psyker-class

[cyan notch]

yea its pretty nuts with purg spamming crits

[gray kelp]

IMO you're already better than most people if you mash mark key into hordes

[fluid knot]

If you say so pal, personally i dont take every disagreement as a slight upon myself, but there we go

[cyan notch]

i dont even remember talking to you before

[gray kelp]

btw, is brunt's armory worth using for decent base weapons or does it just give you crap 90% of the time

[cyan notch]

its decent but you might have so spend quite a bit

[gray kelp]

I havent played that much since a few months out of release

[cyan notch]

theres no other easy way to target weapons you want

other than brunts

sure u can spam missions but its still rng out of like 20 weapons

[gray kelp]

every fucking emperor's gift I've gotten in my time playing this game has been a lasgun and a taxe

[cyan notch]

yup thats the problem

gotta farm missions for ordos then use them on brunts

[unreal wasp]

Me like new Surge Staff, it now does what I wanted it to do before

Might actually run a staff now

[cyan notch]

void and surge do chunk now

[gray kelp]

It feels like a better brain burst to me tbh, fringe cases of huge sightline snipers notwithstanding

also, anyone got a preference for perks/blessings for trauma staff? enjoying it a lot now that it doesn't generate like 50% peril per charged cast

[queen fog]

warp frenzy always is a nice touch to a staff

[gray kelp]

do you mean warp flurry (cast speed on chain casts)?

[queen fog]

yea that one got a tier 3 one on my surge and purge

Real handy

Haven’t used the blessing on trauma but more aoes does sound appealing

[gray kelp]

i rolled t3 crt chance/t3 warp nexus, I suppose trauma doesnt synergize that well with crit though

[fluid knot]

More so now there are Crit based buffs

[gray kelp]

and yeah I think warp flurry is always going to be a good choice

[fluid knot]

At least, more so than it did before

[gray kelp]

I was going to run more of the right side tree so it could be sorta viable I guess

[upper galleon]

if you want crit trauma you gotta go blaze

rn trauma typically goes flurry+ rending shockwave

[gray kelp]

does the garunteed ranged crit affect trauma? from before the right keystone

[lethal lagoon]

Things die too fast for blaze to make sense, maybe when the next diff comes out.

[upper galleon]

yes but trauma isn't typically weakspotting

[fluid knot]

Its free spread damage

[upper galleon]

nah it's the same as going wildfire and new Wrack and ruin

free spread damage

[gray kelp]

i rotate between assails/trauma

[fluid knot]

It doesnt have to be loads, its free

[upper galleon]

and the stagger radius lights on soulblaze so

[gray kelp]

but I suppose it'd overlap too much with regards to juggling the crit proc

[upper galleon]

not just the damage radius

[magic hull]

mate i hope they dont neef assail but at the same time buff the other two.

[lethal lagoon]

A blessing plus stat points aint free lmao

[gray kelp]

ill keep this in mind thanks

[fluid knot]

Smite certainly needs a damage increase

[upper galleon]

i mean, if you are going warp charge

soulblaze is more than viable

[lethal lagoon]

They are 100% going to nerf assail, you do more dps than a vet with just assial focus

[upper galleon]

Rending flurry might be better but blaze nexus is still good

[lethal lagoon]

I just hope they incease the cooldown and don't touch the ability

[magic hull]

maybe just nerf assail range when left click.

[fluid knot]

I would say give it more peril generation

Keep it powerful, but raise the cost

[spice veldt]

would still be good for annihilating specials up close

[magic hull]

i prefer it that way

[lethal lagoon]

More peril gen is more toughness though, still not a real nerf.

[upper galleon]

honestly I want them to ditch the ammo system

[lethal lagoon]

Just give it more cooldown and then leave it alone

[upper galleon]

nerf the rate of fire and increase peril cost

[spice veldt]

i'd add more skill to it

[upper galleon]

just fuck off with 2 limiting systems

[fluid knot]

Well it is, because numerous enemies can wipe your toughness in one shot

[gray kelp]

I think assails being able to be chained infinitely is a bit too strong with empowered keystone. I dont think assail in itself is broken strong

[magic hull]

assail actually works best when you dont spam tho

[spice veldt]

make the aim assist less lenient, make the RMB faster but remove the autoaim from it (keep the peril cost), and some other nerfs

[spice veldt]

if you're being efficient, but spamming it works very well

[upper galleon]

idk me out clearing purge staff

has me spamming

for empowered procs

use vent if i need to

[mystic roost]

Love assail

[spice veldt]

for most engagements, you will basically never run out of charges

[magic hull]

you mean overkill

[upper galleon]

it's not overkill

until the horde stops coming

[spice veldt]

the amount of charges and regen you have permit that sort of gameplay

[magic hull]

because you wasted a potential shard

[upper galleon]

"wasted"

i have 10+ empowered procs

[spice veldt]

i mean sure, but you rarely ever run out of sharsd especially with EP

[upper galleon]

plus faster ammo regen on the attached talents

[lethal lagoon]

If psyker could only use assail and melee, he'd still be the best class atm lmao.

[magic hull]

generally i find it more effecient if i lower my rate of fire.

[echo cosmos]

EP is broken (glitched)

The buff that gives a stack of EP on elite/special kill literally doesn't work

[lethal lagoon]

Nah, no need to lower unless there are no elite spawns

[magic hull]

give me time to switch target too

[spice veldt]

not to that degree, but yeah it's pretty good

[spice veldt]

are you testing it on elites or specials?

it works on elites but not specials

[echo cosmos]

The thing literally says elite/special

Also I have stabbed both elites and specials in game with no free zappy

[gaunt stone]

is it even possible to proc rampage on the dueling sword

I have tried so hard and it won't nvm I realized only block can proc it

[fluid knot]

Thats because its under the wrong header an is effecting Smite, oh wait myb, thats the 0 peril generation aspect

[upper galleon]

no you still have armor and pick off issues

[echo cosmos]

I could have swore it was elites and specials

[upper galleon]

especially cause you need 2-3 needles thrown for bombers

[echo cosmos]

When was it changed?

[spice veldt]

if there was no update, then it wasn't changed

[round charm]

so do you get either bb, palpatine, or needler? or do you still keep a lower level bb

[lethal lagoon]

Either

[fluid knot]

Spammability seems to have been the design philosophy in Assail, an it made it through the playtesters, so we'll see what changes, if anything

[spice veldt]

yeah the fast fire rate encourages it

though they should've made it a trap

[lethal lagoon]

Who are these playtesters that thought assail was okay lmao?

[spice veldt]

by making the regen slower

[fluid knot]

I still reckon give it 20% peril generation per shard, its still spammable, but not so over the top an still requires good management

[spice veldt]

i'd make it peril-cheap so that it doesn't interfere with normal staff usage

so that it's basically just a cheap reactive tool

you swap back and forth and there e go

[magic hull]

just reduce range when left click

increase range for right click aim

[spice veldt]

since one of the advantages it has is the fact that you can shoot it and immediately swap back to your other weapon

[echo cosmos]

I prefer smite over assail tbh

[fluid knot]

In an ideal world people would use it as such, but if its as spammable as that, people are only gonna use Assail an not the staff unless they need to kill Ogryns or Maulers

[spice veldt]

yeah, which is why I propose we nerf the charge regen

and also the maximum amount of charges you get

and/or making its upgradeable nodes lock each other out

[olive ember]

nah I think nerf the charges is enough

idk if you need to nerf both

[spice veldt]

10 charges is a lot to burst through

[lethal lagoon]

A cooldown nerf is the only way assail stays usable without being OP. Any other nerf and might as well grab the other two.

