psyker-class

[smoky badge]

It's fire and forget. Barely interactive. People turn their brain off for it so often, they kill themselves.

[tall mango]

Yeah i prefer smite

Palpatine>Yondu

[lavish comet]

With or without Empowerd Psionics?

[smoky badge]

I use it and I just end up feeling bad. Because you know the people running through that level with you aren't having a great time.

[tall mango]

both

I love smite

[sterile saddle]

Smites gud even by itself

[magic hull]

i feast on their pain.

[tall mango]

even post bug fix i will be smites devoted follower

[lavish comet]

Thats the Difference to Smite, your presenting easy targets for your Team

[hallow needle]

god damn it it fits my outfit now i want it

[sterile saddle]

I wish it controlled ogryns better tho

[tall mango]

However after they patch it…they gotta buff it

[sterile saddle]

Doesn't seem as effective on elites

[smoky badge]

Yeah it's a really nice utility option

[tall mango]

Reduce the peril cost and actually make the left click do damage????

please???

the description says HIGH damage

and it does the exact same as right click

[hallow needle]

it does a bit more i think

[tall mango]

it does not

[hallow needle]

really?

[smoky badge]

Yeah it doesn't

[tall mango]

Yeah lmao

[hallow needle]

come on FS, give psykers some love

[tall mango]

I tested it and it does MAYBE 1-2 more per tick

when LOW damage is about the same as HIGH

[sterile saddle]

Idk ur doing dmg to entire hordes tglho

[tall mango]

You’re barely doing any damage

when you could use trauma or voidstrike

and instantly kill half a horde

or use assail and whip out half a horde and the elites

[magic hull]

skill issue

[sterile saddle]

Its meant to be a cc

[tall mango]

i’m VERY well aware

but it’s BARELY doing any damage

[magic hull]

i cant really complain anout assail at this stage tbh

[lavish comet]

left should do little to no damage with hardcore CC, it should be able to stun Mutants out of their charge immediately.
right should do massive damage with low CC, shouldnt stop Ogryns and mutants in any way

[smoky badge]

It's like bringing water to a boil lol. Which is fine considering the utility of it is an absolute monster.

[tall mango]

I disagree, other way around

Left for quick damage that can CC basic elites, right click for barely any damage but able to CC big targets

[magic hull]

they should reduce the homing range for left click.

[lavish comet]

honestly I dont care wich is what, they should be more differnt. Thats my point

[magic hull]

right click for longer range

[hallow needle]

smite does take like 90% peril to kill trash mobs with charge

[tall mango]

The truth is CC isn’t as useful as damage most of the time, there will be scenarios where CC is better but more often then not, killing is better than not killing

[hallow needle]

and thats on heresy difficulty

[tall mango]

auric damnation it takes about 30-45 seconds to kill a trash mob

i unfortunately know because i’ve has teammates who just..stare at the CCd elites

[compact cargo]

UNLIMITED, SHIELDING

[smoky badge]

Man, I only use smite with empower charges which increases its damage, does 0 peril increase and it's still really bad damage.

I can't imagine using it without

[sterile saddle]

If u build it right, you can activate a dome, engage smite and hold trash mobs long enuff for ur team to pinpoint gunners/snipers or get a revive/rescue for people who get muti-napped

[tall mango]

WITHOUT charges the damage is actually nothing

[tall mango]

i pop shield and use voidstrike, killing the entire horde and then killing the gunners, doing it faster at that

[hallow needle]

pretty stone

[tall mango]

that’s the big issue really

[compact cargo]

Why would you smite hordes?

[tall mango]

Don’t ask me

I’m killin em

[lavish comet]

yes... they think they'll steal your kill... In reality i'm stunning the enemies for them to kill^^

[compact cargo]

Smite is for when you know your team is gonna lack anti armor and you got special spam or crusher sofa moments xd

if u don't wanna pick surge

[tall mango]

Man i’m not gonna smite a crusher when i can one shot it

[smoky badge]

It's fun to eventually watch them pop like popcorn a minute or so later.

[tall mango]

i’ll smite a pack of crushers yknow

[compact cargo]

That will likely be nerfed

[tall mango]

Oh I know

[compact cargo]

Like the UNLIMITED SHIELD

[tall mango]

I hope they don’t overnerf it

[compact cargo]

It's fatshark, look at what they did to bb

[tall mango]

Make it do less damage, maybe make the stagger…not stagger monstrosity?

[magic hull]

you should smite when theres 5 of them + 3 pox and 2 hounds running at you. Considering you know auric damnation well enough.

[tall mango]

crazy thought

[sterile saddle]

BB does not feel the same

[tall mango]

Oh I do

But if it’s a single crusher imma just kill it

[hallow needle]

someone just wok up a dh with smite and it attacked me instead...

[compact cargo]

I mean Zealots super stagger is a 10-12 second stagger every 40 seconds

[sterile saddle]

Feels slower, feels less

[compact cargo]

It even stuns dh

[tall mango]

When there’s hunting grounds or mutant rush, oh man does my team love me

holding back the entire mutant rush feels so satisfying

[magic hull]

smite isnt so bad its just sittuational.

[lavish comet]

They should tune EP like:
30% peril reduction for smite
50% for the rest

and remove the no ammo cost from assail

[magic hull]

whereas fucking assail

[sullen bobcat]

The uncharged should be the primary use tbh

[compact cargo]

Everyone talking about the new ones
Almost as if BB got done dirty

[tall mango]

Primary shoukd like, actually do damage

[compact cargo]

[tall mango]

and yeah BB just fucking sucks

flat out

[compact cargo]

I love having to spent so many ability points to mimic a fraction of old bb

[lavish comet]

I tested BB, it feels like rotten Shit...

[compact cargo]

while having 300 requirements

to do so

[tall mango]

honestly

[compact cargo]

Thank god assail exists xd

[tall mango]

make BB insta kill if they’re below a certain health threshold

[hallow needle]

yes

[compact cargo]

yes

[light solar]

so like why would you use any other psyker ability over crystals?

[tall mango]

you use smite if you want insane elite CC

you use BB if you don’t know how bad it is

[compact cargo]

You don't
Well you pick smite if you expect a party

[lavish comet]

BB should insta kill everything besides monstrosities, and the charge time should be based on the hit points of the target

[magic hull]

Still use it, with my purgatus. For the wildfire perk as well it clears horde like a dream. BB is there to compensate elites.

[compact cargo]

Think we are the only class outside of vet with a flat out bad blitz

[tall mango]

smiting with randoms has been a very interesting experience

[tall mango]

I would honestly argue stun nade isn’t that good

[compact cargo]

Idk...both wildfire, soulblaze and bb damage is meh

[magic hull]

depends on the purg stick you have

[compact cargo]

It's a free res if ur not using the funny symbol, can also help vet build stagger on monstruosities since fatshark hasn't fixed it

[tall mango]

why would I BB to slowly kill AN(single elite) when I can just voidstrike or assail atm

[light solar]

its still pretty bonkers for utility a dot damage

[compact cargo]

You can proc dot with assail

[sterile saddle]

BB feels more like a boss encounter weapon

[magic hull]

Are you using purge? irrelevant. Assail on crusher is a big brain move.

