty tapir]

I'd prefer slight nerfs along with buffs to the lagging options.

[safe monolith]

so balance.

[gritty tapir]

Yes. I say this because many suggestions are over nerfs compared to what would actally be needed.

[safe monolith]

yeah

[hollow jolt]

Assail double regen and peril cost reduct pls

[languid osprey]

Better off giving only 2 shards of assail every 60secs like the ogryn rock

[gritty tapir]

And FS has a habit of bringing stuff down rather than pulling up those that are behind.

[safe monolith]

,':\

[autumn moth]

make it taller so it catches bomber grenades easily and make my teammates better so they stop needing free toughness regen and a 360 degree gun negation bubble

[dim parrot]

or just buff everything else, so everything is powerful!

[ornate hamlet]

Meanwhile in #ogryn-class

[safe monolith]

MY GOD

[hollow jolt]

At least this patch seems fine for the other classes

[safe monolith]

i was expecting that, but still

[gritty tapir]

See.

Why don't we have.

Assail good.

[ornate hamlet]

Because assail bad

[safe monolith]

because we arent neanderthals?

[hollow jolt]

Assail bad

[gritty tapir]

Assail balanced.

[woeful patio]

Tempted to go into #zealot-class just so I can see the smut

[languid osprey]

Assail is in the name

[ornate hamlet]

Nice joke

[austere burrow]

zealot support ult is making me consider levelling a zealot

[frank moat]

Replace assail with rock

[ornate hamlet]

Don't give up your day job tho

[gritty tapir]

Assail is just a pointy rock.

[languid osprey]

Pasive BB

[kind jay]

assail kills should explode like frag bomb. every single kill

[safe monolith]

assail is fairly balanced, id say its my prefered pick, but i often dont use it because i dont want two assail psykers in one game, so i pick smite for the utility

[languid osprey]

Imagine swaping weapons a bit cringe

[hollow jolt]

Assail balanced, Vet needs 75% damage resist back, shredder nerf reverted

UwU

[ornate hamlet]

Assail should just stay active all the time and kill everything within 500 meters

[gritty tapir]

I'd play Smite if it didn't slow you to a crawl and build peril about 2x too fast.

(without the bug at least)

[ornate hamlet]

That oughta fix the problem

[dim parrot]

I honestly only use it in emergencies

[safe monolith]

the game would be much easier without enemies, i think

[ornate hamlet]

The group stun is invaluable

[gritty tapir]

1000 meters. We are Psykers, after all.

The LORE says that...

[austere burrow]

assail redundancy is great though

[safe monolith]

like in sports, if they would stop preventing the other team from scoring, the game would be so much easier

[hollow jolt]

I remember someone asking to remove mutants and anomalies from Stalker :p

[gritty tapir]

Just steal all their balls.

[safe monolith]

we should be able to fall into chaos and become daemons

[frank moat]

I’d also appreciate if there was an open world with NPCs we could talk to and complete side quests for

[languid osprey]

Assail shards should seek amo boxes and packs and remove them so they give you 1 shard back

[safe monolith]

become a new boss enemy

[languid osprey]

Thats the stuff

[frank moat]

It’s 2023, Blizzard

[safe monolith]

sudden change, assassinate the psyker

[clear heath]

make assail friendly fire

[gritty tapir]

Like people wouldn't already do that if they could.

[safe monolith]

make everything friendly fire

[hollow jolt]

John Darktide: Please collect 10 nurgling ears

[clear heath]

assail should home in on allies

kill them instantly

[gritty tapir]

Give them a QTE to stop it. Make it impossible.

[frank moat]

Wow I feel so immersed in this universe

[safe monolith]

please collect the skulls of your enemies and pile them up into a throne

wait

[dim parrot]

assail should get there own podcast

[safe monolith]

hold on

[hollow jolt]

Also, where nurgling :c

[gritty tapir]

That's some ZEALOT stuff right there.

[hollow jolt]

I want nurglings

[languid osprey]

Make assail trail with soul fire so it becomes more impactful

[safe monolith]

no, i would say its heresy, so its cool

[autumn moth]

allies are just potential future enemies

[safe monolith]

😮

[safe monolith]

Fre

free food

[gritty tapir]

Maybe Assail could work with the Soulfire. The other talents for that effect kinda suck anyway.

