psyker-class

[potent echo]

But there are also alot more gunners/shotgunners

[still hearth]

And this way you can get more horde clear

[honest frigate]

Gunners shotgunmers arent elite

And thsyre easy to kill with assail

[sterile saddle]

I run exta 12%

[viscid matrix]

I’m really loving DD, but reaching 30 stacks is hard, so went with 15 stacks for 30 seconds

[potent echo]

They are though, aren't they?

[honest frigate]

Dont think so, but ill look into it

[warm meteor]

Horde clear is best if wanting assail to be the main weapon me thinks.

You can play around elites and specials, but if you cant kill a horde fast enough you will have issues in my experience

[sterile saddle]

Works well with assail and using gund

[honest frigate]

Ik elites is stuff like crushers

[sterile saddle]

To get 30

[potent echo]

I think they definitely are

[honest frigate]

Or the armored guys with axes

Maulers

Ragers

[viscid matrix]

It’s amazing for any crit staff build too

Like void

[sterile saddle]

Yes

[still hearth]

Yah gunners are elites

And so are shotgunners

[warm meteor]

For assail do you think dipping heavy on crit is worth it?

[sterile saddle]

Yes

[still hearth]

Why not

You get free crits

What else are you going to take?

[potent echo]

I'll say no but it's along the way so why not

[sterile saddle]

Assail peirces, hits multiple enemies, multiple opportunities for free crits

[warm meteor]

Well the other coherence abilities is the only thing

[honest frigate]

Its so weird that certain enemies like shotgunners are elite but not shit like snipers or grenadiers

[sterile saddle]

And if u swap to a critical increase weapon it works as a Stat stick

[still hearth]

Ah yeah.

[warm meteor]

Yeah thats true

[still hearth]

Well the crit aura is kinda sucky

[viscid matrix]

Scriers is also amazing, if you can maintain below 100%

I swear I have a 50% crit chance, so everything is burning and getting double shot with void staff

[whole oxide]

does Disrupt Destiny just not work in the psykanium?

[potent echo]

Problem is the ranged dodge on crit requires the crit aura

[viscid matrix]

Yeh it only works in missions

It does a blue aura on enemies

[sterile saddle]

Disrupt destiny works, the 15 seconds is pretty tight timing tho

[warm meteor]

Is assail crit enough to sometimes one shot enemies assail cant normally kill with a headshot

[sterile saddle]

I wish it stacked down like warp charges

[still hearth]

Well you get DR and ranged immunity on crits

[sterile saddle]

Instead of poofing

[potent echo]

You can one shot bruisers etc

[still hearth]

And you can get guaranteed crits

[viscid matrix]

Better off going for the 30 seconds, easier to maintain max stacks they way

[potent echo]

But that depends if it hits the head assail goes everywhere

[warm meteor]

Yeah i guess all i miss going crit is minus 5 percent peril

[sterile saddle]

Nah even thirty seconds doesn't seem to work. The marks don't proc fast enuff or someone kills my mark

Unless it's a horde

It'd be nice if it dropped like 5 stacks at a time every 15 seconds

Or 15 stacks, just not deleting the progress entirely

I run assail on the sole premise that it's easy to maintain especially with EP

The other two are too much work

[potent echo]

EP and BB works well too

[silent chasm]

The perk system as it is dropped with the console release today, 'ae?

[potent echo]

BB indirect buff from hound HP nerf

[fluid knot]

Yee, im running Scriers too with Assail + Void

[sterile saddle]

Still takes 2 shots to kill mutant :/

[potent echo]

That's alr like so good though

[viscid matrix]

I’m still favouring bb and venting shriek for the peril dump, cause I’m bad at riding the 90% peril constantly and can sometimes go to far and boom

[fluid knot]

Oh yeah thats most certainly a risk with Scriers unless you ony run a gun for sure

[potent echo]

I run bb + purge + scrier, I wish bb could crit

[viscid matrix]

It weakspots, so get 2 stacks per bb for the 5 weakspot per guaranteed crit

[fluid knot]

Im actually a bit surprised at how relevant Warp Charges have managed to be in the new tree

[silent chasm]

'caz I'm just wondering if like, if there's a clearly defined "what's actually usable" yet. I have really bad with choice paralysis when there's more than one nice thing and was wondering there there were just Clear Winners for some of the class choices.

[sterile saddle]

Get a staff that u like with 80% quell

[potent echo]

EP + assail you can never go wrong

[silent chasm]

Sorry, EP?

[potent echo]

Empowered psionic

Keystone

[sterile saddle]

Bottom middle

[viscid matrix]

I do, but sometimes I shoot instead of quell and go boom, unless I have venting as an oshit button

[silent chasm]

ah, nod. One of the purple ones way down at the bottom.

[potent echo]

And for combat ability shriek is just too good for safety, utility and even damage

[viscid matrix]

Bottom middle

[still zinc]

I can't decide how to build my psyker. Too many options

[fluid knot]

Im actually finding Warp Charges more useful than EP with Assail, but EP is still very good tho

[silent chasm]

Oh, another question that seems important, is there only 30 skillpoints? Wondering if the tree is a race to the bottom or if it's 'take what seems nice'

[viscid matrix]

The 200 to everything is so good for non burn builds

[potent echo]

Warp charges need managing, and high skill point investment

EP is just simple and go

[sterile saddle]

Big oof, do you run quell while moving? If swapping makes u panic fire, I recommend getting the sprint quell it will feel more comfortable

[fluid knot]

That is true i suppose

[fluid knot]

Well you cant go back up the skill tree, but reaching the bottom still leaves you with some leftover points to spec elsewhere 🙂

[silent chasm]

oooh, nice.

[still zinc]

Its like, analysis paralysis.

[potent echo]

What's a sprint quell

[viscid matrix]

I think that one requires taking smite or assail

[silent chasm]

Running cools overheat, I'd presume?

[sterile saddle]

Well it's not actually sprinting it's just not walking XD

[potent echo]

I don't think that's a thing

You mean mind in motion?

[sterile saddle]

Mind in motion

Yeah

[viscid matrix]

Quell doesn’t slow you down, it’s very useful node, but it’s on the right middle side, can’t get it if at bb

[sterile saddle]

I run it, feels so good

[fluid knot]

It does yeah, but if you have already found space to quell, there isnt a whole lot of reason to walk slighty faster to do so

[potent echo]

How does that help my stupid fat fingers from clicking too much though

[gusty tiger]

Just a clarification question cause I'm gonna run some of the private game penances later today but the new version of bb still counts towards those right?

[silent chasm]

(ngl being able to cool yourself down without taking damage is SO NICE as a Sienna main)

[nova dirge]

Imagine holding r to quell

[sterile saddle]

It helps cause u don't have to click any buttons or swap weapons

[nova dirge]

Just whip out purg 🥱

[viscid matrix]

I think it’s limited to BB and it’s enhanced counterpart

[sterile saddle]

Just hold r and w

[nova dirge]

Just kidding

[vague grotto]

what perks do i want on my curios?

[silent chasm]

Is Smite any good? Being able to hold A Cadre of Fuckers in place seems nice but I'm not sure how useful that is when the yeetrocks can snipe.

