psyker-class

[cyan moth]

shield does NOT STOP pox bursts

HJAHA

[zinc phoenix]

So long as you don’t lift the finger the smite doesn’t stop

[cyan moth]

found that out the hard way

[still hearth]

But everyone plays rambo

[sterile saddle]

It does

[hoary hearth]

This a good start for Deimos?

[silent chasm]

oi is the Surge Force staff worth trying out?

[sterile saddle]

Shields will.stop pox

[cyan moth]

didn't to me just now, i had 3 explode outside and I eVAPORATED

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah if it had normal peril it’d be strong but reasonable

[sterile saddle]

They probably popped ur shield

[cyan moth]

it has hp?

[still hearth]

It's pretty mediocre compared to the S tier ones

[zinc phoenix]

Yes

[cyan moth]

Oh.

[lavish comet]

decent damge on two enemies

[zinc phoenix]

I like surge as part of my papa palp theme but it is objectively bad

[still hearth]

Voidstrike is just too good for me to use Surge

It does single target worse than the railgun staff

[silent chasm]

I will have to try Voidstrike when I unlock it. (I think I just hit 8th?)

[zinc phoenix]

You could take a white void stick with a 350 rating and it’d outperform the best traited surge stick

[silent chasm]

nod

[sterile saddle]

Now that everyone is using sticks again I almost don't wanna do it xD

[scarlet timber]

Okay guys quick question is melee psyker a legit build now or nah?

[zinc phoenix]

Using sticks is for plebes who can’t hold down smite button forever

[sterile saddle]

I just wanna b speshul >.<

[spark parcel]

That makes me sad to hear

[lavish comet]

Voidstrike feels like a Tau Railgun in 9th edition...

[zinc phoenix]

It true tho

[sterile saddle]

It's the poor man's lascannon

[zinc phoenix]

Ogryn gunlugger lascannon when

[sterile saddle]

That'd be sick

[still hearth]

It has been for a while with Illisi

[lament topaz]

That’s a hard ask

[sterile saddle]

Bruh.. ogryn lascannon PLEASE

[late yew]

trying out BB build with purgatus, soulblaze talent and warp battery

[still hearth]

They just fall asleep

[zinc phoenix]

I smell weakness

[sterile saddle]

That's ghost energy and spicy doritos

[late yew]

you just forgot to change your pants

[lament topaz]

Ugh it smells like cat piss and weed outside my school

This sucks.

[zinc phoenix]

What’s great about empowered smite is you can get empower charges by eventually killing things with it so it has perma uptime

[sterile saddle]

Wait weed smells different than cat piss? Did the quality go down?

[zinc phoenix]

It takes like 2m to kill a poxwalker but teammates

[plucky flax]

It's still good.

[magic hull]

haha holy shet

[noble trellis]

what have you guys been running for melee?
dueling looks appealing, but not sure about mk variant

[sterile saddle]

Bro someone was flexing a crazy dueling sord earlier

Had like crit and crit.. and crit

With 80s

[ionic needle]

Anyone tried out the mk v combat axe since patch? It was all the rage for a while there

[plucky flax]

Illisi still op so keep running that if you want.

[lavish comet]

Ilisi... never needed it, Palpatine POWAAAA was enough

[lethal plover]

I expect that others have realized this but dome shield + warp stacks = infinite dome shields

I just cleared auric mael with that

[hollow current]

either shield

[still hearth]

"[...] by eventually killing things"

Dude if you get any kills your teammates must've gone AFK

[zinc phoenix]

Gun lugger ogryn detected 😂 70k boss dsamage

[still hearth]

[sterile saddle]

I mean I'll b 100% running dueling sword with my gun psyker.. it's going to be fashionable AND viable.

[lethal plover]

leave it to fatshark to have 100% cooldown reduction

[zinc phoenix]

When you are zapping entire map simultaneous you sometimes kill stuff they don’t see because it’s in weird spots 😂

[hollow bronze]

how long before empowered psi gets a nerf you lot bet?

[sterile saddle]

Dude like next week

[lethal plover]

is that before or after warp stacks get nerfed

[sterile saddle]

Maybe sooner

[zinc phoenix]

What’s funny is empower would be bad if not for smite imo

The warp charge instant recharge stuff is way stronger imo

[sterile saddle]

Yeah

[silent chasm]

is bashing hoes with my staff supposed to do No Damage?

[zinc phoenix]

Yes

[lavish comet]

Smite EP feels like:
"I do 10 damage per tick, to 300 enemies a once, and all of them are stunlocked!"

[sterile saddle]

I didn't know it only takes 1 charge

That's nuts

[lethal plover]

the emperor saw it fit to grant us unlimited ults

[manic ether]

I'm confused on the subclasses on the talent bar, if I wanted to do mind flayer or whatever it's called would I pick Wildfire or Psykinetic's Aura?

[zinc phoenix]

“It ain’t honest but its much”

[lethal plover]

the battles against chaos are unceasing and we need the pick-me-up

[sterile saddle]

U can pick both

[lavish comet]

"why only 300?"
"I tested on Heresy..."

[zinc phoenix]

I wish they’d double horde sizes

[manic ether]

So it's for the Mind Flayer subclass?

[zinc phoenix]

For all diffs

[hollow bronze]

only bad bit about empowered smite is it makes your fingers hurt, that and snipers

[zinc phoenix]

Dome

[sterile saddle]

God I hate snipers

[manic ether]

I just use the staff

[lethal plover]

speaking of smite, it does not completely paralyze enemies sometimes. is there a reason for that ?

[zinc phoenix]

Dome rejects snipers

[silent chasm]

Hmm, Lightning Fingies and Yetrocks are both very fun seeming

[zinc phoenix]

Dome is busted but in a fun way and I’m ok with it

[silent chasm]

like the Ward of Dawn soundin' wall thang?

[lethal plover]

can you cast dome while smiting or you have to break smite

[candid cave]

What is "Soulblaze"

[sterile saddle]

Setting targets on fire

Blue fire

[zinc phoenix]

You can dome while eversmiting but it’s tricky

[hollow bronze]

psi fire

[candid cave]

I see it referenced within various Psyker talents but I don't see where we interface with it.

[lapis linden]

does the new smite blitz crit?

[silent chasm]

like the white fire from the sword charge?

[candid cave]

How does it trigger, when/where?

[lethal plover]

how does that work

[manic ether]

The subclasses for pysker honestly confuses me with the talents

The others are quite literal

[sterile saddle]

Is it white? I always thought it was blue

[plucky flax]

White flame with blue outline.

[lethal plover]

it's psyker fire

[candid cave]

How does a psyker trigger SoulBlaze?

When does it occur.

[lavish comet]

Something from the past xD

[zinc phoenix]

“Palpatine was WEAK”
- Darktide Eversmiter Psykers

[lethal plover]

use purgatus staff or talents. read the talents

[candid cave]

Its in our talents.

[silent chasm]

like whitish blue. BEWD-ass fire.

[candid cave]

Well, it's REFERENCED in our talents.

[sterile saddle]

Certain weapons can roll Soulblaze perks(adds stacks 2-6) on crit, your purg staff has fire stacks and ur shriek can further add stacks.

[silent chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/night-king-kaiba-gif-9539408

[zinc phoenix]

And it burns burns burns the REE of fire, the REEEE of fire

[lethal plover]

"don't see where we interface"

"kill stuff, get soulblaze on nearby enemies" - perk description

[sterile saddle]

I'll settle for the color "Whute" cuz it's thr sound I make when it works

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve been thinking about taking the flat damage REEE because it seems funny to just blap a horde

What’s the hp of poxwalker in damnation with the patch changes?

[sinful mortar]

Psykers eating fine this update

[safe crystal]

Soulblaze is the blue fire psykers do instead of the boring orange fire. Applied with some blessings on weapons (blazing spirit), purgatus, and some talents

[lethal plover]

too fine, the dome shield is basically a staple now for any squad

[sterile saddle]

Ah Alhpirus, have you seen Alphirus around?