Damage nerf would ruin it

[olive ember]

yeye so make it like 5 but idk if we would need a charge speed nerf

[spice veldt]

we ran into this problem with the bolter, where the slow reload didn't matter if you just killed everything in a single mag

[fluid knot]

With ten charges a damage nerf wouldnt ruin it

[spice veldt]

and unlike the bolter, Assail still reloads while you use it

[fluid knot]

but it'd be sad to see

[magic hull]

nah fuck no

[echo cosmos]

Also: make the assail buffs mutually exclusive, so you have to choose between better shards or more shards

[spice veldt]

the damage can stay if they nerf the other aspects

it depends on what vision they have for it

but some of its attributes has to go

[magic hull]

id like to dominate with assail 😎

[olive ember]

eh I kinda like how the knives feel rn in terms of damage so i'd rather they not touch the damage/pierce

[magic hull]

fr

[olive ember]

but yeah ammo regen or ammo capacity nerf I think would be fine

[echo cosmos]

I think regen and capacity

[lethal lagoon]

I would just straight up stop using it if they touched the damage, it's perfect atm. The fact that I can use it the whole game is the problem.

[fluid knot]

I like that it offers a blitz style gameplay loop personally, so i wouldnt wanna see it be gutted, but that being said, i dont think its as brokenly overpowered as some do anyway

[olive ember]

you also have to realize that assail is competing with BB so if you nerf the damage too much there would be no reason to not just use BB

[lament sparrow]

is there any reason to use assail over lightning?

[olive ember]

assail actually kills stuff

[magic hull]

BB needs a buff assail dont need damage nerf

[olive ember]

lightning CC is also super bugged

[fluid knot]

Depends what you want, Smite makes missions a joke because nothing can move, Assail actually kills stuff

[olive ember]

idk how much more they can buff BB ngl

they already made it like a 2 shot mauler

[upper galleon]

honestly

0.5 second less charge time

baseline

and that will be it

[olive ember]

maybe

[lament sparrow]

ive found the CC from smite to be insane also emperor palpatine fantasy

[olive ember]

I mean thats just a complete bug too tbh

[lethal lagoon]

Do you mean crusher? I think you could 1 shot mauler pre patch with enough buffs.

[magic hull]

make it progressively faster and cost less peril the more you BB in a period of time 😎

[olive ember]

because no way smite supposed to be zero peril gain

[echo cosmos]

Smite is funny

Especially when you are electricuting a mutie

[fluid knot]

Im not using the infinite loop

[olive ember]

oh

[spice veldt]

nerfing its EP effect would also help

[fluid knot]

Its still ridiculous

[lament sparrow]

thats an occasional bug

[olive ember]

thats uhhh less than occasional ngl

[lament sparrow]

i feel like assail should be armor piercing

[round charm]

do you have the empowered smite?

[olive ember]

isn't it any time you have empowered psionics

[round charm]

empowered is -100% cost

[lament sparrow]

whats that

[fluid knot]

No, i run it with Warp Charges and combo it with the Soulblaze talents so stuff dies as well as being CC'd

[olive ember]

the entire point of assail is supposed to be medium elite clear, the heavy elite clear skill is BB

[round charm]

ap?

[olive ember]

Armor pen*

[magic hull]

ass penetration

[lament sparrow]

true

i do wish assail was full auto and faster tho, even if they do less damage, it would look way cooler

[olive ember]

i mean people say surge can kill stuff but honestly I still think surge staff needs double damage

like 4 charges with crits, 90% peril to kill a single mutie aint it ngl

[lethal lagoon]

Surge supa fast though?

[olive ember]

it is but

[lament sparrow]

no need for surge staff now that you can shoot lightning like the emperor

[olive ember]

a voidstrike can like 2 shot it psure

[echo cosmos]

I am probably going to make a BR build with its high recharge

[lament sparrow]

we do need more staffs imo tho

[olive ember]

surge staff got reworked into single target damage

just that the damage is kinda mid imo

[lament sparrow]

oop

[fluid knot]

Thats not something you should be comparing other staves to at this point in all honesty, Void needs to be dialed back a notch

[olive ember]

3 charges for a mauler, 4 for crusher or mutie

[fluid knot]

Surge is in a good place atm

[olive ember]

Void does, but even then its eh

[echo cosmos]

Staffs need new primary fires, similar to how its done for Sienna

[white sigil]

i have found myself being a support payker and just using my lightning chain to Incapacitate enemies and elits rather than go for kills since FS wont add a damn scoreboard its not worth being a murder hobo

[olive ember]

like purge can kill everything short of ogryns and mutants same with trauma

[lethal lagoon]

It's so fast though, I don't think you realize how fast surge is until you direct compare.

[olive ember]

so the ability to kill a singular heavy enemy by using 3-4 charges and maxing out on peril is like

super mid imo

double the damage and I'd be happy

[lethal lagoon]

Surge has the highest single target damage, no question.

[olive ember]

well

[lethal lagoon]

DPS*

[olive ember]

I think they should just swap voidstrike and surge staff damage

[fluid knot]

No.. Voidstrike does

An its not even close

[lament sparrow]

assail generates crazy amount of peril

[olive ember]

like why is a voidstrike able to one shot a crusher with crit (and surge blessing) but a surge staff takes 4

[fluid knot]

Voidstrike is a fucking railgun now

[echo cosmos]

Example: Trauma with a shotgun primary fire

[lethal lagoon]

Test it side by side on a crusher, time it. Ima do it right now, brb.

[olive ember]

and yes ik voidstrike is overtuned but even then

its like surge should be 2 shotting crusher if it only deals damage to one target at a time

[upper galleon]

i heard it was unintended

[olive ember]

1 shot maulers, 2 shot crushers imo

[upper galleon]

like fatshark accidently overbuffed it

[lament sparrow]

i want a force spear so bad

[olive ember]

it almost certainly is but

[fluid knot]

That would make a lot of sense

[upper galleon]

i want like

staff crafting

or spell crafting

[fluid knot]

Is this Oblivion now?

[olive ember]

even if you ignored voidstrike, someone confirm actually, but last I checked a purge could kill a mauler in one full charge, and since it got infinite cleave it means it can delete entire packs of maulers in one full charge

similarily doesn't a trauma take like 5 ish hits to kill a crusher, but also have infinite cleave AOE

so why does the single target staff take 4 charges to kill a crusher

[upper galleon]

cause 40k magic is so much more varied, and it would compensate psyker not getting weapon attachment customization (if that comes as well)

[lofty temple]

It's a 1 second charge

[unreal wasp]

Emprah damn, I'm now in a position where I can't justify using a gun over surge personally

[fluid knot]

That is actually quite a good point tbh

[olive ember]

its also only 20m and single target

[upper galleon]

like, ok, staff that is a hybrid of trauma and surge, where it's a fucking lightning strike

[lofty temple]

25m

[olive ember]

meh plus minus 5 meters

I can kill a crusher in 5 seconds with a recon las on vet

its like

[lament sparrow]

is there any reason to use the wall shield vs the dome shield?

[olive ember]

wall shield can stun specials and you can carry 2

dome shield regens toughness and has innately more health and lasts 5 sec longer

[upper galleon]

or surge+soulblaze= blazing chains, idk go ham but that is gonna be years in the future

[echo cosmos]

Wall shield is stupid good imo

[lethal lagoon]

Ayo, wtf, were they on crack when they buffed voidstrike, how'd that go through? that said, 2 void strike charges are roughly the same time as 3-4 surge strikes, so not that big of a diff.