[nova dirge]

Toughness and health is always good

[fluid knot]

Tbh im gonna check interactions between Transfer Peril on Void an Scriers, i reckon you could be negatve on peril for a little bit before it gets too much

[gusty tiger]

Ok thanks, I didn't know if it'd be scuffed with the changes or not so it's very helpful to know lol

[viscid matrix]

IMO 20% Health, 5%health, then resists against things that kill you

[sterile saddle]

I stack enemy resistances: sniper/bomber/gunner/hound/mutant

[nova dirge]

Its good tech

[potent echo]

A sane person will tell you sniper resist and maybe toughness regen

[silent chasm]

"tech"?

sorry I don't know much lingo

[nova dirge]

Sniper resist goes hard

[potent echo]

But sprint efficiency and revive speed

[still hearth]

Sometimes its good, most of the time its just there in case the game sends you 12 crushers

[silent chasm]

Nod nod.

[nova dirge]

Stops people from hitting you

[viscid matrix]

Why would we need toughness regen? We have so much of it available now

[silent chasm]

ngl I just like watching them go POP. I've giggled myself hoarse in about 5 totals hours of play with that thing.

[sterile saddle]

I honestly feel like swapping all my resistance nodes to snipers and flamers

[silent chasm]

aaah, nod.

[nova dirge]

Fr

[viscid matrix]

Flamers don’t do much damage, it’s the instant toughness loss that hurts

[silent chasm]

I just leave torsos and bloody stumps, it's like people salsa! Bribri likie.

[sterile saddle]

Warp flamers

They nuke hp

[cyan moss]

oh my god Assail is literally fantastic

its so graceful and elegant yet also so goddamn effective

and the sound???
im in love

[silent chasm]

Oh yea those not-flamerats suuuch.

[gusty tiger]

That with smite and watching everyone just wait for the needles to finish and bat at the headless baddies is entertaining lol

[potent echo]

That was pre 1.2.0 I guess

[nova dirge]

Im a voisdstrike man cuz i love balls

And its downright broken rn

[silent chasm]

I mean mood.

tho I can't say I know what voidstrike is

[sterile saddle]

Staff

[cyan moss]

trauma force all the way for me

[fluid knot]

Was the worst one, now the best one

[sterile saddle]

Bruh I've been running voidstrike since it was bad, that staff was slept on

[cyan moss]

big circle of Ouchie

[still hearth]

Using trauma now is really sad

[fluid knot]

Nah Trauma still has its place

[silent chasm]

Ah. So there's a bunch like Sienna. Mine is like... shooty energy blasts and make consecration pops? like Sienna's newest one.

[cyan moss]

trauma is still excellent

[silent chasm]

Ooh, yeah Trauma Force

[austere pulsar]

Anyone know if the new blitzes count towards the brain burst penances, or only brain burst (and its enhanced version)?

[fluid knot]

Its still second in line in the runnin

[still hearth]

The Staff coping is still har dI see

[sterile saddle]

Staff coping?

[silent chasm]

Staffs are just funner than the guns imo. And i've only used one

[cyan moss]

my needles/shards dont damage flak or carapace, but my trauma staff does like. 600+ damage for second attack, +25 damage for flak and carapace

[sterile saddle]

I'm saving money and plasteel for my gunpsyker

[silent chasm]

I'm here to be a Girlkissing Space Wizard and how can I do that without my Gay Stick?

[fluid knot]

I mean, if its not Purga you hate it, so we'll just ignore that

[still hearth]

And Voidstrike does 1400

[cyan moss]

JESUS

well

[silent chasm]

is.. is that a lot

[nova dirge]

Damn

[still hearth]

Voidstrike can two-shot crushers now

[silent chasm]

that sounds like Many Numbers

[fluid knot]

Yeup

[silent chasm]

noic

[nova dirge]

On a crit maybe

[still hearth]

It is absolutely overpowered lmao

[cyan moss]

my trauma two-shots crushers!

[fluid knot]

Voidstrike is S tier, an i hope it stays as such

[still hearth]

Mine does 1900 on weakspot crit

[cyan moss]

mayb i should try voidstrike. huh

[sterile saddle]

I can one shot them if I line it up right..>.> I use the 2 shot on crit blessing

[still hearth]

1300 on weakspot without crit

[fluid knot]

Only1900? Im hitting 2.2k on weakspot crit

[mental rock]

With surge blessing you can one hit crushers with void on a Crit. Although I guess it's technically two hits

[nova dirge]

I like how ogryn+zealot does like 26k

[still hearth]

Yeah I don't have carapace on my void sad

[sterile saddle]

Like raw?

[zinc phoenix]

I gotta believe void and surge damage were swapped because 😂

[fluid knot]

I havent actually tried Surge on it yes, still been rolling with the Blazing stick

[silent chasm]

What is Psykinetic's Wrath supposed to say? Mine says
<unlocalized "loc_talent_psyker_shout_ability_description": context.warpcharge_vent undefined>

[fluid knot]

Good to know tho

[nova dirge]

Ive got deimos for crushers

[still hearth]

Surge keeps being Surge

[zinc phoenix]

It’s supposed to say <unlocalized "loc_talent_psyker_shout_ability_description": context.warpcharge_vent undefined`

[fluid knot]

Arguably Surge is way better in this patch than it was before

[ionic needle]

Psykinetic's Wrath does a big pushback on enemies in front of you and quells some peril

[silent chasm]

nod

[nova dirge]

Maybe if ur insane

[silent chasm]

this makes we wish we had a techpriest/ess class now.

[zinc phoenix]

Also lights them on fire

[ionic needle]

I think it quells 25% of your current peril or something like that now

[silent chasm]

Oh, and what's a good melee? I've got a Wizard Stabber but I don't like the lack of wide cleave combos

[zinc phoenix]

For us it’d be servitor

[cyan moss]

surge is awful for crowd control, but fantastic for single enemies

[fluid knot]

Nah, it can actually kill things now, you want CC, there is a whole Blitz that does what Surge used to do

[zinc phoenix]

Void is the great obliterate

[ionic needle]

They really need to do something about the system they're using for localizing the strings haha

[cyan moss]

im obsessed with Illisi mk V blaze sword

[still hearth]

Yeah but the Void does both better

[nova dirge]

true

[fluid knot]

Smite could deffo use a buff tho, thats very also true

[zinc phoenix]

It’s so unreasonable how much domage void is doing

[ionic needle]

It would be fun if they buffed Smite not by increasing damage, but by increasing targets and range

[silent chasm]

I'd settle for a Skitarii who got in trouble with the priesthood for calling one of them an outdated slur for "toaster"?

[still hearth]

No no

Void is fine

Buff teh other staves

[silent chasm]

"Oi, krumbkatcha!" etc etc

[fluid knot]

But not Purga

[still hearth]

Holy shit Surge is so bad

[ionic needle]

Next patch we get the traitor commissar as a playable character

[fluid knot]

In all seriousness though, Purga could do with a modest stack cap increase

[silent chasm]

Kinetic or Seer's Presence?