[sterile saddle]

It still chunks

[tall mango]

Why would you assail crusher

[compact cargo]

6 warp charges and axe out dps bb versus boss damage

[tall mango]

use void

[magic hull]

bro, i main purge.

[compact cargo]

caxe my beloved

[magic hull]

thats the point

[sterile saddle]

What kind of axe?

[tall mango]

well I’m just telling you, void is more effective

you absolutely CAN use purge and BB and etc

[sterile saddle]

Cuz I'm missing boss dps on my siker

[tall mango]

but it’s strictly worse

[sterile saddle]

Feels bad

[magic hull]

nah, not with a good purge stick

[tall mango]

you do less damage, you kill slower, you can’t stagger very well

[magic hull]

you do stagger well

[compact cargo]

Caxe, rashad but the others ain't bad

[magic hull]

im talking from my experience

[tall mango]

purge cannot stagger elites very well last i checked

[sterile saddle]

I think u can suppress them tho

[tall mango]

and if you’re talking about BB, void can do the same stagger but faster and against multiple

[sterile saddle]

With suppression blesing

[tall mango]

ah with suppress then sure

but you can just…have suppress on void too

the point is

one option is clearly better

[magic hull]

heres the thing

[tall mango]

both work, but one is better

[magic hull]

purge goes through everyone

[tall mango]

so can void?

[magic hull]

it does really well when its a dense horde

[sterile saddle]

It boils down to playstyle

[tall mango]

That is absolutely true

[magic hull]

therefore, there is no bad.

[tall mango]

I never said bad, i’m saying that comparatively, while both work, one is better than the other

[woven ridge]

Greetings all, is the Empowered Psionics keystone broken? I never see it proc (not sure if your supposed to see it) even with empowering souls. was trying it with Assail. they always just build up peril.

[tall mango]

It is not broken

[compact cargo]

Doesn't seem broken to me

[sullen bobcat]

Well technically with smite

[tall mango]

You’re just constantly procing it due to assail being a very rapid use ability

yes yes i know

he means with assail

[tulip umbra]

Hey i've read this second hand but does the psyker talk about the human webway project?

[compact cargo]

Think it is the loner

or the dreamer

[tall mango]

probably loner, i’ve never heard it in my dream

[woven ridge]

I just never see it proc , and it says %100 peril cost reduction yet the Assail shards always seem to cause peril to go up.

I will mess around in the meatgrinder.

[spiral lion]

eh... playing with someone using assail really "no fun allowed"

[potent echo]

base damnation too easy, hiint or go home

[hallow needle]

fun fact the bubble shield buff stacks

also here have a friend

[light quail]

bro looks like one of them mofos from binding of issac

[golden frigate]

is this nurgle erotica?

[glad sandal]

when she says it's her first time

[tall mango]

let’s name him

I vote his name be Terry

[glad sandal]

let's call him Henri The Gluttonous One.

[hallow needle]

edging my peril too much made him appear

[sterile saddle]

I must be gud at riding peril.. I only blow up like once every five or six games

[glad sandal]

context please

cause you're making me extra horny rn

[hallow needle]

standard psyker things

[glad sandal]

"Come kiss me on my hot mouth. I'm feeling ROMANTICAL"

[tall mango]

https://tenor.com/view/haaugh-gif-25992068

this but it keeps backing out from exploding

[wild sable]

Edging my peril enough to hear the Hat Man

[hallow needle]

just had a veteran teamkill me and make us lose scriptures woo

appareantly his medkit is more important at lowest difficulty

[sterile saddle]

U can teamkill?

[hallow needle]

he blew up a barrel next to me on purpose

flung me right off the map

[sterile saddle]

O

Y?

[hallow needle]

i dunno but he was a real dick about it

said he doesnt give a shit about secondary objective and rather keep his medkit

literally lowest difficulty btw :D

[sterile saddle]

Sounds like a bozk

Bozo

[hallow needle]

atleast 2 scriptures were enough for contract

[ionic needle]

Why is anyone running lowest difficulty?

[hallow needle]

for scripture runs

[sterile saddle]

Leveling alts mehb?

O

[hallow needle]

you run the lowest difficuolty for scriptures and grimoires if you dont want to care about rest

[ionic needle]

Aaah

[hallow needle]

are servers dead?

[sterile saddle]

I don't think so

[hallow needle]

ah now it works again

[ionic needle]

Never even considered doing that, then again I always reroll scripture/grimoires from Melk

[hallow needle]

kept on getting dc error

for once melk is not offering me a curio

[sterile saddle]

Melk needs to give me decent qeapons

[hallow needle]

he never offers staffs on my psyker

but only staffs on my vet

[sterile saddle]

Dude charges an arm and a leg and I only use him to get blessings

[hallow needle]

which i cant even use

i havnt played my vet in too long

does he still offer weapons you cant use on classes?

[sterile saddle]

I don't think so

[hallow needle]

okay good

i still havnt leveled my ogryn

as if its screaming at me to add more crit onto it

[magic edge]

anyone got any advice for getting malleus monstronum done?

[hallow needle]

which one is that again?

[sour bison]

Have friends

[magic edge]

well thats me out

[hallow needle]

oh yeah they made it private lobbies only

you basically need 3 other people

[magic edge]

do 90% BB damage to a monstrosity

[sour bison]

Idk played with a rando psyker who just asked and everyone helped him without any problem

Ez

[magic edge]

in a private game?

[hallow needle]

well its private lobby only atleast according to current description

[sour bison]

No

W8 wat

Oh ok

[hallow needle]

they added that

[sour bison]

So

Friends then

[hallow needle]

i love how veteran is the only class who doesnt have a private lobby only penance

[magic edge]

[hallow needle]

they just assume vets dont have friends

[glad sandal]

and they assume correctly

imagine playing a fps coop shooter and not going for the magic brain popping freak, the fanatical murder machine or the big-ass ogre tank

"nah imma just play a regular old-ass humain with a rifle"

[sterile saddle]

The Ogreig

[sour bison]

Human fighter is based tho

[glad sandal]

yes human fighter is based af

[sour bison]

Vet is human fighter of 40k

[glad sandal]

but on their own psyker/zealot/ogryn can do vet's job better and in a funnier way too

[sour bison]

Vet have a grenade and i am the grenade

[glad sandal]

[sour bison]

Built different

[kind knot]

do people not like smite? i thought it was pretty cool, granted, i was using the bug not knowing it was a bug cuz i cant read effects, but still, it dont seem terrible

[glad sandal]

you got that dawg in you I see

[vapid canopy]

To complete the for the emperor penance can I run missions on any difficulty

[sour bison]

Its a feature, talent working just as intended by fs

[glad sandal]

well it's fun but no dmg and stunlocking enemies for your team is pretty boring IMO

[kind knot]

i just have fun locking down a direction

[hallow needle]

it looks cool and feels cool but its mainly cc in higher difficulty so your team can do the dmg

[neat summit]

This. I've had too many teams with brain damage where stunlocking doesn't really get me much mileage.

