psyker-class

[compact cargo]

Shield toughness regen tho

[round charm]

am i correct in assuming while blitzing you dont get the passive infinite dodges from force/illisi?

[snow scaffold]

Yeah but Smite kinda makes the game too ez

[round charm]

if thats still a thing

[raw token]

yes

[round charm]

fair

what am i looking for on void?

[fast swan]

Can smite kill elites and Ogryn quickly?

Or is it just a stun tool?

[round charm]

it is by no means quick

but they will eventually die

[snow scaffold]

It kills very slowly

[raw token]

i guess ideal would be 80 everything and 60 blast radius, then for blessings warp nexus and surge

[round charm]

if you want kill speed you probably need the soulblaze combo mixed with it to get extra dots

[white oar]

Using brain burst makes me sad tbh

I wish it wasnt just a worse homing projectile blitz lol

[compact cargo]

stun

[compact cargo]

better armor damage

[white oar]

Maybe but that seems only relevant on crushers

[compact cargo]

But ye old bb was way better than someone going full bb in current

[round charm]

single target guaranteed lockon infinite range? bb is good situationally

[compact cargo]

Pretty much

[round charm]

best sniper picker in game

[fast swan]

Is revolver good with scriers gaze?

[still hearth]

Handcannon revolver says hi

[compact cargo]

We ain't talking about volver

[fast swan]

I am

[still hearth]

That's the fun part

[compact cargo]

I need something to justify using bb

[still hearth]

It works on assail

[compact cargo]

[still hearth]

And melee

Enjoy

[compact cargo]

FATSHARK WTF

[round charm]

targeted murder is bb, general horde slaughter is assail, and to whom it may concern is smite

[raw token]

i think its a bit too good at it though, i havent had an issue with snipers using assail and voidstrike which are also good at everything else

[white oar]

Worst part is I have to go full brain burst for penances

[compact cargo]

Should have done then when all we hsd is bb

[white oar]

Namely the full warp charges for 300 seconds one

[compact cargo]

[white oar]

I really should've 😔

[grizzled pawn]

care to share ur skill trees or a guide for this new update. TYIA

[snow scaffold]

Voidstrike is bad in lights out

[white oar]

But alas I was busy leveling zealot

[still hearth]

Ur bad

[mossy sundial]

i. hate. cliffhanger.

[round charm]

does bb count as weakpoint? would it stack with scriers and disrupt?

i take purgatus in lights out because its the closest thing to a flashlight we get

[compact cargo]

Voidstrike is great what

[wet tundra]

this may be a noob question but this penace says use psykinetics wrath to survive the perils but it doesnt drain any peril o.O

[still hearth]

Good luck using it with scarier

[honest frigate]

It used to be much worse at release im sure. They made all penances significantly easier

[still hearth]

Scrier*

[round charm]

definitely a more niche build, but melee scrier up the stacks then bb pop an ogey maybe for a one shot?

idk

[white oar]

Cliffhanger is still the same iirc

[still hearth]

You need the upgraded version

[white oar]

You just go on the retrieve ammo mission and push them off the bridge at the start

[honest frigate]

Ah, well. Most penances then. But its still less annoying than some other penances (ahem ahem malleus monstronum)

[honest frigate]

YES THIS

[round charm]

at least the penances arent og release day versions

[honest frigate]

Yes

[wet tundra]

upgraded version doesnt work too, tried it. unless i need all the modifers

[snow scaffold]

Yeah I would spam the crap out of purge staff in lights out. What's weird is in the train yard where you fight the sword boss, we previously lost 2 teammates to the DH before the med station. They then both spawned all the way to the beginning of the map.

[steep frost]

Anyone have a smite build?

[white oar]

From what im told malleus monstrum is ok if you can convince a shield Ogryn to tank a daemonhost

Havent tried it yet though

[snow scaffold]

I think Surge goes well with Smite

[still hearth]

Nothing goes well with Smite

[round charm]

cant you still just dodge left because daemonhosts are male models?

[honest frigate]

W h a t

[round charm]

you can just dodge to one side of a dh, i think left around it

its melee cant hit you

unless it was patched

[raw token]

even if it was patched

[round charm]

just circle and laugh as it struggles

[raw token]

you can still kite a dh easily around something round

[round charm]

yeah, but worst case scenario, remember. male models cant turn left

[white oar]

I just simply do not fight the daemonhost

[round charm]

zoolander was an informational film

[raw token]

ohhhh i get it lmao

[left crater]

would a crit build with the las pistol be any good? from my (maybe wrong) math i can get up to a 49% crit rate with the weapon

[still hearth]

It's not terrible but using ammo on Psyker rn is taboo

[round charm]

i think shredder pistol was good for crit because it shits out so many bullets youll get there eventually

[white oar]

It has always been taboo

Imagine using a gun on a magic class

yuck

[round charm]

bro, gimme a bolter and ill use it on psyer

fuck it

[steep frost]

counterpoint:revolver

[still hearth]

Imagine not having magic bullets

[left crater]

look at me and tell me that assail isnt just magic bullets

[round charm]

assail is just Yondu lite

[honest frigate]

Theyre more like magic missiles because of the slow travel time and curved trajectories

Still, theyre fun

[white oar]

Is assail the name of the magic missiles

[honest frigate]

Yes

[round charm]

yeah

[white oar]

because it seems to be the solution for everything tbh

[round charm]

smite is palpatine sith lightning, and other is bb

[white oar]

Except for Ogryn maybe

[honest frigate]

Its great against everything but carapace armor

Very cool

[round charm]

how sustained is assail?

[honest frigate]

Wdym

[round charm]

burst windowed, or perma uptime?

[white oar]

I hope they buff brain burst

give it 200% damage 😎

[honest frigate]

Almost perma ngl

It regenerates quick

[round charm]

i want a capstone for aoe bb

drop damage by 33% or whatever and make it more biggerer

[honest frigate]

I saw the recent damage stats and its bad

[white oar]

You kinda have that with the fire around the brain burst talent

[honest frigate]

They should increase base brain rupture damage by 50%

[white oar]

The soul fire on nearby enemies

[round charm]

the fire is kinda meh feeling

[honest frigate]

If it wants to compete with other blitzes

[round charm]

since enemies got the hp buff

[white oar]

can you imagine how disappointed I was when I brain bursted a heresy rager and he didnt die

not even damnation smh

[honest frigate]

So true

[round charm]

i think you only ever one shot on mal

[honest frigate]

And you can dispatch the rager eith assail quite easily

[round charm]

unless you had the max soulstack tings

[snow scaffold]

Try harder next time lol

[fossil lagoon]

I think the issue with brain burst is its reliance on 6 batt charges to hit breakpoints - the whole battery mechanic also forces you to dump all 6 charges when using ur F ability

Whereas prepatch u could just pick the talent that didnt dump ur charges

[round charm]

but yeah, assail and smite are so good for mobbing that bb should get more damage to be a specific "i kill big dudes" build

[wary inlet]

surge staff is literally a better brain burst

[white oar]

Yeah it kinda makes you not want to use the ult

[fossil lagoon]

So u could keep high dmg bb up all times

[white oar]

Which is cringe

[snow scaffold]

Which staff do you run

[white oar]

I am a big purgatus enjoyer

[round charm]

has trauma gotten any love?