[echo cosmos]

Void+trauma

Launch small nuclear weapons at high peril cost

[fluid knot]

Thats literally twice as good

Like LITERALLY twice as good

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah... but it takes twice as long

That was my point

[fluid knot]

Not really...

[lethal lagoon]

So they are roughly equal not counting voidstrike's pen

[olive ember]

i'm not using warp flurry so idk if voidstrike with flurry would be better

[lethal lagoon]

yeah, about 5-6 seconds to kill a crusher on both staves

[fluid knot]

The charge difference isnt that big

[lethal lagoon]

It really is

[fluid knot]

Its a bit longer on Void, but not that much

[lethal lagoon]

Try them both side by side with warp flurry

[olive ember]

but yeah i think surge should have voidstrikes current damage honestly speaking

[fluid knot]

Swapping the damage profiles wouldnt be a bad choice

[olive ember]

if you look at the shit ogryns and vets can do with optimized builds

surge is kinda myeh

[fluid knot]

Void can cleave, Surge cannot

[olive ember]

I won't say too much cuz void is overtuned

[fluid knot]

It wouldnt render Void usless by any means, it'd still be wayyy better than it was

[olive ember]

but if you just think of like the purge staff, unless they nerfed it, one full charge of purge staff can kill a mauler, and since its infinite cleave that means entire packs of maulers can die

[lethal lagoon]

Either they picked reddit users as playtesters or the devs ignored playtesters, there's no universe where voidstrike got through otherwise.

[fluid knot]

Yeah thats not how that works.. at the end of the day, one misplaced decimal put in by a tired employee gets through every now an then

[loud spear]

hey new to the game does wildfire make it so that enemies cant go over 4 stacks of soulblaze? its kinda unclear

[fluid knot]

The playtesters are regulars in here an know what they're doing

[lethal lagoon]

So your argument is that none of the playtesters used voidstrike?

[olive ember]

I doubt its a misplaced decimal, they just took feedback that voidstrike was the worst staff cuz bad cleave, bad damage, etc. etc. and buffed everything without realizing the ultimate effect when you combine all the buffs together

[fluid knot]

The ticks max out at 4 when transferring to a new enemy after one dies

[fluid knot]

Thats not what i said.

[olive ember]

but yeah known playtesters have been in the discord, as well as media influencers like youtubers and streamers

[fluid knot]

Not everything is going to be finalized by the end of test cycles

Stuff changes, for multitudes of reasons

[olive ember]

either way I'm just having fun with voidstrike while it lasts and when it inevitably gets nerfed into the ground I'll swap back to something like trauma

or surge

tho I still think surge needs buffs

[loud spear]

so other sources can still stack higher on an active transfer target then thank you

[fluid knot]

Hopefully it doesnt get nerfed with a scorched earth approach, that'd be sad

[olive ember]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1x59hWhx7A0NIq/d1337NcJMWxQ?invite=cr-MSxCZkEsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

https://streamable.com/8m5o4g

this is what we are competing with

[indigo portal]

The playtesters have implied that this is an old version that they playtested. Old enough to where some currently known playtesters didn't even have access yet. For some reason we got an underbaked version that is riddled with balance issues. This is most likely the reason why some weapons didn't get touched during the update, and why the dev blogs showcase trees that are oriented differently.

[olive ember]

so unless they nerf everything

[late aurora]

doesnt surge connect to weakspots? im sure there's some synergy with the weakspot/crit side of the tree

[fluid knot]

Yeah, the ones you initially set light too can stack to their specified cap, its only transfering the stacks thats capped to 4

[late aurora]

havent tested yet tho

[olive ember]

surge staff? or surge blessing

[late aurora]

staff

[olive ember]

surge blessing on voidstrike sends out a second ball which helps with weakspot synergy

[lethal lagoon]

@indigo portal That explains a lot, maybe a rush to gamepass/xbox?

[olive ember]

surge staff doesn't hit weakpoints at all

it does body damage

[lyric burrow]

alright am i just bad or is maelstrom way harder now

[indigo portal]

I have no idea. It's also been implied that we'll be getting more playtester-approved builds of the game soon. It might've just been a way to prevent a delay of the update.

[lyric burrow]

i could clear it semi consistently with most builds before the patch and now its like impossible

[olive ember]

enemy damage has been tuned up and director is alot more varied and imo more difficult now

[echo cosmos]

Yea I think I am going to make a brain rupture build.

[fluid knot]

They turned up the spawn director, likely to compensate for the increased power level

[olive ember]

but we also have broken ass power creep on like every character to compensate

[lyric burrow]

ignore im using evis

yeah i figured it evened out more

[olive ember]

so basically everything dies, until you make one wrong play and suddenly you're the one who eats shit

[fluid knot]

I LOVE what they've done with Auric Maelstroms

Its so much fun now

[lyric burrow]

im ok with it being hard

but goddamn

im also getting a lot more people who are like just barely high enough level to do auric maelstrom

[olive ember]

@lyric burrow can't even use that as an excuse anymore, according to zealot chat eviscerator is good now

[indigo portal]

Something to note though is that I think only the balance is what got delayed. This update has been functionally wonderful save for some light cosmetic issues and the occasional server hiccup.

[lyric burrow]

yeah i do think its actually good now as well

[olive ember]

yeah the rando's are hit and miss

[lyric burrow]

just not hsword

[fluid knot]

Yeah thats a problem at the moment, but it'll die off over time as people leave again

[indigo portal]

Eviscerator is good rn.

Use it.

[fluid knot]

An you'll get more an more people who are ready for that challenge

[olive ember]

I legit did a hi shock damn and i had one competent teammate who was toxic af, and then two like rly chill guys but omg they might as well have been bots

[slow raven]

theres also a lot of returning players who decide to jump straight to auric maelstrom as soon as they hit level 30 and bring their blue weapons

[lyric burrow]

my last 3 maelstroms have been comprised of like level 32s lol

[lethal lagoon]

It's either the worst or best time to be pub lmao, depending on your desire for a challenge.

[upper galleon]

yee

[lyric burrow]

its def hard

which ive been asking for

[upper galleon]

lots of people who hit level 30 and quit

coming back

[lyric burrow]

i am glad evis is decent now

[olive ember]

I'm not

[upper galleon]

and que'ing for the hardest difficulty then getting pwned

[olive ember]

i wanted to laugh at eviscerator copers a bit longer

but no

[fluid knot]

Its much easier when people can pull their weight, there are just a lot who cant yet

[olive ember]

fatshark actually competent and buffed the weapon

[late aurora]

amen

[upper galleon]

i'm still pissed at chaxe being buffed to being "usuable" but not fixing any of it's issues

[lyric burrow]

i wish carapace damage was better but im also using a mid one rn

[fluid knot]

Ive had two really good teams today an we rolled it

[upper galleon]

thansk fatshark

[gaunt stone]

Has anyone tried doing auric maelstrom as psyker. If so what build we thinking?

[lyric burrow]

best is assail/void with dome

[upper galleon]

I can't believe 95% of chaxe gameplay is clubbing enemies to death

[lyric burrow]

in my exp

[dawn sphinx]

Can't wait to get a better second blessing on it.

[upper galleon]

they can't even give me gore on heavies

[gaunt stone]

Those were my thoughts too

[cyan notch]

chainclub

[indigo portal]

We're in a world where Chaxe is now the worst chain weapon.

[lyric burrow]

is chaxe good too now

[fluid knot]

Is that actually playable now?