[zinc phoenix]

Great at generating peril 😂

[still hearth]

That's true

Who thought this was fine

[silent chasm]

I wanna say Seer but it feels like Kinetic's the good one

[still hearth]

It doesn't kill anything it should kill

Why do I need two full charges to kill a gunner

[zinc phoenix]

Meanwhile void does more than surge but aoe and infinite range 😂

[still hearth]

And now staggers everything and hits bulwarks through shields

[zinc phoenix]

Of course

[fluid knot]

Well.. the AoE on Void has never been huge an still isnt

[zinc phoenix]

Bruh

It blends thru hordes and you can machine gun it

[thorn kestrel]

You guys need more flames

[still hearth]

The explosion isn't

But the piercing is

[fluid knot]

It was like that before oddball

[zinc phoenix]

Yes but it didn’t have 9000 damage before

[idle aurora]

The shards are so fun, i need to make the build around them

[still hearth]

I mean I think it got more cleave now

[fluid knot]

You just had to quell cancel it prior

[zinc phoenix]

I did 😂

But now it’s easy to machine gun the baddies with the nuke stick

[fluid knot]

Yeah im not sure what the deal is with the cleave because sometimes it would cap at 6 in the old version, an sometimes would uncap itself, so either the 6 limit was a bug, or the infinite cleave was a bug they just rolled with in the new patch, hard to say

[zinc phoenix]

Like why is the easiest to use stick also the best in every category

[fluid knot]

Its much easier to use now for sure, wasnt so much before this patch

[languid tusk]

best perks / blessings for void ?

im going all in, trying to craft the perfect void

[still hearth]

Surge and Crit probably

Actually

[fluid knot]

Personally I rate Blazing/Nexus, but Surge/Nexus is probably best now

[still hearth]

Surge and Charge speed

Because you should always have crits for free

[languid tusk]

is there any damage type i want for perks ? carapace maybe ?

[still hearth]

Getting a crit every 5 weakspot hits on a weapon with cleave lmao

[fluid knot]

It already charges super fast, i wouldnt waste the slot when you can just have more damage

There is still also a case for Transfer Peril i guess

[still hearth]

Surge definitely though

And the 5 weakspots = crit

[fluid knot]

Crit chance/Carapace is probably the move yeah, Unyielding too tho, as it can kill bosses now

[still hearth]

Talent

[languid tusk]

unfortunately got 1 bad locked perk, is this good enough ?

[still zinc]

I have a question - I think it's a legit one

[still hearth]

Surge is the OP blessing

But I use one without it

Because this weapon is stupid

Because I don't have Surge

[still zinc]

Is there a 'core' build that all other builds will start from?

[fluid knot]

Its funny to me, because if you'd have said that a week ago someone would have complained about Surge firing into walls (which was very rare to actually happen)

[pallid wasp]

I had a surge warp nexus made before the update

the difference is crazy now

[still hearth]

I mean vaguely.

Most builds take similar toughness regen stuff

But other than that not really

[still zinc]

I have only been playing a few weeks so I was just starting to get my head around the meta before all this happened

[still hearth]

I think almost all builds run Quititide and Soulstealer

[still zinc]

I have noticed that lots of people seem to like assail and the shield

[still hearth]

Assail is imo the best one for most builds

[still zinc]

How about all the toughness regen bumps?

[still hearth]

Which ones are you talking about?

[thorn kestrel]

stares in Purgatus

[still zinc]

Oops, I mean the Toughness effects. There's Toughness damage reduction and toughness regen abilities scattered all over the place

[still hearth]

I said what I said

[thorn kestrel]

Then you shall die

[still zinc]

Ahahaha

[still hearth]

If you crit: take the crit ones
If you don't crit: take then warp ones
If you don't do warp stuff: idk what you're doing

Though I take all of them on crit too

[still zinc]

Why would you not want to crit?

[late yew]

post your build @feral inlet

[still hearth]

Some builds don't crit

[whole oxide]

some weapons, the difference between crit and non-crit is fairly small, so not worth investing in to

[still hearth]

For assail I just take everything except Warp Expenditure

Basically all the top nodes

[still zinc]

Ahhhhh

[ionic needle]

Anyone know if there's an online build planner for the new patch out there yet?

[still zinc]

I think what I need is a build to start with. Cause I will probably make some janky thing

[whole oxide]

tbh, with builds, just think about which Blitz and which Ult you want, everything else is just nice extras

[still zinc]

And end up a burden to my team. I don't want that, as I try to be a team player.

[still hearth]

Run with Voidstrike and Duellingsword

Spam Assail for fun

[still zinc]

I want them alllll

[still hearth]

Easy

[ionic needle]

The capstone is really important too though

[olive ember]

Tried disrupt destiny out and noticed that I had trouble upkeeping stacks in a real game, especially if the team was good and was just killing shit. I ended up swapping over to empowered pscionics cuz that procs consistently on elite kill

[zinc phoenix]

Or you could do empowered smite with purgatus and walk thru the level indifferent to enemies carrying the entire team

[still zinc]

Ahh Jum! You are a scholar and a gentleman.

[late yew]

and headshot talent literally not working at all

[zinc phoenix]

Don’t even need to worry about the other traits, just hold that left click and watch all the things stand still forever

[still hearth]

Made me throw up a bit in my mouth

[feral inlet]

[late yew]

I don't really see synergy between soulblaze and smite...

[feral inlet]

i just had surge equipped on

i run it with purgatus

[late yew]

How that exactly works

[feral inlet]

it mostly helps in mutie maelstorms if anything by applying a couple soulblaze stacks to them and then smiting all of them

[sterile saddle]

It bugged last foeva

[zinc phoenix]

Empower is bugged with smite so you get infinite duration zero peril

[still hearth]

There is none.

[zinc phoenix]

Stunning everything all the time

[still hearth]

The best part is that it still feels pretty bad to me

Even with infinite smite up it still doesn't do enough

[late yew]

yes, that i know

[still hearth]

If its going to do 0 damage at least let me stun like 30 targets

[zinc phoenix]

😂 I’d rather it be a single click and it lasts X

[late yew]

i was asking about purg

[zinc phoenix]

Oh purg is just there to farm empower

[fallow meadow]

It is the best cc, that's all

[zinc phoenix]

It seems to trigger loads of it

[cinder moon]

it's entertaining and it still stunlocks pretty much everything, so, good enough for me

you can also keep it going literally forever if you chain dodge and never get hit

[zinc phoenix]

Way too many psyker abilities are just “hold down mouse”

[cinder moon]

nice change of pace from having to pinpoint heads across the room witha plasma

[late yew]

How stunning literally every enemy is not enough

[zinc phoenix]

Plasma is fun tho 😂

[still hearth]

It hits like 8 guys

[fallow meadow]

Everything is charge attack

[still hearth]

And only in a cone in front of you

[sterile saddle]

Plasma?

[late yew]

... are you high

[cinder moon]

i literally can't not play plasma when i play vet, it's an addiction now

[late yew]

it hits easily 20+

actually more

just hold right click

[fallow meadow]

Charge it up first

[late yew]

forget left click exists

[still hearth]

It literally

[zinc phoenix]

It hits way more than that with empower, I’ve had it stun entire hordes across the massive long zones

[still hearth]

Hits 6 people

[zinc phoenix]

It jumps from baddy to baddy

It will go thru infinite number

The in front of you is true tho

[still hearth]

Ah nvm

You just have to have them all lined up

[zinc phoenix]

And getting patted on the back breaks it

Which is really bad when you have a dozen crushers and a couple muties or something ridic 😂

[still hearth]

The jump distance is just so short

[cinder moon]

all you have to do is turn around for literally 1 second while holding smite and whoever was gonna backpat you is now doing a jig

[still hearth]

And the other ones aren't

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah but it’s like the doctor who angels, as soon as you turn again they’re moving

[mellow gorge]

God weeping angels are creepy

[zinc phoenix]

My wife saw that episode and was like “I’m out” we haven’t watched doctor who since 😂

[mellow gorge]

Also one of yhr most interesting creature designs I've ever seen

[fathom acorn]

whats the best perks for a purgatus staff?