[kind knot]

and still getting wiped cuz i got shmacked by a poxwalker and am no longer channeling it

[hallow needle]

you get to increase the dmg all the enemies take by a whopping 10%

[native plover]

Damnit boyz, they released krieg outfit

Afraid to say they got me

[glad sandal]

yes but

[hallow needle]

the psyker outfit looks dope aswell

[glad sandal]

A S S A I L

[hallow needle]

but i already have fashion

[kind knot]

they look pretty cool, dont feel too bad

[sour bison]

Link it pls

Cant log in rn

[glad sandal]

why stunlock enemies when you can just pierce their skulls with a shiny magic meth crystal

[hallow needle]

psyker krieger

[glad sandal]

for vet only no ?

[native plover]

This the psyker one

[lavish comet]

Krieg Psyker sounds like Mega-Heresy...

[manic ether]

That new krieg outfit looks sick

[glad sandal]

welp

[manic ether]

I'm buying it tomorrow

[glad sandal]

guess who's spending 11 bucks tonight

[hallow needle]

it would fit my outfit so well

[lavish comet]

Me...

[glad sandal]

same here brother

[native plover]

Agree

[kind knot]

i havent used anything other than smite so far, how are the other spells, i saw someone else saying assail was busted

[hallow needle]

but i already have fashion

[hallow needle]

its not really busted

its basically just good horde clear

[kind knot]

you are quite dripped out, damn

[hallow needle]

grinded for that headpiece

now i want a mini of my psyker to paint

[glad sandal]

I personaly thing assail is kinda too strong but some people here will tell you that it's just good and I'm a big nooby noob + L + ratio + git gud

[tall mango]

it’s 14

[glad sandal]

guess who's spending 14 bucks then

[hallow needle]

thing is it will absolutely destroy hordes but only tickle armored boys

[tall mango]

i’m glad we all agree that jacket is drippy

[hallow needle]

yes

[glad sandal]

My name is Inigo Montoya

[hallow needle]

although that word makes me puke

[tall mango]

would you rather i say fresh?

[kind knot]

everyones allowed to have opinions, i honestly think the bugged smite is fine as it is

[tall mango]

real dapper like?

[hallow needle]

well that sounds better cuz of fresh prince of bel air :D

[glad sandal]

bruh armored specialists still die in a few secs

[hallow needle]

a real fine chap

[glad sandal]

assail is useless against armored ogryns tho or bosses

[tall mango]

a proper finely dressed schizo?

[manic ether]

how long will the krieg outfit be on sale

[tall mango]

also I want my fellow siblings opinion, which one?

[tall mango]

it’s going to be the price it is..forever likely

[hallow needle]

yeah and then you either void strike, BB or crit lightning them

[hallow needle]

left cuz looks more psyker like

right feels like zealot cosplay

[glad sandal]

exactly we need a few adjusments rn

[tall mango]

assail should not be insane vs everything

i think it’s fine

[hallow needle]

they will sadly nerf it eitherway

[tall mango]

Maybe up the peril cost and slightly reduce the damage

[hallow needle]

cuz the other classes are complaining

[spice oar]

Left because omg the right looks so stupid

[whole oxide]

i mean, if you're talking about shotgunners/gunners/ragers, everything kills them in a few seconds

[compact plinth]

question: unless i am mistaken about the empowered psionics isnt it supposed to keep the empower stacks when you use assail? it says "does not consume any charges"

[tall mango]

I like the silly looking stuff sometimes

[hallow needle]

though i bet when i look in ogryn chat all they are saying is rock or nosh

[manic ether]

here I am using a staff that uses flame (which isn't OP at all)

[glad sandal]

the fact that a psyker with assail can clear hordes, elites, specialists and such as long as they don't have armored ogryns is too strong

[hallow needle]

i love purgatus

[compact plinth]

the right one looks dumb, use it

[tall mango]

Ogryn with a single grenade can clear an entire horde and elites and etc

[glad sandal]

I mean, I played with 2 psykers + zealot + ogryn and me and my sibling were just steamrolling every single pack of mob we encountered

[glad sandal]

yeah but they need to reload eventually

[hallow needle]

a single krak grenade from a vet insta kills all armored targets on damnation

[tall mango]

Psyker can clear hordes with.. all of his staffs really

that as well

[glad sandal]

you get back your entire stock of heisenber's meth in like 10sec

[tall mango]

like

[hallow needle]

assail is basically jsut a staff replacement

[tall mango]

assail isn’t broken broken

it’s a very strong tool but falls apart vs crushers and maulers

[neat summit]

aye

[hallow needle]

yep

[whole oxide]

its just so weird to me that people say "omg its so strong it can do XYZ" while not comparing it to other things that can also do XYZ

[hallow needle]

and bulwarks can block it

[tall mango]

it’s like if BB couldn’t kill in..one hit..

ah..

yeah..

[glad sandal]

I agree, but it's a bit too strong, I mean I basically never use my staff anymore, I just camp assail and it works even in auric difficulty

[neat summit]

I take purg & bb and laugh whenever we see a crusher/mauler and Mr Assail can hardly tickle it

[hallow needle]

meanwhile ogryns now have a nuke

and a rock

[tall mango]

ogryns with a AA minigun and pocket nuke

[hallow needle]

and a rock

lets not forget that

[atomic forum]

when i see a crusher i stab it in the face with my rapier

[neat summit]

rock best. too many grenade hungry nerds out there for me to enjoy the nuke.

[kind knot]

rock is one of the most based things ive seen added to a game

[tall mango]

when i see a crusher i use my rail gun and he just disappears into a fine red mist

[hallow needle]

also the name

[compact plinth]

its not a rock

[atomic forum]

if you wanna play fully into assail, you can just use it as your primary and take your melee and ranged for dealing with specific enemies

[compact plinth]

its a brick

[hallow needle]

"big friendly rock"

[compact plinth]

you brick people

[tall mango]

ogryn sized rock

[hallow needle]

its a pebble

[compact plinth]

b r i c k

[manic ether]

I'm wondering if we will ever get a outfit with any sort of gasmask

Since we are fighting nurgle forces

[hallow needle]

you mean like we did today?

cuz today the krieg outfits came out lol

[atomic forum]

i use the rebreather headpiece with purgatus staff

[neat summit]

BB charge time is still too slow in general, even with faster charge on using your class ability.