[honest frigate]

I agree 100%. Besides, if anything, smite and assail should stay the same

[snow scaffold]

Yes

[white oar]

Trying to go for a brainburst soulfire build

[honest frigate]

Smite maybe with a little buff to it

But otherwise theyre very cool

[steep frost]

assail needs less uptime

[round charm]

smite maybe less targets for more damage

make it possible to still get overwhelmed

[honest frigate]

No smite's whole point is CC lol

Its bad otherwise

[snow scaffold]

Yeah make smite target only 2 enemies for more damage lol

[white oar]

Mfw 20 seconds of smite to kill 1 rager

[round charm]

it target like 30 things right now, thats a bit much

[snow dust]

smite is hilarious right now

[honest frigate]

But ragers get stunlocked by it easily. So smite is really good for keeping those enemies at bay. Hell, even mutants get stunned

[white oar]

Very true

[round charm]

rando clutched our heresy run because he just backed into a corner and smote

[white oar]

Seeing a mutant get basically permastunned by it is fun

[compact cargo]

Heresy

[round charm]

i needed scrippies 😦

[honest frigate]

I saw a vid before and apparently smite can spread to everything in a certain cone radius infront of you

[plucky flax]

Heresy is hard I play in sedition.

[white oar]

My excuse is I'm only level 20 atm

So damnation scares me

[honest frigate]

We found the chad

[round charm]

whatever the map is with the smelter stuff you can stand right inside the end zone corridor and get left right and center groups coming in

[compact cargo]

Sedation

[round charm]

its fuggin yuge

[snow dust]

He knows what he said. The South will rise again. /joke

[round charm]

and if you miss something you just kind of windshield wiper the field in front of you

[plucky flax]

[white oar]

Also, technically the wrong channel to say this, but I really hope they make zealot flame grenades look more distinct from bomber grenades / fire barrels

I simply do not know what fire I can run through

And what I cannot

[round charm]

did they up the particles? i feel like one zealot with a flamer means i cant see fuckall but orange

[snow scaffold]

I have the same problem

[white oar]

Had a game earlier where it was 3 purgatus psykers and 1 flamer / incendiary nade zealot

[round charm]

rip your eyeballs

[white oar]

It truly did feel that way lol

[honest frigate]

I can distinguish them easily. Is it really that bad?

Maybe im just better

[round charm]

best way to tell if its friendly or not is if you stand in it and you die then its not great dont do that

[white oar]

True maybe it is a skill issue on my part

But at a glance, it looks the same but the fire is slightly less tall

At least to me

[honest frigate]

That works - also if its a friendly grenade, the flames are more golden-colored and there isnt the auditory detonation noise the enemy frags have

[round charm]

i figured theyd have a bit of different color, but ive never really looked for it

[white oar]

Make zealot grenade fire blue

[round charm]

benefit of being psyker is not having to be near that shit

theres probably a mod for that

[honest frigate]

Hey dont steal out psyker colors!!!

[white oar]

How are mods for darktide

[honest frigate]

Im very possesive of it

[round charm]

no idea, I dont have any

[white oar]

Does it just work or does fatshark get real mad

[agile geode]

Deimos or Illisi if i want to go for blazing spirit?
and which blitz would you use for a soul blaze build (think Brain rupture for elites)

[round charm]

i imagine its on a mod by mod basis. things like overlays are probably fine, but there might be more gamechanging mods out there as well. I cant remember if this has any kind of anti cheat

[compact cargo]

Hp bars

[round charm]

youll want the shriek ability for the soul blaze on knockback

you basically have wildfire and creeping flames as nodes for soulblaze, and probably use a purgatus

[obtuse moth]

QoL mods are permitted and encouraged but not guaranteed

[ornate hamlet]

is it just me or are the psyker throwing knives really busted

[still hearth]

They are very strong

[raven helm]

Anyone made a build using deny destiny yet?

[snow scaffold]

They are very weak Psyker needs a buff

[round charm]

there was a dude using a gun running dd i think

[raven helm]

I mean, on heresy I’ve found the psyker knives to be extremely effective for me, when using scryer’s gaze at least

[white oar]

Buff krak grenades while you're at it

[round charm]

how do yall feel about the dome shield vs the dog blocker?

[still hearth]

Yeah it's pretty bad

[white oar]

They dont do enough boss damage imo

[agile geode]

i am planning on taking wildifre and creeping flames (so either Brain rupture or smite)
want to try out trauma with blazing spirit as i find purgatus very underwhelming (tho not gotten a good roll yet)

[still hearth]

Infinite dome, babyy

[round charm]

is that left capstone?

[raven helm]

😔 I’ve found a build using every grenade, every ability, and every keystone except for deny destiny, I wish it were better

[still hearth]

Yeah it's super bugged for dome

[raven helm]

Also I dunno when to use the elite damage aura

[round charm]

scrier deny destiny aggressive melee/voidstrike staff maybe for the weakpoint bonuses

[raven helm]

Sounds possible actually

[round charm]

i think assail bonuses too

[raven helm]

Rn I’ve only used scryer with the peril reduction so it’s easier to use knives with it

Knives being assail

[patent steeple]

scrier is best for gun psykers, sadly... I tried scrier in meat grinder and the peril gen from it actually increases over time so quelling it eventually does not help at all...

[snow scaffold]

If you quell with scrier does it deactivate it

[raven helm]

Nope

[spice veldt]

the only way to exit is to go to 100% peril as far as I can tell

can't manually go out of it otherwise

[round charm]

10% peril reduction on kill might help with the mobbing intentions

[raven helm]

Yup, that’s my experience too

[round charm]

or 10% chance or whatever

its definitely more of a bust window than a sustained build, but it should nova pretty hard

[raven helm]

What I do is I activate scryer when either a big horde comes, or a group of specials, and it turns the psyker knives from 2 shotting normal horde enemies to 1 shot

It’s mostly just a “I need to kill a lot of enemies right this moment” button

[round charm]

max scrier stacks with a full charged void headshot should do some real big boy numbers

[snow scaffold]

Psyker class is so good it's actually hard to play the other classes more. The vet class is the only one I still haven't touched lol

[round charm]

with full dd as well

vets fun. big dakka

[raven helm]

Isn’t dakka on ogryn

[patent steeple]

ogryn, you mean.

[round charm]

vet gets the auto bolter iirc

thats some pretty big dakka to me

[raven helm]

Fair enough

[white oar]

Psyker penances make me not want to play psyker tbh

[sterile steppe]

Wghat is the max level?

[round charm]

30

[patent steeple]

they are kinda broken in a bad way rn

[round charm]

it takes a lot of investment to even get the push one

or do you get baseline skills while underleveled?

[white oar]

Making brain burst charges acquirable only on elites / specials is very uncool

[low charm]

What buff is this?