[zinc phoenix]

It’s basically the empowered smite abuser gameplay rn

[still hearth]

Unyielding and Crit probably.

[zinc phoenix]

I had a couple teams collapse because they let me get clapped on the back and the entire zone started moving at once 😂

[cinder moon]

the worst

[still hearth]

I feel like this patch somehow

One enemy always gets past my team

Constantly

And hits me in the back

[cinder moon]

set up dome, stunlock as many melee units as possible, zealot still runs out into the ranged guys and gets shrekt

[still hearth]

No matter what is happening

[cinder moon]

then 1 poxwalker hits me and everything turns to shambles

[zinc phoenix]

“Anywhere you go anything you do I’ll be clappin youoooou”

[honest frigate]

Cause the game is designed to always spawn a few in your back for some stupid reason

Youre not alone, LOL

[cinder moon]

the game's been extra abusive with spawning in units right next to you/in plain view with this patch, it feels like beta again

i don't mind monster closets, overhangs, etc, but literally popping them into thin air really gets my goat

[mellow gorge]

Had a whole ass horde climb out of thr floor yesterday

[still hearth]

No but literally my team is behind and in front of me

And one random melee dude just

[orchid nest]

yeah I've had specials rush out of doorways with much less warning than before too

[still hearth]

Runs past the other teammates

To hit my ass

[mellow gorge]

Got like 55 streak with the purgatatus

[honest frigate]

Its just nurgle magic

Its excusable

[cinder moon]

i don't mind wallbanging monster closets from safety just because of how much of a dick nurgle is

[sterile saddle]

Bro I had my back to a freaking wall and a crusher climbed up from the ground like it was a cliff and nerfed my class in a hallway full of mobs

[honest frigate]

XD

[cinder moon]

did you know crushers are distant cousins of cats, and they can flatten their entire skeleton to fit through 1 inch gaps?

[sterile saddle]

I do now

[honest frigate]

She crusher on my reject till i combat ability

[sterile saddle]

I mean my ogryn clutched me back up, after the first crusher like 4 more rolled in from the doorway and I had to spam voidstaff, nearly exploded XD

[cinder moon]

stuff like that is why i never want to try scrier's again lol

love force push/smite

[sterile saddle]

I don't have good ranged weapons yet

Been running stick for so long

[cinder moon]

i ended up falling in love with a weird revolver/AB/WnR/dueling sword loadout before the patch; it's even stronger now

[willow escarp]

beating 6 crushers to death as ogryn is great

[sterile saddle]

Yeah ogryns got massive buff

They don't just meat shield and res now

[mellow gorge]

Between pysker and ogryn, definitely having more fun as the bug guy

Not even just gun lugger either

[cinder moon]

rock not being a total waste of a grenade is super nice

[sterile saddle]

Although the taunt ability is goated

They just plant their shield and laff

[cinder moon]

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-darktide-ryback-gif-27166387

[mellow gorge]

I can't vibe with taunt, need to spend more time with it

[sterile saddle]

I usually drop a psyker shield on top of them so they can't get naked or flamed

Naded

[cinder moon]

i've been enjoying taunt with shield/GG, finally feels like what i wanted out of that combo before

[mellow gorge]

Something I did notice about psyk bubble

[honest frigate]

... naked?

[cinder moon]

also having infinite rocks is so fucking good

[sterile saddle]

Lol naded

[mellow gorge]

Fire nades can pass through it

If they land at thr edge

[sterile saddle]

The fire doesnt

[cinder moon]

not a big fan of the bubble casting where you look

[sterile saddle]

The grenade can

But u get 2 charges

[mellow gorge]

This has been inconsistent, sometimes the nade passes through and thr fire disappears, sometime the nade bounces off and fire rolls through thr shield

Sometimes the nade disappears completely

[sterile saddle]

Really?

[mellow gorge]

Yeah

[sterile saddle]

I usually see the grenade go through

[plain hill]

wtf is this

[sterile saddle]

I typically wait till it lands and drop.shield

U gotta verify files bud

Or reinstall

Are you using mods?

[plain hill]

nah

just freshly installed

[mellow gorge]

Alot of stuff is like it

And not even consistent across players

[sterile saddle]

I had that for one or two of my zealot weapon blessings

[formal hill]

https://streamable.com/6v2ach first Psyker game lmao

[untold meteor]

so uh

are we all gods now?

[formal hill]

Smite has become my immediate favorite

[untold meteor]

cuz it feels like

we are crushing ants

[wild sable]

Has anyone submitted a report on smite right click not working correctly

[formal hill]

Hold right and left click at the same time, let go of any of them to do a push

[untold meteor]

I'm using a voidstrike with surge with the soulblaze talents

and on hi shock everything is on fire

while I'm untouchable with perma dodging in scrier

[wild sable]

Its not the push thats broken its the damage not increasing correctly on charge

[sterile saddle]

Has anyone check the BB timers? Does shriek and EP actually make it faster?

It feels slow..

[formal hill]

I use empowered psionics with it, feels fine

[wild sable]

The description says "high damage" but it functions and ticks about the same as basic cast version

[sterile saddle]

It takes like 6 seconds to BB with the tool tip texts fully buffed it should drop to 2

Maybe even 1.75

[formal hill]

It says high impact doesn't it?

[zinc phoenix]

Wdym not working correctly?

OIC

[formal hill]

Fatshark should let us use your G at in our offhand while we use the Cavalry Saber

As the Alternate attack

[wild sable]

Charge doesnt actually change the lightning correctly

[sand cove]

Can't wait for the shard nerf lol

[olive ember]

dunno why people think shards are that OP tbh

it does its job and it does its job well

otherwise its just a weaker BB if it didn't do damage

[formal hill]

I do more damage with smite than the other psykers do with with shards

[wild sable]

Well maybe i need to test it more but it didnt feel like a damage increase
That and the obvious ongoing bug with empower not working correctly

[late yew]

Totally 8 guys on the screen

[late yew]

I would say BB better for bosses and carapace. Shards better agaisnt everything else

otherwise that kinda do same role

[wild sable]

For the record im not saying smite bad, im saying right click seems to be bugged in terms of what its intended functionality

[late yew]

meaning?

yeah, right click is left click but with inifinte cleave

and left click is useless

And i hope they keep empower thing lol

[formal hill]

Left click is oh shit button

[late yew]

Without empower bug smite will be really bad

[formal hill]

I don't think its a bug

[river sand]

i really wanna like smite, but the damage is sooooo low

[wild sable]

Empower desc might be wrong

[wild sable]

Left click is meant to be cc, with a coordinated group its really good

[river sand]

empowered shards, with void as backup for the big guys is the way to go atm

[late yew]

Btw, beefed up enemies are realyl felt with Deimos

Deimos now feels kinda bad

[late yew]

because its purpose is not damage, it is to stun

but

against hordes damage actually gets decent

[river sand]

but why stun when you can kill ?

[late yew]

Since you hit 40 enemies at once

[late yew]

because you can't kill as fast as you can stun

[wild sable]

Because thats what your teams if for

[fallow meadow]

CC is very good, but as the long running topic, CC is not going to win the game for you.

[willow escarp]

smite great for dogs/mutants

[formal hill]

https://streamable.com/6v2ach

[late yew]

If you specifically want staff to deal with big enemies, better take surge,. not void

[wild sable]

Lockdown on a big horde can save the team from a big ambush

[formal hill]

Example of the right click stunning a horde

[snow coral]

Shards with a rending revolver is crazy. Shards seem to benefit from rending, so a bug but a lot of fun right now. It's actually made me set aside my void.

