psyker-class

[olive ember]

I mean all the psykers I’ve met today running assail were kinda mid

Except for like one

[ornate hamlet]

Those are cool looking though

[sullen bobcat]

Here is everyone's reminder that assail needs to be nerfed

[olive ember]

Assail is perfectly balanced smh

I don’t remember any of the vets complaining they could vaporize whatever they gazed at

[placid rover]

it will be nerfed because veterans are complaining about it

[ornate hamlet]

Make all characters super strong so everyone’s happy

Ogryn in that spot rn lol

[paper fern]

I don't care about assail being too strong, I care about the other two options being VERY boring and bad in comparison

[gritty tapir]

It needs a slight nerf and other things need buffing. But its FS, so its going to be dead next week most likely.

[olive ember]

Pmuch

[slate oasis]

assail is karma for all the "thanks for highlighting the heads with brain burst so I can more easily shoot them" jokes

[sullen bobcat]

Brain burst is still fine

[olive ember]

And then everyone is gonna complain about how weak psyker feels

[paper fern]

Like wow, slow single target damage? Small AOE stun with low damage? I'd rather be Yondu

[slate oasis]

tbh as long as they leave voidstrike how it is I don't care what they do to assail

[gritty tapir]

Voidstrike is good.

[sullen bobcat]

Voidstrike is busted

[olive ember]

I mean that’s also gonna get nerfed

[austere burrow]

Psyker would still be fine if they somehow kill voidstrike and assail

[gritty tapir]

Assail is fun. I don't care if they nerf it a bit as long as the class fantasy is still there.

[sullen bobcat]

You can just spend the entire game just using that and nothing else

[placid rover]

there's no way that they won't touch voidstrike

[olive ember]

That’s like the two overtuned things rn, voidstrike and assail

[sullen bobcat]

It just does everything too well

[slate oasis]

I know but I can dream

[austere burrow]

It's not like the other psyker builds are weak

[sullen bobcat]

What's the identity of voidstrike except as legitimately the "do everything" staff

[gritty tapir]

We'll get AT LEAST another few days before Vet is OP again for a year. Can we really ask for any more than that?

[olive ember]

I mean it’s supposed to be ranged horde clear but it went from being bad at everything to being good at everything with this patch

[sullen bobcat]

It just needs way less flak and carapace damage

[olive ember]

Just swap it’s damage values with surge

And tada

[sullen bobcat]

A little cleave tuning

[olive ember]

Both staffs are balanced

[gritty tapir]

We need an antiarmored special staff.

[sullen bobcat]

surge

[olive ember]

That should be surge but it’s mid

[sullen bobcat]

Surge is actually balanced

[olive ember]

For only 3 charges and 70% of your peril you can kill ONE (1) crusher

Surge is weak

[placid rover]

surge is decent, but it's also boring as all hell

[olive ember]

Depends on if you think all the other staffs are overpowered I guess

[austere burrow]

Would be nice if surge had more damage

I like using it

[spice veldt]

gib psyker a precision force staff that is fast-firing pls

[sullen bobcat]

Purge, surge, and trauma are all fine

[austere burrow]

It's the most mobile staff

[thorn cedar]

thats called a gun

[olive ember]

Purge and trauma are no where near the same tier as surge staff what

[thorn cedar]

the staff you want is gun

[spice veldt]

i peepee pew pew all over you

[thorn cedar]

jokes on u i like peepee pewpew

[spice veldt]

poopee

[slate oasis]

is trauma fine? I thought it was generally considered the worst staff

[olive ember]

Purge kills infinite maulers in one full charge trauma can CC entire groups of enemies

Surge struggles with anything more than 3 crushers

[spice veldt]

it was considered the best generalist before this patch

[sullen bobcat]

Trauma has amazing CC and you can apply tons of brittle still

[paper fern]

Psyker should get a FUCKING laser beam staff

[sullen bobcat]

While still putting out damage

[olive ember]

It’s been considered good since like march, tho depending on who you ask it’s still the “worst” staff because they don’t know how to use it

[sullen bobcat]

But I'm not going to use trauma constantly when a mutie pushes me or there's a monster

[paper fern]

Just go PHWOOOOM through a horse with a laser

[sullen bobcat]

Like, there should be a good and common reason why I should switch off a weapon

[paper fern]

Horde. Not. Not a horse

[gritty tapir]

Can Assail crit? And does True Aim work with it?

[spice veldt]

yes and yes

[kind jay]

my game crashed on loading screen with the quote "death comes for us all"

damn

[orchid nest]

trauma is still the king at handling a chaotic situation. it can come out of situations unscathed that other staffs would struggle to even be used in

[kind jay]

guess i gotta uninstall

[sullen bobcat]

See: voidstrike legitimately having 0 reason why I should switch off of it

[austere burrow]

Surge kinda competes hard with trauma I feel

[olive ember]

Lol no

[thorn cedar]

i been using recon las

[spice veldt]

i don't like how voidstrike feels so i've just gone back to trauma

[sullen bobcat]

Surge does a ton more single target damage

[thorn cedar]

true aim is basically built in headhunter

[sullen bobcat]

Wdym, trivializing everything isn't fun?

[thorn cedar]

Free ez infernus stacks as soon as you fire

[spice veldt]

tbf i do find fun in that

but I just hate how slow-firing it is

[olive ember]

Surge and voidstrike should have their damage values swapped

[spice veldt]

it's a weapon that feels murky to me regardless of its stats

[olive ember]

Like that’s all it needs and surge would actually compete

[sullen bobcat]

I only fire at like half charge usually

[kind jay]

hot take: most people dream of power fantasy, but wont actively say it

[olive ember]

And it would tune down voidstrike in the process

[sullen bobcat]

I also don't use that faster charge rate blessing

Since I'm on surge and crit

I do have a nice charge up / weak point refund staff

But surge

[olive ember]

3 - 4 full voidstrike balls to kill a crusher and 2 charges with surge staff seems balanced to me idk

[austere burrow]

Surge staff has crit bonus though

I wonder if it could one crit crushers with void numbers

[sullen bobcat]

Surge leans really heavily into crit, and has ridiculously quick charge

[orchid nest]

ironically because of our talents surge staff still crits less than voidstrike though

[sullen bobcat]

So I don't think 2 surge full charges would be the best

[olive ember]

Surge literally needs 3 charges to kill a single crusher

[spice veldt]

i wonder if I should run blazing spirit + rending shockwave

[austere burrow]

Someone here said they have a surge that can two shot crushers

[olive ember]

Which is hilariously bad for a staff that can only hit one enemy

[olive ember]

I’ve tested it’s a fucking technicality

If you jump through 5 different hoops then yes

[austere burrow]

That's what I thought lol

[orchid nest]

I also heavily considered this and just using true aim for the blazing yeah

[austere burrow]

Because the damage on my slightly less optimal one wasn't even close

[sullen bobcat]

And how long does that take?

[olive ember]

Max warp charges, max perfect timing, warp rider, max peril

[olive ember]

Way too long when you factor in quelling and when the game chooses to spam 10 crushers at a time

A duelling sword is also 3 heavies to the head to kill, except there’s no peril management and no quelling downtime

[sullen bobcat]

Quelling is pretty much instant now tbh

[sullen bobcat]

And it's also riskier?

