psyker-class

[acoustic spade]

I like my Purgatus staff blessings for a different type of flame action

[viscid matrix]

the fire already staggers, why would you need to stagger again with barrage?

also not 100% sure what is a close range kill, but im pretty sure its melee range kill to activate it

[spice veldt]

any kill within 15m

[acoustic spade]

Fire DoT kills activate it

[spice veldt]

this is mines

Soulstealer and True Aim are extremely important picks

[viscid matrix]

so it only applies stagger to enemies within half the distace of close range, and you already stagger then if you light them on fire

[spice veldt]

Perilous Combustion is another extremely powerful pick (one node away from Soulstealer)

[viscid matrix]

you have Psychic Leeching, why would you need soulstealer?

[spice veldt]

it's +15% toughness per warp kill

[upper lark]

Tanks

[storm mauve]

what 2 perks should i have on my surge staff for damnation?

[chilly moon]

How's this for a voidstrike

[spice veldt]

assail's peril generation is not that much anyways

oh wait psychic leeching

that's the EP one right

[upper lark]

[viscid matrix]

yep

[spice veldt]

it's fairly unreliable

I don't like probablistic toughness regen

I want to know that I'll get toughness back if I throw out X amount of shards

and Soulstealer has better value than Psychic Leeching anyways

[acoustic spade]

its safety for when not everyone around me is necessarily on fire

those clusterfuck 360 degree hordes

[spice veldt]

Soul stealer = 15% toughness per kill
Psychic Leeching = 60% toughness per 8 kills on average (if running 12.5% chance)

and i'm doing an assail build, where the overwhelming majority of my kills are warp kills

[noble trellis]

I've really liked combustion too, just that extra bit of aoe for crowd clearing

[spice veldt]

and killing entire packs of elites

easily one of the best nodes

god bless fatshark for putting it right next to Soulstealer

[acoustic spade]

Where is Psychic leeching in the tree

[spice veldt]

directly below Empowered Psionics

[acoustic spade]

oh its an Empowered thing

Yeah I run 6x Warp Stacks

didnt even think of looking at the empowered part of the tree

[noble trellis]

I stopped using leeching on my EP assail build, just didn't feel that useful

[viscid matrix]

its so good for smite and assail builds

[fallow falcon]

I want to melee psyker, what's a good weapon for going all in on melee?

[viscid matrix]

got a few choices

[acoustic spade]

Perilous Combustion + Wildfire + Creeping Flames + Purgatus Staff + Smite

The other 3 people are there for the actual damage, I'm here to roleplay a mad witch

[austere rose]

is psyker a ranged class?

[viscid matrix]

Illisi for cleave force sword
Deimos for single target force sword
Maccabian or Catachan dagger for single target and mobility non force sword

[spice veldt]

ranged focus but there's also some melee stuff

[austere rose]

is it just like pew pew ranged or weird ranged

[spice veldt]

Psyker has low base toughness but 0.5s stamina regen delay and the same dodge stats as zealot

[late yew]

Casual Smite superiority over Assail user

[steep frost]

Anything can be a melee class if you understand how melee works

[spice veldt]

a bit of weird ranged; no gun analogy in our current staffs right now

there's Assail, which is an autoaim weapon

[viscid matrix]

scoreboard is unreliable, its never accurate, and different people will see different numbers on it

[spice veldt]

if you're looking for mechanical engagement with ranged weapons, Psyker is not the class for it

[late yew]

No, it is reliable

[acoustic spade]

Voidstrike closest to gun

[viscid matrix]

we can just use a gun, Gunker is still good

[late yew]

you jkust have to not be an idiot

and realise that it only counts stats after joining

[spice veldt]

yeah, I just mean that there's no fast firing hitscan force staff

[autumn smelt]

Psyker is mechanically the furthest removed from all classes in regards to melee or ranged

[late yew]

i.e. if you disconnect and then reconnect, all stats will start counting as if 0

[autumn smelt]

They're just too different to be put into on or the other

[noble trellis]

crafted this staff today
not the best, but high burn/radius was too appealing to pass up
I'll probably roll off the infested for flak or unyielding

[late yew]

i would say psyker is ranged

just not guns

[steep frost]

it's a mage

[late yew]

after they beefed up enemies, melee is kinda hard

[spice veldt]

only funny thing is that guns will be our best source of boss DPS currently

[late yew]

Enemies don't die from 1-2 hits anymore

[late yew]

BB still exists

[late yew]

herecy

[bold patrol]

Nah it can be what ever you make your build around

[late yew]

all gun psykers should be banned from this channel

[bold patrol]

yes

[late yew]

You can't really build him around melee

[bold patrol]

I don't personally

[viscid matrix]

Gunker is fun as hell to play when you want to play somthig different but dont want to actualy play veteran or zealot

[spice veldt]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1x29RbMRM8ctmA/d1337gjXGWrK?invite=cr-MSw5TDIsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[acoustic spade]

I wish I could directly upgrade my current blessing on my Voidstrike staff

[late yew]

This is absolutely unrealistic headshot rate of someone who played way too much KF 2

[viscid matrix]

is that the columnus? or accatran?

[spice veldt]

well it's the plague ogryn

[spice veldt]

vraks 3 headhunter with Headhunter + Deadly Accurate

[late yew]

is this scryer?

[viscid matrix]

it has scriers, thats the red skull icon

[spice veldt]

he pops scrier, but the braks 3 doesn't need it

or if you're running True Aim

[acoustic spade]

spamming Voidstrike into a horde at headlevel with this staff looked really funny in my peril gauge

[spice veldt]

fyi, the entire burst of the Vraks will crit

[viscid matrix]

oof my current vrak is garbage 😄

[spice veldt]

and each individual shot from the vraks count as an individual hit for its blessings and True Aim

[viscid matrix]

i really need to get a better one 😄

[spice veldt]

so Vraks 3 will consistently crit

they also buffed Headhunter to be +20% crit chance per stack

[late yew]

fuckn normies, only now discovering glory of void stuff, smh

[austere burrow]

Gun psyker seems funny

[acoustic spade]

Sorry I'm just usually a Purgatus enjoyer, Voidstrike is what I run when I run with randos

[autumn smelt]

Vraks with headhunter and what else?

And true aim

[viscid matrix]

im a Surge enjoyer, but swap to gunker when playing with multiple other psykers

[spice veldt]

Deadly Accurate (+100% critical weakspot damage)

[autumn smelt]

Might need to build that

[noble trellis]

what do you guys think about the early nodes? I've ended up with this on most of my builds
warp expenditure hasn't felt needed with all the other toughness regen available
and battle med just seems mediocre

[viscid matrix]

tier 3 is 90%

[viscid matrix]

i usualy go for all 3 of the middle ones, and only go left if i want fire, and right if i want crit

[spice veldt]

looking good

warp expenditure is pretty meh yeah

I would not take it unless you have spare nodes and are like "whatever idgaf you get a point I guess)

[austere burrow]

I'm guessing for vraks build you go elite damage over crit rate aura?

[mortal marsh]

Playing the game the first time and leveling Psyker atm, currenlty 13. What are some pointers, like solid leveling stuff?

[austere burrow]

Because crit should be high enough already right

[viscid matrix]

crit rate is better

[austere burrow]

Ah okay

[mortal marsh]

Currently using Assail

[austere burrow]

Warp charges for peril resist?