[lyric burrow]

i havent used or seen it

[olive ember]

I haven't done auric maelstrom but if you are looking for meta run a crit voidstrike with surge, assail knives or bugged smite, and then run like shield or shriek

[upper galleon]

oh yea, i've been going martydom and like, it passes the stat check

[lethal lagoon]

On that note, I'm having below lvl 30 psykers beating experienced players in damage because of assail in t5 pubs.

[upper galleon]

you can horde clear, basically anything but kill monsters

[shy fiber]

Scrier's gaze not so worth?

[gaunt stone]

Thoughts on melee? I kinda wanna lean into the dueling sword more.

[lyric burrow]

illisi for meta

[fluid knot]

Is it painful with its animation locks still?

[indigo portal]

Chaxe is fine as ever. Still can perform. Afaik it can still 1 shot all Elites with Thrust/+Power.

[upper galleon]

yes

[olive ember]

ehhh its not bad but the peril gain makes it kinda limited in scope

[lyric burrow]

w/e for fun

[upper galleon]

and it still clubs through on lights and you lose all your damage

[olive ember]

illisi was meta, now duelling sword mk iv is my best friend

[lyric burrow]

void and assail can round out most builds

[shy fiber]

true

[lethal lagoon]

Scrier's gaze for bursting with guns is what I've gathered.

[upper galleon]

and it has no gore on normal heavies so ??? just more clubbing

[olive ember]

assail is good elite spam, voidstrike is good carapace but also good horde clear

[gaunt stone]

Blessings on Illsi?

[fluid knot]

Yes, Assail an Smite are both good in different ways, but if you've not done much Damnation+ already, get some practice in first

[noble trellis]

was wondering if anyone had a good purgatus staff build they could share? been really liking it with asail

[olive ember]

and then melee choose illisi for horde clear dueling sword for special kiling

and yeah

[lyric burrow]

slaughterer and unstable or deflector

[olive ember]

BB is also good but since voidstrike is overtuned you don't really need the elite damage, and assail is also overtuned so its better to take that

[round charm]

what was illisi attack rotation for horde?

[lyric burrow]

special heavy

[olive ember]

special heavy spam as much as possible

if you can't do that

[echo cosmos]

Scriers is great, but it is very hard to manage well

[gaunt stone]

On Mael I have gotten like 80% auric is a breeze for me I just wanna climb into maelstroms.

[olive ember]

then heavy -> light

[indigo portal]

Scrier's is a lot of effort but if you can manage it it'll perform. It'll practically be a 24/7 uptime of +damage. Works great with a non-peril weapon to cope with being at high peril.

[lyric burrow]

heavy light otherwise

[fluid knot]

Alright nice, do it 😄

[olive ember]

technically QQ cancel heavy is better but then you gotta deal with QQ jank

[fluid knot]

Lose all your stacks too doing that

Slaughterer an what not

[slow raven]

i like scrier's gaze but there's some big downsides to it

[round charm]

im having a hard time not just defaulting bb as well

[upper galleon]

activate H1 activate H1

[slow raven]

it's like the vet executioner stance where it doesnt cooldown while it's active

[lyric burrow]

it can be hard to manage if your using it with other stuff that generate peril

[shy fiber]

Which gun?

I haven't tried Gunker yet, really

[cloud sequoia]

my friend reaction when i use assail with scrier gaze

[slow raven]

also scrier's isn't working properly with the cdr from warp siphon, it eats up all of your charges but only gives you back 7.5% total, instead of 7.5% x number of warp charges

[indigo portal]

I use a staff with it. I mostly use it with Assail though. You can use quelling to stall the 100% peril threshold to keep the ult up. Along with the talent that allows for full walking speed while quelling you can vibe.

[dawn sphinx]

I suppose the double projectile is the best option once I get it, right?

[gaunt stone]

Surge is awesome yes

[honest frigate]

Double projectile? Whats the blessing for that

[olive ember]

vraks 3 or 7 I forgot which one tbh

[gaunt stone]

Surge

[olive ember]

i believe vraks 3? for gunker

[honest frigate]

Been hearing about double projectile for a while

Im a tad confused

[olive ember]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1x59hWhx7A0NIq/d1337NcJMWxQ?invite=cr-MSxCZkEsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

its the one the vets are using atleast

[olive ember]

theres a rare blessing on voidstrike called Surge (not to be confused with surge staff) that fires an extra projectile on crit shot

[gaunt stone]

Oh you are talking about gunker double shot that seems sick

[olive ember]

wait

theres a gunker double shot?

[gaunt stone]

That video seemed like it

[slow raven]

they really shouldve named it something else

[honest frigate]

Excited to see the explosion spam in action

[gaunt stone]

I think I'm just losing my mind I played DT for 10 hrs straight today. I have a problem.

[limber heath]

assail counts as a ranged attack right?

ignore the activate windows kekw

[gaunt stone]

Yes

[autumn smelt]

i wanna know your guys thoughts
with my voidstrike build i just dont find myself using assail almost evern, and when i am, im using it basically for the same role as brain burst, so i just changed my tree to head down the brainburst path so i could nab wildfire and psykinetic communion, but now i have 1 point left over, and i could either put it toward kinetic flayer, warp expenditure, battle meditation, or purloin providence, but im not sure which to take

[olive ember]

yeah but just fyi Surge is a Tier 4 blessing only hence its kinda rare, also if you ever get it on the trauma staff instead its completely useless since it only works on the lmb for trauma staff

[olive ember]

yes

tho assail also consumes it so its a bit iffy

[honest frigate]

Battle meditation is pretty good iirc

[gaunt stone]

Imagine if it worked on the other trauma part.

[olive ember]

it might be good, tho idk how good

since the whole shtick about trauma is that it knocks enemies away

[shy fiber]

I thought surge only worked on primary fire not secondary fire

[olive ember]

so i have no clue how good a secondary explosion on trauma would be

[barren arch]

so, what are your guys' thoughts on Smite?

[shy fiber]

Great CC option

[olive ember]

it works on secondary for voidstrike, always has, its the trauma where it doesn't work

[olive ember]

hard to tell since its bugged as shit right now

[honest frigate]

Needs a little bugfixing and then a little buff

[shy fiber]

Well that’s a bummer

[gaunt stone]

It's alright with the infinite bug I don't think it will feel good without it imo

[shy fiber]

At least Trauma has rending

I love Trauma staff

[round charm]

this the gun you guys were talking about?

[gray kelp]

OP with empowered bug, not accounting for that I think its not as strong as bb/assail

[viral solstice]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1x24y50K-9e0am/d1337J4t23KN?invite=cr-MSxjOGosMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[olive ember]

I believe so but I've never used it so uh

[round charm]

it needs blaze blessing?

[olive ember]

oh hey @viral solstice is here

resident vraks user

[viral solstice]

just briefly usin 3 for this patch

[olive ember]

vraks is def the best boss dps psyker has actually right

[viral solstice]

thats 10k plogryn dps

its pretty real

[olive ember]

how about the vraks 7? I remember a streamer mentioning it but everyone uses vraks 3

[viral solstice]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1x29RbMRM8ctmA/d1337gjXGWrK?invite=cr-MSw5TDIsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[shy fiber]

Wild I need to get me a good Vraks

[viral solstice]

in practice u can get it pretty chonky

[round charm]

what would you recommend for a general use vraks, or are they only worthy when specced for that particular murder?

