psyker-class

[woven pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-mary-poppins-guardians-of-the-galaxy-yondu-gif-15498979

[fluid terrace]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-zHvAeWLBQ

[autumn whale]

Smite Psyker my beloved.

[fluid terrace]

once i get a good blade and my kits all nice and upgraded, i might level up zealor or ogryn next

[fluid terrace]

yeah it's great

[autumn whale]

Having unlimited power has saved many a game

[zinc phoenix]

Psyke

[unreal tapir]

Does Psyker have a way to melt monstrosities like vet? It’s the only issue I ever run into soloqueue. I can kill anything else before it’s a threat for my team but it’s a 50/50 if they understand how to hold the block button and use their dodge. Then I’m sat here slashing at a monstrosity for 3 minutes alone

[floral cape]

what blessings for voidstrike's good?

[zinc phoenix]

Tldr not really

[woven pumice]

brain burst until I burst, vent, then brain burst some more

[zinc phoenix]

The damage output is still not great

[woven pumice]

pretty decent chunk with each cast

[zinc phoenix]

And you want to vent the teeniest amount to maintain that peril boost to damage trait

[viral solstice]

if ur good with a vraks 3 u can do it but ppl not investing the effort to run gun psyker just for that

[zinc phoenix]

But compared to gunlugger or vet it is slow

Or thammer zealot’s bop

[woven pumice]

haven't played anything but psyker 👴

[viral solstice]

something like this

[zinc phoenix]

Plasma vet can hit the boop button on bon hard

[viral solstice]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1x29RbMRM8ctmA/d1337ApHQtpc?invite=cr-MSxOTFAsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[unreal tapir]

I love psyker but I kind of miss old vet. Kill anything before my team can find a way to die to it

[zinc phoenix]

Vraks 3 is beast on psyker it true

[woven pumice]

brain bursting and dodge sliding just doesn't get old for me

[viral solstice]

but thats pretty specialised

[zinc phoenix]

Mid line vet is crazy good. Strong melee, strong gunplay, strong team support

[viral solstice]

and u need scriers, finesse shit, etc

but tbf most vets arent dropping monstros rn so

[zinc phoenix]

BB with SG holy cow

[rough lake]

does disrupt destiny work?

[zinc phoenix]

Yea but it’s a lot of work

You have to really want it

And the higher difficulty the better

On Damnation+ it kicks off constantly

On malice you’re lucky to see one blue guy

Empower or warp charge are a lot less work

But aren’t as good for generating massive crits

[rough lake]

because in the training area i cant see the mark

[zinc phoenix]

Doesn’t work there

Training area is bad in general for stuff

[rough lake]

ah ok thx

[zinc phoenix]

Take everything said about stuff tested there with a grain of salt because a lot doesn’t work in that stupid room

[tough stump]

i love

high intensity

spawn boss with 5 gunner around location with no cover

[fluid terrace]

i know right

i love gunnner spam

i think it was a game last night where they literally set u pa 20 man gunner firing squad

[zinc phoenix]

D O M E

warp charge powered dome spam is a gateway to many powers some consider to be unnatural

[azure karma]

did ou parry the ogryn?

[plucky flax]

Top 1% auric maelstrom psyker gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv82gJBhZyo

[azure karma]

whats with the dodging?

[plucky flax]

Huh what do you mean?

[azure karma]

do you h ave unlimited dodges?

and why do you block while dodging

[brave turret]

A single kick from aflamer did half my health in

[plucky flax]

No I have 5 dodges on sword and it's good habit to just block because you never know what's gonna hit you.

You don't have to block of course if you don't want to.

[brave turret]

Damm difficulty is just annoying

[azure karma]

thats a good video

[keen harbor]

game lags a bit on hi-int, so sometimes those i-frames from dodge don't work

[azure karma]

ive played since day one but ive never used dodges like that

[zinc phoenix]

Idk how people stay awake while playing assail tbh

But nicely played!

[plucky flax]

Yeah normally I fall asleep but it was a pretty tough game (hard modifier + teammates were caught by themselves a fair bit). The zealot did a lot of work peeling.

[azure karma]

peeling what, and how do you enable damage numbers?

i just came back after like 6 months lol

[plucky flax]

Damage number is a mod. Peeling as in taking the aggro away, kiting, not letting everything bunch up and overwhelm us.

When there are a bazillion crushers and bulwarks.

[analog agate]

Went back to doing blaze trauma with bb with a build very close to being’s build. Assail is fun and overturned, but blaze trauma is definitely the build you take to not lose

[plucky flax]

Yeah imo melee only modifier blaze trauma is stronger.

Because big stagger and big damage to flak+carapace.

[zinc phoenix]

I’m tempted to go full wack and try Scriers gaze trauma 😂

[azure karma]

i dont know that build

[unreal tapir]

i know void staff has bigger numbers than surge but is it actually higher dps? surge charges so much faster

[zinc phoenix]

Yes

[azure karma]

blaze sword trauma abiity?

[plucky flax]

Void when surge procs can 1 shot crusher.

[analog agate]

Blazing spirit/warp nexus on trauma staff. Mostly left side of skill tree. The classic, essentially. Now that we have wrack n ruin, wildfire, tranquility, and warp unleashed all in one. Build is unstoppable

But assail is still stupid fun. But if you need to carry shitty teammates, I go with blaze trauma build now

[magic whale]

is this melk sword any good?

I haven't really used force swords before and I just got to level 30

[plucky flax]

You can use itfor now but try to find one with better stats spread. Everything high with mobility 50 is enough.

For that sword you can change executor to slaughterer and block efficiency to maniac would be my recommendation.

[magic whale]

I've just been looking through his limited shop from time to time

I'm hoping for a nice dueling sword

[mortal pendant]

[unreal tapir]

does surge just make your crits hit twice?

[fierce crest]

crit is rolled on cast not on hit

[unreal tapir]

oh

[fierce crest]

so if it procs, you cast twice

[unreal tapir]

thats cool

[fierce crest]

so you can guarantee it with True Aim

[plucky flax]

Yo that's the same as my staff. Crit chance maniac my homie.

[paper loom]

Is there a site that shows optimal perks and blessings for weapons?

[fierce crest]

discord.gg

[paper loom]

Ah

[tough stump]

im taking break

carried 2 rank 10 player

on heresy

what a experience

[fierce crest]

this is why you should play auric

[tough stump]

im rank 20

[paper loom]

In that case what's optimal for a force sword would anyone know? I got a blue 380 one with deflect blessing

[fierce crest]

deflect is good utility

[paper loom]

I put crit chance and stam on it

[fierce crest]

well

its not those

[paper loom]

I thought stam helped the deflect

[fierce crest]

it does

but the best defense is a good offense

[paper loom]

So not crit chance?

[fierce crest]

the perk is just a bit low

[paper loom]

Ah ok

[fierce crest]

usually best perks are 25% damage to a specific health type

[paper loom]

I'm still collecting the blessings bit not sure what to get

[fierce crest]

usually maniac or flak armor

unyielding can be good

[empty onyx]

I'm so sad. My duelling sword is 34(!) damage off two-shotting crushers (with one crit). 😦

[fierce crest]

carapace can be good

[whole oxide]

if you're specifically building for synergy with various crit traits in the trait-tree, maybe, but generally force-swords want +maniac and then either flak or unyielding

although, right now everyone's still working out how everything works exactly after the patch, so, there isn't really a definitive answer yet for "this is the best"

[fierce crest]

you need hella crit synergy for 4% chance to be competetive with 25% damage

[ornate hamlet]

new surge staff is so insaneeeeeeeeee

actually bonkers

it just deletes any elite that comes within distance of you

[empty onyx]

What's the crit multiplier? 1.5?

