psyker-class

[viscid matrix]

DD marking is very annoying, kinda hope they fix the marking so it doesnt change target 5 times is 5 seconds before i shoot

[wise ruin]

anyone got a decent palpatine build? i wanna try it out

[sterile saddle]

I meant on destint

[viscid matrix]

take the 30s buff, instead of the 30 stacks, cause reaching 30 stacks is not likely to happen

[sterile saddle]

15 isn't likely to happen..

[thorn cedar]

Ye my buddy said DD was pretty underwhelming

Even fishing for the marked target immediately with a Revolver the pay off is mid

Haven't done new Psyker stuff yet myself

[sterile saddle]

I'd rather mark multiple targets and get only 10 stacks.

[viscid matrix]

DD is great, its just not as good as EB

[sterile saddle]

At least then I'd get at least 10

[brave turret]

are we pyskers the new veteran?

[sterile saddle]

No vet still vets

[viscid matrix]

we are at least Elite killers now, since Void can wreck them

[whole oxide]

for that you'd have to be oblivious to how OP you are and convinced you're bullied

[sterile saddle]

I think vet complaints consist of not having enuff perks for their whole skill tree xD

Cuz it's all good stuff

[viscid matrix]

mostly the fact they lost a bunch of buffs, and want them back 😄

[lament topaz]

Damnation was not a better idea than Heresy

[sterile saddle]

They lost having all the buffs at the same time

[jovial bone]

They might pump out clothing sets but making them yourself is 100 times better :>

[sterile saddle]

All of the skills are still in there

[viscid matrix]

the unlimited ranger stance is gone 😄

[tall mango]

ogryn is

[sterile saddle]

Don't They have a 5 second recharge?

On elite kills?

[viscid matrix]

and the average at best veterans cant take advantage of that, and are complaining 😄

[sterile saddle]

Relentless

O

I mean I saw a helbore vet mopping mobs

[gleaming sparrow]

are there any builds around that i can try?

[sterile saddle]

Apparently they get UNLIMITED ammo with crits

Bro

[viscid matrix]

try out random builds, until you find something you like 😄 every blitz, aura, ability and keystone works

[proper elbow]

Whats the use case for Scribe's Fury? I like it in theory but in practice its too little, too short lived, and encourages you not to spend peril while active and deprives you of shriek's venting the rest of the time

[sterile saddle]

It works well with sword and guns

[viscid matrix]

its best for Gunker/melee builds, and you can quell to keep the peril down for a bit

[sterile saddle]

But it's still too short lived and the impact is not 100%

[zinc phoenix]

So I’ve been trying a low cheese build

[cold oasis]

Tbh, perk wise Zealot is the worst, you can't really have big choices

[zinc phoenix]

Basic idea is to have high peril constantly and use it for doing stuff

[cold oasis]

since everything is clumped up

[sterile saddle]

Like sword baiting?

[proper elbow]

This has been the Illisi Blaze force sword build for the last 6 months

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve been running shriek with damage from high peril, smite and warp charges to shriek more. I’m also using quell on toughness and a couple other things that give me bonus for toughness

[neat summit]

Is this where we drip post?

[zinc phoenix]

Trauma stick and yeah illsi

Honestly the paid costumes are all so weird looking

Idk why people buy them 🤷‍♀️

[neat summit]

peg. leg.

[zinc phoenix]

🤷‍♀️

[sterile saddle]

Expendable income + feels gud

[zinc phoenix]

I’m probably gonna switch trauma to void

Because void is busted

[sterile saddle]

Yeh

[zinc phoenix]

I mean I have buttloads of income but I’m not spending it to look weird

[sterile saddle]

Void strong now make me happy

[zinc phoenix]

It makes me sad

I want surge to be good and trauma to have a niche

Surge is really fun to use rn except that it just doesn’t do near as much as void

[viscid matrix]

Surge is good, its not a horde weapon, it is verry good against any elites/specialists

[zinc phoenix]

It’s not

Void nukes them faster

[viscid matrix]

Void is overtuned

[zinc phoenix]

Yes

Surge is especially bad because it’s slow to charge

[sterile saddle]

Surgestick does t require aiming tho

[zinc phoenix]

Like you really have to aim with void 😂

[viscid matrix]

it does now, and cant go thru walls like before

[sterile saddle]

U do

[zinc phoenix]

Just chaingun til you hit it

[sterile saddle]

U gotta fully charge voidstixk too for those big hits

[cold oasis]

Surge is bad? what the fuck?

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah but see you can full charge when it’s a long hallway and chaingun big balls when aiming

[viscid matrix]

dont worry, i think they are crazy too

[zinc phoenix]

Yes

[cold oasis]

Surge is probably the strongest weapon we have right now for single target xd

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve tested both heavily, void does all the same stuff better

[cold oasis]

They even gave it fucking KM of range now, for god knows what reasojn

[zinc phoenix]

Four shots of surge for a friggen flamer 😂

[sterile saddle]

They increased surge range?

[zinc phoenix]

On Damnation

[zinc phoenix]

Yes but compared to void it’s terrible

[cold oasis]

Either now, or some patches ago when i wasn't playing

[viscid matrix]

Surge, under a second to fully charge, and its only 71% charge rate

[cold oasis]

It wasn't THIS long

[zinc phoenix]

K now compare to a void stick cleaving crushers

And doin stagger

Or blapping thru bulwark shields

[viscid matrix]

Surge Staggers and kills crushers in 2 hits, and ignores bulwark shields

[zinc phoenix]

So does void

Except aoe instead of two targets

[cold oasis]

Yeah but void you gotta aim

[zinc phoenix]

One of which gets barely any damage

[zinc phoenix]

Friggen 😂

How can you miss

It’s a giant friggen ball

[sterile saddle]

Name checks out

[viscid matrix]

hmm, looks like its good at single target damage

[old flame]

What’s the benefit of the dueling sword

[austere sandal]

psyker definitely got the best of the krieg armors, looks so good and actually mixes well with other armors

[viscid matrix]

mobility and rend

[zinc phoenix]

Void traited right hits 1.4k+ aoe

And doesn’t have to worry about whether the target is wearing metal

[viscid matrix]

we know its good, its overtuned and def needs to be nerfed to bring it inline with the other staves, or they all need a buff

[zinc phoenix]

And generates MASSIVELY less peril

[viscid matrix]

and void being overtuned does not make surge a shit staff

[zinc phoenix]

It is shit

Even after the changes to void trauma will be better than surge

Because lower peril and aoe stagger

And more damage

Against most targets

Surge needs a peril reduction and more damage

[spice oar]

idk about more dmg

[sterile saddle]

What if we add a painted pvc pipe to the end of the barrel and load paint balls into it to scare the enemes

[white sigil]

i swear i dont see any psykers running lightning builds its all assail, which is understandable cause its a great offence

[zinc phoenix]

I stopped using empowered smite because I got tired of carrying whole teams thru auric Damnation with a bug

I’m using warp charge smite now which is still good but less cheesy

[limber heath]

I just like assail because it still kinda requires you to aim sometimes

[zinc phoenix]

Idk why people are so hard for assail, the damage output against large numbers of special/elite targets isn’t great and the cc isn’t enough

[viscid matrix]

because smite does minimal damage, even tho its currently an OP cc tool, and with empowerd can be channeled forever

[zinc phoenix]

It’s fun on malice tho

[paper harbor]

imma swap this good stats to tier 4 nexus and flurry

[plucky flax]

Still using bb

[white sigil]

i love it cause it frees up my secondary for me to use a revolver instead of a staff making it easier to pick off stubburn long distance enemies

[lucid fulcrum]

bb my beloved

[paper harbor]

yeah i have 3 of loadout has smite

[viscid matrix]

nah we using Brain Rupture now 😄

[zinc phoenix]

I did a couple bb builds and I wish they’d give it an absurd boost to dmg vs bosses 😂

[crude talon]

I haven’t been here for 3000 years hello fellow psykers

[cold oasis]

K E K

[paper harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sheev-palpatine-unlimited-power-power-force-gif-5073064

[static orchid]

what's a good keystone for assail?

[crude talon]

What’s the meta build now?