[olive ember]

I mean it is but it’s still down time

[spice veldt]

if I crit with trauma, does every enemy hit by it count for Mettle? (+toughness on critical hit)

HMMMMMMMMMM

[thorn cedar]

Its on a crit not on enemy hit

Sadly

[spice veldt]

ye on critical hi

t

[orchid nest]

I'm not sure. I do like how trauma crits actually do enough extra damage to be worth it now though themselves compared to previously

[ornate hamlet]

is the soulstealer replenishing toughness whenever i get a kill using a blitz ability?

[thorn cedar]

No like you can swing at the air and hit nothing and as long as a crit happens you get the boost lmao

[spice veldt]

yes (it's as busted as you think)

[ornate hamlet]

or is it only with the warp using a melee weapon

[ornate hamlet]

jesus

[spice veldt]

das Perfect Timing

not a true psyker main smh

[thorn cedar]

Oh wait i mistook ye

[austere burrow]

Use it with empowered psionics

[thorn cedar]

SO MANY NAMES OK

;_;

[austere burrow]

Get instant toughness bar from clicking assail once

[olive ember]

Whenever you get a kill with a warp attack, so blitzes but also staff kills

[spice veldt]

i combust all over your perilous

[olive ember]

And illisi specials

[ornate hamlet]

😮

[sullen bobcat]

Honestly, empowered psionics + that elite thing + assail needs to be changed. The fact that hunting grounds just doesn't exist anymore is just ridiculous

[olive ember]

Basically anything magic based will give you 15 toughness

I run it with purge and yeah it’s rly nice just instantly filling my toughness

[plucky badger]

Hello siblings

[ornate hamlet]

Looking to break away from the meta? With the new changes to shield perks for recharging shields, and the synergy with crit attacks and high warp damage, this build is surprisingly good at keeping your toughness up! Check it out! https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a58a767-419c-460a-93b6-f97a1bb6a4ba/voidborne-pyrophobia

[sullen bobcat]

No

[olive ember]

Bro what is with that bot speak

[austere burrow]

Not clicking that virus link

[ornate hamlet]

Didnt want you to look at it anyway. Just people who were interested.

[sullen bobcat]

That's a short list

[ornate hamlet]

Not a virus link - it is the build planner.

[jolly hawk]

Hello fellow human

[ornate hamlet]

A man who doesn't cast a net never catches anything.

[austere burrow]

You take toughness on peril gain over battle meditation?

[sullen bobcat]

You don't if you throw it onto the floor

[plucky badger]

Beep boop bop

[ornate hamlet]

What perk specifically?

[jolly hawk]

If chat gpt was a dialect

[austere burrow]

I feel like meditation is really nice on trauma

[olive ember]

Not bad I’d swap some stuff out for personal preference but yea

[austere burrow]

With how much you have to quell on that staff

[ornate hamlet]

You don't really.

Even if you do, it goes super fast

like 1 second and your down to 60-50

[kind jay]

@ornate hamlet actually using this exact thing (diff weapons tho). can vouch for it being good

[ornate hamlet]

THanks!

I'm enjoying it more than assail or the shields, honestly.

or lightning.

[olive ember]

I’m just running a glass cannon purge build

[ornate hamlet]

Here's the stick I currently have, looking for another one.

[olive ember]

Surge is anemic and idk I’ve used trauma for a bit now

[keen harbor]

oh, so it's like a purg build, but you use trauma instead

[ornate hamlet]

And illisi

I wouldn't use illisi with purg.

[kind jay]

i love assail tbh but with this build i can have surge out like 95% of the run and just shriek hordes to death in one button

[olive ember]

I still don’t see how surge is that good but

[keen harbor]

Personally, I can't live without shield, but I do like better horde clearing

[plucky badger]

I got bored of assail after a day

[olive ember]

Purge with BB and duelling sword is rly solid

Purge gives horde clear BB for anti armor and range and duelling sword for shit like mutants who try to run you down

[ornate hamlet]

You get more bang for your buck with this build, because of the synergy with Perfect Timing, Empyrean Empowerment, and Warp Rider from the trauma stick.

[kind jay]

i swap between mk4, deimos, and chainsword

idk theyre all fun

[ornate hamlet]

That they are.

[sullen bobcat]

Going to run purge, assail, and illsi together

[ornate hamlet]

Triple redundancy can be a good thing.

[keen harbor]

purge for melee horde, assail for shooter horde, illis for specialist horde. solid choice

[ornate hamlet]

What'll he do against ogryns, monstrosities?

[keen harbor]

have a rumbler ogryn

[ornate hamlet]

xD

[pale pilot]

so how necessary is the assail +30% reload node, you all feel?

[keen harbor]

I am shocked, shocked I tell you, at how good rumbler ogryn is for stunlocking every monster except nurgle spawn

[ornate hamlet]

After I found Voidstrike, I didn't get any of the assail bonus perks

[keen harbor]

+30% reload isn't really needed, unless you are using it as main weapon, I feel

[ornate hamlet]

On my ogryn, I do the taunting ogryn with Paul (powermaul), the recharge rate on the CD for taunt is insane.

[worldly chasm]

Well this was a difficult auric hishock - void is totally balanced

[ornate hamlet]

1 million boss dmg

wow

how many did you fight?

[pale pilot]

cool, i've been looking for a node to drop, i'll dump that reload node

[limber heath]

That isn't boss damage it's just damage

[plucky flax]

How long did that take?

[grand shoal]

mods haven't been updated yet right?

[ornate hamlet]

dyslexia

[worldly chasm]

43 minutes of pain

[limber heath]

Shit like scoreboard works (see above). Plus a bunch of other mods.

[grand shoal]

so do i need to replace the mod framework or something since the patch?

[thin finch]

oh damn I tried the surge staff, Me no likey

[plucky flax]

43 mins and you got like no plasteels.

[thin finch]

it's way too quick ,whivh I guess the point was to try to give it another job now that smite does what it was doing but eeh

[plucky flax]

Real pain.

[worldly chasm]

I couldn't stop to look, my team kept dying lol

[digital narwhal]

Disrupt Destiny stacks should fall off one at a time.

DD forgot the lessons about Warp Charge stacks falling off all at once.

[spice veldt]

I think it's fine cuz stacks reset if you interact with the enemy (damaging them counts)

[tacit cargo]

whats BIS for the Maccaban Mk V?

[spice veldt]

the highlights are just real fucked

[digital narwhal]

Oh, damaging them counts?

[spice veldt]

ye

[ionic needle]

Disrupt destiny... Is there a trick I don't see here?

[digital narwhal]

Huh...

Well, I'm gonna immediately use that for my Crit Build then so I can hit Dreg Rager, Flak Rager and Dreg Gunner one shot Breakpoints for my Revvy

Cheers for that info, Arco

[olive ember]

It’s supposed to be a damage staff

Except it doesn’t have damage

Kekw

[raw oriole]

For the crit psyker perks in the tree, is riposte or precognition more synergistic on melee weapons?

[rugged fiber]

At least has more damage than smite

[olive ember]

I guess but smite stuns entire hordes

Surge hits 2 enemies

[spice veldt]

riposte has better synergy for proccing the crit stuff

since precog is just an increase in crit/weakspot damage

[olive ember]

But doesn’t precog do more damage

Like it secures one shot kills n all that

[lyric burrow]

riposte also lasts much longer

[spice veldt]

ye the bonus is better over the timeframe

but riposte lasts 6 seconds

precog has the bonus of consistency

[raw oriole]

Makes sense. Additionally, if you're wielding your melee, proc Riposte, switch to Assail, and let em fly - do those darts benefit from the Riposte crit chance bonus?