[whole oxide]

it varies by weapon

[fierce crest]

and by attack

and by finesse stat

[unreal tapir]

sounds a bit overcomplicated

nothing like needing a degree in darktide stats to figure out how to optimize your weapon

[quasi pier]

Finding a good game in auric is miserable right now

[plucky flax]

Play assail and left click to win.

[ornate hamlet]

its better than before the class reworks

each class has considerably more clutch/carry potential now

so its easier to carry bad teammates imo

[plucky flax]

I think vet is worse to carry now.

RIP sustain fire bolter.

[whole oxide]

yeah, but, hello stealth rezzes

[ornate hamlet]

infinite sniper ammo + stealth res

is broken lmfao

and you can even get 2 charges of stealth res so u can back to back rez 3 people at once

[unreal tapir]

xd i was playing vet with bolter before the update

[empty onyx]

Other question: Does the penetration stat still have any relevance if you're currently at 100+% Rending?

[quasi pier]

I was winning more before the update personally

Maybe bad luck

[plucky flax]

But before the update a good bolter vet just solo the game and 3 other guys can afk.

No risky situation will ever arise.

[unreal tapir]

yea

[plucky flax]

OP pinning fire + sustain fire.

[unreal tapir]

now i actually need my team to help me kill the monstrosity

[ornate hamlet]

ive been running stealth sniper vet, stealth assassin zealot, and surge+dagger elite hunter psyker since the update

i lov them sm

[plucky flax]

Stealth knife zealot seems really strong idk that build.

I've been running new bm antax it's good too.

[ornate hamlet]

dagger and tactical axe are so good

especially when you get ignore hit mass blessing for axes

[left turtle]

im enjoying the dueling sword rn, but i havent tried every melee yet

[whole oxide]

devilclaw IV is pretty fun atm

[left turtle]

i like the idea of the force sword but i dont like that shoving builds peril

[plucky flax]

Wait it doesn't? D:

Oh you mean the push attack.

[ornate hamlet]

you can hold block and spam lmb and it perma staggers everything in melee range

[plucky flax]

But just shoving by itself doesn't.

[left turtle]

yeah

[plucky flax]

The push attack sucks it only shove 1 target. Idk if they changed it.

I rarely ever use it.

[left turtle]

it hits a couple, its just a VERY small cone

[ornate hamlet]

ye its much better to just tap the first part of the shove that does a mini stagger

[unreal tapir]

do disrupt destiny stacks decay individually?

[ornate hamlet]

mk4 force sword has such an amazing combo with its poke attacks

they do so much weakspot damage

[reef island]

what to change on this?

[left turtle]

so im a pretty fresh psyker, level 21 right now, im genuinely suprised at how many psykers i see detonating themselves

[ornate hamlet]

sustained fire for charge reduction

[fluid terrace]

i just got fucking juggled by three pox bursters

what is my luck

[ornate hamlet]

before the update you could use your ult to cleanse your peril even if u hit 100

[reef island]

psykers only ability used to be the 50% peril vent, its hard to adjust to the new options

[ornate hamlet]

so ppl are still used to it

[reef island]

yee I blow myself up waaaaaay too often lmao

[left turtle]

im not using any sort of vent, i just relax when i reach 100

im using BB and the Bubble shield

[reef island]

you dont get time to relax on damnnation and heresy

[plucky flax]

Sustained fire to surge, I like maniac to kill specials faster but flak can work too.

[left turtle]

By relax i mean i switch to my sword

[fluid terrace]

i am still used to pressing f to vent so i just place sheilds down at random

[ornate hamlet]

if theres 50 trillion elites that need killing, sometimes u gotta go ham with the peril use

and ppl are used to having that last resort button to vent it

[loud girder]

just so i understand this right
my items are not shared between characters, but my bank is?

[plucky flax]

I did a 0 damage taken high intensity earlier today with assail. It's just relax gaming.

[loud girder]

is that how it works?

[golden frigate]

once I hit 100 peril I usually go to my favourite pub, grab a good pint and chat with my mates; then, back to killing heretics

[fluid terrace]

yes

it wouldn't make sense for the veteran to have a psyker staff

[loud girder]

curios

[fluid terrace]

im not sure

[reef island]

I wish my side psyker could have my main psykers stuff though

[fluid terrace]

i wouldn't think so

[left turtle]

i hit 100 peril and if my team has created space for me, i start venting, if not, i switch to the sword and start swinging until it vents itsself

[fluid terrace]

your sidker?

[golden frigate]

every equippable thing is char only, blessings and balance are account wide

so if you earn a blessing for revolver on your zealot, you can use it on your psyker, but you can not equip the same weapon/curio/cosmetic (apart from isignia and frames)

[loud girder]

uh question
if im lvl 28 on my ogryn and i craft something, is it not max level potential because i need to be 30 first?

or does it make no difference?

[calm lotus]

i seem to be becoming an assail addict someone give me some recommendations of things to pair while i level my psyker

[golden frigate]

it makes a difference, wait for 30 before gambling

[calm lotus]

i dont want to end up not having to choose my weapons because assail does it all

[golden frigate]

surge staff and duelling mk iv

for when enemies are hidden/too close to you

[calm lotus]

what blitz?

[golden frigate]

oh I thought you were talking about complementing assail

[reef island]

whats the max % toughness you can get as main stat on curio?

[calm lotus]

nah

[fluid terrace]

dueling sword is so good

[calm lotus]

avoiding it

[fluid terrace]

it's fun

[left turtle]

17 i believe

[reef island]

oh nice

[calm lotus]

yeah i had been playing with the dueling swords a bit

[golden frigate]

if you dont want that go trauma, any melee, and BB/smite

[calm lotus]

alright

[reef island]

oh man mk4 dueling sword as a saltzpyre main is delicious

[left turtle]

im actively avoiding assail cause i know its gonna get smacked hard by the nerfbat here soon

[golden frigate]

17%

[calm lotus]

maybe something like bb, illsi and trauma?

[zinc phoenix]

I’m avoiding assail because it bores me to death

[left turtle]

also that

its a very boring playstyle

[golden frigate]

if it sounds fun to you, it's best in slot

[calm lotus]

true

[zinc phoenix]

“Stand still blasting out aim assist knives”

😴

[calm lotus]

just trying to figure out what to play around with while levelling

[zinc phoenix]

Go Scrier gaze melee psyker

It big balls time

[left turtle]

Im running BB with the shield bubble

and the middle keystone

[golden frigate]

and then blow up charging your illisi and forgetting about your current peril

[left turtle]

Duel sword/Purgatus staff

[calm lotus]

too much thought for levelling my psyker

[plucky flax]

Tbh when levelling just use assail and nothing else. Xd

[calm lotus]

trying to avoid that

what brain burst upgrade nodes do i want?

[left turtle]

i run Kinetic resonance

[calm lotus]

skipping flayer?

[left turtle]

can do some serious fuckign damage to a Monster, and if a pack of mauler/rager/ogryns show up, you can quickly burst alot of them before they can fuck you

im gonna be honest with you homie

i thought kinetic resonance locked out flayer, i didnt even pay attention
(brb while i move a talent over)

[calm lotus]

also which of the early peril nodes might i want?

i have minimal knowledge on peril and quelling

[left turtle]

thats what ive done but ive never struggled with managing peril

[plucky flax]

Not taking warp kill generate toughness.

[left turtle]

but i dont edge myself. so.

[calm lotus]

yeah that ive taken

i have heard thats good

is battle meditation worth?

[left turtle]

i mean so far im running heresy smoothly at level 22 without it.