[viral solstice]

7 is fine but 3 has better synergy with stuff on psyker due to headhunter being better than surgical for spam and it rolling crits per burst

[olive ember]

Holy shit I forgot crab was British

[viral solstice]

it's just they had their finesse buffed so they interact very well with destiny disrupted and scrier's

[olive ember]

Now I know the reason for his affinity with knives

[shy fiber]

Gunker sounds really fun now

[viral solstice]

probs the msot fun one is just revolver

[echo cosmos]

I honestly can't stand burst fire guns in this game.

The weapon recoil is too high for me to not be wasting ammo

[olive ember]

how easy is it for you to upkeep scriers anyways

not scriers sorry

[viral solstice]

hand-cannon making knives pop

[olive ember]

disrupted destiny

[round charm]

@viral solstice do you have a build pic?

[viral solstice]

very easy if u take 30s

[idle bay]

So Scrier Gaze is basically - quick to 100% peril button?
It should get rework into: "Emperor is Great!" ability - to immidiately (without delay) blow yourself up, with extra nodes magnifiying explosion radius and damage and providing etra wounds.

[viral solstice]

i usually take 30 stacks because its funny

[olive ember]

ah the 30s makes sense

[viral solstice]

and u take weakspot +2

so u only need 5 kills to get all 15

[olive ember]

yeah I tried it with the 30 stack and it felt kinda weak

especially with a team that killed everything

[viral solstice]

but again its like if ur team killing everything it not the end of the world

sometimes u just need to steal a pack of like 5 gunners and chain murder them in time with the stack transfer

[olive ember]

wish they made disrupt destiny like coherency based where anyone killing your marked target would give you a stack

its weird how it has anti team synergy

[viral solstice]

i think it might stall stack loss or something but its a bit buggy atm

anyway im goin to bed but try revolver its pretty fun

[olive ember]

gn gn

Actually before that if you are still here

any recommended vet build?

[cyan notch]

psword bolter

[shy fiber]

Daring today, aren’t we?

[olive ember]

I hate the psword and I hate the bolter lmao

also isn't the psword like rly weak rn

[viral solstice]

moving recoil on headhunters in this version is lower than stationary

fwiw

[olive ember]

the hot new thing is one of the claws right

[flint pawn]

Highest damage I've done in the messiest match I've ever done lol

[round charm]

yo, how do you get that screen?

[olive ember]

mod, tho I play vanilla so I wouldn't be the one to ask on how to set up

[idle bay]

Pwswrd/PlaSMA, Pwswrd/Vraks MK III Headhaunter autogun 🙂

[olive ember]

the damage numbers are wack rn for damage tbh

I saw a redditor of all things showcase their 1 mil damage scoreboard

like yesterday

[late aurora]

i didnt know the mod was updated

[safe meteor]

Hello fellow psyker enjoyers, how we likin the psykering 2.0?

[olive ember]

everything is either bugged to all hell or overtuned

[flint pawn]

I don't think it is, it just works for me still

[olive ember]

that is to say its pretty fun

[shy fiber]

Hello sibling it be going well

[flint pawn]

I have many mods still functioning

[echo cosmos]

Great! I am building a wall!

[olive ember]

the rando's this update are kinda suffering

and by rando's i mean you people

I don't recognize most of you

.>

[shy fiber]

Hello

I used to talk more often

[olive ember]

new players in my hi int damnation dying to poxwalkers >.>

[idle bay]

Waiting for wave of nerfs rn 🙂 Because new powers are so good.... that some a-hole liitle b. will for sure whine and throw tantrum on forums demanding immidiate nerf

[shy fiber]

But then new things didn’t really interest me so I left

I think I’ll play this game regularly now 💀

[gaunt stone]

Dude I feel you there...

[heavy torrent]

New Psyker question: The old Psyker could "edge" peril and not die as long as you didn't brain-burst above like 85%, is that still how it works? Asking before I go in and die a lot 👀

[shy fiber]

I almost died in a Heresy game because the vet blew up a poxwalker I was about to push

It’s happening everywhere

[idle bay]

They dying to poxwalkers on Malice so... on Low Int malice....

[shy fiber]

Oh yeah and then we proceeded to die

[safe meteor]

Truly psykerous

[ashen schooner]

my last mission had 2 guys with 80 kills while me and the other had 400

[flint pawn]

Had a vet in one match that downed 22 times and fully died 4 or 5

Quickplay Auric

[ashen schooner]

I hope they died that many times if they got down 22

[idle bay]

All 3 wound curios are meta now then ? 🙂

[echo cosmos]

A wall funded entirely by My Beloved

[safe meteor]

And maybe buffs to the middle ability? (The bio lighting thing) I personally can't seem to find a use for it other than support CC

[olive ember]

I failed a mission because a psyker with 1/3 hp and 2 wounds worth of corruption didn't heal and he just took a poxwalker hit and died, the ogryn didn't know how to not get turned into swiss cheese and died, the vet did not know how to not get domed by sniper and died, and then I got bum rushed by 2 maulers and because of sniper dodged early and got my skull caved in

and died
very sad

[flint pawn]

They were running wounds. They used the Medicae twice or thrice, I forget. They weren't very helpful.

[idle bay]

That is the whole point of it - support CC.

[flint pawn]

I was really tempted to continue the match without resurrecting them but I decided the coherency toughness was worth it

[gaunt stone]

I kid you not I have seen zealots with 8 wounds like what the hell.

[shy fiber]

Heresy mission and the ogryn didn’t know how to push

[idle bay]

New passive gives them 3 wounds. And another passive +8% damage per missing wound

[shy fiber]

Got surrounded easily

Kept spamming shield + mace heavy attacks

Oh man we’re really going through the motions of release day

It’s both horrifying and exciting

[olive ember]

tbf shield is actually rly good now

tho the optimal combo is still lights -> heavies for shield I believe

[shy fiber]

Still . . . They didn’t know how to push lol

[gray kelp]

these blessings pretty good?

[gaunt stone]

Ohhhh that makes sense I don't play zealot I thought people were just insane.

[shy fiber]

Could stand to change superiority

[silent coral]

is the blessings on this good? or do they need to be changed?

[flint pawn]

Imo Rampage to Bloodletter, Flak to Unyielding

[shadow quail]

I've noticed a few orgyns with shields just standing in doorways, not even near the horde

[dawn wolf]

Brain burst was 97% max iirc, and yes though you don't have the easy escape if you overcook unless you spec into it.

[idle bay]

Thats noob ogryns. More experienced ones - a bleed the living shit out of everything with shield

[shy fiber]

Wild

[keen bane]

what is psykers ability :p

[shadow quail]

Yeah lol, that factory level where you defend and it's got the doorway next to the heal station, he just stood there the entire match, everyone was outside killing.

[shy fiber]

Duh it’s <unlocalized “loc_talent_psyker_shout_ability_description”:
context.warpcharge_vent undefined>

[idle bay]

Maybe he was having pizza break 🙂

[keen bane]

ty 🙏

[flint pawn]

Closer to the goal but not quite

[shy fiber]

Anytime sibling

[gaunt stone]

Eating is for the weak. You must play with discipline for the emperor.

[keen bane]

nah im really new i just opened the game for the first time can u actually explain what it does pretty pls 😭

[idle bay]

Food is primary motivator for Ogryns

[shy fiber]

It sends a shout that staggers everyone in a cone

[gaunt stone]

Shit you got me.

[shy fiber]

Upgraded version also quells peril

[olive ember]

thats just default psyker push no?

