psyker-class

[cold geode]

keeps rebinding it

[limber heath]

are you sure you're not removing a binding that needs to be set, i believe there's a few of those (not certain though)

could just be a bug though of course

[cold geode]

worked properly before the patch

[last sleet]

Is auric forced 30?

[limber heath]

huh. maybe try binding mwheel to something you never use

[limber heath]

you can queue into it as a party that has lower than 30 iirc, but blocks soloqers

[fierce crest]

yeah, difficulty 4 and 5 only, always hi intensity, frequently double modifiers

[unreal tapir]

i hate trying to do challenges in public games. why do you have to be 2 player to play a private game?

[limber heath]

ventilation sniper gauntlet my beloved

[brave turret]

high peril gen for me is kinda annoying because your having to waste time building up peril to use something else with just a bit more damage

[hushed pike]

This new psyker coat kinda pog.

[fierce crest]

[last sleet]

Ah, I guess I'll do that then. Don't necessarily want to do the super difficult stuff, but also not a fan of getting that level 25 guy in my damnation queue.

[fierce crest]

im pretty sure the base difficulty is the same

[thorn cedar]

nice butt

[zinc phoenix]

20% damage from max peril isn’t a bit tho, and you can trade it for toughness fast when needed

[hushed pike]

I now finally have a use for this black backpack I bought forever ago.

[restive slate]

Slaps

[limber heath]

if you don't want to do HI damnation you're stuck in QP. i really don't find myself running into many <30s. (okay technically i think auric can have exclusively shock troop no HI, but can't remember)

[thorn cedar]

-gas masked groan-

[zinc phoenix]

Garbage can liner?

[fierce crest]

ie this would be no different as an auric mission

[brave turret]

wdym isn't a bit tho

[zinc phoenix]

20% is much

[fierce crest]

20% is a lot

[zinc phoenix]

And with smite high peril is convenient

[fierce crest]

thats BB 1shotting pox hounds

i think at 56% peril

or was it 46

[brave turret]

yeah ik but when your using regular weapons and trying to rely on that it can be annoying to build it up

[fierce crest]

thats why the laspistol shove is a nice bonus

also force swords

and staffs

[zinc phoenix]

The shove is a big part of why I’m trying to get used to las pis

[brave turret]

forgot about the las pistol shove

only if it didn't drain stanima but good mention

[limber heath]

what does laspistol shove do?

[zinc phoenix]

10% peril and an ok forward arc shove

[limber heath]

oh wtf

[zinc phoenix]

You can speed build peril with it, it’s handy

[fierce crest]

for psyker its a force attack

[zinc phoenix]

With revolver you just bop a ho

[limber heath]

neat

[zinc phoenix]

“Try some pistol whip bitch!”

[limber heath]

revolver doesn't have it?

wack

[zinc phoenix]

*bop*

[brave turret]

yeah i wonder why it doesn

[limber heath]

FS forgor

[brave vale]

this ones gotta be good right

[zinc phoenix]

It was added to make las pistol less shit in a patch

It’s good now

But it wasn’t then

[fierce crest]

pretty much all 380s are good, even if you got 60 damage, it would still be good

[brave turret]

i only generate 6% peril with the shove if i have max warp stacks, may need to take the other talent for peril maxing

[fierce crest]

nah

[brave vale]

we're literally back

[fierce crest]

cuz you stop regenerating peril for a while

[limber heath]

as long as your other blessing/perk isn't mid

[fierce crest]

so you dont need to spam it

just once and a while to keep peril up

[brave vale]

is quell speed the dump stat

[zinc phoenix]

IMO warp charges are either stacked for damage and peril resist or dumped for cooldown, you don’t really blend them with high peril because they make it hard to get. OTOH damage is hot

🤷‍♀️ idk it’s a new world I have new hot takes like this one 😂 👆

[limber heath]

quell yea, or arguably warp resist depending on how many you shoot at once/whether you want to stay at high peril

[brave vale]

One last question, what about on force swords whats the dump on that

[brave turret]

i mean if you do warp stacks with the peril damage, you could get up 46% damage buff

[limber heath]

i've only used force swords when i have the high peril talent so i dump warp, same deal though

[zinc phoenix]

You can but it’s a pain to get there and the trait for the 20% damage on peril is at the other end of the tree from warp charge

[brave vale]

this is end result

[brave turret]

its in the middle

[limber heath]

not actually at the other end is it, isn't it right beside? like 1 node off if you're going to grab the peril block one anyway

[brave turret]

and you can chose to not pick peril restiance

[zinc phoenix]

Mazel tov

[brave vale]

is it good

[azure karma]

what is psykers options for killing bosses

[zinc phoenix]

I mean the problem with fire on void is void obliterate everything

Otherwise heck yeah imo

[fierce crest]

gun

axe

[zinc phoenix]

Oh stam on staff sucks tho

[limber heath]

duellies is fine for bosses

[azure karma]

wow, thank you so much lmfao

[fierce crest]

yeah most melee are fine for bosses

[zinc phoenix]

Eh they’re “fine”

[fierce crest]

gun and voidstrike

[zinc phoenix]

They’re not good tho

Dueling sword vs chaos spawn you can dodge tank all day… and you’ll need to because you’ll be poking the fucker all day too

[spice veldt]

fine compared to the other options you have

otherwise it's just vraks 3

takes roughly 50 seconds to kill a plogryn with a +crit chance +crit blessing mk4

which is ok

[kind jay]

chainsword with bleed, void, mk4

[zinc phoenix]

I’m always so happy to see that guy, he’s imo the easiest to deal with by far

[azure karma]

vraks is autogun?

[spice veldt]

the vraks 3 headhunter

with the Headhunter blessing (+20% crit chance per stack) and Deadly Accurate (+100% critical weakspot damage)

[limber heath]

plogryn basically doesn't have any threatening attacks lol, plus with psy shield he can't even spit on you

[restive slate]

Duelling sword heavies deal nasty damage now

[zinc phoenix]

Maybe I swap from pistol to vrak and go full gunker

[zinc phoenix]

Meanwhile beast of nurgle just carpeting the floor in shit

What a dick

[restive slate]

Plogryb cant spit in general haha

[limber heath]

oh fuck i meant nurgle

[spice veldt]

chaos spawn is so much nicer to fight now that kinetic deflection is basically a free pick

[limber heath]

i read plogryn while i was typing

mb

[restive slate]

Itd be fun if Plogryn has a ranged attack, picks up Large, Unfriendly Boulder to throw at us

[limber heath]

chaos spawn is the only threat because I haven't learned his moveset yet.

also today i learned that a vet can aggro a demonhost then cloak and shift the aggro on to you. very cool mechanic fatshark.

[restive slate]

Just keep dodging and blocking

[keen harbor]

zealot's chorus can also shoo off the DH aggro to someone else

[restive slate]

Vets already have it rough this patch, let them have it

[shell torrent]

Never seen a target swap on chorus

[keen harbor]

When chaos spawn goes for it's big wind up grab, dodge into its left armpit (your right)

[restive slate]

Chorus ledges darmonhost is best feeling

[limber heath]

I was like the only one trying to help the vet by attacking the dh and then he shifted aggro over to me and left me for dead 😭

[zinc phoenix]

Doesn’t he just break the block?