[spice veldt]

but you can also reach 39% crit chance on Psyker with a riposte proc which is decently consistent

I'm not sure; I think crab remarked on the crit being decided the moment you release the shards

[lyric burrow]

you run crit chance on the mk4 right

[spice veldt]

so prob Precog if using assail

ye I do for non-monster

[lyric burrow]

word

im liking mk4 so far finding a BB build for it (i dont like assail)

works well with trauma

purg works too i just run AB

instead

[raw oriole]

I didn't realize, are the Dueling Swords Psyker exclusive?

[lyric burrow]

that way i still have better ranged

yes

[spice veldt]

psyker-exclusive drip

[lyric burrow]

do you still run no +3 stam with DS4 arco? assuming KD is picked

[spice veldt]

ye I don't run stam

and I run Trauma which practically guarantees revives

[lyric burrow]

yeah im doing the same thing

2 health one toughness might swap to two toughness

[spice veldt]

in fact I don't want +stamina to generate peril from KD most times

[lyric burrow]

either that or change to your build with more toughness nodes

[spice veldt]

hell yeah brotherr

[lyric burrow]

im using all the toughness ones i can atm but really want EP since im running BB

and it could use the help

[olive ember]

SMH fucking how do you revive people then

[ebon jolt]

+Stam reduces the peril cost when using KD, right?

[spice veldt]

ye; KD is 4x of your max stamina, essentially

[ebon jolt]

So a +3 is basically 50% block efficiency?

[spice veldt]

yeah, if going to 3 max stamina -> 6 max stam

[acoustic path]

All I want is better rending

[untold veldt]

Is empowered smite/assail worth it? I haven't really touched psyker much since picking the game back up

[tired hearth]

How powerful is the left mouse attack for void staff high rating?

[olive ember]

Worth it for assail not worth it for smite unless you are abusing the bug

[near wyvern]

damn siblings, I think I found a viable smite+surge build without relying on bugs

[untold veldt]

Ok, that matches my perception of it at a glance -- thanks!

[carmine agate]

I wish the free 15s brain burst dont work on normal mobs

[olive ember]

Send build?

Tho I was tryin to make surge decent and it was kinda mid no matter how much I tried

[near wyvern]

in a minute

[burnt fjord]

can wildfire spread onto a demonhost? i just had one trigger on me and that's the only explanation i can think of

[lyric burrow]

Yeah

[near wyvern]

yes

[lyric burrow]

Dots will trigger DH

[burnt fjord]

so lame 😐

thx

[vale creek]

guyzzzzzzz i tried out new stuff todayyy

the knife throwing is fun

[olive ember]

No surge staff isn’t that good

[raw oriole]

I've heard people call Perilous Combustion insane, but why?

[olive ember]

Oh

[royal falcon]

my ui after one trip into nexus mods

[olive ember]

It’s fire on nearby enemies whenever you kill elite/special so it’s rly useful for mixed hordes

[royal falcon]

^

[olive ember]

Cuz you kill the elites and the horde burns down with em

[olive ember]

@spice veldt

[lyric burrow]

Yeah its just kinda free SB spread

[raw oriole]

4 stacks enough to kill trash?

[spice veldt]

die

[royal falcon]

you can never have enough soulblaze stacks

[whole oxide]

kill 2 elites and its 8

[lyric burrow]

No but theres enough elites to get more than 4 and it helps if your using blazing anything

[olive ember]

I don’t think 4 is enough but 8 def is so if you can kill two elites that’s basically wte trash next to em dead

[spice veldt]

8 Soulblaze stacks is enough to dink a scab ragers down to 20% HP, and that's without any buffs

[dim grotto]

Best gun for high difficulty gun psyker?

[carmine agate]

Even if it does not kill softening them up is really good

[olive ember]

Vraks 3

[lyric burrow]

Vraks 3

[olive ember]

Vraks 3 headhunter autogun

[dim grotto]

Interesting

[raw oriole]

AH, beeg knowledge,, failed to realize it can stack unlike Wildfire.

[dim grotto]

I’ve been using shredder

[olive ember]

Shredder is good too tho it’s been nerfed since pinning fire nerf

[lyric burrow]

Cue the clip

[olive ember]

The big difference is that the skill used to be the good ole meme wrack n ruin. But they removed the BB restriction so it’s just pretty decent now especially with the amount of elite packs

[teal needle]

Honestly gunker still kills hard w shredder. Ammo is an issue though

[lyric burrow]

Yeah shredder still v good

[olive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-the-you-cant-handle-the-truth-gif-12563764

[dim grotto]

That’s fine, what’s the perk that uh

[worthy sage]

Finally made a 550

[dim grotto]

Gives crit chance during continued fire?

[lyric burrow]

Arco hates it cause its not off center

[raw oriole]

So is it strong enough to be a 100% pickup on ANY min/maxed build?

[dim grotto]

My shredder rolled that

[olive ember]

I haven’t tried enough imo but a lot of people are saying yes

I typically pick it up cuz it’s on the way

[lethal lagoon]

Those perks and blessings though, oof.

[lyric burrow]

Yeah its easy enough to get

[lethal lagoon]

Need flurry and crit chance

[olive ember]

Cuz I normally take either toughness on quell or toughness on warp kill so it’s just one point away

[tired hearth]

Assail or Brain Burst?

[acoustic path]

godlike

[lyric burrow]

Assail for meta

Not close

[near wyvern]

@olive ember
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a58be9c-85c9-41b2-8345-e4ccc2d90b9c/surge-smite?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[carmine agate]

What blessings for trauma staff?

[lyric burrow]

Rending/flurry or blazing/nexus

[olive ember]

That’s pretty similar with what I cooked up, tho I still thought surge was meh

[near wyvern]

@olive ember you roam around with surge and collect charges by killing specials / elites, during bigger packs and hordes smite until 90+ peril, ult and keep holding that smite. By the time you finish you should have almost all your stacks back and enemies should be dead.

[lethal lagoon]

game is waaay too fast paced for blazing to have any use atm.

[olive ember]

I’m surprised you didn’t go for perfect timing tho @near wyvern

[carmine agate]

Hmm is there a diff in playstyle for those 2?

[olive ember]

That’s free warp damage whenever you crit

[near wyvern]

cannot aford it

it's built around the smite creeping flames combo

[olive ember]

I’d personally drop some of the fire skills tbh

[near wyvern]

surge is there just to kill steal stacks

[olive ember]

Lol

[near wyvern]

nah, smite needs them all to clear hordes

[tired hearth]

Anyone feels like the Void staff is more powerful than Trauma staff?

[olive ember]

I mean that’s one way to build with surge staff

[lethal lagoon]

Absolutely, Void is way overtunned atm

[lyric burrow]

It is lol

Void is beyond broken

[near wyvern]

^ this ^

[dim grotto]

Best weapon for wave clear? Melee I mean.

[lethal lagoon]

But I don't mind it, let all the loyal void staff lovers have their month

[plucky flax]

No.

[near wyvern]

devil's claw

it got buffed and fucks now

[olive ember]

Is it better than illisi now

[near wyvern]

shred + 200% cleave

[olive ember]

That’s kinda a bruh

[dim grotto]

Interesting

[tired hearth]

Since void staff has blast radius, can it be used as a long ranged trauma staff?