[cold oasis]

Just use barrier on every single build

is just so strong nothing compares

[zinc phoenix]

D o m e

[plucky flax]

Bb and the shriek. I'm old school psyker.

[lucid fulcrum]

dome shield plus warp charges are amazing

[white sigil]

i love seeing when im running on heresy or damnation and i have specials pinned and my Tm8's slaughter them

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve been doing damnation runs with shriek/smite/warp charges

[lament topaz]

Counterpoint, funny rock

[zinc phoenix]

Lel

[lament topaz]

That is not the one I meant to reply to.

[viscid matrix]

i bounce my peril between 90 and 100% constantly, so i have shriek as a get out of jail button for when i make a mistake

[white sigil]

i perfer being a support player and thats how most of my builds run from ogryn, psyker, and zealot, i provide means for my team to decimate enemies while sacraficing my ability to do massive offensive damage

[zinc phoenix]

Gunlugger ogryn is absurd

[warm spindle]

talking about the bug that makes it use no peril

yeah that shit is busted

[zinc phoenix]

Yep it’s super stupid

[lament topaz]

This

[zinc phoenix]

Also my finger started hurting from holding mouse 1

[warm spindle]

I just dodge/slid throughout the level and it literally stuns everything

even mutants

[zinc phoenix]

The damage output from it at high peril is not bad and warp charges make it come back really fast

I’ve been liking it for reeeing down specialists

[lament topaz]

What if emp isn't a bug and it's working as intended?

[zinc phoenix]

Then obese fish is dumb and should feel bad

[viscid matrix]

wouldnt be suprised if it is, but maybe they make it 99% peril reduction, so you cant use it forever 😄 or just remove that part since its not in the tooltip

[lament topaz]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zinc phoenix]

Paired with ree youd still be able to eversmite

[lament topaz]

I'm just now realizing that I can get near infinite toughness with this and smite/assail

[warm spindle]

theres nothing in the talents that says empowered psyonics makes the cost 0, only ups the damage

its clearly a fartshark bug

dont tell them tho

[zinc phoenix]

The problem is you only really need toughness in melee and guess where you aren’t gonna be using assail

[empty onyx]

I think I found the stupidest Psyker build. But I really want to make it work.

[viscid matrix]

details

[lament topaz]

No no, it says it on there.

Under a different blitz, but it still says it.

[zinc phoenix]

“Simply brain burst yourself” 🧙‍♀️

[lament topaz]

So I don't think it's a bug.

Well, a "bug"

[viscid matrix]

wouldnt be suprised if its supposed to be 100% for all 3, and thy didnt put it in the smite part of the tooltip

[zinc phoenix]

It’s not intended that I can duo the highest possible difficulty by going ass to ass with another psyker

[lament topaz]

Sounds like something FS would do, tbh

[warm spindle]

you only get the inf peril with specifically smite and specifically empowered psyonics

[toxic walrus]

what blessings do you want on dueling sword?

[warm spindle]

and when you have a stack of psyonics it does the inf peril

[viscid matrix]

power based on peril and rend

[lament topaz]

That's uh...that's the point my dude.

[summer prairie]

in the code only "blitz 1" has the reduction but I think it gets set for all of them inadvertently

[zinc phoenix]

Honestly what I’d actually like from empowered smite is asstons more damage

[lament topaz]

At the cost of hella peril.

[zinc phoenix]

Like I don’t need it to be infinite, I need it to do more killing

[warm spindle]

thats empowered assail not smite

[zinc phoenix]

The infinite is more powerful but more boring

[summer prairie]

I'm not talking about the text, talking about the actual implementation

it's clearly not intended that blitz 2 also has it

[zinc phoenix]

Where if empowered smite gave me an asston of peril fast but also an asston of damage that’d be fun and interesting and give me a nice peril management problem

[warm spindle]

speed

[viscid matrix]

yep that works well

[zinc phoenix]

I see someone else noticed speed demon psyker 😂

[warm spindle]

slap on a knife on that build and you are so fast

[zinc phoenix]

I tried to use it for melee psyker

[viscid matrix]

also this

[zinc phoenix]

It did not work gooder

[empty onyx]

https://scontent-ham3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/70164719_2489572167790885_487098292648280064_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=stkwO4B7jW0AX9OuwYk&_nc_ht=scontent-ham3-1.xx&oh=00_AfChkExBlTCiMO378IVQoDFjwjuJ3hxqXRwsy8ShLTc0zQ&oe=654638DD

[zinc phoenix]

Turns out disrupt destiny sucks ass to get on a melee char

[whole oxide]

scrier's is nice for it, can't say disrupt destiny feels like it does much

[zinc phoenix]

And the team is not supportive of me needing to hunt down specific stuff

[vale hatch]

which build is the best for psyker ? Been a while since i played the game

[zinc phoenix]

The problem is the other two don’t synergize at all for dedicated melee

[ionic needle]

The one that does damage

[viscid matrix]

i hope DD gtes fixed so it just marks the closest enemy to you, instead of a random enemy within 25 meters that can swap randomly every second

[vale hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/internet-wow-science-revelation-mind-blown-gif-17085219

thanks

[whole oxide]

right now psyker's pretty strong so you can run whatever you feel like, but strongest is probably voidstrike/assail

[zinc phoenix]

There are several viable control and damage builds rn

[vale hatch]

Nice thank you

[empty onyx]

Toss in a revolver.

[zinc phoenix]

You can honestly just try stuff and you’ll have a good time

[lament topaz]

I love cspawns so much I totally have a way of countering them.

[ionic needle]

Maybe go horizontally instead vertically through the tree to get some good melee buffs? Are capstones really required after all!?

[empty onyx]

Blue pops up, you snap aim and pop the head with a bullet.

[viscid matrix]

revolver is meh, its far to slow to take advantage of scriers and the 5 weakpoint guarenteed crit

[zinc phoenix]

I mean no but also yes

[toxic walrus]

do you run all crit talents?

[vale hatch]

I was playing at the release

I saw they added a lot of thing

[zinc phoenix]

Scrier and disrupt destiny work really well on gunker

[empty onyx]

No, I mean to collect the Disrupt Destiny on a melee focused Psyker.

[old flame]

Warp siphon looks better on paper than empowered

[viscid matrix]

ahh, yeh that could work

[mossy dust]

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[near wyvern]

Scrier is pretty darn good on transfer peril surge void

[viscid matrix]

warp charges are only from elite/specialists, soulburn, or 4% chance when an ally kills an enemy, and then you spend it every ability use

[whole oxide]

i wouldn't say shards always hits heads, its, like, 50:50

[viscid matrix]

it attempts to always hit weakspots

[mossy dust]

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[proper elbow]

If you're running a build that has you mostly using your weapons and not generating a lot of peril, Warp Siphon is a 24% passive damage buff that comes with some other perks

[near wyvern]

It has a lot of variables into it:

• how you throw it
• where it goes
• how it bounced of surfaces
• enemy movement

[whole oxide]

well exactly ^^

[toxic crown]

Hello again fellow Psykers

[whole oxide]

point is I wouldn't rely on it hitting weakspot every time

[austere burrow]

Warp charges are hard not to pick

[empty onyx]

How could I forget?!

[viscid matrix]

if thats the case, you run with DD for precision bonus

[proper elbow]

DD is super inconsistent for me. Enemies arent visibly marked and it falls off all the time.

[mossy dust]

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[proper elbow]

Warp Siphon ticks down by 1 when it expires, DD falls off entirely

[zinc phoenix]

This was my experience too

[viscid matrix]

its visible, as long as there is no soulburn being used

[neat summit]

This has been my trouble. I can't tell who's marked and who's not

[austere burrow]

The mark is on whoever is wallhacked lol

[zinc phoenix]

But if soulbirb used good luck

[proper elbow]

It also seems to hit a limit of how many enemies can be marked and stops marking them, which is troublesome when you dont know which ones to kill

[viscid matrix]

its a visible blue aura, and you can see it thru walls

[empty onyx]

This. They glow bright blue. But it's the same blue the soulburn uses.

[zinc phoenix]

😂 true truths

[proper elbow]

It must not be working for everyone because I dont see it at all

[austere burrow]

In game or psykaniun?