[keen harbor]

that's why you never help someone who's aggrod DH

[spice veldt]

none of his attacks are guardbreak attacks

[restive slate]

Only grab to watch out for

[zinc phoenix]

I could have sworn he had one in the chain that was

[spice veldt]

some deal more stamina damage but unlike the plogryn/bonbon, chaos spawn has no guardbreak attacks (besides their grab)

[zinc phoenix]

Oh yeah the grab

[keen harbor]

Only reason you get guard broken from DH, is because he overwhelms your stamina

[limber heath]

grab has a pretty big windup no?

[spice veldt]

they also reduced the hitbox on the grab

[brave turret]

i think im probably gonna try to run this

[restive slate]

Also big rqnge

[autumn smelt]

range is still pretty long, but not as atrocious as before

[keen harbor]

chaos spawn grab motion has a big windup, but also massive reach. If you don't think you can dodge it backwards, it's best to dive into its armpit

[spice veldt]

I think they normalized the left side of the hitbox

[zinc phoenix]

Daemonhost and chaos spawn stop mattering when gunlugger opens up

[restive slate]

That explains why I'm dodging his grabs more often now

[spice veldt]

you can dodge leftwards now

[autumn smelt]

i loved it when a chaos spawn grabbing me from a neighboring country last patch

[shell torrent]

I just hate how the grab looks the same as a regular swing when I'm going for parries

[spice veldt]

and with an 80% mob mk4 duelling sword, I can comfortably dodge out of his range if i'm hugging him

[restive slate]

Does it have to be mk4?

[spice veldt]

well not "comfortably"

[limber heath]

duelling sword has such nice dodges

[brave turret]

one of my favorite things about the dueling swords i realized is that you can stun enemies with the special attack

[spice veldt]

nah; just that the mk5 has a larger dodge distance

[keen harbor]

thots?

[zinc phoenix]

Weapon stats are so weird

[brave turret]

btw do force swords still have infinte dodge?

[restive slate]

Interesting

[restive slate]

Yup

[limber heath]

i think mk4 has noticably better damage?

[keen harbor]

If you like speedrun camera, you can run by dodging infinitely with force swords

[limber heath]

you can rip that uncanny off the mk5 and stuff it on a mk4 and it'd be good.

[restive slate]

Mk4 is stabby stabby, mk 5 be slashy slashy

[keen harbor]

I have this for a mk5

[spark fractal]

in my experience, smite hasn't been necessary, assail kills hordes and voidstrike kills armored elites and stuns

[restive slate]

But mk4 has a simpler moveset tho

[echo turtle]

No it doesnt

[restive slate]

Smitehow Palpatine returned

[zinc phoenix]

How you gonna build warp charges? Kill elites with gun?

SG makes using a stick very annoying

[spice veldt]

another quirk about the mk4 is that the h1 has a fast followup after the special

[steel flame]

Destiny work much better with that build that warp charges

[spice veldt]

so you can do a special -> h1 -> h2 loop with no or minimal loss in DPS

and the special is quite nice for staggering ragers who encroach your space

[echo turtle]

I was finding destiny not building stacks in weak spot kills like it was supposed to

[limber heath]

special is single target right? i have'nt use it much cuz i didn't know what it was for

[restive slate]

Does anyone use Duelling mk2? Haha

[limber heath]

yes, level 5 psykers probably

[last sleet]

Oh Jesus. having the Illis force sword makes it so much better fighting groups. Jesus christ.

[steel flame]

Ive never had issues building them with my assail/laspistol build

[echo turtle]

I would kill a horde in melee and get like no stacks

[restive slate]

Duelling special stagger comparable to Ripper special but its faster

[spice veldt]

the special deals very little damage; it's for stagger

[sand path]

i got fortunate with my blessings, how should I finalise this?

[spice veldt]

but because the h1 has a fast followup after it, you don't lose DPS from using the special (as long as you chain into h1)

[sand path]

Coming from Verminitde I would change to 5% crit chance + block cost reduction

[limber heath]

ahh yea i meant is the stagger just single target. the lack of damage was the reason i didn't use it much because I didn't realize it had high stagger value lol

[spice veldt]

another fun thing you can do with it is to stagger mutants midcharge with a special headshot

but it's better to heavy them if you can anyways

[restive slate]

Hold on, are we related??!

[limber heath]

it'll stagger mutants wtf

[spice veldt]

ye

only with a special headshot

[steel flame]

Cover flesh with mercykiller and weakspot with flak or maniac

[spice veldt]

and mostly for style points

[restive slate]

Aint no way, fr fr?

[steel flame]

Or do meme and go unyielding to flex on monstrosity with bleed

[spice veldt]

mutants will lift their head slightly to the top-right when they get close, so if you want to dunk on them, aim your cursor a little to the top-right and then style on their asses

[limber heath]

yea i mean a poke should kill if its statted correctly so its just more work for the purpose of cyberbullying a mutant

[spice veldt]

the special can also guardbreak bulwarks if they are hit in the head

[limber heath]

skewering mutants alone makes the duelling sword worth using (just for the free dopamine)

[spice veldt]

and inflicts a strong light stagger onto crushers (with a special to the head)

so the practical use cases of the DS special would just be for ragers and bulwarks (if you don't have a stagger weapon)

[keen harbor]

that's for the mk4?

[restive slate]

Nuts i noticed Void can hit Bulwarks heads too

[spice veldt]

yeah that's for the mk4

I don't think the mk2 and mk5 have a fast followup

the mk2 is odd since it has the same h1 as the mk4

[keen harbor]

+25% maniac dmg here I come

[spice veldt]

the mk5 has the h1 -> h2 -> l3 strikedown combo which makes sense why it wouldn't have the fast followup

i assume that they didn't correctly buff the MK2

[restive slate]

They should make mk2 the horde clear one, make its H2 cleave more

[spice veldt]

can't even cleave 3 groaners now

trajedy

[sterile saddle]

u talking dueling swords?

i've been playing around with the axes, Rashad MK2 the hold block attack is on point

consistent horizontal sweep and psyker stamina regen lets u spam it

iz dewp

i miss the ability to deflect but shmeh

[restive slate]

Does it pair with new Bromentum well?

[spice veldt]

did they buff rashad's push-attack

target cap is prob gone but does it retain the worse damage

[fierce crest]

i wish we could see actual stats for each swing

instead of just damage

[sterile saddle]

not sure it feels really good tho

[fierce crest]

cuz the achlys has such a dope moveset

and i wann see how it changed

[brave turret]

i forget how annoying how much damage groaners will do even on dammation

[sterile saddle]

u turn ur back for 1 second

poof

half ur hp

[brave turret]

yeah this isn't fun

[fierce crest]

you were the one trying to avoud sub lvl 30 players right?

just do auric heresy

[spice veldt]

assail having an uninterruptible LMB is very nice for regenning toughness from kills

[old flame]

Dd is fun but the stacks don’t last long enough, they need to last longer or peel off one by one like warp battery does

[fierce crest]

yeah

[spice veldt]

fixing the bug that makes marked enemies not glow would also be nice

[fierce crest]

also please call all keystone stacks warp charges

it would be thematic

[old flame]

Dd turns to revolver in to god tier, you’re basically a crit monster

[fierce crest]

im just running warp siphon for consistency

[plucky token]

Why Psyker cosemtics so stinky?