[spice veldt]

the auras are whatever imo

pick whichever aura is convenient for the build path you want

[austere burrow]

Makes sense

[spice veldt]

or unless you're hitting some breakpoints

[plucky flax]

Pick loner aura for free toughness regen.

[viscid matrix]

considering you will yo yo your warp charges every time you use your ability, probably better off going for essence harvest

[austere burrow]

I guess with a gun, maintaining destiny stacks might be less annoying

[ornate hamlet]

I think warp charges is bugged

[viscid matrix]

doesnt seem to me so far, what about it is bugged?

[ornate hamlet]

If I get just 1 warp charge my bubble shield gets an instant cooldown

[austere burrow]

Why would it

It only reduces by 7.5%

[ornate hamlet]

Dunno but it's instantly cooling down my ability instead

[austere burrow]

Oh weird

[ornate hamlet]

I get 1 warp charge, use ability

instantly get it back

[autumn smelt]

Honestly the only aura that's worth it is the ability reduction, especially now that abilities are stronger than ever before

[viscid matrix]

DD has a issue with mark atm, it is never consistant, and will bounce between multiple targets a second sometimes, and tends to pick an enemy ages away

[spice veldt]

i take the crit aura since i want to avoid mind in motion and go for malefic instead

[noble trellis]

it definitely is, psyker as a whole just seems to have a lot of buggy abilities

warp charges giving 1 free cd per charge
psionics giving infinite smite per charge
disrupt destiny not really... doing much?

I'm sure we'll see some bug fixes for the really broken stuff soon

[austere burrow]

The heck is essence harvest then

[mortal marsh]

Quick question, what should I be doing for damage on bosses?

Never sure what I should be using for best output

[rose dagger]

gift from the emperor; worth using?

[noble trellis]

I've been bringing my purga for this, works pretty well

[acoustic spade]

Voidstrike also does decent damage on bosses

[rose dagger]

it stunlocks them

[royal granite]

assail feels like it doesn't do its job as well as voidstrike

[rose dagger]

it doesnt

[spice veldt]

assail's single-target certainly isn't there

[fresh reef]

is it just me or are there way more funny ragdolls than usual?

[autumn smelt]

That's actually really good wth
It's the ultimate boss kiting blade

[royal granite]

what's the point of assail?

[mortal marsh]

Now it's been mentioned, I've been using Voidstrike and should I be full charging as often as possible, sometimes I haven't noticed much difference in damage

[viscid matrix]

kill a lot of enemies really quickly

[ornate hamlet]

Just got this babe from a mission drop

[royal granite]

voidstrike does that better too

[noble trellis]

[austere burrow]

Oh right lol

That's reasonable

[austere rose]

lmao i have a team of only psykers

[autumn smelt]

Voidstrike requires at least a little aim tho
Assail is looking in their general direction

[ornate hamlet]

Voidstrike - Line obliteration
Assail - Spread enemies obliteration

[foggy sigil]

can someone dm me a starter build please before i figure my own stuff out?

my dm's should be open

[fallow falcon]

Does peril resist affect scriers?

[autumn smelt]

Yes

[foggy sigil]

been playing a bit of every class and i dont feel like making up my own build rn

[viscid matrix]

what type of build do you want? damage support ?? what ability and blitz do you want to use

[foggy sigil]

maybe the flying bullet things or brain pop

lightning seems ehh 😄

but anything works for starters

[untold spade]

this any good for a deimos

[viscid matrix]

Smite is a CC skill, its very good when you are playing support and using dome shield

[neat adder]

I love Smite lol, the chain range is nuts

But yea it's main function is CC

[royal granite]

assail seems like it might be better if you're tryna make gunker work

speaking of which, anyone tried gunker with the talent system?

[autumn smelt]

Assail is best for any build that doesn't excel at group clear/control

[rose dagger]

voidstrike feels like the best staff rn and assail is a lil redundant with that

[royal granite]

yeah

[rose dagger]

still good tho

[royal granite]

that's how i feel

[long wharf]

Assail doesn't make Void redundant

[viscid matrix]

gunker is great, when DD gets its mark system fixed so it doesnt bounce the mark around the room, it may end up being amazing, right now its okay, but you will want the 30s duration instead of 30 stacks because of this

[long wharf]

nor vice versa

[spice veldt]

assail is nice for clearing things that are spread about perpendicularly

wave your mouse and you'll lock onto them

[long wharf]

Assail doesn't kill hardened targets

[neat adder]

I still run lightning staff to double up on the shock theme lol

[long wharf]

Void does

[royal granite]

i really like assail visually though

[long wharf]

Assail is good fun

and highly effective

[neat adder]

Until you fight armor enemies

Lol

[long wharf]

then you bring out your Void staff and kill them

swap back, ezpz

[viscid matrix]

Assails job is not to kill armoured enemies, that is what void staff si for

[neat adder]

Yup

[viscid matrix]

Assail is the mob killing tool

[bold flint]

shit is literally missing

[long wharf]

Assail is the "kill everything that isn't hardened armor"

[autumn smelt]

I run bb with it for the nodes underneath, and to gib dogs and trappers running at a weird angle or around a corner, cuz any situation you'd be using assail, voidstrike and bb does better

[neat adder]

That's the point

[long wharf]

you just can't duck into cover while using Assail

which is what bubble shield is for

[spice veldt]

or empathic evasion + true aim

[wooden tulip]

What stats should I focus on with the Void strike staff? It's cool, but I feel like I'm doing barely any damage compared to anyone else in the groups with it.

[long wharf]

nah, warp siphon + true aim

you get better consistent damage with warp siphon / warp charges

as well as less peril gained

[spice veldt]

empathic evasion is ranged dodge on crit

[foggy sigil]

i guess ill go brainpop and try figure something out 😄

[long wharf]

oh that, yeah you want that

[autumn smelt]

Dump stat is warp resist
You want as much crit as possible, so blessings are nexus so you can use surge for constant double shots

[viscid matrix]

damage, charge rate primarily

warp resistance and quell speed are up to preference which you want higher

[long wharf]

don't focus on blast radius

the range is, to put it nicely, smol

[viscid matrix]

hmm, i think maybe you are right

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[viscid matrix]

the diference of 9% is almost nothing

[long wharf]

yep

[bold flint]

i run peril refund on weakspot and chained charges are faster blessings, your quell speed can be your dump stat sort of, and then you just charge every shot

[wooden tulip]

Cool, I've been swapping between head pops and Assail, but Assail seems to be much better generally, and the BB damage isn't very great even on bosses, unless I'm dumb.

[royal granite]

voidstrike being this effective against carapace feels like a bug

[still hearth]

Voidstrike does the same damage to everything

[royal granite]

it's crazy

[still hearth]

[viscid matrix]

its overtuned, it ignores armour

[still hearth]

Yeah its silly

[long wharf]

it's probably a bug with void shots ignoring armor

we'll see

[autumn smelt]

It's not a bug

[spice veldt]

they gave it single-target damaeg and this is what happens

[bold flint]

voidstrike is just vermintide fireballs

[still hearth]

It's literally in the damage chart though

[autumn smelt]

It ignores all armor types

[spice veldt]

vstrike had the same armour damage modifiers against carapace pre-patch

[neat adder]

Damn

[spice veldt]

just that they buffed the base damage

[viscid matrix]

it ignores armour

[autumn smelt]

Just like the plasma gun

[spice veldt]

and weakspot multipliers

[long wharf]

we're sure?