[sinful mortar]

Assail shreds Elites short of Ogryns

[fluid knot]

New Wrack n Ruin is kinda ass vs the old one ngl, its applied much more easily, but stack caps seem to be in effect now, so you cant ramp up silly damage with it anymore

[zinc phoenix]

Dome giving massive toughness regen is just 👌

[sinful mortar]

No, but Alpirhius was just around the corner

[fluid knot]

Yesnt, i played a melee only scab faction earlier an with the Mauler numbers it fell off pretty hard

[zinc phoenix]

Dome makes melee invincible, can’t be shot and regenerate all toughness damage

[fluid knot]

It deffo has weaknesses

[silent chasm]

I'm honestly between Assail and Smite rn. Smite don't do the damage mostly, but it does ok DOT and holds fucks in place. Assail is just "dudes die. It's random, but they die!"

[sterile saddle]

I like minishields

[sinful mortar]

Me, replenishing toughness after killing a horde while quelling

[zinc phoenix]

Quelling, I’ve heard of this

Eversmiters have no peril tho

[candid cave]

Nothing in the talents tell us what Soulblaze is how how it interacts with targets, and therefore how the various talents that interact with Soulblaze interface with us. So no, the UI doesn't do an adequate job at informing users what Soulblaze is or how our class interfaces with it.

[lethal plover]

yeah that is what we have a weapon slot for

[sinful mortar]

Obscurus alt does a pretty good job of dealing with that if the other melees in the party don't

[zinc phoenix]

You’re 100% right

[fluid knot]

Duh, but people acting like Assail is just a free pass against everything over the last few days, it is not

[sinful mortar]

Stunlocking and bypassing armor for a guaranteed high damage is nice

[zinc phoenix]

Assail is good for clear cutting hordes and elites for sure

But it definitely has limits

Eversmiting tho

[lavish comet]

Stories from a long lost past!

[sinful mortar]

I'm learning I need to switch back to the lightning staff more often than not

[manic ether]

So how many points do we have in the skill tree exactly?

[zinc phoenix]

This is your mistake, ditch it and get a void stick

[fluid knot]

You get 30

[noble trellis]

30, point per level

[lethal plover]

there are way worse things that are not explained. soulblaze is self-explanatory from testing and playing (enemies get burned)

[lament topaz]

I dunno man it feels pretty busted

[fluid knot]

It'll let you get to the bottom, an have a few to spare

[candid cave]

Bad assumption and bad UX design.

[fluid knot]

Its strong, but its not busted, at least not in Maelstrom

[sterile saddle]

Soulblaze can be triggered (with mods/perks) some of them require special/elite kills, some require critical hits, they all add a certain amount of stacks, but more stacks can be added with other items (like shriek ulti or purg staff)

[zinc phoenix]

People who think assail is busted have not unlocked the deep lore of psyker it is known 🙏

[sinful mortar]

It really shines against hordes of flak armored enemies

[fluid knot]

Voidstrike is busted at the moment

Assail is not

[zinc phoenix]

Mostly what assail seems good at is making noob psykers explode 😂

[lament topaz]

Mfw I was the best player in three games because I used shards

[left basin]

does empowered brain borsch reach any interesting one-shot kills?

[lethal plover]

cool story but go to suggestions forums / general channels

your complaint here won't reach devs ears

[lilac mirage]

Purgy Psyker is strong as F

[zinc phoenix]

Shards only look good when gunlugger ogryn not out there showing you true power

[fluid knot]

Not even gonna lie, ive exploded more times in this last couple days with Assail/Scriers than i have for months with the previous loadouts

[lament topaz]

I outmurdered two gunluggas

[sinful mortar]

Imagine a party of four psykers running two bees, UNLIMITED POWAH!, and pop goes the heretic. Would be a very fin run.

[fluid knot]

Peril gen' is so much higher an faster its a whole new muscle memory cycle to learn

[candid cave]

lmao, it's Fatshark, the only complaints that reach their ears are whining about damage output jealousy from Cata players.

[lilac mirage]

Shit jeez BB + Purgatus + Venting is basically TF2 Pyro on steroids

[quasi pier]

Could be why you think it's not busted

[noble trellis]

I tried out scriers to start, but now I prefer shield way more
it's just so much added value to any comp

[lament topaz]

Psyker is my bread and butter class, I feel very comfortable playing it. Might be why shards feels busted to me.

[zinc phoenix]

They aren’t

[fluid knot]

Thats literally how you suck the highest damage out of it.... an even then, its not busted. Its strong, but not busted

[zinc phoenix]

Eversmite is busted

Shards are merely good

[lethal plover]

actually they listened to my complaints about trauma staff so you could partially thank the players for it being fixed

go to their forums

[zinc phoenix]

That said shard shard regen is too high

[lethal plover]

instead of being a smart-ass here

[candid cave]

Your complaints, lol

[left basin]

does empowered brainburst get any interesting breakpoints

[quasi pier]

Maybe in bursts but not continous output for the whole match

[harsh salmon]

What’s the hype around the shards?, I don’t like them

[lethal plover]

yes they responded on the forum and fixed with a past patch

[zinc phoenix]

It’s a worse assail imo

[sterile saddle]

No

[left basin]

god fucking damnit i just want to brain burst ogryns

[lavish comet]

I would say very good, but not even close to EP Smite

[candid cave]

I remember that from the patch notes "Delerik 845048033 told us to fix this so here we go!"

[still zinc]

I don't like the penances that require BB now. I don't wanna BB

[candid cave]

Ah yes.

lmao

Stupid of me to forget that.

[left basin]

how's the lightning

[lethal plover]

they responded directly on the forum that it needed fixing

I have had enough of you being an idiot here for no reason btw

[sterile saddle]

I had high hopes BB would hit harder and it to smek but not enuff to get excited.about

[fluid knot]

They struggle with Maulers, make you deadass useless vs Monsters an cant really deal with Ogryns other than Reapers.. I wouldnt call that busted when compared to Voidstrike which kills everything in one or two hits an does decent enough monster damage for you not to be useless deadweight

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah I’d give it S tier, but if they lower shard regen so that you actually have to use other stuff it’ll fall into line quick. It’s the ability to spam a whole horde of murdersperm that makes it strong

[candid cave]

Oh?

[lethal plover]

no need to waste time on an idiot

[noble trellis]

thanks for getting that fixed man, you a real one

[left basin]

so no one-shotting ogryns

[sterile saddle]

If ur riding the warp train u might be able to

[candid cave]

https://tenor.com/view/womp-womp-conan-coco-gif-22970579

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-fist-angry-fist-arthur-arthur-fist-anger-gif-7354160

[lethal plover]

no problem. just so that people don't perpetuate a fake meme that the devs don't look at suggestions on their own forums

[quasi pier]

Agreed the voidstrike needs tuning as well as many other things right now

[lethal plover]

cynicism can be valid sometimes but in this case it's just stupidity masquerading as wisdom

[fluid knot]

All communities like to do that "The devs arent listening to us because MY bullshit suggestion didnt get implemented"

[left basin]

BRAIN BURST ONE-SHOT MONSTROSITY WHEN

https://tenor.com/view/sobbing-gif-sobbing-uoooh-gif-24612778

[sterile saddle]

Yeah, I saw the dmg buffs and thought it'd do like 175% more, so theoretically it should 'erhmerghod' the ogryns but ur still busting 2 shots on ogryns and mutes even with EP

[left basin]

:/

so what's the New Busted

[sterile saddle]

It takes too long to do damage too

[left basin]

crits?

i've got the surgevoid

[fluid knot]

Void

[glad sandal]

I need a UwU astartes emote about right fucking now

[sterile saddle]

Voidstick is where it's at right bow

[left basin]

i've sat around using it for far too long

[glad sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-no-no-40k-gif-24271093

[sterile saddle]