[old flame]

I use warp siphon for my smite build

[brave turret]

im also using warp siphon for my las pistol pysker

[fierce crest]

L + ratio

[hushed pike]

They are not stinky.

[plucky token]

You look like a drug addict

[fierce crest]

stay mad

[hushed pike]

My pskyer

[plucky token]

where you get that coat?

[spark fractal]

confuse the enemy by dressing like a veteran

[plucky token]

^

[old flame]

Wait what do you mean?

[spark fractal]

it's part of the latest krieg set

[brave turret]

this was my completely free pysker drip before i switched to the krieg cosmetic

[spark fractal]

they have one for each class, personally i think the ogryn one looks the best

[old flame]

Do you’re entire team see you’re marked target?

[spice veldt]

marked enemies don't glow, so you won't know which enemy is marked

nah, only you see the marked target

[spark fractal]

the veteran one ironically looks the worst, the coat is all stiff for some reason

[old flame]

Oh they glow blue

[spice veldt]

but sometimes they don't glow to you

[spark fractal]

psyker one looks okay with that collar

[old flame]

Atleast for me

[spice veldt]

yeah they glow when it works

[plucky token]

Oh is that the coat from the gas mask set they are selling?

[spice veldt]

but when it doesn't, they don't glow at all

so you don't know which enemy is marked

[brave turret]

the pysker gasmask actually has tubes atleast

[spark fractal]

yeah it's the classic death korps of krieg look

[old flame]

I didn’t know that, but that does explain why k don’t see anything sometimes

[paper harbor]

Is Zola she got trouble with inquisitor, now serve as prisoner

[spark fractal]

really don't know why you'd go through the trouble when you can get always on 24% damage and -24% peril generation from warp charges for literally 0 maintenance, you're just constantly generating them and maintaining 6 stacks

[spice veldt]

i always take True Aim, so warp charges are too much of a point investment to take

[spark fractal]

you can get true aim, warp charges, and assail all at once

[spice veldt]

and along with other stuff in my build

I'm taking all of the toughness feats as well

lemme grab my build

[spark fractal]

you do have to trim the "nice to have" talents though

[old flame]

Crit bonus

[void pasture]

is the blaze sword the best for maulers / crushers? only time i find myself using melee is vs those two

[old flame]

And up to 30% damage boost

[fierce crest]

i just wish the prisoner masks didnt conform to the neck OR covered the chest

[spice veldt]

this is my build so far

[fierce crest]

looks very silly especially considering theyre the same cosmetic set

[warm latch]

anyone have a purgatus staff build recommendations?

[spark fractal]

it's nice but you really can't maintain enough stacks of the buff since your teammates steal kills from you, which is the opposite of how warp charges work, where they generate it for you

[spice veldt]

it's semi-reliable if you're pushing the map

which is good enough for me

[unkempt hare]

Assail is so much fun

[fierce crest]

also i wish the prisoner visor and prisoner collar were their own cosmetics

the mask is kinda lame

[old flame]

Similar to mine expect I have scriers gaze and brain burst

[fierce crest]

[unkempt hare]

Yeah that does look a bit shit

[old flame]

True I’m sure it’ll get fixed, and it still fun. It’s not my main build I’m just experimenting, but if it gets fixed then I’m sure it’ll be competitive

I just use the revolver to snipe the mark targets

It works well

[fierce crest]

even the high rarity torso from that set doesnt fit with it

doesnt make sense

[old flame]

Plus the crit bonus allows you to melt even crushers

[fierce crest]

just give me visor/collar only

[unkempt hare]

If take collar over visor anyday

[fierce crest]

i want either or both, just without mask

[river dawn]

Is "Finesse Damage" stuff like weakspot hit/crit hits?

[spark fractal]

we have void, surge, and revolvers for that, they're really not super threatening anymore

[spark fractal]

just weakspot i think?

[spice veldt]

weakspots, crits, and critical weakspots

[fierce crest]

its this, yes

[spice veldt]

it's different from critical and weakspot power on the Finesse stat

the Finesse stat modifiers and Finesse Damage in blessings are related but different things

[unkempt hare]

Surge is fun but engaging with crushers In melee range is satisfying too amp my sword and JUST START SWINGING

[fierce crest]

its just the extra stats tho right? finesse stat gives finesse damage plus some other stuff like attack speed

[spice veldt]

it affects crit/weakspot/crit weakspot damage but not in the same way

[spark fractal]

crit bonuses also have a bit of anti-synergy with the bloodthirsty blessing, which already gives you 100% crit chance

[fierce crest]

meth math

[river dawn]

So the blessing on this wont increase its own finesse stat but like adds a different one?

[fierce crest]

also precision is also its own thing, it adds the same thing finesse damage adds and also adds raw damage

[spice veldt]

the math eludes me

[fierce crest]

the meth

[river stirrup]

now with recent changes, would u guys go with void or surge ? and with which talents

[spice veldt]

@viral solstice is +60% Finesse the same as +60% weakspot/crit dmg?

[viral solstice]

yes

[river dawn]

Before the change id only use surge sometimes for group cc, but now i use both and i love both and they work with most builds i tried so far but im not a pro.

[fierce crest]

is that then multiplied by the finesse stat numbers?

[autumn smelt]

imagine if an aura in the game healed like 0.5% of max health every time an elite was killed within coherency

[fierce crest]

void is nuts strong

so if you only care about power

that one

but lightning is cool

[river dawn]

hound phase would feel like a free ammo/hp replenisher

[fierce crest]

not elites

[uncut hamlet]

thatd be really fucking strong no?

with the amount of elites on higher difficulties

[fierce crest]

there should be more healing stuff

[river dawn]

Oh? dont they restore our ammo when we kill them?

[uncut hamlet]

i played witha zealot with the corruption aura earlier and it was really nice honestly

[limber heath]

tbh i feel that there's already enough healing from med stations and medkits... there's a reason stuff like zealot healing got reduced to 25% max.
That being said each class having some sort of limited healing (say stuff that heals up the current wound under some condition, or heals allies an extremely small amount) woudl be neat

[fierce crest]

they are specials, so anything that procs off that counts

[river stirrup]

ye, i dont have a lot of hours on this game but i feel like the purg was nice as a beginner but too limited for malice/heresy.I still struggled to use the void properly. And I just can't stand the trauma lol

[timid sphinx]

I was trying out some perks and i noticed i had 12 shards on my assail what perk did that 🤔

[fierce crest]

purg is still great

[autumn smelt]

im aware
probably a lower amount than that honestly

but it would be strong

[fierce crest]

you just need to be aware that youre losing long range damage

[autumn smelt]

better than 10% heavy damage

[fierce crest]

so probably dont bring smite

[timid sphinx]

I'd make that an ult tbh

[autumn smelt]

cuz that definitely is useful

[timid sphinx]

Like how bubble shield heals 10% toughtness every second

[uncut hamlet]

a temp aura or smth? maybe like if there was a tech priest clas, temp nano swarm

[timid sphinx]

Could buff it to also heal 0.25% health every second maybe

[uncut hamlet]

idk fs probably has better ideas than me

but its a solid concept

just needs to be tuned very carefully

[limber heath]

aren't a buncha people waiting for techpriest or something

[timid sphinx]

Sinve the beta yeah

Since

[uncut hamlet]

everyone who knows 40k at all has been basically

[limber heath]

we do have 5 character slots so like its reasonable to expect a 5th and they're iconic

[uncut hamlet]

^

plus we have 80% stat cap so its reasonable to assume they have more stuff planned

[timid sphinx]

Fun fact about that

[unique mist]

Would you take voidstrike or purgatus staff with Assail

[timid sphinx]

There's a mod that lets you have more character slots

[limber heath]

:( i can't wait to refarm everything

[timid sphinx]

Somehow

[uncut hamlet]

thats

interesting

[timid sphinx]

I think it increases the number to 8

[limber heath]

that sounds like gray area of violating TOS

[timid sphinx]

Yeah

It does

I think

[limber heath]

because each character has their own melk bounties

and all the resources are shared

[timid sphinx]

This is like an old mod so idk if it still works

[limber heath]

so you're effectively exploiting and extra 3 characters of melk bounties

that being said he never brings anything useful so it shouldn't matter

[uncut hamlet]

yea

[limber heath]

you hardly need more melk coins than you can get with 5 characters

[timid sphinx]

Melk should give me his luscious lips weekly.