[manic ether]

no I mean like moebians

[whole oxide]

with Assail, all they need to do is increase the Peril cost a bit, and get rid of the whole 'ammo' thing, and then if you want to spam it you can but it'll actually cost you peril

[hallow needle]

the day we get a sororita like outfit im maining zealot with the holy icon thing they added

[atomic forum]

i don't mind how the ammo works, especially considering the middle tree capstone stuff

[neat summit]

I was gonna say. The ammo thing balances it nicely imo. The peril issue comes in that it gets free casts with EP

[hallow needle]

this is timothy btw, he hangs on my hip and advises my psyker

[neat summit]

but I see psykers blow themselves up ALL the time with assail

[whole oxide]

the ammo aspect is functionally pointless, you almost never run out

[tall mango]

i have my beloved to guide me

[atomic forum]

i take shout with assail cuz like

[tall mango]

he has such wisdom

[atomic forum]

there's nothing more fun than just chucking to max peril and then shouting and still having more

[lavish comet]

Venting Shriek is their friend...

[atomic forum]

i think shout is still just easily the best combat ability

[hallow needle]

i use bubble shield

[empty onyx]

I just realized the irony in giving my assail psyker build the helmet that makes him unable to see anything. Because he doesn't have to. Heh.

[glad sandal]

I agree, up the cost and you can't sling 10 shiny rock candies at once

[atomic forum]

dog on your teammate? shout
dudes in your face? shout
peril? shout

[lavish comet]

It lets you be WAAAAY more risky with peril

[neat summit]

Shield has been the GOAT. Stun shield is great vs dogs when your team doesn't know how to dodge.

[atomic forum]

you don't need to see anything you just feel their brains, ez

[manic ether]

that made zero sense

[hallow needle]

youve got a third eye

cheater

[empty onyx]

But it's scratched out! D:

[hallow needle]

tryclops

even worse!

MUTANT

[lavish comet]

BURN IT

[glad sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/555-high-iq-555iq-iq-think-gif-19108239

[atomic forum]

i like the dome shield in some cases but mostly when i was doing something support related where i didn't need to worry about my peril

[hallow needle]

also if you run warp charges you can use your shield like 3+ times in a row

and the dome shield buff stacks

[atomic forum]

smite for cc and bubble for your team is pretty fun

but most of the time i just wanna kill

[whole oxide]

ya'll are missing out if you aren't experiencing +60% movespeed Melee-Scriers

[empty onyx]

I like that the witchshroud works really well with the beta gear, because the beta helmet wasn't really that psyker-y.

[atomic forum]

i do need to try out that ability more, it just feels so awkward to use it with warp stuff which is what i like using

[tall mango]

I really don’t like the checkerboard pattern

[empty onyx]

Squares confuse daemons.

Or so I've heard.

[glad sandal]

you know what confuses daemons ? A big fucking swipe from a forcesword in their faces

[kind knot]

heres my psyker, i dont really have to much, havent played since a month after beta and just started again yesterday

[quasi pier]

So voidstrike blasts to the face can stagger chaos spawn now apparently

[manic ether]

chainsword better

[atomic forum]

lmao really? voidstrike is kinda busted

[manic ether]

chainsword go brr

[glad sandal]

ffs

[kind knot]

i was rather pleasantly suprised by the new docket purchasable cosmetics

[glad sandal]

if assail is a bit too strong, voidstrike is straight busted

[spice oar]

goated but change those trousers girl

[quasi pier]

Yea assail feels like it just needs a cool down on the ammo regen or slower regen and its fine

[kind knot]

i like the checkers tho

[quasi pier]

Void is a bit much

[manic ether]

i'm in danger

[compact plinth]

there is a perk to specifically speed up the regen

[manic ether]

damnnation takes my soul

[lavish comet]

There are two kinds of weapons, Bad ones and the Voidstrike...

[glad sandal]

hello, zealot, mind if I pop your brain real quick ? ahah just kidding...unless

[manic ether]

my character's name is quite literally slaanesh

[lavish comet]

Assail becomes Busted af, when combined with Empowered Psionics.

[glad sandal]

Trade offer : you get to meet the God-Emperor, I get peace and quiet

[kind knot]

what would yall say the closest i can get to looking like a skittarii would be as a psyker

[empty onyx]

What if you only had one assail shard, but while you hold the button you can re-aim it. And as long as it's out flying, you slowly lose charges.

[quasi pier]

No need to completely rework it when they can just keep it from being overly spammable

With a few number changes

[spice oar]

My soulblaze psyker

[fossil lagoon]

Need a pointy wizard hat tbqh

[hallow needle]

psyker fashion is just above all others

[spice oar]

he reminds me of a star wars solo

[unreal wasp]

[mortal hedge]

What is effective against monstrosities for psyker other than bb?

[hallow needle]

voidstrike can work

[unreal wasp]

Also it's not Beta Gear, that's just the Imperial Edition outfit

[sour bison]

Dont whale on us

[unreal wasp]

All we got from beta was like a helmet and maybe a portrait or something

[spice oar]

helmet

[mortal hedge]

welp guess I'll join everyone and use voidstrike

[sour bison]

B helmet

[mortal hedge]

thanks

[sour bison]

Lol

[compact plinth]

we got a frame

[unreal wasp]

Knew we had the beta company helmet for sure but didn't remember if it was just that

[spice oar]

nah just the helmet

i prefer the auric one tho

[unreal wasp]

No wait, there's a portrait

Prefer me Indefatigable portrait though

[compact plinth]

wait no that one is for preordering iirc

[hallow needle]

i think that was just for preordering

or being there on day 1

[empty onyx]

My main (& canon) Psyker build.

[compact plinth]

mb i was wrong it is from preordering

[glad sandal]

that's a cool looking psyker

[glad sandal]

here's my psyker

[magic edge]

surge staff is broken with warp flurry

zap zap non stop

[radiant lance]

+25% Flak, right?

[wooden flare]

Ngl I don’t think that’s irony

[sterile saddle]

Pretty sure these are the same pictures.

[tall mango]

Now I need someone to be my smithers

[manic ether]

should I use Glidied Inquistiorial Rosette? +14 Max Health Perks: +10 Damage Resistance (Snipers) +6 Ordo Dockets (Mission Rewards)

[spice oar]

what if the beloved is homer j simpson

[empty onyx]

Tek' ma Te, Bra'tac!

[sterile saddle]

Yeah his character would fit too

[tall mango]

So horus is bart then

[mental rock]

I would wait till 30 to start investing in curios. Max roll for health curios is 21%

[sterile saddle]

Isn't max health roll 25?

[mental rock]

Prioritise secondary perks on base stats like health and toughness

[sterile saddle]

I've never seen one tho

[mental rock]

No you can't get 25s yet

21 is max right now

[empty onyx]

If you already have it, sure you should use it. But it doesn't seem worth buying.

[lofty temple]

smite is so good it even kills teammates

[glad sandal]

max roll is 21% + you get a 5% modifier if you mod it well

[tall mango]

they’ll add 25 when they add red rarity

[compact plinth]

if

[glad sandal]

Red are already in game I think but for dev only

[royal falcon]

Does the purgatus staff crit a lot?