[late yew]

Actually locking down army of crushers or ragers is even better

makes those basically harmless

[river sand]

lol no, void oneshots crushers

[late yew]

even if they appear during horde

in other words

[willow escarp]

of all the Psyker load outs I’ve had as team mates so far this has been the best. Dome shield and lightning hands, idk what their weapon even was but we were able to get through anything

[late yew]

smite is something that works the better the higher difficulty and the more BS on the screen

without smite you won't be able to survive 10 crushers + 6 specials + horde + ragers

[willow escarp]

forgot the chaos spawn

[late yew]

Oh yes

[willow escarp]

and 3 loose dogs heheh

[late yew]

Basically smite can hold ALL of that except monster

[empty obsidian]

the assail bolt seems to target the enemies you aim at whilst quelling, anyone know more about that? since it doesent say in the description

[willow escarp]

with the bubble shield it’s way easier to pick off the 5 dreg gunners laying down fire during all that too

[sly thunder]

The Assail Bolt just sorta flies towards enemies near your crosshair period.

[river sand]

thats what you get out of empowered shards with void. (auric maelstrom)

[snow coral]

It follows your cursor while on screen

[empty obsidian]

only whilst quelling tho, right?

atleast thats what i seems like

[snow coral]

No, always

[sly thunder]

Always

[empty obsidian]

weird, i gotta do some more testing

seems like you guys are right, good to know ty

[snow coral]

Isn't auric only 4/5?

[late yew]

And?

[formal hill]

We dont use our weapons

[snow coral]

You said maelstrom which I thought was 3, then I remembered that's Malice, lol

Thought I missed something else in the update

[wise cave]

Hey, I need some quick help get the final achievement missing forme: Going Out With a Bang. What's the best build atm to achieve that? And would someone be up for a quick run to help me?

[formal hill]

Auric Maelstorm is where the smite Psykers go

[snow coral]

Play high shock and blow yourself up

[wise cave]

High Shock?

[willow escarp]

that’s gotta be one of the easiest to get

didn’t they increase the psyker explosion too?

[late yew]

maelstorm is modificator, not difficulty

[honest frigate]

They probably mean shock troop gauntlet

[wise cave]

I have no clue about all the new stuff

[willow hazel]

Void strike just deletes all of those. Why do we care about stunning?

[snow coral]

Yeah I remembered after I typed that, lol. It's early, only half a cup of coffee intake so far

[wise cave]

havent really played since the first month

[cyan portal]

Any other purga enjoyers feeling entirely op?

[honest frigate]

Its a mission modifier, same like stuff as high intensity

[snow coral]

Hi shock has been around for a while, I suggest playing a bit to figure out what's new

[wise cave]

So the Surge Force Staff or what?

[honest frigate]

Hes so confused

[wise cave]

oh, now i see

[snow coral]

Yup

Go. Play. The game

[wise cave]

chat didnt load in completely

[final bay]

How we feeling about Smite, anyway? Wish I could figure out a way to get the damage higher, it's fun to grape things. I go back and forth on if CC matters at all if the alternative is just murdering it all.

[wise cave]

my bad

[honest frigate]

Smite is okay but i wish it cost less peril at the LEAST. Ideally it should have a slight damage buff too but who knows

The spread amount seems to be good

[cinder moon]

bro, just get empowered psionics with smite

you can cast it literally forever with at least 1 stack

[honest frigate]

That seems to be a bug

[cinder moon]

maybe, but the other two blitzes get -100% peril reduction, so i feel like it should be intended

[honest frigate]

Either way

[cinder moon]

it's also pretty limiting unless you know what you're doing

[honest frigate]

The 30 percent damage increase on empowered smite is too low

[final bay]

Considering we can't keep it up forever it's not that big of a bonus from the 24% of warp charges, yeah

[still zinc]

Blessings/perks on duelling sword thoughts?

Riposte?

[sterile saddle]

I use force sword so I can't help u

[formal hill]

I feel like it's inteded but just a localization error

[still zinc]

I have been using force sword with deflector

[sterile saddle]

I use that 100% crit thing

[digital narwhal]

I keep getting Psykers who are so shard happy they kill Poxbursters right in front of me.

[sterile saddle]

Oof

[still zinc]

.<

[sterile saddle]

I get pubs that don't know u can tip the busters over

[digital narwhal]

They said it was my fault for standing there.

[sterile saddle]

They keep shooting as it gets close

I'm like noooo

I run shield now

[still zinc]

Tip it over?

[sterile saddle]

When u hear the ping you push it

And it's like kicking a vollyball

[still zinc]

Like cow tipping, but more dangerous.

[sterile saddle]

I mean, even if u don't hear the ping, you can still push it lol

[still zinc]

I'm going to try that! Nice 'tip'

[sterile saddle]

Lol

[tropic scarab]

How are all you Yondu players today?

[sterile saddle]

I do enjoy the arrows

[still zinc]

I have to admit, it's satisfying

[sterile saddle]

But I'm more excited for gun psyker

I will be creating a viable Las pistol gun mage

Just wait.

[austere pulsar]

Anyone got any suggestions for what I can tweak on this to improve it?

[sterile saddle]

The laspistol. Will rise.

[olive ember]

the other two blitzes get 100% peril reduction because they are a one time use thing (one BB or one knife throw) whereas smite is an infinite duration channel thats limited by peril buildup

so no

[fallow meadow]

What make chained melee so special after update?

[olive ember]

smite shouldn't have 100% peril reduction because that makes zero sense

[sterile saddle]

Wow

[sterile saddle]

Dis nife nice

[fluid knot]

Its a bug Derpy

[austere pulsar]

Probably one of my best rolls across all my characters yeah

[olive ember]

probably replace one of the blessings with uncanny, and one of the perks with one of the +damage types

[olive ember]

it obviously is

but some people think its intended?

[sterile saddle]

I'd probably add crit dmg instead of elite dmg tho, since it's nice and fat

[fluid knot]

Really? jfc

[austere pulsar]

It already has crit damage

[sterile saddle]

Oh shiz I missed that

[agile acorn]

needed to be said

[compact spindle]

It still holds up

[final bay]

Do weapon stats impact blitz damage at all?

[still hearth]

Only if you have them out when it hits things

[turbid thistle]

zealot player trying psyker; do any weapon perks/blessings apply to G?

[sterile saddle]

Yes, if ur weapon is equipped the blessings can help

[still hearth]

So basically only for Assail and you need to swap before it hits

[austere pulsar]

Thanks. I'll try to snag a higher uncanny blessing if I see it in store

[sharp urchin]

Assail is kinda op isnt it?

[sterile saddle]

Very strong

[still hearth]

Only slightly strong

[sharp urchin]

i see them every game

[turbid thistle]

its op on mid level missions; less powerful beyond malice

[sharp urchin]

ah, that explains it. Been playing alot of mid level to get xp

might got to Malice

[sterile saddle]

Idk I use mine in heresy and damnation

Haven't gone auric yet..