[uncut hamlet]

idk if id download it even if it does work

[fierce crest]

both good

use whats fun

[timid sphinx]

Me neither don't wanna risk it
Also theres4 classes so why would i relevel a class 😭

[uncut hamlet]

fr

[timid sphinx]

I love using the lightning staff with biolightning

[uncut hamlet]

and rebuild your armory on each one too

pain

[timid sphinx]

Especially wih he empowered bug

The*

[restive slate]

You have to compete with Hallowette on that

[uncut hamlet]

has psyker ever had a patch without bugs lmaooo

[timid sphinx]

Damnit yeah

There's another psyker bug that just drives me nuts

There's a mesh bug in first person on the psyker krieg chestpiece that just
Makes one of your fingers have a massive super visible spike

[limber heath]

i grab void or surge because it fills the carapace gap that assail leaves.

[restive slate]

Kriegsmen are longer than others is all

[limber heath]

void being "better" because they uberbuffed it

[timid sphinx]

And it happens all the time too 😭

[timid sphinx]

Need that spike finger to stav heretics in the trenches

[sharp shoal]

so they buffed my favorite staff again

also ain't been here in quite a while

[limber heath]

void? yea thing slaps although i didn't play psyker before the patch (didn't play the game much besides zealot) so not sure how much it got helped.

[spice veldt]

it got an extremely good glowup

[sharp shoal]

i've played all 4 classes

[spice veldt]

from 6 cleave (80% damage) to 10 cleave; better base damage by +70%, and a better finesse modifier

[sharp shoal]

i started with zealot then vet og and lastly psyker

[spice veldt]

also wtf why did damage modify cleave

[kind jay]

void went from being ok at one thing to being good at everything

[sharp shoal]

nice

[fierce crest]

any tweak suggestions here, i like assail but im trying to make sure my weapons outshine it in some places

[spice veldt]

oh yeah and penning bulwarks

[sharp shoal]

well

i went around cutting crushers in half today with a power sword

[fierce crest]

that axe does not have the right blessing dont tell me that one i know

[sharp shoal]

axes are great tho

i just love seeing that corpse after you cut a crusher in half

very satisfying

[soft notch]

do you need to use BR for the Prioritize Targets penance?

[harsh cobalt]

is it a bug that smite generates no peril at all when empowered psionics is active?

it doesn't seem like it's supposed to work that way

[loud temple]

Oh I was going to ask that 2.

[fringe garden]

Well it doesn't even say that it is supposed to reduce the peril cost for smite

so Ima go out on a limb and assume yes lol

[harsh cobalt]

I know brain burst is supposed to be free cast basically, but seems like they applied it to smite too

[loud temple]

Infinite Smite is kind of fun to run.

[fringe garden]

Even without infinite its plenty good, though

[chrome patrol]

I think it was said its a bug

[sterile saddle]

I don't know what you're going for. But this is what I run, i'm .. Mildly successful. Average about 6-7/10 wins

[loud temple]

One thing I don't understand is if holding is supposed to be more of a lignting bolt. Because both normal and alternate fire just seems to do the same damage. Besides charging itletting it target more enemies.

[sterile saddle]

its bugged, probably

[fringe garden]

I almost never use it without charging

Except for maybe to just proc the push real quick

[sterile saddle]

does the charge even effect anything?

[fierce crest]

true aim lets you build crits for revolver and shards
mettle and ethereal shards lets you replenish lots of toughness from a single shard
momentum lets that single shard do more damage
evasion for crit synergy
warp rider for damage

[fringe garden]

Definitely increases spread and makes it deal some amount of damage

[loud temple]

The damage increase is very minimal though. Like from 10 per tick to 20.

[sterile saddle]

if you throw your shards and swap to a weapon with high crit, u get crit for free

[harsh cobalt]

10 per tick to 20 would be 100% increase in damage, wouldn't call it minimal

[spark fractal]

yeah i really love our talent tree, sooo much synergy there and creative builds, imo it's better than the vet tree

[sterile saddle]

the weakspot dmg isn't worth 3 points for me, i can get more elsewhere

[loud temple]

Actually the damage is exactly the same. From testing it again. ANd I meant minimal because the tooltip makes it sound like the charge is supposed to be a heavy dmg ability.

Sr for the ping./

[harsh cobalt]

vet tree has strong 3 obvious branches, with bonuses on the side. It's easier to jump to alternate branches and get something good out of it in psyker tree. But the very bottom of the tree in psyker one is actually so impactful it locks you into 3 distinct...things. I think both have good things going for them

[fierce crest]

i wish there was backtracking allowed in these spots

[fringe garden]

You'd still almost always use the charge in any scenario where there is more than 1 enemy in front of you for Smite, though

It definitely chains far more

[fierce crest]

mainly so i could get all warpfire talents with assail

[sterile saddle]

You don't really need it, the first soulfire one is good enough

[spark fractal]

yeah that's unfortunate, vet tree has several places where you can go horizontal so there are fewer locked talents like this

[fierce crest]

whats funny is the last branch isnt horizontal yet you can backtrack anyway

[sterile saddle]

shhh

i'll cry when they fix it

[fierce crest]

which i would also backtrack to

[spark fractal]

it's...kind of horizontal, they kind of don't want to tie your choice of ult to your choice of keystone, which is commendable

[fringe garden]

Yeah pretty sure that's intentional

[sterile saddle]

oh good

[harsh cobalt]

I don't think it's broken. It's visually not horizontal for eye candy purposes IMO

it's meant to work that way

[loud temple]

I think its fine, you can still only choose a single capstone mechanic.

[fringe garden]

Especially since Teleking Shield would have all the options anyway

[fierce crest]

could have just moved the toughness talent thats in every keystone branch above the branches so it could split

[spark fractal]

yeah, otherwise people would sacrifice every ounce of utility to get two capstones, and one capstone builds would never be competitive, there's no utility better than having both warp charges AND empowered psionics

[sterile saddle]

that'd be sick

It would also be nice if DD highlighted mobs for allies

and they could help u build charges

[fierce crest]

itd be nice if it highlighted mobs for yourself

(its bugged)

[sterile saddle]

it does highlight mobs for me

[loud temple]

Same.

[fierce crest]

its not consistent

[sterile saddle]

I think it scales with coherency range

[loud temple]

The highlight does work, most of the time, some times it does just go away for no reason though.