[spice veldt]

yes

[neat adder]

Did it do that last patch?

[still hearth]

I think they literally just overtuned it

[long wharf]

it's not a code bug?

[still hearth]

Without adjusting it

[royal granite]

it didn't obliterate carapace like this last time i played

[bold flint]

its always done respectable damage to carapace

[spice veldt]

it would be unusual for it to be a bug

[fresh reef]

should have its cleave limit reinstated if the damage is this nutty

[neat adder]

Hmm

[spice veldt]

just a balance issue

[autumn smelt]

Voidstrike can now do what the plasmagun does and damage bulwarks through their shield due to both ignoring armor types

[long wharf]

you say "unusual", but I think on the Fatshark code I've seen before

[autumn smelt]

It was in the patch notes

[long wharf]

exactly - I don't think Void should be ignoring bulwark shields

the damage increase was in the patch notes

[foggy sigil]

anyone got brain burst build they could shrae real quick with screenshot?

[viscid matrix]

it ignores all armour, and phases thru it all

[long wharf]

going through bulwark shields was not

[spice veldt]

oh you're talking about hitzones

not armour damage modifiers

[long wharf]

just like how shotgun shots would go through level geometry

Fatshark hasn't magically become competent in the past 6 months

[still hearth]

I mean regardless

[viscid matrix]

Brain Rupture with Purgatus staff and burn build

[still hearth]

If its a bug or just bad design

It's still a mistake

[long wharf]

keep in mind at all times - it's all Lua

[foggy sigil]

tyvm, do you use force swrod with this?

[viscid matrix]

i actually dont play this one very often, but its using Deimos for single target damage against carapace enemies

[foggy sigil]

fair enough

i suppose using force sword wouldnt be horrible?

i enjoy being able to quell while being ready to block

[mental depot]

so jw, is anyone else experiencing issues with the deflector perc and talent? recently some ranged attacks are completely ignoring it

[worldly chasm]

Surge build, focusing on surging everything and assailing hordes, I'm loving this build right now

[viscid matrix]

Sniper is not a projectile, so it cant be blocked by deflector

[mental depot]

huh, was blocking it before patch just fine.... was that a bug?

[spice veldt]

snipers were always unblockables

[viscid matrix]

ive never had it block sniper fire, its always gone thru

[foggy sigil]

how do u see stats like that?

[mental rock]

mod

[worldly chasm]

Scoreboard mod

[foggy sigil]

oh okay, gotta look into those

[viscid matrix]

some of the mods are broken right now because of update

https://discord.gg/rKYWtaDx4D
the modding discord will announce when mods are fixed

[autumn smelt]

Staves do quell faster innately though

[foggy sigil]

true i forgot

[spice veldt]

i'd set up some better weapon swap keybinds if you haven't to make it easier

[autumn smelt]

I always swap to my sraff to quell more than 10% peril

[viscid matrix]

tbh if you are quelling down past 75% you are doing it wrong

[acoustic spade]

Ok, 3x Psykers and an Ogryn. One BB Psyker 2x Smite Psykers

Nothing can go wrong, right

[acoustic spade]

not enough talent points for that :<

[autumn smelt]

Micromanaging that is a pain, especially since you're back to high peril seconds into a fight anyway

[viscid matrix]

if you are going thru Seers or Kinetic aura, grabbing it is worth it

even sacrificing some damage or defence is worth it

[neat adder]

Oh this is cool, didn't know mod support existed

[viscid matrix]

its just a single tap of quell, then cast again, as long as you are not at 100% when you start a blitz cast, or at 100% when you activate staff secondary, you wont go boom

[steel flame]

It's less mod support, more like mod toleration

[autumn smelt]

Most mods are just ui changes though

The few that aren't are stuff like enemy spawners for testing and stuff in the shooting range

[fluid knot]

They're getting adjusted down the line so i hear, but mate they're so solid 😄

[steel flame]

They tolerate mods up to a point

Which is good enough

Rn

[teal needle]

Lol played an a5 with that comp on the brink of wiping the whole time because they other psykers got hit by every single dog/net/mutie that spawned. Eventually the other psykers left and we get a new vet and psyker who could actually cover lanes and got through

[royal granite]

i'm amazed the revolver is still so mid

[noble trellis]

[neat adder]

That's good to know, I just assumed this game wasn't mod friendly since it's online lol

[neat adder]

[teal needle]

I've been in a ton of all psyker groups of wildly being quality lately so we're definitely flavor of the month. Before long we'll be the new veterans

[bold flint]

peril of the month

constantly horizontal

[teal needle]

If the class stays too good for too long psykers may become as unsufferable as vets though. They need to nerf us soon to keep this chat from turning into vet or general chat

[neat adder]

Smite nerf coming I already accepted that

[autumn smelt]

I think the regular psykers bring too much psyker energy to the chat for that to happen

They can't turn this channel into a misc channel cuz we're too busy talking about the most minute of breakpoints

[teal needle]

Speaking of, how many breakpoints am i gonna miss out on going from 80% to 76% on voidstrike

[autumn smelt]

Idfk

[teal needle]

Also why does charge speed do so dammed little on that stick

[autumn smelt]

Lmao

[tall mango]

worth upgrading?

[wooden tulip]

I have a question, Psykinetic Wrath is supposed to Quell 50% right? Because right now all it does is very slightly push/stagger people, as long as they lack armor.

[teal needle]

Yes

[frank lintel]

Yes

[still hearth]

It does if you have the upgraded version.

[wooden tulip]

Ah, I see, so by default it just...pushes people a little?

[autumn smelt]

You have the default ability at the moment which is a much weaker versiob

[tall mango]

got absolutely shit on by the blessings

[autumn smelt]

It will change if you select the actual one, or be replaced if you choose the shield or scriers gaze

[still hearth]

Oh no.

So sad.

[teal needle]

Ouch. Pocwalkers sucks but I would still change the blessings and use it

[wooden tulip]

Are those both bad? I thought run n gun was helpful?

[tall mango]

yes it is i have fuck all for blessings

[still hearth]

It isn't.

[wooden tulip]

Man

[still hearth]

It only works on the LMB

[wooden tulip]

Oh, nevermind

[still hearth]

At least unless they changed it I haven't tried

[naive imp]

Working on my assail psyker. How do we proceed down the tree?

[long wharf]

"we"?

you experiment

ffs, the patch is three days old

just play

[still hearth]

Damn

[naive imp]

Savage.

[still hearth]

Imagine gatekeeping people asking for help.

[naive imp]

Welcome to my blocked list

[long wharf]

imagine telling people to think for themselves just a little "gatekeeping"

[still hearth]

Yeah well I thought that I should ask other people what to do so now what

[tall mango]

they’re asking for help sibling, the least you can do is give a little advice

[long wharf]

pick whatever you want

there's almost no wrong choice

[spice veldt]

seems fine

[long wharf]

except for Brain Rupture

[tall mango]

The patch IS new, so people are a little confused on what’s the best option and what not

[still hearth]

People will always wonder what's best.

And either you tell them or just keep it to yourself, man.