[white oar]

Though I'm sure once I get the potential warp charges on soul fire kills it wont be that bad

[snow scaffold]

That's actually really bad, especially with trigger happy teammates

[patent steeple]

either crit chance blessing from staff or power increase blessing from force swords

[summer prairie]

warp nexus

[white oar]

Gamers are out here shooting my brain burst targets 😔

This wasn't always the case

[round charm]

we just need +bb damage blessings/affixes

[raven helm]

I think it's fine, mostly because if you fully upgrade the ability you can get the chance to gain them whenever you or any ally kills anything, or whenever you kill with fire

you just

kinda have to upgrade it for it to work is all

[white oar]

Yeah you're probably correct

[low charm]

I was looking for the icon, didn't think to look at my staff, thanks!

[snow scaffold]

Yeah that's why I can't play Psyker pre update for too long it got annoying

[round charm]

psyker was fine pre update

[white oar]

Psyker kinda feels like the most powerful class

[steep frost]

assail is revenge for this

[round charm]

psyker fills a role very well, but definitely not the strongest

[white oar]

Maybe new Ogryn can contest that though

[steep frost]

"Oh you wanted to melee that horde? Should have let me brainburst last patch"

[raven helm]

"strongest" is a weird term in a game where you kinda die if you're ever by yourself, you need all the pieces of the pie to have a strong team

[round charm]

thats how i feel voidstriking things people run towards

that little turn to look at me is just

[snow scaffold]

I think Psyker has one of the best solo survivability

[raven helm]

fair honestly

[snow scaffold]

A good player though

[raven helm]

especially if you grab kinetic deflection and have deflector on your sword

[round charm]

i think ogryn right now has a powerhouse of a solo build

[compact cargo]

You can solo

[snow scaffold]

Or you can quell to get toughness back, I use that a lot

[white oar]

For me its between Psyker and Ogryn for most powerful

Though there is something to be said about how well the average veteran kills specials / elites

[round charm]

the games audio queues are fantasic. almost on par with l4d. if you have good enough spatial awareness, soloing is easy, dogs and trappers included

[raven helm]

fair, although most can't on damnation from what I can tell, some definitely can though

[snow scaffold]

Orgyn can run out of ammo plus he's weak against shooters bc of his size in certain maps

[round charm]

the biggest difficulty to soloing is melee mechanical skill

dont discount the bull butcher, that thing fucks. or the shieldgryn

[snow scaffold]

Soloing isn't easy in the hardest content lol

[white oar]

Update made dodging dogs a lot easier

Which automatically makes it a good update

[snow scaffold]

I might switch out of bull butcher, I have problems with multiple crushers

[white oar]

Hopefully the next update gives us some actually unique weapons though

Or weapon customization

Imagine adding a commissar outfit without a bolt pistol

[snow scaffold]

I think it will bc it's the one anniversary soon

[patent steeple]

what perks/blessings are good on voidstrike now?

[round charm]

if the krieger set was a real leak, i hope for a 2 handed shovel

[white oar]

Krieger set seems real

[round charm]

big wide sweeping hits and powerful heavy bonks

[white oar]

Though I gotta be honest, most of it doesnt really interest me

[round charm]

the ogryn armored krieger hat got me

[white oar]

The psyker one is the only one that looks good imo

[round charm]

the rest is alright

[white oar]

Veteran krieg gasmask seems cool

[round charm]

the normal one, or the longboi?

[white oar]

But I wish the coat was bigger

[white oar]

Theres multiple?

[round charm]

theres the standard one, and there was a pic of one that was like a droopy elephant trunk

a more bottom fitted filter than a front fitted

[white oar]

Definitely not the elephant trunk

[round charm]

but its so derpy

[white oar]

Actually you know what

[round charm]

reminds me of the dog from power rangers

[white oar]

I kinda like the elephant trunk

[mossy sundial]

Does anybody know the actual name of the mission where it’s easiest to do cliffhanger?

[white oar]

Chasm Terminus?

[mossy sundial]

Thank you

[white oar]

Read the description

[round charm]

that sounds right

[mossy sundial]

Honestly with that name I could’ve guessed

Thx :3

[white oar]

It should say getting ammo / supplies

[round charm]

so whats auric? thats the only stuff i havent touched yet

like, how much extra difficulty is it

[summer prairie]

it's much harder

depending on the modifiers anyway

[white oar]

what is auric

I was under the presumption damnation maelstrom was as hard as it gets

[summer prairie]

That's auric maelstorm

[white oar]

Damnation = auric?

[obtuse moth]

depends on the modifiers too

[summer prairie]

No, it's the modifiers in general

[obtuse moth]

no, auric are special difficulty missions on heresy OR damnation difficulty

[white oar]

I see

Sounds fun

[obtuse moth]

theres a level 3 maelstrom and an auric maelstrom

anything with high intensity AND extra specialists is much more difficult

the monstrosity modifier adds a whole other level of spiciness

but infinite mutants or snipers or poxbursters are fun too

does Smite do anything to mutants? how are you supposed to use it when you're not just abusing the bug

[honest frigate]

Mutants get stunlocked after a sec of smite being inflicted on them

From my experience

[open crag]

Which of the keystones are ppl liking for assail builds best so far?

[faint sigil]

empowered one

for forever uptime

[open crag]

Right right

[midnight knoll]

I got called Palpatine for doing that :D
Gotta love the new builds

[obtuse moth]

right click or left click?

[midnight knoll]

right click

[obtuse moth]

oh so left click doesnt work on mutants? and you're supposed to channel it?

[midnight knoll]

To be honest i haven't tried left click on muties, the infinite channel is just too fun

[honest frigate]

Left click doesnt have high impact at first, and spreads slowly

Charging smite has high impact and spread right on release

[shadow flint]

Whats a good wep to run with the crystals for big monster dmg

[obtuse moth]

voidstrike?

[honest frigate]

I use illisi + shredder autopistol or voidstrike

But i usually dont run metas and do what i like so

[midnight knoll]

For my experience the voidstrike staff can now stagger monstrosities and does good damage

[shadow flint]

Yeah, iv just been struggling to help with the monstrosities

Ill grab a voidstrike, cheers fells

fellas

feck

[cyan echo]

Voidstrike always did good damage 😄

[summer prairie]

DS heavies are good monster damage if you can headshot

[austere estuary]

woop woop

also damnation auric maelstrom is hilarious, love how insane it gets

[agile geode]

quick question, are blessing betweens staff shared, or would it need to be specific? (for crafting)

[round charm]

specific

purgatus blessing only go on purg, trauma to trauma, etc

[agile geode]

thats what i thought, just wanted to make sure, thanks for the confirmation ^^

[austere estuary]

also with the new patch and the new crit autododge stuff, this finally makes more sense

[faint sigil]

I haven't tried new dueling sword, can anyone compare/contrast for me? Can I oneshot muties with it, or is that a better job for deimos?

[austere estuary]

delicious feedback loop of crits = autododges = crits

I don't think anything will beat deimos for one shotting muties

[faint sigil]

so you're using it for horde management mostly?