[fierce crest]

if you keep a sharp eye on your stacks, theyll go up on non glowy kills sometimes

[sterile saddle]

I just assume I kill things quickly enough the highlight mechanic doesn't proc

but i don't use it that often cause losing all ur stacks sucks

[loud temple]

I have noticed that once you hit 15 stacks there are no more targets so it just goes away.

They should just let you refresh it at 15 imo.

[sterile saddle]

or decay slowly like charges, it took them like a year to fix warp charges

[loud temple]

That too, like it goes slowly back down, giving you the chance to build it up again.

[fierce crest]

another reason i want more back tracking, im ok with every talent at the top except these two, but i want assail

they really dont want you to pair assail with warpfire

[sterile saddle]

It'd be stupid overpowered, it's already hella strong

[fierce crest]

the right side has all the crits and the left side has all the warpfire, but the warpfire staff is the one that loves crits the most

[loud temple]

I mean yea that thing destroys elites and specialists.

[sterile saddle]

you'd set a horde on fire in like 6 shards

[fierce crest]

sure

[sterile saddle]

they do let u get the first one tho, which is uber strong still

[fierce crest]

but thats assail

thats not warpfire

assail will probably get a justified nerf

[sterile saddle]

4 stacks of warpfire toasts things

[fierce crest]

theres also this one which you can get

but my only spare point if im getting the first warpfire talent is 20% damage at high peril

which

is awesome

i guess i could drop mettle too

[loud temple]

Yea I have to say. Warp raputre seems like, very meh, compared to Creeping Flames.

[fierce crest]

but that makes the guaranteed crit shard from true aim replenish so much toughness

[fierce crest]

if it 1shot pox walkers at 100% peril

itd be neat

it doesnt even 1shot groaners at 100% peril

[sterile saddle]

the fire?

[fierce crest]

the damage

[sterile saddle]

the flat damage?

[fierce crest]

it says 200 but it lies

[loud temple]

^

[unique mist]

Is it doing less than it is supposed to?

[stable silo]

does assail do warp charges or empower psionics?

[sterile saddle]

are you venting at 88 peril?

[sterile saddle]

you can pick either one

[unique mist]

why 88?

[sterile saddle]

isn't 88% the cap?

[unique mist]

I'm new so I was legitimately asking lol

[fierce crest]

oh wait, im getting my old stats confused

it does 200

but groaners dont have 200 hp anymore

[sterile saddle]

oh, someone shared a chart in here earlier, about how "Based on Peril" works

if u want max stacks or max damage you need use your ability at like 88%

or higher

[unique mist]

ah k

[fierce crest]

no

90% does less damage than 100%

[spice veldt]

that table was about creeping flames

[fierce crest]

and with stuff like BB often people say your starting peril

[sterile saddle]

o

so it's different with warp rupture?

[stable silo]

arc i think i remember you from waaaaay back when darktide first released

[sterile saddle]

I figured it'd be uniform. that's silly that it isn't

[stable silo]

you and sean

[loud temple]

End of the day, Creeping Flames does way more damage even if you are not much into using warpfire.

[fierce crest]

ok ur smart, which is better, with revolver
blue or red

[spice veldt]

yeah i've been playing and hanging around the discord

[spice veldt]

am not smart enough 😔

[fierce crest]

ive theory crafted to the max, but i still cant decide

[spice veldt]

maybe just take a +toughness node if nothing else

malefic and perfect timing are for assail

[fierce crest]

dont really like battle meditation without peril weapons, but warpfire so yummy

[fierce crest]

yes

[spice veldt]

empathic evasion is also for assail because of the crits

hmmm

[fierce crest]

yes

[spice veldt]

i'd just take a toughness node given your situation

[fierce crest]

mettle also good for assail, one shard is a bunch of crits with true aim at the bottom

[spice veldt]

oh you don't have soulstealer taken

[stable silo]

wouldnt u take the elite dmg over the CDR if your running CDR on ability active?

[fierce crest]

swinging into hordes and swapping for one shard to get a quick toughness boost

[spice veldt]

yeah as the ultra-busted toughness regen option

[fierce crest]

yeah no warp weapons

just assail

[spice veldt]

still pretty good with just Assail

+15% toughness per kill babeee

Assail attacks are also uninterruptible so you can just throw them and not get staggered out of them

if you ever need to regen all of your toughness in a pinch

[upbeat parcel]

this is my last redacted psyker penace, what's the best way to get it now? soulblaze build?

[fierce crest]

any mission that doesnt have a 25 second elevator

and soulblaze

[sterile saddle]

hi intensity malice would probably work, you could probably do this on a bridge event or the last stage of the forge

[fierce crest]

i feel like the talents i put in red are already very good for that

and the blue build i dont really have a point to spare

i really like crit toughness cuz its the only one that works with mundane weapons

[spice veldt]

yeah it's just a matter of safety vs damage

[upbeat parcel]

thanks siblings I will come back dripped out

[spice veldt]

but if you're undecided, I would just take Soulstealer because of how busted it is

[fierce crest]

but soulstealer instead of what

[limber heath]

woudln't it be best to do it on hi heresy at least for the increased spawns

[fierce crest]

i guess evasion on the red build

[spice veldt]

you know, i just realized i misread your question

[fierce crest]

:P

[spice veldt]

prolly red cuz i like my damage

I would take soulstealer over empathic evasion imo

[fierce crest]

fair

[sterile saddle]

idk, hi on heresy strangely feels empty, I feel like I see more waves on Malice. Or damnation

[fierce crest]

ive been using red but i really wanted to try out combustion :(

[spice veldt]

true

combustion is insanely good

[fierce crest]

i mean

[spice veldt]

if nothing else, you could give up Perfect Timing for it

[fierce crest]

i guess i could sac

yea

you think momentum is better than perfect?

nvm it def is

[spice veldt]

yeah max 20% and synergizes with non-warp kills for your playstyle

[fierce crest]

i really hope they nerf assail in a way that keeps it good when only used sometimes

like less charges but faster speed or something

[spice veldt]

prob just less ammo regen and less max ammo

[sterile saddle]

I just use it for trash mobs and zerker packs

[spice veldt]

the main problem is that it can be used as your primary weapon

[fierce crest]

which is cool actiually

[maiden hornet]

i hope they buff smite

[sterile saddle]

me too

[fierce crest]

maybe give it a talent that makes it how it is currently but nerfs your other stuff somehow

[willow hazel]

If they don't nerf Combustion Psyker is still going to be really strong.

[spice veldt]

mmm I think constraining Assail to a quickswap weapon would ultimately be better

I'm not a fan of autoaim weapons like Assail already

[maiden hornet]

i always thought asail would be tie into actual gunplay not just an auto aim missile

[fierce crest]

god i hate the current autoaim and accuracy

[spice veldt]

it's meh in certain situations and absolutely cracked in other scenarios

[fierce crest]

giving it less autoaim but actual accuracy would be a buff in my eyes

[spice veldt]

rip shooter patrols and their family

[maiden hornet]

like blessing the bullet with warp energy or something along that line

[spice veldt]

yeah, requiring you to aim over enemies more

since it has some soft lock on even after your cursor leaves the target

[fierce crest]

a man taking up the middle 60% of my screen

assail missed

[primal aurora]

Is there a way to reduce damage from pox bursters (green suicide bombers)?