[lyric burrow]

Comparable afaik

[lethal lagoon]

It's just a question of, Do you like special ability weapons or not.

[lyric burrow]

No

Blast radius is small

[lethal lagoon]

Illy if yes, claw or sumthin else if no.

[near wyvern]

yes, but illisi is still the better mixed horde clear, you just have to run uncanny and slaughterer

[lethal lagoon]

Plus you get basically infinite toughness when using Illy to horde clear

[crisp yacht]

How do yall feel about mk5 combat axe?

[plucky flax]

It's op on zealot.

[near wyvern]

devil's claw just eats poxies for breakfast and the parry deals like 1k damage on weakspot, even against some armour

[plucky flax]

Because of zealot's fast attack speed.

[tired hearth]

How often you use left click attack when using a staff? I thought like for Psyker you spam right click attack 😂

[near wyvern]

so if you are really good with the parry timings it's also very decent against monstrosities

[plucky flax]

I wouldn't use it on psyker but I guess you can push attack spam.

[echo turtle]

I wish the dueling sword had parry

[lyric burrow]

Without old bm its prob mid

[lethal lagoon]

Left click needs to be remove and replaceable with some cool ability, it has no reason to exist.

[lyric burrow]

On psyker

[echo turtle]

It's the weapon that makes the most sense to parry lol

[lethal lagoon]

Give us a gandalf like melee charge attack or something on left click.

[carmine agate]

Purg staff left click is great

[lethal lagoon]

I forgot about purge, yeah.

[plucky flax]

If you play warp charges stacking and push attack spam with antax maybe the power level is okay to cleave with current bm.

[clear heath]

I left click with surge staff to detonate barrels

very useful for killing teammates

[tired hearth]

The projectiles from Left click staff attack are so slowwwww

[lyric burrow]

Josho alt account

[untold veldt]

Chainsword

[austere burrow]

It is

But the interrupt is way better than a parry lol

[clear heath]

Do you guys think they'll ever do anything with the staff bonk?

[spice veldt]

dclaws parry oneshotting full HP dreg ragers 😔

[lyric burrow]

It does kinda deserve it for being so mid before

[strong gulch]

Blaze trauma you want to float around high peril to have crit to proc blazing spirit.
Channel canceling helps you do fast danger circles that also manages peril. You're not charging to full at high peril.

[lyric burrow]

I forgot it existed

[tired hearth]

Is the fire staff good? What’s it best for?

[lyric burrow]

Horde clear

And stagger/suppression

[plucky flax]

Good for tickling crushers.

[lyric burrow]

But its worse that Trauma/void

Its still very good horde clear tho

[tired hearth]

I see. I’ll stick to those two for now.

[strong gulch]

Fire staff M2 for horde clear. M1 for stagger. Great for mid range. Lacks long range.

Not great against carapace.

Less brain power too.

[shut jewel]

Which psyker voice again was it that had a voiceline with assail where they go "I found you" or something like that?

[feral verge]

take barrage off of that asap lol

[shut jewel]

It's kinda just been stuck in my head for ages and it would be nice to know which one it was again.

[feral verge]

terrifying barrage is useless

literally useless

all staves already supress

blessing does nothing. its like not having a blessing at all

[lyric burrow]

i missed the mankar TB roasts

you are right though idk why we can get it

[feral verge]

lmao

i try to save as many folk as i can

[lyric burrow]

its needed

[untold veldt]

Loner I'm pretty sure

[molten schooner]

Do we have a thread for good assails builds?

[dawn wolf]

Take Assail. That's it for a good build

[ember horizon]

assail is melee or ranged?

wondering if true aim will work

[dawn wolf]

Pretty sure it will

[neat summit]

I love the purg and void.

Void you can charge up with assail to absolutely nuke carapace and flak.

Purg gives you more of a horde clear/suppressbot role which is really fun if you’re good at using cover to close gaps or are abusing warp charge CD resets. Purg you’ll want to pair with brain burst so you have some way to damage single targets at range.

For both, if you’re not abusing shield CD resets with warp charges you’re likely doing it wrong.

[strong gulch]

Ranged and yes

[ember horizon]

pretty sure it also counted as melee weekly too...

but thanks for info

[full panther]

I've heard force staffs are good now? Are the lightning staffs still good too?

[slate oasis]

the lightning staff is now a damaging staff rather than cc. I haven't tried it in an actual game but it seems decent

[opal pebble]

I find it good for crushers and maulers

[full panther]

Ah, so it's not a stunlock anymore? Bummer

[fast swan]

whats a good scrier's gaze build?

and should i use revolver or laspistol?

[opal pebble]

That what smite is relegated to now I guess, it still stuns the hell out of the few things it hits

[slate oasis]

there's still stunlock lightning but it's the smite ability now

[fast swan]

does laspistol work well with scriers gaze?

oh wait nvm u cant ADS with it on psyker its probably dog

[untold vault]

Did they nerf the maelstrom odo dockets reward? It's lower than some HISTG maps now.

It used to be like 60-80k

[spice veldt]

depends on the maelstrom

hmm was melee-only this low though

i assume so

they should prob bump the cost of melee-only up though lol

[austere burrow]

That seems kinda low

[untold vault]

Idk, but yesterday and today I havent seen any above 50k

[spice veldt]

the burgled monstrosity maelstrom is still 84k dockets

[austere burrow]

The heck

[untold vault]

HISTG nearly pays more and does so if you actually queue into it with quick play

And you get more plasteel/diamantine etc.

[spice veldt]

yeah the costs have some looking-at needed

esp now that melee maelstrom is proper ball-busting

[untold vault]

I havent seen Maelstrom above 50k yesterday + today

[fast swan]

is scriers gaze good on maelstrom?

[untold vault]

Depends on your build and your peril control skills

[fast swan]

im that good

[untold vault]

Then use it

[fast swan]

but what weapons work best with it?

[untold vault]

It's psyker dps on crack

Gun psyker

[fast swan]

revolver? las pistol? some rifle?

[burnt tapir]

So if I was going to use surge staff, 🤢 , what would be desireable on it?

[untold vault]

Idk what is optimal

Ive seen revolvers, shredders, brauto etc

[burnt tapir]

I use Gaze with my Flamestorm build, but giving up shield kinda hurts in some situations

[untold vault]

Also seen a madman use it in his assail build

[burnt tapir]

I'm not sure more damage is ever better than shield

It's so useful

[fast swan]

damage = dead shooters,w hich makes shields obsolete

if u think abou tit

[burnt tapir]

Shooters take very little for a pskyer to kill

Only thing gaze will noticeably(?) help with will be tanky targets

[spice veldt]

on the other hand, the bonus from scrier's gaze is eh

[slate oasis]

I'd probably go with warp flurry + warp nexus

[spice veldt]

and it's the only ult that comes with a straight up detriment

and you can only exit it by going to 100% peril

it's an ult where one of the best ways to use it is to use it before engagements, not during them

[burnt tapir]

That's what I figured, but it's been a long while since I used a Surge

[young meteor]

yeah, but +5% dmg typically don't reach (meaningful) breakpoints, so it's still better to invest into survivability instead

[burnt tapir]

Low peril staffs like Purg can maintain gaze easily in combat

I don't think any other staff can though

[fast swan]

no way its only 5% damage

[spice veldt]

maybe vstrike with transfer

[burnt tapir]

without becoming a self hazard

[fast swan]

aint it like 30%

[burnt tapir]

after 30 seconds

[spice veldt]

+10% damage and +20% crit chance for the ult's default effect

[fast swan]

tbh thyeve gotta add a way to speed that up

[subtle flame]

is brainblast worth using?