[long wharf]

and three days of experimenting isn't enough to suss out definitive "best" yet

[spice veldt]

another alternate path is malefic -> crit -> empathic, but that's more damage and perhaps not really worth it

[sinful olive]

Tried both crit variant and empowered psyonics variant. If you want to just assail as much as possible, empowered psionics and ignore crit stuff for the most part. I run it with a void staff and demos force sword, which helps with beefier elites and bosses. I'm sure a crit assail build with a gun is pretty good too, but I don't gave a well built gun to give it a go with yet.

[acoustic spade]

not talking about One with Warp, talking about Warp Rider

[sinful olive]

Can show my skill tree I've been using later

[viscid matrix]

its shitty tooltip, it increases all damage you deal by 20% while near 100% peril

but its worht the 2 points, cause above it is 10% extra hp

[zinc phoenix]

This is psyker chat, we don’t do that we just rant about unrelated shit

[naive imp]

Yea I’m going empowered as well

Seems gross

[zinc phoenix]

ENFORCERS RAAAAAAAAH

[acoustic spade]

I know what it does, but I'd have to sacrifice keynodes for it

I'd only need one more for it

[zinc phoenix]

Pretty sure you can ditch a couple purp nodes

They’re not gonna have the same impact

[acoustic spade]

6 Warp Charges is like, my main survivability with Venting Shriek

Just knock everyone down every few seconds

[somber junco]

Is there a good resource link that recommends weapons, perks, and blessing for classes? Hate to just ask a bunch of questions on common knowledge.

[viscid matrix]

check the pins

the first one is getting updated

[still hearth]

This is what I've ran with Assail since it works really well with whatever staff you want to bring and you can have 6 warp charges up whenever pretty much.

Empowered is nice but I didn't really feel it was that great outside of clearing easy stuff anyway.

[acoustic spade]

I could sacrifice the Lightning Storm node from Smite for it but that doesnt feel worth it either

[midnight bluff]

peeps like charges more or disrupt destiny more for voidstrike?

[somber junco]

Thanks I'll check it out.

[still hearth]

Disrupt Destiny is trash

[sinful olive]

Very much enjoying charges.

[still hearth]

It doesn't proc often enough and team-mates can take the kills you need

[viscid matrix]

if the marking system wasnt shit, it would be much much better

[gray kelp]

nice rolled rending shockwave t3 on a trauma staff finally

[upper lark]

What’s a good brain burst build

[still hearth]

"If it actually worked it would be better" you got that right sibling

[sinful olive]

The changes to warp charges in general are so insanely nice

[still hearth]

Empowered probably. But Brain Burst isn't that great right now.

You can use it to chain elites but Assail does that better most of the time

And running it with Warp Charges means you'll use up your charges to get the brain burst spam out

It's honestly just too slow to keep up with Assail and Smite lets you just turn the game off

[sinful olive]

Seconded, but I do like chaining brain bursts very quickly on bosses with that one talent after dropping a dome shield. Not great boss dps, but it isn't bad either.

[teal needle]

I kinda wanna do a soul blaze bb vent build for giggles just because i haven't even tried to run any of those this patch

[still hearth]

The sad part is that Assail does this better still

[acoustic spade]

Ok our 3x Psyker+Ogryn run just now was fun

[still hearth]

[teal needle]

I thought purg was meh before and I'm sure it's even more meh now

But gotta give it a shake

[still hearth]

Purg was always strong but its kind of suffering from everything now cleaving

[acoustic spade]

2x Smite, 1x BB, and 2x Purgatus 1x Surge staves

[sinful olive]

Even before the patch this combo felt real good the few times I got to run it

[autumn smelt]

Purg has always been pretty good

[still hearth]

And the other options being silly good

[autumn smelt]

Not top tier, but just
Good

[still hearth]

Purg was best staff before don't @ me

[teal needle]

Purg was always agressively mid tier. Like, better than old void strike, i guess.

[midnight bluff]

ive always liked VS tho

[still hearth]

Even now I feel like a lot of games just die to not having enough horde clear

[acoustic spade]

Did they nerf the Void Strike projectile size? Cause I remember it being an Ogryn sized ball

[still hearth]

You can definitely feel how dumb Assail is

[still hearth]

Yeah

[autumn smelt]

Purg is definitely the best staff for new psykers
Easy to use and get familiar with the psyker kit, both before and after the patch

[still hearth]

It's like half as big or something

[midnight bluff]

that makes a lot of sense actually

[sinful olive]

They did, but the damage increase is idiotic.

[acoustic spade]

Ok, that helps with the Headshot hitting

[teal needle]

Yes, 0% charge fireball does less damage too

[acoustic spade]

no need to aim 2m up in the air

[midnight bluff]

VS lmb feels worthles tbh

[still hearth]

The game is kind of horrible rn actually

At Auric level if you don't cover all bases

Games become a massive slog

Can't kill crushers? RIP.

[teal needle]

So if you're a psyko like me used to old void strike cuz you actually used it that's new stuff to be aware of

[still hearth]

Can't kill 10 maulers in 10s? RIP

Can't kill 500 horde monsters in 10s? RIP.

[acoustic spade]

I used all three Staves before the update

[still hearth]

But its fun af

[acoustic spade]

Surge, Purgatus, Void Strike

[still hearth]

So its fine

[fresh reef]

found a neat interaction with empowered psionics

[still hearth]

Is it smite

[acoustic spade]

Trauma wasnt a staff back then

[teal needle]

You literally left out the best staff

[fresh reef]

if you proc the auto-brainburst talent while having a charge, it'll apply the buffed damage without consuming the charge

[austere burrow]

Trauma feels so good now

[mortal marsh]

Any recommendation on an ability to stick with through leveling?

Can't decide

[crimson shell]

Did it get a buff!?

[still hearth]

Assail is the strongest rn

[acoustic spade]

Before the update it wasnt really a great option IMO

[austere burrow]

They basically doubled the damage or something

[spice veldt]

before this update? yes it was

[austere burrow]

From launch

[sinful olive]

Trauma felt good before the patch, was super underappreciated honestly

[mortal marsh]

That's Blitz

[crimson shell]

LEZZ GOO THAT SWEET

[sinful olive]

They buffed it some months ago

[still hearth]

Yeah that's all you need.

[austere burrow]

Ya it's been a while

[teal needle]

Like 3 or so months after launch they halved the peril cost and made charging better. It's been the best staff since then

[acoustic spade]

TBH my only experience with Trauma Staff was from Beta/Release ":D"

[austere burrow]

I stopped playing before it got buffed

[still hearth]

Shriek is a safe choice.

[crimson shell]

Oh I thought u meant

[spice veldt]

makes sense

[still hearth]

Shield is shield

[crimson shell]

This update

[austere burrow]

No lol

It's in a good spot already, didn't need changes

[still hearth]

Uh

Which staff

Are you talking about now

[crimson shell]

Trauma

[austere burrow]

Trauma

[mortal marsh]

Tempted to go Scriers for more deeps but feel like it'll prob get me killed with the peril increase

[crimson shell]

And yea I get that

[still hearth]

Ah yeah

[autumn smelt]

Scriers just isn't really worth it atm

[crimson shell]

Scrier is weird

[autumn smelt]

Even if you're good with peril

[still hearth]

This.