Bro can k make this my avatar picture? Someone teach me

[left basin]

now millions must brust

[lethal plover]

I'd say all staves are fun to use now

[fluid knot]

I find it really funny that before patch eveyone is like "Void is shit" but now its good so many people are sucking its proverbial cock Goes to show how many people only want the strongest option instead of playing what they find fun

[fluid knot]

Still need to try Surge tho, i hear thats had mad improvements too

[glad sandal]

well a lot of people only have fun if they feel useful

[left basin]

there you go

[glad sandal]

I think he meant the entire gif

[fluid knot]

A good weapon doesnt make a bad player useful, you can get gamesense from having better numbers

[left basin]

ah

[primal aurora]

I just had high intensity heresy run with four psykers

[sterile saddle]

I enjoyed Voidstaff before.. but now that it's popular I want to do something else xD I realize now I'm really just a troll in game

[late yew]

ok, so classic build with BB and battery sucks ass

[glad sandal]

a good weapon makes an average player good tho

[fluid knot]

Nope. Game sense is something you learn over time, not something you get from statistics

[late yew]

where is that from

[left basin]

i think you need the (paid) discord for the gif avatars

[mellow pendant]

konosuba iirc

[glad sandal]

such a shame

[whole oxide]

i mean, its possible to both simultaenously think that void was shit before and that its also always been fun

[left basin]

it was okay

it wasn't great

[sterile saddle]

Ahaha it works

[lethal plover]

if you have played from launch, well things go up and down, for void staff.

[left basin]

generalist weapon with peril red

[heady sapphire]

Void reduced psyker to horde control before which while fun can easily be considered useless

[fluid knot]

It was very good if you played it with Blazing

[brave turret]

schier gaze with assail? would it viable

[whole oxide]

it was passable

[lavish comet]

I will try Venting Shriek + Purgatus + Every Burn-Perk next.
Any Ideas? Useful advise?

[fluid knot]

Other than Brainburst being a thing an WnR previously being uncapped on stack application

[mellow pendant]

are you high? giving your team easy targets while keeping hordes off your backs is so nice

[lethal plover]

viable from what I have seen but people are gonna ask where is the dome for the squad

[left basin]

sometimes bullshit sometimes moronically nice if it was surgevoid

[late yew]

ah, right, i did not recognize

[glad sandal]

• when monstruosities spawn in with exactly 586 lil zombies

you need your psyker

[fluid knot]

It is, but be aware its also dangerous

[left basin]

but headshots doing nothing to priority targets with void still hurts me

[fluid knot]

Its certainly very viable, but you have to be super careful to not become a walking nuke every few minutes

[late yew]

Did they nerf force swords btw

[noble trellis]

it's high dps, but you can't really spam shards without constantly capping on peril

[left basin]

god i dont want more psyker nerfs before i'm able to play the game

[noble trellis]

and shield is so strong that it's opportunity cost

[fluid knot]

Yes'nt, you can still quell it off for like three, maybe four cycles if you're on the ball, but its a bit sketchy on the fourth, an its not up all the time neither an should only be used when you really need the DPS increase

[whole oxide]

scrier's just doesn't feel worth it with a staff, the damage gain is offset by having to quell more

[lethal plover]

psykers will probably be nerfed again shortly but oh well

[brave turret]

so basically good clearing a horde of elites

in a pinch

[lethal plover]

even now I think infinite dome shields is a bit too much

[brave turret]

they tested this for apparently 10 months, i doubt they'll nerf it heavily

[glad sandal]

tbh I'm all for a big nerf for everyone. Feels like the game is now easier so far. + Psyker is a complicated class I want it to be OP only when played right and right now everybody can play it and dominate (as long as they know the basics of peril)

[mellow pendant]

the infinite domes are def a bug. nothing about the skill description adds up to a total cd elimination

[lethal plover]

it's easier, but can't they just make harder modes

as our power ceiling grows, harder modes come

[sterile saddle]

Idk, I enjoy a certain amount of power fantasy, I'm not running auric missions tho, I'm not that skilled

[fluid knot]

The power level we're at at the moment has been set for Auric Maelstroms, if you're playing any other setting, yeah they'll feel rabidly OP

[noble trellis]

got a pretty low cooldown at least so you don't need to save it
but yeah, I wasn't a big fan
might try it out for a gun build later

[idle bay]

Domes are very low HP and pop instantly under fire of couple basic trash shooters. So they shpuld be spammable 🙂 It's balance thing

[brave turret]

should i run reality ancor with it or the weakspot kill one

[brave turret]

oh yeah im also running a las pistol

[fluid knot]

New Maelstrom director is so fun though, motherfucker has no chill an throws everything at you at once with very little downtime, so good

[heady sapphire]

Empower Psionics will definitely get nerfed because infinite use of smite is no way an intentional feature

[lethal plover]

auric mael is definitely where most enthusiasts / good players hang out.

[sterile saddle]

Wut u run on it?

[glad sandal]

I'm gonna sound like an idiot but what's auric

[left basin]

it took a fuckton of time and continuous whinebuzzbuzz for devs to figure out that delegating psykers to a total support role before they rearranged wasn't the choice when they got nerfed after the first beta

[glad sandal]

I've never really payed attention to the missions

[fluid knot]

Its the "hardmode" missionboard you dont get till you hit 30

[lethal plover]

harder maps than "standard missions"

[left basin]

half a year for stacks not to fall off?

[mellow pendant]

p sure it's somehow picking up the 100% peril reduction off one of the other effects attached to it

[zinc phoenix]

It sucks that soulblaze is capped to 4

[glad sandal]

OH SHIT

I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THAT ROFL

thx

[sterile saddle]

The perk is stacked to 4, not soulblaze itself

[glad sandal]

imma play auric now

[lethal plover]

[noble trellis]

anchor felt pretty necessary, and even then the peril management was rough

[sterile saddle]

Pretty sure I got a rifle.tbat goes up to like 10 or 12

[left basin]

(it's not a lot harder)

if you were able to do regular highints before it's not going to be hard

[lethal plover]

yeah I can't put a finger on much that changed

maybe it's because our power has grown with the new patch

[fluid knot]

HiSTG isnt particularly hard, but Maelstrom can be depending on modifers

An how awol the director wants to go

[lethal plover]

as long as they don't put snipers in fog I'm okay

[left basin]

fogpers

it's fogpers

[sterile saddle]

Lights out, fog and pox hound rush

[left basin]

and gunkers

people who say gun psykers eat white unseasoned rice

[sterile saddle]

Steamed rice is good af

I could eat a whole pot

[lethal plover]

this patch definitely favors gun psykers a lot too

in fact all options for psykers are now viable

[fluid knot]

Makes them much better for sure

When shotgun tho

[olive ember]

Gun psykers been viable for the past half year

[sterile saddle]

Anyone got a good Laspistol build? Asking for my friend(myself)

[olive ember]

Mostly because pinning fire shredder but revolver worked too

[left basin]

ius psyker being the most powerful thing to exist for psyker

it was for... how long?

every time i brought it up several dickriders jumped at me "UGH NOT EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE META"

"I USE CHAINSWORD AND FIRE TRAUMA STAFF AND I'M FINE ON HIGHINT"

[warm meteor]

Game sense is one thing, but to quote a AOS youtuber

"My army got buffed and suddenly im a better player, funny how that works"

Isnt this a repeat of the conversation that happened the other day?

[olive ember]

I mean fire trauma has been meta too

[lethal plover]

you're fine but could be... finer

[sterile saddle]

Trauma staff does fire?

[late yew]

I adore new surge

[left basin]

trauma staff does fire with the

[sterile saddle]

I thought trauma was the circle thing

[fluid knot]

Idk man, personally it is pretty annoying when people only wanna play the meta all the time an then claim everything that isnt meta is shit

[brave turret]

using the weakspot one can get you up to 30 stacks real quick

[lethal plover]

trauma has soulblaze blessing

[olive ember]

It is there’s a blessing that gives fire on crit

[left basin]

i was calling for an ius nerf

[sterile saddle]

O rite

[fluid knot]

This is not a tabletop game. If your positioning and target prioritization skills are dogshit, a good weapon is not gonna save your from yourself

[sterile saddle]

AOS?