[shadow quail]

AOE pushdown

[shy fiber]

It goes really far

[olive ember]

you do a shout which knocks enemies in a cone in front of you

30m or something like that so a decent range

[shy fiber]

Exactly

[flint pawn]

It also goes through walls

Which matters for players pounced by hounds in another room

Or stopping a trapper from ruining someone's day when they can't be saved

[shy fiber]

Or to tell a daemonhost to shut up

Possibly the most important function

[flint pawn]

Or stopping anything that isn't a mutie before they ruin someone's day tbh

[shy fiber]

You should shout at daemonhosts as much as possible

They’ll thank you

[olive ember]

^^don't do this if you have ascendant blaze

[cyan notch]

i dont think shouts do anything

[flint pawn]

I'm ripping the dh thanks

[dawn wolf]

Keep them blinded by keeping your weapon flashlight pointed at them

[shy fiber]

^^do this if you have ascendant blaze*

Trust me sibling

[flint pawn]

If someone awakens that dh I'm getting the kill lol

[safe meteor]

Please don't shout at the possessed being, they're going through enough emotional pain as is

[shy fiber]

No no no you don’t understand you shriek at them to suck it up

The best way to motivate a depressed person is to yell at them after all

[safe meteor]

Tbf I wish for a psyker summoner ability where you could summon your own warp creatures to fight for you

So I can sit back and relax

[tall mango]

Oct 19th they’ll add that

[shy fiber]

Play vermintide 2 when siennas career comes out

[tall mango]

(to a different game)

[shy fiber]

EZ money

Is it just me or is it difficult deploying shields when you have the two charges version

I’m in a tense situation and I spam F yet nothing comes out 💀💀💀

[honest frigate]

Its always difficult deploying shields

[shy fiber]

Maybe it’s bugged because of warp charges and cooldown shenanigans and shit

[echo cosmos]

Are you aiming it correctly?

[honest frigate]

Its not too intuitive

[shy fiber]

Yes.

[honest frigate]

Sometimes i deploy them in the ground

[shy fiber]

Okay what the fuck

How many siblings in here are furries

[honest frigate]

Or sideways infront

Making them useless

[shy fiber]

Is it like a rule that for every two Psykers one of them is a furry

[honest frigate]

Many

[shy fiber]

MF has their own emoji

It’s Joever

[honest frigate]

We're so back

[echo cosmos]

I'm not a furry, just trans

[shy fiber]

I . . .

Okay

[honest frigate]

Already halfway there tbf

LOL

[shy fiber]

New headcanon

When we use Venting Shriek we push them back with visions of our fursonas

[honest frigate]

Check this fit

[echo cosmos]

Computer science diploma

2/3

[shy fiber]

Specifically the version that deals straight up damage

[honest frigate]

Even as a furry i dont wanna imagine this psyker with cat ears

He looks perfect as is

[shy fiber]

You don’t have the correct haircut smh

[honest frigate]

I am NOT taking the mad scientist cut

Besides, the character is female

[shy fiber]

You’re not playing Psyker correctly

[shy fiber]

So??????

[tall mango]

god i wish i could like those helmets

[flint pawn]

Let's not introduce cat ears into the game in general please and thanks

[honest frigate]

Your mom

[tall mango]

I just, can’t

[flint pawn]

Don't need to be attracting a certain crowd

[honest frigate]

[shy fiber]

She’s dead

[honest frigate]

Died serving the emperor?

[echo cosmos]

Instead we should introduce Felinids

[shy fiber]

Cancer

[honest frigate]

Oh

[flint pawn]

Same problem, possibly slightly better or worse

[shy fiber]

I’m gonna be a buzzkill because I feel like it

[flint pawn]

Slightly more older women, slightly less young men

[honest frigate]

Why is everyone into fucking computer science

[shy fiber]

I just want a ponytail

[honest frigate]

Im legit fuming

[shy fiber]

And normal looking haircuts

Is that too much to ask

[honest frigate]

EVERYONE is into PC stuff nowadays

[shy fiber]

. . . Is this a bad time to assert what I’m majoring in

[echo cosmos]

Because I am too lazy to do stuff myself so I do more work to make a PC do it for me

[shy fiber]

👀

[autumn smelt]

i found out why i was losing my mind

[honest frigate]

I am going to kill you

[tall mango]

i’d wear cat ears

[autumn smelt]

its the wave mutants that allow enemies to hit you when their holding you

so if youre grabbed in a horde, youre dead

[honest frigate]

Too feminine probably

[worn cypress]

I’d pay for cat ear cosmetics

[honest frigate]

Wouldnt want to anger the sjws

[worn cypress]

fatshark pls

[shy fiber]

I just want normal haircuts lol

[safe meteor]

Psykers are secretly furry anyway wasn't there a voiceline where they say something like "I wanna see Felinids something something they're beautiful"??

[shy fiber]

Or like, more mundane haircuts

[honest frigate]

This sounds like something the loner personality psyker would say

[shy fiber]

I’m pretty sure they exist within the aesthetic of the Imperium

[honest frigate]

I dont have that one

[shy fiber]

Loner being a Furry while the Seer makes fun of them

[honest frigate]

Felinids may be canon to 40k but they dont look attractive

[echo cosmos]

Seer would never

[honest frigate]

[echo cosmos]

Seer is insane but not a bully

[shy fiber]

Then the Loner lashes out at Seer because they’re cringe and then Seer cries in the bathroom

It’s funny because it’s an inversion of what people would think

[echo cosmos]

Seer would never bully loner

[tall mango]

You guys memorize the voice makes?

names

[honest frigate]

Whats the third personality

For psyker

[echo cosmos]

They are each others support groups

[shy fiber]

Yes

[honest frigate]

I forgor

[shy fiber]

Savant

[honest frigate]

Oh i forgot which one i have XD

[echo cosmos]

Or as I call them

Bootlicker

[honest frigate]

Idk which one mine is

Either seer or savant

[bold flint]

camelid racing

[shy fiber]

I mean they’re not a bootlicker when they even question why some things in Atoma are so bad

[echo cosmos]

Do they talk about their Beloved?

[shy fiber]

Like, they question the living conditions of the sewer

[honest frigate]

Dont ever question stuff in the imperium

[echo cosmos]

Or do they bootlick the enforcers?

[shy fiber]

That’s a heresy

[honest frigate]

Rookie mistake

[bold flint]

or do they like racing

[regal jasper]

Im heresy

[tall mango]

i just call them schizo, strict, and weird

[honest frigate]

Im a racist because i love racing in missions from start to finish

Its called speedrunning

[shy fiber]

I’m a racist because I’m racist

I hate those damn Xenos

You guys think I’m fictional racist

No I’m actually racist

[tall mango]

whatever my beloved thinks I agree with

[safe meteor]

"Even your imaginary friend stopped talking to you? How sad!"

[echo cosmos]

Seer talks about their Beloved and dreaming

Loner hates everyone who isn't also a psyker, and the male one has the shrillest voice in existence

Savant is all professional and was a former enforcer

[drowsy slate]

Can someone tell me what I can change now? Are both blessings changeable or still only 1?

[tall mango]

yeah, schizo, weird, and strict

[shy fiber]

Female Loner is after my heart

I fucking love Female Loner

And Female Savant

You know what

All the female voices are great

[echo cosmos]

Female seer is my favourite tbh

[tall mango]

female ogryn

[safe meteor]

I think the least use voice is female seer I swear I only heard it once in the beta

And then never again ☠️

[true lake]

yeah i never hear female seer

[echo cosmos]

I use Female Seer because I wanted the nutjob vibes she has

She is crazy but also pretty kind

[safe meteor]

She reminds me of like Sienna lmao

[echo cosmos]

Yea basically Sienna but less of a pyromaniac and less of a jerk

[tall mango]

and crazier

[shy fiber]

Sienna isn’t a jerk

She’s an auntie

She’d never

[echo cosmos]

All of the Vermintide crew are jerks.