Its way too much effort

For way too little gain

[mortal marsh]

Ah ok, will steer clear for the moment

[still hearth]

The fact that it doesn't go on cooldown until its over is

Really stupid

[austere burrow]

Scrier feels like it's aimed at melee/gun psyker

[still hearth]

So you don't even get rewarded for having it up

[elder rain]

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[austere burrow]

It's way too annoying to use when you use peril for damage

[still hearth]

Void is definitely the strongest

Surge is good

Trauma is okay

Purg is purg

[crimson shell]

We don't talk about the other one

[still hearth]

The issue with Purgatus

Is that people just

Don't understand

[autumn smelt]

Those are just the ones that changed the most

[still hearth]

That when you're flaming a hallway

They don't also have to be in there trying to kill things

[elder rain]

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[ornate hamlet]

Lord Emperor, I gather you here on this holy day.. To please give me a voidstrike staff with stats 370+
Amen

[still hearth]

A gray one is better than the other staves rn.
But Surge + Warp Nexus is probably the strongest option.

Since you can get confirmed criticals from your talents

[elder rain]

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[austere burrow]

What about that staff

[still hearth]

No I meant the Surge blessing on Voidstrike.

Not to be confused with the Surge Staff

Thanks Fatshark

[elder rain]

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[austere burrow]

Oh right lol

[midnight bluff]

not transfer peril?

[still hearth]

You really don't need it anymore

[fresh reef]

comedy

[gusty furnace]

Everybody like "Voidstrike this, voidstrike that"

I'm just vibin with pre-patch psyker

with this thing

[still hearth]

My condolences.

[gusty furnace]

You really can't snub your nose at down and dirty reliable

It does everything psyker wants

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[still hearth]

I can when Assail is just more dirty reliable

[gusty furnace]

I think my favorite is when assail psykers get absolutely dumpstered by snipers

[sinful olive]

God rolled

[gusty furnace]

Comeuppance, finally

[teal needle]

You don't gotta shit on the old stuff that's still good just because there's a goofy new crutch

[left mirage]

just gotta remember to ADS and chuck your rock harder

[still hearth]

It's not good though

[gusty furnace]

Wat

[still hearth]

BB is so bad right now

[teal needle]

Plebian take

[gusty furnace]

Naw, BB is fine

[left mirage]

BB is ok

it just feels slow because well, assail

[elder rain]

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[sinful olive]

Idk man the few times I had snipers aim at me with the assail build I just marked them and used assail right click then jumped behind cover.

[gusty furnace]

Like, the problem is that the new stuff is just hilariously overtuned

[gusty furnace]

You are a rare breed

as are most players in this discord

[acoustic spade]

I was never big on using BB anyways, so Smite actually gives me an ability to use at times that doesnt feel like it leaves me defenseless

[still hearth]

The enemies are also overtuned so undertuned stuff is pretty horrible.

[gusty furnace]

but the majority of public players are fucking terrible

[grizzled whale]

I saw an interesting comment yesterday saying a nice tweak to BB would be to make its charge speed scale with the target's remaining health

[keen sigil]

assail is overtuned both with the crit stuff and the psyonics

[uncut hamlet]

yea assail is way overtuned

im enjoying the new trauma a lot

[still hearth]

Isn't trauma the same?

[gusty furnace]

It got a damage buff

[still hearth]

Huh

[gusty furnace]

Not a huge one

[still hearth]

How does it compare to Void now

[gusty furnace]

But it got one

[still hearth]

Ah damn

[uncut hamlet]

yea it does a lot more at epicentre now

[keen sigil]

and palapine ability is a bit undertuned

[still hearth]

Voidstrike still silly

[sinful olive]

Oh I misread, I thought you were saying assail builds in general got dumpstered by snipers, carry on

[gusty furnace]

Voidstrike is blatantly overpowered

[teal needle]

All warp stuff got a big buff just from all the ways you can stack damage. So yeah trauma is a bit upgraded from before

[still hearth]

Yeah Voidstrike is actually overpowered

[gusty furnace]

Assail is definitely overtuned

[fluid knot]

That is straight up not true at all, Auric Maelstrom is properly hard for the first time since its release

[still hearth]

Assail could be reasoned with but Voidstrike is just horrible.

[gusty furnace]

Really, it just needs the cooldown on ammo gain extended

to like

I dunno, 10-30 seconds?

Somewhere in that bracket

[uncut hamlet]

psyker went from strongest in beta to weakest at launch back to probably the strongest again lmao

[fluid knot]

Ofc some stuff in undertuned, but the enemies are in a reallllly good place atm

[still hearth]

Yeah if you run the proper builds sure

[gusty furnace]

For being a G ability, it being infinite is monkawhat

[uncut hamlet]

30 seconds total you mean?

[fluid knot]

Ive been playing Combat Knife an Throwing Knives all day, hardly a meta-shaking build

[teal needle]

30 seconds is nuts. Touch up empower so it's not usually just free to cast

[still hearth]

I mean all of the psyker abilities are infinite.

[gusty furnace]

Yeah

[uncut hamlet]

30 + whatever it is now yea

[still hearth]

So you're being carried

[bronze sierra]

fellas

[uncut hamlet]

if they slowed down ammo count i agree itd be a lot more balanced

[acoustic spade]

Assail isnt :X

[gusty furnace]

Its like what, 8 ammo right now?

[uncut hamlet]

it is, it recharges

[gusty furnace]

And you basically get one back every few seconds?

[bronze sierra]

i may or may not been on crit perils for liek 10 minutes last run

[still hearth]

Yeah that 3s per charge is crazy

[spice veldt]

3 seconds be default i think

[uncut hamlet]

every like 3 or 4 seconds, 10 max ammo count

[fluid knot]

Lol, no, i been playing these missions for long now, i just know how to use the loadout I was actually carrying a mate who hasnt played in 6 months

Besides, combat knife is actually good in this patch

[gusty furnace]

Yeah, bump the ammo regen time to 5 seconds per

[uncut hamlet]

im pretty sure with the perk its 3? i could be wrong i havent been paying too much attentioon to it

[still hearth]

Listen its okay to be carried. I get carried on my stupid builds too.

[naive imp]

Going through missions pure ability is pretty sweet

[gusty furnace]

and see how it feels from there

[bronze sierra]

like did they increase whats needed to overload?

[teal needle]

Don't worry you don't gotta take their opinions seriously lol

[gusty furnace]

and just keep working up from there

[uncut hamlet]

5 per sounds good, maybe lower the ammo count by 2 as well

[fluid knot]

Im sure you do

[uncut hamlet]

so 8 max with 5 per

[elder rain]

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[still hearth]

Tbh I feel like I carry with the dumb invis Helbore build because I save us from wipes

[acoustic spade]

still that "downtime" makes it feel bad to me

[uncut hamlet]

rightmost

[still hearth]

Bottom right

[long wharf]

it's okay to be carried ... as long as your team is okay with carrying you

[bronze sierra]

^

and you try to contribute

[gusty furnace]

No, this is godrolled

[uncut hamlet]

DAMN

[left mirage]

mm

[gusty furnace]

weakspot damage though

[left mirage]

monstrous specialists is fucked

[fresh reef]

smite who?