[frank moat]

Walking corpse starch

[safe monolith]

just eat your allies for strength

[languid osprey]

Maybe assail should nail down elites to surfaces like a nail gun

No more mutants

[safe monolith]

that would be nice

[woeful patio]

I’d like to see assail for SOMETHING other than be visual clutter

[safe monolith]

imagine it fires like a crossbowbolt

and knocks them back into walls or off cliffs

[woeful patio]

Atm I just throw it into hordes and whatever happens happens

[gritty tapir]

Also, it needs to make loud PINGING noises when it hits anything.

[safe monolith]

yeah

[gritty tapir]

Like the TF2 frying pan, but LOUDER.

[safe monolith]

a ring or jingle

[frank moat]

Overwatch headshot sound

[safe monolith]

a DONG

[ornate hamlet]

Assail just needs to be TF2 engineer sentry

[gritty tapir]

Double Donk.

[languid osprey]

Thats a great idea every time u kill someone with assail the sniper sound goes off

[ornate hamlet]

But doesn't last forever

[dim parrot]

oh god

[safe monolith]

i have the brainburst head explosion sound effect as a text notification sound

[frank moat]

There was a Berserk clang mod added to the Nexus a few days ago, that might work but it wouldn’t be assail exclusive

[gritty tapir]

TF2 Sentry lasts forever though, so Assail should too.

logic

[ornate hamlet]

See above

[languid osprey]

But only for the other players

[woeful patio]

It only lasts as long as the enemy team doesn’t go direct hit

[safe monolith]

imagine if rmb assail just threw all of your shards at once

[gritty tapir]

No. No, I don't think I will.

[safe monolith]

with no tracking

[frank moat]

Oh good point

[languid osprey]

I feel we are getting into some changes that will make assail more impactfull

[gritty tapir]

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

[ornate hamlet]

Ok

[woeful patio]

Might be cool tho

[fluid tapir]

the buff it needs

[languid osprey]

Fatshark listen

[safe monolith]

just shotgun blast, without tracking

[gritty tapir]

Impactful. Good word. When will it start to stun bosses?

[ornate hamlet]

I'd honestly be okay with that

[safe monolith]

smite does that, no redundancies

[ornate hamlet]

And crazy peril gen

[safe monolith]

yeah

like 50 peril instant

[gritty tapir]

Beast of Nurgle. Assail should stunlock it.

[safe monolith]

i was in a game with myself and three ogryns

they melee stunlocked a plague ogryns

[frank moat]

Psykinetic’s Wrath but pointy

[safe monolith]

yes

[gritty tapir]

Yeah. Ogryn really stronk right now.

[safe monolith]

and infinite range

[gritty tapir]

And it pierces walls.

[safe monolith]

NO

stop BREAKING things

[gritty tapir]

The warp sees all.

[ornate hamlet]

Damage falloff because shotgun blast?

[gritty tapir]

YOU CAN'T CONTROL ME!

[safe monolith]

no, just no tracking. damage reduction for each enemy pierced, though

[gritty tapir]

FS will only read my comments for their next patch.

[ornate hamlet]

Turn into a daemonhost already

[fluid tapir]

voidstrike weakspot crits stun plague ogryns lol

[safe monolith]

maybe bleed over time for assail?

[ornate hamlet]

That .. Could honestly work

Bleed I don't agree with because nothing in psykers kit does bleed

Except for the knife

[safe monolith]

voidstrike can stun basically anything that exists

[safe monolith]

so we need something, i hear

[gritty tapir]

The burn effect is right there.

[fluid tapir]

the best cc is instant death, which it's also pretty good at..

[ornate hamlet]

Too good tbh

[safe monolith]

i mean, if you take a shard of crystal to the stomach and it goes through you, youre gonna bleed

[woeful patio]

Smite needs a decrease in peril gen, BB needs to charge faster, and assail needs something but I can’t nail what

[safe monolith]

especially condensed warp essence crystals

[gritty tapir]

Its a warp crystal. Soul burning is a logical result.