Its just a matter of how much of a jerk

[ornate hamlet]

Is this op?

[shy fiber]

Yeah I fell in love with Female Seer

Love her personality

[heavy torrent]

What's the spec? I can't seem to find it

[echo cosmos]

"No dying in my dream >:("

[bold flint]

that warp resist

[echo cosmos]

(one of the new shield voicelines)

[shy fiber]

Female Judge (Zealot) is also a heretic :(

[round charm]

which coherency buff do you guys prefer?

[shy fiber]

This is so sad

[echo cosmos]

You see, here's the thing

All zealots are heretics

[shy fiber]

Nuh uh

[spice veldt]

with my assail build, I don't like Mind in Motion, so going for the crit one lets me just tale Malefic

[echo cosmos]

All zealots are either heretics or assholes

Maybe even both

[safe meteor]

My dream, my rules, my shield!

[hasty torrent]

any dope psyker builds that promot revolver useage and the shield?

promote*

[echo cosmos]

"Yes Beloved, a shield IS a great idea!"

[echo cosmos]

Honestly Psyker doesn't get much out of revolver

[manic flint]

it gets lasers / bullets?

[echo cosmos]

Not while using shield

[manic flint]

they come out.

[ornate hamlet]

@bold flint is that bad?

[manic flint]

badum tish

[hasty torrent]

ok so then

any shield builds i could look at

i wanna try putting up the trump wall baby

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-dancing-maga-trump-gif-18842875

[bold flint]

well it means you arent going to get as many casts out of your peril before you need to quell

[echo cosmos]

"No Beloved, that isn't a good dog"

[round charm]

whats a good psyker gun aside from vraks 3 with the double shot

[chrome sail]

hrm best brain burster replacerer?

[round charm]

smite for cc, assail for killing shit

pick one

[chrome sail]

what about the other one?

[round charm]

the other one is bb

[true lake]

brain rupture is just better bb

that annoyingly doesnt count for penances that ask for you to brain burst things for some reason

[round charm]

bb is great with teamwork, but felt bad going heresy+ with randoms

[potent echo]

Pick brain burst just to get the CD talent, or don't and get knives

[hasty torrent]

could anyone direct me to a spot to look at the new builds

[shy fiber]

It did for me?

[echo cosmos]

Brain Rupture can have massive cooldown reductions, it's funny

[potent echo]

https://youtu.be/qR1Et6qV1Qw?si=s59KrcPTosm9BKYR

Timestamps

[ornate hamlet]

@bold flint is got a fast recovery or should go for new staff

[echo cosmos]

I love dueling sword now btw

[dawn wolf]

It's the far left venting shriek

[potent echo]

Duelling sword 4 is default loadout on psykers now

[echo cosmos]

Does more weakspot damage then deimos

[potent echo]

Yea Deimos was nerfed

[heavy torrent]

Thats' the same as the old vent tho, honestly not what I was looking for. Though I didn't die in a mission to play around, might have to test that 97% though

[echo cosmos]

Deimos may have the special, but headpoking is great fun

[potent echo]

Deimos special can't even out compete uncanny duels

[chrome sail]

so bb or assail?

aiming for total killing

[dawn wolf]

Oh, I picked that up in a youtube somewhere and remember doing it (or was it 87?). Other skills have different peril buildup and they changed it all so I'm sure it's different now

[mossy sundial]

hey guys, is it still possible to get the redacted penances done?

[potent echo]

The only point to take FS is the dodge and deflector

[potent echo]

Assail

And then go center keystone for ultimate mindless knife flinging

[chrome sail]

alr

[potent echo]

Keep in mind the knives from assail flies to your cursor

[hasty torrent]

ty

[echo cosmos]

Flies around and near it

[chrome sail]

so mental atgms?

[potent echo]

So you can/need to manually aim the knives if you take the pierce talent (you should)

[heavy torrent]

Is that how they work? I've only tried one round, but I just chucked 'em everywhere and things would die

[potent echo]

To maximize their use you need to manually aim

Think of it as DRG gunner missiles if you played drg

[heavy torrent]

I have but sadly I don't play gunner 😄

I play Engineer

[true lake]

basically just shake your mouse around a little bit at the horde/target you are aiming at to maximize its potential

[heavy torrent]

Good to know

[potent echo]

Yea or aim at shooters across the room and you will hit them

[heavy torrent]

How many can be out at a time? Like if I shot some into the air and then used a weapon into the mobs

[potent echo]

You can throw the knives up then aim back down for maximum headshot or getting over/around cover

[true lake]

for shooters across the room i recommend your staff or RMB on assail, assail has super slow flight speed so if you want them dead fast you need RMB to fly over there or to just focus them with a force staff/whatever other ranged

[heavy torrent]

Considering BB was more for hard-targets, do you bring new weapons in missions to clear those while using Assail?

[true lake]

ideally yes

surge and voidstrike are good options

[rocky basin]

Assail feels broken ngl, barely need any other weapons if you just spam assail hard enough

[potent echo]

Yea you should have something in your kit that kills crushers

Uncanny duelling sword possible

[true lake]

warp attack on force swords also work pretty well at cutting through armor

[heavy torrent]

I have a force sword, personally

[true lake]

duelling sword not a bad option if you can aim for weak spots

[heavy torrent]

yeah the warp strike is what I use

[potent echo]

Duelling sword 4 can oneshot muties on headstab

[true lake]

the warp strike can cut through armor quite a bit, at least enough to focus down a crusher real quick or something

[heavy torrent]

I can't hit heads on purpose 😄

[rocky basin]

Deimos force sword is goated for it, just do warp charged heavies and it obliterates whatever you need it to

[true lake]

thats what i do personally, warp charge heavy for anything i dont have the space to charge voidstrike

[rocky basin]

Its my dedicated anti armor for psyker outside of the lightning staff

[heavy torrent]

idr which force sword I use

But whichever it is has at least one sweeping attack

[true lake]

the main "meta" is illisi due to its ability to cleave through fodder pretty quickly

[chrome sail]

what are staffs and what are they gonna do

[true lake]

obscurus has some slight cleave attacks and is kind of a middle ground

[heavy torrent]

I'm not good at managing peril outside of BB, so honest I don't use staff 😔

[chrome sail]

i picked it up and its pretty fun lol

[heavy torrent]

I can only focus on one peril thing at once

[true lake]

depends on what staff it is cross

[shadow quail]

Did they nerf the illisi? it's still good just doesn't seem to have the same power

maybe its just me

[potent echo]

Slaughterer nerfed

[shadow quail]

ah

[true lake]

i know they slightly changed up force swords in general in patch notes, not sure what all happened blessings wise

illisi probably needs a slight bit more nerf tbh

[shadow quail]

yeah it doesn't feel as good in hordes

[true lake]

but if its just a blessing doing it then meh

[shadow quail]

although with the void I don't really need the illisi as much now

[true lake]

with all the new stuff you hardly need illisi to be used as a horde clearer

the new grenades for eveyone chew through stuff quick by themselves

[wicked sedge]

converting new low level vet players to psyker with magic rocks

[shadow quail]

Yeah might use the stabby boy

[true lake]

im probably going to go into warp charge tree and use my assail as quick burst damage

[shadow quail]

it's okay at hordes and deletes all elites

[true lake]

or to deal with especially annoying modifiers (im looking at you hunting grounds)

[rocky basin]

Ye with all the new horde clear it's definitely incentivising keeping your melee as the elite killer

Which is perfect for my deimos

[shadow quail]

agreed

[true lake]

yeah deimos excels in that for sure

i have killed the raid boss so quickly with it nearly by myself

[shadow quail]

Only really pull out the illisis in a pinch atm

[true lake]

with teammates helping with the shield ofc

[rocky basin]

Plus its still solid enough for hordes, aim head height and it'll cleave through them just fine with light spam

The heavies are just kinda useless for hordes so you need to shove a lot

[true lake]

i almost never shove with it tbh

[cloud sequoia]

new voidstrike is satisfying

[lofty temple]

Kinetic Deflection or Mind in Motion?