[calm lotus]

oh and yknow what i think instead of trauma and illsi ill go purgatus and a duelling sword

[plucky flax]

Fair enough but it's the strongest toughness regen talent by far for psyker.

[left turtle]

i might experiment with it to see

im not sure what counts as a warp attack though

[plucky flax]

All your attack with staff, blitz, and soul blaze.

Special attacks from force swords are also warp attack.

[left turtle]

soulblaze. like, the fire from Perilous combustion/wildfire?

[cobalt mauve]

for assail do i go down the middle to seer then left to shriek?

new player

[plucky flax]

Yeah or the fire from blaze trauma / purga staff.

[left turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-anime-personabeys-personabey-realization-gif-25244102

[golden frigate]

if it blue, it do

[left turtle]

i use the blaze staff...Excuse me while i move a talent over again

[cobalt mauve]

[calm lotus]

hmm still not sure on battle meditation

[left turtle]

Purgatus staff* not blaze staff

[plucky flax]

What's the description?

[left turtle]

blaze staff poopie

[plucky flax]

For battle meditation

[calm lotus]

chance to quell on kill

[fresh reef]

praying that voidstrike gets nerfed soon, getting really sick of people running the broken stuff and then dying because they have zero awareness

[calm lotus]

10% both

[whole oxide]

i mean, this has been a debate since the game came out, but, while warp absorption can theoretically generate much much more toughness, in practice quietitude is more useful

[left turtle]

!0% chance to quell on kill

[golden frigate]

no u

[plucky flax]

If you struggle with peril then yeah it's really good.

What staff are you using?

[whole oxide]

because generating 30% toughness when you really really need it is better than generating 300% when you don't

[calm lotus]

gonna go purgatus with a duelling sword

and bb

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah on purga run it for sure.

You can chain a lot of flame together without break to quell.

[calm lotus]

alright

yeah that makes sense

then thisll sort me for now

[plucky flax]

Trust me guys I'm top 1% psyker.

[spare owl]

👀

[left turtle]

if youre new to using BB btw, keep in mind, once you start channeling it on something, you dont have to maintain LOS

[calm lotus]

right

it took me a bit when i first tried psyker to get a hang of bb

[left turtle]

Oh a sniper
Anuerysm time

[calm lotus]

still havent fully really

[cobalt mauve]

what are the require talents for assail builds?

[woven pumice]

can get quite some distance by dodging into sliding while channeling bb

[left turtle]

assail. its all it needs to completely make a joke of the game

[woven pumice]

good for kiting monstrosities

[left turtle]

cause assail is comically busted

[calm lotus]

yeah assail is mildly stupid

[left turtle]

just prepare for fatshark to beat the shit out of it with the nerfbat

[plucky flax]

Hrm what level are you? If you're low level just take all the sub talents for assail.

But further down true aim is really strong for assail.

[cobalt mauve]

lvl 8 rn

[left turtle]

im not exagerating joey, Assail slaps everything with minimal effort

[cobalt mauve]

just dont know where i wanna go from here

[spare owl]

Assail gets boring after a while

[cobalt mauve]

yea i got zealot to 17

was more fun tbh but this is op

[spare owl]

Great for clutch moments on damnation or heresy

[fresh venture]

Assail makes the game fun in low difficulty, it can be clutch in higher. But yes, it's a bit overpowered and will get boring eventually....but I will use it until then

[cobalt mauve]

im just so torn where to go from here

[woven pumice]

Does warp attack mean just charged force sword attack or anything that generates peril

[plucky flax]

All attacks generate perils.

[woven pumice]

so void staff kills proc soulstealer?

[plucky flax]

Yep for sure.

[woven pumice]

nice one

[plucky flax]

My assail build for reference from where you're at but you should experiment stuff for yourself too.

Talent tree is good that way, a lot more variety.

[unreal tapir]

is the crit tree bad with assail?

[cobalt mauve]

gotcha ill mess around as i level

[plucky flax]

I run crit further down.

[cold oasis]

Psyker talent tree is by far the best one, we can mix and match so much

[unreal tapir]

i mean like taking the bottom right tree over the free 25% damage from warp charges on the left side

[plucky flax]

I agree. The ogryn and vet trees are kinda hard to do so.

[cold oasis]

Zealot is the worst honestly

everything good is under like 2/3 useless points

[fresh reef]

just had a match with two psykers running 3 wounds

one of them ran ahead and exploded, the other one did nothing except spam smite at specials

she ended up being sniped and ledged from knockback

[dawn wolf]

As in health bar had 5 wounds and they took 3 wound curio?

[fresh reef]

yes

[weak galleon]

what's the deal with disrupt destiny? Went through the end-map horde on Damnation, barely had 5 stacks, while killing most stuff in the team.

and that's with double duration on stacks

feels like it barely works at times.

[dawn wolf]

Hard carry my siblings onichan

[plucky flax]

It doesn't mark the trash melee horde dudes.

So yeah they need to buff dd a bit in that regards.

[weak galleon]

oh.
well, Warp Charges it is, again

[fresh reef]

I'm doing my best but I give too many bad players the benefit of the doubt

and then push way out of position trying to rescue their dumbass

[sly nexus]

assail is so broken

[remote prism]

What should I change?

[dawn wolf]

As soon as I stopped this I started dying way less but it's a hard habit to break

[plucky flax]

Just be selfish in war.

[remote prism]

Wanna save deflector, like it

[dawn wolf]

But I also appreciate you coming to get me

[weak galleon]

is it though? I'm finding myself using voidstrike more and more often, instead.

assail just falls off hard in damage, endgame

[unreal tapir]

are assail charges affected by cooldown?

[wide quest]

What's the difference between mk iv and mk v dueling sword?

[sly nexus]

idk ive just been rolling through auric maelstroms with assail feeling like its too strong

[weak galleon]

plus the arrows often outright refuse to go for the enemy. Had a dog that took several seconds to die from all 4 arrows

thrown at it.

[sly nexus]

dogs are kinda funky w them

[weak galleon]

though, I can imagine it's partially due to broken Disrupt Destiny

can find yourself having 0 charges even on damnation hordes.

[sly nexus]

it will def get nerfed

[weak galleon]

if it does at higher difficulties - back to staff spamming.
It'll be hard for them to nerf it properly, without making other options no brainer, imo.

[fresh reef]

just had the sound bug so hard on maelstrom

[tidal elm]

370 or 379

[fresh reef]

literally couldn't hear anything except voicelines

from the sheer amount of spawns

[sly nexus]

yeah the problem is it physically is such a good ability that they'd have to make the damage so shit people will never take it

[dawn wolf]

Whichever one Hadron is kinder to

[crude cape]

haven't played psyker since day 1 or so of patch coming back.
whats the 'meta' psyker build rn? Assuming voide staff + dueling sword, force or chainsword right?

what talent build?

are most running?

[plucky flax]

Interesting I use assail for 90% of the game. 5% void 5% duelling sword.

[plucky flax]

Different attack patterns. 5 has longer dodge distance. 4 has better headshot damage.

[weak galleon]

which build?

[plucky flax]

I use empowered blitz and true aim.

Assail gaming in a hard auric maelstrom game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv82gJBhZyo

[wide quest]

I see, thanks

[spring ivy]

New here.
Psyker seems… idk. Hard to position. At least early.
Ive been loading into most games where a psyker is clearing every room with tracker darts so… yeah. Dont know what to think

[cobalt mauve]

what are warp attacks?

like this for example

[spring ivy]

Grenade ability

[cobalt mauve]

so assail

[whole oxide]

any attack that generates peril

[limpid lily]

man, I cant really tell, but does Inner Tranquility even affect Smite's peril generation?