[austere estuary]

it's a middle ground - you are almost impervious to damage between the auto crit dodges and dodge duration + large dodge size while also able to just continuously attack and dodge

[obtuse moth]

illisi can also oneshot muties once you get some stacks

[austere estuary]

that said

duelling sword I posted will twoshot muties still

[obtuse moth]

dodge duration sounds like itd be insane on DS

[austere estuary]

provided at least one crit

yeah, and auto dodge on ranged for 1s after critting, when you also get 20% crit for dodging...

might even swap the flak damage on it for more crit

[spice veldt]

mkiv heavies deal more damage to maniac than deimos' h2

deimos h2

mk4 heavies

[summer prairie]

But no unstable power or slaughterer and rampage is hard to trigger

[spice veldt]

true

but new psyker can leave hordeclear completely absent from their ranged and melee

my mk4 is specced for single-target purely

2nd heavy also has a fast followup so killing mutants is pretty sufficient so far

[summer prairie]

Yes, but you can't one-shot a mutant reliably at least. Not that I ever thought that was important

[spice veldt]

true

[pallid elbow]

1shs 2sbs..

isn't that enough?

2sbs

[austere estuary]

yeah can't take the weapon damage alone in isolation without things like the power buffs

which are beeg

[spice veldt]

3-shot bodyshots if I have some uncanny strike stacks up

i think

lemme check

[austere estuary]

also the new version of elite slaying

is really good

that 10% per stack, 7s duration, and stacks only drop 1 by 1

seems very appropraite for deimos

[austere estuary]

in practice deimos with either slaughterer or unstable or the other one I find will very often 1-shot a mutie when weakspot stab heavy

[lofty temple]

Why are you using your melee often enough to get slaughter stacks

You're a caster

[austere estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-fish-this-is-bait-gif-11212449

[summer prairie]

You also can't keep the peril up for warp rider as easily with the DS. It's great but just looking at the base heavy dmg being higher doesn't tell the whole story

[feral verge]

@spice veldt do you happen to know if crit on purga still applies extra stack of soul blaze

[spice veldt]

haven't tested that

[summer prairie]

it does

[feral verge]

Useless

Thought you had everything tested

Very disappointed

[lofty temple]

Use the MKV Dueling Sword

[autumn smelt]

I guess you could make a crit purgatus build with the new trees if you really want to lmao

[austere estuary]

actually never even mind the heavy, deimos initial light stab with a crit can get that 1 shot even, such a fun 1st attack that stab

[potent echo]

Yes

[lofty temple]

Not as much damage, but those dodges are crazy

[autumn smelt]

I've been using the mk4 ds and it's dodges have been more than enough for me already

[potent echo]

The dodges are different?

[autumn smelt]

Coming from illisi and deimos, chaos spawns were much more easily soloable

[lofty temple]

MKV trades killing power for a guaranteed +15% dodge distance

[potent echo]

Duelling sword have rapier dodge but do the same damage as exesword from vt2

[lofty temple]

Which is huge

[spice veldt]

with +maniac, I only need 2 uncanny strike stacks to one-shot a mutant at 0% peril

[potent echo]

Yea rending now adds damage it's actually so good

[summer prairie]

MKV heavy is significantly less dmg

[spice veldt]

the mutant hp nerf also certainly helps

[austere estuary]

wait what

[lofty temple]

nerf?

[austere estuary]

😮

[spice veldt]

4000 to 3800

[autumn smelt]

Oh wait that's right
They did change rending to just be an additive boost against all enemy types up to full damage didn't they

I may need to put uncanny strike oh mine instead of riposte

[austere estuary]

welllll

that explains a bit

I had been vaguely sad about this before the patch

[summer prairie]

actually you can one-shot a mutant with a MKIV/II without that much effort

if you crit at least

[potent echo]

If you crit is a big caveat

[spice veldt]

yeah semi-reliable with shred

[austere estuary]

crit on DS can be really common

[spice veldt]

is very nice when the dice rolls in my favor

[potent echo]

But what if you don't crit

[spice veldt]

cry

(dodge)

[autumn smelt]

Stick a charged heavy into a crushers head and you'll probably instantly kill it, since you'll have 4 stacks from the tiny damage hits from the charge itself

[potent echo]

Cry while dodging

[spice veldt]

true

[austere estuary]

this is 40%, +5% base, +4% aura, and what was the other ones

5% on one of the nodes I think?

[potent echo]

Yeap

[round charm]

such a good node

that and 5% move speed

[autumn smelt]

Iirc crit chance is additive, so you'll be critting 80+% of the time in active combat due to the change in chained hits

[austere estuary]

change in chained hits?

[autumn smelt]

Chained hits don't require back to back to back, it starts a short timer

[austere estuary]

ohhhh right I got ya

yeah I noticed that in psyk, nice change

[autumn smelt]

The only 2 things that break it is letting it run out, or missing your next attack

[round charm]

😦 not the blessing I wanted

[austere estuary]

still can't miss though

shred at 15% is still nice

[round charm]

yeah, but rampage?

[austere estuary]

still can swap it out

[round charm]

isnt this a very single target weapon?

yeah, just gotta get one with the crit dodge on it

[austere estuary]

yeah, so swap it for something else

my beloved

so glad I kept that on it, had this from way before patch

nearly rolled it away at the time when it wasn't so good

[round charm]

ive got the level 1 riposte on a mkv already

[autumn smelt]

Kinda wish I didnt lock precognition since I never reliably use it due to how small of a window it is

[round charm]

can i keep changing the blessing i add to a weapon?

[austere estuary]

yep

[autumn smelt]

I only actually make use of it against mutants or bosses tbh

[austere estuary]

which one is precog again?

I forget

[summer prairie]

warp charges are actually pretty nice now that you get them on all elite/special kills

[autumn smelt]

At t4, 60% finesse damage for 2 sec after successful dodge

[austere estuary]

ahhh

yeah that is a small window huh

[round charm]

do i want flak armor damage, or something else?

[austere estuary]

honestly I'm not sure what perks I want after the patch still

[spice veldt]

precog + shards (it also procs on dodges against ranged attacks)

[autumn smelt]

So like its only really useful when you're kiting a plague ogryn or chaos spawn and are poking them in the face

[austere estuary]

yeah

[round charm]

10% melee crit damage because of the huge crit chance?

[autumn smelt]

But wouldn't you need the ds out to proc it? Still such a small window

[austere estuary]

the big window on the elite kill power+ force sword blessing now is making me think that's the way for deimos, but need to test if it works on specialists

[autumn smelt]

Crit melee damage is almost never worth it

[spice veldt]

yeah it's not as big of a benefit as it ideally would be

[round charm]

even at like 80%+ crit chance?

[autumn smelt]

It's only 10%, and it's only when you crit

[spice veldt]

but if you're running shards, i suppose it's not totally useless

[potent echo]

The whole part of crit damage is kind of weird, either the thing alr outright dies, or survives

[round charm]

or is 10% weakpoint better

[potent echo]

Bosses survive, but if you wanted boss damage you just go 25 unyielding

So crit damage is 🤷‍♂️

[round charm]

is unyielding also the ogryn?