[fierce crest]

slide backwards

[keen harbor]

I am just going to brag about this one

[maiden hornet]

Push them back?

[primal aurora]

I meant curios perks. Damage resistance vs [what?]

[astral oracle]

I am finally returning home

I can finally

smite

[spice veldt]

Corruption Resistance is the only thing that will reduce their damage, and it won't do that much

stack HP if poxbursters are ruining your day

[primal aurora]

Why not toughness?

[spice veldt]

They ignore your toughness

[astral oracle]

Why would toughness matter on a poxburster

They do corruption

[primal aurora]

Oh

[spice veldt]

corruption isn't what decides it

Poxbursters inflict non-standard damage

[maiden hornet]

How are the ways they can buff smite without it being too powerful?

[spice veldt]

Poxhounds deal melee damage (98% of their melee damage is converted to corruption), so your toughness will tank hounds temporarily

[astral oracle]

It’s already pretty good without the bug

Just gotta learn how to use it

[primal aurora]

Make it cost spell slots.

[fierce crest]

i just realized, if soul stealer is that much better than quietude, this is the 2 builds

and really its probably momentum vs combustion

[maiden hornet]

I mean I use it as a cc tool to control everything

Though I’m not sure if I’m leaving as much of an impact for the team

[fierce crest]

both synergize well with non peril weapons
all uncommon kills spread warpfire
or all non warp kills buff assail when quick swapped

much easier choice

since ive been wanting to try combustion

[upbeat parcel]

smite is pretty good but it's the worse option of the 3

[fierce crest]

and my old build is improved anyway should i want to come back

[upbeat parcel]

why stun when you can just delete the target instead

it needs something more

[maiden hornet]

Yeah but I wonder if that is a inherent problem with the design (it being a cc tool) in a horde shooter

[spice veldt]

I'd make Enfeeble last for some time after being Smited

[fierce crest]

its fast stun and damage, vs BBs slow damage

[spice veldt]

so that it's more of a combo weapon

[upbeat parcel]

maybe increase the damage boost it gives to allies to 20, maybe 25%

[astral oracle]

Brain burst is definitely worse now

Compared to before

My poor purgatus memes

[upbeat parcel]

I still like using BB for armored enemies but staffs are so strong now u can just use those

[fierce crest]

the fact that you cant have rapid BBs and keep your warp charges after ult is so sad

[upper steeple]

how do y'all show the entire tree btw?

[fierce crest]

mod

[astral oracle]

mod

[upper steeple]

ah, gotcha

danke

[fierce crest]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/214

[astral oracle]

but you can do it in the build maker on a website now

[fierce crest]

i have mine set to 40%

[maiden hornet]

I need that

[astral oracle]

they updated it to have talent tree

[fierce crest]

but you can go as low as 10%

for some reason

[maiden hornet]

Talk about being compact

[astral oracle]

mf looking like a .2 note speed on a rhythm game

[maiden hornet]

What keystone synergise well with smite? Not including the bugged interaction with empowered of course

[astral oracle]

god damn

[fierce crest]

it defaults to 100% so you gotta change the settings for it to do anything

[fierce crest]

i think empowered would still be good

[brave turret]

Games with funky movement tech you need to use to be a top tier player kinda annoy me

[fierce crest]

but honestly i think all keystone are good with all blitzs

i just think DD is a bit weak compared to the other keystones

[maiden hornet]

Would warp siphon the one on the left he better for better reducing peril generation? Since smite does generate quite a bit

[brave turret]

Dd is a overhyped passive tbb

*tbh

[fierce crest]

both are good

[brave turret]

And empowered psionis feels only useful for smite

[fierce crest]

nah its good for all 3

[brave turret]

Warp charges is way better

You half your peril

[maiden hornet]

For some reason I thought DD would have a talent to make it so that allies can trigger it

[brave turret]

For stuff like assail

And increase its damage massively

[maiden hornet]

Ultimate team support as a Psyker

[brave turret]

Practically does the empowered psionic for it as long as you have full warp charges @fierce crest

[astral oracle]

imagine having full warp charges

god i love having 64 domes on screen

[fierce crest]

on demand toughness, double the damage boost, free peril and charge cost

[upbeat parcel]

what ability do yall use with Assail?

[fierce crest]

siphon is prob better, and thats what i use

[upbeat parcel]

I like using the dome

[fierce crest]

but empowered is good

[upbeat parcel]

Scrier's Gaze makes me blow myself up too much micro when there's shit happening

[brave turret]

Double damage boost for a single throw and maybe 2 more if you have them built up

[fierce crest]

and on demand toughness and free cost

[maiden hornet]

I like the dome as well

[fierce crest]

also 1 less talent point

[maiden hornet]

What’s better than blocking bullets? Blocking bullets and regenerating toughness

[astral oracle]

I use the right side ability for my assail but might switch to dome into warp charges

[white oar]

what are some good perks for purgatus

perhaps +25% damage to unarmoured so I can melt hordes faster?

[covert saffron]

What is it that you need to be able to block tank daemonhosts?

[upbeat parcel]

bottom right path I'm pretty sure

[white oar]

ogryn shield

[upbeat parcel]

also maybe the shield force sword? it'll still be tough

[fierce crest]

you melt hords already, i like maniac and flak

cuz those will be mixed into hordes commonly

[fierce crest]

orgyn shield

[covert saffron]

Ye but I've seen that with peril blocking and some other stuff you can block them forever as psyker as well. Is it just the peril block talent and the block cost blessing?

[white oar]

very true yeah

[fierce crest]

probably bubble shield

with sanct

[white oar]

I was considering elites to burst down groups of gunners / shotgunners better, but maniacs is probably the better option

[spice veldt]

and stacking stamina, since Kinetic Deflection is 4x of your stamina bar

unless they changed it with this patch

[fierce crest]

your stamina bar doesnt matter

its your stamina cost for blocking that does

[summer prairie]

The formula hasn't changed, stamina still matters

[fierce crest]

but total stamina would still help after you run out of peril

neat

[summer prairie]

If you stack enough you can block a DH indefinitely without even moving, particularly with a MKV DS

[fierce crest]

also quell speed might be nice to get some extra peril in between flurries

[stable silo]

do u guys think perilous combustion (soulfire on elite kill) is worth it? or should i swap it for malaefic momentum (4% dmg to warp attacks per stax)

hard to tell during matches if soulfire is doing anything really lol

[fierce crest]

both good

[fierce crest]

was literally just theory crafting that

[upbeat parcel]

soulfire is huge for warp charge procs if ur going for that

[astral oracle]

Yeah

Perilous combustion good for warp charge

[stable silo]

i went psychic vampire because i think 4% on all kills > 10% on soulfire kills

just IMO

[upbeat parcel]

depends on what you're running honestly

[fierce crest]

i think its just purg staff

[stable silo]

oh thats fair

[astral oracle]

Nah

[fierce crest]

if you have purg, run soulfire stacks

[astral oracle]

There’s a talent on

[fierce crest]

if not

then dont

[astral oracle]

I think trauma or voidstrike

That applies soulfire

[fierce crest]

you should not use a voidstrike blessing for that

but trauma maybe

[astral oracle]

Should be trauma

[white oar]

tbh even with purgatus I still go for the 4%

[fierce crest]

its both

[white oar]

because theres a decent chance an ogryn or zealot is killing the horde equally as fast

[fierce crest]

still counts

[upbeat parcel]

also soulblaze does low effort damage it adds up to a fair bit

[fierce crest]

anything that you set on fire counts when it dies

[astral oracle]

Purgatus doesn’t do enough damage anymore with the health increase for me tbh

[white oar]

even if the fire itself doesnt kill it?