[cobalt mauve]

gotcha

i hate having this many options for a skill tree

[summer prairie]

You pretty much should have soulstealer with every build

maybe not gunslinger

[whole oxide]

tbh, I disagree, you can over-invest into toughness regen

[cobalt mauve]

headache

[summer prairie]

You can rarely get anything better with that point

[cobalt mauve]

too much viability lol

[whole oxide]

most likely death scenarios, if you're good at the game, aren't as a result of losing a war of attrition with toughness regen

[reef wren]

Hey guys, i haven't touched my psyker since i lvl 30'd them

[cobalt mauve]

this so far

idk where to go from here

[steel flame]

Disrupt destiny only adds stacks when you kill the highlighted blue enemies....

[reef wren]

Whats the most braindead, OP build rn?

[spring ivy]

It feels like playstyle presets in every class.
Room clear, hard hitter, and utility

[summer prairie]

soulstealer even works with some abilities that technically don't generate peril, such as warp rupture and creeping flames

or perilous combustion

[limber heath]

prob like assail voidstrike

[steel flame]

What kind of build do you want? A crit build?, fire? Tanky tank cc?

[crude cape]

flak maniac best on void?

or is unyielding ok?

[reef wren]

Im a unga bunga ogryn main so the more mistakes i can make the better

[plucky flax]

Do all of them with 1 build.

[cobalt mauve]

dps ig lol idk not knowledgeable enough im noob

[limber heath]

assail voidstrike with warp charges basically puts the game on autopilot. you place your shield wherever you are, spam assail/use voidstrike for priority and profit. You can stay at high peril if you want or you can be completely safe and stay low peril easily.

[steel flame]

Zzzzzz

[limber heath]

that being said its pretty boring

[fresh reef]

can I please
just get good players in maelstrom
I'm not asking for much Big E

[reef wren]

I gotta start somewhere

[limber heath]

but if you usually play gunlugger I doubt that's a big concern 😭

[crude cape]

warp charges better than the middle keystone?

[limber heath]

I perfer them. middle keystone is fine, i used it for a while i just found it less fun.

[plucky flax]

Do you run 6 warp charges?

[ornate hamlet]

Middle has its uses... Warp Siphon is a "safe" choice.

[limber heath]

yea.

if you're taking warp charges you take the 6

[steel flame]

I prefer laspistol crit build with assail, scrier and destiny. It's fast as hell with 155% movement speed, very tanky at range with crits giving immunity to ranged and very high damage. Use the mk4 ds for handling armor

[reef wren]

Does veteran still have the OP powersword? Then you might wanna switch over if you want pure dps 🤣

[plucky flax]

That's too deep down the tree I don't have enough points.

[limber heath]

because its free damage, you'll be building charges very easily on any sort of hi int gamemode.

[reef wren]

What level are you rn?

[ornate hamlet]

I use this build with trauma staff, blaze obscurus force sword with deflection. The brainburst is almost always free and a quick cast, makes BB feel really good.

[limber heath]

if you're not level 30 then you don't have to worry too much about whether you have the 6 charges effect

[plucky flax]

I'm 30 it's just I need other talents up on the tree.

[limber heath]

otherwise I'd probably say find something on your skill tree that you need less. its a 15% cd reduction as well as 8% damage buff.

[plucky flax]

I linked a video above of me doing maelstrom I got called top 1% psyker.

[crude cape]

any reason for obscuras over deimos/illy? is it better now

[ornate hamlet]

HIgher stats/better roll.

[limber heath]

i still have yet to find any good force sword blessings, can you rip a blessing off illisi and put it on deimos etc.?

[ornate hamlet]

Also, blaze MB1 hits harder I believe.

I also think (need to test) that charge rmb obscuras is better than others

[dawn wolf]

B-but you didn't even blow yourself up

[paper loom]

Anyone use a las pistol? What's some good blessings?

[twilit knoll]

is there a good reason to bring two kinds of chain lightning?

[fluid terrace]

isthere anyway i can find out how big coherency aura is

[willow escarp]

8m

[left turtle]

honestly all i think they need to do is nerf it against armor, but keep it as a chaff slaughterer

that way you have assail for clear, Smite for CC, and BB for specialist focus

[fluid terrace]

so with the puppet master node, you'd get 12m of coherency aura?

[left turtle]

cause assail being able to clear an entire platoon of like, 8-10 ragers is fucking ridiculous

in seconds

[fluid terrace]

that feels underwhelming unless im just wrong

[wary sleet]

What counts "close kill" for terrifying barrage on a purgatus? Feels like I'm not seeing anything be suppressed

[left turtle]

take it into the meat grinder and try

[willow escarp]

Probbaly 15m based on other talents

[tired hearth]

Very informative description 10/10

[left turtle]

Im running middle Keystone, Empowered Psionics.
What do yall think is better?
Overpowering souls: Guarunteed chance to gain Empowered Psionics on elite kill
or
Bio-Lodestone: Chance to gain Empowered Psionics increased from 7.5 to 12.5 per kill.

[tired hearth]

Any tips for beginner Psyker? Where to get good gears, skills, and such?

[left turtle]

its Venting shriek without the peril vent

[wary sleet]

Hmm suppressing must not last long then

[left turtle]

Nothing is really bad, the best advice, honestly, is to experiement with everything and find what clicks with you

[willow escarp]

Iirc purg already suppresses pretty good

[left turtle]

Assail is comically overpowered right now, but imo, and a few others, not a very fun playstyle.

IM personally having a blast using Brain Rupture, Telekine shield, with middle keystone
Dueling Sword/Purgatus staff

[dawn wolf]

Go into meat grinder and play around with the weps you want to use and get a feel for their peril generation so you know how far you can push. Then blow yourself up in game anyway lol

[left turtle]

i blew myself up earlier cause i tried to switch off my staff too quickly, didnt read my input and i channeled the staff again lol

[ornate hamlet]

Everyone does that once or twice

Some more than others.

[left turtle]

i played a couple matches with Kinetic flayer, i dont think its worth the talent point personally

[limber heath]

its gonna get eaten by random groaners half the time lol

[left turtle]

anything that survives long enough, im usually gonna be far away from manually brain rupturing them anyways

[ornate hamlet]

Sometimes I've actually intentionally overloaded to finish off an elite when surrounded so I can use perils of the warp because our clear wasn't fast enough in hi shock with waves

[thin finch]

Such many cases

Suicideker soon to be considered valable playstyle

[calm lotus]

suicyker

[limber heath]

just make sure you run at the nearest horde of enemies as soon as you start to explode

suddenly you'll no longer be griefing and instead be killing elites

[left turtle]

literally no one will see it that way tho

[limber heath]

do not worry about the fact that you are now unreachable by your teammates in a horde of elites

thats a minor detail that can be ignored

[left turtle]

coming from A Ogryn main, and off-zealot. everyone sees a detonating psyker as a moron. lol

[echo turtle]

Almost exactly the brain burst build I have been settling on and it's been feeling great

I replied to the wrong one

That response was to your builds

[left turtle]

i assumed lol

[echo turtle]

Assail I haven't been loving, it's really good but I dunno. It feels awkward

[left turtle]

i was thinking of using the warp siphon charges but i actually like using the Bubble shield often, so.

[echo turtle]

Brain burst feels like it flows

[left turtle]

i just dont want to rely on assail cause its going to get nerfed to shit

[echo turtle]

I was also thinking to do vent bust and charges

[lost hearth]

Coming from a psyker main I also think I'm a moron when I explode lol.

[echo turtle]

Classic psyker

[left turtle]

also from alot of people ive heard who use(d) assail, its pretty stale. insanely strong, but not engaging at all

[crude cape]

how do you feel about assail over bb with a similar build?