[potent echo]

Yea

[austere estuary]

this was such a massive buff

[strong gulch]

Has the 10% weakspot damage been fixed yet, or is it still mathing bad.

[austere estuary]

so glad they changed it

[potent echo]

So the part where 10% crit damage overtakes 25% unyielding is only vs maulers or ragers and the like

[autumn smelt]

For your sword I'd do maniac since you already have flak
You'd be using it against stuff that is armored and close to you anyway since anything else you'd be killing with your staff

[spice veldt]

maffs is still not very great

[silent chasm]

does EP proc on Blitz kills

[round charm]

im using voidstrike staff and smite build, so im looking for an uh oh weapon

and the near perma dodge sounds nice

[autumn smelt]

Pretty sure it does, if you're thinking of the guaranteed charge on elite kill, it's ONLY on elites, specialists don't count

[round charm]

mkv is just chained heavies, yeah?

[potent echo]

All duelling sword is chained heavies

Maybe except mk2 lol

[silent chasm]

I just wanna palpatine entire rooms to death and make it Hurt More.

[round charm]

one of em was a weird light blender

[potent echo]

Mk2 has a sweeping heavy on H2

[austere estuary]

okay superiority is a bit weird

it'll proc on gunners, shotgunners, ragers, maulers, but not muties, flamers, etc

[potent echo]

Muties and flamers are specialist

[nocturne mural]

holy shit i have the feeling Assail outshines everything else at the moment, am I cursed by the warp?

[potent echo]

I.e. enemies with a sound cue

[austere estuary]

I thought gunners and shotgunnres were also specialist?

[potent echo]

No

There's no gunner spawn soundcue

[austere estuary]

I've been living a lie

[potent echo]

Gunner and shotgunners are elites

[austere estuary]

in that case, I can sadly confirm the superiority tooltip is accurate

[potent echo]

It's not v good

[austere estuary]

I dunno, 7s and 1-by-1 falloff

on 10-20-30% power

[potent echo]

That also assuming you are not swapping to another weapon or blitz

[austere estuary]

4.5 on slaughterer and it's all gone

[potent echo]

Slaughterer works when you want it to work, i.e. hordes

[austere estuary]

not using my deimos much for hordes tbh

[potent echo]

Yea but for deimos you at most snipe 1 elite before changing again

[austere estuary]

often pairing it with trauma

[potent echo]

You will probably use trauma or your blitz to kill most elites

[austere estuary]

with new blitz actually that's true

but probably with diff builds for me like non-warp weps

gun and ds

then maybe shards for some quick peril while doing damage

[round charm]

is shred a general crit increase, or only when using the sword?

[austere estuary]

only with the weapon

unless this patch changed that

[round charm]

god, if weapon passives were actually passives

hnng

[summer prairie]

the buff icon stays up even if you switch, might be general now

[round charm]

im wondering if i can get shred up, get riposte up, swap to voidstrike

crit bonus on that from high peril should be nasty if it all stacks

[potent echo]

Superiority also stays up, so technically you can always go out of your way everytime to kill at elite to keep the damage buff, but only for 7 seconds at a time

[potent echo]

Yea it's possible

Not sure about riposte though

[round charm]

yeah, depends if that carries over

but in theory my current build can get to a combo point to maybe chuck a 35% crit chance vs

or more depending on peril from that one blessing

[paper trail]

kinda crazy being able to one shot bulwarks and crushers on damnation straight through the front of its shield sometimes with voidstrike staff

[austere estuary]

sort of - if you get 3 stacks, that's gonna take 21 seconds to full drop

[potent echo]

Yea but 21 seconds is like.. really short

[austere estuary]

and given gunners and shotgunners, ragers are all often in packs

not hard

[potent echo]

It's shorter than a warpcharge

[austere estuary]

at damnation or maelstrom especially, you're probably gonna be easily bouncing back

and getting a good benefit from it

man, if it really does work, that'll be sick for trauma in particular, given how well it does with power

[potent echo]

Second point is does 10-30% power change the way you play

To go through so much effort

[austere estuary]

not a lot of effort to use the sword in melee and benefit when it makes sense to

like if I'm popping a few elites with it anyway

[potent echo]

What bps do you actually gain though

[austere estuary]

why not have the 10-30% power

[round charm]

quality skill

[magic hull]

i love me hordes, nexus really is a game changer tho.

[austere estuary]

it's easy to imagine breakpoints are all very binary but when we have charge times and often times reason to not assume always full charge, it's useful nearly always

[patent steeple]

is there anything I can do to salvage this into a decent voidstrike?

[potent echo]

Useful how though

[austere estuary]

as in things die faster

this is useful in a game where things need to die faster

[round charm]

change run to warp, change unarmored to something else

[patent steeple]

hmmm, unarmored into flak perhaps?

[round charm]

probably

should give better general clear

otherwise target for specific enemies

[vast oasis]

do you have surge blessing?

or transfer peril

[summer prairie]

the new WnR doesn't work with soulblaze kills

[ornate hamlet]

Slap Surge on it

[potent echo]

Yea might be a bug, I was testing it earlier

[paper trail]

Transfer peril would surely be better on that staff since its got no crit chance

[ornate hamlet]

Except

That

This dumb shit exists

[potent echo]

You can get 5 stacks from 1 shot right?

[ornate hamlet]

Yes

[summer prairie]

realistically you rarely do

[potent echo]

You just shoot into a horde?

[summer prairie]

they have to line up very well due to the new smaller radius it has

like hyper density

[paper trail]

Hordes don't seem to be my problem now that I'm bumping into groups of like 7-10 crushers at a time I prefered having the crit on it at it slaps so hard

[potent echo]

Yea just play on hiint

[vast oasis]

there's a lot of ways to up crit in tree as well

[potent echo]

Or maybe it's a height thing

[ornate hamlet]

Throw two assails

Get a crit

Or just spam and get crits

[potent echo]

Transfer peril value comes from hordes anyway

Same as surge+node

[paper trail]

I made this badboy yesterday it slaps so hard

[ornate hamlet]

I don't have the shred or slaughterer IV variant, is this an acceptable pick for this weapon in its stead?

I work on an ebb and flow for my toughness generation by producing it and quelling it. I use the perk where I can use peril to block instead of stamina.

It is an alternative way to gain peril as well as an excellent shield.

[potent echo]

Main value for Deimos is deflector and infinite dodges yea

It can't compete for duelling4 for elite/specials

Deimos even lost it's 1 tap head vs bruisers due to hp buff

Sad days

[ornate hamlet]

Wait, its shit for dmg now ytou're saying?

[potent echo]

It's H2 poke got dumpstered

Bruiser HP got buffed so L1 doesnt 1shot head anymore

Unless you get some slaughter stacks going I guess

[ornate hamlet]

I dont know this H2 L1

[potent echo]

Heavy2 is the big poke

Light1 is the fast poke

[ornate hamlet]

Why would you wanna use that on biggies if you can just charge it?