[viscid matrix]

because its a chance to mark them

[zinc phoenix]

Turn around and look inside the walls, game actively trolls you with the mark

[viscid matrix]

Psykanium doesnt show DD mark at all, it will never show there

[austere burrow]

Yeah

[near wyvern]

Take mettle and then the ranged evasion on crit and any cleave melee with shred, fun times.

[zinc phoenix]

Chain sword master race

I tried dueling sword for a crit build, did not love

[viscid matrix]

the DD mark is very obvious, the only problem is when it keeps moving to new enemies before the previous one is killed

watching it bounce around is frustrating

[zinc phoenix]

It’s not worth the hassle

Especially when people assailing all the shit

[near wyvern]

Yeah I am not a fan of DD

I like Empower BB with my surge stun shield build

[austere burrow]

If it prioritized people close to you it might feel better to use

[proper elbow]

DD would be better if it werent so weirdly inconsistent

But as is you will get skill issue'd out of your buff almost more often then you get past 5 stacks

[near wyvern]

The problem with DD is also that it can't spawn on trash

[viscid matrix]

the incosistency of the marking is the only problem with it, if you can get and maintain 15/30 stacks its actually amazing

[zinc phoenix]

It’d be nice if it worked like vet stance marking where it just marked an assload of targets

That way you’d be pretty sure of killing one regularly

[viscid matrix]

yeh thats just FS being shit at writing tooltips again 😄

[near wyvern]

With DD there is always the risk that you tunnel vision on getting stacks and don't pay attention to where it matters

[honest frigate]

HEY GUYS QUESTION
is the krieg set worth getting for the psyker, even if im mostly interested only in the torso cosmetic and not the headgear?

[austere burrow]

The numbers on dd are absurd

[near wyvern]

Yeah oh boi their tooltips do be inconsistent. Atheneum is WIP but already there are incorrect tooltips and what not.

[viscid matrix]

are you willing to spend money, if so yes, if not no

[proper elbow]

Its pricier per item but if you only want one item you can just buy one item

[drowsy slate]

I like the blitz keystone and the old warp charge keystone more then the Wallhack keystone

[near wyvern]

What the fuck is a blitz keystone

[proper elbow]

I feel like people shit on warp siphon for no reason

[limber heath]

Wtf is a blitz keystone aren't hose two different things

[drowsy slate]

The middle one 😂

[proper elbow]

One of the keystones affects your blitz

[drowsy slate]

The keystone that improves your blitz ability

[proper elbow]

Thus, the blitz keystone

[limber heath]

Oh

[near wyvern]

Yes, we have:

• blitz
• ability
• aura
• keystone

Don't mix em up cause they don't

Empower?

[limber heath]

Well no blitz keystone is actually fair

[viscid matrix]

blitz keystone =/= empower

[limber heath]

But I prefer just calling it empowered

[shy fiber]

Is that why????

I was so confused why it would never spawn despite a wave spawning

[near wyvern]

Yup

Can't spawn on trash

[proper elbow]

Theyre gonna have to fix that or it'll be Veterans complaining about getting cockblocked all over again

[viscid matrix]

yeh, it only spawns on specialist lites, specialists, and elites

[shy fiber]

And gunners in my experience

[near wyvern]

Horde hits and you drop your stacks because of it

[shy fiber]

But why trash gunners and not trash in general

[whole oxide]

i'm sure i've seen it on the middle-tier non-elite/special stuff

[shy fiber]

So weird

[white oar]

what's the take on dueling sword vs force sword

[whole oxide]

like, shooters, bruisers

[shy fiber]

I guess I have to use DD 30 sec perk then

[white oar]

What do you get with the dueling sword other than better peril management I guess

[shy fiber]

Otherwise I sacrifice a lot of consistency

It’s literally warp charge v1 all over again

[viscid matrix]

only way its viable until they patch the marking to actually be consistant

[wise lodge]

Can a kind psyker recommend me a good build plz ?

[shy fiber]

Do you want CC, Balanced, or damage

[viscid matrix]

rend and peril power

[limber heath]

I heard force swords lost like half their breakpoints this patch?

[shy fiber]

Utility focused?

[near wyvern]

What's the point of playing chase the mouse mini game when you drop the stacks just as you are about to unleash your full power

[shy fiber]

Psykers can do whatever you want them to do

[wise lodge]

I can have all three if you don't mind ?

[shy fiber]

So balanced ig

[wise lodge]

I'm down for anything

[wise lodge]

I mean all 3 builds

[shy fiber]

Oh

Is there a build planner anywhere?

And what staves do you want to use

[wise lodge]

Voidstrike, surge and purg

[viscid matrix]

no build planner, but you have 5 loadout slots ingame, make 5 different builds, see what you like and then modify them

[shy fiber]

Usually my builds are contingent on what I want to compensate with my staff

[whole oxide]

imagine recommending all except trauma

[shy fiber]

Ikr

Trauma is my precious baby

I love trauma

I LOVE TRAUMA

[viscid matrix]

trauma is still good, just i hate the playstyle with dropping circles via looking up

[wise lodge]

I dont like trauma for this reason

[shy fiber]

Someone didn’t play vermintide 2

[whole oxide]

trauma got massively buffed, but, nobody noticed because void

[limber heath]

I wish trauma just went on the ground where you pointed

[shy fiber]

Did it?

[full egret]

I don’t really like surge, never had. I find it’s current DPS lacking as well right now

[austere burrow]

I regret not fishing for trauma staves back when they were ass

[near wyvern]

Purgatus is the one that got hit the hardest, the rest of the three are very well performing

[whole oxide]

yes

ALOT

[plucky flax]

I did. Trauma is super op now blaze trauma in particular.

[shy fiber]

How so

[full egret]

Void has always been my staff and I’m super happy with it

[shy fiber]

I never noticed because my trauma staff is my baby

[whole oxide]

they basically doubled its damage

[shy fiber]

Crit trauma build 😳😳

[viscid matrix]

im a surge enjoyer, and its better than ever

[shy fiber]

Surge is absurd

I don’t even want to know what a fully built surge can do

[austere burrow]

Surge felt lackluster to me

[full egret]

Yep

Surge seemed mid as always

[austere burrow]

What are you guys running to make it feel good

[zinc phoenix]

Idk I think purgatus is strong rn, soulfire is really good and you can spam it hard

[viscid matrix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1159516612962037801/image.png?ex=65314eff&is=651ed9ff&hm=c97d6a3d30139fb24a84ddaffe03880bff88cc07c7319d5f0e717e64829f6ec0&

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[whole oxide]

right now, if you set aside what's fun and just look at pure objective power: void > trauma > purg > surge

[full egret]

Even running full crit build (minus scriers cause that’s unsustainable)

[zinc phoenix]

I agree, this is about where I’d put things

I think purg can edge out trauma if you build for it tho

[near wyvern]

I mean you can make it work but fire trauma is just far superior if you actually wanna light stuff up.

[wise lodge]

For crit builds, do you take the right keystone ?

[shy fiber]

Purgatus ascendant blaze builds are still fun

[full egret]

The issue with surge is you have a charge and a casting time as well as rng targeting

[shy fiber]

Like you just absolutely demolish trash mobs

[near wyvern]

Battle Meditation with Transfer Peril Surge void can get ez 30 stacks.

[zinc phoenix]

The big advantage of purg is ease of use in a target rich environment. You can spin to win and soulfire everything

[full egret]

Pretty much, though I’ve just been using empowered due to assail being fun

[viscid matrix]

it targets where you put your mouse, and a channel takes 1 second, and the cast animation is less than a second

[whole oxide]

or, you do the same with trauma, without needing to spin

[zinc phoenix]

Also with the “suppress on kill” trait purg makes it really easy to hold stuff back

[near wyvern]

The big advantage with fire trauma is that you don't even need to spin, and you don't need to stress about crushers and bulwarks.

[shy fiber]

Trauma gives me fuzzy feelings because of the gibbing

[full egret]

Transfer peril wasn’t working as much as I wanted tbh, seemed to only proc once on a ball which isn’t enough

[zinc phoenix]

Even maxed out trauma charge don’t clear near so much

Maybe im just shit at aiming trauma

[full egret]

That’s still half the fire rate of a void

[zinc phoenix]

Or run into stairs too often

[wise lodge]

For the melee weapon, dueling sword is the best rn ?