[mental rock]

Yes

[glad sandal]

yes and mods make it even better + there's some crit talents in that new tree

[royal falcon]

just rolled this bad boy and thought about switching one of the blessings out for blazing spirit

[mental rock]

Crit on purge is important because Crits apply soublaze twice as fast

[glad sandal]

but why use purgatus when you can sling shiny meth crystals

[empty onyx]

Wait, Purgatus has blazing spirit?

[sterile saddle]

Honestly those perks not bad

[royal falcon]

do
do the force staves not share the same blessings

[empty onyx]

No.

[sterile saddle]

U could opt for surge If u want but suppress is slept on when ur swarmed

[mental rock]

That's a pretty good staff. I'd switch barrage for flurry and stamina for unarmored, infested, or unyielding

[royal falcon]

well shit nevermind on blazing spirit

[empty onyx]

Only Trauma and Voidstrike have Blazing, iirc.

[royal falcon]

truly

[mental rock]

I believe the swords also have blazing, or maybe it's a different soulblaze blessing

[empty onyx]

Where does the left picture even come from, btw.?

And yes, the force sword have it; I was just focusing on the staves.

[sterile saddle]

Pretty sure it was Stargate? Before the transformation?

[empty onyx]

Pretty sure Bra'tac never wore victorian english clothing.

But I don't have every episode in my head anymore.

Ah, it's Once Upon a Time. He's playing Geppetto.

[sterile saddle]

Movie called once upon a time

Googled it xD

[empty onyx]

It's a series, but yes. Thanks.

[sterile saddle]

I think he plays pinnochios maker

Or father

But yeah. Assail. Gud stuff.

[lavish comet]

No he will always be Master Bra'Tac.

[proper elbow]

Sooo, I've been playing the Illisi Blaze force sword so far because it was busted as fuck, but I'm looking at doing a Scribe's build and want a melee weapon with similar performance but isnt built around excessively building up peril with my attacks so I can stay in my F longer, what are some good choices?

[sterile saddle]

He also played Don Luiz in zorro

When he had hair

[glad sandal]

duelling sword

[royal falcon]

surely this is me dealing more damage based on my peril% right

[proper elbow]

Yes >=D

[royal falcon]

because this reads like I take more damage based on my peril

[proper elbow]

It technically doesnt even say you deal more damage. If they were being cheeky it could be a talent that makes you take more damage. They wrote an overly short tooltip and it left room for silly questions.

[glad sandal]

imagine a tree node saying "you're a lil bitch so you get hurt more easily, deal with it, there's no upside to this"

[sterile saddle]

Glass is the price u pay to be a mindlord

[proper elbow]

But the next talent is busted af

[royal falcon]

the psyker could afford to hit the gym

smh

[winged dagger]

So I am assuming lightning not generating peril sometimes is a bug?

[glad sandal]

it's a feature

[sterile saddle]

My mind is a cosmos! My vessel is glass!! WITNESS ME!

[proper elbow]

That or you're running Empowered Psionics

But probably a bug

[winged dagger]

Ah so that was what i was wondering, I am running empowered

[royal falcon]

ogryn and psyker

[glad sandal]

I think Empowered psionics is working as intended but yeah with smite you can just RMC charge for ever

[empty onyx]

The Empowered Smite shouldn't cost no peril though.

[still hearth]

It's not working as intended on Smite.

[lavish comet]

https://tenor.com/view/trollface-lol-laugh-gif-5432260

For me it is

[proper elbow]

MB I just cant read

[sterile saddle]

My mouse doesn't have that button

.> 🥁

[glad sandal]

how it feels to play psyker with assail : https://img-comment-fun.9cache.com/media/awZy8ZQ/aj1X54Wn_700w_0.jpg

[proper elbow]

Assail has been so much fun

[brave turret]

is it a issue that a pysker can use a blitz as a main weapon

[proper elbow]

And Im so sad about the inevitable nerf

But Inm gonna enjoy it while I can

[glad sandal]

I think it is

[sterile saddle]

It has considerable uptime but if ur spamming it ull eventually run out of charges

[still hearth]

It's not necessarily an issue

[glad sandal]

my sweet, sweet purgatus staff has become almost useless when I run assail

[still hearth]

But it is quite silly how good it is at almost everything

[empty onyx]

Hm. I'm kind of tempted to make a new character just to see what ||our favorite traitor sounds like|| before rank 30.

[granite rain]

It's more an issue for how it overshadows the other two

[glad sandal]

yeah

after trying it a bit more

it's not outright broken like the voidstaff

it has weaknesses

but it's too useful to pass on against any unarmored ennemy

even muties, ragers and regular flak/armored ennemies

[empty onyx]

When I first played the shards I was actually thinking that it would've fit more as a ranged weapon instead of a blitz.

[granite rain]

But arguably it should be balances around you using your whole kit.

Then again pre patch you could run a while level brain bursting or just using your staff though assail may have too much leeway in that it slaughters things even point blank which you couldnt necessarily get away as easily with staffs or definitely when bursting

[gaunt stone]

I mean you can't on higher difficulties imo

[empty onyx]

Define "higher". I was doing perfectly fine with Assail on T4.

[glad sandal]

just finished a couple of auric maelstrom maps

it is viable to camp assail and just pul your sword from time to time

[proper elbow]

What are the good Dueling Sword blessings I should be aware of?

[sterile saddle]

Crit

And slaughterer

[still hearth]

You sure can

[hearty burrow]

Try it on t5 it takes ages to kill things with it…

[tiny timber]

I cleared hi shock perfectly fine doing over 1m dmg and leading special/elite kills

[still hearth]

I've done Auric with basically Assail out 80% of the match

[willow hazel]

Uncanny works great if you are running soulblaze or asial

[still hearth]

The only time you have to swap out is vs crushers really

[empty onyx]

Queueing.

[brave turret]

The only time I don't use assail is when enemies are close to me
(Sword time)
Or for crushers which I use revovler

[glad sandal]

I think assail is in a weird position rn, not as much range as BB but still fairly good when it comes to medium range against packs of elites and hordes

[sterile saddle]

I managed to do a handful of damnation runs with assail, actually. Usually I sit around merciless

[willow hazel]

Assail is somehow great when enemies are next to me

[still hearth]

That's barely a limitation

[glad sandal]

better than any staff I would say just because of the superior range (except void)

[still hearth]

You can throw it across most sightlines

[sterile saddle]

So it does carry the better u are the more it hits I'd imagine

I'm getting better with it

[willow hazel]

Assail is by far the best anti range enemy tool in the game

[glad sandal]

I agree but you can assail 10 gunners + ragers and kill them all in a few secs while BB is a bit longer and single targeted

[primal plume]

Imagine needing to use the infinite peril exploit with smite

[still hearth]

I'm not sure what the argument here is

[glad sandal]

me neither, I read "barely an imitation" instead of limitation

[sterile saddle]

I think Boe is on ur side xD

[glad sandal]

that's why

[still hearth]

Ah lmao

[tall mango]

the argument is BB sucks

[still hearth]

Yeah BB is pretty bad rn

[lament topaz]

It was bad before?