[limber heath]

i only explode at the dumbest times when there's like 3 enemies cause i'm not focusing on staying alive/managing peril etc. its dumb but also probably the best time to explode if i'm going to at all

[fluid terrace]

suffering from success

use strike, it's far more fun to stun entire hordes

[empty onyx]

Spent 100k+ and All my plasteel on a new Saber, now I'm only 15 damage off the breakpoint.

[fluid terrace]

i think tho, im goingto level up Zealot now

[unreal tapir]

how did i just place 3 bubbles

[left turtle]

my first time detonating my self was on heresy, i was on my last wound and carrying a grimoire. Chaos spawn was beating the shit out of me, i was sitting on 100 peril from BB.
Made some space and went to quell, saw a horde coming at me and my brain was like "ooh purgatus time"
it was not purgatus time.

[left turtle]

theres a bug happening rn, i believe with warp charges

i dunno what triggers it but ive heard a few people mentioning multi-casting the bubble

[fluid terrace]

there are quite a few bugs with Psyker

[unreal tapir]

w bug

[left turtle]

theres just a few bugs in general

[pure ice]

I just found a build I really like using assail, dome shield, and warp charges then after one game I noticed that they've added penances that require you to use the default ability + blitz 😭

[cold oasis]

Overpowering, by far

[left turtle]

sometimes on my zealot, ill pull out the holy relic and he just sort of..holds it. doesnt pulse or anything, doesnt even put it on CD

just feels like holding it sometimes

thats what im at right now, lvl 23, mind you

[pure ice]

warp charges and dome shield seem good together, if you have charges you can have the shield immediately come off cooldown when you use it

[left turtle]

warp charges are great, i just dont personally like the playstyle of managing your charges effieciently. The middle tree is extremely easily managable as its just, easy free boosts to my BB

i think the keystones are well balanced to boil down to personal preference

(cant speak for disrupt destiny, never used it)

[pure ice]

yeah I never liked keeping the charges up either, but I found that I mainly use the voidstrike staff over blitz so they seem like the best option for me

[left turtle]

oh i use BB like, 90% of the mission lol

on heresy theres almost always an elite somewhere you can pop from 40 miles away

[pure ice]

I guess I'm going to start using BB again too for the penances

[unreal tapir]

i just switched to a bb build for the penances.

[cold oasis]

?? You don't manage them, you just get the coherency node

And just stand at max charges forever

[left turtle]

yeah but wasted if you ever use your class skill

and im using bubble practically off cooldown

Also, I got the shoot fast Penance, by loading into a match midway, popped one hound, and it just..was done

so, awesome.

[summer prairie]

This is a lot of fun, you'll also want combat ability regeneration on your curios, it's just constant Creeping flames spam madness

you could drop the top left nodes for true aim too

[pure ice]

the warp charges seem much easier to keep up now that you get them on any elite/specialist kill, not just BB kills

[cold oasis]

Just use the Coherency one

dear god

It's so op

[left turtle]

that is fair, and alot of targets to farm them off of once you go up

[pure ice]

I'm glad that they got rid of that stupid penance where you had to keep warp charges up for a really long time

yeah I use the coherency one too

[left turtle]

i mean i use the 2 nodes for soulflame, and a purgatus staff, would that not be better for me specifically?

[pure ice]

often I'm killing the most elites/specials with voidstrike

[cold oasis]

Honestly, the soulblaze dot deals such insignificant damage on anything that isn't a monstruosity

that i hate it

[left turtle]

im going to assume essence harvest is better than inner tranquility also

[cold oasis]

Inner Tranquillity and Psychich Vampire are better by miles

for any builds

Plus reallly

[pure ice]

yeah I use essence harvest

[cold oasis]

you don't need Essence Harvest

[summer prairie]

6 stacks of creeping flames still nukes whole horde and many shooters and you'll add more stacks with perilous combustion

[cold oasis]

we have a metric fuckton of thoughness regen

near the top

[pure ice]

true

[summer prairie]

you don't need inner tranquility for anything except maybe Surge and Trauma

[pure ice]

maybe I should try the other one

[summer prairie]

I want more peril and I don't sit on my warp charges

[cold oasis]

Quietitude+Warp Expenditure literally fixes any thougness problem youcan have

[summer prairie]

I ult as soon as it's back up

[cold oasis]

and if you want to go all out just get Battle Mediation

The thing is, not taking the barrier

is a big ass nerf for your team

that's why i reaaaaaaally hate Venting atm

[summer prairie]

Shriek just makes you a murder machine, don't need bubbles

[pure ice]

I've tried scriers gaze a few times but I always blow myself up lol

[cold oasis]

Man, you're using Assail

you don't need shit else

[pure ice]

assail isn't good against armour

[cold oasis]

... we do have staves.

Surge/Voidstrike or Trauma if you REALLY need to meme

Or just use a Sword

[summer prairie]

I get a cone that clears everything in a 30m cone every 13-21s (and staggers). You do want all the damage you can get on auric maelstorm

[left turtle]

"assail isnt good against armor"
As i watch my psyker buddy just, turn a crusher into mincemeat with 467 knives flying around

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[pure ice]

on what difficulty?

[left turtle]

Crowd control, not damage

[left turtle]

heresy

[cold oasis]

....

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[cold oasis]

Still, Voidstrike two shots Crushers on Auric

[pure ice]

maybe it can kill them but there are much better damage options against carapace

[cold oasis]

Smite does the same

Trauma needs two or three

[left turtle]

yeah im just saying its not useless against armor

[cold oasis]

It is

[rocky aspen]

best macabian mk iv blessings?

[cold oasis]

On damnation at least

but again, it doesn't matter

you're not playing the game alone

if with Assail you literally kill everything else

[left turtle]

its not useless, there are just better options

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[cold oasis]

no

Smite is CC, nothing else

It's great for team play

[pure ice]

I've been using voidstrike like 99% of the time since it's good against basically everything

[left turtle]

As far as i know, you cant really make smite lethal, its meant to hold down literally everything so your team can slap everything into mush

[rocky aspen]

is this any good or should i aim for better blessings?

[cold oasis]

they're both terrible honestly

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[cold oasis]

you want Shred and something else really

[pure ice]

smite is pretty strong even if it doesn't do much damage

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[fossil lagoon]

blessings are irrelevant on duelling sword

change perks to flak & maniac

heavy attack heads

[left turtle]

pretty much every class has a supportive capability

[fossil lagoon]

1shot mutants

[left turtle]

Taunt Ogryn, Commanders shout Veteran, Holy relic Zealot, Smite Psyker

[cold oasis]

So, theoretically, Smite is great

The problem atm is that Assail is busted

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[cold oasis]

So why bother ccing stuff down (as you were doing pre-patch with the surge stuff) when you can kill everything?

[pure ice]

if you use smite and voidstrike you can switch between support and dps depending on the situation

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[left turtle]

some people feel good playing that support role. more casual groups will appreciate the safety net of a psyker keeping those 15 maulers from slapping the shit out of you

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[left turtle]

I have a friend who plays with smite and he can reach a point of unlimited peril, i can ask him what he does if you want

[pure ice]

I'm sure they'll fix it but empowered smite is OP

[cold oasis]

it's just a bug

EP has -100% peril cost on it, even if it's not written

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[cold oasis]

just use smite and bubble

and keep shit cc'ed

there really isn't anything more to it

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[cold oasis]

no, just use Bubble on EVERYTHING

(please.)