[burnt tapir]

I don't think so

[fast swan]

every kill in scries gaze should increase the ramp up effect by a second

but not affect the peril gen

[burnt tapir]

precog enables that

[spice veldt]

Precognition should just be a default effect of Scrier's gaze

rather than a node that you have to spec iinto

[static mist]

Is the surge blessing on voidstrike actually good now? Ive gotten mixed messages from reddit

[fast swan]

oh right

[young meteor]

I thought you were talking about the psyker's stat nodes (white circles), where it's 5% dmg vs 15 toughness. MB

[spice veldt]

iz gr8 cuz psyker has deterministic crits now

[burnt tapir]

But I use Reality Anchor with my Purg gaze build

[untold vault]

Yes

It's what makes it great

You have crits every 5 shots now if you take the talent

[spice veldt]

or if you get 5 headshots with a single ball

then you'll just get surge procs with every shot

[static mist]

god emperor I need surge

[untold vault]

Yup

Since it cleaves too

Shoot it into a horde and you get crits

[willow hazel]

Does rending work with soulblaze?

[untold vault]

Take Prescience aura, and stack crit where you can

[spice veldt]

ye (Perilous Combustion w/ Uncanny Strike be like)

there are surely no broken combinations to be found here

[dim grotto]

I use scrier with a shredder pistol and it goes fucking crazy

And brain rupture

But only with the chance to proc on attack

Never use it manually unless snipers

[spice veldt]

also it turns out that Mettle does indeed roll for EVERY critical hit you do, so if you roll a critical blast on your trauma, you'll just regenerate all of your toughness even if you don't kill enemies

[static mist]

Is surge just extremly rare? Ive built 14 staffs hunting the blessing nothing

[spice veldt]

very fun

[willow hazel]

I thought so. I felt like I did more soulblaze damage with the mk4 out than staffs

[untold vault]

Does it proc Kinetic flayer too?

10% to cause brain rupture per hit

But shredder rpm is very high

[untold vault]

It's hadron rng

T4 blessings are rarer in general

[spice veldt]

rip the days of AP one-shotting crushers with kinetic flayer

[untold vault]

I hope they buff brainburst though

[burnt tapir]

Does the Empowered Psionics Smite bug still work?

[spice veldt]

my stance on it is that the builds that BB fits in is just not that much to be frank

[burnt tapir]

I wanted to get in at least one match with it before it got patched

[spice veldt]

weapon variety is one issue since psyker doesn't really have that much with regards to force ranged weapons

and if you want anti-armour, the duelling swords will far outpace BB

[woven pumice]

So there's a 7th mission type called flash?

Never seen it

[spice veldt]

not in-game (even though it's been referenced in the penances)

[upper galleon]

Only thing i go BB on is purge build

[spice veldt]

but I don't think it's considered a mission type among the seven

[woven pumice]

then idk what I'm missing for those penances

[woven pumice]

just at 6/7 🥹

[upper galleon]

You are missing investigation or repair

These mission types only have one map each

Hab Dreyko for investigation

And Power matrix for repair

95% of the time if you are 5/7 or 6/7 it is those 2 maps

[untold vault]

Isnt there that underground coolant repair + surface sattelite dish repair one?

Or was that disruption

[upper galleon]

Sattellite dish isnt repair

[dawn wolf]

So under the missions there is an emblem with 1-4 chevrons, and then one with skulls on the sides. I assume this is what difficulty you've beaten the map on?

[untold vault]

Ah rip then

[upper galleon]

I think its disruption or strike dont care much

[upper galleon]

Yes

[woven pumice]

that's nice to know

[tacit cargo]

Boys what's BIS blessings for the deimos fs?

[untold vault]

Btw does transfer peril quell 8% peril on every weak spot hit? Or only once even if your voidstrike cleaves through heads?

[tacit cargo]

slaughterer and something else prob

[untold vault]

Uncanny + Slaughterer If you want dmg

[upper galleon]

Slaughter deflector if you want to use it

[untold vault]

If you run shield I think deflector is less of an issue

[upper galleon]

Uncanny slaught or unstable slaught if deflector isnt your thing

[tacit cargo]

kk

ty guys

[spice veldt]

only once

[untold vault]

Rip

[upper galleon]

Typically its gunkers who run deflection since the peril block goes down to DD

[teal needle]

I don't really advocate for deflector any more, although for most force swords there aren't two other critical blessings anyway

[untold vault]

Yeah, shooters have becoming less and less of a problem

It's mostly the 20 dreg/scab gunners and reaper spawns on some modifiers now.

[teal needle]

I just crutch on the drop shield more lol

[untold vault]

damn bro

4k odo dockets for 3 scriptures

Please fatshark, that doesnt even pay for a single gun

[upper galleon]

Lol lmao

Yea secondary objectives dont get boosted

[burnt tapir]

So after thinking surge was terrible and not using it, I still think it's terrible

[burnt tapir]

trying it out on some 5s

[upper galleon]

Grimiores especially should get a massive buff cause rn everyone just ignores them

Surge is great

[untold vault]

I think it used to be much higher

[upper galleon]

Just outshines by void rn

[burnt tapir]

and trauma

[untold vault]

But I cant remember correctly

[upper galleon]

Nah trauma and surge are different

[untold vault]

I still think it's way too little

[upper galleon]

Surge is single target anti armor

[burnt tapir]

surge is aoe anti everything tho

[untold vault]

At least in VT2 grims etc gave proper rewards

[burnt tapir]

sorry

[upper galleon]

Trauma is aoe rending applier

[burnt tapir]

trauma I mean

my trauma is ragdolling and killing crusher squads easily on 5s

[upper galleon]

Surge kills crushers way faster than trauma, it just needs its flak damage boosted and void nerfed

[lyric burrow]

most normal melee only auric mission

[upper galleon]

Well packs is a whole cup of works but i find new surge to be way healthier and more fun to use

[lyric burrow]

yeah trauma isnt great vs cara anymore

great at disabling them

[burnt tapir]

brittle on it helps it chew through them

[upper galleon]

Still see siblings spam surge into hordes

[upper galleon]

It is good rending got buffed

You go rending flurry and just explode them eventually

[burnt tapir]

brittle >>> rending

[upper galleon]

Or your team kills them

[lyric burrow]

oh im running nexus/blazing forgot about rending lol

[upper galleon]

Yee i feel nexus blazing got left in the dust

[lyric burrow]

which is why i use mk4 DS with it

i find its still fine but need to be able to deal with armor

i think selfish in war also still vouches really hard for it

[teal needle]

I still like blazing but swapped from nexus to flurry. Blazing just makes it so you don't have to follow up blast like... 10% of the time 🤷

Rending Brittle is probably better but imagine trusting your teammates

[lyric burrow]

im mostly bringing it to help with horde clear now that im running mk4 dueling sword and want to keep trauma for the ranged help that i cant do with purg

so blazing void/AB is my main horde clear and then BB and Mk 4 DS for single target

which works very well

[ebon jolt]

What perks do people run on their surge staff?

[lyric burrow]

er not wildfire

AB

[ebon jolt]

Trying to decide what to roll.