[still hearth]

Yeah

But it was the only choice

[glad sandal]

bb + empowered psionics if fun BUT assail

[tall mango]

well yeah

[still hearth]

[proper elbow]

Brain Burst was good before

[sterile saddle]

BB was awaum b4

[still hearth]

No it wasn't

[tall mango]

siblings make do

[primal plume]

You dont use BB because you think it sucks.

I dont use BB because I've been forced to use it since Beta

We are not the same

[sterile saddle]

I could 1 tap ogryns with it

Now I cant

[old flame]

Dealing with bosses and sometimes elite is pretty hard with out brain burst

[still hearth]

You couldn't 1 tap Ogryns with BB

[tall mango]

voidstrike

[proper elbow]

Yeah BB used to be unhinged iwith the right build y'all been smokin gutter ganja

[tall mango]

does pretty solid damage

[elfin crystal]

euhhh noo?

[primal plume]

It was mid

[cyan echo]

how is BB now?

[sterile saddle]

BB can doublestrike but it doesn't seem to do it anymore

[tall mango]

not worth using tbh

[old flame]

Why not?

[proper elbow]

Mid is really good for something thats mostly not limited on use and doesnt take a weapon slot

[still hearth]

At least its not Smite.

[primal plume]

BB wasnt as useless as people like to pretend but it wasnt amazing either

[tall mango]

Smite is simply too good

[primal plume]

It did what it did

[still hearth]

BB was nice for some builds because of armor pen issues

[elfin crystal]

from experience, they die easier now

[old flame]

BB was great before

[still hearth]

But now you can use Assail for everything but armor pen

And just take armor pen weapons

[old flame]

You can 2 tap crunchers with the right build

[elfin crystal]

^

[magic hull]

how to balance, add more carapace enemy 🙂

[sterile saddle]

It'd be nice if BB cost less peril

[elfin crystal]

you can 1-2 tap most elites with the right build

[tall mango]

you can 2 tap crushers with a lot of stuff

[regal jasper]

If a psyker blows up i think a chaos spawn should spawn

[sterile saddle]

For what it does it needs to be cheaper

[regal jasper]

It would add so much to gameplay

[elfin crystal]

honestly yeah that'd be funny as shit

[still hearth]

BB should just do 5k damage

[tall mango]

daemonhost instead

[regal jasper]

Oh true that’s actually better

[proper elbow]

BB should actually reduce your peril

[sterile saddle]

That'd be cool

Scale up with dmg and dump peril on mobs

[regal jasper]

BB should crush multiple heads at once

[tall mango]

with a slight reduction vs bosses imo

[still hearth]

No

It would still be worse than meleeing

[sterile saddle]

Zealot hamma

1shotting chaos spawns

[tall mango]

Well yeah you can be complexity safe and extremely far away

It shouldn’t be strictly better than melee

[still hearth]

Well it isn't

5k per BB is still only like 1.2k DPS or something

[sterile saddle]

Peril reduction needs to work for BB cuz it does not

Unless u ulti it still costs like 30%

[tall mango]

You mean with the vent?

or EP?

[sterile saddle]

No the perks say jt reduces the cost of BB

[proper elbow]

Is scribe's fury just bad?

[sterile saddle]

But u still only get 2 MAYBE 3 before u gotta quell

EP makes it free so u can get more there

But it muties take 2 hits

:/

Easier to just dodge and power sword them

[fair kayak]

We need that +25% damage taken when you brainburst something talent

[empty onyx]

I think it favors gun psykers or melee psykers, which are probably a minority.

[tall mango]

Honestly I was wondering if that was just flat out removed

[old flame]

is this a good setup?

[sterile saddle]

I'd run anti sniper instead of grim

[glad sandal]

gun psyker

[kind knot]

i use dis and smite with the empowered psionics stuff and its fun, cant deal with anything with something resembling a healthbar, but still really fun to use

[still hearth]

Revive Speed is OP

[glad sandal]

why use a regular, weak and disgusting gun when you can just magic your way out of a situation

be proud of your abilities sibling

[sterile saddle]

Bcuz laspistol op

[old flame]

i dont normaly use a gun, im just testing it

i think the revoler works well with assail

[glad sandal]

my brother in God-Emperor, you're still considered a freak,might as well act the part

[glad sandal]

true revolver can come in a clutch when the enemy is out of range from your crystal meth

[sterile saddle]

I need a force raiper

[glad sandal]

a force what my dude ?

quickly

[old flame]

wheres yhe force great sword

[sterile saddle]

Dewling blaad

[old flame]

i need it now

[glad sandal]

where the force claymore

[kind knot]

where moonlight greatsword for psyker

[glad sandal]

I would love a force spear rofl

[sterile saddle]

Can we get a force gauntlet?

[primal plume]

So BB feels more like it depends on Empowered Psionics.

Feels like a quick sniping tool

[glad sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/power-gif-26477241

[primal plume]

it can one shot dogs on damnation

[kind knot]

hittem with the gamer glove

[brave turret]

its useful for charging mutants, a line of crushers and etc

[sterile saddle]

EP doesn't give anything to BB except free charges my dude

[lilac raft]

uhh can someone explai to me the difference between the Blitz lighning and the staff lightning? (idk names) they are too similar to me now idk what to use

[glad sandal]

for crushers I just tap the vet's shoulder and just point at the massive orgryn with the big ass hammer

[sterile saddle]

The extra time and dmg is pointless cuz it don't exceed breakpoints

So it's going to take 2 hits regardless

[still hearth]

Staff strong, blitz weak

[brave turret]

high damage and two targets for staff

[upper galleon]

Surge is high damage 2 targets

[brave turret]

blitz is for cc

[glad sandal]

blitz lightning : single target dmg is good, multiple targets dmg is weak af but stunlocks while the staff is strong af but only on 2 targets

[upper galleon]

Smite is low damage more CC

[upper galleon]

Actually the single target isnt that good either the description lies

[lilac raft]

wait the staff only hit 2??

[brave turret]

yes but its high damage

[sterile saddle]

They edited jt

[kind knot]

you can palpatine one(2) person

[sterile saddle]

More deeps less creeps

[brave turret]

rn the blitz lighting is glitched, where if you used empowered psionics

[glad sandal]

yeah but it's really good

[upper galleon]

Damage is the same whether you charge it or quick cast it

[royal falcon]

good lord deflector helped me clutch

[brave turret]

you don't gain peril

[royal falcon]

beloved blessing

[lilac raft]

what does jt mean sorry?