Agro on sight?

[warm meteor]

Funny enough both those skills are things in the table top

[rare gorge]

how to pull off infinite smite?

[warm meteor]

So maybe this is a table top game

[lethal plover]

empowered psionic

[fluid knot]

My guy.. a tabletop game is fundamentally different to a game which revolves around on the fly reaction made decisions. You get time to plan in a tabletop, you dont get that in a videogame that changes the situation 30 times in half a minute

[sterile saddle]

U gotta use EP and hold both buttons is what I'm told

Left and right clicky

[halcyon creek]

Age of Sigmar (Warhammer fantasy)

[lethal plover]

both button? I just hold left click

[sterile saddle]

O

[rare gorge]

hold both down, or tap

left ok

[warm meteor]

So what ur saying is if they buffed your favourite build the game wouldnt be easier for you? The analogy doesnt work?

[rare gorge]

was runing a brainburst build that was chaining elites

but the zealots kept outdpsing me lmao

[fluid knot]

They did buff my favorite setup And with the new director changes, i'd argue that the game is now actually harder because the situations change more frequently and demand much more attention

[late yew]

2 psykers with smite is surely something

[lethal plover]

I just finished auric mael with 2 smiters indeed

[brave turret]

2 pyskers with assail is another matter

[late yew]

nah

2 smites more powerful

even if 1 assail more powerful than 1 smite

[brave turret]

i think 1 smite and 1 assail is the most powerful combo

[late yew]

against horde that is*

[lethal plover]

you can have both yeah

[left basin]

ass sail is the palpatine mode?

[lethal plover]

but you need to protect the smiter from being interrupted

no smite = palpatine

[brave turret]

assail is yondu mode

[left basin]

ok

[brave turret]

smite is palpatine

[left basin]

I WANT TO PLAY ITTTT

STOP PLAYING THE GAME I NEED TO EXPERIECEN SIKER BEFORE THE NERFSSS

AAAAAAAAA

[sterile saddle]

I beat my enememies.. to a PALP! BZZZZZT

[brave turret]

i really don't think theres gonna be nerfs

they rebalanced enemy health around the patch

and tested this for months

[left basin]

beloved needs to not touch the game for some time

[lethal plover]

definitely fixes to infinite shields
and perhaps infinite smite

[left basin]

(and buffs to brain burst)

[sterile saddle]

Pls

I also want to brain burst harder and faster

[glad sandal]

my brother in christ I just deleted a patch of elite gunners (5), Hounds (15), Mutties, a bunch of trash mob and a few ragers and armored elites in about 10sec with assail

[lethal plover]

also a zealot in the last auric mael with me reported that there was a weird interaction betwen psykers and zealots CD reduction perks
giving him perma healing (the yellow toughness thing) and we just needed to stay close to him

[glad sandal]

we need nerfs

[sterile saddle]

I also want to pick items on the left and still get stuff on the right

[glad sandal]

we need a shitload of nerfs

[south canopy]

We need buffs

[lethal plover]

[south canopy]

Don't ever nerf anything in a purely PvE co-op game tbh

Just buff everything

[sterile saddle]

Like warframe xD

[south canopy]

Give ogryns a 50m nuke

[whole oxide]

I want a button that instantly deletes all enemies on map and teleports me to finish, 'cos its a PvE game

[rare gorge]

Give veteran terminator armor

[south canopy]

Give psykers the ability to instantly kill monstrosities

Yes!

[rare gorge]

in fact, just let zealot call exterminatus

[warm meteor]

Ive found enough anecdotes of people sayinf its easier too. So i guess we are at an impasse evidence wise

[sterile saddle]

They have that

[lethal plover]

so there is probably not gonna be a 5th character?

[south canopy]

Nuh uh it's only 16m

[rare gorge]

their prob will

[sterile saddle]

Lol

[warm meteor]

What is so valuable about the planet anyways

[rare gorge]

exactly

[still hearth]

The game currently is much more volatile

[sterile saddle]

A 5th class?! What would it be?

[viscid matrix]

The tanks that are produced there

[still hearth]

Either you kill or you die

[limpid cypress]

Tanks. Good tanks

[fluid knot]

Its easier in every setting bar Maelstrom, like significantly easier. I joined a pal who hadnt played for months, did a heresy game with him an it was like walking through an uprising

[left basin]

office worker

[sterile saddle]

A techpriest?

[rare gorge]

what, hiveworld shittarius #411 was lost!!!!!!??????????

[whole oxide]

5th class is IMO more likely to come next than more talent-trees, but probably not for another year at least

[glad sandal]

dunno how they'll pull it tho, with the specialization you can get on the originals it's gonna be hard to fill up any "role"

[sterile saddle]

Play as a servitor

[plucky creek]

Maybe a tech priest with like sentries or something like that

[sterile saddle]

Use map to kill mobs

[south canopy]

Give zealots the ability to just straight up become Eversor assassins

[lethal plover]

what role are we missing? mechanicus priest ?

engineer playstyle

[steel egret]

Servitor

[glad sandal]

a summoner role yeah eventually

[fluid knot]

It'd be nice to get a ratling

Be best pals with the Oggs

[plucky creek]

Yeah a summoning or engineer play style would be cool

[teal needle]

Servo skull with a gun strapped to it

[warm meteor]

Summoner would be crazy

[teal needle]

Felinids

[glad sandal]

servo skull with a bomb strapped to it

[warm meteor]

Im excited for siennas new career

[teal needle]

Fungoid cave shaman

[steel egret]

Servitors attacks include, loud peeping, wailing of metal limbs, Speed up Blitz so they can roll away faster.

[warm meteor]

Bomb rats

[rare gorge]

tech priest that can be support, summoner, or damage dealer

[warm meteor]

Bring in a cawdor gangster lets go

[sterile saddle]

Spawns ammo and grenades as an ability

Occasionally poops ammo kits and med kits

[plucky creek]

They could have like the big claw on their back as another weapon

[glad sandal]

it would be an insanely fun "fuck you" if the next class is just a straight up space marine

[lethal plover]

wouldn't really make sense

[sterile saddle]

Bro space marine make ogryn look small

[glad sandal]

I know

space marine doesn't "follow" the path

[steel egret]

5th class? thats emperor.

[quasi pier]

Nah all the test players were very clear that the balance is fluid and a lot would probably change

[glad sandal]

space marine just walks to a wall and make a new path

[sterile saddle]

Lol

[teal needle]

Ogryn can beat space marine in an arm wrestling match 💪

[warm meteor]

I mean fundamentally our psyker at peak performance should be able to kill a normal marine

[fluid knot]

They've made it very clear before they dont want space marines in this game, so thats unlikely

[glad sandal]

muties goes bonk on a space marine legs without stunning him

[lethal plover]

I guess the devs just want to give us the sweet nectar of power for a bit

[glad sandal]

no shit sherlock I'm having fun right here go outside and touch grass

[steel egret]

5th Class: Citizen

[fluid knot]

🤨

[plucky creek]

Nah we need a daemonhost character

[sterile saddle]

Maybe if it accepted chaos and let a daemon in

[glad sandal]

regular-ass human, un-augmented

Special power : scream

Ability : none

[rare gorge]

5th class: Catachan devil

[steel egret]

You can spec to Tom, Jerry or Adam.

[glad sandal]

Weapons : a literal wooden plank

[plucky creek]

Bob

[steel egret]

Defensive stance: Cry

Battle banter of " IM NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE "

[glad sandal]

Special spell : can, in the right conditions, maybe kill one infested nurgle zombie

[sterile saddle]

The ultra hard difficulty, one of your teammates is a scribe, he must be escorted to the obj. He has 1 wound. If you win, you get 5x the rewards

[steel egret]

Well yeah

[lethal plover]

it is interesting to think that because this is 40k instead of fantasy, we probably can't have eldars in the squad

[steel egret]

Or whole team of Citizen.