[formal acorn]

Can someone Please tell me what a warp charge is??

I never remember being told

[teal needle]

Left keystone, the purple skill

[lyric burrow]

carapace/crit chance

[formal acorn]

I don't see anything explaining to me in my skill tree what is is

[lyric burrow]

maniac as well

if you dont want crit chance

[formal acorn]

That's warp siphon

OHHH o see

[lyric burrow]

that allows you to get warp charges

[teal needle]

Yes, that and the nodes below it explains what they do

[upper galleon]

blazing without nexus sounds way too unreliable

[formal acorn]

Inner tranquility seems nice

[scarlet timber]

@spice veldt hey dude

I got question you know the values for mk ii and mkv

They are the same before and after patch right ?

[formal acorn]

What about soulblaze?

[teal needle]

Its a small damage over time effect. 3-4 stacks don't do much but it gets more effective with more. The ability that gives soulblaze for killing elites is recommended, but wildfire is not

[lyric burrow]

yeah i run combustion but not wildfire

spec into crits so i can do AB a bunch too

lots of soulblaze lol

[teal needle]

Some people say wildfire does something noticeable but i sure as hell can't tell

[north cradle]

Should I have Rampage or Savage Sweep on my chainsword, in addition to Bloodletter?

[formal acorn]

@teal needle what ability gives it? Can't seem to find it.

[north cradle]

It's at the top of the Psyker tree, lemme find it

[formal acorn]

I see the wildfire perk

[north cradle]

The Talent Formerly Known as Wrack And Ruin

[formal acorn]

Oh shoot I'm not even speced into that.

[north cradle]

Apparently it's good

[formal acorn]

Ya I might need to. I have a spare point anyways. And how is brain rupture?

I went down assail and never thought of trying anything else since I like it so much

[north cradle]

I find it saddening compared to the pre-patch version but maybe I'm just not spec'd into it properly

[formal acorn]

I just started playing with release on Xbox so I don't know much.

[lyric burrow]

i think its fine

its significantly worse than assail

but its still good

does its job

[formal acorn]

Ok cool. I just played my first heresy mission and my GOD was it stressful

[thorn cedar]

pretty much the way to go if youre gonna do DD

[formal acorn]

I feel like we would've died if I didn't have assail

[north cradle]

It doesn't kill Dreg Gunners from zero anymore, which makes me sad

[thorn cedar]

yea you need just a touch of extra warp damage for that

[formal acorn]

How is the zealot class? Might want to do him next after this.

[thorn cedar]

zealot is great if youre addicted to speed

which i most certainly am

[lyric burrow]

i was at least able to complete auric malestrom missions with it so its not unusable as a baseline

zealot feels really good this patch

non stop ults lol

thats kinda everyone

but his are very good as well and he can really get use out of crits

[formal acorn]

We had one last game and he was going insane with a flamethrower and a cross of some kind. Only reason we didn't lose was because of him.

[north cradle]

Empowered Psionics makes Brain Rupture play much better, but I hate that Overpowering Souls only works on Elite kills and not Specialist kills

[teal needle]

Zealot does not have a cartoonish shrill German accent so points deducted for that. It does have a goofy hammed up fem voice that is clearly making fun if itself so it's still okay

[north cradle]

Are you talking about the Scottish one

[light dust]

I can't help but feel that empowered psionics would benefit more from assail, considering it gets more kills in a shorter amount of time

[lyric burrow]

EP with assail is absurd yeah

otherway around ig

[north cradle]

It does, but Assail lacks range and burst damage compared to an Empowered Brain Rupture

[burnt tapir]

BB is if you need a high damage armor agnostic attack with infinite range

[north cradle]

BB also has the benefit of locking on to a target if you manage to wave your mouse over their hitbox

[burnt tapir]

Assasil if you clearing soft targets at flexible range

[light dust]

I suppose that shriek + passive that makes rupture faster + EP = best loadout?

[burnt tapir]

different jobs imo

[light dust]

Will have to mess around with a few things once I get that far

[spice veldt]

iirc they got buffed than prepatch since they were equivalent to the sweeping attacks on the force swords

[north cradle]

Also, Brain Rupture procs True Aim stacks twice on non-Ogryns

[slate oasis]

I find BB slightly frustrating now because I used to use Kinetic Barrage which didn't consume any warp stacks, but now you can't avoid consuming them with warp siphon

[north cradle]

Yeahhh

[teal needle]

I haven't even tried damage shriek yet, i normally at least try everything in psykanium but it seems so bad on paper

Ulting to do half a poxwalkers health in damage

I guess warp damage multipliers might get it high enough to actually be able to kill a walker 🤔

[feral verge]

yeah consuming warp charges on ult is annoying

[nocturne badge]

what's the meta on trauma staffs?

[ornate hamlet]

What’s good guys, I’m looking for a group to help me with the Malleus Monstronum and warp battery penance, been at it for 2 days now and it’s driving me crazy, would deeply appreciate some help 🙏🏼 I’m on Xbox but I believe we can still add each other

[slate oasis]

pretty sure it's rending shockwave + warp flurry

[ivory kestrel]

What perks do people lean into on their curios?

[nocturne badge]

i heard that transfer peril procs on right click crits for trauma? is that right?

[abstract kestrel]

Testicular torsion %

[spice veldt]

it procs on weakspots, and trauma's RMB is an explosion that can't hit weakspots

crits =/= weakspots

[nocturne badge]

that's what i thought, but i didn't have the chance to test it

[analog agate]

Blaze/nexus with crit chance/flak or unarmored. Flurry/rending is another way to go

[spice veldt]

top 10 most intuitive things -- a blessing that straight up does not work on the main firing mode of a weapon

[verbal bear]

Is this the average heresy experience, damnation is easier I stg

[teal needle]

Flurry rending rn

[lyric burrow]

yeah heresy is in a weird spot

although so is auric maelstrom cause you get level 30s all the time lol

there not always underprepared but on average they are

[ornate hamlet]

Welp

[nocturne badge]

i'm running 1 wound/hp/toughness with 3x sniper resist 3x ability regen, 1x toughness 1xhp 1x stam regen

[spice veldt]

some brain rupture stuff

[nocturne badge]

tho i think i wanna swap out my ability regen for gunner resist at this point since i don't find myself needing to ult as much

[lethal lagoon]

1 wound, HP, toughness, is technically the mathmatically correct choice, but having extra wounds when you are the last person alive most of the time is just sadge.

[spice veldt]

usually a good idea to take at least one hp curio

[nocturne badge]

just be the first one down ez

[spice veldt]

I personally run a full toughness greed build

[lethal lagoon]

I do 2 toughness, 1 hp, all with the 5% toughness perk.

[nocturne badge]

second wound curio also helps hedge against pox bursters/corruption in general

and flames

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like if there's ever a scenario where I need an extra wound, it's doomed anyways.

[lyric burrow]

I should have saved that crusher clip so i could post it whenever you talk about running only toughness lol

[spice veldt]

you motherfucker

[lyric burrow]

Wow that was instant

[spice veldt]

yeah i'm watching

mr yoshi

[lyric burrow]

Tbf i think its hard to avoid the one-shot now

[spice veldt]

yeah, i'm not sure if psyker can even tank one with full hp stacking

if they still deal 260 damage, then probably

[lethal lagoon]

In what scenario are you a psyker tanking a crusher shot and it's not already a wipe?