[fierce crest]

correct

[white oar]

ok nvm lol

[fierce crest]

it has to be your fire

but you can kill it with direct damage

[astral oracle]

Cause I haven’t been getting shit for warpcharges

[fierce crest]

or a teamate can

[white oar]

I will switch

[astral oracle]

I need to look at the talent again when I get home

[white oar]

but also im not even running warp charges in my current build

good to know for the future however

[astral oracle]

Just make multiple load outs

[white oar]

I have yet to make a loadout

I really should

[astral oracle]

Just click the + button

[fierce crest]

very nice

[astral oracle]

damn

[upbeat parcel]

I miss warp charge stacking passives a lot of them are gone

[astral oracle]

it’s right there

[upbeat parcel]

33% damage reduction come back

[astral oracle]

Same

[fierce crest]

i jsut miss warp charges on every BB kill

[astral oracle]

Purgatus did so much work for me pre-update

[upbeat parcel]

yeah no warp charge on BB is a huge nerf

[astral oracle]

But now it feels iffy

[tame bane]

i miss the emperor

[astral oracle]

Did warp charges do anything different back then

Other than the soulblaze on shriek use when have warp charges

[white oar]

I want to use the shield, but push synergizes with brain burst so well smh

im not sure which is better lol

[upbeat parcel]

lots of passives scaled up with warp charges

[fierce crest]

if they made all keystone stacks named warp charges, BB could have a talent that gives a warp charge on kill

[upbeat parcel]

damage, damage reduction and casting speed I think?

[fierce crest]

[astral oracle]

Last I played was before auric so I forgot what it did

I only remember the soulblaze one

Cause purgatus go brr

[fierce crest]

all the lvl 30 ones did i think

10% burning enemy kill
double stacks
BB attack speed

oh scaled with

not generated

[fierce crest]

kinetic shield said it was based on warp chages in game

but it was based on peril

[keen harbor]

can veteran or psyker take one of those assassination target bosses from 80% HP to 0 when his shields are down?

[fierce crest]

krak grenades do a fuckton to him

idk about psyk

[keen harbor]

6 krak nades possibly?

[fierce crest]

3 nades plus an ammo box

maybe

idk if you could throw them fast enough

[keen harbor]

okay, so 2 vets could do it, I guess

[unique mist]

Is that an app?

Or just in game screenshot

[keen harbor]

looks like a mod

[fierce crest]

small talent trees mod

set to 40%

[timid sphinx]

Idk how visible it is because this image is pixelated as fuck but heres the weird hand mesh glitch i mentioned earlier

[fierce crest]

spiky

[timid sphinx]

It is on there
Constantly

[royal falcon]

lil assail spike

[timid sphinx]

With every weapon

[astral oracle]

ty bb

[timid sphinx]

It's not even just assail its just the krieg arms 😭

Also this gem

[astral oracle]

Yeah ascending blaze felt a lot better back then than what it is now

[timid sphinx]

Not sure if it's just a thing on the female model tho

[astral oracle]

The 10% soulblaze

[fierce crest]

for psyker my guess would be BB with resonance

[keen harbor]

Well I was chunking his shield with voidstrike, so it wasn't me

I think the other psyker was using BB, so it might be that

[timid sphinx]

Fun fact about assail

If you shoot it above a bulwark it will go past the shield and stagger it

[left turtle]

What blessings should i be aiming for with the Purgatus staff?

[keen harbor]

Honestly, it doesn't really matter in this version of the game.
Just take whatever 2 of the 3 choices you get.

[shell torrent]

Is brain rupture or voidstrike more dps on bosses?

[ivory solstice]

warp siphon, empowered psionics, or disrupt destiny for assail?

[royal falcon]

disrupt destiny generally seems kinda meh from what I’m hearing

[ivory solstice]

yeah EP sounds kinda cool to me

[keen harbor]

just don't select DD

[stable silo]

from my testing between emp psi or warp siph warp siphon seems to be winning

feels smoother for some reason

just IMO

[keen harbor]

I think it meshes well with the peril reduction, and being able to kill elites reliably

[stable silo]

im actually using the toughness on warp charge feels nice but im running venting shriek with the creeping flames talnet

cause im dumb and muscle memory from old psyker hitting hard

[keen harbor]

I find myself blowing up more often, because the max peril doesn't seem to cap anymore. Before you could cast at 95%ish peril, and you would never blow up hitting 100%

Now, if I cast at 95%ish peril, I sometimes blow up

[royal falcon]

edge better

[keen harbor]

If it was consistent, I could

[unique mist]

As a newbie psyker who has blown himself up plenty of times, I've only done it when casting at 100 peril

[keen harbor]

at this point IDK if the game is lagging in some way, or if it's another bug

[covert saffron]

Still doesn't one shot infested even max stacked . I do 368 damage out of 375 hp. Rank 4 slaughterer would have done it, or I just need a veteran with 3% aura and it'll work.

[royal falcon]

errrmmmm

just crit ez

[keen harbor]

Illis isn't supposed to one shot pox walkers without force applied to it

[covert saffron]

not supposed to, but it's close tho

[fierce crest]

it used to

[covert saffron]

more first target or a rank 4 blessing would get me there

[keen harbor]

I mean, if it did, it'd be so dumb

[fierce crest]

whats going on with multi shields

i dont have them

i cast double shields like 5 times that mission

and triple shields once

[austere burrow]

warp charge bug

[keen harbor]

Do you have warp siphon?

[fierce crest]

i do

[austere burrow]

as long as you have any it gives you a full refund

[fierce crest]

oh neat

[keen harbor]

7.5% refund bugged with 75% refund

[austere burrow]

only bugged on shield for whatever reason

[fierce crest]

so i was just getting warp charges at lucky timings

[keen harbor]

yup

[primal aurora]

Shield seems to be most the most useful ability. No safety net of venting shriek, but should use to eventually.

[worn cypress]

I’m liking shield more and more

[austere burrow]

i think shield would still be really good after the bug is fixed

[worn cypress]

the specials stun of the square shield is clutch

[austere burrow]

it's pretty op rn if you use the bug though lol

[keen harbor]

Shield also has a casting bug, where you can't deploy it if the animation doesn't complete

[primal aurora]

I actually like dome shield more. It helps vs unlucky placed gunners when you are overwhelmed.

[upbeat parcel]

the toughness regen is huge too

[keen harbor]

although that animation casting bug happens with Vet's Shout too

[austere burrow]

i feel like dome shield is more useful ya

[ionic frost]

haven't played in a month+...does the average damnation player pull more or less weight now?

[upbeat parcel]

but seeing teammates rush at gunners ignoring my dome hurts me

[primal aurora]

Throw shield at gunners

[fierce crest]

just play auric

[unique mist]

Can someone explain the difference between the 3 blaze force swords

[austere burrow]

dome definitely clutches out bad situations more than square in my experience

[fierce crest]

deimos is single target, illisi is cleave

[keen harbor]

overall win rate in damnation feels the same as last patch. Except there are some seriously derpy players now

[primal aurora]

Does shield protect from snipers?