[left turtle]

Smite will work on harder difficulties, you just have to re-wire your brain that youre supporting, not killing

[lucid fractal]

Had a question where could I go to see current psyker builds

[pure ice]

sometimes I'll switch to smite just for stuff like packs of dogs

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[left turtle]

and yes, use bubble liberally. theres so many gunners and ranged enemies in general that your team will give you a reach-around for your service

[last sleet]

So for psyker curios, what do I go for? 3 x toughness?

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[narrow crane]

Gonna be a sad day when FS nerfs Assail into the dirt. I think it's such a cool alternative to brain burst, hope they don't make it useless

[left turtle]

The more toughness you have, the more your bubble will pump it+the toughness regen nodes.

[lucid fractal]

I’m kinda wanting to build my Psyker around my assail

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[left turtle]

it needs a nerf to be fair. i think they just need to make mulch crowds better and make it even weaker against armor.

that'll set the 3 blitz skills completely apart
BB-Specialist
smite-CC
Assail-Clear

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[pure ice]

I think they should just make assail recharge more slowly

[left turtle]

your mind will change when you actually start playing with it. it grows stale FAST

[narrow crane]

I agree it needs to be nerfed, but I don't want a situation where it's so useless that no one wants to bring it

[weak galleon]

this ^

[left turtle]

ofc, no one wants that, but it does need to be slapped a bit

[weak galleon]

like, you need to have clear reason to use it over other options.
Especially that it competes with a bunch of staves.

at least with the void.

[lucid fractal]

I love it and am hoping to find a a good build for it anyone have any suggestions

[narrow crane]

Tbh I think Voidstrike is way more overtuned than Assail, Void is fucking insane rn

[left turtle]

im not exagerating when i say this, you dont need a build for assail, Assail alone does it all

[pure ice]

I agree about voidstrike

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[lucid fractal]

😂 I mean you’re not wrong

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[weak galleon]

It's the only staff that resembles Sienna's level of firepower in DTIde.
Works too well against carapace, though

[left turtle]

im personally preferable to the Purgatus staff, compliments my single target BB build.

[weak galleon]

it shouldn't, imo

[pure ice]

yeah voidstrike is so much fun

[left turtle]

i jsut needa decide what blessings to rock on my Purgatus

[narrow crane]

dream Assail rework: reign in the damage a bit, reign in the recharge time, but allow us to "load up" like 4 rocks at a time for good burst damage, like a shotgun.

[rose vault]

Any place to report bugs?

[narrow crane]

forums, but theyre already aware of this

[rose vault]

tks mate, thought so

"woo, me so special, got bug"

😄

[narrow crane]

yeah it's been a bug for like a month or two now

maybe longer

[cobalt mauve]

does ranged damage count for assail?

i assume no

[sharp shoal]

Just did my first 5 maelstrom

It wasn't to bad

[river rose]

it does i only play with my assail and it progressed towards my ranged kills contract

[cobalt mauve]

🫡

[sharp shoal]

Assail is going to be nerfed

I can't wait for that

[narrow crane]

lots of things will be

[left turtle]

Hmmm.

[plucky flax]

Oh I got this. Didn't even notice.

[zinc phoenix]

Finally got all the old psyker penance gear

Had been ignoring the “bb boss solo” one for forever

[primal python]

So is it safe to say the pistol brain burst build is no longer possible/viable?

[zinc phoenix]

Nah it works fine

[primal python]

:0

[zinc phoenix]

You go Scrier gaze for pistol and can dd or warp charge

[primal python]

got it

[zinc phoenix]

And use BB for whatever

[left turtle]

as far as i understand, Fatshark balanced shit really well, (aside form assail being goofy levels of overpowered)

[zinc phoenix]

Empowered smite is bugged so that too

[left turtle]

you can kind of do whatever feels good to you, honestly.

[zinc phoenix]

But some people are shitty if you don’t run void/assail

[steel egret]

Really?

is it other psykers?

[primal python]

Yeah Ive just been running void with assail but thats getting kind of boring already

[steel egret]

because other classes usually dont even know what staff you have.

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah had a console dweeb vet go off cuz I dared to use ammo as a psyker

🙄

[primal python]

its funny how people whove had the game for like 5 days think they know everything about how it works already

[left turtle]

theres always some Dweebs that cry if you arent completely meta-min-maxing every aspect of the game

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/deadpool-gasp-sarcastic-shocked-surprised-gif-20229446

[left turtle]

like idgaf whats meta, i care what fun

[ornate hamlet]

Not gun psykers!

[zinc phoenix]

Also some of the builds are really shit til you work out the play style

Which can take a hot minute

[left turtle]

people forget games are meant to be fun, i fucking hate what the gaming community has become over the last couple years.

[zinc phoenix]

Also you have to learn the weapon

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/finger-middle-finger-fuck-you-deadpool-deadpool-finger-gif-25826130

My honest reaction to the console player

[zinc phoenix]

… last couple years? It’s been like this since the early 2000s lol

There are movies from then that have the reeeeing CoD player console child meme

[primal python]

Im not worried about play style so much as optimizing things with the correct talent perks etc tbh

[left turtle]

not the early 2000s. that was my prime of gaming. theres always sweat, but the last few years, its considered the norm to sweat as hard as possible at every game

when in the early 2000s, people laughed at you for it

[zinc phoenix]

Oh yeah people are way more minmax, I blame YouTube and grindset

People watch streamers and want to exactly copy them

[left turtle]

i blame youtube and twitch.
and esports.

[ornate hamlet]

This can be attributed to the rise of online elitism in the early 2000s, the condescending "lol noob" when multiplayer online gaming really went mainstream.

[left turtle]

people always want to follow the top players, not realizing those players have builds based on the top 1% player skill.

[ornate hamlet]

And it usually shows.

[left turtle]

then the casual player tried it out, and gets bodied, not realizing that they are not in the top 1% of player skill

but theyll still screech at other players for not following the build

[ornate hamlet]

Games need more of this. It needs to be more punishing.

[left turtle]

nah if you make it more punishing, those dumbasses will only drag everyone else down with them

[primal python]

people who suck at video games tend to whine that things are too hard and to attract a wider audience things get watered down

[left turtle]

they dont pay attention to whats going on, theyre just convinced that the big name youtuber uses it, so it must be good for me too. and fails. constantly.

[primal python]

happens too often

[ornate hamlet]

The skill-less will remain, such. Who, by the way, are a minority. THe rest of us will be like water (Bruce Lee) and find the path with least resistance that works for us.

[left turtle]

well you dance a fine-line between "Skill-less" and "casual"

[primal python]

yeah

[ornate hamlet]

Sure I do.

But the line exists.

[left turtle]

the casuals arent necessarily skill-less, they just dont sweat hard as fuck over everything and just play for fun and use whatever feels good to them
Thats me. i am de casual.

[ornate hamlet]

I never said they weren't.

[left turtle]

yeah im not arueing with you, im just speaking in general

its something people love to lump together, Casual and Skill-less.

[steel flame]

That sounds like heresy

[ornate hamlet]

It's like the inverse of drinking and driving. THose who try to achieve what's beyond them will notice their failure more often and will be invigorated negatively by it. Casuals don't GAF, and will do what's fun and unironically do better by a few factors.

[left turtle]

"oh hes not running X-Y-Z talents and weapons be must be a noob"
no bitch i just like how that gun looks

[steel flame]

Or non auric damnation

[primal python]

meta slaves in any game ruin the fun

[steel flame]

Nobody really gives a shit what you use in auric damnation

[crude cape]

man, illisi just doesn't crush like it used to. I guess its just the slaughterer nerf?
anyone else feel the same?

[ornate hamlet]

Ehhhhhhhhhh. I disagree for some games.