[lyric burrow]

Even my zealot cant tank one

[spice veldt]

a bunch of scenarios

[lyric burrow]

Although im running stam

[spice veldt]

assuming that i'm not the only antiarmour on the team

[lyric burrow]

After revives

[lethal lagoon]

I can't imagine any that don't involve weed or alcohol.

[spice veldt]

😔 bad dodge management from me

i'm not used to having to actually worry about dodges after 10 years on the force swords

[lyric burrow]

What infinite dodges does to a man

[teal needle]

If i see a crusher approaching mid overhead i am a) spamming trauma at my feet and b) bawling like a baby

[lyric burrow]

Arcos spacebar probably got no paint left on it

[nocturne badge]

man that talent that spreads fire on elite kill is kinda dooky, the radius is like 4 meters

[spice veldt]

my shift key 😎

[lyric burrow]

Oh you changed it

[lethal lagoon]

Does anything other the bosses die slow enough for fire to matter? Maybe crushers, but fire does nothing to them lmao.

[spice veldt]

4 meters, though that's quite sizeable

[spice veldt]

perilous combustion + uncanny strike

[lyric burrow]

When theres 50 elites it spreads well

[spice veldt]

soulblaze (and DoTs in general) inherits the blessings on your active weapon

[lethal lagoon]

That doesn't sound intentional.

[spice veldt]

nope

[teal needle]

In my exp on aurics there are 9000000 mobs within 2 meters of most elites tho

[spice veldt]

but it works

it just works

[lyric burrow]

Its been in forever

[spice veldt]

god bless america

[lethal lagoon]

I hate using stuff that will eventually be patched even if it's been a year lmao

[spice veldt]

i love abusing shit like that

I jumped onto bolter vet 2 months before the skill tree rework

[nocturne badge]

patiently waiting for the voidstrike to be nerfed

[limber heath]

yea it'll usually chain reaction but honestly don't know if it gets much value outside of maybe hi int heresy at the minimum

[thorn cedar]

perilous combustion is just goofy af rn

it used to be sort of annoying to tempo my BB's to actually proc WnR

[limber heath]

like genuinely not enough enemies spawn below that :(

[thorn cedar]

now you just have to kill one of these fkers by any means

[olive ember]

Bolter vet didn’t teach him anything

Unbelievable

[spice veldt]

tfw you remove the two downsides of Wrack & Ruin

• Being attached to Brain Burst
• Competing with Warp Unleashed

god bless america

[thorn cedar]

seriously tho

[olive ember]

I love freedom

[brave fiber]

what changes should I make to this?

[lyric burrow]

Now we just need a wildfire buff and we are truly gaming

For psyker maybe unyielding from flak

[tired jackal]

where is the chaos spawns weakspot? noob question

[nocturne badge]

i like bloodletter personally instead of devastating strikes

[lyric burrow]

Head

[thorn cedar]

i dont think you need manaic damage anymore

[teal needle]

Idk if you should use cadia gear, i hear it's really hard to get replacement parts

[spice veldt]

this thingy

[lyric burrow]

Even without special spam?

[spice veldt]

it looks like it has armour on it, but it counts as unyielding

[thorn cedar]

i mean if you wanna bonk it down i guess that's a choice but

you used to need +Manaic and Warp Charges + Warp Unleashed to 1hk a Mutant

now you just need a Chain Sword

[tired jackal]

@spice veldt is that the "front" or "back" of it

[lyric burrow]

I just dont trust chainsword special to not get me hit

[spice veldt]

that's the front

[tired jackal]

kk thx

[lethal lagoon]

They mess up so many things, but they do some stuff like hitboxes so fucking well. I really don't know how to think about these devs lmao.

[spice veldt]

the back has no weakspots

[thorn cedar]

i pair CSword with Purgatus

[spice veldt]

but for some reason, its asscheeks have a higher hitzone damage multiplier

I'm not kidding

[thorn cedar]

usually it's only maniacs that can even break through ,if at all

[spice veldt]

attack his ass if you want to deal more damage whenever you're behind a chaos spawn

[thorn cedar]

yall aint lived til u slapped dem chaos cheeks

[lyric burrow]

Arco tf kinda testing you doing

[lethal lagoon]

Is it still the same mod to spawn bosses in the pysch?

[spice veldt]

shut up

[thorn cedar]

gotta get deep up in that nurgle-y cloaca

[ebon jolt]

Is anyone else having issues differentiating the destiny target and targets with soulblaze?

[thorn cedar]

yes

fkn yes

[spice veldt]

my graphics are peepee poopoo so I always have some trouble

[lyric burrow]

Nobody tell him about ogryn club special

[spice veldt]

and marked targets occasionally do not glow

on the plus side, Soulblaze on a marked target continuously resets the timer on your DD stacks

[teal needle]

Doing mv testing on monster asses, what is this monster hunter

[spice veldt]

this is penetration testing

[thorn cedar]

its very important

[lyric burrow]

This is really why we were given meat grinder

[untold vault]

Rolled a better one. Maniacs, Flak or Unyielding in that slot?

[teal needle]

I like unyielding since bosses are just about the only thing it doesn't one shot on a crit but test in the psyk if maniacs maes a difference killing them with non crits

[untold vault]

Ty

Still dont have warp nexus...

[teal needle]

[strong gulch]

Taking forever to complete. 😩

[full panther]

Can assail crit?

[feral verge]

yes

[blissful ore]

I've wasted 10k plasteel looking for this

[full panther]

[spice veldt]

assail damage table

truly one of the blitzes of all time

[full panther]

can't decide if I like Seer's Presence or Presience more for auras

[spice veldt]

presience lets me avoid Mind in Motion so I go through Malefic -> Presience

[elder rain]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[cyan notch]

texture quality: just fuck my shit up

[full panther]

Seer's lets me grab One with the Warp for more toughness DR which is nice

but Presience gives me Anticipation for better dodge spam 🤔

[full panther]

why would you avoid that?

[cyan notch]

his mind does not move

[spice veldt]

cuz mind in motion is basically useless

you can just dodge while quelling

why does Assail supposedly have 100 base damage if it's just going to deal >100% damage for every armour type except carapace

wtf

[cyan notch]

doesnt plogryn ass also have higher hitzones

[spice veldt]

they really do not want you to benefit from rending that much with Assail

[lyric burrow]

Arco whats your fps with that out of curiosity

[spice veldt]

uhhhhhh

i can keep a semi-stable 60 fps

at least, I don't notice any hard frame drops assuming that the memory leak isn't active

[lyric burrow]

Ive tried lowering everything(not resolution) but dont see a huge difference in fps actually so i was curious

[spice veldt]

I have steam overlay disabled for my frames, so I don't look at it

yeah, most stuff you can change is prob just GPU stuff

and the game is hard on your CPU

[cyan notch]

whats your laptop gpu

[spice veldt]

i do it to edge out just a little bit more of power and to generate less heat cuz ultrathin laptop gaming

[woven pumice]

are mutants maniac or unyielding

[spice veldt]

RTX 3050ti

Maniac

[lyric burrow]

Like im getting fine fps it seems like holding 144 is mad hard in this game

No matter what

Assuming your res isnt mad low

[cyan notch]

i have 3060 mobile and its pretty decent 60fps with dlss

[spice veldt]

yeah, I've got it set to ultra performance and it's doing pretty well

it's the 35w version of the 3050ti iirc

[cyan notch]

oof

[lyric burrow]

35?????