[royal falcon]

also gunners are BASTARDS

[brave turret]

its mean the person is bad at spelling

[upper galleon]

That is how it works

[sterile saddle]

Means 'it' I bad spell

[upper galleon]

It got updated

[glad sandal]

I have a really handy solution for your gunner problem

it's called assail

[regal jasper]

Id say personally anything with a gun that shoots is bad

[sterile saddle]

Still takes w hits to kill a mutie even with shriek buff

[regal jasper]

Thats just me tho

[royal falcon]

so about that

[sterile saddle]

2

[royal falcon]

I don't got assail

[lilac raft]

was the update today ? bc I tried yesterday and didn't noticed. I'm getting old..

[upper galleon]

Much better now you can 2 shot crushers if you double crit with cara perk I’m pretty sure

[royal falcon]

I'm running smite

[upper galleon]

You are getting old

[glad sandal]

that's heresy and you're scheduled for an exterminatus

good luck

[royal falcon]

:(

[old flame]

At the end of the day I think the BB surge staff combo is still good

[royal falcon]

then again purgatus force staff + smite + venting shriek might be a bit overkill for cc

[glad sandal]

a bit redundant no ?

[lilac raft]

at least I build crit with this staff and I think it's good, my brains still worcs c:

[old flame]

How?

[glad sandal]

well

high single target dmg on both

[still hearth]

Why are people saying Empowered doesn't work on BB

It clearly works

[sterile saddle]

I don't expect to 1 shot carapace with BB, it'd be nice, considering how slow it is that if u invest the time ur target is gunna die. But sprinting muties?

[glad sandal]

works too well

[old flame]

Oh yeah

[still hearth]

I mean it seems to be missing on the damage part

[glad sandal]

you can just bb an entire wave of elite with just one ES charge

[still hearth]

But other than that it seems to work

[glad sandal]

in a few secs

[lament topaz]

Just directored.

[sterile saddle]

We r not using the same BB

[lament topaz]

Four Crushers.

8 Maulers

[tall mango]

I can double check some stuff with BB soon

[lament topaz]

Did not end well.

[paper harbor]

i found this super rare

[tall mango]

Cause it does seem a bit..broken?

[potent echo]

i think EP bb can 1shot ragers

[still hearth]

It does not get +50% damage for some reason

[potent echo]

but not maulers

[glad sandal]

protect it at all cost

[still hearth]

But the peril gain and speed is working

[tall mango]

smite would sweep this

[potent echo]

or no?

[paper harbor]

gaurantee not gonna sell it

[robust tapir]

is it just me or the throwing spikes are way overtuned ?

[lament topaz]

The other psyker and I had shards.

[lament topaz]

They're overtuned.

[tall mango]

That’s awful i’m sorry

[glad sandal]

they're a bit too good imo

[viscid matrix]

they are only overtuned because we get so many charges all the time

[robust tapir]

pisses me off so much

[tall mango]

two shards do NOT mesh well

[potent echo]

trauma staff solve that situation well too

[sterile saddle]

Cuz my BB does jack and sheet. I stacked all the buffs, got my peril to 100, used shriek and started BB elites and it still takes 2 shots to kill reapers and muties

[lament topaz]

The other one had the flame staff.

They did good.

[still hearth]

I do 1403 on crushers with Empowered and 1099 withoutit

[tall mango]

that’s definitely not 50%

[lament topaz]

But then the two crushers stopped beating on me and the other zealot.

[tall mango]

lmao

[still hearth]

Yeah

[potent echo]

maybe weird armor profile things again lol

[glad sandal]

assail is just useless against the armored ogryns yeah

[tall mango]

It should 1648.5, possibly rounding up

[still hearth]

It is

[glad sandal]

it's like throwing rocks at a terminator

[still hearth]

Funny enough

[robust tapir]

bit is an overstatement

[still hearth]

About 30%

Which is what Smite says it has

[tall mango]

hey wait..

[lament topaz]

Understatement

[potent echo]

uncanny strike with assail hmmm

[tall mango]

you think some values got mixed up?

[lament topaz]

Wouldn't be surprised.

[still hearth]

Yeah

[sterile saddle]

I also discovered u can force push carapace with force swords

[tall mango]

That honestly is probably what happened

[sterile saddle]

Knocks em right over

[tall mango]

not to call the code sloppy but

[lament topaz]

It's dogshit.

[glad sandal]

yeah that's my go-to ability to then run away from these psychos cause my illisi won't do shit against them

[lament topaz]

We are well aware their code is bad.

[tall mango]

there is worse

[sterile saddle]

Yeah

[robust tapir]

i just hope they will do something with is since i cant even do anyting when someone is using them in a team they just clear the map

[lament topaz]

Deimos?

[sterile saddle]

Illisi

[glad sandal]

deimos is fun yeah but ilisi gets my vote

[lament topaz]

Ill is just the psyker psword.

[upper galleon]

Why use BB when void exists

[glad sandal]

no

[lament topaz]

Cause what it do when powered up? It cleave.

[sterile saddle]

I use deflector too, makes me like a shield ogryn

[upper galleon]

Except for things really far away

[glad sandal]

Illisi is the horde cleave one

[sterile saddle]

U can block snipers with it

[glad sandal]

obscurus, well we don't talk about obscurus

[potent echo]

use BB just to grab the cooldown node

[glad sandal]

and deimos is the weak point 360 no scope master

[still hearth]

Unempowered Assail in the body to flak gunner: 111
Empowered Assail in the body to flak gunner: 160

[potent echo]

got nerfed this patch btw

[glad sandal]

yeah duel swords are better now I heard

[potent echo]

doesnt 1 shot mutants or ragers now anymore

[upper galleon]

Based except cdr is middle so anyone can take it

[potent echo]

doesnt even 1 tap brusiers

[potent echo]

not the aura, the on kill one

[still hearth]

I am getting wildly different values for assail wtf

[lament topaz]

I need to get scream to cooldown faster.

[old flame]

Im still confused how empower works for assail, I never get any charges

[upper galleon]

I take it on assail so i can go into shriek ohhhb i see

[tall mango]

the math is not mathing pls obese predator fix this

[upper galleon]

It just makes your next cast not consume a charge

[glad sandal]

"obese predator" you made me spit my tea thx

[proper elbow]

It also boosts damage by 50%

[upper galleon]

You can test easily, get 3 stacks with a staff or sword

[still hearth]

It does more damage too

[proper elbow]

That said since Assail is the one with the least oomph per press its probably the worst one for empower

[tall mango]

i almost said obese dolphin but i figure predator fit better

[potent echo]

also, new WnR doesnt work with soulblaze kills

utter poopers

[proper elbow]

You'd be better off just taking warp siphon and living at 6 charges for the 24% damage all the time

[upper galleon]

Then your next 3 assails are free

[lament topaz]

Wait does warp rider do the 20% damage to me or from me to other people?

[upper galleon]

What no??