[digital narwhal]

Bro doesn't understand what Power Creep is

[steel egret]

Lemme just adjust this one class..

oh now its unbalance, I better adjust that one too.

[south canopy]

I do understand power creep

I yearn for it

[sterile saddle]

Is it a super creepy guy that makes other creeps creeped out?

[glad sandal]

rofl

[south canopy]

Give us ever increasingly powerful abilities, gear, and enemies.

[glad sandal]

It's like watching someone throught their window, but while doing push-ups

[steel egret]

We would just end up Super Kerillian Veteran.

being main for everyone.

[glad sandal]

can't let the chase mess with those G A I N S

[sterile saddle]

Lol

Doing handstands and sprinting upside down

[rare gorge]

OK guys just got word from my insider from obesefish, 5th class WILL be a BLANK
Balances out psyker by instant downing them at the start of the match

[digital narwhal]

Okay good.
But do you understand why that's bad?

[south canopy]

I want the end game of Darktide that the player characters are straight up fighting hordes of chaos terminators

[digital narwhal]

[south canopy]

Power creep is a good thing

[digital narwhal]

Power Creep means easy game.
Easy game means boring game.
Boring game means less players.

[steel egret]

[south canopy]

40k is entirely just layers of layers of power creep

[glad sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-breaking-bad-saul-goodman-howard-hamlin-vhs-gif-22326485

"Power creep is good"

[south canopy]

Bro, the game is already easy

[steel egret]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/810873941060354049/1131282825467940894/20230529_212301.gif

[south canopy]

They had to give us auric maelstrom

[lethal plover]

5th class will be a giant ball whose entire purpose is to soak up shots from veterans

[digital narwhal]

Because we've power crept it, and now we need to be brought back down.

[south canopy]

Nuh uh

[digital narwhal]

[glad sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-gif-18399658447366638577

[south canopy]

Give us auric maelstrom+2

[sterile saddle]

I thought power creep meant that at max power the content is manageable, then they let out new, more difficult content u gotta creep toward

[lethal plover]

how about uber auric maelstrom

[south canopy]

Yes

[steel egret]

Heresy Auric Maelstrom Vortex Master difficulty.

[south canopy]

Every enemy is plague ogryns with guns

[lethal plover]

we need a stronger word than heresy

[analog solstice]

just tested smite out in the meatgrinder, is it useful in any way? damage seems pitiful in the meatgrinder

[glad sandal]

and shield

[sterile saddle]

The last difficulty is gotta be Warp

[unreal dust]

Can somebody help breakdown when to use which Smite? IE Left vs Right click?

[glad sandal]

dmg sucks unless it's a single target

[lethal plover]

it's not for damage obviously. it's incredibly helpful in auric maelstrom

play with a good smiter who keeps it up and mael feels like a breeze

[unreal dust]

Does small damage. But will deadstop entire crusher and mutant packs

[glad sandal]

New map : you're literally dropped into the Warp, you die
Power creepers :

[south canopy]

Skill issue

[steel egret]

Psyker friendly fire difficulty.

[late yew]

Never left click

literally only right click

[analog solstice]

oh, it stunlocks 🤔

[lethal plover]

holy shit if they ever add friendly fire......

[south canopy]

Literally enabling friendly fire would be so good

[steel egret]

ops sorry

[unreal dust]

It stunlocks. And on release it does a 'shove' which is great for 'quick tapping' bombers, bursters, and etc

[steel egret]

din see you

[brave turret]

i hope they changed disrupt destiny atleast

[glad sandal]

bruh if they add friendly fire I'm literally getting executed after about 5min of gameplay

[warm meteor]

Nah, adept human psykers can kill marines. Psychic powers range from all sorts of abilities, many of which have the capacity to face marines on equal footing.

Warp powers go kinda hard, so a skilled combatant of a psyker is taking on marines.

[brave turret]

have it so like 5 stacks will only disappear at a after 15 seconds

[lethal plover]

psykers exist on a spectrum. from scrap to emperor's level

[glad sandal]

so

[lethal plover]

it's just a hole for writers to play in

[glad sandal]

Psykers are autistic ?

that's my canon now

you can't make me change my mind

[warm meteor]

Depending on your position of whether malcador is human or just an emps projection the most powerful human psyker who wasnt emps could threaten primarchs

[unreal dust]

Everybody else is autistic compared to a psyker. Not their fault others can't see in more than 3D

[lethal plover]

you kinda have to be autistic to want to live in 40k

[warm meteor]

The 500 worlds are pretty cool

[fluid knot]

Mate half the people who engage with this franchise dont even realise its satire

[sterile saddle]

Orly? Never knew. I thought they needed organ implants and a lot of bio upgrades

[lethal plover]

when satire goes so ham it pops out the other way

[glad sandal]

It's a good power fantasy but yeah I would rather have my balls crushed than live 1 month in w40k

[fluid knot]

Its like that thing that some people do.. "You like 40K erefore you must be racist"

People are generally not very intelligent

[glad sandal]

and yet they can vote

[sterile saddle]

Isn't the emperor like some random dude who made a big splash so people started worshiping him and the force of will entombed him as a twisted immortal existence stuck in a deathstate?

[glad sandal]

nah I think the Emperor is kinda like the guy in the movie Man From Earth

is it explained in the lore where he comes from ?

[lethal plover]

Emperor has always existed to guard mankind

Don't ask where he's from

[steel egret]

He isnt in a deathstate, he is just resting for a minute..

[glad sandal]

considering what mankind has gone through for the emperor, it's safe to say that the Emperor is guarding mankind from himself

[warm meteor]

I think hes from chicago

[steel egret]

I dont know, where are those black ships going?

[sterile saddle]

Sorta. He was like the greatest king/general or something. And begged people not to worship him, and they were all lkke.. "we worship u now" and I guess the warhammer vrs makes it so that enuff ppl belivd something.. it happens

[primal aurora]

to BLM

[steel egret]

[devout moon]

Quick question, can assail crit?

[warm meteor]

Yeah

[steel egret]

I dont see why not

[sterile saddle]

I think so

[glad sandal]

The Emperor : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmG4X9PGOXs&ab_channel=JonLajoie%2FWolfie’sJustFine

[warm meteor]

Assail crit build, 3 chances to crit per shot

[steel egret]

Dont know what its base crit is..

I just know you can have 5% atleast for it.

and whatever else you can muster

via buffs

[warm meteor]

9 percent with the right perks i think

And then scriers gaze

[still hearth]

You should always run the crit after 5 weakspot hits imo

[warm meteor]

And... marked for death?

[still hearth]

It's just silly

[steel egret]

but it probably has some

base crit chance

[warm meteor]

Thought that was just ranged attacks

Idk if it counts as a ranged attack

[still hearth]

Assail is a ranged attack

You can see it consumes the charge

[sterile saddle]

I'm the emperor!

Lol

[warm meteor]

Okie doke

[glad sandal]

I'm torn rn

[warm meteor]

Then ill start running that, i was going for it but didnt have comfirmation

[glad sandal]

either I play psyker assail and have no fun deleting ennemies

[warm meteor]

Have no fun?

[sterile saddle]

He don't like assail,

[glad sandal]

or I play something else and psykers with assail in my games will delete enemies while I do nothing

[warm meteor]

But! It goes fwip fwip fwip

[glad sandal]

I love assail but it's just

too strong

[lethal plover]

Smite for the squad

Though arguably smite looks more boring

[still hearth]

Never smite

[glad sandal]

I mean I spent the last 5 games just camping assail without even pulling out my staff or my sword

[still hearth]

Not even once

[primal aurora]

assail too strong even on higher difficulties?