Damn

Laptop gpus built different

My gpu pulls over 35 idle

[spice veldt]

damn

[thorn cedar]

i mean quite literally yes they are built different

[lyric burrow]

Yeah i just forgot lol

[spice veldt]

my entire laptop takes like ~60w while playing darktide

[lyric burrow]

My pc is probably pulling like 600ish

500ish i should say

Actually

[cyan notch]

my 3060 mobile is like 105w

[lyric burrow]

Hard to say for sure

[cyan notch]

that 3050ti is a really stripped down version

[lyric burrow]

3050ti is actually better than i expected given your graphics

Although cpu/ram might be a bottleneck

[spice veldt]

yeah, ryzen 5800u

and wattage/form factor

[lyric burrow]

Yeah ik laptop gpus arent as powerful

Maybe ill try turning on whatever amds version of dlss is i forget the name

Depending on how much it messes with visuals

I want all the frames

[thorn cedar]

ill just keep on keepin' on with my 1080Ti lol

[lyric burrow]

1080ti is a good card

[thorn cedar]

so good

its hard to replace

she my baby

[lyric burrow]

So far my 7900xt has served me very well although its new so it better

[steel flame]

IMPERIUM! OPEN UP! WE ARE HERE TO COLLECT YOUR FRAME TAXES

[dapper flax]

ello , what would y'all recommend for this ? wanna try to get warp nexus iv but i'm not sure if the perks are what i should be using

ignore that it looks like a surge staff , was messin' with a mod

[strong gulch]

I completely forgot that I had a blitz. 🙃

[fresh reef]

why are all steam forum users have takes this bad? are they stupid?

[spice veldt]

😔

[feral verge]

warp nexus 4, flak damage over weakspot damage

[dapper flax]

i was thinking flak but wasn't sure about it over cara , but thanks

[spice veldt]

relevant stats for Assail if you ever need to pull it out in an argument

[thorn cedar]

yes welcome to the general public

this was the same shit with power sword of yore

[fresh reef]

appreciate it, but I'll stick to this image instead

[spice veldt]

(note the rather non-inconspicuous 250 base damage to Maniac)

[digital narwhal]

Disrupt Destiny should apply to Poxwalkers n’ Groaners too.
Also, having more than one highlighted enemy at a time would be nice.

[thorn cedar]

I think it needs more range

[strong gulch]

Perk wise keep elite.

The other could be crit chance or flak. There's even a case of carapce, but I'd choose the other before that one.

[thorn cedar]

Also sometimes I swear it picks someone super inconspicuous and I'm left looking around a room full of dudes but seemingly nobody has the blue tone

[spice veldt]

it's a vstrike so I'd slap Surge onto it

[thorn cedar]

Never finding the target til it runs out

Feels bad

'Forced' to take the node that doubles the time frame on the stacks

[digital narwhal]

Like, 35 metres instead of 25?

[thorn cedar]

40m imo

give it the volley fire distance

[digital narwhal]

True

[thorn cedar]

sometimes you ARE in engagement and yet nothing is lighting up

cause theyre all getting dropped before they reach your range

[strong gulch]

Ableism isn't cool.

[dapper flax]

Just realized I'm too poor on plasteel to even change a perk rn lmao , thanks for the suggestions

will slap flak on there once I'm able tho

[kind jay]

does this mean you can swap between weapon/blitz and fire them off faster like qq swapping?

[dapper flax]

don't got nexus 4 on vstrike yet sadly so that'll be in a lil while

[spice veldt]

ye

[kind jay]

wake up babe new assail strat dropped

[thorn cedar]

but like

you lose all control

so its only great against small groups or waves of trash

[kind jay]

you're a psyker you're already out of control

[woven cedar]

is this a good roll from melk

[kind jay]

boom checkmate

[thorn cedar]

trunuf

[feral verge]

yes

[digital narwhal]

Yes

Perks should go to Flak + Unarmoured or Flak + Maniac iirc

[untold vault]

Wauw

Honestly pretty good

[woven cedar]

bastard finally gave me something good

[untold vault]

You dont even need to touch the blessings really

[woven cedar]

does the reduced charge time from flurry reduce the stacks given by shockwave?

[spice veldt]

nay

[woven cedar]

oh shit

[raw oriole]

Source?

[spice veldt]

me

[pine nova]

OH HELLO SIR, NICE SHOP YOU GOT

[raw oriole]

All seriousness ty for info brotha

[spice veldt]

no worries; I decided record it because there are a scary amount of people who make the "100 base damage" argument

[cyan notch]

i knew that shit was fake the moment i saw it

[dim grotto]

I just want a good, high ammo capacity shredder

[spice veldt]

if it's actually 100 base damage, then that means it has 250% armour damage mods against unarmoured and maniac enemies for some reason

(in which case, the question is WHY)

[raw oriole]

You uhhh didn't happen to test the PE damage did you? lol

[spice veldt]

nah

but i'll check after seeing what the base damage actually is with rending

it keeps fucking critting

[fair zephyr]

I found a decent one

[warm gyro]

sometimes when i use smite, it doesnt build peril. why is that?

[spice veldt]

there's a bug with Empowered Psionics that makes smite cost no peril

[warm gyro]

ok so it is a bug. i could not figure it out lol. i was like combing my skill tree

[spice veldt]

hmm, Assail has 250 base damage i'm pretty sure

with 100% rending, I'm dealing 254 damage, and the math works out if I set 250 as the base damage

[spice veldt]

Assail has 250 base damage and deals 330 base damage with Empowered Psionics
So EP adds 1.32x damage

[sacred pier]

is there any way to tell what my crit chance is?

[feral verge]

base crit rate is 5%

after that, just add up all the crit chance perks/feats/blessings you have selected

[grim coral]

hey how good is stealth Psyker?

[brazen warren]

what is stealth psyker, they do not get stealth

[lyric burrow]

I dont advise crouch walking everywhere

[grim coral]

awww

[lyric burrow]

You can try it

Team might get ahead tho lol

[grim coral]

ok ill play stealth ogryn instead

[clear heath]

wtf fatshark description lying again?

[feral verge]

or is arco lying

[clear heath]

i trust the average discord member more than fatshark descriptions tbh

[lyric burrow]

Can test easy enough

[restive slate]

Is it bad if I'm starting not to like Psyker shield?

[obtuse moth]

or the 100 damage is before weakspot multiplier?

regardless its semantics anyway at this point

[clear heath]

it's doing 250 bodyshot against groaners

[obtuse moth]

they already tested, thats not the problem

[blazing island]

these are both at melk. are either good? good enough to buy?

[obtuse moth]

ye but assail does the same damage for white numbers and orange numbers, so it either always does weakspot or has zero weakspot multiplier

[clear heath]

no it doesn't

the headshot just did more

[obtuse moth]

hmm and it wasnt a yellow?

[clear heath]

orange

i'll record

[obtuse moth]

and you dont have any other modifiers that can affect it like peril damage or crit stacking warp damage etc

[azure karma]

can purgatos crit

[azure karma]

also whats bis blessing for it

[clear heath]

this is the full skill tree

[obtuse moth]

ypou right i just tested

[obtuse moth]

yes and when you do it applies two stacks of burning instead of 1

[azure karma]

what blessings?

[obtuse moth]

nexus flurry

[azure karma]

o