[fluid knot]

Im not taking anything seriously DW, im not one of those people that gets bent out of shape over that shit, but i am gonna laugh at it

[left mirage]

i just had a chaos spawn and plague ogryn one after the other in a cramped ass room

[uncut hamlet]

id swap our transfer peril to rending or nexus personally, quell speed is rly fast already

[fluid knot]

So fun though, its just one of the hardest modifers

Love me some monsters

[bronze sierra]

fun fact fellas

[gusty furnace]

Uh

[bronze sierra]

you can smite stun a muty

[gusty furnace]

transfer peril means you literally don't gain peril

let alone quell speed

You just fuckin spam bolts out

Its really funny

[teal needle]

Lol yeah no worries. Just laughing that their entire mo is rancid take + laughing anime girl emoji

[uncut hamlet]

i almost never bolt on trauma tbh

[fluid knot]

Yeah, it takes a while to build up to the stun though

[abstract kestrel]

digging smite and surge staff

very goofy

[uncut hamlet]

i get more value from alt fire

[gusty furnace]

Oh, I meant on voidstrike

[uncut hamlet]

ohhh

[sinful olive]

If I wasn't lifting I'd bust out the staff collection

[gusty furnace]

Transfer Peril literally doesn't work on trauma

[still hearth]

I mean I got carried by someone using smite because otherwise we would've definitely not been able to survive the end but at the same time if I wasn't running Helbore I feel like we would've probably not been killing things when the other two went down, twice.

[uncut hamlet]

oh mb i saw trauma for some reason

[uncut hamlet]

yea

[bronze sierra]

i use smite and purge

[uncut hamlet]

thats a crazy void staff though

[long wharf]

well, if you're meaningfully contributing, then you aren't being carried

so, good for you

[still hearth]

We carried together

[gusty furnace]

This is the void I usually use though

[fluid knot]

Yeah ik, but people all think they can be dicks on the internet because there aint no recompense for doing so, been like that since the internets inception

[still hearth]

AS lame as it was

[left mirage]

what's the highest boss dps setup

[still hearth]

[uncut hamlet]

yall think purge is still viable? I havent used it since update

[still hearth]

Zealot

[still hearth]

It is but its overshadowed by the buffs to other things.

[left mirage]

ty

gonna go find a zeal guide

[abstract kestrel]

not a pycher that's for sure

[still hearth]

And so many weapons that sucked at hordeclear now does well

Zeaot can 1-shot all bosses rn

So yeah

[left mirage]

ive wiped to double bosses like 7 times the past 2 days

[uncut hamlet]

i havent used void yet but with the carapace change and dmg buff it looks really powerful

[left mirage]

sick of it tbh

[still hearth]

It is. And the talent support is stupid too

[fluid knot]

Yeah this is a good point tbh, you can carry struggling teams through the hardest settings with some builds an you'll still rank lowest in score with some of the new mechanics, Smite in particular

[uncut hamlet]

psyker util and aoe goes crazy though

[still hearth]

That's literally my Helbore invis build tbf

It does mid damage but I focus on killing the things that wipe the party

And the invis lets you ress anywhere

[uncut hamlet]

im really loving the dome shield, doesnt matter if the vet has bad target prio anymore

with warp charges i constantly have shields up

[gusty furnace]

I just focus on killing everything

[fluid knot]

Ive not tried it much yet, but for sure the stealth thing has mad clutch potential

[abstract kestrel]

flames don't hurt you in stealth

[gusty furnace]

Team can't get hurt if nothing is alive

[abstract kestrel]

it's pretty funny

[gusty furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-point-finger-at-forehead-forehead-tap-head-tap-tap-forehead-gif-18599618

[naive imp]

What build?

[gusty furnace]

ignore the 13 deaths

[uncut hamlet]

they dont? thats kinda dumb

[abstract kestrel]

hush

invisiblity

[bronze sierra]

I usually run this purge staff

[long wharf]

what's the new max health % on a curio "blessing"?

[gusty furnace]

and then BB Mk3 and Ripper Mk6

[gusty furnace]

21%

[gusty furnace]

same as always

[fluid knot]

I mean yes, but also no, because if everyone dies an you're alone your odds of clutching go down a lot, not always too much to save depending on the situation, but a lot nonetheless

[long wharf]

so it wasn't raised? okay, thanks

[gaunt stone]

what is the highest toughness on a curio

[gusty furnace]

Ogryn be like

[bronze sierra]

i Love me my flamethrower

[gaunt stone]

is it 16?

[gusty furnace]

17% toughness

[fluid knot]

I almost solo clutched the end event on Consignment yard earlier with me combat knife, solo killed a spawn during it, but eventually the shooter walls just got too much an i did a die

[teal needle]

Clutching and carrying certainly got harder this patch

[fluid knot]

Was a good attempt tho if imight says o

[past jetty]

Are the developers aware of the psyker infinite ability bug?

[gusty furnace]

Oh

[teal needle]

Game's easier with a decent team though

[gusty furnace]

I meant that as in a

[fluid knot]

Yeah they are

[gusty furnace]

"The team can't get hurt if no enemies are alive"

IE: Just outdamage the enemies

and remove them from the screen before they can hurt lil uns

[past jetty]

I hope it gets fixed soon

[bronze sierra]

oh so it wasnt just me then

[whole wharf]

wtf did they do to this mask bro

[fluid knot]

Yeah, but Puri, its like 10% of occasions where thats viable consistently, particularly in new Maelstrom because the director can go absolutely awol

[gaunt stone]

I am assuming games latern is not accurate it says 20%

[gusty furnace]

0-80%

80% of 20 is 17

[uncut hamlet]

game is way easier with a good team. even auric maelstrom aint all that bad if everyone knows what theyre doing

[gusty furnace]

Games Lantern is just dumb

and doesn't account for the fact that 80% is the max roll on items

[gaunt stone]

Ur a genius

[fluid knot]

Here, have 15 gunners, 6 trappers, a mutant squad, a BoN and a Spawn all in one room, an you kill some, it just spawns more

[long wharf]

I don't think the curio blessings count as "max of 80%"

[fluid knot]

Its a fuckin good time tho

[long wharf]

because otherwise 21% health doesn't line up

[gusty furnace]

They actually do though

its uh

[long wharf]

but then, neither does the item score for curio health

[gusty furnace]

26%? HP for that curio

something like that

but we can't get the last 20%

[gaunt stone]

Now that it is a different time of day gamers. I will ask again health curios or toughness.

[uncut hamlet]

in some ways? stealth lets you clutch, vets commanding shout can pick, zealot turn undead thing is great for sticky situations, and dome shield is huge when you cant pick cuz of ranged fire

[still hearth]

Wounds

[gusty furnace]

I run on all HP on psyker

3x 20/21%

[uncut hamlet]

every class has better options for clutches

[uncut hamlet]

i go all 3 personally

[lament sparrow]

i have a problem. smite is awesome, it looks super cool, makes me feel epic and looks amazing. but it's not particularly fun...