[near wyvern]

Depends, if you can get them to a nice funnel, L1H2 impales them like a hot knife through butter

[rocky basin]

Fair, you just have to get them pretty dense together to justify over good ol light spam since lights swing down and always tag heads real easy

[potent echo]

Toughness for sure

Mind in motion is not very good

[bold flint]

mind in motion is bussin

[mossy sundial]

any tips for cliffhanger? can you still even complete that penance?

[true lake]

the one map that has the ending area where you have the two small bridges works well if you get the horde stuck on it

also the map with the large furnace area

[mossy sundial]

can i do it with force sword push?

[true lake]

redacted penance can still be done yes

no has to be the F ability

[mossy sundial]

ok ty

[true lake]

it should be easy after the nerf a long while back

[half turtle]

does anyone know if the kinetic flayer proc consumes empowered psionics

[true lake]

it used to be more enemies required

empowered psionics only effects your blitz ability nothing else

[half turtle]

isn't bb my blitz ability

[true lake]

yes

if you have it set to that

[half turtle]

doesn't kinetic flayer proc cause bb

[true lake]

yes and no

it causes a bb effect but it isn't your blitz

[half turtle]

hmm ok

makes sense

[compact cargo]

Gunpsyker

[true lake]

it can't really apply itself to something that happens like that because the effects make your blitz do more damage and like cast faster and stuff

granted empowered psionics is easy to stack anyway

[paper harbor]

that columnus such a beast

killing elite very fast

[compact cargo]

Psyker can't really go wrong

Funny eternal lighting

shard delete or old bb but meh

[patent steeple]

With which, elite kill guarantee or extra chance?

[true lake]

elite kill imo

depends on your squad

because sometimes they get to it first

[patent steeple]

Like with disrupt destiny, where your mates dont see the mark and accidentally kill your target first…

[true lake]

yup

[patent steeple]

I dont actually remember my psyker talents, but i think i picked assail and shield with psionics and cdr aura…?

[olive ember]

Wait they can see your mark?

The games where I used it they just killed em anyways

[faint sigil]

i dont think they can

[patent steeple]

No, they cannot, thats the problem

[potent echo]

Oh it doesn't count if your ally kills them? That's kinda poo

[faint sigil]

if they could see it, then they'd get shot by other people

same as when people shoot bb targets

[potent echo]

They buffed the 10% warpcharge on soulblaze to work even your team kills them

[autumn smelt]

man
i used to say voidstrike was the worst staff
look at it now

[olive ember]

Voidstrike will prob get nerfed

Maybe

[potent echo]

Psyker now can have quicken, AB and KB all at once now which is kind of

[olive ember]

And then we are all just gonna go back to trauma

[potent echo]

Purg gang

[patent steeple]

Well at least then people with at least half a brain would listen to me politely requesting them to not shoot the glowing blue enemy…

[potent echo]

I haven't tried the new surge though sounds funky

[olive ember]

Undertuned imo but some people love it

And there’s def people getting like 700k damage per game with it but

[still hearth]

It's only undertuned compared to Voidstrike

[round charm]

when you can hold one empowered lightning through a whole game the damage is nutty

[olive ember]

Idk in a microcosm it feels mid, 3 charges to kill a mauler 4 for crusher and mutant (with crits)

[round charm]

unless you mean the staff

[olive ember]

The staff

[potent echo]

I'm holding off from using voidstrike until it's nerfed

Definitely sounds cool that you can oneshot reapers and bulwarks though

[olive ember]

3 charges to kill a mauler meanwhile purge staff can kill mauler packs with one full charge

Surge should have it’s damage like doubled

And then I think it would be good

[potent echo]

Wait 3? Wasn't the damage buffed?

[round charm]

i was about to argue that surge ccs them, but they dont do much when on fire either, so...

[potent echo]

3 was like pre-patch

[olive ember]

Yeah it’s still like 3

Tho the charge is super fast

[potent echo]

Oh

[still hearth]

Surge is super snappy now

No more snooze gameplay

[potent echo]

Warpstrike on a staff 🤔

[still hearth]

Now they need to make Smite that way too

[potent echo]

So I guess illisi surge is a thing now

Playable at least

[olive ember]

Idk I think for what surge is, heavy damage against literally one target (it’s chained targets are tickled), 25m range, decently high peril cost

It should do double the damage it’s doing now

[autumn smelt]

i wanna see a mod (for private use ofc) that allows you to have unrestricted access to all nodes on the tree (save for the blitz and ability), just to see how absolutely broken classes can get

[olive ember]

Idk why it needs 4 charges, 90% peril to kill a single mutant, and that’s with crits

[round charm]

youd be tanky as hell

[shadow flint]

Can the new cystals crit?

[potent echo]

You can stop the mutant then swap to illisi I guess

[autumn smelt]

yes

[potent echo]

Oh yea I had a friend play wall psyker and it's hilarious in maelstrom mutants

[shadow flint]

Awesome, i tried googlin but just got alot of old info

[potent echo]

They all get stopped by the wall

[potent echo]

It's all YouTube now

[autumn smelt]

the best part about the buffed dueling sword

[mossy sundial]

anybody know the name of the best map for cliffhanger

also, fuck cliffhanger

forcing me to use venting shriek smh

[honest frigate]

Psyker class best class

Always has been, always will be

[fast swan]

What fun loadouts are y’all runni?

I’ve been goin void dueling with assail and shield but wandering what other staffs are crazy rn

For auric

[honest frigate]

Illisi + shredder pistol + assail and venting shriek

Or replacing the pistol with purgatus

[still hearth]

Assail, Surge, Shriek and Warp Charges

[honest frigate]

And empowered psionics

[fast swan]

Does scriers gaze work well at all?

[still hearth]

No

[raw token]

if you dont find cc satisfying on its own youll never find a cc build satisfying

[fast swan]

Darn

[compact cargo]

Gun
Right tree
Profit

[left crater]

does this pistol look good for a crit build?

[still hearth]

CC is horrible in this game don't @ me

[lofty temple]

I can not change a single thing about my build without radically redesigning it

[compact cargo]

The lighting tree can be combined for infinite lighting

[lofty temple]

shit sucks

[compact cargo]

which can be canceled for greater effect

[raw token]

@still hearth

[compact cargo]

[still hearth]

Alright you know what. You and me outside rn

[raw token]

👄

[snow scaffold]

I'm running the same build, the game balances me in auric by sending tons of armored units against us.

[still hearth]

That's what the Surge is for??

[compact cargo]

That's what the axe is for

[round charm]

smite with middle capstone is kinda busted

[compact cargo]

Just don't misstime ur dodge

[round charm]

not damagewise, but the best survivability in the game

[snow scaffold]

Yeah surge is great but if I'm dead I don't know how some of my past teammates would survive