[sterile saddle]

With scriers?

[zinc phoenix]

Stairs and trauma holy shit what a nightmare

[full egret]

And when you only need to clear chaff a good void can do three shots a second and meet threshold

[whole oxide]

thats not how blazing-trauma works

[zinc phoenix]

Chainsword for offense, illsi with deflector also pretty good imo

[harsh urchin]

it's utter trash lul

[viscid matrix]

Void is overtuned, we already know this
that doesnt make surge shit, its actually amazing at clearing elites and specialists

[harsh urchin]

node feels terrible to use

[zinc phoenix]

Bruh

It’s not

This is cope because surge is fun to use

[full egret]

I use assail for in armored specials and elites, and then void/sword for everything else

[zinc phoenix]

But it’s not good rn

I wish it was too

[full egret]

Void finally has a place

[zinc phoenix]

But objectively surge is the worst rn

[zinc phoenix]

Walk me thru how you think it works

[full egret]

It’s a bowling ball of death, they lowered its AOE capabilities to represent this

[upper galleon]

“Lowered”

[near wyvern]

Exhibition A, fire trauma. Had to solo a horde and res the team twice. Auric Damnation.

[viscid matrix]

Surge is better than it was last patch, it went from a mediocre 6 target stun with shit damage, to being able to 2shot crushers and maulers

[full egret]

30% nerf to its AOE size

[upper galleon]

Mfw my surge procs and i clear a hallway

[whole oxide]

the trauma blast has an inner and outer blast zone, the outer blast zone is much much larger than the circle on the ground, and it can still crit and apply soulblaze via blessing

[shy fiber]

Do you use flurry + blazing?

[whole oxide]

if you're just looking at the inner blast for blazing-trauma, you're looking at it wrong

[upper galleon]

You should use nexus and blazing

[near wyvern]

Nexus + blazing

[shy fiber]

Ok

[upper galleon]

And hopefully have an 80% radius

[shy fiber]

Not having flurry is going to feel weird

[proper elbow]

Playing with DD some more, it seems like it has issues with consistently marking enemies. I've started seeing marks appear but soemtimes I go four minutes without a single one

[plucky flax]

52 mins 💀

[zinc phoenix]

Ok, so im missing the blessing that makes it good

[shy fiber]

Literally me

[full egret]

Yep

[fair kayak]

Carapace or Flak damage for Voidstrike?

[full egret]

Really disappointed on that

[hoary badge]

Marks don't spawn on hordes

[lapis bay]

I go Carapace, it shreds flak already

[zinc phoenix]

DD is the worst, avoid

It’s a trap

[near wyvern]

For the curious, this was the build I used.

[zinc phoenix]

🪤

[upper galleon]

I take maniac and crit chance and i can still one shot crushers with a surge proc

[cold oasis]

I'm 99% sure due how it works: it tag 1 enemy, and only 1 enemy. If you guys go forward and that guy doesn't die but "deaggro" you'll never see another

[hoary badge]

Best way to keep up stacks is to aggressively push into ambients

[upper galleon]

Honestly tho flak is prob fine good too

Im considering unyielding on void for bulwarks and reapers

[full egret]

I’d go flak personally, hitting those thresholds easier is nice

[shy fiber]

Ahhh went with BB?

[near wyvern]

It does take some time when you gotta solo parts of it.

[zinc phoenix]

BB is really good with short range weaps

[full egret]

Especially since you’re going to be aiming at the flak armored heads when using transfer on the staff

[upper galleon]

Yee those scab ragers can be tankier than crushers idk what is up

[proper elbow]

I think its just bugged

[fair kayak]

dis good?

[whole oxide]

BB is honestly still the best pick, because Assail doesn't actually add anything to your build, it just substitutes one primary weapon for another

[upper galleon]

I dont use transfer i use nexus +surge

[cold oasis]

The fuck you going on about

[zinc phoenix]

Like if you have trauma/purg and reee you should BB so you can hit stuff that isn’t two feet away

[old flame]

So is BB weaker than before or not?

[cold oasis]

Assail is probably the most busted skill in the game

[zinc phoenix]

I kinda agree except for smite being really good

[cold oasis]

You can clear fucking hallways of non flak elites

[zinc phoenix]

😂 not even close

[viscid matrix]

same as before, and dogs get 1 tap by it

[full egret]

Assail is amazing and the moment you go to hunting grounds you’ll realize it

[whole oxide]

what does Assail do that my primary weapon doesn't already do?

[cold oasis]

Fucking hit 3+ target each?

[zinc phoenix]

😂

[cold oasis]

Without charging?

With autoaim?

[whole oxide]

oh, wauw, 3 targets

[zinc phoenix]

Comedy gold

[shy fiber]

Throw two daggers + take out trauma staff

EZ money

[austere burrow]

Wtf that's what surge is

That's so op

[cold oasis]

Who even uses a staff anymore the fuck

[harsh urchin]

ppl who dont play on 3s

lul

[upper galleon]

Clears horde faster than purge

[full egret]

It feels like more than three lol. When a hound hunt starts I throw my shards and the kill feed fills up with dogs

[zinc phoenix]

Congrats, you’re the chosen one

[cold oasis]

that's why i said 3+

[upper galleon]

Shards are overtuned rn

[hoary badge]

Assail promotes too much tunnel vision for my liking

[cold oasis]

I think it's more, but honestly can't be sure

[upper galleon]

But you take void or surge staff to cover your weaknesses

[full egret]

I do blow myself up with my eagerness with shards

[cold oasis]

all i know is just "spam some knife, everything dies, move forward"

[whole oxide]

well, if you feel it, then, must be true

[zinc phoenix]

Void does everything assail does but massively better tbh

[cold oasis]

K E K

[upper galleon]

Assail is very much primary weapon coded and does its job well

[full egret]

Lmao

[zinc phoenix]

I guess if you can’t aim assail is ok tho

[upper galleon]

Void doesnt clear open area hordes like shards

[cold oasis]

Absolutely, you're right, every game i simply have all the Gunners just stand in a row

[hallow needle]

but it sure as hell cleaves through hordes and takes any elite with it in the process :D

[upper galleon]

Void and assail is a good combo, surge assail is a good combo

[cold oasis]

not shooting ame

[full egret]

Yep. Saying it’s a second primary weapon is a selling point not a negative. Having it in my toolkit has been super important

[cold oasis]

and going "oh the game is so good, i can just void it"

[hallow needle]

purgatus still best staff

BURN THE HERETIC

[upper galleon]

So does assail spam with empowered

[upper galleon]

Purge BB feels like the most classic psyker

With warp charges

[hallow needle]

i personally go with warp charges instead of empowered

[upper galleon]

It’s pretty good

[cold oasis]

Warp Charges is far better than empowered for Assail

the peril reduction is godsend

[indigo portal]

I like having Assail since it feels like I have a 3rd weapon that I can actually use. Love it with a Deimos and a Trauma.

[spice oar]

ayo?

[upper galleon]

For shards empowered is better, you run out of ammo before peril reduction matters

[hallow needle]

6 warp charges are easy to upkeep plus i get to spam my bubble shield

[shy fiber]

I’m ok with Assail having the same strength, I just want it to be adjusted to the point where I can’t spam it as much

[hallow needle]

havnt had the issue yet

[upper galleon]

Empowered gives free ammo, free peril, and free damage

[shy fiber]

I think that’s the best way to manage it tbh

[upper galleon]

Its just ebtter when you are shooting into mixed hordes or gunner squads

[zinc phoenix]

I think assail has high skill floor low skill ceiling and doesn’t scale very well vs truly massive elite spam

[quiet galleon]

what blessings do you need for a Fire Trauma build?

[viscid matrix]

agreed, drop the ammo generation by a fair bit, and it will be inline with BR and Sm

[hallow needle]

but not too much ;3

[upper galleon]

I mean i dont take shield with assail i take vent

[zinc phoenix]

Why

[spice oar]

blazing spirit and warp nexus

[zinc phoenix]

The peril management for assail is not challenging

[spice oar]

or flurry works ig

[upper galleon]

Honestly i want them to drop ammo entirely

[hallow needle]

bubble shield best shield

[zinc phoenix]

If you aren’t Scrier

[upper galleon]

Just increase peril cost and lower the rate of fire

Having both ammo and peril is stupid

[paper trail]

when are they going to let us save multiple loadouts?