[sharp urchin]

i like Smite for the stagger

[spice veldt]

yeah the assail is pretty overtuned

[sterile saddle]

I use the shields for stagger

[spice veldt]

still very strong at damnation

[turbid thistle]

smite stagger seems really good on damnation

[olive ember]

Eh idk how they would tweak assail since its whole thing is that its multi target anti elite

[still hearth]

It would be if you couldn't just

Kill things

[sharp urchin]

I like the stagger on Smite, it helps give some breathing room if things go south

[sterile saddle]

Yeah

[spice veldt]

lower the cleave on it

[sterile saddle]

I wish I had shout on occasion for that

[spice veldt]

it should not be able to cleave 3 specials lamayo

or 3-5 groaners/poxwalkers

and make the aim assist less lenient

[olive ember]

it can only cleave 3 targets

[sterile saddle]

It only peirces one target as far as I know

[olive ember]

I mean i guess they could make it down to two

but

[spice veldt]

if you take ethereal shards, it bumps that up

[still hearth]

30 targets per full load + regen + EP

[spice veldt]

assail hordeclear is not a meme

[still hearth]

The only reason I can see to use BB and Smite are

[olive ember]

I mean i guess you can make assail not pierce by default and then make it so the upgrade lets it hit 2

[still hearth]

You like them more I guess

[forest iris]

Hi! New to Psyker, what should I do with this staff? The charge up time seems pretty long, often times the enemies are already dead before I hit them. Also power wise? I want to play Auric missions in the near future.

[sterile saddle]

Good for keeping ur toughness up when u get ambushed or dragged out of ur team by a multi too

[olive ember]

btw is it still supposed to be nexus + surge or is flurry + surge better

[formal hill]

It is, as somone who only plays Auric maelstrom only thing you cant stun are green boys

[forest iris]

I just reached lvl 30 yesterday night

[sterile saddle]

Launch five or six, swap to sword and push back to your tram

Team

[spice veldt]

3 targets yeah https://streamable.com/76pw01

[still hearth]

You charge RMB and shoot it at things.

And they die

[spice veldt]

i assume that some people haven't realized that you need to hover your mouse over enemies for the shards to lock onto them

[olive ember]

should just lower ammo capacity honestly

I feel like that would fix the issue

[spice veldt]

true

[late yew]

yep, i did not

[olive ember]

make it so you can only carry 5 knives or wte

[forest iris]

But what are good perks and blessings for the Voidstrike staff?

[sharp urchin]

yeah, from 10 to 5

[late yew]

or just slow regen time

[olive ember]

that way when you use it it still feels nice but you can't just spam the ever loving shit out of it and kill everything

[sharp urchin]

and up its recharge rate

[still hearth]

Surge blessing and run the crit per 5 weakspots

Then perks you do whatever

[late yew]

no, that won't fix the issue

[still hearth]

Probably Unyielding and Carapace now

[late yew]

Better keep the amount

but reduce reload

[forest iris]

Okay, thanks!

[still hearth]

Sustained Fire is really bad so def remove that

[forest iris]

Should I keep

Ah ok ^^

[sly thunder]

Is Kinetic Deflection still a go-to?

[still hearth]

You can hit bulwarks through their shield with Voidstrike

[forest iris]

I didnt know that!

[still hearth]

It's nice but it was never necessary, it was just the best out of the options imo.

[plucky creek]

Assail is like the whistling arrow from guardian of the galaxy and I love it

[forest iris]

Also whats the best way to get a Surge blessing?

[still hearth]

Probably buy lots of voidstrikes and upgrade them to T2.

[forest iris]

okay!

[forest iris]

Thanks 🙂

[ionic needle]

I wish the assail charge attack launched several of them at once or combined them into a bigger one

[spice veldt]

prob change the RMB to something like that

[broken quail]

50% radius for own coherency aura. Does this extend range for psyker to get toughness regen for allies? Or is it a give and not get ability that will only extend range for allies to get own buff?

[spice veldt]

since you basically never use the RMB unless you're short on charges

[late yew]

Can assail crit?

[plucky creek]

I wish it would do that as the charge throw or something

[spice veldt]

ye

[broken quail]

Yes

[late yew]

did anyone at all try the crit ult

[ionic needle]

Would be awesome to charge for ~6 seconds and snipe a crusher from across the map

[spice veldt]

scrier's gaze is whatever

[late yew]

hmmm

[spice veldt]

I only used it to dink down crushers/maulers or for bosses

[broken quail]

gaze is only fun with a horde clear weapen when they show up. Enough kills to get decent uptime

[still hearth]

Scrier just feels underwhelming and annoying to handle

Unless you're going full no-warp

[spice veldt]

better to go for the shield even if you don't care about ranged enemies, since it'll also block flames

shutting down flamers for a few seconds is a nice utility to have

[ionic needle]

I like when I put it down just in range for a few shotgunners to stand outside of it trying to shoot me

[kind jay]

i think my favorite so far is shield/assail/warp charges

[honest frigate]

Why are people coping about Assail? Just lower the peril cost on smite a little, maybe bump the damage, and Psyker's blitz abilities end up pretty fine

[sterile saddle]

I use it to give my team mates windows

[kind jay]

with deimos/illy + surge

[late yew]

Gun?

[honest frigate]

Assail is such a comfortable change of playstyle

[still hearth]

Yeah

[honest frigate]

Im lowkey tired of all the staves

[still hearth]

Yeah lower it by like 90%

[ionic needle]

Chainsword/Shredder with Scrier would be cool to try

[spice veldt]

it is absolutely overtuned

[lament topaz]

Then don’t use the staves?

[whole oxide]

can Blitz not trigger Enhanced Psionics on kill?

[lament topaz]

^

[honest frigate]

Purgatus can do the same shit

[late yew]

It can

[lament topaz]

I’m level 20 top score boarding on damnation

[whole oxide]

well, it isn't for BR

[honest frigate]

What role do you want Assail to take if not the one it already does

[lament topaz]

Using only assail

[spice veldt]

the same, but less than what it currently has

[honest frigate]

Why

[ionic needle]

I hope they don't nerf it too hard, I like using the new things and going back to BB would just feel kind of meh

[lament topaz]

It’s too good

[spice veldt]

because it's quite strong?

[late yew]

Just reduce its rechartge speed

so it is not good against hordes

[spice veldt]

even if you compare it to straight up ranged weapons, it's rather quite competitive

[late yew]

and it will be fine

[spice veldt]

and you get this by clicking a button and waving your mouse around

[lament topaz]

I do better than my level 30+ team on damnation with a buncha funny rocks

[spice veldt]

it's highly effective even if you put minimal effort into your gameplay

[lament topaz]

On level 20

[spice veldt]

it is analogous to the pre-patch pinning fire autopistol

[honest frigate]

Its fun

[spice veldt]

I agree that it's fun

[sterile saddle]

I can get higher than level 30?

[lament topaz]

I use it to be a combat Psyker

[spice veldt]

and it will remain fun even if it gets nerfed (probably)

[lament topaz]

It won’t show but yes

[late yew]

Autopistol was never fun

[cinder moon]

by comparison, permanent smite requires you to dodge slide everywhere or give up stacks

[spice veldt]

but that's no reason to let an overtuned ass weapon to remain the way it is

[sterile saddle]

O

[spice veldt]

besides, several playtesters have remarked on it being overtuned as shit

so it's going to get the nerf hammer

[lament topaz]

Bro IM saying it’s overtuned

I just realized arco won’t know who I am cause he’s not in zealot chat often enough

[late yew]

my only wish that smite keeps no peril when empowered

[cinder moon]

side note, finally tried scrier's with purgatus crit build and hoo-boy

[still hearth]

It is awful to use it that way though

Just make it cost less in general

[late yew]

And who you are?