[warm meteor]

I like when the enemy hides behind cover and it deletes them anyways

[glad sandal]

you see those huge packs of hounds ? gone

those gunners ? gone

[magic hull]

nah, but it handles range nicely.

[glad sandal]

ragers ? gone

[sterile saddle]

I think he is just low key gud at game. I still get beat up running assail

[glad sandal]

my sense of purpose and pride ? gone too

[sterile saddle]

But I'm also very bad

[warm meteor]

Fwip fwip

[primal aurora]

assail is bad vs snipers

[glad sandal]

you carry well your name my child

[magic hull]

cap

[sterile saddle]

Yis

[regal jasper]

Psyker

I barely know her

[glad sandal]

Yeah but when you can delete everything between you and that mofo sniper

then assail becomes good vs snipers

[crude zodiac]

Guys, does a warp attack kill count with the assail blitz?

[warm meteor]

Just run a gun that kills snipers ez pz

[lament topaz]

God this looks so good

[sterile saddle]

Siiiiiike!.. er

[lethal plover]

Or just voidstrike the sniper with a half charge

[regal jasper]

Psyker fashion

[warm meteor]

Oof

[magic hull]

assail is nice because i finally justify gun psyker XD

[warm meteor]

Void goes hard

[lament topaz]

Better drip than my vet and zealot

[warm meteor]

Assail is nice cuz i dont need weapons

[regal jasper]

Phashion

[glad sandal]

hold on

[glad sandal]

looks nice tho

[sterile saddle]

Peg leg?

[lethal plover]

Void hits even behind covers

[regal jasper]

I got hungry

[sterile saddle]

I missed the peg leg cosmetic..

[warm meteor]

Imagine praying for good rolls, i already got my weapon rolled perfectly, assail

[sterile saddle]

Where is that?!

I need it for my gun siker

[still hearth]

Yes

[lethal plover]

Well enjoy them before the nerfs

[magic hull]

the ogs

[regal jasper]

Im tryna remember the set

[warm meteor]

Nooooo dont say that

[crude zodiac]

Oh, wait what, so easy toughness gen, huh

[sterile saddle]

Sadness

[still hearth]

Yeah you're gonna need that toughness bad

[sterile saddle]

I wonder if it's still selling

[warm meteor]

With tough gen on kill, peril, and quell idk if you can ever not have toughness

[regal jasper]

Just wait for shop reset

Fashion

[glad sandal]

what do you guys think about my drip ?

[sterile saddle]

Fashiontide

[still hearth]

Ahahaha

[regal jasper]

Fashiontide indeed

[still hearth]

[regal jasper]

I think generally psykers have cooler fashion items

[magic hull]

driptide

[sterile saddle]

U look like that old creepy boss of Homer Simpson, and that bald Don from Zoro had a baby

[heady garnet]

I'm a meta slave any builds yet?

[glad sandal]

nope

[heady garnet]

sadge

[still hearth]

Assail ans Voidstrike

Enjoy

[crude zodiac]

zealot with just lohner, can never run out, dang

[glad sandal]

lemme assail your ass real quick

[sterile saddle]

Lol

[regal jasper]

Hank isn’t a psyker main so our metas still need to be found

[heady garnet]

Watching the killfeed of 8 hounds gives me more dopamine than anything

[sterile saddle]

The outfit is immaculate tho

[glad sandal]

❤️

killing 35 specials in one volley of assail's missiles is better than sex

[heady garnet]

I only got into this game because of my boyfriend so I'm OOTL who's Hank?

[glad sandal]

Hank on DEEZ NUTS

my bad

[heady garnet]

[glad sandal]

[analog solstice]

Can someone show me their assail build?

[fluid knot]

He only just learned what Auric was today, the mans not been playing long

I wouldnt take what he says at face value if i was you

[glad sandal]

WARNING /!\ : I suck at the game so take it with a grain of salt

[sterile saddle]

That makes it hurt more. Thx

[fluid knot]

Nah, just means he's probably been playing malice lol

[warm meteor]

Wait you dont take tough on kill?

[glad sandal]

yeah I have a job, hard for me to clock in 500h+ and still have time to act smug and gatekeep on a discord channel my brother

[warm meteor]

Oof

I got 500 hrs on dont starve together

And 200 hrs on dark souls 3

[fluid knot]

Yeah, i work 40 hours a week too lad, but ive also been here since release, so i can instantly spot a noob talking out of his arsecheeks 😉

[warm meteor]

Only 40?

[glad sandal]

oh no a random sweaty guy on discord called me a noob, I think my life is over, I must uninstall the game

[analog agate]

I think he is an Ogryn main and playtester

[warm meteor]

Ill be doing 16 hr shifts and sleeping at work on the 10th

[teal needle]

I have a job a spouse a social life and hobbies and still have 500hrs, try getting gud

[mellow pendant]

ah is that the dude that does the ogrynomicon?

[fluid knot]

You dont have to do that, but you should probably not be saying XYZ is brokenly OP like its gospel when you dont have any real experience beyond the mid tier difficulty

[glad sandal]

to be fair, I bought bg3

[warm meteor]

I have 3k of chaos space marines to build and paint ;-;

[glad sandal]

I'm playing damnation in general, just haven't played recently until the new patch, so far my experience with assail is that it's reall strong, but I've been joking around for the most part of the discussion while you act and speak like you're the fucking bible itself

[fluid knot]

https://tenor.com/view/salty-raining-salt-salt-bae-nusret-gökçe-gif-15973939

[glad sandal]

get a grip mate

[heady garnet]

Best voidstrike blessings, perks, and dump stats? I know nothing so anything you say is gospel

[fluid knot]

At the moment, Nexus/Surge

Though the one what makes you cast it faster is a good pick, cant 'member the name offhand, perks, Crit chance + Carapace/Unyeilding

[heady garnet]

focused channeling

[old sand]

warp flurry?

[heady garnet]

I had like 5 runs yesterday where i exploded every few minutes because 1) i was trying out scriers eye 2)didn't realize how much i relied on the knockback to cleanse it was so embaressing lol

[fluid knot]

Warp Flurry, thats the one

[heady garnet]

warp flurry you're right

[fluid knot]

Focused is the one that stops the charge being interrupted iirc

[kindred chasm]

ok team

[heady garnet]

I liked focused because i can't dodge

[teal needle]

I tired voidstrike + scriers. On one hand easy crusher one shots. On the other hand, i embarrassed the hell out of myself

[kindred chasm]

what blessings and perks do i use on void staff

[fluid knot]

read up a few messages

[still hearth]

Surge + whatever

[analog agate]

Which, hilariously, is built into void. If you get hit while casting it auto casts

[silent chasm]

Four more levels until D O M E

[fluid knot]

Yep, which is actually pretty fuckin useful too

[glad sandal]

dome does seem strong

[silent chasm]

Dome plus Lightning or rocks is gonna be my go-to I think

[glad sandal]

to just pop that shit in the middle of a hallway and watch any gunners go :

[digital narwhal]

Maniac + Flak
Surge + Any you want

[kindred chasm]

dome rocks

[still hearth]

Flak feels like overkill now

[silent chasm]

tho the way the tree works makes it a sunnovacunt to swap between them?