[hallow needle]

i love how in the last few seconds of scrier you cant even quell fast enough to counteract the gain

[indigo portal]

The vent isn't for just assail I presume. It's still nice for staves.

[indigo portal]

You already can.

[zinc phoenix]

Build codes would be even more useful

[whole oxide]

tbh, they could just remove the fast-cast Assail option, the slow-cast 25% aimed version feels pretty fair

[cold oasis]

You can, top right there's a +

[analog agate]

When you get a chance can you drop your skill tree for blaze trauma? Disregard. Saw you linked earlier

[upper galleon]

Or let me keep quelling after 0% peril to load ammo faster

[hallow needle]

no thats too slow in the end

[paper trail]

oh my god thank you so much lol

[shy fiber]

Wish we can name our load outs

[proper elbow]

For me the issue with DD seems to be enemy types. it only marks shotgunners, gunners, and the yellow shooters

[hallow needle]

also the loadout button is hidden away way too much

[cold oasis]

You can icon them

[shy fiber]

Hm?

[upper galleon]

Vent is nice stagger and dps addition and lets me go ham when it is off cooldown

[cold oasis]

Right* Click the number, it pop outs icon

[full egret]

Shield is such an important team tool though

[hallow needle]

well i gotta go do more warcrimes and burn heretics

[upper galleon]

I rarely need it tbh

[neat hearth]

Bruh I got 2014'd on an auric haz 5 at the VERY END
I'm so peeved rn we were doing so well

[full egret]

Healing your team plus negating shooters? Why would you ever pass that up

[upper galleon]

My shards clear shooters

Really well

[hallow needle]

yes but buble shield is bubble shield

best shield

[full egret]

Mhm

[upper galleon]

I need my crutch vent okay

[full egret]

I’m a bubble blowing psyker and proud of it

Lol

[hallow needle]

you get to feel like master chief in the halo 3 trailer

[cold oasis]

Shards clear literally everything screens away, no matter how they are spread out

[hallow needle]

https://tenor.com/view/shield-halo-gif-24427723

[whole oxide]

shield definitely feels like the strongest choice, but, it's not as adrenaline-inducing as Scriers

[upper galleon]

I’m fucking table top accurate psyker im gonna blow tf up

[atomic forum]

tbf these are things you should be prioritizing anyway

[upper galleon]

Idk new vent bursting soulblaze or 200 flat damage is so nice

[hallow needle]

i like that you can now have 6 warp charges AND vent soulblaze

[burnt tapir]

Scriers only plays well with really low peril weapons

[hallow needle]

before you ahd to choose

[atomic forum]

the damage on vent seems bad

[burnt tapir]

shield works with literally anything

[atomic forum]

like. 200 is not a lot

[neat hearth]

I go pre-patch vanilla psyker soulblaze build since BB works extremely well with Purgatorus

[full egret]

The thing is though, shield+assail buys you precious seconds to accomplish something that’s not shooting

[hallow needle]

200 is horde clearing

its not meant to kill armored units

[cold oasis]

Scriers is shit

[upper galleon]

6 charges just doesnt mesh with assail you have warp resist just to run out of ammo

[full egret]

Does 200 clear on auric?

[hallow needle]

no clue dont play auric

[burnt tapir]

I use it with Purg staff for the crit chance and it seems file

[whole oxide]

200 won't clear anything by itself, but i guess it makes it easier to followup

[atomic forum]

clearing poxwalkers is like. not that much utility really though

[full egret]

Well there’s your problem

[upper galleon]

I guess if you are running shield its better but if not empowering is great

[atomic forum]

shout is still my favorite ability but because base shout is insane

[upper galleon]

Auric is the same stats as damnation

[hallow needle]

nah i just dont care about it, no real special extra reward

[timber cove]

How are people feeling about smite

[upper galleon]

Auric damn has same stats as normal damn

[timber cove]

i cant gauge if i like it or not personally

[cold oasis]

It's fun, sure, but it's just terrible overall.

[crimson shell]

its funny with EP charges

[full egret]

Typically I just slot one point into auto burn on elite kills so that the units become squishy and tender for the zealot to one shot

[crimson shell]

since you dont consume peril while using

[cold oasis]

Or, let's just say that wall is such a better thing

[crimson shell]

you can just hold down the button

and forever use the ability

[atomic forum]

the soulblaze shout is also just more damage im p sure

[crimson shell]

as long as you dont get hit 🙂

[atomic forum]

so like

[full egret]

It’s funny but has the old surge staff problem of needing other people to kill for you

[atomic forum]

smite is good cc, so it's fun in a group

[spice oar]

smite is very fun even without the bug

[timber cove]

I think the crystals feel a bit clunky

what bug?

[spice oar]

especially if you pair with surge cause then palpatine

[lapis bay]

Its fun until people frag all your kills, so it's good if you're comfortable with the support role

[spice oar]

infinite smite, broken af

[timber cove]

oh i see

[queen fog]

Empowered psyonics for some reason gives smite no peril cost even tho it isn’t stated on the keystone

From what we know or at least what I know only assail is supposed to have that

[whole oxide]

anyone got alot of experience with devils-claws? which mk is preferred?

[timber cove]

assail is the crystals right?

[queen fog]

Yea the magic missles

[timber cove]

cool

[hallow needle]

guys

can i keep him?

[crimson shell]

bb too right?

[hallow needle]

doesnt look like he has an owner

[lapis bay]

he just wants some rashuns

[proper elbow]

Are charged Illisi Blaze Force Sword (charged as in weaponspecial not heavy) attacks considered warp attacks, non warp attacks, or both?

[empty onyx]

Yes.

[full egret]

Warp

[upper galleon]

also antoher reason assail empowered is good cause empowered hsrads can proc empowered themselves

[upper galleon]

warp attack

[full egret]

I did at first but I’ve learned to use them and love them

[hallow needle]

oh boy hes gonna pop

[full egret]

I just wish they always headshot when you javelin them

[timber cove]

Im guessing you dont just spam em all out

[hallow needle]

they tend to aim more for heads that way

[queen fog]

Sadly no but it does add reduced peril generation with psionic stack

[timber cove]

which is what the monkey brain tells me to do

[full egret]

I absolutely do!

Everyone gets meth knives!

[upper galleon]

no, unless you have empowered and vs a horde or large amount of shooters

[timber cove]

i shall listen to the monkey brain

[atomic forum]

just aim high

oop wrong message

[atomic forum]

lock on and then aim high

[upper galleon]

rest, it's good to save some for right click when you need to pick soemthoing off

[full egret]

Run empowered psionics and throw them at non carapace elites. Just watch your perils.

[queen fog]

Ngl I like that smite has a safety quell when u hit 100, so I can see why they’re rocking gaze

[full egret]

Doesn’t always work sadly

[empty onyx]

I think I found the setup for my Speed Psyker. Revolver & Assail to pick off Destiny targets and then go ham with Chainsword and ult.

[atomic forum]

idk pretty much every time i single out a sniper with it i get them immediately and it feels great

[full egret]

The javelin throw is basically to target snipers or bombers in the back lines, otherwise just yeeting them is fine

[full egret]

I’ve had high throws hit body sometimes, super annoying to have to retarget

[austere burrow]

How much do you have to charge a void staff to get the pierce version

Is it max charge only?

[lapis bay]

I hope we get cosmetics to change the assail crystals to something else, like knives or even snowballs

[hallow needle]

did they reduce shriek range?

[old flame]

You don’t like meth shards?