[left turtle]

nah, im with sable on this

[steel flame]

It's because health pools were increased

[left turtle]

Meta slaves always sap the fun out of everything

cause they dont keep it to themselves, they bitch at you for not also being a meta slave

[crude cape]

ah ya, + 35% dmg nerf on slaughterer i feel it
guess psykers were never supposed to crush melee like we used to

[ornate hamlet]

Like co-op yeah totally. But competitive MP? To not go for meta is like being a NFL player and delimbing yourself and complaining that everyone else has limbs and you don't.

[narrow crane]

Tbh there's nothing I find more annoying than people responding to genuine inquiries about how a game works than "don't worry about the meta! just have fun! it's a game!"

like sometimes people just want to improve, or understand how the nuances of a game works, it's not always evidence of the sweaty player archetype

[weak galleon]

whats the highest single target boss dmg for psyker?

melee weapon.

[steel egret]

Deimos special.

I would imagine.

[steel flame]

Lacerate knife

[ornate hamlet]

My Voidstrike Staff.

[primal python]

Perhaps but being forced to play a specific thing if you want to win because its the best and everyone else is doing it is really boring. Especially in competitive games. Its a sign of poor balance.

[steel flame]

Bleeeeeeeeed

[primal python]

i need to get surge

ugh

[steel egret]

?

[primal python]

The crit build is disgusting lol

[ornate hamlet]

I am thinking of Armored Core 6, there's meta sure, but there's so much meta that there's other meta that counters other meta, and enough variety that there's no way to be safe either way.

[steel flame]

Feels like just yesterday nobody every thought surge void would be good

[narrow crane]

running this for a day made me never wanna touch it again lmao

[ornate hamlet]

yeah...... It is kinda insane. I one shot a mauler.

[steel egret]

I've used this since launch, only difference being it took few hundred hours to get Surge.

[analog solstice]

What's a good thing to pair with assail? I feel like i should get something that can deal with stuff assail doesnt do so well againts like crushers and monsters etc

[ornate hamlet]

What are you trying to pair, big boi dmg for bigguns, or huge CC or HUGE wavveclear?

[steel flame]

It's laceration knife, but that's kind of a technicality because the 16 stacks of bleed are what's doing the work

[plucky token]

Voidstaff or Surge Staff.

[steel egret]

I run Trauma and gun on one build.

[narrow crane]

Voidstrike, Trauma staff, Deimos sword

[ornate hamlet]

how?

[primal python]

Deimos

istg ive only been using the ilisi since beta

[ornate hamlet]

Illisi wasn't around in beta...

[plucky token]

I like the Surge Staff personally, but I know Voidstrike is just broken right now.

[primal python]

🤔

[narrow crane]

I'm addicted to the dueling swords ngl

[steel egret]

Like, I'm responding to a guy about what weapons he should run with Assail.

[steel flame]

I pair it with Mk4 Dueling sword for armor, laspistol, scrier's gaze, and destiny

[steel egret]

I have build with Trauma and one with gun.

[narrow crane]

here's a question: what melee weapon for Psyker has the best mobility?

[ornate hamlet]

I know, you said you use trauma and a gun on one build. How?

[plucky token]

Dueling Sword

[steel flame]

Crits crits Crist Crist crits

[fresh reef]

Mk5 dueling sword, no contest

[steel flame]

Wrong. It's diemos

[loud girder]

do i buy this

decent rolls

[steel egret]

I dont, I listed weapons I use with assail.

[fresh reef]

+15% dodge distance and highest sprint speed

[slow raven]

it's gotta be knife for the most mobility, because the heavy attack gives you momentum

[narrow crane]

like for sprint speed?

[loud girder]

or is cleave targets bad on axe?

[ornate hamlet]

Ah, confusion in the prhasing.

[fresh reef]

[steel egret]

Sure.

[plucky token]

Oh I thought he meant like dodging and stuff

[narrow crane]

werd then ive been running the right one

[primal python]

at this point i consider everything ive played for the last 9 ish months beta. TBH

[loud girder]

is cleave on axes bad or needed? the moveset is all single target

this makes no sense

is it a dead stat?

[ornate hamlet]

This nerf hit hard. 😦 It didn't use to have a cooldown.

[steel flame]

Diemos has about the same dodge distance and unlimited dodges

[plucky token]

Yes, it's nice that Darktide has finally come out of Early Access.

[remote raptor]

is mk2 dueling sword still bad

[narrow crane]

uh excuse me it was never bad

[ornate hamlet]

So now, I'm thinking of putting a cleave blessing in there as I do block/push/attack spam with psyker.

[willow escarp]

as the mkV dueling sword? Dodge distance is hilarious on that thing

[fresh reef]

It's good but it's still the least good of the dueling swords

[remote raptor]

oh i thought it had a bugged swing

[remote raptor]

was wondering this

[steel flame]

What. No it used to suck ass. It used to nerf all damage that wasn't your first hit in a chain

[remote raptor]

i did get this though

[ornate hamlet]

If you're doing horde control with block-push-attack in a repeating chain, y ou always benefitted from it.

[remote raptor]

i'll use it till i get one of the other varients

[steel flame]

+10%/15%/20%/25% on First Attack in a Chain. Subsequent Attacks have -10%/15%/20%/25% Power.

[fresh reef]

Though gotta be honest, I think Mk2 dueling has the nicest model

[steel flame]

Limbsplitter sucked ass

[fresh reef]

That enough could be reason to run it over the other two

[ornate hamlet]

It worked great doing the chain I mentioned.

[remote raptor]

based

minor perks for it would be maniac and Crit C right

[ornate hamlet]

And if you're fighting something big, You just do a heavy swing on like a plague ogryn, and dodge after. By the time you got to your next attack, it'd be up again.

[plucky token]

I'll be honest I like to use the chainsword to shred monstrosities.

But I play Support SMite Psyker

[fresh reef]

I'd personally run Maniac and +Stam

[remote raptor]

thx

[feral inlet]

which duelling sword is the best?

[keen harbor]

4 or 5

[plucky token]

I heard 4

[steel flame]

Uh.....has somebody checked to see if riposte procs off emphatic evasion

[ornate hamlet]

Behold! The new blockpushattack-repeat combo blessing setup!

[steel flame]

That would be extremely silly

[plucky token]

[keen harbor]

4 and 5 have different movesets, and aren't used in the same way

[plucky token]

Yeah I think it's mostly preference, but I like 4's moveset better than 5. Like I said I mostly use chainsword tho

[keen harbor]

chainsword is really good now. totally viable option

[steel flame]

There is no way they would let riposte proc off empathic evasion would they.....that would be too silly

[steel egret]

Wouldnt surprise.

[steel flame]

Ugh I'm gonna have to sit on that question for the rest of work

[glass karma]

Does anyone know why the changed one of the penances to private match only? I just returned the game and I swear they’re weren’t before

[steel flame]

Quick somebody test it and end my suffering

[last sleet]

Hmm. I'm thinking of installing that enemy health bar mod. Anyone got any experience with it? I'm not super sure because for bigger enemies I kinda just... you know, surge staff until death. Not sure how useful it would be, overall.

[plucky token]

Yeah it chunks monstrosities with the rev up.

I'm playing Support Smite Psyker with EP (yes I know its bugged and cheesy) and Bubble Shield. So I wanted something to help with bosses.

[keen harbor]

the nice thing about chainsword is that it one shots muties with a reved lite attack

[plucky token]

yeyup

Although I prefer just stun locking the mutant and letting the Zealot get the free kill. Im a nice guy like that.

Once I get my Psyker to 30 I think ill make a Zealot next, I hear they have a really powerful Support Build too

[last sleet]

As a smite support psyker what do you do when long range enemies attack you? Just pray? Die? Hope someone gets it before you eat it?