No peril cost and no ammo cost

[potent echo]

you do extra damage lol why would you take extra damage

[tall mango]

someone hasn’t played crit assail much

[upper galleon]

Is literally double damage effectively

[tall mango]

that shit SHREDS

[potent echo]

i realised my problem with assail

[upper galleon]

And it has bonus damage on top of it

[potent echo]

you need to aim the shards

[lament topaz]

It just says "up to +20%' it doesn't say from who to whom.

[tall mango]

even someone like me who hates it can see how strong it is

[potent echo]

not just throw and pray

[tall mango]

smite is my favorite by far

[sterile saddle]

Arguably, as a psyker.. you are the universe and the universe is you. Killing yourself more efficiently.

[lament topaz]

Yeah. It locks on thouhg.

[still hearth]

You get 200 more damage on flak with empowered assail

[proper elbow]

The value of one shot is small, its a weapon that functions on firing like 10 shots, getting 11 or 12 vs an extra free hastened BB is small relative value

[potent echo]

it only locks on to targets you look at

[lament topaz]

Yes.

[proper elbow]

Sell me on it y'all, tell me the build

[lament topaz]

So whip your mouse around.

[upper galleon]

Ehh just gotta know the lock on range for left click and be mindful of stuff it can bump into

[still hearth]

About 100 extra damage on left click

[potent echo]

i was just throwing them in the air and nothing much happened

[potent echo]

yea bursters lmao

[lament topaz]

Like no shit, that's the secret to shards, whip your mouse around.

[potent echo]

you have to know thats how it works first though

[upper galleon]

Uhh maybe you dont notice but assail is the best with empowered

[potent echo]

i assumed they were auto target

[upper galleon]

Warp charges doesnt matter cause you run out of ammo before the warp resistance matters

[lament topaz]

Auto target to anything in your FOV, preference to elites/specials I believe.

[potent echo]

no it actually aims at targets in your crosshair

[proper elbow]

Of course assail is the best on its own, I mean the relative value of adding Empowered Psionics to it is smaller than BB

[upper galleon]

And destiny? Destiny is a joke anyways

[potent echo]

destiny is good if you are j_sat and play true solo

[upper galleon]

Considering empowered BB damage isnt even working rn

[sterile saddle]

Destiny just needs to allow for stack decay

[still hearth]

+30% tho

[proper elbow]

Empowered Psionics offers less value to Assail than, say, carrying 6 stacks of warp siphon

[upper galleon]

What

[lament topaz]

What do I need to take to get scream to cooldown faster?

[potent echo]

what

[still hearth]

The upside for Empowered Assail is to just dump out knives into gunners

[upper galleon]

Warp siphon does nothing

[proper elbow]

Warp Siphon does 24% more damage???

[potent echo]

yea warp siphon gives like

[upper galleon]

Empowered gives you a ton of free ammo

[potent echo]

24% damage

[upper galleon]

And damage increase

[potent echo]

what does that really give you though

[proper elbow]

24% damage on every shot vs increased damage on less than a third of your shots

[lament topaz]

Especially with this since it prefers Elites and specials...

[upper galleon]

7.5 plus all elite kills

[proper elbow]

I'll give that a try and see how it plays out

[potent echo]

nah this aint it

[upper galleon]

Free ammo and increased damage

[potent echo]

empower is 50% more damage

and free ammo

and free peril

[upper galleon]

24% damage is nothibg cause the rest of warp charges is wasted

[sterile saddle]

I run true aim

Gives lots of crits

[potent echo]

warp charges only exist to be spent, keeping them for the damage buff is kinda

[upper galleon]

Peril resistance doesn’t matter

[viscid matrix]

you spend them every time you use your ability anyway

[upper galleon]

You run out of ammo long before you run out of peril

[lament topaz]

God this fuckin tree system kinda blows, half the shit I want I have to use different blitzes for.

[sterile saddle]

Warp charges go hard with shield tho

The cool down time is so short

[potent echo]

warp charges shield

[sterile saddle]

Practically free

[potent echo]

warp charges shout

[full egret]

I run out of peril before meth shards

[potent echo]

both great

[viscid matrix]

the shield is free, you just blow your warp charges when you use the ability for no gain

[upper galleon]

Empowered is way, way better just cause how it enables your clearing

[full egret]

Basically spam clicking.

[sterile saddle]

That's for dome shield

[still hearth]

Why is Scrier's so bad

[sterile saddle]

I use square shield

[full egret]

I feel like the 10% chance on kill to quell just hasn’t been working

[lament topaz]

I love not being able to use Psykenitc's aura because I took shards.

Thanks game.

[full egret]

Scriers seems meant for gun psyker

[viscid matrix]

its good as a gunker, grab a gun and start blasting

[potent echo]

scrier needs to let you keep the crit bonus after 10s

[upper galleon]

It’s not

It’s good on gunker and if you wanna go crazy, transfer peril void and sword

[potent echo]

it also needs to go onto cooldown when you have your ability up so you can actually chain it

"go crazy" 10% extra damage

[still hearth]

It doesn't even work with Warp Charges

[sterile saddle]

I can't get more than 16 charges on scriers

[full egret]

My transfer peril void hasn’t been working for me either. Did they limit it to once per ball?

[sterile saddle]

I can't keep my peril down

[potent echo]

quell with staff but like is there really a point

[viscid matrix]

psykienetic aura is meh anyway, better off taking that 10% cooldown

[potent echo]

you get like extra 1% damage that only lasts 10 seconds

[full egret]

Or delicious crit

[upper galleon]

Transfer void and transfer peril swords should help rack up damage

[potent echo]

20% only though

[still hearth]

Ok boomer

[lament topaz]

The 10% chance one?

[potent echo]

its not even crazy like 60% maybe then we can really go crazy

[upper galleon]

I at least recommend having a transfer peril sword with this in gunker

[viscid matrix]

just flat cooldown aura

[upper galleon]

So you can quell

[sterile saddle]

It would be nice if Scriers gaze counted up to 30, and within those 30 seconds you could use peril freely if be dope

[lament topaz]

Oh, seers

[potent echo]

meanwhile shout goes KB/quicken/AB all at once

[upper galleon]

Also i think scrier is meant to run with destiny

[lament topaz]

Took me a second to figure out what you were talking about.

[upper galleon]

The bonuses seem to line up

[sterile saddle]

Scrier does not work well with destiny tho

[still hearth]

Nothing works well with Destiny

[potent echo]

nothing works well with destiny

[sterile saddle]

The peril mitigation on marked targets is not good

[potent echo]

ay

[viscid matrix]

it works perfectly fine with it

[lament topaz]

Destiny bad game.

[sterile saddle]

Well I'm bad I guess

Lol

[lethal folio]

Destiny marking is very buggy.

[lament topaz]

I meant the game Destiny.

[potent echo]

dont take peril mitigation one

sometimes you want high peril when you shout or for the new warp unleashed