[upper galleon]

seems to be normal at 100% peril

[lapis bay]

Trust me I love OD'ing poxwalkers but imagine how cool it'd be to have your own custom throwables

[upper galleon]

it should be knives but shards are fine too i guess

knives would make more sense with the ammo system

[hallow needle]

see it like this, your mind cant think too fast to generate more

[upper galleon]

then the game should slow down the rate of fire and/or increase peril cost

[lapis bay]

ctrl c + ctrl v

[harsh urchin]

people will probably get mad

that they have to pay money to get the dart mtx

lololol

[lapis bay]

Or tied to penances, like kill 500k walkers and get the zombie finger throwable

[harsh urchin]

i think that the reddit is absolutely ridiculous rn

fatshark also fucked up

they shouldn't have said it took more effort, they should've just said "we're charging this much for this content"

[cold oasis]

Or you know, waiting what, 1 year for the real first content update

[hallow needle]

woah

one too many brain bursts

[lapis bay]

there's a booger there

[harsh urchin]

having to wait for the game to be in early access in one year before any content is a valid complaint

having to pay for cosmetics in the game is not a valid complaint lmao

[cold oasis]

it's the combination of the two that sucks

[tidal cipher]

did anyone loose 1 wound as psyker randomly? I checked my talents and gear. I had 3 now randomly always 2 wounds

[harsh urchin]

you get 2 by default in damnation difficulty

[tidal cipher]

OOOH

[timid brook]

Pretty much that, its stupid to try and justify, people will buy if they want it, saying it took effort like people will give a shit, this is why you need professionals to run your company's social media presence

[tidal cipher]

got it thanks

[timber cove]

i cant decide what staff to use

[ivory heath]

which sstaves are ppl saying are the best rn?

[timber cove]

no idea

[short vessel]

Now that the Duelling sword is good, what do I put on it?

[cold oasis]

Void and Surge>Trauma>Purgatus

[whole oxide]

those blessings are good, swap perks to maniac and whatever

[lapis bay]

voidstrike seems to be the one

[drowsy slate]

Voidstrike is insane

[timber cove]

idk which to refine on this

theyre both kinda doodoo imo

[drowsy slate]

Quell in weak spot hit I think

[shrewd comet]

is blazing spirit ona voidstrike staff good ?

[upper galleon]

nah, surge blessing is strictly better

[autumn smelt]

This is something you'd probably see on a drug subreddit with the caption "Holy fuck...."

[shrewd comet]

so blazing spirit is NOT good on voidstrike?

[autumn smelt]

It can be, but surge is just better tbh

[shrewd comet]

it can roll with surge though yes?

mines only epic

so

[autumn smelt]

Surge is a t4 blessing

[shrewd comet]

would surge and blazing spirit be good?

[fluid knot]

Speaking of knives have you used Shouties throwing knives yet? They're so good man

[autumn smelt]

No, you should be picking one or the other paired with warp nexus

[near wyvern]

Void base damage got doubled, they fixed surge cancelling on quell cancel and they reduced the size of the projectile so surge is the new king of crit for void

[shrewd comet]

warp nexus and surge then

got it! thank you much

[autumn smelt]

Nexus is what gives you the crit chance for those blessings to take effect

[fluid knot]

You could actually now True Aim is a thing, Void cleaves, so when shooting into a horde you will always hit more than 5 weakspot hits making every other shot proc both effects

I wouldnt say its optimal, but it certainly would work to decent effect

[autumn smelt]

Yeah with nexus you'll be reliably proccing it nearly half the time, and when it procs, you can one shot maulers and crushers from the 2 hits it sends

[fluid knot]

Might actually loop every shot after the initial one, i will test shortly

[autumn smelt]

I would be taking disrupt destiny anyway if you're using voidstrike so you'd have it anyway

[autumn smelt]

Which results in stuff like this

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/752156106071081021/1159349611270508636/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.10.04_-_23.19.14.23_-_Trim.mp4

[ivory heath]

isnt enhanced psioncs the play rn because on elite kill your blitz costs no peril

[sonic gale]

Am i best waiting till 30 to start crafting?

[autumn smelt]

It's entirely based on your build

[autumn smelt]

Yes, just play around with weapons to see which you like the feel of as you level so you know which ones you wanna craft

[sonic gale]

Nice one

[willow cobalt]

Anyone got a brain burst build?

[ivory heath]

dont go into high end content without weapons above 500, and buy greys at 265+

[zinc phoenix]

Try it and have fun but don’t go wild

Like really the resources are very available for the low end crafting

[viscid matrix]

yes, but you also can get blessings while leveling, via upgrading weapons to blue, then sacrificing the weapon to get the blessing saved

[autumn smelt]

Venting peril nodes and empowered psyonics

[timber cove]

i think DD has alot of potential

not that i can work it out yet cos im dumb

[willow cobalt]

You got a chart for it?

[viscid matrix]

its alright, the marking of enemies doesnt apply to trash mobs, and it will move the mark to new targets fairly often even when you dont want it to

[autumn smelt]

I don't, but as long as you pick those nodes, perilous combustion, and the elite kill cooldown node, you're good and can dedicate points where you want past that

I'm not home so I can't send anything

I would use creeping flames and the elite empowered blitz for the ability and keystone nodes respectively

[sonic gale]

Earn blessing is that?

[sonic gale]

thanks, is there a guide somewhere for crafting?

[autumn smelt]

You can sacrifice a weapon to earn the blessing, allowing you to slot it into other weapons of that archetype

[viscid matrix]

yes

[wise ruin]

So what stats should i focus on now for trinkets? didnt play since the beta so im kinda lost lol

[viscid matrix]

for psyker, if you believe you wont go down very often health curios, if you go down a lot, then 1 or 2 wound curios

[autumn smelt]

Toughness regen % and resist against the enemies you know hit you the most

I personally run 1 wound 2 health

[final scarab]

do you guys also get some juicy backend errors?

[old flame]

Is venting shriek any good

[fair kayak]

its t he best

[autumn smelt]

Being able to instantly vent 50% peril and splash everyone with DoT stacks is huge

[toxic crown]

So, been running an assail Surge setup so far, but I want to try a smite Void, any tips or tree suggestions?

[zinc phoenix]

Great in theory, crap in practice

[toxic crown]

I am lv 19 for reference

[autumn smelt]

Smite is just not really worth it imo

[zinc phoenix]

Reee is good I’m using it on Damnation with warp charges. I prefer the damage version to just kill shit I’ve been smiting

Matched with void and dueling sword

[upper galleon]

they are so jank man

hit box too big and I don't want to spend a day trying to learn all the angles n shit

[toxic crown]

so no unlimited power palpatine stuff without Surge staff?

[lofty temple]

Smite is absolutely worth it

I use it

[upper galleon]

surge is more of a single target deletion

smite is def gonna need damage back up from another source

[lofty temple]

Smite can shut down entire hordes of enemies

But it's purely a support tool

My advice? Run Smite with Warp Siphon + Inner Tranquility, alongside Venting Shriek + Flames

You stun a horde, build up your peril to 100, press F and they get wiped out

[old flame]

UNLIMITED POWAAAAAA

[burnt tapir]

On higher difs I don't think 200dmg is going to kill the hordes

Was playing some auric and normal 5s, and they're so full of elites and specials

[lofty temple]

I said Creeping Flames not Warp Rupture

[burnt tapir]

ah mb

[proper elbow]

Im sorry I doubted, Assail + Empowered Psionics is amazing

[burnt tapir]

was working and just looked over

[proper elbow]

Im sure a lot of that is hinged on assail just generally being better than a gun, and it'll probably get nerfed

[olive ember]

Shush stop talking

[marsh wharf]

whats the rolls you want on the soul blaze staff?

[proper elbow]

But I hope they also raise the base speed on BB, it just seems so slow compared to other stuff that does its job

[willow cobalt]

How do you get it to work?

[olive ember]

Lemme enjoy my funny magic knives

[proper elbow]

Take the talent that gets you free charges on elite kills and then spam it into crowds of enemies

[fresh reef]

Is it just me or are Psykers named Zapard consistently terrible?

[marsh wharf]

Yo what changes for the staff

[fresh reef]

just had one running Assail and Purgatus, who managing to get downed to trash melee 6 times

[mossy sundial]

What do my fellow Psykers think of the update overall?

[autumn smelt]

Assail honestly only needs a slight cooldown increase to still be really potent and good but not suppressive like it is now

[olive ember]

Everything on psyker is buggy or overtuned

But it’s fun while it lasts

[autumn smelt]

Anything more and it will fall off hard

[harsh urchin]

it's no good lol

the damage vents can't get enough power anymore

to reliably kill hordes

[mossy sundial]

I’ll honestly be a bit upset if their response is to nerf assail into unusable tier

[proper elbow]

I hope they fix DD soon, Im really looking forward to that passive bonus but its unsustainable rn because it will fail to proc for minutes at at ime

[marsh wharf]

opinions on what to change on this if possible?