[ornate hamlet]

Assail needs to be removed from the game

[queen fog]

Or as the dream psyker describes them

[ornate hamlet]

Bam

[safe monolith]

yeah, but you cant just have every warp attack deal soulblaze, its broken

[ornate hamlet]

Problem solved

[queen fog]

“Shards of hatred”

[fluid tapir]

assail should be the "deal with 4 gunners behind cover, every 30s" skill imo

[gritty tapir]

Oh. I didn't know you worked for FatShark.

But seriously.

[fluid tapir]

i've been spamming high 5s using exclusively assail and the cooldown is honestly the only really broken part

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah I do, I'm the guy who removed weapon attachments from the game

[gritty tapir]

It just needs some tweaks. Make it less consistently.

[ornate hamlet]

This isn't CoD after all

[livid root]

hey are loadouts broken? dont see any of the ones I created

[ornate hamlet]

Last patch killed all loadouts

[safe monolith]

group up with tarkov and make the game incredibly annoying to play. oh, but dont add weapon attachments

[livid root]

shit thanks

[gritty tapir]

I'm just gonna get my Psyker to 30 before they nuke Assail to the point its unusable.

[ornate hamlet]

Wait until we add lasguns as part of the crossover promo

But they're lore accurate

[safe monolith]

you could go the borderlands route, have attachments but they are rolled randomly

[gritty tapir]

Tarkov already has flashlights, right?

Same thing.

[languid osprey]

So after some consideration assail should eat ammo drops + nail down elites to the floor and ping enemies targeted? I feel that will bring the skill to the level it needs

[safe monolith]

shotgun blast rmb

[languid osprey]

That too

[gritty tapir]

The current RMB version of assail is fine to be fair.

[safe monolith]

and turns into an infinite sentry turret

[gritty tapir]

Slow fire rate, double the peril buildup.

[safe monolith]

why would i want that

fast fire rate, reduced peril

[gritty tapir]

To snipe snipers?

[dim parrot]

hopefully that day will never come

[safe monolith]

fuck snipers

i beat the shit out of them with a stick

every time

staff beatings

[gritty tapir]

The prophecy has been spoken. It cannot be unsaid.

[boreal crag]

Is a tanky melee Psyker possible right now?

[keen slate]

Is true aim working with assail?

[safe monolith]

also, dont call it smite, and dont call it lightning. it is smitening.

[gritty tapir]

To be fair Smite is a really weird name for a chain lightning spell, at least to me.

[safe monolith]

right

[safe monolith]

brainburst should be called smite

[boreal crag]

Leveling Psyker is making me miss Unchained Sienna, which is pretty much all I played in VT2

[woeful patio]

Assail should teleport me to extraction when I RMB

[safe monolith]

smite should be called assail

[frank moat]

Just realised why assail is so strong lmao

[woeful patio]

Same, Unchained goated

[safe monolith]

i didnt say thats not the name, im giving it a better name.

[frank moat]

Psyker be hiding bullets in these snowballs

[queen fog]

Oh u figured out what the M2 does? Dope

[woeful patio]

Weaker BB

[keen slate]

It depends if you want to cosplay Zeus

[safe monolith]

play necromancer

[keen slate]

If yes, then it's fitting name

[safe monolith]

speaking of necromancy

[queen fog]

Oh wait shit I just now see the bullets that’s pretty funny

[safe monolith]

mind control when?

[gritty tapir]

Psyker can't even control THEIR mind.

[safe monolith]

yeah but chaos dregs have like... nothing

[dim parrot]

telekinesis when?

[boreal crag]

I was hoping that there is a way to make Melee Psyker work, and not be a squish ball

[safe monolith]

its less mind control and more body control

[gritty tapir]

I mean, Assail is right there. 😛

[safe monolith]

control the bodies of others

[gritty tapir]

And the push.

[dim parrot]

imagine if we could use the force

[safe monolith]

we can dude

shriek

[dim parrot]

shrek

[gritty tapir]

Its just a LOUD force.

[safe monolith]

Fus Roh Dah

i want a new voice line

[gritty tapir]

To be fair, knowing how Psyker it.

It would be more: RRREEEEEEE

[safe monolith]

isnt there a voiceline where the psyker corrects the subtitles?

[gritty tapir]

Yeah.

[safe monolith]

:)