[fluid knot]

Not anymore pal, Void now does the same damage too all armour types except Carapace, supposedly anyway

[digital narwhal]

Allows one shots for Flak Ragers

[still hearth]

Unyielding and Carapace is probably more value

[silent chasm]

is carapace armour tin armour, or like.. chitin

[zinc phoenix]

Scriers gaze sucks

[fluid knot]

I would say Unyeilding is the best one now yeah, can kill bosses with it, which is something Assail sucks ass at

[digital narwhal]

Maniac lets you one shot Dreg Ragers, and two shot Muties too

[still hearth]

Carapace is thicc

[digital narwhal]

Also lets you body shot Trappers iirc

[zinc phoenix]

And the “kill marked thing for bonus” also sucks

[regal jasper]

Its really good for combos but im not a big fan of it

[digital narwhal]

lmao

[zinc phoenix]

Like on paper “kill marked thing for bonus” should be really good but it lasts 15s so is impossible to stack

[still hearth]

Hmm. I guess I just never have issues with those

[silent chasm]

so anyone who makes my brain go "oh fuck vardumi/bakrazdumi/Kazaki-dum"

[zinc phoenix]

The peril gen makes it really tough to use in melee

[still hearth]

Mostly the thiccest boy with all armor actually

[digital narwhal]

Just manage your Peril better

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve been trying to stack all the “reward for high peril” traits

[silent chasm]

aah, nod

[zinc phoenix]

That’s not the answer, I’m not popping

[fluid knot]

No, ima become a walking nuke every few minutes because more DPS = more betterer

[zinc phoenix]

It doesn’t give enough of a bonus for melee, doesn’t solve the toughness problem and lasts a short duration

[still hearth]

Scier just felt bad to me

[zinc phoenix]

Dome gives massively more toughness and protects from ranged

[regal jasper]

I like walls

[still hearth]

If I could reliably get all the kills with muggle setup then maybe

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah basically

[sick light]

I loved the dome ngl

[zinc phoenix]

But you can’t because you’re on a team 😂

[still hearth]

Infinite dome is fun

[sick light]

Idk if I played it wrong, but the flying knife felt weird to me

[still hearth]

You need to aim them

[regal jasper]

I love shards

[still hearth]

And spam them into squishy enemies

[regal jasper]

I love them so much

Its so satisfying

[heady sapphire]

I never aim the shards of hate

Regen is silly quick so it's just spam hate for everyone

[regal jasper]

I aim my hatred

[magic hull]

imagine taking the game seriously.

a pve game

[digital narwhal]

I prefer the 2d Shield since stopping Specials and Elites is pretty clutch

[spice veldt]

pro strat of flailing your mouse around

[regal jasper]

I select 1 guy in particular

[regal jasper]

I agree

[zinc phoenix]

Smite and kite

[still hearth]

Guys what if we all run smite

[autumn igloo]

Does mod working?

[sick light]

I tried the lightning one too, it feels fun

[still hearth]

And no one kills anything

Ever

[heady sapphire]

I feel like psyker chat inherently has more autism than the rest of the class chats

[magic hull]

its better if you aim them tbh

[regal jasper]

Id giggle

[still hearth]

[jaunty schooner]

Assail gameplay

[digital narwhal]

Yeah but I don't use Smite

[fluid knot]

Sadly mate, you kinda have to, because misinformation being spread by people with no clue results in you know, the TEAM game being harder for everyone in the long run because people end up being deadweight

[proud hinge]

are there any online guides out there?

[magic hull]

no wonder the emperor used them for sacrificial lambs

[regal jasper]

Yeah pretty much

[fresh reef]

anyone else noticing an increased volume of very silly ragdolls?

[regal jasper]

I bet money that i probably am

Gotta get tested

[magic hull]

dude, i run with three idiots many games and we still made it out on damnation. I dont think its a bad as you put it out to be.

[fluid knot]

Im so glad they left the mutant ragdolls in when being hit with the rocks on Oggy, its hilarious

[sick light]

Yup, thats what I didnt like about it :T

[regal jasper]

I noticed it when i threw a rock and a scab went flying

[fluid knot]

We all do, and thats because people are clueless and or have no gamesense

[heady sapphire]

Same

[sick light]

Also, did they buff the staffs?

[regal jasper]

My mother refuses to believe that im autistic

[fluid knot]

Surge an Void deffo got buffed, not sure about the other two

[regal jasper]

But im a big boy so i can go get tested

[sick light]

Ya I didnt remember surge doing that much damage lol

[proud hinge]

hi are there any online guides

[fluid knot]

There are, but most of them are quite outdated now we're in a new patch, Ogryn has a very good new one tho

[sick light]

You simp for gale, thats proof enough of spectrum

[magic hull]

my average game

[digital narwhal]

Base Damnation?

[analog agate]

Fyi you can still quell cancel blaze trauma

[sick light]

EERGH

[magic hull]

auric as well, who tf cares tbh. Im just chilling.

[regal jasper]

I have no doubt that my undiagnosed autism plays into whom im attracted to

[digital narwhal]

No need to be hostile, mate.
I was asking a question.

[formal hill]

Damnation really isn't that bad, occasionally the AI Director decides you die, but honestly Damnation really isn't that bad at all

[zinc phoenix]

I’m tryin the empowered bb and shriek with soul blaze build now

[digital narwhal]

[zinc phoenix]

Gon b interesting

[proud hinge]

ye i meant for psyker this patch

[formal hill]

As long as you have any gamesense at all, and awareness, damnation isn't bD

[fluid knot]

Damnation isnt really the standard anymore

[magic hull]

I dont think i was hostile, sorry mate.

[fluid knot]

It was way back when, but ney longer

[digital narwhal]

All good, pal.

[unreal dust]

He was created when a bunch of Shamans, tired of being harassed by demons, decided to do a mass-suicide to merge their souls into one. Then he was born. Then he didn't do a lot except club heads because caveman times. This has probably been retconned at some point...

[formal hill]

Auric Maelstrom is standard for me but honestly, Shock Hi-5 is harder than a few of the Maelstroms

[sour bison]

is it good?

[magic hull]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-futureangeis-stan-twitter-gif-22575342

[fluid knot]

There are a couple of modifiers that make it easier yeah, but most of them are in a good place, monsters an melee only scab are both excellent ones

[novel thorn]

So, while leveling psyker. Is swapping brainburst out asap the play? Or is my bias against it unique

[pure palm]

woe, run n gun be upon ye

[limpid cypress]

I personally prefer Assail and Smite so I would say yes

[unreal dust]

Smite and Assail are both very competitive picks

[dull osprey]

@novel thorn brain burst is kinda dogshit instead of the other 2 yes

[formal hill]

They need a "bigger harder faster stronger" that was from VT2 that made all enemies that weren't a spawned horde, all Maulers essentially, and they do double damage with double HP

[unreal dust]

But Brainburst can still touch snipers in their no-no zone. So decide what you need

[dull osprey]

assail I'd say is better cuz smite relies on ur team to perform

[jaunty schooner]

Looks good! Riposte to Uncanny 👌

[fluid knot]

Nurgles Blessing + Melee only Scab are kinda like that already tbh

[unreal dust]

laughs in burster mass push

[fluid knot]

Maulers an Crushers as far as the eye can see

[limpid cypress]

Assail is very fun to use until you accidentally send your teammate off a bridge when they’re trying to push a burster

[sour bison]

really?

[still hearth]

That's the fun part though?

[limpid cypress]

To an extent, yes lol

[old flame]

Now that everyone is op the game is easier

[fluid knot]

More barrels modifer go brrr

[unreal dust]

Things are definitely more manageable. I'm not sure its necessarily easier given how much the AI director was buffed

[lament topaz]

So uh...shards probably need a nerf.

[old flame]

Was it buffed?

[glad sandal]

yeah no shit

[teal needle]

Things are easier for a good team. Feels harder to carry a team or get out of a sticky situatinlon

[old flame]

Seems the same to me

[glad sandal]

assail is too strong rn

[lament topaz]

It wasn't buffed, but it needs a nerf.

[glad sandal]

or you get too many assail shards at once

[still hearth]

If things go to shit at the wrong time its almost always a wipe

[fluid knot]

Its not too strong, everything that gives you a DPS increase in low difficulty is too strong

[lament topaz]

This

[whole oxide]

i mean, stuff looks strong on easy difficulty that isn't strong on higher difficulty

[lament topaz]

I was in Heresey

[jaunty schooner]

My understanding is that rending is a very potent choice. Otherwise, setting up the crit bonus with a dodge is a bit awkward

[still hearth]

You need to have the anti-wipe stuff for real now

[spice veldt]

beyond DPS, assail just has good synergy with feats

because it can crit, hit weakspots, and is a reactive weapon that can take advantage of Soulstealer

[glad sandal]

I'm still playing auric and it's not that hard my brother in christ

[fluid knot]

That scoreboard has barely any specials or disablers on it

[still hearth]

Assail can sit on a 45% instant toughness gain, with even more on kills

[lament topaz]

I killed most of the ones that showed up.