[proper elbow]

Can Purgatus get crit with high peril?

[autumn smelt]

Both blessings are really REALLY bad, so I would change them, also unfortunate that you have crit damage which sucks ass on it

[proper elbow]

Crit chacne is good on purg just not crit damage

[marsh wharf]

what perks are good on purgatus then

[proper elbow]

The crits make the DOTs better but not functioning directly with damage

[marsh wharf]

mb I mean blessings

[proper elbow]

If purg can get it, you want the one that gives more crit chance the higher peril is

[marsh wharf]

an the other one?

[autumn smelt]

Warp flurry got nerfed and is honestly is the least beneficial across all staves on purg, but is honestly still better than any of the other blessings

[glass mortar]

Are these blessings good?

[steep frost]

There's so many 4-psyker lobbies now 😭

[ivory heath]

its cause psykers are op

[ivory heath]

but low boss dmg 😛

[analog agate]

I like being 100s of levels over all the psykers. I was a psyker before it was cool

[wanton sandal]

GRANDMA, I NEED TO SELL YOUR TELEVISION...

[steep frost]

yuuuuup, had one lobby that was 3 assails and a smite, folded at the first boss lmfao

[near wyvern]

Yeah I kinda miss cerebral lacerations, it was a bummer that they got rid of it

[wanton sandal]

was my fav part of bb

[near wyvern]

On the other hand my favourite build (fire trauma) just got all extras on top, it was good before, now it's completely busted

[autumn smelt]

Precognition allows you to 1 hit ragers with a stab to the head

[near wyvern]

BB break points are also very wonky now

Believe it or not but the absolute best BB staff is surge. It has a very high crit chance and you can proc the warp damage bonus by crits that wiff so quell cancel some LMBs, make sure you have Empower stack and BB hits like a truck

[autumn smelt]

@glass mortar both blessings also proc on dodge, so you can just be dealing huge damage with stabs against a monstrosity you're kiting, dodge distance is so large on duel swords you can easily 1v1 a chaos spawn and those blessings just end that fight quicker

[near wyvern]

Speaking of surge, if it can reach a target there is no need to BB cause that thing just picks off elites and specials like crazy

[glad meadow]

just did my first damnation as a psycher at level 20

[steep frost]

Surge is so fun

[glad meadow]

it was 27 min and it only give me enough xp for 1 level

that doesn't feel fair for how hard it is

[steep frost]

me cackling "UNLIMITED POWER" in the VC every time I use it

[glad meadow]

it then give me a gold weapon that i don't wanna use

[near wyvern]

Yeah I was sceptical when I heard they reduced the targets to two but holy shit the damage against everything and fast cast time.

[autumn smelt]

It's that hard because of how low your level is and how bad you weapons likely are due to said level

[glad meadow]

which one should i unlock first?

[queen fog]

Rampage imo

[glad meadow]

oh, the weapon is good, it just i don't enjoy the devil claw sword

[near wyvern]

Doesn't matter it's T2

[glad meadow]

does rampage unlock on all weapon?

[queen fog]

Sadly no just that weapon type

[autumn smelt]

On all devils claws

[glad meadow]

oh

i wanna get a force sword

too bad

then what the hell can i do with this thing?

[vivid saffron]

What’s the best Duelling Sword? Mk V?

[autumn smelt]

Consensus is mk4 iirc

[near wyvern]

Blessings are unlocked per blessing pools. If two weapons share the exact same blessing pool they share them when surrendering as well. Even 1 blessing difference and it means it's a different pool.

[marsh wharf]

whats the best curio setup you can have on psyker

[glad meadow]

so what can i do with this sword that i don't wanna use?

[turbid void]

did they nerf the force sword at some point? when i last played a few months ago i could chunk bosses with the special attack, now it seems to hit like a wet noodle

[vivid saffron]

Not 5 or 2?

[glad meadow]

can i salvage it for materials?

[autumn smelt]

You could earn the blessing or sell it
I'd recommend the former if you don't want the weapon

[vivid saffron]

I am seriously confused lol

[near wyvern]

I run 1 stam 2 toughness qith toughness regen on all and +toughness on couple of them.

It's a preference thing

[glad meadow]

does blessing rating matter

like all blessing are useless unless i get the best version

[near wyvern]

More is more

[autumn smelt]

4 has the most damage, and it's lights are a diagonal combo that's best for crowd clear compared to the others

[autumn smelt]

Not true

Some of my best weapons don't have the best tier blessings

[marsh wharf]

yuh huh
basically you can earn blessing and choose one of the blessings from that weapon to be used on other compatible ones
you can apply up to 2 reperks/reblesses on a weapon

[slow raven]

boss hp was doubled or something, not sure the exact amount but it was substantial

[glass mortar]

Oh great, thanks! I was looking for a weapon to use with scrier's gaze but ive never used dueling sword before

[glad meadow]

i have this thing that i really like, it really save my ass on that mission. that and the lightning staff. It feel like the lightning staff cause me to gain too much peril though

i never get blasted at 100% peril before i use that staff

[marsh wharf]

slaughterer is one of the better blessings on ogryn but not sure about psyker

[autumn smelt]

Deflector on force swords are almost all identical per tier, the difference is 3% stamina reduction via block per tier
That's a better situation, but the different between a t3 blessing and t4 is not enough to warrant throwing s weapon away over

[glad meadow]

should i upgrade my gear?

i got this at level 10~

[autumn smelt]

It's one of the best blessings in the game

Period

Even at t1 it will put in work
Very free +25% power

[marsh wharf]

aight fair wasnt sure if there were any better since psyker players play on a different wavelength

[glad meadow]

do i wanna get my luck at a new sword, or do I upgrade this one to purple?

[marsh wharf]

stats are shit imo

[ashen schooner]

i'd jsut save your mats

[marsh wharf]

wait

[autumn smelt]

Save mats

[marsh wharf]

what level are you

[glad meadow]

20~

[marsh wharf]

ah

[glad meadow]

i played for two days

[marsh wharf]

imo if you want to upgrade anything the best thing you should maybe focus on is optimizing your current curios

[glad meadow]

what is the rule for crafting? how do you know the stats are shit?

[marsh wharf]

but generally people will tell you to save until you get to level 30

[turbid void]

how y'all liking assail? seems pretty fun but i'm not sure i like it over the cc of smite

[autumn smelt]

Just use it in the meantime since that's not a bad weapon considering you're still leveling
It's one of psykers best melees with a good blessing

[marsh wharf]

yea

[autumn smelt]

Overpowered and going to be nerfed

[turbid void]

wel, guess i'll stick with smite then 😄

[marsh wharf]

what is like

[glad meadow]

oh yeah smite save me on damnation for sure

i managed to do with a team of other 30s

[marsh wharf]

the ideal situation you want to use smite? from my understanding its really good on weapon focused builds

[glad meadow]

it good for dog

everyone got a doggy, i managed to use it for a split second to get them out

[dusk sierra]

Deadass assail is going to make me a worse player because it's so brainless

[glad meadow]

it fucking suck at damage otherwise but it can keep those metal orgyn out of the way

[autumn smelt]

Venting also knocks off dogs through walls though

[near wyvern]

If you are new (fresh level 30), you should aim to get 350+ base stat weapons with T3 and T4 blessings and perks. Once you have those and your curios are good, then you start working on those 370+ bases with T3 and T4 mixes and finally after that you only can start to be picky about having 370+ all T4s.

[marsh wharf]

like im just checking what other classes do because as an ogyrn main it helps to know what lil uns are doing half the time

[dusk sierra]

Like I just throw the space daggers and then when I run out I switch to my autocannon voidstrike (which also wastes elites now, holy shit)

[glad meadow]

i am having problem dealing with ranged enemies - my staff can't reach them as they gun me down - and smite can't too

[marsh wharf]

but I love by frag bomb so much

[near wyvern]

The end game in the game has a name: Plasteel

[turbid void]

throw up a force wall and let your allies deal with them 🙂

[glad meadow]

my allies seem to die very frequently as I hide in cover

[marsh wharf]

dog my friend threw down 7 of them in one room what the fuck is that ability

[glad meadow]

lol

[near wyvern]

Lemme tell you what we are doing:

[glad meadow]

i also suck at situational awareness

[glad meadow]

sometimes a horde just spawn behind my back and i die

[autumn smelt]

Are you not close to them when you're hiding?