I am often in zealot chat

[still hearth]

Especially when you're just stun locking people.

[lament topaz]

Mort

[late yew]

What do you mean awful...

[still hearth]

I love walking at negative speed and slowly dodging around the map

[sterile saddle]

Feels dirty to Palpatine mobs

[late yew]

literal skill issue

Just hug a wall

[lament topaz]

I didn’t like bio

[still hearth]

Okay mr Salty

Stay mad

[sterile saddle]

Makes me feel like my skin is wrinkling

[still hearth]

[lament topaz]

Now if someone else uses bio and I have my rocks then it’s great

[sterile saddle]

Bio?

[boreal wave]

Is the surge staff behaving the way it's supposed to? This thing is charging instantly and killing very well.

[lament topaz]

Biolightning

[lament topaz]

Who knows with these motherfuckers

[still hearth]

Killing moderately well*

[sterile saddle]

What is biolightning?

[lament topaz]

Palpatine

[boreal wave]

Like, it's even killing unarmored trash exceptionally well on damnation.

[still hearth]

Surge staff users need to relax.

[lavish comet]

Blitz Ability for massive CC

[turbid thistle]

hmmm i cant tell if perks/blessings apply to blitz

[sterile saddle]

O the zmite?

[still hearth]

Only for Assail if you swap to the weapon

[lavish comet]

Or if you use a Bug it is "Unlimited Power"

[lament topaz]

The lightning from your hands

[sterile saddle]

Yeah

[turbid thistle]

that seems underwhelming

[forest iris]

I now crafted 25 blue voidstrike staffs. Are you sure a blessing called "Surge" exists?^^ Also what do you think about Warp Nexus?

[sterile saddle]

Warp nexus gud

[boreal wave]

Yeah I don't quite get the dichotomy between smite and surge staff. Smite just seems kind of lame.

[sterile saddle]

Surge gud too

[manic halo]

Surge exists don’t worry

I’ve got it on my staff

[forest iris]

What does it do?

[still hearth]

It shoots two balls on crits

[manic halo]

It makes you shoot twice when u critical hit

[forest iris]

noice

[lament topaz]

Hehe balls

[sterile saddle]

Is op

[still hearth]

And you can get infinite crits

So its pretty good

[meager pecan]

revolver gun-psyker with assail and venting screech or whatever its called is now my favourite build

[sterile saddle]

I have nexus and surge on my stick

[forest iris]

I can buy three more staffs, wish me luck!

[sterile saddle]

GL

[forest iris]

How?

[lament topaz]

You grab the thing that gives you damage for having high peril?

[still hearth]

There's a node that gives you a ranged crit every 5 weakspot hits

And Voidstrike cleaves through most enemies

[forest iris]

Ahhhh

[manic halo]

Only bother leveling the higher level staffs you get higher level = higher level blessings

[still hearth]

And then you get two balls which also cleave through enemies

[meager pecan]

i think so

[forest iris]

That sounds very lovely

[sterile saddle]

Shoot voidball at head level, repeat

[lament topaz]

Should be under shriek

[forest iris]

very good. Back to crafting for me!

[meager pecan]

ill take a quick look

[still hearth]

It's the first of the middle keystone node section.

[late yew]

But you know

[sterile saddle]

And if u get an illusi sword with the skill power kill makes 100% crit chance u can swap and pew staff

[late yew]

psyker finally feels like actual psyker

and not just a guy with a weird staff

[sterile saddle]

Lulz

Still weird guy with stick tho

[fresh reef]

after actually playing Assail in a level higher than Uprising, I retract saying it's busted and needs nerfs

[meager pecan]

warp rider? got that

[lament topaz]

Brother I topped the scoreboard in damnation at level 20 with assail

It needs nerfed

It is horribly overtuned

[still hearth]

It is busted and needs a nerf.

[quasi pier]

I just think they need to regenerate quite a bit more slowly

[meager pecan]

i dont

they're great as they are thanks

[lament topaz]

That’s the problem, they’re too good

[whole oxide]

ehhh, they're kinda strong, but i wouldn't say they're significantly more crazy than all the other stuff around atm

[spice veldt]

i'd set a hard cap of 2 targets, somewhere in the range of 7-3 max ammo, and/or slower regen

someone also remarked about making it so that picking ethereal shards locks out the other one and so on

[lament topaz]

I can horde clear better than an ulting gunlugga Ogryn

[spice veldt]

i'd also make it so that you can't cleave 3 specials/elites (unless you hit carapace)

[lament topaz]

With a browning

[spice veldt]

since you can hit a mutant and 2 other targets with a single shard

[sterile saddle]

It depends a lot on the user too tho

U can easily just move ur mouse and hit the floor

[lament topaz]

Literally the only time I struggle with shards is when they have armor and then I just throw more shards

[spice veldt]

the pro hidden strat is to wave your mouse wildly

this is not a joke

[quasi pier]

You can't balance something based on the worst possible user in this game

[lament topaz]

Does it follow mouse?

[meager pecan]

switch to flak and carapace piercing revolver

[plucky creek]

On console it just auto targets if it’s near anyone or you’re not locked on

[snow coral]

Shards are fun, but I do think they're a bit overtuned, we ran an auric 5 last night and it felt more like a regular hi 5. psyker with smite and dome, me with revolver and shards. ogryn and vet with their stuff.

[spice veldt]

it locks onto the targets that your mouse is over

[still hearth]

I bring a Voidstrike to backup my Assail

[lament topaz]

I would not be surprised if that’s what they do

[lament topaz]

Oh no shit?

[spice veldt]

as far as I can tell, when shards are within a certain range of an enemy and your mouse is over/near them, it will home onto them

[bleak tulip]

can corroborate

[snow coral]

yeah shards home at close range, I just kinda wiggle my cursor over a horde to clear it

[lament topaz]

It felt like they were random as shit to me

[snow coral]

and right click to snipe far off enemies

[spice veldt]

yeah the initial throw is completely random

[lament topaz]

Maybe that’s how they could get nerfed? They go in random directions and hit random enemies?

[spice veldt]

and if enemies are too far away for the shard to go near them with the random movement, then you won't lock onto them at all

[spice veldt]

prob won't be as fun of a change because of the non-deterministic nature of such a change

[ionic needle]

I think just lowering the ammo cap and recharge speed would be way enough

[lament topaz]

My Psyker is schizophrenic you really think he’s gonna know where the hell them things are going

[spice veldt]

the other problem is that Empowering Psionics exists

[ionic needle]

The issue now is that you can go an entire run without using anything else, that wasn't even a thing when shredder was peak busted

[lament topaz]

This

I have done this three times in a row

[lavish comet]

they should reduce the peril reduction on both smite an assail by 50% for EP

[lament topaz]

We’ll see how they do it

[ionic needle]

Switching weapons to fit different situations is kind of a core part of the game and when something breaks that it quite obviously needs to be changed

[snow coral]

yeah I've done entire runs with shards, them with EP is really strong

[spice veldt]

fatshark once again implementing a weapon with high effectiveness while requiring near zero mechanical skill 😔

[snow coral]

yeah, it's def easy (but fun) mode

[plucky flax]

Any bb bro still around?