[winter otter]

Yeah, they really did a good job with Assail, I hope they don’t nerf it into the ground because of all the low-difficulty schizos saying it’s OP.

[fluid knot]

Yea, but thats like nothing compared to Auric Maelstrom numbers

[unreal dust]

Assail is pretty wild and effective. I just watch Psykers explode with it a lot

[whole oxide]

this is like saying that old WnR was overpowered........ if you cherry-pick some very specific usecases

[glad sandal]

they do need to nerf it a bit

like

less shards ?

or slower shard reload ?

[unreal dust]

Assail needs a tweak. Shield needs a check to make sure its not bugged

[sterile saddle]

They don't call us Master Exploders because our fuse is long

[fluid knot]

Yeah.. it was situationally very powerful, but if you never got enough time to stack it, not so much

[harsh urchin]

i dont think assail is that op lol

[fluid knot]

Its not

[harsh urchin]

are people just playing 3s and 4s

[fluid knot]

Its very good, but not OP

[winter otter]

Yes.

[lament topaz]

Behold: My monstrosity.

[spice veldt]

though it's not as conditional as w&r

[sick light]

Abusing warp powers and exploding from it. Working as intended imo

[harsh urchin]

it's pretty effective against shooters

[sterile saddle]

Mark of destiny, scrier siker is gon b the meta. Just u wait

[harsh urchin]

but it's pretty average against everything else

does zdps against bosses

[glad sandal]

aight maybe not op, but it's still a big too strong, I mean every single psyker I see is running it and basically wiping specialists

[fluid knot]

Good against clumped up specials, but a gun will still kill them much faster

[storm mauve]

how purgatus staff post patch on bigger enemies?

[harsh urchin]

you know what's fucking OP

[silent chasm]

can we make it lever action for actioning the cylinder? if so I'll take 7

[harsh urchin]

new voidstrike

it's absolutely disgusting

[still hearth]

Its basically the same

[spice veldt]

and is a blitz

[lament topaz]

I wish I could.

[fluid knot]

Yeah new Void is busted

[still hearth]

Assail is too good because it can be used as a primary weapon

[old flame]

Is using smite with the new surge staff redundant?

[still hearth]

No

[storm mauve]

@still hearthth

[fluid knot]

Again, they will die faster to someone who is a good shot with a gun, its strong, its on a glass cannon, it should be strong, but its not OP

[old flame]

I haven’t used it yet

[still hearth]

They serve different functions

Surge is single target moderate fast damage

Smite is multi target no damage CC

[old flame]

That’s good, I can live out my palpatine fantasy

[spice veldt]

and this leads to the topic of should such a weapon with such a low skill requirement be so effective

the only thing you need to do to aim it is to hover your cursor over an enemy

[harsh urchin]

well the problem is that if they nerf it, i think it'll be completely unuseable in 5s lol

[heady sapphire]

i OnLy PLaY DamNaTIan AnD MaELsTroM DoNt At ME If YoU PLaY HeReSY oR BeLOw

[harsh urchin]

i think it's barely cutting it as is for me

[fluid knot]

I mean.. Purgatus exists... an none has ever had an issue with that despite it being the most easy to use staff by a country mile

[spice veldt]

i've had a problem with it for a good while

[sterile saddle]

I play mostly at heresy

[fresh reef]

"psyker is so broken" mfs walking into Damnation, getting hit twice and dying

[fluid knot]

Not like you have to aim purga an it'll wipe a mixed horde with ease

[glad sandal]

While I kinda agree, the fact that someone with a gun still needs to aim and have to deal with other ennemies blocking LOS

[sterile saddle]

I struggle on heresy

[spice veldt]

you can look through my messages to see me complaining about infinite cleave

[old flame]

Psyker is the ultimate glass cannon

[sterile saddle]

Big boss.. let me hug ur legs through damnation

Or auric

[fluid knot]

I've never liked it myself, but it is what it is, there are much easier going options when you factor in Purga and even to a certain extent Surge with its auto-lock at this point, Flamer is another one

Hell, even Rippers on Ogg are pretty easy going for the amount of benifit they provide

[neat sand]

An ogryn with a ripper gun needs not aim :p they shoot and step in the hertic salsa lol

[fresh reef]

https://tenor.com/view/you-aint-hard-enough-for-these-streets-pikmin-breadbug-heart-locket-cuh-gif-4943348576023499076

[fluid knot]

Illisi, not being funny here, is another one

[heady sapphire]

Play wherever you're having the most fun.

[fluid knot]

As is Psword

[sterile saddle]

Lol

[spice veldt]

those are all weapons that I have a problem with?

[glad sandal]

still think balance is a bit oof rn

I mean

[lament topaz]

Man fuck playing with pugs

[glad sandal]

personal feelings and all

[old flame]

I illisi is my main until they add that great sword, if they add it

[glad sandal]

It's less...fun

[fluid knot]

You an i both to varying extents, but i dont see Assail being nearly as problematic as Illisi or Flamer/Purga

[glad sandal]

Well Purga wouldn't be that strong without that cowering blessing or whatever its name

[fluid knot]

At least it has meaningful weakness, like not being able to kill Orgyns, Maulers and does basically fuck all to bosses

[glad sandal]

On that we agree

[marsh kayak]

alright someone tell me the meta build now

[glad sandal]

it just turns the regular psyker into a full horde psyker imo

[fluid knot]

The suppression blessing? That doesnt do anything for Purga, like at all

[sterile saddle]

Lyuk mane. Lissen uh cuh'. I ain't fixin to click no 1000 buttons and bob and weave through mutants while landing three or four shots on a Chaos spawn while my team is getting used like volley balls and chew toys feel me?

[old flame]

What ever you want

[sick light]

Tbf they just released the patch and theres only so much data they can gather from their own testers

[spice veldt]

though it gives you strong build flexibility by opening your ranged and melee weapon to be specced into single-target/anti-armour

[marsh kayak]

i wana win

[glad sandal]

it does for me, prevents those lil shits from reaching me at all, and suppress ragers too

[marsh kayak]

smite looks cool tho

[safe crystal]

Ragers are immune to suppression

[fluid knot]

Thats how you should be building characters full stop though innit? You have some anti-armour, some horde an some inbetween

At least thats how i would go about it

[spice veldt]

yes

[sterile saddle]

Suppression works pretty hard tbh

[spice veldt]

my point is about there being too much build flexibility

[sick light]

It does, feels really cool to see 1 billion chain lightnings but deals 0 dmg :(

[nocturne nimbus]

So I'm a long time psyker lover and was super excited for the new psychic toys. But assail feels super OP to me, warp charges seem to be bugged and refund 100% of my ult cd if I consume even one charge, and empowered psionics seem to be bugged too and just remove smite's peril generation... I just wanna play psyker without feeling like I'm exploiting misbalanced stuff or outright bugs :(
(And I never liked gun psyker)

[fresh reef]

this build has served me well thus far, just felt like sharing

[sterile saddle]

Like having a free shriek when u get mobbed

Pop a few dudes get a couple of seconds

Helps for buying time to revive too

[fluid knot]

I agree with the sentiment, but in practice that would make games horrendous outside of pre-mades because you could end up with a team with no anti armour, or no horde clear etc an games would become obtuse

[spice veldt]

and it approaches a point of "my teammates no longer get to play"

[lethal plover]

they can slightly nerf the cooldown of assail so that it can still be used in a pinch but not permanently as rn

[spice veldt]

that's the inherent volatility of not running with generalist builds