[glad meadow]

i don't remember that happening when i play Orgyn on release

[autumn smelt]

If so, that's why theyre dying

[glad meadow]

yeah i usually close to them

i have to vent peril

so i usually crounch down and do it

[autumn smelt]

You can dodge while venting

[glad meadow]

i don't see other do it very often, dunno why

[misty hinge]

hi im pretty new to darktide,i reached level 30 yesterday,i really need so bad a psyker build with a sword and an electrical wand

[ashen schooner]

or vent while meleeing

[marsh wharf]

Im pretty sure aura life support is like being done by the party zealot 70% of the time

So not being near a zealot is a death sentence

[autumn smelt]

Because you can dodge slide while venting for iframes and mobility

[glad meadow]

no i mean vs ranged enemies

[turbid void]

[glad meadow]

they just shoot back, don't crouch down for cover at all

and i can't seem to dodge bullet

[autumn smelt]

That is exactly what I'm talking about

[narrow crane]

does Surge work with Trauma's charge shot??

[glad meadow]

so idk why they don't crouch

[autumn smelt]

You can dodge bullets

[marsh wharf]

he said "soulblaze hit dif" and put down 7 psiokinetic bubbles

[ashen schooner]

no

[narrow crane]

lmfao Trauma is ass

[ashen schooner]

nah trauma is still good, better spot then purge right now imo

[autumn smelt]

If you're good with your dodges you can close the distance between you and gunners without taking any damage.

There is a sound cue that plays when someone is about to shoot you

[narrow crane]

Trauma just feels so cumbersome to aim

[brisk mortar]

I mean i still like my voidstaff spark eads im curious, what did you name your three subclasses?
i know left is Psykinetic, middle i think is Seer, whats the right one?

[autumn smelt]

And you can time your dodges around that sound.

[autumn smelt]

There is also a woosh sound effect when someone is about to melee you from behind

[near wyvern]

Left is original, middle is bubble, right is crit. I dunno what they are for real bit that's what I roll with.

[glad meadow]

really?

that what usually make me wipe

[autumn smelt]

Trauma was my most hated staff when I reached lvl 30
Just before the update it had become my go to staff for general play
You get used to it

[brisk mortar]

no i know that but i meant like, name's wise
like how ogryns got "Gunlugger, Skullbreaker/bralwer, Bullgryn"

[zinc phoenix]

Smite/void/damage shriek/warp charge works very well. Lots of control, best in class ranged damage and the shriek is clutch so often it’s absurd

Just did a high int damn run with it and it was a lot of fun

[narrow crane]

I think it needs a rework badly tbh, the jank on stairs/terrain is horrendous, the blast radius being so tedious is lame

[zinc phoenix]

Also took the trait for tough on quell and no slow from quell

[brisk mortar]

personally went toughness on quell, toughness of gain, and chance to auto quell cuz...whynot XD

[near wyvern]

What the hell do you mean. Trauma is one of the strongest staves.

[brisk mortar]

might grab more im still weird with psyker

[autumn smelt]

Sound cues are honestly the biggest help in getting better at the game
https://youtu.be/sSKhZaZot3w?si=IRfWchExzUSmBBxF

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah all three are great

[zinc phoenix]

It’s strong but super janky

And you need the right traits or it’s really annoying

[brisk mortar]

toughness on warp damage is tempting because everything you do (unless you don't bring a force sword n staff) is warp damage right?

[near wyvern]

The only thing janky with it is the user

[near wyvern]

Yes

[narrow crane]

it's janky as fuck on stairs lmao, how are you a trauma enjoyer and cant admit that

[zinc phoenix]

Guess you’ve never played a map with stairs then

Or any elevation change

I’ve had it trauma under stairs or into space so many times

[near wyvern]

It's easy, if you want to blast the stairs, look at the railing, if you want to blast through the stairs, look at the gaps

[zinc phoenix]

😂

Yeah really great experience when running around being chased by hordes of specials in high int damn

Sure hope you don’t look at the wrong place

[narrow crane]

"it's easy, if you want to blast the stairs LOOK AWAY FROM THE STAIRS" yeah ok dude I'll use any other fucking weapon instead

[lofty temple]

Skill issue?

[mental rock]

Skill issue.

[zinc phoenix]

Krill issue, my baleen is weak

[lofty temple]

Trauma is balanced because it filters stair aimlets

[old flame]

I’ve gone back to surge/smite living out the palpatine fantasy is just so good

[near wyvern]

Old but still

https://youtu.be/BlpanZx0svA?si=M3owgHVT4fX4EFo0

[narrow crane]

boy aint no one watching that shit

[old flame]

Im bored of the illisi though, we need more force weapons

[near wyvern]

We have Deimos

And then the Obscurus but the name is a hint

[old flame]

Which one does the highest damage again

[near wyvern]

Deimos H2

[zinc phoenix]

Even in this carefully clipped vid there’s instances of trauma blipping around at random 😂

Like come on, it’s a good stick but the jank is obvious

If they made it more reliable I’d be more happy using it but when I can just chaingun nuke my way around with void why would I bother with trauma jank?

[near wyvern]

Enjoy your 25 minutes then

https://youtu.be/SrrIuBE-cRw?si=yEr0BJlD5kuJOdeK

[lofty temple]

Because trauma has Rending Shockwave, and rending just got a huge buff this update.

[zinc phoenix]

I wish surge was good cuz I been doing it too

[zinc phoenix]

Nah fam

[turbid void]

being able to do cc and dps w/ that combo is so nice, love the changes to surge

[lofty temple]

I think I'm gonna do something really stupid

I'll take Trauma with Smite

[mental rock]

Trauma also has zero travel time and no cleave limit, unlike void

[zinc phoenix]

Your other video already showed the jank I don’t need to watch 25m of ogryn ass clapping

[zinc phoenix]

It works pretty well

So long as you avoid the stairs

[near wyvern]

Blue fire trauma is still better, the roll is just a bitch to get

[lofty temple]

I'll have zero range

[zinc phoenix]

Agree but again anytime there’s elevation change or stairs it’s ridiculously annoying to use

[old flame]

Use surge to build up warp charges/kill elites and smite on trash mobs

[autumn smelt]

@glad meadow I realized a little too late this doesn't contain hit sound cues, but at least now you know for your next game to pay attention to what you heard just before you got bonked or domed

[zinc phoenix]

That’s what I went for too, it was interesting

[old flame]

The only down side is that it leave you vulnerable to shooters

[zinc phoenix]

If it did less peril and more damage surge would be cooler

[turbid void]

force wall and hope your teammates have good aim

[near wyvern]

It ain't that stupid when you considering mutants are the only thing you can't CC with trauma and at times you wanna push the burster with a safe method rather than explode at face of hope the game registers your melee push

That is assuming you only briefly smite. People who smite 24/7 are hopefull playing sedition where it can actually kill stuff (eventually).

[autumn smelt]

If anyone has a clip or something that has the hit frmom behind sound cue in it to display what I'm saying that would be cool

[zinc phoenix]

Problem is trauma and void do the surge trick as well as surge

[zinc phoenix]

I find it’s useful to do longer smites in scenarios where shit is coming from all sides and your team needs a breather. Like the map with the running section

[near wyvern]

Surge is good the moment you realize you can stack the 5x warp damage buff in a couple of seconds by just throwing quell cancelled LMB on walls

[narrow crane]

Can you send me your current trauma build, I'm going to genuinely give it the good 'ol college try for a few days

[zinc phoenix]

Keep in mind the weapon traits matter like a lot

[near wyvern]

If you have trauma one should use that instead as it actually removes the threats as well

[narrow crane]

I have most of them

[zinc phoenix]

3x mutie is not even slowed by trauma tho

OTOH trauma cucks the crusher hordes