[spice veldt]

true

i will absolutely be abusing it

god bless

[snow coral]

I tried a BB high peril build and it doesn't feel nearly as fun as before, especially with the warp charge changes

[sterile saddle]

BB feels slower

[snow coral]

Maybe shards get an ammo cap, and don't replenish until you blitz?

[sterile saddle]

Even buffed it still feels slow for some reason

[forest iris]

Well thanks everyone for the help... I sold everything and just spent 9000 plasteel and I dont know much gold on trying to get Surge, but it didnt happen.

[still hearth]

It was always slow

[noble trellis]

I have to imagine it'll be psionics that'll get changed eventually, not shards
they're alright but not amazing on their own

[quasi pier]

True, I'll enjoy while it's ridiculoua and be happy when it's brought back to earth

[sterile saddle]

The best rolls are hard to get

[forest iris]

Got this though, so ill be using this until I get Surge

[spice veldt]

yeah, it's a t4-only blessing so it'll be quite hard to get

[forest iris]

Ahhhhh

[lament topaz]

Haven’t used it yet but it might be fun

[snow coral]

I think even if they tone it down assail rending revolver is a lot of fun and seems like it can handle just about anything

[ionic needle]

Surge is difficult to get, make sure you do Melks missions and check in every day. Sometimes he has it, or other blessings you want, in the shop.

[forest iris]

Will do. Whats a good substituiton for Surge?

[snow coral]

Does Sustained work on staffs since they are 'one shots'? or is that still considered a salvo?

[sterile saddle]

Chargr speed?

[quasi pier]

Surge took me roughly 400k gold and maybe 20k plasteel to get yesterday

[spice owl]

Any standout scrier's gaze uses with gunker.

?

[sterile saddle]

Not yet

[zinc phoenix]

I mean… that’s literally all of psyker rn

[forest iris]

Wow

[cyan moth]

man this new class system is good

[zinc phoenix]

The mechanical skill to play basically any psyker build rn is so close to zero as to beggar belief

[cyan moth]

whats the best alt for psyker?

shield i imagine?

[bleak tulip]

we're back to the old days, BB bad again

[zinc phoenix]

Le dome

[cyan moth]

can you like, cast and walk with it?

[spice veldt]

yeah, we're saying the same thing?

[cyan moth]

or is it a stationary thing

[snow coral]

I don't know that BB is bad, it's just that the other options are broken/fun

[bleak tulip]

stationary

[cyan moth]

frick.

[zinc phoenix]

You’re talking about an individual weapon, im sayin class as a whole?

[scarlet timber]

Psyker players !!!!

[noble trellis]

to be fair I assume he's talking about BiS or near BiS, you could likely get something usable for much less

[scarlet timber]

I got question !!!!

What's the build

[sterile saddle]

BB is still good, it hits bosses hard and is good for controlled targets

[scarlet timber]

On mkiv dueling sword ????

[forest iris]

Okay

I can rebless an item as often as I want to, right?

[spice veldt]

true, but there's the implication that my focus on a certain build somehow implies that the rest of psyker's kit isn't low-skill

[snow coral]

yeah, but only two changes between blessings and perks and then the others are locked

[spice veldt]

which is absolutely not what I'm saying

I'm only remarking on assail because it's one of the standouts to me

[scarlet timber]

@spice veldt you are the one who was talking about new op dueling swords

What's the build ?

[zinc phoenix]

Empowered smite is even more skill free

And powerful

[forest iris]

Okay, so I spec out of Stustained Fire for Warp Flurry fow now and when I get Surge I replace it with that?

[zinc phoenix]

Altho that may… be a bug

[snow coral]

I'm not sure if Void is OP right now, or just feels like it should have for a while.

[still hearth]

Yeah but it doesn't do anything

[zinc phoenix]

Massively, absurdly op

[spice veldt]

mk iv duellies have the best single-target; run uncanny strike + whatever

[still hearth]

[zinc phoenix]

Except lock down the entire map

[spice veldt]

I don't know about what perks you should really run, but I currently have +elite on mines

[snow coral]

yeah, you can always change whatever slot you've previously changed

[scarlet timber]

Shred or rampage you think ?

[spice veldt]

eh, smite doesn't seem that impressive to me

[forest iris]

nice, thanks!

[spice veldt]

i went for Shred since I'm only using it for single-target most times

[snow coral]

lol, maybe. it's just so nice to send a ball of energy at an elite and have it actually get one shotted

[lament topaz]

Smite feels like shit but it has a use

[bleak tulip]

why lock down everything when you an just kill the map, its the surge staff thing all over again

especially right now "kill the whole map" isnt even exaggerated

[ionic needle]

Because it's kind of fun watching the zombies pop

[snow coral]

I don't know, literally locking down and entire horde for zero peril is pretty good. It's broken sure, but like assail right now it can be crazy good

[zinc phoenix]

Have you used empowered smite? It literally locks entire map. For zero peril. Infinite duration. Infinite number of enemies Anything you look at is perma stunned so long as it is in range of either you or a zapped enemy

[ionic needle]

Maybe? I don't really like surge or smite haha

[zinc phoenix]

The only thing that empowered smite doesn’t lock in place are the bosses

[scarlet timber]

Thx so mkv isn't the king anymore ?

[zinc phoenix]

But you can chain gun those with void 😂

[scarlet timber]

I think mkv was the best dueling sword before the patch

[zinc phoenix]

Assail is weak tea compared to empowered smite

[lavish comet]

This is clearly a Bug... And will be removed

[snow coral]

Na, smite needs EP to proc to be broken, assail is good with or without EP

[sterile saddle]

I agree, the smite bug is unreal

[spice veldt]

pretty good but doesn't stand out to me as much as assail
and also because I don't particularly care about weapons that are hard-specced into CC

[zinc phoenix]

Luckily farming empower tokens is trivial 😂

[snow coral]

but assail is REALLY good with EP and revolver

[spice veldt]

e.g., the Crusher

[lavish comet]

The question is how long it will stay?

[scarlet timber]

Sooo is scryer gaze the best one of melee damage psyker ?

[still hearth]

The only time smite is better than anything else is when there's fifty billion crushers

[zinc phoenix]

You can still have void tho, empowered smite is just for when you want to hard carry a fight

[still hearth]

More like AFK Support but ok

[sterile saddle]

Probably be patched at the end of the month, maybe end of next week if it becomes game breaking mg

[spice veldt]

true, the fact that smite doesn't lock out a ranged/melee option is a boon

[zinc phoenix]

You’re not wrong, I could literally duct tape my mouse 1 and walk away

[bleak tulip]

thats a hilariously spicy take

[zinc phoenix]

Not if you’ve walked thru auric damnation with a team of low levels owning everything 😂

[still hearth]

Assail us another primary while smite is a "ops we're losing let's not lose guys"

[lament topaz]

Emp assail is uhhhhh

[lavish comet]

It is already... I cleared a Horde on Heresy without even moving... simply press both mouse buttons and hold down^^

[sterile saddle]

Yeah

[zinc phoenix]

So long as someone keeps the errant rear spawning pox walkers from slapping your ass you cannot lose a mission

With empowered smite

It’s that ridic

[lavish comet]

You need ZERO skill for Smite EP...

[snow coral]

I think once the EP bug is fixed smite goes back to 'normal' since you have peril management

[lament topaz]

Wait does it not stop going off if you get Emp?

[still hearth]

You jusr need teammates with braincells

[cyan moth]

so apparently..

[bleak tulip]

well if its that good that probably explains why emp smite isnt meant to get the cost reduction according to the tooltip