[potent echo]

Because it could 1 shot mutants pre patch 13

[round charm]

its so nice you can dodge while smiting

[potent echo]

And also 1 shot ragers

Without charging

[ornate hamlet]

ah

[potent echo]

Now duelling4 does that instead

[ornate hamlet]

problem is I CC for my team and they ditch me like "Okay you got this" and my CC lightning doesn't do much dmg

[potent echo]

Use purgatus and kill everything

No more cc

[round charm]

the only time you're in a "i got this" is with empowered

[raw token]

void***

[round charm]

void is nice mid long, but not the best short ranged option

[paper trail]

what are generally considered to be the top tier perks on curios for psyker now?

[round charm]

purg is a frontline psykers staff

[potent echo]

Which staff can kill 20 stacked up maulers faster?

[raw token]

void ofc

[round charm]

in a stack? purg. in a line? void

[potent echo]

Void can pierce 20 maulers?

[round charm]

not sure on that front

[raw token]

idk im just stanning void lmao

[round charm]

it do be going through crowds though

[summer prairie]

it only pierces one

[potent echo]

Purg wins

[round charm]

explosion is fat then

[potent echo]

[manic halo]

Scriers gaze, what the hell do I do with this

[round charm]

you go in

[raw token]

i use it as big damage and huge tankiness

[ionic sorrel]

I have a rapid fire gun that applies burn on crits, so I just run around and pretend to be a veteran.

[ornate hamlet]

I like Trauma for kneecapping groups of Ogryns.

I use, the needle/vent scream combo with trauma staff and deimos sword

[magic edge]

OK those flying daggers are OP as fuck. I love it.

[ornate hamlet]

THey're not so good against ogryns tho

[manic halo]

Any suggestions on a weapon to use with it then? I assume rev

[ornate hamlet]

or maulers

I like to use CC with it

or something heavy

So, Trauma/Void/Surg

Surg is stupid fast now

and hits hard

hits harder faster

[ionic sorrel]

I've been having a lot of fun with surge. It's very quick.

[potent echo]

I'm gonna try surge + illisi later

Probably with assail

[radiant lance]

I'm still not sure if Scrier's Gaze is even good.

[potent echo]

After trying yesterday, not it really isn't

The venting shriek can now have quicken, AB and KB all at once

I think that scrier can't compete with that

[raw token]

plus the dome is always nice to have

[silent chasm]

Does the bio-lightning count as ranged damage

[potent echo]

I had a friend do wall in mutant maelstrom, very good

Stopped the entire train

[potent echo]

I think so....?

[silent chasm]

like for perks that count "ranged damage" like making it hurt more or do yvx

[potent echo]

Probably need to test it in the meatgrinder

[radiant lance]

It might be Warp damage

[potent echo]

Warp and ranged isn't exclusive I would think

Like warpstrike from FS is considered melee and warp

[raw token]

i mean the needles count as ranged so surely lightning does

not that youd really wanna upgrade the damage on lightning anyway

[golden tartan]

Did psyker get a krieg skin?

[radiant lance]

Do you get Disrupt Destiny stacks if allies steal your kills?

[raw token]

no

[radiant lance]

Been wondering why I feel like I don't get any stacks.

Kind of annoying tbh.

Maybe Disrupt Destiny isn't that good either...

[knotty river]

it also sometimes just doesnt procc for minutes

[raw token]

i think its good if you already have a full crit build

on its own i dont think its worth

[silent chasm]

but making entire rooms go popgoodbye is so fuuuun thooo

[radiant lance]

How so?

[ornate hamlet]

It's good if your team is AFK and you get to kill everything

[raw token]

just because it lets you get so much more crit and weakspot damage all at once

[radiant lance]

Ain't that the truth

[ornate hamlet]

This worked pretty well. I was trying to do the Assail + Revolver with Handcannon meme

[raw token]

with assail + void people really cant steal your targets

[ornate hamlet]

But I ended up using revolver or duelling sword on crushers anyways

[ornate hamlet]

Implying there's not 2 other psykers with assail every game

[raw token]

lol

[radiant lance]

You mean Void Strike?

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah

[radiant lance]

Well, I want to run Revolver though

[ornate hamlet]

I reeally love, that your hand lightning won't let you go over peril

[valid ridge]

Man I really hate assail, when I'm not playing psyker.

You're tryna close the distance, kill enemies to proc your abilities and they just die en masse right in front.

[magic hull]

new outfit is rad

[tall mango]

the Assail voicelines on Beloved Psyker are so good

[summer prairie]

Seer's presence is multiplicative with combat ability reduction from curios. You end up with a 21s cooldown

AB every 21 seconds even without warp charges/quicken is pretty good

[radiant lance]

What melee weapons have ya'll been running on Psyker outside of the class-specific weapons?

[surreal egret]

Any1 tried Warp Charges with the Scriers Gaze ult?
6x warpcharges should deal more dmg all the time than having to run between marked enemies with the Disrupt Destiny?

[tall mango]

this is why i love being smite psyker, if they’re permanently stunned you have plenty of time to get kills and get your procs!

[valid ridge]

Yeah lightning psyker is based.

[tall mango]

right now i’m committing critical sin

voidstrike, assail, mass crit build

absolutely fucking shreds

[summer prairie]

I wish I had enough points to go for void, assail, venting shriek, crit, warp charges but can't quite have everything with that

[tall mango]

I just go with DD

The bonuses are pretty good

[radiant lance]

Empowered Psionics I find is actually very good on Assail if solely for the "gain 15% toughness on Blitz use" thing.

[summer prairie]

I'd go with DD if the marked enemies appeared more frequently

[radiant lance]

Yeah, DD feels bad to me.

[tall mango]

I think if they appeared like, just a smidge more i’d be happier

cause they’re not like, super rare

but they’re far and few between enough to the point you won’t have constant uptime, compared to your other keystones

[summer prairie]

kind of goofy that you get Perfect timing stacks even when you aren't hitting anything

[ornate hamlet]

YOu know what feels good though?

Having purgatus staff, having the ability to get 6 warp charges, and get the passive brainburst

with all your soulblaze talents

[azure veldt]

I am also a pyromaniac

It's hilarious.

[olive ember]

How good is kinetic flayer nowadays

[raw token]

not

[olive ember]

Thought the value of having it dropped since warp charge stack upkeep is like not a thing anymore

[raw token]

yeah

[ornate hamlet]

warp charge is still good for purgatus which is a low damg aoe that shoots really fast, making the procs garunteed which still spread your fire when hitting elites or specialists.

[raw token]

yeah but the passive bb isnt necessary

[ornate hamlet]

Because you get your soulblze with your soulblaze while you soulblaze.

Sure it is. Not having to waste time using the G key is wonderfull

If you can count to ten, you can reliably know when to use it.

Using it on trash is just as effective

[raw token]

just seems like there are other ways to upkeep the charges

[ornate hamlet]

because it insta spreads your dots.

Sure

this is the lazy way

[vast oasis]

i take it cause free nuke + extra talent point to spend

not really for warp charge

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah you also get the nice superfast and cheap bb with ability use too.

What the warp siphon does, (which is good when used with Seer's presence) is that each charge is CDR for your ultimate. In this case, your Vent Scream, which if your peril is high, you get to vent scream and apply pyro stacks based on level of peril, not warp stacks.