[rose dagger]

i go toughness

[lament sparrow]

gameplay is soo simple

[uncut hamlet]

mix it up with your staff

stun into whack

[rose dagger]

assail isnt exactly complex either

[uncut hamlet]

or gun if youre a psychopath

[long wharf]

Smite needs to do more damage when you charge it up

[uncut hamlet]

its fun though

[lament sparrow]

it just feels like there's no point in using staff when i have smite lol

[uncut hamlet]

pew pew pew

[long wharf]

and it's really not a good idea to have both Smite and Surge staff

[rose dagger]

smite would be extremely broken if it did good dmg

[still hearth]

Smite is supposed to be kept in the backpocket until you have to use it

[uncut hamlet]

staff is for dmg, smite ishella low dmg

[still hearth]

You shouldn't be using it most of the time

Kill things

[uncut hamlet]

smite into a trauma or void charge

[keen harbor]

I feel like smite + purgator or BB+purgator is a good balance

[tall mango]

I use smite when there’s just too much for us to kill immediately and we don’t have an ogryn nade

[uncut hamlet]

i wouldnt take smite with purge personally, purge lacks the specialist cc but its already really good horde cc. overlaps with smite too much

[tall mango]

like with the hunting grounds or mutant rush, very helpful

[uncut hamlet]

smth that can deal heavy damage to single targets too would be ideal i think

[rose dagger]

assail spam actually super good for hunting grounds

[uncut hamlet]

new ogryn nade is hella clutch

[rose dagger]

or maybe it only seemed that way cause we had 2 assail psyksers

[keen harbor]

oh, I use smite to cc elites, I don't use it on hordes

[uncut hamlet]

purge takes a long time to deal with elites though, might as well take void or trauma and take them out way faster after the cc

[rose dagger]

psyker has powerful melee for elites too

so you can mix and match

[spice veldt]

the aim assist countering dog's speed and being one-shottable by assail headshots/weakspots makes assail quite good

[uncut hamlet]

it does yea, deimos is a lil dangerous though

is there any reason to use obscurus at this point? deimos is better singl target and illos is better aoe

[spice veldt]

can solo a hound wave easily if they're coming from a particular direction

[keen harbor]

currently, I have settled on the classic purge + BB max soul flame build

[spice veldt]

has a better weapon model

[uncut hamlet]

nahh illsi weapon model is cool asf

deimos too

[spice veldt]

i like my simple flat wide blades

[uncut hamlet]

i like both of them more

[spice veldt]

illisi's blade is too spindly

[teal needle]

There never was

[spice veldt]

deimos is whatever

[rose dagger]

been rocking duelling sword/voidstrike mostly today; go back n forth between my smite and assail builds

had enough of brain burst for a long while

[sinful olive]

It isn't bad but I haven't found a reason to run it honestly. Usually I slot deimos or illsi to cover ST or horde clear in my kit.

[teal needle]

Deimos fish hook tip looks goofy ngl

[rose dagger]

usually with bubble shield

[uncut hamlet]

bubble is great

[keen harbor]

assail feels so braindead. you just shoot them into the air, and they auto kill things for you

[uncut hamlet]

has anyone tried the 2x flat shields

hows it compare to dome

[keen harbor]

yes, the flat shields are great

dome is generally better

[teal needle]

Yes they're awesome. Braindead hard counter to muties and dogs

[keen harbor]

flat shield is for memes

[uncut hamlet]

its faster than bb at killing elites, and the tree has the movespeed quell thing which is good for keeping up with quick teams

by faster i mean

you dont have to sit in an animation for 2 hours

[subtle flame]

am i missing something with smite?

[teal needle]

Its also not flat, it's fairly curved

[gray kelp]

I just ran dome shield in damnation and couldnt convince the psyker in there why dome is nicer than flat for certain situations

sadge

[uncut hamlet]

bb is faster at the actual killing

[subtle flame]

it doesnt...do much

[viscid matrix]

it needs the hook to hold into enemies while you channel your power into the blade to 1tap enemies with the special

[uncut hamlet]

i think dome is better than flat generally no?

[gaunt stone]

with how easily we regen toughness from abilities should we skip out on toughness regeneration speed?

[gray kelp]

i agree

[spice veldt]

main advantage of dome I see is for bonbons and the toughness regen

[uncut hamlet]

ahh the slow right

[urban crystal]

smite locks down and buys space, not really much of a killer

[teal needle]

Dome is nicer in certain situations yeah. Flat shield better for others

[subtle flame]

ah okay thanks

[teal needle]

Not slow. Stop.

[uncut hamlet]

toughness regen and really wide protection coverage

[subtle flame]

i dont get the right click ability tho

[uncut hamlet]

Oh it stuns damn

[uncut hamlet]

i thought it was a slow i read it wrong

[keen harbor]

plomp down a flat shield in front of a dog or mutant, never gets old

[uncut hamlet]

thats pretty good

i still like dome's aethestic more though

[teal needle]

Yeah muties just bounce off the thing

[uncut hamlet]

they did really well with the sound effects again, shots hitting the shield sound so good

[keen harbor]

dome has toughness regen, which is amazing. That and it's broken with warp empyrean thing

[uncut hamlet]

yea i almost never have dome on cd

[viscid matrix]

Dome is the safer option, flat is really good at covering just you while you take out snipers and muties

[keen harbor]

The unfortunate part with dome spam... it blocks vision as much as smoke when you spam it

[teal needle]

Dome usually runs out of duration before it runs out of health

[urban crystal]

tbh I don't either lmao

[uncut hamlet]

just put it down when the other expires

[ornate hamlet]

My dome has not once lasted it's duration

[uncut hamlet]

i honestly didnt know it had hp, i've had multiple gunners pumping into it before

oh actually maybe a couple times

[teal needle]

The duality of man

[ornate hamlet]

The amount of times my dome has given up at JUST the right time for a sniper to shoot someone is uncanny

[rose dagger]

doesnt block sniper anyway

[uncut hamlet]

oh does it not

[keen harbor]

I thought it did, but reduced?

[rose dagger]

thought it didnt

[keen harbor]

the flat one does it for sure

[teal needle]

Wall blocks sniper I'm pretty sure doesn't it

[ornate hamlet]

It.. I've never had a sniper shoot someone through my bubble

[uncut hamlet]

ive used it against snipers before i thought

could be wrong

snipers usually die pretty fast

[ornate hamlet]

I use it all the time against snipers

Especially when 6 spawn at once

[uncut hamlet]

6 is crazy

[ornate hamlet]

That's auric maelstrom for you bby

[teal needle]

We've been misinformationed

[uncut hamlet]

i just really love the shield ability in general

[rose dagger]

[uncut hamlet]

brings so much utility

[rose dagger]

much more impactful than the original ult thats for certain

[keen harbor]

yeah, before it was get surrounded by gunners = take a long time to clear the room, or die
now: pop a shield

[uncut hamlet]

original ult's upgrade makes it a lot better offensively though

[teal needle]

I'm already completely crutched on shield

[ornate hamlet]

My shield tends to only last about 9 seconds so warp build is sooooooo nice

[rose dagger]

the fast brain bursts were nice

[uncut hamlet]

fr

[left mirage]

damn i just got quickscoped

by a sniper

he went round a corner and instadowned me

[teal needle]

360 noscope blaze it

[uncut hamlet]

you got clipped lmao

thats going on yt

[keen harbor]

sniper revive camped me. get revived around the corner, get insta-downed

[teal needle]

Sniper warmed up on CoD

[ornate hamlet]

My favorite is when you get a bugged sniper that can shoot through floors or ceilings

[rose dagger]

so many zealots runnin loner...