[fierce crest]

obscurus get a bit more cleave than deimos for much worse single target

[keen harbor]

Dome shield does not protect from snipers, but wall does

[ionic frost]

so like 95% win rate?

[primal aurora]

Ouch, that hurts

[unique mist]

crossplay is active, can't turn it off I don't think, plus xbox version just released, so there are a LOT of new players now (like me) that will bring down the average

[fierce crest]

the special on obscurus and deimos is a single target blast, on illisi its an empowered sweep

[keen harbor]

Yeah, but I've gotten days with 2/7 wins

[covert saffron]

does it not protect against snipers? I just ran a sniper infested auric match and it seemed to work just fine against them

[ionic frost]

welp, wish me luck on the build i just made up =)

my skills used to be superior

[unique mist]

The first t4 mission I did (and subsequently failed) at lvl 20 had a lvl 8 xbox player in it lol who was completely lost

[ionic frost]

this game seems like it'd be bad on xbox without mouse/keyboard support =D

[unique mist]

it has it

[keen harbor]

Someone needs to test dome shield vs snipers conclusively, because I've heard both

[unique mist]

Actually idk about mouse

[keen harbor]

And had both happen

[ionic frost]

i assume i won't be able to sit in the center of a horde and kill everything around me just by swinging my combat axe and spinning around

like i used to =*

=(

[fierce crest]

its just a shooter

not like its got enough stuff to need a full keyboard for

[ionic frost]

might have to push again...

[unique mist]

but when I plug in my keyboard to type, the keys change

[upbeat parcel]

I still see derpy players at max level so it's a constant

[keen harbor]

I absolutely hate the to skip the end game result screen, you have to hit enter now

[upbeat parcel]

I think at diff 5 u run into better players though

[primal aurora]

That was a thing?

[ionic frost]

i'm 133 missions away from 1500

[unique mist]

It freezes on me constantly

[keen harbor]

I assume it's enter, because that's the confirm button on a gamepad

[ionic frost]

yes, with brutal momentum letting you cleave through an unlimited number of enemies, with high mouse sensitivity

i was good at it

[covert saffron]

Diff 3 and 4 matches are unironically harder than 5s because of the types of players that queue up for those lmao

[fierce crest]

theres a mod

[keen harbor]

reults screen freezing has been around since last year. they never fixed it. Presumably it's someone with a potato PC

[fierce crest]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/213

[unique mist]

Its really strange because everything freezes but I know I haven't crashed because there is like ropes in the background still bouncing

[keen harbor]

That's a cool mod, but I would really like the game itself to have the option

[restive slate]

Supposedly they'll fix it next update

[keen harbor]

Hopefully soon, because I remember on game launch it took like 2 months to fix the key you had to press to skip intro cinematic

[ionic frost]

hold space to play game =P

[keen harbor]

yeah, it wasn't just a key press... you had to hold it

fatshark really bad at UI is a continuing trend

[last sleet]

Oh, fatshark allows mods?

[worn cypress]

yea

[keen harbor]

there are a bunch of mods that are extremely useful

[worn cypress]

they’re ok with almost anything “that doesnt ruin the enjoyment of others”

[small garnet]

question for trinkets:

max hp or max toughness?

[last sleet]

Any recommended must have mods?

[keen harbor]

scoreboard, sorted missions, book finder, barter with hadron, creature spawner, etc.

[restive slate]

You can check out Mez's Mod Pack

[unique mist]

Toughness

Psyker has low base toughness but so many toughness regen perks

[keen harbor]

and no longer has poor HP

[worn cypress]

I’ve always liked all toughness base but +% hp perk

[keen harbor]

You can stack +15% from 3 curios

[worn cypress]

you dont overly need the toughness boost now either, feels like base hp/tough is solid rn

some folks prefer health to get outta fire and shit like that

[last sleet]

I have 123 toughness and enemies eat trough that in the blink of an eye. But also it regens crazy fast.

[worn cypress]

some actually like stam

so could go whichever feels nice

[keen harbor]

123 toughness is 33 more than what I run with

[fierce crest]

chat block

[covert saffron]

Tested it rn. They seem to not even want to shoot you at all unless you get right up to the edge of the dome. But even if you're at the edge, it does still block.

[worn cypress]

even if you stack em up in 5s it’ll melt away instantly

just gotta git gud for the most part

[last sleet]

I play psyker, that'll just hold up my shards. :D Or does it swap to melee?

[fierce crest]

swap to melee first

[keen harbor]

ah, so people getting shot through dome shield must be sitting in a depleted but still showing shield then

[fierce crest]

and it only blocks

doesnt do any other m2 thing

[shell torrent]

Oh right there's like a 2 second delay before the dome disappears after the effect ends 🤣

Seems like you're completely immune to anything ranged inside the dome even if they walk in though?

[keen harbor]

yeah, enemy shots inside the shield do nothing

[last sleet]

Alright, nice can these mods just be installed trough vortex?

[shell torrent]

Like I was just staring at a trapper that walked in my dome and it just ate all his nets

[keen harbor]

okay, so if dome blocks sniper shots, then it's significantly better than wall

Even if you could only plonk down 2 when they fix warp siphon

3 walls vs 2 domes. EZ choice.

[shell torrent]

What's the use case of wall just stunning specials?

[keen harbor]

for laughs

[restive slate]

Also if you put the domes at a certain distance, they look like bewbs huehuehue

[shell torrent]

Wonder if I can get 100% uptime on the 50% toughness reduction 🤣

[keen harbor]

Walls will reliably stop bursters, muties, and dogs from running through. But it also gives no toughness regen

[restive slate]

Know what else will stop them? Bullets

[covert saffron]

what are bullets? All I know is warp

[keen harbor]

yeah, they both do that

[restive slate]

Embrace the gun psyker

[astral citrus]

Are any of these staffs unlocked gud or should i just go with guns for psyker

[timid sphinx]

Visual bug i was talking about earlier is way more visible in this

Version with more circles and arrows

[keen harbor]

all the staffs are good. It just depends on if you like how they work

[covert saffron]

it's visible in the vid I just posted, with my sword out it's right there the whole time lol

I never noticed it before but now you've ruined it

[astral citrus]

dont like the trauma staff

[timid sphinx]

My friend
Equip assail

[keen harbor]

okay, well just use assail then

[left turtle]

I rock the Purgatus staff, i dont think im gonna ever look back

[timid sphinx]

It's going to be incyour face all the time

[restive slate]

Its just psyker starting to mutate due to long term warp use

[timid sphinx]

Radiation in krieg is a motherfucker

[restive slate]

All staffs are good at this point

[long kraken]

voidstrike is fun

[keen harbor]

void strike is really similar to grenade launchers. except it doesn't arc

[covert saffron]

I'm a voidstriker. It basically feels like brain burst with pierce, which just allows you to run assail anyway

[left turtle]

they all offer different playstyles

[fierce crest]

all staffs are good

[left turtle]

try em all out and see which you like

[astral citrus]

also what be this?

[fierce crest]

broken description

[covert saffron]

That's been a bug since the very launch of the game

idk why it's still not fixed

[timid sphinx]

I thought they removed those errors 😭

[astral citrus]

wb melee weps?