[ionic needle]

Doesn't kinetic flayer still have the 15s CD?

[ornate hamlet]

yes it does I think

yes

[ionic needle]

So without it providing a warp charge it's most likely just gonna be a random zombie pop every 15s if you're running purgatus

[ornate hamlet]

THe point is, you're throwing so many dots out and so much dps, that the ebb and flow is totally acceptable.

[ionic needle]

Seems pretty useless to me

[surreal egret]

Warp charges with Assail also works really good, atleast in Training.
Almost instantly 6 stacks

[olive ember]

I mean anything that can kill elites reliable will generate stacks

[surreal egret]

^Also on trash it seems

[timber cove]

My brain is blowing smoke tryna understand these talent trees (im very stupid)

[ornate hamlet]

Yes, but you're forgetting that killing an enemy with soulblaze has a 10% chance to give warp charge, I understand that this may seem irrelevant, but the way I use it is that I am proccing my F so many times, that if I really need a brain burst, I'll swap and do it. However, being that I play on Auric missions, there are many times where you're fighting Just a wave of specialists because your groups minion clear is that good.

So, I'm generating soulblaze in so many ways...

[summer prairie]

no idea how kinetic flayer is relevant to any of that

[ionic needle]

Yeah I don't get that either

[surreal egret]

But Soulblaze in it self kinda sucks? I mean the DoT

[ionic needle]

Soulblaze is really good if you have high burn and crit on your purgatus

[ornate hamlet]

Im putting crit on it.

[ionic needle]

What are you replacing run and gun with? Flurry?

[surreal egret]

^exactly my staff, minus the crit

[ornate hamlet]

i dont remember I got this last year.

before 2023

[ionic needle]

Terrifying presence might be good too

[ornate hamlet]

thats what it was.

I put run and gun on it becausee the purg has good stagg er when you do its primary fire

the short bursts

and if you're trying to run somewhere, it makes a great defensive staggering tool.

So, in this case, I favored utility over raw power.

[ionic needle]

Yeah LMB purgatus is like the only staff LMB I used pre patch haha

[ornate hamlet]

(as I have other talents Id use)

[ionic needle]

What ability are you running?

Dome?

[ornate hamlet]

Oh

Um

Vent

[lethal folio]

Run n gun also gives 10% close range damage so it isn't worthless.

[ionic needle]

Oooh that's cool, didn't know that'

[ornate hamlet]

For more soulblaze.

[ionic needle]

Ah, of course haha

It's only 6 stacks at high peril though?

[ornate hamlet]

wdym

heres the new staff

[ionic needle]

Oh noooo

Why did you reroll the damage

But yeah, those blessings look really good now

[ornate hamlet]

Cuz I like the crits.

Because crits also give me toughness.

[ionic needle]

Yes but crit damage doesn't affect that

[ornate hamlet]

Because the other was 20% unarmored dmg

[ionic needle]

Yeah true, guess that's not great on purg maybe

[ornate hamlet]

So if I have a perk that can at least benefit from my blessing,

the crit dmg,

might as well get more crit chance.

So I can heal more toughness

[ionic needle]

Yes the crit chance is a good reroll, but keeping the crit damage is what I questioned

[still hearth]

Crit damage

Enjoy doing 0.1 more damage

[ornate hamlet]

Snarky eh?

[still hearth]

That's still a billion times better

Crit damage is just really terrible

[ionic needle]

Damage on purg is a dump stat because the damage ticks are so low, what you want is high burn and cloud radius so you can apply soulblaze on more stuff

I think a critical strike applies two stacks?

So you want high crit chance from tree and perks, high burn and high cloud

I wonder if purgatus and scrier would be a cool combination?

[magic hull]

it is although i find venting shriek x creeping flames to be a powerful combo

[summer prairie]

The patch added a bunch of unused blessings, like for purg there's burned targets receive a rending debuff, elites explode on kill and more melee dmg on burning

[magic hull]

especially when you are surrounded with high perils

[ionic needle]

What's creeping flames? Can't remember all these names

[magic hull]

psykinetic wrath

[ionic needle]

If you drop kinetic flayer and the soulblaze on venting shriek you can get up to 20% damage scaling with peril

Ah okay so kinetic flayer and creeping flames

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah you didnt get both before

[sacred swift]

Is Force Sword at all viable against monstrocities?

[ionic needle]

Deimos should be good if you hit weakspots

[lethal folio]

deimos boss dps is alright.

[ornate hamlet]

I think obscurus is good.

the blaze overhand one.

But assuredly that's pure preference.

[magic hull]

this is my build, the purge blessing is helped by the gurus here >.>

[short schooner]

Pysker really went from most boring class to the most fun atm

[magic hull]

Its great, when i see horde its just where i thrive in.

[ornate hamlet]

Veterans dont run the ammo perks much anymore

my ogryn is now sad to use heavy machine gun

that has a 391 reserve.

but

[surreal egret]

Keystone Warp Siphon doesnt seem to lower CD on Scriers Gaze ulti

[ornate hamlet]

heavy attack build is fun with billy club

[ionic needle]

God damn it, also locked crit damage 😛

[short schooner]

because sinister gaze only went on cool down once the peril reached 100%

[magic hull]

yeah thats a dumb move by me. should have gone for crit chance.

[short schooner]

also you can double shield with 10% cooldown aura + warp charge

[ionic needle]

I gotta try a BB -> Crit Aura -> Scrier -> Warp Charge build with Purgatus later

[surreal egret]

U cant scriers and dome at the same time tho?

[ionic needle]

I meant scrier, not dome

So much crit stuff on the right side of the tree

[short schooner]

I wish ice shards have extra perk making it faster and more accurate

[ionic needle]

Why? Just start slinging and whatever sticks kills something

[short schooner]

I sling and watch it spiral pass mobs

[ionic needle]

Sling moar! MOAR

[short schooner]

So I want extra perk so I can spend point to make it more accurate

[magic hull]

average darktide game

[ionic needle]

3rd person mod? disgusting

[still hearth]

It's not double shield it's actually bugged and has no cooldown if you have any warp charges

Assuming you're talking about dome

[short schooner]

Ah, oh well

[still hearth]

It goes towards where your cursor is

[short schooner]

My cursor literally on their head

[agile geode]

honestly wish crit was placed in the middle, would help with soul blaze builds

[still hearth]

Skill issue I guess

[short schooner]

you right

[ionic needle]

Soulblaze builds are obviously intended to take Scrier

BB -> Crit -> Scier -> WC

God damn why do I have to work when there are so many heretics to burn

[tall mango]

scrier is kinda meh imo

it’s definitely good

[silent chasm]

Annoyed that the only way to get the Psyker blindfold bar is Annoying Achievement Bollox

[tall mango]

but just, feels meh?

[agile geode]

how/why they gain nothing for it, but lock you out of things that actual help it

[ionic needle]

Because crit, that's why

[feral juniper]

Are the shards the best payker thing I have been having a lot of fun with them

[ionic needle]

Also I haven't even tried the build yet so I have no idea if it's any good

[tall mango]

They’re definitely very strong but i wouldn’t say best in slot

[short vessel]

Hey yall, I want to try out a dope build when I get home from work, can anybody recommend me something?