[plucky token]

The lightning chains farther than you think

lol

[uncut hamlet]

thats great to hear i always liked how it sounded

[plucky token]

I can lock down entire hordes

and the guys in the back

[last sleet]

Well it surely won't hit a sniper across the map.

[faint vault]

Back after a few months break. What are people running after the class overhaul?

[plucky token]

That's what Vet is for

[uncut hamlet]

for psyker, ive seen everything

though assail is really really powerful

i expect it to get a nerf

[faint vault]

Yeah, seems like it. What are people combinging it with? Skriek?

[last sleet]

Btw do you right click smite or left click smite?

[faint vault]

Shriek*

[uncut hamlet]

i like dome shield for those gunner situations

[faint vault]

And warp charges?

[plucky token]

Always charge it up

[acoustic spade]

My friend just started levelling Psyker, and he just streamed in Discord and Psykinetic's Wrath doesnt lower peril without the Venting Shout talent?

[uncut hamlet]

i take warp charges yea

[uncut hamlet]

it does

just less than 50%

[faint vault]

Cool.

[uncut hamlet]

i think it was 35 or smth i dont remember

[uncut hamlet]

apparently empowered psionics isnt bad either, ppl take the right tree the least

[plucky token]

Right tree is for Gun Wizard I think.

[uncut hamlet]

but you should be able to run all 3 of each in auric mael so who even cares

[faint vault]

I was thinking of making a melee/surge build with the right tree... Could be funky.

[fresh reef]

4 has the best damage, 5 has the best mobility, 2 has the best aesthetics

[plucky token]

Go for it, experiment! The best part about this Update is the ammount of builds and experimentations we can do now.

[acoustic spade]

I didnt know loadouts existed before like, yesterday >.>

[faint vault]

Yeah, it all seems really funky. Anyone tried taking all the toughness regen and passive buffs? 😛

[acoustic spade]

I always just reset my Talent tree to test another build

[plucky token]

Tank Psyker confirmed?

[faint vault]

I think soooo

[plucky token]

Honestly with Bubble SHield it will prob work that thing is busted

[last sleet]

Wait there's emotes now? How do I use an emote?

[faint vault]

Time to try!

[fluid knot]

Move

Pretty simple when you have weapons with functionally infinite dodges

Get to the 25m range of Surge, let 'er rip

Smite should only be used heavily in really taxing situations tho

[zinc phoenix]

Much weaker than you’d think. Just not a lot of DR in psyker tree

Even vet DR line is much stronger

[uncut hamlet]

on higher difficulties it tends to pop pretty fast ive noticed

[keen harbor]

bring shield and/or ranged weapon that can deal with ranged enemies

[uncut hamlet]

when theres like 3+ gunners and random shooters aiming at it

[zinc phoenix]

What psyker does really good with toughness is rebuild it super fast

So many tools for rapidly zooming up toughness

[acoustic spade]

Sadge, cant get to Venting Shriek from Prescience Aura :<

[plucky token]

I didin't even know it COULD pop?

[uncut hamlet]

yea its insane since the update my toughness is always up

[uncut hamlet]

yup it has a max hp

[acoustic spade]

Why cant I move up the talent tree :<

[faint vault]

Yup, coing for a zoomy assail build with a shit-ton of toughness regen.

going*

[fluid knot]

Dont like shield myself, use Venting for Smite to chain longer and apply Soulblaze so it actually kills stuff

[uncut hamlet]

you have to move laterally to it

[plucky token]

very interesting. I had no idea

[acoustic spade]

you cant

[last sleet]

I guess "Warp expenditure" does not work when smite does not increase peril?

[uncut hamlet]

if its below then yea, unfortunately

[zinc phoenix]

How are you applying soulblaze on smite?

[fluid knot]

With Venting

I just said

[zinc phoenix]

So just shriek?

[fluid knot]

Yes

[zinc phoenix]

Thought u meant smite itself

I was hype for a minute

[fluid knot]

Chain up till max peril, Shriek, then keep chaining

[uncut hamlet]

damnnnn

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah did that

It’s fun

[plucky token]

Yeah you could mix Soulblaze passives with Smite for a really nice combo that adds much needed damage to it.

[sharp shoal]

Seems interesting

[plucky token]

I prefer the shield tho

[uncut hamlet]

shield makes for a good panic button

[acoustic spade]

I need venting, I'm bad at peril management

[zinc phoenix]

Shield is really handy for carrying dumb vets who stand and get shot

[acoustic spade]

without venting shriek I will just explode

[uncut hamlet]

had someone last night that fully died thrice to peril lmao

[fluid knot]

Vet (skill) issue

[uncut hamlet]

3 wounds, so 9 explosions total

[zinc phoenix]

Dome and smite is better for zealot caddy

You can drop dome on dumb zealot to save them from being shot and rebuild tough + smite the inevitable crusher blob that comes to 👏 them

[uncut hamlet]

if there are trappers or flamers it blocks their projectile too

[zinc phoenix]

While shield boops muties for vet

Which is so handy

[uncut hamlet]

so if the horde is massive and you dont think your teammates can dodge reliably, it helps a lot

[plucky token]

Yep, Horde/Goon Squad just spawn? Drop shield and start Chain Lightning.

[zinc phoenix]

Honestly if it’s a massive blob in an open area with a lot of shit I have trouble too

[woeful cliff]

It also screws over beast of nurgule

It legit cannot vomit

Even if they're inside it goes nowhere

[zinc phoenix]

U sure?

[plucky token]

Yep I can confirm

[uncut hamlet]

yea it can be difficult when there are like 3 trappers a flamer and a sea of walkers

[uncut hamlet]

yup

[fluid knot]

If only it would vomit on itself an slow itself down even more than a giant slug is already slow

[sharp shoal]

I've hit 100 and had time to quell instead of explode

[fluid knot]

They did make the vomit have a much more tangible effect this patch, BoN can actually be a bit threatening this patch

[uncut hamlet]

i think its if you try to cast above 98 or smth

that you explode

[sharp shoal]

Fair

[uncut hamlet]

if you simply hit 100 you can still quell

from a trauma blast or bb or smth

[woeful cliff]

Oh yeah they're super annoying but you can still speedrun them with weakpoint

[acoustic spade]

it doesnt feel that slow when its coming at you

[sharp shoal]

I haven't exploded in quite a while

[fluid knot]

For sure, but if you get stuck in that puddle its so stupendously sticky now

[uncut hamlet]

i did it once cuz i thought i still had wrath right after the update lol

[fluid knot]

Like running through glue

[sharp shoal]

Lol

[plucky token]

Yeah Quell is actually very forgiving, just dont spam buttons like a MONKE.

[uncut hamlet]

can you still slide through it

[woeful cliff]

Yeah you need to save dodges for sliding past it

[sharp shoal]

was watching a zealot one shot monsters

Was great

[woeful cliff]

Easy for you Psykers, with your infinite dodges >.>

[plucky token]

Stealth Build Zealot is disgusting.

[sharp shoal]

lol

[uncut hamlet]

what class do you usually play

[sharp shoal]

I like the infinite dodge

I use all 4 myself

[plucky token]

People call Psykers OP. You ever see a Zealot one shot a Plague Ogryn?

[woeful cliff]

Zealot main Veteran second

[uncut hamlet]

the lack of infinite dodges gets me sometimes when i play vet or zealot lol

[zinc phoenix]

How are people building their trauma?

[uncut hamlet]

i expect to be able to dodge but i jump

[fluid knot]

Thats a one trick pony though

[sharp shoal]

Did they nerf plasma again

[fluid knot]

Its not applicable all the time, whereas Psyker kinda has run of the mill through most of the mission

[zinc phoenix]

Plasma good rn