[keen harbor]

no time to react, because it shoots you in 10ms

[teal needle]

Or a trapper

[ornate hamlet]

We were in a big open field taking on a bunch of specials while a sniper spawned underneath the ground and started going ham

[teal needle]

They gave zealots so many incentives to play like idiots lol

Stack wounds run off on your own for max buffs

[left mirage]

these guys hit harder than pd2

but almost the exact same aimbot and timings

kinda wild

[ornate hamlet]

Zealot just does things for people. I have to sit back in my chair whenever I two shot a boss in Auric damnation

[left mirage]

o, been meaning to ask, wtf is auric difficulty

[keen harbor]

At least you didn't have a knife vet running off on his own and charging into elite patrols

[uncut hamlet]

fr get coherency even when alone

[proven cairn]

Found a way to infinitely cast Smite.

[left mirage]

is it like warframe's steel path

[ornate hamlet]

Regular difficulty with modifiers

[left mirage]

ah

[spice veldt]

just a mission board where every mission is guaranteed to be hi-intensity

[austere burrow]

Zealot kinda wants to run off on his own though

[ornate hamlet]

Do you like never getting ammo? Come on down to Auric!

[austere burrow]

You just have to let them do their thing lol

[viscid matrix]

yeh empower reduces cost by 100% even tho it doesnt say it on the tooltip

[teal needle]

On the map selection screen, there's a little box on the bottom left with arrow in it. Click the right arrow

[rose dagger]

often doesnt work out on auric

[ornate hamlet]

If they bring flamer back to it's former glory on zealot I'll go back to maining him. For now it's just a vibe.

[proven cairn]

Yeah, all you need is the one charge. And to make sure you can replace the charge if you take health damage or trop the charge ability.

We just memed all over an Auric 5 shock troop gauntlet

nothing could move

[uncut hamlet]

good thing we're a bunch of psykers. ammo is for nerds without mind powers

[proven cairn]

I cha-cha slid left and right and never dropped the charge, only to cast a shield

[viscid matrix]

Gunker disagrees with you

[rose dagger]

zealot went from my favorite to 3rd fav with this update

[uncut hamlet]

gunker isnt real i refuse its existence

[ornate hamlet]

Psyker 1st Zealot 2nd
Haven't really felt like playing the other 2

[viscid matrix]

just cause you refuse it exists doesnt stop it from existing

[keen harbor]

middle tree zealot is kinda fun, but I don't have a bleed knife for the right tree

[uncut hamlet]

if i dont acknowledge it it wont happen

[rose dagger]

ogryn my 2nd fav now

[viscid matrix]

Ogryns are top tier right now

[ornate hamlet]

I don't like a single one of ogyrns weapons

[uncut hamlet]

Good for them honestly they got the short end of the stick for so long

[teal needle]

Gunker was among the best builds pre patch. It's better now but everything else is so cracked it doesn't compete as well lol

[uncut hamlet]

i played with an ogryn with taunt a bit ago

ranged would cry against shield and melees just wailed on the brick wall thats an ogryn

easiest game ive had in a long time

[keen harbor]

shield was one of the weaker weapons, so it's good that it finally has a use

[uncut hamlet]

any time things got a dicey he just threw a nuke

yea it definitely was, but idt it was quite as bad as ppl made it out to be

less dps for sure but i used shieldgryns as portable cover basically

[keen harbor]

I liked the stagger on heavy attacks

[ornate hamlet]

People hated on a bunch of stuff pre-patch but it didn't stop me from using them and succeeding.

[teal needle]

Nuke grenade is like in those old side scrolling games where you press space bar and everything on screen dies

[keen harbor]

although the melee used to just slosh around a lot, and make killing hoards take more time

[uncut hamlet]

i genuinely think everything was and still is viable

[long wharf]

was? no.

is? nearly.

[uncut hamlet]

hordes are usually dealt with by psyker zealot though

[ornate hamlet]

Everyone hated eviscerator but still used it

wonder how it is this update

[uncut hamlet]

idk i never tried anything that couldnt do damn

[long wharf]

"viable" doesn't mean "you can get through with enough trudging"

[keen harbor]

evi didn't get any changes, I think?

[long wharf]

Evi got good changes

[uncut hamlet]

viable as in you can get through damn without getting carried

[teal needle]

There were incredibly few builds you could run before that you couldn't still carry a team with. Maybe no builds.

[keen harbor]

chain sword is really good now

[autumn smelt]

Eviserator got a glow up wdym

[uncut hamlet]

whatd they change about it

[keen harbor]

I tried evi, and it felt even more jank than it did before

[uncut hamlet]

how are the TH changes btw? I loved using them pre patc even if they werent the best

[keen harbor]

chain sword, rev and light attack will one shot a damnation mutie

[rapid juniper]

What's a good way to play psyker

[keen harbor]

all the psyker branches are good, except the bottom right

[uncut hamlet]

^

[rapid juniper]

Ok

[uncut hamlet]

i havent tried disrupt destiny is it not great?

[ebon smelt]

Fellow warp heads, do you think trying to go for a crit build with this would be worth it?

[keen harbor]

do you like gunning things? assail
do you like CC? middle
do you like DPS? left

[ornate hamlet]

So chain sword will 1 shot a mutie with a revved light attack, what about evi?
What's goin' on with that fella

[uncut hamlet]

they made it so smite does more single target right? probably worth it

[uncut hamlet]

i run assail with dome and trauma

[ebon smelt]

yeah, smite targets way more stuff, but i dont want to throw away my favorite surge

[rapid juniper]

I like cc and dps

[ebon smelt]

So i am thinking if ican make a crit build so surge can be my horde clear

[uncut hamlet]

i meant surge sorry

it targets 2 now but does more dmg if i remembr right?

[ebon smelt]

while i still keep smite and dome

[uncut hamlet]

i didnt pay too much attention to it tbh since i dont use surge

[ebon smelt]

i dont know the specificts, but it felt that way

[uncut hamlet]

i think smite surge is redundant. what if you take bb and kinetic flayer with a crit build on surge? high single target dps

keep dome since it has utility unless you want smth else

[ebon smelt]

yeah, surge is only two targets now

[keen harbor]

Classic: flame, brain burst, warp charges

I too like the Assail, Shield and voidstrike combo

[ebon smelt]

one main and one jump

[ebon smelt]

what is kinectic flayer? i am still not used to the new stuff

oh its a perk for the new bb

found it

[teal needle]

That's the old thing, 10% chance to bb on hit

Been around since launch

[ebon smelt]

yeah, i just didint remember it by name

and it sill does trigger with a wide spread attack, like surge?

[teal needle]

Surge is single target now lol but yes

[keen harbor]

kinetic flayer, IMO, not as good as Assail

[ebon smelt]

god dammint yeah, things are weird now

[teal needle]

Haha yeah

[late yew]

i love new surge

[teal needle]

Practically a new game

[keen harbor]

I'm not entirely sold on new surge staff

It feels like it needs a different selection of blessings

[teal needle]

Only problem with new surge is that new voidstrike is so cracked

[ebon smelt]

what perks are you running with it? i need some inspiration

[late yew]

Actually don't know, i forgot 😄

and i close the game

[glossy onyx]

Hey I'm a new psyker player but I'm really enjoying Smite, does anybody have a talent tree setup thats good for it? I play Zealot usually so not very familiar with all of this

[late yew]

but i would guess carapace is needed now