[fossil lagoon]

Soulblaze still sucks

[agile geode]

seen a lot of fellow psykers use it, i still end up taking care of all elites and specials with brain Rupture

they are great against hordes and such, no doubt

[ionic needle]

The cast time on BB is so slow now though

[radiant lance]

Imo yes, best Psyker Blitz

[ionic needle]

I think shards is the best too

[agile geode]

well dont use it in melee ofcourse XD

[quasi pier]

I wouldn't not not say that though

[ionic needle]

Any time spent casting BB is time I don't spend killing other things, melee or ranged

[radiant lance]

I think Shards and BB have different roles. Shards is kind of a "main ranged" option, while BB is a tool to be used specifically on things like Hounds, Crushers, Bulwarks, etc.

If you expect BB to fulfill Assail's role then yes, it's going to feel bad.

[agile geode]

BB (techincally BR now?) is getting a lot of hate as its the old thing, but taking out threats from afar that shards cant, makes it viable, i have my staff to deal with hordes anyway.

[fossil lagoon]

With the warp charge changes it just doesnt even come close to assail

And with buffs to voidstrike to deal with carapace

[radiant lance]

Depends on what metric. It's definitely better vs Crushers & Bulwarks

[ionic needle]

BB is pretty much only better than shards at killing carapace and really long distance targets

Which you can just equip a voidstrike staff for

[agile geode]

which is what you would use it for

[radiant lance]

But what if you don't want to use VS?

[patent steeple]

what if I wanna run purg?

[paper jungle]

what voidstrike blessings do people use?

[fossil lagoon]

It's simply too slow + doesnt hit breakpoints in auric without 6 charges

[radiant lance]

I think BR still has it's place. It might need a bit of a charge speed buff though.

[fossil lagoon]

Which are harder to get since patch

[ionic needle]

Yeah the issue is the speed, not the damage

[agile geode]

i completely agree on the speed of it xD

[quasi pier]

I honestly still like assail with purg because it's so good at taking out shooters and Gunners that purg is soft to

[radiant lance]

To be fair I didn't test much BRs on it

[ionic needle]

You could still run assail with purg paired with a chainsword to take down carapace

[agile geode]

just getting a lot of unearned hate due to assail being then ew cool thing

[radiant lance]

True but then if you have a Sharpshooter you might want to take BR to take care of Carapace / Bulwark

[ionic needle]

I kind of wanted BB to still be the best because I loved it pre patch

But assail is just better

[radiant lance]

I think on a team with a good Vet Assail will feel less valuable

[fossil lagoon]

Same, love BBing something and sliding behind cover

But its just gimped atm

[patent steeple]

I run BB so I can take Wildfire and elite/special kill CDR...

[quasi pier]

Or the vet will feel less valuable

[ionic needle]

Wildfire is meh, the CDR is good though

Still doesn't feel like a good trade off

[radiant lance]

Which CDR are we talking about?

[ionic needle]

CDR on elite kill

[agile geode]

to be fair, i have very rarely met a vet that actually takes care of ranged stuff,, they play like zealots but bad xD

[ionic needle]

Mutually exclusive with assail

[radiant lance]

Gotcha

[ornate hamlet]

I have +Crit w/ Peril and doublestrike on crit.

[patent steeple]

also btw, I run Empower Psionics with purg, so I guess BR would still be better for my build considering the fact that I kinda wanna have a ranged anti-carapace option so I dont have to rush in to melee with a deimos...

[naive sedge]

I mean, BB now is better than BB before

So what?#

Only issue with it is it exists opposite assail, which is lazy as hell

[paper jungle]

thanks!

[feral juniper]

Yeah I just switched over to psyker I used to play a vet who was constantly in volley fire because of one of the talents which let you chain it with elite shooters

I just haven't been able to find a build that works for me with vet

[ionic needle]

The endless volley fire thing doesn't exist any more?

[patent steeple]

btw, how does Shred blessing work on a revved up chainsword attack?

[lavish comet]

After two days Smite - Voidstrike - Empowered(or Warp charges when EP gets patched) feel best for me.
Best with Zealot in team, who shreds the stunned enemies. basically nothing is a real problem.

Imo Smite feels better than Assail, but both are laughably good.

[sterile saddle]

You can still highlight shooters, the only downside us you gotta sorta heavily specialize into it

[fair kayak]

I assume we stacking Crit on Voidstaff now?

[sterile saddle]

Have u tried scriers with smite and ep? Or does it build peril too quickly?

[lavish comet]

Yes, but I'm using my old Staff because maximum unlucky with blessings...

[sterile saddle]

Smite looks reeeally good with warp charges

[fair kayak]

Nexus + Surge + Crit Chance + Flak Damage?

[lavish comet]

I'm the kind of Player who needs Venting Shriek to stay alive... not because of the enemies but because of my poor Peril managenet^^

[sterile saddle]

Doesn't smite auto stop if u reach 100?

[olive ember]

I'm sorry

rending debuff?

ayo?

[hot epoch]

Anyone got a screenshot of the new psyker cosmetics for me?

[lavish comet]

Yes but Voidstrike not... And now you can use it as a machine gun^^

[hot epoch]

Psykers are eating good

[sterile saddle]

The staff quells just as fast as using the shriek tbh, maybe faster cuz it goes under 50%

Esp if ur running warp charges and got the +30% quell

I use it to regen tuffness

[lavish comet]

you can vent when the death animation has already started to save you, that's the reason I take Shriek^^

[sterile saddle]

Ooo

[lavish comet]

I's my Panic button

[wide lake]

buy?

[cyan notch]

yes

if u dont have a decent one

[lavish comet]

Yes, for the Stats alone...

[meager plinth]

It lets you be much more liberal with peril use, compared to scrier builds

[honest frigate]

Good blessings and the stats are pretty much perfect

Wish i had that

[short vessel]

Anybody got a good build I can try?

[lavish comet]

Thats a "Once in 1000 hours" buy for mee^^

[wide lake]

then I have to farm Melk first . _ .) Big man use last 2k of coin on stubber

[honest frigate]

Guh

Farm him

Hard

Thats a good item

[lavish comet]

not "good" but GOD

[honest frigate]

gd*

[magic hull]

can you feel the anxiety

[sullen bobcat]

I like how assail is better horde clear than the purg staff

Fair and balanced

[cyan notch]

Working as Intended™️

[lavish comet]

Yap, The purgatus feels really weak imo

[smoky badge]

Assail is just a monster

I feel like I didn't need to come to work today when I'm a vet in a group with any assail psyker

[tall mango]

I, really don’t like assail?

[cyan echo]

it's pretty nuts

[tall mango]

I can get loads of kills and what not but it just feels weird to use

[naive sedge]

Anyone noticed taht its really difficult to fulfill Melee 1000 Scabs right now?

Think about why

[lavish comet]

I prefer Smite, but Assail much stronger.